Ben Safer (2:24)

Yeah, Josh, I can't do fitted hats. It looks amazing on you. On me, they never look good. They never look good. I don't know why. I can only do a snapback and even the snapbacks, I'd say 90% of hats don't look good on me.

Josh Peck (2:37)

What is it? Is it your head shape?

Ben Safer (2:40)

I think so. I think it's the combination of a large head that meets a Bit at a point. It's rather egg ish on. When I. When I tuck back my hair, I think it's my head shape. I think it's my head girth. And I think that because of that, it rises up a little in some areas, but down a little in others. So I can't ever get that perfect fit, you know? You know what I'm talking about. I almost need a custom. The way that people have custom suits. I need a custom hat. Think about this business, Josh. One of one. You send in your exact hat dimensions, okay? They measure from here to here, here to here, and they send you a hat that's only good for you. I love it. I'm in.

Josh Peck (3:18)

I'm down to clown.

Ben Safer (3:20)

Right. The thing is, it's.

Josh Peck (3:22)

It's.

Ben Safer (3:22)

It's probably very difficult to scale, but it would really help me. I get terrible headaches from hats, I think, because they just don't fit. I don't like the feeling of my head being squeezed.

Josh Peck (3:32)

I couldn't agree more, Ben, that I feel seen. I have head tension. I don't like anything even remotely squeezing. I can't even wear. Beats headphones.

Ben Safer (3:43)

So why do you wear hats so often, then? Because you wear hats. If you've noticed, I don't wear hats as much as humanly possible. I don't wear hats even on a golf course, which is you need to wear a hat. People look at me, they're like, you're not gonna wear a hat. I'm like, no, I don't want to wear a hat unless I have to wear a hat. I'm not wearing a hat. And I think I look good in hats, but I don't wear them because they hurt me. You're saying they hurt you, yet you wear them. Why?

Josh Peck (4:08)

I think for the podcast, here's the thing I have. And I don't know if you would identify with this. I have difficult hair. I have great hair because I have a lot of it, but it's very coarse. It's very North African. It's very thick. It's like. I remember once we. A family friend, their little daughter, I put her on my shoulders and we were walking around, and she put her hand in my hair and went, wow, it's like a dog.

Ben Safer (4:33)

Yeah, dude, it's thick as heck.

Josh Peck (4:35)

It's like. And so people always go, oh, my God, your curls. You're this, you're that. I'm like, no, dog, you're tripping. Like, I don't have. Like it. I don't have luxurious beautiful bouncy. Curls, like my sunshine. I have thick, wavy, like, Howard Stern type hair.

Ben Safer (4:54)

Are we missing out on you growing out your hair? And I'm not talking fro. And I'm not talking a little. No, I think you could grow past the fro stage. I never realized quite how thick it was. Have you seen pictures of Bruce Safer circa 2001?

Josh Peck (5:13)

It's all I can look at.

Ben Safer (5:15)

Yeah, Bruce Safer. If you Google Bruce Safer, there's a picture that comes up. He's holding a plate of hors d' oeuvres that you just want to eat one by one. And he's him. He is flowing hair down to his shoulders, like a cross somewhere between Zeus and an old picture of Rob Ryan, if you know who that is. The former coach of the Bills. He has this long, flowy, gray, black. Beautiful hair. Gorgeous hair. He now cuts it, but his hair is thick as thieves. Your hair, you could have that flow. And I just wonder how it would change you. How it would change. Would Paige, like, what. What would Paige think if you had hair to your shoulders? I think you'd look amazing.

Josh Peck (6:01)

I don't know. The problem is, is every time that it starts to get. It goes through such a phase. I'm talking six months. And so what I've done in those times is I've had it straightened. I get that creamy crack, and I get a hot comb, and we go. And I'm like the girl at the beauty parlor, you know? And they got to air it out. They got it like other people start looking at the salon. They go, this is crazy. It smells like turpentine. I go, relax. Drink your cappuccino. All right, we gotta bust open the follicles here.

Ben Safer (6:32)

There's a B and E happening.

Josh Peck (6:35)

And then my boy Sharon, the greatest is, like, crushing. It just mean, like, you have very, how you say in English, fat follicles. You know your follicles are fat. And I go, shut up. And so then I straighten it. But then it, like, gets weird, right? Because you're really damaging the hair. So it kind of looks good, but then it kind of lightens it, and it kind of. I get like a weird Florence Henderson Bob. I'll show you. There are pictures of me with long hair.

Ben Safer (7:05)

I've seen longer hair, but I've never seen long hair. I'm not talking about longer hair. I'm talking about really man bun potential. That length.

Josh Peck (7:17)

Wow. Douchebag. Shit.

Ben Safer (7:19)

I think. I think you with long hair, your personality would change. I think everything would change. Josh, You'd. You Would be. You would be trying out for different roles. Who knows? I think your whole life could change with just longer hair.

Josh Peck (7:37)

I don't know. But then also, dude, like, I have seen a lot of guys because I'm going to be 40 next year, which we can talk about, but I'm 38 now.

Ben Safer (7:45)

We need to throw a fucking party. We need a party. A big ass party.

Josh Peck (7:50)

But I see men do this when they do have hair in their 40s. Like, they go. Because they have like the wild, crazy hair of their teens and twenties. And then they get like a good cut, right? And they go, all right, I should grow up a little, you know, maybe I'll have one pair of Dockers, you know what I mean? Like a civilized and a trouser. And yes. Then in their 40s they go, oh, my God, it's almost over. I should, I should take this hair for a run one more time. And then you're. Then you look like a fucking art teacher who smokes weed and doesn't pay his taxes. Sure.

Ben Safer (8:24)

I mean, sure I do and I do.

Josh Peck (8:26)

And there's. There's strands of gray in it. I'm like, what are you, the fucking music teacher at the friend seminary school?

Ben Safer (8:31)

Yes. Shout out.

Josh Peck (8:33)

Shout out.

Ben Safer (8:34)

Yes, shout out to the friends.

Josh Peck (8:35)

You know, kids who went to friends seminary growing up.

Ben Safer (8:38)

Yeah, I played all these kids in soccer. We had our nice eight person Jewish team. It was the size of the class you were required to play. We played friends. We played this deaf school. I forget the name. We, we always lost to the deaf school. They're the deaf school. Deaf. Yeah, they're the deaf school. And they were always in our league and they always beat us. And then it's like, Jews can't even beat the deaf in soccer. Like, we can't. They can't even communicate with each other. Sure, they have raw natural talent and they can still see, but the Jewish team couldn't beat the deafs. Nope, we couldn't. They were fantastic.

Josh Peck (9:14)

The deaf.

Ben Safer (9:14)

Yes, they. They what? They couldn't hear. They overcame with a strong foot, Josh. They had a strong foot and incredible reflexes. That's what they say. You lose a sense, you gain a sixth or it's just you gain a seventh. All of them, you can.

Josh Peck (9:31)

You can taste colors.

Ben Safer (9:36)

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Josh Peck (12:33)

Should we be very New York now and alienate most of our audience and talk about like the hierarchy of private schools in New York and who are douchebags who aren't.

Ben Safer (12:41)

Sure, sure, absolutely.

Josh Peck (12:44)

Friends Seminary to me were rich, rich kids whose parents were parading as. Not rich, earthy, crunchy, super enlightened bullshit artists.

Ben Safer (12:58)

Yes, absolutely, yes. And on the polar opposite side of that was a school called Dwight, which literally there's an acronym. Dumb white guys getting high together is the acronym for Dwight. Dwight was just like those. Like, you knew you were an idiot, you knew you were overpaying and you went to Dwight. That's the opposite. And then in the middle sits like a Dalton. Sits like a. I think Horace Mann.

Josh Peck (13:24)

Great. Jeffy Epps alma mater.

Ben Safer (13:27)

Oh, huge. Great. Yeah, it's fantastic.

Josh Peck (13:31)

Math teacher.

Ben Safer (13:33)

I think Horace Mann is actually in Riverdale. I don't think it's actually in the city. You'd bus your kids out and then they'd come in, Right? It was a big school. I know far more about the Jewish private school landscape. But this is what you heard. Look, we couldn't go to those parties. Those parties. Those kids were too crazy. Like, we weren't crazy in our nebuchy Jewish schools. But you heard about a Dwight party. You heard about a Horace Mann party. You heard about like, these kids were going nuts.

Josh Peck (14:01)

What about like a collegiate or a. And then Spence was the all girl high end school. Gwyneth Paltrow, I mean, this was.

Ben Safer (14:09)

Yeah, yeah. And what's that one? Sacred Heart, I think is another one that was like all girls. These are all just like nice Upper east side near the Guggenheim. You talk about real estate. My goodness. Some of these buildings. Unbelievable. On the most pristine blocks. These are like gorgeous, gorgeous schools with, yeah, a lot of great kids and a lot of real morons. Real moron. And not the good kind of moron. Okay, not us. I had somebody walk up to me and Claudia on the street yesterday and she's like, I'm an idiot. And I'm like, okay, that's good.

Josh Peck (14:49)

That is so our audience.

Ben Safer (14:51)

I'm like, I think you got that one wrong. I'm not Gonna correct you. You are an idiot. That's awesome. It was really good. She's like, I'm an idiot. I' you are.

Josh Peck (15:05)

Like. Growing up, I went to Performing Arts High school in New York. The hierarchy of performing art. There were three performing arts schools. There was LaGuardia, PPAS and PCs. Now, PCs was at Lincoln center. And this was the private performing arts school. And this was like, I think Scarlett Johansson went there, maybe Misha Barton, some of the Culkin family. Like, this was a really high end school. And then you had LaGuardia with like, people like Timothee Chalamet. And this one was more of a conservatory. Right? So when you went there, you were basically told, we don't want you to work. We don't want you to start, you know, child acting. You are here to get your education as a kid in high school, but also your education as an actor or a musician or a dancer. And then when you turn 18, you can either go to Juilliard or you can, you know, start working. My school was like, if you were in the Bloods or Crips but could play trombone, like, my shit was so, like ratchet.

Ben Safer (16:16)

They didn't.

Josh Peck (16:17)

They gave zero fucks. And they were like, go work. We don't care. Don't show. Like, we'll send you. We'll send you work. And we, we had some cool. We had like Alicia Keys, Claire Danes, a couple, like cool alma maters, but. Or alumni. But it was, it was, it was janky.

Ben Safer (16:38)

I'm crying. If you were from the hood but you could really sew. This was the school for you. If you could knit, this was the school for you. You had great pipes. People don't know this. I mean, people know this from our wonderful theme song, but Josh has some serious pipes.

Josh Peck (16:53)

Oh, God. What.

Ben Safer (16:54)

Fantastic, Fantastic. I think I've mentioned this off camera. Yeah. Josh, we need. We should. We should really record a Christmas album. I think that's what's missing here. I think that we're still a little bit. I. I only think of this when we have three months till Christmas, so maybe we do it for the following Christmas. But I think a short Christmas album, maybe we. We write one original and we sing a couple of parodies. I think it's a wonderful idea.

Josh Peck (17:17)

I think maybe just a single where we blend Hanukkah and Christmas and call it Oy Vey, It's Christmas.

Ben Safer (17:23)

I love it. Oy vey, It's Christmas time in the city.

Josh Peck (17:29)

It's Christmas. So much traffic, you know, like, it just Is fetching.

Ben Safer (17:35)

Yeah. Oh, that's good. Oy vey. It's Christmas time in the city. That snow will surely turn to slop. I don't know. Or what's it called? Or the. The snow will turn to. What the is that called when it's black? Slush.

Josh Peck (17:52)

Slush. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like the Hanukkah isn't really represented in the Macy's windows.

Ben Safer (18:01)

I love it. I'm in.

Josh Peck (18:03)

Yeah. We can talk. I mean, I'm getting sick from all this central heat in December. You know, just things that apply to us.

Ben Safer (18:12)

I love it. Or instead of the Grinch who stole Christmas, it could be Mamdani stole Hanukkah. You.

Josh Peck (18:23)

You like that, right?

Ben Safer (18:24)

I. I think that would be a hit. I think it would be a hit.

Josh Peck (18:28)

If his name was Zofran Momdani. I'd like him more. I'm always. You know, I just love Zofran. I love an anti nausea pill.

Ben Safer (18:38)

We just need the tune. Like, what is the tune?

Josh Peck (18:44)

We can't make it. Like, it's the cantorial read at Saturday. That's right.

Ben Safer (18:48)

That's what I want to do because I'm so good at that read. O, it's Christmas time in the city now. Oy vey. It's time for Christmas here. Tuesday.

Josh Peck (19:05)

Great. Amen.

Ben Safer (19:08)

No, it needs to be like upbeat. Oy. They. It's Christmas.

Josh Peck (19:12)

Oh, it will.

Ben Safer (19:13)

Let's spread some holiday cheer today.

Josh Peck (19:16)

Well, you know, I mean, this is a fun thing to look up, but famously, almost exclusively, Jews have written all the great Christmas music.

Ben Safer (19:25)

Yes, they have. They have.

Josh Peck (19:26)

Yeah.

Ben Safer (19:27)

Do you know that, Olivia, we're good for something.

Josh Peck (19:29)

I keep trying to tell you, Olivia. We are.

Ben Safer (19:35)

We love contributing to culture, Josh, don't we? We love it. We love the Christmas. We love it. Honestly, most of these holidays.

Josh Peck (19:44)

All right, ready? Let's. Let's go through it. Famous Christmas songs written by Jewish songwriters. White Christmas, Irving Berlin. Okay. Let it snow. Let it snow, Let it snow. Sammy Khan and Julie Stein. Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer. Johnny Marks. Rocking around the Christmas tree. Johnny Marks. Santa baby Joan Javits. Chestnuts roasting on an open fire. Mel Torme. Silver Belts. Jay Livingston.

Ben Safer (20:19)

I love our people. And last but. And last but not least. Oy vey. It's Christmas by Josh Peck and Ben Sover. I'm telling you, Josh, it is a hit. It's a hit.

Josh Peck (20:33)

I love it. I'm in. And you know, we also talk about. I think we should. Let's use this as a springboard to really Talk about our next five year plan, because we joke.

Ben Safer (20:43)

Please.

Josh Peck (20:44)

But I really think we should have. I. You know, and you'll see in another couple months with the wonderful Ruby, like between Ms. Rachel, Mika Blippi, all these kids songsters, and all this kids programming, I. I know you and me, we are the kind of beta un. You know, unassuming dudes who can. Who can really create a wonderful children's program. I think.

Ben Safer (21:11)

Unassuming. We could absolutely do it. This morning, Josh, I baked a sourdough followed by a challah, both from scratch. It's as beta as it comes. I could do children's programming. Let's teach the kids how to make their own starter, which, by the way, I named Euphagenia Doe Fire, dear, in case I didn't tell you. You like that, right? Pretty good. But yeah, we're. We're just. We're just like a couple of good guys. Let's do children's programming. Let's be the Mr. Rogers that we wish to see in the world. I'm in. Love it.

Josh Peck (21:41)

And maybe we do practical things like this is how to file your taxes that are, you know, like. We saw them early. Yes.

Ben Safer (21:51)

I love it. I'm in. I'm.

Josh Peck (21:52)

This is how to set up your ring camera so you can spy on your neighbor's little Billy, you know?

Ben Safer (22:00)

Yes.

Josh Peck (22:01)

Okay. And then also I realized that with Patreon, because I am such a podcast listener and I listen to the history hyenas Patreon, and I listened to the great Robbie Hoffman and. And her Too Far pod Patreon. With podcasts that are on Spotify, Apple podcasts, there's. How do I say this? You're inviting the public in for something that is, in theory, free, right? So people can repurpose it. Podcast clips can be taken out of context, blah, blah, blah, blah. Patreon's behind a paywall, so you really own all of it. And that's why you very rarely will see people repurpose or leak something from a Patreon, because they can't. It's actually not for the public. It's for subscribers who make an agreement when they become a member that they are going to listen and consume it and not repurpose it. We can get wild, Ben. The real Ben's coming.

Ben Safer (23:00)

Not only can we get wild, but what's most exciting to me is that we could get a little bit of current events. Just a little. Like, we. I'm sure this is a running joke. We do our absolute best, but we're always About a week late, two weeks late on things. But with Patreon, I could just call you and I could say, hey, you want to record for 20 minutes and throw it up. We could do that. That's what I love about Patreon. That's what I love about the idea of it. If there's something that we want to talk about that I don't know. The Rock overdosed on Ozempic. I hope that never happens. We can talk about it right now. We can break that news that the rock OD'd on Ozempic. Or maybe the rock OD'd on the rock. Have you seen? I want to talk about Charlie Sheen, ok? Because I watched his documentary. Don't let me forget. Don't let me forget, okay? Because when I said the Rock, it reminded me that he smoked seven crack rocks at a time. Don't let me forget that I want to talk about Charlie Sheen. But yeah, I love Patreon. I love the idea of it and I honestly all that I need. Maybe we don't need buy in, but I would just love to know, like, is that something that the morons would like? If it is, then I would love to do it. I would love to do it.

Josh Peck (24:13)

If it is, we will procrastinate but still do it. In three to six months.

Ben Safer (24:18)

We'll do it in six months. We're 100% doing oy vey Christmas first. Yes, oy vey Christmas takes priority. Okay, in terms of priority, Oy vey Christmas, everything else. What if we release Oy vey Christmas exclusively to Patreon?

Josh Peck (24:38)

Love it.

Ben Safer (24:39)

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Josh Peck (28:26)

Tell me about Charlie Sheen, doc.

Ben Safer (28:28)

Okay, so first of all, if you haven't seen it, you should. If anybody hasn't seen it, they should. I thought it was awesome. I also, I had no idea. This is just like Ben heading his ass cloud in the head in the sky. I know Charlie Sheen from Two and a Half Men, and I'm embarrassed to say that I know Charlie Sheen from Two and a Half Men because Charlie Sheen was so prolific prior to Two and a Half Men. I also knew nothing about Martin Sheen being his dad. I just never put Two and two together. I never put Emilio Estevez together. You know, that's his brother, I assume. I never put any of that together. I didn't know that he was Charlie Estevez. I had no idea. No clue.

Josh Peck (29:08)

And you had no clue of. What do you call it? Wall Street?

Ben Safer (29:11)

Anything he Wall Street Platoon. Nothing. Zilch.

Josh Peck (29:15)

Crazy.

Ben Safer (29:16)

I had. That's crazy. I had. I had seen zero Charlie Sheen. So as I'm watching this, I'm. I'm just. One, I'm fascinated by his breadth of work. Two, I'm fascinated by the fact that nobody's ever called him an EPO baby. Or @ least I hadn't heard it, because he's the definition of an EPO baby. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but, like, his dad is an unbelievably impressive famous actor, and his entire family, they're all in it. And that's not to take away from his skill. It just. It makes a little bit more sense why he always got more chances. Like, I was always thinking to myself, like, this guy, like, you watch him completely fall off a cliff, and he always, always, just like they describe it, he. He went down a very, very dark hole. I'm not going to go into the specifics because everybody should watch it, but he literally got out of that hole. And Two and a Half Men was like, name your price. And they paid him $2 million an episode after he had his.

Josh Peck (30:11)

Once the show was a hit, totally.

Ben Safer (30:13)

But it just. It fascinating. Like, he was making so much money during a time when the last thing he needed to be doing was making so much money.

Josh Peck (30:24)

I would say, obviously, Nepo babies have always Existed. But I would say of that era, they had to be talented. So like totally. When you see like Liza Minnelli, you know, Judy Garland's daughter, or the great Carrie Fisher, rest in peace. Who was Tony Curtis and. Right. Who's. Who's Carrie Fisher's parents? Debbie Reynolds. Yes, yes, Debbie Reynolds. And her, her father actually created St. Jude's I think. And then. But you know, and Jamie Lee Curtis is Tony Curtis's kid. Like, but they're so talented. I think unfortunately in the last 20 years we've seen a lot of that Nepo bullshit and they're just kind of.

Ben Safer (31:02)

I, what I meant by that, just to clarify, I love the idea of a Nepo baby in any industry. The dream is for somebody to build a family business and to work for it. Like, I don't ever think that it's a. Like, I don't. I never look negatively upon somebody whose parents built something for them that is like the dream. The dream is that you can help your children and that they can be talented enough to take themselves even further in that and not squander it and ruin it. My comment was more that as I watched the documentary, he felt like somebody who, at least in current times would never have gotten the level of work that he got after the amount of fuck ups that he had. Unless in my opinion, he had a very, very famous family that could vouch for him and, and help him.

Josh Peck (31:51)

I don't, I don't know if that's true.

Ben Safer (31:53)

I think that's. You don't think so?

Josh Peck (31:55)

Here's my two pushback. First thing on what you said before, I totally agree that it's fabulous when you can be born into a family business and kind of continue that legacy. My only gripe ever with that is that you understand you were born on third base, like totally. And that kills me with friends. I have a buddy whose son is, you know, like I've known this guy forever and he's worked really hard, you know, middle class lifestyle, but his kid has gone to private school and it's wonderful. And now he's going to, you know, a four year amazing college that's $90,000 a year, right? As many great colleges are. And no does any loans, the whole thing. And I was like, well, you know, that's amazing how privileged he is, you know, to have such a great family. And my buddy kind of pushed back. He's like, ah, privilege. And I'm like, dog, if you get to go to private school and get to go to college without loans, you're privileged, like, and it's fabulous as long as you pay it forward.

Ben Safer (32:55)

In my humble opinion, I think that the problem. And it's a. And then I want to get back to Charlie Sheen. I completely agree with you. The problem is that people villainize the word privilege and they make you bad for it. I think that it should be like, privilege should be celebrated. You. You should a thousand percent be aware that you're privileged. But. But then it should be celebrated. It shouldn't be. Which I think it often becomes. It's like, oh, this person grew up really great. That's. That's awesome. Like, that. That's not. That shouldn't be perceived as. Just because you grew up great, and I didn't grow up great. That all of a sudden you should feel like shit for growing up great. That's the problem. And I totally agree that everybody should acknowledge the fact if they are privileged financially, that they should acknowledge that, but they shouldn't feel bad about it. I think that's the. I think that's the, the difficult part to. To some people that when they hear that, oh, you're privileged, like, maybe your. Your buddy took it in the wrong way, which is like, like negatively, like. No, it's a positive that he worked so hard and was able to provide for his family. That's amazing. And he should be proud of that and acknowledge that and wear it like the gold star that it is. It's the dream. The dream is to provide for your kids.

Josh Peck (34:10)

But do you think, like, I see a lot of kids who think that it's their birthright, that their parents worked hard, and I'm like, nah, babe, like, you didn't. You didn't. You won the lottery. But like, now the way that you, Your cover charge for your great life, in my opinion, is giving back is living a life of gratitude and paying it forward because you were born on third base.

Ben Safer (34:35)

Of course. But that's 100% with the way that you're raised. Like, if you're raised by douchebag parents who don't believe that, then you're not going to do that.

Josh Peck (34:41)

Sure.

Ben Safer (34:42)

It requires a very, very specific. Which I don't necessarily want to blame the kids for. Like, there are great people. The same way that, like, regardless of economic status, there are great people, great parents, terrible parents, and terrible people. They exist up and down. And teaching your kids morals has nothing to do with how much money you have. So you're going to have these kids that just have a lot of money and were. Weren't taught the Right things to do with it and the right way to treat people. And then on the inverse, you're going to have people that were born with nothing, that were taught to give their last dollar because that's just how they were raised. That if somebody, somebody could always need something more than you need it. So that's all to say that I don't always blame the kid. I would always blame the parents. The kid, once they're old enough, should sort of get a, get a grip and acknowledge the fact that they were born on third base. And by the way, if they were born on third and couldn't take it home. Loser. Totally loser. That's what I. Loser. It's a sac. Fly and you score. Zack. Fly and you score.

Josh Peck (35:47)

Couldn't agree more. I, I, and to your point, I agree with you. Up till a certain age with kids and then like when they're in their late 20s, I'm like, careful, because you're getting close to the ill, the invisible loser line. Okay.

Ben Safer (35:59)

And if you blame your parents at 30.

Josh Peck (36:04)

Nah, I mean, sure, I do it at 38 sometimes. But you know, there were some revelations. But I, and to the Charlie Sheen thing, I think you make a great point. But my, you know, my feeling is that if he wasn't so damn talented. Two things I've heard to be true about Charlie, despite the fact that he has a disease and an addiction that seems to be one of, you know, a hall of fame of hall of fame levels.

Ben Safer (36:33)

He, yeah, you hear that?

Josh Peck (36:35)

He was a good dude that like kind of shine through even when he was creating so much wreckage, which is something. And then he's so damn talented that I think people were like, God, you're just, you, you're undeniable, even through this B.S. but you know, and they're con, they were constantly weighing like, how much should we deal with your BS because of how talented you are. And eventually the scales were not in his favor, clearly.

Ben Safer (36:59)

I mean they, they weren't ever not in his favor. I guess that's what I'm trying to say. So, but maybe you're right. Maybe it's just talent. Like he really, in watching that documentary, he would go on a seven year bender and come out of it with a bigger opportunity than he had before. Like, and maybe it's, and maybe it's just the, maybe it's just him. Like, I, I'm just trying to like, looking back on it and like watching the doc, you're just thinking to yourself, how does this keep happening to this guy? It's almost like again, I'm a, a spiritual, as religious as I can person. It's almost like Hashem or God was rewarding him every time he stopped and like forcing him to say like, look, look, if you just stop, everything is here for you. Last time you stopped, everything was here for you. This time they're paying you $2 million an episode. Just stop. And to your. What you just said, it's, it was very clear and on display. An addiction of just incredible magnitude. Like he was talking about how he would smoke seven gram rocks at a time. And that's 300, I think, and, and for real and, and live. And he, he spent so much money with his drug dealer that his. They interview his drug dealer who's now not a drug dealer who has a condo in. In the hills paid for by Charlie's money. Like he goes on record and I'll, I'll spoil one thing because I thought it was just amazing. If you really, if you're going to watch the doc, spoiler alert. I'm sorry, but I wanted to share this. He, his drug dealer is the reason why he stopped doing drugs because they knew that Charlie would never stop smoking crack. So his crack dealer slowly made crack less potent. He made it less potent every single time he sold it to him and never told Charlie until afterwards. So finally Charlie went to him and he's like, I'm smoking all this crack and it's not doing anything for me anymore. I'm just not going to smoke crack anymore. He like weaned him off it by having him smoke bad crack. It was mind blowing. It was like we're doing that with.

Josh Peck (39:20)

Myers Binky right now.

Ben Safer (39:27)

We're also, we're also weaning Ruby off the paci. By the way, the patsy is the devil. Okay? This devil Passy, it's no good if you can get your kids not just saying if your kid needs it, whatever. If you can get him not or her not to take the passy, it'll save you. They have no good.

Josh Peck (39:44)

But yeah, they have a step down pack like Nicorette for babies where it's like a full pacifier. And then three days later it's like a three quarter. And then it's literally what Charlie Sheen's drug dealer did. And then a half and then a quarter.

Ben Safer (40:01)

That's so funny.

Josh Peck (40:03)

Yeah. And they get so fun is that they're like, get this away from me. I don't want it anymore.

Ben Safer (40:09)

That's so funny. Ruby just uses his hand. He's like uses his fist he just like, loves it. He'll just like rub the gums and then he'll fall asleep. But he's been, he's been no passy passy clean for a week. I gotta, I wonder what his so I wonder what his sobriety day from the past. He is day count.

Josh Peck (40:26)

I gotta give him a chip.

Ben Safer (40:27)

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Josh Peck (44:31)

The Charlie sheen of it is is it's fascinating and I Think also, look, if you look at the people, the pedigree of people he work with, it's like Platoon was Kubrick. I think Platoon's Kubrick. And then my man. And then, you know, Wall street is, oh, who did jf Oliver Stone. And then he did that show Spin City. Who was the. I'm literally. But I didn't take my lion's mane today. The showrunner from Ted Lasso and Bill Lawrence. And then he goes on to Two and a Half Men with the great Chuck Lorre. Who really like Chuck Lorre, who did Big Bang Theory. Mom. Bob Hart's Abashola. Two and a Half Men. Kaminsky Method bookie. I mean, the guy is. Is unbelievable. But he's really. I watch these shows. He's fucking genius. And he's publicly been in recovery for decades. And so that dynamic must have been really interesting, you know, him enjoying a guy who was in.

Ben Safer (45:31)

Fascinating. They never, ever. They interviewed Chuck, and they never mentioned that he was in recovery. I think that if they had, it would have made a little bit more sense, because now I do understand why he gave him another shot. I think that if the writer and head was not also a former addict, that Charlie Sheen would not have been on the show at $2 million an episode like that. Now, that's the difference. It has nothing to do with nepotism. It has to do with empathy and understanding that just because you're an addict doesn't mean that you can't be a wonderful actor. I think that that's a hundred percent. It's.

Josh Peck (46:05)

I would not. I wouldn't give an inch. I'd be like, call your sponsor. You fuck, you fired.

Ben Safer (46:11)

Get out his. That's the other steps, you piece of shit. Can you. Can you watch the doc? I think you'd love it. I will love it.

Josh Peck (46:21)

I. I love him.

Ben Safer (46:22)

The last. The last thing that I'll say about it is that his family is so unbelievably amazing. Like, the way that they have stuck by him and like the way that he talks about them and the way that he's been through fucking hell and they've been standing next to him like he still has. It's not one of those where no one in my family will speak to me. It's literally one of those where it's like, my family will never stop loving me until I. I'm dead. And it was just very powerful because you don't always see that. So very powerful. I loved it.

Josh Peck (46:58)

I used to pick up. When I first got sober. I went to this men's stag meeting where there was this guy with almost 60 years sober, and we would pick him up from his nursing home. It would be become like one of the new guys, kind of one of their chores for the meeting. And it was great because A, it got you some alone time with this guy who had 60 years, fought in World War II, and B, you just felt good that you were, you know, esteemable acts build self esteem. And he would get in the car and he would say two things. He'd say, turn off the radio and listen to God.

Ben Safer (47:32)

Yeah, dude.

Josh Peck (47:33)

He'd be like, I drink. I drink with both hands. I spilled more than you drank, Mike. Okay, gotcha.

Ben Safer (47:47)

Turn off the radio and listen to God is amazing.

Josh Peck (47:52)

And he would say this and it was true, man. He'd be like, you are here because of your mother's prayers. You didn't have anything to do with this. You're here because your mother's prayers. And I'd be like, man, you're right, dude. And then, and then I'd be like, do you want to put on pants? Because he sometimes will forget to put on pants. What can you do? Should we do a quick speak pipe?

Ben Safer (48:14)

Yeah.

Josh Peck (48:14)

If you want to get some advice, ask us a question, keep it brief. Brevity's key. Go to speakpipe.com goodguys this one's from Anonymous.

Anonymous Caller (48:24)

Hey, good guys, I'll get right into it. I've had a big belly my whole life and people have been asking me if I'm pregnant for the past 15 years. But now that I'm in my 30s and a mom, I like to be creative with my responses. Just to make people take a beat and make them start to think, hey, maybe I shouldn't have asked that question. So the other day at the store, a random lady asked if I was expecting and I looked at her in the eyes and I said my usual response, which is, nope, I'm just fat. She did start to get teary eyed and now I'm wondering if I should come up with a better response. Do you all have any suggestions for new responses?

Josh Peck (49:08)

Ben, Thoughts?

Ben Safer (49:12)

Yikes. Okay, first of all, I'm sorry that you have to deal with that. Like, people need to shut the upper and you absolutely never, ever, ever, ever, ever congratulate a woman on being pregnant unless you know that she's pregnant. Like that is just like 101. So I'm sorry that you have to deal with that. What would I say if I were you?

Josh Peck (49:34)

No, I'm just fat is pretty Iconic.

Ben Safer (49:37)

It's pretty good.

Anonymous Caller (49:38)

I think.

Ben Safer (49:39)

I. I think it is too. I don't know if she asked for advice on what she should change it to. I love the response. I agree with, you know, I'm just fat. Is. Is pretty great. Maybe. What about. No. Are you like, Is that good? Like, throwing it back at them?

Josh Peck (49:55)

Hell no.

Ben Safer (49:56)

Are you. If you fat or like. I don't know. Yeah, no, I. I think. No, just fat. That's. No, just fat. Pretty good.

Josh Peck (50:05)

I. I like that. She said that. She said that to the woman who said she was pregnant and the woman started to tear up. So do you want to do, like a role play? And I'll.

Ben Safer (50:15)

Yeah. And I'll want to be the pregnant woman or you're. I'm the. You be the woman, I'll be the lady.

Josh Peck (50:22)

Okay.

Ben Safer (50:23)

I'm the. I'm the pregnant woman. Okay.

Josh Peck (50:25)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. How far along are you?

Ben Safer (50:32)

I'm not. I just had Subway for lunch. That's what I would say to her. Okay. Or I'd say, I just had a sandwich. Okay. That's what I'd say.

Josh Peck (50:41)

You're not pregnant.

Ben Safer (50:43)

No, I'm just fat, you bastard.

Josh Peck (50:48)

Wow. I'm so sorry. Because it's just the way you. You're not fat, but in this little area you can understand.

Ben Safer (51:04)

I just drink a lot of beer. Okay, that's it.

Josh Peck (51:09)

That's it.

Ben Safer (51:10)

And scene. Excellent.

Josh Peck (51:12)

Wow. Oh, wow. Gorgeous.

Ben Safer (51:16)

You really.

Josh Peck (51:17)

God bless.

Ben Safer (51:18)

Those are good tears, Josh. Well done. But yeah, yeah. I'm sorry that you have to deal with that. I'm sorry that you have to deal with that. But, like, no. Good.

Josh Peck (51:27)

Should we do one more speak pipe?

Ben Safer (51:29)

Yes.

Josh Peck (51:29)

This next one is from Ryan.

Ryan (51:33)

Hey, good guy. It's Ryan calling for advice. My girlfriend and I have been going out for a few months and we've been just restaurant hopping around the city, having a great time, great food, and. Oh, I forgot to preface. I'm addicted to pizza. Like five, six times a week. It's pretty intense. And she doesn't know. She kind of knows. Oh, yeah, I'm into pizza. Whatever. And after dinner, we go back to her apartment. I either like, sneak out, say, hey, I gotta see a friend quickly, or hey, I gotta go to the bathroom. And yeah, I go and grab a slice like, it's like a drug. So I don't wanna let her know this is my deal. Thanks, guys. Let me know what I should do.

Josh Peck (52:17)

He should go date pregnant girl. They'll go for pizza together.

Ben Safer (52:23)

That's one of the funniest speak vibes I've ever heard. Oh, my God.

Josh Peck (52:27)

It's pretty good.

Ben Safer (52:28)

She's literally gonna look at him. Are you cheating on me? No, I just love pizza. I'm not seeing another one. I'm just seeing Ray. You're gay? No. Ray's pizza. Oh. So good advice, definitely. Just tell her that you are eating pizza. It's not a big deal. And you sound skinny. Okay? Having a pizza addiction isn't a problem for a skinny guy. Yeah, I could have heard like your CPAP machine in the background if you were a big fat fatty getting. Getting pizza six nights a week. But you're not. You're skinny. So being addicted to pizza, okay, you're like the bag of chips.

Josh Peck (53:20)

It wouldn't have been Orion. It would have been a Ray Way. I got. I got a problem. Good. Guys.

Ben Safer (53:30)

I'm addicted to pizza.

Josh Peck (53:34)

I'm at. I'm at the bars right now. I'm waiting for it to open. I'm. I'm like Charlie Sheen with his seven rocks. I got seven slices right to the face.

Ben Safer (53:49)

Oh, my God. If you were in a real pizza.

Josh Peck (53:52)

Blackout, Ben, how many could you eat?

Ben Safer (53:55)

Like, this is like, I'm so not on Ozempic. There's like nothing stopping my stomach from going all in. Correct.

Josh Peck (54:02)

Yeah.

Ben Safer (54:03)

Oh, man. I could probably polish a pie.

Josh Peck (54:06)

A large pie.

Ben Safer (54:07)

I think I could. I think I could have eight slices. Yeah.

Josh Peck (54:10)

Fuck yeah.

Ben Safer (54:11)

Yeah.

Josh Peck (54:11)

Wow. You're my hero.

Ben Safer (54:12)

Yeah.

Josh Peck (54:13)

Hell yeah.

Ben Safer (54:14)

Yeah. I can really, like, when I'm unleashed, I can really do some sc. I can do some really scary things. Unleashed. So honestly, Ryan, another option for you is microdosing. GLP is like, do it like Josh, take a little mini shot once every couple of weeks. I think you'll eat significantly less pizza. Will you be as happy? I'm not sure. But you'll be eating less pizza.

Josh Peck (54:36)

By the way, you know, I'm off the microdose.

Ben Safer (54:39)

Oh, you're okay. Why? What happened?

Josh Peck (54:42)

It was a two month journey, but two times I had like a little light allergic reaction.

Ben Safer (54:48)

Really? What did it look like?

Josh Peck (54:50)

It looked like hives, but like kind of all over. And then I would take a Zyrtec and it would go away. And I just think, like, I don't know, I think God was like, you're greedy, bro. You're greedy.

Ben Safer (55:04)

It's possible.

Josh Peck (55:05)

I think I liked it when I did it. I only did it for like, I don't know, four or five times over two months.

Ben Safer (55:10)

Did you try a different type of. Of medication? Like, or you only Took the one type of glp. I've never heard anybody getting hives. I just wonder if, like, maybe I.

Josh Peck (55:22)

Started a new deodorant.

Ben Safer (55:23)

I think it might have been the deodorant. Josh. I've never heard of somebody getting hives. Honestly.

Josh Peck (55:28)

Think so.

Ben Safer (55:29)

I really do. I've never heard of that as a. As a side effect. I haven't. And I don't think that God is thinking that you're greedy, because in the words of the great Terry Dubrow, this is important for all Americans looking to fight inflammation.

Josh Peck (55:42)

You know, I'm fighting inflammation. That would be funny if you and I did, like, an after school special, and we're bullies and we see fucking, like, a kid named Inflammation. We're like, hey, get over here. We push him into a locker and, like, Amunjaro.

Ben Safer (55:58)

Eurozempic. Yeah. And we beat him up. It's kind of like. What was that show? Fat Mouth? Was that what it was called?

Josh Peck (56:04)

Oh, with Nick Cole, yeah.

Ben Safer (56:06)

Was it? That would be great. What's it called? Is it Fat Mouth? What's the name of it? Big Mouth. Big Mouth. Big Mouth. Big Mouth.

Josh Peck (56:17)

What's that? By the way, we make a fat daddy.

Ben Safer (56:22)

I got fat on the brain, by the way. We make Big Mouth, but all about Ozempic and Mounjaro fighting crime. Yeah. I love it. Our.

Josh Peck (56:30)

What are you, nuts? Moment of the week are our gripes with people, places and things both big and small. Whatever is sticking in your craw. I'll start. Don't bring shit to the park. There's shit at the park. Okay? This is a big issue. My kids, they go to the park. These other families are like, oh, little Bobby, little Billy. We brought a plaything. We brought this. We brought this in the house. And every kid attacks that shit. Like, even my kids are like, I want to play with it. And I'm like, no, no, it's Billy. She brought it. It's like, there's shit at the park. Leave your shit at home. Otherwise all the kids are gonna watch your kid shit, and I gotta fucking jump in the middle of it and, like, be like, you know, on top of my kids and your kid. And I feel bad. I'm embarrassed. But I'm like, also, you're an idiot. What are you, nuts?

Ben Safer (57:25)

Yes, nuts.

Josh Peck (57:27)

Nuts.

Ben Safer (57:27)

If you want to bring shit, bring it to a lawn, not to a park. There's a slide, there's monkey bars, there's sand. There's plenty of shit for them to do. And I completely agree.

Josh Peck (57:34)

It's A park. It's, like, built for everyone.

Ben Safer (57:36)

It's built for everyone, Josh. My, what are you, nuts? Moment. I know you can relate to this. I've been getting my beautiful creatine. I absolutely love it. But it doesn't only apply to creatine. It's anything that you get. Maybe it's protein powder, Josh. Where you open it up and all of a sudden your entire hand has to go to the bottom to find the scooper. Nuts. What are you nuts? This is a huge problem. I end up getting creatine all over my hand. All of a sudden, my creatine. Who knows? The last time I washed my hand, I'm dunking it in. It's completely ruined. Then I pull out the spoon. The sp. The powder gets everywhere. Tape the spoon to the top of the jar. This is something. This must change. I will no longer be buying products where the spoon. Where? It has to be a. Find your own spoon. A journey. This isn't a game. I ordered a supplement. I ordered protein. I didn't ask for a game to find the spoon. Okay, what are you, nuts, Josh? You know what else is. You know what else is nuts, Josh? Not giving this episode five stars. That would be a what are you, nuts? Listen to us. Wherever you get your podcasts, watch us on YouTube, share our clips. Instagram and TikTok, folks. We're going viral again. Mondays and Thursdays, folks. We will see you next time. Please note that this episode may contain.

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