Tucker, Kimmel, and Charlie Sheen

Summary

Podcast Summary: Good Guys – "Tucker, Kimmel, and Charlie Sheen"

Date: September 25, 2025
Hosts: Josh Peck & Ben Soffer
Podcast: Good Guys (Dear Media)

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode explores several timely and provocative topics at the intersection of pop culture, politics, and Jewish identity. The hosts react to controversial anti-Semitic tropes in a recent Tucker Carlson speech, dissect the fallout of Jimmy Kimmel’s late night show amid political pressure and cancel culture, and offer their characteristic mix of humor, personal anecdotes, and social commentary. The episode also includes stories about Charlie Sheen, celebrity parenting backlash, and intimate details of Jewish holiday traditions, all culminating in signature listener Q&A and playful banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tucker Carlson’s Anti-Semitic Remarks at Charlie Kirk Memorial

• [00:24]–[03:35]
  • Ben is incensed after seeing a clip from a memorial service where Tucker Carlson allegedly compared Charlie Kirk’s experience to “what the Jews did to Jesus—just a bunch of Jews sitting around eating hummus, deciding Jesus was too truthful and killed him.”
    • Quote (Ben, 00:40): “Tucker Carlson...needs to go in a hole and...he needs to go away at this point...He basically compared what happened with Charlie Kirk to what the Jews did to Jesus...which is like the deepest of deep anti-Semitic tropes.”
  • The hosts emphasize how such old tropes still poison modern discourse, highlighting the danger of blaming an entire group for historical events.

2. Forgiveness, Jewish Holidays & Cultural Parallels

• [03:35]–[06:42]
  • Tying Carlson’s rhetoric to themes of forgiveness, Josh commends Erika Kirk’s grace under pressure (03:37). The segment turns to Yom Kippur, with the hosts discussing atonement, Jewish guilt, and how ritualized annual forgiveness shapes cultural feelings of guilt compared to, e.g., Catholic confession.
  • Quote (Ben, 05:32): “You think that’s what leads to Jewish guilt? We have to hold onto this for 365 days versus in Catholicism, you can hold on to it for a minute.”

3. Jimmy Kimmel’s Show, Cancel Culture, & Government Overreach

• [08:08]–[19:55]
  • Josh celebrates a guest spot on Kimmel’s (then-canceled) show, which spurs a larger conversation about freedom of speech, cancel culture, and government pressure.
    • Ben points out the cyclical, precedent-heavy nature of “canceling” (09:06), referencing Bill Maher’s replacement by Kimmel decades earlier.
    • Josh and Ben discuss claims of unprecedented government and FCC involvement in Kimmel’s suspension, highlighting the chilling effect of state influence on media corporations.
    • Quote (Josh, 11:05): “What is different here is it feels like there was government overreach...They almost don’t have to (say anything) because any savvy CEO...is going to be like, I can’t go against the biggest guy in the world, and I need their approval to get these mergers done.”
  • The discussion broadens to FCC regulation and the “slippery slope” of future podcast censorship.

4. Late Night TV, Shifting Media, & Press Freedom

• [14:14]–[21:46]
  • Ben: “Late night television is dead.” The hosts observe that podcasts and video streaming are the new “intimate” medium for celebrity interviews and cultural conversation.
  • The connection between government, media conglomerates, and freedom of the press is explored, with both worrying aloud about potential future regulation of podcasts and independent media.
  • Quote (Josh, 14:14): "I think it's dangerous whenever a president...leans on major media. That's the whole idea of freedom of the press: to keep power in check."
  • They reflect on the ambiguous relationships between reporters and politicians (e.g., at the White House Correspondents Dinner), lamenting the erosion of adversarial press traditions.

5. Evolution of Political Comedy

• [17:43]–[19:33]
  • The tone shift in late night from funny roasting to direct political antagonism is pinpointed as a driver of backlash.
    • Ben: “If something’s funny enough, then I don’t think people take issue with it...They stopped feeling the need to be funny. It just flipped to like ‘fuck him.’”
  • Josh singles Bill Maher out as still doing “brilliant” political comedy, “liberal but not woke,” a label both hosts embrace.

6. Jewish Political Identity and Feeling Unsafe

• [19:55]–[21:46]
  • Josh discusses how both political extremes inevitably harbor anti-Semitism, warning Jewish friends against “seeking safety” on either edge.
    • Quote (Josh, 20:28): “The place where both parties meet on the far reaches is a dislike for us. We’re not safe anywhere.”

7. Jewish Holiday Cooking, Family & Food

• [27:24]–[34:37]
  • Ben previews his elaborate, inclusive Rosh Hashanah dinner menu (including gluten/dairy free adaptations), highlighting the significance and challenges behind tradition and dietary restrictions.
  • The hosts riff hilariously on “pigs in a blanket,” the dairy/non-dairy mash debate, and Jewish culinary adaptations. The importance of family meals and food in forging identity shines throughout.

8. Pop Culture Quick Hits

• Charlie Sheen & Addiction ([35:11])
  • The hosts react to revelations that Sheen was cut off by the Mexican cartel over cocaine consumption, reflecting on the extremity of addiction.
    • Quote (Ben, 36:00): “The fact that his drug dealer was the one who weaned him off the crack rocks...What a good friend, you know?”
• Sarah Michelle Gellar’s “Spoiling” Incident ([36:46])
  • Discussion of Gellar buying her daughter a Jeep and facing online backlash. The hosts argue it's nobody’s business and muse about their own/ideal approaches to kids and cars.
  • Quote (Josh, 38:25): “Any 16-year-old that gets a brand new car...is definitely nice. Most of us get used crappy cars, if we get a car.”

9. Recurring Segments & Listener Questions

• "You're Having a Good Day, How About Now?" ([43:15])
  • The hosts share darkly funny facts to “ruin” your good mood.
    • Examples:
      • Fanta was invented by the Nazis (Ben, 43:46).
      • Non-board-certified doctors can perform plastic surgery (Josh, 44:02).
      • NY-style delis aren’t health code regulated (Ben, 44:22).
• Moron Mail (Listener Q&A) ([49:20])
  • Cocaine in Relationships: Woman asks what to do about boyfriend who does cocaine with friends. Both hosts strongly caution against the habit, suggesting it’s a potential dealbreaker depending on age and seriousness.
    • Quote (Josh, 53:18): “Coke is a real losery drug, and people that do coke are losers. But...most of us go through a loser phase.”
  • Noisy Coworker: Advice for working next to someone constantly clearing their throat. Suggestions include weaponized empathy and “shaming with love.”

10. What Are You Nuts? (Gripes of the Week)

• [59:22]
  • Ben laments perfume spritzers in department stores, especially with a baby in tow:
    • Quote (Ben, 60:18): “Don’t spray your Varvatos cologne on my four month old son.”
  • Josh vents about streaming platforms taking original shows offline for tax purposes, making them unavailable anywhere.
    • Quote (Josh, 62:58): “The show Turner & Hooch does not exist in any world ever anymore...Can’t we get it? I want to show my kids!”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ben on Tucker Carlson ([00:40]): “Tucker Carlson...needs to go in a hole and...he needs to go away at this point.”
• Josh on Forgiveness ([03:37]): “The most important person there, Erika Kirk...her level of forgiveness and grace...the hardest thing anyone could ever face.”
• Ben ([05:32]): “You think that’s what leads to Jewish guilt? We have to hold onto this for 365 days...”
• Josh on Cancel Culture ([11:05]): "It feels like there was government overreach in him [Kimmel] getting...like them weighing on Disney."
• Ben on Podcasts and Media Shifts ([12:57]): "Late night television is dead...Podcasting is that right? Trump can't tell me and you what to do."
• Josh ([14:14]): "It's dangerous whenever a president...leans on major media."
• Josh ([20:28]): "The place where both parties meet on the far reaches is a dislike for us."
• Ben ([43:46]): "Having a good day? Fanta was made by the Nazis. How about now?"
• Josh ([53:18]): “Coke is a real losery drug, and people that do coke are losers.”
• Ben ([60:18]): “Don’t spray your Varvatos cologne on my four month old son.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------|--------------| | Reaction to Tucker Carlson | 00:24–03:35 | | Jewish Holidays & Forgiveness | 03:35–06:42 | | Kimmel Show & Cancel Culture | 08:08–19:55 | | Media Regulation & Podcasting | 12:57–22:43 | | Late Night Comedy, Press, Identity | 14:14–21:46 | | Jewish Identity & Political Shifts | 19:55–21:46 | | Rosh Hashanah Dinner Discussion | 27:24–34:37 | | Charlie Sheen – Addiction Story | 35:11–36:43 | | Sarah Michelle Gellar Car Controversy | 36:46–43:15 | | "You're Having a Good Day, How About..."| 43:15–45:06 | | Listener Q&A / Moron Mail | 49:20–59:19 | | "What Are You Nuts?" | 59:21–end |

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Flow, Tone & Style

The episode remains fast-paced, irreverent, and comedic even as the hosts address dark or complex topics. Banter and inside jokes soften the social critique, with authentic, at times vulnerable, discussion of Jewish holidays, family, food, and forgiveness. Listener questions get played for laughs but are met with real advice, often peppered with sharp, memorable one-liners and shared personal histories.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Show

This episode delivers a mixture of outrage at bigoted speech, thoughtful discussion on cancel culture, nostalgia for family and food, and hilarious pop culture detours—all while maintaining the hosts’ signature playful, self-deprecating style. Whether highlighting the dangers of unchecked media censorship, pondering the future of podcasts, or swapping holiday recipes and teenage car stories, Josh and Ben guide you through serious and silly subjects with candor and wit.

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Major Takeaway:
The Good Guys tackle anti-Semitism, freedom of speech, media, and morality with humor and heart, bridging the personal and the political, the serious and the absurd—making for an episode that’s both thought-provoking and wildly entertaining.

Transcript

[Olivia]

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[Josh]

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[Ben]

And if you don't give us five stars.

[Josh]

What are you nuts?

[Ben]

What are you nuts?

[Josh]

Yeah, we're the good guys. They're not the great guys. We're just the good of the good of the good guys. Mazda morons. Welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. I'm sitting here with a guy that, when Tucker Carlson talks about people sitting around eating hummus, he means this guy. It's Ben Sovereign.

[Ben]

I. Josh, I sent that to you instantly. I was like, honestly, what the fuck is going on here? Yeah, I saw that clip. For those of you that didn't see it, Charlie Kirk had a memorial service. And how many people went, Josh? Like 100,000. It was like a football stadium. Is unbelievable. Huge turnout. And the clip that I saw there were, again, a lot of wonderful moments, like, good tributes. Tucker Carlson really just needs to, like, go in a hole and. And like, he needs to go away at this point. Like him and Candace Owens. I don't want to get too into Candace Owens. The two of them, though, they need to go somewhere else and at least get away from like, my. For you feed my algorithm. I don't want to see them anymore. Tucker Carlson got up there and basically compared what happened with Charlie Kirk to what the Jews did to Jesus. Was what he implied that a bunch of Jews sat around eating hummus, deciding that Jesus spoke a little bit too much truth and killed him. Which is like the deepest of deep anti Semitic tropes.

[Josh]

It's the first one.

[Ben]

It's the first one to get people to hate Jews. You tell the largest religion in the world that they murdered their captain. Yeah, like, that is the number. Even though it's been disputed over and over and over and over again.

[Josh]

Sure, we might have said, he's over there. No, I'm kidding.

[Ben]

Sure, sure. But we don't kill people because of what they say. That's the core root of this whole thing. Yes, there are plenty of opinions that we don't like, we don't kill people over it. And this idea that Tucker Carlson came out saying just like.

[Josh]

And.

[Ben]

And nobody laughed. Yeah, I can't believe he was even on a podium.

[Josh]

He laughed. Whatever with that cat.

[Ben]

He's lost it. He's lost it.

[Josh]

I'm just glad that vineyard vines makes 4x. And also, I just have to say that he makes, you know, I'm a proprietor of Nicotine Pouches and he has his own company. And I just am here to tell you they suck. They suck. Do they? My father in law didn't like them either. I pawned him off on my father in law. I said, hey, Ken, you want to try these? He's like, not for me.

[Ben]

They suck. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry to start the show off on such a sour note, but I saw this, and I was really angry around. I was really angry because, like, this is not right and, like, this is not representative. I hated that it happened there, too. Like, I hated that it happened at a memorial service for Charlie Kirk. Like, I don't think that what he said represents the values of most people in that room. Like, I. It really upset me. That's all.

[Josh]

I agree.

[Ben]

Yeah, let's turn it around.

[Josh]

I agree. Don't worry. I have some good news. But. And in closing, I will say the most important person there, Erica Kirk, I thought, really has spoken beautifully and her level of forgiveness and grace and the hardest thing anyone could ever face. I give her a tremendous amount of credit, and I hope for more that we take more of that. Cue everyone, of forgiveness and grace and just having a little bit of pausing when agitated. Restraint of pen and tongue.

[Ben]

Yeah, Josh, it's an interesting time, and then I know you're gonna turn this episode around and take us out of gloomsville, but it's an interesting time where we are recording on Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year. But by the time this episode comes out, because we record about a week early, it will be Yom Kippur, which is the Jewish holiday of forgiveness. So I thought that I would just mention that parallel in what you said, given that we're still on a serious, somber note. But, yes, forgive. Well, I. I think and say sorry and then forgive.

[Josh]

Well, Yom Kippur is the day of atonement, so we're being forgiven for our sins.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

Right. And then in doing so, we forgive others.

[Ben]

Yes, yes. You're basically, it's. It's your blank slate holiday. It's your. You go, you atone for your sins, and you hope that not only Hashem or God, but that the people around you forgive you as well. It's one of those.

[Josh]

Love it.

[Ben]

My favorite. My favorite holiday. I love it. I sit there, I think, and then I eat well.

[Josh]

I love that the Catholics do it once a week, and the Jews said fair. Once a year is fine, and we'll. We'll starve ourselves for the first half of the day to show we mean it.

[Ben]

Yes, yes. We're starving ourselves the 24 hour fast. You know, it's interesting. I've never really thought about it. We. Yes, we do it once a year. Catholics do it whenever. You think that's what leads to Jewish guilt. We have to hold on to this for 365 days versus in Catholicism. You can hold on to it for a minute. Could be, I don't know, there's. Jewish guilt is real. You either have it or you don't like. You either get it or you don't like. You walk around, you're just guilty all the time. Probably because your sins are weighing on you and you can unleash them. I bet you the day of the least Jewish guilt is the day after Yom Kippur.

[Josh]

Yeah, it would be interesting. I don't know. I mean, the Catholics surely have a good amount of guilt too. Like, there's no. Olivia's nodding her head here if, you know, we have one right here in the flesh.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

So, I mean, come on. But yeah, I think in general, although, like, you know, in 12 step, we have part of it is that you look at your day at the end of every day. You look at your day, you take a quick, like, spot inventory where we could have been better, where we owe an amends. And I think like most religions offer that too, if you really want to look at things.

[Ben]

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[Josh]

Well, I listen, I'm going to bring it. I'm going to bring us back. I've got some good news I want to share with the pod, with the audience. I booked a show for next week. I'm going to be doing a special guest appearance. My first time ever on the Jimmy Kimmel Show. I'm really excited and. Why are you guys laughing? No, it's gonna be great. I'm actually the first guest, which is a real. It shows off my level of celebrity. And yeah, they haven't gotten any details to me yet. But I'm excited.

[Ben]

I was really excited for some really good news. That's really funny. That's really funny. You know what I found out, which is also really funny. You know who else? They share a manager, what's his name, who also just recently got killed. Colbert. Colbert and Kimmel share the same manager. That guy's having a terrible month.

[Josh]

I believe it. Well, he's had an incredible decade, though.

[Ben]

He's had an incredible 30 years. Yeah, I saw him. I guess we're going to talk about Kimmel. Yeah, look, I know we're a little bit delayed. It doesn't mean our opinions don't matter. I am so with the people on freedom of speech is incredibly important. That said, we've been canceling people for the last six years for saying things 20 years before. So I think there's like this, like, tough line where it's like your freedom. You're free to speak in this country. You're not free of consequences in this country, especially from private organizations. When I've canceled his show. If I was abc. No, but ABC does that. ABC did it with Bill Maher. I don't know if you saw the clip, but Bill Maher, like, was canceled for something incredibly similar 20 years ago and replaced by Jimmy Kimmel. And it's just like the. It just happens. So I think, like, this whole, like, this is unprecedented. We've never seen it before. It's incredibly precedented. It stinks, right? Like, regardless of what you think of Kimmel, it stinks. He went on to do his show. And he said something, by the way, I don't think his show is getting canceled. I think he'll come back personally. It's like a suspension, hiatus, whatever it may be. I think he'll come back.

[Josh]

But they said they were clearing out the set.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah, they're done.

[Josh]

I mean, I think most people are assuming it's a done. But then I saw on Twitter or something that, like, they were clearing, which would. That would be impossible. They wouldn't do that within a day.

[Ben]

But, like, how do you feel? Or if you want to respond to what I said first, you can do that. Or just how do you feel? Like people are saying this is unprecedented. People over the last. How long is cancel culture? Like, formally cancel culture, where you go, you don't like someone and what they say, so you dig through their past and you find a tweet that you don't like, and then you ruin their career, take away their shows, take away their revenue streams. Like, when did that start? 10 years ago, 8 years ago? Like, why is that? Why is that different than what this is? And why is this a problem? But that's not a problem.

[Josh]

Here's where it's unprecedented. I totally agree with everything you're saying. What is alleged here, and there's some very clear evidence to it, but we don't know. The totality of it is because Trump said a week before Kimmel's next, and because the FCC chair the day the morning of said that people need to, basically, the distributors of Jimmy's show throughout the country need to start leaning on ABC to do a disciplinary action for Jimmy and say, we're not going to distribute his show anymore. And he intimated that, and if not, maybe we will revoke their license to be able to distribute. So basically, I think what is different here is it feels like there was government overreach in him getting, like them weighing on Disney and here. And we don't know the answer. This is alleged, of course. But I've been thinking a lot about it. The problem is, is that as we saw with the CBS Paramount deal, that needed governmental approval to close, right? And all of these major media corporations need government. They need to work with the government. And so what I was thinking was, even if the government never said a thing, do you. They almost don't have to, right? Because any savvy CEO chairman is going to be like, I can't go against the biggest guy in the world, and I need their approval to get these mergers, to get these things done. And I think that's kind of, it's a little bit of the scary part that they almost don't even have to say anything because you know that if you go against them, they're not going to approve your deals.

[Ben]

I completely agree with. You should have the ability to say whatever you want. But that's what a podcast is. That's not to your point. Like broadcast is a different world and it's such a larger conversation because that medium is. Is dead. Is dead. Late night television is dead. Like people who, like we can have a more intimate, fun conversation with a celebrity and I think we do. Then a Fallon can have, which by the way, I'm sure he's holding his breath, but that a Fallon can have with a celebrity. Right? The new medium of late night television. I'm sure there's a better version than just your run of the mill podcasts. But podcasting is that right? And you, you're not like Trump can't tell me and you what to do, right? Clikes like. But it's, it's the connection to the deals and it's the connection to the broadcast medium that I think is, is still playing by older rules. So he has the right without it being a freedom of speech violation to say I don't, I don't want you talking negatively about me because I'm your boss. Like what do you think about that? I'm not saying that's right. I'm just thinking through it.

[Josh]

I don't think, I think it's dangerous whenever a president, I mean it's the freedom of the press, right? And that's the whole idea that the press keeps the powers that be in check, right. This is in theory why we want our lawmakers not to just be lobbied by billionaires. Right. It's to keep the billionaires out because they can sway so much power with their, their level of, you know, the, their ability in which to persuade fiscally. But yeah, man, I mean look, TV is tough, right? Because there is the assumption. It's the same thing with radio. It's governed by the fcc. Cuz there is the assumption that it's for everyone. It's like a public utility, especially when you're on the major networks. So you are, you can't say the seven deadly words. You have to keep a certain level of censorship just because it's assumed that you are inviting everyone to watch it. If you have hbo, something's behind a paywall, a podcast, a book go off hun. Cause it's like someone needs to pay for it. Or a kid, in theory, would need approval to consume it. I don't know what kid's up late night going, I gotta see what Guillermo is gonna say. But you know what I'm saying.

[Ben]

Yeah, but. And why, like, what's stopping the FCC from monitoring podcasts? They're free.

[Josh]

Because it's. I think the assumption is that. Well, I guess. But I think it's just they regulate certain bodies, and they do not regulate.

[Ben]

Podcasts as they regulate certain bodies today. So the bigger slippery slope, scary conversation is if the FCC is able to do something like this, which I haven't heard anybody talk about it like this before. And the FCC obviously will grow with the times. Like, they'll only start to really think about podcasting, I'm sure, in a decade, because they're so slow. But then all of a sudden, it completely changes the medium. Right? And then all of a sudden, you have precedent of if the FCC doesn't like what you said, then they can fire a podcast host or pull a podcast or.

[Josh]

Right.

[Ben]

There's a. That's a slippery slope that I don't, like, 100%.

[Josh]

I mean, look, we have to be able to completely rail against our government officials verbally in a, you know, in a nonviolent way. Like, that's. That's just it. That was at the heart of, you know, the White House Correspondents Dinner always rang kind of funny to me, right? Because basically the whole idea was that the president goes and gets roasted by the press, who are the ones keeping him in check. Right. But yeah, it always. And some people held it as, like, this sort of distillation of the best part of our country where, you know, the top brass and the press sit and they laugh and they drink for an evening, and they all kind of accept their roles in this gigantic sort of system. I always thought it was weird that the president of the New York Times is, like, hobnobbing with a senator. I'm like, no, Isn't your job to be like, I'm fucking watching you, Jack. Like, make sure you keep things together, because I will write a scathing piece the moment you get out of line. And I think it's weird when they're, like, sharing hors d', oeuvres, being like, can you believe? So I don't know, obviously. And I'm not, you know, I'm the one millionth person to say the press is extremely important. And you worry that if, like, it starts with late night, could it go to one day the New York Times.

[Ben]

Yeah, I just. I have so many thoughts. Like you talk about a roast. Like I think at the core of all of this, and we always say this, if something's funny enough, then I don't think people take issue with it. I do think that Kimmel and Colbert, and it's not just them, I think Bill Maher does this too. But again, he is not on ABC anymore. I do think that they take a non funny tone and if they were roasting him it would be a little bit different. I think that it turned from a funny late night. Like that's what late night, not all of it, but them two in particular. Like they're comedians. Right. And I do think that when they talk about Trump and when they've spoken about Trump, they stopped feeling the need to be funny. And I do think that that's sort of when things swayed. It was no longer we're making fun of his hair, we're making fun of his policies or were. You can even call out somebody's character if you do it in a funny way. I feel like it just flipped to like fuck him.

[Josh]

You know, I think Bill, Bill Maher is separate. I think he's still quite brilliant. And he's always been a political comedian. Like his show is based around politics. And to his credit, he always has on people from every side. He's willing to get into the muck. And he always says, and it's how I identify myself. He's like, I'm, you know, I'm liberal, I'm not woke. Right. That's what he always says. Like if he prides himself on being like an old school Democrat. Which is how I think of myself for today.

[Ben]

And for the record, just cuz I read the comments. Me too. I think of myself as him as well.

[Josh]

Right.

[Ben]

And like when I see people mentioning like Oben's, Ben's a Republican or conservative or whatever it may be, I'm. Every single thing that Bill Maher has ever said I agree with. I've never listened to him and thought otherwise. Yeah, I think, I think, yeah, I think the lines have moved.

[Josh]

But yeah, I mean I'm. I'm with. I'm also with Bill Maher in that way. And it's a fascinating thing that you talk about with Tucker in certain ways. Like I, over the last couple years I understandably have watched friends who were Jewish feel like they weren't, you know, people on the left weren't speaking up enough for the anti Semitism that was being experienced in the country. Right. And so many of them moved far more right than they had ever been because they felt like they were the only people speaking up. To which I said to them, I love you.

[Ben]

Do you, babe?

[Josh]

Understand? I said, don't forget that the place where both parties meet on the far reaches is a dislike for us. I said, so we're not safe anywhere. And that Tucker beat the other night was a perfect embodiment of like, just don't forget we're not really safe anywhere. And that's just unfortunately kind of been our journey throughout all of time. But yeah, I just, you know, I agree with you. I think that it gets to a certain point where people feel as though they're speaking truth to power. They get a platform. People get into their 50s and 60s. It's so telling. Right? We're seeing it with Rogan now. I mean, where they feel like I just need to use my power to speak up about how I feel and that I see things specifically, that the world isn't quite seeing the way I am. And there was always an uncle at Thanksgiving who was that way. But they didn't have a platform of a million, 10 million, 50 million. So we hear it the most with these guys, which I think it would be more interesting to see new late night people that didn't look like the old guard and see what they had to say.

[Ben]

Yeah, it would be. I'm now stuck. My brain is now stuck in thinking about the FCC as it relates to podcasts because Rogan's views are so much larger than any, any TV station. So I feel like it's like. And I wonder what podcasting would look like because this, this is that medium. Video podcasts are late night television.

[Josh]

Sure.

[Ben]

What Call Her Daddy does when she brings on a guest. That. That's the same thing. Like, I know that it happens in a different environment. The same thing with, with, with Rogan. These like truly guest based shows. I feel like it's. I feel like it's gotta be soon that they regulate it. And then what happens when they regulate it? My brain is going everywhere now.

[Josh]

Olivia's not gonna stand for it. That's why.

[Ben]

No good.

[Olivia]

Not at all.

[Josh]

That's when we move. What else? Then we go full Patreon and that's it. And sorry, paywall. That's it.

[Ben]

Then you'll hear what we really have to say.

[Josh]

Oh, my God, that's it. How quickly do we get canceled after we start a Patreon? I'm giving us a month.

[Olivia]

I think I'm going to.

[Ben]

Less, less, less.

[Josh]

It's gonna be bad.

[Ben]

Oh, man.

[Josh]

I love it. Listen, we're smart. Where's Olivia?

[Ben]

Smart. It's a bear cat.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Ben]

Is that right?

[Olivia]

Yeah, yeah, that's right.

[Ben]

It's a bear cat.

[Josh]

Here, this is. What's the mascot for yeshiva? The yids?

[Ben]

The. Yeah, I don't know. The yarmulke?

[Josh]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Ben]

Who the.

[Josh]

You don't know your mascot from your college?

[Ben]

It's. Maybe it's the. No, it wasn't very sporty. There's something. It's. What is it blue? I don't know.

[Josh]

We didn't have a mascot for homeschool. The Enmeshed Boys.

[Olivia]

Was it the Maccabees, Ben?

[Josh]

Yes. Nice.

[Ben]

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[Josh]

You spoke earlier to Rosh Hashanah so you are getting ready to have a beautiful first night dinner at your house. Walk us through. What's the prep look like? What's on the menu?

[Ben]

Oh my. This is a big. This is a big deal. Like I Have not hosted a group like this in my. In my, like, cooking era. Like, I'm taking it very seriously. Like, it's. It's very important to me that this meal is considered. And I will read you the exact menu, Josh, because it's elaborate. First, we're starting off. We're starting off with some. My sister is allergic to gluten. So we have two different types of starters. We have a nice pigs in a blanket. We have a nice little. It's like a shawarma pastry I found at the kosher grocery. I'm just heating it up. It looks amazing. It's like shawarma in a puff pastry. But she doesn't eat puff pastry. So for her, I got yellowtail, I got tuna, and I got salmon, and I made some sashimi. I made a yellowtail jalapeno. I made a, like, salmon and scallions. And I made a tuna belly. And it's going to be like, there's some soy sauce, there's some wasabi, et cetera. Just pickings. Pickings. Non traditional Russia. Shut up. For sure. But very excited about it. That's going to be out there for people to nosh on. Then, Josh, we go into a soup course. Wait.

[Josh]

I have to say, isn't it fascinating that Jews are obsessed with pigs in a blanket, but we don't eat pig.

[Ben]

Yes. Which is fine. Yes. And we need to rename it to cow in a blanket.

[Josh]

Muslims don't eat pig either. Can you imagine them being like. Like, ali, do you want, like, a pig in a sleeping bag? It's crazy.

[Ben]

It's crazy. No, the term pig in a blanket, it doesn't make any sense. It's also. It's so mean. Yeah. Like, you're gonna put, like, a nice pig in a blanket and then burn him and eat him. So mean. It's so mean. Okay, wait, where is the rest of my menu? Menu, menu. Sorry, give me one second.

[Josh]

Oh, this is great.

[Ben]

It's big. It's big. Okay, we have the chicken soup, which we've made just, like, onions. Classic onions, celery, carrots, chicken soup. Chicken. My dad, as you know. Yes. Makes. Eats no meat. So we made him a butternut squash. That is the. That is the vegetarian option.

[Josh]

So he wouldn't just do, like, pick around the chicken. Like, he wouldn't consume the broth.

[Ben]

Like, he might. I just prefer to make sure that Bruce is comfortable, you know, Fair. Make sure that just in case he doesn't want to.

[Josh]

Fair.

[Ben]

Then, Josh, we have a mashed potato. We have A roasted vegetable medley. We're talking about carrots, butternut squash, brussels sprouts, onions. Just pan roasted, oven roasted. I made an orzo with roasted vegetables, roasted red peppers, eggplants, onion, garlic, zucchini. Also, for my dad, I made a roasted eggplant with pomegranates. The theme, Rosh Hashanah, is all about fruits. It's all about nu. It's all about apples, honey, pomegranate seeds. So we did pomegranate seeds, parsley, chinna, which is like a nice sesame. Sesame paste. I made an apple and pomegranate slaw. Josh, think of that. Coleslaw. But apples and pomegranates, okay? And then I did the most unbelievable brisket. This is six and a half pounds of second cut, first cut, not fatty enough. And I've made that mistake in the past. You see first cut, you're like, oh, this is. This is what I should be using.

[Josh]

Got a liner. Got it early.

[Ben]

Yeah, first cut. Really? Second cut is the better cut for brisket. A little bit fattier leads to more juicy pieces. So I've made first cut brisket. I've made second cut brisket. I highly recommend second cut brisket. And what else? I got four different kinds of honey, Josh. I'm making an apple and honey platter. I got a regular honey. I found a blueberry honey, like infused a pomegranate honey. And there's a fourth, a truffle honey. Now, Josh, I'm going all out.

[Josh]

Let me ask you this, because as we know, the Jews, they don't mix milk and meat. But this presents a problem to have a mash, right? Because as we know, a mash, it must.

[Ben]

This is a non dairy mash.

[Josh]

How can that be?

[Katherine]

Lies.

[Ben]

Ready? Ready. I'll tell you. And I looked into it because my sister. It makes it a lot easier for me to abide by these because my sister's also allergic to dairy. She got the worst of it. No gluten, no dairy.

[Josh]

Poor Maddie.

[Ben]

It's very hard for her. But the second she discovered it, my God, did she become skinny. She used to be one of us. And then boom. No dairy, no gluten, svelte.

[Josh]

Fabulous.

[Ben]

Like a supermodel.

[Josh]

Good for her.

[Ben]

And the way that you make mashed potatoes, Josh, without dairy. How would you thicken a pasta, Josh, if you didn't want to use cream, a little olive oil and a little pasta water because it's starchy. You can use the starchy potato water to thicken your mash. No, I haven't made it yet. I haven't made it yet. I'll let you know how it's not.

[Josh]

Going to be great.

[Ben]

I'll let you know. I'll keep you posting. I'm leaning on the fact that there's going to be a fuck ton of roasted garlic in it.

[Josh]

Can you use vegan?

[Ben]

And I'm going to do my best.

[Josh]

Are you going to use like vegan butter? You do vegan butter?

[Ben]

Nothing. I'm using oil, salt, pepper, potatoes, potato water, garlic, garlic powder, onion powder, a lot. Yeah.

[Josh]

What about.

[Ben]

I think the oil is necessary. I agree.

[Josh]

I know why you're doing mash. Because you want a bed for the brisket to lay upon.

[Ben]

Yes, yes.

[Josh]

As we know, potatoes are the tempur pedic to the brisket.

[Ben]

Yes, they are.

[Josh]

Is there a different style of potato that you could do that doesn't require so much dairy? Or as I saw you make your beautiful Queen Claudia, perhaps on a rice. I know Maddie can eat rice.

[Ben]

I was thinking about rice. There's just something so nice about having a bed of potatoes under your. Under your brisket. But you're 100% right. I could have done a nice rice. I could have done. I cooked with a Persian chef recently and we made tadig.

[Josh]

Taddig.

[Ben]

This is like a crispy, gorgeous turmeric and saffrony rice. Gorgeous. Could have done that. I don't know. You know, it's not too late. I could nix the mashed potatoes. I just. I want mashed potatoes. I really do. You're right. They're so much better with butter.

[Josh]

It's.

[Ben]

God. I guess I could use margarine. Yeah, just go and get margarine.

[Josh]

You could do vegan butters. I mean, we do a lot of that in my house and it works.

[Ben]

The vegan butterfly. Yeah.

[Josh]

Fabulous.

[Ben]

Right? So I'm gonna go get a vegan butter. You're right. I'm not gonna mess around. You could do. I'm not gonna mess around. I could do a vegan parm. Yeah, a vegan parm. Which is probably just nuts, right? Like cashews or something.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben]

All right, I'm in. All right, I'm gonna do that. Tell me, how do we have this conversation?

[Josh]

I. I love. There's that clip of that famous chef who used to cook Anna winter lunch every day. Have you seen that? Yes, I love that.

[Ben]

Is it Jeffrey Zakarian? Is that who did it?

[Josh]

Sounds like it.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And how she'd want a burger bloody.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Josh]

And then mashed potatoes that were like 60% butter.

[Ben]

That's the way to do it. Yeah, that's the way to do it. Also, get your chunky mashed potatoes out of here. Sorry. I want it smooth as silk. Yes, smooth.

[Josh]

Should we get to a story?

[Ben]

We should.

[Josh]

Did you know that Charlie Sheen was cut off by the Mexican cartel over his massive cocaine consumption? Charlie Sheen once purchased so much cocaine, the Mexican cartel put a halt to his consumption. The cartel cut you off? Journalist Amelia Adams asked a two and a half man alum. He said they did. They did. They had never seen someone acquiring that kind of weight, Sheen sixly added, referring to the amount of grams he would request. The only other people that they were delivering that kind of weight to were dealers. They thought I was dealing on the side. Adams then asked the actor if it was true that he was smoking seven gram rocks of crack cocaine. Well, we never took one out and put it on a scale, but that was the amount that was cooked to get it into that form.

[Ben]

That's a lot.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben]

It was an amazing doc. I know we spoke about it last a couple episodes ago. It was an amazing documentary. If you haven't seen it, you absolutely need to watch it. And the fact that his drug dealer was the one who weaned him off the crack rocks is still something that I can't get out of my head. What a good friend, you know, like, like he easily, like, Charlie Sheen would have bought crack from somebody else if it wasn't this guy. So anybody saying, like, oh, but he still sold him crack. Like, no, he sold him crack to keep him alive. Otherwise somebody else would have sold him the crack and Charlie Sheen would have died. Or maybe he wouldn't have died, but it is, right?

[Josh]

Yeah, it's beautiful.

[Ben]

And he ends up. And he ends up marrying the crack dealer or something like.

[Josh]

Yeah, that'd be beautiful. Love it.

[Ben]

Me too.

[Josh]

Well, did you know Sarah Michelle Gellar got called out for buying daughter a ridiculously expensive car on 16th birthday? Sarah Michelle Gellar faced backlash online after she revealed she gifted her daughter Charlotte a ridiculously expensive jeep for her 16th birthday. Fans gathered in the comments section of the Buffy Stars Friday Instagram post in which she wished her teen a happy birthday to call her out for the disappointing parenting move. Happy birthday, Charlotte. Don't normalize. Gifting ridiculously expensive cars to new and young drivers. I think you've taken away from your wonderful daughter's birthday. Sadly, one social media user wrote. Give me a break. I don't like that at all.

[Ben]

No, everybody should just, like, leave people alone. That said, when you post something online, you open it up to the criticism. Could have gifted it in private and nobody would ever know. But I'm sure that she was incredibly proud of it. And look, if you want to, if you have the money to do it and you want to spoil your kids, spoil your kids. I don't think that there's such thing as spoiling your kids with a Jeep. I could be way off base. It's a Jeep.

[Josh]

You can get one, you can lease one right now for 350 bucks a month. It's one of the best lease deals.

[Ben]

It's a Jeep.

[Josh]

Like, it actually doesn't make sense. By SoCal Jeep. No.

[Ben]

Yeah, right. But like it doesn't. Those two things, like spoiling your daughter with a ridiculously expensive Jeep, like, it's just, it's not, it's not a thing. Like what is the most expensive Jeep? It's not like she got her a, a Bentley or a Lamborghini or something. I haven't seen a picture of the car, but like, sick.

[Josh]

I mean, I'm sure it's a $60,000 Jeep.

[Ben]

Like it's okay.

[Josh]

Getting. Look, any, I think any 16 year old that gets a brand new car, like even if it's a Corolla or you know, a Mercedes, like, is definitely like nice. Most of us get like used crappy cars if we get a car.

[Ben]

Totally. And I do think it's. Again, these are just like personal parenting opinions. But I do think it's a rite of passage to get that crappy car. If you get a car at all. It makes you appreciate these things more. But that's not my job to like do the parenting for her. I do think that she would appreciate a car more if she was able to buy her brand new souped up Jeep herself, if that's what she really wanted when she was 24. And today you got her a year old car. But her old car, by the way, is probably a 9 11. Like, like it is what it is. Like when you're, when you're rich. Like, I don't think that she's driving. I don't think Sarah Michelle Geller is driving around in a Toyota Sienna. So if she gifts it to her, it's going to be a really nice car anyway. So what do you do? I think the Jeep is actually probably the very appropriate, normal option for Sarah Michelle Geller's daughter.

[Josh]

I think so too. I just don't think it's anyone's business. Like, it is what it is. I, I think we should all go around the room and say what I want young Max or my kids to have is like a whatever the year is, a five, five year prior Volvo. I'm talking safe. I'm talking kind of like anti. Cool. It's cool and just safe, safe, safe. And if it gets into a wreck, they'll be okay and we won't be too upset. Ben, what's Ruby's first car gonna be? He's like a Testarossa.

[Ben]

I think Ruby's first car is. It completely depends on where we live. If we still live in the city, he won't have a first car.

[Josh]

Sure.

[Ben]

Like he'll be using whatever I use. He's more than welcome to borrow it.

[Josh]

Bruce's suburban dad. It smells like vodka sauce.

[Ben]

Yeah, that was the best. And it's also, I don't know, it's too. I actually don't know how people do it in suburbia. Like it's way too much freedom to give a 15 year old, a 16 year old a car where they can just go and come as they please. Like, I'm sure that my parents would have been very uncomfortable with that. Like I needed to tell them, hi, I'm using the car to go and do X. When you have your own car, you can just go to free. Like, I don't know, like I feel like you shouldn't have that level of freedom until you are a little bit more responsible than 16. But yeah, so it'll be whatever I, whatever I have or what's going to be the cool car? Josh, in 18 years we'll do a Volvo. I'm down something safe, safe, safe, safe. Safety is key.

[Josh]

Olivia.

[Olivia]

Yeah, I think. Well, my first car was a 2000 Ford Taurus that burned oil and the window fell down all the time. So anything that's like a little bit up from that, probably a little bit safer. The gas light too didn't work, so I just run out of gas because I just had no idea where I was. But so I don't know, maybe like my mom had like a Honda Accord. I feel like that nice car. It's stable, it's safe. Maybe one that's, you know, similar to what you said a few years, you know, back safe, good to go, doesn't need like a ton of work, but we can keep it going. And then they got to learn to take care of it to make sure they get that oil changed.

[Josh]

I got my license in 2002 and then or 2003 and my first car was a 87 Mercedes Benz 300E. It was sick. Seafoam sea green. It was the best.

[Ben]

Wow. Beautiful. Ooh, that's. I need a, I need a picture of that.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I was just, I was going to say like one of my best friends growing up, his, his dad got him the sickest cars ever. Like his first car was like a BMW 6 series. He's like, again, 15.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Ben]

And then when he became of age, he got a Volvo. Like, you can't go back to that. Like once if your parents are buying you 100 plus thousand dollars cars, just know that your kid can't ever. You can't get back there.

[Josh]

Right.

[Ben]

So you can give it to them, but know what you're doing, which is, I think while it's a lovely gesture, you're like robbing them of the fun of being able to get a Mercedes seafoam green in 1987 when they've earned it.

[Josh]

Right.

[Ben]

Like, which is like such a better feeling than being 15. You won't, you don't realize it when you're 15 because when you're 15 you get handed that you feel like you're on top of the world. But I'm telling you, looking back, like, he would have preferred to have gotten a very normal whatever car so that as he progressed and he bought things with his own money, it could like be continuously going up, if that makes sense.

[Josh]

Should we get to our new segment? You having a good day? How about now?

[Ben]

Yes. Yes. We're trying things, folks. We're trying things. I think this one's gonna land.

[Josh]

I think we've actually done it a few times, but as we all know, I've broken social media with my you're having a good day, how about now?

[Ben]

Series.

[Josh]

So we thought we would incorporate it into the podcast with some fun facts that are totally gonna bum you out. Ben.

[Ben]

Got one. Yeah. Having a good day? How bound. Oh, wait, what do I say? Having a good day. And then I say it. How about now?

[Josh]

Sure.

[Ben]

Having. And I'm just gonna. Okay. Having a good day. Fanta was made by the Nazis. How about now?

[Josh]

Got any more facts about that?

[Ben]

I mean, let's look here.

[Josh]

I've got one.

[Ben]

Hey. Okay.

[Josh]

Having a good day. Did you know that you can get plastic surgery from someone who isn't a board certified plastic surgeon? They could just be a doctor, any kind of doctor, a radiologist, a podiatrist, a dermatologist. They took a weekend class and suddenly they're giving you a bad broken nose job. How about now?

[Ben]

Terrible. Oh, I have a great One that I actually just learned. Having a good day. Do you know that bodegas, as in New York style delis, do not need. They don't have health grades. They don't. They're not governed by the board of health. So when you go and get a. So when you go and get a sandwich, they literally could have had. They could have a rat sitting under the turkey and nobody would give two shits. How about now?

[Josh]

Hell yeah.

[Ben]

Why do I want to say how about now? Like I in a garden. Have a. Having a good day. How about now?

[Josh]

Have you.

[Ben]

How easy is that?

[Josh]

Have you seen that TikTok of a guy who goes, this is my impression of a sassy ass owl. And it just goes, who?

[Ben]

Ah. It's funny.

[Josh]

I love it.

[Ben]

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[Josh]

Should we get to some more on mail?

[Ben]

Yes. Oh, another rebrand. Goodbye. Speak pipe. I know we've said it in the past. We're no longer giving that really great company, by the way. Really fantastic. But we're no longer plugging them. We've plugged them enough, okay. We've been plugging them since Marshall. I think Marshall's the CEO of Speak Bite.

[Josh]

Probably.

[Ben]

Okay? He probably is. He gets equity in it. Moron mail. That was. That was crowdsourced, right? People wanted it, people got it. It's moron mail. Maybe Josh. We get the little sound. You've got mail. Maybe we make one of those and we put it in. Olivia, can we do that in person?

[Judy]

Definitely.

[Olivia]

I got you.

[Ben]

You've got mail. Moron mail. You've got mail.

[Josh]

Or maybe we could do like, you are not smart. Or like.

[Olivia]

Give me a couple sound bites.

[Josh]

You're a moron.

[Ben]

You're moron mail.

[Josh]

Moron mail. I like that.

[Ben]

Moron moron mail.

[Josh]

All right, well, if you want to send us more on mail, go to speakpipe.com. good guys.

[Ben]

No, we need more on mail dot com. Good guys. How do we make it? Olivia, can you make that for us, too?

[Olivia]

Let me get HTML certified.

[Josh]

Let me just code some python. Go to dot com. Goodguides. Keep it brief. Brevity's key. But if you want a question or you want some advice, go for it. This first one is from Katherine.

[Katherine]

Hi, good guys. Brevity's key. Such a fan. I have been dating my boyfriend for about nine months. He is the best ever. My family loves him. I love him. My friends love him. Couldn't get any better. But the one issue I do have is that from the very beginning, I've always. My issue. He loves cocaine. And I do not like drugs. I do not like cocaine. I don't like any of it. And he doesn't do it when we're together or when he's with my family or when we're traveling. But when he's with friends, especially certain group of friends, I know that he does cocaine and I hate it. And I told him I hate it. And when he's with a certain group, he won't stop. What do I do? He's awesome. He's great. But when he gets with this one group, which is a lot because we do like to have, you know, that's where we go out with our own friend groups. We're not glued out the hip. And he does cocaine. What do I do?

[Ben]

Damn. I didn't know where this was going. First of all, I'd like to. Again, we don't have enough information. I'd love to Know how old they are, Josh?

[Josh]

True.

[Ben]

Based on her, like, it would be. Regardless, you shouldn't be doing cocaine. It was cool at one point. Now too many people are dying. Okay, like this. There's a real fentanyl problem. You can pick other drugs that are a little bit less scary. And if you're going to be the person that tells me, oh, I test it before, that takes all the fun out of it. Like, what, you're going to go and test drugs? No, you can't do that.

[Josh]

Play Russian roulette with your life.

[Ben]

Yeah, you shouldn't play. You shouldn't. You shouldn't do cocaine. But moving on from that, if you're, like, 23 and you still have, like, a little time to grow up, okay, if you and your boyfriend right now are in your 30s and he's, like, going out with his friends, like, doing a bunch of coke, you should leave him. Like, Like. Or. Or you should look him in the face and say, like, I love you. You're a great guy, but when you do this, it makes me really uncomfortable. And the fact that I'm telling you it makes me uncomfortable and you won't stop means you probably have a problem. So you should probably figure out that problem. And clearly your friends, that specific friend group, are just like a bunch of enablers. So I don't know if you agree, Josh, but it completely depends to me how old they are. If he's still, like, early 20s and he still has time to, I guess, like, figure this stuff out, but as it gets later, that can just become, like, a nasty habit that she's not going to want to be around.

[Josh]

Yeah, coke is a real losery drug, and people that do coke are losers. But my caveat is, to Ben's point about age, we all, or most of us go through a loser phase. Yeah, sometimes we have to go through a loser phase, which your boyfriend is clearly in now, depending on there's some extraneous circumstance, age, where he is in his job, where he is with you. But if you guys are thinking about being, like, really serious, getting married, having kids, I just. I don't know. I've never met a guy who, like, does cocaine where I'm like, I want that guy to be my doctor, or, I want to get into business with that guy. I always go keep an eye on that guy. So you don't want to be that guy.

[Ben]

And to your point, almost every doctor and almost every businessman had a little coke phase.

[Josh]

Probably like.

[Ben]

Like it's not. Like, it's nothing to be Ashamed of. When you're young and experimenting and you can look back and say, oh, that was fun and stupid, but you have to be able to look back and say, oh, that was fun and stupid and I'm not doing it anymore.

[Josh]

Right.

[Ben]

Otherwise, yes, you. You cannot be trusted. So I think you're right. I also, I've never heard of a relationship that worked where one person was addicted to coke and the other hated coke. Like, usually, like, somebody who likes coke finds somebody who likes coke like that. Like, at least, like, you're like, simpatico in your love of coke. But if your girlfriend hates coke, I don't know, that seems like a deal breaker to me.

[Josh]

Unless you're my friend. My friend Sonia from the Ukraine, he used to go, yo, bro, you want to go get some Cokes? And I'd be like, I'm good, bro. He goes, cokes are sick, bro.

[Ben]

And then he goes, I'm sure that your friend's girlfriend also loved coke.

[Josh]

Dude, Sonia was the best. And he used to have a Russian pickup or a Ukrainian pickup line where he would go up to girls and be like, hey, do you like sour cream in your borscht? And they would be. And they would be like, yeah, of course. Like, there's no other way to eat it. And he'd be like, cool, me too. It was just like the way. And then he headbutted a kid and got indicted. And yeah, the kid was powerful. His dad was really rich and a lawyer. But Sonya's not doing great.

[Ben]

Oh, man, Sonya, Sonya.

[Josh]

Shout out the best. He was a kickboxer. Should we get to. Let's see. All right, let's do one more on mail.

[Ben]

Moron. Mail.

[Josh]

Well, this one, it's funny because it says her name, but then she says, this is my name, but say anonymous. So I will say anonymous.

[Ben]

Anyways, here's Judy.

[Judy]

Yeah, hi, good guys. Avid listener here. Thank you so much for always putting out premium content. So I'm a 27 year old girl in corporate America and the youngest by about 10 years. And I'm always mindful of that. There's a woman in the office next to me who is always clearing her throat, snorting, blowing her nose. When she blows her nose, it sounds like she's shredding paper and it drives me insane. I keep my earphones in at work. I shut my door when I'm allowed to, and I have a portable white noise machine. Is there anything else I can do about this or do I just have to get the fuck over it? Because she can't help it. And I get it. Sinuses are so annoying, but I can't listen to it any longer. I'm gonna go crazy. Okay, love you guys. Bye.

[Ben]

As somebody who forever cleared their throat, Josh, I don't know if you know this about me, but for a very long time, I was. There are two culprits. One, seasonal allergies. I'd start there, I'd go up to your neighbor, and I'd say, hey, I'd love to help you. I've noticed that you clear your throat a lot. Pretend that you did it, too. That's the way that you'll reason with her. Hey, I used to have the same thing. I used to. But then I started taking Zyrtec every day, and then I started taking Claritin every day. See if that helps, because, believe me, she doesn't want to clear her throat. It's not like a comfortable feeling to need to constantly clear your throat. She might have seasonal allergies. The second thing, if she. Maybe she's already taking those things. She clearly is having, like, an acid reflux problem. So maybe like, a. Is that Prilosec? What are the ones that no longer cause cancer? It's like, a bunch of them. Okay.

[Josh]

Pepsid, Nexus protein pump inhibitor.

[Ben]

Sure, that sounds great. I'd recommend those. And if they never work, the truth is, you really just have to deal with it. Maybe ask to switch desks. Can you go somewhere else? You said you're in corporate America. Like, I don't think. Unless it's just, like, an office of two. There's probably other people. So why don't you switch your spot? Yeah, I would. I would go to her concerned, like, hey, I used to have your problem. You don't anymore, thanks to Claritin.

[Josh]

Love that idea. I also think you can weaponize empathy, right? So what you do is you go up to her, really, and you just go, are you okay? Like, and. But, like, you have to go. So you have to make her embarrassed by how much you care and say, listen, I have found an ear, nose, and throat person for you. This is obviously signs of something. I mean, no. Are you okay? You must be miserable clearing your throat this much. I'm dying for you. And you offer resources. You make her good and embarrassed so that every time. And she'll go, no, no, no, I'm fine. Oh, no. God, thank you. No, no, I'm fine. I have a general practitioner. I go to the women's clinic. But you want her to say every time she wants to clear her throat to go, oh, my God, if I do, the cavalry is coming. And.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And that's so embarrassing. So I'm just gonna hold it in.

[Ben]

This is great advice. Yeah, I completely agree.

[Josh]

Shame her with lovely.

[Ben]

Agree. Shame her with love. And again, make up that you have the same problem. Become relatable.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Okay. She should relate to you.

[Josh]

So true. Should we get to a Woody? You nuts?

[Ben]

We should.

[Josh]

Or what? Are you nuts?

[Ben]

Not rebranding that. Sticking with that.

[Josh]

Yeah, that's a winner. Our Woody and Nuts moment of the week are gripes with people, places and things both big and small. Whatever's sticking in your crop, Ben. What do you got?

[Ben]

So I walked into the great Bloomingdale's the other day, and I've spoken before these. It's a very dated practice that you are just spritzing perfume all over the place. And I walk by, somebody says to me, free sample. No, I don't want your free sample. I don't want your perfume. It's not gonna make me smell feel good. It's too many fumes. I hate it. Okay. That said, this was not such a serious offense before I had Ruby. Josh. I go into Bloomingdale's, me and Claudia, we're going to take the beautiful Ruby for lunch at 40 carats. We're walking through.

[Josh]

Which Claudia hates. Right?

[Ben]

She loves. I hate you. I can't stand the food at 40 carrots. It's dreck. They need a rebrand even though their yogurt is fantastic.

[Josh]

But I love a department store cafe.

[Ben]

It's fantastic. I love a department store in general. I'm walking by John Varvatos for men's Spritz. What are you nuts? My son is literally four months old. Right there, right there. I'm telling you, the Varvatos cologne hit the stroller. Like how? Like, I don't know this for sure. I feel like a spritz of perfume could literally, like, send him into anaphylactic shock. Like, I think it can. I think it can. I'm pretty sure it can. We should have a new segment called Fact Check. Ben. I'm pretty sure that it can. And it's just a episode.

[Josh]

Ben. No, I'm kidding.

[Ben]

At a minimum, like, have some, I don't know, restraint. Not even restraint. Like, have. Have some. No, keep going. Have some.

[Josh]

Have some more. No. I don't know.

[Ben]

Use your brain. Okay? That's what I'm looking to say. Yeah. Don't spray your Varvatos cologne on my four year, four month old son. That's all You. What is. What is your. What are you nuts?

[Josh]

My. What are you nuts? Is. I'll save this for. For the next episode, but I recently did a surprise appearance at my friend's son's bar mitzvah. And the. The friend of mine, dear, dear friend. Great guy. He was a producer of the once hit show. Semi hit, really not a hit. It only went one season. Turner and Hooch on Disney, which I have so much love and affection for. And it was really a great show, but, you know, it got killed by. And a lot of streamers do this now that. Because these things are evergreen and they live on the streaming platforms forever, there's no way for the streamers to control how much people are gonna watch them in totality, right? So many streamers have done this, and Disney did this. Turner and Hooch Stamos show big shots, I think Mighty Ducks, they basically took, like, 30 or 40 original titles and a bunch of movies and said, we're taking it off the platform because they have to pay residuals every time people watch it, right? So they're like, we'd rather not have to pay residuals on these. We'd rather not. We can take it as a tax loss if we take them off the streaming platform. But the problem is, that's fine. But there's nowhere to find it. It's gone. It has evaporated. The showturner and Hooch does not exist in any world ever anymore.

[Ben]

First of all, ouch. Yeah, what the hell?

[Josh]

But it's one of, like, literally hundreds at every. You know, it's like, famously, HBO did this where they made Batgirl and then they just killed it. $100 million movie. Because they rather take the tax loss then take the chance of putting it out, and maybe it's not super successful. So my answer is, what do you nuts do you, babe, like, take it off the streaming platform but make it available to buy? Like, can't we get it? I want to show my kids in a couple of years it was a cute show.

[Ben]

What's the reason not to make it available to buy? That doesn't hurt them. Why can't they put it for purchase?

[Josh]

I don't know. They want to, like, because then they have to, like, pay residuals and keep.

[Ben]

Track of that, but they're making money like that. I don't. Who cares? I'm in. Turner and Hooch. It's a little back. It was a cute show, but I think it's meshuggah.

[Josh]

I just don't like that it's been put in witness protection.

[Ben]

Yeah, totally. Trying to think what else has been. We'll save that for Patreon. There are a lot of shows. Honestly, Cosby.

[Josh]

Yeah, totally.

[Ben]

You know what else is Meshuggah? Not giving this episode for five stars, that's what. Are you nuts? Listen to us. Wherever you get your podcast, watch us on YouTube, share our clips Instagram and TikTok Mondays and Thursdays, folks. We will see next time.

[Olivia]

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