278: Butts II: The Rebuttal Electric Buttaloo

Summary

Good Job, Brain! Episode 278: Butts II – The Rebuttal Electric Buttaloo

Release Date: November 12, 2024
Panel: Karen (Host), Colin, Chris

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Overview

This episode is a revival and sequel to Good Job, Brain's original "Butts" episode from 2014 (“Bootylicious” Ep124). The crew—Karen, Colin, and Chris—dive back into the world of butts in trivia, science, language, history, and pop culture. The show opens with some cryptic crossword fun, a classic Trivial Pursuit segment, and then launches into new butt-focused trivia, quizzes, and discussion about everything from evolutionary biology to misunderstood art cherubs. True to Good Job, Brain! tradition, it’s a mix of quirky facts, brain-stumping puzzles, laughter, and team banter.

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Key Segments and Insights

1. Cryptic Crossword Warm-Up (00:47–10:07)

• Listener-inspired cryptic crossword clues lead off the show, with Chris challenging Karen and Colin in a collaborative setting.

  • Emphasis on how solving together makes tough clues less intimidating.

• Sample Clues & Solutions:

  • Clue: “Hot Broadway show, like a candle?” (6)
    Answer: “Wicked” (as in the musical; a candle is “wicked”) [05:05]
  • Clue: “Before Monday, a card game, mostly, was a big Nintendo franchise.” (7)
    Answer: “Pokemon” (poker, mostly = poke + Mon for Monday) [08:08]

• Memorable Quote:

  • Chris (on cryptics): “You guys solved it live. That was seriously people. There was no special editing...Such a masterclass in how to approach these.” [01:35]
  • Colin: “That's our number one rule in pub quiz—don't censor yourself, brainstorm. You never know what it's going to spark in the other person.” [02:03]

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2. Trivial Pursuit Segment (10:10–17:00)

• Quick-fire trivia rounds using classic Trivial Pursuit cards—focusing on the “Silver Screen” and “Entertainment” categories.
• Questions cover film history, celebrity gossip, TV, and games (e.g., “What author wrote In Cold Blood?” Answer: Truman Capote [16:43]).
• Light banter on how certain trivia feels dated (“the Baby Boomer specials”).
• Demonstrates the panel’s depth of knowledge and group dynamic.

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3. Origin Story for “Butts II” (17:01–19:50)

• Backstory: Topic was suggested by Chris; the team realized they already did a “butts” episode a decade ago. They checked archives and decided to do a sequel, reasoning, “Is there enough material out there to support a sequel to the Butts episode? And I think we have determined that, yes, there definitely is.” [18:30]
• “Turn the other cheek,” “Two cheeks, too furious”—Signature GJB puns abound.

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4. The Marvel of the Sea Walnut: The Transient Anus (19:51–29:11)

• Chris presents an incredible marine biology story:

  • The sea walnut, or “warty comb jelly” (Mnemiopsis leidyi).
  • Most jellyfish have one opening for eating and excreting, but sea walnuts have a “through gut”—mouth and transient anus.
  • Discoveries (2019): Marine biologist Sidney Tam (at Woods Hole, MA) observed that the sea walnut’s anus appears only when needed and disappears after use—“a transient anus.” [24:08]
  • Adults create a new anus every hour; larvae every 10 minutes. [26:00]
  • “They can grow a butthole anywhere they want, and it only exists for as long as they need it to.” —Chris [25:34]

• Why is this important?

  • Suggests how animals transitioned evolutionarily from a single opening to a mouth-anus system.
  • “We may have evolved a permanent butthole, but started out as just creating one whenever the feeling struck.” —Chris [28:34]
  • The sea walnut can potentially de-age itself, echoing the immortal jellyfish.

Memorable Quotes:

• Karen: “It’s like Shawshank Redemption. Digging its way out.” [27:06]
• Colin: "It's truly amazing that we as a species can be this interested in other species." [26:29]

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5. The Pain-in-the-Butt Quiz (Write-Down Game, 32:13–47:20)

Karen’s cleverly constructed quiz: Each trivia question contains a hidden synonym for “butt” embedded in the text (e.g., "tush", "haunch", "bottom", "moon", "rump", "pratt", "backside").

• Sample Questions/Answers:
  • Q: True or false—The human fetus has a tail in early development?
    A: False. (Answer hinges on definition of embryo vs. fetus—“tush” hidden in “fetus has”) [34:16]
  • Q: The leprechaun was once depicted sitting on what?
    A: Mushroom/toadstool (“haunch” in “leprechaun chasing”) [36:33]
  • Q: What company built a robot to repeatedly sit to test their products?
    A: Samsung (testing phone durability)—“bottom” in “robot to mimic”—the Samsung robot “juicy butt” wears jeans [38:31]
  • Q: What marks the highest rank in sumo, achieved by only 73 individuals?
    A: Yokozuna (“moon” in “yokozuna”) [39:46]
  • Q: Umpires’ blue pants earned them what moniker?
    A: “Blue” (with “rump” in “moniker umpire”) [42:12]
  • Q: Samoan National Dish from turkey tails—what word is hidden?
    A: “pratt” (flip, flop, ratifying) [44:24]
  • Extra: Movie where identical twin Bales are revealed?
    A: The Prestige (“backside”) [47:40]

Commentary:

• Karen: “This quiz was a pain in the butt to write…embedding synonyms, and then making the answer butt-related—really, really hard for me.” [36:37]
• Frequent laughter as panelists hunt for hidden words in each question.

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6. Eggcorn Spotlight: “16th Chapel” (48:00–53:37)

• Colin introduces misunderstanding:
  • Many laypeople call the Sistine Chapel the “16th Chapel.”
  • “If you call it the 16th Chapel in your paper, I will dock you points for that.” —Colin’s dry art history professor [50:45]
  • Named for Pope Sixtus IV—hence, Sistine, not 16th. [51:19]
  • Classic Western art; Michelangelo’s ceiling—famous for its religious nudity, including myriad butts.

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7. Cherubs, Cupids, and Putti: Art Butt Taxonomy (53:37–59:06)

• Colin explains the taxonomy of “naked babies” in Western art:
  • Winged, chubby child figures are Putti (plural of Italian puto, “boy”).
  • Putti ≠ Cupids (cupids have bows/arrows, amorous scenes).
  • Putti ≠ Cherubs (cherubs are religious scenes, “angelic presence”).
  • “The umbrella term is putti…You can correct someone at pub quiz!”
  • Famous image: the two bored-looking cherubs at the bottom of Raphael’s “Sistine Madonna”. [54:52]

Quote:

• Karen: “There’s them in cartoons too…blowing horns, there’s so many statues of them. I had no idea. I just thought they were cherubs.” [54:25]

• Shout-out:

  • Meg Butler’s witty Getty Foundation article: “What do you call those tiny winged babies”

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Chris (cryptics, teamwork): “There was no special editing…such a masterclass in how to approach these.” [01:35]
• Colin (on brainstorming): “Don't censor yourself, brainstorm. You never know what it's going to spark in the other person on your team.” [02:03]
• Chris (transient anus): “They can grow a butthole anywhere they want, and it only exists for as long as they need it to.” [25:34]
• Karen (on the quiz): “This quiz was a pain in the butt…embedding synonyms, and then making the answer butt-related—really, really hard for me.” [36:37]
• Colin (Sistine Chapel eggcorn): “If you call it the 16th Chapel in your paper, I will dock you points for that.” [50:45]
• Karen (art putti): “There’s them in cartoons too… I just thought they were cherubs.” [54:25]

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Episode Structure & Flow

• Lighthearted cold open, team introductions [00:00]
• Cryptic crossword segment [00:47]
• Trivial Pursuit round [10:10]
• Buttology—Why revisit butts? [17:01]
• The science of sea walnut butts [19:51]
• Ad break [29:41]
• Pain-in-the-Butt quiz [32:13]
• Eggcorn watch—Sistine/16th Chapel [48:00]
• Cherubs, cupids, and putti in art [53:37]
• Closing words and sign-off [59:06]

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For the Trivia Nerds

• Each major topic turns into a micro-lesson—for example, the origins of “blue” for baseball umpires, the evolutionary marvel of animal anatomy, and the fine distinctions of winged babies in religious art.
• Embedded word puzzles combine classic pub quiz playfulness with deep trivia research.
• Listeners leave equipped with fun facts and the context to use them.

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Signature Tone

• Whimsical, nerdy, and inclusive humor (“Two cheeks, too furious.”)
• “Pain in the butt” is both motif and meta-commentary.
• Panels support and “yes and” one another—friendly ribbing, shared laughs, genuine admiration for deep trivia.

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Takeaways

Whether you’re pub quizzing, crossword-solving, or wandering a renaissance gallery, you can now school your friends on everything from transient animal anuses to the true identity of those winged infant sculptures. Another offbeat, brain-nourishing episode delivered with a wink and a giggle.

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Transcript

[A]

You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast. Hello, peppy and preppy, peachy and perceptive party pals and palominos. Welcome to Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show and offbeat trivia podcast. Today's show is 278 and of course I'm your humble host, Karen. And we are your jumping jellyfish Jazzercising in a jam packed Jacuzzi.

[B]

I am Colin.

[C]

And I'm Chris.

[B]

The Jacuzzi invented right here in Berkeley, California.

[A]

Berkeley, California.

[C]

Okay. So I have got inspired by, I think really the community's reaction to something happened earlier this season, which is that, Karen, you shared some cryptic crossword clues given to us by listener Amy.

[A]

Yeah. From abcx. Yeah.

[C]

And there was good reaction in the, in the Good Job Brain Lobe Trotters Facebook group. People seem to like or say they like the cryptic clues. So I said okay, great. I'm going to write a couple more for everybody.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Because we all seem to like.

[B]

Nice.

[C]

You and Colin.

[A]

You know why people like it? Well, I mean, I don't know people. You know why I liked it?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Because. Because we're doing this as a group. I think when it's myself and I'm just reading the words, I'm like, oh boy, I don't know where to go. You know, I don't know where to go with this. It's so scary. But then I think when we're bouncing off from one another it makes it less scary. Yeah, I mean you guys solved it live. That was seriously people. There was like no special editing. It's like you guys did it in the same amount of time that you heard. And the way that you two work together really was such a, like kind of masterclass in how to approach these.

[B]

And it was just, you know, back and forth.

[A]

You, you were underestimating yourself. You're like, oh man, I'm just going to. You saw a lot of them.

[B]

Yeah, I, I was, I was downplaying it. Those were fun. Those really were fun. And I totally agree. Like, I mean it's like that's part of the fun of just any kind of trivia and pub quiz. Like that's our number one rule, you know, is don't censor yourself. Brainstorm. Because you never know what it's going to spark in the other person on your team.

[A]

All right, well I can't wait because I.

[C]

So grab a. Yeah. Get a writing implement so you guys can write these down for yourselves. Cryptic crossword clues. American cryptic crossword clues are split into a Straight definition. A standard definition of. Of. Of the word plus a wordplay definition. But they're jammed together, so you don't actually know where the straight definition starts. Starts. And where the word play definition.

[A]

I like how Colin framed it where he's looking for the trigger word. What is the trigger? What is the word?

[B]

Play signal.

[C]

So here's. Here is your first one if you're ready to write these down.

[A]

Wow. Original.

[C]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

[B]

Hang on, let me get a better pen. I'm gonna get a quiet pen.

[A]

It's like a. Like a rubber chicken pen, turns out.

[B]

Yes. Why does it have a horn on it?

[A]

Why is it a move with Zayla?

[C]

Well, the nice part about doing these like this is that this affords us an opportunity to learn a little bit more about how cryptics work also, you know, so we can talk about, like, well, what is the. What is the particular kind of wordplay going on here as well?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Okay. So. All right, are we ready?

[B]

Yeah, let's do it.

[C]

Write it down. Okay, first. First clue. Hot Broadway show, like a candle. That's got a question mark at the end of it.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Hot Broadway show, like a candle, question mark at the end.

[A]

Oh, I know.

[C]

Enumeration is six.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. So let's talk it out, though. So. So, like.

[A]

Oh, sorry. Six letters.

[C]

Six letters. Six letters.

[A]

What? I thought it was.

[B]

Okay, okay, so. Hot Broadway show, like a candle. So. So I'm taking, like, maybe is like. Sounds like. Yeah, exactly. A homophone or something like that. Okay.

[C]

There is something that you need to know. So when you have a question mark. When you have a question mark that always indicates that there is a play on words. There is a play on words or a punny sort of thing. Okay.

[B]

All right.

[C]

Particular definition. So it's not a. It's not a homophone.

[B]

Okay, thank you.

[C]

Indicators are typically sounds. Sounds like. Or. Yeah.

[B]

Okay, this is helpful. Hot Broadway show, like a candle. Candles are bright. They're. They're. They're heat. They're wax. There's light. The. They melt flame.

[A]

At first I was like, oh, flame, fame.

[B]

But then it was, like, burning.

[A]

You know what? Or I can work backwards.

[B]

Is.

[A]

I think.

[C]

How do you. You could. You know, honestly, I will sometimes solve things by working backwards.

[B]

Oh. Oh, I get it. I get it. I get it. It's a play. It's wicked. Versus a candle.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The properties, like, just visually, like, I was trying to, like, picture the words in my mind. Yeah, right.

[C]

And of course, I had. I could have had Broadway smash. I could have had Broadway smash hit or something like that. But what you're trying to do is you're trying to make it sound like by using Hot and Candle. You know what I mean? You're trying to make it sound like something that could be, you know.

[B]

That's good. It's good. It's the second level. Right. Because like your, your brain, because we're human, goes to the immediate properties of a candle and then. But no, it's literally. How is a candle constructed? Not yet. That's good.

[A]

Well, I mean, I think if you said like something where Broadway smash, I think that is kind of a, A red herring or some sort of bad clue. Because Smash does have a, A trigger kind of meaning of like anagram or like a physical tr. It kind of puts us in a.

[B]

In a danger zone.

[C]

Yeah. So either way, this was a better way to do it. Yeah. Okay, here's your second one. Get ready to write this down.

[B]

Again.

[C]

Before Monday, comma, a card game, comma, mostly comma, was a big Nintendo franchise. I'll read it again. Before Monday, comma, a card game, comma, mostly comma, was a big Nintendo franchise. The enumeration is seven.

[B]

Okay. Wow. Okay, so there's there's some like weekend chopping up.

[A]

Chopping up words.

[B]

Uhhuh. Uhhuh. Sun. Sunday sat. Sun. Weekend. A card game. Now, Nintendo made card games. Is Chris going for the deep cut reference there or is it just purely mostly. And what's up with all the comments?

[A]

I think it's a seven letter word and I think, I think it's dividing and chunking them, stringing them letters by letters.

[B]

So like it was a big Nintendo frame. Let's name some big Nintendo franchises and see if that jogs something loose. I mean, obviously. Or is he. Or is he taking us down the other path with like, before they were making video games?

[A]

Well, I mean, I'm saying Hanafuda is not.

[B]

Oh, right, right, right, right. Card games. Name of a card game or. Oh, okay. So like, I bet it's like most of the word or most of the letters from the name of a card game. Right.

[A]

It's like Pokemon.

[B]

There we go. There we go. Before Monday. Part of poker. Part of poker. Mostly. Yes. Excellent.

[C]

So what you're working on here is there's two things. There's an abbreviation which is substituting mon for Monday. And mostly mostly is a. Is a. Is a clue word.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

For a curtailment.

[B]

Curtailment, which is when I love.

[C]

And you remove just the last letter. So mostly. Yeah.

[B]

Goddess okay, the trigger words again. Yeah, it was.

[A]

I have to credit it all to you because you're like, oh, mostly like most of the letters. And that's where I was like, you got it.

[C]

You absolutely got it. Yeah.

[B]

That's great. That's great teamwork.

[C]

All right. Hey, nice work on those cryptics. Well done.

[B]

And well done, Chris. And I know you love writing them, so it's not a chore for you, but that's great. Yeah.

[C]

My favorite was when Tyler and I did the one. I haven't really written a lot of them, but Tyler and I made that cryptic crosswords in the Good Job Brain book. And one of the words that he put in the crossword was trapeze. And the clue I remember writing it was rap with easy E. Oddly follows start of the wire. And it was rap. Or just R. A P with easy E. Oddly is just the odd letters out of easy E. So it's E and then Z and then E follows start of the. So it follows T. And so you put the D. And then you follow it with rap and easy E. And then the straight definition is just wire.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

That was. I was. I was very proud of that one. Yes.

[B]

Wow. Layers.

[A]

Normal crossword is, like, synonym. You're like, okay, what could it be? You have to get out of that mode and you have to, like, do some, like, surgery. I think that's what it's like. To me, that's like, weird mental block because, look, I have to, like, do surgery to not just find.

[B]

I like that synonym. That's a good way of looking at it.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

But, Karen, I mean, your. Your idea of, like, let me just write down big Nintendo franchises and see if anything, you know, works here. But you also did fall. I also tried to set the trap here as well, because the card game, which got you thinking about Nintendo's card games, right?

[B]

That's great.

[A]

I know too much.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I know too much.

[C]

Woo.

[A]

Thank you. All right, without further ado, let's jump straight in to our first general trivia segment. Pop quiz, Hot shot. And here I have two random Trivial Pursuit cards. I got a little bit of a treat. I got Entertainment singles, and, ah, our favorite silver screen.

[B]

Ah, oh, yes, the Baby Boomer specials.

[A]

Yes, let's do. Let's do silver screen first. Here we go. Blue wedge. What war was the background to the 1956 William Wyler film Friendly Persuasion?

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Okay, go for it.

[A]

How long ago was that?

[C]

What, 1956 or quite a while ago, the Spanish American war.

[A]

Colin, take a guess.

[B]

Civil War.

[A]

It is the Civil war.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[B]

I was getting war.

[C]

I was like, it's not World War II. Because that's like. Yeah, you know.

[B]

Too soon.

[A]

Too soon, guys.

[C]

Too soon.

[A]

Pink wedge. What 1968 disaster movie had a geographically incorrect title? Oh, oh, I know. Colin knows this one.

[B]

Is this the title? Is it Krakatoa? West of Java.

[A]

East of Java.

[B]

East of Java. Dang it.

[A]

I was right.

[B]

Incorrect. East of Java. I was going the wrong. That's right. Krakatoa, east of Java.

[A]

Colin famously had a segment, I believe, in our sound episode about the loudest sound in history of the world.

[B]

Recorded history. That's right. Kill you on the spot.

[A]

Here we go. Yellow wedge. What mystery man did actress Jean Peters secretly marry in 1957?

[B]

Okay, is mystery. Is mystery in quotes there or italics? Or.

[A]

I would just say this man is like kind of miss.

[B]

Known for Mr. No.

[A]

Not like Hitchcock. It's like this person is just an eccentric, mysterious person.

[C]

Oh, okay. I can't even hazard a guess.

[A]

Colin.

[B]

Howard Hughes.

[A]

It is Howard.

[C]

Oh. Oh, there you go.

[B]

All right. You helped kind of string me along to that one. Thank you.

[A]

Very good. Purple wedge. Lavender wedge. What was the religious calling of Gary Cooper in Friendly Persuasion?

[B]

Love when they double up.

[C]

The double dip was the religious calling of Gary Cooper in Friendly Persuasion.

[A]

Colin.

[B]

He was Catholic.

[A]

He was Quaker.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Likes oatmeal. You know, Greenwich. Who directed Frank Sinatra in None but the Brave? Who directed Frank Sinatra in oh, my God? None but the Brave? Chris.

[C]

Sergio Leone.

[A]

It is Frank Sinatra.

[B]

Come on now. Awfully, perilously close to a trick question.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here we go.

[A]

Last question on silver screen. Card. Orange wedge. Who played detective Tom Paulhouse in the Maltese Falcon? Colin.

[B]

Humphrey Bogart.

[A]

Incorrect. I think this is the other one because that's.

[B]

Oh, yeah, the main guy.

[A]

Sam Spade.

[B]

You are correct.

[A]

It is a very old timey name. It is Ward Bond.

[C]

Ward. Ward Bond. Ward is his Bond.

[B]

You beat me too, Chris. Yeah.

[A]

All right. Cleanse the palate. Eat the. Eat the pickled ginger. Here we go. Entertainment. Singles. Blue. Wet for TV. What? Scarecrow and Mrs. King star, played Luke McCann in the TV Western how the West Was Won.

[B]

Oh, man. Who was in that show?

[C]

I know this is you. I. I never. I never saw it.

[B]

Drive me.

[A]

I'll read again. What? Scarecrow and Mrs. King Star.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That was a movie or show.

[B]

It was a TV show.

[A]

Played Luke McCann in the TV Western, how the West Was Won.

[B]

Oh, my God. This is going to kill me.

[A]

Sorry if I mispronounced that, like, I have problems with, you know, Vince McMahon. I don't understand how that spelling of words equals McMahon. You know, I mean, it's like. It's like, man, I'll tell you what. I know this name, and I only know it from. From.

[B]

No, he was. He was Babylon 5. He was. Oh, okay.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Oh, man. Who was it? I'm gonna be so Antron.

[A]

It is Bruce Box. Lightning Box Lightner.

[B]

Oh, man. Yeah.

[A]

Pink wedge for music. What funny girl and Yentle star has. Has achieved number one albums in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and the 90s?

[C]

Chris Coleridge, Barbra Streisand.

[A]

Let's see. Yellow Edge for mo. Movies. What movie based on the life of cerebral palsy victim Christy Brown won Daniel Day Lewis an Oscar for Best Actor?

[B]

Colin, that is my left foot.

[A]

Correct. My left foot. Purple wedge games. How many balls are used in a regular game of pocket billiards?

[C]

Oh, Chris, wait. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 16, 17, 18, 19. Come on, how many?

[B]

Pick a number.

[C]

Well, fine, you do it then. I can't think.

[B]

You were right. You were right.

[A]

You were right.

[B]

16. Yeah, 16. 1 through 50, 1 through 15.

[A]

And the good job. Moving on. Green wedge for books. What author wrote the nonfiction novel In Cold Blood? Colin.

[B]

That is Truman Capote.

[A]

Truman Capote. And last question on this card. Wild Card Orange. What master of suspense never won an Oscar for directing? Colin?

[B]

Must be Alfred Hitchcock.

[A]

Good job, Brains. All right, Colin, it's going to be an interesting show today because you picked the topic. Please, please tell us what.

[B]

I'm looking forward to this.

[A]

Yeah. What you've chosen.

[B]

Well, we've chosen it. And I actually, to be honest here, I got to give credit to our own Chris Kohler here for originally suggesting this one. We had our group chat going here, brainstorming some topics for the next three or four episodes, and. And Chris said, hey, how about butts? Just butts. You know, for Good Job Brain. We haven't. Haven't done a show on butts or the. But I was like, yeah, that seems really appropriate. I said, you know, I even said back. I'm like, you know, honestly, Honestly, it's. It's amazing. It took us this long to do a show on. On butts. And so penciled. Penciled that right in. And then. And then somewhere in the back of my brain is like, maybe you should check the archives, Colin. Maybe you should go and look on the Good Job Brain archives. And I did, Dear Listener. And I'm glad I did because I realized that we have in fact done a show before on Butts, and it shouldn't surprise me that we did. So we had already agreed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it was great. That was where, Chris, you memorably told us about the Callipygian Venus.

[C]

Yes. Yep.

[B]

Callipygian, the butt sculpture.

[A]

That episode was 124. The title was Bootylicious.

[C]

The year was 2014. So. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's right. How could I forget? Oh, you know how I could forget it? This was 10 years ago.

[B]

It was 10.

[C]

And it was like an entire lifetime ago. My child lived his whole life since we did that episode. So we still had to ask the question, is there enough material out there to support a sequel to the Butts episode? And I think we have determined that, yes, there definitely is. So get ready. Buckle up. Turn the other cheek. What is he. What are we doing this episode? Butts Part 2. The rebuttal.

[A]

The buttoning.

[B]

Two cheeks. Too furious.

[A]

Two cheeks.

[C]

No.

[B]

It doesn't. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So in that previous episode124 from 10 years ago, we. Yes, we talked about. Oh, the. The butt sculpture. We had origins of butt words. And we also have. I looked into when you ensure body parts, especially because the JLO made the news about ensuring her. Her butt. What does it mean when you ensure a body part? Or like vocal cords, your voice and all that? Like, what actually happens? So, yes, 10 years ago, episode 124.

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So I would like to begin by talking about one of the beautiful creatures of God that exists on this earth. It is called the Sea Walnut.

[A]

Oh, that doesn't sound very beautiful, Shrively.

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It also goes by the name of the Warty Comb Jelly.

[B]

Ah, yes, Beautiful, beautiful name.

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So much worse. It's like two names, neither of them. Hey, we're going to call you the Sea Walnut. It's like, is there another option? I was like, yeah, we can go. The Warty Comb jelly. I'll go with sea walnut. But I think, yeah. So what is the sea walnut or the warty comb jelly? And why is it called these things? So it's a jelly. It is a marine invertebrate. Right. It's a floppy marine creature. It's similar to a jellyfish, but it's not a jellyfish. Oh, they're apparently they're very common off the east coast of north and South America. There's a lot of them. In Chesapeake Bay, for example, they're called a sea walnut because they're about 4 inches long. They're approximately shaped like the insides of a walnut. Like a walnut meat, basically, is what.

[B]

It kind of ripply and wavy.

[A]

Like a brainy thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like with lobes and stuff like that. And so it also has cilia, you know, those hair, like sort of, you know, appendages. But it has them in very neat rows, all kind of down its body.

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And.

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And so they look like a comb, hence the comb in the warty comb jelly. And apparently these things are really beautiful in the right light because the individual cilia will reflect the light in different ways. And so you see it swimming around. Looks like rainbow patterns kind of running up and down the.

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I was imagining like a brown craggly thing.

[C]

No, like transparent and like reflective of the light in, like rainbowy patterns. Yeah. Very beautiful.

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Yeah.

[C]

Now, this sea walnut has multiple biological features that I would say you or I would kill for. First of all, the sea walnuts are hermaphroditic and can fertilize themselves.

[A]

So convenient.

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So if you. If you look on the app store, you will find zero sea walnut dating apps. They don't need. They don't eat it.

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Not either.

[C]

One don't gotta deal with any of that stuff. They can male and female reproductive organs fertilize themselves. Then there's the biological feature that is more pertinent to the topic of this show, why we're talking about this. Now let's go back to the jellyfish, which is the sea. Walden is not a jellyfish. Go back to the jellyfish, though. Jellyfish do not per se, have buttholes. They have one opening, and the food goes into that opening and it gets processed. And then it comes out that opening.

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That'S in and out.

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Yeah, it's in and out. In and out. Hole goes in, gets processed, comes out. Right, But. But comb jellies in general, we're just talking about the warty comb jelly, but there's a whole family of different comb jellies. They do have buttholes. They have what is known biologically as a through gut.

[A]

Whoa.

[C]

Food goes in the mouth at one end, goes through the system, and comes out the anus. Great, great. And they're transparent. So you can watch it all happen. As I have said, our previous butts episode was in 2014. At that time, what I am about to share with you, we could not have discussed this.

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Incredible.

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Was discovered in 2019. I named Sydney Tam. He is a professor at the Marine Biological Laboratory, which is located in. I am not making this name up. Woods Hole, Massachusetts. He was watching sea walnuts poop as part of his job and the Sea walnut pooped, and he saw the poop come out its butt. And then he went back and looked again at the same sea walnut. The butthole was gone.

[B]

What?

[A]

What?

[C]

The butt, Encyclopedia Brown. In the case of the missing butthole, the butthole is gone. He's looking at this thing on a microscope. There's no butthole anymore. What happened to the butthole? He discovers that what is happening is the sea walnut takes in the food through its mouth. Its gut fills up with waste, and it fills up with waste, and it expands and it starts moving towards the inner wall of the skin, the epidermis, and the cells of the gut. This is a very cellularly sort of simplistic, you know, kind of. Kind of creature here.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

The cell wall of the gut makes contact with the cell wall of the epidermis, the skin, and they fuse and they create an anus. And the sea walnut poops. And then the anus closes up and goes away.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

The gut moves away from the skin and the butthole is gone.

[B]

It's an ad hoc butthole.

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It is an ad hoc butthole. Is one. One way to scientifically describe it. The other way is the. Is what is delightfully known as. This is scientifically known as a transient anus.

[B]

Truly fantastic.

[A]

Probably isn't always in the same place.

[C]

No, exactly. They can grow a butthole anywhere they want, and it only exists for as long as they need it to.

[B]

Wow.

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Magic. What I wouldn't give to. So. And this again, this was discovered in 2019. And so far, the warty comb jelly, or the sea walnut, is the only known creature with a transient anus.

[B]

Amazing.

[C]

So this happens, by the way, in an adult sea walnut. It happens about every once an hour, basically. Wow. They create a new butthole every hour on the hour. Sea walnut larvae apparently are creating a new anus every 10 minutes.

[A]

Cause they're growing.

[B]

Oh, I can't create an an every 10 minutes anymore. I'm getting. I'm getting too old for that, right?

[C]

Yeah. In college. Yeah, I'm getting old. I'm like two weeks old. I think I'll just create a new anus every, what, like. Like hour?

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It's truly amazing, like, just. Just that we as a species can be this interested in other species. You know what I mean? Like, this is. This is.

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This is his life, Sidney Tam. This is what he does. They asked him, like, do you know of any other marine life, you know, with a. With a transient anus? Said, no, I haven't looked.

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He's just.

[C]

He's just Concentrating on sea. Sea walnuts, apparently. Karen, what's your question? Maybe I can answer this for you.

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The mouth stays in the same spot.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Interesting.

[C]

Yeah, I guess because the mouth is like, constantly taking in food. I don't know.

[A]

I see.

[C]

But then it's like building it all up. It's getting ready.

[A]

It's like Shawshank Redemption. Yeah. It's like digging its way out.

[C]

The other crazy thing that I was reading about the sea walnut is that the current studies suggest that when it is in danger, it can actually age backwards. It can reverse age back to an earlier stage.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[C]

Of its life. Now scientists are kind of going back and forth a little bit on whether or not this. That's what's really happening. There is something known as, like the immortal jellyfish that can reverse age. They're suggesting the sea walnut could do the same thing. So the sea walnut, I mean, you look at the sea walnut, it's like 4 inches big and transparent and floating in the water. If you take it out of the water, by the way it falls. It falls apart. So the sea walnut. The sea walnut needs to check itself because the sea walnut is like, okay, I can literally. I can fertilize myself once I'm mature in two weeks, I can just create my own butthole wherever I want. And also, I can turn into a baby if necessary. But at the same time, if you take one and lift it out of the water, it just.

[A]

Just falls apart.

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It's just done. So that now the crazy. Now the thing is, the professor, Sidney Tam, he believes that this may be how we. We of the B hole having, you know, section of life as opposed to the jellyfishes out their mouth. You know, this may be how we all evolved buttholes.

[A]

The missing link.

[C]

The missing. The missing link. The missing link of. Of how do you get from one hole that sort of takes in and leaves to the through gut of. It starts here and ends here. And it's like we may have evolved a permanent butthole, but started out as just sort of just creating one wherever, whenever the. You know, the feeling. Sometimes you feel like a. But sometimes you don't kind of a situation. And anyway, that is how. Thanks to this episode. Good job. Ray learned all about the. The beauty and the miracle of the. Of the transient anus.

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Transient anus.

[C]

I don't feel like pooping out my mouth today, is there? Can I come up with some kind of a solution?

[A]

There's gotta be a better way.

[B]

I don't want to commit all the.

[C]

Way like, see the first guy doing it? What are you doing?

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[C]

I came up with like. You invented that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Just, you know, wherever the mood strikes me. Over here one day, over there the other day. Yeah, yeah.

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You're listening to Good Job Brain. Smooth Puzzles, Smart trivia. Good Job Brain.

[A]

Hey, we're back. It's Putts two.

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Guys, it's two butts. It's butts two.

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The electric Butaloo. Well, I got a quiz for all y'.

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All.

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It's gonna be a write down quiz and I've titled it Colin. Colin titles as quizzes. Now we all title our quizzes. I've titled it Pain in the butt. Yes, Pain in the butt. Because that's what making this quiz was. Here I have a couple of trivia questions that are. But adjacent in each question, there is a hidden but synonym in the construction of the question itself. And so your job is to give me the answer. And also the hidden butt, the pain in the butt. And by hidden I mean embedded. It is maybe traveling between words, maybe the end of this word and beginning of this word. So that's what I mean by hidden. Feel free to write down the questions as I'm reading them or not. To give yourself a challenge, I'll read each question twice. Okay, how's that? All right, here we go. Question number one. True or false? The human fetus has a tail in the early stages. True or false? The human fetus has a tail in the early stages.

[C]

Okay, okay, I got it, I got it, I got it.

[B]

Okay, okay.

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The hidden word is not tail because it's not very hidden. Answers up. Here we go. Chris has put true and the secret word is tush. And Colin has put true in the secret word. He found it. You both found it. It is tush. Fetus has so the T u s and fetus and then the H in has. The answer is false.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

So we've probably read that humans in the early stages actually have like a little tail. It is true. But it's the human embryo that has a tail, not the fetus. And you might, you might ask, what's the difference? When is it an embryo? When is it a fetus? Eight weeks is the cutoff point. So starting from fertilization to eight weeks, that's an embryo. Eight weeks and on that is a fetus. Right. So it is a bit of a trick question. The human embryo has a tail.

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Right? Okay.

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And it's extremely, extremely, extremely rare. But it happens. Someone would be born with a stigil tail. Super, super rare, does not contain any bone or cartilage or like spinal cord. It's usually muscle, connective tissue, maybe some nerves. All right, next question. Answer the question. Find the hidden. But word number two. Before the American imagery of the leprechaun chasing after rainbows and gold, the leprechaun was more commonly depicted sitting on what? My second time reading before the American imagery of the leprechaun chasing after rainbows and gold, the leprechaun was more commonly depicted sitting on what?

[C]

All right, I got it. I mean, I have the. I have the hidden word, but I mean, I also have a guess.

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Take a guess. Take a guess. This is a very common imagery of the leprechaun, but not in America. Here we go. Answers up. Chris has put.

[C]

Oh, I think you're right. Yeah, yeah. I put a stool.

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Colin has put the leprechaun sits on a mushroom slash toad stool. You're both correct. I'm gonna give it to you, Chris. I know you mean like a chair stool, but we'll say. Okay, we'll say mushroom like, you know, a classic Mario red capped toadstool.

[C]

Okay, okay.

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Mushroom. And it's. They. They sell art like it. It's in fairy tale books or it's candle holders and vases and stuff with folksy art and the hidden word. Chris, you put haunch.

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Good, good. Leprechaun chasing. Nice.

[A]

Yes. Hunch, hunch. Let me just. Let me just say this quiz was a pain in the butt. I thought it was like a kind of clever idea until I started doing it. So not only do I have to embed a synonym into the question, then I have to find a trivia nugget, and then I have to make the question be about butts. Do you know what I mean? It's that constraint that really. It has to be about butt related things. That kind of was really, really hard for me. Oh, man, it took me a long time. All right, here we go. Next Question number three. What company built a robot to mimic sitting repeatedly to test the durability of their products? Second time. What company built a robot to mimic sitting repeatedly to test the durability of their products? This was a couple years ago. It's kind of a viral news bit because someone went to testing facility, like a lab and saw this very special robot. What? Are we stuck on the.

[C]

The hidden word?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, same. Oh, okay, I got it.

[C]

Oh, you got it.

[A]

All right, answers up. What company. Chris put Ikea and Colin put Levi's jeans. Oh, I'm sorry, both of you are incorrect. It is Samsung. Samsung built a juicy butt robot wearing. Wearing jeans to test their phones. To test their phones. Because you put the phones in the back pocket.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And so they built this special machine to qa.

[B]

Hilarious.

[A]

There's a robot, but it's just the butt. And it just like goes down and up and down. And up, down and up. And the hidden word. Colin, you got it. Bottom. Bottom. Robot to mimic. Good job.

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Wow.

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And speaking of big, impressive butts, question number four. What term marks the highest rank in sumo? Only achieved by 73 individuals so far. Second time. What term marks the highest rank in sumo? Only achieved by 73 individuals so far. I knew this word. I didn't know this is what this word meant. Right. You know where I'm going with.

[C]

Yep, I know we're going with that.

[A]

Well, hunting for the butt.

[C]

I got it.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I think so. All right. I think so. Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right, answers up. What term marks the highest rank? Chris has put yokozuna and Colin has put yokozuna. You are correct. Yokozuna. And the hidden word Chris got it is moon.

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Nice. Nice.

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Since recorded history of the Sumo Sport, only 73 has achieved this highest title. Respected.

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I knew it was not a big number. It's not a big number. Impressive. Yeah.

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Not only do they have to win X amount of consecutive championships, work their way up the ranks, they also have to pass kind of like a style test, like a grace test, you know, they also have to be, like, of the utmost, like, sportsmanship. Really, really hard to get the yokozuna rank. And very interesting. So the first non Japanese sumo wrestler got made into Yokozuna in 1993. Before this, it was all Japanese people. And finally an American, a Hawaiian, Akebono Taro, real name Chadwick haheo Rowan, number 64. So this is 1993. He was number 64 on the Yokozuna list. And between 64 to 73 are. Currently there's only been 73. Out of those 10 Yokozunas, two are American, three are Japanese, and a whopping five are Mongolian.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

In fact, out of the current active roster of sumo wrestlers, there are a number of Mongolia wrestlers. Interest, like Mongolia is really awesome at sumo wrestling. And it seems random, but it turns out that Mongolia has their own traditional wrestling called bok, which is kind of similar in style to sumo. So, like, a lot of people do it, and so it kind of just translates to sumo pretty easily. All right. Earning them this moniker, umpires historically wore pants in what color? Earning them this moniker, umpires historically wore pants in what color?

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I got it.

[C]

Yes. I have the. The secret words color of the pants is what? Is what gave them the name umpire?

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No, no, no. Umpires have a nickname that people call them at the game. They're referred to as something. And this something is the color of the pants they used to wear the.

[B]

Answer is a color.

[C]

I have no idea.

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Chris has put white, and Colin is correct with blue. And you both hunted and found the secret word, which is rump. Moniker. Umpire. Yes. You go to games sometimes, maybe made a bad call or something, and they would boo them, but instead of saying boo, you say blue.

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Or sometimes. Sometimes even the players, if they're mad, they'll be like, come on, blue.

[A]

Now, when you watch a baseball game, they're in their snazzy black polo slacks, probably of a tech fabric. All of their padding actually pretty sleek underneath their clothes. So they look. They look pretty sharp. But back then, umpires used to wear a full suit. They used to have to wear a navy blue suit, and they have to wear all the safety stuff over and back then, you know, like the padding is. And so, yeah, they'd be sweating, squatting in a suit.

[B]

The absolute least comfortable work. Get up possible.

[A]

Yes. All right, here we go. This is my last question. The Samoan government did a flip flop ratifying the unbanning of what bird's edible tail. Obviously, you can tell that the question is constructed. It sounds kind of weird because there is a hidden butt word. Here it is again. The Samoan government did a flip flop ratifying the unbanning of what bird's edible tail.

[C]

Okay, I got the secret word.

[A]

Yeah. Now hailed as the national dish.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Samoan national dish is tale of what animal?

[C]

If you're looking. If you're looking for these, Colin. It's always the two, Like.

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Yes.

[C]

And smashed it together in some weird. Like, you just got to look around there.

[B]

Yep, exactly.

[A]

All right, answer to the trivia question. Chris put emu and Colin has put peacock. And then the hidden word. You both found it. It is Pratt. Flip, flop, ratifying.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

The answer is turkey. Turkey. Why do they eat turkey tails?

[C]

Also, why was it banned?

[A]

Why is it just the turkey tails? What. What about the. Who's eating the rest of the turkey? Let me think. Well, it looks like America loves turkey. And when you buy a full turkey for Thanksgiving, there's no butt. The. The head. The head and neck is cut off, and then the butt is cut off. Those have to go somewhere. Let's not waste these things. Yes. In the 1950s, the US poultry companies began offloading their unwanted turkey tails along with other parts of other animals into the Samoan markets.

[B]

Really?

[A]

What is a turkey tail? What is it? Is it feathers? Is it. It is just, I would say, like a knuckle size, like a fist size piece of flippy butt. Like a cartoon duck. You see the little tail? It's like that part of meat and it is filled with oil that the bird uses to preen itself to oil its feathers. So this piece of meat is very, very oily, very high fat content and delicious because. Because it has high fat content.

[C]

Yeah.

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And. And the ban was in the 2000s and it was more of a health concern. You know, obesity numbers are rising. The government thought, hey, let's, let's ban turkey tails and to try to improve the diet of everyday Samoans. And so they did that. People were unhappy. They brought it back and people were eagerly awaiting for the turkey tails to come back.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Smoke them. Unassuming. Just kind of looks like a. That's like a fist. Fish shaped meat. I guess that's. I'm not really selling it.

[B]

Fish.

[C]

No, you're not.

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Fish shaped meat.

[A]

It's such an American thing to do. Be like, here, who wants our trash? Here have our garbage meat.

[B]

American success story.

[A]

Oh, I know. Yeah.

[B]

That was such a Karen quiz. The effort and the detail and like you say, like going with the idea and after like one or two being like, oh, well, guess I got to finish this one.

[C]

Yes, I'm in this.

[B]

Yeah.

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I would be like, oh, this is great. And I would finish writing this question. I'd be like, oh, okay, I have the hidden butt word. And then I was like, oh, whoops. This question has nothing to do with buts. So. So here's one that's not in officially. In the quiz, there's a hidden butt word and it's a trivia question, but it's not a trivia question about butts. Spoiler for an 18 year old movie. If you don't like spoilers for 18 year old movies. It was a 2006 movie. Please skip 15 seconds. Here's the question that didn't make in the quiz. In a series of flashbacks, identical twin characters played by Christian Bale are revealed to be the secret in what film? In a series of flashbacks, identical twin characters played by Christian Bale are revealed to be the secret in what film.

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Oh, Chris is actually writing. I guess I better write again.

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Just take the two weirdest words and it's probably hidden in there. But now you have to name the Christian Bale movie.

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I hope you got the word, Chris, because I got the movie and I.

[C]

Got the word I do not know the movie.

[B]

All right, great. All right, together, Together.

[C]

Here we go.

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Yes, the movie is correct. Colin. Got it. It is the prestige. It's the Christopher Nolan turn of century magician movie. And that was one of the many secrets revealed. And Chris found the butt word. It is backside nice. In a series of flashbacks, comma, identical twins. Yep, backside nice.

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[A]

All right, Colin, you're next.

[B]

This is not the official eggcorn watch. I usually relinquish those duties to CO Chris, our resident egg corn expert. But I do have a fun Timmy anyway. Expert eggspert. I do have a fun to me eggcorn. I don't think we've ever talked about this one on the show before. You have probably heard this one. You may have seen it on the Internet. When I was in school many years ago, I took a art history intro class. Actually majored in art history. Big shout out there.

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Oh, it is a big shout out. This is why you're the MVP of our trivia team. Art history.

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You know what? Honestly, it. It comes. It comes in handy quite a bit having somebody with some art history knowledge. Yeah. During this intro to art history class, it was really more. More. Honestly, it was a survey of Western art. So it was like intro to all of Western art, like from antiquity all the way up to modern times. And it's a lot to cover in, you know, one semester. We did, however, spend probably at least one whole lecture talking about Michelangelo's work painting in the Sistine Chapel in Vatican City. The Sistine Chapel. The professor I had in this course was very dry. I don't remember him cracking any jokes over the entire course of that class. The closest I remember him getting to even a flash of humor was during the section we were talking about the Sistine Chapel and he paused and he said, I want to remind you all, it is not the 16th Chapel. If you call it the 16th Chapel in your paper, I will dock you points for that. And that was my first introduction to the egg horn of the 16th Chapel.

[A]

I've never heard of that.

[B]

You think about it, it's like, oh, okay, the 16th Chapel, right? Sure. There were, you know, there was the 15th and this is the 16th one. And yeah, maybe there's a 17 and this one just happened to be particularly famous. You could, you can go like, if you want to just plug in 16th Chapel into that search bar and just, you'll bring up many, many results. But absolutely, there are people who believe that the Sistine that's s I s t I n e chapel is the 16th chapel.

[A]

Why is it called the Sistine Chapel?

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I'm so glad you asked. I'm so glad you asked, Karen. Yes. Why is it called the Sistine Chapel? Named in of Pope Sixtus iv? So the adjectival form of Pope Sixtus is the Sistine Chapel. As a brief recap of what Michelangelo did in the Sistine Chapel, he very, very famously painted the whole inside of the ceiling, massive frescoes. It's just a staggering achievement. One of the greatest works of Western art. Certainly the main focus of the work are nine scenes from the Bible, including very famously the creation of Adam, which I promise you, you have seen before. It's the image of Adam leaning back and God reaching out and they're just almost touching fingers. That is from one of these scenes. And painted on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. Yes. So the painting, the paintings on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel have something in common with a lot of Renaissance work, which is there's just a lot of buts in these paintings because there's a lot of nudity in the paintings. And you know, you can't have nudity without some butts, right? As the saying goes, you want to, you want to make an omelet, you got to break a few butts or something like that. And you know, you can't not mention it. It doesn't matter if you're teaching college level kids and, you know, maybe this is one reason they don't show these paintings to younger kids is because everybody obviously is just laughing at the butts a little bit. Even if you don't want to admit it to yourself, you're laughing a little bit at the butts. There are reasons why there's nudity and in a lot of these paintings. And some of it is. Well, I mean, it's as much about frankly showing off the artist's skill to truly show the human form and the anatomy as it is about any sense of, you know, biblical, you know, historicity. And in particular, when you look at a lot of the nudity in Renaissance art, it is or seems to be often chubby little naked boys, often with wings. And you're like, what are these? What Are these chubby little. Right. Some people will tell you they are cupids. And, and that's, that's partly right. Some people will say, oh, they're cherubs.

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Cherubs.

[B]

Cherubs, Right. And that's, that's partly right, sort of depending on the situation. Incidentally, the plural for cherubs properly is cherubim. So cherub. I am cherubim. And, and this is getting closer to it in Renaissance art and, and you know, surrounding period paintings, all of these little chubby, usually winged, but not always little boys. Naked. Always naked. They fall under the category of putti, I.e. p u t T I puti. That is an Italian word. It comes from the plural of the Italian word puto, which at its most basic level just means boy. So.

[A]

Okay, I had no idea they had a name. There is them in cartoons too. You're like, you're like, you know, lifting the drapery of a stage and they're on like the awning and stuff. They're, they're blowing horns and they're, they're praying. Like there's so many statues of them. I had no idea. That's, I just thought they were cherubs. They're. One of them is puto.

[B]

That's right. They, they, they as a class, they are puty. We're in the, in the umbrella term is puti. Right.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You know, I, I can all but promise you that somewhere, and somewhere in, in most of your families, maybe your mom, maybe your grandma, you know, maybe somebody has either on a shirt or a refrigerator magnet or a poster in the dorm room. You see this a lot. Two little kind of bored looking cherubs, and one is kind of leaning on his hands, the other one's kind of looking up. Right. This is, these are maybe the most famous cherubs puti in art, let's say. And this is actually a detail taken out of context from the bottom of a very famous painting by Raphael. Sticking of course, with the Ninja Turtles themes here. From Michelangelo to Raphael. Raphael had a painting called the Sistine Madonna. Not actually in the Sistine Chapel just to make this even more confusing, but his painting of the Sistine Madonna, you can Google it. You Google Sistine Madonna, Raphael, and you'll see it is a portrait, you know, vertical painting. And the Madonna child are in it, of course, and some other, you know, heavenly figures. And at the bottom, almost as a decoration are these two little bored looking putti. And just that part has been cropped out and reproduced ad infinitum.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Those are winged putti. And this is a. Just a classic example of your little winged putti. They are not cupids. Here's how you know they're not cupids. Okay. One, they are not carrying any arrows.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

You know, the very common cupid, got the little arrow. These are basically love arrows. And you'll often see cupids either in paintings with Aphrodite, Venus, or in a situation where it's really obvious that they are trying to trigger feelings of, you know, love. If you don't see the arrows, and if they're not with, like, a goddess of love, they're not cupid.

[A]

All right, so, okay, then what are cherubs?

[B]

Great.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, right. I'm hand waving a lot here, but just go with me. Think of the cherub as like. Like a baby angel. Okay, so it's sort of meant. It's sort of meant to be a baby angel. So you can tell if a puti is a cherub if they are in basically a religious scene. Okay. So if they are accompanying other holy figures or, you know, people from major scenes in the Bible being depicted, then they're surrounded by the little winged puti. Those are cherubs. They are meant to evoke and symbolize an angelic presence. Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Now, there is a very specific meaning in Christian theology of what a cherub is and is actually fairly high on the angel ranks. Not to be confused with the little doughy, you know, winged naked boys flying around in paintings. Okay. Those are your traditional cherubs. All right, so we've got our cupids. They got the arrows. They're in a love or an amorous context. We've got our cherubs. They are usually in a religious or a holy or a devotional context. And then everything else is just putty, kind of just generic babies to talk about.

[A]

They're not human, per se.

[B]

That's right. They're not really human. They're more for kind of, it seems silly to say, just sort of your general needs of winged. Of winged children floating around. Yeah, they're often getting into, like, little mischievous, you know, scenes. So that is the sort of simple taxonomy, if you will, of the difference between cupids, cherubs, and then just garden variety putti. All of them are gonna be naked with their little pooty butts in some way, shape or form. And hopefully, if this comes up, you can. You can correct somebody at pub quiz. I do need to give a special shout out to writer Meg Butler. She had an article with the Getty Art foundation in my spirit of great titles. Her article is what do you call those tiny winged babies.

[A]

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