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283: Gettin' Personal with the Computer
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[TRIVIA HARD MODE] activated. Yes, first time in 12 years we had to put a difficulty disclaimer. Nothing sinister, just a coincidence that we all went a bit nerdier than usual. So why not listen to us flail at computer trivia? Take Karen's exhaustively comprehensive movie robot voice challenge and see if you can identify the actors behind those voices. Learn how the toy industry is to blame for the Worst Computer Ever Existed. And very aptly, Colin made his computer quiz while walking around in the heart of Silicon Valley. ALSO: the return of the off-topic Music Round, expertly crafted by Chris. There is no Fleetwood Mac.
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You're listening to an Airwave media podcast.
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Hello, chum chopping chums listening to Chumbawamba on the Champs Elysees. Welcome to Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show and offbeat trivia podcast. This is episode 283. And of course, I'm your humble host, Karen. And we are your complimentary but complicated, compatible companions. Compulsive about compotes.
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I'm Colin.
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And I'm Chris. Love a compote.
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Absolutely.
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All right, we're going to start off with a bit of something. Something wacky. This is from our Good Job Brain community. Douglas today just wrote in. He said, how about having a little fun courtesy of my misery?
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We're happy to celebrate your misery.
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He says, apparently I have shingles and it sucks.
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Oh, no.
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A friend of mine said she'd bring over a few things to help. Included was a single can of sour cream and cheddar Pringles. Because she said, how often do you get to eat something that rhymes with your medical condition?
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That's nice.
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Yeah. Pringles for shingles.
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Pringles for shingles. Like, they should really embrace that as a. You know, I don't know how many people get it. Get shingles every year. But, like, what? Seriously, from, like, a marketing opportunity, you could corner this. Like, just, you know, we're the snack for when you have shingles.
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So Douglas says, here's a challenge. Complete the sentence. I have medical condition and I'm eating. Rhyming edible item to the. That rhymes with medical condition.
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Well, sure. We used to play this in the car on road trips.
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The good old. Yeah. Medical conditions. Snack game.
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Snack game. Yeah.
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The community has spoken.
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I love it.
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So I have some worthy entries from the comment section. Randall says, I have polio and I'm eating a tub of olio de.
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That's just going to make it worse.
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Yeah.
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Stephanie says I have glaucoma and I'm eating pavlova. Pavlova.
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Yeah.
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Okay. No, that's good.
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This. This one. Trevor says I have gonorrhea and I'm eating a quesadilla. Andy says I have bunions, so I'm eating.
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That's good. That's my favorite so far is bunions and fun.
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I like putting in a brand, like a branded item, you know, like Pringles. And lastly, Stacy says I have Tourette's and I'm eating courgettes.
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Oh, that's good, too.
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Thank you, Douglas. Next time you're on a road trip, Next time you're on a car ride. Hey, Families play this game.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Start with the diseases you already have. That's a good way to get it rolling.
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Yeah. Joke. What? You know.
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All right, without further ado, let's jump into our first general trivia segment. Pop quiz. Hot shot here. I have a random Trivial Pursuit card. Random from the box. You guys have your barnyard buzzers. Everybody, let's answer some questions. Here we go. Blue wedge. The names of how many of the United States end in the letter O. Oh, man.
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Okay.
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I mean, we can also work together, too.
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Yeah, we can.
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I'm just gonna go. I was just gonna go from the hip and just say like one. Because I could just think of Ohio right off the bat.
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I can think of another one which is Idaho.
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Ohio. Idaho.
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Okay, I'm working. I'm working. I'm trying to work from west to east.
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Yeah, I would say they're predominantly on the west.
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Okay. Okay. Oh, Colorado.
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Oh, yes. There you go. And one more.
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And New Mexico.
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New Mexico.
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That is a tough one to just like, answer in a game of Trivial Pursuit.
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Really? It's looking. It's looking for a number answer, right? You didn't have to list out the States.
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Yeah.
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All right, good to know. Next one. Pink wedge. For pop culture, which Broadway and screen legend starred as Mary Poppins and Maria von Trapp? Chris.
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Julie Andrews.
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The one and only Julie Andrews. Yellow edge. Which fashion designer is known for making women's suits with colorless jackets and fitted skirts beginning in the 1920s?
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Coco Chanel. I have no idea.
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It is Coco Chanel.
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Yeah.
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Purple wedge. In the Aesop fable where slow, we're slow and steady wins the race. Who came out? The loser who came.
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I mean, come on.
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Colin.
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I. I believe it was. It was the hair, right? Properly. Not a rabbit, right? It was a hair.
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Hair or rabbit?
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Oh, okay. All right.
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Tortoise in the hair.
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Yeah.
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Guess what? The hair lost.
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Yeah.
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Yep. Snooze, you lose.
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Green wedge. What type of clothing is J wear? The letter J. J wear. Which Koichi Wakata Wore continuously for one month on the International Space Station in 2009? I'll say it again. I'll say it again.
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Okay.
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What type of clothing? So it's asking for what article of clothing. What type of clothing is J wear? Capital J. Capital W. Which Koichi Wakata Wore continuously for one month on the International Space Station in 2009?
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Colin, I'm going to guess it is an advanced type of long term underwear.
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And you are correct, it is underwear. Says a new kind of antibacterial Odor eliminating undies.
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Yes, hopefully.
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All right, last question. Orange wedge. Who is the first woman to become a full time NBA All Star assistant coach? Oh, boy, there are a lot of qualifiers in that question. First woman to become a full time NBA All Star assistant coach, Colin.
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Boy, I'm trying to think like when this card was written to. Is it? And I hope I'm right here. Is it, is it, is it Becky Hammond.
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Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
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Okay, all right. Yeah, I think she was. I think she was like with the spurs organization. San Antonio Spurs.
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You are our basketball mvp. All right, good job, brains. On with the show. Colin, topic picker, please. Let's intro this week's topic.
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I knew when we were choosing topics a couple weeks back, I was going to be heading down to Palo Alto, California for a week for a work off site, if you will not. I mean, you know, it's 45 minutes away, but still an off site. And I got to thinking about computers and I had to actually check. I could not believe that we had not done an episode just on computers. Like, we've done a lot on technology and video games and I thought it was time that we do something all around the computer.
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So this week we're getting personal with the computer.
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You know, I see the topic is going to be personal computers. And I'm just like hit with dread because if it's a topic about something that I don't know anything about, I can be. I could just be like, I wrote a quiz and every word has the letters P and C in it or something like that.
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But, you know, right.
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Oh, shit, I've done it.
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Oh, that's so good.
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Can't believe I didn't think of that. But for me it's like, okay, I've like written multiple books on like, video game and, you know, tech history and stuff like that. I can't come to this. I gotta have a good story. So I got a good story for everybody. It's from the early days of personal computers and it is called the Computer that Took Down a Toy Giant. Oh, you've probably at least heard of, if you're out there, the Video game crash of 1983.
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Right?
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Video games had sold like gangbusters for, you know, a good solid five years, like up through the 1982 Christmas season, doing incredibly well. Everybody's super hyped on video games. And then in 1983, video game sales in the United States take a massive nosedive. Everybody loses a whole bunch of money in 1983, and a lot of People exit, you know, the market for video games. Now, there's a lot of different reasons why this happened, but one of the reasons was that suddenly there was a lot of competition in the space from personal computers. Oh, personal computers had been a thing since basically 1977. That's when the Commodore PET, the TRS 80, the Apple 2 all came out. That first, the holy trinity, they call it, like kicking off the era of having a computer in your house. By 1982, you know, like five years later, they had several models of computer. Commodore 64 was available. IBM had introduced the IBM PC, which it would be a while before that became the standard. But, like, the first ones were out there and there were price wars happening with computers. Like, you could now just get a home computer for like a couple hundred dollars. And the thing with these early home computers is that a lot of them were like, souped up video game systems. Like, oh, yeah, they weren't really great yet at like, functional kind of. You know, they sold them to moms with like, you can do your taxes. It's like, well, you know, but it's like more convenient to just do it with paper. You can put your recipes in the computer and it's like, yeah, but, you.
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Know, not gonna lug it.
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Convenient to have a little recipe card. Yeah, right, exactly. Oh, they. Oh, they had, they had advertisements and stuff with mom. And the computer was sitting there in the kitchen and looking over at, over.
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At the green, the amber display and just like squinting at it.
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But they basically were just like video game machines that had keyboards in it. And they had the ability to support printers and, you know, tape drives and things like that. And really the other thing to remember is that most people just bought a computer and they didn't buy a monitor and they didn't put it on a desk. They just took the computer home and plugged it into the family TV set in the living room. And we're probably just playing games. But there was this thought of, like, why would I buy a $200 video game system when I could just buy a $250 or $300 computer? And then our household gets to have a computer, you know, and it plays the same games and it probably takes the same joystick. So it's like that was causing a lot of consumer dollars to shift from games to computers. And people sort of saw video game systems as like, oh, this is going out because now it's just going to be computers in the home. This was like the first step towards having, like, a real computer. And we don't need this anymore.
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I remember, I remember kind of that argument among like sort of my parents level. The home computer system was like, oh, such an obviously better investment in your family's future and well being than this silly toy video game, Right? Yeah.
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So if you're a company that makes silly toy video games, you're thinking, oh, we got to get into making computers because that's where it's all going. So we just, we shift over into making computers. So again, Atari had already introduced computers. They were already there. Mattel, the toy company that made the Intellivision, actually introduced a computer called the Aquarius in 1983. Oh yeah. And around the same time, Coleco, maker of the Colecovision gaming system, which had only come out in 82. In 83, they were like, we're going to release a computer. They called it the Atom.
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The Atom A D a M or Atom A D a M. But maybe.
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They were trying to get you to think of the Atom too.
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You know, it's like, it's, it's that.
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Combination of like religiousness and technology that so many of the, you know. Yeah. So the Atom absolutely was a souped up Colecovision. In fact, it was totally compatible with the Colecovision, but it had just more processing power. Stuff like that in the box came with ColecoVision controllers. You put your ColecoVision games in it.
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Nice.
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And you could either buy a standalone Atom or you could buy one. It was an expansion module that was plugged into the ColecoVision you already had and it turned it into an Atom computer. So you could do it that way too. The conceit of the Atom, where they tried to outthink everybody else, is that how it was sold? Was that you got a complete computer system in the box with the monitor? With no monitor? No monitor. That would be a really big box. But okay, so if you think about the Commodore 64. Commodore 64, probably like $200 at this point. It was just the Commodore 64, like where the computer was inside the keyboard, you know, it's all plugged in and it was just that and a power supply in the box. So you take that home and you don't, you can't, like, you can't save it. You have no way to save anything. You have no way to print anything. You can basically, you can program something in basic, but then you turn it off and it's gone. You know, there's not even a joystick in the box. That's why it was so cheap. The Atom was going to be $700, which is like $2,000 today. But inside the box for the Atom was the Atom computer. Dual tape drives, two tape drives that use essentially the cassette tapes. Right. Two ColecoVision controllers in this head, a fully separate keyboard. So unlike a lot of the where the keyboard was built into the computer like itself, this had an actual detachable, professional looking keyboard. And also in the box was a printer. And the printer that was in this box is very, very interesting because it was a daisy wheel letter quality printer. Right? Well, I don't know what is letter quality is. You can use it to like write a letter just like that would look as good as a good typewriter, basically, because at this point, computers could have printers, but they were like dot matrix printers and what they printed out was pretty chunky. So what the Atom came with was a printer that had a daisy wheel. It had a wheel that looked like a flower, like the head of a flower with spokes coming off the wheel. And every one of those spokes had a letter or a number on it.
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Yeah, like a stamp.
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Yes.
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Oh, so it was like a typewriter, Like a rotary. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
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Yeah, like a rotary typewriter wheel.
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Right, got it.
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What it could do could only be text, but it would look really good. It would look like it was from a typewriter.
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Oh, okay.
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And you could take the Atom printer and you could, you could use the, you know, computer paper with the holes down the end.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Dot matrix, you could do that.
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But you could also just feed it a regular sheet of paper and you could even use the Atom like a typewriter if you wanted to. Like, you just typed and it would just appear on the page. And people, people were excited about this.
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It's such a simple proposition too. You know what I mean? It's like, it's futuristic, but also you can be like, especially in the 80s, like, yes, I do need something that I can type up letters and stuff like that. This, this sounds great. And attainable.
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People were psyched about the Atom coming. The issue in the beginning seemed to be that Coleco couldn't make them enough or make enough of them to hit Christmas 83. They wanted to have half a million units on shelves for Christmas 83. And turned out they really were having issues manufacturing the printers because a letter quality printer was something at that time that would be like in an office and be really expensive. But they were really trying to make a mass market one. It worked, but it was really hard to manufacture it, like, get it really functional. So they only got 100,000 units out for Christmas. 83. The few people who were able to get an Atom and bring it home probably very excited at that time. But the issue is a lot of that excitement kind of very quickly turned into frustration. First of all, there was a cost saving measure because again, they're doing a lot in this box for $683. It's a lot of money. But it's also. People looked at it and was like, oh, that's cheap considering what you get. Because a printer usually costs $600.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There was, again, to save money, there was one power plug and it plugged into the printer. So you plugged the power plug into the printer and then plugged the computer into the printer.
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Ah, it just passed through, which means.
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That it was passed through. So you had to turn the printer on all the time, even if you did not want to use it just to power up the whole system. This also meant that if the printer broke, which it turns out it did a lot, your entire computer is a brick until you get the printer repaired. Apparently the manuals they shipped with this thing were really bad. But that's not even the craziest thing. None of that is even the craziest thing about the atomic. This blew me away. I didn't even know this. I knew about the. I knew about the funky, you know, the pass through power on the printer and how that I did not realize this. There were a lot of people who would bring their atom home and try to get it going and just nothing would happen. Would not run. Couldn't figure out what it was. Turns out they found out that when the atom is switched on, this is a big thing, by the way. It's a big machine with a big old printer next to it. And when you turn it on, it generates a massive electromagnetic surge that just blows out of the system. So if there is any magnetic media anywhere near the atom, when you turn it on, it immediately erases everything around it.
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Oh my God.
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So people and what do they have? What do they do? They just set up their computer. What's stacked right next to the computer is all the cassette tape. With this thing. The word processor is on a cassette. Tape BASIC is on a cassette. Nothing's on the computer. It's all on these tapes. The game Buck Rogers, which came with the Atom, is on a cassette. So people are literally going up, where are the cassette tapes? They're sitting right next to the system. They're getting ready to load it in. They turn on the power. And it goes. This is wiping their data, wipes everything. I mean, if they had audio cassettes, you know, if they had their cassette tapes by the stereo wipes, all those. So that they don't know. So they put the blank, you know, totally gaussed tapes and. And they try to get it working and nothing happens. And this is the age of. You don't go on the Internet.
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Yeah.
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What do they do? Yeah, you take the thing. By the way, the box for the atom is T10 inches by 20 inches by 40 inches. So this box is as tall as one of my kids. It's huge. What do you do in 1983? Oh, my God.
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Put it back in your car and go back to Sears or wherever you got it from.
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And you go back to Sears and what do they do? They give you another atom. And then they take this atom, take it home, plug it in, erases all.
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Your tapes, put it back.
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There are reviewers in magazines that are like, I am on my phone, fifth atom. Like, I can't get this thing to work. And the anecdotal stories that people did the same thing. So now the store is like, the store got five atoms. One person took them all home, blew them all up, brought them back, and they're all sitting there. And then early 1984, all this stuff goes back to Aleco.
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No. So they had 100,000 units, but it's probably like 20,000 people, right? They're just so.
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They're just so. They are buried in returned hardware. They had to pay all of that out to the stores. And it's not like Coleco was actually really even doing that great. So they end up losing tons of money in this. Now in 1985, they end up discontinuing the atoms. Makes it doesn't even make it two years. They really try. They try to fix the problems. They put a sticker on the thing that says, don't put. Do not put your atom tapes next to any piece of electronics. Like, don't put it near your tv.
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It's just such. Just the amount of control that you need to have over the, like the user of your product here for it to not go bad. Terrible.
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So what else? Who wants to answer this trivia question? What else was cool? Coleco selling it a lot of. In around 1985. They had a super hot product in 1985. Was not a video game.
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Okay.
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Was not electronic at all. Was an extremely low technology toy. They were selling the heck out of this in 1985. One of the biggest toy Fans. Teddy Ruxpin, very close is.
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It's not a cab. Cabbage Patch Kid.
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It's a Cabbage Patch Kid. Those were made by Coleco. 85 turned out to be. That was the peak of Cabbage Patch Kids. And they started coming down. But even the money they were making off of Cabbage Patch Kids was not enough to save them.
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No way.
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Essentially, how bad the video game and then computer stuff got burned. They didn't have anything else. And so Coleco went into Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 1988, even though they had money and then they sold off the assets.
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Imagine having a product so bad that the Cabbage Patch Kids couldn't bail you out.
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So trying to make a computer was real bad for. For old Coleco there.
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Wow.
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But like you said, Chris, we got a PC pretty early on. I was like a little kid, and this is like Ms. Dos. So even before, like, Windows, you know, operating platform, and it was for games and printing. That's what it was. That's literally like, why we got. It was like, oh, the printer. And we get to play some games.
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I feel like as a kid, at least for the families that I knew, the number one expense was probably printer ink and the paper from just us using Print shop to make, like, 12 foot long, you know, Happy Birthday banners and like, welcome Home, mom banners. So that takes like 18 minutes to print and you, like, tear the thing off and I'm sure it's like, oh, thank you.
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And they're just like, Yep. That costs $20.
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Yeah, you got it taped up in the kitchen.
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Clip art.
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Do you have any birthday candles? Oh, yeah, we got that. Yeah, we got that in the clip art. Yeah, we got that.
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Oh, my God.
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Do you have any color? No, no, no, it's black and white.
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No, no, no, no, no. It's more gray.
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Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
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Well, we're going to travel from the past to our present. Maybe a little bit of our future. I have a quiz here. An audio quiz. Not a music quiz, but an audio quiz. I have assembled a few key scenes from movies featuring an AI character featuring a computer program and. Or computer program that lives inside a frame of a robot. And so each clip will have a scene from a movie, and you will have to identify what movie and who is voicing this computer AI character. And in this quiz, they're all voices. It's not Michael Fassbender in, like, you know, Prometheus, where he plays a robot or.
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Okay, it's animated or CG or something. Yeah, like a popular. Okay, all right. Okay. All right.
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Let's test your movie smarts. And the first batch kind of recognizable and probably easier to get. And then towards the end is man S level super tier, kind of hard. So welcome to this AI Voice quiz. Here we go. Clip number one. You stay.
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I go.
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No following.
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Oh, sounds familiar.
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Yes.
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Oh, man. This is really.
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Childhood favorite.
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It's so. It's gonna be.
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Oh, I didn't know I was gonna stump you guys with it.
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No, man, it's. It's in the punch bowl. Yeah. And they're all.
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I'll tell you what.
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All right.
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He kind of sounds like Groot.
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Oh, okay. It's. What's his face?
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Vin Diesel.
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Yeah. Vin Diesel.
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The movie is the Iron Giant animated film. Iron Giant.
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Yes.
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Hard to believe.
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Late 90s, right?
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Yep. That was a big Vin Diesel.
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That's right. Should have gotten that one. No, that one's on you, Karen.
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Sounds like we're family, Dom. All right, family here. Clip number two.
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Well, basically, I have intuition.
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I mean, the DNA of who I am is based on the millions of personalities of all the programmers who wrote me. But what makes me me is my ability to grow through my experiences. So basically, in every moment, I'm evolving, just like you.
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Wow, that's really weird. Is that weird? Do you think I'm weird?
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This is. This. Is this ScarJo from.
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Yes, her. From her.
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Scarlett Johansson knew that one was from her. Quite an obvious choice. But I love this passage because back then we're like, oh, yeah. Whoa. This is high tech. Features. Future stuff, man. Like robots, AI can sound like a real person instead of being. This is my robot voice. And it's like, here we are now, living in this age.
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Yes.
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It's so insane that, like, what she described was completely, like, normal now.
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Yeah.
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You know, back then you're like, oh, this is a sci fi movie. Yeah. All right, here we go. Next clip. Attention, people of Earth.
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Bow before the power of your new digital overlord. What are you doing? Oh, my God, he's doing it. He's actually doing it.
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Oh, you might not know the movie.
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A
But I'm trying to go on the Voice. Yeah, I'm trying to. I'm trying to go on the Voice. That's a tough one. Chris, you got anything?
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C
I do not have anything. I'm sorry.
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He's British.
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Yeah, actually British. Yeah, he's. He's. Yeah, real British, not fake British.
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He's hosts a show in America.
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Oh, is it James Corden?
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Yep. James Corden. All right. In the Melissa McCarthy film, Super Intelligence.
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C
Oh, wow.
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A
Did not see that pretty.
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B
I think that's within the last three years, but yes. Melissa McCarthy, Bobby Cannaval. And the reason why it's James Corden is because Melissa McCarthy's character was like, oh, I love James Corden.
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A
And so, yeah, it becomes James. Yeah, no, that totally.
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B
That totally kept the voice to. To keep it non. Threatening. Should have placed till the end. Yeah. All right. Wow, man. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna put these in the front because they're a little bit easier to recognize. Oh, I apologize for. For. For being hard.
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A
That's all right. You know what, Karen? As I like to say, sometimes trivia is hard.
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B
Here we go. Clip number four.
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A
Here I am. Bring the size of a planet and they asked me to take you up to the bridge. Call that job satisfaction, because I don't. You can thank the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.
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For building robots with gpp.
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What's gpp? Genuine People Personalities.
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C
I'm a personality prototype.
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You can tell, can't you?
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C
Oh.
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Oh, Colin. Decisively.
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That one, I'm pretty sure, is Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. And the voice of the inimitable Alan Rickman.
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C
Yeah, yeah, I knew who the voice was for sure, but I didn't know it was Hitchhiker.
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B
Professor Snape. Also Galaxy Quest. Yes.
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C
Here he is.
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Marvin the Paranoid Android. Beloved, depressed robot character from Hitchhikers. Good one. All right, here we go. Clip number five. See if you know this voice.
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I lost track of them in the North Atlantic, but the people who took her spoke Yucatech. Mayan. Oh, interesting.
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B
Let's. It's short. Let's. Let's run it again.
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A
Sure.
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C
Yeah.
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Play it back. I lost track of them in the North Atlantic, but the people who took her spoke Yucatech. Mayan.
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B
If you don't know the voice helps if you. There's an accent.
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Okay.
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But also a little bit of information about the plot of the movie.
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C
Right.
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Track of them in the ocean.
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Yucatan. Yucatan, Mayan.
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A
Wow.
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Iron man had Jarvis and Friday.
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A
Huh? And Wakanda had Black Panther's, you know, AI assistant. Right.
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B
Or this is Guri, which means storyteller, voiced by Trevor Noah.
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A
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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B
All right, here we go. Number six.
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A
If you find out what is wrong with me, can you fix me? Maybe. I think it would be better not to die. Don't you, Doctor?
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B
Oh, Chris.
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C
Is it Robin Williams?
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B
No. Are you thinking of Bicentennial Man?
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C
Yes.
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B
That's a good guess, but it's not. But you're. You're in the same era of Movies. I'll tell you. I'll tell you. This guy has voiced Duke of Weselton. Oh, Alan Tudyk, Candy King, and Heihei from Moana. Yes, it is Alan.
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A
Yeah. So it's. Is that the movie? Was it Rogue One?
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B
Oh, he was also K2, so. Yes. Correct. But it's not it. Okay, this is iRobot.
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A
Okay.
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Who knew? Yes, He. Alan Tudyk already lending his voice talents back then to. Yes, Sunny. Who is the. The robot.
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A
Have not seen that one in a long time.
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B
I don't think I've seen that one at all. Very different. Not the same as the book, but.
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A
No, not, not. Not really in any meaningful way at all.
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B
Now we're entering the hard zone. Like, okay, this is where. Now it's still within the realm of trivia. Next clip.
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Rapid Fire is the default for enhanced combat mode. Would you like to see more Options? You have 576 possible web shooter combinations. Great choice.
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B
Would you like me to set this.
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A
As your new default? Okay, so that's got to be Spider Man's, like, AI voice, right? Web shooter options. The animated ones. The new ones.
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B
Incorrect. It is Tom Holland.
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A
Dang it. Okay, so where he's got Tony Stark outfitting him with all his gear. Right? Okay, all right, all right. Okay. Who does that voice of his little AI assistant.
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B
And it has a very interesting connection.
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C
Kirsten Dunst.
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Oh, nice guess. Good guess.
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B
Very good guest, but a good guess.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Okay.
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It is Jennifer Connelly. Jennifer Connelly. Labyrinth. Work for A Dream, A Beautiful Mind. Jennifer Connelly in real life is married to Paul Bettany. Why does Paul Bettany sound familiar? He is the voice of Jarvis and. And. And is Vision.
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A
Yeah. And visions. Right, right.
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It's cute that they're a real life actor couple. We got a few more. Okay, next clip. Clip number seven.
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C
How did you find this place?
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A
Where's my daughter?
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C
You had the coordinates for this facility marked on your map.
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A
Where did you get those coordinates?
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C
Where's my daughter? Don't make me take you down again. Sit down.
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A
You still think you're a Marine, pal? Marines don't exist anymore. Well, that's definitely Matthew McConaughey as far as.
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B
He is not.
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I'm just trying to help. Just narrow down the movie, though. I'm just like, yeah. What I can identify.
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B
What kind of movie would have a robot? What kind of futuristic movie would Matthew McConaughey be in?
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C
How to lose man in 40 space.
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B
Days, he talks about his daughter.
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A
Oh, is it interstellar?
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B
It is Stellar of course.
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A
All right. With tars, one of the truly great movie robots. I love tar. Yes. Yeah.
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B
And you're like, wow, in the future, they must be sophisticated. No, they look like refrigerators.
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A
It's fantastic. Just a giant, like, slab of, like, charcoal gray.
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B
So silly. But in a Christopher Nolan movie, you're like, oh, yeah, of course.
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A
I would pay a lot of money for a cool TARS figure. I'll be honest with you. Yeah.
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B
And then when you start running and swimming.
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A
Yeah, it's great.
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B
It's such a strange concept.
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A
I love it. But, yes, I love it. Which makes me all the embarrassed, Karen, to say that despite as how much I love tars. I don't know who voices tars. Or I have.
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B
Oh, it is a name, I think. Movie files. No, it is Bill Irwin. Bill Irwin. If you have a kid and your kid watches Elmo, he is Mr. Noodle, known for a lot of clown work, vaudeville. But he's also, like, an actor for a lot of things. He was in, of course, Queen of Nepo Babies, Liza Minnelli's Stepp Out. He was a dancer in that movie. That's kind of my first memory of him. He not only provided the voice, but he actually. TARS in the movie was a practical effect. It literally was like slabs of metal, like a box. And Bill Irwin, who voiced it, also controlled and puppeted.
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A
Oh.
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B
With hydraulics.
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A
It's very Sesame street like.
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B
Here we go. Final boss, guys. Final scary Android overlord. All right, last clip.
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A
Okay.
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B
Identify the film and the voice. Here we go.
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A
Nowhere to go but up, Chris. Here we go. Scan complete.
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B
You have a slight epidermal abrasion on your forearm. I suggest an antibacterial spray.
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A
Whoa, whoa, whoa. What's in the spray, specifically?
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B
The primary ingredient is bacitracin.
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A
A bummer. I'm actually allergic to that.
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C
Well, actually, I don't know the actor. Sorry.
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B
Oh, yeah, we all know the movie. Who's the actor?
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C
Gooey. It's. It's Big Hero 6, but I don't. I do not know who played Baymax. I'm sorry.
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B
It is Big Hero 6. It's Baymax. Colin.
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A
It was. Yeah, it's. It's Pete. Pete. Pete. Pete Hornberger from 30 Rock.
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B
What is his name?
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A
Scott. Scott. Scott. Am I on the right track? Is it Scott? Is it Scott something?
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B
Add sit.
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A
Scott. Adsee from 30 Rock.
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B
Liz Lemons. Trusty. Yeah. Right hand man. Thank you, everybody, for my AI robot voice quiz. Hopefully you guys at home had fun with it. Let's take a break. And we'll be right back. This episode is brought to you by Factor. The leaves are falling, the kids are schooling and there's pumpkin in our lattes. That's right. Summer's changing in the fall and brings big change into our routine as well. My oldest kid just started kindergarten, so shout out to all the COVID babies who are also starting kindergarten this year. Finding the time to cook can be tough as I'm adjusting to this brand new schedule. That's why I factor in my back pocket, but not literally my back pocket. They're in my fridge. There are chef prepped dietitian approved meals. Make it easy to eat healthy no matter how hectic the season gets. So eat smart@factor meals.com goodjob 50 off and use the code good job 50 off to get 50% off your first box plus free breakfast for one year. That's code good job 50 off@factor meals.com for 50% off your first box and free breakfast for one year. Get delicious Ready to eat meals delivered with Factor offers only valid for new Factor customers with code and qualifying auto renewing subscription purchase.
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Hey.
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C
You're listening to Good Job Brain Smooth Puzzles, Smart Trivia, Good Job BR.
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B
And we're back this week we're talking about computers while you school us on some computer stuff. Colin with your quiz.
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A
Yeah, so as I mentioned, I was down in Palo Alto, California this past week. Many great technology companies based there over the last almost 100 years were coming up one of the earliest Successes was the Hewlett Packard Corporation. Oh, in Hewlett Packard or HP company history, there's lore about that they were literally started in a garage. Can in fact still go to the actual site of the actual garage where Hewlett and Packard started their company. Yeah. You know, back in the 1930s, I was inspired to put together a quiz for you too, about early computer history, mid computer history, maybe a little bit of later computer technology. It's a grab bag quiz. It is a stew, a melange of some trivia questions, some fill in the blanks, some know it or you don't questions. Karen, I'm very glad that you have set the bar. Now, I was a little worried some of these questions in this quiz might be too hard, but I'm not so worried now that Chris and I just went, you know, I think, you know, two for nine on that last quiz. So. So we're in great shape here. I was inspired in particular to read a little bit more about the HP garage story. I learned a couple interesting things.
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I'm sorry, I only know HP as printers.
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A
They made Karen so much money from printers that. Yeah, well, they were a computer company primarily at one point, then started making printers in their very early days. They were just sort of an electronics company. You know, it was founded by Bill Hewlett, David Packard. They had both had degrees in electrical engineering from Stanford, which is right there in Palo Alto, California in 1938, part time eased into their electronics company out of a rented garage. You know, they were at such an inflection point in technology history, like in the late 1930s of what was available as far as materials science.
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B
And what were they making in the 30s?
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A
Well, Karen, that's a great question.
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B
Oh, oh, okay.
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A
Okay, so. But first I'll share this little nugget which I learned about them. When they decided to get serious. They flipped a coin to decide whether the company would be called Hewlett Packard or Packard Hewlett. It was not like in any way that Hewlett did more or brought more to the table. Yeah. But I thought that was pretty cool. So their first big contract was to provide the HP200B, which was a frequency oscillator. All right. Oh, they sold a bunch of these to what big American company? 1938. 1938.
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General Electric.
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A
Great guess. I'll give you another clue here. This was for the entertainment industry. Oh, these were used. These were used in the production of a very famous 194040 film, Chris's Eyes.
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B
It's gonna pop out of your Head.
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C
This was oscillators.
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A
Oscillators. It's a sound. Yeah, right, your frequency oscillator sound equipment for a 1940 animated film by the name of Fantasia. Their, their early sale was eight of these to be used in animating and producing the audio for Fantasia. So that they were like, all right, we got this big sale to Disney. We can do this. And that gave them enough confidence to.
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B
Apparently, I don't know what an oscillator does, but that's okay.
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A
And then of course, you know, flash forward over the course of many, many decades and they got into computers and other kinds of technology and yes, of course, printers. In 2015, they split into two companies, actually. So all of the sort of the business products and the high level enterprise stuff was spun off into one division. And all of the printer, core, core printer and PC business became sort of the hp Inc. Which is what we think of when we think of HP today. Yeah. So as I'm assembling this quiz, I'm walking around on my phone and thinking to myself how great, like how truly, truly great wireless Internet is. I mean, no, no question. I don't think I'm being hyperbolic. Like it's, it's, it's one of the greatest inventions of our lifetime. It's magic. And then I was flashing back to my very first. My own Internet connection. I don't mean like my family shared connection. I mean like my own Internet connection. They're just laughing. So this was like, this was back after I had my first apartment after college. I felt like such a big man. I was living by myself and I bought myself my very own cutting edge, state of the art 56k modem. Yes. Blazing fast to get on, to get on the Internet. What did the k in the 56k modems stand for?
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C
I believe it's kilobytes per second.
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A
Yes, you got it. That's right. It's for K kbps. Technically, kilobits per second, but yes, you got it. Yes, kilobits per second. Right. Roughly. Roughly equivalent to a kilobyte. It's. This is the whole 1000 versus 1024 difference. But yeah, we're going to hand wave that once and just not come back to that again. Right? Yeah, kpbs. That's right. Kilobit per second. So just for comparison for you kids out there listening, all right, I know this means nothing to you. It barely means anything to me at this, at this remove of this many years. So 56k modem. 56,000 bits per second. Okay, so a kilobit is 1000 bits. You could send like a 100kb JPEG, let's say. All right. And that's like, you know, a decent medium smallish size JPEG image. That would take you roughly two seconds. Okay. On the modem. Okay. All right. You know, reading, reading a web page was actually somewhat tolerable if there weren't too many images. But you know, two seconds per image, let's say. Okay. Now today you can pretty easily in many places. Sign up for now Gigabit Internet. Okay. Gigabit Ethernet Internet, which is 1 billion bits per second. 1 gigabit per second. So 1 billion bits per second compared to 56,000 bits per second in that same two seconds that you could have downloaded one smallish medium ish size image. JPEG. You could download, you know, a shade under a two hundred and fifty megabyte video file in that same two seconds. Yeah, on gigabit connection. All right. You know you can also buy gigabyte drives now. Gigabyte hard drives, the next level. You can also easily buy terabyte.
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Terabyte.
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Yeah. And I have seen, I don't have one yet myself, but you can get consumer level now. Petabyte drives. Pb what is the next level? When we finally get there after petabyte. Oh my God. So from megabyte to gigabyte to terabyte to petabyte, there are no consumer grade level this next level, but they.
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Does it exist?
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From what I understand, it is available, but you have to be institutional level. It's not like you're not going to. But it exists, it does exist. Okay, but you're doing like fractional shares from what it sounds like. So what is the next level? What's the next unit after Peter Bite A. There is a very, very oblique pattern to these names that I learned. I'm not promising that you're going to intuit it. I'm not going to apologize for this being hard, but there is somewhat of a pattern after. So all right, so here's the naming. All right. So. So they all come from Greek. Okay. Kilobyte comes from the word meaning thousand thousand. Megabyte comes from the word meaning great. Gigabyte comes from the word meaning giant, gigantic. So from there, once we get into terabyte, petabyte, and this next one there's a little bit of a pattern.
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B
How do you spell petabyte?
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P, E, T A.
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B
What's hexa?
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Hexabyte exabyte. It's E X A Exabyte.
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B
Oh, Terra, tetra, PETA, penta. Oh, you take out a letter yesterday?
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A
Yes. Tetra, terra, PETA, penta, hexa, xa. Yeah, it's. They're, they're a little bit of cheeky there in the naming, but I totally. This, this kind of in a very nerdy way blew my mind a little bit when I realized. Yeah. That there's what.
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B
Let's predict the next one.
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A
Well, I have it here in front of me. Yeah, I can tell you. But what would you guess? Well, it's septa, it's zeta bite, zetta byte. Just such a ridiculously large number. We're never going to see that in our lifetime. I mean maybe even. Yeah, it's just not even worth talking about really. As I, as I sit here right now, I'm recording and I am using 1, 2, 3 USB connections to this computer and that includes a USB to USB dongle. Usb dongle, Dongle, dongle. It's always fun to stand and say dongle. What, what does USB stand for? I guarantee you all have 50 USB cords or cables in your house. Karen.
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B
Universal.
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A
Yes. One third of the way there. Serial, two thirds of the way there. Yeah. Universal Serial Bus. Right.
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B
Why, why a bus?
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A
That's kind of just sort of the catch all term for the, the mechanism or the protocol for sending information back and forth between.
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B
Oh, like you're busing it back from. Okay.
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If every household in the U.S. which is roughly 130 million households, had just a single 3 foot long USB cable that would be laid end to end, approximately 74,000 miles long.
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B
Wow.
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A
Now converting that to our. For our metric friends. 118,000. That's enough to wrap around the earth. Karen, help you visualize this. Okay, that's enough to wrap around the earth about three times.
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B
How many people worldwide or just us?
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This is one cable per US household would be enough to wrap around the earth three times. That's just the US I am not counting. That's not North America, that's just the US and like I know I've got at least like I say like eight or 10 of these. Easy, easy. The late 90s was a high watermark for me in personal technology. I also had a Palm Pilot, a fancy Palm. I was so in love with this thing. I absolutely, I didn't do anything with.
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B
It but play games. What'd you do with it?
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That's a good question. I spent so much time like putting all my contacts in there, I used it as like a note taking device. I had a really Rudimentary art program on there, like, because, remember, it came with the stylus, right? So I would sketch. I would sketch on there. But it was, I don't know if you remember one of the really cool things that it did have cross device communication. It wasn't Bluetooth, it wasn't WI fi, it was an infrared. Oh, my gosh. And you had to literally point it at the other device, you know, like, you know, remote control style, you know, and send information. It was exceedingly slow, but it was cool. And I, you know, I could stand on the subway and, like, send, like, oh, let me send you my contact card, like, to, you know, my friend. And it would, you know, take 20 seconds or whatever. Part of their big success was their writing system. Okay. They succeeded where the Newton, Apple's Newton failed originally in its handwriting recognition system. Oh, what was the name of the palm writing system? It was breakthrough at the time. And I'll give you a hint. It's an Italian word.
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B
Ooh, Michelangelo.
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A
Not a person's name.
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B
Graffito.
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Oh, I'm gonna give it to you. You got it. It's graffiti. Graffiti. Every letter was basically a single stroke. Put the stylus down and the A kind of looked like an A, just without the little crossbar and the, you know, the C. The C was easy. The C looked like a C and the O was easy. But the letters that had multiple lines to it, they simplified. Like the F. The F was basically just a right angle starting at the top, just to the left and down, you know, but it was great. I spent a fair amount of time learning graffiti, and I got pretty good at it.
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On your resume?
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Yeah, exactly. Graffiti expert special skills. Yeah. In 1947, at Harvard University, Grace Hopper, famous famous name in computing science, Grace Hopper and her team entered in their logbooks this quote. And I'm going to leave out a word. You tell me what word is missing. Quote. First actual case of blank being found. What was the blank, Chris?
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C
Bug.
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A
That's right. First actual case of bug being found. And very famously, Chris, what else did they add into the logbook along with this note?
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C
The bug.
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A bug. A moth, to be precise. Yes. Taped into the book. A moth along with them. Yes. Yeah, it is a little bit you. But yeah. So they, you know, again, 1947, this is early, early, early days of computers where you had physical parts moving all over the place and there was a bug physically trapped in a piece preventing information from moving through the computer. So they had to, when they're trying to, you know, figure out what's going on? To debug the system, they had to literally go in and retrieve this, this moth from the system. This poor, poor moth. This log sheet remains preserved today in the Smithsonian National Museum.
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With the moth there?
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With the moth in there not disintegrated? No. Well, you know, I mean, a little worse for wear, but you know, if you were, if you were taped on to a piece of paper, 1947, Karen, you would probably look a lot worse than this moth. Yeah. Sometimes you'll hear this story told as the origin of the term bugs in software or bugs and computers. And, and it. It's not. People were using the term bugs for problems with machinery and technology before this, going back as far as Edison, even, you know, gremlins or bugs in the machine. So there was, there was some precedent for, for the term. Yeah, bugs in. In especially in technology. And with that, I will bring to a close my journey assembled over many days wandering the streets of Palo Alto, California of computers and computer history and peripherals and 3 foot USB cables, enough to choke the earth with. You guys did good. Good job. Thank you for indulging me on this somewhat nerdy venture here.
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C
It's a. It's a surprise. It is the. I'm bringing, I'm bringing it back. It's the off topic music round. We got a music round for everybody and it has nothing to do with computers whatsoever. Yay.
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Love it. Love it.
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So there is a theme. So try to figure out the theme as we're going along. These are all artists that you have 100% heard of. Some of the songs might not be songs that you know, but hopefully you should be able to define the artist artists for some of these by the, by the stylings. Right, okay.
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And perhaps the theme as we move along.
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B
But Colin, let's. We should work together.
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Yeah, yeah.
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B
On a meta level, I think it's weird that Chris is like, oh, I have an off topic surprise music.
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C
No, there's no, no, it's just an off topic surprise music round. I guarantee you nothing crazy Literally, I. It is. It is straight up. Just. I thought of a fun idea.
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I love it.
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B
Okay.
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I think we should absolutely do this as a team, Karen. Okay. Let's. Let's. Let's rock it.
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C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. As a team. Okay, here we go.
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We cover a lot of ground here.
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All right, here we go. Clip number one.
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Could stop you when your heart.
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Bursts like the sun.
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Never, never give up.
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On a dream all right, team.
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A
Okay. It kind of sounds like Journey. Like Rod Stewart, I was gonna say.
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C
Oh, yeah.
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I don't know.
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B
You know, at first I was like, oh, Brian Adams.
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Okay. Yeah. A little bit of the raspy. Yeah, yeah, it's Rod Stewart.
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C
It's Rod Stewart.
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Yes. I didn't recognize the track, though, Karen, but it felt very, like, kind of soundtracky to me. I don't know about you.
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C
I'll incidentally tell you the names of these tracks.
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Okay.
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It doesn't really mean anything. That was called Never Give up on a Dream. Okay.
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Okay.
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C
All right.
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Should we pay attention to the lyrics?
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Nope.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Clip number two.
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I want to say either Chicago and. Or Peter Cetera solo.
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It's Peter Cetera.
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Okay. All right.
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C
It's a Peter Cetera solo.
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Okay.
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That's very.
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So impressed.
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If you know. If you know, the voice is very.
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Yeah.
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Very, very pickable, as Colin did, singer of Chicago at that time.
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Oh. Oh, wow. You nailed it.
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C
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Song was called Dip your wings. Just.
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Just let me. Okay. All right.
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Yeah. Okay. Clip number three.
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This is a sad. Came crashing to the ground.
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There was.
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A tight turning Somewhere deep inside us went all these years together Seem lost.
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Behind my tears I think that is rest in power, Olivia Newton John.
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C
You are correct.
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B
Yes.
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John.
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Again, a placeable. Placeable.
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Yes, yes, Very much so.
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It's called the Rumor. Maybe you don't know the tracks called the Rumor. Yeah.
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A
Okay.
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C
Yeah, we will move right along to clip number.
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B
Okay.
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Four into it, that's for sure.
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Rivers get connected so much stronger than expected. Well.
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That is Red Hot Chili Peppers.
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Very good. Yes, it's Red Hot Chili Peppers. The song's called Sick Love is what it's called.
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A
Okay, that's a more.
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C
That's a more recent one. So sometimes these Chris. These Chris music rounds get a little old. But that's a little more recent.
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I like that. Okay, so it's not soloists, Karen, that. That breaks the street.
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C
No, it's not soloists from bands. Yeah, that's right.
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A
Okay.
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Okay. Track number five.
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These dreams Close my eyes I live another life these dreams that Sleep when it's cold outside.
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What a great song.
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C
Let's just listen to that song.
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B
She still sounds like that. Well, this is heart. Nancy. And Ann Wilson.
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A
And Nancy Wilson.
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These dreams. All right, halfway mark. Let's try track number six.
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Cause I know I let you down in all so many ways Are you.
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Gonna see me now?
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Since we've been on our own.
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Man, My first thought. It kind of felt very like Paul McCartney to me was my first thought.
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I'm baffled that you don't know Colin.
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C
If you need a hint, I would. I would say that we're not worthy to be listening to this artist.
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We're not worthy. Alice Cooper.
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It's Alice Cooper. Oh, my God.
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B
I called it.
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C
Yeah.
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Good one.
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Yeah. How you gonna see me now?
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Nice.
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Yep, yep. We're. We're rolling. We're rolling. We have just four more left. Let's check out track number seven.
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Cause I.
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Know a love that will never grow old.
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And I know.
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A love that will never grow old.
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This one. This one won the 2006 Golden Globe for best original song appearing in a motion picture.
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A
Karen, come on. This is.
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C
Your wheelhouse was in Brokeback Mountain.
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B
Oh, this is Jewel.
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A
Okay, Not Jewel. No. 2006 Mountain.
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Emmylou. No. What is it?
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It's Emmylou Harris.
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Oh, Karen.
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Yes, it's Emmylou Harris.
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A
Wow. Never grow old oh, man, you have. You have censored yourself. You got half of it out. Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna give you the point, Karen, even if Chris doesn't.
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C
So here we go. It's clip number eight. I was born in the north of England.
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I was raised in a working town. I broke all the rules when I.
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Went to school but the teachers couldn't pin me down. I tried to make my parents proud by adapting to the social.
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A
Hilarious. All right, well, I. I feel like I. I got my Beatles dose eventually here. That has got to be. I don't know the song, Chris, but that's got to be Richard Starkey, AKA Ringo Starr.
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C
It is indeed Sir Richard Starkey. The title of the song was Snookaroo. But yes, Ringo Starr, you got your. Did not get your Paul McCartney, but you did get your Ringo Star.
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Too funny. Bless him.
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Yes. Okay, Ringo Star. Ringo Starr. Just two more tracks left to go. We're barreling towards the end of this. Let's check out clip number nine.
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I recognize my face say you don't.
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Care to go to that kind of.
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Place.
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Knee deep in the hoopla Sinking.
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In your fight.
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Too many runaways Eating up the night, one Cody blazing.
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C
All right, now you have one chance to. To get it exactly right. The name of this group.
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B
Starship.
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C
Yes.
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A
No. Thinking I would have sled it out. Jefferson Starship. Jefferson Airplane.
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B
You know, band.
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A
Yeah, they're this.
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C
I mean, more or less.
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A
Yeah. The same band. Yeah.
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B
Okay.
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C
Okay, this. In this iteration, it's Starship. We built this city. All right, just one more clip.
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B
What is this? What is this nonsense?
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C
Let's go ahead and let's see if you can listen to clip 10. And maybe things will come into focus. I don't know, maybe they won't. But here is.
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Tie it all together. Number 10.
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C
Number 10.
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Can you see me, Scarecrow?
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Can you still be free for all.
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A
You love a scarecrow?
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And will you still be there tomorrow?
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And will you still be there tomorrow? Like moths around a light bulb. Is that Sir Elton John?
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C
That is Sir Elton John.
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A
Okay.
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C
Early piano demo, globe of a song called Scarecrow.
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B
Oh, no, that's a stretch. I don't know what the.
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C
I don't know what you're thinking.
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A
All right. I don't know what you're thinking, but no, I don't know.
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B
I was like, oh, you know, wicked. The movie's coming out. There's like, scarecrow, and I see my heart like, you know, the Tin Man.
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C
Yeah. So it's not the titles of the songs. It's not. It's. No, no, it's not wicked. It's not based on that.
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A
Man.
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C
Put this together. I thought of this because I learned this about these dreams. I learned something about the song these dreams. It was very interesting.
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B
Are they all written by Elton John?
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A
Oh, good, good. Yes. Or by. Or by Bernie Taupin, maybe. Right? All written by Bernie Taupin.
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C
Yes.
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A
Oh, my goodness.
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C
Wow. Bernie Taupin is the lyricist who wrote all of the famous Elton John songs. They were very close collaborative partners, but he also wrote songs that were, you know, for other artists or ended up being performed by other artists.
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A
And so that is found.
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C
Every song in this had lyrics written by Bernie Taupin, including these dreams, which I found this out because he. Apparently, he originally wrote the song the these dreams for Stevie Nicks, and she turned it down. She did not want it, and it ended up Stevie. It all comes down to Stevie Nicks. And we built and we built this city.
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A
Also some pretty nice royalty checks, at least coming in is what. Is what you're saying here.
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C
And of course, Elton John, Scarecrow, as you maybe can figure out why I used that one when I could have used hundreds of them. You know why? Because that was the first song they worked on that they did together.
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A
Nice.
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B
Who played him in Rocket Man?
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C
Oh, that's a great every. Yeah, I know my history from.
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B
From biopics.
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A
Hey, you know what? You're not the only one. I love it. So nerdy.
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B
Jamie Bell. Jamie Bell. Oh, Billy Elliott.
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C
Okay.
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B
He was Bernie in Rocket Man.
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A
Okay.
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B
That was a very music for sure.
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Reveal at the end, I think. Yes, but you were. Got you. You were so like, oh, it's gonna be a huge puzzle.
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B
And that's our show. Thank you all for joining me, and thank you, listeners for listening in. Hope you learned stuff about a really bad computer. Hope you learned stuff about AI voices in movies, about the Palm Pilot and other older tech. You can find us on all major podcast apps and on our website, good job, brain.com. this podcast is part of Airwave Media podcast network. Visit airwavemedia.com to listen and subscribe to other shows like Nature Nerds, Mysteries at Midnight, and Aghast at the Past. And we'll see you next week.
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Bye.
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Bye.
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