297: To Market, To Market

Summary

Good Job, Brain! – Episode 297: “To Market, To Market”

Original Airdate: October 8, 2025
Hosts: Karen, Colin, Dana, and Chris
Special Guest: Jennifer Chu (Karen’s sister)

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode, the GJB team celebrates their impending 300th-episode milestone with a special guest: Karen’s sister Jennifer Chu. The episode’s main theme is “markets,” broadly interpreted—from flea markets and nursery rhymes, to global bazaars, plastic bags, and financial markets. True to form, the group delivers a fast-paced, quiz-heavy, trivia-laden episode with plenty of laughs, offbeat facts, and competitive energy. Listeners who love connecting obscure dots and playing along with challenging questions will feel right at home.

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Key Segments & Discussion Highlights

1. Opening Banter & “Egg Corn” Humor (00:15–04:05)

• The crew riffs on “eggcorns”—misheard idioms, with Chris introducing “falling on death’s ear” as a creative twist on “falling on deaf ears.”

  • Quote: “It is as if I am talking to...the Grim Reaper himself. My words are falling on death’s ear.” — Chris (01:13)

• Jennifer arrives, casserole in hand, bringing “big sister energy” and joining the show as a surprise guest.

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2. Random Pop Quiz – Trivial Pursuit (04:11–13:18)

• Rapid-fire general knowledge.
  • Notable Questions & Answers:
    • Largest U.S. seafood festival named after a hairstyle?
      A: Boggy Bayou Mullet Festival, Niceville, Florida – referring to the fish and the haircut. (04:43)
    • Kevin Spacey political drama based on British TV?
      A: House of Cards. (05:42)
    • 19th-century detective agency, “We never sleep”?
      A: Pinkerton Agency. (06:20)
    • Best-selling modern mystery writer (now dead)?
      A: Agatha Christie. (07:11)
    • Online “smart home” network term?
      A: Internet of Things (IoT). (07:35)
    • “Yorker”, “leg break”, and “sticky wicket” are terms from?
      A: Cricket. (07:56)
  • Side conversations about siblings, trivia upbringing, and sibling rivalry.

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3. Meat of the Show: Markets and Marketplaces

a. Motivation: Flea Market Finds (13:23–14:29)

• Chris shares his passion for collecting rare video game paraphernalia at flea markets.
  • Quote: “The haggling and the, you know, trying to get away with something—it’s so much fun. The hobby is acquiring video games...however I can.” — Chris (14:06)

b. Nursery Rhyme Deep Dive: “This Little Piggy Went to Market” (14:43–22:13)

• Chris traces the history and evolving meaning of the “This Little Piggy” nursery rhyme.
  • Dispels a viral online claim that the pig “went to market” to be slaughtered.
  • Finds earlier versions (circa 1904), suggesting it’s about virtues/chores, not death.
    • Quote: “I thought the piggy was pushing a little shopping cart, but people say it meant the pig was taken to be sold. I don’t actually think that’s the case...it’s a virtues and vices poem.” — Chris (18:26-20:10)
  • Touches on related rhymes, oral tradition, and a personal family anecdote.
• Fun fact: The earliest editions tie it to teaching kids about chores and consequences.

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4. Major Quiz Segment: Famous World Markets (22:13–44:09)

Interactive “write down” quiz where each panelist bets coins on their answers:

• Notable Questions & Answers:

  1. Alsmere, Netherlands: world’s largest market for?
     A: Flowers (accept tulips). (24:26)
  2. Queen Victoria Market location (lamingtons, sausage rolls):
     A: Melbourne, Australia. (25:47)
  3. Famous Seattle market incites Ken Jennings to say “sticklers”:
     A: Contestant said “Pike’s Place”; correct answer is “Pike Place Market” (not possessive). (28:07)
  4. Arabic term for a marketplace (not “bazaar”):
     A: Souk. (29:51)
  5. Vienna’s city hall plaza: world’s largest annual market dedicated to?
     A: Christmas markets. (32:32)
  6. First Michelin star for street food; “soya chicken, rice and noodle”:
     A: Singapore. (34:34)
  7. Savile Row’s fictional secret society headquarters in a film:
     A: Kingsman. (37:54)
  8. Grand Bazaar’s location, country officially changed name in 2022:
     A: Türkiye (formerly Turkey). (39:22)
  9. Most expensive item sold at Tokyo’s fish market:
     A: Bluefin tuna (up to $3.1 million). (41:37, 42:25)

• Memorable banter: Jennifer dominates the quiz, humorously accused of having inside help from the host (“quiz show scandal”, 30:41).

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5. Invention Spotlight: The Plastic Bag (47:01–56:56)

• Colin shares the invention story of the plastic shopping bag.
  • Invented by Swedish engineer Sten Gustav Thulin (1959, popularized 1960s).
  • Intention was to save trees (replace paper bags), envisioned as reusable.
  • Rapid adoption, environmental problems, eventual bans.
    • Quote: “His vision was a more environmentally friendly product…You can literally carry it in your pocket when you go shopping.” — Colin (51:39)
  • California’s odd legal loopholes (and closing them in 2026).
  • Discussion of environmental trade-offs: plastic vs. cotton vs. paper totes.

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6. Stock Market Lightning Round (57:25–62:22)

• Quiz on companies with single-letter stock symbols:
  • C (1986): Citigroup
  • V (2008): Visa
  • F (1956): Ford
  • T (1930): AT&T
  • H (2009): Hyatt
  • M (2007): Macy’s
  • U (2020): Unity
  • W (2014): Wayfair
  • Z (Current): Zillow
• Memorable Moment: Karen: “Our favorite hobby is to go on Zillow and check out what you can't buy.” (62:09)

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7. The Casserole Quiz: “Connections”-Style (63:44–77:27)

• Jennifer brings her own uniquely-written “Connections” quiz (inspired by the NYT game).
• Each round features five terms; players identify the outlier and the theme.
• Sample questions and standouts:
  • Disneyland cities: Paris, Las Vegas, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Tokyo
    • Outlier: Las Vegas (no Disneyland; 65:36)
  • Sports franchises: Dallas, Washington DC, Boston, LA, Chicago
    • Outlier: Boston (no WNBA team; 67:09)
  • Animals on national flags: Kangaroo, Eagle, Condor, Lion, Spiny Lobster
    • Outlier: Kangaroo (not on a flag; 68:12)
  • Genericized trademarks: Band-Aid, Popsicle, Ragu, Jello, Kleenex
    • Outlier: Ragu (not a genericized trademark; 69:08)
  • Pantone color of the year: Mocha Moose, Tangerine Tango, Rose Quartz, Moody Smoke, Greenery
    • Outlier: Moody Smoke; (70:07)
• Several other rounds challenge knowledge of U.S. constitutional amendments, Oscars hosting, Star Wars release years, and Eurovision winners.
• Memorable moment: “That was a good, hard quiz…I think if it were better written, it would be only one possibility.” — Jennifer (77:30)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:15 – Episode intro banter & “eggcorns”
• 04:11 – Pop Quiz, Trivial Pursuit style
• 13:23 – Chris's flea market story: segue to “market” theme
• 14:43 – Chris’s deep dive on “This Little Piggy”
• 22:13 – Marketplace World Quiz
• 47:01 – Invention Spotlight: the plastic bag
• 57:25 – Stock Market: One-letter symbols quiz
• 63:44 – Jennifer’s “Connections” quiz (casserole quiz)
• 77:55 – Episode signoff

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Notable Quotes

• “It is as if I am talking to...the Grim Reaper himself. My words are falling on death’s ear.” — Chris (01:13)
• “I thought the piggy was pushing a little shopping cart, but people say it meant the pig was taken to be sold. I don’t actually think that’s the case...it’s a virtues and vices poem.” — Chris (18:26–20:10)
• “His vision was a more environmentally friendly product…You can literally carry it in your pocket when you go shopping.” — Colin (51:39)
• “Our favorite hobby is to go on Zillow and check out what you can't buy.” — Karen (62:09)
• “That was a good, hard quiz…I think if it were better written, it would be only one possibility.” — Jennifer (77:30)

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Memorable & Comic Moments

• Sibling dynamic: Jennifer’s pop culture prowess and childhood trivia rivalries with Karen.
• “Quiz show scandal”: playful accusations as Jennifer dominates the coin-quiz.
• Collective agony and satisfaction at nailing obscure trivia connections, especially in Jennifer’s challenging quiz.

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Episode Takeaways

• Markets aren’t just places to shop—they connect to language, history, invention, stock trading, and more.
• Nursery rhymes often have layered meanings (and don’t always hide dark secrets!).
• Simple inventions like the plastic bag can have huge and unintended worldwide impact.
• Trivia connects everything—from world geography to business to pop culture.
• Play along at home—even seasoned panelists pass sometimes, and everyone learns something new.

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For More Trivia & Play-Along Fun

• Listen to this and previous episodes at goodjobbrain.com
• Engage with the team on all major podcast apps and be ready for episode 300!

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Transcript

[A]

You're listening to an Airwave media podcast.

[B]

Chickadee. Check, check. Cherished chums and cherubic champions, welcome to Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show and offbeat trivia podcast. This is episode 297. And of course, I'm your humble host, Karen. And we are your mellow fellows. Reading Othello, eating portobello jello, and emitting bellows like Tom Morello.

[C]

Hello. I'm Colin.

[D]

And I'm Chris. During the break, I heard another good egg corn that I wanted to share with everybody. If you're just starting to listen to the show today, an egg corn is when somebody says the wrong word, but it sort of makes a weird kind of sense. That's the quick explanation. Here is the egg corn that I heard that I thought was very good. If I was. If. I'm trying, Colin, to tell you something, and I'm trying to get this across to you, and I'm talking and talking and talking, but you're just. Your. Your mind is closed to this, to this new information that I am offering you. And it is as if I am talking to not even a person, not even a brick wall, but I'm just. I am talking to the person who cares the least about this story that I'm telling. The Grim Reaper himself. I'm telling my story, but it doesn't matter because my words are falling on death's ear.

[B]

That's pretty good.

[C]

That's pretty good on death's ears, right?

[D]

Falling on death's ear.

[C]

Why would death care what you have to say?

[D]

Why would he care? He would not care at all. He doesn't care about your story. He doesn't need to listen to your.

[B]

Advice because you might be begging Death be like, don't take me. It's not my time yet.

[D]

He doesn't listen to that. No. Falling on deaf ears is the. Is the phrase D, E, A, F falling on deaf ears? Yes. Death's ear, though. Egg corn. Decider says that's an egg corn.

[B]

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Veruca salt. The good egg bad. Right. Well, this is a trivia podcast. Without further ado, let's jump into our first general trivia segment. Pop.

[D]

Oh, doorbell again. Did somebody order. Did somebody order that hash brown that I owe Karen?

[B]

Well, let's go check it out. Let me walk to the door. Whoa.

[A]

Hello, everyone.

[C]

Hey.

[D]

Oh, hey.

[B]

Why, it's Jennifer Chu, my big sister.

[C]

Your very own sister.

[B]

What are you doing here?

[A]

I heard you guys were heading towards 300, so I came by with a casserole to celebrate. Oh, nice.

[C]

What's in it?

[A]

Oh, broccoli and cheddar.

[D]

Oh, well, send that right over here.

[C]

Yeah, that thing's not making it out alive.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

It's going to be gone by the end of this recording.

[D]

Well, thank you. Thank you for the casserole. Yeah, we'll get the dish back to you, but we are recording a podcast right now, so we do need you to. Unless you're. Are you doing anything right now?

[A]

Not really. I mean, I could stay. I could hang out on your couch and stick around.

[D]

Okay, sure. Well, why don't you stick around for the show?

[B]

We're about to jump into our first general trivia segment. Do you want to join us?

[A]

You know, I just happen to have a buzzer with me, so I think I can.

[B]

Heck, yeah. All right, it's time for pop quiz, hotshot.

[D]

Wait, can I hear. Can I hear the buzzer? My daughter, when she sneezes, she goes like. And I'm like, It's so unsatisfying.

[B]

That's what I do. I keep it in.

[A]

Why?

[B]

I don't know. Because I don't want to spread germs everywhere.

[C]

It makes my skin crawl when someone, like, stifles a sneeze.

[D]

Really?

[C]

I was like, ah, just let it out. It just. It wants to be free. Let that sneeze out.

[B]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think it comes with age or it comes from being a dad. Cameron sneeze has evolved into a very loud explosion.

[D]

You're not doing a dad sneeze. Making everybody wonder if there was like an earthquake or something like that.

[C]

You're.

[D]

You're doing it wrong.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. A sneeze with a wind up.

[A]

It's one of the rights.

[B]

All right, well, you guys have your buzzers. Jennifer has a baby sneeze. Colin's got the horse. Chris has the rooster. And I here have a random Trivial Pursuit card. Let's answer some questions. Here we go. Blue wedge for geography. Which seafood festival in Niceville, Florida, celebrates a fish that shares its name with a decades old hairstyle?

[C]

Okay, fish, old hair, hairstyle.

[B]

You have two rolo decks going in your head.

[D]

It's like a slot machine. The fish reel is going over here. The hairstyle reel is going over here. See if they match up. Looks like Jennifer got it. Maybe.

[A]

Is it a mullet?

[B]

It is a mullet. Mullet here says thousands of hungry mullet fans flock to the Boggy Bayou Mullet Festival each year.

[C]

Wow. And I believe the way the festival is set up Is the. The. The business is in the front.

[D]

I know where you're going to say, hey, you, and.

[C]

And the party is in the back. You had to. Had to. Barely contain myself.

[B]

God, you're crying. Pink wedge for entertainment. Which political drama that stars Kevin Spacey is based on a 1990 British television miniseries?

[C]

Colin, That's House of Cards.

[B]

House of Cards, correct. Jennifer, before we move ahead, what would you say is your. Your strong categories and trivia?

[A]

I would say generally pink. So, like, entertainment. I know just enough about sports to, like, kind of be on the surface. I know some random literary facts not great in history or geography.

[B]

All right, so Jennifer watches, like, a lot of tv. Like, a lot.

[C]

I mean, the pink wedge covers a lot of cultural knowledge. It really does. You need someone like that on your team.

[B]

Yellow, white for history. We never sleep was the slogan of which famous 19th century American detective agency, Chris?

[D]

I mean, the Pinkerton Agency.

[B]

Yes, correct. Okay, full title. Pinkerton's National Detective Agency.

[D]

Okay, all right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

As if you remember.

[D]

Detective Agency.

[C]

I can think, right. Who else is it? Yeah.

[D]

Eddie Valiant.

[B]

Purple wedge for arts and literature. Which mystery writer is the best selling modern novelist?

[C]

Mystery writer.

[B]

The modern. Kind of weird. This person's dead, by the way.

[D]

Okay, yeah, yeah. I think it means modern, not like contemporary, but.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

The modern era of literature.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Chris.

[D]

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

[B]

Incorrect.

[D]

Okay, giving Jennifer a chance.

[B]

Jennifer.

[A]

Agatha Christie.

[B]

Agatha Christie. Green wedge for science and nature. What term is used for the online connection of smart household devices such as central heating controls or light bulbs?

[C]

Whoa, Colin, are they just looking for Internet of things? Is that what they're looking for? Okay, all right.

[B]

Iot, Iot, Iot. Internet of things. Things.

[C]

Try not to overthink it.

[B]

And we have orange wedge. Everybody's favorite sports and leisure. Let's hope it's leisure.

[A]

Let's hope it's hockey.

[B]

We know this. In which sport can you hear the terms Yorker, leg break and sticky wicket, Chris?

[D]

Cricket.

[B]

Cricket, yes. We had a segment about sticky wicket.

[D]

Sticky wicket.

[B]

Well, Jennifer here is my older sister, Colin. You have a Gen X.

[C]

And we got some good older sibling energy here. Well, I guess Chris has older sibling energy, too.

[D]

I do. I am the older sibling. I'm also Gen X. Yeah, you're like, in between. I was born in 1980. I was right at the tail end.

[B]

Okay, we're on the.

[C]

We're on the outer edge. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And more importantly, she has all the dirt on you, Karen.

[A]

Yeah, she's already exposed my dirt on the podcast. I feel like listeners May remember me from such hits as My sister has a security blanket.

[B]

She still has it.

[C]

She's not saying it's false. She's just saying that you're just, you know, airing. Right? Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I would say she is my Truvia hero. I think she inspired me a lot to mostly read encyclopedia, try to beat me, try to beat her. Or I used to hustle her on our Ms. Doc Lost Jeopardy game where I just memorized all the answers to beat her. And she's like, that's really weird for. For a six year old to do that.

[A]

We used to play Million Wear. Not Jeopardy. But Million wear, which was kind of a knockoff Jeopardy.

[B]

Well, it was her dream. It's. It's her dream to get on Jeopardy.

[A]

I think early on I've tried out twice. I've passed the online quiz and got to the in person tryout once.

[B]

I don't know. It's too hard now.

[A]

It's hard.

[B]

Well, we're happy you're here joining us as our guest and props to you. It's 9pm for us on West coast time. She lives in D.C. so she's here at midnight.

[A]

I'm in the future. It's Saturday for me.

[B]

That was fun. Let's do another card. Let's do another card. Let's go. Crazy road to 300. More trivia, the better. Here we go. Another card. Blue Edge for geography. In which city are the Bluebird Cafe, the Ryman Auditorium, and Grimy's located? Oh, Jennifer.

[A]

Nashville.

[B]

Yes, Nashville. How do you know that?

[A]

I've been there. I haven't been to those places, but I've been in Nashville also. Nashville is like the bachelorette party capital of America.

[C]

Oh, is that so?

[B]

All right, next question. Pink wedge for Entertainment. In the 1960s, citizens of Point Pleasant, West Virginia, were spooked by which mythical creature with red eyes and wings. What's there?

[D]

What?

[C]

Yeah. What's their folk monster? Right. Oh, I'm sure we've talked about this. Unlike cryptids.

[B]

Chris.

[D]

Chupacabra.

[B]

No wings. It's not mammalian.

[D]

Okay, okay. Right.

[C]

And it's not. It's too far south. It's not. But it is the Jersey Devil. It's. Oh, okay. Humanoid.

[B]

It is Mothman.

[C]

Oh, yes.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

Which. The sightings are the subject of the Mothman prophecies. All right, Yellow Edge for history. President Fillmore installed the first bathtub in the White House in 1850. True or false?

[D]

The first bath. What? The bathroom. Bathtub.

[B]

Bathtub.

[D]

Bathtub. Bathtub. 1850.

[B]

Colin. True it is false. But here's the interesting bit. A journalist in 1917 published this as a hoax, but people keep citing this fact.

[C]

Oh, fake trivia.

[B]

Yeah. Purple White. For arts and literature, which two Broadway stars originated the roles of Elphaba and Glinda in the stage production of Wicked? Let's do it, Chris.

[D]

Why?

[B]

Well, you name one.

[D]

Sure, I'll, I'll go. I'll say Kristen Chenoweth originated the role of Glinda.

[A]

And Jennifer Idina Menzel originated the role.

[B]

Of Elphaba, who made cameos in the new movie as well.

[D]

Indeed.

[B]

Green wedge for science and Nature, which smartphone Pioneer announced in 2016 that it would stop making its updated classic keyboard model? Chris?

[D]

BlackBerry.

[B]

Yes, it is BlackBerry. And here we have the last question. Orange wedge for Sports and Leisure. Which WNBA franchise won the league's first four championships?

[D]

As I set my buzzer down.

[B]

All right, it's all you, Colin.

[C]

I feel like, I feel like my brain is 50. 50. Was it, was it the Comets?

[B]

Was it Houston Comet?

[C]

Awesome. That's great.

[A]

That was a good one.

[B]

Another pop quiz. What's the newest WNBA franchise?

[A]

Oh, the Valkyries.

[C]

Yes, they're quite the buzz here.

[B]

They got a mascot that got birthed out of an egg. It was much fan favorite.

[C]

Well, how did you get birth, Char?

[D]

As close listeners of the show probably know, one of my hobbies is collecting video games, which means, amongst other things, I'm at the flea markets a lot.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Now, because there's been such high profile sales of high dollar video games, everybody at the flea market is looking for games. But here's the thing. I have the advantage. And the advantage that I have is I actually know about video games. So there are things that people would look at at the flea market and their eyes would pass right over it. Somebody had like just a box for an Atari 2600 game. But I look at that, I'm like, that's really, I've never seen that before. That is super rare. I'm like, how much is that? It's like dollar. Like, here you go.

[C]

Sold.

[D]

The haggling and the, you know, the trying to, you know, trying to get away with something. It's so much fun. I mean, it's really the hobby is acquiring video games for my collection whatever way I can. Yeah, flea markets are like one way to do it. But it's certainly something that we thought, wow, well, that would be an interesting topic for one of these shows, which would be just like the idea of the market.

[B]

So this week, to market, to market.

[D]

To market, To. To market.

[B]

I don't even know where that's from.

[D]

Oh, it's. It's from a nursery rhyme. Yeah. In which they say, well, it starts. To market, to market to buy a fat pig. Home again, home again, jiggity jiggity jig, jiggity jig. Now, that is not the market and pig related nursery rhyme that I want to discuss. So let's put that aside for a bit.

[B]

Okay? Okay.

[D]

So we all grow up hearing these words. Weird, weird, old, old, weird nursery rhymes that our parents recite to us or we find them in a book or whatever it is, and we don't really question what they mean sometimes. And then as adults, sometimes we start hearing those stories. You remember that nursery rhyme that we heard when we were kids? They have hidden morbid meanings to them. Like this one was about plague, or this one was about somebody dying, or this one was about the king getting assassinated. Or this is how they made fun of this, you know, public figure without mentioning him, that sort of thing. So I recently heard something about this nursery rhyme that I would. I'm going to recite for you.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

This is the version that you would typically hear. All right? This little piggy went to market. This little piggy stayed home. This little piggy had roast beef. This little piggy had none. And this little piggy cried wee, wee, wee all the way home. Now, typically, this would be read while clutching a baby's toes, right? In order. This little piggy. Then you end up with a little toe for the piggy that cried wee, wee, wee all the way home.

[B]

Yep, yep, yep.

[D]

Not sure why that little piggy is doing that Now. What I see a lot of these days is there'll be some Internet post and people are like, oh, it just dawned on me what this little piggy went to market means. I thought the piggy was carrying a little, like, pushing a little shopping cart, going to the market, buying his food, but it must be a little pig went to market. Like they. They slaughtered the pig and they took him to the market to sell him. And then the one that stayed home wasn't ready to be killed yet. And the one who had roast beef was being fattened up for next week. And oh, my God, my. My childhood is ruined now. I read this, I'm like, I don't actually think that's the case. Do they feed the pigs roast beef? Where did this come from? But also, I just. I had no idea what this poem was even supposed to be. What's the piggy at the you know, if that's all the case, what's the piggy at the end doing? You know, crying all the way home? Like, is it a thinly veiled reference to, like, the British government of the 1800s? Like, I don't. I don't know. The pig is Winston Churchill. So I had. I had to, like. I, like, go do some research. Right. Okay. So I start reading this poem, which is called this Little Pig. This poem dates back to at least the 1700s, and it seems to have been, even from its earliest age, associated with, like, babies and counting on their. Their toes. Right. It appeared in a 1700s book that was called Tommy Thumb's Songbook. And there are various versions of this very, very old book that are scanned and preserved online, But I could not find a version with this poem in it, unfortunately. And this is not ideal, because a lot of these old nursery rhymes are an oral tradition, right? They evolve over time. They lose the original lines and the meanings. The words change, and you don't actually know anymore what it actually was supposed to represent. So you got to go back, back, back to, like, these old printed versions and see the words that are. So I did find a version that's dated to the early 1900s that is different enough that I think kind of explains what's. What's going on here and a little. A little bit better, right? 1904.

[C]

All right. The modern era.

[D]

Yes, the modern era. This pig went to market. That pig stayed at home. This pig had roast meat. That pig had none. This pig went to the barn door and cried, weak, weak. For more. So now I start to get it. This is a virtues and vices poem. It's like goofus and gallon contrasting. This pig got his ass out of bed and went shopping and did his chores, and this pig did not. Meanwhile, this pig got to have roast meat because he went to the market and he bought his stuff, and that pig didn't have anything because he. No. And then I think it's maybe three. I think it's three pigs. I think it's two pigs. And then the pig at the end, the fifth pig is the pig who didn't do anything, but also isn't content with having nothing because he went to the barn door and was going asking, begging for stuff. So it's like, what pig do you want to be? Do you want to be the pig who does his work and gets to eat not roast beef, but roast meat, you know, some kind of other meat? Or do you want to be the pig that's, like, crying at the barn door. Now, maybe if we were to track this all the way back to the 1700 version, which unfortunately I was not able to do, there might be a little bit more in there. Maybe there's more lines or something like that. Who, who knows? But that seems to be the idea. Wow.

[C]

Clearly connected. I mean, there's, there's no doubt. I mean, that's, that's a step on the path to where we ended up. Right.

[D]

Exactly. Now there's some other virtues and vices. Poems from the Tommy Thumbs. Tommy Thumbs songbook from the 1700s is good reading hanger. It's, it's, it is hot. You got to read this book. One of them is called, it's called Liar, Liar, lick spit. All right. 1788.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

Liar, liar, lick, spit. Turnabout the candlestick. What's good for liars? Brimstone and fires. That's the whole thing. Want to be really clear? You're supposed to sing these songs to your children to put them to sleep.

[B]

To me, it almost sounded like Liar, liar, pants on fire. Yeah.

[D]

Oh, sure. Absolutely. I mean, I, I, I, I can't draw a connection. Yeah. Right now. But it's entirely possible that you could. Yeah. So we can at least say based on this research that the little piggy did not get killed at the market and that he did in fact go to the market with his little basket to buy roast meat. Roast of Roast meat of what?

[C]

Yeah, roast meat.

[D]

I should not end this without mentioning the version that my son recited when he was 2 years old and we were eating dinner and he put his foot up on the table and started grabbing his toes and he started going, this little piggy is one. This little piggy is two. And then did that whole thing all the way until this Little Piggy is 10. No, 11.

[B]

When you recite the piggy poem, like, I instantly in my head I see a fat foot. Or, or I see five pigs, like, in my mind. And it never occurred to me that it's comparing two pigs.

[D]

It's two and a half pigs. It's two pigs potentially with a third, like out of nowhere, pig at the end. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

Yep. Yep. So how many little piggies? Two, maybe three.

[C]

Yeah, two. Ish.

[B]

All right, I have a quiz. A quiz about famous marketplaces around the world. Around the world. We like eating, we like shopping, we like traveling.

[D]

We do, like, those things.

[B]

This will be an experiment because I don't know if mathematically this will work, but we'll see. This will be a write down quiz. I'M going to ask you a couple questions. Here's the game. Each one of you will start with 10 coins. 10 pieces of fake currency. 10 coins. We're going to the markets. We're going to spend or maybe earn more coins. Write down an answer and you get a question right, you get 10 additional coins. If you answer it wrong, you will have.

[A]

You will split it.

[B]

You will lose 50% of what you currently have. And if you pass, nothing happens.

[D]

Okay. All right.

[C]

All right.

[D]

So it's always. It's always a bet. Yeah.

[B]

These questions are very interesting. I would say they skew a little bit on the hard side, but I think I've put enough clues and I feel like you guys are all very smart people. You can figure it out. And then the winner will get an actual prize. Whoever ends up with the most amount of coins at the end of this round will get a real prize from me. Sweet listeners, if you want to play along, keep track of your. Your quote coins. And here we go. Question number one. Don't forget, if you get right, you get plus 10 points. If you get wrong, you lose half of what you have. And then if you pass, you get. Nothing happens. You get zero. All right, here we go. In the town of Alsmere, Netherlands, you can find the biggest market dedicated to what? In the town of Alsmere, that's a a L S m e E R. Almere, Netherlands, you can find the biggest market dedicated to what? All right, write down your answers, please. Lock it in. Chris, are you locked in?

[D]

Yeah, I'm locked in.

[B]

Jennifer, what do you have?

[A]

I have tulips.

[B]

Colin.

[C]

I also have tulips.

[D]

Chris, I did not write down anything.

[B]

Oh, the correct answer is flowers, but I will accept tulips. The biggest flower auction and flower market. In fact, it is so big to accommodate all the flowers and people. It is the 9th largest building in the world by floor area.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

So it's huge.

[A]

Imagine if you're allergic.

[D]

Why did I come here?

[C]

And where's the exit? Oh, I'm right in the middle. It's.

[A]

I'm in the 9th largest building.

[B]

Good job. Next question. You can get local goodies like lamingtons and sausage rolls at the Queen Victoria market, located in what populous city in its country. You can get local goodies like lamingtons and sausage rolls at the Queen Victoria market, located in what most populous city in its country. Too hard?

[A]

Should I.

[C]

No. Oh, I hope not. I already wrote my answer down.

[B]

Throw me a bone here. No. Okay. All right. Lock in. Jennifer. Take it away.

[A]

Sydney, Colin, what you put?

[C]

I put London.

[B]

Chris, what you put?

[D]

I put nothing.

[B]

The correct answer is Melbourne, Australia.

[C]

I was.

[A]

I was debating between the two.

[C]

I was. I was. I was debating between England and Australia. Yeah, I. I was not even close to close. But you were close to close for our Australian friends.

[B]

I know they get ticked off when we pronounce Melbourne instead of Mel Bun, but I feel like I'm, like, pretending to have an accent, and to me it sounds. I'm being rude, so I'm just gonna pronounce it Melbourne. And I completely understand it's with an Australian accent. It sounds Melbourne. All right. Woo. Here we go. Next question. Very recently, after a Jeopardy. Contestant gave a wrong answer, Ken Jennings responded by saying, no, sorry, Dan, we are sticklers in Seattle. What was the incorrect answer that was given? Again, this is a round about marketplaces in the world. Let me read the question again. Very recently, after a Jeopardy. Contestant gave a wrong answer, Ken Jennings responded by saying, no. Sorry, Dan. We are sticklers in Seattle. What was the incorrect answer that was given? Ken Jennings, host of and also big winner of Jeopardy. He's from Utah, but he lives in the Seattle area.

[A]

It's like, do you want to guess and risk money or not? This is hard.

[C]

But, hey, look, like Jennifer, we've been up and down, and we're still right where Chris is right, you know? So let's. We gotta go big here. All right. I'm.

[D]

I should bet it all. Yeah. Make it a true daily double cam.

[C]

I'm trying to decide if Karen is doing some reverse psychology, but I know you're just relating the story of what happened.

[D]

All right.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

All right. Got my answer down.

[B]

I'm pretty sure you know what a famous marketplace in Seattle is called, but what is the wrong answer that was given?

[D]

Well, yeah, I know the correct answer that.

[B]

That made Ken Jennings say, we are sticklers in Seattle. All right.

[C]

Okay. Huh?

[B]

Time's up, Jennifer.

[C]

Okay. I just changed my answer. Okay, go ahead.

[A]

Oh, I know. Was it. Did the person say Pike's Place? Market.

[C]

Pike Market.

[B]

Chris, would you put nothing?

[D]

He's gonna win.

[C]

He's gonna win. Not having guessed a single question. Yeah, Nothing.

[B]

The correct wrong answer that the contestant gave was Pike's Place. Yes. It is not a possessive. It's not. I'm Mr. Pike.

[D]

Right, right, right.

[B]

Yeah, it is just Pike Place.

[C]

Okay. All right, all right, all right. So having my points now.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

What a. What a roller coaster.

[C]

Here we go.

[B]

Next question.

[D]

How many questions are there?

[B]

Six. Six more questions. Six More questions.

[D]

Six more questions. Okay. Okay.

[C]

All right.

[B]

What Arabic term is often used to describe markets in the Middle east and North Africa, especially markets selling spices and gold? Hint. It is not bizarre. B A Z A A R. It is not bizarre, which comes from Persian and is used to describe markets in Central Asia. So let me read again. What Arabic term is often used to describe markets in the Middle east and North Africa, especially markets selling spices and gold? It is not bazaar, which is of Persian origin and used to describe markets in Central Asia. So if you're in Central Asia, it's bizarre. If you're in North Africa, Middle east, it's called this. All right, that's good Scrabble word. All right, here we go. Answers up.

[A]

Jennifer Suk S O U K. Okay.

[C]

Colin, I'm taking a page from the Kohler playbook and big old Pass.

[A]

Pass.

[B]

All right, Chris.

[D]

Would someone please pass the butter?

[B]

The correct answer. I'm sorry, Colin and Chris. It is souk. She got it.

[C]

Nice. Well done.

[D]

I have vaguely heard that word before, but I was never going to come up with it. So passing was the, was the right play.

[A]

You know, it's good thing I watched Sex in the City.

[B]

I was the movie.

[C]

Now the secret comes out from Sex.

[B]

In the city 2. Not the first movie, the sequel. Feature film.

[A]

The offensive Sequel.

[B]

Yes. Where they go to Abu Dhabi. She leaves her passport while buying shoes at the souk. Yes, of course.

[C]

Got the sister mind meld going here.

[D]

I know. I would like to raise a awareness of the fact that I, I think that the quiz master and one of the contestants on this show may have an undisclosed prior relationship.

[A]

It's a quiz show scandal.

[B]

Next question. Held annually, the Plaza outside Vienna City hall hosts the world's largest market. Dedicated to what? Held annually, once per year, the Plaza outside of Vienna City hall hosts the world's largest market. Dedicated to what? No, I'm not saying selling. What?

[C]

What do you mean?

[A]

What do you mean?

[D]

What do you mean?

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

What do you mean?

[B]

Are you Jennifer Lawrence? What do you mean?

[C]

What do you mean not dedicated? What else do you mean? You mean physically largest or what do you mean not dedicated to selling? I'm not sure.

[B]

I'm not asking like what product it's selling.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Annually, the Plaza outside of Vienna City hall hosts the world's largest market. Dedicated to what?

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Huh. Is this like, like a, like a philosophical concept? Like, like a, like a person? I, I, I'm, I'm just, I'm, I'm flailing here a little like dedicated to, but it's not the thing that they sell.

[B]

All right, people locked in. Sure, Colin, Locked in. All right, Jennifer, what you got?

[A]

You can't sell the spirit of Christmas.

[B]

Good. Good answer, Colin.

[C]

I put. I put sausage.

[D]

You could just eat Vienna sausages.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

They all got little cans.

[B]

They open them up.

[C]

That's right.

[B]

Sausages. Even Viennese.

[C]

Probably not.

[B]

Probably not, Chris.

[D]

I decided to take a chance and write an answer. And I put Christmas.

[B]

Yeah, Christmas, Christmas markets. But this is the biggest one is in Austria.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

I have a point of order question for you, Karen. Are we. Are we rounding up points here? So do I. Do I have two and a half or do I have three?

[D]

You.

[B]

I'll see how I feel.

[D]

Okay, well, it's money. It's money. So you have.

[B]

So I can.

[D]

Yeah, you have two coins and a half coin.

[C]

Okay. All right.

[D]

You have a. Hey, Penny.

[C]

Yeah, thanks.

[B]

Chris Farthing.

[C]

Thanks. Thanks for lobbying on my behalf there.

[B]

We got more questions. We got.

[C]

She never said these were decimal based coins.

[B]

Oo. Foodie question here. The first ever Michelin star awarded to a street vendor is for the dish called soya chicken, rice and noodle. The stall that sells this is located in what country? The first ever Michelin star that was given to a street vendor. So not fancy food. A real Michelin star that was given to a, like a street food stall was for a dish called soya chicken, rice and noodle. And this stall is located in what country, Chris? Not that long ago, him and his wife were on a mission to eat the stars. To eat the stars. You guys had a lot of stars? We did okay.

[D]

We did okay. It honestly stopped for me when we went to a expensive Michelin starred restaurant in San Francisco and it sucked. And I was like, you know, turns out that we should just, you know, probably not necessarily follow where the Michelin stars are and just eat good food when I go to, in and out. So anyway.

[B]

All right, answer is locked in. Jennifer, what'd you put?

[A]

I put Singapore.

[B]

Oh, so you did answer. Okay, Colin, I'm going.

[C]

Trick question. I'm putting America. Oh, like it's in like, like somewhere, you know, like New York or something.

[B]

Got it. Very good guess.

[D]

As I said, I am a market expert here. I just got another 10 coins in my pocket. I'm not. I'm not risking them taking a flyer. So I pass again.

[B]

Smart man. I kind of left out. The dish has a full name which is called Hong Kong Soya Chicken. Yeah. Located in Singapore.

[C]

Amazing. Amazing.

[B]

So that's 1.25.

[C]

It's like, okay, so got a coin and a quarter.

[D]

Is. Is Jennifer running away with it? Yes.

[B]

Hey, if she, if she lose it, all I.

[D]

All I can say is I feel like I am playing my perfect game by not guessing when I have absolutely no idea what the answer is.

[A]

You're playing the long game.

[B]

Just to recap, let's do a quick scores recap. We have three more questions. Jennifer has 50 coins, Colin has 1.25, and then Chris has 20 coins. We have three questions. So if Jeffrey and decides to answer and gets it wrong, then half of it is gone. And Chris, if you decide to answer correctly. I'm not decide. If you do answer correctly the next three questions, then you can catch up.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Let's see. Karen, I think I'm in the driver's seat here.

[A]

You could be the spoiler because.

[C]

That's right. I'm playing free here. Chris. Chris knows I have to answer each time.

[D]

That's true. You have nothing to worry about at this point. You are incentivized to put down whatever the high variance.

[B]

But also, Colin, you're in a, like a, like a Zeno's paradox situation when you, you know, where technically you can keep having.

[D]

You'll never reach zero.

[C]

Well, yeah, I tried to raise this question earlier because I sort of saw the writing on the wall, but. Yeah, that's all right. We'll deal with what. What comes.

[B]

Okay, next question. London's Savile Row has been the go to neighborhood for bespoke suit tailors. It's also the headquarters for what fictional secret society featured in a film with the same name. London's Savile Row has been the go to neighborhood for bespoke suit tailors. All the celebrities get their custom fit suits, tradition tailors, artisan craft. It's also the headquarters for what fictional secret society featured in a film with the same name.

[C]

Oh, right. Oh, dang it. I got a chance to make up some points here. What are those movies called?

[B]

I like purposely made. If you get it correct, you get plus 10 points. Because if it's double points when you. You're doubling a small amount, it doesn't get you anywhere.

[C]

It doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't. Doesn't catch up. Also, though, the key is you need to remember the answers too. You're serving it up for me too. I'm so angry right now.

[D]

What are these?

[B]

Would it be helpful if I gave you the director?

[C]

No. I mean, I've seen them. I can Picture the movies. I can. I can. Okay. What is it called?

[A]

Picture the lead actor saying it.

[C]

Okay. Okay. That's good advice. Right.

[B]

Jennifer, what do you have here?

[A]

Kingsman, Colin.

[C]

Ah, I couldn't come up with it. I couldn't pull it. I, I. Yeah.

[B]

Do a pass.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Chris.

[D]

Never heard of it. My life. Pass.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

The correct answer is Kingsman. You didn't need to give me the colon part. Which Kingsman? Colon. Secret Service.

[C]

Secret Service, yeah.

[B]

Starring Eggsy Taron Egerton.

[C]

Violent.

[A]

Very violent.

[B]

Elton Johnson. The second one. Next question. The Grand Bazaar is one of the largest and oldest covered markets in the world. That's a big G and a big B. The Grand Bazaar is one of the largest and oldest covered markets in the world. Located in what current country that went through an official name change in 2022. So your answer is the current name of this country where the Grand Bazaar is located, touted as the largest and oldest covered markets in the world.

[C]

Country went through a name change in 2022.

[B]

Very recent. Very recent. It used to be called one thing, but now they're calling it another thing. I guess that is the definition of thank you.

[C]

Oh, thanks for the hint. Okay. Okay. I'm just trying to think of countries that changed their name rather than countries that I associate with large grand markets. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right.

[B]

Walk in. All right, Jennifer, what do you have?

[A]

I have turkey. I believe that's how it's now pronounced.

[C]

Turkey.

[B]

Turkey. Colin.

[C]

Yeah, Good answer. I put Czechia.

[B]

Chris.

[D]

Nothing.

[C]

Pass.

[B]

Pass. Okay. The correct answer is turkey. Turkey. No longer called turkey. Now turkey.

[C]

Forgot about that.

[B]

R, K, I, Y, E. Turkey. A.

[C]

Some news organizations honor it. A lot of them still don't.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, last question here. Should we make it interesting?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

I feel like Jennifer has no reason why she would want to make this interesting, whereas Colin and I are like. Yeah, like, as interesting as possible.

[C]

I think, I think we. I think you have to answer no pass on this question.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That's interesting. I like that. All right, last question.

[C]

Oh.

[D]

What are the standings?

[B]

Jennifer has 70 coins. Colin has 0.625 coins.

[C]

Coin of a coin.

[B]

And Chris has 20 coins. You have to answer for this. Here we go. Well, that means Jennifer's gonna win.

[D]

Well, yeah, yeah.

[C]

No matter what. But just judge to make it fun.

[D]

This hasn't been fun.

[B]

Here we go. Last question. The most expensive thing sold at the famous Tokyo fish market is usually what? The fish market. There's a name, but I just want to clear. There's like the old classic fish market, and then there's like a new location.

[D]

They moved it.

[B]

Yeah, they moved it. So this is like, collectively in the history of the Tokyo fish market.

[A]

It's like a thing, right? Like, not the spirit of it.

[B]

Not the spirit of Christmas.

[C]

Right, right.

[B]

It is. It is the you kindness. You can even be very specific. The most expensive thing sold at the famous Tokyo fish market is usually what? You know what? I'll give you a clue. It is a fish.

[C]

Yeah. Okay.

[D]

Oh, appreciate it.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

Well, I mean, what if you put caviar, you know?

[C]

No, no, no, that's fair.

[B]

It's totally true.

[D]

Right, right.

[B]

Jennifer, what'd you put?

[A]

Bluefin tuna.

[B]

Okay. Colin.

[C]

I also put tuna.

[B]

Chris.

[D]

I put tuna.

[B]

The correct answer is bluefin tuna. Everybody got it. Tuna as well. Fun story about this. This usually happens at their annual prestigious New Year's auction. People want to buy the first big bluefin tuna catch of the year. Oh, this is a lucky thing. And I'm willing to spend money. And you also get a lot of media coverage out of it. You got photographers, you got reporters. So if, you know, you're the owner of some sushi chain restaurant, you're like, oh, I'm the one who spent $3 million buying this bluefin tuna. You're going to be all over the news.

[C]

Got it, Got it.

[B]

So you're also kind of buying publicity as well. How expensive are we talking about? The record happened in 2019 for $3.1 million.

[D]

What?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And then for a.

[B]

For a.

[D]

First of all, they're big. I mean, that's a lot of money. Yeah, they're really big.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

And when you're. When you're buying it like that, it's like that person. It is entirely possible that they. They probably made their money back.

[C]

Yeah, I see. Yeah. Right, Right.

[D]

Because they sell this. They sell this much of it for like 20 bucks, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So that was Number one. Number two actually happened just this year. Sold for a $1.3 million. And in the news headlines, it described that this tuna was the size of a motorcycle.

[C]

That's great. That does really help you visualize it.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. So now I'm like, equating, like, okay. Even though it's 1.3 in my head, I'm like, $1 million equals a motorcycle fish.

[A]

Like, I wonder how long it takes for them to get that big. Like, I wonder how old the tuna was.

[B]

Oh, interesting. I bet we can look that up. Tuna's caught at the ages between 3 and 15 depending on the species. Age is estimated by analyzing the annual growth rings in the tuna's ear bones, similar to counting tree rings. That's cool. All right, good job everybody.

[C]

Woo. Jennifer destroy.

[B]

Jennifer destroyed. Everybody. 80 coins. Congratulations. With 80 coins, I'm gonna give you 80 hash browns.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

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[D]

You're listening to Good job Brain. Smooth puzzles, smart trivia. Good job, Brain.

[B]

Hey, we're back and we're on the road to 300. We got a special visitor today. Jennifer. My big sister is here. She just smoked everybody in that last quiz. And this week we're talking about markets.

[C]

We love to talk about these. I got a world famous invention. I've got an inventor maybe with mixed feelings about their creation. Oh, you know, Chris, like you, I as well kind of got to thinking about some childhood memories here. As I was brainstorming for, for this show, I settled on a very, very great 1980s memory. I was very young. I came across, I don't remember what magazine it was in the cheap and easy tricks for DIY toys. You know, like stuff you can build from, you know, paper plates or straws or whatever you happen to have, you know, around your kitchen. Right. And so what I found was how to, how to make your own paratrooper out of household stuff that you would have around. Okay. You would need, you know, a regular action figure. You need some string and then you need a standard plastic shopping bag. And you tie the string to the plastic shopping bag handles, tie the other end around, you know, under the armpits of your figure and toss it up in the air or off your parents roof or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Your mom asks what you're doing, you tell her, don't worry about it. If your family was like mine, you had somewhere in your kitchen you had a drawer or a cabinet. Inside that drawer or cabinet was a, just an unreasonable amount of plastic shopping bags.

[B]

Yes. Like a nest.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, like a den of plastic.

[B]

We do, we do plastic bags in a plastic bag.

[C]

They're more comforted that way, you know. Right, right. Yeah. It makes, it reminds them of their youth. So, so when I asked my mom like, oh, can I use a plastic shopping bag? She's yeah, like knock yourself out here, don't worry about it. We're good on plastic shopping bags.

[D]

Not as a space helmet, but otherwise.

[C]

Right. All right, now just to make sure we're all clear what I'm talking about here, all right? I, I, I'm not just talking about any bag that happens to be made of plastic. I am talking about the very classic, very particular super thin one. Sheet. It is handles shaped out of the sheet, welded at the bottom, Truly ubiquitous. You find this item all around the world. There's not a country that has not been touched by, it's not going away by the, yeah, it's not going away. So, so let's talk about that a little bit. We'll get into that. When do you guys think the. The modern plastic bag as we know it was invented?

[A]

The early seventies, I would say.

[B]

Seventies as well.

[D]

Yeah, I would, I would say that, yeah. Okay.

[B]

Because before then it would be like a basket, the paper bag with no hand, you know, with the bread coming out.

[C]

Right, right. But it was in the mid-1960s that the modern plastic bag as we know it came to be. It was invented by a Swedish engineer named Sten Gustav Tulin, and he was a package designer. And this was his job, designing packaging and package materials and things like that. And as far back as 1959, he had the idea for what became the plastic bag as we know it. And when the plastic bag, which was thinner but stronger, lighter, cheaper, came onto the market, it very, very quickly. Within just a few years, 80% of the bag market had become plastic. In Europe, in 1982, the two biggest American grocery store chains, which were the Kroger's chain and Safeway, they switched to plastic bags. They love them because they're cheaper to make. They're cheaper to, to get to your store because they're lighter, they take up less space. Just on and on and on. This was still in the honeymoon phase right before the, the real negative side of things started to become more apparent. By the late 1990s, there was a lot of pushback. We talked on a very early episode of the show about the garbage patch, the great Pacific garbage patch. Giant swirling mass of trash. And a huge percentage of that is single use plastic polyethylene bags. I learned from a video interview I saw with Stan Gustav Tulin's son, that his father actually had a vision for the plastic bag that is just 180 degrees from where we have ended up today. His vision was a more environmentally friendly product. His. We should have one. That we should have one, yes. He was dismayed at the deforestation associated with producing so many paper bags that were almost by design disposable. Right. You know, I mean, you get it wet, it tears, whatever. You're not using that again. And he's like, there's got to be a better way. I work for this packaging company. I've got all these resources. What if I could come up with something that would halt or at least slow down the massive amount of trees being turned into paper bags? And his son says that from the very, very, very beginning, Toolin's idea was for a reusable item. His, his thinking was, I've got this awesome super durable, lightweight plastic bag. You can literally carry it in your pocket when you go shopping. Apparently Mr. Toolin himself did, in fact, even in the 1970s, you know, carry around his own invention with him everywhere he went for shopping. And, you know, frankly, a little dismayed to see it turn into a single use item. You know, the plastic bag, it was a victim of its own success. In some ways.

[A]

They.

[C]

They became so cheap to produce that the supermarkets are giving them away. And consumers, even though a lot of us were taking them home and, and, you know, stockpiling them in this massive drawer at home, we weren't really doing much with them. We would do, you know, crafts or products or things like that.

[B]

This is like a, like a Mr. Guillotine situation.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, when he, like, invented this thing to be humane and to be good, and then it was like, bad stuff associated with it.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He, he, he would think it's absolutely silly to, to throw these away or to even just use them. One time I have read, and I'm quoting some data here from the United Nations Environmental Program here, that as many as 1 trillion plastic bags are produced each year worldwide. I read that as many as 1 million plastic bags are used each minute. Even. I mean, just. It is, it's such a beast. So you started to see in, in the early 2000s, bans, and I learned a lot about my own home state of California. Very interesting laws and loopholes. California became the first state to ban plastic bags. All right. You still saw stores selling plastic bags after that, you know, and it's kind of like, what's going on?

[B]

Right?

[C]

It's like. And the stores, you know, they would charge you for them, and they were definitely like, oh, you know, you can reuse this bag. That was their way of getting around the law. This was a giant loophole that the supermarkets and the vendors who still wanted to make plastic bags. If we can build these as reusable bags and charge for them, then we are not running afoul of the original law, the letter of the law, because you are buying a bag, your choice to buy. The state of California finally got it together. Starting in January 1st of next year, they closed this loophole. Yeah, this has been kind of a roller coaster, right? I mean, the reusable bags we've got. The Trader Joe's tote bag is just the hot item everywhere.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Now you have too many tote bags. How many toe bags do you have? Too many.

[C]

So here's the thing, Karen. Like, there's some kind of Want moments associated with tote bags and reusable bags on their own. A big one, as Chris, I think you may have talked about on a previous episode, is cross contamination.

[D]

I believe so, yeah.

[C]

They'll take the raw meat home in the reusable bag and take the raw.

[D]

Meat out of the beef that's like wrapped in like Saran Wrap that doesn't even go all the way around the ground beef. And I'll put it into my, my reusable shopping bag and the. Then I'll put the celery in there and then I eat the celery and die. Yeah.

[C]

Yep, yep. And then you just put it right back in your glove box, in your car.

[D]

Put it in your hot car. Really let it get. It get up to temp.

[C]

You know, some people have pointed out that almost every store now will sell you their own reusable bag, you know, often made out of like recycled soda bottles or, you know, it's got another kind of earth friendly angle to it. And some people are worried that as those become cheaper and cheaper and cheaper, that those are on the verge of becoming almost single use items as well. You know, people point out that cotton bags, paper bags, these things also use a lot of resources.

[B]

Carbon.

[C]

That's right. A lot of water. A lot of water to water the trees to make the. And the cotton plants. That's right. And energy to transport them because they are heavier and, you know, more fragile in a lot of ways. I've read some estimates that some says a paper bag needs to be reused anywhere from three to seven times to be less harmful sort of overall than a plastic bag. And that a cotton bag would need to be used anywhere from 100 to 300 times to be overall less harmful in the very kind of broad definition. As, as bad as they are on the back end and they are plastic bags, they're still so cheap and easy to make that there's so much resistance to moving away from them that, you know, we're going to be fighting this beast for a while.

[A]

The Trader Joe's tote bags are really popular in Japan.

[C]

Oh my God. When we were just in Taiwan, Jennifer, we, we have this giant list of stuff from the US we're supposed to bring for all of Betty's cousins and nieces and nephews. And like we, we, we traveled back with like 10 Trader Joe's tote bags. It's ridiculous.

[D]

I recently learned that people look for L.L. bean tote bags. Yes, like vintage L.L. bean anything, I think, but like vintage yellow bean tote Bags. Yep, yep.

[B]

Okay, I have a quick quiz. Not shopping at the market, but make money on the stock market. So here I've had a similar quiz before, but things have changed. Some information has updated, so I'm going to do this quiz anyways. Here I have compiled from the New York Stock Exchange and nasdaq. Companies with one letter stock symbol. So their ticker symbol on the New York Stock Exchange, NASDAQ is one single letter. What I'm going to give you is the letter and the year that they adopted this one letter, which means the year they went public. But sometimes, you know, situations are different. I'll give you the year when this company went by this letter as their stock symbol. And you buzz in with your buzzer what company it is. All right, all right, quick lightning round quiz. Here we go. The letter is C, 1986. It is in the realm of banking and finance.

[C]

Okay, Chris, Citibank.

[B]

It is the City Group. Yes.

[D]

Not Chase.

[B]

Yeah, City Group. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Oh, Chase. Right. I didn't think about that.

[B]

Okay, next letter. V. V, 2008. Previously it was Vivendi had V, but okay, V, 2008. Also in finance.

[A]

Oh, Jennifer, that was not me. My buzzer is serving me an ad right now. Sorry.

[D]

You take those risks, you gotta buy the premium buzzer.

[A]

All right, Chris.

[D]

Visa.

[B]

Visa. Visa. All right, next letter. F. 1956.

[C]

Colin, is that Ford?

[B]

It is Ford.

[D]

Good one.

[C]

Ford Motor Corporation.

[B]

Well, I just put forward in my notes.

[A]

Here we are.

[B]

This is probably our oldest in the list. This is t.1930.

[C]

Colin, I believe that is a T.

[B]

Yes, it is a T. T for telephone. I mean, AT T. T itself went through a lot of, like, company name change. It was like AT T Corporation. Now it's just AT T. But I'm just kind of counting it all as one. Next letter. H. 2009. It went IPO.

[A]

Oh, Hilton.

[B]

It is Hyatt.

[C]

So close. The other one.

[D]

Okay, you lost half your coins.

[B]

The next letter is M. 2007. This company used to go by FD as their symbol, but they changed in 2007 to M.

[D]

McDonald's.

[B]

Incorrect.

[D]

I was like FD. Maybe it was like food.

[B]

M. M. It is in retail. Oh, Jennifer. Gesundheit.

[A]

Is it Macy's?

[B]

It is Macy's.

[A]

Previously Federated Department.

[B]

Yes, previously Federated Department Store. So it was before. That was a hard one. Good job. All right, next one. You. This is very current 2020. So it's pandemic lockdown year. Previously, you was used by US Airways.

[C]

Colin, is that Uber.

[B]

No, you're close.

[C]

It's tech 2020.

[B]

I'm making eyes. It is Unity.

[D]

Oh.

[C]

That'S right.

[B]

Game engine. For a lot of games out there. All right, nearing the end here almost. This is W 2014. I would say retail. W 2014 retail.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I would say 14 Internet retail.

[D]

Okay. It's not Walden Books.

[B]

RIP Internet retail, slash home. 2014. Oh, Colin.

[C]

Is it Wayfair?

[B]

It's Wayfair. I know that long.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

All right.

[B]

And we have one last one here. Z. Z.

[D]

Appropriate. Appropriate to end on that.

[C]

Okay. Oh.

[B]

Chris, I got it.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Zillow. It is.

[B]

Zillow. Our favorite hobby is to go on Zillow. Go on Zillow and check out what you can't buy. Probably be handy in trivia. Good job, everybody.

[C]

At Pub quiz. For sure.

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All right, well, I guess that's. I guess that's everything. Well, Jennifer, was nice of you to stop by. Well, I mean, wait, I guess. I mean, Jennifer, you don't, like, have a quiz in your back pocket or something, do you?

[A]

I do, because I didn't just bring a casserole. I brought a quiz as well.

[D]

Oh, it was actually. It was actually under the casserole.

[A]

It was under the casserole. I'M so glad you ate the casserole. So you've now found the quiz. So I really like a certain daily newspapers game section. I particularly like a game where you have to pick out four things that are united by a theme.

[D]

Oh, yeah, okay. I've heard of this.

[B]

Why do you have to.

[D]

Why?

[B]

I don't know the name.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

We're not gonna get sued.

[A]

I love the New York Times Connections. I love it dearly. I play it every day. I have prepared a quiz that is Connections. Like, in each question, there are five items. One of them is an imposter. Oh, you've gotta figure out the imposter and figure out the theme. I tried really hard to create questions that felt equitable, but they are tinted by my own bias and things that I enjoy.

[B]

Welcome to the show.

[A]

There's no history. There's no Greek mythology. But I also tried to be fair. So in fairness to Colin, I did not include any Broadway questions. And in fairness to Karen and Chris, the sports question is not really about sports. Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

All right. Okay. So this is going to be a buzz in quiz. I'm going to read you five terms per question. Tell me which one the imposter is and what the theme is. All right?

[D]

All right, let's go.

[A]

Question number one. Paris, Las Vegas. Shanghai, Hong Kong, Tokyo.

[D]

Chris, Las Vegas does not have Disneyland.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

One point to Chris. Okay, next question. Maybe think about something from Pop Quiz.

[B]

No hints.

[D]

Okay, Somebody. Oh, she's mad now.

[A]

Okay. Dallas, Washington, D.C. boston, Los Angeles, Chicago.

[C]

Oh, Dallas, D.C. boston, los Angeles, Chicago, Boston.

[B]

Karen, Boston is the imposter because all the other cities have football teams, but there's no Boston football team because it's the New England Patriots.

[A]

Technically, the Patriots play in Boston. So Boston does have a football team.

[B]

But it's not in the name.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Dallas.

[A]

Dallas, Washington, D.C. boston, Los Angeles.

[C]

Chicago.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

All right, let me see here. Are they the outlier? Because they haven't won a Stanley Cup.

[D]

Washington D.C. is not in a state. Tell me I'm wrong.

[A]

D.C. has the Mystics. Los Angeles has the Sparks.

[D]

Oh.

[B]

WNBA.

[A]

Boston is the only city that has four out of the five major sports franchises. Boston doesn't. Doesn't have a WNBA team.

[B]

Got it.

[C]

They've only got four. The others have five.

[B]

Got it, got it, got it.

[A]

Okay, next question. Kangaroo. Eagle. Condor. Lion. Spiny lobster.

[B]

Spiny lobster. That's a weird one to be in there.

[C]

It is. Yeah.

[B]

Is it like animals? Animals on a flag. I like how this has become a Work together.

[C]

Yeah, right. Exactly. It is kangaroo, eagle, condor, lion, spiny lobster. We don't.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, we don't eat these.

[C]

Animals, but I mean, I guess that's true. So I take that back. I take that back. That's right.

[D]

Try kangaroo. And the kangaroo is not on the endangered list.

[A]

The kangaroo is. Correct. But it is not because it is not on the endangered list. The kangaroo is not on a national flag.

[C]

You were open to it. You were onto it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Abandoned it.

[C]

Who has. We all demand in unison.

[A]

It's Turks and Caicos.

[C]

And who has the condor on their flag?

[A]

Ecuador.

[B]

Eagle is. Well, Mexico.

[C]

Mexico comes to mind.

[B]

There's also Albania has the two headed eagles.

[A]

A lot of people have eagles. Sri Lanka has line.

[C]

Yeah. Okay. Spiny lobster. That's a good one.

[A]

Okay, okay. Band aid, popsicle, Ragu, Jello, Kleenex, horse.

[C]

I'm gonna say Ragu is the. Is the standout because it's the. It's the one that has not become a genericized trademark.

[A]

Yes. It's actually the opposite. Raghu is like the generic name.

[B]

Ragu R A G O U T existed before Ragu.

[C]

Yeah, right, right.

[A]

Okay. Mocha Moose, Tangerine tango.

[B]

Oh, sorry, I forgot. I forgot what game we're playing. I thought it's like. Oh, just buzzing when you know the theme, but. Okay, okay, sorry.

[A]

Mocha moose, Tangerine tango, Rose quartz, Moody smoke, greenery.

[B]

Well, I think these are pantone color of the years.

[C]

I like it.

[B]

And one of them doesn't belong, so I know for sure Mocha Moose was the most recent one. There have been so many freaking oranges. Rose quartz is very millennial. What sounds like a pantone color? Greenery or Moody smoke? I'm gonna. I'll say greenery.

[A]

You are wrong.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Correct on the theme.

[C]

I. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go. Moody Smoke is my guess.

[A]

You are correct. They had one color just called illuminating.

[B]

What color was it?

[A]

A bright yellow. Next question. These are ordinal numbers. 26th, 19th, 15th, 24th and 1st.

[D]

Can you read them all again?

[A]

Yep. 26th, 19th,15th, 24th, 1st.

[C]

Symphonies, popes, presidents.

[D]

I actually, I bet it's. Is it amendments to the United States Constitution?

[C]

Ah, there you go.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

There you go.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

So what's the outlier?

[D]

So the. The 19th amendment was prohibition and it was repealed. Is it the first amendment and the other amendments have had some part of them repealed or taken back at some point.

[A]

You're right on the first, but that's not the reason.

[D]

But that's not the reason.

[A]

And the 19th is not prohibition.

[D]

No.

[C]

19Th was women's suffrage. Yes.

[D]

Do they all deal with voting rights except for the First Amendment? Yes.

[A]

The 26th Amendment is the right to vote at age 18. 15th is the right to vote not being denied by your race. 19th is the women's right to vote. 24th is the abolition of poll taxes.

[C]

Ah, that's a good, obscure one. Yeah.

[A]

Okay, I'm going to say this one. Karen may have an advantage, but maybe not. We'll see.

[B]

This is hard for me. This is harder than I thought.

[A]

Jimmy Fallon, Steve Martin, Neil Patrick Harris, Hugh Jackman, Jerry Lewis. Jimmy Fallon, Steve Martin, Neil Patrick Harris, Hugh Jackman, Jerry Lewis.

[D]

I don't think Jimmy Fallon ever hosted the Academy Awards.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Nice, nice.

[A]

You get all the coins?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I thought I was gonna be like, didn't win a Tony.

[C]

I was thinking that too. Karen. That's so funny you say that.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Oh, keep that in mind. Okay. 2005-1979-2017-1983, 1977-2005-1979-2017, 1983,'1977.

[B]

They're all odd years.

[C]

Right?

[B]

So it can't be Olympics.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Or I would say the linchpin year is 1977.

[C]

Okay, well, obviously that's the year Star wars came out. As we all know. It's not related to the. To the Olympics.

[A]

Chicken.

[D]

A Star wars movie was not released in the year 1979.

[A]

You are correct, sir.

[C]

I just didn't. I couldn't see the forest. You're right.

[D]

77. 83.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Was the. The. Whatever. Revenge of the Sith.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

2017. I figured something came out because they were released. It was a solo stuff. Last Jedi.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Good.

[D]

Nothing in 79 because Empire Strikes Back was 80.

[C]

Yeah, well, that's what I get for being glib is I ignore my own hint. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Go with your instincts. Okay, here we go. Jeremy Irons, Maggie Smith, Cyndi Lauper, Quincy Jones, and Adele.

[D]

One more time.

[A]

Jeremy Irons, Maggie Smith, Cyndi Lauper, Quincy Jones, and Adele.

[D]

Oh.

[B]

Oh. Is it not Adele because she does not have an egot.

[A]

You are incorrect on Adele.

[B]

She has an egot.

[A]

I didn't say that.

[B]

Quincy Jones because he has an ego. Correct.

[A]

Quincy Jones. Yeah. The only person on this list with you. You got second to the last one. The Age of Innocence. The Good Earth, Gone with the Wind, the Color Purple, the Great Gatsby.

[D]

Chris, Great Gatsby was written by a man.

[C]

Ah, I don't know.

[B]

I don't.

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

About the good Earth, but Gone with.

[B]

The Wind as a woman.

[D]

Yeah, it's good Earth. Written by a woman.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

So the Great Gatsby, written by.

[A]

Dude, you are correct that Great Gatsby is the outlier. And that's actually a great theme. But that wasn't my intent. My intent was that the Great Gatsby is the only one on this list that doesn't have a Pulitzer.

[D]

All right. Yeah, to be clear, Slumdog, I just watched the movie for the first time a couple weeks ago. Age of Innocence. Oh, that's why it's, like, super fresh in my mind. Yeah. With Michelle Pfeiffer and Winona Writer and Daniel Day Lewis.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's that era in the 90s where we there made a lot of period movies.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Right, right, right.

[C]

Yep. Just horrible accents.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Top to bottom.

[A]

Okay, last one. Okay. This one might be hard.

[B]

What?

[C]

They've all been so hard compared to the others.

[A]

Okay. France, Austria, Sweden, Switzerland, Iceland. I told you, I'm not really into geography or history, so this is not a geography or history category.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

France, France, Austria, Austria. Sweden. Sweden, Switzerland, Iceland. Chris.

[D]

Iceland. The rest of the countries do not have Bjork.

[B]

Well, Iceland, because the other countries are not islands.

[C]

Iceland is.

[A]

Iceland is correct. Iceland is the correct answer.

[D]

But that's.

[C]

Oh, okay, that rules out my guess. Okay. Iceland is correct.

[A]

An annual event.

[D]

Oh, do they. Does Iceland not participate in Eurovision?

[C]

They do.

[A]

They just have never, ever, ever won it.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Yes. It's Eurovision Song Contest winner.

[C]

Incredible guess. Way to pull it.

[B]

Incredible. Wow.

[A]

That was it.

[C]

That was a good, hard quiz.

[A]

I think if it were better written, it would be only one possibility.

[B]

Yeah, that's the hard part of making connections. Like, it can't go another way.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

Well, thank you, Jennifer, for that quiz hidden in the casserole. It's all very soggy.

[A]

Now I want my Tupperware back.

[B]

Well, we're gonna put that in the dishwasher right now. And that is our show. Thank you all for joining me. Thank you, listeners, for listening in. Thank you, Jennifer, for visiting us and joining us. Hope you learned stuff today about stock market, about five little piggies, about the plastic bag and Eurovision. You can find us on all major podcast apps and on our website, good jobbrain.com. this podcast is part of Airwave Media podcast network. Visit airwavemedia.com to listen and subscribe to other shows like the Historian, Table, IGN Movies, Podcast, and Unspookable. And we'll see you next week.

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