307: We're Back in the Red Again

Summary

Good Job, Brain! – Episode 307: "We're Back in the Red Again"
Release Date: May 7, 2026
Main Cast: Karen, Colin, Chris, Dana, Special Guest: Sarah

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Overview

In episode 307, the GJB crew returns to a classic color-themed topic, diving into everything curious, offbeat, and trivia-worthy about the color RED. The episode features a mix of quiz segments about red things in culture and language, a memorable guest appearance from Sarah, who shares her experience as a child actor in the infamous McDonald’s Arch Deluxe commercial, and plenty of rapid-fire trivia and wordplay. The mood is playful, deeply nerdy, and aimed squarely at fellow trivia buffs.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Welcoming Guest Sarah & Trivia Warm-up

• [00:32-04:00]
  • Karen introduces guest Sarah, who reveals her chaotic child actor history, outdoor hobbies, and love of accessible trivia.
  • The team reflects humorously on aging trivia knowledge: “Where the old dudes now... cresting then in terms of the peak range of knowledge.”—Colin [03:25]
  • Sarah teases her secret reason for joining, to be unveiled later.

2. "Pop Quiz Hotshot" – Trivial Pursuit Quizzing

• [04:10-12:21]
  • A mix of Genus II and more modern Trivial Pursuit cards, with classic and quirky questions.
  • Discussion about the generational gap in trivia, and comically awkward question phrasing in older editions.
  • Notable Moments:
    • “You're licking the surface. Oh, I haven’t had a good old Karen Chu idiom in a long time.”—Chris [05:13]
  • Sample questions:
    • Geography: “What two continents had only 18 fully independent countries between them at the end of World War II?” [Asia & Africa] [04:27]
    • Entertainment: “Who wrote the words and music to ‘I Love Paris’?” [Cole Porter] [04:54]
    • Science: “What unit does the metric barometer measure atmospheric pressure in?” [KiloPascal] [06:31]
    • Sports: “What player’s legs does a batter hit the baseball between if it goes through the wickets?” [Pitcher] [07:14]

3. The "Red" Meta-Theme Revealed

• [12:21-12:59]
  • The episode’s true theme is ‘RED’—a return to their popular color subjects, promising facts, wordplay, and quizzes about all things red.

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Featured Quizzes & Segments

A. Red in Popular Culture Quiz (by Chris)

• [12:59-21:08]
  • All answers contain “Red” in the title.
  • Highlights:
    • Animated Film (2022): “Turning Red” [14:16]
    • Video Game: “Red Dead Revolver” [17:38]
    • Children’s Book: “Clifford the Big Red Dog” [19:20]
    • Satirical Sci-Fi Novel: “Redshirts” by John Scalzi [20:51]
  • Fun banter as contestants often recall wrong sequels or mix up titles, spurring group collaboration.

B. Red Flags Quiz (by Karen & Chris)

• [21:08–24:07]
  • Flags with red symbolism.
  • Standout segment: Guest Chris is quizzed live on red-and-white flags, listing countries such as Denmark, Japan, Canada, Switzerland, Poland, Indonesia, Monaco, Tonga, Austria, Latvia, Qatar, Bahrain, Turkey, Tunisia, Georgia, Singapore, and Gibraltar [22:46–24:04].

C. McDonald’s Arch Deluxe Ad – Sarah’s “Secret” Revealed

• [24:22–36:41]
  • Sarah recounts her experience as a third grader accidentally cast as “the kid who makes a gross face” in the Arch Deluxe ad.
  • Behind the scenes of child casting at a Brownie event: “...for some unknown reason there was a casting director present... and somehow that casting director was like, hey, you girls, come over here to this other audition we’re having for McDonald’s.” [26:17]
  • Marketing misfire: McDonald’s wanted to rebrand with a “grownup burger,” implying through children’s disgust it wasn’t for kids.
  • Producers told Sarah and other child actors the burger was made of “monkey brains” to elicit genuine disgusted reactions [31:36].
  • After two weeks the ad was pulled due to negative impact; Sarah discusses learning years later in college ad classes that her spot was cited as why the product failed: “My general face and vibe cost McDonald’s tens of millions of dollars.” —Sarah [34:03]
  • Sarah’s memorabilia: saved the original Arch Deluxe box.

D. Strawberry Deep-Dive (by Karen)

• [38:50–42:54]
  • Karen shares “Snapple fact” clarity: Not only are strawberries not berries (botanically), but the real strawberry fruit is the tiny “seeds”—achene—on the outside (“When you’re eating one strawberry, you’re eating 200 fruits.” —Karen [40:54]).
  • Bonus strawberry fact: Strawberries are octoploid, with 8 sets of chromosomes; easy to extract visible DNA at home [41:32].

E. Red Word Roots Quiz (by Colin)

• [43:01–51:44]
  • Words starting with R, etymologically linked to the meaning ‘red.’
  • Sample clues/answers and etymology:
    • “Common name for iron oxide”: Rust [45:06]
    • “Flour-based sauce in cooking”: Roux [45:53]
    • “South African herbal tea”: Rooibos [46:35]
    • “German measles”: Rubella [47:39]
    • “Authoritative rule, often in red”: Rubric [48:24]
    • “Reddish variety of potatoes/pears”: Russet [49:45]
    • “Strong, hardy (person/coffee)”: Robust [50:49]
  • Fun digression into marketing terms like “strawberry blonde” and etymology of color adjectives.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We’re the old dudes now.” —Colin, on aging trivia knowledge ([03:25])
• “You’re licking the surface. Oh, I haven’t had a good old Karen Chu idiom in a long time.”—Chris ([05:13])
• “My general face and vibe cost McDonald’s tens of millions of dollars.”—Sarah ([34:03])
• “When you’re eating one strawberry, you’re eating 200 fruits.” —Karen ([40:54])
• “Cows, not berries.”—Karen, riffing on fruit terminology ([52:38])

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Additional: "Producer Brain" Quiz on Child Labor Laws (by Sarah)

• [54:15–63:22]
  • Sarah quizzed the hosts on child actor regulations, based on her firsthand experience.
  • Covers limitations on work hours, call times, and the need for twins to get around child labor limits.
  • “You have proved to Diva that you care deeply about child labor laws…” —Sarah ([62:49])
  • Fun fact: Babies can “work” at 15 days old for a max of 20 minutes during a 2-hour day, only 30 seconds at a time under the lights.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:32] — Sarah’s introduction and generational trivia chat
• [04:10] — Trivial Pursuit Lightning Round
• [12:21] — Theme reveal: All About Red
• [12:59] — “Red in Entertainment” Buzzer Quiz
• [21:08] — Red Flags / World Flags Mini-Quiz
• [24:22] — Sarah’s McDonald’s Arch Deluxe Ad Story
• [38:50] — Strawberry Facts
• [43:01] — Red Root Words Quiz
• [54:15] — Behind-the-scenes of child labor laws in entertainment

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Tone & Style Note

As always, Good Job, Brain! is quick-witted, geeky, supportive, and interspersed with playful ribbing. The crew’s banter is friendly and inclusive, with inside-joke callbacks and plenty of laughter at creative missteps.

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For Non-Listeners

Even without listening, you’ll learn:

• The surprising real-life impact of color-themed advertising flops.
• That strawberries aren’t technically berries, and you can extract their DNA at home.
• The etymological journey of “red” across English vocabulary.
• Why so many national flags feature only red and white.
• Insider trivia on child actor regulations, plus an amazing tale of how a kid’s “gross” face in a McDonald's commercial became famous in a way no one expected.

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For more trivia goodness and all episode links, visit goodjobbrain.com.

Transcript

[A]

You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast.

[B]

Hello, Risky Rizzlers. Drinking Rieslings and Ristrettos and eating rhizome risottos. Welcome to Good Job Brain, your weekly crochet and offbeat trivia podcast. This is episode 307, of course. I'm your humble host, Karen, and we are your red shirts ready to redline red herrings on Reddit.

[C]

I'm Colin.

[D]

And I'm Chris.

[B]

And today we have a special guest. Special guest Sarah. Please say hi to everybody, Sarah.

[A]

Well, hey, guys, I'm Sarah. I'm so excited to be joining all of you awesome people on this podcast today. I have been listening to Good Job Brain for a long time. For me, though, not as long as the podcast has been going on. I used to commute from LA to Orange county, which is insane. So I would listen to lots of podcasts on the way and I fell in love with you guys. In general, I quite like trivia, but I am also quite bad at it. So I like it when it feels accessible. I'm into, like, being outside and doing outdoorsy things. And then I have two kids who are my chaos agents that are just very fun and exhausting at the same time. Like you guys know. Absolutely.

[C]

Girl.

[B]

Sarah is here. She is a special guest, but also a kind of a secret guest. She has a very good reason for being in this episode and we're not going to tell you what that is until later, so stay tuned. And with all that talk, let's jump into our first general trivia segment. Pop quiz Hotshot. Here. I have plucked two random Trivial Pursuit cards out of a 12 pound box. Oh, I haven't seen this design before. Genus 2. Oh, hey, I don't know.

[D]

Yeah, the sequel to Trivial Pursuit. Pretty old.

[C]

I have some Genus two cards. Karen, you'll. You'll laugh. Some of them are weird, man. Some of the questions are out there. So I'm looking forward to this one.

[D]

Let's go. As we have been watching Jeopardy, it dawned on me last night or a couple of nights ago that there are so many Jeopardy. Questions now that I know the answer to that will completely stump the whole all the contestants. Because it's only something you would know if you were old. And it's like, it's like, oh, they show a picture of the Smothers Brothers and they're like, who are they? I'm like, it's the Smothers Brothers. They were on. They were on TV all the time in the 80s, which I guess for the 20 something year old people on Jeopardy is, like, knowing things about, like, the 40s, you know, it's like. Oh, right. Interesting.

[B]

I had that thought the other day when we used to play pub trivia together in person at a bar. We were in our late 20s.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Up until, you know, mid-30s.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And our friend team. The other team in the circuit, obviously a generation or half a generation older.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I'm like, man, they know everything. Like, how are you knowing all this stuff? And you're kind of like, oh, man, these old dudes.

[A]

And.

[B]

And now I'm like, oh, where the

[C]

old dudes now are the old people now? They were cresting then in terms of, like, the. The peak range of knowledge. You might be asked at a pub quiz. Right.

[B]

Yeah. All right, well, that's genus, too.

[D]

Anyway. Anyway.

[B]

Anyway, the other card is probably a little bit more current as a palate cleanser. Trivia pursuit, R and R singles. So, buzzers. Sarah's our special guest. She also prepared a buzzer. Please, please share your buzzer with everybody. Sarah.

[D]

Oh, boy.

[B]

And what is that? What kind of hellhound is that, Sarah?

[A]

Yeah, it is. It is your standard Internet screaming goat.

[D]

Yep.

[C]

I love it.

[B]

All right, let's pick our poison. Let's do genus two first. Buzzers at the ready. Here we go. Blue wedge for geography. What? Two continents had only 18 fully independent countries between them at the end of World War II.

[C]

18.

[B]

What is it asking?

[C]

Okay. I think they mean, like, not a colonial power.

[B]

Okay, Chris.

[D]

Europe and Asia.

[B]

Asia's right.

[C]

Oh, Asia and Africa.

[B]

It's just Asia and Africa.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

All right. Pink wedge for entertainment. Who wrote the words and music to I Love Paris?

[D]

Chris Gershwin.

[B]

You know you're in the right camp.

[D]

Okay. All right.

[C]

Irving Berlin.

[B]

Also very good guest. Cole Porter.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. You guys were licking the surface. Mm, that's not. That's what is scratching.

[D]

You're licking the surface. Oh, I haven't had a good old Karen Chu idiom in a long time. That takes me back.

[B]

All right, yellow. Yellow for history.

[D]

What?

[B]

President's wedding in Newport, Rhode island, prompted one observer to note it was just like the coronation. Oh, Colin.

[C]

Is that John F. Kennedy?

[B]

It is jfk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Brown wedge for Arts and Literature. What Shakespeare character tells Ophelia, get thee to a nunnery, Chris.

[D]

That is Hamlet.

[B]

Yes, it is him. It's him in his own play. That's Hamlet telling his girlfriend to, yeah, get to a nunnery. All right, Green wedge for science in nature. What unit does the metric barometer Measure atmospheric pressure in.

[D]

Ooh.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

Oh, wow. This is hard. Chris.

[D]

Millimeters.

[B]

Oh, because you're thinking, like, the distance. No, no, no.

[C]

Like, named unit.

[D]

Yeah, that's what I thought.

[C]

There's something. There's something scratching or licking the surface of my brain, if you will. And I can't. I can't retrieve it, but I feel like I'm going to say. Oh, I know it.

[B]

When you say yeah, I mean, it sounds sciencey. It's kilo Pascal.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[D]

Yeah. All right,

[B]

last question on this card. Wow. Genus two is. Genus two.

[C]

Yeah. I told you.

[B]

Okay. Orange wedge. Sports and Leisure. What player's legs has a batter hit the baseball between if it goes through the wickets?

[C]

Say that one.

[B]

Sorry. Like, how do I question?

[D]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

What players legs.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Has a better hit the baseball between. If it goes through the wickets. What position where the ball goes through their legs?

[D]

I'm ready. Called through the right answer.

[B]

All right, hold on, Sarah, do you have a guess?

[A]

I'm a say catcher, but I know we're talking about cricket, so I'm fairly sure that's wrong.

[B]

It's baseball. It's baseball.

[A]

They also call it There's a wicket in baseball. All right.

[B]

Wicked.

[D]

Metaphorical. Metaphorical. Wicked.

[B]

Still gonna go with catcher, then, Chris, your guess?

[D]

I was gonna say. I was gonna say the pitcher.

[B]

It is the pitcher. The picture.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

I can picture it, like. Yeah.

[C]

Metaphorically.

[D]

Right?

[C]

Yeah. Strangely worded cards.

[A]

That's.

[B]

That's the problem with reading these live. I, like, don't know where to break the sentence. Okay, take a deep breath. Let's get into some R and R singles. Okay, last part. Here we go. Blue wedge. What Olympic sport gets its name from the Scandinavian word for shoot?

[D]

Chris, it's me. Luge.

[B]

Incorrect. For the steal. Colin.

[C]

Skeet.

[B]

It is. Skeet.

[A]

It is.

[D]

So do you understand my confusion? No, I was. I was thinking C H U T

[C]

E. Oh, luge and shoot. I do get your confusion now.

[B]

Pink wedge. What British singer's wife sold her $40,000 bridal gown to fund a rainforest charity? What? British singer's wife sold her $40,000 bridal gown to fund a rainforest charity.

[D]

Oh.

[B]

Huh.

[C]

They had a lot of money when they were married.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay. Okay.

[B]

Colin.

[C]

Is it Sting?

[B]

It is Sting.

[C]

All right. I believe. I believe his wife's name is Trudy. Wow.

[D]

Okay, Trudy. Sting.

[B]

Yes. Mrs. Sting.

[D]

Ah, yes, Please.

[B]

All right. Yellow wedge. What? Candy company's Butterfinger was renamed the Finger for April Fool's Day.

[D]

I remember that. Wow. Wow.

[C]

Who Makes this one.

[B]

Okay, guesses across the board.

[C]

Is it Mars Nestle?

[B]

It is Nestle. All right. It says DD for purple wedge. I don't know if that's designated driver, but here we go. Oh, it could be. What is the spelling of whiskey? If it's been distilled in Scotland or Canada.

[C]

That's right. It's. It's with the e or without the E?

[B]

With the e or without the E. Oh, I see.

[D]

I'll go. I'll go.

[B]

No E. Okay, it is W, H, I S K Y. No E. All right, next question. Green wedge. What pink hotel is pictured on the album cover of Hotel California by the Eagles?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Oh, I mean, okay, Colin, is it.

[C]

Is it the Hotel Beverly Hills?

[B]

Can you give me the name of this hotel? The proper name of this hotel?

[C]

Oh, geez. Maybe once upon a time. I don't know. I'm not sure what they're looking for.

[B]

So what'd you call it?

[C]

The. The Beverly Hills Hotel. The Hotel Beverly Hills.

[B]

Which one?

[C]

Oh, oh, oh, okay. I see what you're getting at. Sorry, I thought you were like, oh, you know, the Flamingo or the Hotel Beverly Hills.

[B]

It is Beverly Hills Hotel, of course, famously featured on True Beverly Hills.

[D]

I would. I would have given it to him.

[C]

That was. Hey, you put me on the spot. You put me on the spot.

[B]

People here, we got. We got to be a little bit harder with the LA questions.

[C]

That's all right.

[B]

All right, last question for pop quiz. Hot shot, orange wedge. What island's exclusive Wakaya club was Bill Gates's honeymoon hotel? W a K a Y a. Wakaya. Wakaya. Wakaya Island. What island's exclusive Wakaya club was Bill Gates's honeymoon hotel?

[C]

All right.

[B]

Okay, Chris.

[D]

Okinawa.

[B]

Incorrect. Oh, it does sound Japanese, but it does not. It is Fiji. Fiji.

[D]

Oh, my gosh, this is hard.

[B]

It's. At first, you have to know Fiji's clubs.

[D]

You have to know the exclusive club

[B]

on Fiji, and you have to know Bill Gates's honeymoon.

[D]

You have to care about the personal Bill Gates.

[B]

All right, good job, brain.

[A]

All right. We survived.

[D]

Good job.

[B]

Good job. All right. Our special guest, Sarah is with us for this episode. And this episode topic is kind of inspired by her, and we'll get to that a little bit later. This week's episode is the color red. We did have an episode before around things that are red. That was such a good episode. We have more stuff to share today, so this week we're back in the red again.

[D]

All right, well, to get things started, I Have a a pretty simple, straightforward quiz for real this time. It is about books and movies and music and television and creative works that all have the word red in the title. Perhaps the question might be a little vague if you didn't already know something very important about the answer. So hopefully this will all work out for you. It is a buzzing quiz, so get those buzzers ready. This is going to be a very interesting round. I will jump right in. Yeah, no, go ahead.

[B]

Is it the color red?

[D]

It's always the word red.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Meaning the color.

[B]

Not scarlet.

[D]

R E D. Oh, yeah, it's not scarlet.

[C]

Crimson.

[D]

Not the scarlet red. R E D. Red. All right, question one. This 2022 animated film inspired, among other things, an official manga with stories about its in universe boy band.

[A]

It just cuts so long like a knife. I'm sorry.

[D]

No, Sarah, go for it.

[A]

Turning red.

[D]

It's turning red. It's turning red. Be sure to read the manga for real. Oh, that's great, Excell. Very, very good. Next question. This Commodore 64 game, billed as the ultimate submarine combat simulation, was based on a 1984 novel. Karen, I played this.

[B]

I played really? Ms. DOS version. Hunt for the Red October.

[D]

I'll give it to you out of the spirit of friendship. It is the Hunt for Red October.

[C]

Yes, yes, yes.

[B]

Wait, what did I say?

[D]

Hunt for the Red October.

[C]

But it is the Hunt for Red October.

[D]

Red October.

[C]

It would be like you're not giving somebody Beverly Hills Hotel or Hotel Beverly Hills.

[D]

Right.

[B]

I had a World War II dad. This game was not really for me,

[D]

but it was on the coast.

[C]

Gary's probably so proud. He's like, oh, good, she's getting into subs. This is good.

[D]

This is.

[B]

Yeah, she's getting submarines.

[D]

Yep. Yeah. Prior to the film, in fact, it was the first game based on a Tom Clancy. Very complicated game was the 1987 game the Hunt for Radicumber. Okay, I'll give you another question. How about that? This 1981 thriller novel takes its title from an early 19th century painting by William Blake.

[C]

Colin, is this red dragon?

[D]

That is Red Dragon. Red Dragon, the William Blake painting from the early 19th century called the Great Red Dragon and the Woman Clothed with the Son features in the book. This 2016 animated film was a collaboration between France's Wild Bunch and Japan's Studio Ghibli.

[B]

Oh, interesting.

[D]

I was getting more difficult now, isn't it?

[B]

I was gonna be like, oh, what a funny thing. If it was Porco rosso.

[D]

Oh, it's. That's 90s Porco Rosso.

[C]

And this feels like we should know this.

[D]

You should know. Maybe you should know this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Feature. Feature length film.

[D]

Feature length film. Feature length animated film. Yeah. For this one it was a collaborative effort between Studio Ghibli and a variety of different French studios, actually, primarily one being the Wild Bunch. But yeah, no, it's called the Red Turtle. The Red Turtle of it.

[C]

The Red Turtle.

[D]

Interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, is it about the turtle? A less known. I, I, Yeah, it is a less known studio. My guess, you know, it doesn't say. So here's another one. Released for the PlayStation 2 and Xbox in 2004. This action adventure game stars bounty hunter Red Harlow.

[C]

Oh, 2004 for.

[D]

Oh, Karen.

[B]

Red Dead Redemption.

[D]

Incorrect.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

It's not going to be something just as ridiculous as adding on to Karen's answer of red Dead Redemption 2.

[D]

Oh, God. I would never, I would never. No, no, no.

[B]

Oh, Karen Chu, thank you for that because that's the sequel. It's Red Dead Revolver.

[D]

Hooray. The first game in called Red Dead Revolver. Red Dead Redemption, much more popular was Red Dead Revolver.

[B]

That was good teamwork.

[A]

Yeah, I'm, I'm here for the, for the community points.

[B]

That's really.

[D]

Well, that's, I mean, Sarah, I mean, honestly, it's. I mean that's, we always talk about that. It's like somebody says something and they don't know it and then somebody else says something else and then that spurs the first person to yourself. Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Right. Yeah. I mean, look at that. You're like, well, it would be dumb if I said red Dead Redemption 2. But like that was like, oh, the

[B]

Redemption was the sequel.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. This 1948 film based on a Hans Christian Andersen story featured a 17 minute ballet sequence. Karen.

[B]

I don't know if it's the girl with the red shoes or just the red shoes.

[D]

It's the red shoes.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

Yep, it's the red shoes. Nicely done. The front cover of this 1961 novel calls it the story of two dogs and a boy.

[C]

Oh.

[D]

Oh, Karen, I'm sorry to bring this up.

[B]

Where the red fern grows.

[D]

It's where the red fern grows. Yes. Less said about the plot of the novel.

[B]

No, let's move on.

[D]

Let's just move right on. Okay. The main character of this long running children's book series was originally going to be named Tiny Screaming Goat. Sarah.

[A]

Clifford the Big Red Dog.

[D]

Clifford the Big Red Dog.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Nicely spotted. Huge. It was originally going to be named Tiny, but instead they named him Clifford.

[C]

Good decision.

[D]

Big Red Dog. All right, just two questions left. How much do you remember about early 2000s video games? Wield a katana by swinging your arm around in this 2006 video game, one of the first games released for the Wii.

[B]

For Wii.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

Red.

[D]

Oh,

[C]

I think we had this at the office I worked at at the time.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Not helping me retrieve the name.

[D]

However, there's a sword reference. How about that

[A]

red katana?

[D]

You know, that's a good guess. It is not correct, but it is a good guess. You're. You're onto something. It's a little more metaphorical. It's a little more poetic. How about that?

[C]

I. I was gonna say Red Blade, but that's not very poetic. Yeah.

[D]

The name of the game is Red Steel.

[C]

Red Steel. Nice.

[D]

Finally, this 2012 novel by John Scalzi satirizes the recurring plot elements of a science fiction television series. Colin.

[C]

Is it just red shirts?

[D]

It's just red shirts.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay. It's red shirts as spoken by Karen during the alliterative portion of today's episode. Yeah. Well, good job on your red creative works, everyone.

[B]

All right, I have one. Just Quick game. Chris, you can have a life. You have a direct lifeline.

[D]

Oh, nice.

[B]

I'm calling this quiz. Very quick quiz. Red flags, girl. He's a red flag. And these are some red flags.

[D]

Okay. I'd like to phone a friend.

[B]

Okay. Phone a friend. Should we just have him do it?

[D]

Yeah, Chris, we should. Chris, you just want to do this. This segment of Good Job Rain in my place. It's about flags.

[A]

Sure.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

All right.

[D]

I'm attacking, man. Okay. Okay.

[B]

Well, I guess this quiz is becoming a. A talent show.

[D]

Here's your buzzer. Let me know when you need to come back in.

[B]

We have a second special guest. This is Chris.

[A]

Chris, hello. Hi, Chris.

[B]

I'm gonna ask you some flag questions. This episode is about red, and these are flags that have the color red in them. Okay, question one. The only national flag that is not in a rectangular shape, is predominantly red and belongs to what nation? Yay, Chris.

[A]

Nepal.

[B]

Correct. Yes.

[C]

Nice. Nice.

[B]

Okay, the flags of Japan and Bangladesh share what element? The same. What element?

[A]

A red circle.

[B]

Red circle. Correct. Yes. All right. Okay, now this is a little bit more challenging. Our last red flag question, the Little Chris Show. Please name me as many as you can. Flags that only have the color red and white.

[A]

Oh, let's see. Denmark.

[B]

Correct. We already talked about Japan earlier. Sarah, Colin, you guys want to join in and name some red and white? Flags. Canada.

[A]

We got the two. I got.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Canada.

[C]

Switzerland.

[B]

Switzerland. Good one.

[C]

Poland. Poland in there.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Indonesia.

[B]

Yes. Because Poland. Indonesia are upside down of each other.

[A]

Monaco.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[C]

Nice on Monaco.

[A]

Tonga.

[B]

Tonga.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Would you. Would you count Greenland?

[B]

You know, I put it in parentheses.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

It is on the list. Danish. Maroon. I also have maroon and white flags, too here.

[A]

Austria.

[B]

Austria. Yes.

[A]

Latvia.

[B]

Latvia. Yes.

[C]

If you're going maroon, does. Does Qatar include there?

[A]

Yes. Bahrain.

[B]

Bahrain.

[C]

Nice.

[B]

My man.

[A]

Turkey. Tunisia.

[C]

Good one, Good one.

[B]

A flag with a lot of plus signs. Like every corner. It is. Georgia.

[A]

Oh, Georgia. That one.

[B]

Last two. Singapore and Gibraltar.

[C]

Oh. Ah, nice.

[B]

All right, that's it. Round of applause for our special guest, Chris. What a winner. What a winner.

[A]

He's very happy.

[B]

Amazing.

[A]

Pulling that out of his back pocket. Awesome.

[D]

I get all the points for that, right?

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Okay, thank you.

[B]

Because you made him.

[D]

I did. Exactly.

[B]

You made him. Good job. That was my. My quick. Red flags. All right. The time has come. Well, this episode is about red things and I think a very iconic logo. We all know, the whole world knows the iconic logo of a certain red background with a two golden arches is something that is very recognizable. And speaking of that, you know, we

[D]

have talked about, you know, various, like, failed McDonald's items and things like that. And we have discussed recently the Arch Deluxe. Rip. Rip in peace. The sad arch. The sad fate of the Arch Deluxe, which was, for my money, one of the most delicious things I ever ate at McDonald's. I wish they would bring it back. They have. They have the big arch.

[A]

They kind of did. They kind of.

[D]

Except they didn't because it's the. It's got the bun with, like, the poppy seeds and the. I tried it. I tried this thing out. Yeah, it's got like a sort of an upclassed, you know, as much as McDonald's can do sauce, but it's got the sort of the shredded lettuce and things like that. It's good, it's good, it's good. But I feel like it's just. It's not the Arch Deluxe and Sarah got in touch with.

[C]

Never to tell it.

[D]

It's never going to be. To tell us something very personal that happened between Sarah. The Arch Deluxe as a concept.

[A]

I am so excited to be able to share this story. To let cats out of bags here. I was the star of the first ever Arch Deluxe commercial.

[C]

Incredible.

[A]

I'm sorry. I was one of the stars of the first ever Arch Deluxe commercial.

[D]

No, really, though.

[B]

You had a speaking part.

[A]

I did. I did all right, so before we get into the insanity that was filming that commercial, let me tell you about what it was to get cast on that commercial.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So, yep, the spot aired in 1996, and I did math or whatever to figure out how old I was. And I must have been in no more. No older than like third grade. So in third grade, little Sarah is in Brownies, which is like the young girl Scouts, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I went to like World Peace Day or Brownie Day or whatever. The like local. All the Brownie troops get together and you know, in like a hotel room ballroom somewhere, you know, just like, and do little Brownie day stuff. Sorry. So you make a necklace over here and then you go and you learn about lemons or something over here. And it's just. Instead of just your troop, it's all the troops. For some unknown reason that I cannot figure out, there was a casting director present. And so one of the, like, stalls that you could go to was go and talk to this random casting director.

[C]

Interesting.

[A]

And somehow that casting director was like, hey, you girls, come over here to this other audition we're having on another day and you can come interview for McDonald's. And I'm.

[B]

Oh, they're just there for McDonald's.

[A]

It was hyper specific for this one thing. And so I go to this cattle call audition. And that is still the phrase that they use for it is a cattle call. It was just a room full of young kids. Now the question you may be asking was, was this in a normal audition place in Los Angeles? No, this was still in a weird hotel ballroom in a suburb of Los Angeles. So it's me. And I don't even remember how many other kids. And the casting directors just started picking you out of a crowd.

[C]

Oh, my God. Just. I like the look of you.

[A]

But now you're right. Like a great introduction to the entertainment profile. So I was originally cast as a background actor. Right. You know, just like, ah, the kid will fill the seed. And they do that. I also want to explain a little bit about the spot and why it's filled with children. So the, the. The spot itself is called Career Day. And what it focuses on, or tried to, was a manager of McDonald's going into like, presumably his child's class and explaining what he does for a living. And Spot is like, this guy, he's really excited. I go to McDonald's, I get to make the McNuggets, I get to make the Big Mac. And you have all of these kids raising their questions like, do you get to make this. Do you get to make this? And we're so excited. And then there's a tight shot on the manager. He goes, I do all that. I even get to make the Arch Deluxe. And the very next thing that happens is a tight focus on my face going gross. And so then the rest of the spot is just about how, like, children are not supposed to like the burger. And so that's why it's good for grownups.

[C]

Right? Right. This ain't no kids burger.

[A]

Exactly. Right. Exactly. So this was McDonald's trying to up their brand. Right. McDonald's knew that parents were brought to McDonald's because they're so.

[B]

Because of their kids.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

So they wanted to change their branding. They wanted to be like, oh, but grownups can also go there. Like, absent of your children. Like, you're looking for a, you know, a good date night, affordable date night. Why not go to McDonald's and order this grown up burger? Right.

[D]

On a third date you probably shouldn't have gone on. And you definitely want to make sure

[A]

there's not a fourth. Yep, yep.

[D]

Take her to McDonald's. Make it Mac tonight.

[A]

Indeed. Sorry.

[B]

We love that commercial too.

[A]

That's fantastic. You should. You should live in that. That happiness.

[B]

Oh, Chris did.

[D]

Absolutely.

[B]

His mom made him the moon man mask, and that's why he went as Halloween.

[D]

That Halloween. That Halloween. That was really big.

[C]

Incredible artifact.

[A]

This is perfect. I was cast as a background actor. Right. Just supposed to be a kid with a butt in a seat. Right. You're supposed to have 20, 30 kids. Whatever. Through production and editing, I was promoted from a background actor all the way up to a principal actor.

[D]

Right.

[A]

So that means that at the age of nine or whatever, I was in third grade, I got residuals. So, like, you guys have younger kids, so either put yourself in your mindset of your younger kids or put yourself in the mindset of you in second grade. And I got to miss. Or third grade, I got to miss two days of school.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

To go film a commercial that later I would get paid every time it aired. And I didn't actually care about that second part, but I was like, yeah, it's for McDonald's. And I was like an awkward, lonely kid. So I was just like, I'm gonna be cool now. It's fine.

[D]

Yep, yep. It's all gonna change for sag.

[A]

My whole life's gonna change. So through this process, I got promoted to principal actor. That's also how I got my first two SAG credits.

[D]

Oh, amazing.

[A]

Let's back up to what a terrible idea this is to have a small child say that your product is gross in order to get genuinely disgusted responses from the children. The director and producers and all the grownups on set told us that the burger was made out of monkeys brains.

[B]

Oh, my God. Like Indiana Jones.

[A]

Yeah, like, exactly, dude. When I saw that in Indiana Jones, I was like, oh, like the burger. And then eventually I was like, oh, no, they just lied to me because I was a child. So then I remember hearing that the. The ad wasn't working out too well. And to the best of my knowledge, the ad was on air for about two weeks before they cut it. No, I remember hearing, oh, you know, it's not working out well. So they're going to pull your spot and they're going to replace it with another spot. And the spot that they replaced it with was Ronald McDonald, like, shining shoes

[D]

on like a. Oh, it was like Ronald McDonald, like, grows up and goes golfing or like, does it.

[A]

Something.

[D]

Yeah, like that.

[A]

Fully more grown up with it. I ended up getting an agent out of this and I spent several years trying to, like, do that. Right. I spent several years going to LA for auditions and everything, and I never got anything as good as that. I ended up being a finalist for the Pepsi Girl in the Night in the very late 90s, early 2000s. You might remember the girl with the beautiful curly hair.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I lost that to her. I was almost. I was one of the finalist for being like the Welch's Grape or jelly, like, somewhere in there. Yeah, I was, I was in that. I got a couple of print ads and a couple of other really small things, but never anything obviously as big as, like a national McDonald's, like, huge thing. Right. So cut to college. I was an advertising major and I'm sitting in my advertising classes and they start talking about, like, oh, let's take a look at why some things don't work. And like, two minutes later, the flagship example was the Arch Deluxe. And so my whole class, we spent a long time talking about, like, well, why did it fail? Why could it have been this? Why could it have been this? And seemingly no one had actually seen one of the ads. And so I was like, I gotta. I got a different perspective here. The end result at one part was this commercial where they told people that their product was disgusting.

[D]

Right, right.

[A]

I had mentioned in the. In the Globetrotters group. I am just so proud that of all the accomplishments in my life, my general face and vibe cost McDonald's tens of millions. Of dollars.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

Right, right, right, right.

[A]

I sent Karen some pictures of this as well. But like, thank God my mother keeps a lot of things. She actually kept like the original burger box.

[D]

Oh my gosh.

[A]

Some pictures. So like, this is actually like from the mid to late 90s, the box that the burger came in.

[D]

Look at the wit.

[B]

Look at the plastic window.

[D]

The window. They're so proud of the deluxe. They want you to see it. That logo is fantastic, by the way. It's the single, the single arch. Single arch forming the A, the shadow of the arch forming the D. It's so designy.

[A]

And this is what's so fascinating to me is if you look at how McDonald's approach to this, they put so much love and care and intentionality and this was gonna be the flagship thing that like propelled them through the mid to late 90s and into the new millennium. Right. And they put everything into this. I. I genuinely wonder, like how many points and times in a meeting did somebody not pop up and say it should be aspirational.

[B]

Like, yes.

[D]

The thing is, it's like as a kid, you should want the arch delight. Want to enter the mysterious world of adult burgers. Right? Yeah, exactly. Right, Right.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

I for one do not blame you personally. I do entirely.

[A]

That's fine. I think I blame me personally a little bit.

[B]

Yeah, I think it's really cool.

[A]

I will wear this proudly. I. I had heard you guys talk about this and I always just like took it as a little bit personal, like, hahaha, I've got a secret that nobody knows. And then, and then I thought about like actually reaching out and I was like, yeah, I think, I think that they're gonna be down with this story.

[D]

It is so glad you're here. We're glad you're here sharing this with us.

[B]

Lion King Music

[C]

in the burger. Rapper.

[D]

Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

In the little carton.

[B]

All right. With that story. That's amazing. Amazing story. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back in the red. This episode is brought to you by ixl, an award winning online learning platform that features fit seamlessly into the homeschool curriculum. It offers interactive practice across math, language arts, science, social studies from Pre K through 12th grade. There are quizzes, interactive activities, videos and educational games all to help make learning more meaningful and effective. My kid is in kindergarten at a public school, so we use IXL as a fun family learning activity. It helps us explore and see what topics are interesting to her. We found out that she's really into world oceans and seas. So you know apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. I guess so. Whether your child is trying to catch up, get a head start or look for things to explore, IXL is here to help kids stay curious, motivated and confident. So make an impact on your child's learning. Get IXL now and Good Job Brain listeners can get an exclusive 20% off I Excel membership when they sign up [e-mail] goodjobbrain visit iexcel.com good jobbrain to get the most effective learning program out there at the best price. This episode is brought to you by Wyzeant, the nation's largest network of tutors trusted by parents nationwide. Is homework time a stressful time at your house and do tests and exams feel overwhelming to everyone? As parents, it's not always easy to have time to sit down and provide help for your kids. But maybe using online one on one tutors could help everybody out. With more than 65,000 expert tutors across more than 350 subjects, Wyzant makes it easy to get personalized support that fits your schedule and budget. I even know parents who use Wyzant tutors for subjects outside of the classroom, like chess and songwriting. Lessons are online from the comfort of home. Pay as you go. No subscriptions, just the help you need when you need it. Your first hour is protected by Wyzant's Good Fit guarantee. So help your child succeed in school and boost their confidence with wyzant. Go to wyzeant.com that's W-Y-Z-A-N-T.com and book your first lesson today. And just for Good Job Brain listeners, use code PODCAST15 to enjoy $15 off your first lesson. Visit wyzone.com and give your child the tools they need to thrive. You're listening to Good Job Brain. Up next, more questions, more answers, more riddles, more puzzles.

[C]

Good Job Brain.

[B]

This week our topic is red. And initially this was a quiz, but I'm just gonna blurt it out because it blew my mind and I feel like it's gonna blow yours. So let's talk about strawberries very quickly. Strawberries.

[C]

Noted. Red fruit. Yeah.

[B]

Noted red fruit. Noted. Red flavor. My oldest, who's 6, can rip through a box of strawberries like no other.

[C]

Oh yeah, man.

[B]

I know that strawberries are not. Not cheap, not cheap, not a cheap fruit.

[C]

They just buy the handful. Just. Yep, yep.

[B]

We probably all heard, probably all read this on a Snapple lid. What I call a Snapple Lid fact. Strawberries are not actual berries. Right? Strawberries are not actual berries. Turns out they're actually more related to the flower rose. It's a very common trivia tidbit that's very cool. And one of the reasons it is not classified as a berry is because you hear the seeds are on the outside. Right? Strawberries, Famously, seeds are on the outside. But are they seeds? Are they actually seeds? What we think or what we know that are strawberry seeds on the outside is the fruit. Ah.

[D]

What?

[B]

Each one of those little things is its own fruit. What you're eating, the red fleshy part, the mass. The. The fleshy mass.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Is just the thickened flower stalk.

[C]

The host. It's just. It's just the embedding surface for the fruit.

[B]

A receptacle that's with it.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Huh.

[B]

And the actual fruit is the tiny. What we think seeds. I mean, obviously there's seeds in it, but, like, what you're eating off the strawberry that falls off.

[D]

That's the. Oh. And the seeds are inside the little, tiny.

[B]

And the seeds are inside.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

So when you're eating one strawberry, you're eating 200 fruits.

[C]

Whoa. It's like eating a whole bunch of bananas, like, in one height. Yeah.

[D]

Yes. I get. Okay, cool. I'll let my doctor know. Yeah.

[A]

I'm eating so much fruit right now.

[D]

How many fruits did you have? 200.

[B]

I ate 200 fruits.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Fruits.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

And the fleshy part is just part of the plant.

[C]

That's one of those, like, two levels of wrong. Like. Like.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[C]

It's not a berry. But not for the reason that you have been quoted. Right, Exactly. Is amazing.

[B]

Here's my last blow your mind fact about strawberries.

[C]

All right?

[B]

Most animals, and definitely most mammals, we have two sets of chromosomes. Strawberries have eight sets of chromosomes. They're called an octoploid because of their high amount of DNA. You can extract strawberry DNA in your home kitchen. You can extract DNA to a point where you can see it.

[A]

What?

[B]

That can be visible to the eye.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

How do you do this? You can look this up, essentially. I'll give you the Cliff Notes. You take a bunch of strawberries, you mash them in a Ziploc bag, you add some solution with dish detergent you sieve through, and you get the leftover juice, and then you pour, like, an alcohol solution, and that will separate the DNA material and you can see it. It's like white, clear, ish. Snot that you can scoop up with the stick. And that's literally strawberry.

[C]

Strawberry DNA.

[B]

How crazy is that? I'm gonna do that tomorrow.

[C]

As a mad kitchen scientist, you don't see DNA.

[B]

You don't. You think about it, like, being so

[C]

yellow as something that you could hold. Like, here, I'm holding some DNA. Come look at this DNA I'm holding. Right? Well, that explains why they're so expensive. They got all that. All that DNA.

[B]

All that DNA.

[C]

Right? Yeah, Right. I have a word nerd quiz for you all. Get your buzzers ready for this one.

[B]

All right.

[C]

The quiz I have built for you involves the word red. But red, unlike Chris's quiz, red does not actually appear in any of the answers to this quiz, okay? Instead, I have chosen words, English words that are etymologically related.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

To each other and read via their roots.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

This will be easier than it sounds.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

All right. All right, I gotcha. I promise to give you another hook in here. Every answer in this quiz begins with the letter R. All right?

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Red is not an answer, but they all begin with the letter R. They all. And they are all related. Let me give you an example. I will give you a short clue, and you will buzz in with the answer. All right? So if I were to say this precious gem takes its name from the Latin or red stone, you would buzz in, some of you, all of you,

[D]

if this were a real question.

[A]

Yes, Karen.

[B]

Ruby.

[C]

That's right. Ruby. Ruby is the answer. And I'll give you a little bit of the backstory here on how this is connected. Ruby, right? Which, as I mentioned, comes from Latin for rubinus lapis, red stone. And the word rubus, rubies comes ultimately from a root, R, E, U, D, H, rude, a proto Indo, European. That's right. And that root, which means reddish ruddy, is going to tie all of these, all of these words together. Same, same, same route if you trace them back far enough. All right, here we go. We will try and ramp up in difficulty here. Get your buzzers ready. Question one. This is the common name for simple iron oxide, Karen.

[B]

Rust.

[C]

It is rust. Yeah, very simple. Rust, which comes from the Old English word rust, which ultimately can trace back through related words. Roast, roosta, all the way back to that same root. R, E, U, D, H, rude, adding an S and a T, basically a suffixed form of that word rust.

[B]

Oh, thinking. Okay, but I got. I got a question, but I'll wait till the end.

[C]

Okay? Yeah. Who knows? Your question maybe show up in this quiz. That's right. All right, here we go. Next question. If you are in the kitchen making A soup. Let's say you might start by whipping up this simple flour based sauce.

[A]

Sarah, what's your hand? Is it a roux?

[C]

It is a roux. You got it. A roux. R O U X from the French. It's ultimately shortened from bear. Roux. Browned. Browned butter. And in this phrase, the rue comes from a red or reddish brown connotation originally. And we've lost some of the red over time. That's right. The roux comes from Latin again, rusus. Again back to the same root I mentioned before. The leaves from this South African plant are used to make a popular herbal tea.

[B]

Karen, I'm not sure how to properly pronounce this.

[C]

That's all right.

[D]

That's all right.

[C]

We're all friends here.

[B]

It sounds like it's spelled Rubios.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You're very close. I'm gonna give it to you. The word. The word is Roy bus.

[B]

Oh, Samsonite. I was way off. All right.

[C]

I. I know you're picturing the right word.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I trust you. Yeah. R O O I B O S. Roy Bus. And it is from an Afrikaans word which literally means red bush. Red bush. Roy Boss. Red bush. It is not caffeinated. This is why. It is. It is technically. I learned people get very snippy about this. It is technically not a tea. I learned that people don't even like the term herbal tea. The. The proper term is herbal infusion. So rooibos is herbal infusion.

[B]

It's leaf suit soup.

[C]

Yeah, it's hot leaf water. Hot leaf water. This is another name for German measles.

[D]

Oh, Rubella. It's rubella.

[B]

It is.

[C]

It's rubella. Rubella. It's the R in the mmr. It is rubella, which means rash in Latin and named after the, you know, rosy colored rashes you would get. All right, getting a little. Little more difficult here. Moving maybe a little further away from some of these meanings. Originally, an earlier sense of this word referred to special directions and notations in books of liturgy. In common use, it now means an authoritative or established rule.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Starts with an R. Starts with an

[C]

R. And think about some of these. These roots that we've been talking about.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

Oh, Karen.

[B]

Requisite.

[C]

Oh, even a little further.

[D]

Can you say it again? Can you say the question again?

[C]

An earlier sense of this word referred to special directions in books of liturgy. In common use, it means an authoritative or established rule.

[B]

What's liturgy?

[C]

Liturgy would be mean of, like a religious practice. Basically, these would be sort of like editor's notes. Of like, here's how you follow another meaning of this word can mean sort of a title or a heading, a special section often written in another color, often red. The word I'm looking for is rubric. Yes, yes. Now, we generally just mean it to mean, like, you know, the strict rules, maybe, but. Yeah. The earlier meanings of rubric were text or directions very often written in red to either introduce a section of a book or actually tell you what to do in. In the book, the rubric, this word is used to describe certain varieties of pears and potatoes. Sarah, what do you got? Screaming goat.

[A]

Russet.

[C]

It is russet. The word russet originally referred to a. A coarse woolen cloth. Okay. That was often, like, reddish brown, and it came from the old French word meaning reddish. Apparently the name russet stuck to this type of fabric cloth even after it was no longer red. And so now all that's left over is sort of the brownish connotation. So when you talk about a russet potato or a russet pear, you're really just basically saying it's. It's brown. But. But the roots. The roots of russet meant very specifically reddish. Reddish brown.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

All right, final question, final question. Moving, moving further away from the metaphorical meaning of red here, let's see if you guys can clue in if someone is strong and hardy, something. Something that has or indicates great strength, you might use this word to describe it or that person. Anything. Anything from a person to a coffee flavor.

[D]

You might use this word.

[C]

Sarah, again, what do you got?

[A]

Robust.

[C]

Yes, it is robust. Robust, from Latin robustus, which to them meant strong and hardy. But it was more metaphorical. It meant as strong as an oak. And they called the wood of the oak tree the robber robust because it had a reddish tint to the. To the wood. Two or three levels of meaning there have shifted from we have this red wood. Oh, you're strong, like this red wood. To just. Oh, you're strong and hearty. Yeah. I had a feeling the coffee might clue it. Yeah. You see that word a lot in coffee. Yeah. Yeah. All right, well, well done. Good job. You guys are well read. You clued in very well to the red words quiz. Now, Karen, I have to know, did I get to your question that you had?

[B]

Yes, it was russet.

[C]

Ah.

[B]

In the beginning, I was like, oh, is that why russet potatoes are called russet potatoes because they're, like, reddish?

[A]

Yep.

[C]

You were on the right track. You were on the red track.

[B]

You know, like how people call a shade of blonde strawberry blonde. And I think as a kid I'm just like, like. But that's not the color of strawberries. Why are you describing it? Straw? Oh, because it's like reddish. And I was like, oh, I wonder like if this came from like a marketing campaign.

[D]

Okay, okay. Yep, yep. Like chocolate diamonds or something.

[B]

Yes. Yeah. I thought it was like, oh, strawberry blonde. What a good marketing term. Turns out it's not it. Strawberry blonde was used to describe roan cattle, like horses and donkeys and stuff. And then it's like, oh, okay.

[C]

Which is also not a berry. The cow.

[A]

Little known fact, cows not berries.

[D]

If you look very closely at the outer surface of the cow, all the little dots on the cow, those are actually the cows.

[C]

They're tiny little fractal cows.

[D]

Yeah. The big thing that moves is a stalk. The cow stock.

[B]

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[A]

I have a fun thing for you as you guys learned a little bit about me being on set when I was was a kid, I thought I would take you through my quiz. Big screen tiny humans. All right. You are producing a commercial for Good job brain. And for some unknown reason you have decided to make your Lives terribly difficult and only cast minors.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

While no one really knows why you've done this, you were at least able to cast the world's most famous child actor, five year old diva McBurgerface. Right. As you are about to start your first day of production, your star refuses to come out of her trailer slash playpen because you have unknowingly broken several child labor laws. You must work together to find out where you went wrong so you can get your shots done before you push your crew into overtime. This is a multiple choice quiz and you guys can work together or be competitive and go against each other whatever works best. All right, number one, as producers, you are required to hire an on set teacher. If Diva is guaranteed how many casino consecutive days of work? Three, four, or five.

[D]

Oh, wow.

[C]

I'm gonna say it's the lower limit. Right.

[D]

If there's children involved, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna go with five because then they're missing a full week of school.

[B]

You know, I'm gonna say always pick three.

[D]

That is true. We always do say always pick three. But we also say you should always pick the middle one. Which is true.

[B]

Which is four.

[D]

Nobody's taking the middle.

[C]

We have a few rules that we can choose to agree.

[D]

3.

[A]

Okay. The correct answer is 3. You are required to produce a teacher for three or more consecutive days of work. You have also hired several of Diva's best friends that are all between the ages of 2 to 5. How many hours are these kids allowed to be at the place of employment, which is technically different than on set? So how many hours? Three, four, or six.

[D]

A day.

[A]

Correct. A day.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Place of employment is. Is like the trailer, the area where the set is.

[A]

Right. Arriving to your location.

[B]

I see, I see.

[C]

I mean, it's. It's short enough that this is why they get twins for a lot of these rules. Right, right. I mean, so what's, what's, what's. They all seem so super short, though. I mean, like, I know, like on a, like on a TV shoot. Like, like three, four, six hours. Like that's nothing.

[D]

Right.

[A]

This is specifically for two to five year olds.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Two to five year olds.

[A]

The options are three, four, or six.

[B]

I'm gonna choose three again.

[D]

You should, you should.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You guys ready? The answer for this one is six.

[C]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[B]

Well, I guess that includes, like hair

[D]

and makeup and just sitting around and.

[A]

Yep. And just sitting around in between takes. That's also part of it. Moving on here. Oh, you Hear Diva is having a total meltdown because you guys set her call time too early and now she is so tired that she can't even. You have to adjust her call time to no earlier than 5am, 6am or 7am what is the earliest you can call a 2 to 5 year old to set? 5, 6 or 7am I mean, it's

[B]

got to be the latest one.

[D]

It doesn't have to be. I'll go, I'll go with 6am I'll go with 7.

[C]

I, I think Karen's right on this one. I'll go with seven too.

[A]

All of your parent brains are being too kind to you. It is technically 5am that's so hard. I know. Think of this as a parent now. This is not necessarily what people will do. It's what the California law is. Okay, moving forward here, while trying to decipher how to keep Diva in line, you learned that she started acting professionally at the youngest age possible. How old was acting professionally on set and getting paid for it?

[D]

Oh my gosh.

[A]

10 days old. 15 days old or 20 days old.

[C]

Amazing. The upper limit is 20 days.

[D]

Yeah, well, for like, you know, newborns.

[C]

I mean, I get it, I get it.

[D]

Yep, yep. I'll, I will, I'll go 10.

[C]

I'll say 10. I'll say 10. I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking like the TV industry. What's the, like, what can we get away with, right?

[A]

It's like they have to clear. Have to clear something.

[D]

You have to clear. The umbilical cord has to fall off.

[A]

Guys, you should have gone with B. It's 15 days.

[C]

Okay, all right.

[A]

Imagine taking your two week and one day old baby.

[D]

Two set to set.

[A]

All right. You learn that Diva's first ever gig at 15 days old was for the commercial for the newborn Chaos containment unit. Diva's parents learned that all the coordination around naps, feeding and other general baby chaos has to fit into a maximum time of place at the employment. So this is again, not for a 2 to 6 year old. This is for a fifth. 15 day old person. Is your maximum time at the place of employment 90 minutes? 120 minutes or 150 minutes?

[B]

I'm saying 90.

[C]

I could say 90 or 150. I could see it being like, like you got to get two hours in there, maybe just pushing it.

[D]

But you also have to take into account like if that's everything, that's all the waiting around and everything and like, you know, you need a little bit of buffer time that's 100, 120 minutes. Why not? I've been wrong every question so far.

[A]

Yay, you got this one right. Yeah, it was 120 minutes. How many of those 120 minutes could diva actually spend working? And that's going to include hair, makeup, wardrobe, time spent acting and anything like that. How many of those 120 minutes could Diva actually work? 10 minutes, 15 minutes or 20 minutes?

[D]

Oh, gosh. Well, I mean, what. The role that Diva mcburger face is clearly playing here is baby that just came out of someone, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

This would only be for like delivered a newborn baby on tv. Like any, any other role would be filled by somebody older. Wouldn't be a 15 year old baby.

[B]

Right, Got it.

[D]

You'd only do that if you wanted max realism and not like, you see some TV shows where they're like, here's your new baby and the kid's like 2.

[A]

And this age is also normally where they would have like a fake baby that just is never turned to the camera. Right. And you hear the baby crying, but it's just post. It's just sound.

[D]

And then you cut, and then you cut to like like one shot.

[A]

Shot of this one.

[D]

One baby.

[B]

They have a dummy baby then close up, then that's the baby. Okay, I'm going with the lowest amount. What is that, 10 minutes?

[A]

10.

[C]

10 minutes?

[D]

15. 15.

[A]

20 minutes. You guys got a whole luxurious 20 minutes with that 15 day old.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Lights, camera, action. It is time for D. VA's very first take ever. How long within that 20 minutes can D. VA be exposed to the lights?

[D]

Oh, man.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

30 seconds at a time. 60 seconds at a time or 90 seconds at a time?

[C]

I'm just doubting myself on everything now.

[D]

Right.

[C]

30 seconds. 60 seconds at a time.

[D]

I'll go 90. I'll go 90.

[A]

It's 30 seconds at a time. Just enough for that, for some person to bring a baby's face right in. They put a camera right there and go, wow, do what? Whatever you're gonna do. 15 day old baby. And then that's, that's the whole shot. So to your point earlier, this is exactly why they hire twins. Yeah. Obviously as you get to, you know, between 15, I think it was like 15 days and like six months or something. Some ridiculously big change in a baby. They, they do change these rules, right? Those newborn Gerber babies, they're twins or if they can get their hands on triplets, right?

[C]

Oh, yeah, we're shooting all day. I mean, it's one of Those things where, like, the regulations tell the story right? I mean, like, we're seeing the end result of how we got to these super demarcated time boundaries. Wow.

[A]

Yes. All right, let's take it back to present day. You are now armed with an unsettling amount of knowledge about newborn labor laws, and you three rush in to correct all your mistakes. Congratulations. You have proved to Diva that you care deeply about child labor laws, and she will now come out of her trailer slash playpen. She is ready to work, and you just barely managed to finish all of your shots before your crew goes into overtime. Good job, producer brains. What did you learn from this? Always hire actors that are twins or 6 years old or older.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. It reminds me of, like, who was it? Someone mentioned they were filming Beethoven the Sequel or Beethoven the Second, and it was all about Beethoven's, like, St. Bernard puppies, and they ran through.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

200 puppies.

[C]

Yeah, because they grow so fast, and

[B]

it's like, new litter. A new litter.

[D]

New litter.

[C]

Yeah, just keep them coming. Like, just get them in timer, shoot them. Next one. Yeah, they're growing over the course of the shot.

[B]

I have a crazy question and. And feel free to not answer it. How much money did you get paid?

[A]

That's a great question. Let's all live in a world where I was 8, so I don't know that I fully remember this.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

But I think I made about five grand. Between my rate for being on set not as background, but as principal actor, plus whatever residuals I made, I honestly, I think my parents would probably remember a little bit better than I do, because there's a bunch of protected rules about, like, how much a child actor can actually, like, get out of their paycheck until they're whatever age. I remember it as me making probably five grand, but it could also probably have been, like, two.

[D]

Did you buy anything with the money that you remember?

[A]

Like, I'm super sure that I did, but nothing is, like. It's, like, immediately popping out.

[C]

I'm not joking. I would have worked for French fries, like, if you told me, like, they would just pay me in, like, oh, we'll give you, like, all the French fries you could eat in a month. I'd be like, oh, man.

[B]

Oh, did you get a lifetime, like, any perks? Like, McDonald's.

[A]

So I. I really hoped that I was gonna get that. I do remember going into, like, my local McDonald's when the. When it aired, and I was like, you want to give me anything free, right?

[B]

Say the line.

[D]

Sarah

[B]

well, that's our show, everybody. Thank you all for joining me. Thank you, Sarah, for being our special guest this episode. It was super fun. Hope you learned stuff today about Arch Deluxe, about Strawberries and Red titles. You can find us on all major podcast apps and on our website, goodjobbrain.com this podcast is part of Airwave Media podcast network. Visit airwavemedia.com to listen and subscribe to other shows like the History Channel, Minute Earth, and Bibliophage. And we'll see you next week.

[C]

Bye.

[A]

Bye.

[B]

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