308: Orange You Glad?

Summary

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Good Job, Brain! Episode 308: Orange You Glad?

Air Date: May 20, 2026
Hosts: Karen (B), Colin (A), Chris (C)
Theme: All things orange! From quirky trivia and pub quizzes to American Chinese food, Gatorade’s history, orange animals, and tigers—this episode digs deep into the “orangey” side of history, food, and games.

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Episode Overview

A bright, bouncy trivia romp devoted to everything orange—orange foods, orange drinks, orange animals, and especially tigers! Listeners get pub-style quizzing, fascinating origin stories (like Gatorade and Panda Express's famous dish), brain-teasing games, and plenty of laugh-out-loud moments. The hosts combine their trademark pub trivia banter with deep-dives into Americana and offbeat facts, all orbiting the color orange.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pub Quirks and Quizzes

[02:15]

• The team shares a delightfully odd news story about Winel's Oyster House in Mobile, Alabama. A "decades-old" sign promised “free oysters to any man 80 years old, accompanied by his father”—and two men, now 99 and 80, finally claimed the prize.
• The hosts marvel at the unintended long-term consequences of jokey bar signs and how family traditions can become local legend.
• Quirky bar sign lore: The classic riddle "IITYWYBAD" ("If I tell you, will you buy a drink?") prompts a round of groan-worthy dad jokes.

2. General Trivia Segment

[08:52]
Karen leads a speed round with Trivial Pursuit questions. Highlights include:

• The story of the original London Bridge now residing in Arizona.
• Alexander Calder’s invention of the “mobile” as a hanging art form.
• “How many cubes in a Boggle game?” (A: 16)
• Nigeria identified as the most populous African nation.
• A Melville novel nicknamed “Tragic comic bubble and squeak” (A: Moby-Dick).

Notable quote:

“I can only name one [Melville novel].”
—Chris, 15:05

3. The Origin of Gatorade & The Orange Bowl

[17:16]
Colin offers an in-depth, narrative look at how Gatorade was invented and its first big break at the Orange Bowl football game.

• Bowl Game Basics: Bowl games are traditional end-of-year, high-profile college football events, their names linked to stadium shapes (the Rose Bowl, Orange Bowl, etc.).
• Gatorade’s Birth: In 1965, University of Florida doctors tackled the problem of players’ dramatic in-game weight loss by inventing a new hydration formula—initially called “Cade’s Aid.”
• The Impact: The product helped Florida Gators outlast opponents in blistering Florida heat, especially during the 1967 Orange Bowl.
• Commercial Success & Legal Saga: After its sports debut, the NFL took notice, Gatorade became a commercial sensation, and the University of Florida eventually settled for a lucrative share of royalties.
• Flavor Facts: The original Gatorade was only available in lemon-lime and orange for years, and the "-ade" suffix was chosen intentionally.

Notable quote:

“After the game, the Georgia Tech head coach was quoted saying, ‘We didn't have Gatorade. That made the difference.’”
—Colin, 27:44

4. Orange Animals & Famous Tigers Quiz

[33:34]
Karen shifts to trivia about orange animals, with a deep dive into tigers both real and fictitious:

• Olympic mascot Hodori (“Tiger Boy”) from the 1988 Seoul Olympics.
• Idris Elba as Shere Khan in Disney’s Jungle Book remake.
• Daniel Tiger as the animated successor to Mr. Rogers.
• Tony the Tiger and the international branding of Frosted Flakes (“Frosties”).
• NCAA football teams with tiger mascots and their collaboration for tiger conservation.
• Literature and pop culture: “Richard Parker” in Life of Pi, the origins of Calvin & Hobbes’ names, Eye of the Tiger’s backstory, Tigger’s tops made of rubber (and bottoms made of springs).

Notable quote:

“You might know him better as Stringer Bell.”
—Karen, 36:36 (Idris Elba/Sheer Khan question)

5. Original Puzzle Game: A Clockwise Orange

[42:37]
Chris debuts a new, clock-face word puzzle where the letters O-R-A-N-G-E are arranged around a circle and clues require inserting new letters to spell thematic words (e.g., “get,” “air,” “ogre,” “tropic”). The puzzle is both inventive and collaborative, resonating with the group’s love of wordplay.

Notable moment:
Hosts gamely sketch clock faces and savor the innovation—Karen triumphs in the end by revealing the hidden final answer.

6. Orange Chicken: American Chinese vs. Authentic Chinese Cuisine Quiz

[49:42]
Karen quizzes the crew on the true origins of popular Chinese restaurant dishes. Dishes include:

• Chow Mein: Chinese
• Crab Rangoon: American
• Kung Pao Chicken: Chinese
• Broccoli Beef: American (due to use of Western broccoli)
• Fortune Cookie: American
• Lemon Chicken: Chinese
• Sweet & Sour Pork: Chinese
• Egg Foo Young: Chinese; "St. Paul sandwich" is American
• Chinese Chicken Salad: American
• General Tso’s Chicken: American

Fun facts:

• Panda Express’s orange chicken debuted in Hawaii (1987); actual orange oil is used in the sauce.
• Many beloved “Chinese” dishes are American inventions; fortune cookies originated in California.

Notable quotes:

“Is there actual orange in orange chicken?... There is orange oil in orange chicken. Fresh orange oil.”
—Karen, 51:00

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Winning Free Oysters Through Sheer Longevity:

  “Has anyone ever claimed this offer? The restaurant says, no, nobody has ever claimed this offer.”
  —Colin, 02:57

• On College Football’s Quirky History:

  “The Orange Bowl is a yearly college football game in Florida and is actually one of the oldest bowl games.”
  —Colin, 17:55

• On the Accidental Invention of Gatorade:

  “By all accounts, it tasted terrible. Just, just awful.”
  —Colin, 23:11

• On American Chinese Food Oddities:

  “What is up with a combination of imitation crab and cream cheese?”
  —Karen, 53:43
  “That was invented by Trader Vic’s.”
  —Chris, 53:20

• On Word Games:

  “You have the word orange and a clock... Clockwise Orange. I like it.”
  —Colin, 49:11

• On Panda Express vs. Real Chinese Food:

  “Funny how orange chicken is not [traditional], but lemon chicken is.”
  —Karen, 56:48

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [00:15] — Episode intro and soda banter
• [02:15] — The free oyster bar sign story
• [08:52] — Trivial Pursuit “pop quiz hotshot” round
• [17:16] — History of the Orange Bowl and Gatorade
• [33:34] — Orange animals & famous tigers trivia
• [42:37] — Chris introduces the “Clockwise Orange” puzzle
• [49:42] — Quiz: American Chinese food inventions
• [60:05] — Show outro and recap

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Episode Vibe and Tone

• Language & Tone:
  Lighthearted, zippy, and peppered with puns and running jokes. The group’s rapport is lively and self-aware, with banter that balances well-researched trivia and spontaneous humor.
• For Listeners:
  A perfect episode for fans of word puzzles, curious eaters, sports trivia buffs, and anyone who wonders why Tiger mascots unite or why orange chicken tastes just so good.

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Final Thoughts

“Aren’t you glad you stuck with us?” The episode is a masterclass in themed trivia—a delight for anyone who loves learning unexpected facts about the familiar (and the not-so-familiar), while laughing along with passionate, knowledgeable hosts who push the boundaries of the classic quiz show formula.

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Transcript

[A]

You're listening to an Airwave media podcast.

[B]

Hello, oratorians and oracles and organza organizing oranginas. Welcome to Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show and offbeat trivia podcast. This is episode three, 308. And of course, I'm your humble host, Karen. And we are your verifiably vivacious victors, voracious for vocabulary vuvuzelas and Vivian Westwood.

[A]

I'm Colin.

[C]

And I'm Chris.

[A]

Not expecting the Vivian Westwood swerve at the end there. Really caught me off guard.

[C]

Seem to have thrown you for a little bit of a loop there.

[A]

Yeah, I do love a good Orangina, though. Karen, I have to tell you. Want to just. I mean, rushing for my money. Maybe. Maybe the best soda.

[B]

Soda. Oh, okay. My favorite soda of all time. And I've shared this on the show. Michigan's own Vernor's Ginger Ale.

[A]

Also great. I think you and I have. Yeah, yeah. Agreed that. We both love that. Yeah, it's.

[B]

It's the best soda. It's the best soda, Chris.

[C]

I'm thinking about it because I kind of stopped drinking. Yeah, a lot of fizzy beverages. It's probably that stuff. Best Beverly that you can get at Walt Disney World.

[B]

No, that's a troll answer. That's a troll answer.

[C]

No, it's great. Go try it.

[B]

For listeners who don't know, at Epcot, at Walt Disney World in Orlando, there is a Coca Cola Plaza. And the fun part is you get to have samples like various other Coca Cola sodas that they own around the world. And Beverly is, I believe in an Italian soda.

[C]

Mm. It's like, it's like a.

[B]

It's bitter.

[C]

It's like an after dinner drink sort of thing, you know, it's bitters. It's bitter. It's bitter. It's bitter.

[B]

Tannic.

[A]

I kind of like those. I do. I do kind of like those. I'm curious now. Do you guys remember how when we would play pub quiz at a lot of the pubs and bars, a lot of these places have like wacky and kooky signs and jokey little hand painted sayings on the wall?

[C]

Right?

[A]

And I came across a story that tickled me so much because it's like, what if one of those signs like came back to bite the owner somehow? Here's a. Here's a headline. I saw this, reported a few places. There's a headline I want to share with you. Father 99 and son 80, feast on free oysters after cashing in on decades old restaurant promise. So here's the story. So this is about a restaurant in Mobile, Alabama called Winel's Oyster House. And this place has been there for decades and decades. And apparently the original owner, you know, was this larger than life personality, I guess. And one of the things that he liked to do is he would put up these jokey, often hand painted signs on the walls and things like that. And one of the signs that's been on the walls here at Winel's Oyster House for decades says free oysters to any man 80 years old, accompanied by his father. And all right, so now the Rush family, okay, dad Jim Rush and his, his son Jimmy rush, since, since 1972, have been plotting to come back and get their free oysters someday. That like decades now in the making. The sign has been there. They would go to this place, it's a family tradition. They would get the oysters sign. And I think, you know, they're like, well, look, we're fairly close in age, right? They're 19 years apart, right? Big Jim was a, was a young dad. So sure enough, just a couple weeks ago, Jimmy Rush turned 80 years old and he and his dad rolled into Winso's Oyster House, are like, we're here for our free oysters. And they cleaned up, they ate so many oysters. Now they this the news coverage. Like they got interviewed by multiple news outlets about this. It was just a great, great kind of feel good, fun story. They said that like, you know, in the years leading up to this, they would call the restaurant periodically, like, do you still have this? Yeah, do you still have this offer? Is it still good? They're like, has anyone ever claimed this offer? The restaurant says, no, nobody has ever claimed this offer. I saw an article on the cbc. They interviewed the current owner of Wenzels and he said, you know, you gotta remember this is a long time ago and people are living a little bit longer compared to when the original owner put this sign up, thinking he would never in a million years have to honor. Yeah. Pay off on an 80 year old man and his dad rolling in to get their free oysters. But they did. They did. And they, they, they're good for it. And I didn't even think about this, you know, once I got past the haha.

[B]

Can they go there the next day?

[A]

Can they go there the next day, Karen? Exactly right. Could they go there the day after? Could they? Anytime? The restaurant said, yep. The restaurant said, yep. Keep coming in as long as you, as long as your dad's with you, as long as you are Here with your 99 year old father, we will continue to grant you your free oysters. Yeah, it is nice. Yeah. The restaurant, I think, you know, realizing it'd be pretty bad P.R. maybe not to. Not to.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And how, how far away from this restaurant do they actually live?

[A]

Well, so they use. Yeah, so they used to live much closer. They now live in Florida. Apparently they travel to Wenel's after Mardi Gras every year. So it's a bit of a family, family thing to go there. But yeah, now that they're in Jimmy's 80, you know, 80th year, they might be going a little more frequently. And as a footnote almost to the story, they note that Jimmy has a younger brother Carl who turns 80 next year. And you better believe me that they are planning to clean up again next year. Like they're bringing like they're having a party there. So, you know, I hope Big Jim is still around to. At 100 to, to come in and, and celebrate his, his second. I know.

[C]

Speaking of which, you know, you remind me. I was in the legendary Tommy's joint in San Francisco back. Oh yeah, yeah, A few years back, sitting at the bar eating my, my plate of, you know, my, my hofbrau plate of random meat and vegetables. And there was a sign behind the bar and it was just the letters. The letters. I, I T Y W Y B A D Ha.

[A]

I know this one behind.

[C]

You know this one. Yeah, well, I didn't know this one. I was sitting there, I sit there thinking about it, thinking about it, thinking about it. I'm like, okay, I have to be able to solve this. And, and I. And I solved it.

[B]

Sorry, say it again.

[C]

Sure, sure, sure. Just the letters on an engraved wooden sign very, very visible behind the bar says I I T Y W Y B A D are the letters on the sign. And just thinking about it, thinking about it, thinking about it. And did dawn on me I did actually solve. Okay, okay, so I'll give it to you. So Karen, you, you be the, you be me sitting at the bar and you can't figure it out. And I'll be the bartender and I come over and I'm like, hi, I'm the bartender. And you say, hi bartender.

[B]

What is the sign? I I T Y W Y B

[C]

A D Mean if I tell you, will you buy a drink? Okay, sure. What does it mean?

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

Now you get into a whole little

[A]

like who's on first routine with the guy. Yeah, I'll buy you two drinks. Just tell me I remember seeing that with my family as a kid. We were out to eat at the legendary Trader Vic's. Oh, yeah, this is the one down south, I believe. And it was on a cocktail napkin. And my dad. My mom and dad were just scrutinizing and scrutinizing and they were. It was like. It was just like I could see the waiter just waiting, just so. Just so happy. He knows it's coming. He sees my dad trying to figure it out. Yet, as I recall, theirs was maybe slightly. It was like, if I tell you what it means, will you buy me a drink?

[C]

So it was like, will you buy me a drink?

[A]

Yes. Yes.

[C]

That's great. Yep.

[A]

I heard. I mean, not to turn this into the dad joke hour, but I heard a great dad joke. And I have to credit one of my daughter's many, like, YouTube shorts that she was watching. Here's the joke. Did you hear they stole the toilet out of the police station?

[C]

No.

[B]

No.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

The cops have nothing to go on.

[B]

All right, time to answer some trivia questions. It's our first general trivia segment. Pop quiz, hotshot. And here I have two random Trivial Pursuit cards. You guys have your barnyard buzzers. Listeners, play along. Let's answer some questions now. First up, let's do chronological order of Genus 2 and Genus 4.

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4.

[B]

Let's do two first. Here we go. Blue edge for geography. What Southern state put quote first in freedom on its license plate? We talk about license plates a lot. We talk about.

[A]

Yeah, we did.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, we did.

[C]

First in freedom,

[B]

Chris.

[C]

Virginia.

[A]

I was also going to guess Virginia in my mind.

[B]

Correct. North Carolina.

[C]

North Carolina.

[B]

Next question. Here we go. Pink wedge for entertainment. How much money. How much money are Dumbo's ears insured for in the movie?

[C]

I think so.

[B]

Colin.

[A]

I'm just gonna say a million dollars.

[B]

Yellow edge for history. What British landmark was classed by U.S. customs officials as a large antique? Colin?

[A]

I'm gonna guess that is when they imported London Bridge into Arizona, right? Yeah.

[C]

Really?

[A]

The old. The old London Bridge? Yes. Which is now residing in great state of Arizona.

[C]

Huh.

[B]

I didn't know that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So. So the original London Bridge, they shipped it?

[A]

Yeah, I believe they, you know, disassembled it. I don't think it was like. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Okay, good to know. This is brown wedge for arts and literature. What hanging art form did Alexander Calder invent, Colin?

[A]

The Mobile. As in Mobile, Alabama.

[B]

The Mobile. Mobile. Mobile.

[A]

Not related to the city. Yes.

[B]

Green wedge for science and nature. What color is a painted bunting's Head. I don't even know what that's asking. Must be a bird.

[A]

Like a painted. An animal, right? Certainly.

[D]

Let's see.

[A]

A painted buntings. I don't know. Take a crack at it, Chris.

[B]

It is a bird. Oh, it's cute.

[C]

Okay. Red.

[B]

Incorrect.

[C]

I guess that would make it like a target.

[A]

The painted blue.

[B]

It is blue. Okay, this bird looks like it was painted by a kindergartner. It's like all the colors. All right, here we go. Last question on this card. Orange wedge for sports and leisure. How many letter cubes are there in a boggle game?

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Not to be confused with big boggle.

[C]

Oh, sure.

[B]

Oh, okay, Colin, take a guess.

[A]

16.

[B]

It is 16. 4x4.

[C]

I was going to guess it was 25.

[B]

Yeah, it's five by five.

[C]

That's Big Boggle. Big boggle. Big boggle.

[B]

All right, next card. Genus for blue wedge for people and places. What's the most populous African nation?

[C]

Ooh. Oh,

[B]

good question.

[C]

According to this genus. Four card.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Right. As of that year, most populous.

[B]

All right, Colin.

[A]

Nigeria.

[B]

Correct. It's hard and it still is true.

[C]

Okay, good to know.

[B]

Based on 2025 estimates, yes, maybe up to 239 million. Number two is Ethiopia at 135 million number. But yes, still true. Nigeria. All right, pink wedge. Arts and entertainment. What? 1996 movie title came from a Louisiana prison guard's cry as a convict is escorted to his execution. Chris.

[C]

Dead man walking.

[B]

Dead man walking. Starring Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon. Very good. Yellow egg for history. Who was the first female native American to appear on US Currency?

[C]

Oh, I mean, Chris knows too much.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, right, right.

[B]

Colin.

[A]

I'm gonna go. Joe Blog's answer.

[C]

Sacagawea on US Currency.

[B]

Yeah. Not necessarily coin.

[C]

Right, right, right. I'll say. Maybe Pocahontas showed up at some point.

[B]

It is Pocahontas. Yeah. Sacagawea dollar might be more recent.

[A]

Yeah, it was more salient for me.

[C]

Does it give any more information?

[B]

No, but I bet we just says Pocahontas. I guess we'll just never know.

[A]

Unknowable.

[B]

Pocahontas was the first real woman featured on U. S. Paper currency, appearing on the reverse of the 20 national banknote from 1865 to 1869 and again in 1875. It's like a group scene. All right, Purple wedge for science in nature. What? Barnyard animals. Fat was the main ingredient in explosives through World War II.

[C]

Awesome, awesome.

[B]

Okay, Chris.

[C]

Chicken.

[B]

Oh, incorrect.

[C]

Probably not.

[B]

Colin.

[A]

Pig.

[C]

Pig.

[B]

Pig. Green Wedge for Sports and leisure. What NFL team won the most games in the 1970s?

[C]

Wow.

[A]

50 years ago, was it the Pittsburgh Steelers?

[B]

Incorrect.

[A]

Okay,

[C]

49ers.

[B]

The Dallas Cowboys.

[C]

Good for them.

[B]

Good for them. And then, last question. Pop quiz, hotshot. This is wild card Orange wedge. What Herman Melville book did one critic dub? Tragic comic bubble and squeak. I can only name one.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Chris.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Moby Dick or the Whale.

[B]

Oh, yes, that's right.

[A]

That's the title.

[B]

Good one.

[C]

Is that it?

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Great. Oh, it's that Moby Dash.

[B]

Dick.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Good job.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Oh, there is a hyphen.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yep, yep, yep.

[B]

All right, this week's episode, inspired by many dinners I had in the past week. I live close to a Panda Express, and I think I speak for most people in this world. The only thing you really want from Panda Express is their delicious, succulent, crunchy, sticky best dish on the menu, Orange chicken. Who doesn't love orange chicken?

[C]

If you are going to get orange chicken, you should just get it from Panda Express. Because I feel like I have tried orange chicken elsewhere. Chinese restaurants, you know what I mean? And I've. I've gone out there, searched the world for it, and even if everything else on the menu at this Chinese restaurant is better than everything else at Panda Express, we. Which is often true, it's like the orange chicken, they absolutely nail it at Panda Express. It is the perfect balance of. It doesn't have too much breading on it. The orange sauce that they have is delicious.

[B]

And it's crunchy. It's crunchy.

[C]

Crunchy. It stays.

[A]

What, are you gonna not order it? I mean, come on.

[B]

What are my two entrees gonna be?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Ah, who am I kidding? Just give me double orange chicken.

[C]

Just. Well, if. When you get double sometimes, too, they put a little extra in the middle. You know what I mean?

[A]

If you get double the bridge.

[C]

So there's a bridge. There's a reason to do it. But it's true, they nail every element of what makes orange chicken good. Orange chicken.

[B]

So, inspired by that today's topic, we're going to talk about some orangey things. So this week, aren't you glad I didn't say banana?

[A]

Okay, I know you guys are not only huge sports fans, but in particular, you cannot get enough anecdotes about 1960s college football. Am I right? Right. Both of you guys. Listeners. They're nodding. They're nodding. So allow me to indulge you with a story about the 1967 Orange Bowl. What is, what is the Orange Bowl? Do you want to, you want to take a real quick crack at explaining it? Not a quiz. I'm just legitimately curious if you know what the Orange Bowl.

[B]

There's the Rose Bowl.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Which is college football in California. So I would assume Orange bowl is some sort of college football in Florida.

[A]

Amazing and perfectly accurate. Yes. The, the Orange bowl is a yearly college football game in Florida and is actually one of the oldest original college bowl games. What is a bowl game? I'm going to give you the 10, the 10 second explanation for, for a

[B]

non sports fan here ever asked myself that.

[A]

Okay. All right. All you need to know about the bowl games in general is they are high profile end of year games.

[B]

Okay? Okay.

[A]

For most of their history, the bowl games were somewhere between regional promotion and a TV event and regional appeal.

[B]

Why is it called bowl.

[A]

It's really.

[C]

Right.

[A]

So the, the original bowl game was the Rose bowl game. And the name of it takes its name from the shape of the stadium. It is a bowl stadium.

[C]

Got it.

[A]

And a lot of the bowl games also shared the name with the stadium that they played in. Again, this is not always the case anymore, but it was for a very long time.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So yeah, the Rose bowl kind of set the template so. Right. The Orange Bowl. In 1967, the Orange bowl was a solidly big ticket game. And that year, following the 1966 season, the game featured the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets, the number eight team in the country, and the University of Florida Gators, who were pretty good. They had an 8 and 2 record. They had a star quarterback named Steve Spurrier. He won the Heisman Trophy that year. Very prestigious award in college football given to the top player. The interesting part, for the purposes of our show, I know where you're going. This year in the Orange bowl, the Florida Gators had a not so secret weapon. And it was not quarterback Steve Spurrier. It was a somewhat humble lab created beverage that came to be known as Gatorade. Gatorade, as in the Florida Gators. And you guys may have heard this as well. This is not some crazy trivia fact that Gatorade was named after the Florida Gators and did come out of the

[B]

US it was invented there.

[A]

Proper. It was invented there and it was crafted for the football team. And I knew that they've incorporated that into their marketing over the years too. You know, backed by science and you know, like it makes it feel very believable, like this sport, drink. But it's all true. It really did come out of. Out of a university research lab intended to enhance athletic performance. But. So I knew that, but I had no idea until I started looking into this a little bit how stark a difference this. This fluid made for the team and how big a revolution it was, just like in the world of sports, period. All right, so early in the 1965 season, one of the Florida football assistant coaches called on Dr. Robert Cade, who was a kidney specialist at the University of Florida College of Medicine.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And this assistant coach, a man named Dwayne Douglas, who played for the Gators himself, he also played in the NFL professionally. This was a football lifer. He went to Dr. Cade and he asked him a few questions. He basically asked him, why do our players lose so much weight during the games? Oh, he told. He told Dr. Kate that he himself once lost 18 pounds in a football game. Now, admittedly, football players may be larger than your average. 18 pounds is a lot. Is a lot.

[B]

That's nuts.

[A]

It is nuts. It is totally nuts. And a related question. How come our players don't have to pee even if they're drinking water during the game? And they talked for a bit. They. They realized something that seems like common sense today. Like, no, duh. But, like, this was a breakthrough idea then, and that is the players were sweating so much. They were sweating out so much that they could not replenish it with water. It was not possible. They were losing electrolytes like sodium and potassium, and it was putting their systems out of whack. And this is why they were losing weight mostly to water. Like, it was like 90, 95% of the weight they were losing was water weight. They were sweating all the fluid out, but they also weren't feeling like at peak performance because their systems were out of whack. So Cade and his team, they asked the head football coach, man named Ray Graves if they could use some of his team's players as guinea pigs for an experiment on hydration. And Coach Graves, to his credit, he said yes. He's like, ah, you can take some guys from the freshman team, you can monkey around with them and see what's going on. And sure enough, they. They found that the football routines these players were going through just took a ridiculous toll on their bodies. Low blood sugar, electrolytes out of whack, low plasma volume, low blood volume. Not great stuff. Like, if you're trying to compete at a high level, especially down in Florida, heat and humidity.

[B]

Wow. So up until this point, it was just kind of like, oh, yeah, this is just what happens up until this

[A]

point, it was three things. It was. This is just what happens. Just tough it out and have some water. They just didn't know what to do. They didn't. They were pushing the players so hard. So Kaden, his team developed a concoction of water, salt, fructose, which is a sugar, and electrolytes, sodium citrate and monopotassium phosphates. And by all accounts, it tasted terrible. Just, just awful. Just simply terrible. Players.

[C]

They hadn't, they had not yet come up with Baja Black spitting it out.

[A]

No and no. Yeah, I mean, that technology just wasn't there yet, Chris. They were, they were just. They were. There's the building blocks.

[C]

Slow down.

[A]

Of the industry. As with so many great invention stories, it was the inventor's spouse to the rescue. Kade's wife Mary suggested, why don't you add some lemon and some sweetener, Maybe you make it taste a little better. Kind of more like a lemonade. So they did. According to the official University of Florida story, the first live test of this proto Gatorade, if you will, was in a scrimmage between the freshman team and the varsity B team. All right, so coach, Coach still was not giving them like, his, his A level players, but he was like, all right, you can run a full on test. And the B team started out ahead, the varsity B team. But after halftime, the freshman team ran away with it. They just, they, they kept up. They were scoring and scoring and scoring. They won. Showing the endurance and energy they needed and not sweating out their vitality. Yeah. So Kate said that Coach Graves came away from this scrimmage game, you know, pretty much sold. He asked, he asked if his team, Cade's team, could whip up enough of this special sauce to supply the entire team, the varsity team, in a game the next day. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Against Louisiana State, who was, by the way, the favorite. And by the way, it would be over 100 degrees. So they got in the lab, they, they whipped up as much as they could. They're getting like, squeezing lemons, like, by hand. They're making the stuff come together. Sure enough, Florida won that game. They came from behind to win that game. As you know, the LSU team was kind of fading toward the end. Yeah. At this point, Kade and his team had, like, full license to work on perfecting this formula over the coming months. Like as a bespoke.

[B]

Great project.

[A]

Yeah. Project for the football team. By the start of the 1966 season, the following year, they were stocking the team each game with, with their, you know, with their Formula and what had been called up to now Cade's Aid.

[C]

And I was gonna say, I was going to say, we know what the eventual name was. And then you told us, yes, the scientists who put it together that his name was Cade. And I was really hoping that somebody was gonna, was gonna cotton onto that along the way.

[A]

It was sort of referred to internally as Cade's Aid and Cade's Cola.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

By the 66 season, though, it was now internally as well being called Gatorade. I mean, it's just such a great name. It's just, it's named perfectly so. Over the course of that 1966 college football season, the Florida Gators indeed developed a reputation as a second half team. Like, as the team that you can't count them out. Like they're going to keep coming at you, you know, they're going to find ways to score all the way to the end.

[C]

Oh, my God. And nobody knew at this point that it was the.

[B]

Were all the other teams performance enhancing aid.

[A]

Yeah, right, right. Word was maybe starting to get out over the course of this season, but, you know, it wasn't anywhere near the level of connectivity that college football teams have today. Let's get back to that Orange bowl game. All right. Would you guys like to guess who won that game and in what fashion they won that game?

[C]

I would say that the Florida Gators won the game and they come from behind. Victory.

[A]

You're absolutely correct. That's right. Georgia Tech, although being favored, scored. They scored first. They put up six points in the first, but then the Florida Gators put up seven in the second quarter, seven more in the third quarter, 13 points in the fourth quarter, and they won the game 27 to 12. After the game, as if to tie up the narrative in a very neat little bow here, the Georgia Tech head coach was quoted saying, we didn't have Gatorade. That made the difference.

[C]

Oh,

[B]

wow.

[C]

Slap it right on the bottle.

[A]

Right on the bottle. Opposing coach. Right, Right. And so this got picked up in the wire articles, it got picked up in news coverage. Not long after this, the NFL actually started engaging. Yes, started engaging Kate and his team for Gatorade. So Robert Cade, a very smart man, obviously patent, saw the potential as a commercial product for Gatorade in the wider world, like to pro teams and, you know, the consumer market. So he wisely patented the formula to Gatorade. And at first he offered the rights to the university in exchange for them agreeing to back the product financially. Okay. And the university was lukewarm to this Idea. They weren't really that interested. No, they were not interested. And so Kate ended up signing a contract with the Stokely Van Camp Company. They produced Gatorade for a number of years, and it wasn't until the royalties from the sales started hitting significant levels that the university sort of had a change of mind and change of heart. And then all of a sudden, they were like, oh, hey, oh, wait a minute now. This was sort of developed, you know, under the auspices of, you know. Right. All of which is true. All of which is true. Right, right. So eventually, some years later, they did settle. They negotiated a settlement where the university would receive 20% of the royalty rights to Gatorade.

[B]

That's a lot.

[A]

That is a lot. That is a lot. In fact, to date, the University of Florida has made hundreds of millions of dollars off of the Gatorade royalties. Yes.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yes. Yes. A cash cow, if you will, at only 20%. So imagine how much Cade and, you know, his. His partners went on to make, which is a lot in those early years, just to bring this all full circle. So Stokely Van Camp, that came out with the product marketing it. Drink of Champions. Right. The fact that the NFL now had endorsed it, like, people were all in on Gatorade. After about a year, the original flavor was not doing so well. They introduced what would be the only two flavors of Gatorade for almost two decades. At the very beginning, it was lemon, lime, and orange, which is just a perfect way to bring it back to the Orange bowl coming out party, if you will, of Gatorade. When they were first coming up with the official product name to trademark, they were thinking, maybe it's Gator Dash Aid. Aid? Like Gatorade.

[C]

Oh, like helping the Gators.

[A]

Yeah, right. They were basically advised that they could not do that. The Food and Drug Administration told them, essentially, if you have aid on the name like that, it implies that it, like, has some sort of medicinal use, you know, and you're gonna need, like, clinical trials. And they're like, no, we're not interested in that. We're gonna go with Ade. Like lemonade. Yeah.

[C]

Or orange Aid.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

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[C]

You're listening to Good Job Brain. Smooth puzzles. Smart trivia. Good Job Brain.

[B]

Welcome back. It's our Orange episode. All right, everybody, I have a quiz. When you think of an orange animal, what's the first animal that comes to mind?

[C]

They got orange animals.

[A]

After the orange lobster, I would say tiger.

[B]

Tigers. Yes. Here I have a quiz. His famous tigers.

[C]

Nice.

[B]

Tiger trivia. Some possum. Tiger trivia. Where's my prop?

[A]

Props. She has props.

[B]

I got prop. All right, this is a Buzz in quiz. Question 1 Hodori H O D O R I Hodori, which translates to Tiger boy, debuted in 1988 as the mascot of what?

[C]

Oh, 1988.

[B]

There's clues in the question.

[A]

Hodori, Japanese product. Or is it something.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

Which translates to Tiger Boy.

[C]

Huh?

[B]

Debuted in 1988 as the mascot of what?

[A]

Hmm, Maybe it's not.

[B]

Well, Chris is fluent in Japanese.

[A]

Yeah, he would know.

[C]

Tora.

[B]

It's not hodori.

[C]

Right, right.

[A]

1988 Tiger Boy.

[B]

If you're stumped, I have a prop here that might help you. Okay, I'm gonna bring it to the camera, listeners. You can't see it, but someone might be able to describe it.

[C]

Oh, it is a tiger wearing a hat. And also the Olympic rings around his. Around his neck.

[A]

88 was Seoul, is that right?

[B]

Yes. Hodori is the mascot. Official mascot of the Olympic Games, 1988 in Seoul, Korea.

[C]

And why do you have him?

[B]

Well, I had a version of this growing up as a kid. My grandmother went to Korea during Olympics and then bought me a toy and I lost it. And then just two days ago, I went to a thrift shop and I saw this. It's the same exact. The same style.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it was like, we're buying this.

[A]

You're like, I don't care what this was.

[B]

It is my childhood. But yes, Hidori Tiger Boy is.

[A]

It looks in fantastic condition.

[B]

And funny enough, my daughter was with me. She saw it, she's like, wow, I'm gonna call you Tiger Boy. And we're like, wow, what a lame name. And then I looked it up and I was like, oh, it translates to Tiger Boy.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

All right, next question. Next. Famous tiger in 2016, Disney's live action remake of the Jungle Book. Bill Murray voiced Baloo. Scarlett Johansson voiced Ka the snake. Christopher Walken voiced King Louie. And what British actor voiced the Tiger villain?

[C]

She.

[B]

Sheer Khan. You might know him better as Stringer Bell.

[A]

Oh, Colin, it's Idris Elba.

[B]

Who is Idris Elba? Correct. Sheer Khan, the tiger. Next question. The children TV show character Daniel Tiger is the spiritual successor of whom? Chris.

[C]

Mr. Rogers.

[B]

Mr. Rogers. Yes. Debuted three years after Mr. Rogers Fred Rogers death. His legacy lives on with Daniel Tiger.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

My daughter watched that one for a while when she was that age.

[C]

Yeah, when my son was watching Daniel Tiger when he was. Yeah, like three years old or whatever.

[A]

He.

[C]

The lesson that he took from it is that if you sing it in a two line couplet, it becomes true. Because, like all the episodes of the show. And we also had this app that was, like, about, like, learning when to, you know, go to the bathroom. Like, and so it's like, if you have to go potty, stop and go right away. That's also burned into all of our brains, by the way, because of that app. But, like, there was at one point where I'm just like, it's. It's time to go to bed. You have to. You have to turn off the TV now. And he goes, but if you have trouble, watch another video. And I'm like. Like, nope, that's not what. It's not what the Daniel Tiger sings.

[B]

That's not how any of this works.

[C]

Very, very good try, though. I really apprec it.

[B]

All right, next tiger question. Tony the Tiger famously is the mascot for Frosted Flakes. It turns out we learned from Colin, Tony the Tiger has a whole family.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Frosted Flakes are known as what in Europe and in most Commonwealth countries. Oh, what is the product name of Frosted Flakes known in America, Chris?

[C]

Is it Sugar Frosted Flakes or.

[B]

No, no, shorter. It's a shorter, punchier name.

[C]

Oh, my gosh. What do they call it?

[A]

I'm sure they're so mad at myself in Japan.

[C]

To Frosty's.

[B]

Frosty, yes.

[C]

Frosty's.

[A]

It is punchier. Have to. Have to admit.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Speaking of college football, there are five major college football teams that all have tiger mascots. I would say LSU Tigers is probably the most famous. Can you name me one other?

[C]

I can.

[B]

You can?

[C]

I can.

[B]

Okay, Chris, go for it.

[C]

Clemson.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

We also have Auburn University, Clemson, lsu, Memphis Tigers, and Missouri Tigers. So University of Memphis, University of Missouri. Four of those five schools actually banded together to. To create a Voltron into a super tiger unit known as Tigers United University Consortium.

[A]

No.

[B]

And they're partnering together, dedicated to actually saving wild tigers worldwide through research and through conservation, through education. So, yes, four of the five tiger universities have banded together. Yes. I was gonna say they came into a pack, but tigers aren't really pack animals, so. But anyways. All right, next question. Buzzing if you know the answer. Richard Parker is the name of the tiger from what beloved book?

[C]

Richard Parker.

[B]

Actual tiger in the book, an actual tiger.

[A]

Colin, is it Life of PI?

[B]

It is Life of Pie.

[A]

Okay, good job.

[B]

Next question. In the comic strip Calvin and Hobbes, Calvin is the boy. Hobbes is the tiger.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Who are the titular characters named after? Full names, please.

[C]

Oh, boy.

[B]

So I gave you 50.

[A]

John Calvin.

[B]

John Calvin.

[A]

And is it Martin Lewis Hobbes.

[C]

Theodore Thomas.

[B]

John Calvin Thomas Hobbes.

[C]

Okay, philosophers. Philosophers.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Next question. One of the most famous songs of the 80s and one of the most famous movie songs in cinematic history is, of course, Eye of the Tiger by Survivor, as featured in Rocky iii. Sylvester Stallone, the star and director of Rocky iii, had commissioned the song only after what famous British band denied him the permission to use one of their sporty rock anthems?

[C]

Oh. Oh,

[B]

Chris.

[C]

Queen.

[B]

It is Queen. Sylvester Stallone wanted another One Bites the Dust so bad to be using Rocky iii, and he asked and they denied him. They said no.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

So he went to go. He asked Survivor to write Eye of the Tiger, and turns out Eye of Tiger became a huge hit.

[A]

Oh, yeah. It was like the best scenario. Right? It became a huge hit on its own. Right. And it's just indelibly tied with that, with sports.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, even today, you go to any games, they're going to play Eye of the Tiger.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Last question here about fictional tigers. The wonderful thing about tiggers. His tickers are wonderful things. Their tops are made of what their bottoms are made of. Spring.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

The wonderful thing about tiggers. Tiggers are wonderful things. Their tops are made out of what their bottoms are made of. Springs, Chris.

[C]

Rubber.

[B]

Yes, it is rubber.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, right in the cadence there. Good. Good job.

[B]

Good job, Brains.

[C]

All right, listen, listen.

[B]

Oh, jeez.

[C]

I worked for a long time on this, and this might. You might solve this very quickly, proportionate to the time it spent for me to work this all out. But we're doing it anyway. Might not work, but we're doing it anyway. Live beta testing. Let's try it out. I want you to get your writing implements and something to write upon. This could be Karen's whiteboard that she sometimes uses or just a pen and a piece of paper. If you're out there in podcast land and you're able. If you're sitting down or if you've got a pen and paper and you want to do some write down with us, go ahead. If not, hopefully this will be entertaining for you.

[A]

Anyway, I got orange marker.

[C]

Oh, okay. I saw you just.

[A]

Oh, style points.

[C]

You were just back there just like, you know, digging up the whole house. Okay, so you have your. Oh, you have like an art sketchbook and an orange marker.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Well, that's. That's fantastic for you because what I want you both to do on your piece of paper is I want you to write the word orange, but I want you to write it in a circle starting with the O at 12 o' clock and then going clockwise. The end will be at 6 o'. Clock. Okay. And leave space between the letters. Write it big and leave space between the letters. All right, now show me. Just to make sure we did this correctly. Show you what I have. Looks like this. Yep, yep, yep. Okay. Good, good, good. That all looks good. What you have here is the title of this game, which is a clockwise orange. Now we're going to play the clockwise orange. I am going to give you some clues, and the answer to each of these clues. Clues. Is a word that you will be able to find in the circular orange if you insert one more letter into the six spaces between these letters. So imagine that there's six spaces here on the board, too. There's a space between the O and the R, between the R and the A, et cetera. Right?

[A]

Got it.

[C]

Six spaces. I'm going to. I'm going to give you a clue. And the answer to that clue is a word that you'll be able to find in this if you put one letter into one of those six spaces. Okay. When you put it in, you're going to leave it in. Okay, now let me just think.

[B]

So if this were a face of a clock, O is 12 o'.

[A]

Clock.

[B]

If we go clockwise, 1 o'.

[A]

Clock.

[B]

1 o' clock is blank. 2 o' clock is R. 3 o' clock is blank. 4 o' clock is A. 5 o' clock is blank. 6 o' clock is N. 7 o' clock is blank. 8 o' clock is G. 9 o' clock is blank. 10 o' clock is E. 11 o' clock is blank.

[C]

Correct. Now, the words that you can find, they might go clockwise or they might go counterclockwise. Okay? So just know that. Now here's the thing.

[B]

Oh, geez.

[C]

Okay. Once a new letter is in the space, that letter becomes part of the game. So if you're finding where to trying to find the word and you're trying to place in a new letter, you have to take the letters that you've already placed into account as well. Okay? All right, so I'll give you. I'll give you the first one. Now, when you think you know the word for this so people can play along at home. And before you write anything in, I want you to. I want you to buzz in with your answer. Got it? Okay, so I'll give you the first clue. Word meaning receive or understand.

[A]

Okay? So they go in the rim.

[C]

They go in. They have to Go into the rim and you read around the rim. So you're not going back and forth and all around or whatever.

[B]

Am I using all letters?

[C]

No, it's. It's a word that you'll be able to find somewhere in this circle.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

If you. If you put a. If you put a letter in. Yes. A word meaning to receive or to understand.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

Oh, Karen.

[B]

Get.

[C]

It is. Get.

[B]

Ah.

[A]

So you put the T between the E and the O.

[C]

So go ahead and do that. Put that T at 11 o'. Clock. Okay. There you go.

[A]

Okay. All right.

[C]

Correct. All right, next, one of the four classical elements.

[B]

Four classical elements.

[A]

Oh, elements.

[C]

Buzz in.

[A]

Is it air?

[C]

It's air.

[B]

Oh, I see. I can go counterclockwise.

[C]

You can go clockwise or counterclockwise, as I said. Yes, yes. Yes, it is air. We're gonna put an an I between the. The A and the R. The R and the A. Put an I at three o'. Clock. Okay. First name of a Ghostbuster.

[A]

Colin egon.

[C]

Yes. Put in an o at 7 o'. Clock.

[A]

Egon spangler.

[C]

Okay. Two kings, for example. Karen.

[B]

Pear.

[C]

Pear.

[A]

Ah, nice.

[B]

He is at 5 o'. Clock.

[C]

Yes. P at 5. Place to sleep.

[B]

Oh, Karen caught C at 1 o'.

[A]

Clock.

[C]

Yep. See? At 1 o'. Clock.

[A]

Nice.

[C]

Giant monster. Colin.

[A]

Ogre.

[C]

Ogre.

[B]

Oh, I see.

[C]

Put an R at 9 o'. Clock. All right, who wants to solve the puzzle?

[B]

What? That's not. Okay, the.

[A]

Let's see here. All right, I'm looking at the new letters we added.

[C]

Huh? Oh, Karen.

[B]

Tropic.

[C]

Tropic. Going around the other way.

[A]

That's nice.

[C]

As you can see, it took me a really long time.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Probably because I wasn't really sure what I was doing at first, but you're

[B]

like, I have the word orange and I have a clock. Because. Clockwork Orange.

[C]

I can do something with this. I don't know what the.

[A]

Clockwise. Orange. I like it.

[C]

A clockwise.

[B]

I can see how this could be a new. New kind of puzzle.

[C]

This could be a. Yeah, this could be like a pen and paper puzzle type thing.

[B]

Like a highlights magazine.

[C]

Yep, yep, yep.

[B]

Wow. And then you. You spelled something with the letters, too. That's hard.

[C]

That I felt was. That I felt was very important that the two of them be themed.

[A]

I love it. I love you. You're pioneering new formats here. It's great.

[C]

Thanks. Thanks. Thank you for. Thank you for guinea pigging it. Yes.

[B]

All right. I got our last segment here. And of course, early in the show, I shared about. Well, we all shared our love for orange chicken. So here I have a segment quiz dedicated to orange chicken.

[C]

Oh, great.

[B]

Orange chicken, developed by pan Express in 1987, debuted in Hawaii, which is their Panda Express's first restaurant outside of California. So, yeah. So Panda Express, quick history. Panda Express did exist as an actual Chinese restaurant. It wasn't called Pan Express, and it wasn't until, like the 80s where they did branch out and have kind of like this fast food Chinese mall locations.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Mostly in California. The first Panda Express that opened outside of California was in Hawaii at Ala Moana center in Honolulu.

[C]

Oh, hey.

[B]

Yep. 1987.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Actually, earlier versions of orange chicken, it was not like the fried chicken nuggets we know today. It was mostly chopped chicken bits. So it did have bone. Now, here's my question. Is there actual orange in orange chicken?

[C]

Wow. This is like when I asked if there was pumpkin and pumpkin spice latte. I have certainly had orange chicken at other restaurants in which there are literally orange peels. You know what I mean? Inside. In that case, there are. Is there actual orange in the orange sauce? I think that there is, because when we buy it at the. At, like, when you buy a bottle of Panda Express sauce, like it says, like orange sauce, you know, doesn't say, like, orange flavored. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I feel like if you're saying if it's put so simply and it's called, like, orange chicken, I think that, like. Yeah, I think there is.

[A]

Hmm. Just because the way you asked the question, I'm gonna say no.

[B]

There is orange oil in orange chicken. Fresh orange oil. So. Yes, yes, yes.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

It is orange oil from the peels that is in orange chicken.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Pan Express and orange chicken is what we call American Chinese food. And this is my quiz here. I have a list of some favorite dishes you might find at a Chinese restaurant or an American Chinese restaurant or at Panda Express. And you have to tell me, is this American Chinese or is this Chinese? Is this something that was invented in America or is this something historically came from a Chinese recipe? All right, all right. Talk it out. Let me know. Maybe there's a wild card in there, and it's neither.

[A]

All right, here, third option.

[B]

Third option, chow mein, chow main, which is noodles. You get that as a main side.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

At Panda Express, stir fry noodles. Chow mein is.

[A]

What do you think? I'm gonna say that that dish broadly is. Is a. Is a historic traditional dish.

[C]

Chinese Chinese food.

[B]

It is. Chow mein literally translates to stir fried noodles. Chow mein all right, next one. Crab rangoon. Crab rangoon.

[C]

That is very American.

[A]

Got to be delicious.

[B]

Fried stuffed wonton.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

With cream cheese and imitation crab.

[C]

I believe that was invented by Trader Vicks.

[B]

Yes. Cream cheese and imitation crab, not really a traditionally found in Chinese cuisine.

[C]

A couple of years ago, we did A Feast of the Seven Fishes and I made crab bran rangoon. Man, it came out great. I'm gonna tell you, my first time ever making it. It was fantastic.

[B]

What is up with a combination of imitation crab and cream cheese?

[C]

Cream cheese, it just, it works so well. And I did make sure to use imitation crab. Very important.

[B]

Yep. Because it's sweet and then it holds

[C]

its texture and that's the thing. So, yeah, the recipe you use, it's like, it's got, it's got sugar in it. You know what I mean? It's just dip it in more stuff.

[B]

Sugar sauce.

[C]

Dip it in more sugar. Yeah.

[B]

All right, next on the menu, Kungpow chicken. Kung Pao chicken.

[A]

I, I, I, I, I believe that is traditional.

[C]

I will go. I'll go. Yeah. Yes, I'll go. China. China.

[B]

Kungpow chicken is stir fried chicken, usually in brown sauce with dried chilies. Big dry chilies kind of cut up into pieces. Chinese, Chinese. Traditional Chinese.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you eat the peppers? You can. I have to. It's a little tough.

[A]

It's a little tough.

[B]

Yeah. They're like hollow tubes.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And usually gets peanuts in there too.

[B]

All right, you guys are acing it so far. All right, next on the menu, broccoli beef. Broccoli beef, very common.

[C]

Oh, boy.

[A]

So now, I mean, I've eaten enough Chinese food to know that, you know what, what, what we call broccoli beef at most places here, like, we have. What's American broccoli? So, like, I'm thinking that this is maybe Karen's little trick here that like, oh, no, it's not. Because we have American broccoli. I'm saying not. I'm gonna say it's an American invention.

[C]

Interesting.

[B]

Colin nailed it. I personally categorize it as Chinese because there is a dish called broccoli beef. But Colin is right. The broccoli in traditional broccoli beef is Chinese broccoli, which is kind of a different vegetable. It doesn't have like all the flour bits. And then an American broccoli beef, very similar sauce, very similar preparation. Just uses western broccoli, which is the florets with the flowers. All right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Fortune cookie. Fortune cookie.

[A]

I think, I think this is maybe Karen's like Tricky.

[C]

I think you're right. Yeah, I think that's it. I thought the fortune cookie was actually a Japanese American.

[A]

Yeah, Chris, on that one. I think it was invented in America.

[B]

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Can't get past you guys. Also mentioned in a very early episode of Good Job, Brain. Yes. Invented in America. Next on the menu is lemon chicken. Lemon chicken.

[C]

Lemon chicken.

[B]

Getting all these citrus chickens.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Lemon chicken.

[A]

Oh, man. I. I remember this one, like, way back as a k. Even going to American Chinese restaurants.

[B]

Kind of a clear sauce.

[C]

Yeah, right, right, right. And it has, like, sort of analogs in, like, other cuisines too. Right. Like, you know, the. Like, chicken piccata. You know what I mean? Pairing of chicken. So I'm gonna. I'll say lemon chicken. I'm gonna go Chinese. Chinese.

[A]

I'll. I'll ride with you as well on that.

[B]

Yes, you got it. Lemon chicken is Chinese. Chinese. Yeah. Funny how orange chicken is not. The lemon chicken is. Next up, a favorite. Sweet and sour pork. Sweet and sour pork.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Again, that's so. It's so. It's such an older dish that I feel like it probably has its origins in Chinese cuisine.

[A]

Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna say the same thing, but I could see that, like, they really ramp up the sweetness, maybe for American.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. Like, it does sort of seem like American taste, however, probably one of those things where it's like, maybe the dish is different, but I'm still gonna go with sweet and sour pork being something that originates from, like, mainland Chinese food.

[A]

Me too. Me too.

[B]

You are correct. Sweet and sour pork literally translate to sugar and vinegar pork.

[C]

Oh, sure.

[B]

Traditional Chinese. And you know what?

[C]

Not that different.

[B]

Not that different. Next up, egg foo young. Egg. What is it? It's kind of like an omelette.

[C]

Yeah, very.

[A]

I think this is an American one. I think this is an American one.

[C]

I'll kind of split here, and I'll go. I'll go. I'll go. Chinese. Chinese. Traditional Chinese.

[B]

It is Chinese. Chinese. A couple of different omelet items. Yes, yes. Egg foo young is Chinese, but the St. Paul sandwich.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

Is American Chinese, which is egg foo young between two slices of bread. And that's called a St. Paul sandwich. Oh, one of my favorites. Chinese chicken salad. Chinese chicken salad.

[A]

Oh, come on. That just feels so American.

[C]

That was invented by McDonald's. I'll go. Well, I don't know. I don't know. Can you just describe Chinese chicken salad to us?

[B]

Yes. Has pieces of chicken served cold with Shredded veg, like cabbage, carrots, usually with peanuts, cilantro in a kind of a sesame oil sauce tossed together.

[A]

It's delicious. It's one of my favorites. I'm gonna say American.

[B]

It is American. American invented in Hollywood and trendy Chinese restaurant in the golden age of Hollywood. And we have last on the list, General Toast Chicken.

[C]

Yeah, American. The classic American Chinese.

[A]

I. I'm gonna go the other way with you. I'm gonna go the other way and say that I feel like this one does have it. Have it. Some roots like, like the, the. The dish named after the general. And I would say it's got traditional roots.

[C]

I think everything has some kind of roots. You know what I mean? Like it came from somewhere. But fundamentally, I mean, I think the, the first time somebody served a dish called General Tso's chicken, that was chicken nuggets that were, you know, breaded in sauce like that was that. That is the quintessential, I think, American Chinese.

[A]

All right, all right.

[B]

General to real Chinese person. Real general. But General Toast Chicken is American invention. And there you have it, our American Chinese food feast.

[A]

I'm so hungry right now.

[B]

Yeah, I got some leftover orange chicken. All right. And that is our show. Aren't you glad you stuck with us? And thank you listeners for listening. Hope you learn stuff today about Gatorade, about a clockwise orange, about famous tigers, and about orange chicken. You can find us on all major podcast apps, apps and on our website, goodjobbrain.com this podcast is part of Airwave Media podcast network. Visit airwavemedia.com to listen and subscribe to other shows like the Historian, Table, IGN Movies, Podcast, and Unspookable. And we'll see you next week.

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Bye.

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