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A (0:00)
The following is a listener supported ministry from the Grace Evangelical Society. What is the content of faith? What do we need to know about Jesus to be eternally saved? What is the bull's eye of the saving message? Thank you friend for joining us today here on Grace in Focus. This is a ministry of the Grace Evangelical Society. Our website is faithalone.org and we want you to know about our magazine Grace in Focus, published bimonthly and which has a free subscription. All you have to do is sign up for it. It's free, all except postage, which you will need to pay if you live outside of the 48 contiguous United States. Find the information on our website. Also, there is information under events for our national annual conference being held in 2026, May 18th through the 21st. All the information@faithalone.org and now with today's question and answer discussion, here are Bob Wilken and Sam.
B (1:05)
Bob, we've got a question from Eric. He asks, I wonder, if a person only had a limited information about Jesus but believed this very limited information, then would God withhold salvation from such a person? So essentially what he's asking is if someone only knows a very limited amount of information about Jesus, is that person, I guess he's saying, one, assuming they never come to believe in Jesus for everlasting life, can they be held accountable? And then two, how can that person come to believe in Jesus for everlasting life if they only ever know bits and pieces?
C (1:42)
Yeah, you know, that's a good question. This led to a whole controversy called the Crossless Gospel. And all of that started because some talks that Zane Hodges gave in our annual conference, I believe it was in 2000, and he gave two talks about how to lead a person to Christ. And what he said in these two talks was that he was concerned that he was hearing people from within GES circles who were telling people that in order to be born again, they had to believe that Jesus died for their sins and rose again. And they said nothing about that. He guarantees them everlasting life. They will never perish. Just believe that Jesus died and rose again and you can believe in work, salvation, lordship salvation, any other kind of salvation. So in this way of thinking, pretty much everybody in Christianity would be born again because Roman Catholics believe Jesus died for their sins and rose again. Eastern Orthodox believe that almost every Protestant believes that. Even the cults believe that, although some people would argue that doesn't count for them because they have a bad view of who Jesus is. They don't believe in his full deity But Hutches gave an illustration and this is what drove people nuts. He said, imagine a portion of scripture washed up on a beach in a bottle. And there was a man on this deserted island who got it, opened it up, and it was a fragment from John's Gospel. And it said, Jesus said. And then you couldn't read the intervening words. And then you could read verse 47, he who believes in me has everlasting life. And he said something along the lines of, look, I realize people aren't going to come to faith just from this, but what if they did? He said if they did, they'd be born again with no knowledge of who this Jesus is, just believing his promise that he who believes in me has everlasting life. However, he went on in the talk to say, I consider it essential to preach the cross of Christ because that's how people come to believe in the promise that he makes. He who believes in me has everlasting life. What he was not trying to say is don't preach the cross of Christ and the resurrection of Christ. What he was trying to say is make the bullseye. He who believes in me has everlasting life. Don't make the bullseye. Jesus died for your sins and rose again. Because if you do that, you're leaving the work salvation person believing in work salvation, you're leaving the lordship salvation believing that it's their commitment and their perseverance and their obedience and their turning from sins that's going to get them into the kingdom, not their faith in Christ, or that's how they define faith in Christ. And so that was Hodges point. And it led to this whole brouhaha over the so called crossless gospel. Well, part of what people meant was by gospel is saving message. Well, Hodges certainly didn't have a crossless saving message. He had a crossless bullseye. He was saying, the bullseye is he who believes in me has everlasting life. In fact, it's interesting if you read John's gospel, you find over and over again that Jesus doesn't talk about his death and resurrection. One of the few places he does is in John 3 with Nicodemus and he says, as a serpent was lifted up in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him has everlasting life. And then we get John 3:16. Well, him talking about himself being lifted up is an allusion to his coming death on the cross. But Nicodemus didn't understand it that way. The apostles didn't understand it that way. And we know that because when Jesus later told the apostles that he was going to be killed, Peter says, God forbid it, Lord, this will never happen to you. In Matthew 16, around verse 23, 22, 23. So the point I'm trying to make here is in order to be born again, a person must believe in the Jesus of scripture for everlasting Life.
