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A (0:00)
The following is a listener supported ministry from the Grace Evangelical Society. Is it God's will when people like Charlie Kirk get killed? What is the difference in God's sovereign will and his moral will? Hey, welcome to Grace in Focus. That's what we'll be talking about today and we are glad that you're joining us. This is a ministry of the Grace Evangelical Society. Find us@faithalone.org lots of information there on our website about our Grace Focus magazine, our free online seminary and our bookstore where you can find Bob Wilkins latest book the Gospel is Still under siege. That's faithalone.org, go there today. And now with today's question and answer discussion, here are Bob Wilken and Sam Marr.
B (0:53)
Alright Bob, we have a couple questions. Both of them are related to God's will. And the first question is related to the shooting of Charlie Kirk. But it's really more of an illustration because we can kind of substitute any heinous sinful act here. But this person's question is he's seen a lot of people saying after the shooting that the Lord called Charlie home or it was God's will for him to die a martyr, things like that. Greg is asking is it correct to say that it was God's will that Charlie Kirk was killed? And, and like I said, we could substitute any tragedy, any sin. Is that God's will?
C (1:32)
We've talked about this on the show before but it's the whole question of what is God's will. There's a good book by Gary Friesen called Decision Making and the Will of God that I would recommend. And basically what he suggests is there's no dot out there where God says you're supposed to marry this person and you're supposed to take this job. You're supposed to have this parking space, you're supposed to wear this shirt today. You're supposed to have this pair of glasses, yada yada yada. No, Friesen's point is that God gives us inbounds areas and out of bounds areas. So God says don't take this kind of job, don't be a hitman, don't be a drug dealer, don't be a prostitute or a pimp. But if you want to be a doctor or if you'd like to be a lawyer or if you'd like to be a trash collector or if you'd like to be an architect or if you wanted to say mo yards, all of that is within the moral will of God. And Friesen points out that There's a difference between God's sovereign will and his moral will. So are you familiar with that, Sam, that distinction?
B (2:48)
I am somewhat, but it'd be great if you could explain the distinction.
C (2:51)
Basically, his sovereign will is whatever he allows to happen. He doesn't cause everything to happen. He didn't cause Hitler to kill 6 million Jews and another 5 million other people. He didn't cause Stalin to kill upwards of 100 million people. Or similarly, in China, Mount Zaytun killed a couple hundred million people. We're not sure how many he killed. That wasn't God's moral will. But that was God's sovereign will. Whatever God allowed to happen is part of God's sovereign will. So was it God's sovereign will that Charlie Kirk die or that JFK died? Yes, that was God's sovereign will, but it was not his moral will. God wishes that none should perish, but all should come to repentance. Second Peter 3, 9. And perish there refers to physically dying prematurely. So it wasn't God's will that Charlie Kirk be killed from a moral standpoint, but since it happened, God allowed it. Why did Trump get shot in the ear and Charlie Kirk got killed? I don't know. But God is sovereign, and God could have allowed Donald Trump to be killed and he could have allowed Charlie Kirk to get hit in the ear. So why all those things happen, we don't know. And if we say we know, we're going beyond Scripture.
