Podcast Summary:
Great Company with Jamie Laing
Episode: DR ROBERT WALDINGER: This Is How You Make 2026 The Happiest Year of Your Life
Release Date: January 7, 2026
Host: Jamie Laing
Guest: Dr. Robert Waldinger, Director of the Harvard Study of Adult Development
Episode Overview
In this insightful episode, Jamie Laing sits down with Dr. Robert Waldinger: psychiatrist, Zen priest, and director of the world’s longest longitudinal study on happiness. They unpack the science behind a fulfilled, happy life, drawing from the Harvard Study of Adult Development, reflections on modern society, and personal anecdotes. The overarching question: If we were to prioritize happiness starting today, what should we actually focus on? Dr. Waldinger shares surprising study findings, actionable advice for cultivating relationships and well-being, and debunks persistent misconceptions about what truly brings joy and meaning.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Harvard Study of Adult Development – Origins and Findings
- Study Background
- Started in 1938 with 724 teenagers; now spans 87 years and 2,500+ people, including spouses and children.
- Unique for focusing on what makes people thrive, not just what goes wrong.
- “Most research on human beings is about what goes wrong so we can figure out how to fix it... This study in 1938 was radical because they said we want to know what helps people thrive.”
— Dr. Waldinger [26:47]
- Main Results
- Two main predictors of well-being: taking care of health, and warm, supportive relationships.
- Social connection is the single biggest driver of happiness and health, more so than wealth or fame.
- “People who were more socially connected stayed healthy longer and they lived longer.”
— Dr. Waldinger [33:19]
- “People who were more socially connected stayed healthy longer and they lived longer.”
- Achievements and money matter much less to reported life satisfaction than relationships.
2. Debunking Myths About Happiness
- The Wealth Fallacy
- Culture equates wealth with happiness, but research disproves this—it matters only up to basic needs.
- "The culture gives us this message, oh, if you get really rich, then you're going to be happy. And it's not true."
— Dr. Waldinger [34:33]
- Purpose & Engagement
- Living a “good life” comes from engagement in meaningful activities and relationships.
- “It's the activities you care about and the people you care about. And if you've got those, you've got a lot of what you need for happiness.”
— Dr. Waldinger [06:08]
3. Relationships: The Core of Well-being
- Healthy vs. Unhealthy Relationships
- Staying in “terrible” relationships is more harmful to health than leaving.
- "There's research that showed that staying in a really terrible relationship is probably worse for you than going your separate ways."
— Dr. Waldinger [08:46] - Reciprocity and curiosity are key; when either is lost, relationships become unsustainable.
- “When we lose curiosity, that's something that's possible to cultivate again.”
— Dr. Waldinger [14:46]
- Stress, Loneliness, and Health
- Chronic stress damages both mind and body, increases inflammation, and hastens cognitive decline.
- Loneliness is as dangerous as many health risk factors.
- “It's a stressor the way that... we talked about how stress breaks down the body.”
— Dr. Waldinger [19:13] - Even non-romantic toxic relationships (friends, family) can degrade health over time.
4. Practical Advice for Building Connection
- Curating & Making New Relationships
- Curate relationships to avoid repeated harmful interactions; don’t be afraid to set boundaries.
- Both old and new relationships matter; losing old friends makes it vital to foster new connections throughout life.
- Joining groups, clubs, or volunteering, especially in repeated, shared activities, is empirically the best way to form new bonds.
- “It's doing something you care about or you enjoy alongside the same other people again and again.”
— Dr. Waldinger [17:38]
- For Socially Anxious or Isolated Individuals
- Start with small, low-key interactions—shared activities that aren’t loud or overwhelming.
- Try incrementally deepening casual relationships, for example, with a coworker.
- “Begin to strike up a relationship… very slow steps, small steps.”
— Dr. Waldinger [21:01]
5. Purpose and Self-Knowledge
- Finding Purpose
- Pay attention to activities and interactions that energize or drain you, despite external pressures.
- “We’re taught to squash those signals… I've had to do as a grownup is to just tune in again to pay more attention.”
— Dr. Waldinger [06:52]
6. Modern Challenges: The Digital Age
- Disconnection & Social Media
- The digital world can foster social comparison and a sense of missing out, undermining wellbeing.
- “The problem with the scrolling, is that it leaves you feeling like you're missing out... you get the impression, oh, everybody else is having a great life except me.”
— Dr. Waldinger [53:41] - We lack clear answers for managing digital distraction, but awareness and boundaries are essential.
7. Age, Temperament, and the Evolution of Happiness
- Happiness & Age
- No fixed “unhappiest age,” but midlife is often the most stressful due to multiple demands.
- Research surprisingly shows that people report greater happiness as they age (provided health remains).
- “We get happier as we get older.”
— Dr. Waldinger [40:05]
- Are We Born Happy/Unhappy?
- Temperament is partly inherited—some are born “Tiggers,” others “Eeyores”—but about 40% of happiness is within our control.
- “About 50% of our happiness is genetics... and about 40% is under our control.”
— Dr. Waldinger [43:13]
8. Hedonia vs. Eudaimonia
- The Two Types of Happiness (Socrates, Zen, and Science)
- Hedonic: Short-term pleasure (“am I having fun right now?”).
- Eudaimonic: Lasting fulfillment and meaning.
- “That’s eudaimonic happiness. And the other one’s hedonic... I prioritize meaning.”
— Dr. Waldinger [49:55]
- Flow States and Contentment
- “Flow” activities—whether in hobbies, sports, or work—can create deep well-being without constant chasing.
- Not everyone needs to meditate, but everyone needs some path to quiet, absorption, or joy.
9. Values, Optimism, and Activism
- On Hope for the Future
- Dr. Waldinger feels hopeful within his personal world and the people he influences, but worried about attacks on kindness, science, and truth in the broader society.
- “Until I get up out of my chair and I go do something about it... The goal is to not cooperate with things that we see that are wrong.”
— Dr. Waldinger [59:52]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “Attention is the most basic form of love.”
— Dr. Robert Waldinger [61:12] - “The people who stayed the healthiest and lived the longest were the people who had more social relationships and warmer relationships.”
— Dr. Robert Waldinger [33:19] - “One of my Zen teachers gave me an assignment... ‘What am I seeing here that I've never noticed before?’”
— Dr. Robert Waldinger [13:10] - “Staying in a really terrible relationship is probably worse for you than going your separate ways.”
— Dr. Robert Waldinger [08:46] - “We get happier as we get older.”
— Dr. Robert Waldinger [40:05] - “There are so many ways to have a good life.”
— Dr. Robert Waldinger [66:39] - “Making money… once you get beyond [basic needs], making a lot of money doesn't make you happy.”
— Dr. Robert Waldinger [34:33] - “When we realize that other people are struggling too, it's a relief.”
— Dr. Robert Waldinger [64:16]
Essential Timestamps
- [00:09]–[01:30]: Introduction to Dr. Waldinger and foundational happiness findings
- [04:21]–[05:27]: Early viral success of Dr. Waldinger’s TED talk and why it resonated
- [06:03]–[08:07]: Defining the “good life”; on purpose and fitting in
- [08:11]–[09:41]: Monogamy, relationships, and health outcomes
- [09:56]–[12:53]: Stress, health, inflammation, and the impact of relationships
- [13:05]–[14:46]: Unhealthy relationship traits; the importance of reciprocity and curiosity
- [16:42]–[18:20]: Making new relationships and advice for all ages
- [19:13]–[20:15]: The physical danger of loneliness and evolutionary roots
- [20:25]–[21:01]: Small steps to overcome loneliness and social anxiety
- [26:47]–[29:50]: History and methodology of the Harvard Study of Adult Development
- [33:19]–[36:56]: Surprising results: the health impact of social connections
- [40:05]–[41:03]: Happiness increasing with age
- [43:13]: How much of our happiness is under our control?
- [49:55]–[53:03]: Hedonia vs. eudaimonia, meaning, and flow activities
- [53:41]–[55:14]: Social media’s impact and digital distraction
- [58:34]–[60:05]: Optimism for the future and the need for activism
- [60:41]–[67:10]: Rapid-fire questions about fulfillment, fear, and the diversity of good lives
Actionable Takeaways
- Prioritize relationships over achievements or wealth for long-term happiness.
- Cultivate curiosity and reciprocity in all your relationships, romantic or otherwise.
- Protect your health—basic habits matter for both lifespan and happiness.
- Invest in new connections at every life stage; shared activities are the best pathway.
- Set boundaries with toxic relationships, even if they’re family.
- Recognize and accept your temperament—work within your bandwidth, but remember there's room to grow.
- Find flow states—whether, through hobbies, art, music, or meditation—to counteract the urge to chase constant stimulation.
- Be mindful of digital consumption and strive to live beyond curated, comparative lives.
Final Message
“Attention is the most basic form of love.”
— Dr. Robert Waldinger [61:12]
The secret to a happier 2026—and beyond—may be simple, but it’s far from easy: cherish your relationships, take care of your physical and emotional health, remain curious and present, and contribute to the well-being of others.
