Introducing Hayu Presents...

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Great Company with Jamie Laing

Episode: Introducing Hayu Presents...
Release Date: July 18, 2026
Host: Jamie Laing (Great Company), Dean McCarthy (Hayu Presents)
Featured Guest: Elizabeth Day

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Overview

This episode of Great Company with Jamie Laing introduces listeners to a new podcast collaboration, Hayu Presents, hosted by reality TV expert Dean McCarthy. The episode features a lively and insightful conversation between Dean McCarthy and acclaimed journalist, author, and superfan Elizabeth Day. Together, they celebrate ten years of Hayu and twenty years of the iconic Real Housewives franchise, sharing personal stories, favorite moments, and the cultural impact of reality television.

The main theme revolves around the power of reality TV to represent diverse experiences, build connections, and reflect on personal journeys through the lens of iconic shows and personalities.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Appeal and Impact of Reality Television

• Personal Connection through Reality TV
  Elizabeth Day shares her introduction to Real Housewives during a challenging period in her life (IVF and marital struggles in 2014), highlighting the catharsis and representation reality TV provided.

  “It opened the door to this fabulous camp, brilliant, funny, hysterical universe. But it also, for me, that story reveals that there is this serious undertone to it. Which is representation.” — Elizabeth Day (08:31)

• Representation and Female Friendship
  Elizabeth credits the Real Housewives for showing nuanced, unscripted female relationships and for representing women in life stages rarely shown elsewhere.

  “Where else could I turn to to see widows embark on their dating trajectory or, you know, divorcees going to jail? ... And female friendships as well. It was such a radical thing to show female friendship in that way at that time.” — Elizabeth Day (08:56)

• The ‘Gateway Drug’ Effect
  Both Dean and Elizabeth frame Real Housewives as an entryway into a broader universe, with Elizabeth humorously noting:

  “That was my gateway drug." — Elizabeth Day (09:27)

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2. Notable Housewives, Legacy Cast, and Iconic Moments

• Top Legacy Stars (10:19) Elizabeth and Dean gush over their ‘Mount Rushmore’ of housewives:

  • Countess Luann
  • Kenya Moore
  • Vicky Gunvalson
  • Tamra Judge
  • Lisa Vanderpump
  • Lisa Rinna
  • Kandi Burruss
    They highlight the bravery and humor of Kenya Moore, the meme-generating power of Nene Leakes, and Bethenny Frankel’s savvy transition to TikTok.

  “She [Kenya Moore] embodies so much of what a great housewife should be for me.” — Elizabeth Day (10:50)

  “I’m not a Nene Stan ... but she was the character who launched A Thousand Gifs.” — Elizabeth Day (11:16)

• GIF Culture and Pop Impact
  The discussion notes how meme and GIF culture helped reality TV break into the mainstream, especially during the pandemic.

  “Housewives started becoming really popular with a much broader audience during the pandemic. And there’s a thesis that it is because of GIF culture.” — Elizabeth Day (11:24)

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3. Reality TV Ecosystem: Expanding Beyond Housewives

• Exploring Spin-Offs and Other Shows (13:08) Elizabeth shares her escalation from Housewives to shows like Vanderpump Rules, Below Deck, Summer House, and Shahs of Sunset.

  “All of the Below Decks, including Below Deck Adventure. Adventure actually got my husband into Below Deck.” — Elizabeth Day (13:12)

  She also highlights Shahs of Sunset as a rare example of authenticity and a fascinating window into Iranian-American culture.

• Interconnected Storylines
  The cast’s interrelationships are humorously likened to “one of those whiteboards in a detective series where you’re just drawing all the lines between the various suspects.” — Elizabeth Day (14:31)

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4. Pop Culture Influence & Social Media

• Reality TV as Pop Culture Nexus (15:00) The hosts marvel at reality TV’s ability to generate true pop culture moments—such as the “Scandoval” from Vanderpump Rules—and the thrill of being among the fan-experts in these moments.

• Social Media’s Role Elizabeth explores how Instagrammers and TikTokers have created a parallel commentary universe, deepening engagement with ongoing drama and reunions:

  “So much of the content creation is coming from these incredibly talented Instagrammers and TikTokers ... we get to experience it on the show, then in real time, then with the reunion, it’s so multifaceted.” — Elizabeth Day (16:08)

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5. The Healing and Reflective Qualities of Reality TV

• Conflict, Repair, and Therapy (17:07) Elizabeth refutes the critique that reality TV is “just women fighting,” arguing instead that televised friendship is about rupture and repair, even likening confessionals to group therapy.

  “It’s about the underpinning of friendship. And, really, real friendship is about rupture and repair ... these shows hold you accountable ... confessionals, which is kind of therapy. Right?” — Elizabeth Day (17:07)

  Elizabeth also notes research suggesting watching these shows has mental health benefits, modeling how to handle and mend conflict.

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6. Favorite Taglines and Dream Scenarios

• The pair riff on potential Housewives taglines with playful in-jokes:

  “I don’t want to see how the sausage is made. I want to eat it. I want to eat the sausage. And that would be my tagline.” — Elizabeth Day (09:43)
  “Mine would be, I might be from down under, but I always end up on top.” — Dean McCarthy (09:53)

• Referencing iconic Lisa Vanderpump:

  “Life isn’t always diamonds, but it should be.” — Dean McCarthy (10:07)

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7. Reflections on Recent Reality TV Seasons

• Season and Character Highlights Elizabeth details her evolving opinion on Amanda Francis of Beverly Hills, appreciating her growth and ability to remain calm and ‘centred’ amid reunion drama.

  “She practiced what she preaches. She stayed super calm and in her centre. She had receipts for everything and every single point. She was bang on. And I really want her to come back for a second season...” — Elizabeth Day (19:17)

• Salt Lake City is praised by Dean for its relentless pace and cinematic excellence:

  "Every episode, every scene is a banger ... they'll go for a coffee and it'll be a fight." — Dean McCarthy (16:38)
  “The finale of the penultimate season ... there are these stills from that shoot that are like Caravaggio. The line is stunning, absolutely stunning.” — Elizabeth Day (16:46)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It’s sort of how I measure out my life.” — Elizabeth Day on Housewives (05:33)
• “They're these extraordinary racehorses of entertainment.” — Elizabeth Day (07:10)
• “It’s like one of those whiteboards in a detective series where you’re just drawing all of the lines between the various suspects.” — Elizabeth Day (14:31)
• “Let me tell you, Scandoval, obviously, huge example of that. I remember where I was when I found out about Scandoval. It was like it was a sort of generational moment in time.” — Elizabeth Day (15:40)
• “It’s so multifaceted.” — Elizabeth Day, on social media’s influence (16:08)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:09–04:24 – Jamie Laing introduces Hayu Presents and his love for reality TV
• 04:24–06:47 – Dean McCarthy welcomes Elizabeth Day; reminiscence about meeting Andy Cohen
• 07:14–09:27 – Elizabeth’s personal reality TV ‘origin story’ and the IVF connection
• 10:19–12:23 – Legacy Housewives and the rise of GIF culture
• 13:08–14:54 – Spin-offs and the interconnected world of reality TV relationships
• 15:11–16:08 – Pop culture crossover moments and the influence of social media
• 16:32–18:13 – The psychological, therapeutic aspect of reality TV
• 18:24–19:31 – Reflections on Beverly Hills season, Amanda Francis, and character arcs
• 16:32–16:46 – Salt Lake City’s unique style and appeal

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Conclusion

Great Company’s crossover with Hayu Presents offers an affectionate, humorous, and insightful survey of reality TV’s vast universe. Through Elizabeth Day’s personal testimony and Dean McCarthy’s superfan energy, listeners are invited to celebrate the drama, authenticity, and genuine connection that reality shows inspire. The episode is a compelling preview for both long-time fans and curious newcomers, emphasizing the depth and value of the genre in contemporary culture.

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Transcript

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[Elizabeth Day]

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[Jamie]

Hey guys, it's me, Jamie here. Now, if you know me, you'll know I absolutely love a bit of reality tv. Not as much as my wife, but I love it. Okay? The drama, the iconic moments, the ridiculous one liners. Honestly, it never gets old and I cannot get enough. So if you are anything like me, I've got a podcast I think you're going to be obsessed with. It's called hey youy. Presents. Hosted by the brilliant Dean McCarthy. And it's basically the ultimate deep dive into the biggest personalities, wildest moments and most iconic shows from the hey youy Reality TV universe. You're going to love it. Okay? Across the series, Dean chats with some incredible guests including Luann de Lesseps, Mark Francis Vandelli, Elizabeth Day, the cast of the Real Housewives of London, and even, wait for it, the Paris Hilton. They get into everything from unforgettable reality romances and legendary housewives to fashion disasters, behind the scenes secrets, and all the moments that had us completely hooked. It's funny, it's nostalgic, full of brilliant stories, and honestly, whether you're a total reality TV addict or you just love entertainment, I think you're really gonna enjoy this, okay? Trust me on that. So here is a sneak peek of the show for you all great company listeners. Enjoy.

[Dean McCarthy]

Hello, I'm Dean McCarthy, reality TV expert and all around, hey you super fan. And I'm so, so excited to welcome you to our first episode of hey You Presents. We wanted to start by celebrating 10 years of hey you and 20 years of Housewives. And I could not think of a better expert to take us through the universe. The woman who knows that no matter how many times you need to start over, it's always possible to build a successful legacy. She's a journalist, author, reality TV lover, and superstar podcaster, Elizabeth Day.

[Elizabeth Day]

Oh, my goodness. Thank you so much. What an introduction. I shall endeavor to live up to it.

[Dean McCarthy]

You do.

[Elizabeth Day]

I mean, I take this very seriously, as you know. So if I can do anything to continue the epic legacy of all hey youy content, I will do. I'm a really willing ambassador.

[Dean McCarthy]

So we first met at the hey you Fan Fest in London.

[Elizabeth Day]

Yes.

[Dean McCarthy]

And I remember just seeing this glamazon. I was like, who is this gorgeous woman?

[Elizabeth Day]

And it was Meredith Marks.

[Jamie]

And then I walked.

[Elizabeth Day]

Then I walked in.

[Dean McCarthy]

It was a mirror. I was like, that's me.

[Dani Pellegrino]

And then.

[Dean McCarthy]

Hi, Elizabeth.

[Elizabeth Day]

It was a mirror.

[Dean McCarthy]

And you were interviewing Andy Cohen.

[Elizabeth Day]

Yes. Oh, my gosh. I love that we met then. That's so appropriate. Yeah. I was interviewing Andy Cohen, our lord and savior, and I'd been lucky in that I'd had a warm up because, hey, you did me such a solid and got him to come on how to Fail, which is my. So on the Thursday, I think it was, I interviewed him and I did that classic thing of I saw him walking down the corridor to the Record and I was like, oh, my God, it's you. And I was obviously, it is him because I was expecting him. But I just was so moved because he has provided me with so much entertainment, but also so much witnessing of my own experiences that I kind of. I distill through Housewives. It's sort of how I measure out my life. So I was so grateful that he came on and it was an amazing conversation. Now you'll know this. He's really smart and he doesn't suffer fools gladly.

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[Elizabeth Day]

So I did notice, like, the first five minutes he was kind of sussing me out. And then he realized that I am a superfan. And then we got into it, and by the end, I felt we really connected. And so then I went to he Fanfest and I was interviewing him on stage, which was another amazing life highlight. I mean, he Fanfest. Let's just talk about that for a minute.

[Dean McCarthy]

Oh, my goodness. I'm still not over it.

[Elizabeth Day]

I took my friend Daisy, who's as obsessed as I am, and we met many of the housewives and she came away saying, they are so nice. She's like, they're nicer than some of my friends. They are. They are so charismatic and interesting and interested. They're just. They're these extraordinary racehorses of entertainment.

[Dean McCarthy]

They really are. When did you get into it? Like, we're here now as mega super fans. Both of us. When did this start for you?

[Elizabeth Day]

I can date it almost exactly because I was going through IVF at the time. So it was 2014 and I was in a difficult marriage to someone who is now my ex husband. Very house coded off me.

[Dean McCarthy]

Sounds like a plot. Some watching Potomac. Yeah.

[Elizabeth Day]

And I was going through fertility treatment and that was really difficult. And there was hardly any information about it back then. It's hard to imagine because it doesn't seem that long ago. And yet it was so long ago in this reference because I didn't know very many people who'd gone through ivf. And when I went to my local bookshop, there were no books about ivf. It was all kind of Mother baby books. And I discovered the Real Housewives of Orange County. And back then in the uk, there was no such thing as hey, you, the dark days. BH before. Hey, you don't know how we survived. But we survived because there was a channel then called itvb which was a digital spinoff of itv. And they would ran randomly play old seasons of Real Housewives. And I just so happened to alight upon a season of OC which featured Megan King Edmonds. And she was going through ivf.

[Dean McCarthy]

Yeah.

[Elizabeth Day]

Of course, it was the first accurate portrayal of IVF I had ever seen on screen because she was filming herself doing the injections. And I felt so represented in that moment. It opened the door to this fabulous camp, brilliant, funny, hysterical universe. But it also, for me, that story reveals that there is this serious undertone to it.

[Dean McCarthy]

Yeah.

[Elizabeth Day]

Which is representation. And it wasn't just ivf. It was also women of a certain age who weren't getting the roles in scripted drama. Where else could I turn to to see widows embark on their dating trajectory or, you know, divorcees going to jail? Like, there was just nothing like that on scripted tv. And female friendships as well. It was such a radical thing to show female friendship in that way at that time. So that's the first time I got in. That was my gateway drug.

[Dean McCarthy]

That was your gateway drug. And it's such a aspirational look into people's lives that are so different to what most of us actually live. Which is exciting as well.

[Elizabeth Day]

Absolutely. I love watching portrayals of that kind of elevated fabulosity.

[Dean McCarthy]

Would you ever do Housewives?

[Elizabeth Day]

I don't want to see how the sausage is made. I want to. Yeah, I want to eat it. I want to eat the sausage. And that would be my tagline.

[Dean McCarthy]

Mine would be, I might be from down under, but I always end up on top.

[Elizabeth Day]

You like, good. Thank you. Mine would actually be I'm named after the late queen, but this queen is always on time. Oh, that's good.

[Dean McCarthy]

I think the best thing I thought about it, I think Lisa Vanderpump's Yes, Life isn't Always and diamonds, but it should be.

[Elizabeth Day]

Yes.

[Dean McCarthy]

I feel like that's a good one.

[Elizabeth Day]

It's good because it's the very ethos of what Housewives is.

[Dean McCarthy]

Totally. Let's get into the big legacy stars. Who are your top legacy stars from the hey. Universe?

[Elizabeth Day]

From all time, Definitely. Countess luann Kenya Moore.

[Dean McCarthy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Elizabeth Day]

Yes.

[Dean McCarthy]

Thank you for saying that.

[Elizabeth Day]

Yes. I feel like thank you for acknowledging it as the act of bravery that it is in the current climate. She obviously had a terrible last season and was taken off air. And I understand the reasons why, but she gave us Gone with the Wind.

[Dean McCarthy]

Fabulous. Oh, my goodness.

[Elizabeth Day]

She embodies so much of what a great housewife should be for me. I just could not stop watching her. And she has a sense of humor about it.

[Dean McCarthy]

Yes.

[Elizabeth Day]

Vicky Gunvalson, I think, and Tamra have to have a place there even though they are dialed up too high on the Shriekometer for my pleasure. Vanderpump. Rinna. I also love Kandi Burrus from Atlanta. I'm not a Nene Stan.

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[Elizabeth Day]

No, I know. But she was the character who launched A Thousand Gifts for which we'll be forever grateful.

[Dean McCarthy]

I see her every day on my Instagram.

[Elizabeth Day]

Every day.

[Dean McCarthy]

Every day.

[Elizabeth Day]

If I were to do a PhD on reality TV and Hey youy and the Housewives in particular. Housewives started becoming really popular with a much broader audience during the pandemic. And there's a thesis that it is because of GIF culture.

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Oh, wow.

[Elizabeth Day]

Because people were sending gifs of the Housewives without actually knowing what it was, but it represented something they wanted to convey. And then they started watching the shows,

[Dean McCarthy]

I would believe that for sure. You know, I'm a little bit obsessed with Bethenny Frankel.

[Elizabeth Day]

I adored her on Housewives. I thought she was brilliant. And she had that whippersnapper wit.

[Dean McCarthy]

Yes.

[Elizabeth Day]

And she also went through real stuff, like quite very traumatic divorce and shared it. She has translated that smartness into becoming a TikTok sensation. And she realized early on that the way to get a huge following was to say controversial things and be really out there. And she's done it incredibly well.

[Dean McCarthy]

I feel like Captain Lee and Captain Sandy are also legacies for me. And of course, Jason, because he's so good looking.

[Elizabeth Day]

But Captain Lee, 100% he's someone that you want as your dad, that you can really turn to and rely on. He's like the Yoda of the hey, you verse Totally.

[Dean McCarthy]

Housewives is kind of the gateway drug. Where'd you go after that?

[Elizabeth Day]

After that, I think I went into Vanderpump Rules because they did a beautiful spin off pass from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills into Vanderpump Rules. And to begin with, I thought, I'm not sure about this because it's so different from Housewives. And once you realize that the point of it is, at least back in the day, people in their 20s living in scuzzy apartments, trying desperately to make a living and to break into the entertainment industry, but they're being waitstaff while they're doing it.

[Dean McCarthy]

Yeah.

[Elizabeth Day]

Then you get it and then it's incredible.

[Dean McCarthy]

Totally.

[Elizabeth Day]

And then I definitely went on a boat. Yeah. So all of the below decks, including Below Deck Adventure. Adventure actually got my husband into Below Dec. The two that he's ever watched are Below Deck and Vanderpump Rules. And then I watched Summer House, Winter House. I watched the kind of one off seasons. What? Game of Crowns. That was amazing. I sort of watched them all.

[Dean McCarthy]

I'm loving how the Vanderpump Rules family are now graduated and they're living in the Valley.

[Elizabeth Day]

Yeah, I watch the Valley too.

[Dean McCarthy]

It's really good.

[Elizabeth Day]

It's so good. And shs of Sunset, I love it. And I love that they're doing the Valley Persian style now. Love it. But reality TV doesn't always feature authentic people. Like, they know that the camera is there and that can lead to its own kind of interest as a viewer. But with Shahs of Sunset, I felt they are all, almost all of them living their authentic truth.

[Dean McCarthy]

Yes.

[Elizabeth Day]

And I found it historically fascinating that there is this community of Iranians who ended up in LA after the revolution. And there was one bit in the first or second season, I think, where a group of them traveled back to Iran and it was so incredibly moving.

[Dean McCarthy]

You got to get into Southern Hospitality in Southern Charm.

[Elizabeth Day]

Oh, sorry. I watched those two. I watched those two watch those two. They are so good.

[Dean McCarthy]

So good.

[Elizabeth Day]

The fact that Justin from Southern Hospitality is dating Charlie from Southern Charm, who we got to know because she was dating Craig Conover, who was once dating Peg desorbo from Summer House. I mean, it's just a beautiful. It's like one of those whiteboards in a detective series where you're just drawing all of the lines between the various suspects.

[Dean McCarthy]

I'm obsessed with the Summer House drama that ensued after last season. Isn't it wild how these shows can have such an impact on pop culture? And an event between two reality stars can become a actual pop culture moment. Isn't that insane?

[Elizabeth Day]

It's beautiful.

[Dean McCarthy]

It's beautiful. Thank you.

[Elizabeth Day]

Because why is so beautiful? Because you and I spend so much time joyously in this world. We know so much about it, and the world at large can be quite dismissive of that a lot of the time. And then a story will break through and suddenly we're the experts that people turn to see when it comes to us. Like, let me tell you, Scandoval, obviously, huge example of that. I remember where I was when I found out about Scandival. It was like it was a sort of generational moment in time. I was so shocked. And then the summer house of it.

[Dani Pellegrino]

Wow.

[Elizabeth Day]

I can't get enough of it. I can't get. And I know we're dealing with real people's lives, and I just want to acknowledge that. That there's clearly so much emotion involved. What's so interesting in the age that we're now watching hey you. Is the social media dialogue that accompanies it.

[Jamie]

Yes.

[Elizabeth Day]

So so much of the content creation is coming from these incredibly talented Instagrammers and tiktokers who are putting together the dots and sharing their breadcrumbing investigations with us. So we get to experience it on the show, then in real time. Then with the reunion, it's so multifaceted.

[Dean McCarthy]

I have to say. Salt Lake City, what I love about Salt Lake City, because they're one of my favorite franchises.

[Elizabeth Day]

Yes, of course.

[Dean McCarthy]

Every episode, every scene is a banger.

[Elizabeth Day]

Yes.

[Dean McCarthy]

So never just a chill minute or anything, they'll go for a coffee and it'll be a fight.

[Elizabeth Day]

Yes. And also cinematically, the way that it is filmed and edited. I mean, all of these shows are so brilliantly edited and put together. But Salt Lake City, the finale of the penultimate season, was it season five, where they uncover the Internet personality of Monica cast member, and they're all on the beach and there are these stills from that shoot that are like Caravaggio. The line is stunning, absolutely stunning. And convey so much relatable emotion. I think that's the thing. So, yes, they can have unhinged fights. And, you know, one of my husband's boring complaints will be, oh, but it's just women fighting. I'm like, no, it's not. And it really annoys me when people say that. And I find it sexist. Like, it's actually not it's about the underpinning of friendship. And really real friendship is about rupture and repair. And I think there's been some research done that watching these shows is good for our mental health because it shows us fallouts and then a rebuilding. Because these shows hold you accountable not only within the. Not only within the friendship group, whether we're talking about housewives or summer house or below deck, but on screen because they have to do confessionals, which is kind of therapy. Right. They're being asked to look back over their own behavior. And I find that so fascinating.

[Dean McCarthy]

Imagine being one of them and then seeing a confessional of one of your friends and then they just shred you in the confessional. Wouldn't that be wild? It's basically just like you said. You get an insight into your friend's therapy session.

[Elizabeth Day]

Like the recent season of Beverly Hills. Amanda Francis finding out the Rachel Zone

[Dean McCarthy]

didn't actually like her.

[Elizabeth Day]

Didn't she?

[Dean McCarthy]

Like, she's like, I had no idea.

[Elizabeth Day]

I know.

[Dean McCarthy]

Did you like Amanda?

[Elizabeth Day]

Okay, so my arc with Amanda Francis started off, saw her. She was introduced as the author of Rich as Fuck.

[Dean McCarthy]

Right?

[Elizabeth Day]

They showed the book cover and she explained what it was about. I went away and I downloaded that immediately. I listened to it on audio. Then obviously my relationship with her dipped massively because she seemed so entitled. But I did find her deeply compelling to watch because I loved that intergenerational.

[Dean McCarthy]

Yes.

[Elizabeth Day]

Relationship that we got between her and the other women. And how the other women were actually triggered by her was fascinating. Then I ended up absolutely loving her again by the reunion, because at the reunion.

[Dean McCarthy]

Redemption.

[Elizabeth Day]

Redemption. She practiced what she preaches. She stayed super calm and in her centre. She had receipts for everything and every single point. She was bang on. And I really want her to come back for a second season, but she's saying she's not.

[Dean McCarthy]

She's saying she's not. You're right about that. And she would. She even presented those receipts very beautifully. It wasn't aggressive. She's like, actually, I think you said that on camera, like, really calmly. And they're like, she's like, absolutely not. And then they'd have played the exact clip.

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[Dean McCarthy]

Hello and welcome to hey you. Presents, the podcast where reality TV gets the deep dive that it truly deserves. I'm Dean McCarthy, I am a self confessed reality TV addict and you can join me as I sit down with the biggest names in the hey you universe to uncover the moments that you love, the drama you lived for, and the stories you never got the full picture on. Every week is unfiltered. It's unforgettable and unlike anything you've heard before. Hey you. Presents on all your favorite podcast platforms.