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Jamie Lang (Host)
Hello everyone, I'm Jamie Lang. And this is great moments. Hello, everyone. This is great moments where I share some of my favorite moments from my conversations on Great Company. Something that's made me think, made me laugh or change my perspective. And hopefully, hopefully there's something in it for you too. So are you ready? Let's get into it. When's the worst breakup you ever had?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Well, to be fair, I've had loads.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Really?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Yeah. Because I'm very like, when I'm in, I'm in. Not anymore. Now I'm quite out. Do you.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Do you do the dumping or can you get dumped?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Oh, I can get dumped. It's quite a skill, really. Oh, yeah. I can get really dumped. Yeah.
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Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Oh, yeah.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Do you see it coming?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Yeah.
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Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
I'm never one of those women who's like, it came out of nowhere. One. One did. One came out of nowhere. But, like, I wasn't that into them. It was more of a relief because when I was sick and I had these string of men when they break up me, because it was like three months in the button, they were like, oh, she's. She's mad. Do you know what I mean? Like, you can get away with it for three, three months. Then you're like, you're staying over, you have to eat dinner. Like, it's.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Yeah, you can keep it together.
Sarah (Founder of Olive and June)
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Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Three months in, they're all like. They're right. Like, you could literally set your watch by it.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Really?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Yeah. And. But it was like a release. I was like, oh, grand. I'll just go back to me and sort of now full time. Thanks. You were kind of holding the whole thing up, to be honest. You were in the way of my weight loss journey. Thank you. Yeah, but no, I have. I used to, like. I remember my first breakup.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Oh, how old are you?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
My God, I'll never forget the pain. Like, I remember breaking up with the guy when I was 10 years of age and get out of here. I swear to God, I'm gamey. I've been going a long time, Jamie. I was an early starter. I loved boys. I was boy mad.
Jamie Lang (Host)
But you can't be ten and be broken hearted.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Oh, my God. Do you remember the song I Swear by the moon and the My God pipes are nice. Yeah, I know. Cause I've listened to it 60 billion times. Crying, holding his not numb Chucks dog tags, which I'd engraved our names in myself with the compass. He didn't even know I had his not numb Chucks cold tags.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Dog tags, Numb Chucks
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
just self Flagellating myself, just hitting my own back. Why did he leave? It's your fault. But then I remember my first serious breakup when I was. I don't know, I must be in my 20s, I'd say.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Yeah.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
And I like, obviously, because your first serious relationship, like, I guess this is me now. We're gonna just get married. Which is hilarious in hindsight, you know, Like, I've girls coming to my shows now and they're in their early 20s. And I'm like, are you gonna marry him? She's like, yeah. And I was like, I'm.
Jamie Lang (Host)
I just don't think you are.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
You know what I mean? You need to speak to Angela. You're not. This is. You're too fucking young for this. But I was so devastated. Oh my God. I remember I like got a train out to his house. I. I tried to doorstep him basically, and his mom was like, he's not here. And I ended going in sitting and waiting for. I remember, I remember I rang, so I ran, I went. I was heartbroken. And I was like, I just need to see him. He just needs to see me. And then everything will be fine. Like, I. I was quite a needy girlfriend and got the train out to his house. He was living with his mom at the time. We were only like, young. And his mom was like, he's not here. And she could see that I just wasn't going to go anywhere. And she's like, do you want to come in and wait? Said, yeah. So. And he wasn't answering my calls. I was ringing him off my little pink flip phone and she said, you want to ring him off the landline? My eyes lit up because I was like, well, he's never gonna know that's me. Yeah, I'll ring him. So he answers his. What he thinks is his mother. Joanne. Joanne, Hiya, it's me.
Jamie Lang (Host)
I murdered your mom.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Your mom's strapped to a radio. If you don't come home the next day. 10 minutes. I've got a specific set of skills
Jamie Lang (Host)
that is so nuts. You took a bus to the. I took a train.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
I got the dart. Yeah. He lived in Shank Hill at the time.
Jamie Lang (Host)
You took a train to the mom's host.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
But that was just a bonus that she let me do that. I could never have anticipated I'd get a hotline straight to his mobile, but I remember sitting on the dark on I. So you know when you're broke, you know when you're heartbroken and it's like, like, I've learned a lot Like I, I fall. I used to say, like, I don't fall in love, I fall insane when I'm in love. I'm. I'm so. I have these very, like, it's deep. Deep, deep, deep. Yeah. These very intense relationships where it's like the worst of times and the best of times and you're breaking up all the time. It's always that kind of never anything. Like not regular.
Jamie Lang (Host)
The type of person you go for
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
or what I say, it's a bit of me and a bit of them. It's always, you can't, you can't remove yourself from all accountability. I know myself that it's probably that dopamine thing, you know, that kind of ADHD brain vibe.
Jamie Lang (Host)
It's like you chase that, the highs and the drama. And also when something's still. It feels boring.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Exactly.
Jamie Lang (Host)
And so you want it to be. Feel exciting.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
It's quite a juvenile way of going about things as well. I hope that I don't behave like that anymore. I've had some very boring relationships since. So hopefully that's a good sign that I've evolved. Bored off my tits. This must be what it's like. But I remember sitting on the dark, going out to his house and feeling like at peace because I was going to see him. So it's. They say it's like a drug and you've just gone, your drug's just being ripped off here. It's cold turkey.
Jamie Lang (Host)
So you felt calm that you knew you were going there.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
I was there grinning like an absolute fruit loop on the train. I never remember. I was in a lawn style top and a denim skirt and my, my furry boots. Wow. Yeah.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Do you think there's a.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
He didn't. It didn't. Didn't work out. Would you believe that? Can you believe I didn't marry that man? Isn't that shocking? Do.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Do you. Would you like to get married?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
No.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Really?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
I wouldn't. So if I met someone tomorrow and I was again mad about them, because I do have it in me.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Yeah. Yeah.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
I. I do have it in me to go. To go mad, to get mad about them. And I think I've hardened up in the last couple of years. I don't think I'm the way I was like, I think it's. I'm. I'm more for men. I'm way more. I'm not. I don't fall the way I used to fall as often as I used to fall.
Jamie Lang (Host)
I think you're quite tough.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
I am quite tough. You are Until I. Three rides and I'm like, would you love me if I was a worm? But, like, at the start, I'm very tough. I'm too tough, actually. I've kind of hardened up a bit too much. I think, with the job as well. The job became. I realized pretty quickly the job is a bit of a cock block, really.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Why? Because you have to be married to it.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
No men. No man. No man is gonna walk out of my shell and be like, I'll slip into her DMs.
Jamie Lang (Host)
I disagree.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
You're a different beast.
Jamie Lang (Host)
I disagree.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
I think because we know each other. And also you. You kind of dabbled in a bit of comedy at one point. But like, the average person, I was. I was doing a show in Plymouth recently and there was three straight men in the front row. And the whole show I was like, why the fuck are they there? And then after, I was like, maybe one of them fancied me from, like a TV show or something. And he came and I was like, I. And I was saying it to my tour manager and she was like, oh, why don't you see? I was like, no, no, no, because I am. I know now he will leave cured. There's no. He's not going to be like. He'll be leaving and be like, your grant. I'm not taking that on. Even Vogue. Vogue. Our mutual friend, she was. She was trying to set me up with someone before, and he asked my Instagram and she's like, no, no, you're not having it. And I was like, why? Because you're hostile. You're hostile. But I think the job is kind of toughen me up and I think there's a certain amount of resilience required. And I feel like I'm very independent now and I'm financially independent and, yeah, I'm not willing to.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Like, you don't need. You only need it for. For the accident, which is love.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
That's.
Jamie Lang (Host)
You don't need it. Financial support, anything.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
You don't.
Jamie Lang (Host)
You're fun.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
On my own. My own little beast now. But I would. And also, like, I actually. Do you know what? I. I went. I actually downloaded a date nap last night for the first time in I don't know how long.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Come on. Which one was it?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Hinge. And then five minutes in, I was like. I was like, joanne, this is not the energy to bring to Hinge. You've rolled your eyes 19 times. You've been on it 30 seconds.
Jamie Lang (Host)
I also think with. There's a. There's a weird thing which the question is always asked women always, it's always about kids. And I don't know why they always ask that.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
I know.
Jamie Lang (Host)
And women get to a certain age and it's like, well, wouldn't you want to have them?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Yeah, I'd love to have kids.
Jamie Lang (Host)
You'd like to have kids?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Yeah, I'd love to have kids. I might adopt kids. I might just pay it back. Yeah. But like my problem is I Forget like I'm 42 and like life just sneaks up on you and because it didn't happen for me with a man, because I think I'm, I'm way more self aware now. And I realize now I was never going to be the type of. I just was never going to be the person who got married at 25. That was just never what I was going to do. Yeah. And now I've gotten to 42. I'm. I, I think I, I call myself a little problematically independent at this point. So the kids thing, I assume it'll be something I'll probably do on my own or my friend Ross, he's gay. We were kind of, maybe something. We'd kind of genetically collab.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Really?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Maybe. Yeah. But like then I'm like, I'm, I'm fully booked. I'm, I'm touring until next Christmas.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Yeah. And there's a tricky thing which, especially with being a comedian, it's like, where
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
do you put the baby?
Jamie Lang (Host)
Out of any job. I think that's the hardest because the way you make your living is touring. You have to go around the country and meet different people. So then where do you put the baby?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
But then you have to prioritize. That's the thing. It's like, well, if you're gonna do it, you need to prioritize. Putting time aside to raise the baby. Joanne, you can't just have the baby and pick it up when it's 18.
Jamie Lang (Host)
But you're not in a relationship.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
No. Oh no.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Hence the download of the dating apps.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Yeah.
Jamie Lang (Host)
What is your type for anyone listening?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Oh, great question.
Jamie Lang (Host)
You need funny.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Yeah. I mean the last criminal. Criminal isn't criminal. Necessary. But seems to be a little bit of time somewhere along the lines. Seems to be a thing for me. White collar. It's always white collar. Which barely counts. You know, maybe an old addiction issue, but they've recovered. But they're probably, you know, maybe one sausage away from a relapse kind of vibe. Any. I stay away from spiritual vegans now because I always like a little bit of trauma. They're trying to hold a lot of behind them. Do you know what I mean?
Jamie Lang (Host)
But you like a little bit of trauma?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
I seem to, yes.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Yeah. Okay.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Yeah, yeah. There seems to be. That seems to be my jam. Yeah. Where are your wounds? Yeah. Let's rub wounds together. Yeah. I actually think for the moment I'm. Actually, I. I would. My concern for myself would be that I'd close down shop completely because I am quite content. And you have to be open.
Jamie Lang (Host)
What, so no sex forever?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Well, no, I'd have sex, yeah. I'm willing.
Jamie Lang (Host)
You're willing to have sex?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Yeah. To let a man have sex with me? Yes. Yeah, I am willing. Yeah. I leave my doors open every Saturday afternoon between 2 and 3. Any delivery drivers. I'm like, come on in. Not gonna give you the code. I'll give you the code after. Come on.
Jamie Lang (Host)
I interviewed Lou Saunders. Lies on is the funniest thing she ever told me. She said she once had a one night stand with a guy and he didn't take his anorak off the whole time. He just wore his jacket.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Oh my God, that is so lazy. Like, talk about. Just get a wank sleeve. Why am I even here? I know one of my mates, Rod, he kept his hat on the whole
Jamie Lang (Host)
time, but I was like, what, like a truby?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
No, like, that'd be hot. That's very Justin Timberlake, isn't it? And just one white glove. He kept his hat on. I was like, yeah. Cause he's bald. She was like, oh. I was like, oh, come on, it's classic 101.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Have you ever had a strange one night stand?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
I mean, they're all strange. I remember one guy, I went on a date with them and I was again, I was in the aftermath of a breakup. Yeah.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Yeah.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
And I fancied this guy. And it was probably the first guy I fancied after the last guy. And you know when you've kind of broken through that wall, you're like, oh, amazing. And I just moved to London and I was like, gonna, you know, I'm gonna be like Carrie Bradshaw. Well, you know, living my London life. And I'm just gonna date. And because I. I was never particularly promiscuous. I was very much like, I'm not giving you this. My flower. Yeah. Just gonna ruin us. Tell your Macey you took us. I was always like that.
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Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
But I was like, I'm gonna, I'm just gonna like, you know, I'm gonna be. Gonna have that like, really promiscuous stage ever. But I'M not. I don't think I'm really equipped for that. But I. Anyway, I went to the date with this guy and I really fancied him and I was like, thank God. So I was like, I'll go home with you. He was like, oh, okay. So I was sitting in the black cab with him because I just assumed all men wanted you to come with him. I never thought that he didn't. Never crossed my mind. And I was sitting in the taxi and. But then I realized his attitude toward I was like, oh, you're, you're like a little, you're a little sexist actually. Because he was like, well, look, I'm assuming you don't do this a lot. And I was like, oh, what? Yeah, he was judging me for going home with him.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Are you? What?
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Yeah. Oh, Jamie Clonay, let's not be surprised.
Jamie Lang (Host)
I am surprised by that.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
And I think I, in my heightened state of like my new London life and I fancy someone was like, truly, this man would be absolutely thrilled. And of course he was like, I'm obviously going to have sex with you, but I'm just hoping this isn't like how you normally behave.
Jamie Lang (Host)
So you then have a weird like, argument in like the taxi.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
I just remember very clearly that stuck in my mind. And I was like, oh, he's judging me. Followed through anyway, obviously because I was like, I'm new to London, I don't know where I live. Having a clue what she'll blowing him on. I'm stuck in this taxi now. And I went back and the next morning, yeah, he was ice cold. What I mean, had his back to me. And I remember saying to him, he was on his phone and I went, are you back on Hinge? I said, he on Hinge? Anyway, no man's room. And I was like, I was taking the piss. And then I obviously hadn't a clue where I was. So I said, listen, I don't know where I am. And he told me I was in like wherever, you know, there's like Wolford Shire or something. And he said, I said, can I? I said, is there, is there a train station nearby? And he goes, yeah, it's down the road. And I said, do you drive? And he said, yeah. And he goes, and he looked at me like as in I was going to do something really cheeky. And he goes, I'm not Juwan, I'm not giving you a lift. And I said, oh, okay. And he said, I said, why? Just out of interest. He goes, because that would be I'll never forget it. An unprecedented act of chivalry. And I just don't think I feel that way about you yet. Welcome to London, Joanne. And I started laughing. He's like, what's so funny? Because I was like, ah, you're like, you're. You're too much. Yeah, this is ridiculous. So I was like, I'm going there. And he's like, oh, why are you being like that? And I was like, I, I.
Jamie Lang (Host)
You're you.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
Yeah, exactly. I was like, I know you're granted. Yes, that's the end of the. I thought I was like giving this gift to this man, me for 12 hours. Oh, you lucky bastard. Yeah, but a man are like, I call the ejaculate.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Explain.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
They ejaculate. They hate. Really. Ah, come on now, Jamie. I can see it in your eyes. You know exactly what I mean. They get what they want. Not all of them now. Not all. Not all men. Hashtag blah, blah. But like, there's a pursuit there and there is that post, not clarity of like, oh, you're still here. Rob Anthony, on your way out, you're like, wow, you were all over me last night.
Jamie Lang (Host)
Yeah, that post, not clarity.
Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
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Joanne (Comedian/Guest)
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Date: May 31, 2026
Host: Jamie Laing
Guest: Joanne McNally (Comedian)
In this lively and honest episode of "Great Company," Jamie Laing revisits memorable moments from his chat with comedian Joanne McNally, focusing on her hilarious and insightful tales of dating disasters. The conversation explores heartbreaks, the emotional rollercoaster of love, modern relationships, and the challenges and humor in maintaining independence, all with Joanne’s characteristic wit and candor. From early romantic trauma to navigating dating apps in her 40s, Joanne opens up about love, loss, and self-growth.
Joanne’s Track Record:
Early Heartbreak:
“Crying, holding his not numb Chucks dog tags, which I'd engraved our names in myself with the compass.” (04:40)
Intense Relationship Patterns:
“I don't fall in love, I fall insane when I'm in love… very intense relationships where it's like the worst of times and the best of times and you're breaking up all the time.” (07:02)
Personal Evolution:
“I think I've hardened up in the last couple of years... I'm not. I don't fall the way I used to fall as often as I used to fall.” (08:47)
“I am quite tough… Until I. Three rides and I'm like, would you love me if I was a worm? But, like, at the start, I'm very tough. I'm too tough, actually.” (09:08)
The 'Cock Block' of Comedy:
“The job became... the job is a bit of a cock block, really. No man is gonna walk out of my shell and be like, I'll slip into her DMs.” (09:17)
Marriage Ambivalence:
“No.” (08:39)
“If I met someone tomorrow and I was again mad about them... I do have it in me to go mad ... but I'm way more self aware now.” (08:47)
Children and Family:
“Yeah, I'd love to have kids. I might adopt kids. I might just pay it back. Yeah.” (11:25)
“I'm fully booked. I'm, I'm touring until next Christmas.” (12:06)
Modern Dating Challenges:
“I actually downloaded a date nap last night for the first time in I don't know how long... Five minutes in, I was like, Joanne, this is not the energy to bring to Hinge. You've rolled your eyes 19 times. You've been on it 30 seconds.” (10:54)
Her “Type”:
Her Candor:
“My concern for myself would be that I'd close down shop completely because I am quite content. And you have to be open.” (13:23)
“I'm willing to have sex? Yeah, to let a man have sex with me? Yes. Yeah, I am willing.” (13:48)
Funny and Awkward Encounters:
“He goes, ‘I'm not giving you a lift...because that would be...an unprecedented act of chivalry. And I just don't think I feel that way about you yet.’” (17:17)
“Men...there is that post, not clarity of like, oh, you're still here. Rob Anthony, on your way out, you're like, wow, you were all over me last night.” (18:15)
Memorable Moment:
“She once had a one night stand with a guy and he didn't take his anorak off the whole time.” (14:06)
“I know one of my mates, Rod, he kept his hat on the whole [time]...‘Cause he's bald. She was like, oh. I was like, oh, come on, it's classic 101.” (14:31)
On Early Heartbreak:
On Relationship Intensity:
On Modern Independence:
On Dating App Cynicism:
On Her “Type”:
On Men Post-Hookup:
The episode blends hilarious anecdotes, sharp self-deprecation, and raw honesty. Joanne’s comedic timing and Jamie’s warm facilitation create a safe space for revealing both the humor and heartache of modern romance. The conversation is candid, punchy, and relatable—full of asides that skewer dating clichés and the realities of being a self-sufficient woman in showbiz.
If you've ever suffered dating disasters, questioned your relationship patterns, or felt both too independent and too soft, this episode is a wise and witty reminder you're not alone. Joanne's tales will leave you laughing, cringing, and maybe a little more self-aware.