← Great Company with Jamie Laing
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AT&T business Wireless connecting changes everything.
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Hello, everyone. I'm Jamie Lang and this is Great Moments, guys. Welcome back. Welcome back to Great Moments. So nice to see you here or hear you here now. Okay. To celebrate this year's Brit Awards, which was amazing. It was incredible. I was there. It was just the best. Today's great moment is with the ultimate pop star, Zahra Larson. I don't know if you've seen Zara, but she's going viral on TikTok with her dance. And Zara was one of my first ever guests on Great Company and I just love her. Now in this great moment, Zara opens up about making music she truly believes in. And she also talks about how Beyonce makes her cry whenever she talks about Beyonce. So get ready for that. Now if you really enjoy this great moment, you can go and Click on the full episode as well. So make sure you do that if you like this clip. But here it is. Our great moments with Zara Larson. When you're recording a song, when you're writing it, when you're finding the lyrics and you're getting whatever the. Whatever you're getting within your song, when you hear one and you're like, this feels good. When you're in that scene, you're like. You're seeing like, yeah, this is it. This is it. This is gonna be. You've had that a few times, right? Yes.
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So many times. I'm like, this. Like, you're not even ready for me. No one's ready for me. Like, you don't even know. And then I'm like, I felt that way with Love Me Land, like my first single off Poster Girl. I really felt guys like, nah.
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You hearing what I'm hearing? Are you hearing what I'm hearing? I don't think you're ready for this shit.
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This is. This is gonna. This is gonna blow every chart. Like, I'm. Everyone is gonna like, what is it?
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How do you know that, though? How do you know?
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I just felt like it was such a good song and then it didn't do what I wanted it to. But, you know, what is that marketing? I truly. I don't even know. I don't even know. Maybe it's the stars aligning in the universe. I think there's so many things that just has to be right for that moment in time. But the thing is, I'm so proud of that song. And I love the video. I love everything about it. And even just releasing it just felt like a proud moment because you. I don't feel like when I release stuff that I feel really happy about that it's. You can't lose. You really can't lose. And I'm just not saying that. Like, I feel like I feel sad for the people missing out on that song. That's really what I feel.
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That is a great way. So you don't. It doesn't create. Maybe it does. It doesn't create self doubt. It doesn't make you scared. It just makes you go.
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It makes me like, hello. Wake up, wake up. That's how I feel.
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So good.
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Yeah. And then you guys didn't hear it.
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What the fuck? It was freaking, you idiot.
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Amazing. And then I think if you would have released it, it's a great way
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to twist it, but not even twist it, because that's a wrong word. It's the great way to View it.
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But if you release something that you're not super proud of and you've done that way of.
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I've.
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I've.
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I've.
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I've released songs that I feel like this is good, but I'm also ex. Mostly excited about. Like, this might feel like a hit and then. But I've never really released something that I didn't like. But let's say you do that. I know a lot of artists that have done that and they release something and, you know, if it's a hit, they love it. You know, wow. It's. It was a number one. I love it. It got 2 billion streams. If it's not a hit and then you stand there with the song that you don't even like. That's like a flop to me, emotionally. That's an emotional flop, which is the worst type of flop.
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What does that feel like? The words gonna flop.
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Yeah.
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What does that feel like?
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I think it would just be like, again, like, why am I doing this? Who am I doing this for?
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And then that's when your drive and ambition started. Because you're like, whoa. Because that's what keeps you going in life. Right. Just for everyone. It's the ambitious to drive.
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And it's hard when you are an artist that is competitive, which I think every artist is, or has a drive to want to be at least the best version of yourself. But also with, like, you. You. You want to be. You want to be in the game. You know, when you have that, it's hard to also compare because music is so. It's like Jay Z said at the Grammys. Like, this is just a bunch of people voting for what they think is the best song. It's not necessarily the best album or the best song, because there is no such thing. There's only the best song for you. Like me and my dad, we have very different types of taste genres. Yeah. And taste that we listen to.
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Yeah.
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And that doesn't mean that he hates the Grateful Dead or. Yeah. Imagine. But he probably wouldn't have my. You know, the majority of my songs on his playlist that he would listen to when he relaxes or cooks or whatever. And I probably wouldn't listen to Motorhead. And that's not saying they're bad. It's just not my type of vibe. You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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So that's also something that's hard. But when someone is amazing, like Beyonce, when someone is just. Sorry. But objectively the best, of course.
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Texas holden.
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Yeah. And 16 carriages. That makes me Cry.
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No, it doesn't.
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Yeah, it does.
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It makes you cry.
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Yeah.
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Can someone play it? Wait, why does it make you cry?
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I don't know. It's a bit unclear what the song's about, but you could. You could see it from different perspectives, and. And one of them is, like, 16 carriages. Is that her years that she's been in the industry? Like, her. Her life? Like, she sees her life. The 16. Is that her tour buses going away on the road, driving away with her dreams of. Because even though Beyonce's like, you know, she's the superstar of the world, she's like the celebrity of celebrities. And everybody, just not everybody, but everybody who. Who has good taste loves her, I would say she probably also have a lot of dreams that she couldn't fulfill because she had to sacrifice a big part of her life to her career and where she's at right now. And was it worth it? Did she get to experience all the things she wanted? Like, she obviously lives a very, very different life than you and me. She can't walk out. She can't. She can't have this, like, connection with strangers because everybody just sees her as a phenomenon almost. I could only imagine. And that's also something you gotta think about, like, ooh, you know, I want to be this, like, superstar, and I want to be, like, a celebrity. Like, I want everybody to love me, but then I also want people to love me for me. Because I don't know Beyonce, and not a lot of people actually know her, at least the people who follow her. And that's sad. I don't know. That made me cry.
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But why? But because you care for her so much or it relates to you? Is that what it is? It's because you care for her so much. That's unbelievable. You're like an empath. Sorry. That is. You're actually getting tearful. I'm gonna clip up this bit and just add it to another bit. It doesn't feel like it's about Beyonce. Do you want a tissue?
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No, it's fine.
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I'm not gonna cry.
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I'm not gonna cry.
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Okay.
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But it is. It's. It's just like, oh, I don't even know if that song's about that, but to me, it felt like I could empathize with that. And she probably has. Have had the most amazing life and obviously experienced stuff that a regular person wouldn't. And so have I. Like, I've been traveling. I've been able to tour the world with my music and.
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But what have you Sacrificed, maybe, like
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time, time with the people I love. And what's more, more important than that, really, when you go out and yes, you do get love from people you don't know. But, like, when you are on your deathbed and you lay there and you think back about life, isn't it the relationships, the real relationships that we have with people that really meant everything. But I think also you want to leave, like, a legacy or you want to inspire people and. And be a part. That's why music is so beautiful. Like, sometimes I have people walking up to me and they're like, oh, my gosh, like, your song was. I was. I had your song as I got married or on my graduation or this really important moment in someone's life, and I got to be a part of that. Or they would have looked at my videos in a time where they felt sad or wasn't in a good place and they felt inspired, or even someone might be listening to your podcast and felt it maybe just ticked a little thought that led them to some. You know, I think it's. It's nice that you are able to inspire people, but personally, at the end of the very, very end, I don't know, like, what is this all about?
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There's a. Like a. Is it a fable? I don't know, but there's a story which I heard recently, which is. And I'm gonna completely murder it, but I'm gonna give it a go where it's a. It's a. It's a fisherman and an American businessman. And the American businessman says to the fisherman, what do you do? And he says, well, I go and fish in the morning, and then I do a little bit, and I come back to my family and I have play with them, and I have a great time with them. We eat the fish. And the American businessman says, well, why don't you spend all your day fishing, collect the fish, take it back to your family, but then go and sell the fish. And the fisherman says, well, why don't I do that? He goes, well, then you can make more money. Why would I do that? He goes, well, then you can sell the fish, and you can then maybe go and sell the fish, collect money, go and buy a factory, tin it up, and then you got the production and then you can sell more. And the fisherman says, well, why'd I do that? And he goes, well, then. Then you can settle that and you can have loads of money. And the fisherman says, well, why would you? And he goes, well, then you can spend more time with your family.
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Right.
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The fisherman says, well, I was doing that in the first place.
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That made me. It makes me want to grab capitalism.
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But you know what I mean? Right. And so, yeah, it's me a bit emotional because the hell are you doing to me? Because at the end of the day, yeah, that's really what is important.
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Yeah, it really is.
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Love, relationships, loyalty, trust, all those kind of things, all the other stuff that we're doing right here, you know, but maybe that gives us purpose.
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Right.
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And purpose is really important. And, and in terms of purpose, you know, you're so fulfilled with what you're doing, so maybe that is the part of life as well that you can look back.
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Yeah. And I don't think anyone actually, no matter what you do have it completely figured out because I think you, like you say, you do need something to strive for and a purpose and to work towards something, but at the same time just be aware of it and be aware of being, being present and like appreciate all that you have. And that's just such a. Because sometimes I think, oh, what, what will be different? Like in this actual very very moment, let's say I would have right now like 20 Grammys, right. And I would have a big, big entourage wherever I go. And I would have, I was, I would be on the way to a stadium tour. Would, would the rehearsal that I'm doing or sitting here right now talking, would that be that much different? It wouldn't. It really wouldn't. I still want it, I still want it. But yeah, yeah, yeah. You just have to think, like, would it be that, would it feel that different? Maybe from the. It would look different from the outside, but would it feel different for me?
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I don't think so, no, it really wouldn't.
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So I'm just happy in any setting, basically.
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Could AI help you do more of what you love? Workday is the next gen erp powered by AI that actually knows your business. We help you handle the have to dos so you can focus on the can't wait to do's. It's a new workday,
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that new thing. Yeah, we've got it. The drop by GNC bringing you all the newness that matters, handpicked by the pros who actually know what's up and what's proven to work. We keep you on top of the trends and dialed into what's next. Whether you're crushing it at the gym, leveling up your game, or thriving every day, the drop by GNC is where the latest solutions in health and wellness land first nonstop innovation and fresh finds daily explore what's new and what's next on the drop by gnc.
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