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Podcast: Great New Courses - Online eLearning With The Best Coaches

Host: Eric Mega Download
Guest: Nathan Cool
Episode: Videography For Real Estate – Free Download Course
Date: June 12, 2026

Overview

In this episode, Eric Mega Download sits down with Nathan Cool to dive deep into the intricacies of real estate as an investment class, particularly focusing on the financial structures that impact profitability and the challenges of finding true bargains in the modern market. The discussion centers less on operational real estate and more on the higher-level perspective from experienced investors, exploring the limits and occasional opportunities in the industry, and the lessons learned from missed chances in the past.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. How Real Estate Is Priced and Market Opportunities

Real estate is not a commodity: Unlike stocks, its pricing can sometimes be subject to inefficiencies, but generally, developed real estate is "more accurately priced most of the time" (A, 00:26).
Opportunities arise in chaos: Significant bargains or mispricings usually only appear during periods of major dislocation—such as the RTC (Resolution Trust Corporation) crisis, where distressed owners didn't know the value of their own holdings (A, 00:37).
Competitive market: Most of the time, market participants (especially REITs) are well informed, making it hard to find overlooked opportunities in developed markets (A, 01:12).

2. Structural Disadvantages for Corporations in Real Estate

Tax structure matters: B explains why large corporations ("C Corps") are disadvantaged in real estate investing due to double taxation under the Internal Revenue Code (B, 01:42).
Advantage to other structures: S Corps, partnerships, individuals, and REITs all enjoy more favorable tax treatments, giving them an edge over C Corps in terms of possible returns (A, 02:48).
Limited competitive advantage: Both speakers stress that without expertise and with corporate tax drag, it's extremely difficult for entities like theirs to outperform more specialized or appropriately structured investors (B, 02:00).

3. Missed Opportunities in the Past

Reflecting on the RTC era: A admits to missing potentially lucrative opportunities during this period when the market was inefficient and financing was hard to obtain. While they did engage in a few transactions, nothing made a meaningful dent in their overall capital (A, 03:37).
Considered major deals: B mentions seriously evaluating the purchase of the Irvine Corporation, one of the few large real estate deals they contemplated at length (B, 04:28).

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

On market efficiency:
“It's hard to find real estate that's really mispriced.” (A, 01:14)
On corporate tax disadvantages:
“Real estate tends to be a very lousy investment for people who are taxed under subchapter C of the code relating to corporations.” (B, 01:54)
On real estate finance cycles:
“If [big opportunities] exist, it will certainly be because... there's a lot of chaos in real estate financing for one reason or another.” (A, 01:36)
On missed opportunities:
“We missed the boat to some extent during the RTC days… we could have made a lot of money if we had been geared up for it at that time.” (A, 03:46)

Important Segments and Timestamps

[00:00–01:42]: Why real estate is hard to buy cheaply; period of mispricing during RTC era; market knowledge and competition among REITs.
[01:42–02:48]: Discussing corporate structure disadvantages; why C Corps hardly ever win at real estate investing; tax code implications.
[02:48–04:28]: Real estate holding and selling for corporations; lack of significant success; reflections on why large-scale opportunities are rare.
[04:28–04:38]: The only major potential acquisition considered—the Irvine Corporation.
[04:38–end]: Final thoughts on rare, large real estate deal opportunities.

Tone and Language

The conversation is frank and direct, filled with practical wisdom and candid admissions about investing missteps, colored by decades of investing experience. Both speakers convey a tone of realism and humility, emphasizing the challenges of outcompeting seasoned specialists and the importance of structure and timing in real estate investing.

Summary Takeaways

Opportunities to truly capitalize on mispriced real estate are rare and typically arise only in periods of market chaos.
Large C Corporations are at a disadvantage in real estate due to unfavorable tax treatment compared to other ownership structures.
Success in real estate investing favors those with specialized knowledge and appropriate legal/tax frameworks.
Even the most experienced investors can miss periods of opportunity due to lack of focus, readiness, or market inefficiency.

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[00:00]
A
We both had a fair amount of experience in real estate, and Charlie made his early money in real estate. The second point is the more important points. Real estate is not a commodity, but I think it tends to be more accurately priced, particularly developed real estate, more accurately priced most of the time. Now, during the RTC period, when you had huge amounts of transactions and you had a. You had an owner that didn't want to be an owner in a very big way and they didn't know what the hell they owned and all of that sort of thing. I mean, you had a lot of mispricing then, and I know a few people in this room that made a lot of money off of that. But under most conditions, it's. It's hard to find real estate that's really mispriced. I mean, when I look at. When I look at the transactions that REITs engage in currently, and you get a lot of information on that sort of thing, they're very similar, but it's a competitive world and, you know, they all know about what a Class A office building and, you know, in Chicago or wherever it may be is going to produce. At least they have. They may all be wrong, as it turns out, because of some unusual events. But, but it's hard to argue with the current conventional wisdom most of the time in the real estate world, but occasionally there have been some. You know, there could be big opportunities in the field, but if, if they exist, it will certainly be because there's a. There probably. There'd be a lot of chaos in real estate financing for one reason or other. We've done some real estate financing, and you have to have the money shut off to quite a degree probably to get any big mispricing across the board. Charlie?
[01:42]
B
Yeah, we don't have any competitive advantage over experienced real estate investors in the field, and we wouldn't have if we were operating with our own money as a partnership. And if you operate as a corporation such as ours, which is taxable under Chapter C of the Internal Revenue Code, you get a whole layer of corporate taxes between the real estate income and the use of the income by the people who own the real estate. So by its nature, real estate tends to be a very lousy investment for people who are taxed under subchapter C of the code relating to corporations. So the combination of having it generally allows the activity for people with our tax structure, and having no special competence in the field means that we spend almost no time thinking about anything in real estate, and then such real estate as we've actually done like holding surplus real estate, trying to sell it off. I'd say we have a poor record.
[02:49]
A
Adam Yeah, C Corps really, it doesn't make any sense. I mean, I know there are C Corps around that that are in real estate, but there are other structures that are more attractive. There really aren't other structures. I mean, Lloyd's is an attempt at it to some degree, but there aren't other structures that work well for big insurance companies or. I mean, you can't have a Walmart very well. That does not exist in a C Corp. So they are not subject to S Corp or partnership competition that determines the returns on capital in the discount store field. But if you're competing with S equivalent of S Corps, REITs or partnerships or individuals, you've just got an economic disadvantage as a C Corp, which is, for the those of you who don't love reading the Internal Revenue Code, is just a standard vanilla corporation that you think of all of the Dow Jones companies, all of the S P companies and so on. And as Charlie says, it's unlikely that the disadvantage of our structure combined with the competitive nature of people with better structures buying those kinds of assets will ever lead to anything really interesting. Although I would say that we missed the boat to some extent during the RTC days. I mean, it was a sufficiently inefficient market at that time and there was a lack of financing that we could have made a lot of money if we had been geared up for it at that time. We actually had a few transactions that were pretty interesting, but not. But nothing that was significant in relation to our total capital.
[04:28]
B
We thought significantly about buying the Irvine Corporation when it became available. So that's the only big one I can remember that we seriously thought about.
[04:38]
A
Yeah, that was in 1977 or so. Yeah, Mobile oil was interesting and, you know, Don Brent ended up putting together a group for it. But, you know, that kind of thing could conceivably happen, but it's unlikely.