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Will
All right, everybody. Bingo. B I N G O Celtics training camp. Preseason one week away. We're almost there. So tonight we're gonna help you get your pre season bingo cards ready. What does that mean? Are we positive we know what it means? Maybe, maybe not. Stick around. Turn. Turn it up. Relax. Sit back, relax. Enjoy. It's another episode of Green with Envy. You guys know the deal. Let's lock in. What up, what up, what up? Welcome into another edition of Green with Envy. Shout out to everybody joining us on Live on YouTube and on Twitter. We are gearing up for training camp and preseason. As always, this is your boy, Will. We're checking in. How you doing? How you live? Joining me as he does each and every time, my best friend, co host, the bingo police chairman, the one and only Greg Manakis. Greg, Greg, what's poppin? It's almost time for some real basketball.
Greg Manakis
Do you have a favorite bingo moment or like pop culture bingo reference?
Will
Other than our text exchange today, which I really enjoyed, that was. We'll talk about it here in just a second. That. That might have skyrocketed to the top. I don't know that I used to play bingo. I feel like I used to play bingo. My grandma, like, right. Like that's. I guess that's probably the closest. I don't know if I have a specific bingo moment. Do you have one? I don't know. Yeah, I don't really have one that's jumping to mind right now.
Greg Manakis
I gotta go. Curb your enthusiasm. Where Larry's playing bingo with like all the old people and I think it's like at his. At his dad's retirement home or something like that. And he shows. He gets bingo. And he's just going, bingo. Bingo. That's my.
Will
So that made me think there is. There is one. And it's iconic. It's Troy Brown Bingo. I got bingo. We win again. From his commercial when he did it at the. At the Patriots, I know if it was after the first super bowl or second super bowl, but Detroit, Brown bingo. I got bingo. We win again. That's a good one. That's a good one right there.
Greg Manakis
I don't even know what you're talking about, but it sounds great.
Will
You don't remember this? This is from when. One of the Patriots championship rally parades right in front of city hall. Oh, dude, there's got to be a clip out there somewhere.
Greg Manakis
So many parades will. So many rings over the years, they all kind of just blend together.
Will
They all just blur together at this point. God damn, we are privile. Well, Pats were not privileged yesterday. Red Sox not privileged yesterday either. So, you know, it all. It all comes. It all becomes cyclical. So we'll see. See where we go from here. But as we mentioned, Celtics gearing up. We are one week out from media day training camp getting started. Real basketball is just around the corner. So we're starting to gear up, starting to think about the preseason, and we wanted to try to do this in a fun way. We could just sit here and do, you know, the. The bullet point version of this. But we wanted to come up with something creative. So I'm going to bring in producer Alex Gonzalez here for us. We had an interesting text exchange today, boys. We were trying to figure out what to do, and Greg came up with a great idea. He's like, let's do. Let's do bingo. Let's come up with, like, a bingo concept. Of course, you know, the. The. The old. The old thing didn't have that on my bingo card when something happens, but let's apply it to the context of the preseason and try to predict. But got into a little predicament. And Greg, I want to make sure this is okay with you. Yeah, we were trying to figure out the parameters of. Of how bingo works and very, you know, text wise, felt. Felt aggressively that I was. I was told by you there's only one way and one way only that bingo works. And it's five by five. Despite my time constraint suggestion of doing a 4x4 card. Have we loosened up that stance at all right now? Have you run this up the pole to the bingo police chief?
Greg Manakis
Listen, man, all I was Saying was that when you play bingo, there are five columns, right? One for each letter of the word bingo. So I was trying to make it fun and say, let's come up with some sort of Celtic, like, acronym that we can use for each of those letters. If you're going 4x4. You then came at me super hot and just started telling me that I was the bingo police and started screenshotting bingo rules to me. So I was just like, all right, man, you. So that's. That's kind of where I'm. I don't. I. I have no predilections for what I think bingo should be. I was just trying to come up with some basketball related term for bingo, but bingo's fine. Why. Why change the old hat?
Will
You know, classic. It works. I mean, in 5x5. That is. That is as. As I looked up through my Perplexity app today, that is the traditional way, which no one can argue with. Bi, N, G, O, 5 by 5b on each side makes total sense. But I think for our. For ours, we're gonna do 4x4 for. For the sake of time, because we know how long we tend to run here, but we're gonna. Alex, I wanted you on here, number one, just as a witness to this conversation. But number two, we need to kind of finalize some of the rules of what we want to establish, because the goal after this is going to be once we come up with our 16 bingo squares, Alex is then going to work on putting together an actual bingo card that we can then put together. And if you guys want to join in, we're going to. We'll try to send it out, put it in the DMs, or we'll put it, you know, on Twitter, on Instagram. We'll figure out a way to share it. So that will be on us. That's our homework. But we need to come up with these 16 different squares. So my original thought process here is that we kind of throw out different topics and. Or statements, and then we figure out a way to frame that as to what would make sense to put on a bingo card. Alex or Greg, what were you. What are you guys thinking here as to. As to how we can make this work best?
Greg Manakis
Go ahead, Alex.
Alex Gonzalez
My idea was kind of just like, you know, what are things that might happen? Like, are you. Or what are you expecting to happen in preseason or training camp? Like, obvious, honestly, in the future, Like, I haven't been that locked into preseason. I haven't watched a lot of Celtics preseason basketball. So I'm not sure. Like, I've been to Celtics Wizards, and they had, like, the starters play the first quarter for the first half. But, like, my idea was, like, what do you think would happen during preseason? Or, like, during training camp? Like, how many times is Joe Missoula gonna say a funny quote like, over under four and a half times? Something like that. Who's gonna define their role in a preseason game? Like, who's gonna stand out? Stuff like that. Stuff that could happen. At the same time. We throw. Throw in a couple fun ones. Like, is Anthony Simons going to get a presser? Who knows? Still hasn't got a press conference yet. So I know he's been in the facility, but he hasn't actually been announced on the team. So there's, like, things like that that should happen. You could throw in a couple of those things that might happen. Maybe like a Peyton Pritchard half court buzzer beater. That could happen. Who knows?
Greg Manakis
I love it. I like the way that you're thinking. Alex, by the way, just started his. Is it internship or job with the Capitals?
Alex Gonzalez
Internship started on Thursday.
Greg Manakis
Okay, so tell. Just real quick, one minute. Tell the people what you're doing for the Washington Capitals.
Alex Gonzalez
I'm helping out with their digital media team. Kind of what I'm doing here, but on a larger scale.
Will
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. This is a professional goddamn operation here.
Greg Manakis
You're fine?
Alex Gonzalez
Yeah, I've only been there two days. I didn't go in today. I didn't have practice, so they didn't want me in. But going in tomorrow. Haven't done much. Was like 4ft away from Ovechkin. Pretty surreal moment for me. Yeah, I'm excited to work there. I'm excited to help the team, and I can't wait for the season to get started. They actually played the Bruins in Boston yesterday for their first preseason game, so.
Greg Manakis
That's awesome, man. And you're also writing for Celtics Blog now?
Alex Gonzalez
Yes, I am. My first article pending, so be on the lookout for that if you're a Celtics blog enjoyer. It's about Jalen Brown, so. Okay, so if Tennelson, if you read that, I hope you're gonna be happy about that one.
Greg Manakis
I like where your brain is at. Congrats on all the success, Alex. That's great. You know, things that you're expecting to happen, things you're wanting to happen. Because I was kind of thinking about this, like, should this bingo game be. Each member of the team has their own card, and we're, like, playing Bingo against each other, or is it a collective Green with envy community bingo card? Right. So, like, when all these things happen, like, the. The GWE community wins the bingo game, or are we competing? I'm kind of leaning towards. It's just a community thing and fans.
Will
Can play along, because I like the idea that, like, each week, we can kind of update it. We don't do it every episode, but maybe if we're doing once, we're gonna get back to two episodes a week here in the near future. So we can do one episode each week. Let's check in with our bingo card. Let's kind of see where we're at, and then we can keep updating it. So I think the community idea is definitely what I'm on board for. And I think, Alex, what you were saying, as far as how we fill out the squares, I think it's a mix of everything that you were saying. Like, some of it is things that might happen on court. Right. Some of it's gonna be. I think some of it's even, like, narrative. Like, there's gonna be a podcast about this, or someone in the general media sense is gonna have the. This hot take. Like, there's a couple. There's things like that that we can kind of mix together. So I think what we need to do right now is we need to come together, and we need to figure out what are the 16 best squares that we can come up with. So let's. Let's start breaking this down here. So I think what we can do is we'll just kind of go around the horn here. And we'll just. We'll just start throwing ideas out, and then we'll try to whittle it down to. To what our. Our best 16 are. Greg, you want to. Want to kick us off here with something that you think is, like, no doubt got to be on there.
Alex Gonzalez
Also, if in the chat, you can comment, too, if you haven't.
Will
Yes. Good call, Alex. That's why he's the producer man. So we get the jobs.
Greg Manakis
So I just. Real quick, I. I also want to just throw out some other things I was thinking about. So it could be, like, something an announcer says on a broadcast, right? Maybe something that fans say to each other on Twitter. Maybe we, like, do a quick Twitter search and we find somebody or, like, something on the bingo card. T. Nelson yells at us for something that we. You know, he. He tells us Jaylen Brown's gonna meet MVP or something. Maybe it could be something in the podcast universe, something that pops up on espn. It could be something that, like, a player says in. In one of the press conferences. So the first one I was thinking is, like, somebody says, this is the best shape I've ever, you know, I've ever been in. I'm ready for the challenge. You know, like some generic equip that.
Will
I think the only caveat I'll say that is we should make it specific. Like, I think for, well, for that, like, I think it should be. Not everything has to be specific, but I think for that one, it should.
Greg Manakis
Be like a certain player.
Will
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Do you have someone in mind that you were thinking? I mean, that is a very, like, where someone's gonna say that on media day. There's no doubt about it. It's just a matter of who do you think is gonna say or who do you think is going to be said about as well. That can, that can also be in there.
Greg Manakis
I'm gonna go, Jordan Walsh. First one. Jordan Walsh is going to say, this is the best shape I've ever been in. I'm ready for the challenge. Or there's like, somebody, like, on a broadcast, Scal talks about, like, if Jordan Walsh has a moment in one of the preseason games, he'll talk about how, like, everybody around camp is saying how Jordan Walsh looks the best he's ever looked. Jordan Walsh is my pick for. This guy's in the best shape of his life. And that's, you know, I think that's a good place to start talking about Jordan Walsh.
Will
I like, I mean, it's the preseason, so that's the other thing that we should add to this. This all needs to happen before game one of the regular season. This is. So it has to be contextualized within that bubble. This is within from starting at media day through right before the day before game one. That's when we're, we're looking for, for this to happen. So I like that because Jordan Walsh, I mean, Alex made the point here. If you're going to be tuning in, locking into some Celtics preseason basketball, you're going to see Jordan Walsh. Will we see him starting opening night tbd? It could depend how he does in the preseason. So Jordan Walsh being on the bingo board, I think that's a must. I like that one a lot. Craig. The next one I'm gonna go to, and I want to see how you guys feel about shaping this new white guy. Love. I just, I, I, It's Boston. There's, there's, there's multiple white guys in this team, and we're by the way, for new white guy love. Peyton Pritchard, not eligible. Too much white guy love. Sam Houser, same thing. He's got plenty of white guy love. I'm gonna say Baylor Shireman is still eligible for this because he's still newish, right? Like, so. So to me, new white guy love is qualified as Luca Garzer. I'm putting Hugo Gonzalez in there. Max Shulga, and Baylor Shireman, one of those guys in the way that I'm defining new. New white guy love. And I'm gonna try and say the phrase new white guy love as much as I possibly can right here is. Is if you think back, like, Peyton Pritchard's, like, rookie year, it's like, oh, like, all of a sudden, people got, like, a little. Ended up being correctly so excited about Peyton Pritchard. But we jumped the gun a little bit at times in the. In the early parts, it might have blended into, like, the beginning of the season, but I think one of those four guys is gonna get the white guy Boston bump. And I don't know which one it's going to be, so it's a little bit generic. So this is where I'm saying I. You know, I'm speaking out of both sides of my mouth. Do you guys want me to get specific with this one, or can we leave this as the quartet of one of these guys is getting that white guy bomb?
Greg Manakis
I think you gotta, you know, stand on. Stand on this new white guy love ground, and you gotta take your pick. Which white guy are you professing your love for?
Will
I'm gonna say, so this isn't my love. This is my prediction. So it's not necessarily mine, but this is my prediction, okay? If I have to pick one, I'm gonna say Luca Garza, I'm gonna say Luca Garza gets the white guy bump. So that's. That's what I'll put down here. Luca Garza, white guy bump.
Alex Gonzalez
Honestly, I can see that with our limited front court, he does semi good in a preseason game. People are gonna start thinking that's kind.
Will
Of my thought process. He'll get. He'll get a lot of playing time and a lot of opportunity early on. I think Hugo's another one potentially. But I think Luca Garza, he's. He's gonna be the guy that no one's really sure of unless you're locked in like you. You. We don't know about Luca Garza at Iowa three years ago. You know what I mean? Like, you're not Thinking of that, unless you're really, really locked in. So I think he's gonna be potentially a pleasant surprise that gets. Gets that elevation. Alex, you got one for us?
Alex Gonzalez
I kind of just want to go with the. Anthony Simon's presser, because it's either gonna happen or he gets traded. Like, I feel like it's gotta happen.
Will
That's pretty good.
Alex Gonzalez
Like, it's one or the other. So he's been in Boston for at least a month now. Like, I mean, I want to see him in a Celtics uniform for at least.
Will
They finally. I think it was last week. I think he was working out the hour back center, and they finally put him in a photo. I was like, holy. It does. It's.
Alex Gonzalez
I know.
Will
Leprechaun. It does exist, right? Like, it's like a lucky Charms. Like, it's finally seeing Anthony Simons in anything resembling, you know, Boston Celtics, you know, social media gear. Yeah, anything. Because other than the trade being, you know, announced by Shams, it's like, really been just quiet. Haven't heard anything. So I think that's a good one. Anthony Simons had to be on here as well. You guys want to go Snake or how you guys want to do this? You want to go back to you, Greg? What's the. What's the best way.
Greg Manakis
Yeah, we can come back to me. So let's just recap so far. So we got Jordan Wallace, Jordan Walsh, best shape of his life. Report slash quote, new white guy. Love to Luca Garza. Anthony Simons gets a press conference.
Will
Yep. So back to you, Greg.
Greg Manakis
Okay, I'm gonna go. In the first game in which he actually, like, plays significant minutes. I don't. You guys can define what significant minutes are if you want. It's just like, not. He's coming in for, like, two minutes in the fourth quarter. Hugo Gonzalez's hand size is mentioned over 2.5 times in his first game. Do I need to do an over under here or do I just say he. His hand size is mentioned in the first game.
Alex Gonzalez
I think hand sign. Hand size is mentioned. Is completely fine. I think in his first game. I don't think you need to set a line.
Will
Yeah, I don't know if we need. Yeah, I don't know if we need a line for it because I think they're. It's. It's interesting. You know what? I. I'm going back and forth because I kind of like the idea of, like, a line of, like, one and a half because they're going to mention it right away when he Comes in like, there's no doubt about it. But the second he gets a tip ball, there go those big hands. Like, it's immediately coming. I can already hear Drew saying it. I can hear Drew making jokes about his. You know what they say about big hands? Like, I feel like I can already hear him, like, developing this within.
Greg Manakis
Okay, let's go over 1.5 then.
Will
Yeah. Over 1. Over 1. Hand size reference. Over 1.5. I like that. And I would define. I would say significant minutes would be, I don't know, over. Over 12, 15. Somewhere in that range. Maybe that's too high. I don't know.
Greg Manakis
I mean, his hand is what, nine and a half inches? 10 inches.
Will
So should we say 10 minutes?
Greg Manakis
10 minutes.
Will
Minute per inch. I like it. If only it always worked that way.
Greg Manakis
I was gonna say that.
Will
Oh, man. Okay, Hugo. And hand size references over one and a half with at least 10 minutes played. So it won't count until. And that's the first. But.
Greg Manakis
But what if. What if Drew. What if he plays under 10 minutes and he just. Drew just mentioned.
Will
That still hits. That still counts. I mean, if he mentions it twice and he plays five minutes. He mentions it twice. Yeah, that. That hits. No doubt about it.
Greg Manakis
We've got our first four.
Will
I like that. I like that. We're rolling here. We're rolling here. Okay, I'm gonna go with an on court one here. And let's get in the zone. Auto zone.
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Will
Go to Nemius Kada and I'm going to say, and I'm going to need you guys to help me set this line here that in the preseason, Nemius Keda is going to have another Angel Reese moment. So meaning on one single possession, he is going to have. And this is where I put in here, or the line I put is three and a half offensive rebounds in one possession off of his own miss shots. I. Maybe that's too high. Maybe we go two and a half. Two and a half as the. As the line, but. Yeah, I hope it doesn't.
Alex Gonzalez
Three and a half.
Will
Yeah. I mean, I mean, honestly, if I haven't gone back and done the full research, it feels like it sometimes has gotten to that. That couple of times that it's happened, but. But I like that. Neus Ka pulling the angel re special. 2 and a half offensive rebounds on his own misses in one possession.
Greg Manakis
Okay.
Will
Figure out how to shorten that down.
Greg Manakis
What. What if it's just offensive rebounds on the same possession? Because here's how I kind of see it happening. He gets an offensive rebound. He misses the first one, he tips it, he misses the second one. Is he gonna tip that third one? Right. So. So I think it should be just 2.5 offensive rebounds on the same possession in one possession.
Will
Okay. Yeah.
Greg Manakis
It doesn't have to be his own.
Will
All right, that's number five. We're rolling here. All right, Alex, we're. We're coming back to you here. This is your second piece of the bingo card here. What do you got for us?
Alex Gonzalez
Honestly, I was kind of drawing a blank, but I. Mine is. I think that Max Shulga will have at least one preseason game where he makes at least five three pointers.
Greg Manakis
Oh, the Carson Edwards Max Shulga game. I like it.
Alex Gonzalez
Yeah. And then people are going crazy.
Greg Manakis
Yeah. So how about we phrase it as Max Shulga goals, Full Carson.
Will
Yeah. Yeah, I like that. That works. Honestly, if that happens, that's. That's trouble for my. For my white guy bump pick? I think that that might. That might flip the narrative right there.
Alex Gonzalez
It might.
Will
I like it. I like that we have competing squares, though. I think that makes sense.
Greg Manakis
Yeah. No, I do like that. So it's not necessary. And are you okay with me saying it doesn't have to be five threes. He just has to have, like, a big time heat check? Yeah.
Alex Gonzalez
If he makes, like, three in a row and then he pulls one from, like, 30.
Will
Yeah. Five is. Five's a lot. I. I would say even three made threes would be. Would be a good.
Greg Manakis
Let's just go. Max Shoga has his Carson Edwards moment.
Will
That's fine. Yeah, we can define that. Can be subjective. That's fine.
Greg Manakis
Okay, cool. All right, back to me.
Will
Yep. Back to you, Greg.
Greg Manakis
All right. Are we sure that Drew Carter is calling the games in the preseason?
Will
I would assume. I don't. I don't know why he wouldn't be.
Greg Manakis
Okay, so I'm gonna go. Drew Carter makes a Kawhi Leonard joke in game one.
Will
Okay, so, right. So not. Not the whole preseason, just right out the gate. Okay. Let's go for it. I like it.
Greg Manakis
Okay. Yeah. Shout out to. I believe this is Alex's boy Costas. He says, have you all talked about the Kawhi situation? So that kind of just triggered that, and I could. I kind of forgot, like, how much Drew likes to joke around. And that just made me think of. So shout out to Costas for making me think of Kawhi, which made me think of Drew and making Kawhi Leonard joke. So Drew Carter makes a Kawhi Leonard joke in game one. Officially on the Bingo.
Will
Okay. I like that. I like that. Yeah, Drew, a lot of these that we're talking about now, I'm, like, picturing Drew speaking some of these, like, into existence. Like, in. As he's doing the play by play. All right, so this next one, I'm trying to think of whether this should be a tweet or if I should try to associate this with a podcast or a YouTube video. Someone is gonna zag and tell you the Celtics can win 50 games. Should we make that? I think. I think a fan is likely to happen. I want to beat a little bit more challenging. So someone in the media. Someone. Whether it's Celtics media or it's national media, I think someone is going to zag and tell you the Celtics can win 50. That's going to be. That's going to be my one for the. For this year.
Greg Manakis
I think it has to be on, like, an act. It has to be on, like, Comcast or espn.
Will
Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean. Well, I mean, just like, a prominent, like, you know, podcast. Like, even if, like, someone from, you know, the ringer or even. It can't be just, like, like, nobodies. Like, it has to be, like, something that you're like, okay, listen, I found it here. Like, someone. John Hollinger is saying the Celtics are going to win.
Greg Manakis
So someone who would likely have media credentials to a Celtics game.
Will
Yeah, likely so not.
Greg Manakis
Okay. Yeah. Credentialed media zag zones. Okay. Zag. Credentialed media zag.
Will
Yep. Celtics can win 50 games this season.
Greg Manakis
So it has to be. Celtics can win 50. Celtics. Celtics can win 50.
Will
All right, let's. So we got eight right now. Alex, do you have one here? I know you said you were. You were drawing a blank. If you are, that's okay. I got a whole list here.
Alex Gonzalez
I guess mine would be, like, something about, like, Tatum, like, visiting a preseason game or being courtside.
Will
Okay.
Alex Gonzalez
I don't know how present he'll be.
Will
But let's go into this because I actually have one that's similar on my list. So this is where I want to mind meld a little bit. If we have something similar so that we can. We can get. I have it on my list here. Someone's writing the article. Someone's doing the podcast about JT being back in February or January. Someone's. Someone's getting that media day, and it kind of already happened. Right. I kind of feel like already, like, I don't know, you're already. You're already hearing people like, I don't know, man, he's moving better than I ever thought. He got that surgery the next day.
Greg Manakis
Boston Sports radio has already done this.
Will
Yeah. Okay. They. They already said he's coming. They think he's coming back.
Alex Gonzalez
In fact, someone said early March, like, two days ago, I think something.
Will
Okay, so let's. So let's think about this. Let's. Like, what's another iteration of this then? If that's. If that's already happened, what is. What is another way to frame that? I guess.
Greg Manakis
Okay, here's. Here's one thing to think about. On every bingo board, there is one free square. I don't know if this applies to the 4x4 bingo rules.
Will
I'll tell you what, Greg. I went to the generator. It does not work that. That you need a five by five. That's. That's.
Greg Manakis
That's.
Will
That's a fair. It's a fair point there. But this could be our. Our. Our floating free space is what I.
Greg Manakis
What I think you're kind of getting since it's. Yeah. Since it's already happened. But, yeah, let's. Let's think about this a little bit more. We haven't had anything with Scal. You know, Scal loves talking about Jason Tatum and his muscles and all that, so maybe it's something with Scal and hit, like, reporting on what he's seen from.
Will
Here we go. So. So just the way that you were. Like, Drew makes a kawhi joke. Scale talks about how he thinks. Scale with no medical degree talks about how he thinks. Tate was ahead of schedule.
Greg Manakis
Okay.
Alex Gonzalez
Okay, I like that. Yeah.
Greg Manakis
Okay. Scal talks about Tatum being ahead of schedule. I love it. Okay, so I think we're on square number 10.
Will
Yeah, we're on the 10 here. We're on the 10 here. We'Re. We're cooking with gas right now, Greg. What, it's, it's back to you here. So take this wherever you want.
Greg Manakis
I was actually gonna do another scal one here, which is okay, but maybe. Well, I'll just throw it out there as a statement, okay. And you guys help me mold it. Somebody says Anthony Simons is actually the most talented offensive player on the roster. Like, we've seen him up close. We can't believe how talented this guy actually is. He might even be the most talented offensive player on our team. That report comes out or somebody in training camp says that.
Will
Okay, I have, I have something similar written down or it's in the same, same vein where it's. And I have both the inverse of this written down as well, too. Simons is a steal and Simons is overrated or Simon's is a disaster. Like, I have both of those kind of floating around. But I think the Simons is the best offensive player on this team. Like, I, I think again, I think this goes into the realm of kind of what I said about the, like the media day. Like, like this is going to be a media this and this is probably gonna be a more hyper Boston focus when I'd be surprised if this goes to like, the Wendy's and, and all that. Yeah, but, but I, but I, this is. Whether it's Corralis or Forsberg or, or somebody of, of that ilk comes out after Simons looks really good. And it's, yeah, Jalen Brown's the best player, but I think Simons is the best offensive player. So that, that's, that take, I think could come in the preseason.
Greg Manakis
Thoughts, Alex?
Alex Gonzalez
Ah, I like it. I think that's a good one.
Will
All right. Simons is the best offensive player. Some.
Alex Gonzalez
We already kind of saw that with that anonymous gm. I love how anonymous gms are just say anything, but. Yeah, I think that, yeah, that's gonna be out there.
Will
I, I, I, this is a little slight aside. I'm getting a little excited to watch Anthony Simons. He's just a guy that's completely flown under the radar for me as far as like, like NBA watching. Like, I just don't watch a lot of Blazers. They're, they're, they're one of those teams that's on late especially, you know, towards the end of the Dame error. It just wasn't really fun to watch. Like, I did like the, the Dame CJ teams I thought were kind of fun to watch, but then like, Simons was, was never really a part of that. He kind of came up CJ left and Then they were never really that good. So Simon has always been a guy I've seen in, like, highlights. I. I honestly don't know how many full games I've really watched. Anthony Simon. So I'm getting. I'm hyping myself up here in the next week or so to. To get ready for some Anthony Simons ball.
Alex Gonzalez
Yeah. And he was also the only player we really got back this off season from any of our trade acquisitions.
Will
So, like, Luca Garza begs to differ. My g. Come on. Josh Minor. Yeah, we got the Josh Mina second segment of this. Of this.
Alex Gonzalez
We should probably throw him.
Will
Just hold on here, guys. Hold on. All right, so Simon is the best offensive player. Take. Let's see here. We're on the 11th one. Doesn't really matter now. We're just throwing out ideas.
Greg Manakis
Can we just. Just pause on the Simons? Because Alex made me think about that. That report kind of already has come out. Right. So do we want that on our bingo board since that's already kind of come out?
Will
Okay, let's talk about. Let's get something with Simon. Simons needs to be honest because he is the mo. He's the most interesting, consequential player to watch. Right. In preseason. Right. So he has to be on here in some way.
Alex Gonzalez
Maybe. Like, I know that they said Pritchard was going to start, but maybe he has like, a pretty good camp, and reports are saying that he.
Greg Manakis
She.
Alex Gonzalez
He should start over. Pritchard.
Greg Manakis
Okay, how about he just wins the starting job?
Alex Gonzalez
Yeah. Wins the starting job.
Will
That's it. Simon's wins the starting job. That's it right there. Yep.
Greg Manakis
Okay. I love it.
Alex Gonzalez
Who? Kosa said All Star candidate. Oh, okay.
Will
So here's one. So, I mean, this is. This is definitely gonna happen as well, too, but it's once again how we. We frame it. I wasn't thinking Simons, but I had Peyton Pritchard for All Star when that. That. Now this is one that I feel like if he. I don't know if it's gonna make the national because preseason is preseason. Right. Like, that's probably more like a weekend. Peyton Pritchard has some good games, and all of a sudden, you know, Tim Bondet or somebody is like, I don't know, Peyton Pritchard could make the All Star team. Look at how weak the east looks five games into the season. Like, I think that that could certainly happen. But preseason. Peyton Pritchard for All Star. Anthony Simons for All Star. Like, I. I think there's something there, but I don't I don't. I don't know. What do you guys think?
Greg Manakis
Well, here's my thing. I think we need more things that happen in the games.
Alex Gonzalez
Yeah.
Greg Manakis
Yeah. We only have Gonzalez's hand size mentioned. Nemius, Kate is Angel Reese moment. Max Shoga goes full Carson. That's the. The. We only have three things that actually happen in the games. I think we need a couple more.
Will
Alex, you said you have one. Go for it.
Alex Gonzalez
Yeah. The Josh Minot just like sparked a memory in my mind because he had those. Those crazy dunks during the pro am. So maybe he pulls out like a crazy 360 or some.
Will
Some. Some crazy dunk during the mine. It has a poster.
Alex Gonzalez
Yeah. Or just. Yeah, something crazy. Like a crazy slam. Yeah, mine has.
Greg Manakis
Okay. Yeah. Josh minus poster. Cool. I love it.
Will
I like that. I like.
Greg Manakis
I. I actually had one for mine as well, and it was Josh Mina catches a body. So that. That works. That. That fits in there.
Will
All right, so we've got 11 down. We got a few more to go here. So we're on 12. I'm looking through my list here. Anybody have one that's jumping out to them right now? I feel like we gotta get Missoula in here. Everybody got a Joe Missoula one. We gotta. I, I have. I have. I have one written down that just says, what is Joe doing? That's just. The note that I have is. You know, I don't know if it's gonna be him busting out zone. He tries a lineup with five guards or something. Like. I. I don't know. I just. Joe is the most. Joe is the most fascinating part of the season for me. Like, by far. He. And from day one, I'm just watching and kind of. Kind of ready to dissect every little move that. That Joe makes. I like. Joe Missoula is ejected from a game that was from.
Greg Manakis
I like that here.
Will
That's good. I just. I, you know, for as crazy as he is, has he. He's been ejected from what, one game in three years maybe? And that's just me guessing. Like, I don't think he actually gets as teed up or tossed in the way that, like you would think, the way that he speaks of his. His UFC mentality.
Greg Manakis
What about. He just gets a technical.
Will
Yeah, preseason. Yeah, preseason attack is pretty. It's pretty ridiculous. But yeah, we could do that. I'm. I'm game with that. I'm game with that. That's. That's an in game thing that we can look for. And it's Joe's intensity. So I like that Joe gets a preseason tech.
Alex Gonzalez
Only been injected once. 20, 22 against the Bulls.
Greg Manakis
Shout out to J Dogs.
Will
Isn't that kind of surprising? Right, like with. Once again, like with Joe's. And when he gets hot, he gets hot. Right. But he does. He does do a good job of cooling himself down within the interview. Him after. He's, like, real fired up. He's like, doesn't matter. We're all gonna die. Like, he just. He. He just. He just resets himself, like, really well. And that's, you know, all of his. His training that he does with Jiu Jitsu, whatever else, but. Okay, so Joe gets a preseason tech. All right, we're on to number 13. Who's got something for us here?
Greg Manakis
I have another one with Hugo, but I don't know that I wanted to have two Hugo things on our board. He is a. He is kind of.
Will
I believe it's Ugo, by the way. Just so. Yeah. Just making sure we get it right going forward.
Greg Manakis
Ugo. Ugo. Okay, so the. The note I have for him, I have two notes for him. Ugo outshines Jordan Walsh. I don't know how we can, like, kind of put that. Is that a full training camp thing? Is that a training camp battle somebody finds? Because I haven't found it yet. The perfect Ugo player comp. Or it, like, comes to us in the preseason.
Will
Yeah, I haven't seen enough of them to make a comp yet.
Greg Manakis
Yeah, those are the two Ugo ones that I have here.
Will
Yeah, I mean, I like the. The Ugo outplays Jordan Washing. It's just like, that's gonna be real. That's something we probably can't even tell until game one. It's like, oh, Ugo's first off the bench or.
Greg Manakis
Right.
Will
He's clearly getting. Getting the run before.
Greg Manakis
This could be like. Ugo averages more points, rebounds, assist steals than Walsh or something in the preseason.
Will
That's a good one. Yeah, let's. Well, let's think about it. Like, what. This is the thing. Ugo is just still so unknown because all of his stats from his professional league are like, he was on the bottom of the totem pole. You can't really pull too much from those. And it's like smaller clips, so it's hard to know, like, where his game is going to fit in in the preseason where at least Jordan Walsh. We've. We've seen him a couple times. Like, we know what, like, I. I would be shocked if he has A high assist total. Right? Like, that just doesn't seem like that's going to be Jordan Walsh. He could have a higher scoring output. He could be more active on the boards. Those things seem a little bit more likely. So this is. This is a tough one to try to. To try to wrangle in.
Alex Gonzalez
I got one for RJ Lewis, the guy that we got from.
Will
We're getting deep cut here. All right, let's go to RJ Lewis. We'll circle back.
Alex Gonzalez
Drops 20 and one preseason game.
Will
Okay.
Alex Gonzalez
Average 18.2 at St. John's you can obviously score. Come on, give him some minutes. He could get out there.
Will
I mean, this is a good one because this kind of goes along with the shulga. Take that, that you had here, Alex. Where these guys are just going to get some chances, right? Like, there's going to be a couple games where they basically play the whole second half. Although I feel like in the last couple preseasons I'd have to go back and definitively look this up. Like, I feel like Joe plays a lot of the main rotation a little bit longer than you would expect. Yeah, well, because that's always one of the Missoula things, right? It's like, dude, get them off the court. Like, this game doesn't matter. Like, stop it. You're freaking us out, man. So. But. But at some point, these guys are gonna have to get a look. So RJ Lewis drops 20. We don't have a Jalen Brown thing. We gotta have something for Jalen Brown on here. There's no Jalen Brown. Should we maybe do. Jalen Brown does a live stream mid game.
Alex Gonzalez
Oh, do that.
Will
No, I don't think he can. I was just around, but I just think.
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Will
This is new. Did you guys see the clip of him not getting his phone calls picked up by the Salvage?
Greg Manakis
Yeah, he realized that. Is he changed his number.
Will
Oh, is that. I didn't see that part of it. That's because then I saw Jeff Teague was, like, making fun of him, and then Jeff T. Called Jason Tatum, and he picked up right away.
Greg Manakis
No, Jalen. Jalen said he forgot that he changed his number. So Peyton Pritchard reached out, and I was like, hey, who? Like, who's this? And then jb. And JB was like, oh, it's jb. But he was like, I forgot I changed my number. That's why nobody picked up.
Will
I wonder how many. Like, I feel like these athletes must change their number all the time. So I feel like that has to be a pretty common thing where they're just calling from new numbers, getting a whole new set of contacts. Like, gotta start. Can you imagine how annoyed you'd be like, I started another group chat? Like, we already had a group chat, Jalen. Now we gotta do another one. Oh, God. Okay. Okay. So what can we do for. For Jalen Brown? I had. I had a few on my list here that were just like, you know, it's gonna be too early for Greg to bring back his yearly take. Are we sure Jalen isn't better than Tatum? I think it's going to be a little too early for. For that take. But if he's. If he has a bad preseason, is it going to be too early for someone to say he still has no left? Jalen can distribute. I don't know. Do we.
Greg Manakis
Do we want to do a negative Jalen thing or is that. I feel like that's too much for this game. Like, the Jalen Brown's not ready for this moment report or something.
Will
Yeah, I mean, it's preseason. Like, I can't imagine that happening. But I. I'm just trying to. Like I said, it's similar to what I did with Anthony Simons on my list, where it's like, this could go either way. This could be extremely positive. Like, holy, this guy's way better than I thought, or, man, that guy doesn't play any defense. So for Jalen, I think it's. It's somewhat similar, but on the positive. So maybe we Just do leave Jalen out, because it's just like, we know who Jalen is. It's gonna be a regular season commentary for. For Jalen, so maybe we'll leave him to the side. Here's a. Here's another young guy that I got on here, Amari Williams. Yeah. When do we get a. Everybody loves a good overreaction. That makes no sense. Mario Williams, talented big man that can pass the ball. Who's gonna make the. Who's gonna compare him to. Who do you think I'm gonna say?
Greg Manakis
I have no idea.
Will
I'm just gonna say Jokic. But who's. Who's gonna say he passes like Jokic? That's. That's what's gonna. Maybe we just put it as who. Who does the over exaggeration or the Mario Williams overreaction. Am I right? There we go. That's a good way to put it. Yeah. We get an Amari Williams overreaction, and that can be in a few different ways. That could be on the broadcast, that could be in podcast form, and, you.
Greg Manakis
Know, somebody calls him the steal the draft.
Will
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. An Amari Williams overreaction. There we go.
Greg Manakis
Okay, we got two more.
Will
We got two more to go here, guys. Let's. We're cooking here. So we're at 15. What do we got?
Greg Manakis
Let's see. We've got a couple.
Alex Gonzalez
I think I have a Jalen Brown one.
Greg Manakis
Okay, go for it, Alex.
Alex Gonzalez
He mentioned that he would watch film on stream, so maybe he watches preseason film on stream with his chat. Oh, does J. Brown watch film on stream before the season? He seems to want to incorporate his streaming with his. His NBA season this year. I'm not really sure how that's going to work.
Greg Manakis
No, but Jalen Brown streams a film session. Yes, There you go. Okay. Streams a film session. I love it. Okay, in the chat we have. Let's see, Costas Suggested over under 1.5 heave makes from Pritchard. I think we could put that. As Pritchard takes a half or makes a half court shot. Nick Podolski says, deuce pulls up courtside.
Will
That's a.
Greg Manakis
He also says. Yeah, I don't. I don't think Deuce shows up. I. I think Deuce is going to sit the season out with. With his dad.
Will
Could be. Could be. Hey, by both time, that kid gets to bed on time, right? Give him. Give him. Give him school year getting a bed on time. Come on, man.
Greg Manakis
Okay, Lily says JB does IRL stream courtside. So that kind of. We had Mentioned that earlier. Right. Is that even allowed?
Will
Yeah, I don't think.
Greg Manakis
Right.
Will
No chance. That's gonna be.
Alex Gonzalez
Yeah, yeah.
Will
Shout out to Lily. What's up, Billy? So JB Stream.
Greg Manakis
Okay, how about that? Jalen streams a film session or does IRL courtside.
Alex Gonzalez
Yeah, I like that.
Greg Manakis
Okay, we can combine those.
Will
All right. All right.
Alex Gonzalez
That'd be crazy.
Will
All right, we got one last one here, guys. So let's. Let's take some time here and make sure we get this. This one right. I have a funny one here that just. Just because I keep. This is my own personal one, but just somebody remembers Xavier. Xavier Tillman is still on this team. I don't know how we would quantify that, but I just. I literally keep forgetting that he's on this team. And when you actually think about it, like, I know his last year was an absolute roster. There's a good chance he's actually probably. He might be ahead of Luca Garza in the depth chart right now as like the first big off the bench. Besides. Well, depending on if Boucher starts or not. Like, that's. El Boucher is another guy that we haven't mentioned yet. That's another one that. That could be in the mix. But yeah. Xavier Tillman, shout out to you, man. Hopefully you have a bounce back here because I keep forgetting about you. What else?
Greg Manakis
Do you have anything else written down? I have a couple. I wrote Jordan Walsh hits multiple corner threes. Jordan Walsh makes me. Greg, think of Andre Guadala. That's a very personal one. I don't know. Yeah, that's probably going to be game one. Just me seeing him, just the way he runs. But yeah, those are all the ones that I had written down. I don't really have anything else.
Will
I got one or two left in here that really haven't been touched. So the ones that I have left here are. Somebody's gonna say Chris Boucher should start. Right. Someone's gonna make. Gonna make that case. The other one I have here is who throws out fake Sam Houser trades. Feel like he's one of the last guys left that potentially could be on the move. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Because the only other one I had left was. Is also probably more of a regular season thing was gonna be is someone's gonna make the claim that Derrick White is actually the second best player on the Celtics even with Jason Tatum healthy, that Derrick White is the second best player. But that's. That's more of a. Of a regular season one. So. Yeah. So let's try to find Something in game. Something, something we can do with Derrick White pocket threes, maybe. Is there or does Derrick White have a new three point celebration this year?
Greg Manakis
I, I feel like he's not much of a innovator in terms of like, celebrations. He does the pocketful threes and all he does is just look at his, look at his three fingers. Right. So I'm Derek. I feel like he's gonna stick with that. He seems like a very simple guy. Yeah, that, that could be something though. You could put that on the bingo card. I do think cool, genuine Phil deserves a shout. He says Baylor White chocolate Rondo dropping dimes. So one thing I could see happening is a Baylor Shireman off the elbow white chocolate pass.
Will
I mean, I'm, I, that would be. First of all, if you, if you call that and that's correct. Like, that's nuts if he does that. I, so, okay, so I like where your heads at? I think that's too outside. Like, I just don't think that has any chance of hitting. And again, okay, I will eat my, I will eat my words. If you're, if you're somehow right. I'll come on here, I'll lay out hand up, up. You know all that. But I do like going down this Baylor Shireman route of. I was thinking like, you know, from the little bit that we've seen, and I think we go two ways with it. Either something to do with his passing like we're talking about, or it feels like Baylor Scheiman's gonna be that new, like, hustle guy. Like, almost like bail. Let's steal our, from our, from our friends over at first to the floor. How many like Baylor Shireman hits the floor three times in one game, like first, you know what I mean? Dives on the floor, dives into the crowd. Yeah, like, like some combination of that. And we can keep it to one game or we could keep it to tracking throughout the, the preseason where it's like Baylor Simon does this three times in the preseason. And you know, maybe after three games we're like, he's done it twice, got one more game. And like, we're kind of like on edge. Like, is Baylor Shireman gonna hit? Maybe that's the square that we need to win our community bingo. And we're waiting to see will Baylor Shireman get on the floor to earn that bench spot, that rotation spot. So I, I, it doesn't have to be the diving on the floor thing, but I like something with Baylor Shireman could be three point shots, could be Passing. Yeah.
Greg Manakis
Tommy Award.
Will
Yeah. Tommy Award is. Is. I. I kind of wish. You know what? I kind of wish they hyped up the Tommy Award more. I feel like. I feel like that's something, you know, every once in a while they bring it up and like, I almost forget. They still do give that out every game. I wish the lineage of that was still a little bit stronger. But that's a. That's an aside. But, yeah. What can we do with Baylor shopping? What do you guys think is the. The best attribute to watch of Baylor Shyman, or to keep an eye on for this. For this preseason?
Alex Gonzalez
I like the hustle aspect, like diving on the floor, but I think we should track that throughout the whole preseason.
Will
Okay, what's the line?
Alex Gonzalez
Like two and a half times? Like, how many real times you have a chance to die for a ball in a game? Maybe once.
Greg Manakis
Yeah, good point.
Alex Gonzalez
So, like, he takes that. I mean, if he has the opportunity, we've seen him do it. Like, I expect him to do it, but, like, how many times does he get that opportunity?
Greg Manakis
Here, here's. It's a great point, Alex. One thing I'm thinking about is the rule changes, right? And I know Peyton Pritchard heaves have been mentioned. What if. What if now that the heaves don't count against field goal percentage, people are fighting to take heaves and it's not just Pritchard taking the heaves. What if it's like somebody other than Peyton Pritchard takes a full court heave? Maybe it's better.
Will
I like this. How about this? Just to your point? Anyone other than Peyton Pritchard hits?
Alex Gonzalez
It's or takes hits?
Will
I like, I think hits. I think hits. Anyone other than Peyton Pritchard hits an end of quarter heave?
Alex Gonzalez
Because they're gonna take. If it's not counted again, they're gonna take it every time.
Will
Yeah. And Peyton's not going to be in every single time. So. So I think especially in the preseason, in the. In the regular season be different story. But in the preseason, there should be a couple guys that get an opportunity. So anyone besides Payton Pritchard hits a. He hits an end of quarter peeve.
Greg Manakis
Love it. All right, we made our 16 squares. You want to recap it first? Recap first, Will.
Will
Yeah, let's do it here. So we got 16 squares that we're gonna be coming up with. We've got Jordan Walsh, best shape in my life. Luke Garza, the white guy. Bump. Anthony Simons gets a presser. Is he still on the team? Ugo hand size reference over one and a half with at least 10 minutes played in his first game. Neemi over 2.5 offensive rebounds in one possession. AKA the Angel Reboot Special. Max Shoga one preseason game with. Oh, we changed this one. Sorry I didn't update this one. Max Shoga goes full Carson heat check moment for Max Shoga. Drew Carter makes Kawhi joke in game one. Gotta plant them trees. Media Zag. Celtics can win 50 games this season. Who's gonna step up to the plate? Who has that take scale has scowl medical opinion has JT ahead of schedule. Look out. Coming soon. Jason Tatum back on the court. Anthony Simons wins the starting job. We'll see end of the preseason. We'll find that one out. Josh Minot has a poster. Look out for the big dunk. Joe Missoula gets a preseason tech Crazy Joe Missoula preseason mid season form. RJ Lewis drops 20 shout out to UMass. Who has, who dares to have the Amari Williams overreaction? It's coming, it's out there. Who's gonna do it? We need it for the bingo board. Number 15 JB streams a film session or films Celtics related content. We'll say directly Celtics related content, practice, courtside, whatever it might be. And the last one, anyone besides Peyton Pritchard hits an end of quarter heave. That ladies and gentlemen, is your final preseason bingo board. I like it. I'm into this. I'm excited for this.
Alex Gonzalez
Yeah, the more I think about the JB1, the more I think he actually could stream courtside preseason game like say like the last.
Will
If it's ever going to happen, it's going to be preseason because they're, they're more willing to do. And also there's, you know, this is a brand new year where it's Amazon NBC. Like we don't necessarily know what they're going to be. I think I saw the other day that I can't remember if it was NBC or Amazon that they're going to try to have some of their reporters like actually streaming or like sitting in the timeouts with the team so they can report like not just like over here but like be in there. I don't know. We'll see. Or they'll be at the end of the bench that they can get better, better intel. So we'll see. I don't know. Well, it'll be interesting to keep track of that, you know, just to see what's different with Amazon NBC, some of these different productions. But guys, one week away. We've got our bingo card. Alex, I know you're take, you're undertaking this here. We're going to put this out to the, to the audience. We're going to create a community board here. So we're going to find the best way to do this. We're going to compile it, we're going to put it out there to share with everybody. So again, as always, make sure you guys are following us. Green envy pod, Twitter, YouTube, tick tock and what we're going to do throughout the preseason, probably in the next week or two, we'll be back to doing two episodes per week once we have some actual media content to cover some actual basketball. First preseason game, just look this up here, guys, is October 8th against the Grizzlies. So we've got four preseason games. Celtics, Grizzlies on October 8th, Celtics Raptors October 10th, Cav Celtics October 12th, Raptor Celtics October 15th. And then we are steamrolling to 76 or Celtics on October 22nd to kick off the season. So we're swinging into full gear here. And so we're going to be checking back in with this bingo board throughout preseason. Greg, Alex as well. Any final thoughts here before we wrap up this bingo edition of Green with Envy?
Greg Manakis
I'll let Alex go first.
Alex Gonzalez
I like it. I think we could check off most of this list. I think it'll be. It's a pretty fun game to play, especially it makes me want to tune in now to Celtics basketball.
Greg Manakis
I need a reason. I'm just say I needed a reason to watch preseason basketball. So I'm glad that we're doing this one thing I want to just throw out there for you guys. I. I've been doing this with my team at work. One of my co workers who's also a director says that she does this with her team every week and I thought it'd be fun to do it in on the pod. I want to introduce Mediocre Life updates, a little segment where we just talk about, like some very boring basic shit in our lives that we want to update each other on or update the audience on. For example, it could be like, I got a new pair of shoelaces and restrung my shoes. Like, it's just something very boring and mundane that you now are excited that you, like, actually found some sort of fulfillment or excitement about.
Will
This is the funniest podcast pitch of all time. So I got an idea. We're gonna talk about and we're gonna pitch to each other the most boring, mundane Thing that you can think of. It's gonna do huge numbers.
Greg Manakis
But that you were actually. That you were actually somewhat excited about.
Will
Go first. If you guys got something. I gotta. I gotta think about this.
Greg Manakis
I mean, I. I have some stuff.
Alex Gonzalez
Okay, give an example. Then I'll. Then I'll go off that.
Will
Yeah.
Greg Manakis
Okay. So this is kind of a combination of things. So Danielle and I have been doing, like, movie night, like, date nights, where we turn our, like, downstairs into, like, a little theater. We buy theater chocolate and, like, theater snacks and all this. It's also a great excuse just to have, like, leftover candy in your fridge and in your house because you're buying all these snacks that you don't finish as you're watching the movie. But one thing that I was thinking about, this is not necessarily even. I'm already, like, breaking the segment. This isn't really a Mediocre Life update. This is just more something that I found interesting, a fun fact that I learned. Did you know that Caribou gummy bears aren't actually called gummy bears?
Will
What are they called?
Greg Manakis
They're called gold bears.
Will
They're not all gold, though.
Greg Manakis
Yeah, I know, but that's what they're called. They're called gold bears. They're not called gummy bears.
Will
A little bit of Mandela effect, I guess, right? We all just assumed that it was terrible. Gummy bears.
Greg Manakis
And I. I was. I, like, always. I grab them. I always just assume. They say gummy bears, but they say gold bears. But one thing I do want to say. Mediocre Life update. Put your gummy bears in the freezer. Gummy bears in the freezer is the way to go, I think.
Will
First of all, like, just about any candy in the freezer is fantastic. There's exceptions. But, like, 85 of candy in the freezer is an upgrade to the candy. It's. It's generally a fantastic vibe. Again, exceptions, but for the most part, I'm. I'm on board with that. I've not done the gummy bears, though, but that. That intrigues me. So I do like that update. Oh, this is. Okay, maybe. Maybe this is. That's a good sample. Maybe we come back next week and we have. Because I. I got nothing right now. I'm just.
Greg Manakis
Dude, right now, let Alex go. And then.
Will
And then if you got something, Alex, go for it.
Alex Gonzalez
I don't know if this really qualifies, but, like, this is not, like, recent. This was, like, three weeks ago when I was working at csi. They have a. They have a company called Gemini. And they wanted this label printed on, like, you know, like the thing you use to put your luggage in at the airport, like, those bins. So I spent probably around 15 hours putting five stickers on bins like this. Gemini stickers. And that's what I did for three days of work just putting those stickers on bins.
Greg Manakis
Did you?
Alex Gonzalez
No. I mean, it was tedious. It gave me something to do, but it was. I now. I now know what Gemini is. It's a cryptocurrency credit card. So if you're interested in that. There you go.
Greg Manakis
Okay. I like it. I like it. I don't.
Will
That felt like it's true to the. To the sentiment of the segment. That felt very true.
Greg Manakis
Okay, here. Here's my thing. The mediocre. The Mediocre Life update is supposed to be something that's, like, mediocre but brings you excitement. And this doesn't. Doesn't necessarily sound like it brought Alex. Excitement.
Alex Gonzalez
Excitement.
Greg Manakis
Okay, here's. Here's another one. After years of only having one credit card, I finally caved and purchased a JetBlue credit card. So now I have a Jet Blue credit card, and I'm gonna get more airline points. And I'm excited just to use. I'm, like, actually excited to. Well, one, I have to walk to my mailbox, which is like a hundred yards away from my house, so it's close, but far enough where it's inconvenient, and I have to go get that credit card so I can start putting some stuff on there. But I'm really excited to have another credit card.
Will
Shout out to JetBlue. Yeah, gotta get JetBlue to sponsor the. Sponsor the podcast here so we can get some more airline miles. All right, I'm. I'm struggling on this one. Let's just go with. I've. Alex, you and I have been talking a little bit about, like, golf in our. In our. In our chat here. So the other day, I just decided until this has been kind of. My. My ongoing rule with golf is that I'm not ready to fully commit until my body breaks down. And then I'm. I'm still trying to get as much out of my body as I can and trying to take, you know, a day to play basketball and at least one or two days to do cardio and continue to play basketball, which at 36 years old. The end is near. I can see it. It's coming fast, especially with a kid, just, like, being able to, like, you know, maintain the body. It's just It's. We're five months in. It's getting tough, so. And I don't see that slowing down anytime soon. So I. I know the end is near, so I'm holding out. But in the meantime, I can't hit a driver for my life. Can't hit a hybrid for my life. Irons I feel pretty good about, so I decided I'm just gonna go all in. I went, bought three iron, so now I'm teeing off strictly with irons. Going. Going with the three iron here out of the tee box. Went and bought the other day. Test out in the simulator wasn't too bad. Still got some kinks we got to work out, but it felt a lot better than. Than what I do off the tee box with. With my driver. So we're. You know, I know some people feel a certain way about the guy that only tees off with irons. To them, I say off, and I'm gonna enjoy myself out there with my irons. And we're gonna. We're gonna do our best to play bogey golf, and that's what it is.
Greg Manakis
It's a good mediocre life. Update, Will.
Will
There we go.
Alex Gonzalez
All right, I have a Golf one now. I have a golf one, too.
Greg Manakis
Now we're rolling, baby.
Will
Now we're. Now we'. All right, we'll do Alex's one, then we'll get the hell out of here.
Greg Manakis
I got one more. I got one more.
Alex Gonzalez
Okay.
Will
Okay.
Alex Gonzalez
Well, for my birthday, I got this brand new putter for golf, and it's like a huge putter. This thing, it looks. This looks like a square. And it hasn't changed my game at all, but for some reason, it gives me, like an extra sort of confidence. So I guess buying a new putter, also on your point, with a three iron, the three iron is my least favorite club in my bag. I don't think I've used it all summer. Like, I haven't. I have it in my bag. I haven't used it.
Will
Yeah, first time I've ever hit one. I just. I had a five iron, and I've had a couple hybrids, and I don't know what happened. Just. I was hitting hybrids at least. I've never been able to hit driver well, but I was able to hit hybrids well for a while. And then like a couple months ago, I don't know what happened. It. It just. It just escaped me. And now I've got. What was the guy's name? In a major league that can't throw it back to the Pitcher like the catcher when he can't, he is the yips. I went full chuck knobline block. Let's go with that one. I went full chuck knob lock. I just, I, I couldn't get it. Like I was hitting it up to the next. I was hitting from the Blues to the Reds and that was about it. And that's if it wasn't flying out of play. So I was like, all right, I gotta get a little bit more distance, keep this thing in play. Let me get, you know, at least to A. The 7, 8 iron on my next shot. So. Yeah, yeah, that's, it's back to my life update. But Greg, give me, give us yours here and we'll, we'll wrap this up.
Greg Manakis
Okay, quick golf tangent. Have you watched Happy Gilmore too?
Will
No, I've heard it's atrocious and it. The little bit that I've seen looks like I actually, my wife Lorena brought it up to watch it and I was like, we're not wasting our time. We don't have enough time to, to waste on this. On this right now.
Greg Manakis
First 45 minutes, not that bad. Honestly, I thought the first 45 minutes were pretty good. It gets a little crazy.
Will
You're the first person to ever get that. I've heard so far give any type of like even mediocre review of this, of that movie.
Greg Manakis
Watch. Watch Happy Gilmore too, so we can talk about it on the pod. Just like a five minute, just five. It's worth. I think you can get through an hour and a half of watching Happy Gilmore too. You don't have to do it. Let's just, let's move on. I.
Will
You can tell what. I'm not gonna do something.
Greg Manakis
Yeah, I played one on one for the first time in several years on Friday. So I played against Townsend on Friday because you have turned me down for shoot around sessions the last two times I've asked you. And he whooped me. Townsend is, is a tank. So he just like bodied me and pushed me around. So today I went to the gym at lunchtime and I went into, I went into the court after I benched and squatted, did my heavy lifts, got those out of the way. And There was a 16 year old kid, little white kid shooting around play, you know, playing ball by himself. And I was like, you know what? I need a confidence. I'm gonna go challenge this kid to a game of one on one. So I walked up to him and immediately just like spanked him. Eleven nothing. And he wasn't, he wasn't Bad. He was like a scrawny little 16 year old. And then the rest of the time I was just like, you know what, man? I, I want, I just want to work on my defense anyway. Like, let's, let's hoop and then I'll just play defense on you. So the rest of the time I just played defense, but it felt really good. Just go 11 nothing off the jump. Get my confidence back for our men's league game on Thursday.
Will
How many times did he score on you?
Greg Manakis
He was pretty good. He actually, he was actually pretty good. So he, I mean, I don't know, 50 of the time.
Will
Okay. Yeah, still, it's still, still a good ratio, especially after an 11 nothing beating. Yeah, that's, that's, that's like I, I.
Greg Manakis
Was given, you know, I wasn't going like all out on defense. I wanted, I didn't want to like steal his soul, right. So I was kind of giving him some pointers. Went full coach mode and tried to convince him to try out for his varsity team because he said he was, he, he didn't feel confident enough to do it. But he goes to some like magnet charter school here in Austin. It sounds like it was like a nerd school. And I was like, dude, you can make the team.
Will
Give it a shot, man. I think. Give it another shot. I think you might, you might have a chance here. All right, I like it. What are we calling the segment, Greg? What's the, what's the name of this?
Greg Manakis
So shout out to co worker of mine, Anna Street. Shout out to my girl, Anna street for the Mediocre Life Update segment. That's what we're going to call it. Mediocre.
Will
Mediocre Life Updates. All right, that will be something. That will be a new recurring site when we get here. Mediocre Life Updates. And that's gonna do it. That's. Yeah, that's this episode of Green with Envy. We've got our bingo cards again. Lock in on our socials. Alex will be posting that here in the coming days and we'll follow it all the way throughout preseason. And we're gearing up, we're locking in. Hopefully you guys are too. Appreciate all of you for riding with us and for myself, for Greg, for Alex, another episode of Green with Envy. We will catch you guys later. Peace.
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Podcast: Green With Envy: A Boston Celtics Podcast
Host: Will (with Greg Manakis & producer Alex Gonzalez)
Guests & Mentions: Several Celtics media personalities referenced (e.g., Drew Carter, Scal, John Hollinger), and community chat input.
This episode launches the Celtics Preseason Bingo Card, a creative way for the Green With Envy community to track and have fun with upcoming training camp and preseason storylines. Will, Greg, and Alex brainstorm and finalize the 16 bingo "squares" while reflecting on classic Boston sports moments, meta-media narratives, and deep roster cuts. The episode wraps with a light-hearted new segment: "Mediocre Life Updates."
“Are we positive we know what it means? Maybe, maybe not... Stick around.”
—Will, teasing the bingo concept (01:05)
The team crowdsources ideas for 16 bingo "squares," mixing on-court feats, media moments, inside jokes, and Boston-fan clichés. Community chat also contributes during the live stream.
Jordan Walsh “Best Shape Ever” Quote (12:28): Predicting a classic training camp proclamation.
“Jordan Walsh is my pick for this guy’s in the best shape of his life.” —Greg (12:28)
New White Guy Love (“Boston Bump”): Which new, lesser-known white player gets a fan/media surge, with Luca Garza predicted.
“Luca Garza gets the white guy bump.” —Will (15:01)
Anthony Simons Press Conference Finally Occurs
Hugo (Ugo) Gonzalez Hand Size Mentioned (over 1.5 times in a game)
Neemias Queta “Angel Reese” Moment—Grabs 2.5+ Offensive Boards in One Possession
Max Shulga Goes "Full Carson Edwards" (Heat-Check Game)
Drew Carter Makes a Kawhi Leonard Joke in Game 1
Credentialed Media “Celtics Can Win 50 Games” Take
Scal (Brian Scalabrine) Says “Tatum is Ahead of Schedule” without medical evidence
Anthony Simons Wins the Starting Job
Josh Minott Throws Down a Poster Dunk
Joe Mazzulla Gets a Preseason Technical Foul
RJ Lewis Drops 20+ Points in a Preseason Game
Amari Williams Overreaction (compared to Jokic, called “steal of the draft”, etc.)
Jalen Brown Streams a Film Session or IRL Content about Celtics
Anyone Beside Pritchard Hits an End-of-Quarter Heave
(See Recap Section for the final rundown.)
“Do you have someone in mind? That is a very, like, where someone’s gonna say that on media day...”—Will (12:11)
“I’m gonna try and say the phrase 'new white guy love' as much as I possibly can...” – Will (14:53)
"Somebody says Anthony Simons is actually the most talented offensive player on the roster… That report comes out or somebody in training camp says that."
—Greg, on perennial Boston media hyperbole (27:28)
“I like the idea that each week, we can update it… Fans can play along…”
—Will (09:56)
“We're gonna pitch to each other the most boring, mundane thing that you can think of. It's gonna do huge numbers.”
—Will (54:04)
The Final 16 Preseason Bingo Squares:
Will, on the Celtics/fan culture:
"So many parades, Will. So many rings over the years, they all just blend together." (03:32)
Greg, on classic camp tropes:
“Somebody says, ‘This is the best shape I’ve ever been in…’” (12:03)
Alex, on his first weeks with the Capitals:
“Was like 4ft away from Ovechkin. Pretty surreal moment for me…” (08:41)
Will, on building the card:
“If you guys want to join in, we'll put it out—put in the DMs, on Twitter, on Instagram…” (05:48)
Greg, on negative Jalen Brown narratives:
“Do we want to do a negative Jalen thing, or is that…?” (39:40)
Will, on community engagement:
“We’re creating a community board here…” (52:47)
0:00–01:05 – Ads and show intro
01:05–05:48 – Welcome, introducing the bingo concept and hosts riff on Boston sports culture
05:48–13:00 – Defining the parameters for the bingo game, group banter
13:00–49:27 – Building out the bingo board, including live chat ideas
49:27–53:02 – Bingo recap, next steps, preseason schedule preview
53:02–End – “Mediocre Life Updates” segment—mundane but satisfying life wins
“I needed a reason to watch preseason basketball—so I’m glad we’re doing this.”
—Greg Manakis (53:15)
“For myself, for Greg, for Alex—another episode of Green With Envy… See you next time.”
—Will (closing, 63:56)