← Green With Envy: A Boston Celtics Podcast
Green With Envy: A Boston Celtics Podcast
Jaylen's MVP Moment, Hugo's Rise, and our "Naughty or Nice" List
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Greg
This is Mike Gorman and you're listening.
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Will
To Green with Envy with Will and Greg. All right, everybody. Celtics on a three game winning streak heading into the Christmas holiday. What a time of the year it is. Celtics beat the Pacers 103 to 95. We'll talk about that. The three game winning streak, the Ugo momentum, and of course this is our Christmas edition here. So we're gonna have a little naughty or nice 2025 edition. Let's get it going. You guys know the deal. This is Green with Envy. Let's lock in. What up? What up? Welcome into a crispy edition, a holiday edition whatever it is that you celebrate. Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Festivus. Go dig that aluminum pole out. Whatever it is that you're celebrating. We're happy that you are joining us here on a Green with Envy Christmas edition post game pod. It's a mouthful to get out now as always. This is your boy, Will. We're checking in. How you doing? How you living? Joining me as he does each and every time, my best friend, co hosts and the coach of our podcast, the one and only Greg Meneikis. Greg, I. I feel like you got an early Christmas gift. You asked Santa Carter for there to be some MVP chance for Jalen Brown. Get some damn respect on that man's name. A 22 point comeback seems to do the trick. We get some MVP chance late in the game here. That's got to have you feeling good tonight.
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Greg
I really wanted him to make that free throw. And Drew did as well as he heard. He Dang. Like, he knew. He knew that if Jalen had hit that free throw, the MVP chance, we're going to only continue to grow in their resonance around the TD Garden. But it was great. You know, Drew would have liked to have, you know, shouted out the pod, but, you know, whatever.
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Will
I was listening for it, man. I. I'm so. I'm in. I'm in El Paso with my family. My. My side of my family just got here as well. So we were kind of. Everyone's, like, drinking, eating, like, getting. Getting. The holiday mood is setting in right now, so I'm, like, kind of locked in, but also, like, talking to the fam. But I was like, I gotta see right now. I was like, holy, that's MVP chance. So I had to, like, get real close to the TV because the volume's on real low. I was like, I gotta see a little shout out. Didn't. Didn't. Didn't happen. Didn't scow.
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Greg
Feed him up, too. Scowl was like, how'd you know? That was the moment. But, I mean, that was the moment for Jaylen Brown, right? This is. This is a. We're going to talk about Ugo in his last three games, but this was a night for Jaylen Brown in that second half after getting benched along with the rest of the starters, except for Ugo, because Ugo started that second half and he. He was the only member of the starters to stay in when Missoula ended up benching them down 20 in the third quarter. But Jaylen, man, when he turns it on, he goes to a whole nother level now. And at the end of the third quarter, when Mahon blocked him on that fast break. Celtics are down 6 with a chance to go down 4. Jaylen, 3 on 1 fast break, decides to go head to head with Ma, who blocks him at the rim. Mather started talking some, and I was like, all right, I like it. I like it. Because you know what? Jaylen Brown's a better player than Benedict Mather in 10 days out of 10 days out of the week. And, yeah, and Jalen was just awesome in the fourth quarter. The rebounds that he was getting, 31 and 9 from Jalen, and every single rebound he's getting is loud. I always talk about those loud rebounds, and now the numbers are starting to back it up over about, like, 6.2 rebounds on the year. You called him out earlier in the year. When he was just about five rebounds. And since that time, he's been averaging over seven. So Jaylen Brown played like an MVP tonight. Hey, you're an inspiration. We're an inspiration. Jaylen Brown is an inspiration.
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Will
And you know, Greg, something I really love about JB in this game is there's a couple of different times in this game where you could have thought of, I don't want to call it the old jb, but just a previous version of JB where he either is forcing it, he gets sped up, he plays into that Benedict Matheran and plays outside of himself. He's so in control right now this season. It's. It's really putting him on another level. And especially in a game where, you know, he didn't come out lights out, right? Like, there's some games where you're just like, oh, JB's just on and he knows he has it and he's got it. And like, it took a minute to get there. Like this, this was a rock fight at certain points in this game tonight. Like, it was, it was like you mentioned the whole starting five or the whole starting five of the second half got bench. Like, this was not a smooth game whatsoever. And down the stretch in that fourth quarter, there was one moment where, you know, Jalen got in the lane and the patience he showed where obviously I know he tried to slam at home through five different states and it, you know, goes off back iron. But there was a play there where he had kind of the D cell step where he stopped, pivoted. And the way that he controlled that moment, it was Luca esque in my mind, right? The way that Luca just is like, I don't care what you're doing. I don't care if we're up 20, we're down 20. Like, I'm gonna play my way and I'm gonna control my environment. Jaylen had a little bit of that tonight. You know, it wasn't the Most efficient night. 11 to 25. But again, Jalen Brown continues to just be incredibly impressive. The MVP chance, as we noted, well deserved. And this game for the Celtics here, Greg now on a three game win streak. Couple of stumbles against, against Milwaukee, hard fought game against Pistons. Really, that Milwaukee game is the one stumble. And that was, you know, throw that. It's gonna, you're gonna have a Portis and Kuzma night. Insert different random player. That's going to happen. And so for the Celtics to be back on track, you know, you mentioned this to me before we, we signed on Here. Something's in the air, man. Something's in the air with this team. It's feeling very Brad Stevens and Isaiah Thomas was in the building last game, right? It has a little bit of those type of feel to this team where I don't think we're winning the championship. Obviously, the Jason Tatum thing is a whole different thing that's hanging over the season. But this team is a lot of fun. And I'm past the point of, like, I just could see this team in the conference finals and like it. Let's see what happens.
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Greg
I totally can see them in the conference finals. I said to you right before we signed on, they're feeling special. And the, the one guy that is like kind of the, the poster boy for how special this team feels is Ugo. And we talked about early in the season when Ugo got that start, that he was going to be a starter for the rest of the year. Pencil and pencil him in as the starter when Jason Tatum comes back. Peyton Pritchard moved back to your man role, and he's just playing the type of basketball that is going to endear him to Boston for the next 15 years. 19 years old, already plays like a grown man. Has the IQ that all Celtics fans dating back to the, you know, the, the 80s Celtics and everything that everyone talks about the beautiful game of basketball they played. Like, Ugo embodies all that stuff. He's diving on the floor, he's getting big rebounds, he's up from time to time. But it's okay because when he's. He's messing up, he's messing.
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Will
The thing is, no one realizes it quicker than Ugo than when he's up. And it's, it's honestly becoming. One of my little favorite things is when Ugo up the reactions, like I mentioned before, you know, sometimes he'll punch himself in the head. I mentioned the JB slam that he had. And then the clock reset because JB slammed off the back iron and Ugo went to go save it as it almost turned into like a layup for the Pacers. And you could see the relief on his face because he messed up. And. And I think the part of it that's so great that makes it so endearing is you always, to your point, you always want a player to care that much about every little thing, right? Like, it's not realistic for every player to care as much as you do. Sitting there with a bowl of chips on your couch and you go nuts over every little thing. Like, it's just not Realistic for a guy that's in it day to day, actually playing 82 games, playing seven, eight months a year, whatever it is, training for it all the other time. But when you see it, it becomes so incredibly endearing that it's very easy to see why the momentum that Ugo has with not just these momentum plays, but he's putting up. He's putting up numbers in different ways. You know, six points on, six points tonight. 11 rebounds. Last three games, 11 rebounds, 10 rebounds, eight rebounds. Had a double double in Toronto. You know, has had three stocks in every single one of those games. Like, he's hitting every benchmark of this is, you know, Jalen Brown just passed Tommy Hindson. This is a Tommy Award guy. That's what Donald is for this team.
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Greg
Dude, he's so good. He's so good. Everything that he does on the court is additive. And if he ever can hit that corner three at like a 40 level.
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Will
He had one late in the game where I was like, oh, the crowd is about to pop if he hits that. And he missed it. But it's like, that's. And that's. And he's 19 years old. He's, you know, just coming over from Spain. Like, I think that will come. This is, you know, what I thought about the other night with him, actually, Greg, is when we didn't know much about Derrick White, when the Celtics made that trade back in 2022, you know, you and I were like, kind of watching some YouTube videos because living in Austin, the Spurs get blacked out, and they weren't very good. So we weren't watching. Locked into a lot of spurs games. But Derek White came in and the big thing was like, yeah, is he going to be that good of a shooter? It's like a 33, 34 shooter. And if you remember that first game, Derek White came, I think he hit his first three threes or like three out of four. And I remember you and I podcast, like, later that day, and we were like, you know, I thought it would be a good shooter. That shot doesn't look bad. The shots there, it looks good. I kind of feel the same way about Ugo, where I'm like, it's not like a. It doesn't look like Josh. Josh Mina, who is shooting the ball well this season. Like, that shot looks grotesque. And if he's missing, you're like, yeah, that makes sense. With Ugo, it's like, I like, I see the bones of it. Like, I like, I don't think that this is going to be an unreasonable expectation that with the time, the training, the, you know, everything that can be put into it, that he can become a serviceable, be, be a guy that' knocking down those shots late and, and have that happen, honestly, relatively quickly. Maybe not this year, but in the next couple of years. Like there's no reason why he doesn't turn into that guy from what I can see.
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Greg
And he clearly has like a crazy work ethic, right? The ability to go from really not playing at all to playing 37 minutes tonight and never looking tired. Like he has those 19 year old legs. But even those young guys, sometimes their cardio can't hold up in like a 48 minute NBA game where you can only see them go for like those, those quick little spurts. But 37 minutes out of him, man, and I was actually interested because I was like, you know what? I didn't, I don't know how many points Ugo scored tonight and when you called it out that he only had six, I was like, that's, that's why Ugo's great is because you could have told me he had 15 or six and I would have been like, I don't care. Like, ugo's awesome.
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Will
Everything. 26 points. This is Ugo's moment right now. These last three games, he's got 26 points total. Like, right. Like when you think of it being a moment, almost always it comes to points, right? Like you think of, man, he must have blown up for 30 tonight. And all of a sudden you're like, this guy's on another level. It's like, no, he's got, you know, 30 something rebounds in the last three games. He's got nine stocks, he's got. Everything else that you want to have happen is, is what Ugo's doing and he's changing games. I think that's probably the biggest thing I take away from Joe.
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Greg
Can't take him off the court, man.
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Will
Which, which is funny because like to a degree we felt like that even before when we like wasn't playing. We were like, Joe, like I, I get it, like mine not being good. Jordan Walsh has been great. Like find some time for Ugo because every time he plays it feels like he changes the game. He impacts it in some meaningful way. That's not always going to be, you know, in the, in the box score, but if you have two eyes and you're watching the game, you're going to leave going, I don't know. But that number 28, it was something different about him.
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Greg
Yeah, he's great, man. Another guy that I think deserves a shout out is Luca Garza, who was banished to the. The land of the small ball bench. And over the last couple of games, you know, nine offensive rebounds in the previous game, he had another five tonight, nine total, last two combined 24 minutes. Another guy that, the moment he got his chance again, he was like, you're not taking me off this court. He's like, you had me on the bench for three weeks, which I was okay with because I, I thought that, you know, there's. There's moments for Luca Garza, and I think there are certain teams that he can't play against. But in games where we're playing average teams like Luca Garza can impact the game just with this hustle, right?
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Will
That's the other big part of this, right? Being down someone in that wing rotation. So Joe doesn't quite have the bodies to be able to play just one big. But to your point, Luca needs credit because he stepped up in both of these games to be able to contribute in meaningful ways. And there's, you know, he had five offensive rebounds tonight, had nine in the game against.
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Greg
And he had like three more possessions where he got fouled going after offense.
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Will
Right. That was what I was going to bring up is there's other possessions that he extended or he's not getting the. The tick on the. The box score of here's an offensive rebound. But he either got fouled or he kept it alive. And someone else gets that stat, right? Like, he's extremely feisty. No one runs harder back on defense than Luca Garza or exerts more energy.
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Greg
There's this one moment. There's this one moment in the first half where Luca Garza and Josh Minot were running like, side by side getting back on defense. And the effort that each one of them was, was expending to run the same speed was absolutely hilarious. I don't know if you. If you caught that moment, but Josh Minor was just like gliding up the court running probably 75. And Luca guards is just like full speed, booking it. Obviously, Josh surpassed him pretty quickly.
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Will
Do you think so if it. Let's just say hypothetically, it takes Josh Minot like eight leaps to get up the court. What does it take, Luca, like 16?
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Greg
He does. He does have long strides, but he's not really like, covering.
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Will
But they don't go very far. It's a little bit. Remember. Remember how I used to run a lot or how I just. I probably still do run where it's like, it's good form, but it's just like really like the strides aren't long enough. He's got long strides, but they're not, I don't know, they're not extended well.
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Greg
Yeah, he doesn't like bounce off of this guy. The strides are long, but he's not actually like moving much farther with any momentum.
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Will
He's sinking to cement and then he's got to propel himself out of it, but.
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Greg
Exactly. But he deserves all the credit in the world, man. I was going to be totally fine if he never saw another minute this year unless like Nene was hurt. But he proved that he, he belongs on the court in, in certain matchups. And I think these last two games where we're not going up against any like world beating big. Like, yeah, throw Luca Garza out there on the court, man. Let him do his thing.
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Will
Yeah, shout out to Luca Garza, man. He definitely deserves it. And so Greg, in this three game winning streak, you know, obviously Ugo's having a moment. Luka's been great the last two games. It really feels like I don't want to get back into. Just before we go to. We're gonna do a little bit of a holiday edition here on the podcast. We'll do a naughty and a nice list here in just a few. But before we do that, I want to just dig in a little bit more and like, like what, what, what do you feel special about this? Like, what is it that's like sticking out to you when you watch these games? Because tonight, you know, I mentioned I was watching it with some family and cells got, you know, Pacers didn't miss a three point shot. It felt like in the, in the first quarter and it was like, ah, maybe it's just one of those nights. But at also kind of felt like we're gonna come back and win this game. Like, I don't, I don't, I don't believe the Pacers are putting us away. Like, and that's a belief that I did not think that I was gonna have about this team this year. And now it kind of feels like, you know, every game it's like, why would I not have that feeling? So let's just dig in just for a minute here. What is it about this team that's jumping out to you as feeling, feeling special like we talked about?
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Greg
I think you called it out, saying it reminds us of the Brad Stevens era where you had a bunch of guys, chips on their shoulder that overachieved in a system that worked for Them and under a coach who believed in them. And I think this goes back to Missoula and what Drew was talking about on the. On the last pod, where he just. It's his first chance to really imprint who he is and the DNA within him on a group of guys. Because he inherited the last team. This is the first team where he has a bunch of young guys that he can really coach up and give them the opportunity to, like, be extensions of his philosophies out there on the court. Because there's, you know, previous years, you're not really doing that with a Kristaps Porzingis. You're not changing the way Drew Holiday plays. He's a consummate professional. He's going to play the way that he plays. Same thing with Al Horford, Jason Tatum, like, superstar of all superstars. And now you have a bunch of guys that are trying to prove themselves, just like Joe Missoula is out here trying to prove himself.
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Will
And.
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Greg
And I think a lot of it has to do with, like, the egoless nature of this team. And I think, case in point, look at that third quarter when the Celtics are down 20 points and Missoula just yanks the starters. He's like, jaylen Brown, sit on the bench. Derrick White, I don't care. Sit on the bench. Payton Pritchard, Kata, sit on the bench. And every single one of those dudes, I don't know if you. If you were able to, like, be super locked into that comeback, but anytime they cut to the bench, those dudes weren't over there sulking. They were there cheering on their teammates. Jalen Brown's up there like, rah rah of all the rah rah guys. And those are the moments that I think make a team like this feel special, where you can bring in a Baylor Shireman. And now when Baylor Sharman gets on the court, I'm like, I'm happy Baylor's on the court. I was kind of sad he came off the court because he's just additive and everything that he does. Anthony Simons having a couple moments there on offense, hitting a couple big shots where you're like, okay, Simons, like, I see you. Luca Garza doing his thing. Sam Houser, maybe. Maybe. It was like the one guy tonight where I was like, yeah, I don't think I need much more of Sam out there on the court. But I was just, like, so happy to see the way that those guys responded. And then when they came off the court and the starters came back on the court, they Were clearly inspired by what the bench did where in previous years when you took out the starters and you put it in the bench unit, it was like, oh, we got a 30 point lead and now the bench is going to blow it.
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Will
Yeah, I think buy in, right? The overall buy in to this is. Is what. Is what it's coming down to. And you know, I gotta say for Anthony Simons, I was thinking about this even before the game. You know, I'm still underwhelmed by Anthony Simons is what it is. But he's been a plus minus, darling these last like couple of games. Like there's, you know, say what you will about plus minus, it's not always the best stat to look at, but consistently enough if you're constantly a plus, like that's enough of a samples as it becomes more of a trend. Right. And so, you know, only a plus four tonight. But again, I think. And this again goes to. To Joe here. I think he's playing with better lineups. Think he's getting, you're getting more out of Anthony Simons even if it's in, you know, not huge minute samples like what he played tonight. He played seven. He. Yeah, just over 17 minutes tonight. But I think the usage of Simons has gotten a lot better by Joe. And so nights when it makes sense, he's playing 25, 30 minutes. Some nights he's playing 17. And the moments that he's in that he's in the game like Joe is. Joe's doing his thing, man. You know, I'm gonna talk about Joe when we get to our nice and naughty list here. But there's no doubt about it. Joe is absolutely having a moment and I think we're too early to maybe do coach of the year type stuff. And you know, if the, The Thunder win 80 games, which is not even 80 games now, but you know, they win 75 games, like Mark Dagnall's probably gonna win coach of the year, but Joe Missoula's got to get a lot of love I think when it comes to that conversation, if this continues, because this is pretty special what I think he's doing. And like I said, I'll talk more about it when we get to nice and naughty. But yeah, it's, it's very impressive. And again, the roster, Shireman Missoula was here for that pick. Gonzalez, he was here for that pick. Walsh, he was here for that. These are guys now that you're starting to see that Joe Missoula identity, I'm a high note hitting Songbird, but I'm also a bird watching backpacker.
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Greg
Have you ever actually said the words naughty or nice before? Because you keep.
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Will
You keep.
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Greg
You keep messing up the. The order of it. It's like naughty or nice. That. That's the gimmick, Will. Naughty or nice.
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Will
I'll be honest, as I'm saying it.
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Greg
I don't keep saying the nice and naughty list.
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Will
I, I.
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Greg
Connotation.
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Will
Yeah, no, I. You're right. You're right. You're totally right. Because when, as I was saying it, I was like, this doesn't feel like me. Like, like, it feels. It doesn't feel right. So it's okay. So the. The correct way for the holiday theme is the naughty or nice list.
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Greg
Naughty or nice? Yeah, so, like, in my mind, the whole thing was like, are they naughty.
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Will
Or nice or not? He's a little kinky.
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Greg
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice and naughty. Skanky.
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Will
Okay. Okay.
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Greg
Well, who knows, you know?
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Will
Hey, you know, I'm. I'm in. I'm in. I'm going for it, man. We're going for it here. Nice and naughty. Naughty or. Yeah, nice and naughty. I hear it now. I hear it now. It's naughty or nice. All right, so on that note, let's jump in to naughty or nice, our 2025 Christmas gimmick here on Green with Envy. So for the audience at home, for those of you tuned into us here on YouTube and or Twitter, what we did was we pitched, picked three different. I mean, honestly, it could be people, could be items. I Don't really know where we went with this. We kind of left it open ended here. But we've got three naughty. Three Nice. Greg, how do you want to do this? You want to go nice and then not. You want to go back and forth or what's. What's the best way? How do you want to. How do you want to lay this out? We probably should have discussed this before, but this is what we do. We do it on there.
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Greg
That's not how we do it, man. That's not how we do it. Okay, I'll go first. So this is on my nice list and it's more of an overall topic and trend that I'm going to bring back to the Celtics here in a second. Turning injury prone players into six men. The spurs are currently doing it with Wemby coming off the bench. The Pelicans are currently doing it with Zion Williamson coming off the bench. Both organizations and the players are on the nice list. Because with these stars as massive and as talented as Zion and Wemby are, you would expect that guys like that, that wouldn't be okay coming off the bench, right? It's not easy to humble yourself, come off the bench, but if it means you get more consistent time and you're going to be there for closer to 80, 82 games, 65 games, if that's the limit you need to reach, like, I'm all for that. And when you think about the Boston Celtics, who have a megastar sitting there on the bench, who's going to come back to a team that has, is forming an identity and is developing this chemistry, what is the best way to bring Jason Tatum back? And I'm saying it right now, I think the Celtics should at least consider bringing Jason Tatum off the bench as the sixth man whenever he is healthy. Because there is precedent. Now, Jason Tatum, if he was the first one to do it, I don't think he's that type of guy. I think he's the type of guy that's going to be like, nah, I'm always a starter. I will always be a star. Don't put me back on team usa. I'm good. Like, I'm gonna be the starter of this team, right?
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Will
I've been. I've seen this script before. I don't want to do it again.
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Greg
Ye. When you see Wemby do it and you see Zion do it, obviously Jason Tam is a better player than Zion, but Wemby is this fucking freak of nature. Alien.
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Will
Yeah.
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Greg
And it's like, that's the type of sacrifice. When you think about the sacrifice that the guys on the team are making this year, if Jason Tatum came back and said, you know what, I'm gonna come off the bench because you guys are already rolling right now, and I don't want to mess up the chemistry, but I also think it's just smart to bring him off the bench because you don't want to run him out there and put too much pressure on him. The only downside, I think would be like, if Jason Tatum just kind of needs to be in his routine and be warm going into the games versus having to like, adjust to his body coming off the bench, never having really done it before.
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Will
Yeah, it's an interesting point. And you know, I, I've. I've seen a couple of the spurs games, obviously in the NBA cup with Wemby coming off, and then their first couple games since the NBA cup, he's done the same thing. I haven't seen how the Pelicans have utilized Zion coming off the bench. So I'm going focus. My comparison to what the spurs have done and what I think they've done is really interesting because, you know, when you think of usually guys come back, it's like, oh, he's on like a 20 minute time limit, right? And so usually it's like, ah, there's six minutes left in the fourth, it's close game. Are they gonna stretch him? What are they gonna do? And it gets into this, like, really precarious position. And the way the spurs did it, I thought was awesome, right? Where it was like Wemby was, I think in the first game against Oklahoma, he didn't even play the first quarter. I don't know if the Celtics would do that, but maybe Tatum plays three minutes in the first quarter, plays five minutes in the second, second quarter, plays eight, plays ten. You know, whatever it is that it gets up to that time limit and then it keeps him fresh and available to your point, and keeps him ready for the, for the part of the game that as he's ramping up, even a ramping up Jason Tatum, let's be real, we just praised this entire roster. Or ramping up, Jason Tatum will be out on the court like. Or should be out on the court. Right? Like, there's no doubt about that. So I think from that perspective, using the Wemby example is really interesting. And like, obviously Wemby's younger than Tatum, but he's certainly been in the same position as Tatum where they've been a one since day one. Right. Like, they've been the guy the entire time. Neither of, like, Wemby, I bet you, has never come off the bench in his entire life until. Until the other night against Oklahoma City. Like, you know, maybe in a national game, same as Jason Tatum, maybe at some point. But other than that, those guys don't come off the bench. So I think the Wemby example is the one to look at where there is a lot of value in that. And I. I really like that idea, especially where this team, starting five, when you look at their net ratings, has been great, right? Like, that's been, without a doubt, the best lineup. So now if you're just, you know, first off the bench with Tatum over Josh Minot, shout out to Josh, having a great year, pretty good upgrade.
- [28:08]
Greg
And you surround Jason Tatum with, like, the shooting lineup when you have Anthony Simons flanking him. If Simons makes it to the end of the year on this team, which I. I'm on record saying I want to see him play next to Tatum. If you're coming off the bench with Jason Tatum and Anthony Simons as, like, the. This the head of your bench unit, like, that'd be pretty. That'd be pretty interesting for the. The stretch run. Some other guys, though. Go ahead, Go ahead.
- [28:31]
Will
And you think about the. The Tatum stats from years past, right? Where it was like, him in the bench units used to have these incredible net ratings. It was him and Pritchard and Cornette and, you know, whoever else it might be. So you just. You're just applying that, but you're doing it as part of the rehab. And so, again, I think it kind of fits to Jason Tatum and what he would need as part of that.
- [28:53]
Greg
Ramp up for sure. Other guys around the league, I also want to see as six men. LeBron James. LeBron, it's time, man. Go to the bench. Go to the bench. Let. Let the other guys cook. You come off the bench, you don't have to, like, worry, is LeBron gonna be in the lineup or not? Like, just bring him off the bench.
- [29:11]
Will
How much of LeBron have you watched this year?
- [29:14]
Greg
I tune into the Lakers from time to time. I'm interested by them.
- [29:17]
Will
Them. It's. Watching him is. Is so fascinating because there's times where he just literally removes himself from plays, and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, he's doing, you know, the way that Jaylen Brown tried to dunk it, you know, through the entire TD Garden. All of a sudden, LeBron will pull off something like that. It's like, dude, I thought you Were pulling a Rasheed Wallace, like I texted you, I think a couple weeks ago, where I was like, he's literally doing the sheed where, you know, from the Celtics in 2012, just going three point line to three point line and like not going above 70, basically. But then he just turns it on all of a. And so it's I, the idea of him as a six man, especially with kind of the odd defensive fit with, with Luca and Reeves, I think that makes a lot of sense. I don't know if he would, that feels like there's, that's unlikely to happen. But I think it's the right idea.
- [30:03]
Greg
The most obvious of all answers. Joel Embiid. Like, they cannot rely on Joel Embiid to, to like just to start a game right at all. So like bring him off the bench because it's Maxi's team at this point. It's Edgecomb's team at this point. And typically when you think about unit coming in, that's like the energy unit. It would be the complete opposite. You bring in Joel Embiid to slow the game down. Yeah, he's back on the bench. Other guys, real quick because I want to keep this moving. Trey Young, I think it might be interesting for Trey Young to, to come off the bench with the hawks. Hawks are 15 and 15 right now, not living up to those preseason expectations. And then Kawhi Leonard, who's like the poster boy for injuries with the Clippers. Clippers, you know, they might as well try it because nothing else has gone well for them.
- [30:48]
Will
All right, let me go to one on my nice list and it's something we've already kind of talked on here, but we bring it up all the time. So on my nice list, I've got the Celtic Young wings and we talked about Ugo earlier. And so Greg, it's that time again. Let's power rank them. We've got Ugo, we've got Walsh, we've got Minot, we've got Shireman. And these rankings are different every single time that I bring this up. So right now, as of today, give me your power rankings with those four.
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Greg
For Ugo, Walsh, Shireman, Minot, you.
- [31:22]
Will
I agree with the first two. I, I, I can't knock Walsh below third. He was, you know, played half the game against Toronto because he was sick, was out tonight with an illness. He's, he's still been really, really solid. Even in the games where he's not blowing you away, he's been very, very solid. Ugo's having his moment so he jumps up to the top of the power range rankings. I think Minot and Shireman's an interesting one. I, I could see it really going either way. I'll go Minot, Shireman. I'm not opposed to it. Minot got the start tonight. They've both kind of had some, some impactful moments. They've been a little bit more fleeting than the other two, which is why they're third and fourth right now. But it's again, we've done this, you know, a couple times. Jokingly. They've been different people every time. This order continues to. Shireman seems to be the one guy that's always kind of third or fourth. I don't think he's ever been in the pole position second. But out of the other three guys, all three of them have been first or second. Anytime that we've done this and so this was a joke, but I actually do think this is going to be a recurring thing that we talk about every two to three weeks because it's gonna keep changing. And shout out to Hugo Gonzalez right now. He's. He's at the top of that pole position. But all of these guys I think are meeting, making contributions. You've mentioned tonight I want to see Baylor. He's going to give me something additive. He's going to make, you know, dude, he had that, you see that hesi he had earlier today. I don't know if it was a.
- [32:39]
Greg
Carry, but he's the replay on that. I don't know if he actually did that legally, but I, I think what it is, what it is is like I keep thinking like, okay, if the Celtics end up needing to make a trade this year, who would I be most devastated to trade? And like Ugo by far is number one. Right. And then I think Walsh is to Shireman in mine it because I think you can find another Josh minute out there.
- [33:02]
Will
Yeah, you could throw Shireman and mine in a deal to make it happen. I, I think Walsh and Ugo are the two that I've watched and I'm like, like, all right, if Walsh is going to d up Tyrese Maxi and Jaren Jackson Jr. And I'm going to feel great about it. There's something there. And then Ugo, like we talked about, it just feels impactful every time he's out there. Minot, you can find the super athletic ey. I still am very suspect. The shooting is all that real just because of the. The shot. And Shireman, you know, he's an older second year player who you Know, he's, he's definitely.
- [33:32]
Greg
He's really impressing me with his defense. That charge that he took tonight, the little strip he had on math when he got beat baseline, like, he's always in the place, moves his feet really well, understands where the help is, and he just, he has a headiness about him. He's like the. Like when we saw Pritchard early on in his career, like his rookie year, where he would just come in the game and do some cool and you'd be like, oh man, I really like this Pritchard kid. Shireman's got a lot of that DNA as well.
- [33:58]
Will
All right, let's go to. So let's just go. Nice. And since. Since I kept messing it up, we were doing nice and naughty versus naughty or nice, we're gonna do it that way anyway. So we did Nice. Nice. Now I'm gonna go to our, to the naughty list here. And it's actually a team that you mentioned already. You talked about Kawhi Leonard. I got the Clippers on my naughty list. Like, be better guys. The Thunder have your pick. Like, this is just can't happen. Like, the Thunder are already too good at drafting, evaluating and finding players. Greg, I saw this the other day. It kind of blew my mind. For the level of a team, a championship team, you know, they're 25 and 3 or whatever their record is right now. They've got one top 10 pick on their entire roster. That's pretty crazy for a team of that level of legacy. It's that one chat pick. Everything else is, you know, is. Is in late first round. It's no, he was like 12. Oh, wow. So I mean, he's the same draft. I mean, it's not far off. Like Shay was, I think shea was also 11 or 12. So like they got a couple guys that are not far off from that. But like you think about these last couple of Celtics teams, you have two, the Jays, who are both the third pick you had, you know, Drew Holiday I think was just outside the top 10 K. A top 10 pick. Al Horford was a top 10 pick. Marcus Smart, when you know Sellers were going to the finals, he was a top 10 pick. Like usually there's like three to four even if they're not your best guys. It's like, man, this guy really turned into an unbelievable plus defender. And it's like Caruso and Dort, guys that were undrafted second round picks. It's the Aaron Wiggins, Isaiah Joe, you know, the list goes on and on. And now for a Team that does pretty damn well at finding talent in the teams in the second round. You're just like. Like clippers just putting it on a silver platter. They're on my naughty list. Just be better guys, like, and it doesn't seem like they have a path really towards doing that other than maybe Kawhi going to be the sixth man. So they're on my naughty list for just, you know, potentially ruining basketball.
- [35:52]
Greg
And then their one trade asset, Zubot, just went down with a grade two ankle sprain. So we'll see. We'll see how long they hold him out for. Okay, my second. My, I guess my first naughty list. I'm gonna go back to something we were talking about earlier and Celtics fans that are still not buying in on Jaylen Brown being the man this year.
- [36:13]
Will
Like, mvp.
- [36:15]
Greg
I was so happy to hear the MVP chants tonight. But there's still, like, you just go check the YouTube comments and, like, check things like that. You, you, you just, like, type in Jalen Brown's name. There's still people that are, like, ragging on him, and Jalen Brown is playing like an mvp. Regardless of how you felt coming into the season season about Jaylen Brown, your two eyes are not lying to you. Jalen Brown is playing like a top five MVP candidate in the NBA this year. It just so happens there are a lot of other guys in the NBA that are playing like, top five MB MVP candidates. So you can, like, make the argument that Jaylen Brown is still, like, more towards 10 than he is towards 5, but I'm not making that argument. I think Jaylen Brown watching him night to night, like, like, with all the injuries that are out there around the league, if you're saying the 65 game limit, it's no question Jaylen Brown's top five. Even without the 65 game limit, Jaylen Brown's in that conversation because the Boston Celtics, my friend, are a top seed in the Eastern Conference. They have home court advantage. If the playoffs were to start today, and Jaylen Brown is the reason. He is the sole reason that the Boston Celtics are the team that they are this year.
- [37:25]
Will
Year.
- [37:26]
Greg
Everybody is buying into what Jaylen Brown is selling on that team, and he's leading by example. Every single person responds to him. And now if you're not responding to him, if you're not gonna be part of the chorus of chance serenading him with MVP chance from this game forward, then I don't know what to say to you, man. We just see the game differently.
- [37:47]
Will
Yeah, it's hard I can't. Like, it's one of those things where I think at times people have been too hard on jb. And I think definitely at times there's been, you know, people. People not saying this has always been you, but you've always been a very adamant JB defender. And there's times where I'm like, okay, you guys can criticize him a little bit. I don't know how you criticize him right now. He's unbelievable. This season. I am blown away. And I do think that there is a, you know, in certain pockets, there's definitely a shifting narrative or an awakening to just how good his season is. I think it's. I think it's. Tim McMahon does the. The straw poll for the MVP and Jalen Brown, you'll came in, I think what would have been either seventh or eighth, if I believe I have it right off the top of my head, basically it was who you would think at the top. This is also a good read into, like, the all NBA like you mentioned, right? Like, if you look at that first team, all NBA. And I think there's three spots that are cemented, right? Jokic, SGA and Luca, as long as they hit 65, and those guys are trending towards it. Those are three. All NBA, first team, all NBA. And then you've got this really interesting battle for the last two first all NBA team spots. Likely Giannis not gonna play enough. Wemby borderline. I would. I would guess he probably falls out of this after already missing, I think 12 games, technically 11 because he gets an extra game with the cup game. But it's still going to be tough to hit that. But maybe. But so throw Wemby in that mix. You throw Kade Cunningham, Jalen Brunson, Tyrese Maxey and Jaylen Brown. Like, that's kind of your group. Throw an Edwards in there, too. Like, that's. That's. Yeah, that's. That's the group of six that's going for those last two spots. And it's not. Not crazy to say that Jaylen Brown is maybe leading that or he's at least near the top of that. Like, all those guys are having great years. And the thing is, we thought. Thought for Jalen Brown, it would be he needs to have a great year. The team success probably hold him back a little bit. He's elevating this team to having a far more successful season than we ever anticipated. So if anything, that should be boosting him in these rankings. And so I was happy to see that his name was very much in the mix for those four or five spots. But you know, he's, he's right there and just Jalen Brown, just unbelievably special season. I don't know what else to say about them.
- [39:55]
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- [41:27]
Greg
Okay, I'm gonna go to my second. Nice. And this is going to be Anthony Edwards, the guy you just mentioned. Seeing him outplay SGA down the stretch of the game the other the other night when he blocked him at the rim and then stripped him on the perimeter limiter and he hit that step back three over KSAM Wallace and such a fun personality. And it just makes me so happy when like guys step up to sga because SGA is really special and he's awesome. He's the second best player in the world right now. But he's not this. He's not Michael Jordan. Right. He's not that.
- [42:00]
Will
He's not unapproachable. He's not unassailable.
- [42:02]
Greg
Exactly. And like too many guys that I think are just as talented as him, him seem to like, wither under the pressure of sga. And I don't know what it is about him. If it's the, like, chill, I'm not going to talk to you. I'm just like, this cool cat walking down, like, walking down the court. Like, you know, it's kind of slithering around the court like a snake. I don't know how many more animals I can compare him to, but, like, everything that he does, I'm just like, bro, somebody body this skinny and just, like, put him on his ass. And to see aunt Edwards push him. Him and pushed him in the. In the fast break situation where SJ was, like, on the court looking, and I'm like, come on, man. And then Ant was just, like, snarling at him like, I'm him. Like, I got this. I'm on that. Like, all the. He was talking to sga. It's like, that's what I'm talking about. And, like, more people need to step up to this.
- [42:54]
Will
Yeah. Aunt definitely, you know, believes he's that dude. And he very well likely is. Like, he's. He's that type of guy that just has that type of. Of Persona. And that felt like a signature moment, right? Like, so when I was listing off those guys, I gotta add in here, because that's felt like a true signature moment. The shot, the stop, everything else that goes, you know, between him and SGA throughout the game, like, those are the moments where you're just like, why would I look around and look up to anybody else but me? Like, what? You know what I mean? Like, I'm. I'm that guy. I'm that dude. I'm him. I'm gonna be the guy. And so for an Edwards, you know, like you said, the personality, it's hard not to like Ant. Like, I feel like I get worried. Worried Ant's personality is gonna. Gonna slip up one of these times. And it's.
- [43:40]
Greg
I mean, he already has slipped up.
- [43:42]
Will
He already. Well, this is the thing. This is the thing. I worry about it. I feel like he has. If he were somebody else. This is a little, like, Draymond gets an extra, like, leash with the referees because it's just who he's always been. Whereas another guy does that. They're teed up, they're thrown out, they're suspended. Like, Draymond gets away with so much. It's just always been, you know, incorrectly authentic at times, and I think people are just like, yeah, that's just him. Because then he drops bars, like, naming Timothy Chalamet white boy of the year and asking about Leon Nelson and he's talking about Liam Neeson, which is one of the greatest clips to ever exist. Like it's in the Tracy Morgan hall of Fame for mix ups. It's, it's, it's just unbelievable. So I think for Ant, you know, I, I just agree with this pick. I got nothing else. Ant's awesome. I think that's a great place to go. Next up, I got here. I'm gonna keep it Celtics centric. And, and this kind of goes to more. Like on Friday night, I saw a lot of this going around. Just on my nice list, I got Celtics owner Bill Chisholm, like shout out to him. He seems like he gives a. He seems off. Like he. I don't. I heard a little bit of him on the White Noise podcast. Just a few clips and like, just seems like, like a cool dude. Just seems like a very down to earth dude. And so far we haven't got that new owner syndrome that typically you see like all the moves in the off season that was happening whether or not this team was sold, like, especially when they lost in the second round, Tatum gets hurt. All that was, was happening. So that's not like, hey, new guy came in, let's cut the. And you know, you heard Brad Stevens, which is clearly going to be, you know, in coordination with Pilch as I'm talking earlier this week. Like, if there's an opportunity to spend and we think it makes sense, we'll spend. Like, we don't. We're under the second April. We can, we can still spend if we need to and if we think it makes sense. And so I just enjoy seeing an owner that doesn't feel like he's overbearing. So far, this is all. So far, it's been less than a year with this guy, but doesn't feel overbearing and feels like he just enjoys him and his family go into the garden. I think Steve Carell was sitting with him the other night. Like, he just seems to really enjoy this experience and kind of like how we talked about Ugo earlier and when you're sitting at home and you're like, man, I love that this guy gives a every moment. That's kind of how I feel. Like if I had billions of dollars and I could go buy my favorite team, like, I would do what he's doing and just be like, yeah, I want to sit courtside every night and cheer my ass off and bring my family and hang out with all cool people. That sounds freaking awesome. So, so far I just. I'm enjoying the Chisholm experience.
- [46:09]
Greg
Here's what I have written down. Bill Chisholm, you're on the nice list for bringing back Isaiah Thomas, sitting next to him courtside and being an awesome owner thus far. You seem like you're really enjoying it and you're bringing a really fun energy to the game. Basically the exact same thing. Okay, last thing, because I know, I know you're with family right now. We should wrap this up. Anyway, let's go to the naughty list. On my naughty list, and this is actually something I really enjoyed. I don't know if you caught this, Will, but Anthony Joshua, you're on my naughty list for what you did to Jake Paul's jaw. And it was, oh, so glorious. Fractured it in two places to the point where Jake Paul might never fight again. Which, you know, I kind of like seeing him get punched in the face. So I don't know if I'd like that.
- [46:57]
Will
I feel like this deserves a round of applause. I don't know why this is on the naughty list.
- [47:00]
Greg
Well, he's on the naughty list because it was just like so bad, like, what he did, you know, he like, like, literally, a former Olympic champion, heavyweight champion of the world was like, yeah, I'll take $50 million to punch this poser in the face. Are you kidding me? Oh, yeah. They each got like 50.
- [47:17]
Will
50 mil for this?
- [47:18]
Greg
Yes. Dude. It was supposed to be against Tank Davis and like, shout out to Jake Paul, honestly, because Tank Davis is like 135 pounds. He pulled out of the fight. And then Jake Paul was like, I'll fight Francis. And guy who's the UFC former heavyweight champion in the world who almost beat Tyson Fury, and Francis Ganu is like, nah. And then Anthony Joshua is like, wait, wait, how much you paying? Okay, yeah, I'll do that.
- [47:41]
Will
Like, how many was that? Five? Zero? You're saying this correctly, right?
- [47:46]
Greg
50 million. Okay. Yeah, yeah. And then, like, all these people were convincing themselves that Jake Paul actually had a chance, and he just ran away from Anthony Joshua the whole fight, which is like such a awesome, real thing because, like, Jake Paul has been fighting like retired fighters for the past, past decade, and he just ran away from Anthony Joshua, which is exactly what I would have done if I was in the ring with Anthony Joshua. I been like, I don't belong in here. I was gonna run away.
- [48:11]
Will
You know what? It felt like it. And I didn't watch the fight live, but me, my brother in law have been watching some of the clips because we, we I think we must have been together during one of the other Jake Paul fights. And so we were like, talking about how, like, interesting but also, like, shitty the whole Jake Paul experiences at the same time. And it really kind of felt like one of those, like, you're sitting around a bar and like, like, yo, how much would it take for you to last one round with, like, prime Mike Tyson? And, like, what would you do? And it's like, I would just try to get like, you know, like, like grab him by the ankles, like, or something the entire time. Like, I just would try to either run around the. The ring and like, not let him catch me, or I would, you know, curl up in a ball. Like, that's essentially what it looked like. And I've watched that video where it's like, I think it's. I think it's 13 times that he, like, just goes down to his knees and just hugs Anthony Joshua. Like, it's.
- [49:01]
Greg
It's.
- [49:02]
Will
It's extremely pathetic looking. Even though it is. It is in a vacuum. Brave to step in the ring with Anthony Joshua.
- [49:09]
Greg
Dude, he took a full force straight right to the jaw and didn't cry. If Anthony Joshua hit me that hard, I would have sat there sobbing like a little girl.
- [49:20]
Will
Jake would be fatherless.
- [49:22]
Greg
He would be. And Jake Paul didn't get knocked out. Like, that's really impressive, man. He's got a chin on him. Well, I mean, now he's got a broken jaw.
- [49:29]
Will
Used.
- [49:30]
Greg
Yeah, that's like, really impressive. As much as I haven't enjoyed, like, Jake Paul the character, I gotta give him respect for stepping in there with Anthony Anthony Joshua after supposed to fight Tank Davis. It's just such a difference. He did it. He still put on the show. The show must go on. But Anthony Joshua, you're on the naughty list for what you did to Jake Paul's job.
- [49:50]
Will
And so Jake got 50 mil for it too. They. They split 100 mil. Is that. What. Is that? What?
- [49:53]
Greg
Yeah, I think it was something like 46. I think it was over, like. 40.
- [49:56]
Will
46. Semantics. I'll take 46. God damn, dude. I. Yeah, all right. That is what it is. I can't believe those two guys got 100 mil for that sham. Anyways. Okay, I'll go to my last one that I have here on the naughty list. I'm actually gonna call myself up, put myself on the naughty list here, Grant.
- [50:16]
Greg
Okay.
- [50:17]
Will
Because I'm gonna give you something that I. I don't think I've vocalized it, but I'm gonna let people in here too. You know what I've been waiting for happening and I'm done waiting for it to happen. Something's going to happen. I thought this was going to be. And I probably hinted at this in ways without saying it directly. I was prepared for this to be an epic failure. But Joe Missoula season completely prepared for Joe Missoula to have this level of a roster, these types of players. And somehow the Celtics are third in that race offensively. They are passing all levels of expectation. And listen, I still don't, I'm still striving to understand Joe Missoula and I think, I think scholars for years, you know, in years and years beyond this will try to study Joe Missoula and no one will fully understand this man. You know, the man's trying to buy a wolf for the house. That was a hilarious. Trying to convince his wife. Yeah, we have dogs. But like the wolf dude and was like, yeah, but his ex was position was a wolf just to roam the perimeter. He's like, I don't wanna, I don't want to like, like take care of it or they just roam the perimeter. Fine food. This was the whole point. But. And I don't understand a lot. I don't understand always Joe Missoula's moves like you mentioned tonight, I think the, you know, the, the benching of. In the third quarter, perfect Joe Missoula move that he feels empowered to be able to do that. And these are moves that you just don't see a lot of coaches make or make successfully. Right. And he's doing a lot of different lineups going, no bigs going, you know, with lineups that sometimes. He went with a double big the other night out of nowhere. We haven't seen a double big in, in months and all of a sudden we just have a double big.
- [51:52]
Greg
It's hilarious.
- [51:53]
Will
Yeah, yeah, it was pretty bad. But to his, to his credit, he changed it right away, saw the error and changed his ways. I asked for Anthony Simons, who I've been really struggling with, like how he's using him. He's using him with a lot better lineups over the last couple of weeks. And now he's a plus minus darling. Even if not much has changed about Anthony Simons women's game. Joe Missoula has changed the way he's utilized him. And so even if I'm still trying to understand every little Joe Missoula moment, there's no doubt about it. It's just working, man. It's just working. And so shame on Me for just being waiting. I've been waiting all season for Joe Missoula to fail. Not that I wanted it. I just was, you know, that's what I thought was gonna happen. And it's just not happening. So I've been naughty. Shame on me. For 2025, 2026, six Joe Missoula. Let's rock my guy.
- [52:42]
Greg
I love it. I love the self awareness. I'm trying to think if there's anything I've been naughty about.
- [52:49]
Will
Too much sweets.
- [52:51]
Greg
Definitely too much sweets. Way too much sweets. Yeah. Every year from, from New Year's Day to my birthday, February 23rd, I don't drink alcohol. And at this point, I don't drink alcohol like, much anyways. I'm like, I should. That's probably too easy. Let's see if I could give up sweets. Like late night snacks. Yeah, sweets. I don't think I could do it. I honestly don't think. I know.
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Will
What's funny is I, I always thought that, like, oh, people with sweet tooth is like kind of a myth. I thought that for a while. And like, over the last couple of years, I'm like, man, this is a real fucking thing. Like every night, even when I'm full, I'm just like, I could really use like a little piece of candy. And like, I end up like, going to like, like, I know there's nothing in my fridge or nothing in, like, my pantry as soon as I just get up and I'm like, I was like, maybe there's something I forgot about, you know? And it's like, I really thought for a long time, I'm just like, no, people just make that. That's just something adults say. But, like, it's not a real thing. It's a real thing, man. It's a real thing that I, that I was not prepared for. And now it's just a part of my life that I want. Sweets. Even when I'm full.
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Greg
I love it. And I want to bring this up right now because I don't want to forget on the last, like, mediocre life update, you, I had asked, like, do you want. I, I, I gave you a choice of which update to give you, but I did want to tell you and apologies if I already said this, because this happens a lot where I think I say something, I don't say it, or I, I want to say something, I don't say it. You know how when you were a kid, I don't know if you remember this, Will, you had a toothbrush. His name was Brushy Brushy.
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Will
Yeah, of course.
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Greg
Okay. Of course you remember.
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Will
I'm your friend. Brushy Brushy. I keep your tea shiny and bright. Please brush with me every day, day, morning, noon, and night.
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Greg
Okay. Brushy Brush has been discontinued. He doesn't exist anymore. You can get him on ebay, but, like, he's. They don't.
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Will
To be clear, the one at my house is the only one I've ever seen in person. I thought it was just like my. My mom was a dental hygienist, so I assumed it was like, now that I'm older, I'm like, it must have been like. Like a, you know, like a dental salesperson came by and was like, yeah, here's a couple free samples and never actually took off or something.
- [54:57]
Greg
Right? It's. It's tough to find. But James did not like getting his. His. His teeth brushed, and I decided, you know what? I'm going to bring back. Bring back Brushy Brushy. So every time I brush James's teeth now, I sing him the Brushy Brushy song, and he loves it. And now he allows me to brush his teeth. So Brushy Brushy. The legacy of Brushy Brushy lives on.
- [55:20]
Will
Man, that's awesome. And now when. When Mariana starts getting teeth, that's. I clearly have to at least try this with her to see. See if we can keep this on so that one day when Mariana and James have a podcast and they're like, yo. So I don't know if you're. If, If. If Uncle. If Uncle Will or Uncle Greg ever did this, but they ever sing this weird song to you, Brushy. You know about Brushy Brushy. And that's gonna be a genius moment.
- [55:45]
Greg
I really.
- [55:45]
Will
How dumb we are.
- [55:47]
Greg
Should we sell all of our assets and try and bring back Brushy Brushy and manufacture through it again?
- [55:54]
Will
Can we become. Now that you're a sales guy as well? Should we just become national Brushy Brushy salesman and we'll just go from dental office to dental office with our prototype until we. Until we make it big or we end up on Shark Tank, maybe get a couple of sales, end up on Shark Tank cubes. Get involved with us like cubes. Come on, man. We'll. We'll host a podcast. We'll talk about brushing teeth. We've. We've got the clientele. No.
- [56:15]
Greg
Sounds pretty good, man. Sounds pretty good. But I just want to share that with you because I thought you enjoyed. Enjoy it.
- [56:20]
Will
Well, that's awesome, man. That makes me really happy to hear that that legacy will Continue to live on as we sign off here, Greg. Any, any, any holiday thoughts. And this will probably be just for the folks at home. This will probably, this will definitely be our last podcast before Christmas, potentially our last podcast of the year, just with some travel, so we'll have to see how that works out. But anything here, Greg, as we, as we sign off for the holidays that you either want to want to share or want to say to our audience.
- [56:51]
Greg
Thanks again for all the support that you guys continue to show us year after year. Shout out to our guy, Adam Taylor, former host of the podcast, who's moved on to other things in his life, now writing for Ness, and gave us a shout on one of his last articles. Shout out to you, my guy, Adam. I hope your family's doing well. Merry Christmas to everybody out there. Happy holidays and we appreciate everybody.
- [57:14]
Will
Yeah. And if you don't hear from us, you know, go enjoy that time with your family. It's, it's really funny. Like, you know, my family's here now and they're like, oh, you're gonna go do a podcast now. They're like borderline. Some are excited, some are confused and it's just a really fun energy to be able when I walk out and they're like, you have a Santa Claus hat on. Like, yeah, I didn't, I didn't tell you guys I was wearing this, but I've been, I've been sitting in my brother in law's room for the last hour just spewing nonsense, wearing a Santa hat for whatever reason. So if that's not what the holidays is all about, what is it guys? What is it really all about? So if you don't hear from us again, to reiterate what Greg said, appreciate everybody that's tuned in that subscribes that comments. Even if you don't like our and you comment, that still actually means a lot to us. So please keep doing it. It helps the algorithm. And so we want you guys to continue to interact with us and we want to keep being able to produce this content. And it's really special that anybody, even if it's one or two people, give a about what we have to say. Makes us feel great and it makes us want everybody that we interact with, with, you know, online, wherever it might be, to have a great holiday season. Enjoy the time with your family and we will definitely be checking back in with you guys and hopefully we'll keep this magical feeling going. Baby. Something special is in the air and we're gonna keep riding it out. Until it doesn't feel special anymore. So have a Merry Christmas, have a Happy Holidays, all of the above. Enjoy it with your friends and family. That's gonna do it for this episode of Green With Envy. We will catch you guys later. It don't take much no more.
- [58:44]
Greg
Until.
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Will
I hit the floor? Every time I hit this high it's you I find it don't take much no more Until I'm at your dark.
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