Something or Nothing: Are the Celtics Actually a Top 10 Team in the NBA?

Summary

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Green With Envy: "Something or Nothing: Are the Celtics Actually a Top 10 Team in the NBA?"

Podcast: Green With Envy: A Boston Celtics Podcast (Blue Wire)
Date: November 13, 2025
Hosts: Will and Greg
Guests Referenced: None featured, but guest names mentioned in intro
Episode Theme:
Will and Greg play “Something or Nothing”, using this early season to sift through surprising stats and trends, and debate whether they matter for the Celtics’ search for Banner 19. Along the way, they dig into the team’s identity, player confidence, emerging talents (especially Jordan Walsh), and take a look around the league with some spicy Thunder/Wemby talk.

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Episode Overview

The episode revolves around the hosts’ new segment “Something or Nothing,” in which they pick out notable stats, narrative trends, and moments from both the Celtics and the wider NBA, debating whether each point is a significant development (“something”) or simply early-season noise (“nothing”). The show moves between big-picture analysis and playful banter, providing substantial Celtics content with comparisons across the league.

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1. Show Opener & Chemistry Check

• [02:02] Greg’s Anxieties About High School Reputation
  • The hosts begin with a humorous aside, clearing up some friendly anxiety about how Greg is perceived (“the man” in high school or not) after a mutual friend joked about it.
  • They use this as a light-hearted lead-in to the episode’s theme: figuring out which stories and worries are “something” and which are “nothing.”
  • Notable Quote:
    • “So in the spirit of our episode today, I’d say ultimately that was nothing. It was something in your head. And ultimately, it’s a nothing.” — Will [06:38]

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2. Explaining the "Something or Nothing" Premise

• [07:58]
  • With three days off in the Celtics schedule and a string of recent blowouts, the hosts create a more evergreen episode format, promising “stats and statements” that they’ll debate.

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3. Key Celtics Discussion Points

A. Jordan Walsh as the New Avery Bradley?

• [09:23–12:16] "Jordan Walsh is the new Avery Bradley: Something or Nothing?"
  • Will presents eye-popping defensive stats from Walsh over the last three games:
    • Locked up high-profile assignments (Franz Wagner, Paolo Banchero, Tyrese Maxey, Jaren Jackson Jr.)
  • Greg compares him to Iggy (Andre Iguodala), then warms to the Avery Bradley comp.
  • They discuss the internal competition between Walsh, Ugo Gonzalez, and Josh Minot – a motivating factor for the young wings.
  • Both agree this is “something” — Walsh’s all-around defense at multiple positions is not a mirage.
  • Notable Quote:
    • “Jordan Walsh is the new Avery Bradley... Like, a 6’6 Avery Bradley is one hell of a player, man… He just looks great, man.” — Greg [10:01]
    • “For him to jump out to somebody just tuning into the end of a game kind of randomly... that also tells me something.” — Will [14:17]

B. Peyton Pritchard’s Haircut and Confidence

• [15:39–18:23] "Is Peyton Pritchard's confidence tied to his high bald fade?"
  • Greg jokes about player aesthetics (“better in black shoes”) and proposes Pritchard’s haircut has restored his on-court confidence.
  • Will agrees — the connection between hair and swagger is “something,” as the change coincided with better on-court performance and quicker offensive reads.
  • Discusses Celtics’ need for Pritchard/Derrick White to hit shots amid offensive woes.
  • Notable Quote:
    • “If that’s what it takes for Peyton Pritchard, buzz cut it up, my guy, because I do think he looked way more confident in the last game.” — Will [17:45]

C. Celtics Top 10 in Both Offense & Defense—Deceiving?

• [22:56–27:44] "Celtics are top 10 in offense, defense, and net rating: Something or Nothing?"
  • The Celtics, at 6–7, are surprisingly 9th ORTG, 8th DRTG, 8th Net Rating.
  • Greg says it’s “something” but mainly due to schedule quirks and several blowout wins (inflates net rating), not because the team is actually elite.
  • Will calls it “nothing”—predicts the offense won’t sustain, too much is riding on streaky shooters and young wings.
  • Notable Quote:
    • “I don’t think they’re a top 4 seed…There are elements…they might just be a Jayson Tatum away. And that’s what we have waiting in the wings.” — Greg [24:12]
    • “I think this offensive rating is going to be really hard to maintain…Little bit of early season luck, if you will.” — Will [26:37]

D. Margin of Victory & Clutch Struggles

• [27:44]
  • Celtics’ average win margin: 18.6 points; 4 wins by 20+.
  • But they have a poor clutch record (2–5 in close games).
  • Suggests their strong net rating is skewed by a few blowouts.

E. Jalen Brown’s Rebounding Dip

• [39:01] "Is JB's drop in rebounding something or nothing?"
  • Jalen Brown averaging 5.1 rebounds/game, his worst since 2018–19.
  • Greg says “nothing”—JB’s defensive assignment keeps him away from rebounds; doesn’t blame him given his offensive load.
  • Will says “a little something”—given rebounding is a team weakness and JB has the tools to help more.
  • Notable Quote:
    • “I think it’s always good to challenge your best player to do a little bit more…He would take it personally and he would go do it.” — Greg [41:38]

F. Luka Garza’s Work Ethic

• [42:07]
  • Garza allegedly shot 12,000 more practice shots than any other NBA player last season.
  • Will argues Garza’s motor/effort is something—it’s won him a rotation spot.
  • Greg makes the point that not being able to jump (and focusing on positioning) actually helps Garza’s rebounding fundamentals.

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4. NBA-Wide "Something or Nothing" Segments

A. Thunder’s Historic Start

• [28:05–31:04]
  • Oklahoma City Thunder: 12–1, league-best defense, loaded at every position, thriving without their second-best player (Jalen Williams).
  • Both hosts: Absolutely “something.” The Thunder are terrifying, on pace for back-to-back titles, and “everyone else is playing for second.”
  • Notable Quotes:
    • “The only two answers might be Jokic and Wemby…might be the only two ways…” — Will [31:14]

B. Wemby: Already Top 3 in the NBA?

• [31:33–35:43]
  • Will asks if Victor Wembanyama is top-3 in the league already.
  • Greg: Not yet. Jokic, SGA, Giannis clearly top 3, but Wemby already top 4–5.
  • Will: Agrees, cites Wemby’s unbelievable defense; possibly 4th now, ahead of Luka, with Tatum injured.
  • Notable Quote:
    • “Wemby wants revenge on Steph until Steph retires…It’s always going to be trying to get it back.” — Greg [35:16]

C. Hannah Hidalgo’s 16-Steal Game

• [35:43–37:51]
  • Greg brings some women's college hoops: Notre Dame’s Hannah Hidalgo had 44 points, 16 steals.
  • Hosts dumbfounded by 16 steals; call it “nothing” for NBA relevance, “something” for sheer absurdity.

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5. Other Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the three young wing competition:
  “Week in and week out, we’ll have to give you an update as to who’s stealing the show.” — Will [15:32]

• On Pritchard’s jump shot:
  “...his three-pointer, which leans more set shot than jump shot, was like a true 1960s set shot...” — Greg [18:23]

• On Thunder’s depth:
  “It’s literally like the Thunderstruck movie with Kevin Durant. You just turn good.” — Will [30:18]

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6. Timestamps – Notable Segments

• [02:02] Show open, “the man” in high school & friendship banter
• [07:58] Why the “something or nothing” format, Celtics schedule context
• [09:23] Jordan Walsh defensive stats & Avery Bradley comp
• [15:39] Peyton Pritchard’s haircut, confidence, and aesthetics
• [22:56] Celtics’ surprising net ratings/stat profile
• [27:44] Celtics’ margin of victory/clutch record
• [28:05] NBA-wide: Thunder’s dominance; league-wide threat assessment
• [31:33] Wemby’s league standing
• [35:43] Hannah Hidalgo’s 16-steal performance
• [39:01] Jalen Brown’s rebounding dip—something or nothing?
• [42:07] Luka Garza’s work ethic gets rewarded

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7. Episode Tone & Style

The episode maintains the show’s signature blend of playful friendship, self-deprecating humor, and deep Celtics/NBA nerdery. The “something or nothing” format is used both for genuine analysis and for running jokes (e.g., Pritchard’s haircut). The hosts speak as knowledgeable Celtics fans with keen appreciation for team-building, development arcs, and the unpredictability of a young roster.

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8. Conclusion

• Hosts wrap up by emphasizing the volatility of a young, experimenting Celtics team.
• They preview upcoming Celtics games and potential for moves should the team hang around .500 and Tatum return.
• Signoff: Next episode coming Monday morning after the weekend break.

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IF YOU MISSED IT:

• This episode is a must-listen for fans eager to decipher which early-season Celtics trends matter — and which are just noise. Jordan Walsh’s emergence, Pritchard’s renewed spark, and the three-wing competition get the spotlight, but there is also a strong pulse check on where the Celtics fit in the evolving NBA landscape, including the Thunder’s looming dominance and Wemby’s superstardom.

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Transcript

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[B]

To Green with Envy with Will and Greg. All right everybody, Celtics have three deserved days off coming up here. So we're going live today. Right now it is Thursday afternoon. We're gonna hit you with a game called something or nothing where we take a look at some stats from the early part of the season. And this is something. Is it nothing? I don't know. Stick around, find out. It's Green with Envy. You guys know the deal. Let's lock in. What up, what up, what up? Welcome into another edition of Greenwich Envy. As always, this is what will we are checking in. How you doing? How you living? Joining me as he does each and every time, my best friend, co host and the coach of our podcast, the one and only Greg Menakes. Greg, little little different schedule for us this week. Little mid afternoon Thursday recording. Nice. Little change of pace. Keep you on your toes.

[D]

Yeah, it's not bad. You know it's funny. I'm going to start by completely throwing us off, off track right away. Right away.

[B]

Something that honestly that's the most expected thing to happen on this podcast.

[D]

Something that I've, I've been like struggling with and thinking about since it happened. And I just want to make sure that we're on the same page because it's been driving me crazy. On Monday, me, you and Townsend met up to play ball and Townsend at.

[B]

One point asked, Townsend is one of our friends here in Austin that we hoop with just for the audience and.

[D]

At one point he asked you he said, oh, was Greg the man in high school? He says he was the man. Which I've never said. Which I never said. The way you responded to it. I was like, God damn it. Now, like, Will thinks I'm going around, like, misrepresenting myself for decades here in Austin, Texas, and I've been thinking about it, but I knew he was kidding when he said it. So I was like, is he. Was he just making inferences because of, like, how I was like, oh, yeah, I play. I was the starting point guard. I. I was the quarterback. You know what I mean?

[B]

Like.

[D]

Like when you. When you hear it from an objective point of view, it's like, oh, yeah, like, sounds like a pretty cool guy. And then it's like, yeah, but it's Greg.

[B]

And.

[D]

And.

[B]

And for the audience reference, immediately he was like, yeah, you sounded like the guy at my high school who did that. He's from Indiana. The kid that he's referring to was like a D1 quarterback and then also got offers to play basketball, like, at a D1. Like, it was like, indiana Gatorade player of the year. And I immediately, when he said, I was like, listen, Craig's life was not like that in. In high school. Yeah, that. I didn't really. I'll be honest, when he said that, I. I didn't know where. I didn't know how I was supposed to react to it. I didn't because. Because one. I was like, ah, man, I hope Greg's not out here gassing stuff up. Like that. Greg was cool, and I. He was fine. Like, you know, I mean, like, you were, you know, want your.

[D]

You want your best friend to, like, ostensibly be cool, right? Like, I mean, you're my best friend. I would always describe you as a cool dude, but I would never be like, yeah, Will was like, the man. You know what I mean?

[B]

Like, in my head, when he said this, I'm like, damn. Greg described himself like the jock in a CW show, walking around with, like, his letterman jacket on, and just, like, the girls are all scheming up ways to hook up with him, and. And I'm like, that wasn't quite what high school experience was like, but that's kind of what it sounded like. That's the.

[D]

That's the life that Greg has been living in his. Then just let him do it, you know? So it's bothering me. It's been bothering me. I'm like, God, I have to bring this up, like, because it drives me crazy. Like, I did not. I don't think I misrepresented myself.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Those conversations.

[B]

Well, here's the thing.

[D]

I just want to clear the air in case you're like, God damn it, my friend is a conceited dick.

[B]

No. Well, I mean, in the moment, it did cross my mind, and I was like, is it. Is it my role as your best friend to keep up the lie? Right, right.

[D]

Exactly.

[B]

Yeah. So, like, in my head, like, I honestly, I don't know if you noticed, but, like, I kind of, like, didn't. Like, I responded, but, like, we didn't.

[D]

Even make eye contact when it happened.

[B]

Yeah. What is this lie that's happening right now? Like, do I need to be like, yeah, dude, you should have seen it. It was a scene, man. Like, I like, I was, but I also like it. You didn't. From this. From the things that he knows. You didn't lie. Like, you were the high school quarterback. You did play on the varsity basketball team. You did play varsity baseball. Like, those are all true facts. There's just a strong lack of context that goes along with it.

[D]

That's great. I just. I just wanted to hop on here and just make sure that we cleared the air just in case you were, like, holding some resentment towards me. And this is what anxiety is. Right. Like, ever. Ever since that, I've just been, like, stewing on it, like, thinking about it non stop. Like, I got to talk to Will about this. And then I. I told myself on the pod, I was like, I told myself, I'm gonna address it on the pod. And so Will sees exactly how transparent I'm being. I'm doing it in a public forum.

[B]

Yeah. So it's one of those things where, like, in the moment I had, like, right now, you and I could talk about this and I could tell you all the thoughts that went through my head. And it was, like, 20 seconds worth of thoughts that I could now verbalize into maybe 10 minutes. Right. Of like, what does it mean? This means that all. All these different scenarios have not thought about it since we left the gym. But until you just brought it up right now. But in that moment when I was like, what are my responsibilities? How am I supposed to act? Should I hype Greg up? Should I continue? Or should I just be like, get the out of here and, like, just, like, you know, go that.

[D]

Which is what you should have done.

[B]

Yeah. And instead I kind of just fell in the middle and just was like, I kind of hope we move on to a different conversation.

[D]

That's exactly.

[B]

That was kind of. Kind of where it went to. But so in the spirit of our episode today, I'd say ultimately that was nothing. It was something in your head.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And ultimately it's a nothing. And I hope. I hope Townsend listens to this because I'm sure it's something that he has not thought about since we left. And we'll have to send him the beginning of. Of this episode because that's actually really, really good. So, in a way, even though you took us on a completely different path, you did get us to the premise of what today's episode is going to be about. So, real quick, just in case you guys haven't been following along, make sure you guys are subscribing, hitting the follow button on YouTube. Twitter tick tock is popping right now, thanks to our guy Alex. So make sure you guys are catching up with us everywhere. And of course, you can check out some of our past episodes, including our interview with Chase Serrano. Highly recommend that you guys go back and check that out either on YouTube or wherever you guys listen to podcasts. But last night we were gonna do a podcast after the Celtics Grizzlies. The Grizzlies just were non competitive last night, just from the very jump. It just didn't feel like a very fun game to have to come on here and be like, hey, let's find something to talk about in this game. So instead, we decided to push a day, especially with three days off coming up here for the Celtics. It's been pretty quick hitting these first 13 games for the Celts.

[D]

So feels like every pod we've been doing, other than the Shade pod, has been a game recap. And like, we, we don't mind doing game recaps for you guys. Like, I like listening to a good game recap pod on another pod feed or whatever. But like, in general, we want some content that's going to last more than just like your passing thoughts from the night if you miss the game. Right. So that's basically why we, if you were looking to tune in last night, we apologize. This is why we postpone because we wanted to give you something with a little bit more substance and we're better when we're prepared.

[B]

Yeah, it's just, it's a more fun podcast for us. That's just how we prefer to pod. But it is the name of the game if there's a game. Sometimes you just got to go live. You got to do it is what it is. But with a couple days off with the blowout last night, Celtics are now six and seven. Three days off. And so we wanted to figure out a way to talk about what's happened so far in this season. So we came up with a gimmick that we're going to call something or nothing. We've got about 10ish different stats and statements that we're going to throw out there and we're collectively, we're going to decide is it something, is it nothing? Greg, I've got one here that I'm gonna bet we both have on our list. So I'm, I'm gonna go first because I'm, I'm gonna get out of the way because I'm pretty sure that we're gonna have it. Have it because it seems like the topic du jour, if you will. So I'm gonna go with my first something or nothing and I'm gonna talk about Jordan Walsh and I'm going to give you just a quick context on Jordan Walsh here before I go into my something or nothing statement. Jordan Walsh over his last three games, here's some individual defensive statistics for him versus Orlando. He guarded Franz and Paulo primarily. Only eight points and two turnovers forced against that duo Maxi the next night or a couple nights later in Philadelphia. Four points, one of nine from the field when going up against Jordan Walsh. And then in the most recent game against the the Memphis Grizzlies, he guarded up to Jaren Jackson Jr. 2 points 05 from the field, 2 turnovers. Greg something or nothing. Jordan Walsh is the new Avery Bradley.

[D]

I wasn't thinking the new Avery Bradley, but I kind of like that. Like a six foot six. Avery Bradley is one hell of a player, man. Like I honestly hadn't made that connection in my brain yet. And Avery Bradley, when you think back to the impact that he had on the late Big three era with kg, Paul and Ray, he was kind of the guy that drove a wedge between Ray Allen and the rest of the team. Right? Because Avery Bradley earned some minutes that other people were not expecting him to get. So I like that. I'm gonna say that's something, man. Because Jordan Walsh, you know, I've always compared him to Iggy. He has all the measurables, what do you do on the basketball court as you said. And what he does is apparently he plays on ball defense where he can guard Tyrese Maxey one night, Paulo Ben Caro another night, all the way up to Jaren Jackson Jr. Who's not the most physical offensive player, but he's 7ft tall and has a battering arm for, you know, a forearm. So yeah, Man, I think it's something I, I really think the Celtics, the internal competition between Josh Minot, Ugo Gonzalez and Jordan Walsh is going to drive them to be the best versions of themselves within the role that they're currently tasked to play, which is going to be that wing that's playing off of Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown. Right, Right now, just Jaylen Brown and Josh Minot set the bar early in the season. He said, this is what it needs to be. Ugo also, you know, was like, all right, I see your bar. I'm going to try and jump and hit my head off that bar. And he, you know, maybe jumped over it at one point and then just mine. And they started going back and forth and Jordan Walsh didn't get his opportunity. I think it was until the Wizards game. Right, the Wizards game. And the blowout was when he got his first opportunity to get some real run. It may have been another game. Maybe the Wizards game was the game after the, the bl. And he. I think, yeah, because I think he played against the Rockets. I think that's how it went. And he just looks great, man. He's like, all right, Josh Minor, I see the corner crash, I see the rebounding that we so desperately need. I'm going to go ahead and do that. Ugo Gonzalez, I see the deflections that you're getting. I see the on ball defense. I'm going to go ahead and do that. So now he goes from not being able to really do anything on a basketball court to doing like ultimate role player stuff. And it's really exciting.

[B]

Yeah, this is an interesting one, right? And the Avery Bradley comparison for me was, you know, and I'd have to go back here and look up, but it was either year two or year three for Avery Bradley, right? When he really jumped out and was like, oh, like he's stealing minutes from hall of Famer Ray Allen right now. And he deserves to. You know what I mean? Like, it was a little jarring. And it's, it's to your point, it's part of what drove basically Ray Allen to Miami, right, Was that he was losing minutes to Avery. And it was at the time, and you've heard since KG and Paul talk about, yo, Avery was a pest in practice, right? Like, we were like, yo, who is this dude? Like, right? Where did he come from? And you know, and it's interesting because they both have certain pedigrees. They were both McDonald's all Americans. Avery Bradley at one point in high school was the number one Ranked recruit above. Above John Wall. Excuse me. Jordan Walsh went into high school, you know, or went from high school to college as potentially being a lottery pick. He falls the second round. So there are certain similarities to it in kind of the way that Jordan Walsh is establishing himself. And I'm with you. I think it's something I'm a little tentative only because to the point that you were making about the competition between Jordan Walsh and Ugo and Josh Minot is that at least for now, and this is probably the funnest part of the Celtic season for me, in my opinion is a little bit of the flavor of the week, right? Like the flavor of the week was, you know, Ugo popped out in the New York game. We're like, oh, how can Ugo's got to play all the time now look at this 19 year old. Then he gets a DNP basically the next game, and Josh Mein that kind of takes over the mantle the next couple of games, Ugo pops in and then Jordan Walsh in the last, you know, three, four games has really, all of a sudden, come on. I think he first got his chance in the blowout against the Rockets and has really kind of built off the momentum from that. And what makes me lean towards this really being something is those are four legit names that I just dropped in the last three games that he is taking the main assignment against. And. And because it's from Maxi to Franz, who's a wing, to. To Paulo and Triple J who can kind of be power forward centers, like, that's a wide, A wide range of people that he is able to guard and do so extremely effectively. And even, you know, our, our buddy Liptak, who's been on the podcast before, is a Knicks fan, said he was checking out the end of, I think it was the Sixers game maybe. And you had mentioned something like, man, just do. Jordan Walsh is kind of balling out defensively and even said he said he had noticed him without really knowing much about Jordan Walsh or the background that we know as Celtics fans. So like for him to jump out off somebody just tuning into the end of a game kind of randomly, basically, like that also tells me something that it's not just us like being extra locked in on. What are these three guys doing? It's sticking out to, you know, unbiased observers that are just kind of tuning into games. And so for Jordan Walsh, I think it's something I, I don't know if it's gonna continue to the heights where, you know, at one point, Avery Bradley was being compared to, like, Darrell Rivas, like, Reavis Island, Bradley Island. There was like a little bit of that at one point. And Avery, you know, to this day is still one of the. At his peak for that two, three years. Maybe the best on ball defender I. I've seen in. In small increments. Right? Like, but, like, what he was doing was really crazy in that time. And he's one of my favorite Celtics. Probably like one of the more underrated Celtics. Like, thinking back to the draft we did, I wish somebody drafted Avery Bradley. I don't think we did. But Jordan Walsh, he's on the trajectory. It's. It's a fun. It's a fun part of the season that I didn't see coming. And between these three guys just week in and week out, we'll have to give you an update as to who's. Who's stealing the show.

[D]

All right, I'm gonna go a little goofy here. Peyton Pritchard cut his hair. He said his wife wanted him to grow it out. You know, women, they like long hair. I don't know if, you know, this will, but women like a full, luscious head of hair. But he always like to keep it short while he's hooping. And honestly, I thought with the haircut, he looked faster, he looked bouncier, and most importantly, he looked confident on. On the court, which is what he did not look in the Sixers game. So my statement. Peyton Pritchard's confidence is directly tied to a high bald fade. Something or nothing.

[B]

I love how much you enjoy the aesthetics of how a guy looks. I remember we had the Marcus Morris black shoes. He's just better in black shoes. Like, the way he. He cuts and moves. And I feel like there's. I feel like there's been another. There was another hair version of. Of the statement that I feel like you've made in the past before. I can't think of it, but I.

[D]

But I know these JB's braids.

[B]

Maybe it might. Might be JB's braids, but for pain. Bridget, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna double down. Say it is something. Because the confidence was so noticeable. I tweeted about it last night. Just. You could see specifically in that Philadelphia game just the overthinking that was happening in Peyton Pritchard's game. And there are shots that, like, listen, when he wasn't hitting shots, and he's starting to turn that around. Hitting more shots here over the last couple of games or so. And even early in the year, I wasn't worried about Peyton Pre. I was like, man, 17 is pretty bad, Peyton. We got to start hitting some shots. But his confidence, he was shooting, he was shooting good shots, right? He was shooting shots that I've seen him make a bunch of times. He's a career 40% shooter. Like, that's the guy he is. He came in as a shooter, he's always been able to shoot, right. His handles and his shooting have been two things that have never been a question about him in the NBA, right? Everything else, like about his size, about his playmaking, whatever else, you can question those. But shooting and ball handling, he's always been able to do. And so, you know, seeing him kind of. And he talked about this, how he was feeling, like it was two, three years ago. I think he mentioned where he was like, yeah, I just, I just kind of lost myself for a few games and like I went, you know, a couple years ago, went five games without a bucket. Like, I just didn't feel like myself. And so if, hey, having that short hair is what it takes to get back to being that dude. Because this team is 6 and 7 and we're gonna get to some other stats about them that are kind of confusing if you're just like going off subjectively watching them. If they're going to get to, you know, where they want to be, which for the season is probably top of the play and maybe fighting for that succeed, like him and Derrick White got to hit shots. Like they just haven't hit shots and they're somehow almost 500. And so if that's what it takes for Peyton Pritchard, Buzz cut it up my guy, because I do think he looked way more confident in the last game.

[D]

I think a lot of it had to do with like how quickly he was getting his, his shot off in the game last night, which I think is directly tied to confidence and not like overthink mechanics. It felt like early in the season his three pointer, which is which leans more set shot than jump shot, was like a true like 1960s set shot. He was taking forever to get that thing off. And which is why I think he was leaning a little bit more into the mid range because he just like felt like his mechanics were a little bit better with the mid range shot. That's my inference that I'm, that I'm making off of that. But I do think that last night he came out, he was a little bit more on his toes, less on his heels when he was shooting. He was getting off the ground a little bit quicker there. Maybe that is just confidence. And he wasn't thinking about it. But I noticed it like from the very first shot he took in the game last night. I was like, oh, okay. Peyton, like, you know, coming up, no hesitation, coming off a screen, I think moving to his left on the wing, shooting that three pointer. And then I love what the Celtics were doing. They ran a lot of zoom actions for him last night. So the zoom action for everybody, it's when you go pin down. So Peyton Pritchard in the corner, right? They go pin down. So screen down to the corner for him and then a dribble handoff with a big right. So it goes pin down, dribble handoff with Keda. Pritchard's coming to his right hand. He's got the pass to the corner. He's got a kick out to the wing. He's got Kata rolling hard to the basket, right? And it seemed like they started to unlock something a little bit with Pritchard there. He mentioned how he and Keda starting to understand a little bit of the spacing and the timing where he likes the lobs and things of that nature. So as much as I want instant gratification from Peyton Pritchard and for him to be, you know, a borderline all star point guard, which I think he has the potential to be, it's not going to happen overnight just like all the other guys on the team. It's going to take them a little bit more time to grow into these new roles that they have this season. I think you'll see Pritchard figure it out. He's too good of a player for him.

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[B]

Yeah, nine assists against the Grizzlies. And I do think the connection with Keda was, was very noticeable in that game. Right. I know you called it a zoom action. I saw somebody else call it like a Bilbo Bilbo action. Bill Bilbao, I forget, I don't know like, like the city in Spain. Anyway. Yeah, I saw them call it that. Where it leads like the K to alley OOP on that, on that similar type action. And that's something where it's like for Peyton, like that was the, the biggest concern for me coming into the season. So if he's going to get back to just being confident where he's 5 of 10 shooting the three ball last night, like that's what he should be doing. He should be shooting 10 solid threes. Quick release like if you're open. He should never think about, he shouldn't think about what? Like, like yes, we want him to be a playmaker, but your role, especially with this team, that's gonna, you know, last night offense wasn't an issue, but it is going to be an issue in a lot of games this year. If Peyton Pritchard sees daylight, he should shoot. That should not change in his diet of how he plays and then adding on the different, you know, play making skills. I think that's where he's, you're going to see the biggest change in him. And so hey, if it takes a haircut, take the haircut. All about it, man. All about it. All right, let's go to the next something or nothing that I have here. And these are just some stats that are just kind of surprising to me, Greg, and I just want to get your thoughts on them. So right now Your Boston, your 6 and 7 Boston Celtics are currently 9th in offensive rating, 8th in defensive rating and leaves them 8th in net rating with a plus 4.9 something or nothing because it doesn't feel that way watching this team, but they're top 10 in both categories and their eighth in net rating. Something or nothing.

[D]

I'm gonna go something and let me explain a little bit more. So I actually had that written down as my first stat because I know that's a stat you always go to when you look at championship teams, right? Are they top 10 in both offensive rating and defensive rating? Most championship teams are. Right. I think the Celtics are the only team that are top 10 in net rating that are under 500 currently. And I think maybe part of it could be the blowout win against the Grizzlies, right, that they just had, which is going to inflate some of those numbers. And then the blowout win against the Wizards was it. And I think maybe they had one more blowout win, right? So three out of their six wins, I think have been blowout wins. So that's going to inflate those numbers to some degree. And that's what, you know, good teams can do or the, the best of the average teams will do is they'll beat up on low level competition, right, which is what they've been able to do thus far. And there is something to be said about the defensive identity that they're starting to develop, right? Those wings, like when they had Ugo, Minot and Walsh all on the court together last night during garbage time, I was like, this is, this is my type of basketball.

[B]

Just like that might be something that, that feels fun to watch, right?

[D]

So like my something. This is something is more like it's something because of where the schedule is like creating a loophole in, in those stats. You know what I mean? Ultimately, in terms of like, are they a championship contender this year because of that? As, as you say, that is a prerequisite for a championship team? No, I don't, I don't think they are. I don't think they're a top four seed. My guy, Phil Keefe, that I've referenced a few times on the pod, he thinks they're going to be a four seed at the end of the year. It's wishful thinking. But, you know, I, there are elements to this team where you watch them and you're like, man, like they might just be adjacent Tatum away. And that's what we have. They're waiting, you know, waiting in the wings. Is Jason Tatum looking to come back sooner rather than later? By the way, did you see Jason Tatum's latest video of him, you know, working, working out in the gym?

[B]

I have not. I saw him on one of the last road trips working out. What was the, what was this last video?

[D]

I think the Celtics posted it. It was him. It was just like a clip of him coming down, hitting with like a little cross hesy pull up jumper and it just looks smooth. It looked good, man.

[B]

Yeah. And you know, adding Jason Tatum back, that's a, that's a pretty good piece to add back in to any mix. I think for me, I lean more that this is nothing. This is, to me, this is kind of Just early season, to your point, like one or two blowouts really influence it. And for the most part, the Celtics have had two blowouts in their favor. And even when they've kind of gotten blown out against Houston, like it, you know, the game ended up being a little bit closer than, than what this, the score indicated. It was a little bit closer than what the game actually was. And so, you know, I, I think with this team to your point, I think the defense has the potential to continue to be somewhere around that 8 to 10, 11, 12 range. It's the offense. This is not a top 10 offense. I'm sorry, I, I just don't see how this can be a top 10 offense. Again, the caveat to this is, to this point, Derrick White and Peyton Pritchard have shot the ball pretty poorly in majority of the games. And so if they start just hitting shots at a normal rate, maybe, maybe it is. If you're the most optimistic, that's, that's one way that I think you could look at this and say, hey, they're ninth. Now just imagine if Derrick White and Peyton Pritchard get back to consistently shooting 38, 39, 40, which is typically, you know, kind of where they're at. But as we've said before or as we've talked about in this podcast, with those wings, they're really fun. They're really up and down offensively, right? Those are all three guys that are going to play a lot of minutes. And, and some nights Josh Minus can hit a couple threes. Some nights Ugo's gonna hit a couple three. Some night Jordan Walsh is gonna hit a couple threes. Some nights they're not gonna hit anything like literally zero between them. And it's gonna be really tough on your offense to, to then have everyone else pick up the slack when you have three different guys that are just going to be inconsistent. And that's fine. That's part of the journey with the three of them right now that if one of them can start to be more consistent on the offensive end, that might be their differentiator or their separator in that kind of competition that they're having. And that's going to take time because they're all just getting real minutes for the first time in their careers. But with that, I just think that offensive rating is going to be really hard to maintain. And so for me, I'm going to say that this is nothing. Little bit of early season luck, if you will. You alluded to the kind of the schedule and coming up here Clippers who are struggling two games against the Nets. Like, this is an opportunity to keep boosting those numbers. So we'll see where they play out after the next week or so. But for now I'm gonna say that this is nothing but definitely something to keep an eye on.

[D]

Celtics average margin of victory right now is 18.6 points. So in their six wins, they're winning by 18.6 points. They have four wins of over 20 points.

[B]

Okay. So yeah, that will certainly help you. And then, you know, there's another number here that maybe we'll get to here in close games. It definitely is not on their side. Go to you here, Greg.

[D]

All right, I'm gonna go NBA wide now. All right, you ready for this?

[B]

Will, hit me.

[D]

The Oklahoma City Thunder are 12 and one right now. Their defense is number one in the league by over six points per game. They lead the league in steals. They are allowing the least points in the paint, fast break and second chance points. They average the most defensive rebounds in the league, which is their supposed Achilles heel from a couple years ago. They're number one in generating points off turnovers. They are on pace for the best record of all time. And it's not close. They're on pace, will, for like a 76. 6 record right now.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And potentially historic back to back, obviously coming off of the championship last year. SGA currently averaging 32, 5 and 6. Chet is averaging 19, 9 and flirting with a 60, 40, 90 season. Kayson Wallace is leading the league in steals. AJ Mitchell. Who the is AJ Mitchell is averaging 174 and 4, is third in the league in steals. And guess what, Will? Jdub hasn't even played yet.

[B]

I know, I know. It's terrifying.

[D]

Are the Oklahoma. The Oklahoma City are about to do a historic back to back and become one of the greatest NBA teams of all time. Something or nothing?

[B]

Something. Fact. Buy it. Whatever Gimmick we're doing. Yeah, 100. Like the. The Thunder are terrifying. Like I thought about putting them. We were debating a couple different, you know, gimmicks that we were going to do here. I was thinking of a way to work the Oklahoma City Thunder in for all the reasons that you just listed out. The biggest of which is probably that their second best player. Third, third team all NBA. You know, third year guy now within his fourth year and he hasn't even played yet. Yet. Hasn't even played yet. And they're 11, 1, 12, 1. Whatever it is. And just statistically just overwhelming against everybody. They play and they just keep finding guys they Just keep finding guys and they don't even have to tax guys like Alex Caruso. They can save them for the playoffs. They have the two bigs, they've, they've got. You know, you said E.J. mitchell's came out of nowhere. All of a sudden he's a guy sometimes you turn on. There's a couple other guys on their roster who I'm like, who, who are these guys? I'm sure they're good because they're playing for Oklahoma City. And if you just put on a Thunder jersey days, it's literally like the thunderstruck movie with Kevin Durant. You just turn good. You're just a good NBA player now. So. Yeah, I mean, I, I don't know what you do. Like this is at least early on feels like one of those seasons where it's. What are we, is everyone just playing for a second? Like, unless, unless there's like, like unless there's just an avalanche of injuries at the wrong time to the Thunder. It feels like everyone is, is kind of just playing for a second and you're just setting yourself up for just in case scenario. But again, we just highlighted. They keep backfilling guys all the time. They even have their second best player. So maybe that's fool's goal to even wait on an injury. But yeah, the, the Thunder feel inevitable right now.

[D]

Yeah, they smoked the Lakers last night. Full strength. Outside of LeBron Lakers last night. I think the league's only hope is Jokic, who also had 55 points last night.

[B]

Yeah, it might be. I mean, listen, and this is here, I'll go to one of mine that's like, like somewhat in this, in this conversation as well too. Like the only two answers might be Jokic and Wemby. Those are, those are, I think maybe the only two ways. It might be too early for Wemby, but something or nothing. Wemby is already a top three player in the league.

[D]

I actually had this conversation with co workers the other day. I'm gonna say that is nothing. I don't think he's a top three player in the league right now because I think it's very clearly Jokic, SGA and Giannis. I think you can make the argument that he's 4. I wouldn't go that far as of yet. I still think he has to do it consistently for more than this 12 game sample of this season. Right. But he's tracking that way for sure. I just think it would be insane to put him above Jokic, SGA and Giannis. Right. Now, because, I mean, Giannis's numbers are bananas. Jokic put up 55 last night. And SGA, as we just mentioned, is leading potentially one of the greatest teams of all time. So yeah, Wemby. Wemby could get there, I think. You know, as you were talking, I was thinking like, maybe this is one of those things where the Thunder become like so dominant for the next two years. Maybe they're like flirting with a three peat next year. And then it's like, you know what? Here's Wemby to save the day. And then it becomes the Wemby era basketball.

[B]

It's a great story too. It's a great arc as well. Right. Just for, for the Wemby story, the.

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[B]

Yeah, I'm with you. I, I think where I get to right now is I probably put him fourth and that's ahead of Luka Tatum. Just put him to the side right now with, with, with the injury. We'll. We'll reassess when he comes back. But out of guys playing right now, like, I, I think I'm already ready just because of the defense. Even though Luke is also. At least last I check, he was averaging like 37 points a game. So like you only had 19 last.

[D]

Night against the Thunder.

[B]

Okay, so maybe he's down to 36, but you know, like with, with Wemby, it's, It's just watching him and I tried to watch the game last night against the warriors where Steph goes for 46. Steph's still hanging around and you know, the spurs lost and there's. But it's still, every time I watch Wemby, there's just something he does that I'm like, how does he do it? Or it's, it's not even just, I haven't seen that before. It's things that I do see that he shouldn't be able to do, that I see others do where I'm like, you shouldn't be able to do that, too. And there's this one clip that was going around where he is chasing Steph Curry over and under picks, and he's following him all over the court and then recovers to go block another player at the rim him. And it's, you know, we talked about this in the off season. I forget we were having a Steph Curry conversation about the. One of the best aspects of Steph is his relocation and off ball Movement and Victor Wembanyama's 76 following him around screens and around the court and then recovering to go to the rim and block someone else's shot like that. Like, that's just not a thing that you should be able to do. And it's a thing where, you know, we've seen, you know, we were praising Avery Bradley earlier. Like, I saw Avery Bradley pick up guys, full court, cut through different, you know, different screens and stick with somebody. And you're like, yo, that's a dog right there. But he's a six, four guard, six three guard, women. Yama's a foot and a half taller. Like, it's, it just doesn't make any sense.

[D]

And, you know, Wendy wants revenge on Steph until Steph retires from basketball for the Olympics. He's like, I'm gonna try and get that back. Every time I play against Steph Curry.

[B]

It'S the iconic shot. It's him trying to block that shot. Right? That is the staple of that Olympic run. So, yeah, he's always going to be trying to get it back. And so I, I, I'm with you. I think it's nothing right now, but I think he might already be fourth at worst. He's fifth in the league right now, active this year.

[D]

Okay, I'm gonna go. Women's college basketball will Hannah Hidalgo, Notre Dame point guard, had 16 steals in a game last night. Is she, is Hannah Hidalgo. I'm telling the best way to phrase this, is she setting the bar that will inspire a defensive performance in the NBA to conquer 16 steals?

[B]

To be clear, she also had like 40 points in this game.

[D]

Yeah, it was like 44 and 16. 16 steals. I, I saw it. I was like, oh, that's a typos. They meant six. And then I was like, no, she had 16 steals.

[B]

Okay? I, I saw this as a graphic. And yeah, at first I was like, oh, it was a cool game. It was like 44 points, six rebounds, you know, seven assists or something. Maybe, maybe she had double double or something. I was like, yeah, that is a beast game. I just saw the bottom where it said 16 steals. And I was like, like, kind of your same thing. I was like, that can't be right. I'm gonna say it's nothing. I'm saying this is an aberration. 16 seals is just like, unfathomable. Like, I, I didn't. I don't know if you went and tried to watch, like, some of the highlights from this, like, getting 16 steals. I, I can't even, like, picture how that would happen in a high level basketball game. Right? Like, yeah, like, like they had to have just.

[D]

They had to have just gone at her constantly. Like, it's kind of like when we.

[B]

Were playing, you would think after nine steals, maybe they, maybe they changed the game plan at some point, but.

[D]

Right. And it was a blowout. The coaches maybe left her in too long. But like, if you're, if you're a good defender, right, and someone just like, keeps going at you, like, I'm thinking about, like, us playing one on one, me, you in, In Townsend the other day. Like, I'm a pretty good defender. Like, when you guys would go at me, I feel like I would at least tip the ball on like 70 of of the possessions. You guys still got shots off, but I was always like, there, you know what I mean? And like, she was going up against Akron, right? And it's like, Hannah Hidalgo has been a great player for Notre Dame for three years now. She's like a defensive menace. And they continue to just like, try and dribble at her. It's like, at some point you got to do something else. And at some point, the coach should probably take her out of the game. But 16 seals, man, that was freaking amazing.

[B]

Yeah. Shout out to you for bringing some women's college basketball to the program.

[D]

Did not see that out, baby.

[B]

Did not see that coming. All right, I'm gonna bring us back to the Celtics here because I've got something here that, you know, we've got a couple days off here that I've. I've wanted to bring up, but I've been hesitant to do, so. Okay, so something or nothing. Jalen Brown, who has been fantastic this year. Let me just get ahead of this. Jalen Brown's been awesome this year. He's shooting career, best effective field goal percentage. He's at a career high, just about 28 points per game. However, get your umbrellas out. I'm gonna rain on the parade just a little bit. However, he's currently averaging 5.1 rebounds. It's his lowest total since 2018-19 when he averaged 4.2. When I wanted to bring this up, he was below five, I think two games ago and then got. Got just over five. So he's getting closer to, to where he was, you know, a couple, you know, about 5.8, I think, is where he was at last year. However, this team has a rebound deficiency in a rebounding size hole left by Jason Tatum. Something or nothing that Jalen Brown is having his worst rebounding year since his third year in the league.

[D]

Nothing. Nothing. I. Jalen's never going to be a guy that gets a ton of rebounds because of his defensive assignments. He's not going to be just like hanging around the rim like Tatum oftentimes low man. Right. So he, he's kind of like designed within the defensive scheme to grab the ball if it's a missed shot. And I think with Jalen, he just plays on the ball too much and he's contesting too many shots for him to necessarily be the guy to, to get the rebounds. And every rebound that he gets, I feel like is a big one. You know, I think the other night when Kelly Oubrey got that offensive put back, that was just like a, a terrible shot. I don't think his positioning was awful. Him and Uber were kind of shoulder to shoulder and then Edwards shot just like clanked right into Uber's hand. So even like a possession like that, I don't necessarily put that on jb and he's doing so much on offense, for him to have that extra energy to get one more defensive rebound a game. I don't necessarily know that I'm gonna fault JB for that.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I've just always been. I just always feel like he's can be a better rebounder. Like he's. He's averaged before, you know, in his career up to almost seven rebounds per game in his all NBA second season. You know, he's been. He was in for a good stretch above six consistently in his career. And over the last year or so or last couple years, it's gone down to 5.5, 5.8 now at 5.1. Like, I so it again, he does a lot for this team. So it's really hard to be like, hey, man, can you get one more rebound? That's not going to solve every everything for this team, right? But where that is such a gaping hole for this team, it is always something that I like with his athleticism, with his physicality that I've always in my mind. And to your point, when he does get a rebound, it feels important. It feels big. And so maybe that's part of the bias in my mind that I've always associated him as being. He's not a bad rebounder, certainly, but being a better rebounder than he is. When you start to look at some of these stats and, like, you know, Tanner's got a lot of responsibilities. He still gets 8, 9, 10 rebounds a game. You see a lot of these other, you know, stars in the league. And listen, as the lead dog, like, you know, you still see these guys getting the board, getting bored. Now, not all of them are going to be tough in traffic. Rebounds, I get that. But five rebounds, I. I do think there could be more. So to me, it is a little something. I don't think it's anything major, but I do think it's a little something. And it's a little something for me, where it's like, hey, listen, you're top dog. Everybody's got a. You know, you just get more pressure, you get more criticism. It kind of comes with it. And so it is what it is. And it's. Yeah, that was.

[D]

That was gonna be everything else that was gonna be. My last point is like, I don't think it's anything, but I always think it's good to challenge your best player to do a little bit more right? So that he's the type of guy that if you said, hey, Jalen, you need to get two more rebounds a game, he would take it personally and he would go do it right. So I'm okay with it being something just because I think JB is. Is the type of guy that's going to take that challenge, because I love jb. Okay, last one?

[B]

Yeah, let's do it.

[D]

Luca Garza reportedly will shot 12,000 more practice shots than anybody else in the NBA last season. I don't know if you saw this. Joe Missoula said he plays harder than anybody else on the court. Luca Garza's work ethic is making him a viable NBA rotation big. Is this something or nothing?

[B]

I'll say it's something, and I'll give You a quick story here. So I went for a run just in my neighborhood. I was gonna go to the gym. I was like, it's been, like, a bunch of traffic, like, trying to get to the gyms. Like, I'm just gonna go for a run in the neighborhood. And so, like, I. I hate running. I absolutely despise running. It's just not fun for me. And so usually I have to turn into some type of game where it's like, you know, run for this entire song, then stop, walk a little bit. Then it's like, pick out a visualization and, like, you know. You know, I'm in the neighborhood here. I don't know if I'm sprinting. Like, I'm on a track. But it's like, let's go harder than just a jog, right? And, like, yeah, it'.

[D]

So let's get to that light pole.

[B]

Exactly. Exactly. So I was heading towards the end of my run, and I was going down the street next to mine. And then when you turn and take a left, there's, like, a hill that you go up. And so I was like, all right, I'm going to make my final push. Like, right when I hit that corner, I'm just going to go as hard as I can up this portion of the hill and to get to my street. Yeah. And I saw this. I think it was our guy, Bill Tsai, who tweeted out a video from Major League. What's the. What's the catcher's name?

[D]

I always forget his name.

[B]

I know you're talking about it's Taylor something. I don't know. I don't know if Taylor's the first name or, like, Jake Taylor. Jake Taylor.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And so there's, like, the scene of him, like, running as hard as he can down the line after he throws down the butt in the big game. And it looks like Luca Guards. I think of Luca Garza when he, like, runs. Yeah. It reminds me a little bit of, like, the Enos Freedom days when we used to say, like. Like this looks like he's an alien trying to figure out how to run. Luca Garza knows how to run, but he just has to try, like, put on this, like. And so I was thinking of that going up the hill. So his work ethic is inspiring me because I was, like, putting my Luca Garza into it, trying to get up. Trying to get up to the top of the hill. And so, you know, I. I mentioned this at the beginning of the season. We were talking about him, and tillman and you know, you pointed out like Tillman's actually played meaningful minutes from the preseason. I was like, I think Garza, I'd lean Garza over Tillman. And so. And it certainly beared out that way so far. I'm not going to give myself a massive pat on the back for a Garza Tillman debate. But I do think Garza, you know, offensively he, he can be a professional NBA. As you said. It's just the defensive side we, you gotta, you worry about, you know, he's a little ground bound and slow and so it's a little bit tough. But he's been really, really solid. And I think again, I still stand by my statement if he gives me 90 Celtics 6 bigs vibes like Luca Garza fits the Vitaly Patapanco, Andrew de Klerk mold. Mold in my mind.

[D]

So here's my thing. I think not being able to jump is actually some guy's superpower and what makes a good rebounder because you're always able to like get into position while other people are looking to jump right. Or like are already in the air and they're like, oh, I'm in the air and I cannot, I can't reposition myself. Now like think about Kevin Love, one of the best rebounders in NBA history. Can't jump.

[B]

Jump.

[D]

And I think it's very similar right as the ball is going up, Luca Garza is 100, just focused on body positioning and never worried about out jumping someone. Whereas a lot of guys think they can just go get the board. Right. So I actually think he's, you know, it's like evolution. He's figured out how to turn something that is a disadvantage into an advantage for himself. And I love it, man. I think Luca Garza has been awesome.

[B]

Yeah, this is. Luke has been. Been a nice part again. This is like one of the weird things of what has led this team to 6 and 7, their eighth and net rating. Right. Like you have a lot of these guys that were on the fringes. We didn't really know what to think of them. Luca Garza has been as good or better than expected. Josh Mina? Same. Ugo Gonzalez. Same. Jordan Walsh. Last five games. Same. Right. And so that's kind of propelling this team to that 500 mark. And what you have is again it's the Peyton Pritchard shooting and Derrick White shooting that probably stand out the most as like, hey, if those get on track, this team is an above 500 team as well as you know, we'll see what happens in clutch games? That was the one stat I was alluding to earlier in the podcast. Celtics are 2 and 5 in those clutch games, just like you mentioned. They have a large. Was it 18 points is their average win margin, I think you said. But only 2 and 5 in the clutch game. So they're staying connected and out of the other games, but they're losing, you know, a lot of those battles. And so, you know, it's guys like Luca that are making the difference, that give the Celtics a fighting chance and at least keep them in the mix to see if they want to do something and get frisky. You know, we'll see what's happening in Dallas. You know, it looks like a lot of rumors are going to blow that up with Nico gone. I think there's some interesting guys on that roster if the Celtics are able to. To make a move, like, you know, maybe go sniff around to Daniel Gafford. Although we're praising Luca Garza. I'd rather have Daniel Catford, if I'm being honest. And so, you know, there's. There's some moves that can be made, but it's. It's going to be these guys keeping it close, keeping an eye on that Jason Tatum timeline and on those videos that you mentioned earlier that are like, hey, if guys can play above their weight class a little bit, we get Jason Tatum back, maybe there's room to make a move on a guy we didn't expect all of a sudden. This season could. Could change and get way more interesting really quickly by the time we get to March, but that's a. That's a ways down the road.

[D]

Cool. You got anything else?

[B]

I got another man. I got another man. I think that's gonna do it. Yeah, I just choked in my water right there. I got nothing else that's gonna do it. For this episode here of Green with Envy, that was a little call. Something or nothing. We'll be back later this week. Celtics, until I think it's Sunday. Let me just double check. Yeah, don't play again. So, yeah, so likely sometime Sunday night. We'll probably put something together or Monday morning and have something for you guys.

[D]

Let's call it Monday morning, everybody, because I know that there. My parents are in town. Will's got a party at his house on Sunday, so. So we'll call it Monday morning.

[B]

We'll call it Monday morning. Expect Monday morning. We'll have something for you. Until then, enjoy your weekend and we will catch you guys later.

[A]

Peace.

[D]

Until I hit the floor.

[B]

Every time I hit this high it's you I find it don't take much no more until the magic dark.

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