Be Anti-Christ Like

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast

Host: Deante’ Kyle
Episode: 94 – "Be Anti-Christ Like"
Date: October 21, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this unapologetically raw and humorous episode, Deante’ Kyle—joined by co-host “Big Ice Cub Cat”—dives deep into the notions of faith, Black liberation, community responsibility, cultural uplift, and critiques of contemporary religion, all while fielding listener calls and dropping real-world advice. Kyle challenges listeners to question mainstream Christianity, honor ancestors, and focus on tangible change in Black communities. The episode is laced with jokes, biting social commentary, and calls for pragmatic unity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Religion, “The Antichrist,” and Black Community Leadership

• Satirical Opening: Kyle plays with the idea of being “the Antichrist,” donning a Trump-style suit and referencing Lucifer as “the light bringer,” (01:29), using satire to critique how people weaponize Christianity within the Black community.
• “Lucifer is the light... according to the scripture, the bringer of light.” – Deante’ Kyle (01:29)
• Critique of performative Christianity: Kyle argues that true Christ-like behavior is action-oriented and community-based—not rooted in judgment or dogma (15:25–19:03).
• On the church:
  • “It’s a blessing when the pastor show up in a private jet... but the people outside that church ain’t prospering.” (15:25)
  • Calls out megachurches for extracting wealth while neglecting tangible services—no grocery stores, hospitals, banks, or community infrastructure.

2. Honoring Ancestors vs. Worship and Ancestral Literacy

• Explains honoring ancestors as distinct from worshipping them, rooting it in both biblical and African traditions.
• Breaks down the importance of lineage and genealogy in the Bible (29:10), and likens honoring Black foremothers/fathers to studying hip hop’s roots.
• Debunks critiques calling him “the Antichrist,” as a misunderstanding of his focus on history, reverence, and actionable support for the community.

3. Food Insecurity, Community Drives, and The Role of Activism

• Partnership with Jasmine’s Garden for a Halloween fundraiser, coat drive, and non-perishable food collection to combat food insecurity amidst government shutdown threats.
• Urges listeners and local churches to match or exceed the activist energy coming from so-called “sinners” (12:32–15:24).
• Calls for $1 donations from 50,000 followers to effect immediate, local change.

4. Celebrating Failure vs. Success in Black Communities (39:50–44:48)

• Discusses the problematic norm of celebrating relatives’ release from prison but not their academic or professional achievements.
  • “This is a poverty mindset. If you’re showing little kids that their cousin is getting a party thrown when he come home from prison... but his cousin that just graduated from college, no party, no love, no celebration.” (41:00)
• Calls for a culture shift: uplift intelligence, skilled trades, and academic success as “cool.”

5. Anti-Intellectualism and the Black Renaissance

• Warns against rising anti-intellectualism and black illiteracy, pushing for a “Renaissance” centering Afro-futurism and innovation in Black art.
• Stresses need for Black professionals in all fields: doctors, engineers, teachers, and especially trades (48:00–50:10)
• “If we can’t feed ourselves and we can’t fix our own problems, we’ll never be free.” (49:40)

6. Faith, Trauma, and Black Liberation History

• Deante’ details his own spiritual path, including feeling judged by the church and needing to “deconstruct” out of fear-based religion (19:03).
• Ties in the historical use of the Bible as a tool of slave obedience, juxtaposed with figures like Nat Turner and Harriet Tubman as sources for Black resilience (19:50).
  • On Black leadership: “I’m more like Jesus than you is, nigga.” (19:03)

7. Listener Calls & Advice

a) Finding Leadership in Adversity (53:11)

• Young listener (19) asks for advice on navigating adulthood and self-leadership amidst life challenges.
• Advice: Give yourself permission to make mistakes, seek mentorship, make clear roadmaps for your goals, regulate emotions, and embrace learning from the community.
• “Learning some breathing techniques, giving yourself permission to make mistakes, understanding that you don’t know everything, and not being afraid to admit when you don’t know.” (54:00)

b) Christianity & Black History (58:02)

• Teen listener wrestles with conflict between family’s strict Christianity and knowledge of its usage during slavery.
• Kyle: Christianity’s roots are ancient, not only a tool of oppression—yet he acknowledges manipulation through King James Version and the need for questioning.
• “If you can’t question, you’re in a cult.” (61:44)

c) Black Self-Determination & Community Building (61:48)

• Concern about building new Black communities in America when history shows they’ve been destroyed.
• Response: Need for Black-controlled law enforcement, optimism over fear, commitment to defense, and never giving up.

d) Career Representation in Nutrition (65:02)

• Listener highlights the urgent need for more Black dietitians due to racial disparities and offers application resources.
• Kyle connects poor diet and stress to early deaths of Black entertainers, emphasizing community health literacy (67:31).

e) Advice for Single Moms Raising Black Daughters (68:16)

• Single mom wants guidance on supporting her daughter and Black community.
• Recommendations: History museums, documentaries (“The Black Power Mixtape”), reading Black literature together, and giving each other grace for ongoing learning (71:39).

f) Family Conflict at Major Life Events (73:22–84:44)

• Listener’s father ruins her college graduation by leaving and attempting to pick a fight.
• Advice: Move forward, lean on supportive partners/families, protect your joy by setting boundaries, and do not invite toxic relatives to future celebrations.
• “The grieving of a family member is tough when they're still alive. But you gonna have to do your best to move forward, because without respect, y'all don’t got nothing.” (82:08)

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Memorable Quotes

• On being called the Antichrist:
  “Critical thinking looks demonic when you’re stunted in your faith.” – Deante’ Kyle (32:59)
• On honoring ancestors:
  “Honoring the ancestors is not worship. Honoring the people that came before you is not about worship. I’m not dropping down to my knees and raising my hands to my ancestors, but I will create altars for them that honor them.” (30:55)
• On community and the church:
  “I challenge the church to be more effective than these sinners. When is the church gonna give back?” (35:11)
• On faith and fear:
  “You could be stunted in your faith, especially when that faith is based in fear.” (19:03)
• On Black uplift:
  “It’s about the liberation of Black people always. It’s about creating a better future for our children here in this country.” (22:59)
• On intelligent living:
  “We should make learning cool. We should make intelligence cool. In the rise of anti-intellectualism and in the rise of illiteracy in this country, Black people need to be in the forefront of an intelligent movement.” (42:49)

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Important Timestamps

• Satirical Intro, Discussion of “Lucifer is the Light” – 01:29
• Church money and lack of community services – 15:25
• Detailed critique and vision for Black activism – 17:59
• Fear-based faith and need for critical thinking – 19:03–24:39
• Genealogy and the Bible – 29:10–30:55
• Celebrating failure vs. success in Black communities – 39:50
• Listener call: Leadership in adversity advice – 53:37–56:10
• Listener call: Christianity and Black history – 58:02–61:44
• Black community-building strategies – 61:48–64:50
• Career awareness: Black dietitians and health – 65:02–68:16
• Single mom advice, raising Black girls – 68:16–71:39
• Toxic family and graduation incident – 73:22–84:44

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Tone, Style & Approach

• Playful, Unfiltered, and Satirical: Deante’ Kyle frequently leans into charged criticism using humor, Southern vernacular, and rapid-fire banter.
• Community-Forward: Persistent emphasis on collective action, mutual encouragement, combating poverty mindsets, and pragmatic liberation.
• Direct Calls to Action: Appeals for donations, participation in activism, and efforts to challenge systemic problems with practical steps.

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Noteworthy Moments

• Running joke: Church should be as giving as so-called “sinners”
• Playful banter about food, holidays, and Thanksgiving mac & cheese (50:10)
• Strong advocacy for therapy, self-knowledge, and personal boundaries
• Cultural critiques: Denim Tears’ “cotton wreath” aesthetic rejected for insensitivity, compared to true Afro-futurist art (44:50)

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Final Note

This episode encapsulates Deante’ Kyle’s blend of thought-provoking social critique, cultural celebration, and hard-hitting humor, all aimed at elevating the consciousness and practicality of Black communities. He challenges both religious and secular listeners to be more Christ-like—less judgment, more action, and always for the people.

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If you’re looking for an episode that shatters dogma, embraces community-first activism, and reminds you of the beauty and the struggle of Black liberation—from laughter to hard truths—this is it.

Transcript

[A]

Yeah woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty soul with a dirty mouth my knee orbit miss things things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my bitch no rest fusion she gorgeous as I doubt my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead Tell them we gonna get this money to my POC Morbid remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't got to like a regardless baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me we like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee Flick your cigarette and let a vent.

[B]

Yeah, we back o we back.

[C]

Chris Meg's podcast, episode 94. I'm your host, the Antichrist. Beyonce Kyle. But who's behind the camera?

[D]

This ain't no funeral home.

[B]

This ain't no podcast either.

[D]

Welcome to hell, motherfuckers.

[B]

Big ice cub cat, stop playing with you niggas. Welcome to the Chicken and Grits podcast.

[D]

Chicken and Grits podcast. The hell is she talking about?

[B]

I don't know, man. You know. You know that's that Christian love, ain't it? Yeah. Where? Cause she said my. She said the name of the show wrong on purpose. Yeah, trying to block, you know what I'm saying? Trying to dim our light over here. Trying to dim our light, man, you know what I'm saying? But Lucifer is the light according to the good work, the light bringer. Yeah, according to the scripture, the bringer of light. It's your boy, man. I put my trump 20, 20, 20, 24, you know what I'm saying? My maga suit on.

[D]

Yeah, you real magish over there, my boy.

[B]

You know you only supposed to unbutton when you're sitting down.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[B]

Went and bought a suit just for this.

[D]

Just for this episode.

[B]

Yeah, you know.

[C]

Cause we got to do the knowledge.

[B]

Oh my God.

[E]

Huh?

[C]

Lucifer.

[D]

The Antichrist who did the body.

[C]

Who did the body?

[B]

Wrong with these.

[D]

Wrong with these is crazy, man.

[B]

I ain't going to lie. That little psychosis ain't no ho boy. Religion just psychos.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Deontay Deontay Kyle.com for all booking and inquiries, you know what I'm saying? If you would like to get me at. To speak at your church, just holl.

[C]

At your boy, you know what I'm saying? I'm free every Sunday from about 8pm, 8pm to midnight, you know what I'm saying? I got a Lot of work to do during the day, but know what I'm saying? Trying to tilt into sin. But around 8 o' clock at night, you can catch me, you know what I'm saying? We got a revival.

[D]

Catch us a little Nicky at Popeyes Chicken, baby.

[B]

Yeah, catch us. Catch us at the Popeyes with little Nicky right there on the west side. We right there on the west side. We right there. Huff Marlon Kane right up by Alan Temple. Go to the Popeyes posted up with little Nikki. Post Little Nikki.

[D]

We some real millennials.

[B]

So. Yeah. Deonce and Deontay Kyle for our booking and inquiries advice. Deontay Kyle.com for all your advice. NMM New Music Monday. NMM. Can't wait for y' all to see the new spot. Yeah. Nmmiontekyle.com for all music submissions and supportiontekyle.com if you have any issues getting into the Patreon, if you have any issues accessing discord, if you have any issues with your merch. Supportyontechile.com Now I will say this. Join the Patreon. $8.

[C]

$8 is all it takes to sell your soul, nigga.

[D]

$8.

[B]

Y' all sound like worth. No, but listen. I'm gonna lose whoever believe in Jesus and the Bible and that Patreon is leaving expeditiously.

[D]

I don't think so.

[B]

But why not? Why would. Why wouldn't you stay? You come tired church every week. I can't get a little $8. I can't get a little tired little offering. You know what I'm saying?

[D]

This actually might bring more people to the Patreon.

[C]

It's a hot day in hell, man. Skies is clear. The lake is on fire. Adolf. You know what I'm saying? Joseph Stalin.

[F]

All my.

[B]

Yeah, Leopold.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Bush senior. We got a seat waiting for Ms.

[B]

McConnell and Donald Trump right now.

[C]

Charlie Kirk out there debating. We was trying to get the d', Angelo, but what evidently.

[B]

On the other.

[C]

Side, doing my job. I used to sing in here. I was. I was. I was in charge of the music. I got this d' Angelo up there.

[B]

Singing Brown Sugar to Angel.

[D]

Brown sugar, baby.

[B]

Join that Patreon. It ain't nothing but $8. How much is it, big cat? $8. That's two foe for foes. That's one cheese quesadilla from Taco Bell. Owen, they are upping the score over there at Taco Bell. They are. I would like to say this. If you do join, join from a web browser, okay? Because if you join from your Apple Apple charge you 30%. That's what you see. The 1150. We don't get that extra $3. That should go straight to Apple. So bypass Apple, go to your web browser or use an Android. Sign up for the Patreon. Now, once you signed up, you can log in through your Apple iPhone. Yeah, but if you're gonna sign up, sign up on Safari, Google Chrome, Firefox, sg, something like that. You know what I'm saying? Use a browser. Also, when you log in with the browser, you'll see the benefit tab. That is how you get into the discord. Yeah, but any number, $8Q and A once a month. Q and a, once a month. Stream with the call in feature. 2 bonus episodes. Access to my substack exclusive merch. Exclusive merch only for the cousins. Join the cousin club. You get the discord.

[D]

And what goes down in the discord, too?

[B]

Yeah, it goes down in the discord. And you get early access to all merch, all tickets, all public, public events. Yeah. Any collaborations? We do got a couple collaborations coming up. So go ahead and jump down in that Patreon, bro. Show your boy some love. If you have a problem with your teeth and you're in the Atlanta area, go holler the boys over there, east side dental. The men, them doctors. Go ahead. Them black doctors over there, east side dental. You know what I'm saying? I don't know how they're gonna feel about me plugging they with this on. Sorry, it, man. Devil need good teeth, too.

[D]

Sinners need to smile, too, baby.

[B]

Center has to smile, baby. One would say the most effective thing a center can't do is smile.

[C]

For sure.

[B]

Six, five, seven, two, three, four eggs. That's six, five, seven. Two, three, four. Three, four, four, seven, man. Rest in peace, d'. Angelo.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[B]

Man.

[D]

They hit hard, dog.

[B]

Man, that's tough. I ain't gonna lie.

[D]

They hit hard.

[B]

That's tough. Yeah. You know my entry point into, like, what sexuality really was? Okay. Was that how does it feel Video. Cause I was like, I'm a child, but this is hella sexual.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Nah, this is evoking something. I was just gonna start looking in the mirror, trying to see if I get that.

[D]

Get the V. I want that V. I want that good V. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

The edge of it was built like a dbs.

[B]

Yeah. Action figure singing his ass off, too.

[D]

He just want to know how I feel.

[B]

He just wanted our man.

[D]

He ain't even felt it yet.

[B]

I. I don't even know what he's here for yet top tier 90s. Oh, man. God damn, man. Black top tier R B, black music right there.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Wanna get you wet in between your thirst that nigga was wailing.

[D]

She had son so distraught halfway. Halfway through the song that had short circuit and started screaming and then had.

[B]

To stretch it out.

[D]

He ain't even felt it yet.

[B]

God damn. That nigga was bricked up in that studio, son. Had to be bricked up recording that. Yeah, that's like. What's the song, Shorty? Shorty was damn near having an orgasm on the track. Was it say yes.

[D]

Oh, you got floortree.

[B]

Yeah. You don't remember? Oh, yeah.

[D]

At the end of the song.

[B]

Yeah, she started going crazy. I ain't gonna lie. Neo song, Shorty. The neo song vibe was very sexual. Very sexual, very intelligent. You know what I'm saying? A lot of sexual, intelligent energy going on in there. Shorty having a real orgasm in the booth. I was like, oh, shit.

[D]

Shorty was flicking the bean in the bone.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Flicking that motherfucker hit crazy. Shout out d', Angelo, man. Recipes. D', Angelo, man. Shout out to their child, bro.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

That's tough. Both his parents in one year. Yeah. So prayers up to family of d'. Angelo. Let's. Let's. Let's run through it real quick, man. Cause, you know, bingo card. Bingo, card, belly, belly. Uhhuh. That devil's pie. Killing that sick. But slice the devil's pie. I. I wish. Should we. Nah.

[D]

No.

[B]

Cause demonetized. Demonetized. Nah. We gonna have a. This is what we gonna do. We're gonna do a d' Angelo tribute on Patreon. Let's do it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're just gonna run through it, man. We're having a good time on the Patreon. We can do it tonight when we do the stream. Let's do it. Yeah. I'm ready for it. All right, man. How you feeling, Big Cat?

[D]

I feel good, man. Everything coming together for New Music Mondays. We got the new space. They go enjoy that, man.

[B]

They gonna love it.

[D]

Yeah, they go love it, man. We did a special episode. 100.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Coming soon. I'm gonna get on too much, but we did a special one. That was cool, man.

[B]

I learned a lot.

[D]

That was very.

[B]

It was eye opening, man.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I'm just. I'm proud, bro. Yeah. I'm proud to have been able to do it, but I'm also proud that, like, I just gave him the flow. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Very Appreciative. It's not what people gonna expect but it's gonna be very powerful for. For the black community for sure. And it's a different way of doing this podcast. I want to say this so we know that the government is shut down.

[D]

They are.

[B]

With the government shut down, it's going to affect a lot of branches of the government. So you know, soldiers aren't being paid. Right.

[D]

They getting their money.

[B]

They getting their money.

[D]

They get their money.

[B]

Okay, that's good.

[D]

Soldiers are getting their money.

[B]

They are, yeah. What was the. Wasn't there something going around where they were saying they wasn't.

[D]

They wasn't at first, but I think they signed something where soldiers are getting paid.

[B]

Perfect.

[D]

Cause them folks finna goddamn.

[B]

Yeah. Well also too, you don't wanna piss off your populace of veterans. Cause if anybody gonna really revoke and know how to revoke and strategize and organize, it's gonna be them. But there's now talks about how if the government doesn't resume that it'll affect food stamps in the month of November.

[D]

Oh yeah, for sure. Snapping food stamps.

[B]

Yeah, snapping food stamps. So we're partnering with Jasmine, Jasmine's garden. Not only are we gonna be hosting a Halloween party, but we're also doing a fundraiser for people that might experience food insecurity. We're doing a coat drive and we're asking that people bring non perishables. The plug to that is below. It will be in the description and I will pin it in the comments and I might even put it right here next to my face somewhere on the video. Jasmine is always community forward. Jasmine is always making sure that when she does stuff she puts on for vendors, black vendors, black business owners, food trucks, people that you can sell anything from oil to crystal to hats to health insurance. And she gonna give you a space to do that. So shout out to Jasmine. We'll be partnering with her. You can find the link of where you can donate and we're going to do a 3, 3, 3. So 1/3 of it will go to people who will be impacted by the food insecurity when they. Hopefully they don't. But if they do shut off food stamps for the month of November, it's going to be a lot of people that's going to be depending on that food. It's going to be a lot of babies out here going hungry. We need to make sure we take care of them. A coat drive for the houseless population in Atlanta and non perishables for the houseless population. And for people that are food insecure, we're going to be helping push that. We're going to be fundraising that. If you want to help donate, just donate a dollar. You know what I mean? You know how we get down the power of a dollar? It should be at least 50,000 people watching this. If 50,000 people could give $1, that would be powerful. You know, we could be really. We could really affect change in our local community here in Atlanta. Because there will be a lot of people affected by this if it does happen. And even. Even if it doesn't happen, there's still people who are going to be experiencing food insecurity and there's still people that need coats and non perishables. So we pushing that. So because I'm the Antichrist, okay? I would like to challenge the church to be a more effective in the community. Now let these sinners. Don't let these demon worshipers and these devils outdo you. When it come to looking out for the community. So we gonna be making sure we look out for the people that's experiencing food insecurity. We're gonna be running a coat drive for the homeless population and people who will need it because inclement weather is coming. It's October. It's still a little warm outside. You know what I'm saying? Shout out climate change. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to that good old climate change. Yeah. Cause we deny. Yeah. Cause it's hot. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like in October, it is. You can go. You can go white tee and shorts outside right now, in the pool right now.

[D]

If you want to.

[B]

If you wanted to. Yeah. On a good day, it'd be 80. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's been consistently 80 degrees for the past month. So don't let these centers outdo you, man. You're gonna let the devil outdo you. You're gonna let the devil provide for your community when you could be out there providing and helping. I wanna push the church. Y' all getting all this money. It's a blessing when the pastor show up in a private jet. It's a blessing when the pastor got a monogram Gucci print suit on preaching about prosperity. But the people outside that church ain't prospering. So let's push the church to be more effective in the community and provide for people that's in need. The church rakes in billions of dollars in the community. Ain't no grocery stores. Church rakes in billions of dollars in the community. Ain't no hospitals Ain't no medical offices, ain't no obgyns, ain't no pediatricians, ain't no dentist office. Ain't no banks. Hey, damn. I'd rather bank with God. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'd rather bank with God than Wells Fargo. Shit, Wells Fargo got his birthplace in slavery. Hey, a lot of these banks got started during slavery. You gonna let these sinners outdo you? Don't let the center. Don't. Don't let the sinners. Now, we might. We might get straight away from church, might start doing our job. Y' all want to call me the Antichrist. Listen, man, here's the unfortunate part. For all my religious people, I am constantly advocating for the more downtrodden people in this community. I'm on the side of the LGBTQ people, and I speak positively and I speak life into these people. I'm on the side of these young folks, telling them to get in the trades, telling them to raise their standards of quality, telling these businesses to raise their standard and practices of business. Telling these young people to get in the trades and getting their education and get some upward mobility in their life in a place where they can control. Telling these young people to go for high probability outcomes. Protecting and advocating for our women in this community. Challenging men to change their ways when it comes to being violent, not being able to accept rejection, and stepping up to the plate and being the leaders of the community that we say we are.

[E]

Mm.

[B]

We raised funds for the babies out there in Inglewood. Had a successful fundraiser out there for the babies in Inglewood.

[D]

Yes, we did.

[B]

We're gonna have a successful fundraiser for the people in Atlanta that's experiencing food insecurity. And we doing a coat drive for the homeless. And we not running away, and we not judging these homeless people. Cause we understand that we all want paycheck away from it. I'm telling young men not to put their life and their future and bank all day future on 1% outcomes and being entertainers and athletes and that they can be doctors and engineers. They can be skilled tradesmen. They can effectively change the community with a dollar. We talking about getting people into politics in the right way and being focused on your local politicians in a place where you can actively affect change. We love these babies. We love our women. We love our brothers and sisters. We love our elders. We exalt our elders. We honor our ancestors. I'm more like Jesus than you wiz, nigga.

[D]

Amen.

[B]

Amen. I don't worship Jesus. I follow his blueprint. I honor the Instruction by advocating for these people with my voice by advocating for these people and really being outside. I'm finna go speak at Crim and on Wednesday, the alternative school. So these kids that this system trying to push out and trying to push into prison, I'm finna go and try to exile some change in their life and at least give them a different perspective on life and at least show them that I can relate to them. Because I was just like them, getting kicked out of school and still made something of myself. I'm more like Jesus than you is. Cause we ain't in the church. We in them streets. You hear me? We out there. We outside. You could be stunted in your faith. You could be stunted in your faith, especially when that faith is based in fear. One of the reasons why I had to deconstruct from the church. One of the reasons why I had to step away from the church. I was tired of being scared of God. God's supposed to love me and don't feel like love when I'm feeling judged for every action I make. How Jesus died for my sins and I'm born into sin. Does that make sense? That sounds very contradictory to me, and I ain't here to judge y'. All. I'm a big proponent of a diversity of thought, a diversity of practice in our community. But it is an objective fact that they use that Bible to manipulate us during slavery. Can't read no books. It's actually punishable by death if you get caught reading. But they allow you to read that Bible. They allow you to preach in the presence of a overseer. You gotta be present. This is what Nat Turner's Rebellions was all about. Nat Turner was preaching from that book, but he had to code it in a way where people could understand things. Because he had that overseer sitting right there with him, making sure he ain't rounding folks up to be revolting. They did it anyway. We could honor Nat Turner and his sacrifices for us. We could honor Harriet Tubman. We could honor Frederick Douglass. And we can honor the countless people that are nameless in faces that made sacrifices for us to be in this seat right here and outside of slavery. During the Civil Rights Movement. The Pullman Porter protest. These men in Birmingham, Alabama, that was protesting when they put the rail there. And they was doing all the labor jobs and making the least money, but they was making the shit happen. They the reason that Birmingham exists. Reverend Fred Shuttlesworth, a revolutionary. A revolutionary. They tried to bomb this man plenty of times. Couldn't kill him hard to kill. Pastor the 16th Street Baptist Church where they killed them four little girls at and two more boys died subsequently. We can honor these people. I ain't never said nothing about worshiping these folks. Did I ever say worship? If you go back to the clip, go show me where I said worship. I said honor them. Honor their sacrifices. Show them reverence. Acknowledge them. Acknowledge the people that came before you. We understand that when it's in terms of hip hop, when we tell the young niggas, you need to go back and do your homework so you can be a more effective entertainer, so you can be more effective with the rap because you know the history. When you know your history, oh, you could change things in your present, huh? So we honor Dick Gregory, we honor James Baldwin, we honor Nina Simone. People that use their platform and their voice to not only speak to the black experience, but to affect change in the black community through their various avenues, whether it be in entertainment. Dick Gregory went from comedy straight into politics and was an effective speaker. James Baldwin, too many quotables. A lifetime of quotables. We can agree with what the things that Malcolm X said, and we can honor him. Even if you're not of the Muslim faith, you can agree with the things that Martin Luther King said that, that Reverend Fred Shuttlesworth said and honor them. And you don't have to be of their faith. We need a diversity of thought in our community. We need our community to think different ways so we can come up with better solutions without putting our ideology in front. It's about the liberation of black people always. It's about creating a better future for our children here in this country. The reason why you uncomfortable is because they did all their work and you think the work is done and you don't want to be uncomfortable. But they did their best to undo that work with the war on drugs, school to prison pipeline. No programs focus on ex convicts when they get out to integrate them back into society. But programs and systems rather that cause recidivism. Men that get no say so in their local politics. But you could be stunted in your faith because it's based on what? Fear. So as long as I'm showing up to church, as long as I'm paying my ties, I'm be safe. I'm good with God. But you ain't read that Bible, you ain't read that Bible, you ain't reading that Bible. You talking to somebody and think I was joking when I was with Kevin on stage. They think I was joking about sitting in that living room reading that Bible, smoking a cigarette. I was dead ass.

[D]

No, you was real.

[B]

And, and I wasn't just reading it, trying to find no answers. Just for that day, I was faithfully in my Bible. I needed to know what was going on. I needed something. And I felt like that good word had a word for me. We talk about honoring the ancestors, venerating the ancestors. We ain't talking about nothing about no worship. Y' all say, oh well, Jesus is our ancestor. Okay, that's great. That's great. Jesus was an example through his actions. Do you listen to the words? He also told you not to worship him. He wanted you to follow his actions about how empathetic he was towards society, how empathetic he was for the people that were oppressed, and how radical he was to go against the power structure. Y' all ain't doing none of that. Y' all actually conform to the power structure. And you call it being of the, in the world, but not of the world. So you don't deal with nothing worldly. And this worldly shit is dealing with you. Every day we talk about honoring the ancestors. We ain't say nothing about no worshiping, but that's the way that. But when you don't read, you could be functionally literate, functionally illiterate. You can see words, you can recognize words, you can know what them words say, but you don't know what them words mean. Because how can you hear something come out my mouth and then tell me something different? How can you hear me say something and then apply your own meaning? That that means that you don't have high compress comprehension skills. That mean your comprehension skills are very low. When you take a man words and turn it in what you want it to mean? I ain't never said nothing about no worship. But you worship Jesus, you drink his blood, you eat his flesh first Sunday every month. That's not a little crazy, little spiritual cannibalism, little witchcraft. It's not a little crazy, but I'm the Antichrist.

[D]

Another thing too, son, I never realized. I never like wearing a cross with Jesus on it for jewelry. And I never liked when wore the Jesus piece with the head of Jesus. I thought that was like some demonic. We got the head of Jesus, we conquered. I, I always pictured it that way. That's what niggas was doing.

[B]

Well, you're not supposed to, you're not, you're not supposed to wear graven images. That's a graven image. It's an image of him being crucified. That's like if my. If my mama died from gun violence, so I wear a gun around my neck.

[D]

Yeah, never like that.

[B]

I ain't a fan of that shit neither. But hey, you do what you want to do. Religion is not about Christian. The Christian religion is not about being Christlike. Because if it was about being Christlike, y' all would have had empathy for me. Y' all would have had a conversation with me. Y' all would have cared about the things I was saying. You would have listened to what I was saying and then tried to find some understanding. Somewhere we could meet in the middle. But we ain't never gonna be getting. We ain't never gonna. We ain't never gonna have a forward thinking and progressive black community. When you a Christian, before you black. And how the hell you do that? Where they do that at?

[D]

Cause before you anything, you black, you black.

[B]

I sure hope you can tell the police that you are a Christian and they'll let you rock. The Klan members are Christians. A lot of Aryan brotherhood. A lot of Aryan nation people claim to be Christians. Charlie Kirk claimed to be a Christian, which means you co sign white supremacy with your faith because you put your faith before your race and they always put their race first. What messing with the damn mask? Oh, yeah.

[D]

Stop doing that.

[B]

Oh.

[D]

Take that motherfucker off if it's uncomfortable.

[B]

No, it's just hot, y'. All. You can become stunted in your faith. When you think, I'm gonna get baptized, I'm gonna show up every Sunday, I'm gonna pay my tithes and I'm good. And you ain't studious about that Bible. You ain't studious about that Bible. Mm mm. I talk about honoring the ancestors. Lineage and genealogy is very important in the Bible. Several books talk about lineage and genealogy.

[D]

Speak on it.

[B]

Genesis contains a numbers of lifts, a numerous list of generations, tracing humanity from Adam to Noah and later focusing on patriarchs like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Ruth. Chapter four provides a short genealogy from Perez to David, connecting the events of the book to the royal line of Israel. Okay, Ezra and Nehemiah. These books include genealogies that help establish the identity and claims of people returning from the Babylonian exile in the New Testament. Matthew 1 and 1, verse 17. Genealogy. Genealogy traces Jesus lineage from Abraham through David to Joseph, emphasizing Jesus as a fulfillment of the promise to the Jewish people. Luke 3, 23, 38. Genealogy begins with Jesus and works backward through Joseph to Adam, highlighting his connection to all of humanity. Acts 7. Stephen's speech includes a genealogy that traces a line From Abraham to Joseph, to show God's faithfulness to his covenant people. Genealogy and lineage is very important in the Bible because they want you to know. They want these people to know where they come from. It's not only a way of honoring them. It's a way of historically connecting them to God, to the people of the world, to connection to all humanity. A lot of y' all are okay with what happened in Israel. A lot of y' all are Zionists and Christians. And the most popular Palestinian of all time is. Who?

[D]

Who is he?

[B]

Jesus Christ. There you go, Yeshua. Most popular Palestinian of all time. They dropped bombs in Jesus home. They dropped bombs in Bethlehem. Not a peep. Honoring the ancestors. Honoring the ancestors is not worship. Honoring the people that came before you is not about worship. I'm not dropping down to my knees and raising my hands to my ancestors, but I will create altars for them that honor them. And if you don't believe in shit like that, stop getting your nails done, huh? Don't go back to that nail shop. Because in most nail shops you go into, they have alters for their loved ones that done passed on for they ancestors as a way to honor them and the work that they did and to remember them. They wanted these people to remember where they came from. They wanted them to remember their bloodline and who they was connected to. It was important to them not only as a fulfillment of promises, but as an effective tool to honor those who came before them that was possible for them to fulfill those promises. If you believe in that. The. The.

[C]

The.

[B]

The discussion about me being an antichrist is ignorant, right? Because y' all saying I made a deal. And that video was for December 2024, almost a year ago. But because of social media and how you perceive things, you think that's something I said last week. We could be stunted in our faith. You feel like you checked all the boxes now you ain't got to do no more work, and you're doing all this damn judgment. Oh, y' all think because Deontay Kyle got a podcast and a following and he done took a puff of the devil's lettuce. He done had some divine revelation. Nigga, I don't even smoke weed. Critical thinking looks demonic when you're stunted in your faith. What was you going to say? Nothing.

[D]

I ain't want to get in trouble.

[B]

Christianity is a blood religion, man. It is, and we know that. So because y' all worship blood, y' all think that's what I'm saying? It's a projection. And it's a lack of comprehension skills. You worship blood. I don't. But I am saying the blood that's coursing in your veins and the blood that was spilled on this land and sacrificed for you to be where you are just so you could have a voice. Because if it was 1956, nigga, they have colors only TikTok.

[D]

Jesus Christ.

[B]

Or they say black people can't access the Internet. That's a white only thing. You don't understand how. How profound these people's sacrifices. But I'm the Antichrist. Hey, we gotta stop doing this to black people, bruh.

[D]

Yeah, we do.

[B]

Gotta stop doing this to each other. Every time somebody have a little bit of success, you wanna say nigga, sold they soul. Look, bro, nigga ain't gotta sell they soul. Cause they a solid nigga. Shit, how much is this? If I'm. If I sold my soul, why am I still paying rent? Huh? Why am I driving around 96F150 with a new Seat belt in that? Old seats, new seat belts, and a goddamn Kia Sorento. I saw myself. I'd be in the private jet too. Yeah, passed in the private jet, he ain't sell his soul.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Man of God.

[D]

Man of God.

[B]

Man of God. Ain't this for the community? I challenge the church to be more effective than these sinners. When is the church gonna give back? Why isn't it's always a community center? It's always inaccessible to people that live in the community. There ain't no grocery stores. There ain't no hospitals. There ain't no banks. Church got a damn pool in it. Got a pool. Can't get in the pool if you ain't a part of the church. No grocery stores, no hospitals, no banks. Nowhere for people to eat, nowhere for them to go when they get sick. Nowhere for them to put their money. It's an arm of the system. That blood. That blood. It was the blood. It was the blood.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Coming down in an all red candy paint.

[B]

All right.

[C]

We gonna move on from these niggas.

[B]

Man. Fuck Ice.

[D]

For sure.

[B]

Fuck Ice. Fuck Ice. Fuck Ice. That shit is treason. They kidnapping people off the street. They're kidnapping children. They're kidnapping people's moms and dads. They aunts and they uncles, they cousin. Fuck Ice. They're traitors to this country. I don't know if it's true that they putting hits on them niggas, but I hope it is. Them niggas deserve to be publicly executed. They're treasonous. That shit is scary as hell. No knock warrants. Man got granted asylum, and when he walked out of court. Granted asylum by a judge, walked out of court, got kidnapped by Ice in front of everybody. They do this shit with impunity. Then you got the no Kings parade. It's not a parade.

[D]

It wasn't parade.

[B]

Yeah. Protest. Yeah. Freudian slip. No Kings protest. Big numbers all across the country. Trump posting AI vids of him being a king and dropping shit on the protesters. This is your president. This is what you voted for. That's your boy, Donnie T. Crazy. We having a way in this country, baby. Hey, I mean, we, we, we. Unprecedented times, man. Yeah, unprecedented times. What you feeling, big cat? Before I get into this next thing.

[D]

I'm feeling good, son. You doing your thing right now. The devil is here spreading knowledge. The devil spreading knowledge to the people, baby.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

We trying to keep you niggas informed, let you niggas know what you should expect when you get down here.

[D]

A lot of hot, a lot of steam.

[C]

A lot of steam.

[D]

It's a goddamn charizard flying around right.

[C]

Now, I'm telling you. But we doing the knowledge. You gonna learn a little something.

[B]

Yeah. So we had a conversation. I didn't say what I needed to say. With that on.

[D]

Yeah. God damn, you sweating under that mother.

[B]

I'm telling you. Hold on.

[D]

My boy steaming it.

[B]

Appreciate you, brother. It all right, look, son, look. Good, son. You ready? Good. We. We back. Hey, man. We was having a conversation yesterday about celebrating failure. One of the more prominent examples of this is throwing a party for a relative when they come home from prison, but not acknowledging our kinfos when they come home from college. Now, what that does to the psyche and what that does to the people that surround you, what that does to the children is it shows them that they'll be celebrated for failure but not acknowledged for success. Now, this is a poverty mindset. This is a thing that comes strictly out of impoverished communities. And this is how you keep people in a cycle of impoverished conditions. Because if you're showing little kids that their cousin is getting a party throne from him when he come home from prison, but his cousin that just graduated from college, went back, got his master's, went back, got his doctorate. No party, no love, no celebration. That should be the celebration. We should be celebrating our achievements, not our failures. Actually, when you come home from prison, you shouldn't be acknowledged for that. Welcome back. It is what it is. Fall in line, nigga. Fall in line. We got shit. We already Got going. We understand the system, but we also understand how when you participate in the system, these are the results. These are results. We gotta make being intelligent cool.

[D]

For sure.

[B]

That's gonna start with children. We should encourage our kids to have courage, to be cool and make cool. Being smart, making great decisions, being involved. You know, you should be in an after school program. You should be a part of doing something even if you aren't going to school, that is gonna put, if you're not going to college, still be involved in after school programs or in programs that are run that put you involved in the school cause. That shows you how to participate in society, that shows you how to participate in community. That puts you in spaces where you're going to be amongst people who have strengths that you don't have and weaknesses you don't have and how to collaborate with people. Yeah, we should start ostracizing those of us who participate in criminal activity while leaning in to reforming them. Right now. When I say ostracizing, I'm saying like, what you mean you skipping class, bro? Like, yeah, we ain't doing that. That's terrible. We're going to class. Yeah. Hey, man, teacher asked you to be quiet, bro. Just chill, bro. We trying to learn. You should make learning cool. We should make intelligence cool. And a rise of anti intellectualism and in a rise of illiteracy in this country. Black people need to be in the forefront of an intelligent movement. I keep telling you, we on the brink of a renaissance. I don't know what that looks like, but I know it's artistic. And our art needs to reflect this society. Sometimes black art get a little too lost in the Afrocentricness of it all. And that's great. And there's a space for Afrocentric art. But what about the Afro futuristic art? And what about the surrealism that depicts the times that we live in now?

[E]

Mm.

[B]

I want to see black people's take on surrealism. I want to see Afro futuristic art. Art that imagines the future we could have if we were liberated. I want to see art that's reflective of our current political state in all mediums. Through poetry, through music, through sculpting. Art is extremely important to the intelligence of a community. Reflecting the intelligence of a community. And I ain't talking about no Tremaine Emory putting cotton reefs on a hoodie and calling it denim tears. Nah, nah, nah, I ain't, I ain't rocking with that. You ain't never seen me. You ain't never gonna see me rotting her. Damn Tears, not wearing. Then you try to psychology, you know, make it be all theoretical and ideological about why you put cotton on a goddamn hoodie. Reefs of cotton. I don't care what your reason is. Because the history and the bloodshed that's connected to that cotton. And there's white boys running around wearing that, calling it drip. That, that ain't a concept you can explain to me, that's gonna make that cool to me. Then when they appropriate or disrespect our history in this country and disrespect our contributions, they say, oh well, I got on denim tears though. We gotta make, we gotta create an intelligent movement, right? Atlanta has the highest wealth gap, the largest wealth gap of any other major city here in America. There's a 96% chance that if you're born poor in Atlanta, you will die poor in Atlanta. Why is that? It's because we put all of our celebration and we exalt the entertainment that comes out of Atlanta. That only changes the lives of an individual and the people around him, doesn't change the community. And it actually generates a generation of young people that aspire to be entertainers instead of engineers, that aspire to be entertainers instead of skilled tradesmen, that aspire to be entertainers instead of politicians, politicians from the community that can actively change the community. And because we celebrate people that rap about the degradation of black people, stunting on black people, colorist niggas putting women down, putting men down, putting ourselves down, talks about. The destruction, celebrates. The destruction, celebrates the failure of our community. Then intelligence doesn't seem so cool. The way that you change that wealth gap and the possibility of overcoming poverty here in Atlanta is by putting young people in high probability outcomes like academics. And staying focused on academics, like enrolling in a trade, going to trade school. A community college is still a college, still a college. A vocational degree still is effective, if not more effective and actively participating in the community than a four year or eight year degree. We need both. We need our doctors, we need our lawyers, we need our pediatricians, we need our dentistes, we need, we need our psychologists, our psychiatrists, we need teachers, we need it all. But we also need plumbers, we need H VAC technicians, we need brick masons, we need engineers, we need electricians, we need CDL drivers, we need it all. Because that's how you effectively change someone's up mobility by giving them opportunities that are achievable. And I can call Steve down the street cause something wrong with my ac and Steve ain't gonna charge Me just to show up, man. That's my neighbor. We live in the same community. I'm having an issue with my plumbing. I can call Mike up the street. Cause Mike, master plumber, and it's probably not worth a plumbing company coming out when it's just. Probably you just need to snake that joint out. Or maybe you had a pipe loose. Maybe pipe need to be repaired. Mike can handle that for you. Man, could we offering the same community. I need Vanessa. They got the garden in our backyard to show me how to garden on my land. Agriculture is extremely important to our liberation. If we can't feed ourselves and we can't fix our own problems, we'll never be free. So cancel Christmas, boycott Black Friday. And if they give you them stamps, use them stamps for Thanksgiving.

[D]

Yeah, we want that Mac and cheese.

[B]

I want that Mac.

[D]

Yeah. I want that Mac, baby.

[B]

I want that Mac.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I want that Mac touching that yam.

[D]

Yeah, gotta have it.

[B]

I want that. Put that Mac down and then drizzle that yam juice on top of it. I wanna go to sleep.

[D]

I want to damn near go into a coma, baby.

[B]

I want this to put me out. You know what I mean?

[D]

I want to be struggling on my fourth weight.

[B]

Fourth. Not the way I'm going to have that first one stacked the up. Not the way I had that first one stacked up, baby. That first one. B stack. Rex on Rex on Rex. I f. Rex on Rex. You hear me? We got some. We got some good advice, though. We're gonna be right back. We're gonna do this advice. All right? We back. All right, man. Let's get into this advice, man. We're gonna take some of these voicemails first.

[E]

Yo, what's the word? Big ice cub cat and my man Deontay Kyle. What is the word? What is the word? Sorry if you hear a bunch of noise in the background. I am outside right now. I had to take a walk, clear. Clear my mind. And I'm gonna make it short because I know some people be coming up on here tone telling all day business, even though they know it's the Internet. But just some. Just some real general advice from some 2, 2, 2, 2 OGs in the space that have seen a lot, done a lot. How in your guys's time when. When y' all have, you know, face adversity and have. And I face, you know, certain. Certain things.

[F]

How.

[E]

How did y' all pull out that leadership out of your guys's heart and brain and soul? Because I'm. I'm 19, you know, I'm young. I tapped in with the podcast to try to elevate my mind on certain things and try to. And try to, you know, put forth, you know, what, one good foot forward with certain things in my life. But, you know, I've had a couple of job opportunities in my way, you know, a couple modeling jobs hit my way, and just certain good things happening in my life, but also there's a couple negative things that are trying to drag me down from person to person, to. To spiritually, to. To, you know, just. Just. Just the whole bag. So I'm really curious, and I don't even know if I need to bring out the leadership out myself. I don't even know if that's the right word, but that's the only thing that comes to mind. Praying. But if you guys had any of. Just. Just some. Just some good general advice of someone who's. Who's. Who's trying to go into that real businessman, real adult turning point in their life. How can I stay, like, efficient? And how can I. How can I drag that out of myself before it's too late? And not. Not saying too late, like, like, you know, if I figured out in my 30s, I would be too bad. But, you know, like, like, you know, if I could just figure it out now, later. I mean, so. Yeah, I appreciate y', all, man. Please, please, keep going. Y', all, y', all, y'.

[F]

All.

[E]

Y' all are my revolutionaries, for real. Y', all, my. Y' all and y' all boys. My, My Fred Henson, my. My Huey P. Newton. You know what I'm saying? So on the real, though, I appreciate y' all so much, man. I love y' all boys. Please, please, please keep doing what y' all doing.

[B]

We like you too young.

[D]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

The thing is, is that when you. When you're young, the stress of trying to figure everything out will have you in a very. In a disarray.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And you. You want to be able to regulate your emotions or your feelings to create a clear, concise plan not only of priorities, but goals. So the first thing is always getting yourself centered, like learning some breathing techniques, giving yourself permission to make mistakes, understanding that you don't know everything, and not being afraid to admit when you don't know. Seeking sage advice from people that you trust, but also applying that advice in real time. I think one of the biggest things is when I go to a source that I trust, I consider their advice and the parts that I really know that are significant. I apply. You don't have to come up with everything on your own. That's a big part of being community forward, too, is taking and applying advice. You know, you can hear anybody out, but if you're not gonna apply it, it ain't really gonna mean nothing. Creating a pathway for yourself, or not even a pathway, a roadmap of what are your goals, what are the big goals? And then what's the first goal that you have to accomplish to get to the second goal? And then around that first goal, creating a list of priorities from A to B, you know what I'm saying? On down the line, what is the number one thing? Get. Get. Get into the details of life. Get into the details of things, because that's where the work happens. Anybody can have a great idea, a great plan, but the thing is, is the who, what, when, where and how, how you gonna make it happen? Who you gonna make it happen with? What are you trying to make happen, how you gonna make it happen? And what effect is this gonna have on your life? And what effect is this is gonna have on not only accomplishing goal one, but leading you into goal two? So just have a clear and concise plan. Give yourself permission to make mistakes. Learn how to regulate yourself emotionally. You know, get back centered. What you got for him? Big cats.

[D]

Give yourself some grace, dog. You're 19, got your head on straight. So that means you're making the first step right there. You got your head on straight. You wanna go into a positive direction. I would say just give yourself some grace, you know, pray about it. Always pray about it. And then, you know, you'll know what to do when the time comes.

[C]

You'll be right.

[B]

Yeah, you dragging it down. Oh, my.

[D]

Oh, my bad. That's me. Oh, that's me.

[B]

What's wrong with me? What the going on?

[D]

That's my bad, son.

[B]

Yeah, my fault. Yeah.

[D]

Let me lean up real quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And sit back.

[B]

Now. You. You absolutely right, man. See what else we talking about over here.

[E]

Yo, Deontay, what's up? Oh, Big Ice Cup Cat. What's going y', all, man, I support y' all every day. I love what y' all doing for the community. I watch our videos every day. I don't watch all your episodes. I'll be sitting here waiting for y' all boys to drop a new episode where I'll be seeing it. But nah, I just wanted to talk like you've been getting a bunch of backlash on Tick Tock for what you said about Christianity. And, you know, I'm only 19. You feel me? So I ain't, you know, I ain't been here for too long. I'm only 19. I come from a very Christianity background to me. All my grandparents, you know, they all in the church, heavy aunties, uncles, everybody. But I never really gravitated towards it. Only because I asked, I guess you could say, logical questions like, simple as. Like, you know, where does this come from? And if you look at it from history books, Christianity was forced upon our people in slavery time. So it's like, it's. Damn it, like, now you feel me? Like, why would I believe in that? Like, why. Why would I choose to believe in that when I know how it originated and infiltrated its way into our culture? You feel me? Like, I just. Yeah, I don't know, but I just want to throw my little opinion out on that. But I really support what you're doing, bro. Continue doing what y' all doing. Love watching y'. All. Yeah. Hope I'll be good. Stay safe.

[C]

William.

[B]

Brother.

[C]

Sounds like to me you on the right path.

[B]

No, seriously, the thing is, is that Christianity was not introduced to Africans through. Through slavery. Christianity, at least the story of Christ is age old. One of the first mono monolithic spiritual practices on this earth. And the way that it becomes a religion outside of it being a cult, it goes from cult to religion through the amount of people that practice. So the reality is, is that the oldest book in the world is in Ethiopia. That's correct. I think I believe it to be Ethiopia. What you trying. What you saying? The original Bible. Oh, the Bible.

[D]

Ethiopian. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So this idea of a Christ is this idea of Christ existing comedic societies as well. So it exists. The story of Christ has existed throughout multiple cultures across the world, across the globe before a more recent revision of it being about Jesus and that version of it in that version of the Bible, the King James Bible specifically, was used to manipulate black people during slavery. Was saying things like, slaves, obey your masters. You know, these type of manipulations and manipulations of scripture that will create a docile and obedient class of people, create a slave class. So you write about that, but you have to also understand that black people brought their own spiritual practices over here with them. Voodoo, the hoodoo religion uses the practice. Spiritual practice of hoodoo utilizes the Bible for root work for certain spiritual practices. Same thing with voodoo. So we have our own spiritual practices, but the Christian religion here in America is used to manipulate black people. But it's also been a source of power for black people. And you can't deny that As a fact, either the church is paramount and a cornerstone of our civil rights achievements. It was a gathering place. It was a place of communion. And we endured a lot in this country by being able to have the church and by being able to put our faith in something outside of ourselves. And I think that that's a very powerful thing. I think the other side of that is it will create a docile type approach to handling the things that the world could throw at you. And it will almost make it not your responsibility to deal with the people who carry out violence on you, and you'll let God deal with them. But the people who told you that your riches were stored up in heaven were simultaneously having their riches here on earth, and that's the manipulation. So we appreciate you, young brother, for reaching out and continue on your spiritual journey. Continue to question. If you can't question, you're in a cult. 1.

[F]

Good afternoon. Peace and blessings. Peace and blessings. I have a legitimate question. So I heard the brother who was speaking about 40 acres, which is amazing. But my concern is this. Throughout the lens of history, we've had the colonizers, white people, crackers, whatever you want to call them, destroy our communities in our towns that we've built schools, grocery stores, and everything else. And they destroyed it. So why would we build another community in America if we know that it's prone?

[B]

Because we can't give up and because we know we can. Now, we need to look at what was done. First of all, if you're gonna have your own community, then you have to have your own police. That's a big part of it. And we can reimagine what a police force looks like. And I understand your concern, sister. You have very valid concerns. But those type of actions, by destroying our community, the point of it was to ensure that we never did it again. They don't like us in the free market, because when we're in the free market, they can't compete with us. But by having us constantly consuming from their market, they can utilize our money for their benefit. Right, because we don't have a dollar circulating in our community for very long. So I think that there is an understanding of addressing the fear behind it being destroyed. But we also have to talk about what we have to gain. And we also have to take measures to protect. Always take measures to protect. That is why I'm a big proponent of Naga, a big proponent of the Second Amendment and people getting strapped. Because if your enemy got guns, you gotta have guns, too. Because if your enemy got guns, and you only got words. Your enemy gonna tell you what the rules is. So we can't live in fear and we can't live in a perpetual pessimism. We have to be optimistic and we have to be faithful. And we have to also, like, put our value in our work and put our value in the possibilities of a future here in America. Because also, I don't believe that colonized people or oppressed people should flee to a place of freedom because the only power that they can recreate is the power that was pushed against them. You see this a lot with Cubans. They come over here and they perpetuate the same thing they flee, they fled from. So we have to be optimistic, we have to be steadfast in our efforts, and we have to be willing to take risk in order for rewards. All right, let's go ahead. Navigating a field with no diversity. What's up, Deontay and big Kumbaye cat?

[D]

The Kumbaya coffee shop come down and get you a tequila matcha, pumpkin spice doucet, and the favorite classic Courvoisier latte.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Little whipped cream on top, baby.

[B]

Get you right little nutmeg. Yeah. You hear what I mean?

[D]

Christmas coming up, baby, little eggnog for you.

[B]

First and foremost, thank you for doing the knowledge and keeping the community laughing. The megaphone sends Me Every roughly 15% of all registered dietitians in the nation are people of color. Only 2.9% of all registered dietitians are black. Less than 10% of all registered dietitians are men. Clearly there is a calling for more diversity in the field. I think the path is more accessible than other healthcare professions because you don't need to attend medical school. You are required to get a master's degree, but there are accelerated programs, accelerated programs that only take one year or some that combine your bachelor's and master's. The day to day in the field is vastly different, including clinical, sports, community education, private practice, and so on. Food is the focal point of connection. That's a major component to health. So I just want to bring awareness to the issue and maybe inspire others. So if you're thinking about a career path you want to be in the medical field, you should look into being a dietitian. I am currently in the process of graduate school applications, so I'm asking for the prayers and best wishes of my Grisenaeus cousins. After I bag this master's in public health, I will be writing back with straight action. Cooking classes, nutrition literacy courses, cost effective shopping techniques, and new research, finding and whatever else my community needs. Below I've attached some great resources for people who are curious about my profession and as well as a research project I'm in which I am the presenting author on. Again, thank you, thank you, thank you. Christine's podcast. Thank you. And we will plug those resources shout out to shout it from Tennessee State University class of 2026. Oh, yeah. Now this is very important. The main I asked myself again, you know, rest in peace to d'. Angelo. But I asked myself, what is it about our entertainers where they die so young, where these white entertainers did drugs and drank? Real rock star lifestyle their whole life and they still be 70 years old out here doing it? I think it all got come down to stress and diet for sure.

[D]

No, stress and diet for sure.

[B]

And I think it's the diet more than anything. So we need dietitians in our community. We need people that can teach us how to eat, what to eat and what cooking techniques we can use to have a, you know, more longevity and a more positive quality of living. Yeah. Because me and Big Cat, we. The Fat Boy podcast, you know.

[D]

Yeah, baby.

[B]

The Fried Chicken and Grits Podcast, baby.

[D]

Need to get down to that. Sell it Salad and Salmon podcast.

[B]

God Damn Water podcast. Yeah, you hear me? The Beetroot and Juice podcast.

[D]

The Detox podcast, baby.

[B]

Let's take a call from Kev on stage.

[D]

Oh, Kev want to be from Chicago in Atlanta so bad, bro.

[B]

I didn't mean to do that. Hey, but okay, all right. I got sidetracked. My bad, y'. All. I, I don't know why I did. I just like forgot what was recording. But I'm just trying to return that call. Advice for moms. Hey, y'. All, I want to say I love you guys so much and you are inspiring me to do knowledge. 30 year old single mom to be. Oh yeah, to be is crazy. Single mom to be is an insane sentence. No, she said, I'm a 30 year old single mom to a 12 year old girl. We have overcome so many obstacles. I'm proud to say we're doing well for ourselves and I truly feel blessed in today's climate. My daughter is involved in sports. I was able to earn my degree and we're both actively in therapy. Shout out. Hey, man, hold on. If you in therapy right now, go in that bitch and trauma dump on your therapist. Their problems. No, your problems. Your problems are their problems as of right now. Why? I don't think she's fully, fully appreciated. Why? I don't think she fully appreciates it yet. I make sure she checks in biweekly, even if that's just for 10 minutes. With all that being said, I know it's my responsibility to teach her about our history and help her stay aware of what's happening in the world. Is there anything you would advise single moms to do? I want to do my part in society, but I'm still learning myself. What can we as black mothers do to support and keep our community safe and thriving? Man, listen, God damn it, you're doing it. Listen, what haven't black mothers. I'm telling you, let's talk about that. Let's talk about what haven't black mothers do to keep our communities thriving. It's up to men to keep it safe, but black women are be on the front line and keeping it safe, too.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You'Re doing it. You got your baby in therapy. I think, you know, just find a smooth entry point into talking. I took my kids to the Civil Rights Museum. I think that that's an important place to start. Civil Rights Museum in Birmingham. But you live in the DMV area. I'm pretty sure there are civil rights museums out there, especially in a place like Richmond, Virginia, somewhere in Maryland. You know, just research. Just do some research. Museums are a great entry point because they have the history laid out for you, and y' all can walk through it, talk through it, and learn together. Documentaries are great. The Black power mixtape is a great documentary that discusses the civil rights movement and on for. And then, you know, you just work your way back, man. You work your way back, but you're doing an amazing job. You're doing an amazing job.

[D]

Salute to you.

[B]

If books. If y' all are both readers, avid readers, y' all should find books that y' all can read together. You know, I always suggest autobiographies first. Read literature from a womanist. Read literature from, you know, Zora Neale Hurston, Toni Morrison, you know, Audre Lorde, James Baldwin. And then, you know, work your way back, man. Just consume yourselves. You know, consume as much black media and literature and history and documentary and film as you can together. Y' all will be learning together. And she'll have some questions that maybe you can't answer, but you'll have some questions that she might have the answers to. Never know how this thing can work out, baby. Think. Appreciate you, mom, though. Shout out to you. All right, now. This is a terrible transition because we go from a great mom to a terrible dad. Oh, my Debbie. Dad ruined my college Graduation.

[D]

Jesus.

[B]

God damn it. Look at the beautiful couple. Goddamn shaving, man. You know what I'm saying? Every time I shave, man, my nose on fire.

[D]

What you shaving with Harry's? You might need to switch it up.

[B]

No, it ain't that, though. It's like.

[D]

You being your nose. You shave your nose, I be.

[B]

I be tweeting.

[D]

You're tweeting? Tweezing. Yeah, you might need to wax it.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I got some extensive nose hair.

[D]

Yeah, you might need to wax that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

Get to this deadbeat fog.

[B]

All right. What's up, Deontay? Big Ice Cup Cat? Before I start, I just wanna say me and my man love your podcast. We appreciate the work y' all are doing as black men for our community and how much positivity you spread. You are needed. Never stop doing what the fuck you're doing because you've changed our lives. You got us doing the knowledge. Nigga, if you're doing the knowledge right now, go in the library and take as many books as you want. Don't even check them out. Their books are your books. As of right now, take one of.

[D]

Them books and slap your dead beat.

[B]

Father with me on me.

[C]

Tell the you gonna come see me. Keep playing. I got that on me.

[B]

Unless it's a black owned library, don't steal out of there.

[D]

Please check them out.

[B]

Please check them out. They need your support. Matter of fact, you should only be going to a black owned library if it's possible. Anyway, let's get to the story. So as the subject suggests, my Debbie dad up my college graduation. Me and my man both graduated from HBCU in Austin, tested Texas together. Me with a business degree and he with education degree. I had serious anxiety going into graduation because my dad's mom is kind of bossy and controlling, but also because when I graduated from high school, it was this whole thing that my dad didn't show up to my grad dinner. For context, both of my parents were are married and have other kids. They were never married. Fast forward to graduation day. We graduate. Obviously you come outside when it's time for photos. I come out and I'm greeted by my man's family and soon find mine. But I don't see my dad and two sisters. They have the same mom and dad. So my grandma tells me, oh, your dad left. Mr. Fredericks, what's up? I just want to put you on notice. I'm doing a podcast right now. You want to say hey to the people. What's up, people? Grits and eggs Worldwide universe. All right, Kev. I just wanted to put you on notice because I love and respect you. You know they calling me the Antichrist on TikTok. No, I didn't know that. Yeah, so I leaned in. I leaned in. Okay, but that's not what I called you for. Why? I seen a video of you half naked singing. How does it feel, my dear? Yo, we all gotta pay homage in our own way. If I was a musician or a singer, I would honor him. I got to do what I do, man. All right, well, I got the Trump 2024 starter kit on right now, so I'm having a union address right now on my podcast. It's hilarious. So you have a great rest of your day. For you, bro. Jesus is the way. He not in the way. He is the way. He is the way. Man, I gotta help you. All right, man. Read it again. All right, thank you, Ray J. Crazy. Yeah. Wow. So my grandma tells me, oh, your dad left. He had to take care of his dog. Don't ask me why. His dumbass brought a whole dog on a trip. Yeah, that's insanity. Dog sitters exist and be black nigga. Put out a big ass bowl of food. Throw that nigga in the back. He's an animal. He's an animal. He'll figure it out. He'll survive. He'll be fine. So at first I'm like, whatever, it doesn't matter. But I briefly did break down and cry on my uncle, his brother, and it was just devastating. We finished taking photos, and now I'm telling everyone, everyone. The restaurant we're meeting at. My grandma tried telling me my dad is back on the way, but I'm completely blowing her off. We show up at the restaurant, we're having a good time. I'm starting to take shots. Oh, it's all around good time. Hey, if you getting drunk right now, going to your local liquor store, ask for the big bottle of Don Julio 1942. Take it and just run out of the liquor store right now. Their liquor is your liquor as of right now.

[E]

Mm.

[B]

My dad and his sisters eventually show up without his wife. I hug my sisters very awkwardly. My dad tells me I look pretty, and I really don't reply. My mom says, hey, sis, come here and take a photo with me and your dad. I say, I'm good. I don't want to take a photo. My grandma immediately jumps up and is like, hey, if you're doing this, we may as well leave. May as well? Shit. You ain't saying shit. Nigga kick rocks, granny.

[D]

You and the damn dog.

[B]

You fuck you and that dog. I brush her off all while my dad is like, pacing and keeps saying, I'm not worried about her. I'm blessed. I don't even worry about it. Weirdo. So I eventually say, be blessed. Then, like, you could really just leave his mom dink this in my face, telling me, I need to sit down. You should be saying this. I'm telling my grandma. You should be saying this to him. My dad goes ballistics, end up trying to literally fight, and over and over tells me, I bet you won't get up, though. He's not getting pushed back by my mom.

[C]

What are you doing?

[B]

You're a loser.

[D]

You're weirdo.

[B]

You weird. Trying to fight your daughter. Yeah. Cause you an. Because you wasn't there, you're not present. Yeah. You try to make everything about yourself that's narcissistic. I end up leaving and spending duration on my grudging nation, not getting up with my man and his family. Shout out to your man.

[D]

Yeah. Shout out to your man. Supporting man. Supporting you. That's what I'm talking about.

[B]

It's a beautiful couple too, man.

[D]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Gorgeous. Yeah. Gorgeous. Gorgeous man. You don't need nobody. You got that man. You got that degree. Yeah. You got your degrees. You think you know every thing. This happened May 10, so I really don't know how to move forward. The process will happen. My dad blocked me on everything. Good. My sister, who I used to talk to every day, now just watches my shit insta TikTok whatever and doesn't react. My grandparents and uncle haven't reached out either. I'm literally having nightmares and everything about the matter, and I'm really hoping for some insight and advice. I'm devastated about how things went and this is get. This isn't getting into depth. My grandparents raised me and always have been. The we did what your dad couldn't type. Overall, just a black girl looking for some insight from the big cousins. I was actually in one of your TikTok lives the other day, and you said hey to us. Attached photo of me and my man graduation. Just cause. Yeah. Hell yeah. We fuck with y' all over here. Listen, man, that man. Yeah. Tried to fight you, bro. I would never. I would never get aggressive with my daughter ever. That's. Wow. It's just a projection out of his own insecurity for not being around for you. You don't have to adhere to that shit. You got. You got your man and his Family and they support you. Seems like y' all are having a very fruitful relationship. Y' all are finna go forward with y' all careers. Y' all finna get the money in. Y'. All. Finn had that upward mobility. Y' all finna be doing the damn thing, and then they gonna come crawling back to you trying to get something out of you when things ain't going right with them. His mama. It's always the boy. It's always the mama to an ain't that got the most to say and do, ain't it?

[D]

She just used to ain't.

[B]

Yeah, his daddy was ancient. Yeah.

[D]

So she just used to it. It's in her lineage. It's in their lineage.

[B]

The history of with ancient. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gonna change that, too. It seemed like your a good. Yeah.

[D]

And he got his degree.

[B]

Yeah, he got his degree. Educator, man. Teaching the youth. Good man right there. Yeah, he's a good man. He better hit that knee soon.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

He better drop down and as soon as he dropped down and get his eagle on. Invite us to the wedding.

[D]

We need to be at the wedding.

[B]

We'll be there. Color commentary. I'll wear this suit. I leave a mask at home. I'm wearing this suit, though.

[D]

We go change the tie color, but.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We ain't going trump. We ain't going trump. We going to change the whole suit. A dark color suit. Maybe a sage green. Ooh, yeah. Something nice. Something nice. Something nice. Something very nice.

[D]

I'm going cranberry. Yeah, yeah, cranberry.

[B]

We got sage and cranberry. Yeah. We deserve to be up there with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we need to be there. I'll be there with some big shades on my face, you know what I'm saying?

[D]

Nice. Stacey Adams.

[B]

Yeah, man. Feet gonna be impeccable.

[D]

I might put a door on.

[B]

You're gonna be okay, though. I think the. The grieving of a family member is tough when they're still alive. But you're gonna have to do your best to move forward, because without respect, y' all don't got nothing. And if they don't respect you enough to realize that this day was supposed to be about you and not them.

[D]

Them and the dog.

[B]

And that dog, too.

[C]

One thing about me.

[B]

I don't even.

[C]

Let no dogs down here. I don't even with dogs.

[B]

A dog.

[C]

All dogs go to heaven, not hell.

[B]

But, yeah, you're gonna be fine, man. You got your man. You got family. You got his familial support, too, you know, hopefully These folks just get a together and stop centering theyself in your times. It's unfortunate that this is a continual thing, but you know, going forward, when you want to celebrate yourself, just don't invite. Don't invite them. Yeah, let them miss out. You know, they want to watch and not react. Let them watch and not react to that too.

[D]

Let them watch.

[B]

Don't even invite them to the wedding because they're gonna try to make that about themselves too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm telling you right now, if you listening to me right now, do not invite them niggas to your wedding. Unless you want to have a wedding where you crying. Fuck them. Your wedding is for you. And evidently every time something is about you, they make it about them. And that won't be no different. Do not INV them to your wedding.

[D]

But if you do invite them to your wedding and they get out of.

[B]

Control, me and Big Cat going to beat them the up. Keeping that a beam with you right now.

[D]

Stumping out at the wedding.

[B]

Yeah, I'm, I'm. I'mma bring my dog bite. Everybody just a pit running loose in the way. Yeah, yeah. Cheesecake biting the. Out of biting in the wed. We.

[D]

Whooping ass in the back of the wedding.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We definitely, definitely jumping on your daddy.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Hit that with a ball to push granny down.

[D]

Yeah, we gonna push granny on the ground. Move out the way.

[B]

All right. Shout out to your man and his family. Yeah. And shout out to you. I appreciate y' all support and listening. I hope we didn't lose you with the. With the devil. I hope everybody understood the satire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That I'm dressed up like Trump, but I'm the devil. I'm just trying to be a successful podcaster, man. That's all.

[D]

That's it.

[B]

Evidently you have to sell your soul. You gotta say you soul to be. You know, been doing. Doing this two years. Heavy. Yeah. Just doing our thing.

[D]

Consistently.

[B]

Consistently. But we're the devil. We're the devil. God damn. We're devil. Because we consistent and you ain't. Yeah, you just showing up to church. We actually having it. Remember that ass hoe? Yeah, that was a little crazy. Wow. I'm sorry. I apologize. I don't want to stoop the other level. Remember that child of God, my sister? Remember that sister? Yeah.

[C]

When you get down here, just know we going to welcome you with open arms. We got you. We got a seat waiting on you. You and the ancestors you said was down here burning in hell. We Got a seat waiting on you. They up there.

[B]

They went to the big house. Yeah.

[D]

You.

[B]

You my sister. We got a nice hot plate of chicken and grits waiting on you right now like a fire.

[D]

Nice Tabasco sauce waiting on you.

[B]

Oh, baby. It's gonna be spicy. Big cat, how you feeling, man?

[D]

I feel good, son. We had a great episode. This episode, man.

[B]

What episode we on? Episode 94. 94.

[D]

We're coming along, man. Episode 94. I'm glad you. I'm glad you know that.

[B]

That.

[D]

That type of stuff in that get to you, man. And you able to joke about it. But that's who we are, though.

[B]

Yeah, man. You know, we don't let that real life.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. I've been through real life. We actually outside. We came a long way, man. You know, we've been knowing each other for a long time, so I ain't surprised at it.

[B]

Yeah, man, if you ever was to like saying your aunt saying my ancestors is burning the hell.

[D]

That's crazy.

[B]

Wild state. Yeah. This is a wild thing. Yeah, but what for what they thought. I mean, because do you understand that when you die, you become an ancestor. That means you're going to. To hell by your logic. Yeah. Either way, fuck you. But bless you, you know. Bless your heart. Yeah. Bless your heart, sister. Sister R. This has been episode 94. Oh, Chris. And a podcast. I'm your host, Deontay Kyle, aka the Antichrist. But who's behind the camera?

[D]

Big Ice Cub Cat.

[B]

657234 X 657-234-3447 Deontay at Deontay Kyle for booking and inquiries adviceyontechyle.com for advice NMM For New Music Monday submissions NMMTE kyle.com Support Deontay kyle.com For any issues that you may have. Go to Grits in eggs for all the merch. Grits in eggs. That's grits. N e G G S G R I T S N e g g s.com for all the merch. We're gonna play that in the front too. Until next week, man. You know, there's never a right time to say goodbye, so we're gonna let soul do it.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

It's just hip hop. It's just. You know what I'm saying? It's just rats, man. Turn me up, man. It's just rap. I just want to rap, you know. I just want to rap, man. Yeah.

[G]

They say without the proper labor, faith don't stand a chance. I put my faith in faith and stand on fertile land. I planted seeds that'll indeed turn into trees before rest in peace teas get printed of me unless impeded. Matter of fact that got me thinking back when Mr. Love was tending to his garden schooling me to annuity before he grabbed his clubs to go golfing. And it's no coincidence that don't still had the caddy back when woods were still the best. Don't let me roll off course here Georgie. Pops was dropping gems while I was lighting cigs. But you know, I too was listening with both ears. You see, that's the best that I can do. Wisdom is the application of knowledge. I was picking up what he was putting down just wasn't applying it. I ain't denying it. Nah, maybe I was too busy trying to find the balance between religion and science. Trying to get to the bottom of everything while being the highest like a pilot's roots. Am I right brother? Cuz I was simultaneously relaying it through reason and rhyming that I sought for us dissecting systems responsible for our imprisonment the visionary with astigmatism in scar cord than yes, if love is blind then what am I? You can't fight faith.

[B]

That's why so.