Episode 101 - Vee-Jitsu

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast: Episode 101 – “Vee-Jitsu” Host: Deante’ Kyle
Co-host: Big Ice Cup Cat
Date: November 18, 2025

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of Grits and Eggs is Deante’ Kyle “raw and unfiltered,” as he and co-host Big Ice Cup Cat riff on everything from Black pop culture and community events to fashion debates, current events, conspiracy theories, and listener questions. They bring their signature Southern humor and candor, addressing both serious topics like Black creativity in media, societal classism, international politics, and even rumors and relationships—all while plugging community initiatives and sharing advice.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Announcements, Updates, and Show News

[00:48–03:38]

• Plugging all ways to get in touch: bookings, advice, New Music Monday, Patreon ($8).
• Banter about fast food prices, health, and walking more due to high cholesterol.
• Recap of the “art stroll” on Peter Street, Atlanta; shoutouts to Black artists and the importance of supporting Black art.
• Upcoming shows: Friendsgiving, potential bonus/no-late-night show to keep the message strong.
• Community Giveback: Grits and Eggs supporting a turkey drive in Douglasville, Georgia (Nov 23).
  • “We donated some funds to help get the turkeys. But this is not our event... We're just supporting.” – Deante’ Kyle [06:21]

Memorable Quote:

• “I think I’m gonna have to sit down for the night.” – Deante’ Kyle, on needing a break from the busy social circuit [03:32]

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2. Live Shows, Structure & The Heart of the Podcast

[07:52–09:10]

• Reflecting on growth and the unique energy of live shows.
• Desire to perfect the live experience, stay on time, and make each show count.

Notable Moment:

• “As we do more live shows, the more we gonna perfect that... The thing I really want to really perfect…” – Deante’ Kyle [08:03]

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3. Black Fashion & Internal Classism

[09:23–12:39]

• Ongoing debates about “streetwear” vs. “elegant” fashion among Black people.
• Critique of elitism in the community, defending the value of all Black fashion trends.
• Warning against divisiveness: streetwear made fashion pop; looking “upper crust” in a quarter zip doesn’t make you better.
• Reminder that clothing doesn't insulate Black people from racism.
  • “We don’t need any more tactics of division, okay? We don’t have to play these games...” – Deante’ Kyle [11:05]

Key Insight:

• “Motherfuckers ain’t gonna treat you no better just because you dress like them... both can exist.” – Deante’ Kyle [12:41]

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4. Black Creativity and the Struggle for Promotion

[13:00–23:13]

• Review of “The Vince Staples Show,” discussing its themes of Black celebrity and surveillance.
• Silence around new Black media (e.g., Eddie Murphy’s “Being Eddie” documentary).
• Systemic lack of marketing for Black-led projects—Hollywood gives a budget for production, not promotion.
• Emphasis on the power of organic, community-driven support:
  • “Hollywood will put a budget behind a Black project just to not market it, so they can say Black projects don’t sell. We know time and time again Black projects have broken barriers.” – Deante’ Kyle [17:13]
  • Cites “Sennas” and Ryan Coogler as examples of successful organic rollouts.
  • Calls for influencers to support Black art for free to ensure success and open doors for future creatives.

Memorable Quote:

• “By [a Black show] being successful and getting renewed... it makes the possibility of your show being a thing.” – Deante’ Kyle [19:05]

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5. Conspiracies, Corruption, and American Hypocrisy

[27:02–37:40]

• Discussion on political hypocrisy: Trump, Clinton, Epstein, Mossad, and sex trafficking.
• Warnings about elite circles—abuse, blackmail, and global cover-ups.
• Questions U.S. loyalty and funding to Israel—is it about control and secret-keeping?
  • “You don’t think about just Trump... You have to think about how big the network is, how many people are implicated in this.” – Deante’ Kyle [31:11]
• Broaching taboo topics, emphasizes that child sexual abuse must be called out plainly.

Notable Quote:

• “The worst case is... they’re actually like, pedophiles, bruh.” – Deante’ Kyle [30:00]

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6. Slavery, Genocide, & Economic Blackouts

[37:40–47:03]

• Explains the ongoing genocide and slave trade in Sudan, funded by the UAE; criticizes U.S. indifference.
• Draws connections between global Black suffering and Black American economic decisions: calls for an “economic blackout” from Nov 25–Dec 2—no spending at major retailers, support small & Black-owned businesses instead.
  • “You don’t lose anything by not spending anything. And if you do decide to spend your money, be mindful where you spend that dollar.” – Deante’ Kyle [39:29]

Key Moment:

• “This is about us creating a tradition around consumerism and masking it as a holiday.” – Deante’ Kyle [37:50]

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7. Systemic Poverty, Welfare, and Verdicts on Bootstrap Mentality

[47:03–51:10]

• On SNAP benefits/cuts and American government cruelty.
• Argues everyone should have access to food/housing: the system is rigged for wealth to flow ever upward.
  • “If you live in this country, you should eat. If you live in this country, you should have access to healthcare.” – Deante’ Kyle [65:57]
• Rants on misplaced blame among working class—urges looking “up, not down.”

Standout Rant:

• “They got their boot on your motherfucking head... pressing it into the concrete, and you trying to turn around while your head is being smashed, so you can lick... the bottom of the boot.” – Deante’ Kyle [50:47]

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8. Advice & Listener Submissions

[51:10–93:49]

a) Platform Growth & Reaching Black Audiences

Caller: Larry the Sociologist

• Struggles to reach intended audience (curious Black folks) despite algorithm pushing content to White viewers.
• Deante’ emphasizes intention, patience, and repetition:
  • “Keep putting it out and just trust that with your intention, it’s gonna find its intended audience.” [52:52]

b) Career Advice: Tired Car Salesman to Tech/Trades

Caller: Meek

• Considering tech to provide better for family; Big Cat and Deante’ encourage a smooth, safe transition and offer help connecting to trades if needed.

c) Gen Z College Crisis

Caller: 19 y/o listener

• Burned out, uncertain about staying in college vs. family obligations.
• “Don’t give up. You’re 19… You’ll be all right.” – Big Ice Cup Cat [61:58]
• Deante’ encourages self-inventory, authenticity, and making choices for oneself—not for others' approval [61:59–66:53].

d) Relationship Residue: Bond with Ex’s Niece

Caller: Houston Partner

• Grapples with codependency, lingering feelings after breakup, and a bond with ex's niece.
• Deante’ is blunt: “That shit is over. And everything that came along with it is over too.” [73:02]
• Big cat: “He’s just trying to babysit his way into... the good graces.” [74:32]

e) “Wait until Marriage?” – Sudden Celibacy after Years Together

Caller: 22 y/o man, 6-year relationship

• Girlfriend suddenly wants to abstain until marriage.
• Panel speculates it's more about security (seeking a commitment) than faith.
  • “This may be a tactic of manipulation... to get you to marry her.” – Deante’ Kyle [78:37]
  • “Common law. Yeah, pretty much common law.” – Big Ice Cup Cat [77:19]

f) Vee-Jitsu: Arming the Community

Caller: Greg, martial artist in Delaware

• Wishes to train and organize Black leftists in self-defense, boxing, bladed/armed combat (Vee-Jitsu).
• Deante’ and Big Cat comically riff on the deadliness of Vee-Jitsu, marveling at its origins (“Why would you take that to the Bronx!” [88:44])—but ultimately endorse the idea.
  • “If you want to be dangerous and do the knowledge, get that V Jitsu going. Go to Delaware...” – Deante’ Kyle [91:13]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If you work in this country, if you exist in this fucking country, you should eat.” – Deante’ Kyle [65:57]
• “I want freshly. We trying to be around.” – Deante’ Kyle [02:35]
• “You looking side to side and you looking down when you need to be looking up.” – Deante’ Kyle [50:57]
• “You moving a little reckless out here, you know what I’m saying? You kind of lucky that the nigga don’t give a fuck about his daughter because he could have just gave you a fucked up tattoo.” – Deante’ Kyle [72:25]
• [On Vee-Jitsu’s deadliness] “I want a roundhouse kick a ... then back out at the same time.” – Big Ice Cup Cat [87:09]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening banter, show news & restaurant prices: 00:48–03:20
• Art stroll, Black art/Atlanta scene: 03:38–05:10
• Live show reflection: 08:02–08:49
• Fashion, class, and internal Black debates: 09:23–12:39
• Black creativity in Hollywood, organic marketing: 13:00–23:13
• Conspiracies (Epstein, Trump, political hypocrisy): 27:02–37:40
• International news & economic blackout: 37:40–47:03
• Wealth gap rant, SNAP, welfare, bootlickers: 47:03–51:10
• Larry the Sociologist, platform advice: 51:10–52:52
• Career question (car salesman considering tech): 56:05–58:46
• Gen Z college crisis: 59:07–66:53
• Relationship w/ ex's niece, boundaries: 68:39–74:44
• Waiting until marriage, sudden celibacy: 76:07–83:32
• “Vee-Jitsu” and self-defense for the community: 85:18–93:49

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Overall Tone & Style

True to form, Deante’ and Big Ice Cup Cat keep things “raw and unfiltered,” oscillating between hard-hitting critique, heartfelt community concern, and hilarious, animated riffing (“I got a hot one to my gut! Nigga Sav taught me that teep. Bing!” [85:57]). Audience engagement is high, with call-ins providing a window into diverse Black life experiences—each met with real talk, roast, and practical wisdom.

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For listeners and readers alike, this episode is a vibrant mix of Black community love, weary disgust with systemic injustice, unapologetically honest advice, and plenty of jokes to keep you laughing off the pressure.

Transcript

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty south with a dirty mouth my knee orbit miss things things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my bitch no rest fusion she gorgeous As I dab my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead Tell them we gonna get this money to my pocket Remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't gotta like a regardless baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me we like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee Flick your cigarette and let a vent yeah, we.

Back oh we back. Griss and Eggs podcast. This is episode 101. I am your host, Deontay Kyle. But who's behind the camera?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I go to the bar, I drink a beer, what? One beer, what?

[Deontay Kyle]

Two beers, what? Three beers, what? Four beers, what? Five beers, what? Six beers, what?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

And then I head down to the Kumbaya coffee shop.

[Deontay Kyle]

Big drunk cat. What's up, man?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

What's going on, baby?

[Deontay Kyle]

Deontayantkai.com for all booking and inquiries. Adviceeontekyle.com for all advice. NMM, that's New Music Monday, abbreviated M N M mtekyle.com for all your new Music Monday submissions. Hosted by the host with the most big ice cup cat. Oh, yeah, man. 657234 eggs. That's 657-234-3447 for all your call ins and voicemails. And we just did the stream last night. If you got the number, you can call in and talk to us personally. But there's only one way you can do that. $8. How they do that?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Big K. Sign up to that Patreon, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get on that Patreon. How much is it? $8. Remember, $8, that's two fo. Fo. That's a cheese quesadilla at Taco Bell.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It is.

[Deontay Kyle]

They upping the score on us. They doing too much over there at Taco Bell. I ain't had no business in that line.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Why you was in there?

[Deontay Kyle]

Give me a cantina.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You gotta get your cantina in there.

[Deontay Kyle]

Chicken cantina. Chicken cantina. Little beefy, five layer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It hit the spot.

[Deontay Kyle]

It hit the spot. But I just got my blood work back and my cholesterol is high, so.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

High as a motherfucker.

[Deontay Kyle]

No more, no more. There's gonna be a lot of walking.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, a lot of walking.

[Deontay Kyle]

A lot of juice in my Future. Yeah, yeah. A lot of freshly.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Get that, get that down. Get that down. Get that down.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We trying to be around. Yeah. So that's 657234, eggs deontaykyle.com for all updates. You know, this will be where you. It's a landing page for everything. So our latest episode will be there. How you can listen to it on audio is there. The direct email is there. The Patreon link is there. And if you want to go shop with the merch, you just hit merch and it'll send you to grits and eggs dot com. That's Gritsne. G G s dot com G dash R dash I T S N E G G S dot com for that merchant we back. What's up, man?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

What's going on?

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm cooling, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Got a lot of things lined up, don't we?

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, look, I'm trying to sit down somewhere.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

The phone just ring for an invite out.

[Deontay Kyle]

You see what I mean? I think I'm gonna have to sit down.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You gotta sit down for the night.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I went to. I went to the art stroll on Peter street the other day. Maya Bailey just did the soft launch. Soft launch for the newly renovated city. City of Ink. Looks great. Okay. Nina Baldwin Gallery had a artist feature in there. I think her name was Kayla. I know her name is Kayla. I don't remember her last name, but she's an artist. And then, you know, down there, the. The Poetry on Peter Original joint. Yeah. Is down there. Yeah. So they had the gallery in there, man. We seen. It's this artist named Tim Short. I don't know what's going through that brother mine. Yeah, he's insane.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Word.

[Deontay Kyle]

His art is so fire, bro. So fire. So shout out to all the artists that had pieces out there. Shout out to the artists who I bought a piece from. You know, support the black art community.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Show the love. Huh? Bought you a piece.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shorty had the Ken vs Chun Li street Fighter in front of the Waffle House.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, no, you.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta get it. I had to buy that.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, I gotta get that.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't need that. I couldn't let somebody else walk out with that facts, you know what I'm saying? What's up? Calling, clearly. But yeah, so we did that. And that was. That was a smooth little vibe there. Two hours out of there. Got back to the crib. Yeah. But I don't know if I want to be outside tonight.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I mean, there's A lot of heavy hitters in the building.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's gonna be some heavy hitters in there. But man, you know, this won't be the last invitation. You right. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No, you right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Sold out shows coming up. We gotta prepare for. Yeah. Friendsgiving show coming up. New York show coming up. We're not gonna add. They wanted to add a bonus show, but I don't think we're doing that. So.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

We're not doing. We're not doing the late night.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, we ain't.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

We're just doing the.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Because the show ended at 11. Yeah. God damn. And then they want to start the next show at like 11:45. I'm cool. Listen. Yeah, that's. Wow, that's a crazy turnaround. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also like, it's very message based podcast. It's like I want to do. Dilute the message. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I can't do that.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to drink. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I'm trying to get drunk in Brooklyn.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm trying to go out. Yeah. Experience the Brooklyn night.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Trying to have a great time.

[Deontay Kyle]

Trying to have a good time.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

And then I gotta turn around and be back in Atlanta early in the morning.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because you got a house. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Then two days after that, we got host Monolio. Hey, so if you're going to be at Monolio's show in the Heaven Room at the Masquerade, you and Big Hat will be your host with the most. And we're going to double back and host the show at the Tabernacle in February. We doing our thing. The host boys.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, we hosting. We hosting. We hosting.

[Deontay Kyle]

Big Ice Cup. I don't know if Jasmine wants this announced or not.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I don't think so.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not yet. All right.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No, we ain't going to do it right now, cuz she ain't said nothing about it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, we a. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you are around on around Thanksgiving. I'm not. I'm not doing this. But I am supporting this turkey drive. We were doing a turkey giveaway. It'll be November 23rd at 11am It'll be Syndicate Barbershop, 3000 Chapel Hill Road in Douglasville, Georgia. They're giving away turkeys and canned goods. We donated some funds to help get the turkeys. But this is not our event. This is by Self Made Cool and. And the Wire. Oh, no. The Vibe. Self Made Cool and the Vibe presents Thanksgiving turkey giveaway. So the wire sprinkle bell A1 giving out turkey, son Marlo. Said the Wire. If you like more information, call 470-702-5872. This is Self Made Cool and the vibe put together Turkey Giveaway. So we, we, you know, Grizzly Podcast has donated some funds. Y' all know, Self Made Cool. He does the intro to the podcast, but this is not event we're sponsoring. We're just supporting, you know, I mean, we're supporting, you know, people gonna need food for those who will still be celebrating the holidays or people that just need something to eat because it will be the holidays. You know, give back to the community in any way we can. We always giving back. So that'll be that. Other than that, man, you know, very calm week.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Very calm week.

[Deontay Kyle]

We had an off week. We was off kind of. Yeah, kinda, you know, we gave him double dip. We double dipped. We went granny. Then we went live show. People really enjoyed that live show recording.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

They did.

[Deontay Kyle]

I enjoyed doing it. And I think, you know, the thing is, as we do more live shows, the more we gonna perfect that it gets me. I feel like as far as the run of the podcast is concerned, how it's structured, the topics we cover, we got this down pack, you know what I'm saying? I ain't saying we could just phone it in, but we know, you know what I'm saying, what this going to be. They know what to expect. But I think that at the end of the day, like the live show, that's the thing I really want to really perfect, you know what I mean? I think these next two shows, I got some ideas want to infuse into it, make it better, but, you know, just, we gotta stay within the timeframe. So. I can't wait to see y' all at the Friends giving show. This shit is gonna be. That's next week.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I'm ready. Sunday the 23rd.

[Deontay Kyle]

Damn, it's fast approaching. Yeah, well, we'll see y' all Sunday. Yeah, we'll see y' all on Sunday. I will tell y' all what y' all can expect, but you got. You already gonna be there, so. Yeah, we gonna have a good time. What you got on HR Clothier? All right. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Looking real dapper.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Real sophisticated.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not a quarter zip.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Not that shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Every few months, we cycle through this idea of, like, elitism, classism in the black community, where we try to downplay street wear and. And, you know, upsell elegance in the form of fashion. So the quarters it with the suit and tie underneath it and some slacks and some loafers.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

And now you, you know, now you Uppercrest.

[Deontay Kyle]

And while. Listen, the guys, Y' all look amazing.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No, you look good.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, we had the whole thing going on. It was the, the polo.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Talking about our era.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, no, remember the polo collab with. I don't remember the name, but it was like this very famous. Oh, oh, black community. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

They're talking about.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. So that conversation was about showing love to people who grew up in a different class. Just cause you grew up in a different class doesn't mean you better than. It doesn't mean that you gotta put other people down, other black people down. Because this is a country where black people are black. You know, your experience with white supremacy may be ease. You may have an ease of experience with a little bit more money, but it doesn't negate you from the perils of white supremacy and the things that they can inflict with you psychologically, socially, you know, the different complications that come with moving around in this country. Black, no matter what class you are. And when it comes to stuff like that, is important for us to remember that we don't need any more tactics of division, okay? We don't have to play these games by saying, oh, it's not. It's a quarter zip. It's not a Nike tech. And calling Nike techs ghetto and shit like that. You're downplaying an entire sector of the black community that made streetwear popular. For one that has brought fashion forward and cycled through fashion time and time again. So this may be your everyday wear, you may go Carlton every day. But you got to also understand that in our community, late 80s, early 90s, mid mid 2010, from 2009 to about 2012 and now it may be a resurgence of that. Black people have always kind of cycled through these trends of fashion. And the quarter zip with the polo top or the cordycet with the suit and tie, this is nothing new, okay? What we would call like casual wear, right? Or I guess, you know, a black dandyism esque in elegance. This is nothing new, you know, it's new to you, it's not new to the community. And it doesn't need to be a conversation about being better than. You know, there's not an above and below thing. The through line is blackness and both can exist. Those who wear street wear, they wear street wear is fine. It doesn't make you less than and it doesn't Mean you would. Should aspire to more if that's what you come to wearing. You comfortable wearing. You know, they'll say these same things like suits and ties, you know, you know, nigga Steve Jobs walking around Harvard campus barefoot.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So it's like, these are things that we only see we do with each other, especially when it comes to clothes. And like an outward portrayal of wealth, we put a lot of stock into how we show up in the world. And sadly, when it comes to the rest of society, the clothing is not reflective of treatment. Motherfuckers ain't gonna treat you no better just because you dress like them or you dressed in what's deemed as elegant and classy. You have to always remember what your position is and that both can exist. Okay? And you should want to be able to live in a place where you can switch it up if you want to. Right. If you do go, you know, quarter zip, Monday through Friday, it'll feel good to be on. Throw that Nike tech on on a Saturday and not be judged. If we keep applying behavior to clothing, then we're just gonna continually put ourselves in boxes that we don't necessarily belong in. Fashion is fashion. Right? You know what I mean? It's not reflective of anything. You know, there's a lot of niggas outside in 2009 getting beat out. They Polo. There's a lot of niggas doing some beating up in Polo. It was motherfuckers out here that was in Polo that had straight A's. It's motherfuckers out here in Polo that'll pull a weapon on you. So it ain't really the clothes. It's the mindset and the mentality of the person and also they circumstances and also understanding what trends are, right? So you adapt to this. And you also have to understand that the. The con. Pay attention to the comments and pay attention specifically to the comments from white people trying to big you up. Try to make it like, I seen something today like, oh, welcome to. Welcome to a higher society, nigga. What? That's what I'm saying. Y' all gotta be careful. Gotta be careful. Gotta be careful when you're trying to put other people down over clothing. Okay? It doesn't have to turn into that. You should be proud of your style. You should be proud of the clothes that you put on your back. But you should also take pride in your community and not try to separate or segregate yourself, because there ain't no better than or worse than. Just ask O.J. speaking of O.J. vince Staple Show. Okay. That show right there, man, it's a good show. You know, you're going to naturally get the comparisons to Atlanta because it's black surrealism. Yeah. But I think that there's a conversation being had about black celebrity. Specifically the episode where he was in the social club, which was framed as like a big house. You know, that's what they was basically referring to as the big house, as a plantation. It's a social club for the black elite. Right. But once you get in it, you can't escape it. And then instead of it being servants of color waiting on you hand and foot, it's all white people and they calling you king and queen and all these things, basically massaging the ego but surveilling you. It's not really about servitude. It's about surveillance. It's about keeping an eye on you. It's about making sure you're compliant to this. And Vince went into this situation understanding that something was off about it, not wanting to be a part of the quote, unquote, black elite because he understood that regardless of how high we rise in society, there's always going to be white people trying to keep their eye on us and control our behavior. And the way that they control the behavior is by putting the icon status on black people while keeping an eye on them. Very deep show. Love that show. Won't spoil too much of it. I do want to talk about this, though. So. There's a lot of black shows that are coming out that we're not aware of the. That are. Aaron. Right. There's a lot of things I would say. You know, I didn't hear anything about being Eddie.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Murphy documentary. Y I didn't hear any promotion of it. I didn't see anybody talking about it. And I just discovered it and I was like, man, now this is a documentary and it's a straight to Netflix. So whatever the case may be, is Eddie Murphy. He's iconic. The documentary was amazing.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think the biggest takeaway you could take away from that is like, explore all of your creative talents. And it doesn't matter if people are watching. It doesn't matter if it makes you money. If you're pulled to do something creatively, go after that creation with full enthusiasm. Right. Get that energy out. You know what I mean? Get that expression out no matter what the medium is. So you can't call Eddie an actor. You can't call him a comedian. You can't call him, you know, just a stand up comic you know, you can't just say he's a musician. It's never just this one thing. Cause he's also a writer, he's also a producer. He's also. He's a multi hyphenate creative. But the thing is, is that he expressed himself in a multitude of different ways where you can't just box him into one thing. He also did. He broke a lot of barriers for people in black Hollywood. You know what I mean? Like, Boomerang was something we had never before seen. We had never seen like a black romance comedy that wasn't rooted in, like, trauma and, you know, poverty and shit like that. This was a. This was like middle class, upper class, working black people and like firms. It wasn't a lot of white people involved in that film at all. And he got a lot of criticism for that at the time. But it changed the scope of how black people showed up in media. And I want to talk about how influencers, entertainers and black celebrities alike can usher in organic growth to the shows that we're putting out and promoting. Because I feel like Hollywood will put a budget behind a black project just to not market it. So they can say that black projects don't sell. When we know time and time again black projects have broken barriers and boundaries and records. You know, you've seen it with centers this year, and that was due to the organic growth that it received online. Yes, they marketed it well. I'm pretty sure they put the marketing budget behind it. And they wanted to be a success because of how much money they invested. They did a great rollout with Ryan Coogler, constantly talking about the project, showing the behind the scenes of how the project was made, the uniqueness of how he shot it. But because of how excited we were about it as black people, it pushed the growth of it organically. And we could do that literally with every black project that comes out. Jordan Peele, he's dropping a black cowboy documentary and a documentary about how the cowboy is black. Yeah. You know, even the terminal. Yeah. It has racial undertones. It's a derogatory statement. You have cattlemen and then you have cowboys and black men. Revolutionary revolutionized the cowboy. You know what I mean? They were so proficient at what they were doing that it made other motherfuckers think that being a cowboy was cool. Again, we do this time and time again. You take a derogatory term and you turn it into something that people want to be aligned with. And now every time you see a story about a cowboy looking at A white man, but it's derogatory term, right? So he wants to bring the prestige and the history of the black cowboy, the original cowboy, back to the forefront and tell those stories. And I don't see a lot of people talking about it, probably because a lot of people don't know about it. And if we had voices like mine, voices like other podcasts, entertainers, celebrities and influencers alike, promoting this without any need for money, just wanting to see a project that we're putting together be successful, we could bypass the strategy that Hollywood is putting forth by cutting our marketing. I didn't see a lot of marketing for season two of the Vince Staples show, and he was open about not having a big marketing budget, and we could have marketed it for him. And it's not gonna cost us any money. It cost you maybe 60 seconds of your time. Now, if you was to go post a video on Instagram or TikTok, or you was gonna go talk about something on Threads or X, or you was gonna post a video on YouTube, you would talk about the thing that you interested in the most for free. Nobody has to pay you to talk about your interest. Maybe has to pay you to talk about your passions. But you should also equally be as passionate about making sure other black creatives see success in the projects that they're putting forth, because by them being successful, it opens up doorways and pathways for you. It literally blows the door open for you. Jordan Peele has a successful documentary about the black cowboy. And if you want to go back in history and find some other lesser known hidden history about black people that should be prominent and pushed to the forefront, you'll have a leeway because his documentary was successful. If you have a black surrealist idea and you want to see the doors and the pathways open for that outside of Atlanta, you need to go support the Vince Staples show because by his show being successful and getting renewed for a season three, it makes a possibility of your show being a thing. We all creators and we all have ambitions to tell stories, especially when it comes to black actors, black entertainers, black comedians, black celebrities and influencers in general, all are gonna have other ambitions outside of what they're doing now. You know, I have ambitions outside of podcasting that I wanna be a writer and director of films and tell stories that I hadn't seen before. And if the Vince Staples show isn't successful, that might close a few doors for me. If the Jordan Peele documentary is not successful, that's going to close a few doors for me. But if it is successful, it's going to open up doors for everybody. And you want your stories to be told. And we should do this in solidarity with one another, understanding the marketing machine that we're up against, where they will give you the budget to make the project, but they won't give you the budget to let people know that the project exists. They won't give you the budget of marketing.

[Caller Meek]

And.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it's up to us to create the marketing campaign for black projects and get black people excited about seeing themselves on film in an elegant way and stories that are told in a beautiful way and high production quality and actually bringing value and adding conversation and texture to our culture from different perspectives of people who go through this black experience as black Americans. And it's up to us, you know, we can promote and we can promote these projects organically without the need for the Hollywood money and almost guarantee that our projects will be successful by doing this. It's. It's. It's thousands of black celebrities and influencers with millions of followers, right? Yes, it's thousands more with 500,000 followers or better. And a one day or two day campaign where we say, hey, we pushing the button. I know y' all got group chats and shit. Mm. Y' all know it's easy to reach out to me on Instagram. It's easy to reach out to each other on Instagram if you'll open it. If we was all just say, okay, Thursday and Friday, like this. This project, this project dropped on Monday, Saturday and Sunday, we making posts about it. We bringing attention to it immediately. So Monday morning, everybody go tap in with it. This project coming out on Friday. Now, music is a little bit more subjective. You know, I don't see that working for music, because music is all about taste. Film is about storytelling. And we need our stories told and we need our stories taught correctly. And sometimes the things that keep our stories from being told in the right ways is a lack of budgeting and a lack of funding and independent fundraising works. But, man, go use these white people money, usually white folks, and they money, man, spend it. Yeah, they use us. Shit, use their money and then double it. You don't think cougar gonna eat off sinners for the rest of his life?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Rest of his life.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's gonna eat off of it forever. I think that. I think, you know, I would hate to say owe it, because I know how rigid you niggas are in your ways of thinking, but I say we owe it to each other to try to push each other Forward. This doesn't have to be a competition. We don't have to be black icons and sit in massa's house, you know, with the spoils of success being liquored up and drunked up and entertaining oozing out of our ears. You know what I'm saying? And as much food as the eyes can imagine and stay safe and stay comfortable and feel like we made it. We need to push forward, to make sure other people make it behind us and honestly make sure that they have an easier entry point than we had and see more success than us. So when we start talking about elitism, we can't play that elitist game. That's not our game to play. That's the game they play. That's what whiteness is. That's how they get people to do away with their culture, to assimilate into whiteness, I. E. The Polish, I. E. The Jewish, I. E. The Italians. That is the Irish. Doing away with your heritage and your cultural traditions to exist under this umbrella, in this facade of whiteness. It's up to us to push forth and promote our blackness and our black stories being told. And not only being told, but being a success in their storytelling. Trying to get some of that Trump.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It ain't no fun if the homies can't have none. Guess who's back in. I ain't gonna sing the lyrics, but.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I'm not gonna sing the lyrics.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No, I'm not gonna sing the lyrics.

[Deontay Kyle]

Big Cat. Hey, What a. What a timeline we've jumped into. Yeah, we got Tucker Carlson and Margie Taylor Greene and. And. And all these other former neo Nazi ass niggas trying to act like they allies to the rest of the world now. Yeah, because they're on a sinking ship or they sitting in a burning house. And the thing is, is that I want to continually push for the Epstein files to be released. We need to know what's going on. Mm. Okay. But some emails got released. Oh, boy. Oh, my. And Trump shows y' all that he's the true heir to the Trump name. It ain't Tiana. It's Donald Baby. The big dj T. Real throat goat.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I gotta find Boba.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man. Damn, Bill, bro. Bill, that dick done seen some things.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Bill just slinging dick everywhere.

[Deontay Kyle]

He don't care. You can't trust a white man from Arkansas, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He freaked out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bill freaked out, man. Getting hit in the Oval Office. They got in peace for getting some head.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, a lot of head.

[Deontay Kyle]

I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

But he deal with Double trouble. What a hell of a story, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

What a hell of a story, bro. That's just evil. Yeah, that's pure evil. It's not even about. It's not the sexual part that's evil. It's. The thing is like, if Donald Trump is bisexual and all these niggas is bisexual, that's not here or there. Okay. The thing is, it's like, this is what we know. Yeah. So the best case scenario, which, you know, progressive country. Progressive country, first bisexual president, first openly bisexual president. That's a good look for the country. That'll destroy maga. Oh my God, that snake is eating his tail. But my problem is this. If we know about this and we know how shallow we are as a country, and we know how homophobic we are as a country, then we gonna point the finger at the fact that the President was sucking some dick, right? But what's the reality is at the best case, the President is bisexual. What is the worst case scenario? That these niggas are actually like pedophiles, bruh.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That is the worst case.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's the worst case. And, and worser than that, they probably. Where did these children go? Because you know one thing about criminals, they don't like leaving witnesses. So you know, you think about how many children gone missing in America every year. Where are they going? Now the obvious thing is that they're being sold in sex trafficking. But sex trafficking to whom? And then you think about the things that the Epstein files implicate and you think about the stories and what that implicates. Then you think about the fact that 9 times out of 10 these children are being sold to elites. Then you think about, now this is, this is where, this is where niggas YouTube pages start getting taken away and shit.

[Caller Larry the Sociologist]

Okay?

[Deontay Kyle]

This is where just Deontay Kyle just goes into obscurity.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So Jeffrey Epstein was a member of Mossad. Ghislaine Maxwell, father was in a Mossad. Mossad is Israeli intelligence. Right? Now. If you have someone like Elon Musk who can bankroll a presidency basically, and when he was at his odds with Donald Trump, he. He basically said he bought the presidency. You know, it is what it is. It wasn't a fair election. You know what I'm saying? He basically rigged the election. This is what he says out his own mouth. And he also sneak this in and saying some shit about Trump that's in alignment with what this story is about him and Bill Clinton having sexual relations. Right. But there's also a lot of. Suggestions that he Be fucking on young women. And then you start talking about 15 and 16 year olds. And we ain't talking about young women no more. We talking about fucking children, bitch. Like Mexican Kelly talking about. Well, 15 is. That's a child. And we need to say it plain. These niggas are pedophiles. These niggas were fucking children. Then you think about this. You don't think about just Trump, because you can't just think about how deep the rabbit hole goes. You have to think about how big the network is, how many people are implicated in this. And then you think about Epstein being Israeli intelligence and being able to use things that are severely illegal and not only punishable by law, but like the court of public opinion. We ain't fucking with that. And if all you niggas are in on it, all you niggas gotta go, right? So then we think about why we continually sending money to Israel. I like textbook blackmail to me.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Mm. Might be onto something.

[Deontay Kyle]

You want this shit to come out? Where does Snap Money go? Snap Money went to covering up these lies and these secrets. Snap Money probably went to making sure that these files don't come out. Because who has the files? It's the same people that clearly has the country by the nuts. It's the same people that got niggas in New York running for mayor and asking them where they would go on vacation. And everybody just so happened to say Israel. That's odd. Get a little weird. Just gets a little weird. We got grown women referring to children as young women to try to dilute the seriousness of it, to try to talk around it. But they're not young women, they're children. Young women is 20, 21, 15, 16. That's a child. And there ain't no two ways about it. And a lot of these celebrity niggas, late 80s, you know, your Jerry Seinfeld's, your Elvis Presley's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Multitude. Multitude was fucking and marrying children. So then you get. What the support of Israel is really about is protecting their secrets. You give us the money, the files don't come out true. This way I see it. But of course, we only gonna wanna focus on the fact that Trump was up and dick. That don't matter to me at all. That's whatever. That's just a hehe and a ha ha, you know, that's a key for the moment. And we gotta move into like, the more seriousness of this is that, bruh, these niggas are operating fucking pedophile ring. And those things need to come out. And just because Marjorie Taylor Greene decides that now she wants to push for the files to come out, and Tucker Carlson wants to push for the files to come out, we not gonna forget your right wing rhetoric, nigga. You don't get to talk and canoodle with Nazis and then just have a change of heart and now you just want to apologize for it. I don't want to hear that shit. Ain't no apology, ain't no ally shit. You niggas are probably implicated with them and trying to save face. Because it's not just about the people who committed the act. It's about the people who knew the acts and covered it up. Everybody has to be implicated. And we don't know how deep this shit go. And we also don't know how many not only people, but countries this shit touches. Because speaking of different countries, the UAE and the way that they're bankrolling a terrorist organization that are killing thousands and thousands and hundreds of thousands of the Sudanese people torturing the Sudanese people. And it's propping up the economy of the uae. You niggas want to go to Dubai so bad, and as soon as you touch down Dubai, you got African blood on your hands and some of the most beautiful people on the earth. The Sudanese people actively involved in a genocide, actively involved in the slave trade. We need to free Sudan. We was all big and hype about freeing Palestine. And I understand why, because look who you know. The most quiet part of the slave trade is the slave trade that was happening in the other direction. That Middle Eastern slave trade we talk about all the time about how motherfuckers in America became Christians, how black people in America became Christians. And we need to talk also too about how a lot of those Africans became Muslims through the Islamic slave trade. Arab slave trade. Not Islamic, but the Arab slave trade.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Arab slave trade.

[Deontay Kyle]

A lot of those people became Islamic through the Arab slave trade. A very, a very active slave trade. Still to this day, they're torturing the people of Sudan. I've seen some of these videos, some of the sickest shit you ever seen. Because rather than just hanging them by the neck and killing them, hanging by the arms to the point where they hang so long, gravity is just basically rip they arms and rip the ligaments out, torturing these people. So all the, all that wealth that you see in the UAE is funded for with black blood. And we need to bring awareness to that as well. It can't just be. You know, the thing is like the global support doesn't Stop the shit that we complain about like we got it, we got our problems here in America, but we not seeing people actively being murdered and tortured. The way that we see these things happen overseas and people ignore it because the people there are even more dark skinned than us. So they don't see the humanity in these people. And y' all want to take trips to Dubai. So, you know, it's whatever. I just, I think that this is also a big part of the economic blackout that we talk about. The economic blackout from November 25 to December 2, where Black people are just not going to be involving ourselves and supporting these big corporations. When we say canceling Christmas, we say canceling Black Friday. When we say canceling Cyber Monday, we say canceling Thanksgiving. We need to get to the essence of what these holidays have genuinely always meant for us, for the country. It's a time of consumerism. It's a time to get these countries, these companies, a fourth quarter boost before the new fiscal year starts, right? And this is about us and our corporate spending. This is about us and our hyper consumerism. This is about us and creating a tradition around consumerism and masking it as a holiday, giving you time off, but it's time off to spend with your family. And that's the most important part of it. The most important part of these holidays for black people anyway have always been about. These are times that we get to spend with our family. This time we might see your cousins from out of state. This time where you might see your uncles and aunties you ain't seen in a while. Or this time you might travel. And you ain't traveled all year, but you're going to go travel and stay with family. And, and the big part of it is about communion. It's about family. It's not about gifts. And this time specifically, it's about starving. These mega corporations, these mega corporations who are dependent on your consumption for their existence. And then they do shit like poke fun and, and throw jabs at you through the Mariah Carey, you know, commercial. Whereas the elves are going on strike. Who you think they talking about? They hear us, man, these people, they got phones too, they got social media too. And it's important for us to be mindful of the fact that you don't lose anything by not spending anything. And if you do decide to spend your money, be mindful where you spend that dollar. Cause those same toys and those same products that you gonna buy from a Target, from a Walmart, you can find other smaller, you know, family owned businesses, black owned businesses that actually need your money, they actually depend on you like they depend on you now. These big corporations depend on you. But they got niggas on the hamster wheel because they, because they have the capital for convenience. And it might not be as convenient to shop with a black owned or a family owned company, but it's more impactful. It actually, your dollar actually goes a long way and you'll be a little bit more mindful about how and what you spend. And then we have to be a little bit more mindful about what these holidays are and what they represent. I don't care about the pagan aspect of it at all. I care about the corporate aspect of it. I care about the fact that we're propping up their economy in the fourth quarter and we're not receiving anything in return. They cut the snap benefits just for motherfuckers to cave and still get what they want. So not only did they get to fake take food out your mouth, but they still got to make the healthcare cuts and basically ruin healthcare for low and working class people in America. And it's like you're making it even harder if you can have access to healthcare. And you got a lot of people who are gonna go through the month of November and into well into December without food. These is niggas is playing in your face. And just because the government is, isn't shut down anymore doesn't mean that they're righteous because they don't, they, they, they don't know where the snap money is. They don't know where the money is where. It didn't go back into your pocket. And then we get this idea that because you need more it means others need less. You get niggas online talking about people that receive the snap benefits. You get niggas like Mike Epps on the Breakfast Club talking about he glad they cut snap benefits. You talking about a nigga who grew up in Indiana in poverty, ex cokehead, probably grew up on food stamps. It didn't stop you from being successful. It aided you in a time of need. No, if the government has multi billion billion billions of dollars to not only ship overseas and prop up other economies and countries, but to, but to kill, to fund genocides. If they got money for that, they got money to feed you. They got money for health care, they got money for your education. The money is there. And just because you don't qualify for the snap benefits because they basically make it, make you have next to nothing before you can qualify so they can keep you dependent on it and keep all these contingencies on it on whether you can qualify for it or not. No, it doesn't mean that because you don't qualify for that others need less. It means you need more. I think if you're making less than $500,000 a year in this here America, you should have food stamps. You should have an allotment of SNAP benefits given to you every month, regardless of age, gender, parental status, relationship status. It don't matter if the household income isn't more than $500,000. But you can give the CEO $40 million in a part of his package and the lowest worker there qualifies for the SNAP benefits. We have a fucking serious problem going on in America with the wealth distribution. We have a problem with the wealth gap. Why are you increasing the taxes on the people who already can't afford shit? There's no minimum wage job in this country that you can have and afford an apartment. So even if you working. So the problem ain't working. The problem is the purposeful widening of the wealth gap. The biggest wealth transfers we've ever seen in history of this country happening during COVID the rich getting mega rich and the poor into abject poverty. And you got other working class people talking about why motherfuckers shouldn't have food stamps when they should have food stamps too. But they done convinced you that you're not benevolent and you're not worthy of something if it comes in the form of a handout. They've got you equating benefits with handouts. How much of our taxpaying dollars are we handing out to prop up other countries? How many of our taxpaying dollars are we handing out to bailout corporations? So they deserve a handout, but we don't? Because the binary way of thinking, it's a bailout for them, it's a handout for us. No, if you work 40 hours a week, you should have food. If you work 40 hours a week, if, if you work 30 hours a week, if you work 20 hours a week, if you working in this country, if you exist in this fucking country, you should eat. I don't care about the working part. If you live in this country, you should eat. If you live in this country, you should have access to healthcare. If you lived in this country, you should access education. How many fucking idiots grow up with rich parents and get legacy enrollment into these high level Ivy League colleges and don't go on to do shit with the education because they don't need an education because they have Nepotism so they can go fuck off and be a drug addict and, and, and, and, and blow money and waste money and, and, and commit crimes that they never going to see punishment for. And then they wake up one day and decide to get they shit together and boom, they got a job and they starting out making 3, $400,000 a year. No, the game is rigged. It's extremely lopsided. And because you need more, you look at the poorest of the country, the poorest citizens, the people who qualify for that thing that you need too. And because you need more, the way you advocate for it is that they need less. No, they need less. Not them. Them. You looking side to side and you're looking down when you need to be looking up. And they looking down at all times and, and siphoning as much of our fucking benefits as much as the things that give us a quality of life, our basic human needs and necessities. They siphon that from us every day. And you don't have a fucking problem with that. Boot licking ass niggas. They got their boot on your motherfucking head, pressing it into the concrete and you trying to turn around while your head being smashed into the country so you can lick your fucking tongue out and lick the bottom of they boot. Talking about people who have less than you need less, when the reality is you need more. And you shouldn't be ashamed to ask for more. Because they ain't never ashamed to ask for more out of you. There ain't no shame about taxing you more, asking for more. There ain't no shame about raising the rate of retirement, asking more. There ain't no shame around turning a 30 year mortgage into a 50 year mortgage. Ask. Asking for more. They always asking for more. And the people who ain't got shit you think deserve less when you really deserve more. So stop looking side to side, stop looking down and start looking up. Because when you look up, you'll realize how you're getting fucked. We'll be right back after this commercial break. We back. All right, Big Cat. This episode of Grits and Eggs podcast is sponsored by you Matter, the mental health clothing brand rooted in wearable self affirmations, not just for you, but for anyone who sees you use code, grits and X10 at checkout for 10% off, including any ongoing sales. You Matter every day. We back. All right, man, it's time to get into some of these emails and, you know, advice submissions, all that good stuff. Big Cat, let's do it. We're going to start here.

[Caller Larry the Sociologist]

What's good, Deontay? What's good, Big Cat? You know, I, I really appreciate. And with grits and eggs, you know, I really appreciate y' all perspectives. I've been, I think I've been following y' all since tick tock. So, you know, definitely rooting for y'.

[Caller Meek]

All.

[Caller Larry the Sociologist]

But I do have a question and a situation that I need some advice on. I have a platform as well. It's called Larry the Sociologist. You know, check it out, you know what I'm saying? We got a little couple minutes, but I really want to know how to, like, what your advice would be for me to connect this with my intended audience. And that's like basically just a curious black person. You know, I'm saying some. Somebody that's black that enjoys being black and that is just curious about their history, about, you know, I'm saying, society. I do social and political commentary primarily through the lens of edutainment. So, you know, trying to teach people and make them smile at the same time, you know, through skits and shit. Some, most of the time directly talking, but, you know, that's neither here nor there. I, I have realized that, you know, our Caucasian brothers and sisters really, with, you know, my videos and my content and, but, and that's great, you know, appreciate y', all, but y' all not the intended audience at all. So, you know, I really want to know how to like, the algorithms. Be me up. I don't know if you suggest a platform or maybe like a specific, I don't know, outline or whatever. You know, I'm saying just. I would really appreciate your advice on how to reach my target audience and expand my platform in a direction that I want to expand it.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, Brother Larry, you know, the thing is, is like the algorithm is tricky, right? I think that your, your is going to land where it lands. Like, it's really not. You know, I think Keith Lee is in the perfect example of this. Keith Lee is very proud to be black, very proud of his blackness and who he is and where he comes from, and has done a great deal to help black restaurants and get ahead. But he, he, but he, he cares about all working class people and getting their, their restaurants to be successful and to see them as successful entrepreneurs and bringing a fan base and a food base to their restaurant, right? And using his platform wisely by getting these big bands to donate to people when they was in need and things like that. But, you know, his, his content landed where it landed because it's a thing that Encompasses all people. So you may be doing yourself a service by putting it out the way you are and unknowingly affecting people who wouldn't have gotten it before. It's gonna find its audience that it's intended for, as long as you setting that intention when you make it. But I wouldn't get too worried about who it lands on first, because as things grow, they starting to pan out. You know, like my audience started 60% women, 40% men, then it flipped to 60% men, 40% women. And that was kind of easing and finding the balance where I don't have an intention on what gender it reaches. My intention was for it to reach black people and understand that I'm talking to black people right now. My language, the way I posture, where I carry myself, that's going to become very apparent. When you're doing it through edutainment, then it's really about people who consume edutainment. And, you know, maybe you just need to give time, give it time for the audience to catch up with you and not you chase them, you know. You know, if you put out a good product and it's doing well and you. And you stand behind your messaging and you stand behind your intention, behind why you do it, then just keep doing it. And it'll find the audience that. That is there. But you got to keep putting the reps in. You got to keep putting the reps in. You know, if you have a audience of 10,000, you probably won't really see what your demographics are right then and there. Those are just people who are early to it. When you get to around 100,000, that's when you gonna really know where it's landing. And then we should start talking about pivoting. If we still talking about you putting out content from the black sociologist that is only being consumed by white people, then we can start thinking about how to get to your target audience. But I would say for right now, you just keep putting it out and just trust that with your intention, it's gonna find its intended audience. What you got, Big Cat?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Nah, you hit the nail on the head with that one.

[Caller Meek]

Yo, what's up, Deontay and Big Ice Cup Cat. Pretty much my name meek in my 20s. I just got a little question for y'. All. Trying to figure some shit out. For real. I just moved to South Carolina earlier this year. I got an almost two year old daughter. Me and my girl been together a little minute, but I sell cars and been doing this like four years. Shit getting tiring like I'm good at it. But the storm at now, it's just a lot of bullshit. Plus, with a baby, I'm here from 8:40 in the morning till 8 at night. So I've been thinking about getting into tech. Just kind of wanted to see if possibly I knew anybody in the Columbia area that y' all could connect me to. Even. What's that? Rock Hill. I'll even do Rock Hill, Charlotte, Greensboro. I'm honestly open. I'm just trying to. I'm trying to get out of this shit for real. Like, this tire in the money. At least the money at this store is not worth it. And it's like if I'm gonna be gone for my girl and my daughter all day long, I at least want the bread to mean something. You feel me? So just let a know. For real. Like, y' all, like the big cousins I never really had. So I'm open to any suggestions. Appreciate you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, my brother, you know, this is a. Also a symptom of, you know, a poor economy. Trying to sell cars in this economy is just gonna be rough. You know, a lot of people don't have the money just, you know. So I would say, you know, tech is fine, but I don't know anything about the tech space. So if anybody knows anything about the tech space and they want to send in an email and, you know, me possibly put you in contact with this brother, then we can do that. But my bad. Ooh. You know, we in the trade space. You know, we like to do that. So if you ever got questions about trade, you can hit me up directly. I can point you in the direction you need to go. Facts. But, yeah, man, I mean, you know, just. Just make sure that you have an. You know, you have.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got a girl, you got a kid. You can't just jump out the window, make sure your transition out is smooth. You know what I'm saying? Make sure that they ain't gonna. You ain't gonna take no food out they mouth because you. You. You tired of what you got to eat.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You handling business, man. Keep putting food on the table. It's a grind. It's a struggle in your early 20s. It ain't no rush. It's a marathon.

[Deontay Kyle]

It ain't a race.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You go get there.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ain't nobody got it all figured out at that age, bro. But you're doing your thing, bro. Salute to. You being a good dad, too?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, real Stand up, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Stand up, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Caller Gen Z Listener]

Hi. Deontay and big ice cup cat. First off, thank you for your podcast. This is like coming from a Gen z er. I'm 19, and my boyfriend actually put me onto the show. And I really. I really do appreciate what you guys are doing for our culture. As somebody who's young, it's always refreshing to hear somebody older than me who actually makes sense. Anyways, I'm calling for just a word of advice from anyone. Right now. I'm in a really sticky situation to where I feel like I have to choose between my education and, you know, doing what's right by the people around me. And everyone I know is saying, choose education. Choose education. But even with school, I'm kind of like, I'm not doing as best as I thought I would. Like, I was. I was such an overachiever in high school, and now I'm in college. It's not really going the way I intended it, and I don't know if I want to stay or not. I want to get a degree because I know without education, life is going to be a lot harder. But I'm not sure if I should choose to stay or figure things out. Yeah, just a really rough decision. If anybody has any advice or just words of encouragement to, like, keep going, because it's definitely not easy. But I don't just want to, like, be a punk and give up. Anyway, thanks for listening, and again, thank you guys for everything that you've done with the culture thus far. I love this show and.

[Caller Meek]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, little sis. Yeah, yeah. What you got, big cat?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You know, you're 19, you're in college. You're trying to, you know, find your path, and you say you're not achieving as well as you did in high school? I would say you feel the study. What are you studying? Is it something that you really want to do, is something you're really passionate about? Is it something that you can see yourself doing because that's what you want to do, or you're in that field of study because somebody guided you in that direction. Sometimes that can be the downfall in grades and not over achieving as you want to because you don't have the passion for it. You're just going through the motions. So I would say sit back.

[Deontay Kyle]

And.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Just go over some other fields of study, other things that you're passionate about, and see if you can make a career out of it and get an education and go from there. But don't give up. Don't give up. You're 19. You know, it's just hard right now, and you'll be all right. You Just going, you know, you're good.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think more than anything, I think because you were such an overachiever in high school that you may just be experiencing a burnout, which is a natural thing when you're, you know, donating so much energy to this education and so much energy into like learning, you know, the mental energy that you're expand expending is incredible, right? But at the same time, you may be experiencing a burnout because you're at another level that requires so much more from you, right? And the safety net that high school has of still being able to operate as a child with minimal adult responsibility where now is you have all of these responsibilities and it's on you and it could be extremely overwhelming. And you're surrounded by people that are headed down a path that you might not necessarily feel passionate about anymore. And you need to figure out, like Big Cat said, where your passion is and really sit down and do some self reflection and some self inventory about what it is that you want out of this life at 19. And if you don't have that figured out, that's okay. Most of us don't have. I know I ain't have nothing figured out in 19. You understand what I'm saying? A lot of people go to school and realize that that might not be the space for them. And even if it is the space for you, like, you know that you will excel and win in an academic setting. Like Big has said, the field of study may be the thing that you're not in alignment with. And we also have to make sure that we're not doing things for the approval of others because you don't want to be in a position where you're doing this for the approval of parents, for the approval of friends and social groups, and then turn 25 and you, and you in early stages of a career that you know that you don't want to do for the rest of your life because then you're going to look back with resentment and say, I wasted my time. And not only with college education, it's not only just a waste of time, it's a waste of money and you still gotta pay that back. So I mean, you know, hopefully with you being an overachiever in high school, that you're there on an academic scholarship, but the reality is that if it's not in alignment with you now, it won't be in alignment with you in five years and it'll be way out of alignment in 10 years. So you just need to do a space of self Inventory and understand, like, you've gotten yourself this far, Right. It's not a you problem. Right. It may be a systemic problem. It may be a structural issue. You may just not necessarily mesh well with the institution. But these are all things that you have to figure out through self inventory and really asking yourself what you want and what's guiding you outside of the influences of the people around you. Once you figure out those things and what you want for self, the decisions will be a lot easier to make. But also the pressure will be off of you, and the pressure of what decision to make will be off of you and more in so of the pressure to align with what it is that you do want out of this life and the pressure to be successful, which you naturally are gonna be. You know, it's very hard to be an overachiever in high school because of how much social pressure there is. And you were able to withstand that social pressure. And now you're in a space where you're dealing with societal pressure. And it's just a different level of pressure. And it's a pressure that we're all underneath the thumb of every day. So this is not a problem with you. Right. You are a young woman that are experiencing the world in this fullness for your first time. And nobody could blame you for feeling burnt out. Nobody can blame you for feeling uninspired. Nobody can point the finger at you and say it's a you problem is mostly a problem with society and the structure and the system of it all. But you could still be successful in it. Maybe education isn't the route, isn't the route that you want to go, but that's a decision that you're going to have to make and really decide on your own. But also understand, like, the benefits that come from it. And whether those benefits are worth some temporary, you know, strife, or whether you don't feel like it's worth it at all and you ready to go in another direction. But that is ultimately going to be your decision. This is the biggest part of adulthood, is weighing out your options, wading through the stress and making the decision that you feel like is best for you and sticking with it and standing on it. You're gonna be all right.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. And give yourself some grace, man. It's okay to take a time, Take a year off if you need to, take a semester off if you need to. To get your mind right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

And clarity, man, it's okay, you know, you're not a failure if you take some time off. It's okay. You just put it on pause until you figure it out mentally, you know.

[Deontay Kyle]

Absolutely. Damn, baby, what's up? You know she just going through.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was.

[Deontay Kyle]

She was.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

She started to cry with all man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. My little sister. Sister crying.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

God damn it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Big Buddha Deontay. Oh my God. Big Buddha Deontay. Antichrist Kyle and the coolest co host, Big ice cup Cat. It's your Houston partner. A good to see y' all fellas. I'mma need my uncle nearest iced coffee next time I'm in the Kumbaya coffee shop. Hey, uncle nearest gotta kill you. Listen y' all are this gonna be a real.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Let me go put this shit in fruition.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is gonna be a real thing. Yeah. Know what I'm saying? It's going to be a late night coffee shop.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Coffee shop.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, you can just. That's what I'm saying. Late night coffee shop. Look good. Good jazz.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying. Good live music, live instrumentation. But all these coffee based alcoholic beverages.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You can smoke at that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Definitely 100, 100% firewood up in that. My ex and her sister were two black women in their middle to late 20s with an insane codependent dynamic that I got caught in between. We had to babysit her sister's two kids. Oh no. We had to babysit her sister two year old kid. So often lil mama thought I was her daddy. Damn. Jesus. I waited three months to make sure. My girl. Who's your girl? Oh, all right.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

So go back, go back from the beginning. Read it again.

[Deontay Kyle]

My ex. Oh, okay. All right. All right, okay, all right. My ex and her sister were two black women in their mid to late 20s with an insane codependent dynamic that I got caught in between. Lot of words.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Lot of words.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, that's.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He ain't sum it up.

[Deontay Kyle]

He rapped.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, he rapped.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

We had to babysit her sister's 2 year old kids so often that little mama thought I was her daddy. I waited three months to make Shorty my girl. But I had my niece at my house by the sixth or seventh week. I don't know where the village was either. We were going steady. But after eight months, total shot of broker with me citing love don't pay the bills. Even though she was my associate, yo economic equal. And we didn't live together. It took years of therapy with a black man journaling and general realized she simply just wasn't for me. That's her choice and that's okay. But that still didn't negate the anger portion of the grief. Niece's dad is a tattoo artist, and I always wanted the ink. So in an act of spite, I made an appointment and went all the way across town to brag to this Mexican Italian man. I had your daughter at my house eating plantains and watching Enchanto. Okay, what's up with this, man?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Wicked.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think it's called encanto. Tatman has three daughters by three BMs. La Negrita is number two and a project twin. I know the money ain't feeding his daughter because I already fed his daughter. He talk. So he talking about the little girl. He doesn't know her birthday. I guess the sister had a taste for a sloppy enchilada. Jesus Christ. I don't know what advice you.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, what is he getting at?

[Deontay Kyle]

You just mad cause you had to watch this nigga daughter. Like, really, Maddie? You got in a relationship with a girl and you had to watch another nigga baby, and the relationship didn't work out. So, fellas, can I get your opinion on this? Parts of me says I don't owe them loyalty. And that bridge is burnt and collapsed. Long story, but it was the little one that taught me presence over presence. Jesus, shorty. So his. I didn't know. I didn't know how problematic Puss in Boots was until I read it to her one night. X told me her niece adores me during the breakup. But the feeling was mutual. Good to hear from y'. All. Congrats on the success. P.S. beyonce's daddy is from Gaston, Alabama. Asked Granny if she know any of her people. Well, Deanna is actually kin to Beyonce. That's like their cousin. So. Yeah, My Deanna family is like first cousins with them folks they. They know. Yeah, we know them folks. Whatever. I don't like to talk about this because then they feel like you're reaching. Like people not gonna believe you because it's Beyonce, but it's a real thing. Yeah, but look, bro, you. You. You formed a bond with a child.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That happens.

[Deontay Kyle]

That happens. You know what I mean? But it's not your responsibility. Yeah, n. You ain't her daddy. You didn't. You. First of all, you put money in the nigga pocket to tell him that you was feeding his daughter. That's insanity.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That was crazy as hell.

[Deontay Kyle]

You moving a little reckless out here, you know what I'm saying? You kind of lucky that the nigga don't give a fuck about his daughter because he could have just gave you a fucked up tattoo or could have.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Stabbed you to death.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? You're talking to a fucking. A Mexican, Italian. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Really ill tempered.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ill tempered is the best way to describe them. Yeah, yeah. You know, you wiling for respect, you know what I'm saying? Like you're doing a lot. Here's the thing, man. We get in relationships and there's kids involved and you step up and be present for these kids in a space where maybe sometimes the fathers aren't, whether this be a stepchild or a niece or nephew. And you form bonds with these children and you know, that's a natural thing. You know what I mean? You're just a good dude. You know, you want to be a good example. You realize the things that she's lacking and you subconsciously want to make up for that because you understand how important it is to have parents and paternal figures. You don't owe them anything. No, Denise adores you. In two years she'll forget about you. Two years you'll forget about her. She was two years old. Y' all wasn't in a relationship for a long time. I don't really see how an eight month relationship is. Got you thinking like you owe them some loyalty. Y', all. You know, that shit is over. That's the best way I know how to tell you it's over. And everything that came along with it is over too. And you know, this may be a sign that, you know that you, you, you have aspirations and the know how to be a good dad. But the emotional regulation that you're experiencing, how you dealing with this is not the right way to deal with it. Leave leading people on. Okay. Because it's only gonna cause you more problems and complications and ultimately it's just not a good look.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He's just trying to babysit his way into some damn son trying to babysit his way back into that. To the, to the good graces.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, that's not, that's not how that work. God damn. Two in a row. Oh, pop. My back.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Said, oh.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was stretching a little too hard. I was like, oh, I felt a little sharp pain in my balance.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

She started to hurt.

[Deontay Kyle]

He almost got down. Slipped the disc. Stretched a little too. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Stretched this crazy on.

[Deontay Kyle]

On everything. I love that have been the end of the show right there. That shit is in a warning shot, boy. Get up off me. Too much pressure, too much pressure. Too much pressure. What's up, Deontay? Big ice cub cat. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Girl want to wait till marriage. All of a sudden we back.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's what we like to hear.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's hear it. Little mess. Little mess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we do. The knowledge, you get mess. Great balance, you know what I'm saying? We niggas at the heart. At the heart, you know what I'm saying? For sure. Like a little mess, a little gossip, you know what I'm saying? What's up, Deontay? Big Ice Cupcat, shout out to y' all boys. I'm 22 years old. Been with my girl since we was, like, 16. Brother, I already know where this is going.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I already know.

[Deontay Kyle]

I tell you what. I tell you what. I would have broke up with her in 16. Yeah, yeah. Wait till marriage. I don't know. Maybe you grew up in a cult or something. Been with my girl since we was, like, 16. I'm doing good for myself and all, but that's besides the point. My girl came to me with the topic of wait until marriage, and she was like, if you really love me, if you really love someone, you will wait till marriage for them. Mind you, we already been making love to each other. Oh, okay.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, okay. I'm about to say God damn. What? Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause you've been six years in no box. Six years.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No box is crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Six years. No boxes. Insanity.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Y' all already married, to be honest with you. God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Common law. Yeah, pretty much common law. All right, maybe that's ignorant on our behalf, but I ain't no purity type. I ain't no pure. You know what I'm saying? I ain't with that purity. No, no, no, no. Let's get filthy. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Don't give me no purity.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, I don't want.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I want some filth. I want filth in mine.

[Deontay Kyle]

My girl came to me with the topic of waiting till marriage, and she was like, if you really love someone, you will wait till marriage for them. Mind you, we already been making love to each other prior to this conversation. She makes it seem like I'm childish because I don't wait, but it's like stopping because of the Bible, but you don't even really know why you're stopping. I think it's kind of unfair in a way, because you spoil me into making love with you, and now all of a sudden you want it to stop. I'm not on my Christian shit with her, and I'm not gonna do. And I'm going to do some research to see why she would even want to do this. But what do you think, man? Am I being childish or even to her point, what could this even be about? I don't know what this is about. Okay, I will say this. She's bugging.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

She's out of her mind.

[Deontay Kyle]

We're not gonna fuck for six years, and then you say we're gonna wait till marriage. That's crazy work, because this may be. And I'm gonna keep it real. This may be a tactic of manipulation. It may be a tactic to get you to marry her.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Mm.

[Deontay Kyle]

Women care a lot about their security right now. So I'm not gonna shit on her. Right? Women care a lot about her security. Y' all are high school sweethearts. She may want to make sure that this is a forever thing. So basically, the ultimatum is, if you don't marry me, I'm not going to fuck you no more. I don't think it's much deeper than that. Yeah, I don't think. Because. Because. Because if it was a cheating or unfaithful thing, it wouldn't be. Guys, on the topic of marriage, she will find a different angle. This may not even be a super duper Christian thing. She may just want you to marry her. And instead of saying, I want us to get married because y' all are so young, she probably feel like maybe we too young to be talking about this, but you also have been together for six years. Yeah. Now, the thing you need to ask yourself and the thing she need to ask herself is if y' all want to fuck the same person for the rest of your lives. Because this could happen to people where they get together. They've been together for a long time. And then it gets to a point where it's like, damn, I haven't experienced anything or anything else or anybody else. I would not say that her approaching it with an ultimatum. Ultimatum is the healthiest transition into a marriage. I will also say that I think that this is guys under a space of her feeling insecure and not insecure within herself and not insecure with the relationship, but insecure about the security of Yalls future together. Y' all are getting older. You're gonna start going into your careers, and, you know, naturally, y' all are gonna meet different people out in the world. She's obviously ready to rock and lock and load it ready to go. And she probably want to make sure that you on the same page as her. Especially, like, young. You're a young guy. You probably handsome guy, successful. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like you said, you're doing well for yourself, but that's besides the point that. That who got that together a little bit? Like, yeah, I got. That's besides the point.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm trying to fall something.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, she probably want to be no baby mom either.

[Deontay Kyle]

You feel me? You know what I'm saying? Like, y' all getting to the point where y' all going to probably have a kid if you all do keep fucking. So maybe she just wants to make sure that y' all union is sanctified and secure before she move forward with you. Cuz she wants to make sure, like, you know, naturally she 22, you know, she also getting into a space where she like getting a little bit more mature about what she want for her future. And if she wants you to be her husband, it's also like not traditionally the role of the woman to propose to the man. And she don't probably want to proposed the idea of marriage to you directly out of fear that it may scare you off. I don't know what y' all conversations around marriage has been. I will say that at 16, you meet somebody and you still with them at 22. Yeah. Mighty as well. Like, I ain't gonna say might as well, like, in the sense of convenience. I'm saying shout it. Y' all gonna be together.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, together. That's all you know.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's all you know. And from 18 to 22, the college years, y' all stayed together. Shit, I will lock that down, twin. But I think this is more about her and her security within y' all relationship and her wanting to make sure that she didn't waste the last six years of her life thinking she was gonna be with a nigga for the rest of her life that just decided one day he don't wanna be with her no more. Cause n do do that. And also you don't have that wonder and eye. Cause n do do that, especially at a young age. And I think she'd just be thinking about the security of the relationship and security of y' all futures together. So it may be all of a sudden, but there's something deeper going on there where she may be looking at this as an angle. Like, okay, well, I can kind of use this church angle, the Christian angle, to kind of get the outcome that I want. And you know, it's not necessarily honest on her behalf. Because I don't see how you could fuck somebody for six years and then just say, I want to wait until marriage. Yeah. Now, worst case scenario, I'm just playing. I ain't gonna say that. You. You don't do like that. To people. You don't. With people's minds like that. I was just gonna say something to. With your mind, but it's. That's not cute. You know what I'm saying? That's actually very rude.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Man. Take that girl to the courthouse.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it's not rooted. The. That I was gonna say was not rooted in truth at all. It was literally just a. Entertain myself. Right. I'm not gonna do that at your expense.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So you already going through a tough time over. You see what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's wild.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, that's wicked.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's just. That was. For me, that still. That's dark. You know what I was thinking about though? Martial artists in Delaware looking to arm my people. Well, you don't really need to say nothing else. God damn it. Dangerous be our last submission of the day. We're gonna get up out of here. We almost at the 90 minute mark. Hey, Deontay, Big ice cup cat been listening to y' all for maybe a year now. Started seeing some of your reels on YouTube. And Ig appreciate how you've given a lot of my thoughts. So clear voice and let me know I'm not as crazy as sometimes I'm led to believe. Folks around here don't hate white supremacy enough for my liking. And it shows my. You are in good company now because my brother, we hate it. I hate it with our whole chest. My name is Greg. I'm a martial artist living and teaching in Delaware. Although I'm looking to move out to North Carolina with my fiance in the coming years. Okay, okay. At a gym called MVJ Athletics. It's family business started by my father, where we train fighters in boxing and kickboxing. Muay tha competitively. But our namesake is martial arts called modern VJ Jitsu. All right. It's a martial art that isn't just hand to hand, but also teaches you how to use blades, sticks and firearms. Oh, you don't want to get into it with a V jitsu. Get the V jitsu, hit you with a kick and then backed out the pistol on you.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, a roundhouse and then back the pistol out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hold on, son. If I'm into it with a and pink, hit you with a teeth and a. Oh, nigga, teep your ass and man down. Man down. I only get kicked in my chest. I got a hot one to my gut. Nigga Sav taught me that. Tee up Bing. That's the deadliest two hit combo known to man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I think I'm bleeding in my Chest. Like I'm bleeding in my chest, son. Gave a big boot, then a big.45 to the chest is crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now that you're mentioning, I think I'm bleeding in my chest. That's some stupid Hit a. With a. Hit a with a. Oh.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

They don't know how to react.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like. I wish it was a kick. There was a shot. Don't know what to do.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Don't know what to do.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just stuck.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Look at.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh. Hit you deadly combos, man. Oh, my God, man. Black people are amazing. You created some called V Jitsu.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Trying to learn that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I want a roundhouse kick a. Then back out at the same time.

[Deontay Kyle]

The roundhouse into the 38. Yeah. Hit a with the elbow, come back with.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Hit a. Hit a with a bicycle kick in the head with an automatic. Hey, yo.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, my God. All right, what's in the emails? What's the rest of the email? Most dangerous in the state of Massachusetts. He's in Delaware. Even worse. Even worse. What's the population of Delaware?

[Caller Gen Z Listener]

Oh, no.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's so small.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, no.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right. Modern vijitsu mbj. A martial art that isn't just hand to hand, but also teaches you how to use blades, sticks and firearms. It's relatively new martial art. I know. Yeah. Extremely new. It was developed by a Filipino immigrant in New York City, where he taught some of the roughest kids in the Bronx where he lived in order to develop his art. What the fuck kind of rumble in.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

The Bronx shit is this?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo, son, why would you take that to the Bronx of all places? This is called the Boogie Down. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Is getting down already.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You added more ammo.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. You added how to fight.

[Deontay Kyle]

You showing. You showing how to be more dangerous. That's. That's why.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's why the buck 50s went up.

[Deontay Kyle]

In the Bronx because of this. He's teaching how to use the blade. Yeah. Out of there, you gotta got a Jiu Jitsu.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Now you got a scar on your face.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Cause Filipino is now carried on by Robert Evans. Jesus fucking Christ. What the. This is the most diabolical shit of all time. Is now carried on by Robert Evans, who was a former police officer in New York City. God damn. And further so through myself, my father, and our other instructors here at mvj. Sorry for the small history lesson. No, no, no, we needed that, yo. We needed the context. No, he said it's important to make it decision distinction between V Jitsu and Jiu Jitsu as people get them confused. Trust me, brother, we Ain't confused.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

From now on, brother, we're not getting those two confused.

[Deontay Kyle]

I promise you. I promise you, there's no confusion. I'll fight a who know Jiu Jitsu. I'm not fighting against. I'mma tell that brother you have a nice day. You got it, brother. It's like, God damn, I'm already down. Stay down. Stomping shot, stomp, stomp. You know what I'm saying?

[Caller Greg]

It's just hip hop.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's just hip hop. It's just hip hop. Okay. Creating the Bronx.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It's just rats, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Turn me up, man.

[Caller Meek]

It's just raps.

[Deontay Kyle]

I just want to rap. I just want to rap, man. Yeah. I'm gonna finish this nigga's advice. We back. Long story short, I would like to start training leftists. I would like to start training black leftist organizations that are looking to defend themselves in their communities, but I'm not sure if they exist in my area. I wanted to get the word out and get some better organizers involved. So how could we make this into something that gives back and builds our community? I think we just did it.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, I think we just did it, brother.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think we just gave you all the promotion. Yeah. Yeah, nigga. If you want to be dangerous and do the knowledge, get that V Jitsu going. Go to Delaware, nigga. I'll do the V Jitsu, but I know how to get started. Hoping to hear back from you all as well. Oh, her going to hear back from you all as I wanted to get something started before moving to North Carolina with my fiance, where I wanted to continue teaching V Jitsu and arming our brothers and sisters. Brother, if you take that to North Carolina, you're gonna start an overwork. My. Please take it to North Carolina.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You know how many niggas from the.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bronx in North Carolina? You hear me? We've been on beaches. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just hit a. With a spinning back elbow into a.38 special, and he gets spinning back elbow. Glock 45. Is it spinning back 45? It ain't going.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

A hit you with the.

[Deontay Kyle]

With the flip. Flip leg drop to the neck drop a bomb. Oh, y' all trying to fight. All jokes aside, I think that this could be a positive thing. Yeah. Should know how to defend theirself with their hands, their feet, with blades, sticks and firearms, occasionally grenade, bruh. You get a black organization of Black Panther type who know V Jitsu.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

God damn. Yeah. You start turning North Carolina into a small country. Yeah. He's taking over the most dangerous of all time.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He's getting North Carolina and South Carolina together.

[Deontay Kyle]

You feel me? Just Carolina undo the. Yeah. This gonna rewrite the union. Go succeed from the union. Yeah. North Carolina separated. They had their own problem. We back together now. United through beaches.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, son. Just, just. I know that you sent this with all seriousness.

[Caller Larry the Sociologist]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

But you sent it to the wrong.

[Deontay Kyle]

And just like that guy. Yeah.

[Caller Greg]

They say without the proper labor, faith.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don'T stand a chance.

[Caller Greg]

I put my faith in faith and stand on fertile land. I planted seeds, Adeline Deed turning the trees before rest in peace teas get printed to me unless impeded. Matter of fact, that got me thinking back when Mr. Love was tending to his garden, schooling me to annuity before he grabbed his clubs to go golfing. And it's no coincidence that those still had the caddy back when woods were still the best. Don't let me roll off course here, Georgie. Pops was dropping jams while I was lighting cigs. But you know, I too was listening with movies, you see, that's the best that I can do. Wisdom is the application of knowledge. I was picking up what he was putting down, just wasn't applying it. I ain't denying it. Nah, maybe I was too busy trying to find the balance between religion and science. Trying to get to the bottom of everything while being the highest. Like a pilot's roots. Am I right, brother? I was simultaneously relaying it through reason and rhyming that I sought for us dissecting systems responsible for our imprisonment. The visionary with astigmatism and scar Cordias. If love is blind, then what am I? You can't fight faith. That's why.