Grits and Eggs Podcast: Episode 101 – “Vee-Jitsu”
Host: Deante’ Kyle
Co-host: Big Ice Cup Cat
Date: November 18, 2025
Episode Overview
This lively episode of Grits and Eggs is Deante’ Kyle “raw and unfiltered,” as he and co-host Big Ice Cup Cat riff on everything from Black pop culture and community events to fashion debates, current events, conspiracy theories, and listener questions. They bring their signature Southern humor and candor, addressing both serious topics like Black creativity in media, societal classism, international politics, and even rumors and relationships—all while plugging community initiatives and sharing advice.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Announcements, Updates, and Show News
[00:48–03:38]
- Plugging all ways to get in touch: bookings, advice, New Music Monday, Patreon ($8).
- Banter about fast food prices, health, and walking more due to high cholesterol.
- Recap of the “art stroll” on Peter Street, Atlanta; shoutouts to Black artists and the importance of supporting Black art.
- Upcoming shows: Friendsgiving, potential bonus/no-late-night show to keep the message strong.
- Community Giveback: Grits and Eggs supporting a turkey drive in Douglasville, Georgia (Nov 23).
- “We donated some funds to help get the turkeys. But this is not our event... We're just supporting.” – Deante’ Kyle [06:21]
Memorable Quote:
- “I think I’m gonna have to sit down for the night.” – Deante’ Kyle, on needing a break from the busy social circuit [03:32]
2. Live Shows, Structure & The Heart of the Podcast
[07:52–09:10]
- Reflecting on growth and the unique energy of live shows.
- Desire to perfect the live experience, stay on time, and make each show count.
Notable Moment:
- “As we do more live shows, the more we gonna perfect that... The thing I really want to really perfect…” – Deante’ Kyle [08:03]
3. Black Fashion & Internal Classism
[09:23–12:39]
- Ongoing debates about “streetwear” vs. “elegant” fashion among Black people.
- Critique of elitism in the community, defending the value of all Black fashion trends.
- Warning against divisiveness: streetwear made fashion pop; looking “upper crust” in a quarter zip doesn’t make you better.
- Reminder that clothing doesn't insulate Black people from racism.
- “We don’t need any more tactics of division, okay? We don’t have to play these games...” – Deante’ Kyle [11:05]
Key Insight:
- “Motherfuckers ain’t gonna treat you no better just because you dress like them... both can exist.” – Deante’ Kyle [12:41]
4. Black Creativity and the Struggle for Promotion
[13:00–23:13]
- Review of “The Vince Staples Show,” discussing its themes of Black celebrity and surveillance.
- Silence around new Black media (e.g., Eddie Murphy’s “Being Eddie” documentary).
- Systemic lack of marketing for Black-led projects—Hollywood gives a budget for production, not promotion.
- Emphasis on the power of organic, community-driven support:
- “Hollywood will put a budget behind a Black project just to not market it, so they can say Black projects don’t sell. We know time and time again Black projects have broken barriers.” – Deante’ Kyle [17:13]
- Cites “Sennas” and Ryan Coogler as examples of successful organic rollouts.
- Calls for influencers to support Black art for free to ensure success and open doors for future creatives.
Memorable Quote:
- “By [a Black show] being successful and getting renewed... it makes the possibility of your show being a thing.” – Deante’ Kyle [19:05]
5. Conspiracies, Corruption, and American Hypocrisy
[27:02–37:40]
- Discussion on political hypocrisy: Trump, Clinton, Epstein, Mossad, and sex trafficking.
- Warnings about elite circles—abuse, blackmail, and global cover-ups.
- Questions U.S. loyalty and funding to Israel—is it about control and secret-keeping?
- “You don’t think about just Trump... You have to think about how big the network is, how many people are implicated in this.” – Deante’ Kyle [31:11]
- Broaching taboo topics, emphasizes that child sexual abuse must be called out plainly.
Notable Quote:
- “The worst case is... they’re actually like, pedophiles, bruh.” – Deante’ Kyle [30:00]
6. Slavery, Genocide, & Economic Blackouts
[37:40–47:03]
- Explains the ongoing genocide and slave trade in Sudan, funded by the UAE; criticizes U.S. indifference.
- Draws connections between global Black suffering and Black American economic decisions: calls for an “economic blackout” from Nov 25–Dec 2—no spending at major retailers, support small & Black-owned businesses instead.
- “You don’t lose anything by not spending anything. And if you do decide to spend your money, be mindful where you spend that dollar.” – Deante’ Kyle [39:29]
Key Moment:
- “This is about us creating a tradition around consumerism and masking it as a holiday.” – Deante’ Kyle [37:50]
7. Systemic Poverty, Welfare, and Verdicts on Bootstrap Mentality
[47:03–51:10]
- On SNAP benefits/cuts and American government cruelty.
- Argues everyone should have access to food/housing: the system is rigged for wealth to flow ever upward.
- “If you live in this country, you should eat. If you live in this country, you should have access to healthcare.” – Deante’ Kyle [65:57]
- Rants on misplaced blame among working class—urges looking “up, not down.”
Standout Rant:
- “They got their boot on your motherfucking head... pressing it into the concrete, and you trying to turn around while your head is being smashed, so you can lick... the bottom of the boot.” – Deante’ Kyle [50:47]
8. Advice & Listener Submissions
[51:10–93:49]
a) Platform Growth & Reaching Black Audiences
Caller: Larry the Sociologist
- Struggles to reach intended audience (curious Black folks) despite algorithm pushing content to White viewers.
- Deante’ emphasizes intention, patience, and repetition:
- “Keep putting it out and just trust that with your intention, it’s gonna find its intended audience.” [52:52]
b) Career Advice: Tired Car Salesman to Tech/Trades
Caller: Meek
- Considering tech to provide better for family; Big Cat and Deante’ encourage a smooth, safe transition and offer help connecting to trades if needed.
c) Gen Z College Crisis
Caller: 19 y/o listener
- Burned out, uncertain about staying in college vs. family obligations.
- “Don’t give up. You’re 19… You’ll be all right.” – Big Ice Cup Cat [61:58]
- Deante’ encourages self-inventory, authenticity, and making choices for oneself—not for others' approval [61:59–66:53].
d) Relationship Residue: Bond with Ex’s Niece
Caller: Houston Partner
- Grapples with codependency, lingering feelings after breakup, and a bond with ex's niece.
- Deante’ is blunt: “That shit is over. And everything that came along with it is over too.” [73:02]
- Big cat: “He’s just trying to babysit his way into... the good graces.” [74:32]
e) “Wait until Marriage?” – Sudden Celibacy after Years Together
Caller: 22 y/o man, 6-year relationship
- Girlfriend suddenly wants to abstain until marriage.
- Panel speculates it's more about security (seeking a commitment) than faith.
- “This may be a tactic of manipulation... to get you to marry her.” – Deante’ Kyle [78:37]
- “Common law. Yeah, pretty much common law.” – Big Ice Cup Cat [77:19]
f) Vee-Jitsu: Arming the Community
Caller: Greg, martial artist in Delaware
- Wishes to train and organize Black leftists in self-defense, boxing, bladed/armed combat (Vee-Jitsu).
- Deante’ and Big Cat comically riff on the deadliness of Vee-Jitsu, marveling at its origins (“Why would you take that to the Bronx!” [88:44])—but ultimately endorse the idea.
- “If you want to be dangerous and do the knowledge, get that V Jitsu going. Go to Delaware...” – Deante’ Kyle [91:13]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “If you work in this country, if you exist in this fucking country, you should eat.” – Deante’ Kyle [65:57]
- “I want freshly. We trying to be around.” – Deante’ Kyle [02:35]
- “You looking side to side and you looking down when you need to be looking up.” – Deante’ Kyle [50:57]
- “You moving a little reckless out here, you know what I’m saying? You kind of lucky that the nigga don’t give a fuck about his daughter because he could have just gave you a fucked up tattoo.” – Deante’ Kyle [72:25]
- [On Vee-Jitsu’s deadliness] “I want a roundhouse kick a ... then back out at the same time.” – Big Ice Cup Cat [87:09]
Timestamps for Important Segments
- Opening banter, show news & restaurant prices: 00:48–03:20
- Art stroll, Black art/Atlanta scene: 03:38–05:10
- Live show reflection: 08:02–08:49
- Fashion, class, and internal Black debates: 09:23–12:39
- Black creativity in Hollywood, organic marketing: 13:00–23:13
- Conspiracies (Epstein, Trump, political hypocrisy): 27:02–37:40
- International news & economic blackout: 37:40–47:03
- Wealth gap rant, SNAP, welfare, bootlickers: 47:03–51:10
- Larry the Sociologist, platform advice: 51:10–52:52
- Career question (car salesman considering tech): 56:05–58:46
- Gen Z college crisis: 59:07–66:53
- Relationship w/ ex's niece, boundaries: 68:39–74:44
- Waiting until marriage, sudden celibacy: 76:07–83:32
- “Vee-Jitsu” and self-defense for the community: 85:18–93:49
Overall Tone & Style
True to form, Deante’ and Big Ice Cup Cat keep things “raw and unfiltered,” oscillating between hard-hitting critique, heartfelt community concern, and hilarious, animated riffing (“I got a hot one to my gut! Nigga Sav taught me that teep. Bing!” [85:57]). Audience engagement is high, with call-ins providing a window into diverse Black life experiences—each met with real talk, roast, and practical wisdom.
For listeners and readers alike, this episode is a vibrant mix of Black community love, weary disgust with systemic injustice, unapologetically honest advice, and plenty of jokes to keep you laughing off the pressure.