Episode 102 - Gigi Leflair Returns

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast

Episode 102 – Gigi Leflair Returns (November 25, 2025)

Host: Deante’ Kyle
Guest: Gigi Leflair
Theme: A vibrant, rollicking, and candid conversation about Southern culture – from fashion and food, to music and migration – featuring storytelling, sharp cultural observations, and a lot of laughs.

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Episode Overview

In this high-energy episode, Deante’ Kyle welcomes back comedian Gigi Leflair for her second appearance, making her the podcast’s first returning guest. The episode dives deep into the fabric of Southern life, with a special focus on Black Southern culture, its unique subcultures, the pride and humor of small-town living, and the role of Atlanta as a beacon for Black achievement. The hosts also tackle hot topics like “What is really the South?”, the nuances of reverse migration, intergenerational fashion codes, food splurges, pet-raising woes, and the Mount Rushmore of Southern rap groups and producers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Southern Identity and Subcultures

(Split across 31:05 – 44:00)

• Gigi and Deante’ unpack the regional, cultural, and behavioral definitions of “the South,” recognizing both the historical Mason Dixon line and lived experience.
• Gigi distinguishes between "regionally Southern" and "culturally Southern," giving Florida, Texas, Louisiana, and New Orleans as nuanced examples:

  “Upper Florida is lower South... Lower Florida is upper Caribbean. That’s a primary culture of immigrant lifestyle.” (33:32)

• The pair highlight subcultures within Southern Black communities: Geechee, Appalachian, Tidewater, and hoodoo traditions.
• They unpack how intra-regional migration and outside influences reshape Southern identity, noting the influx of East Coast transplants into Virginia and North Carolina.
• Chicago and Detroit are acknowledged as cities that, despite not being in the South, still carry strong Southern roots due to Black migration.

2. Southern Pride—Blackness, Community, and Routine

(43:31 – 46:42)

• There’s reverent nostalgia for small-town, intergenerational Black southern life:

  “It makes me happy to know that when I sit on the back of a pickup truck and I eat peanuts out of a bag with a RC Cola can... my mama used to do that. That’s a big deal to you. But culturally, that's culture.” (43:29 – Gigi)

• Extended families with “trailers on the land” are celebrated as a form of luxury and deep-rooted community unavailable in big, northern cities.
• Deante’ shares pride in knowing friends with streets named after their family, noting the community significance.

3. Reverse Southern Migration & Gentrification

(46:16 – 51:00)

• Deante’ suggests “reverse Great Migration”: encouraging people to reclaim Southern roots.
• Gigi critiques northern newcomers lacking respect for Southern customs:

  "We're so welcoming man, that sometimes nobody get–Here we go. Let me go ahead and just get it off my damn chest… They don't give us the same respect to 'when in Rome, do as the Romans'." (47:01)

• Both bemoan the erasure of Black rural communities for “luxury” gentrification:

  "You want to tear that down and put a Starbucks there? … 13 double-wide bricked-in trailers on 13 acres… is luxury down here, bro." (49:04)

4. Fashion, Footwear, and High School Stories

(01:53 – 30:01)

• A hilarious opening riff on the authenticity of “dirty shoe” white boys and the fashion code of Airwalks, DC Shoes, and bargain shopping.
• The duo swaps stories of being roasted for off-brand or unique fashion choices in school.
• Gigi recounts an embarrassing “missing eyebrow” incident from her high school days:

  “I had to continue the rest of the game with no eyebrows...” (19:22 – Gigi)

• Reflections on how fashion choices expose individuality, creativity, and even art teacher/marketing agent stereotypes.

5. Southern Food, Splurging & Pet Tales

(04:00 – 13:20)

• Both hosts draw the line at $100 shirts, but willingly splurge at restaurants, highlighting unique Southern attitudes to food, money, and experience.
• Extended, comedic tales about breeding pitbulls (“blue nose” is like “hitting the Powerball”), community animal care, and feeding dogs biscuits or green beans.
• Discussion about different, regionally-influenced eating habits.

6. Atlanta’s Black Excellence & Rural-to-Urban Pathways

(57:00 – 61:32)

• Atlanta is described as a city where Blackness is assumed and celebrated:

  "Atlanta reminds you that you're Black, LA helps you forget it." (61:32)

• The city’s role as a beacon for Black artists, entrepreneurs, and the “celebration of the hustle” is explored:

  “[In Atlanta] Everything's attainable to an Atlanta kid because they see it around and they...” (60:01 – Deante’)

7. Mount Rushmore & Dream Teams: Southern Rap Groups and Producers

(64:05 – End)

• Fierce debate and reverent nostalgia for great Southern hip-hop collectives.
• Rules are clarified: Cash Money and No Limit are set aside as too “goaded” to include in regular categories.
• Notable lists offered:

Top Five Southern Groups (Agreement List—88:14):

1. Outkast
2. Clipse
3. UGK
4. Three 6 Mafia
5. 8Ball & MJG
   Honorable Mentions: Goody Mob, Field Mob, Crymob, Nappy Roots, Dirty, Lil Jon & the Eastside Boyz, YoungBloodz, PSC

Quotes:

• “Master P showed you in real time. I’m gonna make sure that my brother go with me wherever I go.” (72:54 – Gigi)
• “Florida got a whole bunch of little groups and like that, that’s super local—but that’s Florida.” (90:46 – Deante’)

Dream Southern “Supergroups”

Various “create-a-group” combinations, e.g.:

• Lil Wayne, Juvenile, T.I., Missy Elliott (Timbaland producing)
• Pusha T, Andre 3000, Big K.R.I.T., Bun B (Mannie Fresh producing)
• Megan Thee Stallion, Big K.R.I.T., Project Pat, CeeLo (Zaytoven producing)
• Trick Daddy, Pimp C, Jeezy, Fantasia (David Banner producing)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Stop saying ‘trying’—trying is for people who ain’t really out here doing.” (28:44 – Gigi)
• “Six blues. And then one of them was a brindle blue. I’m talking about blue body with the Carolina stripes on, man.” (07:03 – Gigi)
• “If I see a white man with clean shoes I’m like this up. Get him out of there. He appropriate in culture!” (01:35 – Deante’ & Gigi)
• “You grow up with a different mindset when you are a Black child growing up in a Black city, for sure...” (57:21 – Gigi)
• “If Master P had have been from a big city, they would speak with more reverence about him.” (74:04 – Gigi)
• “They don’t show you me and you… a lot of the south looks like me and you.” (52:30 – Gigi)

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Episode Timeline: Timestamps

• Chopping it up about Southern white boys/fashion: 0:05 – 4:43
• Food, spending habits, authenticity in clothing: 4:43 – 6:13
• Pitbull breeding tales & dog care: 6:21 – 13:20
• High school eyebrow and shoes stories: 15:01 – 22:00
• Rituals, routines, family stories, and community: 43:31 – 46:42
• Gentrification, rural values vs. urban newcomers: 46:16 – 51:00
• Music, Southern rap debate: 64:05 – end
  • Top 5 Groups: 72:13 – 89:50
  • Supergroup Draft: 91:52 – 98:50
• Atlanta as Black Mecca: 57:20 – 61:32

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Tone & Style

Playful, fast-paced, deeply affectionate for Southern life, and unashamedly full of vivid language and honest storytelling. The episode is both laugh-out-loud funny and sneakily insightful, seamlessly mixing anecdotes, social critique, nostalgia, and Black Southern cultural pride.

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For Listeners New and Old

This episode is a treasure trove for anyone who wants an authentic feel for contemporary Black Southern life—from the everyday to the cultural icons, from the personal roast to the communal uplift, all delivered with the love, cleverness, and humility that marks the Grits and Eggs Podcast.

Transcript

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty soul with a dirty mouth My knee orbit, miss things Things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my bitch no rest Fusion she gorgeous as I doubt my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead Tell them we gonna get this money to my pocket Sn morbid Remember living in apartments now we playing.

[A]

Mortgage I'm eating lemon pepper six in the morning last night with my white.

[B]

Friends yeah, like I get knocked down but I get up again and you're never gonna keep me down.

[A]

That's that, though.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

He taste of whiskey. No, I ain't gonna hold you. White people be having some bops, man.

[B]

I'm ready for him to get back. What? They say they're ready for him to get back into the garage.

[A]

Yeah, we need him get back, start.

[B]

Making bands again, right?

[A]

We had a whole episode about this.

[B]

That's what we need.

[A]

I need a white boy to be on the brink of suicide and heavy into his drug addiction.

[B]

Heavy bang. Yeah, the bang is necessary.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the bang hold. I want some long, greasy hair with a heroin addiction that you hiding from the world. And in other words, Kurt Cobain. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Basically just describing that.

[B]

Just Kirk, the dirtiest of sneakers. I do not want them sneakers clean. If them sneakers.

[A]

I don't even trust white people with clean shoes.

[B]

Get him out of there. He do not need to be in that studio soon.

[A]

I see a white man with clean shoes. I'm like this up.

[B]

Get him out of there. This is. That's the man.

[A]

He appropriate in culture, right?

[B]

His shoes too clean.

[A]

No, no, man. I see a white with three different colors on and some dirty shoes that don't match none of it. That's my guy.

[B]

I like to go.

[A]

That's a good guy right there, man.

[B]

I like a classic white. What I like to call an old school MTV white.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. I like a Green Day White.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A DC Shoe.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big ass shoes.

[B]

DC Shoe Airwalk.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right. I used to go airwalk.

[B]

I did, too. Hey, they got me for it, too.

[A]

I ain't gonna lie.

[B]

You know, my community never let me hear the end of it.

[A]

Ain't niggas, niggas, niggas, niggas air walk me right up out of class with the jokes.

[B]

They never let me hear the end of it, man.

[A]

Because you know that you can used to get some airwalks in the, in the roses or you get some airwalks and on Kmart.

[B]

So I got the airwalks from journeys.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, you went real airwalk.

[B]

Yeah, I went real airwalks, yeah.

[A]

I had to discount.

[B]

And that's okay. That's okay.

[A]

I was already taking a risk, you know what I'm saying? We ain't gonna pay a lot for them.

[B]

But you, you a little younger than me. So I had to pick and pay shoes at one time. So I already had went through my struggle. I had pick and pay and pay less shoes at one time. So I'd already did my time. So it was time for me to go ahead and upgrade little by little as per the community around me.

[A]

And at that time, I ain't gonna lie, man, Payless, I had you in that trying to like you got when you got on Payless Nike. You just gotta make it work with the laces. So you gotta go crazy with the laces.

[B]

We were going there because my mama will get the, the salmon Libby's. I don't know if you're familiar with those.

[A]

I'm, I'm, I'm here.

[B]

The bell. You hip to them. Okay, so Sam and Libby ballet flats was really like the go to premier white girl shoe at that time. And you were, you needed all the colors. So if you couldn't really get the Sam and Libby, the real ones, then you went to Payless and you got what was there.

[A]

Yeah, you just got a Libby, right? Yeah, yeah. Sam had a story I'm here for and. Right. I ain't gonna lie. I'm a shoe carnival nigga too.

[B]

But you know, we talked about that. Like we love a good shoe carnival. Like we, we love a bargain. Yeah, but see, style ain't about price.

[A]

Yeah, it is. When you in high school.

[B]

Well, you know, but listen, I ain't.

[A]

Going to lie, man. I ain't a big fan of this cuz. Like, my son, he'll got down be like, oh, I want this, I want that. I'm like, man, go start checking them tags on them shirts, man.

[B]

It's going to say Gildan in the shirt for sure.

[A]

It's going to say got a gilding shirt on with the guy. They say essential across the front. It's a cuz they got a central shirt. Is my son looking at a central shirt the other day?

[B]

It be them hey buddy shirts. Hey, buddy from at the gas station, man.

[A]

Let me tell you something, man. The real essential shirt that shit. $100. I'mma tell you. I told my son, I said, bro, I can't even never see myself paying $100 for no fucking T shirt. I said, this, this, type this. Now, if it was 1980 and you came to me about $100 shirt, I'd tell you to go outside and get on your motherfucking grind.

[B]

1980.

[A]

If it was 1982, you better go outside and make some money. Make something happen. Niggas outside, right? Get right. You gotta use what you got to get what you want for sure. Cause ain't no way to fuck. I don't give a fuck if I got a million dollars. I ain't giving you no hundred dollars for no T shirt.

[B]

I think that each person justifies what is considered an okay ridiculous purchase.

[A]

Okay? Where you at with it?

[B]

Okay, I might not spend $100 on a T shirt. Cause that's crazy to me. But, baby, I go ham in that restaurant. You hear me? I go ham in that restaurant. I'm the woman that. I have an appetizer, a entree, and a dessert and a drink and a water and you know what, baby? Let me try. Y' all sweet tea, y'. All. Let me get a side salad, extra cheese.

[A]

Man, I give three sides. Fuck you talking about? I might get a steak with three sides on it, motherfucker. I wanna try everything.

[B]

Because I always told myself that no matter how hard I work, I might can't have everything I want. But I'm gonna eat and drink what I want now. Hey, look, and that's my problem.

[A]

Splurging on food. Don't even feel like splurging it.

[B]

Don't eat.

[A]

That's just a good time.

[B]

Yeah, I'm just. I'm making an experience.

[A]

I'm gonna tell you, I never go $100 on a shirt, but I might go 4, 500 on some shoes. I ain't gonna lie.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. Shoes is where I be. You know what I mean? Like, and even now, it's just like. I think the most expensive pair of shoes I ever bought was $300, though.

[B]

I will spend money on clothes. I will wear a Gucci purse with a flea market outfit, like, and with a Thrift Thrift shirt today.

[A]

I ain't gonna lie, though. You always put it on, though.

[B]

Yeah, I appreciate it.

[A]

Yeah, I appreciate it. Gigi Deville in the building.

[B]

Get me those pit bulls.

[A]

101 pit bulls.

[B]

101. 101 pit bulls on the run.

[A]

It's one blue nose in there. I swear Niggas think they special when they get the blue nose, bro. And do, it's a good dog, though. And do, it's a beautiful dog.

[B]

I call myself breeding pits for one litter.

[A]

Yeah, one litter. Nah, it's too much.

[B]

It was too much. It was too much.

[A]

It's a lot of fecal matter involved in breeding dogs.

[B]

Right, right, right. It's a lot. I had 10 puppies and like six of them came out like straight blue. You know, in the nigger community. That right there, you just hit the power ball. Well, you ain't get the last number, but you got all the rest of the numbers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you a winner. Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

[A]

Yeah. Six blues.

[B]

Six blues. And then one of them was a brindle blue. I'm talking about blue body with the Carolina stripes on, man.

[A]

You might have got.

[B]

Do you hear me?

[A]

You might have could have got 20 racks off that boo boo.

[B]

Do you hear me?

[A]

Do you hear me? Some paperwork on the dolls.

[B]

That's what they going to ask. And I was like, you know, I ain't. I ain't really got no paperwork. But I show you the show you the mom and the daddy. Hey, listen, I got the mom and the daddy on premises right now. That's. That still counts as a referral.

[A]

N. Look, if. If I can see the mom and daddy.

[B]

Paperwork. If I tell you I got a moment dead right here. Hey, they've been together right here on my property. Look at right here. I show where I feed them put eggs in that food once a week. Yeah, I do that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Let that coat shine, baby.

[B]

And then I don't feed them number that you cano I give them. Cuz think once you say eukanuba that you now have given your dog a Michelin five star meal. Like they feel like once you say one of them type of brands, you now have solidified yourself. You are now Cesar Mil. The dog Ain't going to lie to. Because that's just.

[A]

I ain't going to lie to you.

[B]

That's what it is.

[A]

Do always got like a certain.

[B]

They got. We got a spill. We know.

[A]

Like it be a certain little thing. It's like. Like, this ain't no. No, this ain't no G, this Z. Okay, but you saying it's up, but it ain't. And it's like, that's how get scared all the time.

[B]

I braid them piss. I hate them six months. I felt I was just. I said, you know what this right here is? This is beautiful.

[A]

How much money you made out there.

[B]

A little after you take away what it costs and everything. Maybe. Maybe 800. Yeah, maybe 800. If you take away everything that it costs to have a mama and the daddy on premises, feeding her, getting everything that she needs for them puppies, getting all the supplies that they needed and then wasting. Counting. Counting gas, meeting people, going to talk to this person, that person. Because you can't have people come to your house because they coming back to get them dogs.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Yeah, so now you gotta take time out of your schedule to go meet.

[A]

Yeah, it's a lot.

[B]

It's a lot.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then we were doing interviews to make sure that you're not fighting these dogs.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Y' all doing it the right way.

[B]

Let you leave. I can't just let you leave with my grandkids and then think I can't go to bed at night knowing that you got my grandkids out here living a life of poverty and impoverishment. I can't.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Life of crime. For real.

[B]

I can't have. I can't help him, like.

[A]

Out here like Oliver and company.

[B]

Yeah, I don't want that. So now I gotta do interview.

[A]

Why should I? Y' all remember that movie? That's my. I ain't gonna lie. I just had about this little staffy n. I cover that. My favorite Disney movie of all time. Like, real. Them niggas came about to struggle for real.

[B]

Like, I can't have my dog. I can't have my grandkids out here living there like. Like.

[A]

Nah, that's real.

[B]

Rolling up they sleeves and out here in the streets. I can't have.

[A]

I like. Like Tom and Jerry.

[B]

I could have had it. I could have it on my soul and my grandchildren.

[A]

I ain't gonna lie, man. I had to buy little Staffordshire terrier, bro, from Breeder. And it's on this app. I would plug the app, but they got kind of got it. Like, I'm almost like damn near to the point where I'm ready for y' all to pay me if I'm gonna shout your out.

[B]

Okay. Talk your time.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? I will shout you out because I do with it. It's a. Yeah, whatever. Okay. So you know what I'm saying? I'm looking at it. I'm like, I'll probably train them that shit on McCarthy. I'm like, I could have bought a Ford Taurus. I could have bought a 044 Taurus. What I paid for the little piece of little shitty ass dog. But it didn't it's like you really gotta take care now. You really gotta lock in with them.

[B]

Like you got to.

[A]

You're a little too expensive for me to goddamn just throw you to the.

[B]

Side like a mutt.

[A]

I can't shoot you like no. If it was a mutt, I'll kick that nigga outta my house. I ain't gonna lie. You know how many dogs done dropped off in foreign neighborhoods?

[B]

Okay, I. The Gigi LaFleur brand does not support or endorse any of these statements the Gigi lafleur brand does not support or endorse any of those phrases of just dropping the dog.

[A]

I'm gonna tell you what deontay Kyle know. I know I can go to any apartment complex on six flare drivers, drop a dog off, he gonna be fine. He gonna find the owner within an hour. Within an hour. And that. Cause all my dogs, see, before the staff, all my dogs was pit esque, okay? You know what I'm saying? I wasn't really getting full blown pits. I'm getting, you know, a pit in the face. They ain't got the head, they ain't got the paws, right? You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Right?

[A]

This might be a little box of mix, you know what I'm saying, that might be mixed with a schnauzer. You don't never know, you know what I'm saying? These are months, all right? You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna drop you off in the hood real quick. You're gonna find the owner, he'll take.

[B]

Care of the neighborhood event, you know, the neighborhood will take care of him and he gonna take care.

[A]

Look, I know little badass kids do. I know what little badass kids do. They find a dog, they keep a dog, you know what I'm saying? And then their parents, depending on what type of parents they got, their parents be like, hell yeah, yeah. They feed them a hot dog, feed them some ham, feed the nigga some bologna that leaving living off a cold cut.

[B]

Me feeding her dog. They'll munchy green beans. I swear. I came on my cousin's house one day, she said, hold on, wait a minute, I swear, true story. I came over my cousin's house, she said I gotta feed my dog. I said, okay, dog, the dog vegan. That mom went in the pantry, like not the bottom part where you go and grab a bag. She went in the pantry and she rich.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

She wrenched up top. So I'm like, oh, this is new. I ain't never seen Nobody do this without food. She to get the food and she pulled out Del Monte green beans, no sodium.

[A]

Oh, yeah. All right, open them up.

[B]

Put him in there.

[A]

Dog went to them hoes up too then. I bet he did. I tell you one thing.

[B]

I tell you one thing is going on over here.

[A]

I be ready to feed my dog any goddamn thing. Little scraps and. And I'd be like, okay, dogs and potatoes, fully cooked, no soda here. Eat the potato real quick. They knocked this off real quick.

[B]

She said that you feed your dog. I ain't with it.

[A]

I got whole biscuit yesterday.

[B]

A Popeye's one?

[A]

Nah, a breakfast biscuit. They ain't had nothing on it.

[B]

That's all right.

[A]

They ain't even. But it was a white folk ain't butter it up. Okay. This is one little white people breakfast restaurant. I go to local to Villarica. I with them. Cause they make French toast with croissants. That be good as a.

[B]

Okay, yeah.

[A]

Me you know how good them shits is. I'm. I'm eating that. I'm eating that. No fork. I'm throwing the sausage in the middle of that. Folding like a taco, eating that.

[B]

Oh, so once you went hands on, you were locked in.

[A]

Yeah, I'm. But then I was like at the end, they just throw the biscuit in there. I don't like the biscuit too much.

[B]

So they gave.

[A]

They make terrible green toast.

[B]

And they gave you croissant toast. French croissant toast and a biscuit.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

They trying to kill you.

[A]

They trying to kill me.

[B]

They trying to kill you.

[A]

I. I had the sausage patty. Fat ass sausage patty 2. They ain't smash that. Oh, you know, I mean, I like a smash Jimmy Dean sausage. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Nothing tops the Jimmy Dean.

[A]

Hey, look, okay, you know, when them come Jimmy Dean. Look, anytime they sell something as an outlaw that hitting jimm like a rock. That's what I knew as soon as, as soon as I seen that commercial. I said, I'm. Give me for a truck when I get old. That got me up once.

[B]

You see a white man in a flannel shirt.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And a cowboy hat and he got that get the day started like Jimmy Dean.

[B]

He's rugged.

[A]

Yeah, he's rugged.

[B]

You know, it's gonna be, you know, it's gonna be good.

[A]

Hey, first of all, like a rock is Chevy.

[B]

It is.

[A]

Give me a Ford truck. That's a Chevy. Oh, yeah. You know, I said it to myself. I said, damn, that ain't Right. It's built for it too.

[B]

Yes, built for it too.

[A]

I ain't gonna lie.

[B]

Over, over roll and die.

[A]

Oh, that's what Ford said. That's something. That's some. That's some that.

[B]

Over roll and die.

[A]

That's some that.

[B]

That's why you don't drive forward.

[A]

That's good white. That's good white mechanic right there.

[B]

That's exactly what it is.

[A]

Because white mechanics. White mechanics got all the goddamn.

[B]

That's exactly what he said.

[A]

Yeah, that white Candace got all the lingo.

[B]

Get a Ford for ain't roll and die. You get a Chevy built for Americans.

[A]

Yeah, like a rock.

[B]

As strong as I can be. You gotta turn it.

[A]

Listen, I'mma tell you, man, it's somebody right now getting PTSD about hearing me say that. Because when we was in high school, you know how them girls they be man. Shout out to all my girls. That's not need, but you know that's a transition N. You know how girls they be tall, they be knocking.

[B]

Yeah. The cookout needs.

[A]

And they big. They big up top, but they smile in the bottom. So there's a whole lot of titty and back but no ass.

[B]

We all know.

[A]

I remember they need her, but she could roast real good.

[B]

That was me briefly from 2019.

[A]

You built like a rock. And a in the class had said, oh, like a rock. When I tell you, the teacher was laughing, bruh. That was one of the funniest days of my life. Because you know when you in high.

[B]

School, that's her moment, bro.

[A]

That's her. That's her 13th reason, bro.

[B]

That's like her moment.

[A]

You know when you in high school and like something so funny that you never stop repeating that's it like that it for like three months.

[B]

Bless her heart.

[A]

Bless her heart. Yeah. It was bad. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. She about ready to sue Chevy about that. I would endorsement. Yeah.

[B]

This dude wiped my eyebrow off. Hey, high school game, basketball game.

[A]

Lack of expression.

[B]

I'm talking about on one side. One side.

[A]

On one side.

[B]

No express giving two faced McGee.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

High school basketball game. And I'm talking about this back when high school basketball was high school basketballing, like above the rim. Like it's. It's a thousand people in there and it ain't supposed to be but 250.

[A]

Yeah. Small towns and high school sports that got handy.

[B]

Friday night. Friday night basketball. Oh my God. Crazy. The amount of Tommy Hilfiger Nautica and polo coats in there that night.

[A]

It was a billion dollars worth. Boating gear wiped out, man, boat man, body of water gear enough.

[B]

I come in there, eyebrows drawn on. I'm talking about sperm cells, baby. Big in the front, loose on the end. Big in the front, loose on the ends. I'm in that. Hey, I'm. I'm smiling, chinning and grinning. You can't tell me, baby. I think I'm cleaning hell fresh, pal. Rebot classes, clear soul on the bot. Your girl thought she was clean.

[A]

No, you were fresh as.

[B]

How about eyebrows Prime. I didn't lock them in. Setting powder was not a thing yet.

[A]

Yeah, it was. Really? Yeah. You need to be in the climate controlled environment.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I ain't set them up. I got oily skin and I got a big forehead. Most light skinned girls got a big forehead. And it was, it was on high gleam that night.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I took that.

[A]

Yeah, them lights, you know what I'm saying?

[B]

Right, right, right. So it was basketball season, so it was a little cool. So I had my winter face on. So I needed to balance it with a wonderful eyebrow. Right? Big forehead, super pale face. It was too much. The eyebrow had to shine.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And they were shining that night.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then I walked in and that came up to me. He said, you got something on your forehead. And that white that wiped my whole eyebrows slam off my face like no residue. I'm talking about cleaned it.

[A]

What made your son do that, though?

[B]

I to this day have no idea.

[A]

You had beef?

[B]

No, no, I had no beef with this man.

[A]

You gotta understand that.

[B]

He took my eyebrow out. I had to continue the rest of the game with no eyebrows.

[A]

Did you have like a hat?

[B]

I ran to the bathroom.

[A]

I would've ti' ed for sure.

[B]

I ran to the bathroom.

[A]

I would've went trouble, man on nigga, real quick.

[B]

Okay? There's got to be someone in here breaking the law smoking cigarettes in the bathroom. The girls who smoke.

[A]

You was ready to rat.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

I was gonna say embarrassment. The embarrassment turns you to the police at the games.

[B]

It's got to be somebody in there smoking cigarettes. The girls who smoke cigarettes in the high school bathroom. I always got makeup. You know, I'm a social butterfly. I don't put enough social currency out there that I can go up to the goddamn mean girls in the bathroom and ask, hey, do you think I could borrow. I get in there, borrow eyebrow. You think I can borrow your eyebrow pencil? Everybody's like, no, I don't have my eyebrow pencil. Oh my God, my Mom took mine.

[A]

So you fucked up.

[B]

I fucked out here. My homegirl don't even want to leave. Cause she talking about. It's so many people in here. We finna leave right now. It's really not even that bad. Bitch, you a hater. You a hater. Cause you knew my eyebrow was gone.

[A]

Hold on. First of all, the whole eyebrow missing is as bad as it gets. Yeah, I ain't gonna hold. You know what? I did just like that other one off.

[B]

But that's the thing, though. I couldn't.

[A]

Now I'm expressionless. Now I'm sitting. Now you can't make fun of me.

[B]

Because my forehead is too big for blankness.

[A]

Yeah, I can't give you. I can't give you blank.

[B]

Right? I can't give you blank. I can't do that. It's. It's gonna. It's a lot. I can't do that. So now I had to just continue going the whole day and letting them niggas know I can smell what the Rock was cooking. Cause I had just that one eye. And I never forgot that moment. Every time I see that, I make sure I remind him, do you remember when you wipe my eyebrow off and you know who you are? I'm not even gonna say your name.

[A]

Boy, but you're on Facebook. Still on right now.

[B]

You. And I never forgot it. And I appreciate you because I stopped cutting all my eyebrows off after this, so.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Cause you need a little residual.

[B]

You know, I might owe you a thank you because I really didn't need to confirm sale. Eyebrows.

[A]

Yeah, they were.

[B]

They were. It was a real big bonky in the front and just like a. On the end. Yeah, a parenthesis.

[A]

Yeah, it was. Yeah, an apostrophe. Yeah. Oh, you was cholo.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It was like.

[A]

Yeah, she went charlo.

[B]

I'm sorry, let me ask. A boonki is like a butt. That's a Carolina way to say. But it was like a big butt on the front of the. Of the eyebrow. And then it had that tail skin on the end.

[A]

Little semicolon type vibe.

[B]

Oh, it was too much.

[A]

Hey, man, we all learn the worst lessons in the worst ways, man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But they live with her forever. Because I ain't gonna hold you. I had got down. Yeah. I had got my little Christmas check. And I thought. I thought I was being. I thought I was being different from. Bought me some G units. Nah, the shoes. I'm never wearing a G unit. Let me explain something to this. Let me. Let me Explain something to niggas about a G Unit beater here.

[B]

It's a man, girdle.

[A]

Yeah, it's a man. Yeah. And also too, it's like, you lowkey. Prison bound, you throw that on.

[B]

Soon as you put that on, you.

[A]

Catch a felony, soon pop out your arm. As soon as you put that on.

[B]

Hold up right here for me.

[A]

Yeah, that come with an ankle monitor, right? I know. I had went G unit shoes because they. They had some Puerto Rican Day parade G units. I thought them ships was so fly. Puerto Rican. Listen, my. This in that. This in my era, too, where I had, like, low cut.

[B]

You still in Atlanta?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was in Douglasville.

[B]

Go get you some big puns.

[A]

Listen, I ain't gonna lie. This is. This has been my taste. If I like it, it's fine.

[B]

I fought with it too.

[A]

But that is not everybody's thing. You know what I'm saying? Some is like, my homeboy was like, damn, bro, why you ain't to get no Jordans? I like these whole like they is. But ain't nobody else gonna think that, bro. Like, and then I'm going, like, I got like five white tees. I got a red tea, I got a blue tea, I got a green tea. So I'm going. I'm going white tea over the red. Red tea over the white. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm. I got like 10 combinations. These niggas is frying my ass every day to the point where I'm like, all right, bro. I was like, get what that saying something about my shoes, bro. I mean, we're going up top, man. Listen, man would fry me. I remember I came to class, said, oh, that got them bed for mercy. So bed for mercy is crazy. This is the thing about shoes. You can't take them off. Can't take them off. You can't take them off. You can't take them bitches off. Paid your bed and then did my. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I paid my bread, and it's like, my mama, cuz. My mama like, all right, you making. Got your little job. I help you with the clothes, the shoes. That's all you. Okay, okay, cool, man. I got. I got them and I got like, some black forests.

[B]

So now you.

[A]

Yeah, because I can't. And I'm not wearing dark colors every day. So it's like when you wear the light color, and I'm just like, like it, bro. Like, I'm. Every day I put them hose on, I was like, I'm Wear these out of the joke. So, like, I'm aware I'm so much. You can't even joke on them no more. Are like, nah, we got new jokes today. And then I was just like, okay. I would never. And as long as I'm at this school, I would never buy an Outlander shoe again. I will keep this very simple.

[B]

It build character.

[A]

I'm gonna stick to the popular topics. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

It build characters. Character is you. It takes a special person to be able to go against the trends and to not fall into doing what everybody else is doing. Like, I feel like the people who make, like, fashion choices that don't go with what everybody else is doing, I feel like those are the people who are the free thinkers. I feel like you can tell a lot about a person by their fashion choices. It'll tell. It tells you where they're at, what's going on. Yeah, I mean, it can tell you a lot of things. Just like, I feel like fashion choices are like a recipe. Recipe. It tells the story that you don't say with your mouth.

[A]

The only thing that really kind of like.

[B]

And, like, I don't mean, like, you can tell. They got. You can tell a lot of things.

[A]

No, no, no. Yeah. It ain't. No, it's your choice. It's also just, like, kind of reflective of the mind, too.

[B]

Yeah. It lets me know. I like to find out who people are by not what they said, but things that they're doing. The person who. The girl who's out in the. The leopard shirt and the flower pants and the lime green Nikes. I think she's an art teacher. I'm gonna think she's an art teacher.

[A]

She got something going on.

[B]

I'm gonna think she's a science teacher. She works with kids, you know, because certain things make people highlight in certain areas. Like, the marketing agent is probably the girl in the red suit, not the black suit. Not. Not that person.

[A]

Yeah, she got red suit. It's still professional. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm out here, but still cutting deals.

[B]

I'm cutting you time out already.

[A]

They gonna see me come.

[B]

The Atlanta real estate agent. Her suit got a little more flair to it than the one who work in Biloxi. The lady who work in Biloxi, Mississippi, and I'm selling houses. Her suit doesn't look like Keisha Johnson.

[A]

That really got on casual.

[B]

She has on, like, a linen suit, y'.

[A]

All. Yeah. Cause you gotta think about the temple.

[B]

You can again.

[A]

It's Lumin out That. Yeah.

[B]

Your clothes tell a story whether you want it to or not. It tells me what you like, what you don't like. It can tell me a lot of things.

[A]

I ain't gonna hold you. I know. I interviewed today. I said I'm going bucket.

[B]

You know, I. With a bucket and that. They're hard.

[A]

Yeah. Thank you.

[B]

That hard.

[A]

Yeah. I knew you was gonna with it. I gotta throw the bucket on today.

[B]

You know, I have an avant garde, you know.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just trying to set it out, you know what I mean?

[B]

I'm a little bit of eccentric.

[A]

Yeah. This the hat podcast. Fuck you talking about? We love hat.

[B]

I'm out here in this one. Jeepers creepers. Where you get those beepers?

[A]

Yeah. Now you went all the way. You went glove on them. You like. Okay, let.

[B]

When there's trouble, you call dw. Let's get dangerous. Get them that. Loudest. Smoke and heat appears a master of the sk.

[A]

I ain't going to lie. We turn these lights off. They're purple, like behind it. Think the undertaker coming. Oh, the purple light is.

[B]

Is perfect because you know Dark Wing duck going to give you. Let's get dangerous, man.

[A]

What's been going on, man? You. You are our first returning guest.

[B]

Hey, I'm glad y' all had me back. I'm grateful to be here.

[A]

We already knew it was going to make it happen.

[B]

I'm always, always happy to be here. I'm happy that you make a space for me at your table. I'm grateful for it. I have a good time here.

[A]

How everything been going, though? You've been turning up with the show?

[B]

Yeah, I've been trying to, man. Like, I'm just out here. Let me stop saying trying because I got lectured for saying it.

[A]

Yeah, you're doing it.

[B]

I got lecture multiple times. They said, stop saying trying because you're doing. When you saying trying, you already mitigating the blessing and diminishing the blessing that's already in the room for you.

[A]

Preach.

[B]

Stop saying trying. Trying is for people who ain't really out here doing.

[A]

Preach.

[B]

Okay? I'm out here doing. Moving around on my second tour, Kiki with Gigi. I've been in different CDs. I got a couple of things coming up. See, I got. I got a whole Florida tour that I'm doing in November. So November 5th I'm in Tampa at the Funny Bone, and November 6th I'm in Orlando at the Funny Bone.

[A]

Oh, you going Funny Bone on. Yeah. This is real comedy. You know what I mean? We really? Doing comedy, nigga.

[B]

Not your little local pub.

[A]

With it. Go ahead.

[B]

I'm just out here doing what I can, you know, make a little room for me. And then on November 16th, I'm in. No, I'm sorry. November 19th, I'm in Fort Lauderdale. That's the improv.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, we got improv.

[B]

Y' all come on out. Goddamn. Y' all come on. Not with me. Yeah, y' all been asking for me to come to Florida. I'm coming. Don't. Don't let me die.

[A]

You full time now?

[B]

No, not yet. I'm still out here doing. You know, I'm doing. I'm doing everything until I can't do nothing. Yeah, I'm gonna do everything until I can't do nothing.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

Because, like, you know, my mama tell me all the time, don't get rid of one blessing just because you got a new one. Maybe he wants you to have both.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And when it's time for me to get rid of, you know?

[A]

Yeah, when it's time, it's time, you know? Yeah. Hell, yeah, I know, Man, I'm so happy to have you back, man. It's been a while. We had a good time last time.

[B]

Hell, yeah.

[A]

Yeah, we went everywhere last time.

[B]

We shoot the table, them are shaking the table like we shut the table.

[A]

You got a show tonight, too, though, huh? You got a show tonight?

[B]

Yeah, got a show tonight at Atlanta comedy theater, man. 10pm Atlanta Comedy Theater. And then I got a show tomorrow, October 26, at Charlie Goodnights. Okay, yeah, Charlie Goodnights. So, yeah, I'm out here just trying to tell these jokes, move around the country, show them a little bit of who we are down South. Not. I feel like a lot of the times, part of my comedy that I try to do, I like to go out and have a good time, don't get me wrong. So I try to make sure that I tell the story of who we are, where we come from. A lot of the times when they talk about the south, they don't show us. They don't show us.

[A]

You got some controversial Southern opinions, too.

[B]

Yeah, I got quite a few controversial Southern opinions. Like, I've been seeing the debate about what's really the south, and I feel like. Let me. Let me say this, okay? This is my take of how the south is set up about what's really the south and what's not. The Mason Dixon Line, that's a line that says regionally, what's the South. But culturally, what's the south is something different, regionally set on locations under the Mason Dixon line. Is the South. Yes, yes, yes. But just because you're under that line, Southern culture per se isn't always on the forefront. Let me, let me elaborate. The Carolinas, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, all of that is the South.

[A]

Tennessee.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Oh man.

[B]

Tennessee. Parts of Tennessee is the south, but this is where Tennessee has what I like to call Tennessee and parts of North Carolina have what I call intersectionality. They're southern, but they're also Appalachian. So you have to put that piece in there. Because the mountain people a little different.

[A]

No, that's real.

[B]

You got to put that in there. And if you're not Southern, sometimes you don't understand.

[A]

East Tennessee, West North Carolina, Western North.

[B]

Carolina, West Virginia, Maggieville, WLOS Channel 13.

[A]

West West Virginia, like half of Kentucky.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That's, that's Appalachian.

[B]

Appalachian people, Appalachians, they're different, but they're white Southern. But I also like to respect cultural nuance.

[A]

Different. It's a cultural regional thing. Yeah. Because you got, there's, there's North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and, and maybe a little part of Tennessee. You know, Georgia is a behavior, bruh.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's a behavior. It's a, it's the way we do things.

[B]

I feel like North. Okay. Everybody likes to group the Carolinas together. And we're not sisters, we're cousins.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We're more. South Carolina has more in common with Georgia than North Carolina.

[A]

Yeah. North Carolina, different world.

[B]

The Southeast shares a lot of things. I feel like when you say Southern culturally. Let me just make sure I say that. Not regionally or location culturally. As far as in the way they do things on day to day life. South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, they all follow the same rules. It gets muddy when you get to places like Texas, Louisiana and Florida. And the reason why I say it gets muddy. Stick with me. Now, Upper Florida is lower South. Upper Florida is lower South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, they're still very Southern, still very sweet tea. That's what we know. Lower Florida is upper Caribbean.

[A]

That's real.

[B]

That's a primary culture of immigrant lifestyle. They don't do things the same way that upper Florida does. Because upper Florida is Lower Carolinas, Lower Georgia, Lower Tennessee.

[A]

Yeah, because like in, in, in Georgia ain't eating no.

[B]

Right, right. I say this with Louisiana because there's Louisiana and then there's New Orleans.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

New Orleans.

[A]

New Orleans is a whole different world.

[B]

New Orleans is a different culture. New Orleans is southern, but New Orleans is also southern with influx of things that would Never fly in the rest of Louisiana. Remember, Atlanta is not Georgia. Miami is not Florida.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's locationally there, but culturally it's very different than the state that it resides within.

[A]

Right, right, right.

[B]

Texas. I feel the same way about Texas and it's gonna ruffle some feathers. But again, hear me out. Texas culture primarily is Mexican. Tex Mex. Black Americans who live in Texas adhere to Southern culture.

[A]

To me, specifically Dallas and Houston, specifically.

[B]

Black Americans like us.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Black Americans. Pot, liquor, Oldsmobile T top, cutlass. Grandma got a two part name Black American.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You're Southern. In Texas, you go home and live an Alabama, Mississippi, big Texas ass lifestyle. When you leave out the house, you get to partake in Tex Mex culture because it is the forefront outside of your home.

[A]

Okay, just like you done thought this all. Absolutely.

[B]

Cause I take pride in where I live in, man. Like, I feel like black Americans who live in Texas, Houston, Dallas, they are southern people who live in Texas and partake in Tex Mex Mexican culture outside of the home. When they go home, they Alabama folks. Mississippi, oxtails, rice. They're not eating tacos, they're not eating.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Okay. That's where I think how Southern culture is set up. Texas is primarily Tex Mex. Black Americans are Southern. They still live southern lives in Texas. With influx of Tex Mex culture, Alabama, Mississippi, they Southern all the way. Then you get to the Gulf, the Gulf Coast. It's a nuance to that because Gulf coast people are gonna be different than the people further inland.

[A]

That's real.

[B]

Geechees are not gonna be like the ones who up by the mountains in South Carolina. Geechees are Southern, but they have their own umbrella of lifestyle.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That you have to.

[A]

So it's a southern culture. With a bunch of subcultures.

[B]

With a bunch of subcultures. That's why people.

[A]

It's all Southern culture, but it's subculture. But you know what, they make that distinction in like hoodoo culture too. Yeah. A lot of people, they got tide water hoodoo, they got Geechee hoodoo. They got New Orleans. Correct. They got the Delta, they got Chesapeake Bay.

[B]

And everybody calls it something different.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm from the Carolina.

[A]

It's Appalachian hoodoo too.

[B]

I done heard plenty of times my grandparents and yada, yada, you know, you know, your aunt work ruts, so be careful. Yeah. You know, that boy ain't been right ever since he used to go with your aunt. They say she put roots on them.

[A]

Been right since they said that.

[B]

Don't eat that Spaghetti.

[A]

Yeah. They said, that lady put roots on my granddad.

[B]

Spaghetti boy. Yeah, take your hair with you.

[A]

My granddad had. His favorite fruit was peach. And they were like, yeah, you know, when he died, he throwing up black. That lady put the roots on.

[B]

That lady put them ruts on it. My girl. Like, a lot of them, like, 12, like, the.

[A]

They talking about I got older. I was like, nah, they popping their.

[B]

A lot of that is ingrained in our culture, and we don't put. We don't even think about it. Just because once you grew up hearing something so much, you don't question it.

[A]

Like, you got to understand how superstitious the Southern black American is.

[B]

And we don't talk about it because it falls. It's. It's a lot of things that we do that are wrapped up in other things, and we don't talk about it because it's. You just don't talk about things like that. Like why you don't put your purse on the ground. Why you don't let two people be in your head.

[A]

What happened? If you walk through a cold shadow.

[B]

Right. You're right. Why you don't have a mirror at the foot of your bed? Why y' all don't split that part? Like, you don't talk about these things, but you all know, know not to do them.

[A]

Hell yeah.

[B]

You all know, oh, my hand. Itching or what? Which one? Which one? We need to know which one.

[A]

Somebody talking about you. Yeah, I. You know, the thing is. Is, like, that just a part of the household.

[B]

It is. And I think that with us talking about what's the south and what's not, all of that takes a play. For me, if you're considered the South, I also do.

[A]

How you feel about Virginia?

[B]

So this is the thing about Virginia. Virginia, much like North Carolina, has been overtaken by many from somewhere else, and they don't adhere to the rules that were already set up in play, and they brought their own rules, and they changed things.

[A]

Like who? Like what? You mean like East Coast?

[B]

North Carolina?

[A]

Yeah, East Coast. East Coast.

[B]

Yeah. Virginia and North Carolina are now east coast places.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think that D.C. used to be where.

[A]

It's a reverse migration.

[B]

It is.

[A]

D.C. left North Carolina, went up north, then came back down.

[B]

So D.C. was bougie. Black folks you left from down South. When you got your money and you moved to D.C. you was high fluting boy. Whoa. You know, your cousin Charles doesn't move to D.C. he's fancy. Yeah, he's fancy. That's where you went to be fancy. You no longer wanted to be the granddaughter of a sharecropper, a pig farmer. You left. You wanted to get away from that. You wanted to. You weren't. Let me say this. I feel like certain cities continue to embody their Southern roots even though they aren't in the south anymore. For instance, Detroit and Chicago are still. When I say in the South, I feel like Detroit, Chicago know. They're kind of included too.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Even though they're not.

[A]

Nah, they kick shit a certain way.

[B]

I, I, I fuck with what C said. Yeah.

[A]

I ain't gonna lie, cuz. Detroit and Chicago, specifically, them two cities.

[B]

Really, they're still Southern. They're just Southern people who move somewhere else.

[A]

I think they acknowledge that though too. That's the difference.

[B]

That's what matters.

[A]

So like, like New Yorkers, they, if you let them tell it, they was always in New York, you know what I'm saying? It's like been double sold forever.

[B]

Never owned a pair of shoe carnivals. What you talking about? I never seen that. Never. Dead ass never had him. Don't know nothing about logs out of here.

[A]

Never.

[B]

Never. They never had single souls. They never had single souls.

[A]

That's true though. They never.

[B]

I never had single souls.

[A]

New York, where you, where you from? Sp. Okay, I aspire first.

[B]

I never have.

[A]

This is a New York right here, man. This.

[B]

What do you mean? What are you calling them that for these uptowns always beneficial. Got them out of Jimmy Jams. Jimmy Jams. I got him out of Jimmy Jazz with jamming jobs. Harlem, Harlem world.

[A]

You got the Coliseum.

[B]

I got him at Jimmy Jam.

[A]

You know what's so funny about.

[B]

Googling? Galga? Me and my man's.

[A]

That's the good sauce.

[B]

I mean like, damn, bro. I got mine and shoe corner.

[A]

My bad. If you understood, like New Yorkers had this thing, they take it serious. What is. They're, they're culturally very heavily influenced by Eastern European. Like, even when it comes to like dialect and accent. I thought that was so fascinating when I found that out because like you niggas is European New York because the way they act is like really like there ain't nobody else in the world that act like that. I would say this, I would say New York niggas and LA niggas are both like so far removed from Southern culture very. That it's like this very. They doing their own things, you know what I'm saying? But they know like the origin story. But it's like they so like, especially like somebody from LA they don't. You is so far away from everybody else in the world.

[B]

So. Yeah, I think that it's because that's.

[A]

Like that moved in Mexico, basically. Yeah.

[B]

I feel like sometimes when you. Sometimes the goal is to remove you from it.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

The goal is to remove you from it. I'm fully aware that everybody's not big on, you know, being proud that they came from a sharecropper or being proud that they came from, you know, the pink farmer.

[A]

Oh, even further than that. Being the descendant of a slave.

[B]

I know they not proud of it. Yeah, that's, you know, that's your thing.

[A]

I'm cool with that shit.

[B]

I'm cool with it. I'm proud of it. Like, I'm super proud of it.

[A]

Like, I take a lot of pride in it.

[B]

It makes me happy to know that when I sit on the back of a pickup truck and I eat peanuts out of a. Out of a bag with a RC Cola can on the back of the truck swinging my feet. My mama used to do that. My grandpa used to do that. His grandpa used to do that. Like, that's a big deal to you. But culturally, that's culture.

[A]

Yeah, that's real culture.

[B]

That's real culture. Like, it's culture that your grandpa had a Sunday car and an everyday truck. That's a cultural thing that we did.

[A]

That is real. Cause I got an everyday truck now. I got a 96F150. That's just for me to get around town. But if we going somewhere, we f. To bust that key out.

[B]

And I'm not saying that.

[A]

It's just that mother got new seat belts in it.

[B]

It's just the way that we did it. Your grandpa got a Cadillac. What kind of car? He got a Cadillac. If he couldn't get a Cadillac, the next best thing to a Cadillac was a Pontiac. Yeah, you got a Pontiac. If you couldn't get a Cadillac and you and your wife go to church on Sunday.

[A]

Yeah, you need something with that act on the.

[B]

Yeah, you and your wife, y' all go on cruises and whatnot. Cadillac, you wash it on Saturday morning doing this. Why you walking a hair done at the beauty parlor? That's what we did culturally.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's the type of stuff.

[A]

It's. It's hella routine.

[B]

It's. It's.

[A]

It's routine, but it's kind of ritualistic.

[B]

You set up. Like. I feel like not being proud of the way that they. I'm proud of the fact that I come from a family that you retire from a factory and then all y' all get trailers and then everybody break them holes in and then it be 10 trailers on the land. And is that fancy to you? No, but is it fancy to me? Hell yeah. Cause I can pop up at any one of them.

[A]

It's community though. It's like real community.

[B]

It's a family reunion. 40 people outside on a Tuesday just cause such and such stopped by Gigi down there. Yeah, I'm about to come on down there for. You know it. Rod down there, Paul down there, Mike down there. Now we got macaroni, everything green. Yeah, now we got macaroni. We got fat back going, yeah, somebody.

[A]

Some of these snapping peas going down.

[B]

And it's 6:30 on a Tuesday.

[A]

Huh. I'mma tell you though, I be kind of proud of like the fact that I know people who, who got whole streets named after their last name.

[B]

That's cool to me.

[A]

Yeah, that shit fire and it be a orange street sign too.

[B]

That's cool to me.

[A]

Yeah, no motherfucking pavement on that. So you better go slow, right?

[B]

Like I think that's amazing.

[A]

Like that shit hard when people, people.

[B]

Say stuff like I'm on dirty ass country kids. I'm proud of them red dirty ass feet. Yeah, I'm proud of them red dirty ass feet. Of me running through the streets with no shoes on. I'm out there having a good ass time.

[A]

It's a lot of, it's a lot of rich trends and culture that come out of that. I, I've been theorizing about this lately. I haven't really publicly said it yet because I still trying to get the idea together because I'm trying to think about like what the consequence or implication of it is. But I'm thinking about like with the times we in that we should have like a reverse great migration. Everybody need to come on back down south.

[B]

So I think that is happening. But see this is the, this is what's going on. Everybody's been coming back down south. But you gotta remember that when you come back down south, you now have brought whatever you was doing up there.

[A]

No, I ain't. No, no, come, come over. Like I act like your ass moving.

[B]

To France, it's, it's not.

[A]

Go get French.

[B]

Everybody comes down.

[A]

You can't come down here.

[B]

We're so welco man that sometimes nobody get. Here we go. Let me go ahead and just get it off my damn chest. Oh, everybody be moving down here. They don't give us the same respect to winning Rome, do As the Romans. You don't do that when you come down here. I can pack my bag and move somewhere else right now and respect every single culture, custom, rule, way of life that they do things in Detroit, St. Louis won't have no problem because I like to come and learn what I'm doing in the city. Come down here and feel like, oh, these slow ass ain't got. Because where I'm from, we used to, we used to do, baby, down here, we doing a little different. Get with it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why you don't want to be doing here? It's, it's always. Well, where I'm from is we get to you from somewhere else. Why you don't give us the same courtesy when you come down here?

[A]

Yeah, because it could never be from like North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and then go to like Chicago and be like, well, North Carolina, this ain't no North Carolina.

[B]

We don't give a about that. They don't care because then their attitude is, well, you're here now. Yeah, they, no, they don't give us that same respect when they come down here. Now mind you, there are some that, that come. It's a lot of them that come and they respect it and they want to learn anyway. Yeah, I respect the southern hospitality and then there's many that you're here for a money grab. So you don't give a fuck about the community around it. You don't care nothing about the culture. You don't respect what we've done because you look at what we've done is not an accomplishment. You don't look at the muscadine vines that's growing on them bushes over there and see all of those houses and they're meal heel shanty houses, but they're still super nice. That's not luxury to you.

[A]

Yeah. So you want to tear down. They come from like luxury to you.

[B]

Is a brownstone, a high rise, and that's not what it is down here. 13 double wide bricked in trailers on 13 acres of land is luxury down here, bro. Paid off truck with a four wheeler.

[A]

No, that's living, bro.

[B]

What?

[A]

I ain't gonna lie you up.

[B]

What you're up.

[A]

Yeah, I think that, I think that the thing is, is that when you migrate from the south and you go into these like metropolitan cities that you are, you become a super capitalist. So you don't even, you don't even see the value in land because ain't no land, you know what I'm saying? No trees. For real. Ain't no, you know what I mean? There's no nature. So everything they see when they come down here is something to be bought and flipped.

[B]

Right. They don't see the. They don't see the. The true value and richness in that house that's sitting there on that corner. That man, his family has been making moonshine in that house, in that distillery. He ain't charging nobody. He giving it out. He charging for the fish plates. The fish plate is $10. You get three pieces of whiting, a piece of light bread, and you might get some macaroni or some tater tots or something like that with it. And then you get a canned beer or a cup of Kool Aid or a sweet tea. $10. You don't see the value in what that man doing. Our community does. He's been doing that for years. Ezel has been sitting out there cleaning deer on the back of that truck for 35 years. He's gonna make deer hash. No, it's not D hit regulated. No. We don't know where he got that deer from. Yes, I'm gonna have some.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's gonna be good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you want some or not?

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

They don't see the value in that. They don't see the value in that man selling E and J shots on Sunday because liquor can't be sold on Sunday. And he said E and J shots and bumpy face, aka Secrets Gen. $2 a shot.

[A]

I ain't gonna lie, man. That's a tough Sunday.

[B]

We dance. The who's making love to your old lady? Why you were out making love. The fish ain't gonna be good if they not playing that. Yeah, that's culture. You want to tear that down and put a Starbucks there?

[A]

No, I ain't gonna lie. I'm. I'm a big proponent of setting new developments on fire. But that's just me.

[B]

I mean, I just.

[A]

The s. I think that's the easiest way to combat that. It's like, oh, you've been up highrise over here. Burn that down. That ain't nothing but wood. No way going to go up like that. That going to go like that.

[B]

If we had somebody to do tours, like, you know how you go to a big metropolitan, they give you a tour of the city. I wish that we had, like, tours that was like tours of the south, like the country, rural south. And you could go to a liquor house.

[A]

Yeah, but that's the thing, though. Like a. Wouldn't like that.

[B]

You'll be surprised how many People come down here from somewhere else and they don't have an inside person to show them how it is. And then when they get one and they be like this, what the hell y' all were doing back here? I seen the smoke coming over the field for months. Y' all out here having bonfires and.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Frying fish, doing car shows. Yeah. That's what we.

[A]

Well, I think, I think there's a refinement to be done then. Like if you do, if you will. Because I think when shit like be happening in Mississippi and stuff like that, I'd be thinking like, man, they don't care. My need to be in Mississippi.

[B]

No, it's plenty in Mississippi. They don't care because that's who's in Mississippi. They don't. They don't care about things that go wrong in Mississippi. The right things that go wrong in Mississippi.

[A]

On.

[B]

A lot of people don't realize that the south is a very, very black place. The south is very black.

[A]

Oh, no, that's what I'm saying. It's concentrated to like.

[B]

The south is very black.

[A]

Yeah. Hell yeah.

[B]

They don't. People don't. Don't think about that because when they show you the south, they show you Sydney Sweeney.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They don't show you me and you. Because mo. A lot of the south looks like me and you. Like the people who lived in Atlanta, for the most part, their family is from where I'm from. Bum, usa. Red Dirt General Store. Dollar General.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Cause my folks, the city closes at 8.

[B]

Most people don't come from cool ass Atlanta, Cool ass Houston, Cool ass Memphis. They come from Covington, Georgia.

[A]

Yeah. Hell yeah.

[B]

Woodruff, South Carolina. Greenwood. Yeah.

[A]

Like Valdosta.

[B]

That's what makes up most of the South.

[A]

Yeah. Cause it, you know, you start going, that's what makes. Start getting down there by Albany and like that, it get a little different.

[B]

The, the big. The big city, like faint. I call them fancy cities. Atlanta, Houston. Those are few and far and in between, like those are the cool places that.

[A]

But I'll be telling that all the time. Like the, the. The. The. The south is made up of the. You don't see on the map.

[B]

Correct. They don't show you the real South. They don't show you. Like when they show you the south, they show you. You know, they had a honky tonk bar and they, they boot scoop boogieing and they're matching denim and nobody's clothes is dirty and they've been in the truck doing seats in a F150 and a Ford Ranger, and they've been doing donuts in it. And nobody's clothes has stains on it. Not a hair out of place. They don't show you the real south, that it's me, you, and then somebody else. And we getting fish from the gas station, and we in there getting fish, paying a bill, paying the cable bill and getting food and buying CDs and getting shirts and shoes all at the gas station.

[A]

I mean, one better, like a good night is like we in a Walmart parking lot playing the music loud as drinking liquor when Walmart used to be 24 hours. Yeah. Hell yeah. You can't do that now.

[B]

You go to Walmart and you have a bow. Everybody pull. They don't stay cars. Everybody pull their tea toss up.

[A]

You open the door anywhere we talked about this last time. Anywhere where it's like 20 free parking spaces, bro. We finna feel that.

[B]

Turn it off.

[A]

You.

[B]

You meet like, you parking lot pimp. You go to the gas station. Everybody hang out at the gas station. You have a bow. It's the meetup. That's where you. That's small town fun.

[A]

That's Carrollton for real.

[B]

Like, small town fun.

[A]

I ain't gonna lie. At the Club 31, you go to that quick trip in Carrollton, you eating hot dogs.

[B]

Man, the gas station used to be way more lit than the club.

[A]

Hell yeah. Cause. Cause it's light.

[B]

The gas station, it was a light in the space.

[A]

Cause it's like in the club. It's dark and it's too many niggas that want to spray. Keep your head on the swivel and everything.

[B]

Everybody. You got your pockets of who's who. You get to see who's doing.

[A]

And then Club 31 was different. Cause you got street niggas and college kids and know.

[B]

Yeah, you can just.

[A]

So you got who Crip and who queue in that motherfucker, right?

[B]

They in there strolling and they stomping the yard.

[A]

I ain't going to lie. No Southern Don't Crip while Southern. Shoot, that's all. They ain't got no dance. I bet. Man. Bro, that's so funny. That was like a real dissertation.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You should write a. You should start a sub stack.

[B]

I. I take. I take.

[A]

You had your. I take.

[B]

Pride in the south, man. I know a lot of people don't look at it like it's something to be proud of. Yeah, y'. All. Lowest in this and lowest in there. Okay. While we weren't at school because our grandparents didn't have access to this. Didn't have access to that. Y' all aren't recognizing the valuable skills that we have here that built this country, that people are still utilizing to this day. The south is. Is the. It's where all culture comes from. For America.

[A]

America.

[B]

And nobody puts. Nobody puts enough respect on that.

[A]

That's real.

[B]

Everybody else came here and got what they wanted. They used and abused her, and then they left. And then for the ones of us that did stay, we stayed here and made it great and did what we could and kept what we could for ourselves and made it the great epicenter that it is again. And then everybody comes back down here and takes their little piece of it and then shits on it.

[A]

Yeah, that's what. That's what kind of happened to Atlanta. It's like.

[B]

That's definitely what happened to Atlanta.

[A]

Of bought Atlanta.

[B]

I seen somebody talking about it online that. It said that. I can't remember who it was, but he said he feels sorry for somebody who, as a black person, if you didn't get to grow up in a place like Atlanta. Because in Atlanta, your blackness isn't. It's primary, so you never have to talk about it, because this is. This was a black city. You took pride in yourself in a different way in Atlanta because you seen the hustle around you all the time. Time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You grow up with a different mindset. When you are a black child growing up in a black city, for sure, you move differently. I will say that as a kid who came from a rural town, coming to Atlanta was always a different feeling for me.

[A]

Yeah. The.

[B]

The pride that would beam in my face when we would hit the city limits of Atlanta, and I would see every single financial stage in life for a black person.

[A]

Hell, yeah.

[B]

A CEO, a lawyer.

[A]

The energy's so different. It was like 04 Atlanta just. It was just something that was different. Yeah. See, I was coming out here since I was a baby, but in like, 99, 2000, when it. It's like, I ain't. I wasn't really like, outside. Outside I was with my cousins and. But when I'm like 13, 14, I'm kind of going and doing myself.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's like the energy just so different, bro.

[B]

It's very different.

[A]

You love that. It's intoxicating. It. It's very intoxicating because you do feel like anything possible.

[B]

Anything's possible. Like, I was born. I'm.

[A]

I'm older.

[B]

I was born in 82. We used to come to Atlanta and I don't been to Atlanta in the 80s, the 90s, the 2000s, the tens. Atlanta, 80s, 90s and 2000s. I remember coming here as a child that completely shaped how I viewed achievements for black people. I come from a rural town that. Your blackness is. It's not celebrated. It wasn't. You're not. It's not celebrated in them Podunk towns. I came from a family that instilled it in me to celebrate it. But Atlanta was that city that when.

[A]

You came, it was visible, the celebration of it all.

[B]

It was a celebratory city of blackness. Your blackness was so predominant that you. I feel like when you came to Atlanta as a black kid, the blackness was so predominant and around you, it completely changed. Change the societal scale for you because you're no longer worried about toning down something. You're no longer worried about. Am I being judged because of this? You're now on a level playing field of just worrying about your skill set, Just worrying about. Because once you take the racial stigma that a lot of black children have to deal with, and you're in a city that celebrates who you are, now you're just worrying about the. The normal.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, like what you gonna be type.

[B]

Right? That's different.

[A]

There's a whole lot of.

[B]

That's why I feel like Atlanta children, Atlanta kids are different. They're. They're natural born hustlers. Because they grow up.

[A]

They don't question their black, they don't question their blackness. It's not like question it.

[B]

They stand in it.

[A]

They see it everywhere.

[B]

Everything's attainable to an Atlanta kid because they see it around you and they.

[A]

See a plethora of people just like them. Whether they do it in the street way or whether they do it of the corporate way.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Or even in an artistic way, it's all feasible, you know what I'm saying?

[B]

And then you have the opportunities around you to see an actual person doing it.

[A]

Yeah, because I think that is also a thing about the south where it's like, you see that with a lot of artists. It's like, if I'm making with the art, I got to get to Atlanta.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That's like growing up, growing up in the, in the 90s, it was, I got to get to New York, but now, like, for a black artist, I gotta get to Atlanta.

[B]

I gotta get to Atlanta. Yeah, right.

[A]

And. And that's. That's in all mediums of art, you know what I'm saying? That could be film, that could be music, that could Be like physical media. Anything about it. It's like, if I can get to Atlanta, I can make this happen, because I ain't gonna hold you. Like, I was standing Alabama when I was just doing this audio.

[B]

It's not as feasible.

[A]

And I was like, thought process. I was like, bro, I gotta get back to Atlanta. Because if I. If I go, when I get back, I got my friends there and I got people I know I can make this shake. You know what I'm saying? And like, that what it was. But a lot of the artists, you know, like, we were talking to Akeem Ali, he said the same thing. Like, I had to leave. Big Crit left, David Banner left.

[B]

It's a ceiling for you in a smaller town.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, you can. And that's what Ariel J. Was saying. Today we had Ariel J in here, and she said, you know, for some people, there's an allure to being a big fish in a small pond, but for some people, they want to swim with the sharks. And, like, you got to go to somewhere where sharks is.

[B]

But I think that one thing that people forget, that when you. Like I was saying about the dude online, he said, when you come from a place of Atlanta, you. You just grow up celebrating your blackness. I think that when you come to it, he said, he made a very, very valid statement. He said, Atlanta reminds you that you a la. Helps you forget it. I said, boy, you better cook with that one talking. I can't think of his name it too.

[A]

I know what you're talking about, but, yeah, that's some real Atlanta.

[B]

Atlanta and D.C. at one time, in the 80s and the 90s, Atlanta and D.C. were two black cities that were, for me, celebrated blackness in two different ways. Chocolate City Atlanta celebrated blackness. And you still remain Southern, but you was a city Southerner. DC you became the Upper Crest Black. When you. When you live there, you were Jack and Jill Black. You were HBCU Black.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

D9 Black.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Excellence in its.

[A]

Yes. Trying to move to PG County.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Atlanta black was mover and a shaker. You could have been a real estate agent, an attorney, a drug dealer or a scammer. I don't know which one you are.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I know that you get into the bag.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Because the. The. The stigma and ain't even stigma. It's always been known that Atlanta and Detroit are hustlers.

[A]

Yeah. Like, always been hustled. Oh, that's always like, when. When.

[B]

Not. Not in a bad way for some people. But y' all are gonna get.

[A]

No, it's gonna get some money like always. I always tell niggas, like, especially when we was younger, like, bro, it's a finesse city. Like, if you ain't got no mouthpiece and you don't know how to make it happen, you're a schnoozer. Yeah. And niggas finna get over on you, right? And the worst thing, you never want to hear no Atlanta be like, shut your country ass up. Cause that mean you wanna out house. You out, you out. If you. If a. In Atlanta think you country, they really think you just green. Like, I could just do. I could say I could tell you anything.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

I can get over on you.

[B]

And the rest of the country think that too. And that's why they hit that Southern accent. And then they think, oh, yeah, I got me one.

[A]

Hey, baby.

[B]

Don't ever think that, C. Yeah. Hey. The best snake oil cel come from down here.

[A]

The best snake oil 7 you ever met.

[B]

From Mississippi.

[A]

Yeah. They somewhere where the dirt red is a. I'm trying to tell you. And they come from a long line of snake oil sales.

[B]

My daddy was a snake oil salesman.

[A]

My grandson gonna be a snake oil. We have a long line of this shit.

[B]

A long line of snake oil salesman.

[A]

He proud of it, I think. Okay, so before we wrap, we do have to revisit.

[B]

Okay, I'm in.

[A]

Last time we had the Mount Rushmore Southern rap artist.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Lot of feedback, a lot of disagreement, lot of agreement.

[B]

Very much so.

[A]

But I wanna say this.

[B]

Well, hold on.

[A]

Wait, wait. We ain't gonna go Mount Rushmore. We just gonna go top five.

[B]

Hold on. Put a pin in it before we go. You. I didn't. That was rude to me. We talked about the south and how I felt about it, and we never came back to what you thought about it. We just ranted on. You just allowed me to rant.

[A]

Hey, you hey. I'm just. Hey. I'm just a hoax.

[B]

About what was the south, and I didn't even take the courtesy.

[A]

I like what you think.

[B]

You. You thought what I thought.

[A]

Oh, yeah. No, we're on the same place. You know, I. I don't.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

Listen, the reason why I have that theory is because I ain't leaving. Right? The reason why I would. Would prefer, like, a reverse grade. My Grace. Because I want you to come down here because I'm not trying to live where y' all live.

[B]

Will say they hate the south and.

[A]

Move to Houston, man. Come on.

[B]

I Hate the South.

[A]

I'm not trying to move to New York. I'm not trying to move to Detroit. I'm not trying to move to la. I will consider Chicago. I'm not gonna lie.

[B]

I can't handle snow, for real.

[A]

But that's the only thing that really me up about it. And y' all by that big ass stupid la. Like, I'm straight on that. Yeah. So like I would say consider because summertime Chicago is just something to experience.

[B]

But I heard it was one.

[A]

Oh my God. It's like it's Chicago.

[B]

I heard y' all been gatekeeping, how great the city is.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's continue. I'm gonna start starting propaganda because that's.

[B]

What I heard they've been doing. They said that them stats ain't real.

[A]

Hey, don't you know you've been putting.

[B]

Out to keep folks from coming up there and getting to the real spots because Chicago people will not share the, the little areas.

[A]

But if you go and you tap in with a real Chicagoan, you have a good time.

[B]

How you gonna find one if they won't even tell you? Like, they just.

[A]

I know some folks. I can put you on. I. I just think about this before we get into this. First of all, yeah. Like I said, I'm not leaving this.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Period. Well, another thing is this because me and you both said the same thing. Like as far as like up north and down south, we both have people in our family that's from up north and we both live down south for a long time and we both know like ain't trying to live in New York. For real. No real rap, like on top of each other, bruh. At all. I need space. I need seasons. I need New York. No, hell no.

[B]

Newport, New York is.

[A]

I need a livable airport. I need a eight dollar pack of cigarettes and.

[B]

Eight dollars.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How much are they in New York?

[A]

20. I kill a for a cigarette dollars for cigarettes, man. That crazy.

[B]

What's in them?

[A]

I' ma say this, I'mma tell you something. I. I can enjoy anything for a moment. Yeah. Because when I was in New York just now, I was walking around Harlem, I was having a good time. I was like walking around Harlem.

[B]

It was cool. I had a good time.

[A]

Langston Hughes was here. But like after two, three days, I'm like, man, I gotta get back home, bro.

[B]

So.

[A]

Cause like I like going outside without no shoes on, bro. You can't do that in New York, bro.

[B]

The rats.

[A]

You can finish step on in that, man. It Smell like Pierre.

[B]

The rats is too free for me, man.

[A]

I just feel like, man, it's a rat city, man. Listen, man, it's like the same way we got deer.

[B]

It's not like what are them n got rats.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Where's the cats and they.

[B]

Why they not stay in the poppy store?

[A]

I'mma tell you. I'mma tell you. If we. If you can move Australia to New York, you would get rid of them rats in a matter of weeks. Because they have a feral cat infestation in Australia where they. Them cats is up the ecosystem because they're eating all the birds. Yeah, that real like it's out there that are contracted by the government to hunt cats.

[B]

I got a cat, it's a cat in our neighborhood right now. I promise you. Hey, he'll handle it. He'll handle it. He will. He's a kid.

[A]

Bull. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Poppy store cats is too fat and lazy, bro.

[B]

Like this the cat in our neighborhood.

[A]

They just keeping them out the store. Yeah, they ain't clearing out the block though, right? Just the store. No, you gotta do. We need. We need some trained up ass kittens. You know, we gotta start training the kittens to hunt rats.

[B]

So for me it was how everybody was. And again that's how they knew I was a tourist. They also knew I was a tourist because I had a very expressive face. I've been told that when I leave the south and go to other cities, they said that's how we know you're not from here. You have a very. One of those faces. That's the southern you. Okay, so it's. Everybody was so desensitized to the rats.

[A]

I ain't.

[B]

Everybody was so deep. Like I'm walking through Times Square and these is. They. Hey, they going back and forth.

[A]

They are part of the catching the park.

[B]

They're catching the traffic.

[A]

Yeah, they'll wait. They'll wait for the cross. They're coming in and out like they don't need jaywalk.

[B]

Nobody's saying anything. I. Pearls clutched. Yeah, pearls clutched.

[A]

Well, because in Atlanta you could see. The only place in Atlanta you really gonna see rats is in the Martyr station. Okay, now you go to that five point station. It's like they all meet there. Cuz them some big ass rats in that mar station.

[B]

And I can take a big rat, but it's a.

[A]

It's a. It's a rat and a pigeon combination where it just makes sense.

[B]

They working together.

[A]

It make you feel like you in a City. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

I don't. The pigeon. I feel differently about the pigeon than I do.

[A]

The rat niggas done bred pigeons out of flight.

[B]

Yeah, I. I feel. I feel bad for the pigeon because the pigeon is really just. He's the black man of the bird community. They used him. They. They brought that man over here. That man was minding his business. They used that man for war services, and when they didn't need him no more, they just threw him out. And now they out here with propaganda, telling everybody, oh, that lazy. He don't want number handouts. He wants you to feed him.

[A]

They say, like, this ain't even a real bird. This is CIA. He got cameras in his eyes.

[B]

You see it? You see what they did?

[A]

Yeah. No, they did them wrong. Used them in a beard. Stay woke now. You staying woke. Hey, look, I'm saying. I'm gonna tell you something funny, Big K. You know, I always talk with my hands. So I'd be talking, and I'd be like, ah. And I'll be doing this and that.

[B]

Why you throwing up?

[A]

Listen, I did. I. It's a screenshot of me on Twitter. Like, you see that hand movement? Oh, damn. Now they got you.

[B]

What is it? The behemoths?

[A]

I told the. I said damn. I said, damn. You stuck in 2011 conspiracy theories. Like, I quite literally talk with my hands. This. But they got like, a screenshot of me. Like, I'm like this. And they, like, see, he trying to tell you. He trying to show you next weekend. Oh. Oh, I hope not. They don't know me. I'm scared of. Like, that. If you invite me somewhere where I can't know the directions beforehand, I don't want to be there. If we got to meet here and drive there, I don't want to go. If you got to put.

[B]

If you got to put a paper sack over my head, I don't want to be there.

[A]

Got to ride with something. Just going to stay a secret.

[B]

Count me out.

[A]

Out. All right.

[B]

Cat me out. Okay, back to it.

[A]

All right.

[B]

What we doing?

[A]

We did the Mount Rushmore.

[B]

What was it?

[A]

Southern black artists. Rappers.

[B]

So we doing southern rappers now?

[A]

No, we doing producers today.

[B]

I thought we did producers last time.

[A]

I don't think. I think it was rappers because it was a Scarface.

[B]

We did producers.

[A]

Because then I was talking about Scarface.

[B]

Jazzy J or Juicy J. I'm sorry.

[A]

I think we did.

[B]

We did producers because I said Juicy J. Timberland. No, Juicy J. Pharrell.

[A]

I think we did do.

[B]

Did we do? Did we do?

[A]

I think we did both. I think we did. We did do both. All right, how about this? How about this? How about this? In no order, because we all know who number one is. Let's do Southern rap groups.

[B]

Okay. You know it's the Versus tonight.

[A]

Cash Money. Yes. It's Cash Money versus no Limit.

[B]

Cash Money versus no Limit.

[A]

Cash Money is finna wipe the flow with them niggas. I ain't gonna lie. No Limit. It have a. Like.

[B]

It's not.

[A]

It's the. The. These have. I respect it, bro, because they came up with the worst rappers of all time. Like, the worst rapping that you ever heard in your life. And they just like. We made a million dollars, though, because we won't stop selling these tapes.

[B]

Masterpiece showed you in real time. I'm gonna make sure that my brother go with me wherever I go.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Masterpiece showed you in real time. I don't give a. That you don't like my brother. That's my brother. And we spank ass and I'm taking them with me. I don't care that my brother Charge.

[A]

It to the game.

[B]

I don't care. Take it.

[A]

Why did they name him?

[B]

I don't care that my brother is not rapping on beat. Take it.

[A]

That rapping on the. The one and the three.

[B]

I don't care that my brother is rapping and cursive. Take it.

[A]

Yeah. Not a real rap, though. That's real loyalty, though.

[B]

Because I don't care that you don't like what me and my brother doing from the Calio Projects. Take it. Yeah, that's what it is.

[A]

I with it and his son and see murder. I see D.C. college.

[B]

I see D.C. college. Right. And he gave us the. The show.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he gave us.

[A]

Nah, Master P did his bro. We gotta represent that with the first I ever seen with an elevator in his house.

[B]

I don't like the. Okay, here we go again. I'm not. Listen, y', all, I'm a Southern enthusiast. I'm always gonna champion my community. But if Master P had have been from a big city, they would speak with more reverence about him. They would speak with more. They would speak with.

[A]

I'm gonna tell you what it is. Because he. Because he was from the south and he outdid them in business.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like in a time.

[A]

In a time where all them was like, the only people that was really doing it. Like, that was what, Death Row and Rockefeller?

[B]

Not even Rockefeller. Yeah.

[A]

Because Master p, it was 99, right?

[B]

Nah, Mr. Ice Cream man, this is.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

97. Tru that.

[A]

Hold that. Yeah, that holding that like this.

[B]

Master P. So I think that the lineup is amazing. Listen, them not doing it in New Orleans is crazy to me.

[A]

That's insane. That's wild. That's insane. Not doing it in New Orleans is dropping the ball. What are they doing? Because, like, they're doing it in Vegas. That's whack. That corny.

[B]

It's too show timing in Vegas.

[A]

Also too. It just feel like a money grab when you're doing it right.

[B]

Why'd you do it? You should have did it in New Orleans.

[A]

Should have did it. Super dumb.

[B]

Exactly. It's a bunch of very.

[A]

Mercedes Benz didn't play that.

[B]

They didn't.

[A]

Caesar.

[B]

No Limit is a Gen X group.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

Cash money to me is more millennial.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. N. They're my. Though.

[B]

It's a generational also, too.

[A]

But like, just comparatively music wise, like, number one stunner block is hot. You got bg, you got juvenile. You got Lil Wayne, you got many fresh produce. Disrespect everything.

[B]

By no means are we going to disrespect no Limit and act like they're not at them.

[A]

No, they got some. They got some. Nah. Under 99 was like. And when I was. When I was. When I was 8 years old, you couldn't tell me I knew every verse.

[B]

Cause you was the colonel of the tank, bro. Listen, you got them big things. You did. You had a no limit charm, though.

[A]

No, but I. I was like, vetted in. I was really just like, every day I woke up and I was like, I'm gonna get that mystical verse down. Pack today.

[B]

I had on red fatigues. Red fatigues with little boots.

[A]

Me. Your ex had them joints. Where you get them from?

[B]

Me ex had them French roll. French roll in my hair.

[A]

Ready for tea, man. It's stacked socks, man. All right, we're gonna do top five southern groups.

[B]

Southern groups.

[A]

Okay, Groups.

[B]

Group groups.

[A]

That means two or more is two or more now.

[B]

Oh, oh. Now let me ask you.

[A]

So do you count big time as the hot boys on the same group, or are they different groups?

[B]

They are two.

[A]

That's two different groups.

[B]

Okay, okay, okay, now. And I have another. Am I allowed to count Dungeon Family?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Even though they are made up of a myriad of.

[A]

I mean, I would say. I would say then we get into, like, labels, right? Or like factions. Now we gonna say. We're gonna say group.

[B]

Say goody Mob?

[A]

Yeah. Cuz Dungeon Family is a faction like. Like. Like Slip and Slide. It's a faction. You know what I'm saying? Even if they was official or unofficial labels, you know what I'm saying?

[B]

I like it. I like it. I just, like, know the rules.

[A]

I'm a big cat. You can go first. You pop it off. No, go ahead. Now we let GG Pop it off. GG Pop it off.

[B]

What we doing? You said top five.

[A]

Yeah, top. Top five.

[B]

Top five.

[A]

In no order. Ain't got to be no.

[B]

In no particular order. 36 Mafia, UGK, Hot Boys, Goody Mob, and Cash Money. Okay, well, you know, I feel like. I feel like we should not be able to use cash money or no limit. I feel like those should be like. I think we should have at least.

[A]

Well, those are group. Those affections. No Limit is a thing, but I.

[B]

Feel like we should Cash money. We should have one group that. That nobody can say because everybody's gonna throw them in there.

[A]

Yeah. That's like saying, pocking Biggie for Top five. You can't put cash. Yeah, I don't think you can put. You can put. You can't put cash money or.

[B]

Yeah, because it's like everybody's gonna say that. So I feel like you can't put that one in there because it's already goaded.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's vetted in. Okay. So I want.

[A]

That's real.

[B]

Okay. So ugk, Goody Mob, three Six Mafia.

[A]

Yeah. You gotta go out and see.

[B]

Hear me out, guys. Oh, hear me out. Oh, I love Outcast.

[A]

I ain't trying to hear.

[B]

Listen, I respect Outcast. I'm not saying they're not a great group. Generationally. Outcast was my older cousin's group, so I heard Outcast. I grew up with it, but I went more Goody Mob than I did Outkast because Outkast was my cousin in the room lacing up his sneakers with the two laces. It's like that. Yeah. He's. He's back there doing all of that. I'm up front with God. It's so hard living his life. We in two different places in Atlanta.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But we both in Atlanta, so that's why I'm not saying they don't belong there. They didn't. They weren't prevalent in my life. I don't have enough information about it too.

[A]

Okay, I got you.

[B]

Can I say that? That's real and I know a lot about outkast.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But again, generationally.

[A]

Well, also too it depends on it matter what you listen to too, right?

[B]

It mattered. I was a Goody Mob girl. Goody Mob and Cool Breeze. The C stands for Cool Breeze is known as a champ, the greatest Calhoun, the coolest cutter at camp.

[A]

Yeah, because like you, I would probably put.

[B]

Put.

[A]

I would put outcast and not put goodmob and see. Yeah, I think it's a taste thing, you know? Cuz I know Goody Mob and I know they hits and I know and I've listened to their albums, but yeah, I resonate more with Outcast. Yeah, man. Yeah, I'mma go honorable mention field m.

[B]

Oh, I'm so sick of being lonely every night with my man. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Nappy roots.

[A]

That's honorable mention. Honorable mention. Hey, you could do honorable mention. Cry mob. Hey.

[B]

Oh, we knocking and bucking and ready to fight.

[A]

Stos pumps in the club.

[B]

I would like to.

[A]

They had to make that distinction in the club. The club in that.

[B]

If you guys would like to take time out of your day and go back and look at that video. Not one stiletto in the video.

[A]

It was not.

[B]

Not.

[A]

It wasn't.

[B]

Stiletto was present.

[A]

It wasn't. You got one.

[B]

You got a lot of heels and pumps.

[A]

You gotta love. You gotta love one little.

[B]

You got one. Yike.

[A]

They had no FY1 heels anymore.

[B]

They had on sensible, safe, reporter heels. They had on pumps, they had on mutsy tootsies. They had on church heels in there. There was. They were almost mad.

[A]

Yeah, they're fo one hills, man. Nasty. It's a certain video in my mind.

[B]

Stop, stop, stop. But two bought them Jordan heels.

[A]

I believe it.

[B]

I bought them.

[A]

I had see through air force ones too.

[B]

The jealous, the man jellies, man.

[A]

Them get old and you start. You remember when you get them get old and then you'll just start throwing them hoes on and take the trash out, right?

[B]

They start turning yellow on the inside side.

[A]

The h start rolling over. Never had them.

[B]

They start looking like boxing gloves.

[A]

Them h start rolling over. The. The players just start shrinking mine out.

[B]

The trunk so the soul will come off them hoes if you walk in them long enough. Like I was getting them out the trunk. Two for 80.

[A]

Oh, two for 80. That's such a deal.

[B]

Good deal.

[A]

Yeah, that's. Remember when you get some white for us, it's two for 90. Two for 90 from the man from the sock man.

[B]

Yeah, my homeboy was selling them out the trunk.

[A]

He was selling them sock man get 200 pairs of socks for $20.80 nine though. Yeah. Champs had a 289 deal. Yeah. And you get your five T. You get your five tees for 25. Five for 25. Was a man. That was it, bro. That was it. And you gotta leave the stick on them. Gotta leave a stick on. It's not a tall tee if it don't come with that stick.

[B]

Jabot jeans.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

You could get.

[A]

I remember the first pair of jabots I ever bought. I wasn't bitching for a week straight.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

I was everywhere in them hugs. Cause you gotta break them hoes in. I ain't gonna lie. There's a store when you first buy em, they'll look little stiff. You know that little. They're a little slim in the ways, big in the hip. Yeah.

[B]

They are walking. They're like Jean pocketbooks. Like.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can put your whole life in. The whole life. I remember a had a goddamn notebook in his.

[B]

You got.

[A]

Yeah. A composition notebook.

[B]

Pull it right out.

[A]

Right in that back pocket.

[B]

I said, God, you put a scale over here, they doing head over there. Put all kinds of.

[A]

You can live your life in them jabos, bro.

[B]

Like a bar.

[A]

I'mma say feel my. My honorable mention.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. My number one gonna be outcast. My number two gonna be ugk. Okay. My number three gonna be three six Mafia.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

My number four.

[B]

See, that's what I. I got the four. And then I back cuz like what I gave you.

[A]

You. It's a couple of. It's a couple of like, like some lesser known type vibes.

[B]

I feel like that's not saying Jodeci is very disrespectful.

[A]

Ah. I mean, you could go Jagged Edge for real if you wanted to.

[B]

We didn't listen. None of them.

[A]

Where you at? I'm trying to think of it because it's got to be somebody.

[B]

We leaving out, man.

[A]

For my five. I think we. I think we got. I think I gotta put. I think I got. I'm gonna definitely put Goody Marvin now. Okay.

[B]

So we unanimous on Good.

[A]

Yeah, you know, unanimous. And then. No. Well, yeah. Usually came my number two for sure.

[B]

No particular order though.

[A]

It's. It's a. It's a group.

[B]

UGK, 36 Mafia and. And Goody Mob. Or we're all in agreement.

[A]

Yeah. And since we can't include like the hot boys and like that, like. Because that would have been.

[B]

Those two groups are there.

[A]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[B]

It's the fourth and the fifth place.

[A]

I'mma go Webby and Boosie, man. That's not a group, though. It might as well be.

[B]

Certainly a group.

[A]

It's not a group, bro. Listen, bro. Not a group to me. Officially a group. They officially a group now. Official understanding.

[B]

Just say trio fam. We gonna put trio faction.

[A]

I ain't gonna hold you. I'm gonna go psc. You going psc.

[B]

Oh, okay. I forgot all about them boys. Wait a minute.

[A]

I respect psc. I respect. I respect psc. If we was gonna turn up, I go, I. I might go Lil John Eastside boys, though. Oh, my God. You can go to the John east side boys all day, but I'm gonna go for my taste. Psc. Okay, okay. I can go for that.

[B]

Okay. I can respect it.

[A]

I can go for. It's a lot of groups out here that had them one hit wonders like. Like the. That made you gonna love me and you and you. Yeah, and you. They had us. Yeah.

[B]

I didn't say them.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I' look this while I'm looking at n like, what N N I. I ain't going to young blood. I'm looking at n like, huh? I would. I could. We could go young bloods for sure. I'mma say for my taste, I'mma go outkast, ugk3s mafia, goody mob, psc. Okay. Honorable mention. Field mob. Okay. All right. The first one, I'm going. A lot of people call them one hit wonders, but they really not if you listen to the album. I'm going dirty.

[B]

Do you count? Dirty is down south.

[A]

Dirty down south.

[B]

They're from Atlanta.

[A]

They from Montgomery, Alabama.

[B]

You're right.

[A]

I'm thinking about dirty. Dirty, dirty, dirty.

[B]

I know that y' all feel me now. You right. I'm thinking about.

[A]

If you listen to the album, I'm.

[B]

Thinking about doing that.

[A]

I don't be wanting to hear that. All right, all right. I'm going dirty.

[B]

When a dirty boy drop better hit the floor.

[A]

We better hit the flow, man. Come on, son. You with this.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

Hey, that was I with it, but now that would have never crossed my mind. I heard you, though. Heard you, though.

[B]

Oh, my God. How dare me? Damn, that's a great list already.

[A]

I knew we was missing, so we did this on on the fly. That why you went last?

[B]

So you can think our head and not our hearts? Because we really see a like me trying to get money till I get.

[A]

Rich grinding with a couple hundred kids and admitted that's what I'M saying down forever Hustle. I keep a big old Peter heater. That was my. That was my. All right.

[B]

What they did was. It's like candy.

[A]

Nah, they go crazy. I ain't gonna lie. Damn. That is like classic. Nah, we had to take wait slow with. So we're gonna take PSC out and we're gonna put eight by mjg because I just seen her hearing. You know the only thing I'm really thinking about. Hey, do your thing. I just got that. That song is so hard. So many hits, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got. They got hella hits.

[B]

Talking and faking. Oh my God.

[A]

N everybody. Yeah, I'm going. Of course. UGK Outkast. I'm gonna start a pot with this one. All right. Clips. Okay. So. So because of her conversation earlier, I didn't say that I'm stirring because I was. No, no, that's not stirring a pot at all because no. Yes. Clips. So we gonna move goody mob out and we gonna move the clips in and we gonna move them up as such.

[B]

Other.

[A]

We moving them up. I'm going clips at 2.

[B]

Okay. Because you gotta respect it.

[A]

Outcast. Outcast clips. UGK 36 Mafia A by MJG. I like that list. That's a great list. I like that list. That's the list. I like that list. That's the list. I like that list.

[B]

I'm not. And then make sure that you put that. We did. You were not allowed to say boys.

[A]

Digital app or some of your notes. Screenshot it and post it. I bet you I'm posting on threads right now.

[B]

Yeah, I just. And make sure you say honorable that.

[A]

You were the honorable mention. Honorable mention is you wasn't allowed to say cash money or.

[B]

Or hot boys.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Couldn't say them.

[A]

Cuz n this clip don't come out, man. That.

[B]

Yeah, if they go, they go.

[A]

We going. We going to chop it like that. So excluding cash money and no limit. Because they already goaded. Because they goaded. They goaded. Yeah. We got honorable mention. Field mob number one Outcast, two clips. Three ugk. Four was. Four was Clips. Was it young blood. It wasn't young bloods.

[B]

We said young bloods.

[A]

No, no, no, no. We just not top five. We literally just said.

[B]

Three six Mafia.

[A]

Okay. No, that's what it was. It was one outcast, two clips. Three ugk four eight by mjg. Five. No, four three six Mafia five eight by mjg. Yeah, that's a list. That's a goddamn list. That's a hell of a list.

[B]

And then with the honorable mentions, I feel like we got it out.

[A]

We got a couple honorable mentions. Quite a couple.

[B]

I. I feel like there's a lot of honorable mentions. You're right. That. That were not stated.

[A]

Niggas don't even remember the had. The. One of the first respected white rappers in the south is Lil White.

[B]

Lil White.

[A]

Lil White. Yeah, that look. That look. Cracker Corral.

[B]

Lil White. Okay, okay.

[A]

I say fer.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Sometimes I say stuff just to see what Ferg going to do, but. Yeah, man. All right. We. We on our. We had time. We got to get going on. Thank you, boys. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Because I sang to the top of my lungs every day. This is a robbery. A robbery. A robbery. Robbery, robbery. Now get on the ground. Give me that wallet there. Hush your mouth.

[A]

Yeah, that's definitely some Florida.

[B]

Every day. Every day. And I was saying it so loud.

[A]

Florida got a whole bunch of little groups and like that. That's super local to Florida, but that's Florida.

[B]

New Orleans, Houston, and Dallas can grow a group without the world.

[A]

That's real Atlanta, too. Yeah.

[B]

Atlanta only needs Atlanta.

[A]

Yeah. They're like. Because you ask anybody in Atlanta, they'll probably put young bloods in their top five groups.

[B]

Yeah, I would, too. I would, too.

[A]

I'm gonna give a shout out to my conscious niggas. That's from the west end who arrested Development. Oh, yeah. To my country in the west end. To my artsy niggas. Arrest of development, baby.

[B]

All right. That was my video. And that old man. The old man who had the whole world in his eyes.

[A]

Hey, man, this is. We talking about a different level of woke. Yeah, that's a different level. Southern. When Southern start putting their head into the esoteric. Yeah. You ain't want no parts of these.

[B]

Nobody wants to talk to. That's why. That's why your grandma always kept you away from your aunt. That always talked about roots and spirits and. And stuff like that. They always keep you awake. They take that lady crazy. They tell you, your uncle. Oh, oh, hush up. He don't go in there talking to him.

[A]

I got it.

[B]

You don't want to talk to him.

[A]

I got it. What's up?

[B]

What's the answer?

[A]

You can make a group out of Southern artists. You get four. You get four artists and one producer. And four artists and one producer, Four artists, one producer. Okay, I got my group. Go ahead.

[B]

Let me heat.

[A]

Go ahead. Let me hear.

[B]

Let me hear it. I'm going last, big kid.

[A]

Okay, that's cool. They all Southern. They are all Southern. Okay, super group, Lil Wayne. Okay. Juvenile. Ooh, TI Okay. Come on with it. Missy Elliott with Timberland producer. Oh, oh. Okay, okay, okay. All right, all right. I'm going T.I. okay, I'm going. Push a T. I'm going. I'm going three stacks. That's a good. That's a good. I need one more ref. I'm going to go Lil Wayne. Just because it's Lil Wayne. Yeah, yeah. Just because it's Lil Wayne. Okay, how about this? How about this? How about this? We take L. Wayne out. We take Lil Wayne just because he the Jay Z. Like, it's like Jay Z. And then I'm unofficially. We putting. Definitely putting TI everywhere. Ti If Ti. If ti we can't put Ti in it. Yeah, no, no, we can't put TI Wayne. We can't TI Wayne. We gonna take out cuz. They the ghost.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right, I gotta restart my. Go ahead, go ahead. All right, somebody else go first. Let me think about me. All right, I go.

[B]

Go.

[A]

I go. I go. Push a T again. I go three stacks. I go big crit. I go. I go bun, B. I go bun. That's a good one. My producer. I'm going Manny. I can't put Manny. Yeah, I can put Manny. Absolutely. That's a great group. All right. Okay. All right. I got. For real producing. Okay. I got Pencey. Oh, okay. Jeezy. Okay, Pencey. Jeezy. I'm. I'm. I'm throwing critter now. Gotta have crit. Gotta have critter now. Pence Jeezy, Crit. And then we gotta think about somebody that's gonna bring light, some flair. I'm either going Trick Daddy or Gunplay. I could go for that. I could go for Trick Daddy. I think Trick. I think Trick could do it. And also Trick great on a feature. Nah, he is.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Might be one of the best features of all time, but might be one of the best features of all time. Y' all know, Just so high. Just so hot. Hey, I ain't gonna lie for hon. Mention, though. Sleep on them. I go plies. I go hit. I'mma tell you that. I go plies. I'mma tell you that plies. Good. All right, we going. We going straight for the hits. Yeah, if we going straight. If we going straight for the hits.

[B]

This is my list.

[A]

I'm throwing Luda in there. If we going for hits. No.

[B]

So my four. I'm giving you Megan Big crit.

[A]

Oh, that's tough.

[B]

Project pack.

[A]

Tough. Tough. That's crazy.

[B]

That's tough. Okay. Singer. I'm throwing a singer.

[A]

Okay, yeah.

[B]

I'm throwing a singer right now.

[A]

Okay, now we can keep doing this. We can build this super CeeLo.

[B]

CeeLo is my.

[A]

And he could rap, too. That's a. That's a hybrid.

[B]

Producer.

[A]

Who y'? All. Producer. Come on with it.

[B]

Say to.

[A]

Go crazy. They going crazy. I gotta go again. Go Part two. Go Part two. Part two. Yeah, I did. I said Tim.

[B]

And the only reason I picked Zovin.

[A]

That was your first one. No, you didn't say your second one. No, that was your first one. Cuz, we took. We took. We took Wayne Tip out. Okay, okay, so who did I say? I said Trick Daddy, Trick, Pimpsy, Jeezy Jeezy. And then I had one more, three stacks. Who said ply, did you say? I said Plymouth. No, I said Trick Daddy, Pimpsy, Jeezy and I. And Big Crit. And Big Crit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Then you never said the producer Never said the producer produced by Big Crit. Fucking talk. Hey, okay, hey. All produced by Big Creek. Hold on now look. Now look. If we go. If we go. David Banner. Here we go. David Banner producing it. I'm going 2 chainz. Okay, okay, okay.

[B]

Now hold on now.

[A]

All right. 2 chains under David Banner be crazy. Crazy.

[B]

I can't catch up to my campaign. Cook the color. Oh, man.

[A]

Now, man, that's one of the hardest verses. I'm going two chains. Young dro. Okay, okay. And then if we gonna throw a singer in there. I'm throwing Fantasia in there. We gonna have hits. We gonna have hits.

[B]

We gonna have hits.

[A]

Listen, okay, listen. And then we got one more go down the Rolodex of real quick. Who producing this?

[B]

Banner.

[A]

David Banner. Banner, yeah. Sauce Walker.

[B]

Oh, okay, Sauce.

[A]

Okay, I go for it. This is going to be the most barred up. Go for it. Bar up. All we doing is sampling Fantasia voice. David Banner sampling all her songs. Okay, we going to take Fantasia out. We just sampling her. Here we go.

[B]

Yo, this. This my group now. I'mma change it up.

[A]

Change it up, man. What nigga? David Banner sampling. When I see you with young Dro on that bitch. And Sauce Walker. Crazy 2 Chainz cleaning that hoe up.

[B]

Produce Jazzy Faye.

[A]

Okay, Fizzle, fizzle, fizzle, fizzle.

[B]

Singer Kirby. Okay, Is you on our side or is you faking?

[A]

Nah, Kirby gonna be up here in a few weeks.

[B]

Kirby as the single.

[A]

Man. Put Akeem Ali on that.

[B]

They need A Mississippi Mass mixtape.

[A]

Nah, them is hard. We just talk about Mississippi Mass mixtape.

[B]

And it don't need to be nobody but Big Creek. Kirby David Banner and. And Kim Akeem Ali give me a Mississippi, Mississippi Mass mixtape.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I promise you.

[A]

That's why I was going with Grisha next.

[B]

Let me host it. I'm in. I'm on your side.

[A]

We already did it. Already know what it's going for. Trust me. We gonna be the ones that produce that. Yeah, we gonna produce that. Keep going. Keep going.

[B]

Hey, that's I so. Yeah, Kirby, I think that we need some flare in there.

[A]

Okay. Where you going?

[B]

Flare.

[A]

Flare.

[B]

Trick Daddy.

[A]

Okay. I'm telling you, bro, people don't.

[B]

People. Okay, listen, man, y' all gotta understand.

[A]

Y' all wasn't listening to th holiday.

[B]

That nigga rapping, bro.

[A]

I'm with you, Trick. Trick was a.

[B]

We talking about Trick Daddy was a whole another person.

[A]

I'mma tell y', all, bro. It's a generational thing, though. Listen, listen. Around here it's hot as hell, but it's snow down here. Get full of load around here. Talking.

[B]

Trick be talking and then I like to play get on them albums. I like that. Trick is super proud of him being geek.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

I like that.

[A]

That's he putting on.

[B]

South Carolina is three different places.

[A]

Which color definitely tried to jump on their way re Ross. Yes.

[B]

Also I would like to point out.

[A]

But you can go Ross though.

[B]

We left Ross said we love Ross.

[A]

I was going to do that. I was going to do it on my second. On my second. I was going to go Ross. Yeah. Go Ross. Yeah.

[B]

I got a whole theory, man.

[A]

It's so many fire from down.

[B]

I got a whole theory.

[A]

Ross never gave you up.

[B]

I feel like bad song Ross.

[A]

Ross.

[B]

No.

[A]

He's one of the best album makers of all time. All of his sound immaculately produced. So I it sound like you are making music inside of the drug lord's mansion.

[B]

That brings me to what I'm getting ready to say. Okay, so I was having a discussion once before with somebody and I stated that there is levels to what they call street drug culture music. And I put it in three categories. Category one, you are Gucci. You still very much on the block.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

In the grind. You a corner boy. You still hungry in the trap. Not washing your ass for four days. Fiends coming in and out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Ain't no water in there, you goof. Okay, Then you move up to the second tier, which would be Jeezy, you a little Removed.

[A]

You're a drug trafficker. You're. Yeah, you on that road. You calling shots.

[B]

You comfortable. You got you doing. You making moves state to state looking at fed charges now.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And then the next tier is Rick Ross music. You ain't did deals with a.

[A]

And I don't know how long seen a.

[B]

And I don't know how long you were talking to Italians and Cubans. You wearing silk shirts, your titties out. You got glasses with frames on the side. You the. You sleep with. Ain't spoke English in years.

[A]

Yeah, years. Yeah. No, no, tear, tear. Drug dealing is great topic.

[B]

Rick Ross makes what I call Kingpin vacation music.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

He makes Kingpin vacation music. You know, rings on every finger, lamb chops, chickens.

[A]

Chickens. But he always say he the best. But no one's favorite, though. He always say he's nobody's favorite.

[B]

But he drug dealing music. And Gucci make music for the who's still very much in the trenches. He got current probation charges. He going to black bite week.

[A]

Daytona still turning up Gucci making music for that would like me flipping 2 ounces of me.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, you still got a Gigi.

[A]

Scale, but all my money.

[B]

Yeah, you still got two.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Broccoli, rubber bands.

[A]

Everything I own is in my pants, nigga.

[B]

You trap out of apple, baby.

[A]

I got a mar. A gun. 2 ounces of mid. A whole bunch of fucking money, sex. And you count maybe a little eight ball of cocaine.

[B]

One, two, three, four.

[A]

One.

[B]

One, two, three, four. Two.

[A]

Yeah, you feel me?

[B]

You got a rubber band on your money. Cause you work at Applebee's and you weighing it up on the scale in the back. Cause you sell out the paper back and that's Gucci. And you tell them that.

[A]

Traffickers like that they riding out, they riding around, that they are. They are risking their life when they get in a car.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

When she said so let you out the back. I just want to say RP To a Douglasville legend, Marcus Glover. Trapping out the Wendy's boy. Get my whole shout out. JG too. I done bought. I done bought one up there, but two Junior bacon cheeseburgers and. And a dub.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

He had it in the bag waiting for me when I got. I said, oh, boy. Shout out.

[B]

Not condoning it, but I 2011, you.

[A]

Could have came and got an ounce of me for me at the Cold Stone Creamery. No R. That's no cap. I had the sitting a Chevy Cora.

[B]

Not the Cora. Not a car that the Manufacturer ain't even making no more.

[A]

You can't even find parts for that movie. This episode is in the 1002s. Yeah. We will literally sit here and talk for another hour. We got to rap because we got somewhere to be. Yeah, but this is Gigi La Flair, ladies and gentlemen. Gigi, go ahead and plug like this, your camera. Go ahead and plug yourself. Any shows, anything you got coming out. This will probably come out two weeks from today. Okay. Okay.

[B]

All right. So I'll go ahead and plug my November shows up. Okay. So if you like what you saw from me today, you can follow me at Gigi Laflaire. You can find on my website, Gigi lafair.com. it's G-I G-I-L-E-F-L-A-I-R.com. i've got shows coming up in Florida. I got a whole Florida run going. So November 5th and 6th, I'm in Tampa and Orlando. November 16th, I'll be in Greensboro, North Carolina, at the Comedy Zone. And on the 19th, I'll be at Fort Lauderdale in Florida. Want more tickets and see things that I've got going on? Please go to my website@gigi Laflaire.com. i totally enjoyed myself here today. Always a good time when I come on here. The grits of eggs podcast with my nephews. Appreciate y' all always having me the.

[A]

First returning guest, and this will not be the last. This will not be the last.

[B]

I always come back as long as you have me, I'll always comment. Thank you. I'm proud of you. Y' all doing some big things, man. I'm so proud of y'.

[A]

All. Thank you so much.

[B]

Coming from the truck to now we live studio audience. That's a big deal, man. I'm proud of you. I'm proud of your growth. I'm proud of what you're becoming. And I can't wait to see how far you guys go, man.

[A]

Thank you so much.

[B]

No, no problem. Thank you.

[A]

I'm Deontay Cabo. Who's behind the camera? The coolest co host in the world. Kumbayer Coffee Shop. What did you choose up there? Come here. Come on down. Get you a se A Seagram's matcha Seagram star latte. We'll catch y' all next time. Y' all take care of yourself and take care of each other. Man, I just want to rap. Hey, yeah. They say without the proper labor, faith.

[B]

Don'T stand a chance.

[A]

I put my faith in faith and.

[B]

Stand on fertile land. I planted seeds Adeline Deed turning the trees before rest in peace tease get printed to me.