Episode 103 - Everything is A Lot

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast: Episode 103 - “Everything is A Lot”

Host: Deante’ Kyle
Guest/Co-host: Big Ice Cup Cat
Date: November 25, 2025

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Episode Overview

In Episode 103, “Everything is A Lot,” Deante’ Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat come together for their signature blend of unfiltered talk covering current events, hip hop, pop culture commentary, financial and media literacy, and listener advice. The hosts reflect on their recent live Atlanta show, explore issues of race, politics, and mediocrity in American society, break down fresh music (especially in hip hop), and field calls for advice—never holding back their humor, insight, or candor.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reflections on the Live Atlanta Show (00:50–10:21)

• The hosts are riding high off a sold-out, community-forward Atlanta live show featuring music battles (“verses”), crowd participation, and positive vibes.
• City-specific events are a hit and they’re looking ahead to a big one in New York.
• Notable was support from local businesses, Soul Play’s charitable shoe drive, and shout-outs to attendees (like Dominique Morgan and her “6’6 in heels” companion).
• Atmosphere lauded: “All them black people just in there having a good time... No hateration. No more pain—it’s a celebration.” (Deante’ Kyle, 10:00)
• Positive, supportive black community spaces are uplifted as vital.

2. Financial Blackout & Intentionality During Holidays (04:41–06:09)

• Deante’ urges listeners to join the “blackout” from Tuesday to Tuesday—boycotting big box stores in favor of small, local, and black-owned businesses.
• Principle: “Everything don’t got to be convenient. You got to be valuable. We need to be valuable and intentional with how we spend our money this holiday season.” (Deante’ Kyle, 05:03)

3. Merch Updates & Black Business Shout-Outs (06:19–09:33)

• New Grits and Eggs hat colorways are teased (selling out fast).
• Praise for collaborating with local businesses (Soul Play) and black production/dj crews.
• Ongoing encouragement to donate for local causes; local businesses and community giving highlighted.

4. Critique of Certain Hip-Hop Figures & the Importance of Literacy (12:26–19:59)

• Extended riff on washed-up rap legends overstaying their welcome (esp. Juelz Santana) and the “D tier” quality of some new hip-hop podcasts.
• Juelz’s claim that “you don’t need to know how to read” leads to a passionate tangent about the dangers of embracing functional illiteracy.

  “Kids, don’t listen to Joel Santana!” (Deante’ Kyle, 14:01)
  “You don’t need to know how to read contracts? ...Obviously you didn’t read the sign that said ‘no weapons in the airport.’” (Deante’ Kyle, 15:27)

• Deante’ and Ice Cat urge listeners to value media, basic, and financial literacy, not just “hustle culture” math.
• “Read a story. Be able to tell me what happened in your own words. That’s a skill, bruh. So the all-time low...this nigga said you don’t need to know how to [read].” (Deante’ Kyle, 18:36)
• Media podcasts warning: “Stop listening to men with mics... It’s going to get to a point where we’re going to be the only trusted source in podcast.” (Deante’ Kyle, 26:36)

5. DEI, Virgil Abloh, and Political Neutrality (27:01–35:45)

• Deante’ passionately critiques prominent black creators (ref. Virgil Abloh) who claim to be “apolitical” or “against DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion)”.
• “You cannot be apolitical while reaping all the benefits of right-leaning politics... If you stay neutral in matters of oppression, your neutrality is taking the side of the oppressor.” (Deante’ Kyle, 27:09–28:05)
• Calls out ignorance of America’s racist roots, the real necessity of DEI, and the privilege of creative leadership roles.

6. Hip-Hop and Grammy Season Rundown (35:45–54:19)

• Praise for Wale’s album Everything is A Lot (“flawless” | 35:50), with tracks like “Conundrum”, “Blanco”, and “Power and Problems” highlighted (36:38).
• “Everything Is A Lot is a flawless album. God damn. Wale, Wale Forlorn D.C. he showed up...” (Deante’ Kyle, 35:50)
• Discussion on generational gaps in hip-hop knowledge (the Kai Cenat/Wale moment, 37:47).
• Tyler, the Creator named Apple Music’s Artist of the Year, with Chromacopia and Don’t Tap That Glass flagged as Grammy-worthy.
• Detailed breakdown and predictions for major Grammy nominations in hip-hop and R&B, with strong props to Kendrick, Clips, Tyler, and G Herbo.
• Ongoing recurring theme: celebrating excellence and intentionality in black music, pushing back against industry mediocrity (ex: Macklemore saga as example of white mediocrity being rewarded, 53:02–53:19).
• “Macklemore is a great example of how white people are rewarded for being mediocre. This is the pampered society theory. This is an original theory of my own.” (Deante’ Kyle, 53:02)

7. The “Pampered Society Theory” and Racial Inequality (54:19–67:44)

• Deante’ maps out his “Pampered Society Theory”: white America is “pampered” with higher wages and consumption capacity so they stay content, apolitical, and resistant to radical change.
• “You pamper people in this society to keep them at bay, to keep them out of revolution, right? There is no glaring problem for white people...” (Deante’ Kyle, 54:42)
• Historical context provided: “The water has always been boiling hot for black people in this country...work twice as hard to get half as much.” (Deante’ Kyle, 61:34)
• Critiques how this feeds structural racism and the illusion of meritocracy, linking it back to why DEI remains so urgent.

8. Listener Calls & Advice Segment (71:40–101:14)

Young Creative Struggling for Work (73:40–76:41)

• 24-year-old photographer seeks advice after months of unemployment.
• Deante’ empathizes, urging practicality: “If you not seeing the fruits of the labor, then you gotta pivot from career to hobby/side job...find something to fund your passion.” (73:30)
• Encourages building out a portfolio with gigs that pay bills, not just chasing passion projects.

Black Creatives in White Spaces and the Ethics of Spiritual Teaching (76:55–80:22)

• Caller asks about black creativity in white establishments and teaching spiritual practices.
• Deante’ stresses: don't teach closed practices publicly/mixed company; ensure you're qualified; seek wisdom from elders.
• Notes question was unfocused but prioritizes discretion and responsibility.

Relationship Dilemmas

—Supporting a Non-Contributing Partner (81:24–85:27)

• Man resentful about supporting his daughter’s mother for years, unsure what to do.
• Deante’ and Big Ice Cup Cat stress open communication:

  “You need to probably communicate this stuff to her...it’s also not fair to resent her for something you haven’t brought up.” (Deante’ Kyle, 85:28)

• Advice: Don’t stay from pity or build resentments without trying to resolve issues directly.

—Age-Gap Relationship Uncertainty (87:40–99:27)

• 25-year-old woman wonders if she’s missing out on her 20s by dating a 37-year-old man.
• Both hosts note the “crazy” gap and the realities of mismatched life stages.
• “If Big Cat was talking to a 25-year-old...I would be cursing him. We wouldn’t be friends actually.” (Deante’ Kyle, 93:28)
• They strongly suggest questioning the long-term compatibility but affirm her agency.

Personal Health & Lifestyle Changes (99:39–101:08)

• Deante’ and Ice Cat joke about aging, fitness, and needed lifestyle shifts as they approach middle age (“major lifestyle changes” and “Gritsnaks funeral” being code for health improvements).
• “A Goodyear clean eating on me...2026 we gotta turn this around. Real rap.” (Deante’ Kyle, 100:53)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Everything don’t got to be convenient. You got to be valuable. We need to be valuable and intentional with how we spend our money this holiday season.”
  — Deante’ Kyle (05:03)

• “Stop listening to men with mics... It’s going to get to a point where we’re going to be the only trusted source in podcast.”
  — Deante’ Kyle (26:36)

• “If you stay neutral in matters of oppression, your neutrality is taking the side of the oppressor.”
  — Deante’ Kyle (28:05)

• “Read a story. Be able to tell me what happened. That’s a skill, bruh. So the all-time low...this nigga said you don’t need to know how to [read].”
  — Deante’ Kyle (18:36)

• “Macklemore is a great example of how white people are rewarded for being mediocre. This is the pampered society theory. This is an original theory of my own.”
  — Deante’ Kyle (53:02)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening/Love for Live Show: 00:50–10:21
• Financial Blackout/Supporting Black Business: 04:41–06:09
• Merch & Soul Play Partnership: 06:19–09:33
• Hip-Hop Legends, Podcasts & Literacy: 12:26–19:59
• Dissing Magga Mall & Rory Podcast: 19:59–22:51
• DEI, Virgil Abloh & Political Neutrality: 27:01–35:45
• Music/Grammy Breakdown: 35:45–54:19
• Pampered Society Theory/Structural Racism: 54:19–67:44
• Listener Advice Call: Young Creative: 73:40–76:41
• Black Creatives in White Spaces: 76:55–80:22
• Supporting Non-Contributing Partner: 81:24–85:27
• Age Gap Relationship Advice: 87:40–99:27
• Fitness/Lifestyle Talk: 99:39–101:08

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Episode Tone & Style

The conversation balances bold social commentary and humor with real talk and warmth. The hosts maintain authenticity, leaning into their Southern, black cultural context and gifting listeners tough love, laughs, and insight.

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For newcomers, Episode 103 is a quintessential Grits and Eggs ride: honest, hilarious, and always rooted in the real.

Transcript

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty soul with a dirty mouth My knee orbit miss things things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my no rest and she gorgeous as I doubt my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead Tell them we gonna get this money to my pocket bit Remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't got to like a. Regardless baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me. We like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee Flick your cigarette and let a vent yeah, we back.

Oh, we back. Grits and eggs podcast, episode 103. I'm your host, Deontay Kyle. But who's behind the camera?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Ooh, big ice cup cat from the Kumbaye coffee shop. Dulce lattes, tequila, matchas, courvacier, pumpkin spice, eggnogs. We got it all, baby. Okay. We got it all.

[Deontay Kyle]

We got it all. Hey, you know, it's crazy. I went. I went out there this week and it was like, man, somebody showed us a video. You was talking about the. The shop or. No, somebody called, said you was talking about the shop and gave $20, like, basically to cover, like, whatever your order is up until the $20 is over. So, you know, I went matcha. Yeah, and a. And a baby black coffee. Hey, you know what I'm saying? Matcha and a baby black coffee. And they was like, yeah, that was like $9. So you do one more of them, you should be good.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Good to go.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was like, see you niggas next week, man. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know who it was that did that, but thank you. You know what I'm saying? Thank you for the coffee. I appreciate it. Big cat, what's going on, baby?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Hey, man. Coming up, a live show. How you feeling?

[Deontay Kyle]

What a great show.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Hey, we had a great time.

[Deontay Kyle]

What a great show. Golly, man, I had a great time, bro. That was. That verse is.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, we did a good verses, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was the one we did.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

We did the city of Atlanta justice.

[Deontay Kyle]

When we take it city to city. That's going to be the one.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, that's a good icebreaker, too.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a great icebreaker, you know what I'm saying? To get the crowd. Crowd participation also. I was just showing love to the cities that we in.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

When we got to do the one in New York, that's going to be the big one. That's going to be the one.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Pull out. I mean, we're going to have to go five. Pull out. All stops. I mean, we basically went five yesterday.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

We did, yeah. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think five is the one when it's like that quick because it's only like 10, 15 minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You killed me with the rich kids joint. I ain't going.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, nothing left.

[Deontay Kyle]

As I heard the rich kids, I was like, there's no response. The only response could have been partnered on. Yeah. But I was like, I'm gonna let you had it. I'll let you hear this. We gotta do the knowledge.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But yeah, man, that was great as always, bro. What a intelligent crowd. Y' all bring so much value to the show, Ms. Man, that's why I get y' all involved. So deontayantecow.com for all inquiries and bookings and some schedulings if you want to do interviews or have me on your podcast or pitch a guest to my podcast. Deontayeontaykyle.com adviceiontekyle.com for all your advice submissions. We got a couple of advice segments today and Chris Nicks radio new music Monday. All your music submissions go to nmmtekyle.com MM 657234X at 657-234-3447. Call in, hit them voicemails. But once a month you can catch us on stream and you can call in. But you gotta be a cousin. How much it costs to be a cousin? $8. $8, man. You come pay them $8. If you paid $8, you would have saw the show live stream last night. Good stream. Great stream. I watched it. Yeah, this. That was great. That was great. So I hope all the cousin enjoyed the stream we got. We already did our stream this month, so we got y' all episode coming on Friday and then we're gonna wrap this month on up. Yeah, it's gonna be turkey day. We ain't with it but it is gonna be turkey day. Ain't gonna be at work.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I'm gonna eat.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm be with the family. I'm big grubbing.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I'm eat a little something.

[Deontay Kyle]

Put a little something on me. I got a little friendsgiving to go to tomorrow.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Shout out my partner, man. We.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I ain't gonna ain't gonna say too much.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, we ain't gonna say too much. Yeah. It's 25th is approaching, so we'll be starting Our blackout on Tuesday.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

From Tuesday to Tuesday. You know what I'm saying? So keep them dollars tight. Keep them dollars tight and close to your chest. Right. If you absolutely must buy, I would suggest finding, you know, one of your local mom and pops, finding some resources online for small owned businesses or black owned businesses and getting your needs met. That way, we not going to be doing the Walmarts and Targets. We're not going to be doing the Amazons. You know what I'm saying? Everything don't got to be convenient. You got to be valuable. We need to be valuable and intentional. Intentional with how we spend our money this holiday season. If you looking for merch, got to go to gritsandeggs.com grits g r I t s e n g g s.com or go to deontay kyle.com for all updates, all the latest episodes, all the latest news. And there is a tab on there where it say merch. And you hit that tab and it'll send you directly to the merch website. We are talking to Dre, trying. We trying out some new colorways from Grits Hats. They sold out. Yeah. So everything's selling out over here, baby. Just selling out. You know what I'm saying? One thing about me, I like being involved in a situation that sells out. That's our standard, okay? It's gonna sell out.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It's gonna sell.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? It's gonna sell. We not gonna sell out. But the product, the product, the tickets, they gonna sell out. What's up, man? How you feeling after last night?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I feel good, man. We had matching jerseys on in the thing. Peach street jerseys.

[Deontay Kyle]

Run these things on back. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to uatl.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yes, sir.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? They looked out for us. Got the exclusive Peachtree Atlanta Hawks jerseys. You know what I'm saying? Got our. We might. I think we got some photos. We'll have Tristan put some photos up. Yeah, yeah, that whatnot. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Had the Black Cats on.

[Deontay Kyle]

Good Black Cats.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Good Black Cats.

[Deontay Kyle]

Good jersey. Shout out to Soul Play. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to the Soul Circle Foundation. If y' all watching this now, you still can donate your shoes. If you live in Atlanta, you can go to the Soul Play store at the Lawrenceville or the Decatur location. If you donate two pairs of shoes, it gives you one raffle ticket. The raffle ticket puts you in the eligibility to win the Black Cat fours that dropped this Saturday, November 29th. So the shoes are going to a good cause. They'll be going to kids that are either just in need or in foster homes, group homes, things like that, but it'll go to children in need. Each donated shoe, they need to be gently used shoes, they need to be in good condition, but they'll be going to a good cause. So your donations will be going to a good cause. Even if you don't win the raffle, you still win because you helped somebody that was in need. So, you know. Shout out to Soul Play. Shout out. My boy J will. Shout out to everybody that pushed up last night. Dominique Morgan came in there. Dominique Morgan came in there with a woman that was about six foot six.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

In heels.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yes. Yes. Impressive. Great tits and intimidating at the same time.

[Deontay Kyle]

One thing about the tease.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

They got the tits.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Oh, that's not objectifying, y'. All. This is a glaring detail. You know, Tease with the tits. Shout out Dominique Morgan. Imagine my God on today. Shout out Jasmine's garden. Shout out Paper Frank. Shout out to Atlantucky for hosting us and having us there. It was amazing, bro. All the people just came through and show love. Shout out to the young lady that gifted me with this painting. What a beautiful paint.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Now she. She.

[Deontay Kyle]

Every detail. Every detail.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Every detail.

[Deontay Kyle]

By next episode, it's gonna be right here. Yes. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

And it should be.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As it should. Like, it's only. It's only right. Yeah, but, yeah, man. You know what I'm saying? The. The way that everything came together, like, cool performing. Ferg did his thing. Great host.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Great host.

[Deontay Kyle]

Black production crew. They killed it.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

They did.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Shout out to them boys, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to the chef.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Chef hooked it up. Good piece of good wings, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

People ain't know about that spot, bro. They know about it now. I mean, so, you know, shout out to them. Like, that was. That was a nice vibe, bro. Shout out to DJ Hakey. Shout out to DJ Missus. We had two women dj's.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Two black women.

[Deontay Kyle]

Two black women djing. Killing it.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Good vibes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Great vibes in there. Great vibes, man. Shout out to all the cousins that showed up and pushed up on us, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. I had a really good time overall, too. It was just like, great show from beginning to end. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

The verses.

[Deontay Kyle]

The verses. We're gonna reiterate some of those points today. You know what I'm saying? We're gonna make it. Make it claro. Okay, But I Was just excited, man, about the whole situation. It was just.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It was a beautiful affair, bruh.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was beautiful, bro. All them black people just in there having a good time.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, it was like Mary J. Blige's the Wildest dreams. Well, no hateration. No more pain.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No pain. There's a celebration.

[Deontay Kyle]

All Mary would be proud.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, Mary might show up in New York. You never know. You never know who's going to show up in Brooklyn. They said. People was calling, saying they coming. They ain't got no tickets, but they coming, bruh. Sold out. We still coming.

[Deontay Kyle]

We were selling tickets at the door.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Fuck it. Fuck it. We didn't have no seats, but they stood. They was chilling.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

They was chilling. They was drinking. They was chilling.

[Deontay Kyle]

Niggas was drinking. Motherfuckers was drunk.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Niggas was drunk.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna tell you, from now on, shout out to Shada, too. Cause that was love. Like, she. She needed that. I could tell she just needed that moment to get that shit off her chest when she came up there shouting from la. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But we can't. I can't get a flow to y' all no more. Went on a little five minute rant. Yeah, we don't rant.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You got a question, though?

[Deontay Kyle]

They make statements. I'm asking the audience questions. They supposed to come up, answer questions. Shot. You just said that. I'm hopping on stage.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

She took my mic. I was like, you know what? Sometimes you gotta let them have it.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Give me a little shine right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I just let her have it. You know what I'm saying? You gotta let it happen. You let black women have it.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, let the sisters have it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just have it. Go ahead. I need to take a little breather. Anyway. The lights was hot.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, I was sweating.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out, Beretta. Scott King, too, man. Yeah, it's always good to see her, man. She be pushing up for us, bro.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, she. She. She supports every time.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, it's a couple of the cousins that just gonna pull up and support every time, man. Big Karm. Big Karm in the building. Yeah, Big K. Big Karm came in there, be like this. All right, Bruh? So you know rap legends. Rap legends? Yeah, yeah, people. People that had a great run in hip hop. They. They just stay around too long sometimes.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Sometimes they're just there too long.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because first of all, why are we interviewing Jewel Santana?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He's out of his mind, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

What's the last thing you else dropped? Clockwork.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It wasn't Clockwork but it's been a minute.

[Deontay Kyle]

Make that cock work tick.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I hated that song. I hate this song with a passion.

[Deontay Kyle]

Why did they put that song out?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

How they made the cut bruh wooers cam at. I don't think Kel was in the studio.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, some people have the personality to make a career and a pivot in media. Post rep career. Jim Jones is podcast now. He's doing.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He's doing okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's doing a good job.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Them niggas cannot say words to. They can't pronounce words to say. They like, okay, what. A word be beating families that could pronounce Indiana. It was.

[Deontay Kyle]

Who?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Jim Jones. I said, what the are they talking about?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I mean, this is the D tier podcast. C tier. D tier podcast. You know what I'm saying? They got some work to do. A lot of work. Figure out the dynamics.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

A lot of Hooked on Phonics.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. So. So this brings me to my next point. Literacy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, my God.

[Deontay Kyle]

Very important. Kids, don't listen to Joel Santana.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Please don't.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't want to say about him losing all his teeth.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Say no.

[Deontay Kyle]

Say no to drugs.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Say no to drugs.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just say no to drugs and understand. Hey, Yo, that got Tourette's, son. It's when the Coke kicked in 100%. When it kicked in 100. But don't listen. You know, I'm not gonna. There are some drug addicts that clean and act up and they revolutionize themselves and they become a story to tell. You know, they become people who can. Who have really, like, reimagined their lives and are motivated to help others on their plight. And normally, you know, you know, some former drug addicts, very intelligent people. And you got Joel Santana. No bueno. Okay, we not listening to that. You don't know how to. You don't need to know how to read because you can listen to an audiobook. That's called Being functionally Illiterate. Yeah. Then they asked him, like, don't you need to know how to read contracts? He was like, nah, we see what happened.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

There you go.

[Deontay Kyle]

Obviously you didn't read the sign that said no weapons in the airport.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Nigga was running through Newark airport.

[Deontay Kyle]

I want to say this, kids, if you are, for whatever reason, listening to Joel Santana, I'm sure you're not.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Kids are not listening to Jewel.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nobody's listening. Who is? These niggas that had him on the podcast.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I don't even know who this podcast was.

[Deontay Kyle]

Sometimes you just get a little three camera set up and some lights and now you got, like, Joel Santana talking about some. You don't need to know how to read, but you want kids to focus on financial literacy and not actual literacy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

The wildest shit I've ever heard.

[Deontay Kyle]

So be illiterate to words. Yeah, yeah. Don't worry about words.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Just know how to do math.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just know how to do math. Do you know how simple math is? Do you know how easy it is to do? And with the financial literacy you talking about is simple math. Yeah. Subtraction. Addiction. Addition.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Addiction is simple. Addiction is insane.

[Deontay Kyle]

I didn't mean to say addiction.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It is in your spirit.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's jewels, man. It's a mixture of jewels and Jim Jones. They got me up my words, son.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Addiction is subtraction. Addiction is crazy. That's hilarious.

[Deontay Kyle]

Subtraction, addition, multiplication, division. Very simple math. Yeah, quick maths. You know, worksheets, spreadsheets. You can just. You can just type in. Type in numbers, man. Spreadsheet, intuit.com. you know what I'm saying? You can be your own accountant.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Can be an accountant.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You can be an accountant. Shout out to all my accountants.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to all the accountants. You know what I'm saying? Somebody got to do that job.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Telling they don't know how to read is the craziest I've ever heard in my life. You know how to read? Read. Who want to do that?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Read.

[Deontay Kyle]

Please read. Please.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Knowledge is power.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now more than ever, please. You need to be into literacy, period.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Not just financial.

[Deontay Kyle]

Media. Yes, read a book. Yes, read words and comprehend. You need to be functioning as a literate individual. This is how. This isn't gonna improve your thinking if you not literate. You're gonna be on a podcast telling niggas that by ninth grade, you should just be focused on running and owning business. How the fuck you gonna run a business you don't know how to read.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Still got a couple more simple maps to go in ninth grade, too.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, at least Algebra one. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Still got a couple more courses to go.

[Deontay Kyle]

Geometry, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, just to challenge the brain, you know what I'm saying? If you want to stop at Algebra one, that's. I'm fine with that. I don't think you need to know trigonometry.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No, not for real.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

She building the skyscrapers.

[Deontay Kyle]

Engineer. If it's applicable to the career that you set out in front of yourself, you need to know these things. But I can understand. But some basic maths yeah, Basic reading. Reading to understand comprehension skills. Read a story. Be able to tell me what happened in the story in your own words. That's a skill, bruh. So the all time low. This nigga said you don't need to know how to. Nah, they don't know. They need to be worried about opening businesses and financial literacy, but they don't need to know how to read. Nigga, do you know how stupid that sounds? I'm gonna tell you what.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He was high as hell.

[Deontay Kyle]

You can still hear the.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, you hear it?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, you hear it? I don't know what it's called. I know what you're talking about. It's an obstruction.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yes, yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Speaking. You know, podcasts are. God damn. We are not safe. No, we're not in a good space. You know what I'm saying? We have very tainted space. Hopefully. We are continually spread light because you got Maga Mall. Oh, and the racist Rory. Hey, God damn. A hell of a combination, the two white supremacists. That's why they get along so well.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got white white man with a. With a racist mind. A black man with a racist ass mind.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Two racist. These niggas both hate black people.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Clinton, Bixby.

[Deontay Kyle]

You see what I'm saying? My boy. Go Clayton Bis. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? If you got hate in your heart, let it out. I don't understand you guys. I'm gonna tell you guys professional opinion. You know what I'm saying? I think we're 100 plus episodes in and we are warranted to give advice in this podcast space.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I think so. I think it's only right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just wrap it up. Just wrap it up. Shit takes. Hip hop takes. Only thing y' all are good for is making argue or call you stupid in a comment section. It's over, Joe. Joe won the war. He may have did bad business with you, you know what I'm saying? He may have burned some bridges with you, obviously. Bridges that he never planned on crossing again. He may be a foul nigga if he fucked y' all over out of some money or put y' all in a bad contract. But the war is over and he has won. And you two niggas need to pack it up. Pack y' all up. Free Damaris.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Free, please.

[Deontay Kyle]

I know that's why that Indian nigga left. He was like, this is going nowhere. Yeah, this is getting bad.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

This is a sinking ship.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, because when they started out, they had. They had a Hispanic dude, that Rainbow Coalition Hispanic dude, white dude, black dude, Indian dude, black woman.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Now it's just.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now it's just white man, white man, black woman.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

White man, white man, black woman.

[Deontay Kyle]

Terrible combination. Terrible combination. I think you niggas should just pack it up. It's not a good or hear me out. Go full right wing grifter. Go full conservative. Start talking about policing women's bodies. Start saying, you know, we don't need DEI support. Ice, get some of that APAC money.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Hey.

[Deontay Kyle]

You might have a shot. Open up a whole new fan base. They'd be like, that mall's all right.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm saying that's how he'd be talking to he like he's a big Trump supporter from the beginning. That's odd. Yeah, odd. Very odd behavior.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Ain't his brother like, big or some like that? Yeah, it's crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

His brother's like founders of Rock Rock Rockefeller.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

This be talking brazy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Said he caught up a restaurant where his ex was in and paid the tab over the phone. I said, huh? What are you talking about?

[Deontay Kyle]

That was a virtual cuck.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like a dollar cuck.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It's over with.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's crazy. Yeah, she was at a restaurant you introduced her to.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Uhhuh.

[Deontay Kyle]

She took a nigga there. Yeah. How you found out about it? Who knows?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He said he called her.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, and she answered. She answered. Let her know she was on a date.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And he called and picked up tab.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Never in a million years, brother. Never, never in a million years.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's not no fly.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's not fly.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Not at all.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's brazy. What the. You. You treat.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You treated this. Then he got some ass out there.

[Deontay Kyle]

You pay for a to if you a cuck right now. Call up the local restaurant, say, I'm picking up all the tabs for all the couples out on dates right now. Their date is your date as of right now.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Triple bomb on the flex.

[Deontay Kyle]

Wrong with that. New York City. Listen to me right now. Going to the local stk, find a couple that's on a nice date, say, I got the tab. Your stakes are my stakes as of right now.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Did you see the young lady that went to STK and found the baby daddy on another date?

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

And picked up another chick. She picked up a felony.

[Deontay Kyle]

What'd she do, man?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

She whooping son ass all over stk. Showed up with her, the home girl and the baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, she brought the baby.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

She brought the baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

So child in danger.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Child in danger.

[Deontay Kyle]

Assault and battery.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Look at your dad whooping his ass the other Soldier trying to get up out of there. She was like, all right, date over. Let me pack my up and go.

[Deontay Kyle]

My baby mama would have got hit with a steak knife that night.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

She hit the.

[Deontay Kyle]

With a plate.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

She hit the plate over the head.

[Deontay Kyle]

I went right rikers on her ass real quick.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He would have. He would have shanked it a little bit. Stk.

[Deontay Kyle]

I would have hit her with that V jitsu. How to hear one of these.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Elbow in the middle of SDK is insane.

[Deontay Kyle]

Date night over.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Date night over, everybody. Date night over.

[Deontay Kyle]

Restaurant over. No more restaurant.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No more steaks in this.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, everybody. Steaks well done in this. Jesus Christ, Magama. Yeah, you. You two, just pack it up, man. It is what it is, bro. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't even say y' all had a good run because y' all didn't. It's been troubled water since day one. As soon as y' all were done talking about, oh, then that. That Kendrick. That Kendrick and Drake Beef really set y' all back, bro. Ma was in that twerking. It was nasty, man. Some fly. Hold, please. Yeah, ain't no babies here today, brother. Yeah, but either way, this may not be the right platform to say this, but stop listening to on podcast.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Stop listening to men with mics.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, you gotta stop. You know what I'm saying? You gotta stop. It's going to get to a point where we're going to be the only trusted source in podcast.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's what we want.

[Deontay Kyle]

They're taking themselves out. That's what we want, baby. One show at a time. Pharrell.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

This is culturally inappropriate.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is culturally inappropriate.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

So be it.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is not a so be it. For real. You cannot be apolitical while reaping all the benefits of right leaning politics. You cannot be essentially a DEI hire for Louis Vuitton and then be against DEI diversity, equity, and inclusion. It doesn't just mean give black people a job. That's not what this is about. It's about diversifying, being inclusionary and creating equitable spaces for people that will be overlooked to give the job to friends or other mediocre white people. You could be considered a DEI hire considering all the creative directors that came before you. And we like the checkerboard Louis Vuitton pants. We like them. We think they look cool. That shit you were saying up there was some bullshit. You can hate politics all you want, but politics doesn't hate you. And politics loves even more when you talk like that. 300,000 black women lost jobs in 2025. 350,000 white men gained jobs in 2025. And those numbers are rising in both directions. When you allow a country that has all of its history steeped in racism and misogyny, got his incarnation through genocide and chattel slavery, and you think about the effects that that has on the modern workplace and the modern mind of Americans, you understand why DEI is a necessary tool to combat racist workplace tendencies. Not hiring the most qualified person because they're black out of a fear of competition, out of a fear of being inadequate. Pure intimidation. Black people are going to bring skills to the workplace that most people want and in spite of those skills, will still face all of these race. Racial undertones, all of these microaggressions constantly being overlooked in lieu. You. God damn it. This shit is just not a good look, man. I don't know what the fuck compelled you to say that. There is a. There is a place where you can say no comment. Saying no. Do you want to just be hard because you the black, or do you want to be hard because you the best? So be the best. No, the point of the inclusion part is so that the best can be included regardless of their race. Because the fabric of America is racist. You can be apolitical all you want. You don't have to worry about the prices of groceries people didn't get. They snap benefits this month right before Thanksgiving, and at the same time, the prices of groceries are going up. That's political as fuck. The need for a DEI is political as fuck. Being black is political as fuck, and it always has been in this country. You want to talk about dei, let's talk about reconstruction and black people being the only ones with the skills necessary for the Industrial Revolution and to create an efficient workspace so they reconfigure some things. And now black people still have those skills and barely getting paid anything. You don't like politics. Tipping at a restaurant is political because being black is political because the only reason they have tip culture in restaurants is because they didn't want to pay black people to service them. Black people seen as the help weren't going to get paid not only a fair wage, but a wage at all. So the only way they was paid is if white people was kind enough to tip them for their service. Being apolitical. Is basically just being a closeted conservative, a closeted Republican. If you stay neutral in matters of oppression, then your neutrality is taking the side of the oppressor. They need people to say nothing. They need people to hate politics while they Push us into fascism. This is. This is not a good look. And I get it. You're an artist and you're rich as fuck and none of these things affect you, but they affect people in a real way every day. And you can't try to be philosophical about this shit. If it was about being the best, there would be no need for dei. But it's not about that. It's about the racist practices that are baked into every industry and every corporation in America. And not liking politics doesn't exclude you from engaging in politics every day. You. That was probably. Whether you hate politics or not, that was a very political answer. You don't want to rock the boat because you know if you rock the boat, they'll fire your ass at Louis Vuitton. Probably not too big about you being over there advocating for working class people. Probably not too big on you being over there to advocate for black people. So hating DEI and being apolitical was political as fuck. It's just the politics of conservatism. Crazy work, brother. I would hope that a person that has seen as much success as you in a multitude of industries. Music industry, historically racist as fuck. Historically over the artist, you saw success. Fashion industry, historically racist as fuck. Historically. Never sees black people in seats of position and seats and positions of power as you've obtained. I would hope somebody that overcome certain obstacles that have been present for so many people before you would take the time to research the things that you're talking about and not try to play neutral. Because the time for playing neutral in American politics is over. There ain't no place for it. So if you just gonna go live in. Where, Where's Paris? Probably you're just going to go live in Paris and you're not going to engage in American politics. Then when asked about American politics, your best thing you can say is, I don't have any comment because silence is always an option. Now let's stay on topic. Music wallet.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[Deontay Kyle]

Everything is a lot. Speaking of it was a lot. Everything Is A Lot is a flawless album. God damn. Wale Wale forlorn D.C. he showed up. I seen a little criticism about the Afrobeats. Y' all just realize this man, he's a Nigerian American. Yeah, it's kind of his bag W be fly too.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Fly as hell.

[Deontay Kyle]

He. He one of the few people that can make basketball shoes look fly. Yeah, he took his time with that album. You said that in the car yesterday after we listened to it for the 12th time. Listen, first of all you can press play and go.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Just go.

[Deontay Kyle]

You just press play and glow. Go. Top favorites right now. I like that Conundrum. Yes. I like all of the songs. I'm gonna just say that. All right. Conundrum is a great intro.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Blanco. Yes. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Gotta have that blanco.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, for all my people struggling with alcoholism. Gotta have that blanco. For all my people who solve their problems with a bottle. Huh? If you're taking shots right now, listen.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

To that while they have go.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen. That Wally album. Get a good crying. Get so drunk you start crying.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Just drunk and cry.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Michael. Fredo.

[Colin from Virginia]

Oh.

[Deontay Kyle]

Power and problems. God, this. God damn it. You set out to make sure niggas remember who you was, ain't it?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Golly.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I think Kai put that better in his back.

[Deontay Kyle]

So what is this situation with Kai? I don't know nothing about that. I don't listen to niggas like that.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

So they was somewhere at a war show. Kai and Wale walked past each other. They spoke what it was, and the chat was like, oh, this is Wale. Wale, Wale. He was like, who is Wale? Kai didn't know who Wale was.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay. But so what? Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

And he felt. He felt. He felt defensive.

[Deontay Kyle]

First of all, man, listen, man. Yeah. Constantin taking that APAC money, man. Yeah. Why you think these is cutting their locks? Why you think like that? Succeed when they say black Americans don't have no culture. Yeah. This walk, talk, dress, think like a black mo. Not think. Not think, walk, talk and dress. I mean, he black American cosplaying like a. And he young man. He's a streamer dog. He. You know, I wouldn't expect a young streamer to know who all is.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, that's what people were saying, too. Like, no, he's young. Hell no.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, I would say, you know, conservatively, if you. And if you're gonna be making. It's important, like, we losing recipes. It's important to be knowledgeable of the history of the thing that you comment on, but that's just not. And that's kind of common practice amongst the youngers.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's kind of his thing too, though. He's on the red carpet.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's like.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I don't know what he's like, he didn't know who somebody else was. And. But what's the comedian?

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, so he's like, I don't know, oblivious.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, he's oblivious to who these people are. But if you go be in media, black media should know who these people are.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, if you're gonna be taking apeg money. You don't have to know who they are. Just keep doing whatever the you're doing, brother. Hey, Wale. 10 out of 10 out.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Shout out to the young lady that broke his heart. She deserves a Grammy as well.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's how we got that great Adele out.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Little heartbreak, little heartbreak, baby. You gotta go through some. She gotta go through some pain.

[Deontay Kyle]

I hope Wale heals from this, but boy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

The young lady put it on him.

[Deontay Kyle]

Damn, she put that boy through some. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sticky icky.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. He been right since.

[Deontay Kyle]

He ain't been right since. But I didn't get in that booth and let it all go of a great sample.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, Good sample.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, amazing samples.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Good samples and afrobeats.

[Deontay Kyle]

A little samples and Afrobeats, man. Everything is a lot. Yep. Tyler creator Apple Music artist of the year. Well deserved. Chromacopia. And Don't Tap that Glass. Countless performances. Grammy nominations.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Can't flog. Nah, I'll say this. We listen to that. Don't Tap the Glass. The album yesterday.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yesterday.

[Deontay Kyle]

That holds up, bro.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It stands. It stands. Test of time.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's a good album. Yeah, that. You know what I'm saying? This is vibes. Vibes and bops. He. He went introspective, then he went party on you.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Can't lose.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Like, hey, it was with it.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's killing much deserve Artists of the year. It's another album. G herbo. Great album. Great album.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, with these niggas talking about this has been a great year for hip hop.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Great year for hip hop, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is a great year for hip hop. Let's look through some of these Is Grammy nominations. All right, all right. We got the record of the year. A lot of pop music, of course not for me. Album of the year. We got Bad Bunny. Justin Bieber swag. Sabrina Carpenter. Man's best friend clips. Let God sort him out. Lady Gaga, Mayhem, Kendrick, gnx, Mutt, Leon Thomas, Tyler, Chromacopia. I mean, the only album that would win outside of hip hop is probably Bad Bunny.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know who Sabrina Carpenter is. I didn't listen to Justin Bieber's album at all. I did heard one song of Justin Bieber's shit with Cash Cobain. That shit was kind of fly. I didn't even know Layla Gaga had.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

A Yo, God damn. All right. God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was my. That's when the Illuminati was heavy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Lady Gaga go watch the average Lady Gaga video.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

A lot of symbolism.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta start turning the lights on.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know if. I don't know if no hip hop gonna win in that. You know what I'm saying? Cause I don't know Justin Bieber and shit in bad money. Justin Bieber, Sabrina Carpenter, somebody. I don't even know who that is. Producer Jack Antof. Anytime you see Jack Antop on the production list, he. He on. Jack Antop getting money, man. He on the GMX too. Okay. Let's just say right now, let go. Something about gnx, chromacopia. Who you got? That's all we care about, is the hip hop.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's a tough one. I'm not gonna say Tyler's gonna get it.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think Tyler's out.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Gen X had a great run at the beginning of the year.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Then clips came at the end of the year.

[Deontay Kyle]

If I had to wait the operation, call it obese. I mix it like my homes, then I tell them to go deep. That nigga snapping sounding.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

One nigga was at the super bowl, other two was at the Vatican. I don't. You know what I'm saying? I don't know.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I don't know.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? These performed at the Vatican. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, the Vatican. The Pope was in.

[Deontay Kyle]

That Pope from Chicago. Pope. G.D. pope was in there throwing up the rakes. Pope G.D. po wanted G Arbo to win. No, that GBO, turn that Herbert on, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's my man from back in the day.

[Deontay Kyle]

I know her. I used to mentor him. Yeah, Good kid, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I taught it at school.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, he's a good kid.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I know that man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out my twan, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Got a Grammy nomination, man. That's our partner. Yeah. He got Grammy nomination for best spoken word album. He produced it. Let me see. Hold on.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He was in the building yesterday, too.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Shout himself, man. Cool. Successful turkey drive yesterday, man. Was in the building. All right. Best R and B performance, Yukon by Justin Bieber. It depends. Chris Brown featuring Ty Bryson, Tiller Mutt, Leon Thomas, Heart of a Woman, Summer Walker folded Koni. I think the. Oh, you can't go nowhere without hearing that. Fold it. Yeah. Doing a thing. We had Kehlani in the hood.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right off, right off Bankhead. Right on the street from Bankhead Courts, baby. We took Kehlani to the hood smoking hookah, Goody posada.

[Deontay Kyle]

We had Kehlani in the hood. Drinking, drinking. All dime. All D Repasada.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Playing spades in the muffler.

[Deontay Kyle]

We was playing spades.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Kehlani was my partner. We was so drunk, we was up.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It was a good time in.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was a good time. Yeah. Had her eating good. Lemon pepper wings in that motherfucker. Get some lemon. Get some of the lps.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get your blood pressure up a little bit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah. We going to water it back down. Liquor. That was a fun night.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, it was a good night, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, all right, all right. We in our bag now. Okay. Damn. Why is rap category 25 way down the list? That's why Will Smith then was protesting.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. That's why JC never showed back up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Them keep waiting 25 segments in going on long ass goddamn list sitting.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Long sitting period.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right. Best rap performance. Outside. Cardi B. Chains and Whips. Clips. Anxiety, doi. TV off. Kendrick Lamar, Darling Eye, Tyler, the Creator. All right, we can go ahead and get Cardi B and doi up out of there.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I'm going.

[Deontay Kyle]

Kendrick. TV off. TV off.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I would say chains and whips and Kendrick still get a grammar. I ain't gonna lie. That darling. That's. That's. That's one of the ones too. Hey, them three is running rap right now. Yeah, it's a new big three. Yeah, yeah. We need to do a word. Big three anyway.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

For sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

Best melodic rap performance. Who you say? Who you got for that? For. For. TV off.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

TV off.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't gonna lie. I think that TV off.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

TV off.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think. But Chains and whips. Great song. Great also fire. Way to start the concert. What. What. Don't. I'm saying for real. We just gotta stick to what we know, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know beats. You know boots.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Beats and boots.

[Deontay Kyle]

Beats and boots, baby.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

B.B.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know hats.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No big hats.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know a big hat.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You know a great fed door when you see it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. And hooks.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He's great on the hooks. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Change clothes and go. That was. You should have taught him that when they asked. Sexy. Sexy. Best melodic rap performance, Friday featuring Meek Mill. Proud of me. Great track. God damn. Shout out to you for getting nom. That was a. That was wholeheartedly jid featuring ty$sign in black.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

What?

[Deontay Kyle]

Luther.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

I. We don't need to say anything.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He got it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Kendrick got it. Best rap song, Dochi Anxiety Birds won't sing. The Birds don't sing. Clips. Sticky, Tyler, the Creator, tgif, Gorilla. Oh, okay. TV off. Kendrick. I' ma say birds don't sing.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I'M gonna go, birds don't sing. Yeah. I'm gonna go, birds don't sing. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Birds don't sing. But. And that is a hell of a way to end the concert.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

To end the concert.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm looking at your folks in the house.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Look at your parents.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm looking at your parents directly. Eye contact, like, God damn, damn.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Shout out to the ancestors.

[Deontay Kyle]

Especially they, dad. Dad. Looking in your.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

In your face. He look just like them, too.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I mean, I'm just saying. You know how black people are, you know? You know how black people.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I'm just saying, like, no dead ass.

[Deontay Kyle]

When Push be doing this, you see where you get it from?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

His dad.

[Deontay Kyle]

Serious eye contact.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Didn't play no games with him.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's why he ain't blink. Whole time he was talking to Jimmy, he was. You run from the spirit of repossession. Yeah. That's genetic.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

The eye contact, you inherited it. Yeah. Yeah. You come from a long way. Strong eye contact.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Strong.

[Deontay Kyle]

That ain't playing.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Strong black men.

[Deontay Kyle]

Strong black men. That ain't playing no games.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Strong eye contact. You better not look down. You better not look down.

[Deontay Kyle]

They was trained not to look away from a. When they talking to him. You hear me? Stop playing. We play too much.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, we do.

[Deontay Kyle]

Black. Black rap album. I was gonna say black rap album. Best episodes in my. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Best rap album. Let God son him out. Clips. Glorious. Glorilla. God does like ugly J, I D. Shout out Jid. Getting the grandma. Gnx. Kendrick. Chroma, Copia, Tyler. I'm gonna go gnx. It's tough, man. GNX was hard, bro.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Gnx Tough. It's tough. Great album.

[Deontay Kyle]

It ain't no skips on.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

There ain't no skips on the clips.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a couple of these albums don't have no skips.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

JD Is fire. He's not gonna win, but he's fire.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna say let God sort him out. But then again, I was gonna say for the story. But then again, what better story than gmx?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It's gnx.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's gnx.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It's Kendrick season. Yeah, it's Kendrick season.

[Deontay Kyle]

Kendrick is up in his mouth. Someone go handle my grammy right now.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, see, you said he own. He owned this. Prophesized it in the diss track.

[Deontay Kyle]

God damn. That's the only thing.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Only thing you want, baby. What's the prophecy?

[Deontay Kyle]

The prophecy. All right, all right. Well, that's all the hip hop.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's all of us.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's. That's it. That's it for us. Field number five, they got R B. I ain't even know how many categories they had at the Grammys. It's a lot of categories. It's a long show.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's what I tell you.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Wrap it up. Wrap that up. Get off the stage.

[Deontay Kyle]

We in category 83. What's category 83? Last category is 95, best contemporary classical composition.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Can you leave?

[Deontay Kyle]

Ah, you gotta be able.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Can you leave the Grammys?

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta be able to leave, son. By the time they start talking about the classical music.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, I'm outta here.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm out.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I'm at the other party.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, hip hop is category 25.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah. We complain about 25.

[Deontay Kyle]

About 30. I'm out.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Contemporary classical music is 98.

[Deontay Kyle]

God damn. Wrap it up.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Wrap this up right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Wrap that up, B, man. Yeah, I. I can see. I can see conservatively, each one of them walking away with one.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yes, for sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

Kendrick Tyler and the clips. I can see realistically, Kendrick just having a sweet sweep.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, that's a tough one.

[Deontay Kyle]

He is a Grammy darling because they love him.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

They love him at the Grammys.

[Deontay Kyle]

They fucked him over that first time. Yeah. Because they gave Macklemore album of the year, which is. And have we heard anything from Macklemore since? First of all, Never even heard that album. That one? Nah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Like what?

[Deontay Kyle]

Never heard of it. This is. This is, you know, Macklemore is a great example of how white people are rewarded for being mediocre. This is the pampered society theory. This is an original theory of my own.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

That the way that you keep control over society is by pampering the biggest population. Biggest population being white people. This being a white supremacist country, it's a win. Win. You keep them pampered. So entry level job, pays a black person $85,000 a year. Pays a white person $120,000 a year. That's a stark difference.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And the amount of not only capital that you have, but consumption that you put back into society. White people feverishly consume. When you think about the Starbucks teddy bear cup, it ain't black people lined up around the corner. It's white people lined up around the corner for a $40 cup. Now, when it comes to, like, street wear and sneaker culture, we'll line up. Yeah, I ain't never personally lined up.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Me neither.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm never lining up.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Not for a sneaker.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm not lining up for nothing.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I lining up.

[Deontay Kyle]

I line up for a Free house. Yeah, like you give me a five and two. Five, Two, five. A five, two, five. Maybe five and three. Okay, that'd be a preference.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Free five bedroom, three bathroom house with a basement.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You're winning.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'll wait in line. Yeah, I'll camp out.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I'll be there the week before.

[Deontay Kyle]

You hear me? I want my house today. Yeah, I'll be homeless for a week.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Sign me up, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Sign me up. Free car.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Hey, depend on the car.

[Deontay Kyle]

What's the car you not lining up for like a RAV4?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, not lining up for that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gotta keep it a being. It's still a car and it's free. It is. I'm lining up.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I ain't going for the RAV4.

[Deontay Kyle]

So as long as that say 20, 25 on it.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I'm lining up.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't give a fuck if it's a punch buggy. People like, God damn this n getting.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Unknown tripping a punch buggy.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm getting a punch buggy. Convertible. A convertible punch buggy. You got 20 folds on that.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's a wild ladybug.

[Deontay Kyle]

The punch dunk.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

The punch dunk. That can't even move. Stationary. The first stationary car ever. Bitch cannot move.

[Deontay Kyle]

Brand new engine, don't drive zero miles. Let me get back to my yo yo, get back to us. You pamper people in this society to keep them at bay, to keep them out of revolution, right? There is no glaring problems for white people. It's, you know, put, put the frog in a boiling pot situation. You, you, you put them in room temperature water and then you boil it slowly over time. By the time they realize they boiling, they dead. For the black people in this country, the water has always been boiling hot. Duh. Work twice as hard to get half as much mentality. This has ring true in most every industry and situation in this country. Education, housing, politics, voting, just having human rights. So when you have situations like Rainbow Coalition, Fred Hampton, where he unites Latino people, poor white people and black people under the common denominator being capitalism and a fascist government. A government that oppresses the people and not helps the people. And we can all agree that we aren't being helped by this power structure. This power structure is oppressing us regardless of our race, our social status in this country, our class status in this country is keeping us under the boot of oppression. And we need to unite together on that front to fight against it. They was like, nigga, we need to make him public enemy number one and take him down, right? Police still go shoot UP Chairman Fred Hampton's grave site every year. Ritualistic for what he represented the Black Panthers. The same program that y' all say people don't need. Wic. Snap. These programs were implemented and stolen from the Black Panther Party. Women, infant and children. That's what the Black Panther Party was all about. Feeding women, infants and children. And now we have government instituted programs that fund this with our taxpaying dollars every year. Even though for some reason this year they just can't find the money. So the fear of this society is a class based fear. The working class people unionizing, the working class people working together and organizing the working class people recognizing there's a ruling class that are taking our rights and benefits right up front out from underneath us. Every day while we argue and bicker about our differences, we do have one thing in common. We're getting fucked. In order for the majority of white people to not feel that way, you have to pamper them because they are the majority consumer base. So the idea of the middle class is the suburban white family. That's the, that's the ideal. What we talk about, the, the, the three bedroom house with the four bedroom house with three kids and two cars and a dog. The American dream. And these people can go and they can work their jobs and they can afford to pay bills and they can afford to fund for two cars and go on two vacations every years. And their kids are in programs and nice clothes, nice shoes, nice neighborhood, pay the HOA fees, Big old Christmas tree, nice honey baked ham. Consumers. Hey, this is the hot new artist. You should go listen to him now then go listen to him. This is the hot new artist. He's having a concert near you. Go to the concert. These are the cool shoes. Hey dude, these are the cool shoes. Now you see, this is what I talk about. The uniformity, white supremacy. They all look the same because they all follow the same trends, because they're all hyper consumers. The trends come from the corporations. They don't come from the street. Our trends come from the street. Their trends come from corporations being told to consume. So if you keep a society like that, pampered by giving them more, then success just seems like a byproduct of hard work. You know, you go to college, you get the degree, you get the job, you get the house, you get the car, you get married, you have a couple kids, you coast into retirement, you retire, move down to Florida. That's a good life. That's how it worked for the boomers. Unfortunately, millennials know that's not how it's going for us. God damn.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Hard times of the millennials.

[Deontay Kyle]

God damn. Go to College. Your degree, 250. The house, 500. The car, 50 racks, the job, 85K a year. The fuck I go to school for? But in a pampered society, that job might be 150, might be 200. Yeah, you're in the next 30 years of your life drowning in debt. But you'll be able to afford it in a little comfort, luxuries. And if you listen to the hustle guys, all you gotta do is stop buying the coffee every morning. You'll get ahead. Just stop getting the matcha. You'll be able to get ahead. Yes, yes, yes. Less luxuries, more debt. Pay that debt. Pamper Chris Rock moving to a neighborhood. His neighbor, white man, dentist. Chris Rock. Has to be excellent to live next to a dentist. Now, no specifications, maybe family owned dentistry, things like that. Maybe inherited a very lucrative business. But black people have to go above and beyond. He had to entertain millions of peoples to enter to live next to a dentist. You think that dentist want to hear about that nigga's struggles. You live next to me, can't have no problems. I don't have no problems. All I have to do is go to school, apply myself, you know, hustle, keep your head down. You hustle for a few years, get a house like this. Racism, oppression, I don't want any of that. That ain't. That shit ain't real. Yeah, they don't want to hear about your obstacles when they have none. Actually they feel like you're lying. Life's been pretty good. What do you mean? The cops are killing black people. What are you talking about? Never had no problems with a cops. Matter of fact, my uncle's a cop. He's a pretty good guy. Occasionally get drunk, beat his wife, still a good guy. His dad beat his mom, he's in therapy. Pamper you. Pamper them. Now when you pamper society, especially a large consumer based sector of society, what it does is keep them out of revolution. What it does is make them a little apolitical. What it does is make them not want to rock the boat. Because by rocking the boat, basically what you asking them to do is take their pamper off. Nobody wants to take the pamper off. Once you got to put on and you living in life luxury and everything's good. It's all clear skies, it's all green lights, no traffic. Work, work. Today was a breeze, but the heat being turnked up. Farmers are saying God damn. I can't sell my beef. I can't sell my beans. I voted to get rid of these immigrants. Not the ones that work for me, the other ones. The ones that's making the country a harder place. The one that got you raising my taxes. This is what I'm talking about. Last week, looking side to side, looking down. You're not looking up. Why you not. Why are you looking side to side and looking down? They turn the heat up. They ripping that pamper off. While you're pampered, you doubt the woes of society. You doubt the oppressed class of people in society. You doubt their stories, you doubt their struggles, you doubt their pains. White men become cops. White women become nurses to inflict pain on black bodies with impunity because they got the degree, they got the credentials, they got the badge, they got the scrubs. And they live in the pampered class of society. That tells them you were smart, you was kind, and they believe it. And they'll watch a black woman sit here going into labor screaming to the top of her lungs while you ask her routine questions instead of getting her to a bed so she can deliver her baby when she delivered 12 to 15 minutes after that video shut off. No, dei, If you're not going to hire and diversify your workforce, you're only going to hire white people. That means you're just going to hire a bunch of fucking racists that are pampered by society. And the fucked up thing about that pamper is it itches. This doesn't feel real. These people that you're saying that I'm better than are outperforming me. But Donald Trump, he's going to get rid of all of it. Didn't he just, like, reclassify nursing?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. The Department of Education, what was it? It's not a professional degree.

[Deontay Kyle]

Being a nurse.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's what I said.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now, I wonder, With the growing rate of nurses, what ethnic group is occupying those spaces the most? You already know. Here's the thing. The water is reaching its boiling point. We don't trust you. I'm not going to trust you. And you're going to be looking for us to do the work when we've been doing the work and we've been telling you and you've been being rewarded for being mediocre so you can uphold the stereotypes, so you can uphold the rhetoric, you can uphold the belief system of white supremacy. They keep you pampered. And they know by giving you more that you'll spend more. Because at the Root and the core of it all. None of you seem to be happy. And a big way that they pampered you in society is by giving you supervisory positions and paying you in power. And forget about having the skills. A lot of people with all the skills don't benefit from any of the production. And we in a burning house. Burning house called capitalism. And y' all still trying to apply paint to the walls. We'll be right back after this commercial break. We back the cat. We back. Come on down to the Kumbaya coffee shop.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Get you a nice Doucet latte, baby. Take all your stress away.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, ye. Get you a cut water espresso coffee.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Hey, listen, cut water Espresso are catching DUI before 8:30 in the morning are catching charges.

[Deontay Kyle]

You hear me? DUI hitting runs are going to jail, brother.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Cut water coffee is running bus stop. The bus stop sign them kids.

[Deontay Kyle]

Vehicular manslaughter.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, my God.

[Deontay Kyle]

Off the cold water espresso. Order coffee.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

We back.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Big ice cup you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, I know y' all don't let go back. I know, I know, I know.

[Young caller from Senpai 77]

But look, I'm gonna be quick. I don't know if this is going to come back on the same episode or not, but I ended up having to call on the same day. I was talking about VA versus Virginia. Not really verses, but like, like, like, like is is.

[Deontay Kyle]

There's a first part to his. Oh, that's what I'm just now realizing. We're gonna move on. It's a little too long for me, brother.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Hey, yo.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shut up, man. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, yo. All right, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Come on, man.

[Young caller from Senpai 77]

Hey, Deontay Kyle and big ice cup cat. I love the pod. I just calling to get some advice. Young 24 year old, just got my master's in May, but I'm a photographer creative and I've got years of experience in the sports world as a sports creative. And I've been unemployed for like the last six months and I've had the education experience and it kind of feels like it's all amounted to nothing just because, I mean, I got the talent. I've networked with other people in the field that's in the positions they say the work is great, time is coming, but ain't nothing landed just yet. Getting ghosted from interviews and all of that. So it's kind of advice. Should I try to keep with it? Should I pivot? Because I invested a lot of time and money into this career field and this is something I've been doing since I was 14, 15. I am lucky to know I wanted to be a photographer when I was growing up. So I kind of focus on that and I love taking pictures, love being creative and all of that. But it just felt like I've done all the steps that everybody says you need to get to getting to that next success level where I haven't seen the fruits of my labor yet and these bills keep coming and I don't got no job to come to it. I mean I have a part time job but the bills are still building and yeah, I'm just wondering should I keep trying to push forward and try to dug it out so I get it or did I pivot? Also if you ever need a photographer or another creative, I would love to be on that. But yeah, thank you for your time and keep doing what y' all doing. I love the pod.

[Deontay Kyle]

Young brother from senpai 77 look man, the thing is is like creative endeavors are normally bruh, to be honest, it is like a whole networking thing. Like you gotta know the right people that can put you in positions to actually make money and book you consistently and you know, things like that. But I would say more than anything, you know, if you not seeing the fruits of the labor, then you gotta pivot from career to you know, hobby side job type vibe and figure out the main thing that's gonna make sure that your bills are paid, you know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, you know, you can't eat the photo, you know what I'm saying? That's like thing you don't have to give up on it as a career and you can send us some photos like send me your portfolio to deontayantaykyle.com I'll share with some people that I know in the Virginia area and abroad if you travel abroad and you do shit like that. But I would say you got to make sure you can take care of yourself too. You know, oftentimes we'll be sold on this idea of like, you know, the next big break is coming and things like that, you know what I'm saying? But I would say if you were in a position where like you said the bills are piling up and you feel like you're falling behind and you're not really striking or catching no momentum, then I would say figure out what it is that you want to do to make sure that your livelihood is taken care of and then maybe try some different arenas of photography. If you're really good, do those. Do Those, like photography jobs like weddings, do some athletic photo shoots and things like that, and just kind of go somewhere where you feel like you can add value, even if it's not necessarily the path that you see ahead for you creatively. It'll open up the paths when you start making some money. So you got to go into the spaces of where things are. You gotta go into these spaces where things like, where you actually doing something with your talent and skill that can make you money. So, you know, it might not be glamorous to take wedding photos, but they be paying. You know what I'm saying? It might even not be glamorous to be, you know, a photographer at all these different events and like that on some paparazzi type, but they be paying. So you gotta go to places where you can get paid. You got to build out your portfolio. Portfolio and maybe get into, Maybe get into the corporate gig of it all. But you, you know, and then you can save your passion projects and your creativity. You know, you can keep that on the side. But you're gonna have to find something that can fund those endeavors as well. So, you know, just, just a small pivot. It's all about pivoting, you know what I'm saying? When something ain't clicking, man, you know, you, you, you going to have to. You, you got to pivot. Like, that's one thing that I learned in this life for sure. Like, if you putting in a lot of effort into something and you're not seeing any benefits of it, it's time to pivot. You think big head.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No, you. No, I ain't got nothing to say. You said it all. Said it all, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, we got Another caller from Virginia. 7x7.

[Colin from Virginia]

Hey, I'm Colin from Virginia from the Seven Cities. I wanted to know your thoughts about black people doing creative stuff in white spaces and white establishments. I used to work in the service industry and when I.

[Deontay Kyle]

My bad. Shout out to kids, friends knocking on the dogs. These kids is gone, baby. Thanksgiving break with the granny. All right, let's continue. All right, should we start over? It's only 20 seconds in.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, start up.

[Colin from Virginia]

Hey, I'm calling from Virginia from the Seven Cities. I wanted to know your thoughts about black people doing creative stuff in white spaces and white establishments. I used to work in the service industry and when I wanted to do something for my birthday, I had some DJs come that I knew because I'm really into the arts. I used to do slam poetry. I used to do a lot of art stuff and Right now I have my own business. That's a whole other thing. But anyway, I asked some of my DJ friends to do stuff there and I stopped working there because there was this whole situation with them not protecting the women who work there. There was someone who was harassing me and other people and then decided to quit there because they weren't protecting their staff. I'm not going to go through all the who's and how's about what happened with that. But basically I started working there and there are people I know who still do events there. I do know. I hear that, you know, they have an issue with keeping up with the crowd. Like I'm around people who do a lot of events and things like that, but even as far as service, like those people can't even keep up with the crowd, you know. Anyway, I wanted to know what you thought about that. And also because I'm doing the work to educate people about who do and things like that. Like I'm a spiritual practitioner and one of my issues is me having people work against me wanting to educate people like my own people. So I just want to know what your thoughts were about that.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, as long as you're not educating people publicly, I'm cool with that. You know what I'm saying? Close practices should not be practiced or talked about in mixed companies. Anybody that's against you teaching your own people, practitioner ways and things like that, I'm sure there's a, you know, I don't know the hierarchy of those societies, spiritual communities, but there has to be some like standards and practices about how they go about who gets to educate who and how and what like that I'm sure. So I would tap into maybe some people who are, are a little bit more wise than you in those spaces. And in those practices I would probably go to the people that taught you. And if you sell, if you're self taught, that may be an issue, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because you just teach yourself and now you teaching others is get a little tricky. As far as. I'm not really clear on like what you was asking.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, I wasn't clear on because then.

[Deontay Kyle]

You kind of like, it's like you started a question and then you kind of went into an experience, but it didn't really like help me get any context for like what it is you want me to answer. Because it's like you talking about black people practicing creative things in white spaces and like what capacity, you know what I'm saying? Like I don't Know, I'm very unclear about the question, so I'm not gonna get into that. But definitely on the last question, you know, just. I mean, make sure that you're qualified to teach people these things for one, and then two, you know, make sure you're not talking about these type of things in mixed company. That's the only way I could see you getting some pushback or criticism for, like, that. But other than that, you know, do you think shot? All right, we got two questions. We're gonna get up out of here. I'm tired of my daughter's mom.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, love a good mess.

[Deontay Kyle]

And we back. We be blessed. And then we give them the mess. Yeah. What's going on, cousins? First of all, I want to say big, big, big shout out to the. To you, Deontay and big Ice cup Cat. I respect the movement. I appreciate the wisdom and opinions. It's very gratifying and humbling to be a part of a community of people that think similar to me but also have their own thought processes. I gained so much from YouTube and the Discord Patreon. Shout out to the cousin.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, $8.

[Deontay Kyle]

That said, I'm tired of taking care of my daughter's mother. Little bit of perspective. The relationship has always been a bit rocky, but we made it work. I'm not perfect. I've done my best to be the best I can be for myself and my kids. Currently, I've been the only person working and paying for everything for the last two years before we moved to where we are now. I had lost my job. She was pregnant and working, and I understood the frustration when we moved, I had no problem being the only one working because I felt that she deserved that much. I wasn't out of work long, and the problem is now she's still not working almost three years later. Complains all day, sits on social media all day, just not doing anything and going nowhere. Now a part of me feels obligated to let her stay because we have a daughter together, and she literally has nowhere else to go. No car, no money. But at this point, I'm just tired of taking care. Oh, I'm just tired of carrying her along like unpacked luggage. Is that wrong? Not sure what to do. Would really appreciate if you and big ice Cat. Big ice cup cat could shoot some words of wisdom my way. Appreciate y'. All. Love y'. All. Keep up the phenomenal work, brothers. My baby mother's a bum. Hey, man, Big Cat seem like more esp.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's my speed. God damn. Stop Being a simp, son, Stop being a sim.

[Deontay Kyle]

You can't call that. Tell us.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You can tell us. You gotta tell us. You gotta do something. No, tell us. You gotta do something, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, no, we say simping you. Yeah, bro, you're just not putting your foot.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Come on, Cass.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I mean, does she. Does she clean the house? Does she cook?

[Deontay Kyle]

Does she cook? Clean? He says she'd be on social media.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

All day.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just not doing anything and going nowhere. It says shorty going nowhere. She's going nowhere. God damn. Damn, son. Shorty's going nowhere.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I mean, is she a stay home mom? Like. Like, is she taking care of the house and taking care of the baby? Like.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I mean, because that's a job.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, that's a job in itself.

[Deontay Kyle]

But it doesn't seem like she.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Is she just on social media because.

[Deontay Kyle]

It seems like he would have. You know what I mean, saying included that now they got a baby. I mean, I'm sure she got to be taking care of the baby.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's too shallow of email.

[Deontay Kyle]

I need more details. Yeah, I mean, I have your side of the story. You know what I'm saying? And it's like you going to make yourself, you know, just, you know, set.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Up a webcam in the crib. Let's see. She's on social media. Let's see what she's doing all day.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, scared myself. I scared myself. I scared myself. The thing is, is like, if she literally is just bumming three years, no job is.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, but does he give her money? Is he giving her money?

[Deontay Kyle]

He's definitely, yeah. New baby. I think a year or two at the crib ain't bad.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think year three, it can get a little tricky.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think also gaps in resume just do make it hard to get jobs. I think also.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No.

[Deontay Kyle]

You need to probably communicate this stuff to her. It feels like this may be a situation where you're not really, like communicating how you feel. You just kind of internalizing it and maybe like passively aggressively complaining about it. But if you're not gonna be direct to her and tell her like how you feel and what you feel the problems are, you're not gonna get the results you're looking for. And then also, does she know that, like, you are low key resenting her or y' all just in the crib chilling, like, everything good. She think everything good. And you just like low key over there building up resentment. So it's also not fair of you to resent her for something that you haven't brought up. And you told us a lot in here, and you didn't say anything about addressing these things with her. So I would suggest starting there and then working your way back. Maybe she doesn't even know how you feel like this. And, you know, when you get into a routine, especially like a sedentary and lackadaisical routine, man, that make time go by pretty fast. So voice your frustrations in a mature way. You know, let her know how you feel. But don't also be in a situation that you don't want to be in because of, like, pity or obligation. But also, like, don't be in a situation like, where you just taking care of this girl and you ain't complaining about it at all. And then complain to us like, we need to know if you are addressing these feelings with her and it's just not going anywhere and it's falling on deaf ears or are you just kind of sitting in the background building up resentment and she only knows how you feel for real. So those questions need to be answered, and then we can move on from there. Y' all have a great day, brother. I hope y' all figure it out. Advice for a little cousin. Hey, Deontay. Hey, big ice cup Cat Love, y'. All. Appreciate y'. All. And I hope y' all know how important y' all voices are for the times cousins. Let's get into it. I'm 25, and my boyfriend is 37.

[Young caller from Senpai 77]

Mm.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Okay, let's. Let's read it to the emails. Like, what do you. What did they have to talk about?

[Deontay Kyle]

What age did they meet?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, how long they been together?

[Deontay Kyle]

All right. Jesus Christ. We've been dating for almost a year now.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, this is fresh. This is fresh. This is fresh.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm 35. If I made a 30. If I met a 24 year old today, I would say, what's up, little cousin? Keep it pushing. Nothing to talk about, nothing coming. 10 years. 10 years is a crazy gap.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's a. That's a. That's a gap.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a real gap.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's a gap.

[Deontay Kyle]

That is a gap. We've been dating for almost a year now. I know this is. I know this is it. He's expressed it. Marriage is a clear next step.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

I can live my housewife dreams.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, my God.

[Deontay Kyle]

But I recently went out with my brother for his friend's birthday. We're all in our 20s sections. Bottles and niggas are out, and we live in Atlanta. Outside. So you know what the vibe she said?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Old niggas is outside in their 20s. My old man at home.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna tell you what right now, brother. I don't want to compete with no 25 year old strong back. Strong back. Put your through a mattress. I'm personally relying on round two these days.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh my God.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, strong back, good wing hitting on the all cylinder. He don't gotta go get no blood work.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He's well calibrated.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, son. That ain't worried about his cholesterol, his blood pressure, his sugar nothing, son. He ain't worried about none of that, son.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's a new car off the lot.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's a new car off the lot, baby. That mother got 10,000 miles on it, man. That's a brand new car.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Good oil pressure.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm sitting in the bed. 250,000 miles on it. Give out any day. Okay. Come on.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

What's up with the email sucking?

[Deontay Kyle]

We are in our 20s. Shorty said sections bottles and the niggas are out.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

The niggas outside.

[Deontay Kyle]

We live in Atlanta. So you know what the vibes is. This is the first time I question, do I really want to be with this man for the rest of my Life? I'm only 25.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I'm glad you came to your senses.

[Deontay Kyle]

God damn. It's the first time. Yeah, but I love him. Attraction out of 10. Most considerate, dependable man in my life. Really? My best friend wouldn't trade him for the world. 1000 pros and one con. How do I accept that I'm giving up my 20s, the best years of my life for the love of my life? A few drunk nights isn't worth that. Thank y'. All.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I mean, it's like y' all got your mind made up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, like your husband, shorty.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You know, I don't think you're giving.

[Deontay Kyle]

Up your 20s, but I'm saying this, I'm saying you're gonna be 28. This ain't gonna be 40.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He's gonna be 40. You still gonna be in your 20s. That 40.

[Deontay Kyle]

Good looking 28 year olds outside, good.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Handsome young men, full head of hair.

[Deontay Kyle]

Prostate chick. Jesus Christ, when she 38, this gonna be 50. Do you hear me?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Think about it like that, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't think this is gonna go the way you think.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Nah. Do you want kids with her?

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, oh my God, I hope not.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

My God.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think the age gap is crazy. I'm quite honest. Yeah, but if he just like, if he just this great guy, I Need to know more.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Probably at the crib, drinking, going outside.

[Deontay Kyle]

She ain't worried about.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

She worried about nothing.

[Deontay Kyle]

He ain't even calling the phone.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No, he ain't calling her. He's like, stay outside, do your thing.

[Deontay Kyle]

I need to rest my knees.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Dress is back.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, Play pickup. I ain't been the same since o fall apart. Got him a young hot thing though.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Hot, tender.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, man, he be bragging about her. See? How old? 25. He 37.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

37.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, this thing, bro, it sound like you ready to. I mean, you like. Yo, you got dreams of being a housewife? I've never. Well, you know, I've never heard of it. Not in this day and age. Dreams have been a housewife, you know, strong minority baby. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I suppose if you're happy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

She's not happy. I mean, she's happy.

[Deontay Kyle]

A thousand pros, one con. That's a big con, though. You dating an old man, a middle aged man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And I'm telling you, I'm 35.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I'm 36.

[Deontay Kyle]

If Big Cat was talking to a 25 year old.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I would be cursing him. Yeah. We wouldn't be friends actually. This creep, he's wild. This thing tripping. I suppose, if you're happy, man, you know what I'm saying? Like, what does your mama think about this?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Has even met your mom yet?

[Deontay Kyle]

You see what I'm saying? Y' all only been together a year.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And what's his past like? Like what's his past relationship?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He could meet another 35, 30.

[Deontay Kyle]

It ain't even about that. It's just what happened.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, what happened too. Yeah. Maybe he wanted them. That was career. Career driven. Could be young, hot, got him a young thing.

[Deontay Kyle]

He might be in great shape.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He might be. He might be in great shape.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't gonna lie, son. We talking about it from our drunk dad perspective.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

On all goddamn night drinking tequila in the gym. He in the gym.

[Deontay Kyle]

Five in the morning, might be at the gym while she out. Go ahead, baby.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, I'm hit this jail.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna go.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Do you know he gotta keep up? He know he has to keep up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Better know.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You know he gotta keep up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, with a young, hot 25 year old. You talking about? The are outside. He probably. They live in Atlanta, so, you know, I mean, he's.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He, he. He's probably doing his thing. He's probably in the gym.

[Deontay Kyle]

Career 25 is crazy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, but 25 is like where y' all meet at? Why y' all think. Why you think that was okay?

[Deontay Kyle]

It's Atlanta, man. Anywhere it could have been the gym.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I mean, but you know, I'm 25 year olds. They do be going for it.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, because they'd be grown. Yeah, because they, you know, in their mind, they grown and they mind.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, they like, I'm gonna grow and they.

[Deontay Kyle]

And if she got her degrees and all, her. And she in her career, she's probably getting a little chilly, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

And she probably want some other like these. The are outside but they immature type.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, they're not considerate. You know, It's a grown ass, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It looked. It looked good. But it ain't nothing I want. It just look good cause I'm outside.

[Deontay Kyle]

Aunt like, shit, she young, she 25. She ain't got too many experiences. Yeah, she got too much heartbreak aunt probably. I'm saying it's a crazy age.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It is a crazy age, gang.

[Deontay Kyle]

But the thing is, it's not crazy as like 30 day and an 18 year old. No.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Well, only reason why is is. Is because it's 10. It's 10 plus years. It's 12 years. So at 12, she was even born.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, he in the seventh, seventh grade.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

She's even born.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, they get a little. They get a little walking.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Walkie.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because I strongly feel at 37, everybody you date should have three in front of they. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

37, a 30 year old. I mean, even if it was a 10 year, you know, at 37, if she was 27, 28, 29, she was.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

She was getting ready to go into a 30.

[Deontay Kyle]

She's getting ready to go into the 30. I don't know, man. This ain't the question. I don't know.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I've been saying that.

[Deontay Kyle]

I've been saying she on Tick Tock. I honestly can't. The age gap part is just for me because it ain't my vibe. You know what I'm saying? I'm not doing that.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Because if I make a joke and you don't on the reference. What the.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's what I'm saying. What y' all talking about?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, nothing.

[Deontay Kyle]

She 25. Sh. She was born in the year 2000. That was born in 87. 88. I'm saying that, son, it's not for me. Hey, listen, and then also like one of those, you know, you could sit there and say, you know, anybody can say the thing that need to be said Oh, a couple of drunk nights ain't worth it. But one of them drunk nights Young might catch you one skat catching a skat one in bedazzled Bedazzled pants Catch you in the bedazzled pants Young in bedazzled pants Catch you a lot of bedazzled fashion.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. On the fashionistas Twisting the bottle over.

[Deontay Kyle]

His head might get you going.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Never know.

[Deontay Kyle]

He might have all the references, you know?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. I might be in a scat.

[Deontay Kyle]

What I'm saying, he might be in a Bentley.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, might be.

[Deontay Kyle]

Is he in Atlanta like that?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

He.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He send him something.

[Deontay Kyle]

I need to know more.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

What's y career? Yeah. Does he have an ex wife?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Right back, go into more detail.

[Deontay Kyle]

What's your last relationship? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? What got you. I mean, you know, I get it, you know, you ready to just gonna settle down. But it's like maybe they are compared. I don't know, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I mean, she at that age.

[Deontay Kyle]

She's grown. She's an adult.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

She's a woman.

[Deontay Kyle]

She's not a grown woman, but she's an adult woman.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I mean, women mature faster than men.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, but she's not really grown. That's psychology.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

She just had grown.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, but that's just psychology, like growing like women aren't like grown women until they hit their 30s. Men ain't grown men until they in their 30s, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is all psychology shit too. There's like factual basis behind like what's an adult versus what's a grown up, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I think she's at this crossroad where she knows she want long term. I don't think a 25 year old is really to give that to her right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Exactly.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

He outside.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, she gonna want to be outside and like, you know, you want the housewife duties and like that. Y' all ain't got no kids. Might be ready to pump a child into you though, as soon as they, you know, you ready to get married. And you just met that man a year ago, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Might be in the gym. Good vitamins on that man, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Might be vitamined up.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Good one a day for men.

[Deontay Kyle]

You hear me?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Good.

[Deontay Kyle]

All his levels good? Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Good, Good blood pressure.

[Deontay Kyle]

You see what I'm saying? I'm trying to get like unk. Yeah. Gotta get like. Cause I'm unked out.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Y' all get the gym, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm on Ed out. If I had a full sprint, it might be over for me.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Nigga might overheat.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, water pump might break. Yo, the water park breaks everywhere. I was hitting the track the other day, and, you know, it's a straightaway. Okay, so I'm hitting dead sprints on that. Straight away, I'm getting to the end of the sprint. I'm like, shit, thank God. Lord have mercy. I need to get more mobile.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I gotta get more flexible in the hips.

[Deontay Kyle]

I loosen these hips.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Got good hip flexors.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, my hips is tight. A lot of pressure the hips.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

A lot of tension on the hips.

[Deontay Kyle]

When you're doing that sprint. Real rap. Yeah. I need to turn this franchise around, man. I seen a side profiling myself, the other like, boy, that look crazy. We're a lot of gut on this, son.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You gotta put the tequila down.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gotta put the tequila down.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Gotta put the. Gotta put the dulce lattes down. You gotta put all this down.

[Deontay Kyle]

Stubborn fat.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Put that fried food down.

[Deontay Kyle]

Leave that shit alone.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Gotta leave them 10 pieces alone.

[Deontay Kyle]

Y' all gotta go fruit and veggies.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

We gotta go. A good year of clean eating, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't Gonna lie, bro. 20, 26. We gotta turn this around. Real rap. A Goodyear clean eating on me.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

We gotta change major lifestyle changes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Major lifestyle changes. We going to the Gritsnaks funeral.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yo. And the goddamn show.

[Deontay Kyle]

God damn it.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

It's just hip hop. It's just. You know what I'm saying? It's just my.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It's just rats, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Turn me up, man. It's just rap. I just want to rap. Yeah. Yeah.

[Poet or guest speaker]

They say without the proper labor, faith.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don'T stand a chance.

[Poet or guest speaker]

I put my faith in faith and stand on fertile land I planted seeds that'll indeed turn into trees before rest in peace tease get printed to me unless impeded. Matter of fact, that got me thinking back when Mr. Love was tending to his garden, schooling me to annuity before he grabbed his clubs to go golfing. And it's no coincidence that doe still had the caddy Back when woods were still the best. Don't let me roll off course here. Georgie Pops was dropping jams while I was lighting cigs. But you know, I too was listening with movies, you see that's the best that I can do Wisdom is the application of knowledge. I was picking up what he was putting down Just wasn't applying it. I ain't denying it.

[Deontay Kyle]

It. Nah.

[Poet or guest speaker]

Maybe I was too busy trying to find the balance between religion and science. Trying to get to the bottom of everything while being the highest. Like a pilot's roots. Am I right, brother? Cause I was simultaneously relaying it through reason and rhyming that I sought for us dissecting systems responsible for our imprisonment. The visionary with astigmatism in scar. Cordy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yes.

[Poet or guest speaker]

If love is blind, then what am I? You can't fight faith.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's why.