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Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty soul with a dirty mouth My knee orbit miss things things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my bitch no rest Fusion she gorgeous as I doubt my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead Tell them we gonna get this money to my pocket Sn morbid Remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage.
Brian
I like Douglas. It's not like D Dugasville is a premier tourist location. If I go to Douglasville, I'm going to the mall and I'm coming back home. And nine times out of 10, if I live in Atlanta, I'm not going to Douglasville to go to the mall. Why? Why would I go to Douglasville? I go to Cumberland eventually.
Dr. Dot
I feel like eventually Douglasville, eventually, like Alpharetta. Eventually. Some of these places is going to turn to like how New York got the Burrows. I felt like Douglasville gonna be like Queens, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think that it's just we just. We are a younger city than a lot of people. Like that knowledge too. And the thing about Atlanta, like, it's a younger. Like we've been a town for a long time, but we've been a city less time than most big cities.
Brian
Right.
Dr. Dot
We get more eyes on our development. Cause we growing in the Internet. I think we growing in front of everybody face pause. But like that's what we doing.
Brian
I can't listen. I'm gonna tell you, I can't do the pause game no more. We was with 808 mafia this morning. That's literally all we did for three hours. Pause everything for three hours, bro.
Dr. Dot
It gets crazy.
Brian
Just gonna have to let it be gay today. This gender fluid podcast today.
Dr. Dot
That's so funny, bro.
Brian
This non binary podcast. Yeah, bro, I'm cool. I done did. I know I never played and then it's like 12.
Dr. Dot
Oh yeah.
Brian
No, I already know it's overly like it was one keeping tabs on and then updating us after the pod.
Dr. Dot
Like.
Brian
Yeah, so you said this, you said that. That was crazy. That was pretty crazy. That was really crazy. That was fun though. What you been up to though?
Dr. Dot
Man Working man. Goddamn. Just finished. We toured all year. For real. We toured since January, quite literally from January to October. We was on the road to the end of October. So we did a lot of touring, which is good obviously for the pockets. I got two kids. I was like, hell yeah to everything, whatever anybody said. I was like, yeah, I'm doing it. But then I just. At the end of the T Pain tour, I released my first solo album.
Brian
Okay.
Dr. Dot
And that's been. That's been. That's been a journey. It's been a fun journey. It's been like, honestly, I feel like the genie at the end of Aladdin where that nigga just was like, ah. Like, just spazzing out. I've been feeling like that. It's been good.
Brian
Yeah. Talk more about your first album, though. It's your first solo.
Dr. Dot
It's called Howl at the Moon. It's a real expression of my life. Like, I feel like with Earth Gang, you know, we made a lot of songs about concepts, and it's more like kind of like Earth, Wind and Fire. We making these songs by these concepts that you can like, you know what I'm saying? Groove to and we turn it on his head. But with. I've always said if I wanted to do something by myself, I wanted to tell, like a real story. Like, I don't think a lot of people ever really hear about who we are as people, you know what I'm saying? So I just wanted to be super clear about that. It's a lot of Camelton Road on it. It's a lot of baby mama drama on it. It's a lot of goddamn, you know what I'm saying? It's. It's my get rich or die trying kind of story. So, okay, I wanted to put that into. Into motion, you know what I'm saying? So we were super deliberate with the sequence. Super deliberate with the motherfucking skits and shit. And, like, each song got a cover art because if you, like, flip it, it's like a book. So we like, we. We went super cerebral on this. In like, I was like, man, Atlanta also. I feel like Atlanta needs more of those. Yeah, I feel like. I feel like as a city, we don't do enough telling of our story. So sometimes that's why they discount us. Now, what they say, honestly, especially like, you know what I'm saying? I'm. When I'm big on saying, you know, Atlanta rappers don't get the lyrical credit they deserve because the beat selection, that's really all it is. They hear some premiere drums and they think this is lyrical. But, like, if we are going crazy, we make. We doing lyrical and making you dance, that's a whole different argument for a different day. But we need more Atlanta niggas telling a story on a song. Bro.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
On an album. Not. Not just a song on an album.
Brian
Do you think it's limiting when you in a group, though, like, to, you know, per song, you get one verse. Right. So there's. It's. There's. You have to begin, set, and finish a story in 16 to 18 bars.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
So it's harder to do.
Dr. Dot
We get to say less.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
Which is just, you know, that's just physics. That's not necessarily. You know what I'm saying? You can do what you can. Sometimes. We got certain songs where we, like, going back and forth, and we got certain songs where, like, I might do something, like, I might do two verses, he'll do one. But either way, you still are, like. If you could think about, like, a idea as, like, a metaphysical space, you still are sharing this space.
Brian
Correct.
Dr. Dot
There's only so much each soul can occupy.
Brian
Right. Right. So it's called Highlight the Moon. One of y' all first collector projects, though, had also had, like, a wolf theme.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. Strays of Ra Babies. Another. Another one that was thematically kind of a brainchild of me. I was super on there. Like, yeah, man. You know what I'm saying? But I always. I mean, I'm a dog person. You know what I'm saying? I had, like, six, seven dogs in my life. I always kind of connect with the nature of, like, the hunt, and I felt like I'm on a hunt. You know what I'm saying?
Brian
Yeah. Yeah. That's how I got hip. I was hip to a lot of y' all early work. Liquor store probably was like, the first thing I was like, these the niggas.
Dr. Dot
Like, we shot that shit at the same place. One shot that one video. It was like back to back. It was like, start just sliding out.
Brian
They just getting it out. Yeah, I. I think one of the. One of the biggest, like, allures of y', all, not only as a group, but you specifically, is your lyrical ability, but also, like, the range you bring to it lyrically, because you can, like, slow flow them, but you could speed it up on the tube. But it's always. It's always been in depth. It's always been like. It's like nigga consciousness. Like, you ain't overly conscious where nigga don't want to have a conversation with you. It's enough depth into it where it's like, you done live the real life and you infusing that into the messages where it's, like, not too over the head, but it do make you think I would say that that's always like, a long road to travel.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. And it is long road travel because I think, you know, the audiences are trained. Right? All audiences are trained. So, like, if audiences at large are being trained to, like, respond to a certain type of style or a certain theme, then that's just what they. You know, people are just animals at the end of the day. They just doing the training. But I think where a lot of people kind of get. From me, you know, they call it potency or lyricism or whatever. I'm just being as honest as I could be. That's my main thing. Like, I'm going in the booth and I'm like, okay, cool. I'm just gonna say this exactly how the this happened. You know what I'm saying? Take it or leave it. And I think when people see that, I think it's like a subconscious audacity to that. That folks be like, yeah, okay. Nah, he actually was bold enough to not lie. Like, every. I like the lies. Everybody like the lie. I got a bunch of songs where I know is lying to me, but I love the record. But, like, it cut through a little more when you just be, like. Just, like, looking. You know what I'm saying? I feel like I break the fourth wall of that.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
You know?
Brian
Yeah, I would agree with that. I think one of the things that I didn't. I didn't like this, per se. I understood it, like, the outcast comparisons and things. I get it Same side of Town duo. Things like that. You two niggas and y' all have, like, a relatively socially aware. A social awareness where it's like, just the next outcast. But I always felt like that was kind of like lowering the ceiling on y', all, where y' all was a lot more expressive in different ways. It was two super lyrical niggas. Cause, like, that was like a yin and yang, like the player and the conscious. But I think with y', all, y' all both balance player and consciousness within yourself.
Dr. Dot
I don't know, man. I feel like I'm more player, but I'm also.
Brian
You also didn't do the. I remember when I seen Olu doing an interview, and he was just taking the clothes off the whole time. You know what I'm talking about? I mean, yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
Dr. Dot
I don't know which one, but I.
Brian
Was like, why are you taking his clothes off?
Dr. Dot
It's the Green Goblin mask. Just do this, man. But, yeah, no, I think. I think, you know, the comparison was cool or whatever. I Get it? Like I say, two niggas, you know, whatever they gonna do. But I think what we bring to it is like a different one, just a whole different era. Like correct. Correct. At least two decades before us. At least. And then we also bring to it, like I feel like what they did was like put a bunch of eyes on Atlanta. That was their mission. They achieved their mission and beyond. They super fucking achieved their mission. I think what I feel like in my heart, our mission is or should be is to strengthen the art world here.
Brian
Yeah, yeah.
Dr. Dot
Like they put the eyes on it, we gotta strengthen it, right? We got to make it like, you know, I'm saying it has to rival Paris, it has to rival New York. It has to rival, you know, I'm saying these places that are like these as we got our city like that I feel like the quality of art and the amount of art and the type of things we do artistically that the city shows, we got to really like cement that shit. And I think that's what our generation really supposed to do.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
So, yeah, I think that's just. We just taking the torch to that level.
Brian
Like. Yeah, level, like high level art too. Yeah, that's. That's something that I'm extremely invested in. Like Maya Bailey, he got, he does like the art strolls and like Nina Baldwin Gallery, City of Ink just opened back up and that whole, that whole strip. Yeah, Shout Out Amaya Bailey, he been.
Dr. Dot
Rocking with us since I was in like high school, bro. He always been like, yeah, he be.
Brian
Showing a lot of love, but like he put on for black artists out here in a way that you don't really see. But also like all of these artists are extremely talented too. And even like hobby like the whole time. West End, it's just a hub, like a art. And I think that's one thing that's like lesser known about Atlanta. When people think about like the music, the strip club, but they don't know about the art scene and like how.
Dr. Dot
And it's strong. It's so many super talented people.
Brian
Like, it's very dynamic, you know what I'm saying? It's like one of the most. You know, I've been to a lot of different cities and you know they districts be cool. But I think here specifically is such a focal on black artists and like how extremely talented they are. You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't got to go by no. You don't got to go by no Van Gogh, you know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
Yeah, you could get like that quality or more. You know, it's really just the lore in the story. So that's what I want to do. I want to bring. Just because we, you know, as all art is, it's like how much you get people to believe in it. Right. So we just got. Got to. Got to establish that whatever that is on the. On the level that every other city has, you know what I'm saying? I think it's happening in a lot of ways. You see a lot of artists that are, you know what I'm saying, doing well. But I feel like whatever it takes to root that feeling in the city, that's what I want to like discover and make happen.
Brian
Yeah. Going solo for you though, was this always like, do you feel like you just get comfortable being in a group where it's like, like not even artistically, it's less work. But I'm saying output wise it is less. Also as a collaborative thing, I mean, it's less.
Dr. Dot
But I can't say less and more because we, we at the same time, we tour more than anybody and we record a lot. So I don't know if it's less because if we got double the songs that y' all got, then, you know.
Brian
What I'm saying, it's actually more.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
Balance it out.
Dr. Dot
Yes. But we definitely got them. I think just me going solo, I mean, it was always gonna happen with both of us. Honestly, at the end of the day, you know, we never gonna agree on every song. It's like, you know, it's like making movies together, you know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, you got Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, they made a bunch of movies together in the beginning. And then they just started taking up stories that they wanted to tell. So I think we just got stories we wanna tell that ain't gonna always be the same story. Like it's still my dogs with em today, you know what I'm saying? Still my dog. But like absolutely we gonna tell these stories, you know what I'm saying?
Brian
I think that's real though. I'm glad that it like one of the worst things is always like dynamic duos have these like fallouts, you know what I'm saying? I don't think that have to be the story. I think sometimes there is the story.
Dr. Dot
Sometimes it's just fun. And I'll be honest, I kind of wanted. I lowkey tried to orchestrate one a couple years ago. I was like, hey, you know what we should do, bro? We should do an Earth versus gang tour. Like, we beefing in. Like, he wasn't too into the idea, but that is the nature of us. Yeah, I say some shit like, bro, you know what she do? He be like, all right, man.
Brian
Calm down, bro. Like, what was one of your biggest inspirations, though, when you went into the album? I know it's like a lot about you storytelling and things like that, but are these stories you feel like you've been holding onto?
Dr. Dot
Hell yeah. A lot of them I couldn't tell. Cause it's like if I couldn't tell him through the Earth Gang lens, because, you know what I'm saying, these stories that he ain't even really went through. Just like, he got stories I ain't went through, you know what I'm saying? Some of them like. Like, for example, I know he ain't had half the, like, toxic ass to be ass drama that I've lived through. I know he has it. Cause I just be on a different time, you know what I'm saying? I was honestly up until recently a lot more nefarious member of the group. So you know what I'm saying? It's like Ralph Trazvan and I'm Bobby Brown, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I done been Bobby, so I gotta tell the Bobby Brown story, you know what I'm saying? But like, also, like, I think. I think we just. I don't know, I think. I think where it balances us. I think it's good to have like every now and then, you know, you have like the Captain Crunch to just all the berries, you know what I'm saying? Like, I just wanted to give people that just oops. All berries, bro. I want to go us all bears on. And I wanted to see for myself what that was like. I ain't never really my damn. I've been making music with this since goddamn 2010 for sure. And that's before even anybody knew about us. That's just us going to goddamn going to. Going to Mercy and Yaqui House, shout out to Pot Lord, you know what I'm saying? The first studio I ever recorded, that was his spot. But, you know, now I'm like, damn, let me just see what I sound.
Brian
Like, you know what I'm saying? Do you. When. When you choose to go solo, does that open up, like, the, you know, array of sounds you could use too?
Dr. Dot
Hell yeah.
Brian
Because you. I feel like Earth Gang does have like a sound. Earth Gang does have a sound, obviously, like. And you and you, you know, quiet as kill. You can get really, really into your rapper bag. Yeah, rapper. I. I could see you on a conductor. Be easy.
Dr. Dot
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, man. Wherever. If you see this ever, you know what the going on. But yeah, I mean, I like. I like rapping, I like singing. I like doing both. I don't like feeling like I gotta pick one on a song, you know what I'm saying? Like, I like, I was. This album is heavily inspired by Lauryn Hill's album, you know what I'm saying? Miseducation definitely inspired this. It's like Miseducation, 2B movies and Tarantino movies. And like, that's all I was watching.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
And now I was listening to, like, while in the creation of this. And that's all I was making the work on it. Watch too. So, like, everybody working. We in the studio. Turn on, turn on tubi. Yeah. That is the choices.
Brian
That's the duality of man, bro.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. And that's. That's how I wanted it. I was like, we gotta keep this, like, because we want to see this cinematic greatness, but we want to tell these stories that, like, don't necessarily get that cinematic look, you know what I'm saying?
Brian
Let's talk about some of your more nefarious activity, you know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
I'm open book.
Brian
What you. Well, you said, like, I'm one nefarious member. What you mean?
Dr. Dot
Drugs, whores? Yeah, you know, whatever, bro.
Brian
Sex, drugs and rock and roll type.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, exactly. Just say drugs and rock and roll has been kind of like my vibe out the gate. More pensive at first. And then he got super rock starry. And then he got super into, like, spirituality and yoga. So I feel that, you know what I'm saying, I'll be stretchy too, but, like, I'd be also stretching the limits of the mind.
Brian
Yeah. I too have had my fair share of drugs and whores and, you know.
Dr. Dot
It'S a good time, bro. I ain't gonna hold you, man.
Brian
It's a great time. It can turn into a tubi movie quick.
Dr. Dot
It can turn into a tubi movie quick. And as I've matured about my business, I care less about that shit. So I feel like I'm one of the lucky ones. I ain't get addicted to anything. I'm not. I ain't never been like, oh, I need. I gotta have a fixing. I forget. I'll have a bag of weed now forever. I got kids now. I can't be Hiring them niggas, they too active.
Brian
I be like, how old your kids?
Dr. Dot
Young as fuck. My son about to turn eight on Friday. And then, hey, hey, hey. Yeah, big eight.
Brian
He'll be eight by the time this come out.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, that's my big dog. So. Yeah. Happy birthday, little man. Love you. And then my daughter about to be two in April.
Brian
Okay. Yeah.
Dr. Dot
So she going crazy right now. Yeah, she's little.
Brian
Yeah. I got. My youngest is. My baby is seven. That's my. My daughter. And then my two oldest is boys. My oldest 14.
Dr. Dot
But he taller than you did.
Brian
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dr. Dot
My son is gonna be taller than me. I'm just like, man, well, his mama.
Brian
So like, his granddad on his mama's side, he got down like 6, 4. And then all his goddamn siblings and nephews is like, six, four, six, six. So I knew it. Like, fifth grade. I like, damn, he gonna stretch out way taller than me. But he cool as though, like, that's my homie.
Dr. Dot
Like, are y' all alike in a lot of ways?
Brian
Yeah, for sure. He take up a lot of similar interests as me, but also, like, he getting into that 14 year old, like, I got a girlfriend, I got fly shoes, and, like, I'm good, bro. He was like, I don't really be needing. He asked me the other day for, like. He was like, I want some equipment so I can start making beats. He's like, I figured it out. I don't want to be in front of the camera. He's like, that's your thing. He's like, I used to want to rap, but I think it'd be cooler to make the songs that rappers rap too. I was like, you got a good head on your shoulder.
Dr. Dot
I'm about to say it's some good thinking right there. Some good thinking right there.
Brian
I always told him, though, that, like, the more money, the most money you gonna make is behind the scenes. Yeah.
Dr. Dot
I mean, that's with anything. That's with anything. Because you get. You get one way more opportunities the more in front you are. It looked like a lot of opportunities than it is in a lot of ways. But also it's like a lot of opportunities as this. You know what I'm saying?
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
The podcast shit is put on more hats.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
Gotta do your thing.
Brian
I always keep telling everybody, like, the long term goal is to get behind the camera. I want to write and direct.
Dr. Dot
How long term is that for you? Like, 15 years, 10 years? Five?
Brian
Less than that. To keep this podcast, like, short and sweet. I'm gonna keep it real. I don't really see us doing more than 250 episodes.
Dr. Dot
I'm gonna call cap on that. Gonna do more than that, bro. What? Right up right at 249. Disney gonna buy this or something. Apple gonna buy this.
Brian
Like, but. Yeah, but see then, like, that's the thing. I don't want to work for nobody.
Dr. Dot
I feel that though.
Brian
Cause like, this took me away from a nine to five and this we just did. Episode 101 just dropped today. So it's like I seen you had.
Dr. Dot
Your grandma on 100.
Brian
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was love, man. But I. I'm looking at it like it ain't like maybe, maybe a season two, you know what I'm saying? Maybe it'll come back. But like by that time, like, the music show will be going. We gotta get you on the music show too. We bringing. So speaking of Atlanta and art and eco. Ecosystem of art, we gonna start third. Mute these mics real quick. A few moments later. By that time, I feel like I've been so established in the media space that I'll be able to do other things. The music show will be extremely est established by then. Big Cat will have his own going where it's like, it's. It's our thing together. But he. The more forward facing one on that show and it'll allow me to do other things that I want to do, like act, write, direct. You know what I'm saying? So I think the easiest way to get behind the camera is to stay in front of it in a different space. So now I'm talking in front of it, but acting in front of the camera for a few bits. Learning the movie industry, learning that, and then eventually writing and directing it. I got like three scripts I'm just sitting on.
Dr. Dot
I feel that, bro.
Brian
You know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
I wrote like one script in the Pandemic and then I did a ton of auditions, got super close to one show and then lost it last minute. And then I started doing like, I did some voiceover work and some merchants and. But like, I'm trying to get on that acting bad too.
Brian
It just seem fun, you know what I'm saying? I wanted.
Dr. Dot
I want.
Brian
Okay, so like, I want to do.
Dr. Dot
All that other man. I want to do stage plays. I don't give a. Yeah, all that.
Brian
I be low key in the city, doing stand up.
Dr. Dot
That's how you gotta do.
Brian
But I don't record it or make content. It's just like to help me with my stage process. Yeah, because we're gonna go on tour next year. So it's like, I want to be comfortable.
Dr. Dot
Is gonna be crazy.
Brian
My, that nerve wracking.
Dr. Dot
How many cities are doing, you know, yet?
Brian
They want us Southeast first, but they want us everywhere. Our analytics is crazy. So the Midwest for sure.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. That's super crazy out there.
Brian
California, Texas. We have feel that in California because yeah, it's one of them ones where it's like we gotta add shows the way it is in demand because like Atlanta, every time we drop in Atlanta, that sell out immediately. So it's like, I wanna. The New York show we got next week, it sold out. They were trying to book us for a second show, but I'm like, no.
Dr. Dot
I would have did it.
Brian
I don't. It's a message base, though. It's not music like you gotta sit.
Dr. Dot
That's true.
Brian
I. It ain't no set. It's a message. So it's like you don't want to dilute the message by just continually. You know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
Yeah, you kind of. And you make it. You get that FOMO going, you get money, scarcity marketing.
Brian
But. So me and you both, Tarantino, that's my I. With his feet fetish ass, right?
Dr. Dot
Yeah, his weird.
Brian
He a weird ass.
Dr. Dot
The word up says fetish feet fetish.
Brian
Yeah. Hey, look, one thing too. I don't never make excuse for white people, but when I was watching Django, I was like, this is how they talk, bro.
Dr. Dot
100% is how they talk. I was not offended. I was like.
Brian
I wasn't offended. I was like, this is actually what happened. This biblically accurate as, bro. You know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
My people came from slaves.
Brian
So I be like, I don't be shamed of that.
Dr. Dot
Y' all need to say that. Y' all need to see this. That's how I be feeling.
Brian
Like. Yeah, yeah. Cause my. My folks from Thomaston, Georgia, so. Okay, I know.
Dr. Dot
I know where that's.
Brian
I know where it keep going. I know the further back it goes, what it was looking like.
Dr. Dot
Oh, yeah, I got receipts, bro. I'll be telling people all the time. I got receipts from the last sharecroppers in my family. This is in the 60s. My mama gave us all receipts for.
Brian
Christmas.
Dr. Dot
To be like, no, where you come from. So that's what we got.
Brian
How you feeling about that year? You canceling Christmas with us?
Dr. Dot
Nah, I love Christmas.
Brian
Yeah, I love Christmas. Well, we got to cancel the corporation. That's really.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. I love. I love the Sitting down with the. With the kids type. Like, I love that.
Brian
Me too.
Dr. Dot
I love that people leave me alone during that time. That's my. That's my favorite part. It's like, yeah, yo. Yeah, it's Christmas, everybody.
Brian
You know what I'm saying? You could text me, say Happy Christmas. I mean, Merry Christmas.
Dr. Dot
The whole corporate. You know what I'm saying? Unfortunately, you know what I'm saying? It doesn't get more American than that. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it's that constant, constant thing what they say. Who said it. To be a black in America is to be in a constant rage.
Brian
Yeah. James Bow.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. Yeah, it's that thing.
Brian
So it's like, yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm like always gone. You know what I'm saying? Whatever the people on. I'm on, you know what I'm saying? So if we doing a blackout from the 25th to the second, I'm on, you know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
And I didn't even know about that. So it's a blackout. Is that what we doing? You're nothing.
Brian
Yeah, it's gonna be. Yeah. Cause it's gonna be Black Friday, Cyber Monday and all that shit. I don't fuck with it. No way. So it's like, okay, easy. But I think what people trying to do is like withdraw their dollar from corporations. And I. And my thing is, it's like, you can also help like prop up some more family owned, independently owned businesses. And at times, you know, it might not be as convenient, but convenience is a killer, bro.
Dr. Dot
It is, bro. Convenience is a cancer, bro.
Brian
Convenience is how you. Yeah, yeah. Cause fast food convenient. Yeah, that also we seen here. Was that called the big. What was. Was the. The. That was eating Big Macs every day. You remember his kids supersonic.
Dr. Dot
I saw, I saw, I saw a thing about that recently. He was like, oh yeah. Maybe that's why I saw an article because he was. He was talking about he was actually doing way more than McDonald's. I was like, yeah, it seemed like it because I mean, McDonald's make you get big. But that was fast.
Brian
Yeah, yeah, you put it on quick. What the thing is too, is like.
Dr. Dot
Where people just drinking a lot of time.
Brian
Of course you are. Every day. Of course you are. You know why? Because you addicted to sugar. And like alcohol is just. That's the same. It's like that. What don't really account for when it comes to fast food is the amount of sugar in that the bread is damn near all Sugar. I know they did something with Subway where it's like, it ain't even break because of how it's so much sugar in that it can't even be considered bread.
Dr. Dot
That's crazy.
Brian
Also, like, who. Who the evil villain ass that was like, that sawdust we're gonna make eat that a genius.
Dr. Dot
Unfortunately. Unfortunately, he's smart as. That's the worst thing about him, actually.
Brian
Yeah. Here's the worst thing. The. The too smart boy's all good.
Dr. Dot
Too smart for humanity.
Brian
This is the thing, too. We was just talking about that today. Like, the innovation that come out of Nazi Germany is crazy.
Dr. Dot
Oh, yeah.
Brian
You know what I'm saying? And it ain't.
Dr. Dot
It ain't going nowhere. It's. It's deeply in the DNA of society, you know?
Brian
Right.
Dr. Dot
All of. All Western society, at least. And really Eastern at this point. Yeah.
Brian
Eastern European, for sure.
Dr. Dot
I would say. Yeah.
Brian
Asians like them Asians. But they'll be innovating like a. The difference is. Okay, so tell me what you think about my theory on this. So my theory is the reason why America isn't progressive is because we're not a nation of nationality.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
It's because of.
Dr. Dot
Imagine these cultures work together.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
They move faster. That is what it is.
Brian
Because. Because when you do something for China, you're doing it for the Chinese.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
When you do something for America, it's like, damn, I'm doing it for. I don't know about that.
Dr. Dot
Exactly. And that's what it is. It's who you don't want to do it for. That slows everything down.
Brian
Exactly.
Dr. Dot
You over there, like I said, y' all should. Y' all need to travel. I was in Japan last year, and that was the first thing I noticed. I was like, damn. Everybody over here agrees. You know what I'm saying? Like, okay, it's no trash cans. Because everybody know, take your trash home. Like, it's not. No. Who like it. Like. You know what I'm saying? Aren't jaywalking over there. Because if you. Jay was like, what's your problem? Like, look at you. Like, what's wrong with you? You see these cars coming? Like, you know what I'm saying? Everybody on the train, quiet. That's bruh. Huh? They still. Yeah, yeah. But it's reasonable, too. I mean.
Brian
No, but shame, shame, shame. Shame. Shapes, though. You know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
It's because you don't want to be constantly shame.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. You don't want to be constantly shame.
Brian
Because that is humiliation really, at the end of the day, like here, if you're in Atlanta, a part of walking is crossing the street regardless of cars or not. Yeah, that'd be. That'd be a like, damn. You don't know how to cross the street. Cause in Atlanta, like, I'm crossing the street whether a car is coming or not. I don't got it timed out.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
Like, I'm damn near hip hop to bumper with this, bro.
Dr. Dot
We used to.
Brian
While it's going 55 an hour.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. We used to go down tape motor, bruh. I used those. Used to be like looking at niggas who was sitting there waiting like green ironing.
Brian
Yeah. It's like one of my favorite things about the city. And also, like, why I know this is just like out of control at the same time. Because it's like always these pockets of like, progress. Progress. But like, also who, like, value ignorance.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. And I feel like. I feel like every city got that.
Brian
I feel like I only care about this place.
Dr. Dot
I just only care about here. And I just feel like on the. On the scale of like the. The world, I would say, or maybe the Internet, it's just. It's just we are just the most looked at. You know what I'm saying? Just be watching this here because it's like, oh, look, this is what a.
Brian
Lot of things be on.
Dr. Dot
It's like, nah, bro. New York got doing crazy too.
Brian
New York is actually enhanced as exactly. And it's huge.
Dr. Dot
And it has no choice. You know what I'm saying? Paris be thinking Paris is like just one thing. You go over there, it'd be the same. You seen in New York.
Brian
It is, bro.
Dr. Dot
Same rats. Them you got hats on. It's like the same.
Brian
Sophisticated rats.
Dr. Dot
That's all the longest.
Brian
Yeah. He over there eating cheese and grapes, but over here eating pizza. That's just the difference. It's still cheese. My. My thing is too, is like from being a truck driver. After you travel this country enough, you just realize, like, the only thing really different between people is the accents. Because we all ultimately value the same shit. We all will agree with each other privately. Is just agreeing with each other publicly mean we don't point out the history of the country? Like, I think that's the biggest part is like, especially that's the.
Dr. Dot
That's the gap that's stopping is the history.
Brian
I think. I think the. The acknowledgement. Like. Like there needs to be. I think black people. Only thing we want really is to acknowledge the wrongdoing and repair. You know what I'M saying reparations is less about money and more about, like, damn, you can't just fuck a Nigga over for 400 years and then just be like, whoops, y' all straight. We good now, right? Y' all free? Like, no. As soon as y' all freed us, y' all put on black codes. So that's another. And then, yeah, Jim Crow, right In the war on drugs. That's another. Like, come on.
Dr. Dot
I would say reparations is. I agree with you there that, like, a lot of think, like, you know, who gonna get the checks. It's like, no, it's not that they should. It should just be, like.
Brian
It's a gesture of repair.
Dr. Dot
It should be.
Brian
And it should be taught, and it.
Dr. Dot
Should be, honestly, like, as far as, like, a show, a show of good faith, a project every. You know, I'm saying, like, a very intention project in all our communities type. If. If. And it's. It's gonna sound crazy. It sounds extreme saying shit like this, but, like, the government should have a thing that they do for. For black and brown communities, because you might as well just put everybody in it now. You know what I'm saying? But, like, they should be like, okay, look, we're gonna guarantee that all schools are up to this level of quality or something like that. You can guarantee street. You know what I'm saying? Just infrastructural things should be very, very.
Brian
It should be a given, bro.
Dr. Dot
Yes.
Brian
Because. Because the environmental racism is. I need this. I need this environment to reflect how I want people to think about you.
Dr. Dot
Yes.
Brian
And it's a lot. It's. It's a waste of time, bro.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
You know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
Like, I mean, it just slow everything down.
Brian
It slow everything down. And, like, a lot of people don't realize how much they hurt themselves by wanting to see other people hurt. But. But, like, the thing is, is, like.
Dr. Dot
It'S almost any instance, like, big or small, though. That's the crazy thing. Like.
Brian
Yeah. And that's why it's hard for niggas to be coalescing with us.
Dr. Dot
Even if, like, your hand gonna hurt a little bit. Like, if you really hit that nigga.
Brian
Yeah. If you really fall off on it, it don't matter if he fall. Something broke.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
You.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. You know what I'm saying something, bro?
Brian
Like.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
Yeah, I think. And that's a. That's a big problem. Why we have, like, problem with coalition. It's like, I don't want to coalesce with other minority Groups. If I know y' all have like a lot of anti blackness baiting into y' all culture too. And then it's like at the end of the day it's like you gonna want to be the part. But historically we have led the charge on all the civil rights and like put our lives on the line for this. The. The lack of acknowledgment of the is like where be like, you know what we ain't doing no more. It.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. And I feel like acknowledgment it gotta only come from a major action. Like you can't just. It can't just be like thank you.
Brian
No, it ain't no thank you. It's also like teach the full history truthfully. Yeah.
Dr. Dot
Teach the history truthfully. And then do a thing.
Brian
And then do something. Yeah, Repair.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, like repair physical thing.
Brian
Right.
Dr. Dot
I don't care if you start small and just make sure nowhere where black people live have potholes. They just. Let's just do stuff that is good faith. No school.
Brian
Have a shortage of books.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
Access to like food and. Yeah, no shit like that.
Dr. Dot
Like no more food. Desert access to. Yeah, I'm gonna say not just access to food. Access to good food.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
Access to some shit like, you know what I'm saying? Like I remember. So when I was in high school, they had this shit called the School for the Common Good, where some from my high school would be like selected to go spend a day every week at Westminster. And some. And then we would switch off every month. Some in Westminster come to Maze and just be just mortified for a day. But when we would go to Westminster, I was one of the guy. Cause I was a smart. So we would go to Westminster and I'd be in that, bro. Like if I felt like Rashad on atl, bro, I would just be like, bro, what the hell? What the hell going on up here, bro? Like, the cafeteria options cooked like it wasn't like some. The just heated up. You know what I'm saying? Like in my high school, the food just heated up for sure. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't nobody. Yeah, a little bit. But like a lot of this it was. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like.
Brian
But they cooking size more than anything.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, exactly.
Brian
Yeah. They just cooking like rice.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, yeah, some like that. But like you could they. You.
Brian
We.
Dr. Dot
You would see the trucks when if you got a. Like me, I'd be out there early for like some type of practice. You'll see the Trucks. And you be like, okay, well, yeah, that's. They go, l. You know?
Brian
Yeah, Cisco, like a.
Dr. Dot
Exactly, exactly. So like you go, I would go to private school. And I see that, like, literally one day a week, we do like two a month. And we go up there like on Wednesday and just like take some classes up there. I don't know who I did that program was. It's actually a sick ass program. But we be up there trading places. Yeah, trading places. Like, bro. Like, no, no. And we'll be out there and I'd be like, damn. Getting like chicken. These niggas baked chicken. This is real. Like, I'm like, damn. So like, yeah, food. Food is like the big one. I would say for all the kids, like, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? I pack my son lunch every day, but everybody can't do that. You know what I'm saying?
Brian
So, like, I don't even do that. Cause three kids like, well, see, only.
Dr. Dot
One of them got lunch. My other kid.
Brian
Yeah, baby. See, my baby, she like her lunch pack. And I don't argue with her about that. But the artist too, they be like.
Dr. Dot
Nah, it should be straight tripping no more.
Brian
They be like, man, this shit good.
Dr. Dot
I can't wait till my son like that right now. He be like that.
Brian
A lot of people will have an issue with that. Like, oh, do stuff for the black community or make sure the black community is this and that. And like, I think the thing is that people have to realize is like, if you intentionally destroy something, you have to be intentional about your repair. And I don't give a fuck what nobody else think about that. Right. Because my thing is this. Like, that's true. You got. You got places like, like Appalachia, right? You got white people there that's living poor than anybody else in this country.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
But they take pride in like that type of poverty. Like, they like, we live off the grid. We don't trust the government. We are really rednecks. Like, we are intentional about not integrating ourselves. They're going indy, bro. And it's like, there ain't nothing to repair. Yeah, this is a. But like, like the whole concept of the hood for is like, I gotta get out. So why am I born into a circumstance I want to escape from? They have to be intentional. Yeah, you did what I'm saying, that.
Dr. Dot
Is the big difference. I say, even with lighting, posting, like saying Appalachian, they're not trying to escape from that.
Brian
They with it.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. They're like, no, this is what I am. Bread and True. Blah, blah, blah.
Brian
And it's like, I'm a shiner.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
My granddaddy was a shiner. His granddaddy was a shot.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. So they proud of that. These want to be goddamn. We want. We want it. Hopefully. What you. What we always trying to do is like, better than our parents, better than our parents, better than. You know what I'm saying? And that's cool. And that's. Everybody should want that to a degree. But like, we be. It's a little more life and death.
Brian
But it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dr. Dot
If you don't do better, you know, everything might also too.
Brian
It's like, you think about the war on drugs. It's like, damn, man, my daddy smoked crack. Only thing I really gotta do to be better than him is not smoke crack.
Dr. Dot
Cause damn.
Brian
You see what I'm saying? And now you think about that on a large scale. How many daddies and mamas that's true for. And it's like celebration around just having a job. You did what I'm saying. I don't. When I was going to jail and shit all the time, bro, I had got a job driving a fort lift. And I'm like 22, 23 years old. And my auntie would be calling me like, I am so proud of you. I'm like, this is regular for these niggas, though. So like, damn, this shit gotta be. Y' all gotta take pride in a. Just making 12 an hour. And it's like, in the big scheme of things, I see why, but it's like, God damn, bro. The bar low.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, yeah. It just show where the bar at, bro.
Brian
The bar low. But it's also like, I didn't place the bar, though.
Dr. Dot
What would you like to see your kids be? Not that you like telling their future, but like, if you just was life.
Brian
I think for me is I would like. I would love for them to see success in life without having to be so visible.
Dr. Dot
That's like. I'm saying I'm the same way I want.
Brian
Because this level of visibility come with. And the thing is, I'm in the very beginning stages of it. I know it's gonna get crazy.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, yeah.
Brian
Cause we just went to eat and Shawty was like, oh, my God. She was like, we're gonna. She gave us an influencer discount. She was like, this just some shit we just made up. I was like, okay, fine, I'll take it.
Dr. Dot
I was like, that hard.
Brian
It wasn't $10 all the time, but I'll take the 10 you know what I'm saying? That 10 going into your tip.
Dr. Dot
I feel you. I want my kids to be successful, like in tech or like science. That's like my big thing.
Brian
Yeah. I want my. Yeah. I want them to have see academic success. Right. I think. But like, there's always a way of like when you coming out of poverty, it do come sometimes via sports and entertainment.
Dr. Dot
I mean. Yeah. You gotta make a splash, bro. Unfortunately, that's like the fastest way to do it. And we gotta do it the fastest way. Cause we predicted to live the longest.
Brian
Correct.
Dr. Dot
That's how we always feel like, ah, we gotta do it fast, bro.
Brian
Yeah. And I think for me it's like the big picture for me is like get my health all the way together. Like as far as like being intentional about every day, like feeling good, being mobile, being, you know, limber.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
You know what I'm saying? Like that I really care about. I don't need like, not for vanity, but for like endurance.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. Just for life.
Brian
Just for life. You know what I'm saying? And then for my kids, it's like even like with my son, when I was telling he want to produce, it's like get good at it first. And then I could like easily use my network of connections and make you a Nepo, baby. Yeah, I'm going nipple on there.
Dr. Dot
Better. It don't happen. It don't happen. Goddamn. 12, 12 generations for the. For them. For them folks, bro.
Brian
Yeah, we talking about was inheriting the whole people. So you know what I'm saying? What's more Nepo than that?
Dr. Dot
Exactly, bro.
Brian
Like I'm gonna die. This grown woman belongs to you.
Dr. Dot
This is your child. This is your woman.
Brian
Your six year old. This is your woman.
Dr. Dot
You do whatever you need to do.
Brian
She gonna call you ma' am. And she's 60. Crazy.
Dr. Dot
Crazy.
Brian
So I don't want to hear nothing about no Nepo. Especially not black nepotism. I want black people to be as nepotitic as possible. I don't even know there's a word.
Dr. Dot
Nepotitic.
Brian
Yeah. Be nepotitic. You hear me?
Dr. Dot
Nipple titty. You want to be the most you could be.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
I definitely want my kids, you know what I'm saying? I want them to be on the side of like having patents and like that.
Brian
Like I'm type.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, yeah. I'm not trying to.
Brian
My middle son want to go to mit. That like the proudest thing in the world to me.
Dr. Dot
Hell yet.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. My son recently has been like showing a big interest in like you know what I'm saying? What makes a computer be a computer?
Brian
And I'm like, okay, yeah, a little engineer.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, like, do that, bro. I ain't gonna tell you.
Brian
Stop.
Dr. Dot
But he just, he. I be like, yeah, you know, he. He started off. He's kind of like started doing it on his own. Like, I ain't. I wasn't doing that. You know what I'm saying? Just one day he just. I saw him tinkering.
Brian
What you think the biggest difference between how you were parented versus how you see yourself parenting?
Dr. Dot
Oh, that's a man. That's a good question, bro. Because I ain't gonna hold you, bro. My parents was. Well, one thing. My parents was younger when they had me. They was both like my dad. Well, actually my dad was in and out of college. My mom was finishing college, so they was younger, but that was normal. Also back then it was the early 90s, so that's just what it was. But also they. I say the biggest difference they was. They was low key, locked in the whole time. Like, my parents is a Zone 3 love story. Like they. They met, you know what I'm saying? Leela Valley and Thomasville, back when that was like, Lila Valley was still the project them met back then. And they stayed together through school and everything. So I was. I was gonna have. So they. Are they still together now? Like, they. They rock. So I think that's the biggest thing with me. I got, you know, so I gotta. Had a. A girl pregnant, and that's how I got my son. And then I got my wife today. So it's a little bit just different with the dynamic, you know what I'm saying? Of like, you know what I'm saying? He still got another place he go to and hear a whole different set of, like, rules and, like, ways to live by. And he come back to my house and like, me and my girl, like, nah, this is like, these are our pillars, you know what I'm saying? That's like the biggest difference is like trying to raise kids unified when there isn't always unity, you know what I'm saying? That just is what it is. I feel like that's something that also, like I say my parents reflection is. My parents marriage is super reflection of the time. Like, back then you didn't get divorced. Like, they thought about it a bunch of times, but. And they tried a couple times, but they just. At the end of the day, like, I've known this too long. That's how they always be. Like, I know this thing Too long, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? So they just be going, you know what I'm saying? You be sticking out now. They 60. They just turned 60.
Brian
So I'm like, oh, man.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
Congratulations, bro. Like, I hate to congratulate a nigga on, like, parents having great marriage, but, like, that is a big thing.
Dr. Dot
Stuck together, bro. They raised. They raised five boys, you know what I'm saying? All of us doing different shit. One of them passed my little cousins, my little brother Terrell. But for the most part, we all doing something, you know what I'm saying? My one brother, football coach. My other brother is. Goddamn, he the best of us. He was working for Google. Then he went to Bunch, and he said at the level, Bunch, he been, like, chasing, like, out of the he divorce. Like, I had to get out of.
Brian
This.
Dr. Dot
Work for Google. Then. Then now he working for a company that's, like, curing cancer. I'm like, he like, yeah, he the one.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
I'll be rapping, and I'll be, like, proud of myself. And I'm like, this actually the one. Like, he getting all the money. Like, that's my. That's my brother, too. So, like, my parents did their thing, you know what I'm saying? Like, they. They raised us in Chestnut Ridge for most of the time, you know what I'm saying? We seen. And they were just like, you know what I'm saying? Almost like how Kendrick folk was, like.
Brian
You got a unified front, right? It's important.
Dr. Dot
And that's the difference between what I've had for my son for a lot of his life. My oldest son, he. He seen, like, the worst, you know what I'm saying? Like, between me and. Me and his mom. So it's like seeing him. Seeing how that's kind of. Kind of person he is and how he, like, you know what I'm saying, responds to even seeing, like, a healthy relationship with my man. Now, I'd be like, yeah, no, this. I did this on purpose so you can see this. You know what I'm saying? I did this, so I did this. So y'.
Brian
All.
Dr. Dot
So you know it's possible.
Brian
Yo, man, I. I think that one of the most important things is, like, understanding, like, what. What kind of, like, intentional parenting you want to do, even if you fall short, right? Like, you gonna miss the mark on that shit a lot of times. But my. My folks, my mom and them had, like, that fly of the handle energy, you know what I'm saying? My pops was, like, real reserved and stoic. So it's like, damn, bro, you ain't gonna say shit, bro. She tripping. But then you kind of think, like, you get older, you like, oh, she was tripping. Cause she was mad at him. That why he ain't saying shit.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. You start to understand it. You start to get it.
Brian
Yeah, yeah. But I think for me, it's like with my kids, it's just like, now I'm trying to find that balance of, like, what to say yes, what to say no to. Because, I mean, yucky is.
Dr. Dot
You see 14s for real.
Brian
Yeah, well, not even. Not even in that sense. I'm talking about, like, just socially, too, because you. I mean, you got experience with this now. Like, this. Even though we kind of control our creativity and our expression and our output and it's paying our bills, you still, like, gotta travel to make it happen sometimes. And, like, how. How is that for you is like, you know, parenthood, where it's like, I'm on the. The way that we eat is I gotta be gone on tour.
Dr. Dot
That at first, obviously, wasn't that bad. My son's a baby. He ain't know nothing. It started hitting me when he started realizing. He started being like, so how long you gonna be gone this time? I'm like, how do you know how. How long time is? I'm like, what? Yeah, Tom exists. Like, it's like, damn, okay, well, yeah, I'm gonna be gone, you know, a couple weeks this time, gone a couple days this time. So once it started hitting like that, then now I'll be like, even. Like, now, like. Like, even today, bro. Literally, I was with the. We was outside, you know what I'm saying, playing football, whatever, and I'm like, I'm gonna go to work real quick. So I'm coming over here, like, whenever I'm going somewhere, do something, I'm going to work real quick and go to work real quick. He like, so how many days? I'm like, yo, I'm going. Literally, I'm be back tonight, bro. It was. It was difficult, and he has his difficulties, but also, you know what I'm saying? He gets it. And I brought him a couple places. Like, when I went to Japan, we had shown Japan last December, and I took him with me, and that changed that little life, bro. He was like, what? He's never been nowhere before, obviously, because he was seven at the time. And he was like, this is incredible. He's like, everything's so quiet. Like, everything's so, like, he's. It made me realize how loud Atlanta is because him just growing up in this city, he just think the world is this loud. And then we go over there. He's like that. He say all the time to leave me back there. Can we go back? Oh, I just missed the quiet. I was like, damn, I didn't even know you like quiet, bro.
Brian
Like, bruh, you can't like quiet here.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, exactly.
Brian
You know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
Like, it's a loud place.
Brian
I think one of the biggest things, when I moved to Alabama, that was like, six years ago. Six, seven years ago. But I was like, God damn, it's quiet as fuck.
Dr. Dot
I love that, bro.
Brian
Yeah, at first, I hated it like, that going on. It didn't feel like. It didn't feel, like, active. And so, like, you asked, bro, like, I was back here, like, every other week because I only stayed, like, an hour and 30 away. So I'm back here every other week. Like, let's go to the studio. Let's go do this. Because I was rapping and. And after a while, I was like, man, Atlanta, I'm gonna stay. Like, it's quiet here. It ain't no traffic. Like, if I look at my GPS and they say eight minutes, it's eight minutes. It's not 30. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's like, really eight. And then also, it's just very simple. Like, once I kind of got accustomed to that simple life, I was like, man, I see how, like, time just slow up. Like, you know, in the city, it feel like if you ain't doing, you ain't doing with your life. You ain't. You know what I'm saying? You ain't having no emotion. You having no paper. But I think moving out here, it's like when I started the podcast, I was like, all right, if I'm had this going, I can't do it in Alabama. It ain't going on out here. I need to be close to where the action is. But if I was, like, never gonna go that meteor route, and I didn't, and that wasn't panning out and I was just still driving trucks, I'd have never left Alabama.
Dr. Dot
You could even. I mean, the show getting big enough, you can really take it wherever you want, you know?
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
Two of my favorite who I've seen how they live. One on the Internet, one in real life. JCole. And who the. Who made the. What's the song?
Brian
Lenny Kravis.
Dr. Dot
Lenny Kravis.
Brian
Lindy Kravit. Living like Belize or something, bro.
Dr. Dot
Yes. That Compound that. Compound where he just living and out in nothing.
Brian
That's hard.
Dr. Dot
That's. That's what I want, bro. Dave Chappelle also live like that. Cole also live like that. Like Colby living like this. This is my land, sir. Like, this is. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't. I don't give a. About none of that shit. I pop out when I need to, but like, nigga, I'm my best when I can think. So it's like, nigga, it's that like I. With this.
Brian
That's why it's simple.
Dr. Dot
That's my ultimate goal, honestly, is. Is to one, do at least one really big arena tour and two, is to have more land than my ancestors could imagine. Like, I'm trying to have like, sprawling amount of land. I'm gonna go the straight farmer route, you know what I'm saying? My girl, she. She a professor. She could do that from anywhere. So we got down, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to lock in on that type time, bro. I don't give a.
Brian
About when you talk acres, though. You mean like, what, like 20, 50, 100?
Dr. Dot
I mean, boozy got 88. I'm trying to beat that. Yeah, that 88. I looked at his too, also. I really like how Boosie pulled that off. He bought it. He bought it a little bit at a time, which is. You know what I'm saying? That made sense too. But like, he got, like I said belay. See, he had 88 last time I saw, like, God damn. You know what I'm saying? That's.
Brian
I think.
Dr. Dot
I think I will not be able to see the end of it.
Brian
That part. Yeah, I think. Yeah. That's like long term for sure. Not even really long term, honestly. Like, soon as I get the right chick, it's like, need that. Give me that land and then we'll develop it over.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, but I say I'll develop it to all the stuff I need.
Brian
I'm gonna keep it real, though. I'm awesome. Like on some real like artsy fartsy. Like, like, I want to got down.
Dr. Dot
Cabin like a big heaven. Or like one of the more little ones where you go, right, like the Secret Window.
Brian
You seen the Secret Window with Johnny Depp? Well, he was the writer.
Dr. Dot
I've seen a lot of movies like this.
Brian
No, yeah, that what I'm saying.
Dr. Dot
Like, it's a common trope, but it's a trope.
Brian
But it's like, to me, I was like, that hard.
Dr. Dot
It is hard.
Brian
Yeah. Like you just go in town once a week, you got your dog, supposedly you got a gun.
Dr. Dot
It's like.
Brian
And then you just tight right locked in.
Dr. Dot
Sorry, I just. That's really the best way.
Brian
Oh man, life is just so rough. I just need to get away.
Dr. Dot
Anybody. That's why I with 3000 so much. I mean, I with all these who like get super immersed, you know?
Brian
Yeah, this like. Cause big boy got like owls and like I ain't never seen a have no owl before.
Dr. Dot
Like, keep black whimsy alive, bro.
Brian
Yeah, shout out my boy, man. Shout out my boy Admin Earth.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
You know what I'm saying? The. The king of the whimsy, you know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
Keep that alive, bro. We need more with just. You know what I'm saying? Willy Wonka ass lifestyles, bro.
Brian
Like, bro, that just fire, bro.
Dr. Dot
Deserve that, bro. We deserve that on so many levels. But we deserve the absolute display of free will that was not afforded to us generations past. Do what the you want.
Brian
I'm telling. I already know what this gonna be like, bro. It's like 10 years. All this land, I'm gonna have a warehouse made of glass. It's gonna be climate controlled and it's gonna be like a creative compound.
Dr. Dot
Sounds like it's gonna get. Am I saying most. Because it's gonna be.
Brian
That's why the box. But why do we get the money? No, but I'm definitely talking. I'm definitely like hit a button. Yeah, close that off. You know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
Feel perfect.
Brian
Yeah, it gotta feel good in that at all times. I don't want to go greenhouse. I also don't think I want glass ceiling because it's like, that's just sunlight. The red. It ain't no climate you can control in that moment.
Dr. Dot
Had a little, you know.
Brian
Well, you can open it up. Yeah.
Dr. Dot
Auto. I'm trying to go bunker. I'm trying to go you underground with it bunker, bro. I'm trying to have the most luxurious version of a bunker bunker. Yeah, that a person can have. I mean, you're never gonna be like Zuckerberg's bunker, which is supposed to be like carved into a mountain or some.
Brian
Like that, but like insanity also. Like why you got all that money? Also like do be doing evil. Like the thing is, is like when you go super villain into the side of a mountain, it's because you're doing super villain, like stealing data.
Dr. Dot
Stealing data, making humans fight, hunting for.
Brian
Sport, like all type of wild.
Dr. Dot
You know what I'm Saying fight club.
Brian
Yeah, yeah.
Dr. Dot
Very, very, like, eyes wide shit.
Brian
Very eyes wise. Very, like, I'm gonna create a. AI like, generated stereotype racism, and I'm flooding the whole out with this. Just AI generated racism. You know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
That actually, honestly, I hate to. I hate to be kind of, you know, cynical or callous, but that funny as to me, bro, that's the, the. The bots. When I begin on Twitter, I say, and then like, a random ass bottle be like, yeah. Cause you like watermelon. Like, he's no profile picture. Just a. Just saying some, Some. Okay, this actually is hilarious because, like, why is this. Y' all are that racist? Like, y' all just like, bruh, training.
Brian
A robot to be racist is like, oh, no, you just like, you too far in the rabbit hole of racist.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, like, you care way too.
Brian
Yeah, you care way more than I ever will. The only thing I like to do is point out racism. I don't like to actively engage. I'm not thinking about white people like that.
Dr. Dot
Do you think you have any racist beliefs?
Brian
Probably. As far as.
Dr. Dot
I don't know. I, I. It's so funny because I, I think that sometimes by myself, like, I'm probably racist, but, like, I don't know what I hate. Just off break. You know what I'm saying?
Brian
Yeah. Just not out right out the rip. I really just. My son hate the treatment.
Dr. Dot
Yes.
Brian
And then it's like, in contrast, you hate me. You got all these flaws too. So I'm a point. I'm gonna hold that mirror. But like, every day, walking around, just.
Dr. Dot
Like, belief system, I'm popping that off.
Brian
Like, just like, I couldn't start no clan. I'm gonna say that because it's like, I don't give a. So, like, after, like, two meetings, we're gonna be like, bro, this shit really kind of lame.
Dr. Dot
I'm gonna forget the first meeting, bro. I'll text this like, yo, black clan meeting in my house tonight, and not show up.
Brian
After the second meeting, I'm just gonna be like, let's play something spades, bro. Like, really? I got all my out last me. I don't want to go do nothing to them.
Dr. Dot
It would just turn to a support group, man.
Brian
And then I got five.
Dr. Dot
He just talks in a circle.
Brian
Boss called me a nigga. I started drinking bad. Really? I'm an alcoholic. Exactly.
Dr. Dot
It just turned to a whole different group.
Brian
Yeah, cuz. It's like, I don't got. I ain't that miserable, bro. Yeah, that's something Like, I got life and shit. Like, I'm looking forward to, like, I love my life, bro. I love my children, bro. I love my friends. I love what I do. I don't got time to be really mad at nobody.
Dr. Dot
But I think it don't even feel good to do. Like, why would I waste my time being mad?
Brian
I'm not. Yeah. But I think, you know, the social awareness that I have in, like, the way I care about our community is just like a commandment for me. Like, you better be vigilant about the shit that going on in the world and be aware, you know what I'm saying? But I'm not going to stay in like a fugue state of racism or like anger. It's like, you know, I have an outlet for my frustrations. I'm a. I'm a use my outlet. But at the same time, my everyday walking life, I care more about loving on black people than hating white people.
Dr. Dot
I feel that that's where I be at, bro. Like, and I see I don't know a lot of niggas who hate. Who just hate white people, like, for real, for. I don't know a lot of them, but I know, I know a lot more who care about, like, making us better.
Brian
That's what, that's my whole thing. And I think that that's like, because in this society, like, white people caring about the white community mean hating other communities, that naturally the projection is gonna.
Dr. Dot
Be that that's a super false equivalent. But they do believe that.
Brian
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's a false equivalence because. But it's a projection of it. Because for them it's like, well, if you care about your community, it must be rooted in hate. For me, it's like, I ain't you, brother.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Even feeling like that, I don't even.
Brian
Really much give a about you. I don't think about you.
Dr. Dot
I hope you're good. Cause when you're not, everybody gets shot.
Brian
You know what I'm saying? I can just kill each other in the streets. If two people kill each other in the street, I can almost guarantee you this got something to do with some money or an extreme amount of disrespect or something that somebody done let go on way too long where they like, you know what that I'm gonna kill that. You know what I'm saying? But I can never justify shooting up a church of strangers. That shit crazy.
Dr. Dot
Shit crazy, bro.
Brian
Yeah, it's psychopathy. But my Thing for me is, like, now I do keep a good slur in my tuck, though, for all other groups.
Dr. Dot
See, I'm unfortunately. I love a good slur.
Brian
I love a slur. Hey, man, I love a slur. I love a slur. You know what I'm saying? It got a good ring to it.
Dr. Dot
I like words I want to say. Yeah, it's really. It's really just more of a word thing.
Brian
Like, it's a word thing.
Dr. Dot
I like slurs. I like palindromes, you know?
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
I like a lot of different.
Brian
I'm a big fan of alliteration and on the monopia. You know what I'm saying? I like all this. I just like literary devices.
Dr. Dot
Exactly.
Brian
If you say something to me crazy, I know all the slurs, I'mma hit you with one. I got in trouble for it, but it is what it is. They got over it.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
You know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
But I feel like I call nobody a slur. Well, no, I've called. I'll see a crack.
Brian
I called somebody a slur on Twitter because he called me a nigga.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
And I was like, oh, this is not fair. We're not gonna slur for slur. It's cool when they do it.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. And sometimes I boo.
Brian
Boo. You niggas are sore losers.
Dr. Dot
What did you say? Cause I feel like cracking. Don't really affect me.
Brian
No, I call her misconduct nigga. I call him a beaner.
Dr. Dot
Oh, that's. That's.
Brian
Woo.
Dr. Dot
You took it there.
Brian
Oh, they had me all over. Everywhere. Like, deontay. Kyle says beaner. I was like, I mean, come on. But y' all not gonna take the part where he called me a nigga. Yeah, I don't care if he said it with an A.
Dr. Dot
Exactly.
Brian
He said it. He shouldn't have said it.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, cuz, if I say. If I say that with an A. If I said, that's so crazy. I didn't know that was a slur until I dated a Mexican girl. And she was like, yeah, this. I went to a bar and this lady called us beaners. I was like, what? What is that? She was like, it's a slur. You're not supposed to say that. I didn't even know about that, bro.
Brian
You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not in my everyday vocabulary, but, like, as a. As a way. As an equivalent measure. You hurt me with words, I'm gonna hurt you. A word that's equivalent measure.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
I thought we were square, but it is what it is. I also think that this was in a time where everybody was like, really loving on me and so, like, was just looking for something to try to tear me down. It ain't work.
Dr. Dot
But that's gonna always happen too, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, the more of those you survive, the more big, you know, the bigger you get.
Brian
Yeah. It is what it is. I mean, Mexicans love saying.
Dr. Dot
They do. They do.
Brian
I don't know why, but they do love it.
Dr. Dot
I know why. I know why everybody loves saying it bro. Cause it's just phonetically fun to say bro.
Brian
Like, it's a great. It's a great word.
Dr. Dot
I'm gonna say that if it's in so many, what places of the conversation. It. It can. If you so many emotions can be used for that.
Brian
It's. It's a. It's an all encompassing now, bro.
Dr. Dot
It's one of. It's one of the best words.
Brian
It is. Honestly, I. I'm glad we put the A on it. You know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
How we use it. But I will say this amongst friends and, and. And close company. I will hit one of my close friends with a hard R, you know what I'm saying? Just because it's hilarious.
Dr. Dot
He know how I be, bro. On tour, if niggas is on shit, then I'm like, oh, hard R. I'm hard R'd, bro. What?
Brian
Because sometimes. Because sometimes it's like.
Dr. Dot
Just sometimes it's warranted.
Brian
It's one sometimes like, bro, you on hard R activity right now.
Dr. Dot
Yes.
Brian
Yeah. And also like, that is like the way that I look at cooning. Like, if you a coon, you a hard artery.
Dr. Dot
You ever been called a coon?
Brian
No.
Dr. Dot
I got caught a coon one time. I was.
Brian
I've been called. I've been called.
Dr. Dot
Well, I got caught soon. Twice, actually.
Brian
I've been. I've panderer because I love and support black women. And. Yeah, they can always say that though. Also maybe. No, never. Coon, though. Never. Cool. I know.
Dr. Dot
Every time.
Brian
Oh.
Dr. Dot
Let me say them quickly. One, I was in Tennessee and literally two white guys called me a coon. They said I was the ugliest coon they ever seen.
Brian
That's crazy.
Dr. Dot
Damn. I don't know. They definitely wanted to fight. And the lady told me to leave before I was at a bar. And the lady was like, you probably should go. And I was like, what? I'm chilling. I was being super green. I was like, well, I'm chilling, bruh. And she Was like, okay. And then, goddamn, they called me a coon and a nigger as I walked out the door. The second time we did some little for Kamala Harris and some black people.
Brian
Call me a coon.
Dr. Dot
I've been called coon on both sides.
Brian
You've experienced the coon spectrum.
Dr. Dot
I was in eighth grade. I did a. I did. Oh, no. Ninth grade, I got selected to do a conference. I was. I did a lot of like, speech competitions, and that's how I got scholarships. And I did speech competition. And then one of the competitions, I started talking kind of loud, giving my speech, and N was like, oh, he a coon. And I was like, damn. I just thought I was being emphatic, bro. I thought I was.
Brian
I thought I was being.
Dr. Dot
Trying to get a scholarship, nigga. I thought I was being passionate.
Brian
But they like, look at you trying to sell yourself to the white people.
Dr. Dot
That's what niggas was.
Brian
Coon ass nigga.
Dr. Dot
Damn, bro.
Brian
Like, you know, the thing is, the kun is a slippery slope. I think if it's like, if you're not radically pro black or you a little bit more compromising in some of your stances, then of course the radical pro black people gonna be like, this nigga's a coon. But I think sometimes the things we call a coon is just a nigga being reasonable given the circumstances.
Dr. Dot
It definitely was on the.
Brian
It don't have to be on the.
Dr. Dot
Friday when the niggas was like, get off my grass. That nigga wasn't tripping, bro. We caught that nigga coon.
Brian
Yeah, but it's like, this is my yard, bro. Like, I'm putting down time and care and effort into maintain this lawn amongst this savagery, bro. And then you got breaking in my houses and, like, I just want you stay on my grass.
Dr. Dot
That's all, bro.
Brian
Like, that's not too much to ask for, bro. Actually, you are just disrespectful, you know what I'm saying? But I think for me, yeah, you know, I think some of my politics is like, very left leaning. So of course, like, I remember one time caught me, like, and he said he's bought and paid for by the dnc. I was like, I wish. Do you think I'd be potting food as soon as that Lockheed Martin check clear, I'm done with you. You know what I'm saying? Now, Now I'm gonna have a whole podcast about the war machine, brother. You know what I'm saying? And how to give Middle Eastern countries American freedom Yeah.
Dr. Dot
You just turned that off.
Brian
Yeah, I'm trying to get that oil, bro. You know what I'm saying? Trying to get that oil. But it's like, jokingly. But it's just like, bro, I don't actually trust the government at all. So how can you call me paid for by anybody? I don't even with these.
Dr. Dot
But that. That's just what happens when it's more visibility, bro. People gotta doubt it. They gotta doubt the reason behind the visibility.
Brian
Yeah. You know, I was having a conversation with somebody that's also in the creator space, and they was like, saying how, you know, they was like, well, sometimes I am very like this and like that. And like, sometimes I do, like, tailor my message towards my audience. I was like, I just be saying how I feel. How about to say, bro, I was like, oh, okay. Y' all just not used to showing up and being themselves. So it's like, we don't know what they look like. So it have to be something because at the end of the day, somebody a lot of are performative and doing.
Dr. Dot
But it's like everybody else.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
They selling, like, a set of emotions as their product.
Brian
Yeah, see, like, man, listen, bro, And I, you know, I tell my. To my. To my girl, this. Like, when you thinking, like, this whole long thought out, manipulative process, it's like, you give me way too much credit, baby. I don't even think that far ahead, man. I be forgetting Preach.
Dr. Dot
Cause I definitely don't be.
Brian
I promise you. Like, I'm not this methodical about making you mad. I just up, for real. Like, it wasn't that much to it, man list, like, but also, I think for. For, like, girls, it's like there has to be something more. It's like, that's just you.
Dr. Dot
That's how they be in their friendships too, though. And not the. Not the.
Brian
No, I love women, but no, they be.
Dr. Dot
They be.
Brian
They be poking.
Dr. Dot
Yes. Their friendship just have a lot more layers, which, honestly is. Is a. It's a beautiful thing I'm gonna say. It's more of a. Of a. Of a shine on their complexity. And they can pull that off because me and my friendships be like, bro, you in the game. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Brian
Yeah, bro. Like. Like, I got people that I call friends. I don't even know their mama name, bro.
Dr. Dot
Oh, God, bro. I got half the niggas I played on PlayStation with, I invited to my wedding, bruh. I do be on the game with y' all niggas all the Time get married.
Brian
I think there's a beauty in, like, the simplicity of male friendships, and. Which is why, like. Which breeds longevity also, like, niggas is super simple. It's like, I'm not offended that you ain't think to ask. Cause I ain't think to ask straight up, bro. You know what I'm saying? But I think, well, girl, my nigga.
Dr. Dot
Tell me happy birthday six months later. I appreciate that. You know that shit bad, but, you know it's all love and explain.
Brian
It's love, bro.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. You thought to say that shit.
Brian
It's like, it hit you out the blue. Like, damn, bro, my bad. Happy birthday. It's like, that's thoughtful.
Dr. Dot
That's thoughtful. Yeah, that was. That's how I was a man. I'm saying, like, damn, that's thoughtful. That's so funny. I be having this conversation with my girl. Cause she be telling me about her friendships with her girls and shit. And I be like, you know, it could be easier. She be like, yeah, that's because y'.
Brian
All don't have a standard. I was like, y' all let anything fly.
Dr. Dot
Exactly.
Brian
You don't hold your friends accountable. It's like, I do, but it's like, it ain't dramatic at it.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, yeah. Because if a do some lame, I'm.
Brian
Be like, hey, bro, like, straight so pe game. Like, I was out with one of my homies one time, and he was a little drunk, and he was in this girl face, and I could tell that she was annoyed by him. And I was like, bro. I was like, bro, you want to go smoke? He's like, yeah, hell yeah. And so I pulled him away from the crowd. I was like, hey, stop being weird with the girls, bro. You being weird. You're making uncomfortable. I was like, shan interested. Just let that be. And he was like, for real, bro.
Dr. Dot
Some have to be told that.
Brian
He was like. He was like, brian, I ain't even peeped that. I was like, yeah, bro. Like, came to vibe. Everybody came to have a good time. She didn't come to be harassed by you, brother. Like, she not interested. Move the on. And also, you drunk. Drink some water and cool out, bro. Like, play the back.
Dr. Dot
Play the back.
Brian
And then we. And then it's like, if you want to fight the blunt, though, we can. But, like, I ain't even come out here to smoke. I just not going. And really, I'm not going to embarrass you because niggas got ego. So it's like, the second you feel played, you Going to take it to the next level.
Dr. Dot
Exactly. But also, you know, as. As your dog. I'm telling you this because I don't want you getting embarrassed.
Brian
I don't want to. Yeah. Because if she go up top with you real quick, bro, and I'm not like, I can't defend you. This a woman. I got to tell you to cool out, and you gonna feel played already. So then it's a whole lot of things. It's just like. It's just ways to do that. And it's also, like, ain't holding no grudge on that. Like a Be like, you was all right.
Dr. Dot
I appreciate that, bro.
Brian
Man, that's real, bro. You're a real bro. You put me to the side, bro. You're like, man, most try. They gotta talk about that. Ain't never happened. Most try to embarrass you, bro. You don't know that for no fact.
Dr. Dot
You don't never.
Brian
That's never happened to you. It's like a nigga just can't believe. Like, damn, bro, I'm being lying right now. But it's like, we all possess these qualities, right? Like, I don't tell nobody. Like. Like, the thing is. Is, like, you ever seen a movie? Get him to the Greek.
Dr. Dot
Yes.
Brian
You remember when he was like, I'm not saying I'm the savior. Like, that's for other people to say, but I am the savior. That's like, how I feel about real nigga. Like, I'm not gonna say I'm no real nigga. Somebody think I'm a fuck nigga. Yes. But, like, I ain't gonna deny if another, like, he a real.
Dr. Dot
Like, you damn right.
Brian
You heard it, man. Hey, hey. Raised by some real ones. Yeah, I think that's just like, a whole complexity of it, too. It's like, you out of here, white man. All right. Be easy, bro. All right. Hold it down. You said my boy. He got a whole cassette.
Dr. Dot
That's just hard.
Brian
Gangster. I with it. I like everything about it.
Dr. Dot
Very artsy.
Brian
Very artsy.
Dr. Dot
That's what we need more of that. The culture I love. I love when New York be saying culture, bro. I hate it because it's like, also, I love this.
Brian
What's your favorite city?
Dr. Dot
My favorite city outside of Atlanta. Atlanta, of course, in the world. I gotta say Joburg. South Africa.
Brian
Tight. Cause, man, I never been out of country.
Dr. Dot
Oh, man.
Brian
Next year, though, for sure.
Dr. Dot
Where you going? Where you going first? First. Where you want to go first and where you going first?
Brian
Three places I want to go Is Ghana Tokyo, Jamaica, Tokyo, and Belize.
Dr. Dot
Tokyo, you're gonna want to stay forever. So go there last because you. You want to stay, bro. When I was in Tokyo, bro, I was like, man, I quit smoking. I never had a thought. Weed. I feel good as hell over here.
Brian
Bro.
Dr. Dot
So peaceful, bro. Like, actually, bro, I'm gonna come up and like, bro, waking up early as old people exercising in the park together. Oh, this is just like. This is how. This is how life's supposed to be.
Brian
Yeah, they just got it figured out.
Dr. Dot
So figured out. South Africa. Bad as hoes in my life I've ever seen. I wasn't even out there going crazy because I just was just out there enamored, bro. I was just like, damn, these women are gorgeous, bro. Like, some of the baddest women you going to look at ever. You just going to be like, what, you just work here? You not like nothing. You're not like a thing. Like, over here, you. In America, you would be like, 500 up.
Brian
Like, yeah, you'll be making like. You're making like, 300k a year as a bottle girl.
Dr. Dot
Exactly, bro. What? You just don't. You just. You work at. You just chilling over here, like, what, at the gas station? You gorgeous, right?
Brian
Like, see, this is how American get got, though, because be like, I wife, you, I'll take.
Dr. Dot
But that's what. Honestly, that's what be doing. And that's why they get, you know, saying labeled his passport bros and all that. I'm not a passport, bro. But if you want to be that, be that, bro. Like, I'm like, hey, man, well, a.
Brian
Passport boy, is really just sex tourism.
Dr. Dot
Okay. Yeah, if you on there, just. Just purchasing.
Brian
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dr. Dot
Okay.
Brian
Yeah, like, Password, bro, is really just like, you go abroad to buy.
Dr. Dot
Oh, okay. I thought it was go. Go abroad to, like, fall for something.
Brian
No, no, no, no. That's just international love.
Dr. Dot
How about I say, cuz, if you fall in love.
Brian
Because why was they going for the.
Dr. Dot
For the cheap. I knew cheap.
Brian
You know what I'm saying? $20.
Dr. Dot
Greatest, amazing.
Brian
Best I ever had. Amazing, Superior.
Dr. Dot
Columbia. You got to go down. You got to go down there. All right.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
I'm gonna have to tell you after Mic.
Brian
I'm gonna call you. I'm gonna call you with some. For some recommendations.
Dr. Dot
Colombia.
Brian
Yeah, I'm.
Dr. Dot
I'm. I'm in with some folks down there, bro.
Brian
You have a. I ain't gonna lie, man. I'm gonna say this because y' all know me, and y' all know my History. When I go to South America, I'm doing some cocaine.
Dr. Dot
Greatest cocaine.
Brian
Greatest cocaine.
Dr. Dot
I'm talking about. I'm talking about.
Brian
I'm just letting y' all know. Y' all know my history. I'm not ashamed of who I am. I've been clean for a long time. But I'm telling you, it's like. It's like.
Dr. Dot
I'm be honest with you, bro.
Brian
It's like going to Tokyo and not eating sushi. Like, what the.
Dr. Dot
I'm being honest with you. It's so good. It's.
Brian
I love this, bro. This he is me and I am him. How old are you?
Dr. Dot
I just turned 35.
Brian
Oh, I'm 35. Me too. When your birthday?
Dr. Dot
October 25th.
Brian
Mine? July 4th.
Dr. Dot
You a cancer?
Brian
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cat that make you. Oh, yeah.
Dr. Dot
Twin water science, Big water energy, Wavy boys.
Brian
Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of cocaine.
Dr. Dot
But, yeah, bro, I was over there. I was. I remember first time I somewhere, I was like, bro, this got to be off a caterpillar back. This is so pure, bro. I was like. I was like, this is. And then we got the mic. I tell you who's with they. We was. It was the best. And it was cheap, and it was like. It was no nothing I had to worry about. No, I ain't have to worry about. It was like. It was like the coke they. That they put in Coca Cola back when they first made.
Brian
It's like. It's like eating a coconut off a tree.
Dr. Dot
Yes.
Brian
It ain't been touched.
Dr. Dot
And it wasn't no crash. It wasn't no. Like, I didn't feel like, I didn't feel none of that. I didn't feel cocaine, sir. Like, it was no. It was no after effects. I slept well, sound like, but I just had a good time.
Brian
And then I think that's the biggest thing for me is, like, as I've gotten older, it's like you just do things on occasion, and then you keep pushing with your life. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
Nothing. Like, I literally, like most only I'm gonna do too is making music now that I be. That gives me a high that nothing could ever give me. So I'm gonna do that.
Brian
I'm suffering with, like, one addiction right now. It's like Red Bull watermelon. And I don't even gotta have it every day. It's just like my favorite.
Dr. Dot
I got two empty Celsiuses in my car from today.
Brian
That's my thing, though. It's like, I'm gonna Keep it a big though. I'm gonna tell you what it is. It's not the energy. It is the energy because that's what I'm putting in my body. It's not the caffeine. I literally just like how Red Bull tastes.
Dr. Dot
That's different because most people don't. I don't like where I.
Brian
It's a lot. That's why Sonic had a whole brother drink with that. I love how that tastes a lot.
Dr. Dot
It's so crazy.
Brian
I don't know what it is.
Dr. Dot
Y' all ever seen the little. It's like a little. Like a little YouTube documentary on. On the original recipe of Red Bull. Basically, bro. Like, this is some dude who's like. He worked for, like, marketing in a lot of, like, drink companies before he lost his job. He, like, 50 something years old. He goes to Thailand and just has somebody gave him some at, like, a little, like, look market he was at in Thailand. He's like, damn, I'm f to take this and, like, run with it. But a lot of.
Brian
Was he white?
Dr. Dot
You already know, but.
Brian
But damn it. They can't help them.
Dr. Dot
They can't help theyself. They can't help themselves. So he brought it back here. And at first.
Brian
You know what? At some point, you just gotta love them.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. Because it's like, you can't help. They don't do that. And you gotta think. I mean, if you. If you came from caves, that's what you got.
Brian
I mean, they come from scarcity. So it's like it's embedded. Like, I have to steal.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
Yes. Yeah. Rebrand the real. Not reinventing it, but they rebrand. It's not a wheel, it's a weed.
Dr. Dot
He was saying when he first. Nobody wanted it because the flavor was so bad, but he was like, they will. And now I'm listening to you talk about how that.
Brian
Oh, no, this had a prophecy. My. I'm telling you, he's a prophet. Because that is amazing, bro.
Dr. Dot
That's crazy. It is.
Brian
It's based on, like, ginseng and, like.
Dr. Dot
That concoction they had going out there. And he. My brother back. And then he.
Brian
And they came.
Dr. Dot
It wasn't carbonated at first, and then he. Carbonated.
Brian
No, he did it. Big one with the carbonation. I'm not gonna lie. He went so crazy when he did that. He took that north. Because I'm telling you, I kombucha.
Dr. Dot
Kombucha.
Brian
Not really, but I don't even know. I'm gonna keep it a beano. I Don't even know what they did for real. Like, I know what it is. I just. I had a little sip of one, I was like, this is disgusting.
Dr. Dot
It's pretty gross. But now that's something that I like better than Red Bull crazy.
Brian
See, and that's another thing too, is that acquired taste. Like, I ain't like beer when I first drank it.
Dr. Dot
I don't like beer.
Brian
A Chris, A Chris, a cold beer, man. That'll change our day. You know what I'm saying? I don't drink beer. Yeah, see this thing too about like when you just hang out in the hood, like, ain't just buying bottles because it. It's more cost effective to buy a big ass case of beer because it's eight out here drinking them. So it just makes sense. You want some King of the hill, but like, after a while, you bro, I hate beer because it's like I'm drinking with D every day. This loser. Like, we just out here like, I got a lawn chair, no lawn on the concrete. Like, I'm a loser. But I also like sell drugs every day. So it's like I just ain't got nothing better to do but stand on the shade tree and drink beer and sell drugs. But after you get past that, it's like beer just shade tree.
Dr. Dot
Some real Georgia too, bro. I ain't gonna hold you, bro. We used to have a shade tree that was. That was outside of Maze, that was every know new to go there after school.
Brian
It's just a play. It's just a play, you know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
Earth Game, Loki. We would be freestyling on the shade tree. And then was like, all right, bro, maybe we should get there and do some shows. He started doing Crucial. It was out of here. We was doing Crucial.
Brian
You went crazy.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, saving up. We would call GR Street. We had got that number. We annoy the out there, bro. He like, it's these two kids, bro. They always calling me bro. And then we would pull up on that gr. Bro. They do this from the Shade Tree to Crucials.
Brian
Is that when you felt like when you started doing shows in Crucial, you was like, this is what I'm gonna do the rest of my life.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. And you know how I knew? Because I'll say the first 15 times we did Crucial was hating that. Like, they ain't with it at all. And I didn't give a. I'm like, whatever.
Brian
I love this.
Dr. Dot
And we young into him like, so 17, 18, bro. Like literally making music with all type of Radical ass. Like, I'm like, ah, ah. You know what I'm saying? Like, it wasn't really. It was more rapping than hook. It was just like, I'm just like, I just want to get on stage and kill this. Like, yeah. And would be like, boo Tom at the time. And I was like, nigga, I remember.
Brian
One time I performed in Queen City and I. And like, the song was super woke. The song was called all for the Money.
Dr. Dot
Oh, yeah. They was using that blowing n high.
Brian
N is like, man. And the bitch, the bitch right here stripping next to me. I was like, a nigga kill his own brother off of the money. N like, man, get in.
Dr. Dot
Fuck nigga off the stage, bro.
Brian
I'm in here pimping, bro. This nigga fucking the vibe, boy. And then I got off stage, got me a $5 loud dance. Yes, sir. That bitch left a stain on my jeans. I was like, we gotta get up out of here. It's Queen City. Just a little Atlanta lure. Right under the bridge.
Dr. Dot
Right under the bridge. But I'm five out dancing, bro. I took my partner there when he turned 22 or something like that. It's my most virgin homie. And I was like, hey, man, I'm just tired of you being such a virgin.
Brian
It's starting to affect your brain. I don't want you to be no incel.
Dr. Dot
It's getting weird.
Brian
You ain't getting no pussy.
Dr. Dot
Start turning to an incel. Some like, we got to get this out the house. We got to get this. He like a super like music prodigy. I've always known, like, we gotta get this.
Brian
See, that's what used to do for each other, man. We used to be like, you know what? I'mma buy you some, bro.
Dr. Dot
And I ain't even buying no, because it's cuz.
Brian
It's like cuz. Cuz without it. Cuz without it, you going to start acting weird.
Dr. Dot
Going to start getting weird, bro.
Brian
You know what I'm saying? You ain't following biology. You hacking.
Dr. Dot
Exactly. You hacking, but you're not a hack.
Brian
You hacking. You ain't no hacker.
Dr. Dot
You're hacking, but you are not a hacker.
Brian
No, listen, you hacking. You hacking your biology, right? Now your body want to.
Dr. Dot
And now you. And now you quote, unquote, hate women, but you ain't.
Brian
And this doing something to your mind. Exactly.
Dr. Dot
Now you think you hate something that you.
Brian
And now, now it's manifested in mass on the Internet. And it's just like, man, bro, do you know how much some coochie would just solve 80 of the problems of these online, bro.
Dr. Dot
I mean, honestly. Honestly, bro. Like, honestly, man.
Brian
Power of the pussy, man. Is powerful, bro. Bro, why do you think I'm cool, bro?
Dr. Dot
Yeah, niggas needs a coochie, bro.
Brian
Like, I'm not cool and level headed because this, because, man, my ball is empty, man.
Dr. Dot
Think about this.
Brian
I'm cool, bro. Like I'm scrape what I'm stressing. Why? Why I hate why hate why I hate the thing I love.
Dr. Dot
They say, they say not going to sleep is like. Like if you're gonna go sleep for two nights, it's like six nights of drinking. Like your mind is there.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
If you're not busting nuts, you're not going to sleep. Is crazy. Niggas is sleep deprived. Like is really goddamn like not goddamn like the coochie make you sleep, bro.
Brian
It's going to put you to bed.
Dr. Dot
Exactly, bro. To sleep.
Brian
It's nature's melatonin.
Dr. Dot
All incels need to go to sleep.
Brian
You feel them because you got to think. It's a lot of blue light radiation.
Dr. Dot
Yes. You just awake. You just awake.
Brian
You fry, bro.
Dr. Dot
And then also when be having like mental breakdown and them don't be going to sleep, you go to sleep.
Brian
Just go to sleep, bro. And also like all that masturbating, bro. You know what I'm saying? It just ain't it. It don't hit the sign.
Dr. Dot
It ain't. You ain't sleeping.
Brian
You know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
Wake up and do that again.
Brian
You're not real.
Dr. Dot
You're not here. You're not here. Yeah.
Brian
You know what I'm saying, bro?
Dr. Dot
You might take a.
Brian
A nice little sesh don't put you to bed for real.
Dr. Dot
And that's with every animal.
Brian
And that's the way God intended it, bro. It's not. We not saying nothing crazy. This is the way God intended this.
Dr. Dot
Literally. Lions are doing it right now.
Brian
Go look at the line. Gorillas go look at the line. A depressed line. Ain't, ain't. Listen, the women, the women in the line in the pride is decided this we not passing these genetics on. And that is happening to you in mass. And that's why you're losing your mind. You're not good for the pride.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, but then what's going.
Brian
But you still have opinions and that's the part.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. What's gonna happen to that? Like I want to see. I want to get killed. Yeah, I know.
Brian
Yeah. But, but, but, but, but, but in America they get paid.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
Because there's no reason why I should know who the Ben Shapiro is. I, I, I really Cartoon villain. Put that head in the toilet.
Dr. Dot
What's so crazy about them niggas too? Like for example, a Ben Shapiro type figure. You famous.
Brian
Get some pussy with that. Yeah, but it ain't about that for him. At some point.
Dr. Dot
At that point, yeah, you are.
Brian
I'm the smartest person in the world and everybody respects my opinion. And this is Judeo Christian way of doing things. Shut the fuck up. I would kick you down a flight of stairs.
Dr. Dot
Also being the smartest person in the world. Like I don't even sound like a vibe.
Brian
Actually, actually I want to stay far away from that. What do you mean smartest person in the world? What do you mean you like what do you do with that?
Dr. Dot
Exactly. Imagine how lonely the smartest monkey is. He just eating bananas.
Brian
For that. That ain't even good for you, bro.
Dr. Dot
You ain't doing for you, bro.
Brian
We really supposed to really. Our ancestors used to eat coconuts.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, exactly, man. That's too much bro.
Brian
You got to get the H3O when start. I'm telling you bro, it's just like, it's just like you ever, you ever go. I like, I like being a little bit stupid. It bro.
Dr. Dot
You ever be be over at Tillies, you got to go to Sil if you just you been toil. Yeah. Well I say for one thing what that is. It's a. It's like a super raw vegan restaurant in Atlanta. It's low key, old as like Badu used to go there when she lived here type.
Brian
I ain't going to heard you. I had it before.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
Somebody brought it to a studio.
Dr. Dot
You got to go, you got to go there.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
Just to have that like you gotta go in that, bro. Yeah, bro. Just for experience. Because I ain't gonna hold you. I I do with it. I would say this just as an honest as a cousin to cousin. The price is too high and the service is not good. But you gonna hear some woke facts that you ain't never.
Brian
But see I need like that that's the thing, bro. It's like bruh, you know what I'm saying? What's the what's the balance? You know what I'm saying? What's the cost effectiveness?
Dr. Dot
You gonna hear. You gonna hear say something that you like. I have never heard that combination of words.
Brian
I'm the first of my. I'm the first in my line.
Dr. Dot
What the. I'm staying this line.
Brian
Look, this the thing like, don't understand the value of Waffle House. It's not about the food.
Dr. Dot
No.
Brian
It's not about. It's not even about the service. It's just the environment, bro. It's the vibe. It's the vibe. Really. You could see this is the thing that don't understand. There's not a lot of place you can go and be ignorant and nobody give a fuck you did what I'm saying. It's almost control ignorance, too. Because you don't want to do too much. Because you don't want to be the nigga to fuck the Waffle House vibe up.
Dr. Dot
Exactly. You don't want to kill that vibe.
Brian
You don't want to kill that vibe. So it's just like, niggas know where to keep the ceiling of ignorance. Like, we can go in here and laugh and be loud, but we can't fight in the Waffle House. Also, I'm not trying to see your hands on that shit. You dig what I'm saying? You got to fight outside the Waffle House. That's. But inside, that's uncivilized, bro. I feel like the only people allowed to fight in the Waffle House is the people who work there.
Dr. Dot
I feel like when clubs. When clubs was more about n. Dancing, you kind of got a similar at least level of serotonin. But now, you know what I'm saying? The clubs is like a competition now. It's just too much competition. Like, who got the most bottles.
Brian
Yeah, that's corny. We done fucked the competition up. Cause it used to be who the best dancer was.
Dr. Dot
Yes, it is.
Brian
And like, I really think that if the younger generation is gonna do anything, it's like bring back a dance battle.
Dr. Dot
Bring back partying for partying.
Brian
Partying for partying sake. We having a good time.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
You know what I'm saying? Not. It's not a money competition. Because really all it is is like, who can waste the most money.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. I must say, who can get scammed the most. It's really the craziest thing. It's really who the easiest lick for this. For the.
Brian
When it's establishment that's selling you 40 bottles for 200.
Dr. Dot
I'm standing here.
Brian
That. Yeah.
Dr. Dot
But that's the problem, though. That's the problem, though. We shouldn't. You shouldn't. You didn't. You didn't have to be cool to dance. You just had to dance like that. Just move. Enjoy the music. Enjoy the hoes. Like, what?
Brian
You ever seen some of them recordings of Soul Train like, them wasn't even on Beat Them. They were just having a good time, bro. That's what we were saying. Like, watching the, like. Like, if I didn't know any better and I didn't know that the dogs went through all these baths for. You got on this boat, I would think he was fresh out the scene. Like, the was like, yeah, that was hitting that bit, bro. They, like, all of 60 right now.
Dr. Dot
But, like, hitting it still, though, because that's what that was about. It was like, I'm gonna have a good time, and then I'm gonna remember how much fun I had. Not got down because I ain't gonna hold you, bro. Obviously, I'm a rapper. I've been in the club a lot. I don't have very many memories of any of it. I don't remember. It's nothing that stood. I don't have, like, no time.
Brian
It's not memorable.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, it's not memorable. Like, I just been in that. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't have, like, a memory.
Brian
I just remember one time.
Dr. Dot
I remember parties that was fun.
Brian
I remember I was having the time of my life in the palace because they had open mic and I had performed, and, like, people was like, damn, that was really good. So I was kind of feeling good. And then the DJ came on and March Madness came on, and I had two fucking Long Island Iced Teas in my hand. That's fine. And I just started dancing my ass off like, it wasn't even about nothing else but where I was at in that moment. And I just, like, too long is crazy. Listen, bro, I'm telling you, I was like. I was like, I am having the time of my fucking life right now. And I just remember, like, saying to the top of my lungs, you know how sometimes music would just, like, make you feel that feeling like we the one that kept it cool with all you. Till you start acting like I had just fell out with a. And it was like, this is this. Future knows me, bro.
Dr. Dot
I said. I said this to this for the other day, bro. Future is gospel music.
Brian
He actually making blues music in a real way. He making gospel and blues music. Yes.
Dr. Dot
I told his KP years ago. KP Shout out money. Kp God. Then he helped us work on the album on Ghetto Guys. And he was like, what y' all listening to? I was like, well, I got this one thing I'm listening to no matter what, and it's a playlist I got called Future Gospel. And it's all the times I listen to a future song and I felt that I put it on the list, nigga.
Brian
I'm like, I was on my way to the right street in the paddock wagon, and it had me numb. I was like, oh, this nigga Gibson. This is gospel music, nigga. You're right. This gospel music.
Dr. Dot
Gospel music.
Brian
He one of the few rappers that ever made me just feel like, oh, my God, nigga, I'm out my body with like excitement, bro. This nigga just get it.
Dr. Dot
When I think about it. What's the other song? So many, bro. He got something married to the game. Oh, man. When married to the game first out, bro, we was on it for. We was goddamn playing that every night, bro. You know what I'm saying? We was on. We did this one tour. It's us, Jaden Smith, then us, then Thug and ysl, then Cole. It's crazy ass too.
Brian
One crazy, wild ass lineup.
Dr. Dot
Oh, man. Super fun arena tour. Every night, every get a locker. Like, each crew got a locker room. So we go in each other locker rooms. That was like. That was hella fun. Everybody just hanging out type. But at the end of the night will play that goddamn married to the game, man. Everybody is saying that, but needs to be drunk. Turned up Duke Autumn wise. Hell be like, really?
Brian
I appreciate it.
Dr. Dot
I really do. We used to be. That's your. That's. That's. That's like future just unifying, bro. All type of.
Brian
I'm telling you, bro, it's something about that, bro. Like, I was telling. I was telling that I had like one of my best takes I ever. One of my best tick tock takes ever. I was like, this future is a pharmaceutical representative. He's not a drug addict.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, he. He's a farmer rep, bro.
Brian
He a farmer.
Dr. Dot
He's one of the greatest to do it.
Brian
He's the best ever. He's the best ever.
Dr. Dot
Yes, for sure.
Brian
That is. Listen, bro, the thing is, it's like the. Is literally a musical genius, and you can't take that away from him. And he's top three in Atlanta all time.
Dr. Dot
He's a. He's an amazing songwriter. And songwriting has this thing because.
Brian
Yeah, because like, bro, I was still. I'm sorry to cut you off. No, I'm getting very excited about this conversation.
Dr. Dot
I love a future talk, bro.
Brian
Listen, bro, love and affection. When I first heard that song, that songwriting, bro. Bro, that is just songwriting.
Dr. Dot
Songwriting, bro. Like the. The be tapped in, but also, like, I say this, who be tapped in with his. Like, he gonna tell the truth.
Brian
Exactly.
Dr. Dot
You can love it. I hate it. You know what I'm saying? You can love it. I hate what I'm gonna say, but I'm gonna say this, bruh.
Brian
The thing is, it's like, you can't even be mad he's so honest about it.
Dr. Dot
Exactly.
Brian
He actually has a song about that.
Dr. Dot
Yes.
Brian
And then he has a song for everything.
Dr. Dot
And also, you got a song for every.
Brian
Got a song for everything. Every situation. Anything, bro. This is the listen, bro. Okay. 2000, 14, 15, 16. This is when I'm getting into my, like, move group Giant Africa, like, Black Panther. Like, I'm really into this. So, like, it's reflective. This actually probably around the time I discover y' all. And too. Because it's all making sense. Like, my musical taste is alignment. And I still love Future, though. So when he met. So when he made God blessing out of Trap, I was like, this is duality, bro.
Dr. Dot
But no, it's duality. But also, I don't think Future is out of this. Out of that realm, bro. I think he's saying some.
Brian
I mean. Cause on March Madness, he was a. Like, he. You know, he suddenly addresses some socially conscious.
Dr. Dot
I mean, yeah, but I. I think it's just the way he do it. Like, I say, bro, I think if you put future verses through something, like, you. You let a rapper do it on, like, a premiere beat, you're gonna hear it a lot differently. And you're gonna be like, damn, that nigga.
Brian
Yeah, but I don't. And, see, I don't even subscribe to that because some of the most ignorant music you can listen to is, like, west side Gun music. Like, he just say the most fly, ignorant shit ever.
Dr. Dot
You do subscribe. Because that's my exact point. My point is, it be the production.
Brian
But you think it's, like, super. But, like, what's I gonna even say? Like, bro, I'm just trying to say the grimiest, flyest. And he kills it.
Dr. Dot
Exactly.
Brian
Every time.
Dr. Dot
Exactly.
Brian
I love a Westside Gun song. There's nothing you can do. I don't care how lyrical Conway and Benny is. You're not better than him. Because it's just something about the. The way he do the. Said my G is looking like moon boots. I was like, he. He gets it.
Dr. Dot
He get it.
Brian
It's some. It's just the way you use words. It matters. All right, we'll wrap up on this. We'll wrap up the future talk and the interview.
Dr. Dot
Okay?
Brian
Who do you think can go toe to toe with Future in the versus, we'll do 10 songs. He has 20. And you can use everything. But you can use everything he ever put on dsp, I would say, because now. Now that I'm thinking about it, people, I was on threads telling that nobody can go toe to toe with Jay in that versus, but now that I think about it again, I think Future can.
Dr. Dot
I've always said future kid, and I feel like, you know.
Brian
Yeah, no, he's not untouchable, but in my mind, sometimes he is, bro. I mean, because it's the way that, like, wrong.
Dr. Dot
He the goat. But, like, no, he the goat, bro.
Brian
It ain't even about the hits, bro. It's about what the music mean to me personally.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
That'd be like, my whole. Like, my top five is not my favorite rapper rappers. You know what I'm saying? Because Matt, homie, in my top current five.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
Freddie Gives is in my top current five. Schoolboy Q is in my top current five. But, like, I know they not the top five rappers of all time.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
You see what I'm saying? But they my favorite.
Dr. Dot
But that's what it should be, though. That's what it should be for everyone. Like, everybody should have their own favorite.
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
Need to be trying to align favorites so they can feel like. Like they taste as good. Yeah.
Brian
You don't have better music tastes like, bro. I haven't even. There's Jay Z albums I just haven't heard, you know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
And it's not always be that way. And I'm okay with it.
Brian
I'm cool with it. Like, I don't need to hear the dinosaur. I'm straight.
Dr. Dot
Who can take Future? I'm gonna say. Definitely Kanye. And you kind of got to go through the whole catalog, but because I wouldn't say late Kanye.
Brian
Are we putting any asterisks on this?
Dr. Dot
I would like to know your asterisks after I say this.
Brian
Go ahead.
Dr. Dot
Because now you got me thinking.
Brian
One thing about Easy and Saha. So it's like.
Dr. Dot
Are you talking about, like, who wrote it?
Brian
Yeah.
Dr. Dot
No, I ain't. I ain't going off that.
Brian
We're going all performance.
Dr. Dot
I'm just going off the songs as they present.
Brian
Yeah. All right.
Dr. Dot
Because it's too. Because you and as a who being a lot of sessions, I know a lot of people write a lot of who. You know what I'm saying? I don't wrote some songs for that. I see. Get right all day and they'll never know I did. You know what I'M saying, like, I just.
Brian
If you think about, like, all day, when Kanye performed that at VMAX with all them flames, I was like, he is really blowing white people mind right now. Yeah, but he's also blowing my mind. But just the shock and awe on their face. It's like, so Kanye could do it.
Dr. Dot
Nelly could do it. I think a lot of people sleep on.
Brian
That's not a controversial take.
Dr. Dot
I feel like Nelly could do it. I don't know why. I mean, I know why we sleep on Nelly.
Brian
It's recency bias, but it's recently biased. But Nelly was going diamond, brother. And Hard Sell, one of the few.
Dr. Dot
Going diamond while active, too. A lot of diamonds come retroactively, you know what I'm saying? No, he was still making diamond while it was happening, bro. Like, that was this.
Brian
When I first heard. Yeah, I was in, like, the sixth grade. I was like, this is the greatest.
Dr. Dot
Rapper of all time ever, bro. And then the last one I would say is Pain, bro. And that's just because versus is hit for hit, baby.
Brian
And pain has. I got by.
Dr. Dot
Because I just want to tour with him.
Brian
But also while I'm on this tour, It's a refreshing.
Dr. Dot
I forgot.
Brian
Yeah. I'm just like, nah, because buy you a drink is fire. But also, like, I'm in love with a stripper is amazing, bro.
Dr. Dot
And he produced a lot of that.
Brian
He's a cold. He's very cold.
Dr. Dot
He produced it, do the harmonies, recorded himself.
Brian
There's not any other podcast, like, where I'm just, like, dying to go on it, but his.
Dr. Dot
Oh, yeah, no, you should pull up, bro. I can hit, y'. All. I did this, like, three times. Pause, and then.
Brian
That's real. That was a good part.
Dr. Dot
But also, like I said, we just. We just told him for a month, so. That's my dog, bro.
Brian
Yeah. Yeah. I just like the format of it, I think. And he just seemed like a really good time, you know what I'm saying? Like, he seemed like a fun guy.
Dr. Dot
Fun, super fun guy to be around, but also, like, I'm amazing. Just good.
Brian
Just a good human.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, you can.
Brian
It radiates off of him, you know what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
Then he gonna glow forever, and they gonna be successful forever because he's not gonna fuck it up along the way. He's just gonna be, you know what I'm saying? Lovable ass T. Pain. And whenever, like, the trend of his music come back in style, because that's all it is. Just, like with clothes. Your bows is back now. You know what I'm saying? Like, when come back around, he gonna be ready for it and he gonna capitalize because like, that's just what that is.
Brian
And he's like extremely talented. Though, like, we can never negate that fact. That man is talented.
Dr. Dot
And he can rap good as.
Brian
Okay, let's talk about this one more time. I know we was gonna rap on that, but we not. Let's talk about like some of the most talented negroes to ever grace this earth. Jamie Foxx.
Dr. Dot
Jamie Foxx. I break. Jamie Foxx. T Pain. Prince. Yes. Eddie Murphy.
Brian
Okay?
Dr. Dot
Eddie Murphy can do anything, bruh.
Brian
This is what I'm talking about. T not T Pain. Eddie Murphy has Diamond Records, arguably two of the best stand up comedy sets of all time. He was a on snl being himself. He revolutionized black film. The made reggae song. And that went half bad also. It was not terrible.
Dr. Dot
You gotta say this about his era too, because while you saying, hey, Murphy, all them of entertainers of that era was you had to do more than one thing. You couldn't just be like, I'm an influencer, I'm an actor. You had a scene, you had to sing, you had to dance. Even if your singing wasn't that great, you better keep working that. Yeah, that's just what it was, bro.
Brian
He was, he's. Bro, I just watched this documentary. I was like, God damn, bro. You forget how like, how much he accomplished? Because like this another thing too.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, no, I was watching this today. I ain't finish it. But yes, don't tell me too much. Yeah, just started before I came over here. Yes, brother, okay.
Brian
Yes. When I saw that, I was like, okay. I said, bro, I said, I don't, I don't, I'm not. I can't look at money the same, I think to this, right? Because this another thing we got to forget. We got to remember Trading Places, Boomerang, Harlem Nights. Has it starts a family.
Dr. Dot
The one where he was a congressman, like a filling. Congressman El was in it, one of.
Brian
Them older ones, but it was like a cult classic. But also what's coming to America. Think about this era of films. No, just chill. Just chill. This is what I'm saying. In the youth and his youth and the prime of his career. Beverly Hills Cop revolutionized film Boomerang, revolutionized black romance in film. This had kids and was like, I'm going, Dr. Doolittle, Shrek, Nutty Professor. Bro, bro. Do you know how good. First of all, let's talk about this. Do you know how good Donkey and Shrek is so good.
Dr. Dot
So good, bro. The first one. The first one especially he carried that.
Brian
He carried it, bro. I don't know, bro. First of all, you would think like, like next to Mike Myers, right?
Dr. Dot
I love Mike Myers, bro.
Brian
That's what I'm saying. Because I. Because we big fans of like Austin Power. Like, it's a. It's a big part of our reference bag.
Dr. Dot
Like, same, bro. We love. That's. We was watching on tour. I had this the whole bus.
Brian
It's hilarious, bro.
Dr. Dot
Yes, bro.
Brian
So like, this the thing. But anytime Shrek come on tv, I will watch it. There's not a time because of Eddie Murphy, he funny as.
Dr. Dot
But he was going crazy be sleeping on his performance as Mushu and Mulan.
Brian
Probably what led to it, because Mulan growing up was one of my favorite Disney movies because of like. But Mushu, bro, he didn't make it, bro.
Dr. Dot
This is too funny, bro.
Brian
He just get it, bro.
Dr. Dot
He get it.
Brian
He get it.
Dr. Dot
I feel Eddie one of the most talented, I think, I think probably the last, most talented, I would say that ever is Angela Bassett.
Brian
Angela Bassett is a girl.
Dr. Dot
She can do anything. And she did do anything for way too long, honestly, before she became like the thing like that everybody loves, right? She was doing it at a high level.
Brian
She didn't did everything at a high.
Dr. Dot
Level from the beginning. Yeah, yeah.
Brian
Because she made love. What's love got to do with it, bro? Like, do you know how many times my mom and sister watch that movie?
Dr. Dot
And then she good as.
Brian
That good as. And she was. She killing it. I didn't even see Waiting to Exhale. She got errors and now she on TV as a cop. She still looks amazing.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. But this is like. This is like her most chill.
Brian
She cooling.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? She like. Yeah. I mean, it's a victory lap.
Brian
Is it too. Is it too soon to put Donald Glover in him?
Dr. Dot
No.
Brian
Cause he had a funny ass stand up.
Dr. Dot
It's not too soon.
Brian
He had a decent rap career. It wasn't crazy.
Dr. Dot
It's not too soon.
Brian
The thing is, it's like, statistically it's very hard to make it and be known as a rapper. So just to be able to cross.
Dr. Dot
That threshold, how about I say, yeah, you got to give him credit for his rap career. Cuz I'm. I'm not even like, personally, sonically a fan of his rap, but I do have a lot of respect for it.
Brian
Cuz I know I with it. I like. I like Red Bone and this is America. Like, that's really what it comes.
Dr. Dot
I ain't like, this is America. That's why. That's where I be drawing on my line. I be like, man, I do not like that song. I like the older man, the 3005. I was with that.
Brian
I think the thing that saw me on this is America is the visual solely.
Dr. Dot
And I'm a who. I love. I love a dance number. I love a show tune. I still was not a fan of that particular one, but I love Redbone and I love a lot of his other music, and I love his freestyles. So I'm gonna give it to him.
Brian
I like his Sway in the Morning freestyle, where he just kind of like.
Dr. Dot
Talks to him on rapping. I'm gonna give it to him on singing. I'm gonna give it to him on acting. I'm gonna give it to him on comedy, because I saw his comedy special when I was still in high school graduate.
Brian
I seen was funny.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. I was like, this. Funny as hell.
Brian
This is hilarious. But also.
Dr. Dot
But Atlanta, and Atlanta is his own thing that to me, to me, that's the best thing he's ever done.
Brian
Listen, Brett, I don't. The thing is, is, like, he's gonna live in the shadow of having one of the greatest TV series of all time. And that is a good shadow to live in.
Dr. Dot
Yeah.
Brian
Because Mr. And Mrs. Smith on Amazon was amazing. It was amazing. It's amazing. Community. Just good.
Dr. Dot
That's just a great show. That's just a great show. But Atlanta. Atlanta was a part of the show. And when it was, they went to that season where it was damn near like, like, like Black Mirror Anthology kind of style. Each episode was different. Season three, I was like, oh, it's.
Brian
One of the greatest. Oh, it's one of the greatest seasons in TV film history ever.
Dr. Dot
It wasn't. It's not one. And like, for real, for.
Brian
It's not a beat that you can miss on that motherfucker and you can.
Dr. Dot
Watch it over and over again and get something different.
Brian
Exactly.
Dr. Dot
Like, that's why it's amazing. Layer, bro.
Brian
I'm like, it's Must see tv, bro. I would say the only other thing. Fargo. Fargo on fx, the series Fargo is if you like Tarantino, you'll love that.
Dr. Dot
Okay.
Brian
I'm telling you. And you can start. There's four seasons. You start season one, you. You probably want to leave the couch for three, four days. It's that good.
Dr. Dot
Okay.
Brian
You'll love it.
Dr. Dot
I've been recommended that before, too. I need to go ahead and lock in.
Brian
Just lock in.
Dr. Dot
I'll be watching a lot of Chris.
Brian
Rock actually did really good on season four. What you. What you with on Apple tv?
Dr. Dot
I with. I super fuck with that Pluribus. Have you seen that? It's relatively new. Pluribus is. But it's gonna you up, though. It's gonna say Breaking Bad. Okay. Crazy.
Brian
I'm gonna check that out.
Dr. Dot
And I with. I with that show Platonic with Seth Rogen.
Brian
I like that show.
Dr. Dot
That show good as hell.
Brian
And in the studio.
Dr. Dot
I really like the studio, bro. Like, I know it's like a darling show now, but when I was watching it, everybody I asked, it was like, nobody.
Brian
Nobody knew who it was watching it.
Dr. Dot
I was like, okay, y' all missing.
Brian
I'm gonna pretty much get anything Seth Rogan in a chance, though.
Dr. Dot
Rogan, bro. He. He a here who has won my trust.
Brian
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Dr. Dot
Sure.
Brian
Yeah, I try. I'm. I'm like that, though. Like, when people ask, like, what's your favorite movie? Or it's like, I'm more so fans of directors and actors. Like, I know if I see a certain director or actor attached to something, it's gonna be good. You know what I'm saying? It's gonna be like, if I see Billy Bob Thornton, I'm giving it a chance. You dig what I'm saying?
Dr. Dot
Favorite Billy Bob Thornton role don't say he was cracking Halle.
Brian
No.
Dr. Dot
Hell no.
Brian
I actually abhor that.
Dr. Dot
It's my least favorite.
Brian
I actually wish it didn't exist. Yeah, it took. It took H bar start down for me. Yeah, yeah, cuz like, damn, you was in a boomerang with Eddie Murphy now.
Dr. Dot
But range.
Brian
Range get you an Oscar. But I say this Billy Bob Thor. And between Sling Blade and he. He. He season one of Fargo killed. And then the Landman is really good. The land man is amazing.
Dr. Dot
We watched a little bit. That's what Cam kept talking about.
Brian
Landman is fire. 10 out of 10 for sure. Season one at least. 10 out of 10. And there's one more where he a Lord Goliath. Goliath hard. Billy Bob just gonna show up and do his thing.
Dr. Dot
Gonna do his thing. Yeah. You know, I also like a lot. He was kind of in that vein. Walton Goggins, the dude from.
Brian
Yeah, he.
Dr. Dot
He actually. He actually from Marietta. Yeah. You ever seen Raj's gemstones? Yeah, baby. Billy.
Brian
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dr. Dot
He from Marietta.
Brian
Broggins was in vice principals. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Dr. Dot
He killed that too.
Brian
Listen, if I see him. I'm clicking.
Dr. Dot
He's showing up.
Brian
He was on Fallout, too.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, he'd be killing. He be showing up, bro.
Brian
He be showing up.
Dr. Dot
He was on one of them other shows on hbo, the. The Hotel show, whatever show about the.
Brian
Oh, the White Lotus.
Dr. Dot
White Lotus, Yeah. He was on that.
Brian
Yes, bro.
Dr. Dot
And he'd be showing up. He's a Marietta bro.
Brian
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He is. Yeah. Damn. Well, shout out to car county, man. You know what I'm saying? Shout out my dog. Sam Foster, almost being the first black mayor of Marietta, man, lost by 87 votes. Oh.
Dr. Dot
No runoff.
Brian
No runoff. And do you remember that's Buddy that came up here? I interviewed him. I had something to do with that. No.
Dr. Dot
No runoff. That's close. It's just different out there.
Brian
It's different out there because it's old money.
Dr. Dot
Yeah. How about say that's the closest thing in the world? That's a runoff.
Brian
Exactly. Yeah. But in Marietta is racism.
Dr. Dot
Yeah, exactly. It's a racist.
Brian
He's a. The white man 1. Close the polls. But, Doc, man. Appreciate you, bro. You know, this your camera right here. You do all the plugs. Any plugs.
Dr. Dot
How of the moon, a Dr. Dot Saga is out right now on all streaming platforms. Or you can go to doctor dot dot com. It's super fun to say. Even funny to go to dot com. You can get the album, you get merch shows. Whatever we. Whatever we up to this way. You know what I'm saying? That way, these ways.
Brian
With me, Diana Kyle, host, podcast. But who's behind the camera?
Dr. Dot
Big Ice Cub Cat.
Brian
It's been another episode with our guest Dr. Do turn me up, man. I just want to rap. Want to rap. Yeah. They say without the proper labor, faith don't stand a chance.
Dr. Dot
I put my faith in faith and stand on fertile land I planted seeds that'll indeed turn into trees before rest.
Brian
In peace tease get printed to me.
Host: Deante’ Kyle
Guest: Dr. Dot (of EarthGang)
Date: November 29, 2025
This wide-ranging, unfiltered conversation between Deante’ Kyle and Dr. Dot covers music, art, Atlanta culture, fatherhood, Black history, and the joys and struggles of creative life. Dr. Dot discusses the transition from EarthGang tours and collaborative projects to his first solo album, "Howl at the Moon." Both speakers explore their creative processes, share personal stories, reflect on community, race, and masculinity, and provide sharp, witty takes on everything from pop culture to food deserts, reparations, and dance battles. The episode muses on the importance of storytelling, Black artistry, and the ever-evolving legacy of Atlanta.
"I think where a lot of people kind of get from me, they call it potency or lyricism or whatever, I’m just being as honest as I could be." (06:45)
"I want my kids to be successful in tech or science...to see success without having to be so visible." (38:01)
"It should just be...a show of good faith, infrastructural things..." (30:19)
"If you intentionally destroy something, you have to be intentional about your repair." (34:42)
"Do you know how much some coochie would just solve 80% of the problems of these [guys] online?" (79:12)
"Future is gospel music...he’s making blues music in a real way." (87:10)
"That’s like Future just unifying, bro, all type of [people]." (88:42)
"Keep black whimsy alive, bro...we deserve the absolute display of free will that was not afforded to us generations past." (50:41)
Laid-back, irreverent, and deeply candid—the conversation glides fluidly between serious cultural critique and crass humor, blending Atlanta wisdom, “dirty” storytelling, sharp takes on music and race, and the camaraderie unique to Southern creatives. Both Dr. Dot and Deante’ Kyle exhibit vulnerability, local pride, and a commitment to authenticity and honesty, especially about Atlanta, Black art, masculinity, and the realities of the creative grind.
This episode is an essential listen for fans of EarthGang, Atlanta’s creative scene, or anyone who appreciates Black storytelling and culture in its rawest form. Dr. Dot and Deante’ Kyle exemplify multigenerational Southern Black creativity, blending music, philosophy, humor, and hard truths—made for those who want to join the conversation about where Atlanta's culture has been, where it's going, and who gets to tell its story.