Dr. Dot (2:04)

Like.

Brian (2:04)

Yeah, so you said this, you said that. That was crazy. That was pretty crazy. That was really crazy. That was fun though. What you been up to though?

Dr. Dot (2:13)

Man Working man. Goddamn. Just finished. We toured all year. For real. We toured since January, quite literally from January to October. We was on the road to the end of October. So we did a lot of touring, which is good obviously for the pockets. I got two kids. I was like, hell yeah to everything, whatever anybody said. I was like, yeah, I'm doing it. But then I just. At the end of the T Pain tour, I released my first solo album.

Brian (2:36)

Okay.

Dr. Dot (2:37)

And that's been. That's been. That's been a journey. It's been a fun journey. It's been like, honestly, I feel like the genie at the end of Aladdin where that nigga just was like, ah. Like, just spazzing out. I've been feeling like that. It's been good.

Brian (2:50)

Yeah. Talk more about your first album, though. It's your first solo.

Dr. Dot (2:54)

It's called Howl at the Moon. It's a real expression of my life. Like, I feel like with Earth Gang, you know, we made a lot of songs about concepts, and it's more like kind of like Earth, Wind and Fire. We making these songs by these concepts that you can like, you know what I'm saying? Groove to and we turn it on his head. But with. I've always said if I wanted to do something by myself, I wanted to tell, like a real story. Like, I don't think a lot of people ever really hear about who we are as people, you know what I'm saying? So I just wanted to be super clear about that. It's a lot of Camelton Road on it. It's a lot of baby mama drama on it. It's a lot of goddamn, you know what I'm saying? It's. It's my get rich or die trying kind of story. So, okay, I wanted to put that into. Into motion, you know what I'm saying? So we were super deliberate with the sequence. Super deliberate with the motherfucking skits and shit. And, like, each song got a cover art because if you, like, flip it, it's like a book. So we like, we. We went super cerebral on this. In like, I was like, man, Atlanta also. I feel like Atlanta needs more of those. Yeah, I feel like. I feel like as a city, we don't do enough telling of our story. So sometimes that's why they discount us. Now, what they say, honestly, especially like, you know what I'm saying? I'm. When I'm big on saying, you know, Atlanta rappers don't get the lyrical credit they deserve because the beat selection, that's really all it is. They hear some premiere drums and they think this is lyrical. But, like, if we are going crazy, we make. We doing lyrical and making you dance, that's a whole different argument for a different day. But we need more Atlanta niggas telling a story on a song. Bro.

Brian (4:20)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (4:21)

On an album. Not. Not just a song on an album.

Brian (4:24)

Do you think it's limiting when you in a group, though, like, to, you know, per song, you get one verse. Right. So there's. It's. There's. You have to begin, set, and finish a story in 16 to 18 bars.

Dr. Dot (4:37)

Yeah.

Brian (4:38)

So it's harder to do.

Dr. Dot (4:39)

We get to say less.

Brian (4:40)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (4:40)

Which is just, you know, that's just physics. That's not necessarily. You know what I'm saying? You can do what you can. Sometimes. We got certain songs where we, like, going back and forth, and we got certain songs where, like, I might do something, like, I might do two verses, he'll do one. But either way, you still are, like. If you could think about, like, a idea as, like, a metaphysical space, you still are sharing this space.

Brian (4:59)

Correct.

Dr. Dot (5:00)

There's only so much each soul can occupy.

Brian (5:03)

Right. Right. So it's called Highlight the Moon. One of y' all first collector projects, though, had also had, like, a wolf theme.

Dr. Dot (5:11)

Yeah. Strays of Ra Babies. Another. Another one that was thematically kind of a brainchild of me. I was super on there. Like, yeah, man. You know what I'm saying? But I always. I mean, I'm a dog person. You know what I'm saying? I had, like, six, seven dogs in my life. I always kind of connect with the nature of, like, the hunt, and I felt like I'm on a hunt. You know what I'm saying?

Brian (5:32)

Yeah. Yeah. That's how I got hip. I was hip to a lot of y' all early work. Liquor store probably was like, the first thing I was like, these the niggas.

Dr. Dot (5:41)

Like, we shot that shit at the same place. One shot that one video. It was like back to back. It was like, start just sliding out.

Brian (5:50)

They just getting it out. Yeah, I. I think one of the. One of the biggest, like, allures of y', all, not only as a group, but you specifically, is your lyrical ability, but also, like, the range you bring to it lyrically, because you can, like, slow flow them, but you could speed it up on the tube. But it's always. It's always been in depth. It's always been like. It's like nigga consciousness. Like, you ain't overly conscious where nigga don't want to have a conversation with you. It's enough depth into it where it's like, you done live the real life and you infusing that into the messages where it's, like, not too over the head, but it do make you think I would say that that's always like, a long road to travel.

Dr. Dot (6:34)

Yeah. And it is long road travel because I think, you know, the audiences are trained. Right? All audiences are trained. So, like, if audiences at large are being trained to, like, respond to a certain type of style or a certain theme, then that's just what they. You know, people are just animals at the end of the day. They just doing the training. But I think where a lot of people kind of get. From me, you know, they call it potency or lyricism or whatever. I'm just being as honest as I could be. That's my main thing. Like, I'm going in the booth and I'm like, okay, cool. I'm just gonna say this exactly how the this happened. You know what I'm saying? Take it or leave it. And I think when people see that, I think it's like a subconscious audacity to that. That folks be like, yeah, okay. Nah, he actually was bold enough to not lie. Like, every. I like the lies. Everybody like the lie. I got a bunch of songs where I know is lying to me, but I love the record. But, like, it cut through a little more when you just be, like. Just, like, looking. You know what I'm saying? I feel like I break the fourth wall of that.

Brian (7:30)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (7:30)

You know?

Brian (7:31)

Yeah, I would agree with that. I think one of the things that I didn't. I didn't like this, per se. I understood it, like, the outcast comparisons and things. I get it Same side of Town duo. Things like that. You two niggas and y' all have, like, a relatively socially aware. A social awareness where it's like, just the next outcast. But I always felt like that was kind of like lowering the ceiling on y', all, where y' all was a lot more expressive in different ways. It was two super lyrical niggas. Cause, like, that was like a yin and yang, like the player and the conscious. But I think with y', all, y' all both balance player and consciousness within yourself.

Dr. Dot (8:12)

I don't know, man. I feel like I'm more player, but I'm also.

Brian (8:16)

You also didn't do the. I remember when I seen Olu doing an interview, and he was just taking the clothes off the whole time. You know what I'm talking about? I mean, yeah, you know what I'm talking about.

Dr. Dot (8:24)

I don't know which one, but I.

Brian (8:26)

Was like, why are you taking his clothes off?

Dr. Dot (8:30)

It's the Green Goblin mask. Just do this, man. But, yeah, no, I think. I think, you know, the comparison was cool or whatever. I Get it? Like I say, two niggas, you know, whatever they gonna do. But I think what we bring to it is like a different one, just a whole different era. Like correct. Correct. At least two decades before us. At least. And then we also bring to it, like I feel like what they did was like put a bunch of eyes on Atlanta. That was their mission. They achieved their mission and beyond. They super fucking achieved their mission. I think what I feel like in my heart, our mission is or should be is to strengthen the art world here.

Brian (9:16)

Yeah, yeah.

Dr. Dot (9:17)

Like they put the eyes on it, we gotta strengthen it, right? We got to make it like, you know, I'm saying it has to rival Paris, it has to rival New York. It has to rival, you know, I'm saying these places that are like these as we got our city like that I feel like the quality of art and the amount of art and the type of things we do artistically that the city shows, we got to really like cement that shit. And I think that's what our generation really supposed to do.

Brian (9:39)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (9:39)

So, yeah, I think that's just. We just taking the torch to that level.

Brian (9:42)

Like. Yeah, level, like high level art too. Yeah, that's. That's something that I'm extremely invested in. Like Maya Bailey, he got, he does like the art strolls and like Nina Baldwin Gallery, City of Ink just opened back up and that whole, that whole strip. Yeah, Shout Out Amaya Bailey, he been.

Dr. Dot (10:03)

Rocking with us since I was in like high school, bro. He always been like, yeah, he be.

Brian (10:06)

Showing a lot of love, but like he put on for black artists out here in a way that you don't really see. But also like all of these artists are extremely talented too. And even like hobby like the whole time. West End, it's just a hub, like a art. And I think that's one thing that's like lesser known about Atlanta. When people think about like the music, the strip club, but they don't know about the art scene and like how.

Dr. Dot (10:31)

And it's strong. It's so many super talented people.

Brian (10:34)

Like, it's very dynamic, you know what I'm saying? It's like one of the most. You know, I've been to a lot of different cities and you know they districts be cool. But I think here specifically is such a focal on black artists and like how extremely talented they are. You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't got to go by no. You don't got to go by no Van Gogh, you know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (10:52)

Yeah, you could get like that quality or more. You know, it's really just the lore in the story. So that's what I want to do. I want to bring. Just because we, you know, as all art is, it's like how much you get people to believe in it. Right. So we just got. Got to. Got to establish that whatever that is on the. On the level that every other city has, you know what I'm saying? I think it's happening in a lot of ways. You see a lot of artists that are, you know what I'm saying, doing well. But I feel like whatever it takes to root that feeling in the city, that's what I want to like discover and make happen.

Brian (11:20)

Yeah. Going solo for you though, was this always like, do you feel like you just get comfortable being in a group where it's like, like not even artistically, it's less work. But I'm saying output wise it is less. Also as a collaborative thing, I mean, it's less.

Dr. Dot (11:37)

But I can't say less and more because we, we at the same time, we tour more than anybody and we record a lot. So I don't know if it's less because if we got double the songs that y' all got, then, you know.

Brian (11:47)

What I'm saying, it's actually more.

Dr. Dot (11:48)

Yeah.

Brian (11:50)

Balance it out.

Dr. Dot (11:50)

Yes. But we definitely got them. I think just me going solo, I mean, it was always gonna happen with both of us. Honestly, at the end of the day, you know, we never gonna agree on every song. It's like, you know, it's like making movies together, you know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, you got Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, they made a bunch of movies together in the beginning. And then they just started taking up stories that they wanted to tell. So I think we just got stories we wanna tell that ain't gonna always be the same story. Like it's still my dogs with em today, you know what I'm saying? Still my dog. But like absolutely we gonna tell these stories, you know what I'm saying?

Brian (12:20)

I think that's real though. I'm glad that it like one of the worst things is always like dynamic duos have these like fallouts, you know what I'm saying? I don't think that have to be the story. I think sometimes there is the story.

Dr. Dot (12:33)

Sometimes it's just fun. And I'll be honest, I kind of wanted. I lowkey tried to orchestrate one a couple years ago. I was like, hey, you know what we should do, bro? We should do an Earth versus gang tour. Like, we beefing in. Like, he wasn't too into the idea, but that is the nature of us. Yeah, I say some shit like, bro, you know what she do? He be like, all right, man.

Brian (12:53)

Calm down, bro. Like, what was one of your biggest inspirations, though, when you went into the album? I know it's like a lot about you storytelling and things like that, but are these stories you feel like you've been holding onto?

Dr. Dot (13:08)

Hell yeah. A lot of them I couldn't tell. Cause it's like if I couldn't tell him through the Earth Gang lens, because, you know what I'm saying, these stories that he ain't even really went through. Just like, he got stories I ain't went through, you know what I'm saying? Some of them like. Like, for example, I know he ain't had half the, like, toxic ass to be ass drama that I've lived through. I know he has it. Cause I just be on a different time, you know what I'm saying? I was honestly up until recently a lot more nefarious member of the group. So you know what I'm saying? It's like Ralph Trazvan and I'm Bobby Brown, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I done been Bobby, so I gotta tell the Bobby Brown story, you know what I'm saying? But like, also, like, I think. I think we just. I don't know, I think. I think where it balances us. I think it's good to have like every now and then, you know, you have like the Captain Crunch to just all the berries, you know what I'm saying? Like, I just wanted to give people that just oops. All berries, bro. I want to go us all bears on. And I wanted to see for myself what that was like. I ain't never really my damn. I've been making music with this since goddamn 2010 for sure. And that's before even anybody knew about us. That's just us going to goddamn going to. Going to Mercy and Yaqui House, shout out to Pot Lord, you know what I'm saying? The first studio I ever recorded, that was his spot. But, you know, now I'm like, damn, let me just see what I sound.

Brian (14:20)

Like, you know what I'm saying? Do you. When. When you choose to go solo, does that open up, like, the, you know, array of sounds you could use too?

Dr. Dot (14:31)

Hell yeah.

Brian (14:31)

Because you. I feel like Earth Gang does have like a sound. Earth Gang does have a sound, obviously, like. And you and you, you know, quiet as kill. You can get really, really into your rapper bag. Yeah, rapper. I. I could see you on a conductor. Be easy.

Dr. Dot (14:45)

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, man. Wherever. If you see this ever, you know what the going on. But yeah, I mean, I like. I like rapping, I like singing. I like doing both. I don't like feeling like I gotta pick one on a song, you know what I'm saying? Like, I like, I was. This album is heavily inspired by Lauryn Hill's album, you know what I'm saying? Miseducation definitely inspired this. It's like Miseducation, 2B movies and Tarantino movies. And like, that's all I was watching.

Brian (15:11)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (15:11)

And now I was listening to, like, while in the creation of this. And that's all I was making the work on it. Watch too. So, like, everybody working. We in the studio. Turn on, turn on tubi. Yeah. That is the choices.

Brian (15:22)

That's the duality of man, bro.

Dr. Dot (15:24)

Yeah. And that's. That's how I wanted it. I was like, we gotta keep this, like, because we want to see this cinematic greatness, but we want to tell these stories that, like, don't necessarily get that cinematic look, you know what I'm saying?

Brian (15:33)

Let's talk about some of your more nefarious activity, you know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (15:37)

I'm open book.

Brian (15:38)

What you. Well, you said, like, I'm one nefarious member. What you mean?

Dr. Dot (15:42)

Drugs, whores? Yeah, you know, whatever, bro.

Brian (15:47)

Sex, drugs and rock and roll type.

Dr. Dot (15:49)

Yeah, exactly. Just say drugs and rock and roll has been kind of like my vibe out the gate. More pensive at first. And then he got super rock starry. And then he got super into, like, spirituality and yoga. So I feel that, you know what I'm saying, I'll be stretchy too, but, like, I'd be also stretching the limits of the mind.

Brian (16:11)

Yeah. I too have had my fair share of drugs and whores and, you know.

Dr. Dot (16:17)

It'S a good time, bro. I ain't gonna hold you, man.

Brian (16:18)

It's a great time. It can turn into a tubi movie quick.

Dr. Dot (16:21)

It can turn into a tubi movie quick. And as I've matured about my business, I care less about that shit. So I feel like I'm one of the lucky ones. I ain't get addicted to anything. I'm not. I ain't never been like, oh, I need. I gotta have a fixing. I forget. I'll have a bag of weed now forever. I got kids now. I can't be Hiring them niggas, they too active.

Brian (16:43)

I be like, how old your kids?

Dr. Dot (16:45)

Young as fuck. My son about to turn eight on Friday. And then, hey, hey, hey. Yeah, big eight.

Brian (16:52)

He'll be eight by the time this come out.

Dr. Dot (16:54)

Yeah, that's my big dog. So. Yeah. Happy birthday, little man. Love you. And then my daughter about to be two in April.

Brian (17:00)

Okay. Yeah.

Dr. Dot (17:02)

So she going crazy right now. Yeah, she's little.

Brian (17:04)

Yeah. I got. My youngest is. My baby is seven. That's my. My daughter. And then my two oldest is boys. My oldest 14.

Dr. Dot (17:12)

But he taller than you did.

Brian (17:15)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dr. Dot (17:16)

My son is gonna be taller than me. I'm just like, man, well, his mama.

Brian (17:20)

So like, his granddad on his mama's side, he got down like 6, 4. And then all his goddamn siblings and nephews is like, six, four, six, six. So I knew it. Like, fifth grade. I like, damn, he gonna stretch out way taller than me. But he cool as though, like, that's my homie.

Dr. Dot (17:36)

Like, are y' all alike in a lot of ways?

Brian (17:38)

Yeah, for sure. He take up a lot of similar interests as me, but also, like, he getting into that 14 year old, like, I got a girlfriend, I got fly shoes, and, like, I'm good, bro. He was like, I don't really be needing. He asked me the other day for, like. He was like, I want some equipment so I can start making beats. He's like, I figured it out. I don't want to be in front of the camera. He's like, that's your thing. He's like, I used to want to rap, but I think it'd be cooler to make the songs that rappers rap too. I was like, you got a good head on your shoulder.

Dr. Dot (18:08)

I'm about to say it's some good thinking right there. Some good thinking right there.

Brian (18:11)

I always told him, though, that, like, the more money, the most money you gonna make is behind the scenes. Yeah.

Dr. Dot (18:15)

I mean, that's with anything. That's with anything. Because you get. You get one way more opportunities the more in front you are. It looked like a lot of opportunities than it is in a lot of ways. But also it's like a lot of opportunities as this. You know what I'm saying?

Brian (18:27)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (18:28)

The podcast shit is put on more hats.

Brian (18:30)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (18:30)

Gotta do your thing.

Brian (18:32)

I always keep telling everybody, like, the long term goal is to get behind the camera. I want to write and direct.

Dr. Dot (18:41)

How long term is that for you? Like, 15 years, 10 years? Five?

Brian (18:45)

Less than that. To keep this podcast, like, short and sweet. I'm gonna keep it real. I don't really see us doing more than 250 episodes.

Dr. Dot (18:57)

I'm gonna call cap on that. Gonna do more than that, bro. What? Right up right at 249. Disney gonna buy this or something. Apple gonna buy this.

Brian (19:09)

Like, but. Yeah, but see then, like, that's the thing. I don't want to work for nobody.

Dr. Dot (19:12)

I feel that though.

Brian (19:13)

Cause like, this took me away from a nine to five and this we just did. Episode 101 just dropped today. So it's like I seen you had.

Dr. Dot (19:23)

Your grandma on 100.

Brian (19:24)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was love, man. But I. I'm looking at it like it ain't like maybe, maybe a season two, you know what I'm saying? Maybe it'll come back. But like by that time, like, the music show will be going. We gotta get you on the music show too. We bringing. So speaking of Atlanta and art and eco. Ecosystem of art, we gonna start third. Mute these mics real quick. A few moments later. By that time, I feel like I've been so established in the media space that I'll be able to do other things. The music show will be extremely est established by then. Big Cat will have his own going where it's like, it's. It's our thing together. But he. The more forward facing one on that show and it'll allow me to do other things that I want to do, like act, write, direct. You know what I'm saying? So I think the easiest way to get behind the camera is to stay in front of it in a different space. So now I'm talking in front of it, but acting in front of the camera for a few bits. Learning the movie industry, learning that, and then eventually writing and directing it. I got like three scripts I'm just sitting on.

Dr. Dot (20:28)

I feel that, bro.

Brian (20:28)

You know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (20:29)

I wrote like one script in the Pandemic and then I did a ton of auditions, got super close to one show and then lost it last minute. And then I started doing like, I did some voiceover work and some merchants and. But like, I'm trying to get on that acting bad too.

Brian (20:42)

It just seem fun, you know what I'm saying? I wanted.

Dr. Dot (20:45)

I want.

Brian (20:46)

Okay, so like, I want to do.

Dr. Dot (20:47)

All that other man. I want to do stage plays. I don't give a. Yeah, all that.

Brian (20:51)

I be low key in the city, doing stand up.

Dr. Dot (20:55)

That's how you gotta do.

Brian (20:55)

But I don't record it or make content. It's just like to help me with my stage process. Yeah, because we're gonna go on tour next year. So it's like, I want to be comfortable.

Dr. Dot (21:03)

Is gonna be crazy.

Brian (21:04)

My, that nerve wracking.

Dr. Dot (21:07)

How many cities are doing, you know, yet?

Brian (21:10)

They want us Southeast first, but they want us everywhere. Our analytics is crazy. So the Midwest for sure.

Dr. Dot (21:18)

Yeah. That's super crazy out there.

Brian (21:21)

California, Texas. We have feel that in California because yeah, it's one of them ones where it's like we gotta add shows the way it is in demand because like Atlanta, every time we drop in Atlanta, that sell out immediately. So it's like, I wanna. The New York show we got next week, it sold out. They were trying to book us for a second show, but I'm like, no.

Dr. Dot (21:45)

I would have did it.

Brian (21:46)

I don't. It's a message base, though. It's not music like you gotta sit.

Dr. Dot (21:50)

That's true.

Brian (21:51)

I. It ain't no set. It's a message. So it's like you don't want to dilute the message by just continually. You know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (21:56)

Yeah, you kind of. And you make it. You get that FOMO going, you get money, scarcity marketing.

Brian (22:04)

But. So me and you both, Tarantino, that's my I. With his feet fetish ass, right?

Dr. Dot (22:11)

Yeah, his weird.

Brian (22:12)

He a weird ass.

Dr. Dot (22:13)

The word up says fetish feet fetish.

Brian (22:15)

Yeah. Hey, look, one thing too. I don't never make excuse for white people, but when I was watching Django, I was like, this is how they talk, bro.

Dr. Dot (22:22)

100% is how they talk. I was not offended. I was like.

Brian (22:24)

I wasn't offended. I was like, this is actually what happened. This biblically accurate as, bro. You know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (22:30)

My people came from slaves.

Brian (22:31)

So I be like, I don't be shamed of that.

Dr. Dot (22:33)

Y' all need to say that. Y' all need to see this. That's how I be feeling.

Brian (22:36)

Like. Yeah, yeah. Cause my. My folks from Thomaston, Georgia, so. Okay, I know.

Dr. Dot (22:40)

I know where that's.

Brian (22:41)

I know where it keep going. I know the further back it goes, what it was looking like.

Dr. Dot (22:44)

Oh, yeah, I got receipts, bro. I'll be telling people all the time. I got receipts from the last sharecroppers in my family. This is in the 60s. My mama gave us all receipts for.

Brian (22:53)

Christmas.

Dr. Dot (22:56)

To be like, no, where you come from. So that's what we got.

Brian (23:00)

How you feeling about that year? You canceling Christmas with us?

Dr. Dot (23:02)

Nah, I love Christmas.

Brian (23:04)

Yeah, I love Christmas. Well, we got to cancel the corporation. That's really.

Dr. Dot (23:07)

Yeah. I love. I love the Sitting down with the. With the kids type. Like, I love that.

Brian (23:12)

Me too.

Dr. Dot (23:13)

I love that people leave me alone during that time. That's my. That's my favorite part. It's like, yeah, yo. Yeah, it's Christmas, everybody.

Brian (23:20)

You know what I'm saying? You could text me, say Happy Christmas. I mean, Merry Christmas.

Dr. Dot (23:23)

The whole corporate. You know what I'm saying? Unfortunately, you know what I'm saying? It doesn't get more American than that. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it's that constant, constant thing what they say. Who said it. To be a black in America is to be in a constant rage.

Brian (23:40)

Yeah. James Bow.

Dr. Dot (23:41)

Yeah. Yeah, it's that thing.

Brian (23:43)

So it's like, yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm like always gone. You know what I'm saying? Whatever the people on. I'm on, you know what I'm saying? So if we doing a blackout from the 25th to the second, I'm on, you know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (23:55)

And I didn't even know about that. So it's a blackout. Is that what we doing? You're nothing.

Brian (23:59)

Yeah, it's gonna be. Yeah. Cause it's gonna be Black Friday, Cyber Monday and all that shit. I don't fuck with it. No way. So it's like, okay, easy. But I think what people trying to do is like withdraw their dollar from corporations. And I. And my thing is, it's like, you can also help like prop up some more family owned, independently owned businesses. And at times, you know, it might not be as convenient, but convenience is a killer, bro.

Dr. Dot (24:25)

It is, bro. Convenience is a cancer, bro.

Brian (24:27)

Convenience is how you. Yeah, yeah. Cause fast food convenient. Yeah, that also we seen here. Was that called the big. What was. Was the. The. That was eating Big Macs every day. You remember his kids supersonic.

Dr. Dot (24:40)

I saw, I saw, I saw a thing about that recently. He was like, oh yeah. Maybe that's why I saw an article because he was. He was talking about he was actually doing way more than McDonald's. I was like, yeah, it seemed like it because I mean, McDonald's make you get big. But that was fast.

Brian (24:56)

Yeah, yeah, you put it on quick. What the thing is too, is like.

Dr. Dot (25:01)

Where people just drinking a lot of time.

Brian (25:03)

Of course you are. Every day. Of course you are. You know why? Because you addicted to sugar. And like alcohol is just. That's the same. It's like that. What don't really account for when it comes to fast food is the amount of sugar in that the bread is damn near all Sugar. I know they did something with Subway where it's like, it ain't even break because of how it's so much sugar in that it can't even be considered bread.

Dr. Dot (25:25)

That's crazy.

Brian (25:26)

Also, like, who. Who the evil villain ass that was like, that sawdust we're gonna make eat that a genius.

Dr. Dot (25:33)

Unfortunately. Unfortunately, he's smart as. That's the worst thing about him, actually.

Brian (25:38)

Yeah. Here's the worst thing. The. The too smart boy's all good.

Dr. Dot (25:41)

Too smart for humanity.

Brian (25:42)

This is the thing, too. We was just talking about that today. Like, the innovation that come out of Nazi Germany is crazy.

Dr. Dot (25:49)

Oh, yeah.

Brian (25:50)

You know what I'm saying? And it ain't.

Dr. Dot (25:51)

It ain't going nowhere. It's. It's deeply in the DNA of society, you know?

Brian (25:55)

Right.

Dr. Dot (25:55)

All of. All Western society, at least. And really Eastern at this point. Yeah.

Brian (25:59)

Eastern European, for sure.

Dr. Dot (26:01)

I would say. Yeah.

Brian (26:02)

Asians like them Asians. But they'll be innovating like a. The difference is. Okay, so tell me what you think about my theory on this. So my theory is the reason why America isn't progressive is because we're not a nation of nationality.

Dr. Dot (26:18)

Yeah.

Brian (26:19)

It's because of.

Dr. Dot (26:20)

Imagine these cultures work together.

Brian (26:22)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (26:23)

They move faster. That is what it is.

Brian (26:25)

Because. Because when you do something for China, you're doing it for the Chinese.

Dr. Dot (26:28)

Yeah.

Brian (26:28)

When you do something for America, it's like, damn, I'm doing it for. I don't know about that.

Dr. Dot (26:31)

Exactly. And that's what it is. It's who you don't want to do it for. That slows everything down.

Brian (26:35)

Exactly.

Dr. Dot (26:35)

You over there, like I said, y' all should. Y' all need to travel. I was in Japan last year, and that was the first thing I noticed. I was like, damn. Everybody over here agrees. You know what I'm saying? Like, okay, it's no trash cans. Because everybody know, take your trash home. Like, it's not. No. Who like it. Like. You know what I'm saying? Aren't jaywalking over there. Because if you. Jay was like, what's your problem? Like, look at you. Like, what's wrong with you? You see these cars coming? Like, you know what I'm saying? Everybody on the train, quiet. That's bruh. Huh? They still. Yeah, yeah. But it's reasonable, too. I mean.

Brian (27:07)

No, but shame, shame, shame. Shame. Shapes, though. You know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (27:13)

Yeah.

Brian (27:13)

It's because you don't want to be constantly shame.

Dr. Dot (27:15)

Yeah. You don't want to be constantly shame.

Brian (27:17)

Because that is humiliation really, at the end of the day, like here, if you're in Atlanta, a part of walking is crossing the street regardless of cars or not. Yeah, that'd be. That'd be a like, damn. You don't know how to cross the street. Cause in Atlanta, like, I'm crossing the street whether a car is coming or not. I don't got it timed out.

Dr. Dot (27:35)

Yeah.

Brian (27:35)

Like, I'm damn near hip hop to bumper with this, bro.

Dr. Dot (27:38)

We used to.

Brian (27:39)

While it's going 55 an hour.

Dr. Dot (27:41)

Yeah. We used to go down tape motor, bruh. I used those. Used to be like looking at niggas who was sitting there waiting like green ironing.

Brian (27:52)

Yeah. It's like one of my favorite things about the city. And also, like, why I know this is just like out of control at the same time. Because it's like always these pockets of like, progress. Progress. But like, also who, like, value ignorance.

Dr. Dot (28:08)

Yeah. And I feel like. I feel like every city got that.

Brian (28:11)

I feel like I only care about this place.

Dr. Dot (28:14)

I just only care about here. And I just feel like on the. On the scale of like the. The world, I would say, or maybe the Internet, it's just. It's just we are just the most looked at. You know what I'm saying? Just be watching this here because it's like, oh, look, this is what a.

Brian (28:27)

Lot of things be on.

Dr. Dot (28:28)

It's like, nah, bro. New York got doing crazy too.

Brian (28:31)

New York is actually enhanced as exactly. And it's huge.

Dr. Dot (28:35)

And it has no choice. You know what I'm saying? Paris be thinking Paris is like just one thing. You go over there, it'd be the same. You seen in New York.

Brian (28:44)

It is, bro.

Dr. Dot (28:44)

Same rats. Them you got hats on. It's like the same.

Brian (28:54)

Sophisticated rats.

Dr. Dot (28:56)

That's all the longest.

Brian (28:57)

Yeah. He over there eating cheese and grapes, but over here eating pizza. That's just the difference. It's still cheese. My. My thing is too, is like from being a truck driver. After you travel this country enough, you just realize, like, the only thing really different between people is the accents. Because we all ultimately value the same shit. We all will agree with each other privately. Is just agreeing with each other publicly mean we don't point out the history of the country? Like, I think that's the biggest part is like, especially that's the.

Dr. Dot (29:33)

That's the gap that's stopping is the history.

Brian (29:36)

I think. I think the. The acknowledgement. Like. Like there needs to be. I think black people. Only thing we want really is to acknowledge the wrongdoing and repair. You know what I'M saying reparations is less about money and more about, like, damn, you can't just fuck a Nigga over for 400 years and then just be like, whoops, y' all straight. We good now, right? Y' all free? Like, no. As soon as y' all freed us, y' all put on black codes. So that's another. And then, yeah, Jim Crow, right In the war on drugs. That's another. Like, come on.

Dr. Dot (30:09)

I would say reparations is. I agree with you there that, like, a lot of think, like, you know, who gonna get the checks. It's like, no, it's not that they should. It should just be, like.

Brian (30:17)

It's a gesture of repair.

Dr. Dot (30:19)

It should be.

Brian (30:19)

And it should be taught, and it.

Dr. Dot (30:21)

Should be, honestly, like, as far as, like, a show, a show of good faith, a project every. You know, I'm saying, like, a very intention project in all our communities type. If. If. And it's. It's gonna sound crazy. It sounds extreme saying shit like this, but, like, the government should have a thing that they do for. For black and brown communities, because you might as well just put everybody in it now. You know what I'm saying? But, like, they should be like, okay, look, we're gonna guarantee that all schools are up to this level of quality or something like that. You can guarantee street. You know what I'm saying? Just infrastructural things should be very, very.

Brian (30:55)

It should be a given, bro.

Dr. Dot (30:56)

Yes.

Brian (30:56)

Because. Because the environmental racism is. I need this. I need this environment to reflect how I want people to think about you.

Dr. Dot (31:04)

Yes.

Brian (31:05)

And it's a lot. It's. It's a waste of time, bro.

Dr. Dot (31:08)

Yeah.

Brian (31:08)

You know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (31:09)

Like, I mean, it just slow everything down.

Brian (31:11)

It slow everything down. And, like, a lot of people don't realize how much they hurt themselves by wanting to see other people hurt. But. But, like, the thing is, is, like.

Dr. Dot (31:18)

It'S almost any instance, like, big or small, though. That's the crazy thing. Like.

Brian (31:21)

Yeah. And that's why it's hard for niggas to be coalescing with us.

Dr. Dot (31:24)

Even if, like, your hand gonna hurt a little bit. Like, if you really hit that nigga.

Brian (31:27)

Yeah. If you really fall off on it, it don't matter if he fall. Something broke.

Dr. Dot (31:30)

Yeah.

Brian (31:31)

You.

Dr. Dot (31:31)

Yeah. You know what I'm saying something, bro?

Brian (31:32)

Like.

Dr. Dot (31:32)

Yeah.

Brian (31:33)

Yeah, I think. And that's a. That's a big problem. Why we have, like, problem with coalition. It's like, I don't want to coalesce with other minority Groups. If I know y' all have like a lot of anti blackness baiting into y' all culture too. And then it's like at the end of the day it's like you gonna want to be the part. But historically we have led the charge on all the civil rights and like put our lives on the line for this. The. The lack of acknowledgment of the is like where be like, you know what we ain't doing no more. It.

Dr. Dot (32:00)

Yeah. And I feel like acknowledgment it gotta only come from a major action. Like you can't just. It can't just be like thank you.

Brian (32:10)

No, it ain't no thank you. It's also like teach the full history truthfully. Yeah.

Dr. Dot (32:15)

Teach the history truthfully. And then do a thing.

Brian (32:17)

And then do something. Yeah, Repair.

Dr. Dot (32:19)

Yeah, like repair physical thing.

Brian (32:21)

Right.

Dr. Dot (32:21)

I don't care if you start small and just make sure nowhere where black people live have potholes. They just. Let's just do stuff that is good faith. No school.

Brian (32:29)

Have a shortage of books.

Dr. Dot (32:30)

Yeah.

Brian (32:31)

Access to like food and. Yeah, no shit like that.

Dr. Dot (32:34)

Like no more food. Desert access to. Yeah, I'm gonna say not just access to food. Access to good food.

Brian (32:38)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (32:39)

Access to some shit like, you know what I'm saying? Like I remember. So when I was in high school, they had this shit called the School for the Common Good, where some from my high school would be like selected to go spend a day every week at Westminster. And some. And then we would switch off every month. Some in Westminster come to Maze and just be just mortified for a day. But when we would go to Westminster, I was one of the guy. Cause I was a smart. So we would go to Westminster and I'd be in that, bro. Like if I felt like Rashad on atl, bro, I would just be like, bro, what the hell? What the hell going on up here, bro? Like, the cafeteria options cooked like it wasn't like some. The just heated up. You know what I'm saying? Like in my high school, the food just heated up for sure. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't nobody. Yeah, a little bit. But like a lot of this it was. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like.

Brian (33:31)

But they cooking size more than anything.

Dr. Dot (33:33)

Yeah, exactly.

Brian (33:34)

Yeah. They just cooking like rice.

Dr. Dot (33:35)

Yeah, yeah, some like that. But like you could they. You.

Brian (33:38)

We.

Dr. Dot (33:39)

You would see the trucks when if you got a. Like me, I'd be out there early for like some type of practice. You'll see the Trucks. And you be like, okay, well, yeah, that's. They go, l. You know?

Brian (33:47)

Yeah, Cisco, like a.

Dr. Dot (33:48)

Exactly, exactly. So like you go, I would go to private school. And I see that, like, literally one day a week, we do like two a month. And we go up there like on Wednesday and just like take some classes up there. I don't know who I did that program was. It's actually a sick ass program. But we be up there trading places. Yeah, trading places. Like, bro. Like, no, no. And we'll be out there and I'd be like, damn. Getting like chicken. These niggas baked chicken. This is real. Like, I'm like, damn. So like, yeah, food. Food is like the big one. I would say for all the kids, like, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? I pack my son lunch every day, but everybody can't do that. You know what I'm saying?

Brian (34:23)

So, like, I don't even do that. Cause three kids like, well, see, only.

Dr. Dot (34:28)

One of them got lunch. My other kid.

Brian (34:30)

Yeah, baby. See, my baby, she like her lunch pack. And I don't argue with her about that. But the artist too, they be like.

Dr. Dot (34:36)

Nah, it should be straight tripping no more.

Brian (34:37)

They be like, man, this shit good.

Dr. Dot (34:39)

I can't wait till my son like that right now. He be like that.

Brian (34:42)

A lot of people will have an issue with that. Like, oh, do stuff for the black community or make sure the black community is this and that. And like, I think the thing is that people have to realize is like, if you intentionally destroy something, you have to be intentional about your repair. And I don't give a fuck what nobody else think about that. Right. Because my thing is this. Like, that's true. You got. You got places like, like Appalachia, right? You got white people there that's living poor than anybody else in this country.

Dr. Dot (35:12)

Yeah.

Brian (35:13)

But they take pride in like that type of poverty. Like, they like, we live off the grid. We don't trust the government. We are really rednecks. Like, we are intentional about not integrating ourselves. They're going indy, bro. And it's like, there ain't nothing to repair. Yeah, this is a. But like, like the whole concept of the hood for is like, I gotta get out. So why am I born into a circumstance I want to escape from? They have to be intentional. Yeah, you did what I'm saying, that.

Dr. Dot (35:42)

Is the big difference. I say, even with lighting, posting, like saying Appalachian, they're not trying to escape from that.

Brian (35:47)

They with it.

Dr. Dot (35:47)

Yeah. They're like, no, this is what I am. Bread and True. Blah, blah, blah.

Brian (35:51)

And it's like, I'm a shiner.

Dr. Dot (35:53)

Yeah.

Brian (35:53)

My granddaddy was a shiner. His granddaddy was a shot.

Dr. Dot (35:56)

Yeah. So they proud of that. These want to be goddamn. We want. We want it. Hopefully. What you. What we always trying to do is like, better than our parents, better than our parents, better than. You know what I'm saying? And that's cool. And that's. Everybody should want that to a degree. But like, we be. It's a little more life and death.

Brian (36:11)

But it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dr. Dot (36:14)

If you don't do better, you know, everything might also too.

Brian (36:18)

It's like, you think about the war on drugs. It's like, damn, man, my daddy smoked crack. Only thing I really gotta do to be better than him is not smoke crack.

Dr. Dot (36:28)

Cause damn.

Brian (36:29)

You see what I'm saying? And now you think about that on a large scale. How many daddies and mamas that's true for. And it's like celebration around just having a job. You did what I'm saying. I don't. When I was going to jail and shit all the time, bro, I had got a job driving a fort lift. And I'm like 22, 23 years old. And my auntie would be calling me like, I am so proud of you. I'm like, this is regular for these niggas, though. So like, damn, this shit gotta be. Y' all gotta take pride in a. Just making 12 an hour. And it's like, in the big scheme of things, I see why, but it's like, God damn, bro. The bar low.

Dr. Dot (37:07)

Yeah, yeah. It just show where the bar at, bro.

Brian (37:09)

The bar low. But it's also like, I didn't place the bar, though.

Dr. Dot (37:13)

What would you like to see your kids be? Not that you like telling their future, but like, if you just was life.

Brian (37:21)

I think for me is I would like. I would love for them to see success in life without having to be so visible.

Dr. Dot (37:26)

That's like. I'm saying I'm the same way I want.

Brian (37:29)

Because this level of visibility come with. And the thing is, I'm in the very beginning stages of it. I know it's gonna get crazy.

Dr. Dot (37:36)

Yeah, yeah.

Brian (37:37)

Cause we just went to eat and Shawty was like, oh, my God. She was like, we're gonna. She gave us an influencer discount. She was like, this just some shit we just made up. I was like, okay, fine, I'll take it.

Dr. Dot (37:51)

I was like, that hard.

Brian (37:52)

It wasn't $10 all the time, but I'll take the 10 you know what I'm saying? That 10 going into your tip.

Dr. Dot (37:58)

I feel you. I want my kids to be successful, like in tech or like science. That's like my big thing.

Brian (38:06)

Yeah. I want my. Yeah. I want them to have see academic success. Right. I think. But like, there's always a way of like when you coming out of poverty, it do come sometimes via sports and entertainment.

Dr. Dot (38:18)

I mean. Yeah. You gotta make a splash, bro. Unfortunately, that's like the fastest way to do it. And we gotta do it the fastest way. Cause we predicted to live the longest.

Brian (38:25)

Correct.

Dr. Dot (38:26)

That's how we always feel like, ah, we gotta do it fast, bro.

Brian (38:28)

Yeah. And I think for me it's like the big picture for me is like get my health all the way together. Like as far as like being intentional about every day, like feeling good, being mobile, being, you know, limber.

Dr. Dot (38:41)

Yeah.

Brian (38:41)

You know what I'm saying? Like that I really care about. I don't need like, not for vanity, but for like endurance.

Dr. Dot (38:45)

Yeah. Just for life.

Brian (38:46)

Just for life. You know what I'm saying? And then for my kids, it's like even like with my son, when I was telling he want to produce, it's like get good at it first. And then I could like easily use my network of connections and make you a Nepo, baby. Yeah, I'm going nipple on there.

Dr. Dot (39:03)

Better. It don't happen. It don't happen. Goddamn. 12, 12 generations for the. For them. For them folks, bro.

Brian (39:10)

Yeah, we talking about was inheriting the whole people. So you know what I'm saying? What's more Nepo than that?

Dr. Dot (39:17)

Exactly, bro.

Brian (39:18)

Like I'm gonna die. This grown woman belongs to you.

Dr. Dot (39:21)

This is your child. This is your woman.

Brian (39:22)

Your six year old. This is your woman.

Dr. Dot (39:25)

You do whatever you need to do.

Brian (39:26)

She gonna call you ma' am. And she's 60. Crazy.

Dr. Dot (39:30)

Crazy.

Brian (39:31)

So I don't want to hear nothing about no Nepo. Especially not black nepotism. I want black people to be as nepotitic as possible. I don't even know there's a word.

Dr. Dot (39:38)

Nepotitic.

Brian (39:39)

Yeah. Be nepotitic. You hear me?

Dr. Dot (39:41)

Nipple titty. You want to be the most you could be.

Brian (39:44)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (39:45)

I definitely want my kids, you know what I'm saying? I want them to be on the side of like having patents and like that.

Brian (39:50)

Like I'm type.

Dr. Dot (39:51)

Yeah, yeah. I'm not trying to.

Brian (39:52)

My middle son want to go to mit. That like the proudest thing in the world to me.

Dr. Dot (39:56)

Hell yet.

Brian (39:57)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (39:57)

Yeah. My son recently has been like showing a big interest in like you know what I'm saying? What makes a computer be a computer?

Brian (40:04)

And I'm like, okay, yeah, a little engineer.

Dr. Dot (40:06)

Yeah, like, do that, bro. I ain't gonna tell you.

Brian (40:08)

Stop.

Dr. Dot (40:09)

But he just, he. I be like, yeah, you know, he. He started off. He's kind of like started doing it on his own. Like, I ain't. I wasn't doing that. You know what I'm saying? Just one day he just. I saw him tinkering.

Brian (40:18)

What you think the biggest difference between how you were parented versus how you see yourself parenting?

Dr. Dot (40:23)

Oh, that's a man. That's a good question, bro. Because I ain't gonna hold you, bro. My parents was. Well, one thing. My parents was younger when they had me. They was both like my dad. Well, actually my dad was in and out of college. My mom was finishing college, so they was younger, but that was normal. Also back then it was the early 90s, so that's just what it was. But also they. I say the biggest difference they was. They was low key, locked in the whole time. Like, my parents is a Zone 3 love story. Like they. They met, you know what I'm saying? Leela Valley and Thomasville, back when that was like, Lila Valley was still the project them met back then. And they stayed together through school and everything. So I was. I was gonna have. So they. Are they still together now? Like, they. They rock. So I think that's the biggest thing with me. I got, you know, so I gotta. Had a. A girl pregnant, and that's how I got my son. And then I got my wife today. So it's a little bit just different with the dynamic, you know what I'm saying? Of like, you know what I'm saying? He still got another place he go to and hear a whole different set of, like, rules and, like, ways to live by. And he come back to my house and like, me and my girl, like, nah, this is like, these are our pillars, you know what I'm saying? That's like the biggest difference is like trying to raise kids unified when there isn't always unity, you know what I'm saying? That just is what it is. I feel like that's something that also, like I say my parents reflection is. My parents marriage is super reflection of the time. Like, back then you didn't get divorced. Like, they thought about it a bunch of times, but. And they tried a couple times, but they just. At the end of the day, like, I've known this too long. That's how they always be. Like, I know this thing Too long, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? So they just be going, you know what I'm saying? You be sticking out now. They 60. They just turned 60.

Brian (42:03)

So I'm like, oh, man.

Dr. Dot (42:04)

Yeah.

Brian (42:04)

Congratulations, bro. Like, I hate to congratulate a nigga on, like, parents having great marriage, but, like, that is a big thing.

Dr. Dot (42:11)

Stuck together, bro. They raised. They raised five boys, you know what I'm saying? All of us doing different shit. One of them passed my little cousins, my little brother Terrell. But for the most part, we all doing something, you know what I'm saying? My one brother, football coach. My other brother is. Goddamn, he the best of us. He was working for Google. Then he went to Bunch, and he said at the level, Bunch, he been, like, chasing, like, out of the he divorce. Like, I had to get out of.

Brian (42:35)

This.

Dr. Dot (42:37)

Work for Google. Then. Then now he working for a company that's, like, curing cancer. I'm like, he like, yeah, he the one.

Brian (42:42)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (42:43)

I'll be rapping, and I'll be, like, proud of myself. And I'm like, this actually the one. Like, he getting all the money. Like, that's my. That's my brother, too. So, like, my parents did their thing, you know what I'm saying? Like, they. They raised us in Chestnut Ridge for most of the time, you know what I'm saying? We seen. And they were just like, you know what I'm saying? Almost like how Kendrick folk was, like.

Brian (43:01)

You got a unified front, right? It's important.

Dr. Dot (43:03)

And that's the difference between what I've had for my son for a lot of his life. My oldest son, he. He seen, like, the worst, you know what I'm saying? Like, between me and. Me and his mom. So it's like seeing him. Seeing how that's kind of. Kind of person he is and how he, like, you know what I'm saying, responds to even seeing, like, a healthy relationship with my man. Now, I'd be like, yeah, no, this. I did this on purpose so you can see this. You know what I'm saying? I did this, so I did this. So y'.

Brian (43:28)

All.

Dr. Dot (43:28)

So you know it's possible.

Brian (43:34)

Yo, man, I. I think that one of the most important things is, like, understanding, like, what. What kind of, like, intentional parenting you want to do, even if you fall short, right? Like, you gonna miss the mark on that shit a lot of times. But my. My folks, my mom and them had, like, that fly of the handle energy, you know what I'm saying? My pops was, like, real reserved and stoic. So it's like, damn, bro, you ain't gonna say shit, bro. She tripping. But then you kind of think, like, you get older, you like, oh, she was tripping. Cause she was mad at him. That why he ain't saying shit.

Dr. Dot (44:11)

Yeah. You start to understand it. You start to get it.

Brian (44:14)

Yeah, yeah. But I think for me, it's like with my kids, it's just like, now I'm trying to find that balance of, like, what to say yes, what to say no to. Because, I mean, yucky is.

Dr. Dot (44:24)

You see 14s for real.

Brian (44:27)

Yeah, well, not even. Not even in that sense. I'm talking about, like, just socially, too, because you. I mean, you got experience with this now. Like, this. Even though we kind of control our creativity and our expression and our output and it's paying our bills, you still, like, gotta travel to make it happen sometimes. And, like, how. How is that for you is like, you know, parenthood, where it's like, I'm on the. The way that we eat is I gotta be gone on tour.

Dr. Dot (44:57)

That at first, obviously, wasn't that bad. My son's a baby. He ain't know nothing. It started hitting me when he started realizing. He started being like, so how long you gonna be gone this time? I'm like, how do you know how. How long time is? I'm like, what? Yeah, Tom exists. Like, it's like, damn, okay, well, yeah, I'm gonna be gone, you know, a couple weeks this time, gone a couple days this time. So once it started hitting like that, then now I'll be like, even. Like, now, like. Like, even today, bro. Literally, I was with the. We was outside, you know what I'm saying, playing football, whatever, and I'm like, I'm gonna go to work real quick. So I'm coming over here, like, whenever I'm going somewhere, do something, I'm going to work real quick and go to work real quick. He like, so how many days? I'm like, yo, I'm going. Literally, I'm be back tonight, bro. It was. It was difficult, and he has his difficulties, but also, you know what I'm saying? He gets it. And I brought him a couple places. Like, when I went to Japan, we had shown Japan last December, and I took him with me, and that changed that little life, bro. He was like, what? He's never been nowhere before, obviously, because he was seven at the time. And he was like, this is incredible. He's like, everything's so quiet. Like, everything's so, like, he's. It made me realize how loud Atlanta is because him just growing up in this city, he just think the world is this loud. And then we go over there. He's like that. He say all the time to leave me back there. Can we go back? Oh, I just missed the quiet. I was like, damn, I didn't even know you like quiet, bro.

Brian (46:11)

Like, bruh, you can't like quiet here.

Dr. Dot (46:13)

Yeah, exactly.

Brian (46:14)

You know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (46:14)

Like, it's a loud place.

Brian (46:16)

I think one of the biggest things, when I moved to Alabama, that was like, six years ago. Six, seven years ago. But I was like, God damn, it's quiet as fuck.

Dr. Dot (46:30)

I love that, bro.

Brian (46:32)

Yeah, at first, I hated it like, that going on. It didn't feel like. It didn't feel, like, active. And so, like, you asked, bro, like, I was back here, like, every other week because I only stayed, like, an hour and 30 away. So I'm back here every other week. Like, let's go to the studio. Let's go do this. Because I was rapping and. And after a while, I was like, man, Atlanta, I'm gonna stay. Like, it's quiet here. It ain't no traffic. Like, if I look at my GPS and they say eight minutes, it's eight minutes. It's not 30. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's like, really eight. And then also, it's just very simple. Like, once I kind of got accustomed to that simple life, I was like, man, I see how, like, time just slow up. Like, you know, in the city, it feel like if you ain't doing, you ain't doing with your life. You ain't. You know what I'm saying? You ain't having no emotion. You having no paper. But I think moving out here, it's like when I started the podcast, I was like, all right, if I'm had this going, I can't do it in Alabama. It ain't going on out here. I need to be close to where the action is. But if I was, like, never gonna go that meteor route, and I didn't, and that wasn't panning out and I was just still driving trucks, I'd have never left Alabama.

Dr. Dot (47:44)

You could even. I mean, the show getting big enough, you can really take it wherever you want, you know?

Brian (47:47)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (47:48)

Two of my favorite who I've seen how they live. One on the Internet, one in real life. JCole. And who the. Who made the. What's the song?

Brian (47:58)

Lenny Kravis.

Dr. Dot (47:59)

Lenny Kravis.

Brian (48:00)

Lindy Kravit. Living like Belize or something, bro.

Dr. Dot (48:02)

Yes. That Compound that. Compound where he just living and out in nothing.

Brian (48:08)

That's hard.

Dr. Dot (48:08)

That's. That's what I want, bro. Dave Chappelle also live like that. Cole also live like that. Like Colby living like this. This is my land, sir. Like, this is. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't. I don't give a. About none of that shit. I pop out when I need to, but like, nigga, I'm my best when I can think. So it's like, nigga, it's that like I. With this.

Brian (48:26)

That's why it's simple.

Dr. Dot (48:27)

That's my ultimate goal, honestly, is. Is to one, do at least one really big arena tour and two, is to have more land than my ancestors could imagine. Like, I'm trying to have like, sprawling amount of land. I'm gonna go the straight farmer route, you know what I'm saying? My girl, she. She a professor. She could do that from anywhere. So we got down, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to lock in on that type time, bro. I don't give a.

Brian (48:51)

About when you talk acres, though. You mean like, what, like 20, 50, 100?

Dr. Dot (48:55)

I mean, boozy got 88. I'm trying to beat that. Yeah, that 88. I looked at his too, also. I really like how Boosie pulled that off. He bought it. He bought it a little bit at a time, which is. You know what I'm saying? That made sense too. But like, he got, like I said belay. See, he had 88 last time I saw, like, God damn. You know what I'm saying? That's.

Brian (49:12)

I think.

Dr. Dot (49:13)

I think I will not be able to see the end of it.

Brian (49:16)

That part. Yeah, I think. Yeah. That's like long term for sure. Not even really long term, honestly. Like, soon as I get the right chick, it's like, need that. Give me that land and then we'll develop it over.

Dr. Dot (49:31)

Yeah, but I say I'll develop it to all the stuff I need.

Brian (49:34)

I'm gonna keep it real, though. I'm awesome. Like on some real like artsy fartsy. Like, like, I want to got down.

Dr. Dot (49:42)

Cabin like a big heaven. Or like one of the more little ones where you go, right, like the Secret Window.

Brian (49:49)

You seen the Secret Window with Johnny Depp? Well, he was the writer.

Dr. Dot (49:53)

I've seen a lot of movies like this.

Brian (49:55)

No, yeah, that what I'm saying.

Dr. Dot (49:56)

Like, it's a common trope, but it's a trope.

Brian (49:58)

But it's like, to me, I was like, that hard.

Dr. Dot (50:01)

It is hard.

Brian (50:01)

Yeah. Like you just go in town once a week, you got your dog, supposedly you got a gun.

Dr. Dot (50:06)

It's like.

Brian (50:07)

And then you just tight right locked in.

Dr. Dot (50:09)

Sorry, I just. That's really the best way.

Brian (50:11)

Oh man, life is just so rough. I just need to get away.

Dr. Dot (50:13)

Anybody. That's why I with 3000 so much. I mean, I with all these who like get super immersed, you know?

Brian (50:18)

Yeah, this like. Cause big boy got like owls and like I ain't never seen a have no owl before.

Dr. Dot (50:24)

Like, keep black whimsy alive, bro.

Brian (50:26)

Yeah, shout out my boy, man. Shout out my boy Admin Earth.

Dr. Dot (50:30)

Yeah.

Brian (50:30)

You know what I'm saying? The. The king of the whimsy, you know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (50:33)

Keep that alive, bro. We need more with just. You know what I'm saying? Willy Wonka ass lifestyles, bro.

Brian (50:39)

Like, bro, that just fire, bro.

Dr. Dot (50:41)

Deserve that, bro. We deserve that on so many levels. But we deserve the absolute display of free will that was not afforded to us generations past. Do what the you want.

Brian (50:51)

I'm telling. I already know what this gonna be like, bro. It's like 10 years. All this land, I'm gonna have a warehouse made of glass. It's gonna be climate controlled and it's gonna be like a creative compound.

Dr. Dot (51:09)

Sounds like it's gonna get. Am I saying most. Because it's gonna be.

Brian (51:14)

That's why the box. But why do we get the money? No, but I'm definitely talking. I'm definitely like hit a button. Yeah, close that off. You know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (51:23)

Feel perfect.

Brian (51:23)

Yeah, it gotta feel good in that at all times. I don't want to go greenhouse. I also don't think I want glass ceiling because it's like, that's just sunlight. The red. It ain't no climate you can control in that moment.

Dr. Dot (51:36)

Had a little, you know.

Brian (51:37)

Well, you can open it up. Yeah.

Dr. Dot (51:38)

Auto. I'm trying to go bunker. I'm trying to go you underground with it bunker, bro. I'm trying to have the most luxurious version of a bunker bunker. Yeah, that a person can have. I mean, you're never gonna be like Zuckerberg's bunker, which is supposed to be like carved into a mountain or some.

Brian (51:53)

Like that, but like insanity also. Like why you got all that money? Also like do be doing evil. Like the thing is, is like when you go super villain into the side of a mountain, it's because you're doing super villain, like stealing data.

Dr. Dot (52:09)

Stealing data, making humans fight, hunting for.

Brian (52:12)

Sport, like all type of wild.

Dr. Dot (52:15)

You know what I'm Saying fight club.

Brian (52:17)

Yeah, yeah.

Dr. Dot (52:18)

Very, very, like, eyes wide shit.

Brian (52:20)

Very eyes wise. Very, like, I'm gonna create a. AI like, generated stereotype racism, and I'm flooding the whole out with this. Just AI generated racism. You know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (52:37)

That actually, honestly, I hate to. I hate to be kind of, you know, cynical or callous, but that funny as to me, bro, that's the, the. The bots. When I begin on Twitter, I say, and then like, a random ass bottle be like, yeah. Cause you like watermelon. Like, he's no profile picture. Just a. Just saying some, Some. Okay, this actually is hilarious because, like, why is this. Y' all are that racist? Like, y' all just like, bruh, training.

Brian (53:03)

A robot to be racist is like, oh, no, you just like, you too far in the rabbit hole of racist.

Dr. Dot (53:07)

Yeah, like, you care way too.

Brian (53:09)

Yeah, you care way more than I ever will. The only thing I like to do is point out racism. I don't like to actively engage. I'm not thinking about white people like that.

Dr. Dot (53:16)

Do you think you have any racist beliefs?

Brian (53:20)

Probably. As far as.

Dr. Dot (53:23)

I don't know. I, I. It's so funny because I, I think that sometimes by myself, like, I'm probably racist, but, like, I don't know what I hate. Just off break. You know what I'm saying?

Brian (53:30)

Yeah. Just not out right out the rip. I really just. My son hate the treatment.

Dr. Dot (53:35)

Yes.

Brian (53:36)

And then it's like, in contrast, you hate me. You got all these flaws too. So I'm a point. I'm gonna hold that mirror. But like, every day, walking around, just.

Dr. Dot (53:44)

Like, belief system, I'm popping that off.

Brian (53:46)

Like, just like, I couldn't start no clan. I'm gonna say that because it's like, I don't give a. So, like, after, like, two meetings, we're gonna be like, bro, this shit really kind of lame.

Dr. Dot (53:55)

I'm gonna forget the first meeting, bro. I'll text this like, yo, black clan meeting in my house tonight, and not show up.

Brian (54:03)

After the second meeting, I'm just gonna be like, let's play something spades, bro. Like, really? I got all my out last me. I don't want to go do nothing to them.

Dr. Dot (54:13)

It would just turn to a support group, man.

Brian (54:15)

And then I got five.

Dr. Dot (54:18)

He just talks in a circle.

Brian (54:21)

Boss called me a nigga. I started drinking bad. Really? I'm an alcoholic. Exactly.

Dr. Dot (54:26)

It just turned to a whole different group.

Brian (54:28)

Yeah, cuz. It's like, I don't got. I ain't that miserable, bro. Yeah, that's something Like, I got life and shit. Like, I'm looking forward to, like, I love my life, bro. I love my children, bro. I love my friends. I love what I do. I don't got time to be really mad at nobody.

Dr. Dot (54:44)

But I think it don't even feel good to do. Like, why would I waste my time being mad?

Brian (54:48)

I'm not. Yeah. But I think, you know, the social awareness that I have in, like, the way I care about our community is just like a commandment for me. Like, you better be vigilant about the shit that going on in the world and be aware, you know what I'm saying? But I'm not going to stay in like a fugue state of racism or like anger. It's like, you know, I have an outlet for my frustrations. I'm a. I'm a use my outlet. But at the same time, my everyday walking life, I care more about loving on black people than hating white people.

Dr. Dot (55:19)

I feel that that's where I be at, bro. Like, and I see I don't know a lot of niggas who hate. Who just hate white people, like, for real, for. I don't know a lot of them, but I know, I know a lot more who care about, like, making us better.

Brian (55:32)

That's what, that's my whole thing. And I think that that's like, because in this society, like, white people caring about the white community mean hating other communities, that naturally the projection is gonna.

Dr. Dot (55:45)

Be that that's a super false equivalent. But they do believe that.

Brian (55:48)

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's a false equivalence because. But it's a projection of it. Because for them it's like, well, if you care about your community, it must be rooted in hate. For me, it's like, I ain't you, brother.

Dr. Dot (56:00)

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Even feeling like that, I don't even.

Brian (56:03)

Really much give a about you. I don't think about you.

Dr. Dot (56:05)

I hope you're good. Cause when you're not, everybody gets shot.

Brian (56:09)

You know what I'm saying? I can just kill each other in the streets. If two people kill each other in the street, I can almost guarantee you this got something to do with some money or an extreme amount of disrespect or something that somebody done let go on way too long where they like, you know what that I'm gonna kill that. You know what I'm saying? But I can never justify shooting up a church of strangers. That shit crazy.

Dr. Dot (56:34)

Shit crazy, bro.

Brian (56:35)

Yeah, it's psychopathy. But my Thing for me is, like, now I do keep a good slur in my tuck, though, for all other groups.

Dr. Dot (56:42)

See, I'm unfortunately. I love a good slur.

Brian (56:46)

I love a slur. Hey, man, I love a slur. I love a slur. You know what I'm saying? It got a good ring to it.

Dr. Dot (56:52)

I like words I want to say. Yeah, it's really. It's really just more of a word thing.

Brian (56:55)

Like, it's a word thing.

Dr. Dot (56:57)

I like slurs. I like palindromes, you know?

Brian (56:59)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (57:00)

I like a lot of different.

Brian (57:01)

I'm a big fan of alliteration and on the monopia. You know what I'm saying? I like all this. I just like literary devices.

Dr. Dot (57:07)

Exactly.

Brian (57:08)

If you say something to me crazy, I know all the slurs, I'mma hit you with one. I got in trouble for it, but it is what it is. They got over it.

Dr. Dot (57:15)

Yeah.

Brian (57:15)

You know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (57:16)

But I feel like I call nobody a slur. Well, no, I've called. I'll see a crack.

Brian (57:19)

I called somebody a slur on Twitter because he called me a nigga.

Dr. Dot (57:22)

Yeah.

Brian (57:23)

And I was like, oh, this is not fair. We're not gonna slur for slur. It's cool when they do it.

Dr. Dot (57:28)

Yeah. And sometimes I boo.

Brian (57:30)

Boo. You niggas are sore losers.

Dr. Dot (57:34)

What did you say? Cause I feel like cracking. Don't really affect me.

Brian (57:36)

No, I call her misconduct nigga. I call him a beaner.

Dr. Dot (57:38)

Oh, that's. That's.

Brian (57:40)

Woo.

Dr. Dot (57:41)

You took it there.

Brian (57:43)

Oh, they had me all over. Everywhere. Like, deontay. Kyle says beaner. I was like, I mean, come on. But y' all not gonna take the part where he called me a nigga. Yeah, I don't care if he said it with an A.

Dr. Dot (57:52)

Exactly.

Brian (57:52)

He said it. He shouldn't have said it.

Dr. Dot (57:54)

Yeah, cuz, if I say. If I say that with an A. If I said, that's so crazy. I didn't know that was a slur until I dated a Mexican girl. And she was like, yeah, this. I went to a bar and this lady called us beaners. I was like, what? What is that? She was like, it's a slur. You're not supposed to say that. I didn't even know about that, bro.

Brian (58:11)

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not in my everyday vocabulary, but, like, as a. As a way. As an equivalent measure. You hurt me with words, I'm gonna hurt you. A word that's equivalent measure.

Dr. Dot (58:20)

Yeah.

Brian (58:21)

I thought we were square, but it is what it is. I also think that this was in a time where everybody was like, really loving on me and so, like, was just looking for something to try to tear me down. It ain't work.

Dr. Dot (58:31)

But that's gonna always happen too, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, the more of those you survive, the more big, you know, the bigger you get.

Brian (58:37)

Yeah. It is what it is. I mean, Mexicans love saying.

Dr. Dot (58:40)

They do. They do.

Brian (58:41)

I don't know why, but they do love it.

Dr. Dot (58:43)

I know why. I know why everybody loves saying it bro. Cause it's just phonetically fun to say bro.

Brian (58:48)

Like, it's a great. It's a great word.

Dr. Dot (58:49)

I'm gonna say that if it's in so many, what places of the conversation. It. It can. If you so many emotions can be used for that.

Brian (58:56)

It's. It's a. It's an all encompassing now, bro.

Dr. Dot (58:58)

It's one of. It's one of the best words.

Brian (59:01)

It is. Honestly, I. I'm glad we put the A on it. You know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (59:06)

Yeah.

Brian (59:07)

How we use it. But I will say this amongst friends and, and. And close company. I will hit one of my close friends with a hard R, you know what I'm saying? Just because it's hilarious.

Dr. Dot (59:17)

He know how I be, bro. On tour, if niggas is on shit, then I'm like, oh, hard R. I'm hard R'd, bro. What?

Brian (59:24)

Because sometimes. Because sometimes it's like.

Dr. Dot (59:27)

Just sometimes it's warranted.

Brian (59:28)

It's one sometimes like, bro, you on hard R activity right now.

Dr. Dot (59:31)

Yes.

Brian (59:31)

Yeah. And also like, that is like the way that I look at cooning. Like, if you a coon, you a hard artery.

Dr. Dot (59:38)

You ever been called a coon?

Brian (59:39)

No.

Dr. Dot (59:40)

I got caught a coon one time. I was.

Brian (59:43)

I've been called. I've been called.

Dr. Dot (59:47)

Well, I got caught soon. Twice, actually.

Brian (59:48)

I've been. I've panderer because I love and support black women. And. Yeah, they can always say that though. Also maybe. No, never. Coon, though. Never. Cool. I know.

Dr. Dot (59:58)

Every time.

Brian (59:59)

Oh.

Dr. Dot (60:02)

Let me say them quickly. One, I was in Tennessee and literally two white guys called me a coon. They said I was the ugliest coon they ever seen.

Brian (60:10)

That's crazy.

Dr. Dot (60:11)

Damn. I don't know. They definitely wanted to fight. And the lady told me to leave before I was at a bar. And the lady was like, you probably should go. And I was like, what? I'm chilling. I was being super green. I was like, well, I'm chilling, bruh. And she Was like, okay. And then, goddamn, they called me a coon and a nigger as I walked out the door. The second time we did some little for Kamala Harris and some black people.

Brian (60:33)

Call me a coon.

Dr. Dot (60:35)

I've been called coon on both sides.

Brian (60:38)

You've experienced the coon spectrum.

Dr. Dot (60:43)

I was in eighth grade. I did a. I did. Oh, no. Ninth grade, I got selected to do a conference. I was. I did a lot of like, speech competitions, and that's how I got scholarships. And I did speech competition. And then one of the competitions, I started talking kind of loud, giving my speech, and N was like, oh, he a coon. And I was like, damn. I just thought I was being emphatic, bro. I thought I was.

Brian (61:04)

I thought I was being.

Dr. Dot (61:04)

Trying to get a scholarship, nigga. I thought I was being passionate.

Brian (61:07)

But they like, look at you trying to sell yourself to the white people.

Dr. Dot (61:09)

That's what niggas was.

Brian (61:10)

Coon ass nigga.

Dr. Dot (61:11)

Damn, bro.

Brian (61:12)

Like, you know, the thing is, the kun is a slippery slope. I think if it's like, if you're not radically pro black or you a little bit more compromising in some of your stances, then of course the radical pro black people gonna be like, this nigga's a coon. But I think sometimes the things we call a coon is just a nigga being reasonable given the circumstances.

Dr. Dot (61:36)

It definitely was on the.

Brian (61:38)

It don't have to be on the.

Dr. Dot (61:39)

Friday when the niggas was like, get off my grass. That nigga wasn't tripping, bro. We caught that nigga coon.

Brian (61:44)

Yeah, but it's like, this is my yard, bro. Like, I'm putting down time and care and effort into maintain this lawn amongst this savagery, bro. And then you got breaking in my houses and, like, I just want you stay on my grass.

Dr. Dot (61:58)

That's all, bro.

Brian (61:59)

Like, that's not too much to ask for, bro. Actually, you are just disrespectful, you know what I'm saying? But I think for me, yeah, you know, I think some of my politics is like, very left leaning. So of course, like, I remember one time caught me, like, and he said he's bought and paid for by the dnc. I was like, I wish. Do you think I'd be potting food as soon as that Lockheed Martin check clear, I'm done with you. You know what I'm saying? Now, Now I'm gonna have a whole podcast about the war machine, brother. You know what I'm saying? And how to give Middle Eastern countries American freedom Yeah.

Dr. Dot (62:34)

You just turned that off.

Brian (62:36)

Yeah, I'm trying to get that oil, bro. You know what I'm saying? Trying to get that oil. But it's like, jokingly. But it's just like, bro, I don't actually trust the government at all. So how can you call me paid for by anybody? I don't even with these.

Dr. Dot (62:48)

But that. That's just what happens when it's more visibility, bro. People gotta doubt it. They gotta doubt the reason behind the visibility.

Brian (62:54)

Yeah. You know, I was having a conversation with somebody that's also in the creator space, and they was like, saying how, you know, they was like, well, sometimes I am very like this and like that. And like, sometimes I do, like, tailor my message towards my audience. I was like, I just be saying how I feel. How about to say, bro, I was like, oh, okay. Y' all just not used to showing up and being themselves. So it's like, we don't know what they look like. So it have to be something because at the end of the day, somebody a lot of are performative and doing.

Dr. Dot (63:28)

But it's like everybody else.

Brian (63:30)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (63:31)

They selling, like, a set of emotions as their product.

Brian (63:34)

Yeah, see, like, man, listen, bro, And I, you know, I tell my. To my. To my girl, this. Like, when you thinking, like, this whole long thought out, manipulative process, it's like, you give me way too much credit, baby. I don't even think that far ahead, man. I be forgetting Preach.

Dr. Dot (63:50)

Cause I definitely don't be.

Brian (63:51)

I promise you. Like, I'm not this methodical about making you mad. I just up, for real. Like, it wasn't that much to it, man list, like, but also, I think for. For, like, girls, it's like there has to be something more. It's like, that's just you.

Dr. Dot (64:07)

That's how they be in their friendships too, though. And not the. Not the.

Brian (64:10)

No, I love women, but no, they be.

Dr. Dot (64:13)

They be.

Brian (64:14)

They be poking.

Dr. Dot (64:15)

Yes. Their friendship just have a lot more layers, which, honestly is. Is a. It's a beautiful thing I'm gonna say. It's more of a. Of a. Of a shine on their complexity. And they can pull that off because me and my friendships be like, bro, you in the game. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Brian (64:28)

Yeah, bro. Like. Like, I got people that I call friends. I don't even know their mama name, bro.

Dr. Dot (64:32)

Oh, God, bro. I got half the niggas I played on PlayStation with, I invited to my wedding, bruh. I do be on the game with y' all niggas all the Time get married.

Brian (64:41)

I think there's a beauty in, like, the simplicity of male friendships, and. Which is why, like. Which breeds longevity also, like, niggas is super simple. It's like, I'm not offended that you ain't think to ask. Cause I ain't think to ask straight up, bro. You know what I'm saying? But I think, well, girl, my nigga.

Dr. Dot (64:57)

Tell me happy birthday six months later. I appreciate that. You know that shit bad, but, you know it's all love and explain.

Brian (65:04)

It's love, bro.

Dr. Dot (65:05)

Yeah. You thought to say that shit.

Brian (65:06)

It's like, it hit you out the blue. Like, damn, bro, my bad. Happy birthday. It's like, that's thoughtful.

Dr. Dot (65:11)

That's thoughtful. Yeah, that was. That's how I was a man. I'm saying, like, damn, that's thoughtful. That's so funny. I be having this conversation with my girl. Cause she be telling me about her friendships with her girls and shit. And I be like, you know, it could be easier. She be like, yeah, that's because y'.

Brian (65:21)

All don't have a standard. I was like, y' all let anything fly.

Dr. Dot (65:26)

Exactly.

Brian (65:26)

You don't hold your friends accountable. It's like, I do, but it's like, it ain't dramatic at it.

Dr. Dot (65:30)

Yeah, yeah. Because if a do some lame, I'm.

Brian (65:33)

Be like, hey, bro, like, straight so pe game. Like, I was out with one of my homies one time, and he was a little drunk, and he was in this girl face, and I could tell that she was annoyed by him. And I was like, bro. I was like, bro, you want to go smoke? He's like, yeah, hell yeah. And so I pulled him away from the crowd. I was like, hey, stop being weird with the girls, bro. You being weird. You're making uncomfortable. I was like, shan interested. Just let that be. And he was like, for real, bro.

Dr. Dot (66:03)

Some have to be told that.

Brian (66:04)

He was like. He was like, brian, I ain't even peeped that. I was like, yeah, bro. Like, came to vibe. Everybody came to have a good time. She didn't come to be harassed by you, brother. Like, she not interested. Move the on. And also, you drunk. Drink some water and cool out, bro. Like, play the back.

Dr. Dot (66:23)

Play the back.

Brian (66:24)

And then we. And then it's like, if you want to fight the blunt, though, we can. But, like, I ain't even come out here to smoke. I just not going. And really, I'm not going to embarrass you because niggas got ego. So it's like, the second you feel played, you Going to take it to the next level.

Dr. Dot (66:34)

Exactly. But also, you know, as. As your dog. I'm telling you this because I don't want you getting embarrassed.

Brian (66:40)

I don't want to. Yeah. Because if she go up top with you real quick, bro, and I'm not like, I can't defend you. This a woman. I got to tell you to cool out, and you gonna feel played already. So then it's a whole lot of things. It's just like. It's just ways to do that. And it's also, like, ain't holding no grudge on that. Like a Be like, you was all right.

Dr. Dot (67:02)

I appreciate that, bro.

Brian (67:03)

Man, that's real, bro. You're a real bro. You put me to the side, bro. You're like, man, most try. They gotta talk about that. Ain't never happened. Most try to embarrass you, bro. You don't know that for no fact.

Dr. Dot (67:14)

You don't never.

Brian (67:15)

That's never happened to you. It's like a nigga just can't believe. Like, damn, bro, I'm being lying right now. But it's like, we all possess these qualities, right? Like, I don't tell nobody. Like. Like, the thing is. Is, like, you ever seen a movie? Get him to the Greek.

Dr. Dot (67:30)

Yes.

Brian (67:30)

You remember when he was like, I'm not saying I'm the savior. Like, that's for other people to say, but I am the savior. That's like, how I feel about real nigga. Like, I'm not gonna say I'm no real nigga. Somebody think I'm a fuck nigga. Yes. But, like, I ain't gonna deny if another, like, he a real.

Dr. Dot (67:45)

Like, you damn right.

Brian (67:46)

You heard it, man. Hey, hey. Raised by some real ones. Yeah, I think that's just like, a whole complexity of it, too. It's like, you out of here, white man. All right. Be easy, bro. All right. Hold it down. You said my boy. He got a whole cassette.

Dr. Dot (68:03)

That's just hard.

Brian (68:04)

Gangster. I with it. I like everything about it.

Dr. Dot (68:08)

Very artsy.

Brian (68:09)

Very artsy.

Dr. Dot (68:09)

That's what we need more of that. The culture I love. I love when New York be saying culture, bro. I hate it because it's like, also, I love this.

Brian (68:19)

What's your favorite city?

Dr. Dot (68:20)

My favorite city outside of Atlanta. Atlanta, of course, in the world. I gotta say Joburg. South Africa.

Brian (68:27)

Tight. Cause, man, I never been out of country.

Dr. Dot (68:31)

Oh, man.

Brian (68:31)

Next year, though, for sure.

Dr. Dot (68:32)

Where you going? Where you going first? First. Where you want to go first and where you going first?

Brian (68:37)

Three places I want to go Is Ghana Tokyo, Jamaica, Tokyo, and Belize.

Dr. Dot (68:46)

Tokyo, you're gonna want to stay forever. So go there last because you. You want to stay, bro. When I was in Tokyo, bro, I was like, man, I quit smoking. I never had a thought. Weed. I feel good as hell over here.

Brian (69:01)

Bro.

Dr. Dot (69:01)

So peaceful, bro. Like, actually, bro, I'm gonna come up and like, bro, waking up early as old people exercising in the park together. Oh, this is just like. This is how. This is how life's supposed to be.

Brian (69:10)

Yeah, they just got it figured out.

Dr. Dot (69:12)

So figured out. South Africa. Bad as hoes in my life I've ever seen. I wasn't even out there going crazy because I just was just out there enamored, bro. I was just like, damn, these women are gorgeous, bro. Like, some of the baddest women you going to look at ever. You just going to be like, what, you just work here? You not like nothing. You're not like a thing. Like, over here, you. In America, you would be like, 500 up.

Brian (69:35)

Like, yeah, you'll be making like. You're making like, 300k a year as a bottle girl.

Dr. Dot (69:39)

Exactly, bro. What? You just don't. You just. You work at. You just chilling over here, like, what, at the gas station? You gorgeous, right?

Brian (69:49)

Like, see, this is how American get got, though, because be like, I wife, you, I'll take.

Dr. Dot (69:55)

But that's what. Honestly, that's what be doing. And that's why they get, you know, saying labeled his passport bros and all that. I'm not a passport, bro. But if you want to be that, be that, bro. Like, I'm like, hey, man, well, a.

Brian (70:05)

Passport boy, is really just sex tourism.

Dr. Dot (70:07)

Okay. Yeah, if you on there, just. Just purchasing.

Brian (70:10)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dr. Dot (70:11)

Okay.

Brian (70:12)

Yeah, like, Password, bro, is really just like, you go abroad to buy.

Dr. Dot (70:15)

Oh, okay. I thought it was go. Go abroad to, like, fall for something.

Brian (70:19)

No, no, no, no. That's just international love.

Dr. Dot (70:22)

How about I say, cuz, if you fall in love.

Brian (70:26)

Because why was they going for the.

Dr. Dot (70:27)

For the cheap. I knew cheap.

Brian (70:30)

You know what I'm saying? $20.

Dr. Dot (70:33)

Greatest, amazing.

Brian (70:40)

Best I ever had. Amazing, Superior.

Dr. Dot (70:43)

Columbia. You got to go down. You got to go down there. All right.

Brian (70:46)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (70:48)

I'm gonna have to tell you after Mic.

Brian (70:49)

I'm gonna call you. I'm gonna call you with some. For some recommendations.

Dr. Dot (70:52)

Colombia.

Brian (70:53)

Yeah, I'm.

Dr. Dot (70:54)

I'm. I'm in with some folks down there, bro.

Brian (70:56)

You have a. I ain't gonna lie, man. I'm gonna say this because y' all know me, and y' all know my History. When I go to South America, I'm doing some cocaine.

Dr. Dot (71:05)

Greatest cocaine.

Brian (71:07)

Greatest cocaine.

Dr. Dot (71:08)

I'm talking about. I'm talking about.

Brian (71:10)

I'm just letting y' all know. Y' all know my history. I'm not ashamed of who I am. I've been clean for a long time. But I'm telling you, it's like. It's like.

Dr. Dot (71:18)

I'm be honest with you, bro.

Brian (71:19)

It's like going to Tokyo and not eating sushi. Like, what the.

Dr. Dot (71:22)

I'm being honest with you. It's so good. It's.

Brian (71:27)

I love this, bro. This he is me and I am him. How old are you?

Dr. Dot (71:33)

I just turned 35.

Brian (71:34)

Oh, I'm 35. Me too. When your birthday?

Dr. Dot (71:36)

October 25th.

Brian (71:37)

Mine? July 4th.

Dr. Dot (71:39)

You a cancer?

Brian (71:40)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cat that make you. Oh, yeah.

Dr. Dot (71:44)

Twin water science, Big water energy, Wavy boys.

Brian (71:47)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of cocaine.

Dr. Dot (71:49)

But, yeah, bro, I was over there. I was. I remember first time I somewhere, I was like, bro, this got to be off a caterpillar back. This is so pure, bro. I was like. I was like, this is. And then we got the mic. I tell you who's with they. We was. It was the best. And it was cheap, and it was like. It was no nothing I had to worry about. No, I ain't have to worry about. It was like. It was like the coke they. That they put in Coca Cola back when they first made.

Brian (72:12)

It's like. It's like eating a coconut off a tree.

Dr. Dot (72:14)

Yes.

Brian (72:15)

It ain't been touched.

Dr. Dot (72:15)

And it wasn't no crash. It wasn't no. Like, I didn't feel like, I didn't feel none of that. I didn't feel cocaine, sir. Like, it was no. It was no after effects. I slept well, sound like, but I just had a good time.

Brian (72:29)

And then I think that's the biggest thing for me is, like, as I've gotten older, it's like you just do things on occasion, and then you keep pushing with your life. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (72:39)

Nothing. Like, I literally, like most only I'm gonna do too is making music now that I be. That gives me a high that nothing could ever give me. So I'm gonna do that.

Brian (72:46)

I'm suffering with, like, one addiction right now. It's like Red Bull watermelon. And I don't even gotta have it every day. It's just like my favorite.

Dr. Dot (72:53)

I got two empty Celsiuses in my car from today.

Brian (72:55)

That's my thing, though. It's like, I'm gonna Keep it a big though. I'm gonna tell you what it is. It's not the energy. It is the energy because that's what I'm putting in my body. It's not the caffeine. I literally just like how Red Bull tastes.

Dr. Dot (73:09)

That's different because most people don't. I don't like where I.

Brian (73:13)

It's a lot. That's why Sonic had a whole brother drink with that. I love how that tastes a lot.

Dr. Dot (73:19)

It's so crazy.

Brian (73:19)

I don't know what it is.

Dr. Dot (73:20)

Y' all ever seen the little. It's like a little. Like a little YouTube documentary on. On the original recipe of Red Bull. Basically, bro. Like, this is some dude who's like. He worked for, like, marketing in a lot of, like, drink companies before he lost his job. He, like, 50 something years old. He goes to Thailand and just has somebody gave him some at, like, a little, like, look market he was at in Thailand. He's like, damn, I'm f to take this and, like, run with it. But a lot of.

Brian (73:43)

Was he white?

Dr. Dot (73:44)

You already know, but.

Brian (73:46)

But damn it. They can't help them.

Dr. Dot (73:48)

They can't help theyself. They can't help themselves. So he brought it back here. And at first.

Brian (73:52)

You know what? At some point, you just gotta love them.

Dr. Dot (73:54)

Yeah. Because it's like, you can't help. They don't do that. And you gotta think. I mean, if you. If you came from caves, that's what you got.

Brian (74:00)

I mean, they come from scarcity. So it's like it's embedded. Like, I have to steal.

Dr. Dot (74:03)

Yeah.

Brian (74:05)

Yes. Yeah. Rebrand the real. Not reinventing it, but they rebrand. It's not a wheel, it's a weed.

Dr. Dot (74:11)

He was saying when he first. Nobody wanted it because the flavor was so bad, but he was like, they will. And now I'm listening to you talk about how that.

Brian (74:21)

Oh, no, this had a prophecy. My. I'm telling you, he's a prophet. Because that is amazing, bro.

Dr. Dot (74:26)

That's crazy. It is.

Brian (74:29)

It's based on, like, ginseng and, like.

Dr. Dot (74:31)

That concoction they had going out there. And he. My brother back. And then he.

Brian (74:35)

And they came.

Dr. Dot (74:36)

It wasn't carbonated at first, and then he. Carbonated.

Brian (74:38)

No, he did it. Big one with the carbonation. I'm not gonna lie. He went so crazy when he did that. He took that north. Because I'm telling you, I kombucha.

Dr. Dot (74:47)

Kombucha.

Brian (74:48)

Not really, but I don't even know. I'm gonna keep it a beano. I Don't even know what they did for real. Like, I know what it is. I just. I had a little sip of one, I was like, this is disgusting.

Dr. Dot (74:57)

It's pretty gross. But now that's something that I like better than Red Bull crazy.

Brian (75:00)

See, and that's another thing too, is that acquired taste. Like, I ain't like beer when I first drank it.

Dr. Dot (75:05)

I don't like beer.

Brian (75:06)

A Chris, A Chris, a cold beer, man. That'll change our day. You know what I'm saying? I don't drink beer. Yeah, see this thing too about like when you just hang out in the hood, like, ain't just buying bottles because it. It's more cost effective to buy a big ass case of beer because it's eight out here drinking them. So it just makes sense. You want some King of the hill, but like, after a while, you bro, I hate beer because it's like I'm drinking with D every day. This loser. Like, we just out here like, I got a lawn chair, no lawn on the concrete. Like, I'm a loser. But I also like sell drugs every day. So it's like I just ain't got nothing better to do but stand on the shade tree and drink beer and sell drugs. But after you get past that, it's like beer just shade tree.

Dr. Dot (75:56)

Some real Georgia too, bro. I ain't gonna hold you, bro. We used to have a shade tree that was. That was outside of Maze, that was every know new to go there after school.

Brian (76:04)

It's just a play. It's just a play, you know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (76:07)

Earth Game, Loki. We would be freestyling on the shade tree. And then was like, all right, bro, maybe we should get there and do some shows. He started doing Crucial. It was out of here. We was doing Crucial.

Brian (76:16)

You went crazy.

Dr. Dot (76:17)

Yeah, saving up. We would call GR Street. We had got that number. We annoy the out there, bro. He like, it's these two kids, bro. They always calling me bro. And then we would pull up on that gr. Bro. They do this from the Shade Tree to Crucials.

Brian (76:33)

Is that when you felt like when you started doing shows in Crucial, you was like, this is what I'm gonna do the rest of my life.

Dr. Dot (76:38)

Yeah. And you know how I knew? Because I'll say the first 15 times we did Crucial was hating that. Like, they ain't with it at all. And I didn't give a. I'm like, whatever.

Brian (76:51)

I love this.

Dr. Dot (76:53)

And we young into him like, so 17, 18, bro. Like literally making music with all type of Radical ass. Like, I'm like, ah, ah. You know what I'm saying? Like, it wasn't really. It was more rapping than hook. It was just like, I'm just like, I just want to get on stage and kill this. Like, yeah. And would be like, boo Tom at the time. And I was like, nigga, I remember.

Brian (77:16)

One time I performed in Queen City and I. And like, the song was super woke. The song was called all for the Money.

Dr. Dot (77:23)

Oh, yeah. They was using that blowing n high.

Brian (77:26)

N is like, man. And the bitch, the bitch right here stripping next to me. I was like, a nigga kill his own brother off of the money. N like, man, get in.

Dr. Dot (77:41)

Fuck nigga off the stage, bro.

Brian (77:43)

I'm in here pimping, bro. This nigga fucking the vibe, boy. And then I got off stage, got me a $5 loud dance. Yes, sir. That bitch left a stain on my jeans. I was like, we gotta get up out of here. It's Queen City. Just a little Atlanta lure. Right under the bridge.

Dr. Dot (77:59)

Right under the bridge. But I'm five out dancing, bro. I took my partner there when he turned 22 or something like that. It's my most virgin homie. And I was like, hey, man, I'm just tired of you being such a virgin.

Brian (78:12)

It's starting to affect your brain. I don't want you to be no incel.

Dr. Dot (78:16)

It's getting weird.

Brian (78:18)

You ain't getting no pussy.

Dr. Dot (78:20)

Start turning to an incel. Some like, we got to get this out the house. We got to get this. He like a super like music prodigy. I've always known, like, we gotta get this.

Brian (78:29)

See, that's what used to do for each other, man. We used to be like, you know what? I'mma buy you some, bro.

Dr. Dot (78:35)

And I ain't even buying no, because it's cuz.

Brian (78:37)

It's like cuz. Cuz without it. Cuz without it, you going to start acting weird.

Dr. Dot (78:42)

Going to start getting weird, bro.

Brian (78:43)

You know what I'm saying? You ain't following biology. You hacking.

Dr. Dot (78:46)

Exactly. You hacking, but you're not a hack.

Brian (78:47)

You hacking. You ain't no hacker.

Dr. Dot (78:49)

You're hacking, but you are not a hacker.

Brian (78:50)

No, listen, you hacking. You hacking your biology, right? Now your body want to.

Dr. Dot (78:56)

And now you. And now you quote, unquote, hate women, but you ain't.

Brian (78:59)

And this doing something to your mind. Exactly.

Dr. Dot (79:01)

Now you think you hate something that you.

Brian (79:03)

And now, now it's manifested in mass on the Internet. And it's just like, man, bro, do you know how much some coochie would just solve 80 of the problems of these online, bro.

Dr. Dot (79:12)

I mean, honestly. Honestly, bro. Like, honestly, man.

Brian (79:16)

Power of the pussy, man. Is powerful, bro. Bro, why do you think I'm cool, bro?

Dr. Dot (79:20)

Yeah, niggas needs a coochie, bro.

Brian (79:22)

Like, I'm not cool and level headed because this, because, man, my ball is empty, man.

Dr. Dot (79:28)

Think about this.

Brian (79:31)

I'm cool, bro. Like I'm scrape what I'm stressing. Why? Why I hate why hate why I hate the thing I love.

Dr. Dot (79:38)

They say, they say not going to sleep is like. Like if you're gonna go sleep for two nights, it's like six nights of drinking. Like your mind is there.

Brian (79:45)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (79:45)

If you're not busting nuts, you're not going to sleep. Is crazy. Niggas is sleep deprived. Like is really goddamn like not goddamn like the coochie make you sleep, bro.

Brian (79:56)

It's going to put you to bed.

Dr. Dot (79:58)

Exactly, bro. To sleep.

Brian (80:00)

It's nature's melatonin.

Dr. Dot (80:01)

All incels need to go to sleep.

Brian (80:03)

You feel them because you got to think. It's a lot of blue light radiation.

Dr. Dot (80:07)

Yes. You just awake. You just awake.

Brian (80:10)

You fry, bro.

Dr. Dot (80:11)

And then also when be having like mental breakdown and them don't be going to sleep, you go to sleep.

Brian (80:16)

Just go to sleep, bro. And also like all that masturbating, bro. You know what I'm saying? It just ain't it. It don't hit the sign.

Dr. Dot (80:23)

It ain't. You ain't sleeping.

Brian (80:24)

You know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (80:24)

Wake up and do that again.

Brian (80:32)

You're not real.

Dr. Dot (80:33)

You're not here. You're not here. Yeah.

Brian (80:36)

You know what I'm saying, bro?

Dr. Dot (80:37)

You might take a.

Brian (80:38)

A nice little sesh don't put you to bed for real.

Dr. Dot (80:42)

And that's with every animal.

Brian (80:44)

And that's the way God intended it, bro. It's not. We not saying nothing crazy. This is the way God intended this.

Dr. Dot (80:49)

Literally. Lions are doing it right now.

Brian (80:51)

Go look at the line. Gorillas go look at the line. A depressed line. Ain't, ain't. Listen, the women, the women in the line in the pride is decided this we not passing these genetics on. And that is happening to you in mass. And that's why you're losing your mind. You're not good for the pride.

Dr. Dot (81:09)

Yeah, but then what's going.

Brian (81:10)

But you still have opinions and that's the part.

Dr. Dot (81:12)

Yeah. What's gonna happen to that? Like I want to see. I want to get killed. Yeah, I know.

Brian (81:17)

Yeah. But, but, but, but, but, but in America they get paid.

Dr. Dot (81:21)

Yeah.

Brian (81:22)

Because there's no reason why I should know who the Ben Shapiro is. I, I, I really Cartoon villain. Put that head in the toilet.

Dr. Dot (81:30)

What's so crazy about them niggas too? Like for example, a Ben Shapiro type figure. You famous.

Brian (81:36)

Get some pussy with that. Yeah, but it ain't about that for him. At some point.

Dr. Dot (81:40)

At that point, yeah, you are.

Brian (81:42)

I'm the smartest person in the world and everybody respects my opinion. And this is Judeo Christian way of doing things. Shut the fuck up. I would kick you down a flight of stairs.

Dr. Dot (81:50)

Also being the smartest person in the world. Like I don't even sound like a vibe.

Brian (81:55)

Actually, actually I want to stay far away from that. What do you mean smartest person in the world? What do you mean you like what do you do with that?

Dr. Dot (82:00)

Exactly. Imagine how lonely the smartest monkey is. He just eating bananas.

Brian (82:09)

For that. That ain't even good for you, bro.

Dr. Dot (82:11)

You ain't doing for you, bro.

Brian (82:12)

We really supposed to really. Our ancestors used to eat coconuts.

Dr. Dot (82:15)

Yeah, exactly, man. That's too much bro.

Brian (82:20)

You got to get the H3O when start. I'm telling you bro, it's just like, it's just like you ever, you ever go. I like, I like being a little bit stupid. It bro.

Dr. Dot (82:30)

You ever be be over at Tillies, you got to go to Sil if you just you been toil. Yeah. Well I say for one thing what that is. It's a. It's like a super raw vegan restaurant in Atlanta. It's low key, old as like Badu used to go there when she lived here type.

Brian (82:49)

I ain't going to heard you. I had it before.

Dr. Dot (82:50)

Yeah.

Brian (82:51)

Somebody brought it to a studio.

Dr. Dot (82:52)

You got to go, you got to go there.

Brian (82:54)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (82:54)

Just to have that like you gotta go in that, bro. Yeah, bro. Just for experience. Because I ain't gonna hold you. I I do with it. I would say this just as an honest as a cousin to cousin. The price is too high and the service is not good. But you gonna hear some woke facts that you ain't never.

Brian (83:12)

But see I need like that that's the thing, bro. It's like bruh, you know what I'm saying? What's the what's the balance? You know what I'm saying? What's the cost effectiveness?

Dr. Dot (83:20)

You gonna hear. You gonna hear say something that you like. I have never heard that combination of words.

Brian (83:25)

I'm the first of my. I'm the first in my line.

Dr. Dot (83:28)

What the. I'm staying this line.

Brian (83:32)

Look, this the thing like, don't understand the value of Waffle House. It's not about the food.

Dr. Dot (83:38)

No.

Brian (83:38)

It's not about. It's not even about the service. It's just the environment, bro. It's the vibe. It's the vibe. Really. You could see this is the thing that don't understand. There's not a lot of place you can go and be ignorant and nobody give a fuck you did what I'm saying. It's almost control ignorance, too. Because you don't want to do too much. Because you don't want to be the nigga to fuck the Waffle House vibe up.

Dr. Dot (83:57)

Exactly. You don't want to kill that vibe.

Brian (83:58)

You don't want to kill that vibe. So it's just like, niggas know where to keep the ceiling of ignorance. Like, we can go in here and laugh and be loud, but we can't fight in the Waffle House. Also, I'm not trying to see your hands on that shit. You dig what I'm saying? You got to fight outside the Waffle House. That's. But inside, that's uncivilized, bro. I feel like the only people allowed to fight in the Waffle House is the people who work there.

Dr. Dot (84:20)

I feel like when clubs. When clubs was more about n. Dancing, you kind of got a similar at least level of serotonin. But now, you know what I'm saying? The clubs is like a competition now. It's just too much competition. Like, who got the most bottles.

Brian (84:32)

Yeah, that's corny. We done fucked the competition up. Cause it used to be who the best dancer was.

Dr. Dot (84:36)

Yes, it is.

Brian (84:36)

And like, I really think that if the younger generation is gonna do anything, it's like bring back a dance battle.

Dr. Dot (84:43)

Bring back partying for partying.

Brian (84:44)

Partying for partying sake. We having a good time.

Dr. Dot (84:47)

Yeah.

Brian (84:47)

You know what I'm saying? Not. It's not a money competition. Because really all it is is like, who can waste the most money.

Dr. Dot (84:52)

Yeah. I must say, who can get scammed the most. It's really the craziest thing. It's really who the easiest lick for this. For the.

Brian (84:58)

When it's establishment that's selling you 40 bottles for 200.

Dr. Dot (85:05)

I'm standing here.

Brian (85:08)

That. Yeah.

Dr. Dot (85:12)

But that's the problem, though. That's the problem, though. We shouldn't. You shouldn't. You didn't. You didn't have to be cool to dance. You just had to dance like that. Just move. Enjoy the music. Enjoy the hoes. Like, what?

Brian (85:22)

You ever seen some of them recordings of Soul Train like, them wasn't even on Beat Them. They were just having a good time, bro. That's what we were saying. Like, watching the, like. Like, if I didn't know any better and I didn't know that the dogs went through all these baths for. You got on this boat, I would think he was fresh out the scene. Like, the was like, yeah, that was hitting that bit, bro. They, like, all of 60 right now.

Dr. Dot (85:49)

But, like, hitting it still, though, because that's what that was about. It was like, I'm gonna have a good time, and then I'm gonna remember how much fun I had. Not got down because I ain't gonna hold you, bro. Obviously, I'm a rapper. I've been in the club a lot. I don't have very many memories of any of it. I don't remember. It's nothing that stood. I don't have, like, no time.

Brian (86:07)

It's not memorable.

Dr. Dot (86:08)

Yeah, it's not memorable. Like, I just been in that. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't have, like, a memory.

Brian (86:12)

I just remember one time.

Dr. Dot (86:14)

I remember parties that was fun.

Brian (86:15)

I remember I was having the time of my life in the palace because they had open mic and I had performed, and, like, people was like, damn, that was really good. So I was kind of feeling good. And then the DJ came on and March Madness came on, and I had two fucking Long Island Iced Teas in my hand. That's fine. And I just started dancing my ass off like, it wasn't even about nothing else but where I was at in that moment. And I just, like, too long is crazy. Listen, bro, I'm telling you, I was like. I was like, I am having the time of my fucking life right now. And I just remember, like, saying to the top of my lungs, you know how sometimes music would just, like, make you feel that feeling like we the one that kept it cool with all you. Till you start acting like I had just fell out with a. And it was like, this is this. Future knows me, bro.

Dr. Dot (87:05)

I said. I said this to this for the other day, bro. Future is gospel music.

Brian (87:10)

He actually making blues music in a real way. He making gospel and blues music. Yes.

Dr. Dot (87:15)

I told his KP years ago. KP Shout out money. Kp God. Then he helped us work on the album on Ghetto Guys. And he was like, what y' all listening to? I was like, well, I got this one thing I'm listening to no matter what, and it's a playlist I got called Future Gospel. And it's all the times I listen to a future song and I felt that I put it on the list, nigga.

Brian (87:32)

I'm like, I was on my way to the right street in the paddock wagon, and it had me numb. I was like, oh, this nigga Gibson. This is gospel music, nigga. You're right. This gospel music.

Dr. Dot (87:41)

Gospel music.

Brian (87:42)

He one of the few rappers that ever made me just feel like, oh, my God, nigga, I'm out my body with like excitement, bro. This nigga just get it.

Dr. Dot (87:50)

When I think about it. What's the other song? So many, bro. He got something married to the game. Oh, man. When married to the game first out, bro, we was on it for. We was goddamn playing that every night, bro. You know what I'm saying? We was on. We did this one tour. It's us, Jaden Smith, then us, then Thug and ysl, then Cole. It's crazy ass too.

Brian (88:12)

One crazy, wild ass lineup.

Dr. Dot (88:14)

Oh, man. Super fun arena tour. Every night, every get a locker. Like, each crew got a locker room. So we go in each other locker rooms. That was like. That was hella fun. Everybody just hanging out type. But at the end of the night will play that goddamn married to the game, man. Everybody is saying that, but needs to be drunk. Turned up Duke Autumn wise. Hell be like, really?

Brian (88:36)

I appreciate it.

Dr. Dot (88:36)

I really do. We used to be. That's your. That's. That's. That's like future just unifying, bro. All type of.

Brian (88:42)

I'm telling you, bro, it's something about that, bro. Like, I was telling. I was telling that I had like one of my best takes I ever. One of my best tick tock takes ever. I was like, this future is a pharmaceutical representative. He's not a drug addict.

Dr. Dot (89:01)

Yeah, he. He's a farmer rep, bro.

Brian (89:04)

He a farmer.

Dr. Dot (89:04)

He's one of the greatest to do it.

Brian (89:06)

He's the best ever. He's the best ever.

Dr. Dot (89:08)

Yes, for sure.

Brian (89:10)

That is. Listen, bro, the thing is, it's like the. Is literally a musical genius, and you can't take that away from him. And he's top three in Atlanta all time.

Dr. Dot (89:22)

He's a. He's an amazing songwriter. And songwriting has this thing because.

Brian (89:27)

Yeah, because like, bro, I was still. I'm sorry to cut you off. No, I'm getting very excited about this conversation.

Dr. Dot (89:33)

I love a future talk, bro.

Brian (89:34)

Listen, bro, love and affection. When I first heard that song, that songwriting, bro. Bro, that is just songwriting.

Dr. Dot (89:41)

Songwriting, bro. Like the. The be tapped in, but also, like, I say this, who be tapped in with his. Like, he gonna tell the truth.

Brian (89:50)

Exactly.

Dr. Dot (89:50)

You can love it. I hate it. You know what I'm saying? You can love it. I hate what I'm gonna say, but I'm gonna say this, bruh.

Brian (89:54)

The thing is, it's like, you can't even be mad he's so honest about it.

Dr. Dot (89:58)

Exactly.

Brian (89:59)

He actually has a song about that.

Dr. Dot (90:01)

Yes.

Brian (90:02)

And then he has a song for everything.

Dr. Dot (90:04)

And also, you got a song for every.

Brian (90:06)

Got a song for everything. Every situation. Anything, bro. This is the listen, bro. Okay. 2000, 14, 15, 16. This is when I'm getting into my, like, move group Giant Africa, like, Black Panther. Like, I'm really into this. So, like, it's reflective. This actually probably around the time I discover y' all. And too. Because it's all making sense. Like, my musical taste is alignment. And I still love Future, though. So when he met. So when he made God blessing out of Trap, I was like, this is duality, bro.

Dr. Dot (90:40)

But no, it's duality. But also, I don't think Future is out of this. Out of that realm, bro. I think he's saying some.

Brian (90:45)

I mean. Cause on March Madness, he was a. Like, he. You know, he suddenly addresses some socially conscious.

Dr. Dot (90:51)

I mean, yeah, but I. I think it's just the way he do it. Like, I say, bro, I think if you put future verses through something, like, you. You let a rapper do it on, like, a premiere beat, you're gonna hear it a lot differently. And you're gonna be like, damn, that nigga.

Brian (91:05)

Yeah, but I don't. And, see, I don't even subscribe to that because some of the most ignorant music you can listen to is, like, west side Gun music. Like, he just say the most fly, ignorant shit ever.

Dr. Dot (91:14)

You do subscribe. Because that's my exact point. My point is, it be the production.

Brian (91:18)

But you think it's, like, super. But, like, what's I gonna even say? Like, bro, I'm just trying to say the grimiest, flyest. And he kills it.

Dr. Dot (91:26)

Exactly.

Brian (91:26)

Every time.

Dr. Dot (91:27)

Exactly.

Brian (91:27)

I love a Westside Gun song. There's nothing you can do. I don't care how lyrical Conway and Benny is. You're not better than him. Because it's just something about the. The way he do the. Said my G is looking like moon boots. I was like, he. He gets it.

Dr. Dot (91:42)

He get it.

Brian (91:43)

It's some. It's just the way you use words. It matters. All right, we'll wrap up on this. We'll wrap up the future talk and the interview.

Dr. Dot (91:50)

Okay?

Brian (91:52)

Who do you think can go toe to toe with Future in the versus, we'll do 10 songs. He has 20. And you can use everything. But you can use everything he ever put on dsp, I would say, because now. Now that I'm thinking about it, people, I was on threads telling that nobody can go toe to toe with Jay in that versus, but now that I think about it again, I think Future can.

Dr. Dot (92:21)

I've always said future kid, and I feel like, you know.

Brian (92:24)

Yeah, no, he's not untouchable, but in my mind, sometimes he is, bro. I mean, because it's the way that, like, wrong.

Dr. Dot (92:30)

He the goat. But, like, no, he the goat, bro.

Brian (92:33)

It ain't even about the hits, bro. It's about what the music mean to me personally.

Dr. Dot (92:37)

Yeah.

Brian (92:38)

That'd be like, my whole. Like, my top five is not my favorite rapper rappers. You know what I'm saying? Because Matt, homie, in my top current five.

Dr. Dot (92:45)

Yeah.

Brian (92:47)

Freddie Gives is in my top current five. Schoolboy Q is in my top current five. But, like, I know they not the top five rappers of all time.

Dr. Dot (92:53)

Yeah.

Brian (92:54)

You see what I'm saying? But they my favorite.

Dr. Dot (92:56)

But that's what it should be, though. That's what it should be for everyone. Like, everybody should have their own favorite.

Brian (92:59)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (93:00)

Need to be trying to align favorites so they can feel like. Like they taste as good. Yeah.

Brian (93:04)

You don't have better music tastes like, bro. I haven't even. There's Jay Z albums I just haven't heard, you know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (93:09)

And it's not always be that way. And I'm okay with it.

Brian (93:11)

I'm cool with it. Like, I don't need to hear the dinosaur. I'm straight.

Dr. Dot (93:14)

Who can take Future? I'm gonna say. Definitely Kanye. And you kind of got to go through the whole catalog, but because I wouldn't say late Kanye.

Brian (93:28)

Are we putting any asterisks on this?

Dr. Dot (93:30)

I would like to know your asterisks after I say this.

Brian (93:32)

Go ahead.

Dr. Dot (93:34)

Because now you got me thinking.

Brian (93:36)

One thing about Easy and Saha. So it's like.

Dr. Dot (93:39)

Are you talking about, like, who wrote it?

Brian (93:41)

Yeah.

Dr. Dot (93:41)

No, I ain't. I ain't going off that.

Brian (93:42)

We're going all performance.

Dr. Dot (93:43)

I'm just going off the songs as they present.

Brian (93:45)

Yeah. All right.

Dr. Dot (93:46)

Because it's too. Because you and as a who being a lot of sessions, I know a lot of people write a lot of who. You know what I'm saying? I don't wrote some songs for that. I see. Get right all day and they'll never know I did. You know what I'M saying, like, I just.

Brian (93:58)

If you think about, like, all day, when Kanye performed that at VMAX with all them flames, I was like, he is really blowing white people mind right now. Yeah, but he's also blowing my mind. But just the shock and awe on their face. It's like, so Kanye could do it.

Dr. Dot (94:13)

Nelly could do it. I think a lot of people sleep on.

Brian (94:16)

That's not a controversial take.

Dr. Dot (94:18)

I feel like Nelly could do it. I don't know why. I mean, I know why we sleep on Nelly.

Brian (94:21)

It's recency bias, but it's recently biased. But Nelly was going diamond, brother. And Hard Sell, one of the few.

Dr. Dot (94:27)

Going diamond while active, too. A lot of diamonds come retroactively, you know what I'm saying? No, he was still making diamond while it was happening, bro. Like, that was this.

Brian (94:36)

When I first heard. Yeah, I was in, like, the sixth grade. I was like, this is the greatest.

Dr. Dot (94:39)

Rapper of all time ever, bro. And then the last one I would say is Pain, bro. And that's just because versus is hit for hit, baby.

Brian (94:47)

And pain has. I got by.

Dr. Dot (94:49)

Because I just want to tour with him.

Brian (94:50)

But also while I'm on this tour, It's a refreshing.

Dr. Dot (94:53)

I forgot.

Brian (94:54)

Yeah. I'm just like, nah, because buy you a drink is fire. But also, like, I'm in love with a stripper is amazing, bro.

Dr. Dot (94:59)

And he produced a lot of that.

Brian (95:01)

He's a cold. He's very cold.

Dr. Dot (95:03)

He produced it, do the harmonies, recorded himself.

Brian (95:08)

There's not any other podcast, like, where I'm just, like, dying to go on it, but his.

Dr. Dot (95:12)

Oh, yeah, no, you should pull up, bro. I can hit, y'. All. I did this, like, three times. Pause, and then.

Brian (95:22)

That's real. That was a good part.

Dr. Dot (95:24)

But also, like I said, we just. We just told him for a month, so. That's my dog, bro.

Brian (95:28)

Yeah. Yeah. I just like the format of it, I think. And he just seemed like a really good time, you know what I'm saying? Like, he seemed like a fun guy.

Dr. Dot (95:34)

Fun, super fun guy to be around, but also, like, I'm amazing. Just good.

Brian (95:38)

Just a good human.

Dr. Dot (95:39)

Yeah, you can.

Brian (95:40)

It radiates off of him, you know what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (95:42)

Then he gonna glow forever, and they gonna be successful forever because he's not gonna fuck it up along the way. He's just gonna be, you know what I'm saying? Lovable ass T. Pain. And whenever, like, the trend of his music come back in style, because that's all it is. Just, like with clothes. Your bows is back now. You know what I'm saying? Like, when come back around, he gonna be ready for it and he gonna capitalize because like, that's just what that is.

Brian (96:01)

And he's like extremely talented. Though, like, we can never negate that fact. That man is talented.

Dr. Dot (96:09)

And he can rap good as.

Brian (96:10)

Okay, let's talk about this one more time. I know we was gonna rap on that, but we not. Let's talk about like some of the most talented negroes to ever grace this earth. Jamie Foxx.

Dr. Dot (96:20)

Jamie Foxx. I break. Jamie Foxx. T Pain. Prince. Yes. Eddie Murphy.

Brian (96:29)

Okay?

Dr. Dot (96:30)

Eddie Murphy can do anything, bruh.

Brian (96:32)

This is what I'm talking about. T not T Pain. Eddie Murphy has Diamond Records, arguably two of the best stand up comedy sets of all time. He was a on snl being himself. He revolutionized black film. The made reggae song. And that went half bad also. It was not terrible.

Dr. Dot (97:01)

You gotta say this about his era too, because while you saying, hey, Murphy, all them of entertainers of that era was you had to do more than one thing. You couldn't just be like, I'm an influencer, I'm an actor. You had a scene, you had to sing, you had to dance. Even if your singing wasn't that great, you better keep working that. Yeah, that's just what it was, bro.

Brian (97:17)

He was, he's. Bro, I just watched this documentary. I was like, God damn, bro. You forget how like, how much he accomplished? Because like this another thing too.

Dr. Dot (97:26)

Yeah, no, I was watching this today. I ain't finish it. But yes, don't tell me too much. Yeah, just started before I came over here. Yes, brother, okay.

Brian (97:33)

Yes. When I saw that, I was like, okay. I said, bro, I said, I don't, I don't, I'm not. I can't look at money the same, I think to this, right? Because this another thing we got to forget. We got to remember Trading Places, Boomerang, Harlem Nights. Has it starts a family.

Dr. Dot (97:52)

The one where he was a congressman, like a filling. Congressman El was in it, one of.

Brian (97:58)

Them older ones, but it was like a cult classic. But also what's coming to America. Think about this era of films. No, just chill. Just chill. This is what I'm saying. In the youth and his youth and the prime of his career. Beverly Hills Cop revolutionized film Boomerang, revolutionized black romance in film. This had kids and was like, I'm going, Dr. Doolittle, Shrek, Nutty Professor. Bro, bro. Do you know how good. First of all, let's talk about this. Do you know how good Donkey and Shrek is so good.

Dr. Dot (98:32)

So good, bro. The first one. The first one especially he carried that.

Brian (98:36)

He carried it, bro. I don't know, bro. First of all, you would think like, like next to Mike Myers, right?

Dr. Dot (98:42)

I love Mike Myers, bro.

Brian (98:43)

That's what I'm saying. Because I. Because we big fans of like Austin Power. Like, it's a. It's a big part of our reference bag.

Dr. Dot (98:49)

Like, same, bro. We love. That's. We was watching on tour. I had this the whole bus.

Brian (98:54)

It's hilarious, bro.

Dr. Dot (98:55)

Yes, bro.

Brian (98:56)

So like, this the thing. But anytime Shrek come on tv, I will watch it. There's not a time because of Eddie Murphy, he funny as.

Dr. Dot (99:02)

But he was going crazy be sleeping on his performance as Mushu and Mulan.

Brian (99:15)

Probably what led to it, because Mulan growing up was one of my favorite Disney movies because of like. But Mushu, bro, he didn't make it, bro.

Dr. Dot (99:22)

This is too funny, bro.

Brian (99:24)

He just get it, bro.

Dr. Dot (99:25)

He get it.

Brian (99:25)

He get it.

Dr. Dot (99:26)

I feel Eddie one of the most talented, I think, I think probably the last, most talented, I would say that ever is Angela Bassett.

Brian (99:39)

Angela Bassett is a girl.

Dr. Dot (99:40)

She can do anything. And she did do anything for way too long, honestly, before she became like the thing like that everybody loves, right? She was doing it at a high level.

Brian (99:51)

She didn't did everything at a high.

Dr. Dot (99:53)

Level from the beginning. Yeah, yeah.

Brian (99:56)

Because she made love. What's love got to do with it, bro? Like, do you know how many times my mom and sister watch that movie?

Dr. Dot (100:03)

And then she good as.

Brian (100:04)

That good as. And she was. She killing it. I didn't even see Waiting to Exhale. She got errors and now she on TV as a cop. She still looks amazing.

Dr. Dot (100:15)

Yeah. But this is like. This is like her most chill.

Brian (100:18)

She cooling.

Dr. Dot (100:19)

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? She like. Yeah. I mean, it's a victory lap.

Brian (100:23)

Is it too. Is it too soon to put Donald Glover in him?

Dr. Dot (100:28)

No.

Brian (100:28)

Cause he had a funny ass stand up.

Dr. Dot (100:29)

It's not too soon.

Brian (100:30)

He had a decent rap career. It wasn't crazy.

Dr. Dot (100:32)

It's not too soon.

Brian (100:33)

The thing is, it's like, statistically it's very hard to make it and be known as a rapper. So just to be able to cross.

Dr. Dot (100:40)

That threshold, how about I say, yeah, you got to give him credit for his rap career. Cuz I'm. I'm not even like, personally, sonically a fan of his rap, but I do have a lot of respect for it.

Brian (100:48)

Cuz I know I with it. I like. I like Red Bone and this is America. Like, that's really what it comes.

Dr. Dot (100:52)

I ain't like, this is America. That's why. That's where I be drawing on my line. I be like, man, I do not like that song. I like the older man, the 3005. I was with that.

Brian (101:01)

I think the thing that saw me on this is America is the visual solely.

Dr. Dot (101:06)

And I'm a who. I love. I love a dance number. I love a show tune. I still was not a fan of that particular one, but I love Redbone and I love a lot of his other music, and I love his freestyles. So I'm gonna give it to him.

Brian (101:17)

I like his Sway in the Morning freestyle, where he just kind of like.

Dr. Dot (101:20)

Talks to him on rapping. I'm gonna give it to him on singing. I'm gonna give it to him on acting. I'm gonna give it to him on comedy, because I saw his comedy special when I was still in high school graduate.

Brian (101:29)

I seen was funny.

Dr. Dot (101:30)

Yeah. I was like, this. Funny as hell.

Brian (101:31)

This is hilarious. But also.

Dr. Dot (101:34)

But Atlanta, and Atlanta is his own thing that to me, to me, that's the best thing he's ever done.

Brian (101:40)

Listen, Brett, I don't. The thing is, is, like, he's gonna live in the shadow of having one of the greatest TV series of all time. And that is a good shadow to live in.

Dr. Dot (101:47)

Yeah.

Brian (101:48)

Because Mr. And Mrs. Smith on Amazon was amazing. It was amazing. It's amazing. Community. Just good.

Dr. Dot (101:55)

That's just a great show. That's just a great show. But Atlanta. Atlanta was a part of the show. And when it was, they went to that season where it was damn near like, like, like Black Mirror Anthology kind of style. Each episode was different. Season three, I was like, oh, it's.

Brian (102:09)

One of the greatest. Oh, it's one of the greatest seasons in TV film history ever.

Dr. Dot (102:15)

It wasn't. It's not one. And like, for real, for.

Brian (102:17)

It's not a beat that you can miss on that motherfucker and you can.

Dr. Dot (102:19)

Watch it over and over again and get something different.

Brian (102:21)

Exactly.

Dr. Dot (102:21)

Like, that's why it's amazing. Layer, bro.

Brian (102:23)

I'm like, it's Must see tv, bro. I would say the only other thing. Fargo. Fargo on fx, the series Fargo is if you like Tarantino, you'll love that.

Dr. Dot (102:35)

Okay.

Brian (102:35)

I'm telling you. And you can start. There's four seasons. You start season one, you. You probably want to leave the couch for three, four days. It's that good.

Dr. Dot (102:42)

Okay.

Brian (102:43)

You'll love it.

Dr. Dot (102:43)

I've been recommended that before, too. I need to go ahead and lock in.

Brian (102:46)

Just lock in.

Dr. Dot (102:47)

I'll be watching a lot of Chris.

Brian (102:48)

Rock actually did really good on season four. What you. What you with on Apple tv?

Dr. Dot (102:52)

I with. I super fuck with that Pluribus. Have you seen that? It's relatively new. Pluribus is. But it's gonna you up, though. It's gonna say Breaking Bad. Okay. Crazy.

Brian (103:04)

I'm gonna check that out.

Dr. Dot (103:05)

And I with. I with that show Platonic with Seth Rogen.

Brian (103:08)

I like that show.

Dr. Dot (103:09)

That show good as hell.

Brian (103:10)

And in the studio.

Dr. Dot (103:11)

I really like the studio, bro. Like, I know it's like a darling show now, but when I was watching it, everybody I asked, it was like, nobody.

Brian (103:17)

Nobody knew who it was watching it.

Dr. Dot (103:18)

I was like, okay, y' all missing.

Brian (103:19)

I'm gonna pretty much get anything Seth Rogan in a chance, though.

Dr. Dot (103:22)

Rogan, bro. He. He a here who has won my trust.

Brian (103:25)

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Dr. Dot (103:27)

Sure.

Brian (103:27)

Yeah, I try. I'm. I'm like that, though. Like, when people ask, like, what's your favorite movie? Or it's like, I'm more so fans of directors and actors. Like, I know if I see a certain director or actor attached to something, it's gonna be good. You know what I'm saying? It's gonna be like, if I see Billy Bob Thornton, I'm giving it a chance. You dig what I'm saying?

Dr. Dot (103:44)

Favorite Billy Bob Thornton role don't say he was cracking Halle.

Brian (103:47)

No.

Dr. Dot (103:47)

Hell no.

Brian (103:48)

I actually abhor that.

Dr. Dot (103:49)

It's my least favorite.

Brian (103:50)

I actually wish it didn't exist. Yeah, it took. It took H bar start down for me. Yeah, yeah, cuz like, damn, you was in a boomerang with Eddie Murphy now.

Dr. Dot (104:01)

But range.

Brian (104:02)

Range get you an Oscar. But I say this Billy Bob Thor. And between Sling Blade and he. He. He season one of Fargo killed. And then the Landman is really good. The land man is amazing.

Dr. Dot (104:20)

We watched a little bit. That's what Cam kept talking about.

Brian (104:23)

Landman is fire. 10 out of 10 for sure. Season one at least. 10 out of 10. And there's one more where he a Lord Goliath. Goliath hard. Billy Bob just gonna show up and do his thing.

Dr. Dot (104:33)

Gonna do his thing. Yeah. You know, I also like a lot. He was kind of in that vein. Walton Goggins, the dude from.

Brian (104:40)

Yeah, he.

Dr. Dot (104:41)

He actually. He actually from Marietta. Yeah. You ever seen Raj's gemstones? Yeah, baby. Billy.

Brian (104:46)

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dr. Dot (104:48)

He from Marietta.

Brian (104:49)

Broggins was in vice principals. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Dr. Dot (104:53)

He killed that too.

Brian (104:54)

Listen, if I see him. I'm clicking.

Dr. Dot (104:56)

He's showing up.

Brian (104:57)

He was on Fallout, too.

Dr. Dot (104:58)

Yeah, he'd be killing. He be showing up, bro.

Brian (105:01)

He be showing up.

Dr. Dot (105:02)

He was on one of them other shows on hbo, the. The Hotel show, whatever show about the.

Brian (105:08)

Oh, the White Lotus.

Dr. Dot (105:09)

White Lotus, Yeah. He was on that.

Brian (105:10)

Yes, bro.

Dr. Dot (105:11)

And he'd be showing up. He's a Marietta bro.

Brian (105:13)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He is. Yeah. Damn. Well, shout out to car county, man. You know what I'm saying? Shout out my dog. Sam Foster, almost being the first black mayor of Marietta, man, lost by 87 votes. Oh.

Dr. Dot (105:25)

No runoff.

Brian (105:26)

No runoff. And do you remember that's Buddy that came up here? I interviewed him. I had something to do with that. No.

Dr. Dot (105:32)

No runoff. That's close. It's just different out there.

Brian (105:38)

It's different out there because it's old money.

Dr. Dot (105:40)

Yeah. How about say that's the closest thing in the world? That's a runoff.

Brian (105:44)

Exactly. Yeah. But in Marietta is racism.

Dr. Dot (105:48)

Yeah, exactly. It's a racist.

Brian (105:51)

He's a. The white man 1. Close the polls. But, Doc, man. Appreciate you, bro. You know, this your camera right here. You do all the plugs. Any plugs.

Dr. Dot (106:01)

How of the moon, a Dr. Dot Saga is out right now on all streaming platforms. Or you can go to doctor dot dot com. It's super fun to say. Even funny to go to dot com. You can get the album, you get merch shows. Whatever we. Whatever we up to this way. You know what I'm saying? That way, these ways.

Brian (106:21)

With me, Diana Kyle, host, podcast. But who's behind the camera?

Dr. Dot (106:26)

Big Ice Cub Cat.

Brian (106:27)

It's been another episode with our guest Dr. Do turn me up, man. I just want to rap. Want to rap. Yeah. They say without the proper labor, faith don't stand a chance.

Dr. Dot (106:56)

I put my faith in faith and stand on fertile land I planted seeds that'll indeed turn into trees before rest.

Brian (107:02)

In peace tease get printed to me.