Episode 107 - Don't Be Diddy

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast

Episode 107: “Don’t Be Diddy”
Host: Deante’ Kyle
Date: December 10, 2025

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode brings Deante’ Kyle and his co-host Big Cat back after a whirlwind of live shows, media appearances, and community events, launching into a raw and unfiltered discussion of their travels, pop culture, the culture of competition in Black America, and, most notably, a scathing analysis of the recent Diddy documentary and its revelations about industry exploitation and manipulation. The pod also explores deeper topics of materialism, community, and generational struggle in Black communities, before ending with listener questions that touch on personal growth, podcasting, and dealing with family betrayal and homelessness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Brooklyn Recap and Live Shows

Timestamps: 00:50 – 06:18

• The crew reminisces about their recent show in Brooklyn at the Brooklyn Art House and the special energy of the local crowd compared to other cities.
• They discuss the unique “tough love” of New York audiences:
  • “Brooklyn is the one, bro.” – Deante’ Kyle (02:46)
  • “The meet and greet is like no giddiness... They not gon’—They’ll show you love, but it’s not gonna be a whole lot of woo!” – Deante’ Kyle (03:18)
• Shoutouts to venues and staff for helping them pivot after a scheduled venue almost fell through due to legal and monetary disputes.
• They express gratitude for their growing community, their Patreon supporters, and memorable career moments, such as seeing themselves on a Times Square billboard and attending the Route 100 Celebration among Black celebrities.

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2. The Diddy Exposé and Culture of Exploitation

Timestamps: 12:25 – 29:00

• The central segment dissects the recent documentary on Diddy (Sean Combs), pivoting to an unflinching critique of Diddy’s career, business tactics, and personal failings.
• Main takeaways:
  • Diddy’s pattern of taking things (and women) from others, his inability to allow anyone to become bigger than him, and his predatory contracts.
  • Diddy’s creative vision is acknowledged, but his predatory exploitation far outweighs his accolades:

    “He took the knowledge that he learned from them about fucking up the artist. He took it to a whole nother level.” – Deante’ Kyle (14:51)

  • The manipulation of artists via exploitative contracts:

    “He put shit in the contracts that said, you will be famous. You won’t make no money.” – Deante’ Kyle (15:27)

  • A repeated cycle of benefiting from tragedy:

    “Every time somebody died, he came up.” – Deante’ Kyle (17:46)

• Examples of Diddy’s behavior as described in the documentary include sexual misconduct, manipulation, obsession with fame and power, and an unhealthy fixation with street credibility.
• The conversation sharply critiques not only Diddy, but the music industry at large for its long legacy of predatory practices:

  “The music industry in and of itself has to be predatory.” – Deante’ Kyle (14:51)

• The episode questions the culture of competition over community, and how individual enrichment—glorified in both criminal and corporate American systems—hurts Black communities.

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3. Materialism, Community, and Capitalism

Timestamps: 29:00 – 62:50

• The discussion expands into a philosophical debate about materialism versus assets, and competition versus community:

  “We only care about financial freedom. That’s our idea of freedom, is finance…This is where we get into a place where we start putting competition over community.” – Deante’ Kyle (44:53)

• Using humor, the crew imagines what they’d do with a trillion dollars (“going silly with the trilly”), which satirically underscores the episode’s critique of American hypercapitalism and the allure of immense personal wealth.
• Deante’ warns against wealth as a cure for insecurity, emphasizing the emptiness of mere material gain without assets or generational wealth:

  “Just because you can afford it doesn’t mean it’s not a scam.” – Deante’ Kyle (55:05)

• Powerful reflection on how feelings of inferiority or insecurity are exploited by companies via over-consumption:

  “They selling to your internal…they selling to how you feel about yourself when you downtrodden.” – Deante’ Kyle (52:53)

• They call for rooting economic power in true ownership, communal wealth, and self-esteem grounded in internal worth—not how others see you.

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4. Listener Q&A and Personal Advice

Timestamps: 63:09 – 87:54

Caller Maya:

• Thanks hosts for relationship advice; shares synchronicity between her life and the podcast topics.

  “Y’all always, like…talking about something that I’ve already had a conversation with my girlfriends…It’s the telepathy.” – Caller Maya (63:42)

• Maya asks for advice on launching her own podcast:
  • The hosts encourage action and iteration over overthinking:

    “Don’t have an idea and go. Once you start doing the show, once you’re a practitioner, you’ll understand what your practice is.” – Deante’ Kyle (66:55)

  • Start with short episodes (20–30 min), talk about what matters to you, and build from there.
  • “You gotta start and THEN figure it out.”
• Other listener letters tackle issues of creative burnout, fighting outrage cycles on YouTube, and discouragement when educational videos don’t perform as well as “outrage” content.
  • Deante’ and Big Cat emphasize:

    “If you put them people that do watch in a room…that’s a room.” – Deante’ Kyle (75:38)
    “Don’t let the YouTube videos get you bummed out, man.” (75:54)

• The most poignant letter comes from a young woman struggling with “mommy issues and homelessness” after being kicked out by her mother under manipulative circumstances:

  “Your mother’s a weird ass…How you go from child to tenant?” – Deante’ Kyle (79:24)

  • The crew offers compassion, practical help (sharing her GoFundMe, offering resources to move to a more affordable state), and affirms:

    “It’s not you. It’s her. We gonna get you away from her…Don’t look back.” – Deante’ Kyle (81:56)

  • The segment highlights the recurring battle between personal responsibility and the generational patterns set by family and community.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Right artist, wrong song.” – Big Cat, on New York crowds (01:15)
• “Brooklyn is the one, bro. I like that.” – Deante’ Kyle (02:46)
• “I respect it…You gotta earn the love.” – Deante’ Kyle on NY audience (03:34)
• “He [Diddy] don’t want nobody to be bigger than him and he willing to take your life. He willing to take your girl.” – Deante’ Kyle (13:03)
• “He’s just a diabolical nigga. Like when it comes to the…freak offs and the sex shit too, it’s just like…he a foul ass mama too.” – Deante’ Kyle (22:47; 23:55)
• “Competition over community…he see you with a girl, he want the girl. It’s more important to him to take something from somebody than to build with somebody.” – Deante’ Kyle (45:45)
• “You was gonna be great either way it went. It may have took you a little longer because you was born poor.” – Deante’ Kyle (47:58)
• “They selling to how you feel about yourself when you downtrodden. When you ain’t got—and you get—you gotta show you got it.” – Deante’ Kyle (52:53)
• “Just because you can afford it doesn’t mean it’s not a scam.” – Deante’ Kyle (55:05)
• “It’s your show. You talk about what you want to talk about…you gotta start and THEN figure it out.” – Deante’ Kyle (70:01)
• “If you put them people that do watch in a room…that’s a room.” (75:38)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Starting up/Brooklyn recap: 00:50 – 06:18
• Diddy documentary & industry exploitation: 12:25 – 29:00
• Materialism vs. assets, community reflection: 29:00 – 62:50
• Listener Q&A and life advice: 63:09 – 87:54
• Closing thoughts & music outro: 88:06 – end

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Tone & Style

Conversational, humorous, raw, and at times unflinchingly honest, the hosts employ storytelling, irreverent humor, and serious social critique, seamlessly moving between jokes about “going silly with the trilly” and hard truths about the music industry, family betrayal, and building community. Their language is unfiltered and direct, maintaining a vibe that’s both welcoming and challenging to listeners.

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Summary

Episode 107, “Don’t Be Diddy,” is a quintessential Grits and Eggs episode: simultaneously cutting, hilarious, and deeply invested in Black survival and excellence. Deante’ and crew take listeners through the reality of being Black entertainers navigating a culture obsessed with individual fame and material success—a reality shaped by people like Diddy and the structures that enable them. Yet amid the critique and laughter, the episode is firmly rooted in love for the community, offering both philosophy and practical help, whether in boosting a listener’s confidence to start a podcast or supporting a cousin through homelessness. At the heart: choose assets over looks, community over competition, and never forget—just because you can afford it, doesn’t mean it’s not a scam.

Transcript

[Maya]

Yeah.

Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty soul with a dirty mouth my knee orbit miss things things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my bitch no rest fusion she gorgeous as I d my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead Tell them we gonna get this money to my pocket Remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't gotta like a regardless, baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me we like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee Flick your cigarette and let a vent yeah.

We.

[Deontay Kyle]

Back.

Oh, we back. Grits and eggs podcast, episode 107. I am your host, Deontay Coward, who's Behind the camera.

[Big Cat]

Mr. Get no love in Brooklyn, cat.

No, they showed me. They showed me love a little bit. They showed me love. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. New York is always a tough crowd.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a tough crowd. You gotta play the right shit. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And it was like, right artist, wrong song.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's what it was.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Right artist, wrong song. I'm gonna keep it real now. He liked to. He done been a revisionist about this a few times. I spanked them on the verses in Brooklyn. Spanked them.

[Big Cat]

I don't say spank.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was a 4:1.

[Big Cat]

It wasn't a 4:1.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a spanking.

[Big Cat]

It was a 4:1.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, dog, I say 14. If you was at the.

If you in Brooklyn right now and you was at Griss and Eggs Podcast live show at the Brooklyn Art House, you tell us in the comments. Out of five songs, what was the ranking? I say it was four one.

[Big Cat]

I say it was four two.

[Deontay Kyle]

It couldn't have been four two. Nigga was only five times. All right, well, three, two. I mean, three two.

[Big Cat]

I'm sorry.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was three two. If you in Brooklyn right now, let everybody know. I spanked him. Spanked that by. Nah.

[Big Cat]

I lost fair and square.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, fair and square. I lost.

[Big Cat]

I'm a man.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

I take my losses.

[Deontay Kyle]

I took my. I lost. I took my Allen. I lost, son. I took my Allen in Atlanta.

[Big Cat]

But even. Well, here's the thing, you know, it's New York. Yeah, Dangle. Even at the meet and greet. You know, at meet and greets, it's.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, bro.

Let me tell you what I look like. I have a newfound love for New York.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was in the wrong spots. When I first went, I was in like Manhattan. I was in Harlem the second time. That's when I was like, oh, I like this. Like, it's nice out here. Being in Brooklyn. We live in Brooklyn, baby.

[Big Cat]

Whole different vibe.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, that's. That's the. You know what I'm saying? Brooklyn is the one, bro. I like that. Well, I mean, we was kicking it with my cousin. It was in the project.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

The project's literally all day. All day. We didn't live, we didn't. We got everything we needed. We. All you had to do was cross the street. Cross the street, baby. Yeah, it's literally. You didn't have to leave and go.

[Big Cat]

No, we didn't have to go nowhere. Yeah, we was on new lots in Mother Gaston.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's what we was at.

[Deontay Kyle]

On the corner plaza. Yeah. Shout to the plaza. Shout out to Brownsville.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

The thing is, is that.

The meet and greet is like no giddiness. Niggas are anti glazing in New York. So they not. They'll show you love to you. They gonna show you love.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But it's not gonna be a whole lot of woo.

[Derek Falcon]

It's not gonna be a whole lot.

[Deontay Kyle]

Of oh my God. It's not. None of that, none of that, none of that.

[Big Cat]

And I love and I respect that.

[Deontay Kyle]

I respect it.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta earn the love. You know what I'm saying? Definitely gonna hold you though. Showtime. They was turned. They was showtime. Standing ovation in Brooklyn, bro. Standing ovation.

[Big Cat]

Got a standing ovation.

[Deontay Kyle]

Got a standing ovation. I mean it was like 30, 30, 45 second. Like it was really. That was love, bro. Man, they know how to. They, they are great guests, you know what I'm saying? That's a great crowd out there.

Shout out to the Brooklyn Art House for helping us pivot, man. Shout out to still. Shout out to Isola. I talked to Hannibal today. It wasn't really his fault. They was on some fuck shit. And even the judge, like the judge had ordered them to open the doors back up that day. But by that time we had already dealt with. Yeah. Cause he was paying his bread and shit and they still tried to lock the doors. Cause they was on some whole like other shit. Like they was really trying to hold him for more money, right? They tried to low key like paperwork, extort the nigga type shit.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But either way, Deontay. Deontaykyle.com DeontayEontaykyle.com for all booking and Inquiries, you know, for guest suggestions, guest spots. Yeah, everything you need. We Got it on deontayeontayky.com.

Advice deontay kyle.com Follow your advice submissions. We got a couple advice submissions today.

657-234-X at 657-234-3447 for all your call ins. And tonight we are doing a cousin club stream. We're going to have a couple call ins tonight, but the only way you can get on that cousin club stream is to get on that Patreon. $8. How much that Patreon? $8. $8. Man, you got to tap into the Patreon the grizzly next podcast the page. Shout out to Patreon as a company, as a record label, as a motherfucking crew. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Billboard in Times Square. I mean, look, son, you don't understand.

That was crazy.

[Big Cat]

That was a great experience.

[Deontay Kyle]

Surreal. It was surreal, bro. It was like, damn, yo.

[Big Cat]

Niggas is in Times Square.

[Deontay Kyle]

We in Times Square on a billboard.

[Big Cat]

Grissom X. Billboard.

[Deontay Kyle]

Grisson Eggs. Billboard.

[Big Cat]

God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

We was out there. Sabrina Carpenter. I found out.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

She was a couple ass before us.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

She got a couple spots before. Yeah, yeah, bruh. The cousins came to. Pulled up a couple of cousins. They did. I understand why a lot of y' all didn't. It was brick as. Shit. Brick City. It was Brick city. The Hawk. The Hawk was flying high.

[Big Cat]

The Hawk.

[Deontay Kyle]

The Hawk was flying high. It was cold as. Yeah. Couple flurries of snow.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nothing crazy, just.

[Big Cat]

Just a few flurries.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was down there in a, in a, in a, a, a, a. An ankle length trench that you were. You see what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Route 100 Celebration. It's a celebration all week. Yeah, all week.

[Big Cat]

All week.

[Deontay Kyle]

Route 100. I got to speak at Route 100. You know some, some notable black celebs in the building. You know my boy Don Lemon. Don Lemon, Gail King.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Jasmine Crockett. The guys from earn your leisure was there. They was. They didn't seem too enthused. Oh, word. They was there.

[Derek Falcon]

Oh, they.

[Deontay Kyle]

They introduced. I'm going get the.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But it's love, man. It was love. All in that building. We had a great time. Everybody was dressed to the nines. I met my boy Doss.

I met Christina Brown. I met Christian Devine. Hey, I met a book of people in that motherfucker. Great photos. Shout out to Ashley Allison, who runs the route. Thank y' all for honoring me. Thank y'. All for giving me room to speak. And then we leave there. Next day, we go to the Breakfast Club. Oh.

What a time. What a man. By this time. By the time this drops, this will be out. The Breakfast Club interview will be out. Yeah, but, man, what an experience, bro.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, the thing is, it's like, man.

They showed a lot of love. They asked great questions.

[Big Cat]

They did.

[Deontay Kyle]

I could tell they really respected what we do, you know what I'm saying? And that's a different vibe than they give most, you know? It is what it is.

[Big Cat]

It was. No bullshit.

[Deontay Kyle]

No bullshit. Yeah. No funny shit. Jokes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We got jokes off.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not, like trying to cut into niggas jokes. Trying to play niggas jokes. Like, real. Just, like. Just fun. It was a great time, bro. It was a great time. I would. I would definitely go again, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to Charlemagne, bro, for the invite. You know what I'm saying? Appreciate that, brother. Appreciate that black man. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

It has a in that, boy. It was so hot in that damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Studio y' all got. See, y' all can see the sweat glistening.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Big cat sweating.

[Deontay Kyle]

Said, God damn. Big ice box. Hand me a towel, please.

My cousin kept calling you Big Ice.

[Big Cat]

Miss Icebox. Shout out to Brooklyn, man. Go get you a nickname.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out my man, man. Shout out my man. Derek Falcon, owner of Cloudy Donuts. Yeah. Sent us a whole box of. I had the whole hood eating Cloudy Donuts.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Good vegan donuts.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The hood was like, this vegan.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, if this vegan. I'm vegan.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And all my aunties was like, you vegan? Look at me. Do I look vegan? Do I look vegan? I'm fresh off a chopped cheese this morning. I got chopped cheese in my belly. That was breakfast.

[Big Cat]

Want to get that chopped cheese that morning?

[Deontay Kyle]

We had to get one for me.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But what else, man? What else, man? We had a great meeting with our agency. Tour next year for sure. Absolutely. A tour next year. Yeah, absolutely. A tour. If you live in a city.

If you in a black city right now, Nashville, Memphis, Charlotte, Raleigh, D.C. baltimore. If you in Chicago right now, if you in Houston right now, if you in Dallas right now, if you in New Orleans right now, we coming to see you, man. And then we gonna end it. We gonna get back to New York, New York City. We ain't gonna tell you where we gonna be, but we gonna be back in New York, baby. We're gonna be Back in New York, we might take this thing overseas. If you in Jamaica right now.

School better.

Yeah, we going to Jamaica, son. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We doing it all, man. This was an impeccable week, bro.

[Big Cat]

It was great.

[Deontay Kyle]

Tomorrow, you know, we'll be past this by the time this come out, but we host Mona Leo's concert here in Atlanta. Sold out show. Yeah, you get a, you know. You know what I'm saying? Get a chance to redeem yourself. We're gonna do another verses.

[Big Cat]

We gonna do a verses, like back and forth with each other or just go play some music.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's gonna be some fun. It won't be a versus.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, let's have some fun. Let's just have some fun.

[Deontay Kyle]

Have some fun.

[Big Cat]

We'll eat the verses for the cities.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's our thing. That's our.

[Big Cat]

That's the thing for the city. That's the icebreaker for the city.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can make a playlist, though. We can make us.

[Big Cat]

We can make a playlist.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, let's do that. Let's do that, do that. And we'll get with them before. We'll do sound checking and everything.

It's good to be back, though.

[Big Cat]

It feels great to be back.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm glad to be back home. I was glad to lay in my bed, man.

[Big Cat]

Man, what?

[Deontay Kyle]

It ain't nothing like your own bed, man. Man, you go out, you take over the world, and then you come back and you lay on bed. Ain't nothing like it.

[Big Cat]

Rub your feet together.

[Deontay Kyle]

One thing about me, everywhere I go, long as them sheets is clean. Yeah, I'm sleeping bucket, Nick. Oh. Oh. We gonna test that. We gonna test that. Cleaning. The clean lady put us out. Yeah, she put.

[Big Cat]

She came up.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's 12 o'. Clock. Yeah, I think Rocks. I got a job.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't speak no English.

[Big Cat]

None. The whole block speak no English.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nobody on the block speak English. They had his wheels in span very Spanish block.

Bobby. I don't sell cigarette. I'm not a cigarette. I don't sell cigarette, Papy. I don't sell cigarette.

[Big Cat]

My boy went to the market to get some cigarettes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Put his ass out of there. Yeah, get the out fresh juice. You want juice? You want. You like celery? Yeah, I don't want none of that. Yeah, I want to see it. I want some Marboros.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gave me a pack of Marlboro Reds. I said, God damn it, I take what I can get.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

At this point, you know What I'm saying? At any cost.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to all the. The. The. The patrons, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to all the folks that pulled up and kicked it with us on the block after the show.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Our apologies. We had it back to show up. Y' all stuck around. Y' all put stuff. Y' all still pulled up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was still a packed house, still sold out. It wasn't. It wasn't a seat available in that.

[Big Cat]

Standing in the back.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

A lot of love. Shout out to Brooklyn, man.

[Big Cat]

Brooklyn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Speaking of New York.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Deontay Kyle]

Damn. Diddy document.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Here we go.

[Deontay Kyle]

50 Cent, man, you know, 50 Cent is showing me I ain't hating hard enough.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? One thing about me, I need to hate harder. Gotta hate, gotta. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

There's levels to hate.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's levels to it. Top tier.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, ain't hating like that.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, Justified. Justified hatred. Yeah. All right, I'm telling you two things about Diddy to take away from this.

He. He. He don't want nobody to be bigger than him. And he willing to take your life. He willing to take your girl. Damn. He don't have a girl that wasn't somebody else's girl already.

He took. He. He tried to take. He took Eric Simon, girl.

[Big Cat]

They did.

[Deontay Kyle]

He took Albie Short, girl.

[Big Cat]

That he did.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think he took 50. One of 50 girls, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

His baby mama, the second one.

[Deontay Kyle]

You see what I'm saying, bro? Like, if there's a. The thing about Diddy is he's a. That want what you got.

Now, this is the thing.

And we could preface it like this. We cannot take away from the fact that this man is extremely talented and a visionary. Creatively, he understood how to take the culture and the essence of the streets and merge it into capital, merge it into the corporate world. He made like, you know what I'm saying? Jodeci, he took that. Jodeci, he took they whole shit from the street, they aesthetic. He did the same thing with Mary J. Blige. He was taking these sounds that sounded hip hop in nature, but merging them with R and B.

He popularized these artists, you know what I'm saying? Uptown Records.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Andre Harrell. Andre Harrell being like OG of putting N in a bad deal, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but this is the thing, and this is just record labels. This is a. This Is this thing that existed in the music industry since the beginning of time. They always try to over the artists.

The music industry in and of itself has to be predatory. And the thing is, is like the artist is what's gonna bring all the capital, but feel like they more important than artists because we, we know how to market it. We're gonna put the money behind you. Well, that's the business side, but you don't, you don't get to control the art. Without artists, there is no art. There is nothing to sell. But they feel like the artists don't deserve shit. One thing that I can say about Diddy is that he took the knowledge that he learned from them about fucking up the artist. He took it to a whole nother level.

[Big Cat]

A whole nother level fuckery, bruh.

[Deontay Kyle]

He put shit in the contracts that said, you will be famous. You won't make no money. Oh, wow. When, when they gave the, the contract to I think Danity Kane or, or the band, it said the lawyers is telling this past. This is Pat. This is promising you fame, but not fortune.

[Big Cat]

They still signed it.

[Deontay Kyle]

They still signed it. He signed Cassie at 19 to a 10 album deal. Wow. 10 albums. I don't think she's never put an album out. No.

[Big Cat]

No, that's a slave.

[Deontay Kyle]

He, he, he, he, he utilizes his power to make things happen and holds it over people head and uses to control them, use it to manipulate them and uses the whole power of them. And then he starts with in the street.

Because he want desperately to be a street. He want his father to be a street. He wanted himself to be a street. And then you start thinking about like the, his mama did. And his mama kept him dressed up like street like as a, as a baby. Yeah, she would dress him like however, however was dressing in Harlem. That's how she had him dressing in Mount Vernon as a baby. Had him and his, him and his brother, his like God brother performing at parties since they was kids. This why the nigga can't stop going to can't stop partying. Nigga been partying since he was born.

[Big Cat]

He's been partying his whole life.

[Deontay Kyle]

Been partying and performances. He. He fucking nigga over and hit you one of these. Yeah, yeah, he fucking over hit him with one of these. I would. You know how mad I be? Yeah, you know how mad I be, nigga? Sexually, inside me and I see this nigga on a billboard in Times Square.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shorty said she threw up when she seen the billboard. Oh. Cause the nigga on the billboard like this.

Sexually assaulted her bro and was playing the tapes of him sexually assaulting her at parties.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy work.

[Deontay Kyle]

Trying to be like Alpo. This is what they were saying. Like, Alpo would be Alpo. Girl, play the part, play the tape at a party. Yeah, we seen this in Paid in Full.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Did he think that's some fly. He, he. But he ain't consensually. He raping. He drugged Shorty up, raped her. And then playing at the party, this somebody was. She was gonna be a star. She had a nervous breakdown, mental breakdown, and, like, was scared to be seen in public because he was embarrassing the. Out of her. Crazy humiliating the fuck out of. Every time somebody died, he came up. He got his first. He get his first bit of fame from that city college when him. And when him and Heavy D put together celebrity basketball game, okay, and them nine people died. Yeah, he got famous from that.

That's crazy. Famous. Literally rose his stock up through tragedy.

This is how. This is how he started getting a big. This is where he discovered Jodeci. This one, he discovered Mary J. Blige off the hook. Took him through the roof. Now, everybody who's anybody want to be in the Diddy business, you know what I'm saying?

This is when he. He get too big. Headed for Andre Harrell. Andre Harrell said, hey, you gotta get the on.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

This one, he started Bad Boy. He started Bad Boy. He find Biggie. They say Biggie.

Was a struggle off the rip. Like, Juicy wasn't a hit right away.

[Big Cat]

No, it wasn't.

[Deontay Kyle]

But Big Papa was the one that took him through that. They figured out the formula to Big Papa from the I Get around video by Tupac. If you go look at them two videos, same shit. Same shit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's just a slightly different aesthetic the nigga great artists do still. You know what I'm saying? Great artist still. But the thing about Diddy is, like, he has the vision, but with that vision comes a God complex and an ego and a. And a selfishness and an emptiness, too, because he trying to be this street nigga that he not. But he want all this street niggas got. And if you kind of go look at, like, me personally, ever since I was a little kid, this just me. I always felt something off about that. Like, I always just like, it's something about this I don't like. Like, he too on camera. He too cool.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Making the band. I was like that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, making the band showed it all.

[Deontay Kyle]

When I see making a band like you go, what you mean walked up, man? That and I was a kid.

[Big Cat]

Walked to Manhattan, to Brooklyn, put some cheesecake.

[Deontay Kyle]

Do you know how long that walk is?

[Big Cat]

That's a long walk.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it's cold.

[Big Cat]

That's a long walk.

[Deontay Kyle]

I would have jumped out the bridge.

[Big Cat]

I would have threw him off the bridge.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get rid of this. Yeah, get rid of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing is, is like.

The, the talent that he had.

Through tragedy.

Biggie died. He got even more famous. This is when we start that bad boy, like real bad boy. Yeah, like this. When we start getting all these G deps and all these different artists. This one they start, this one they pop mace off this one like he, he rose this.

This. First of all.

He took money out of Big's contract to pay for Big's funeral. Big pay for his own funeral.

[Big Cat]

That's insane.

[Deontay Kyle]

He called Big the day that, the day of Big was supposed to go to UK to promote the album and to do like some media and to just kind of get away from. Because he was tired of the beef and shit. Yeah. He was already saying he felt like n was trying to kill him. Diddy was adamant about throwing a party on enemy turf. This how he getting get it in with the trying to be a gangster. I'm gonna throw a party over here. He canceled niggas flights. Told niggas if they, if they took Biggie on the plane, he was gonna fire him. Had Biggie come to this shit en route to the party, Nigga gets the car shot up. Biggie died. This nigga on MTV at the MTV awards, dressed in all white, dancing his ass off, frolicking on stage, frolicking.

[Big Cat]

Just God damn. God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

And always had wanted to be a rapper, always wanted to be an artist. And everybody was like, he sucks. Like he's terrible. He's a terrible artist. Not great. Nah. He like, if you go back and listen to that shit, then like this shit was ass.

[Big Cat]

No, he's trash.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's trash. So he used that as an opportunity to become the star. Should there say shit wrong.

[Big Cat]

He didn't. He didn't.

[Deontay Kyle]

Craig Mack was finna sign with Death Row. Biggie died. Craig Mack like, I'm cool. I ain't going nowhere.

Up had no bread.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Craig Mack had no bread. Flavoring ear, probably biggest song in the country.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

No bread. He has no money. He asked Diddy for money. Said Diddy pulled out a knot, a money peeled off 101, 100 bill and gave it to him in front of everybody.

[Big Cat]

That's insane.

Insane.

[Deontay Kyle]

Diabolical. Evil. That is evil, son.

[Big Cat]

Evil.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's an evil.

[Big Cat]

Well, that's why he didn't sign X. Because he couldn't control X like that. X would have beat his ass, would have killed. Yeah, and every day I see why Styles pee through that cherry puff.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's a thief, bro. Yeah, when they call that, I think they weren't lying about him. Yeah, he's a thief. He's a thief. Yeah, but he also.

He'S just a diabolical nigga. Like when it comes to the. The freak offs and the sex shit too, it was just like. Oh, like one of the escorts was talking like, bruh, they be on ecstasy. He said, bruh. He was like, me and Cassie get out the ecstasy, we'll fuck for two days. Easily.

[Big Cat]

Two days of fucking.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's crazy, bro.

[Big Cat]

One round, I'm done, I'm clocked out.

[Deontay Kyle]

I give you two. Give me. You know what I'm saying? I can get two in. Yeah. I need a nap, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Gotta have a nap. Just days of shorty.

[Deontay Kyle]

He said they was on the ecstasies. First of all, how pure was this ecstasy? Second of all.

The. The baby oil got GHB in it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So it's just seeping through your pores. Just drugged up. You feel like Superman at this point.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look, the escort said he put the baby on. On like a regular person. And Cassie was like, that's not enough. Just start spraying the down baby oil.

[Big Cat]

That's not enough.

[Deontay Kyle]

She's. Yes.

She was high. Yeah, he got her at 19, basically while he's still married to Kim Porter. This nigga's a sick son.

[Big Cat]

He's an ill.

[Deontay Kyle]

He a foul. He had a foul ass mama too. I heard. Yeah, I heard she was a little foul. She's abusive, bro.

The thing is everything, all of his actions in adulthood you can trace back to his childhood.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I can see that.

[Deontay Kyle]

But.

Every time that somebody died, he get more famous. Ain't made all this money with these white people, he just kind of exploit the black community. Like with Ciroc, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

I mean, he learned from them.

[Deontay Kyle]

He learned it from them. Yeah, they said making three to $400 million a year with Sean John.

[Big Cat]

Sean John was popular though.

[Deontay Kyle]

Sean John was the shit. It was. I had good pieces on Sean John. I have some Sean John pieces. Never had the Sean John button up.

[Big Cat]

Nah, that's nasty. That's nasty work.

[Deontay Kyle]

Any of you is out here. Sean John buttoned up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you're a nasty.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're a nasty nigga. Now I'm gonna say this.

What he's. What he's going through right now is like. Is like 10% of the karma that he truly deserves. This nigga, he was a fucked up ass nigga, bro. He is a fucked up ass nigga. He's still alive.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So all the people that he fucked over to get to the top, even the people that started the company with him, he was like threatening them to get their stocks back. His niggas were active lawsuits.

It's like 50 pending cases. Jesus.

He's cooked.

[Big Cat]

He's done for.

[Deontay Kyle]

He should be done forever. I ain't gonna hold you after watching this documentary. If you associate yourself with this, I'm looking at you sideways.

I wouldn't do business with a. Your best bet is to stay away from this.

[Big Cat]

Not even documentary. After you see him beat Cassie, that hotel.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's what I'm saying. But like, the thing is, it's like Will still. And they trying to make it seem like first of all, you. That's like, oh, they trying to take our black kings. Think ain't no king thinking no black kings ain't never did for the black community. Never. The only time this ever pop outside. Yo, they had. They was following the. With the camera. The was outside fake loving it up. Peace sign. Peace sign dapping up. Soon as he got in the car, he's like, you got some hand sanitizer? He's like, I gotta go home. I gotta get a bath. I gotta wash. I gotta wash this energy off me. I gotta cleanse. I've been trying to give a. Like, I didn't gave like 150 hugs. I gotta. I gotta clean my body. Like, he just literally was like, these niggas are filthy. Yeah, that's how he was looking at it. He didn't want to deal with bro, but he'll. He'll use niggas. He used niggas like Jim Jones take him to the block in Harlem so he could be outside and make it seem like he a man of the people. That ain't no man of the people. And that nigga's a parasite, shorty. That nigga is a leech. He just like them white people. Yeah, that nigga's a paper gangster, bruh. He ain't no real gangster. Yeah, he against the. In the sense that he'll fuck you over in that. In that. In that black and white, though. He'll fuck you up in that black and white. He'll manipulate. He did all he. His whole career is just manipulation. Manipulation, lies, power tactics, and unfortunately, death. The trail of blood behind this nigga is crazy.

[Big Cat]

It's a lot of blood.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a lot of blood, bro. And it's a lot of women. A lot of women violated by this man, bro. And, and, and, and if you seen any woman that was signed to Bad Boy, probably outside of like, not uptown Bad Boy, yeah, they was him because he let Audrey go because she wouldn't fuck him. So I just let you know, like, anybody that was like, that was his shit. Like, you, you gotta. Him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you gotta.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta. That's crazy.

[Big Cat]

You gotta.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's. And, and then that's all you get.

[Big Cat]

Just to be a star.

[Deontay Kyle]

Fame and dick. You don't get no money.

[Big Cat]

Nothing.

[Deontay Kyle]

And they say he. He said. They say he move your money around like it's in a shell company. He said, take you. It'll take you 10, 15 years to find your money.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's diabolical with it.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's a nasty man. That is evil, son.

[Big Cat]

Well, he learned from Clyde Davis.

[Deontay Kyle]

He learned from Clive Davis.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And unfortunately, he learned from Andre Harrell too. Yep. Cause Andre Harrell was on the same type tip. It just wasn't. He wasn't as diabolical. Yeah. And then Suge had eaten, like, could eat when they was with Suge, and that's why he ain't like him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Might get your ass. What was your.

[Deontay Kyle]

You might get your ass. But you're gonna get some money. Yeah, you can eat. You get some money. You just gotta, you know.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know.

It's still a sweatshop.

[Big Cat]

It's still a sweatshop.

[Deontay Kyle]

But you make money at the sweatshirt. It's a pirate sweatshirt. It's a pirate sweatshirt. There's a lot of that. That Diddy out there on the Mansfield Crips.

Ain't that how it happened? That's how it happened. That's how get got. Yeah, man. You know what I'm saying? If you ever signed a Bad Boy, man, you know, Condolences, bro. Yeah, Like, God damn, there's a conversation going on.

Foolish conversation. I know, but I like to incur. I like to entertain some every now and then. Okay, would you rather have $1 trillion.

Or a 10 minute conversation with Jesus?

[Big Cat]

$1 trillion.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, absolutely. Every time, without hesitation. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Wait, why is that a question?

[Deontay Kyle]

Because the Christians.

Yeah, but I think that Christians are just trying to prove their dedication to the religion. But like, come on, man, let's not be stupid. Do you know how much money a trillion dollars is is Facts.

Do you know how much money a trillion dollars is? Like, let's not. Like. Let's not be cartoonish or foolish. That is ungodly money. You are Jesus now.

[Big Cat]

You're the second coming.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah, Me?

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm changing my name to Jesus.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Just Jesus.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm just Jesus.

[Big Cat]

No last name Jesus.

[Deontay Kyle]

I got no middle name. Yeah, just Jesus, nigga. Homelessness, hunger. That's over.

[Big Cat]

Done.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ain't no more hunger.

[Big Cat]

Done up.

[Deontay Kyle]

And if anything, we got to bring Michelle Obama back, implement a school food program. Oh. Cause niggas is eating.

Coast to coast in America is going to be farmland. We concentrating people, bro. I'm. This is my America now.

[Derek Falcon]

It's my country.

[Deontay Kyle]

How much is Earth? Yeah. How much Earth cost trying to buy Earth, But I'm definitely purchasing America. Yeah. Oh, nigga, it's over. I'm purchasing this whole Southeast. We're. We're. We are. We're gonna rebuild. We're gonna rebuild Birmingham, Montgomery. We're gonna rebuild Atlanta, Macon, Savannah. All the black spots is getting reparations. Believe that.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Every black person in America getting $2.5 million.

[Big Cat]

You still gonna have something left over.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hold on. Let's do some quick math.

[Big Cat]

You still gonna have something.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay. All right. We ain't got enough money.

[Big Cat]

We ain't got enough.

[Deontay Kyle]

We ain't got enough for 2.5. You're probably him.

[Big Cat]

20,000.

[Deontay Kyle]

20.

[Big Cat]

$20,000.

[Deontay Kyle]

Everybody get a quarter million.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we ran out of money.

[Deontay Kyle]

Matter of fact, we're in the red. Hold on, hold on. We gotta give it to the trial. Hold on one second. All right, let's still. Okay. We can't keep.

But you ain't gonna be hungry. You ain't gonna be sick. Can't give you no money. That's like goddamn money. It's more money than we got. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? In the red now, severely. Yeah, no, we outside. But we give y'. All. If we give y' all money, actually, everybody won't get it. Yeah. So you know what I'm saying? It's 48 million.

You know what I'm saying? We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. We're gonna fix your living situation.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm definitely going to raise the. The wages.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I got more money than everybody. I make the rules. When you got a trillion dollars, you make the rules.

[Big Cat]

You make the rules.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, federal minimum wage $35. Oh, yeah. Don't matter where you work.

[Big Cat]

That's good living.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's a good living.

[Big Cat]

That's good living.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, if you're the doctor and, and, and, and, and you foolish ass, it's like, well, if they make $35, that mean. You know what I'm saying? That don't. Then what do my job mean? I mean, you need to make more, nigga. Mean you need more. They don't need less. Stop being a bitch. I run the country now. You gonna get more money. Yeah, if you made $35 before 65 now. Ooh, yeah. We raising and raising the roof. We raising the roof, nigga, we raising the roof. It's Deontay's America. Ain't nobody hungry. Everybody got transportation.

Walkable cities, great public transportation. You see what I'm saying? Great public transportation. Oh, yeah, we, we fixing all that. We fixing all that. Me and Arthur Blank, we're gonna have a sit down. Look, them white people, man, fuck them white people in these outskirts. They can move if they want to. We bringing more blacks to Atlanta and we gonna fix this public transportation. And any of your cronies that's in seats, God be with them. Sam Foster gonna be the mayor of Marietta. Okay? We're getting it in. We buying elections. I'm buying the elections.

[Big Cat]

Gotta buy elections.

[Deontay Kyle]

Buying it. Listen, this is gonna be a great place. America's gonna be amazing. You know what I'm saying? America's gonna be amazing. We live in a great. We live in a great society. You know what I'm saying?

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But also, it's like I just pick, just. I'm just pick five cities I want to live in. You know what I'm saying? I'll give me a crib in Joburg. Oh, crib and crib and farmlands in Jamaica. Oh, crib in Belize. I like that. Crib in Atlanta. Gotta have a crib in New York.

[Big Cat]

Gotta have a crib in New York.

[Deontay Kyle]

You ain't going to LA Crib in Houston.

[Big Cat]

You ain't gonna cribly.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, I wanna be in la. Okay. Not a big fan of it. Okay. I'll visit there. I'll be in, being out.

All right, that's cool. La's, you know what I'm saying? It's not for me. LA is over when I'm. It's gonna be in Atlanta.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's gonna be Atlanta.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's gonna be Atlanta. You know what I'm saying? You pull up Stone Mountain, it's gonna say Deontay Stone Mountain.

[Big Cat]

We have the crips on the front.

[Deontay Kyle]

You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? It's gonna have the illest from Atlanta of all time. And we getting rid of the Confederate soldiers putting ti up there. Gotta put ti me.

[Big Cat]

See, I didn't.

[Deontay Kyle]

Me ti demi Outkast, Gucci man. Okay.

You know what I'm saying? Who else? Who's that? Some famous Atlanta of all time.

OG Double D. Oh, OG Double D on there. Shout it low. We taking up the whole mountain.

[Big Cat]

The whole mountain.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's gonna look like. It's gonna look like. You remember when we walked in Atlanta, flu is everything.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

And they had all this Stone Mountain. Stone Mountain.

[Big Cat]

Just many car of p portraits.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. From. From the inception of Atlanta. From the 20s. You ain't never heard of on the barber shop. Yeah. Bingo. I think the first self made millionaire in Atlanta on barbershops. We put him up there.

[Big Cat]

Alonzo Hernan.

[Deontay Kyle]

Alonzo Hernan. Put Alonzo Hernan up there.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, B. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Centerpiece. And then we all just around him. But it's definitely me.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? I'm next. We put Alonzo her first.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Then me. Then me next to Alono her. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? And then at the bottom of it, it's going to say Jesus loves atl. Hey, cuz, I'm Jesus.

[Big Cat]

I'm now Jesus.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bro, bro. First of all, the I'm going to do in America, they going to talk about me for 2,000 years. For sure, for sure, for sure.

[Big Cat]

And they rewrite the bible.

[Deontay Kyle]

They a book. It's going to be video evidence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just ended hunger right there, right there, right there.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now if you around me not going to lie to you twin if you my friend, I'm giving you a Billy that's good living. I'mma give you a Billy that's good living. Big cat Billy.

[Big Cat]

Billy.

[Deontay Kyle]

How much more you need, Billy? I wish a nigga dare ask. I'm going to give you 1.5 billion just so you don't spend a dollar. And now you're a millionaire.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

God forbid, God forbid, God forbid.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm a millionaire now Jesus, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Jesus got that on millionaires.

[Deontay Kyle]

We're gonna give you five and make you to play with me.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? But yeah, man, I'm Just giving a Billy. If you. If I with you.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, Deanna, she getting two Billy. Hey, you know what I'm saying? Give her three. All the kids. Billy, Billy, Billy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you gotta give Billy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Billy, Billy.

[Big Cat]

You gotta give D3.

[Deontay Kyle]

The way we're gonna be throwing out, Billy's gonna think we nine trade gangsters.

[Big Cat]

Jim Jones is the treasurer.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not Trey. Billy's niggas giving out billies.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta be a street to get that reference.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, man, I'm going full. I'm going. I'm. I'm doing. I'm doing. I'm going silly with the trilly. Oh, I'm going silly with the trilly.

[Big Cat]

Silly with the trili.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, man. If I don't like you.

Man, I'm gonna make your life hell. Damn. I'm make your life a living hell.

[Big Cat]

She gonna do to himself.

[Deontay Kyle]

You ain't gonna. Your house won't be able to connect the wi fi.

[Big Cat]

No Wi fi your crib.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, none. I'm putting a data center on your block. I'm getting rid of all the houses on your block. I'm buying all the houses, turn them in many data centers.

[Big Cat]

Turn your house into a data center.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gonna be the only one living there. Straight pollution, no good water, no good air.

[Big Cat]

God damn. But you ain't gonna make it.

[Deontay Kyle]

You ain't gonna make it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't mean and. And I'm. And I'm. And I'm gonna take over the lease of whatever house you live in. I'm refuse to let you out of it. I'm paying the lawyer. Come on, son. You. What you think? You go to work with me now you stuck. I'm having you in litigation for the next 10 years. By that time, the cancer been and got you.

And it's a 24 hour data center. I mean, working around the clock. You ain't going no. You ain't gonna get no sleep. You can't get no wi fi.

[Big Cat]

There's a lot of noise.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cancer in the air.

[Big Cat]

It's just cancer.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cancer in the water.

[Big Cat]

You might as well live in Chernobyl.

[Deontay Kyle]

Might as well kill yourself. Yeah, I'm doing psychological warfare on.

[Big Cat]

Are suffering the dentist.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? A little light, little dark. You got to keep it balanced.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm buying a football team. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Go call man. I don't know, man. I ain't thought about it yet. I ain't thought that right here.

[Big Cat]

Turning off the blank.

[Deontay Kyle]

I gotta get it. I gotta find a way to keep that money circulating.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm shining Shador right off the rip.

[Big Cat]

Gotta have him.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm putting LeBron at tight end. Just getting one one year contract.

[Big Cat]

One year 40, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look at these.

[Big Cat]

Is done.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't care. I watch them do knee workouts today.

With a tree.

[Big Cat]

We could buy them new knees.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, it. I got a trilly.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it gonna be Cyborg. Cyborg. He's saying from the waist down, that nigga's metal.

Slam.

[Big Cat]

Your.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bionic hip. Bionic hip. Good hip flexors on that. I'm getting my hips replaced. Niggas got chrome hips. I'm all day with it. Bink.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Little metal. You try to hit a metal clink.

Let me oil up real quick. I'm gonna get this bitch to bent.

[Big Cat]

Get this WD40 on my hips real quick.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bink, bink, bink. Son, I'm going crazy with a trilly, man. What?

[Big Cat]

Metal hips?

[Deontay Kyle]

What? No, I gotta make sure my hip flexors is insane, boy.

[Big Cat]

All right, Lieutenant Dan.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ye. My gonna be dumb.

Ain't never seen this position before. My legs go like this.

He never. He ain't never seen a Nigga flat out 180 on you, son. Flat 180, son. You ain't never seen that.

[Big Cat]

Why your legs go like that, though, son? Why you need. Why you need that?

[Deontay Kyle]

It's all dick.

[Big Cat]

All dick. And pelvic.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, Good pelvic floor, man. What? Oh, my God.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm going crazy with a trilly, man. Oh, shit. I'm gonna talk to Jesus about what we got to talk about.

[Big Cat]

He gave it to me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, he blessed me. God bless me, son. I'm the only nigga on earth with a trillion.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he blessed me with a trill.

[Deontay Kyle]

Got a trill, bruh. I'm gonna give white people they like. I'm giving white people they life back, son. We bringing back coal.

Appalachian gonna be booming.

A lot of steam.

[Big Cat]

A lot of steam. A lot of trains coming out of Appalachia.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then Jesus is not too bad.

[Big Cat]

Ain't a bad guy.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's not a bad guy. He's bringing jobs back to America.

[Big Cat]

We got moonshine.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah. Oh, so much moonshine.

Look, I got no reason to be racist now.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I got so much money, they can.

[Big Cat]

Bring moonshine at the hills.

[Deontay Kyle]

They can sit on the court at the bottom of the mountain. Yeah, sell it. It's legal.

[Big Cat]

It's gonna be drunk.

[Deontay Kyle]

America, what gonna be living, gonna be eating, huh?

[Big Cat]

A lot of moonshine, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, and listen, bruh, we bringing out that billionaire bowl. Oh, yeah, I'm exempt because I'm a created, you know what I'm saying? Sacrificing a billionaire every year. Every year, I get 10 of the income. The rest go back into society. We're just gonna keep society running off of billionaires, all right?

[Big Cat]

At this point, just give me the millionaire.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't want to be beat.

I don't want to be. When you make the rules you could break.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You make the rules, you break them in. I'm beating benevolence, man. I'm benevolence.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna be fly as every day, but I'm just be wearing regular everyday fly. I'm gonna bring. I'm gonna bring a designer. I'm just like, here, look, you work for Carhartt now, huh? This is Jesus. Every company I'm gonna have a division at, these clothes is just for me. True religion, just for me. I'm the only one that could wear this Jesus division. It's gonna be very flowy.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Very flowy clothing.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Very fly. You know what I'm saying? But it's y' all brand. Are we gonna get y' all some money, son? Yeah, yeah, we getting y' all money. Nobody can buy this. Just me. Yeah. How much you want?

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

100 million.

[Big Cat]

Got a contract with them.

[Deontay Kyle]

Got 100 million for you. Yeah. Close for the year.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

Send alterations through. Why you burp right in the mic?

[Derek Falcon]

I did.

[Big Cat]

I said, God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

My bad.

[Big Cat]

I'm sorry, y'. All.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, bro, I'm going crazy with a trilly, you know what I'm saying?

Can you imagine? Can you imagine it? Like, first of all, you gotta be very. You gotta try to find a way to remain humble, Keep yourself humble, right? You know what I'm saying? You gotta create some humility because you don't want to get caught up in the spoils. You know what I'm saying?

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? I'm still gonna. I'm still gonna. I'm still gonna hang out in the Peas.

[Big Cat]

You hang out in the Peas?

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm hanging out in the Peas.

[Big Cat]

You still on new lots?

[Deontay Kyle]

Nobody's gonna touch me. Nah, Nigga, I' ma have robots surrounding me like.

[Big Cat]

NYPD robots.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's gonna be a robot with me everywhere I go. It's just security. That ain't gonna read your cortisol level. Oh, this thing is jealous. Yeah, he's hating.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You want me to kill him? He got hate in his heart. He got hating. His heart.

[Big Cat]

Want me to kill him?

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm. I'm detecting hatred. Yeah, detecting jealousy. Detecting envy. Hey, yo, this is a hell of America.

[Big Cat]

It's a hell of America, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

My robot gonna be. My robot gonna be like, like, like, like, like five foot six.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's stocky.

[Deontay Kyle]

Good grab. Good.

[Big Cat]

Good gravity.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, good gravity. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Take off. You know what I'm saying? Good gravity.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

His legs. He can run on all fours.

[Big Cat]

His legs are also spread.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I need to make that in my image.

All right, let's move along. This is crazy, but you don't want to get caught up in the spoils of freedom, because if we, if we live back in reality, the spoils of freedom are enslavement. Because what's the only type of freedom that we care about in America?

[Big Cat]

Financial.

[Deontay Kyle]

We only care about financial freedom. That's our idea of freedom, is finance.

And this is where we get into a place where we start putting competition over community. Now, under the system of capitalism, it enriches the individual. You know what I'm saying? It enriched a Diddy to the point where even the people he was getting money with, he started thinking about, how can I get rid of them and bring all this in for myself? How, you know, these artists, they extremely talented. How can I. How can I siphon their resources, siphon their. Their earning potential, and then put it back in my pocket? An extremely competitive mindset. He see you with a girl, he want the girl. And though she may be beautiful, it's more important to him to take something from somebody than it would be to build with somebody, you know what I'm saying?

The competition of a community aspect got us going out for self but not looking out for each other. So, you know, I jokingly am saying all these things, but, like, my true mentality is like, how can we help others? You know, you got all this stuff, like, as an individual, there's only so many things that's going to make you happy. Materialism is not going to make you happy. Once you have a abundance of access to it, you actually become anti material because, like, even. Even with everything you Got. You still, like, feel. You're gonna feel like you ain't got. That's true. It's like, oh, like, you ever seen somebody with a closet full of clothes and they'd be like, I ain't got nothing to wear.

[Big Cat]

Crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes, you do. You have too much to wear, and that's the problem. Yeah, you got too much to wear now you feel like if it's a brand new, if it's not off the rack, then you can't put it on your body. And the thing is, is, like, we don't put competition over community. We don't put materialism over assets. I feel like there is material wealth, material success, material things. Nothing wrong with if you only have materials. That's the problem. What's your assets? You know what I'm saying? Do you have. Do you have a home in your house? Do you have some land? You know what I'm saying? A home in your house? A home in your name?

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Do you have some land in your name?

You know what I'm saying? Do you? Do you have. Do you. Are you philanthropic, where you have a charity in your name? Where you giving back? How much money are you spending on the bag? If you spend 30. 30 racks on a Birkin bag, you should spend 30 on gold, 30 on silver, and, you know, actual resources that maintain their value, if not grow their value over time.

If you at a point where you can spend $30,000 on a bag, you should be invested in some sort of stock that you can hand off to your kids. These things matter, you know what I'm saying? The things that will last beyond your. Your life matter, because how are you going to look out for the people that come after you and give them a head start? I know the struggle, the mentality is, you know, that we want our kids to earn things, but there's a better way of earning things than withdrawing things. There's a better way of earning things than, like, kind of manufacturing a struggle. The struggle ain't what made you great. You was great already.

Capitalism is the reason why you struggled. You was gonna be great either way it went. It may have took you a little longer because you was born poor. Only 4% of people. Only 4% of people that are born poor in Atlanta will make it out of poverty. Now think about that. All this opportunity out here. Now think about debt. As far as wealth distribution, think about it. That as far as wealth transfers, think about it. That is a microcosm of the macro of America. How many people are born poor and die Poor. You understand what I'm saying? So this is where we get to a point where we think about how we feel versus how we look.

[Big Cat]

Mm.

[Deontay Kyle]

How you feel on the inside, it's bigger than just the emotional feeling. But how do you feel in your body?

Do you feel healthy? Do you feel pain? Do you feel limber, like you can move around? Are you ready to go? Do you have high energy? Are you paying attention to how you feel?

A lot of us ignore how we feel to worry about how we look.

And how you look may have a great effect on others. Man. Listen, bro, we live in a very vain. We live in a very surface level society where people will give you more for how you look.

You walk into a spot and everybody got in Birkin bags, and you got on the Coach bag. You may not like the. You might not like the Birkin bag. You may not like the Coach bag. You may like the Coach bag. Like this, my shit. I think it's a great bag. They'll judge you because of how you look.

They might withdraw access.

Seemingly. Whatever they can do, you know, we all individuals at the end of the day, you know what I'm saying? If you ain't trying to keep up with the Joneses, you don't even hang out with them. But you might feel 10 times better than them. Cause they ain't focusing on how they feel. They focus on how they look. Misery, the misery of materialism.

It feel good, but it feel bad. The feeling wear off fairly quick.

It feel good.

But after a while, it's just a thing.

Buy some product shades to go to the Route 100.

Felt good to buy them.

[Big Cat]

Mm.

[Deontay Kyle]

Warm a few times. Felt good. A lot of compliments. It's just a thing. Yeah, didn't. It doesn't. It didn't make me. It look good, but how I felt was the more important thing. I was excited to be there. How I look. I've earned my way into this room, but I also understand the. The other shit. Yeah. First of all.

The Route 100 was amazing. It's a black event. Black people's in there looking good. Only thing I'm not. I'm not happy about is that niggas ain't stick to the dress code.

[Big Cat]

Niggas wasn't New York chic.

[Deontay Kyle]

That wasn't New York chic. I felt like I was the only nigga that was New York chic. N was wearing suits.

[Big Cat]

No niggas was suited up, man. Ah, that ain't shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

My nigga Doss, man. Doss. One of the Best dressed in the bitch. He got on his suit. That wasn't New York chic. Yeah, I was New York chic.

[Big Cat]

That N A was a monopoly man.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was New York chic, son. Tell you about my fit. LX3 trench. Okay.

LX3 trench.

[Big Cat]

Shout out to him.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out, LX3. LX3 trench man. Yeah, follow that right now on IG LX3NYC. Yeah. Great garments. Black man made them. Great designer, great designer. Yeah. Jamaica, Jamaica.

Listen, I go trench, okay? I go Tom Schneider linen shirt that you do. Tom Schneider socks that you did. I go cropped H and M pants. You don't even know they H and M. Because my mans tailored them and cropped them. You don't even know it's H and M that he did. You know what I'm saying? Custom.

I go brown leather, adidas, samba, proteges. I'm fire fucking that bitch.

[Big Cat]

Nah, you was fly.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm New York chic. You was fly. These wasn't New York chic. It's the only complaint I got cuz I feel like I should have won best dress cuz I was. I was on dress code. Yeah, I ain't had no suit on. I ain't no suit, you know what I'm saying? I'm only wearing suit two places. Court, funeral. Yeah, that's it.

[Big Cat]

That's it.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Everything else, I'm a be fly. I'm business casual at best. I'm New York chic, you know what I'm saying? That's me, Atlanta, Chicago, you know what I'm saying? The over consumption.

Started with propaganda. How to sell to the Negro. Facts. They sell into your internal. This is what I'm talking about. How you feel versus how you look. They sell into how you feel about yourself. Not how you feel within self, but how you feel about yourself when you downtrodden. Shit. Fuck with your self esteem. When you ain't got and you get. You gotta show you got it.

You will probably likely never catch deontay. Kyle. Do a money spread ever. Because I'd rather have that money on my card. I'm. I'm not trying to. Who wants to walk around like that now? You just. You. You're in a situation of cultivating bad jealous energy. Look, my. My debit card. Broken. It is, it's broken. My shit got a big chunk mixing out of it. My credit cards, they dusty, you know what I'm saying? It's money on all of them.

But it don't need to. Look, when I whip that debit card out. You don't know how much on there it look like. I ain't got shit. You look broke. I look broke. Good for me. Yep. Cause I don't give a fuck. Cause when you swipe that, it don't even tap. The tap feature stopped working. I don't give a fuck. Cause when you swipe that bitch or you insert that chip, the money is there. That's what I give a fuck about. That's all give a fuck about. This bitch looking pristine, immaculate. Nigga, do it work.

That iPhone that I got, that bitch gonna have to. It's gonna have to shut down. Yeah, I'm not buying a new phone until the one I got stopped working. But that's the over consumption that sell to the negro. A lot of you niggas just want the iPhone. Cause it's orange. You want, nigga? Oh, yeah, it's the new iPhone. It's orange, nigga. Fuck that nigga. I mean, n. Had to lose their life for you to get that iPhone. Use what you got till it's all. Till it's gone. You gotta use what you got till it's gone. Because how you feel about yourself on the inside is way more important than how you look. But they play on how you feel about yourself so you can curate how you look. Just because you can afford it don't mean it's not a scam.

Just because you can afford it doesn't mean it's not a scam. It's still a scam. Why are you getting bottle service? Why are you getting bottle service?

How much? First of all, if you bring me a bottle, we don't been in. We haven't been in these spots before.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say one night we was out with. With Kehlani. Yeah, we had Kehlani in the hood. We was. We was buying bottles. It was a good day. Yeah, Spotify check cleared. We going out tonight.

We going up tonight. We clean version. We going up tonight. We going up tonight, man. Carolani spit the bill. It's no big deal. But you know what I told shorty? When you bring these bottles, don't bring all them sparklers over. Bring me the bottles. Please, please don't do none of that shit. That's going to draw attention. We don't need that. We want to drink the liquor, okay. We don't want to put on a show. We finna get drunk in the spot.

And that's a scam. I got. I got got that night. And I knew I was getting got when I got got. It's okay. I was there for the moment. We'll never forget that night. And I get it. Making memories. You can't make memories every weekend, man. And for what?

You got Sparklers? You're paying $200 for $80 bottle?

[Big Cat]

Insane.

[Deontay Kyle]

You paying $400 for $80 bottle. Paying $200 for a bottle of $40 Hennessy is crazy.

Paying $400 for what? The 60? $70 bottle of Don Julio. That's crazy. It's insanity.

Go to a white club. I don't even think they offer bottle service at white clubs.

They don't. White people don't have to worry about like this. White people would give me dirty martini on the rocks, two extra olive. You know, they let them order they drinks. By drinks, these probably.

[Big Cat]

I mean the most they doing is a bottle of wine.

[Deontay Kyle]

Probably. Listen, bro, we're not dope dealers, okay? This all, all this come from dope dealer culture that want to waste the money because they made it illegally.

If I'm 17.

I'm in the club. I got the Dapper Dan fit on. I got 400 racks on me, on you, on me. Damn.

[Big Cat]

Of course you go splurge.

[Deontay Kyle]

It doesn't mean anything. It's actually not real. It's not money. First of all, how many lives got endangered to that point of you getting. That's real capitalism. This is the, the crack era is, is the, is the blueprint of capitalism. Exploiting others for your own riches.

This is, this is the peak exploitation.

This is why they say that a, that was a nigga that running. Running a successful few blocks like a. Running a successful couple spots. A nigga that's making a couple M's a year off selling dope. He's a CEO for sure. In America he would make 20 M's a year legally. Good benefit package. Because they don't give a about nobody else but themselves. So yeah, if, if, if, if for me to make 40, I gotta kill 200 jobs. I'm just gonna kill the 200 jobs. We'll figure it out. Food delivery, it's not pizza. They don't charge you extra to getting delivering a pizza. That pizza, like maybe like five, six dollar surcharge. And then you tip your driver, that's pizza. You want a pizza, you want a pie coming hot to the house. You got chick Fil A coming to the house for. Take your ass up the street and go get the Chick Fil A. You just turned a 15 order into $40 because you ain't want to leave the house. And when you get that waffle fries cold, they soggy, they hang it.

What they doing?

[Big Cat]

Sir.

[Deontay Kyle]

Please catch up, please. Polynesian, please. Waffle fire. Soggy as a.

I need my waffle fi standing up straight. I want my shit fresh. But we do all these things because we feel like we can afford it. It's convenience. This is how I make you feel versus how you look. Now that how you feel thing can vary.

How you look is important, but which one you weighing out and why.

Is how you look important to how you look for yourself? Are you looking how you want to look? Because when I pulled up to the root, I visioned that fit. I told you about this fit. I said, they say New York, Chicago, this what I'mma wear. I got the vision. It wasn't about brand names. It was, this is what I need. This is how I'm pull this off. This is where I found the pieces. I was going to go pro. I was going to go proing. I was going to get product shoes. We looked at the price of the product. Shoes said absolutely not. No, there's absolutely not. And I said I was going to do it. At first I was like, you know, it's the root.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I sat with that thought for like two days. I ain't no way, none. I don't give a. If I had a million dollars, you don't need it. Eleven hundred dollars for shoes, you don't need it. I went and bought some pumas just as far 125, there you go. 125, there you go. I care about my money. I earned that. And, and, and it don't matter because the aura. The aura game is crazy. Because I feel good. I feel good about myself. Nigga, they gonna make anything look good. How many bad bitches out here wearing $17 worth of clothes from Sheen whole $17 fit. The only thing you recognize is the shoes.

[Big Cat]

That's it.

[Deontay Kyle]

But they feel good about themselves. That cart, stupid. A $200 shin cart. Jesus Christ. The slave labor that went into that.

[Big Cat]

Yo, relax.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm just playing. I just, you know, we gotta stay rooted.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Fast fashion is terrible, but we all engage in it one way or the other. We're, you know, I don't. We don't have blood on our hands. We live in America. The blood is for America you got. If you still drinking Starbucks, something wrong with you. If you in. If you're in Target right now.

If you in Target right now.

Go to the cleaning supply aisle, grab A bottle of bleach. Take that to the ad.

Free Sudan, Free Palestine.

And free the Congo. Listen, man, how you feel. How you feel, it's a two pronged thing. How you feel physically on the inside, how you feel emotionally. And what voids are you trying to fill with that? You don't feel good on the inside. You fill in a void with food. You don't feel good emotion, you feel that with materials. How you look, is it for you or is it for others?

Just because you can afford it doesn't mean it's not a scam.

So for every material you got, do you have an asset? And not. And I'm not saying you bought a pair of shoes, now you need to go buy gold. I'm saying when you up and you really got it, are you putting competition over community?

Are you putting materialism over assets? Because sometimes the spoils of freedom can also be enslavement.

We'll be right back after this commercial break.

We back. Okay. Let's do it, baby. We got a couple call ins. Big Cat.

[Big Cat]

Let's do it. Let's do it.

[Caller Maya]

Hey, y', all, it's me again. So I called a few weeks ago just asking for advice about my daughter's father. And I just want to say thank y', all because the advice y' all gave me was what I already knew, and that's why we so aligned. And I'm so locked in with this podcast because y' all be saying what I already know up here. That's how I know. That's how I know I'm not crazy. But I just wanted to call in again because I'll be taking my calls or whatever.

I want to call in and say, thank y' all so much. I love the podcast. And y' all always, like, literally every time I watch your podcast, y' all are talking about something that I've already had a conversation with my girlfriends or whatever. Whatever. Like, we just be so locked in. Like, it's the telepathy. Like, it's there. We there. And when I say we there, I have my fingers crossed. So y' all know we locked in like that. So hopefully I can make one of your live shows soon, because, baby, I waited too long to buy the tickets for December 5th, and I heard y' all say y' all not doing over 250 episodes. Don't even play with me like that. Don't even play with me like that. But I ain't gonna hold y' all up. Y' all have a great rest of your day. And, yeah, shout out to y', all, and I'll see y' all at the next live show, period.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah, man. So we definitely. We definitely coming back to New York.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, for sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, thank you. You know, thank you for listening. You know that nigga wearing shit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I say all the time, when in doubt, big cat it out, baby, you gotta go. You know what I'm saying?

Big billboard cat. Yeah, man, talk about big breakfast club cat. Ow. Get you some.

[Big Cat]

Get you some.

[Deontay Kyle]

Is that the same word? Yeah, but yeah. No, no, no, no. Good on you, man. Freeing yourself, man. Freeing yourself from the shackles a bum ass. This is a crazy work, you know what I'm saying? All right, we're gonna do one more voice. Okay, then we got three red emails today, man. We got a couple red emails. You know what I'm saying? We got some cousin, they need some help.

[Big Cat]

All right, let's help them.

[Caller Maya]

Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory. What's up, y'?

[Deontay Kyle]

All?

[Caller Maya]

It's Maya. I really love y' all show. I really with y'.

[Deontay Kyle]

All.

[Caller Maya]

Y' all inspiring me to make my own podcast. It's going to be called Eminem Moments with Maya. Maya Moments. Don't know how or what I want to say, but my question to y' all is, how did y' all come up with the flow and, like, the outline of your podcast? Because I know y' all usually start with, like, the. Y' all do a little kind of outline, kind of redo what y' all been thinking about, what's been going on. Then y' all hop into the topic. Y' all talk about music, and then y' all close off with the callers, which hopefully I'm one of them. So I was curious to know how y' all ended up coming up with that strategy one, and how do y' all implement this strategy? Every single podcast? How are you all able to fit the topics into this? And then if you're so grateful that you can answer, the second question is, what should my first podcast topic be about? Should it be about me and, like, why I want to do a podcast? Should it be about these niggas? Should it be about. About school? Should it be about work? Should it be about the world? Like, what should y' all think? So, yeah, thank y'.

[Deontay Kyle]

All.

[Caller Maya]

Shout out to y'. All. I with y'. All. Put everybody on to y' all and big ice cup. Big ice cup. Yeah. Okay, thank you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bye. When in doubt. When in doubt, baby, listen, the thing is, is, like, don't have an idea and go. Yep. Once you start doing the show, once you're a practitioner, you'll understand what your practice is. You gotta be a practitioner. Once you start podding, you'll figure out what the podcast is. Just like with us, we started doing live shows. We. We had an idea of the live show, but me personally, I'm gonna sit with it. I'm a perfectionist in the sense that I wanna give y' all a good time. I had to figure out what the podcast show was.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Then I had to figure out what the live podcast was. You can't do the same shit. So we just kept throwing stuff at the wall. Like, we used to do the top five. We don't do the top five no more. We used to do movie breakdowns. We ain't doing that no more. We used to do album breakdowns. We won't do it no more because it's like we try to go for what's hitting with the people. And the thing is, my rants, my monologues about social commentary, about pop culture, what I do, that's what works. But it wasn't. If you go back and watch the early episodes, it was always just figuring it out. But you can't figure it out and then start. You gotta start and then figure it out. So get you a rough template, know what you want to talk about. All the stuff you said you could talk about it all. I would say, before people know who you are, you need to keep that podcast 20 to 30 minutes. Yes.

You know, our. Our first podcast was like, 30 minutes. When I was in that truck, we was doing 30 max.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Unless I really just got in the bag and just started going off. But before Big Cat, them used to be like 30 minutes, man. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't have to look like the product. It doesn't have to look like the final product.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You need to grow it, evolve it. You need to build on it, you need to add to it, you need to take away from it. But you don't need to do any of that shit until you start.

Okay, we started.

[Big Cat]

We started.

[Deontay Kyle]

We jumped out the plane, and then we put the parachute together. That just is what it is. If you don't figure out the parachute before you hit the ground, guess what? You just die. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Now you splat.

[Deontay Kyle]

Splat. Will you marry me?

[Big Cat]

Splat.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like a nanny.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Deontay Kyle]

Splat. Looking at that. Did jump out that fl. Hey, you. Peep shot was wearing jabos whole episode.

Hey, yo, if he'd have connected parachute to the jeans, he would have been good. Could have been. All right. Yeah. A lot of straps on them, Jabo.

[Big Cat]

Should have put some shoes on them, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look, man, just start. Yeah.

You thinking about topics. You create the show, okay? It's your show. You talk about what you want to talk about. Now, when you talk about why you started the podcast, you definitely need to start out talking about how we influenced you to do this.

[Big Cat]

Give us our flowers.

[Deontay Kyle]

Give us our flowers. What are you doing? Why?

Man, you better take your ass to that kid in the table and eat. Yeah, don't. Don't. Don't try to use me recording as no excuse. You know we don't eat upstairs. Yeah, yeah. Try getting it twisted.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

You recording.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, that's all you know. Take this big plate up because record them. Take this big ass, stupid ass plate of fettuccine dump plate, crazy plate hanging out the plate. Now I'm gonna go upstairs with it. No, you're not. You gonna take your ass to the table. Why the I got a kitchen table for if is eating upstairs?

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Might as well just get ready to kick the table.

[Big Cat]

Complete anarchy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bye.

[Big Cat]

Look at trustee.

[Deontay Kyle]

Say hi to the people. You want to say hi to the people? Yeah. And we in the middle of the podcast. You can say hi to the people when we. When we exclusively on stream, but not during the podcast. It's too many weirdos. Okay, Peace. Punch Captain Crunch. We'll talk to you in a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But give us our flowers, and then you can talk about whatever you want to talk about. But appreciate you. Thank you. You know what I'm saying? Appreciate y'. All. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Much love.

[Deontay Kyle]

And also, you know what I'm saying? Turn the post notifications on, please. Like, share, comment. Turn that bell on. On IG and on YouTube, and then you'll know about the show. You won't have to miss out. Yeah, but if you really don't want to miss out.

Join that Patreon. How much? That Patreon is $8. If you join that Patreon, you get first dibs on everything. Then you ain't never gonna miss out on. But y' all be missing out. Cause y' all waiting for the public. Y' all trying to be cheap. You know what I'm saying? Y' all trying. Y' all trying to. Damn. $8. You ain't got $8. Got $8. That's a delivery fee. Yep, that's delivery fee. That's a good tip. You know what I'm saying? Tip me for my services. Give me $8. I ain't ask for 80. I ain't asking for 20. I ain't asking for 15. $8. Not even 10.

[Big Cat]

Just 8.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just 8. Yeah, $8. $8.

Ain'T nothing but $8. All right, cousins, we going to. We going. We going to get into this.

Fighting the culture war as an artist, Okay? I don't know what that means, shorty.

[Big Cat]

Fighting the culture as artists in the.

[Deontay Kyle]

Last last few years got.

Kind of.

[Big Cat]

Off for the God to laugh through tears. Went through something with mama. No drama. Something came with real life karma.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, my bad.

[Derek Falcon]

All right, go ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

The New York is on me, right? I just opened up a fresh box of ACGs, nigga. I see. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

I see. I said, look at it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Last few years.

[Big Cat]

Last few years got so ill. Was kind of hard for the God to laugh through tears. Big ice cup. I went through some with Mama. No drama. Something that came and went. Real life karma.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. All right. In the last two years, I found some success in my creative endeavors. Okay. I'm a cartoonist and a YouTube commenter. Commentator. Yeah, I was gonna say why you mentioned. We all comment. We all make comments.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we make comments.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm a YouTube commentator. I mostly do video essays. Jealous of you niggas. Hey, the patience, the time. The time you'll take to edit a video. Something I ain't got in me, you know what I'm saying? Jesus Christ. This is why FD drop once a month.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It take them at least 30 days to edit them videos. But when he do. Crack, crisp crack.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out. FD signifier. Friend of the show, will be on the show 2026. Hey.

I'd mostly do video essays where I talk about the history and racial disparities and need geek space. Mostly top. Mostly topic of conversation pertaining to comics, anime and manga. My YouTube channel has started to pop off.

Why you. You trying to plug, yo?

[Big Cat]

Trying to get some free promotion.

[Deontay Kyle]

Push out a plug.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

How much we charge for ads on this? You think this is a game? What do you think we get money, Ryan? What you think that we saw.

Shout out to Coffee Black. Yeah, yeah. Nah, it's Koba's Lookout. C O V A S Lookout. And the video that performed the Vet. The best are my videos calling out racism in the community.

What community?

At times, I have a problem with this because I feel as If I'm feeding into outrage machines, that is social media and the culture wars. Also, doing research on these topics can be mentally exhausting, especially when I see people in my comments blatantly misrepresenting my talking points. I do the knowledge in other videos as well, calling capitalism such and such, but those videos don't seem to do as well. And that kind of bums me out seeing all this effort go to waste, especially when my main love is and passion is creating comics. Now listen, this is where you up at.

You're not considering the people that do watch.

If you put them people that do watch in a room. That's a room.

[Big Cat]

That's a room.

[Deontay Kyle]

Our first room was what it's like a hunted.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, Jackson.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's like a honey. Yeah, it's a lot of people, man.

[Big Cat]

A lot of eyes on you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't let the YouTube videos get you bummed out, man. It's a lot of people, man.

We used to be happy about a thousand views. What? A thousand what? We hit the four digits through the roof. By the time we hit five digits, you can tell us nothing. Yeah, when we hit six, man. Come on, son. God damn. Firing off. You know what I'm saying? We ain't tripping on a millie. Yeah, I don't need to do a million views on YouTube. Give me, listen, keep me consistent in the 250 to 300 range, I'm a happy man. But when we crack a hundred thousand, I'm up. Yeah, I'm having a great day.

But if I. If I had a dream for this show, I would be 250 to 300, you know what I'm saying? That's a good chunk of the community. Yeah, yeah, there's a community in the headlock right there. I need that. And you talk about a waste.

[Big Cat]

Ain't no waste, brother.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's your. Anybody that watch it validated your time.

You got to be doing it for something other than the view. When you're doing it for the views.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, go work.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta. You know what I'm saying? Listen, bro, you could spend six months making a chair, perfecting the chair. Only one person can sit in it.

That take away the value of the chair because only one person can sit in it at a time.

[Big Cat]

Use a cab. Side we back.

[Deontay Kyle]

I try to keep myself motivated to continue to work. I do see the positive side. I get people reaching out and saying how much they appreciate my work. So then what are we talking about? Long story short, how do I keep it up without getting. Oh, yeah, we just told you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yep.

[Deontay Kyle]

We'll check your IG out. Love the pot. Saw you at Atlanta Comic Con. Wasn't able to go to the panel or the meet and greet. Cause I was tabling there, flipping my comments and getting that chicken.

[Big Cat]

Getting money.

[Deontay Kyle]

As you should.

[Big Cat]

As you should.

[Deontay Kyle]

Send us the manga. You know what I'm saying? Send us the manga. Manga. Manga.

[Big Cat]

I thought you said send us the mega. I said, oh, the maga.

[Deontay Kyle]

But send us that manga or manga. I don't. I'm not an anime.

[Big Cat]

You know what we talk about? Just send it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Send it.

All right, we got one more and then we out of here. Mommy issues plus homelessness. God damn it. What a conundrum. Hey, been there, done that. Hey, been there, Been there with the mommy issues. Been there with the homelessness. Maybe we can help this young man out. Big ice cup.

Oh, this is a young lady.

[Big Cat]

Oh, it's a young lady.

[Deontay Kyle]

What's up, Big ice cup and deontay. My name is Blank. I've been dealing with my mom's antics for a while, but when I turned 18, it got drastically worse. That's when she started asking me to help pay the bills, etc. I was fine with it. But then things started going bad. Like when I first got my car.

And I was saving for it. She knew that, but still wanted me to give her car my car savings, saying she was the landlord, and I had to put her first. Huh?

Huh? I don't know your mama. Okay, I'mma tell you this. I'm going to start this off by saying I don't know your mama.

Your mother's a weird ass. That's weird. She's a weirdo. Yeah.

How the you go from child to tenant?

[Big Cat]

That's crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Your mother. Your mother's weird. But we going to keep it pushing.

Fast forward to now. I got kicked out of the house. We moved to California for her girlfriend.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay. And I got kicked out due to the girlfriend's request.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

[Deontay Kyle]

How big is the strap?

[Big Cat]

The biggest strap I've ever seen.

[Deontay Kyle]

The biggest.

[Big Cat]

Gotta be the biggest strap.

[Deontay Kyle]

The biggest. The largest.

Yo, your mama, bro.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Move to Georgia. You come live with us.

[Big Cat]

Your mom's a weirdo.

[Deontay Kyle]

Your mom's a weirdo. Yeah, I. We're gonna open up a new room. You renovate? We renovate the garage.

[Big Cat]

God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Jesus Christ. I'm lying about that.

[Big Cat]

Don't pack your ass.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm here.

Where's my room? Guys?

Oh. Get this garage together. The door locks from the inside.

[Big Cat]

You just be out there.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just hit that garage. Just hit that button when you gotta go one bedroom studio.

[Big Cat]

No bathroom.

[Deontay Kyle]

No bathroom.

Listen, we ain't gonna charge you no ring. Get how you live. Go piss. You go piss at the pilot.

[Big Cat]

That's a long walk of the piss.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got a car? Oh, okay.

All right. Be cool. This is serious.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I've been in college three times now. But since my mom likes to move and follow her lovers, I've been dragging along. I was in school up here for nursing. Had to drop out due to financial reasons. I'm just trying to survive by any means necessary. And I have a job, but it's only four hours.

And now I'm homeless in California with no family support. Damn. Now I feel bad about joking around.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you guys could help or give me any resources, that would be great to greatly appreciate it. Also have a GoFundMe. If anything will help at this point. All right, we'll attack the Gofund you, especially with me living on car. Hey, look.

I can figure something out. Send me a. Send me a personal email. Send me a separate email. We'll get the GoFundMe. We'll post to GoFundMe. But, like, you got to get away from them people.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And also homeless. California. Like, we'll get you some gas. You got to get somewhere more affordable.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get you out of California. Okay. Send me a personal email. Let's get the gofundme out of. Cast is a gift. $1.

[Big Cat]

Okay, $1.

[Deontay Kyle]

We know at least 50, 000 cousins gonna tap in. Everybody give $1. We can get you the out of California. Go to Phoenix. Go somewhere other than California. Get the out of California. That ain't the place you want to be homeless at. It don't even sound like you're trying to chase, like, Hollywood dreams. Get away from your mother. Okay? Your mother is the problem. It's not you. It's her. We're gonna get you away from her. Second of all, when you get away from her, don't look back.

You know this pattern. First of all, I'm used to hearing, but everybody would do anything for love, bro. And. And it's not even love if she keeps siphoning through and, like, moving state to state.

[Big Cat]

Like, first of all, I think she's homeless.

[Deontay Kyle]

Your mother's homeless.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You just inherited homelessness. That's not your fault. All right, but what is your fault is if you stay there, you don't want to be homeless in California. I'm gonna get the Gofundme. We gotta get you out of California. Yeah. We gotta get you at least a little cushion to get somewhere. And you may be living in your car wherever you go, but at least you go somewhere and find you a job and substitute where the cost of living is equitable. You gotta get you somewhere like Kentucky or Alabama, Tennessee, Tennessee, South Carolina. Yeah, yeah. We gotta get you somewhere that's out of these hot spots.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm saying we gotta get you out of these hot spots. Yeah, you did somewhere you get a job, somebody get on your feet. Somewhere you can go back to school for nursing and somewhere you can come up at. You know what I'm saying? Somewhere where. Well, we can make sure you straight and get the out of California. All right? We gotta get up out of California. We gotta get about it. So send me a personal email. I got your gofundme. I' ma save this tab so we can post it on the show. Matter of fact, I'm before this nursing right now.

[Big Cat]

Please.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't gonna waste no time. We're just gonna go ahead and we're gonna start doing that type of just.

[Big Cat]

Young lady needs some help.

[Deontay Kyle]

For real.

[Big Cat]

For real.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. I ain't know you was homeless. We was out here playing. Yeah.

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Definitely get out of California, though, for sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, we got to get you out of California.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, go bring down to the southeast, baby.

Somewhere around this southeast region, you will flourish.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

We got to get you. Yeah, you got to get the. From around now. Like, that ain't.

[Big Cat]

Did it say she had a. Did she have a kid or just by herself?

[Deontay Kyle]

Huh?

[Big Cat]

It said. It said. Was she homeless with mummy issues or what?

[Deontay Kyle]

What was it? She just got mommy issues.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so she a. Okay, okay, cool. Okay, okay, cool, cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

She ain't got no baby, bro.

[Big Cat]

Cool, cool, cool, cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right. No. No babies. All right, Cool. Thank God. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Wow. Well, way to bum us out.

I'm sorry. We was drinking a little bit. We on stream right now with the cousins.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, damn. I just. You just.

[Big Cat]

The stream up.

He's closed the stream on this.

[Deontay Kyle]

Close the laptop. Damn. Show over. Show over. Stream over. My bad. Yeah, my bad. They closed the whole laptop.

I wasn't expecting. I just said mommy issues. I thought we was really going to help you through. I mean, I know your mama was like that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's a hell of a mama.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

Suck your mother.

All right. We've been drinking a little Bit. So we just gonna end this before start saying we're not empathetic and we're not taking people live seriously. I'm gonna say this, email me personally and I'm dead ass niggas. Got to figure out how to get you out of California. Yeah, you can't be homeless in California. Also maybe, maybe this give you opportunity to laugh a little bit and have some fun. But we gotta get you out of California. That ain't the place if you gonna be homeless anywhere. California and New York, that ain't it.

[Big Cat]

That's not it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not with no car. You got a car, we can get you a para. Yeah, matter of fact whatever wrong with your car. Yeah, we get you a good oil change, some new tires, play some spark plugs. New tires, you gonna hit that road. Good tune up, baby. Listen, I'm gonna tell you when that bread come in, we gonna get that basic maintenance on that car and get the fuck outta California. You don't need to look back. Listen, you can't do nothing from the car.

[Big Cat]

Start looking for jobs now. Go to Indeed right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Go to if you went on Indeed right now.

[Big Cat]

Whatever city you wanna live in, go to Indeed right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Find a job and please get the fuck outta California. Texas, Oklahoma, that's close to you.

Tacoma, Washington, that's close. But I don't want you going to the rainy. You, you in a situation where you can't be homeless. And in the north.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like you can't be in the northwest.

[Big Cat]

Nice, nice.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's very solemn out there. Yeah, you need money to be sad out there. Yeah, you got to get down south.

[Big Cat]

You gotta come to the southeast.

[Deontay Kyle]

We gotta get you in Mississippi, we gotta get you in Louisiana. We gotta get you in Texas somewhere with the sun hitting.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Can't have you up there where it's rainy and dreary. Free and you living in the car. That's not a recipe, that's a recipe for disaster.

[Derek Falcon]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Also. Yeah, just reach out to a Personally on deontayante kyle.com don't send it to Advice. Send it to deontay deontaycolle.com Put in the subject line that you are the cousin that sent this email. So we, we can, you know what I'm saying, work us a little. One, two. Yeah, we gotta get you out of California. Your cousin's gonna help, you know what I'm saying? Because it's gonna help. But.

Yeah.

This is that time, you know, this is a part of the show. But we gotta go, we gotta go we had a great week.

[Big Cat]

Oh, amazing week.

[Deontay Kyle]

We had a great time today. We're gonna help some folks, but because I don't know how to say goodbye, we're gonna let soul do it. You know what I'm saying? It's just hip hop. It's just. You know what I'm saying? It's just. My shit.

Just rats, man. Turn me up, man. It's just rap.

I just want to rap, you know? I just want to rap, man.

Yeah.

[Soul]

They say without the proper labor, faith don't stand a chance I put my faith in faith and stand on first.

[Deontay Kyle]

One of the cousins say you gotta block her number and never look back.

[Soul]

Oh, man, I planted seeds Adeline Deed turning the trees before rest in peace teas get printed to me unless impeded Matter of fact, that got me thinking back when Mr. Love was tending to his garden schooling me to annuity before he grabbed his clubs to go golfing and it's no coincidence that those still had the caddy back when woods were still the best don't let me roll off course here, Georgie Pops was dropping jams while I was lighting six but you know, I too was listening with movies, you see that's the best that I can do Wisdom is the application of knowledge. I was picking up what he was putting down Just wasn't applying it. I ain't denied.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, ain't it? Nah.

[Soul]

Maybe I was too busy trying to find the balance between religion and science Trying to get to the bottom of everything while being the highest Like a pilot's roots. Am I right, brother? Cause I was simultaneously relaying it through reason and rhyming that I sought for us dissecting systems responsible for our imprisonment, the vigilant and every with astigmatism and scarred cornea. Yes, if love is blind then what am I? You can't fight fate that's why.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm so glad so.