Grits and Eggs Podcast – Episode 116: "Abolish ICE"

Host: Deante’ Kyle
Date: January 27, 2026

Episode Overview

Episode 116 of "Grits and Eggs" finds host Deante’ Kyle in a raw, unfiltered mood as he addresses the urgent need to abolish ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement). The show dives deep into recent events, including national news of police and ICE brutality, pop culture, current events, intra-Black community issues, and listener call-ins revealing everything from questions about language and culture to relationship drama. The episode’s tone is direct, at times satirical, and always rooted in strong Black cultural commentary.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Show Updates and Tour Announcements (04:24–14:50)

• New Music Monday is up and running every week with interviews and freestyle sessions from underground and unsigned artists. Deante’ emphasizes the authenticity and culture-forward approach, aiming to revive the tradition of lyrical skill ("We want bars. Bars. We're bringing bars back." [10:58]).
• First Cousins SE Tour is announced with cities and dates listed; Patreon subscribers get early access to tickets and merch.
• Podcast community building — regular listeners ("cousins") are encouraged to join Patreon for exclusive content, early ticket access, and virtual Q&A sessions.

2. Pop Culture & Black Niche News (15:05–22:50)

• Tariq Nasheed criticism — Deante’ humorously yet sharply scrutinizes the FBA leader's trip to Senegal with donated funds:
  "Oh. Now, brother, what you doing out there? Eating jollof rice... You're supposed to be down here eating red beans and rice.” [15:38]
• Black Lion Party saga — Deante’ is skeptical of Paul Birdsong and the sudden resurgence of Black Panther-esque groups, noting the historical infiltration of Black organizations by COINTELPRO and warning listeners to be wary of opportunists and potential feds. "If they pop up out of nowhere, I don't think it's a reach to believe this is the US government." [21:01]

3. The Case for Abolishing ICE (22:51–54:16)

• ICE Violence & Cover-ups:
  • Discussion of the killing of Alex Preddy, a legal gun owner and ICU nurse, by ICE in Minneapolis while he was trying to protect a woman from ICE agents. The host details the event, emphasizing it was captured on multiple videos and was preceded by Preddy lawfully exercising his First and Second Amendment rights ([24:10]). "Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are murdering American citizens." [24:55]
  • Names of other recent ICE victims are listed, including killings of Black, white, and immigrant individuals.
• ICE’s Pattern of Abuse:
  • Not just murder, but sexual abuse and separating migrant families, often using children as bait for parents.
  • ICE agents' identities are increasingly obscured (ICE being replaced by “POLICE” on vests)—a psychological tactic to shield accountability.
• Bipartisan Complicity:
  • Both parties, including Democrats, continue to fund ICE, with only a few politicians (notably Zoran Mamdani) openly calling for abolition.
• Suppression and Censorship:
  • News from Minneapolis being suppressed—citing TikTok’s new censorship and lack of NRA or gun rights group responses.
  • Deante’ links the expansion and funding of ICE to corporate lobbying, price gouging, and media manipulation:
    "Mega corporations... control our politicians with lobbying, control our media for their narrative... Then they price gouge for their profit..." [32:01]

4. Historical and Racial Context (39:20–55:32)

• Comparisons to Nazi Germany:
  • Draws direct connections between America’s history and the tactics of ICE—slavery, family separation, and state violence—stating “Hitler learned everything about how to conduct himself... from America” ([45:21]).
  • Criticizes the hypocrisy of those newly shocked by ICE’s violence, noting Black Americans have lived with such state violence for centuries.
• Black Americans and the Front Lines:
  • Pushes back against criticism of Black communities for not "showing up" for recent victims, arguing for self-preservation and citing a long, unreciprocated history of Black activism: "This is their reckoning. This is our regular—let these people have a reckoning. If you step in the way of their karma, then their behavior... will persist." [61:07]
  • Stresses different forms of activism — not everyone needs to be on the front lines; organizing, educating, and self-care also matter.

5. Call-ins & Listener Questions (69:48–90:42)

Language, Slang, and Black Creativity [69:48]

• Purple Hairs calls in to praise the creativity behind Black slang, highlighting its depth and improvisational genius. "We have made a million different variations off of a handful of items. And we do this while just playing... it's magic and it's moving." (Caller, [70:43])
• Deante’s response:
  "This rigid idea of language, this rigid idea of education, the rigidness of the Europeans is only to keep people out. Because if you don't check, check, check these boxes, then I know you're not one of me. You're not one of us. It's a way to keep people out." [72:04]

Is the United Negro College Fund a Scam? [73:51]

• Caller questions if anyone actually receives scholarships from UNCF; hosts riff on this, joke about never meeting a recipient, but ultimately research to confirm legitimacy, defend the organization’s history, and poke fun at conspiratorial thinking.

Invites & Event Announcements [81:41]

• Nicole from ATL invites the hosts and audience to "Creative Roots ATL," a free networking event for Black creatives, artists, and business owners.

Relationship Advice Segments [82:59–90:38]

• A listener asks for advice about a man who started strong and then ghosted — Deante’ and his co-host provide blunt, comedic tough love, warning against loving too quick:
  "Stop texting him. And you literally... in like three or four days will go by, he'll be like, damn, I ain't heard from shorty ass." [88:01]
• Another email from a Black cop in Boston engaged to a white woman whose family disapproves — Deante’ and his co-host go in with harsh but humorous advice, referencing cultural and familial disapproval:
  "Put the badge down. Put the white bitch down and get back to what you know, son." [96:49]
• A listener from West Virginia, also in an interracial relationship, expresses regret — hosts reference "Get Out" and caution against whitewashing lineage, again using biting humor to urge self-reflection and family reconnection.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On ICE and government violence:
  "This is as American as it gets. Separating families, that's very American. Killing unarmed citizens, that's very American. It's just very Black American." [45:12]

• On Black activism and self-preservation:
  "We will still organize. We will still amplify. We will still do the work that we've always been doing. But we will not put our bodies on the line for this country and its people anymore. You are about 407 years too late to understanding." [59:43]

• On policing and class warfare:
  "All ICE agents and police nationwide are class traitors. There aren't any young Patriots to coalesce with. They're all Proud Boys, Groipers or a part of neo-Nazi white supremacist hate groups." [62:19]

• On activism methods:
  "There's a lot of arms to this fight. And one way ain't the only way." [62:51]

• To Black men in interracial relationships:
  "You played in the snow so long that you got caught up in an avalanche. Now you can't breathe, son. Now you can't see. We can't even see you. You just a little dot. Little black speck out there just covered in snow." [100:39]

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Show Announcements, Tour, Community Building: 04:24–14:50
• Niche Black News (Tariq Nasheed, Black Lion Party): 15:05–22:50
• ICE Analysis & Calls for Abolition: 22:51–54:16
• Historical/Racial Context & Hypocrisy: 39:20–55:32
• Activism, Solidarity, and Black Self-Preservation: 54:17–69:47
• Listener Call-ins and Advice Segments: 69:48–108:10

Tone & Language

The episode is a razor-sharp blend of conscious Black political thought, dark humor, cultural pride, and no-holds-barred advice. Deante’ and his co-host engage listeners directly (“cousins”), oscillating between witty banter, tough love, and historical reflection, always centering the lived Black experience with unapologetic honesty.

For New Listeners

Episode 116 is a powerful primer on the Grits and Eggs approach: cultural insight, political critique, and, above all, community accountability. Whether you’re here for social commentary, Black cultural pride, or just bracing advice, Deante’ Kyle’s "Abolish ICE" episode serves up a potent slice of contemporary Black thought—and makes it clear: Stay Black, and stay out the snow.