Episode 117 - Big Bank Black

Summary

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Grits and Eggs Podcast – Episode 117: Big Bank Black

Release Date: January 30, 2026
Host: Deante’ Kyle
Guest: Big Bank Black

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Episode Overview

This episode of Grits and Eggs sees Deante’ Kyle (a.k.a. Big Facts) sit down for an in-depth conversation with Atlanta legend Big Bank Black. Together, they explore the trajectory of Atlanta street culture, the evolution of the city before and after the Olympics, the real-life foundation behind the Duct Tape Entertainment legacy, personal growth, and the changing dynamics of authenticity in the music and media industries. The discussion moves effortlessly from stories of old Atlanta to present-day reflections, with both men sharing honest takes on manhood, fatherhood, transformation, and why it’s essential just to “try it out.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Atlanta: Then and Now

Timestamps: 06:18 – 09:00

• Pre-Olympics Atlanta:

  • Both guests reminisce about the cultural shift post-1996 Olympics. Before the games, "It was Atlanta. You had to really be somebody to be recognized in the city." (Bank, 06:41)
  • After the Olympics, the city became more accessible, attracting outsiders and diluting its unique culture.

• Authenticity & "Clout":

  • Social media allows people to curate personalities. "Right now you can make your Instagram be whoever you wanna be for sure." (Bank, 08:40)
  • Contrast between being known for real and being known online.

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2. Podcast & Media Game: Hustle, Transition, and Monetization

Timestamps: 02:02 – 05:12; 29:51 – 32:44

• Origins & Outsourcing:

  • Early episodes were friends or fans, but as things grew, they had to find new spaces and systems.
  • The importance of owning both audio and video in media for monetization. "That's why I keep my shit separate. I do the audio with them and I work that video myself. You can get your money off your own video." (Bank, 04:32)

• Entry Barriers:

  • Starting a podcast is the new "saying you’re a rapper"—seen as easy but requires hustle.

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3. The Birth and Philosophy of Duct Tape Entertainment

Timestamps: 05:31 – 18:10

• Real Roots:

  • "Duct Tape ain’t nothing but another name for Edgewood." (Bank, 16:36)
  • Formation inspired by witnessing the street-to-rap pipeline and wanting to own their own movement.

• No Paperwork, All Loyalty:

  • Early Duct Tape operated on "sworn secrecy to loyalty," not contracts. "Our paperwork was the DT's on our face." (Bank, 22:00)
  • Keeping ego in check: “I can't just say I started. We did that shit together.” (Bank, 21:50)

• Transition from Streets:

  • Bank describes the real challenge of leaving street life and how partial involvement is a myth: "You really can't halfway do neither one." (Bank, 35:38)

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4. Street Life, Reputation, and Consequences

Timestamps: 34:33 – 46:22

• Energy & Reputation:

  • Your reputation follows you, and the energy you put out manifests:
    • "My mama used to say, when they kick that door in, as far as they concerned, you sell drugs." (Big Facts, 36:02)
    • "The energy you put out is what you get back." (Bank, 46:10)

• On the Dangers and Myths of the Streets:

  • Caution against idolizing or glamorizing street life, especially when entertainers rarely show the long-term consequences.
  • “The industry is not the streets ... you gonna run into a paperwork gangster.” (Bank, 40:53)

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5. Role Models, Influences, and Authenticity in Music

Timestamps: 41:03 – 43:49

• Rappers as Leaders?

  • Dialogue around why entertainers aren’t always the right people to emulate.
  • “They’re not leaders. Some of them can lead, but they’re rappers.” (Bank, 41:47)

• Manifestation through Music:

  • The power of words and performing the same story over and over:
    • “If your biggest song could be 'shooter,' eventually you gonna have to shoot a [n*gga] on me.” (Bank, 43:49)

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6. Evolution, Self-Growth, and the Power of Trying

Timestamps: 47:18 – 59:06, 62:41 – 74:13

• Personal Reinvention:

  • Bank discusses his various life phases, from “Try it Out” Bank, to Duct Tape CEO, to Vegan and Podcaster.
  • “I never wore none of this shit...this is me now. I can see this in my future.” (Bank, 48:03)

• Being the Example:

  • "We got these mics in front of us ... I do this just to show gratitude through actions—show that you can do it." (Bank, 72:21)

• Being Chosen & Willpower:

  • Bank attributes his transitions and opportunities to will and God’s guidance:
    • “Once I get the blessing, then I plan on how to keep it.” (Bank, 69:54)
    • “Once he choose you, you chose.” (Bank, 97:02)

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7. Parenthood, Legacy, and Generational Influence

Timestamps: 89:10 – 92:44

• Fatherhood & Grandparenthood:
  • “Me and my kids like brothers and sisters.” (Bank, 89:28)
  • Banks reflects on mistakes made raising his children young and the opportunity for new softness with his grandkids.
  • The importance of staying present in kids’ lives despite relationship strains with the mother.

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8. Health Journey and Discipline

Timestamps: 63:00 – 67:56

• Transformation Narrative:
  • Facing pre-diabetes and poor health, he shifted to walking, veganism, and eventually aiming for alkaline eating.
  • “I went from 315 to 202. That’s a whole person gone.” (Bank, 66:28)
  • Real talk about man’s health and, humorously, how "waking up with your dick hard" signals you’re healthy.
    • (Bank, 67:38)

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9. On Growth, Ego, and Perspective

Timestamps: 73:45 – 76:36

• Staying Out of the Ego Trap:
  • "For me personally, how I get through it... That’s why I named the shit Perspective. Because I ain’t finna go back and forth with you about my opinion." (Bank, 73:45)
  • Valuing everyone’s backstory and respecting their journey, even if it’s not your own.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Right now you can make your Instagram be whoever you wanna be for sure." (Bank, 08:40)
• "If you gonna say that shit, stand up, that shit gonna come home." (Big Facts, 10:03)
• "You really can’t halfway do neither one. You can’t halfway do this, and you can’t halfway do the streets." (Bank, 35:38)
• "The tongue is so powerful, bro. You could just be rapping something that you don’t feel, but the song’s so hard... eventually you’re gonna have to shoot a [n*gga] on me." (Bank, 43:49)
• "Law of nature: How you gonna want something else, and you don’t even appreciate what you got?" (Bank, 72:17)
• “Once you get a hit, it just lets you know, like, it’s all it take.” (Bank, 54:43)
• "For me, I ain't tripping on being an example because, like, I'm an example for myself. ... You ain't gotta believe what I'm saying. You can see it." (Big Facts, 74:34)
• "Once he choose you, you chose. And you just can’t go against every avenue. It’s gonna be a road paved for you already." (Bank, 97:02)

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• Atlanta’s transformation: 06:18 – 09:00
• Authenticity in the age of social media: 08:40 – 09:13
• Duct Tape’s formation and mission: 16:36 – 22:00
• Leaving the streets and community responsibility: 34:33 – 36:34
• Energy, music, and manifestation: 43:49 – 44:11
• Real-life lessons from a sudden hit ("Try It Out"): 48:47 – 54:43
• Health journey and veganism: 63:00 – 67:56
• Growth, perspective, and manhood: 72:17 – 74:13
• On fatherhood and legacy: 89:10 – 92:44

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Closing

The episode closes with Bank previewing new projects, speaking on “Hiking with Bank,” “Perspective,” and the Big Facts Network. He highlights his ongoing commitment to growth, gratitude, and keeping it real for Atlanta—and himself.

Deante’ Kyle wraps it up with:
"The song is Try it Out. And everything you did – you just tried it out." (Big Facts, 96:33)

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This episode is a must-listen for fans of real Atlanta, street-to-entrepreneur stories, and unfiltered wisdom on life, legacy, and growth.

Transcript

[Bank]

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[Big Facts]

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[Bank]

Yeah Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty south with a dirty mouth Might need orbit Miss things things on me like a nigga Norbit had to refuse them Cause my bitch no rest Fusion, she gorgeous As I dab my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead Tell them gonna get this money to my pocket Morbid. Remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage.

[Big Facts]

You don't know what folk, what they got on them, right?

[Bank]

Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to leave that in your house. Especially not your family, though.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. And then I think for me, like, the first few guests was people that was just like, fans of the show. Yeah. So even if they had a name attached to them, they was really tapped in where it was like, all right, they got good. They got good vibes. I'm cool when I'm coming over here until I find a spot. But once it started getting to the point where people was reaching out to me all the time. I wanna be on the show. I wanna come do this, I wanna come do that. It started getting to a point where I was like, in hell, now we gotta outsource it. And Fer was the first person to reach out, like to offer me a space for real. And then it would just start like we was doing what, Ferd? Maybe like a guest a month, something like that. So now we be in this bitch every.

[Bank]

Yeah, nah, this spot dope.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, we here.

[Bank]

You know that whole spot though, you know, in my neighborhood. Right down, right across the track. Go call the train track. You in my hood.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

Mason Avenue. I'm over here.

[Big Facts]

I'm like two lights away. I'm in Pull many yard.

[Bank]

Oh, yeah, Pull meard. Yeah, that's right in Kirkwood, off Roger Street.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. I think for me it was just like we. I ain't never wanna outsource my cause. I don't come from like no media background. I don't come from no entertainment background. So I already know, like off the muscle, you gonna whack me. Because you don't. You. I don't have no resume, you know what I'm saying? So ain't nobody gonna really show no love like that. And if anything, like you. You saying you got a podcast, like, saying you're a rapper now. Facts, you know what I'm saying?

[Bank]

Worse.

[Big Facts]

It's worse. Cause now you. Cause like you could be fire music and not really be a conversationalist or really not have nothing to say for real. But you good with the music. This is like predicated on what you got to say.

[Bank]

So did you. Did you do something with Charlemagne, though? He don't hit me about this. Oh, so you end up doing it?

[Big Facts]

Yeah, we did the Breakfast Club.

[Bank]

No, I'm somebody like the Black and Fish.

[Big Facts]

No, we. We in negotiation. It's, you know, back and forth. The. From the start of the negotiation to now. It's totally different world.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

You know what I'm saying?

[Bank]

Oh, you saying like from when you first started. Yeah. Now them folks ain't got no money over there though, but might well take whatever they talking about. Cause ain't no money in audio, period. Right. Unless you already got your numbers up in audio.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, I think. And that is audio only.

[Bank]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Facts]

And a lot of. A lot of the ads, they want to do, the simulcast, they want audio individual. So it's real hard to pitch just an audio only type. I don't know what they got going on though, because I ain't in nobody's system.

[Bank]

Who you talking about? Black Effect.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, just anything audio based. They got their own subset of like all that, you know, deals mostly just advert there.

[Bank]

Yeah, that's why I keep my shit separate. I do the audio with them and I work that video myself. You can get your money off your own video.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, yeah. We were. We running with both of them right now. So it's just like audio and video.

[Bank]

Where you put your shit everywhere. Go everywhere though, right?

[Big Facts]

Yeah, yeah. So I'm with megaphone. Okay. And so like, I. I do my audio Tuesday and the visuals Wednesday.

[Bank]

Yeah, me too. I do Monday then too.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, yeah. So is that with big fast or just perspective?

[Bank]

Perspective. Big fast. I think we come out Wednesday and Thursday. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Wednesday, audio, then tv, then Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

[Big Facts]

How you. How you make the transition into. So I know I first heard your name try it out for sure. But then I'm also like, always been tapped in with duct tape. Cause like, I beat Alleyboy fan when he first came out. Trouble fan, all that. So then your name always floating around. But you actually, what, CEO of duct tape?

[Bank]

That's my shit.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. So how did you. We are family. Yeah. We good?

[Bank]

Oh, damn.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. Yeah. You know, the icebreaker, just to sit down. That's it. Everything else we just started wrong.

[Bank]

Yeah. It is that hard, though.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, yeah. Just roll you right into it.

[Bank]

You got right into it. I'm like this sound like interview question. You see what I'm saying?

[Big Facts]

You see what I'm saying?

[Bank]

You know, that's hard.

[Big Facts]

We do. But everybody know, like, what the background is. Of course, growing up in Atlanta, you didn't seen this change three, four times over. But me, yeah. Well, before. But so before we get to the duct tape, talk about like what life was like pre Atlanta with the real Atlanta, what they'll call it towards what it is now.

[Bank]

So you're saying before the Olympics.

[Big Facts]

Basically, that's what. So this big cat, whole thing too. Because his mom from. Where your mama from?

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

So he. He like, bro, it was really the Olympics. That's what I'm trying to tell you is the Olympics.

[Bank]

Yeah. Cause people. I don't think people. It was. It was more. It was just before the Olympics. It was Atlanta. You know what I'm saying? After the Olympics, it just turned into atl.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

You know what I'm saying? It was Atlanta at first. Then after Limited turned to atl because a lot of people came here and saw this city and seen that it was like, you know, like black Hollywood or whatever. So like I can move down there. And we so welcoming, so soft hearted, free hearted. We let everybody in.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. And shit.

[Bank]

You know, I think once the Internet hit and seeing other people, we started adapting to other people culture and we lost the culture of Atlanta.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

That's what I think. But before, before the Olympics, it was shit hustling and wasn't no tricking. All that tricking shit came later when niggas talking about they just spend money on bitches and all that. We wasn't doing that.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

You know what I'm saying? It was like sh. You couldn't. You had to really be somebody to be known to be somebody back in them day. You had to really be somebody. Like it'd be thoroughly checked.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

Like, who is this Dante? Who. Who is people? Like your people got to be somebody for you to be somebody. Like, you get what I'm saying? Like you got to run in.

[Big Facts]

You.

[Bank]

You can't just pop up out the.

[Big Facts]

Blue light pulling them car fetch for sure.

[Bank]

Yeah, yeah. You just a UFO now. You that nigga. Nah, bro. Where you were that nigga at before? You were that nigga right here, you know?

[Big Facts]

Yeah. Then why, like. Cause my mama, she from Dale.

[Bank]

Okay.

[Big Facts]

So like all my folks, they kind of done scattered. So like a lot of my folks in Riverdale now. A lot of my people, like my Uncle Peach and they stay all county or whatever. But when I was growing up, it's just like how immersed they was in the city and how many people everybody knew. It's like, I got so many places I can go and just be cool, even as a little kid. So it's like, I got friends from everywhere.

[Bank]

Cause they such nephew.

[Big Facts]

Exactly. And if you go outside, you good as long as you willing to be outside.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

You know what I'm saying? You can't. Cause if you gonna run back to the house every 15 minutes cause somebody fucking with you, then shit, you might as well gonna stay in the house.

[Bank]

Facts. But you get grace due to your.

[Big Facts]

People, to your foes.

[Bank]

And if you add up to what your people name is. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, it's crazy, man. But right now you can make your Instagram be whoever you wanna be for sure.

[Big Facts]

And all you gotta do is have that emotion right now.

[Bank]

Yep.

[Big Facts]

And then folks is like, shit, well, he got. Bro, he big on the Internet. He got 130,000 followers. He got a million followers. It's like, okay, but who the fuck is this nigga?

[Bank]

It don't even matter who you, whoever you Say is to the follow.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. Especially now with the content. It's more so it ain't really about what you didn't did outside. For real. It's like, what do you do in front of the camera?

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

How do you. If you gardner and enough people attention, it's like clout. For real.

[Bank]

Yeah. How brave are you in front of the camera?

[Big Facts]

For sure.

[Bank]

Like if you not if you don't give a about saying whatever you want to say and you that.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, for sure.

[Bank]

That's how the Internet go. Like, if you brave enough to say A on the camera, she's your gangster.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

See, no matter what you'll do in real life. But if you brave enough to say it.

[Big Facts]

You know what that is though? It's like I was just talking about that. When it comes to like all these different streamers and shit, like. Or just like people in entertainment, period, they get to talking hot for real. And then it's like. But everywhere you go, you be with security. So it's like you talking hot as fuck though. Like. And you really got police with you and you know how nigga feel about the police. Whereas like with me, we know like, I grew up in Douglasville.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

But I always take the mentality of like what my folks raised me on. Like, if you gonna say that shit, stand up, that shit gonna come home. So like don't be saying one thing. Then the N approach you like, you said this and then now you. Oh, no, it wasn't like that. No, you gotta really be on it. So it's like we don't roll around no security or nothing like that. But everywhere we go, we'd be feeling welcome because we really with the people and we ain't. We ain't like putting nobody down or we ain't got them trying to flex on a or nothing like that. So it ain't coming with that type of energy no way. Yeah, but I think a lot of times too move around like that where they could be comfortable, but they can't because they ain't really, really just stand on the. They be saying online.

[Bank]

Exactly.

[Big Facts]

They be doing for clicks. But like, some take that seriously.

[Bank]

Like, nah, you know the new. The new bro, that shit, the Internet, bro. You know, I was just talking shit. This shit, the Internet. That's the new way out of it. You see a. See you all through it. Like, bro, I know you ain't taking that serious, but try to make you.

[Big Facts]

Feel l for taking serious.

[Bank]

I know you a take that serious, bro. You just said my mama that about.

[Big Facts]

As serious as a kid.

[Bank]

What are you talking about? So I don't right now, bro. Me personally, I don't take the Internet literal.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, I don't.

[Bank]

I did. I have before, but I don't take that literal, bro, because it is what it is. It's like you left. You lack self control. If you can let somebody say something about you on the Internet and it really touches you. Yeah, I fell victim to it before, but I ain't doing that shit ever again.

[Big Facts]

How like, how so though?

[Bank]

I'm saying, like it's something you want.

[Big Facts]

To talk about or not.

[Bank]

No, I'm just saying it's like going back and forth on the Internet.

[Big Facts]

Oh, yeah. Oh, like really getting into it with.

[Bank]

A. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Like any of that shit. Or taking it serious. Just taking the Internet literal. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Facts]

I'm gonna tell you what it is though. It's that shit that we grow up on where like, if you embarrass me, I gotta go north with you. Cause like, you can't embarrass. You're not finna play with my name, like. Yeah, whereas like on the Internet, if somebody embarrass you and you'll go back and forth with them on there, now you entertainment for facts. So they don't even take you seriously. For real. Cause it's like, bro, this. This WWE for real for most people. Whereas, like, I get what people saying where it's like not real life, but like it really depend on how you talking talk.

[Bank]

But talk is talk, though.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. I'm saying if I see you in real life now, if you see, if.

[Bank]

I see you in real life, I don't give a. What you said. I'm asking you about it.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, we gotta. You know what I'm saying? We gotta address it.

[Bank]

We gotta address that no matter what.

[Big Facts]

And I tell this all the time. Like, bro, I don't ran into so many that that'll make videos about me and everything. Like, they'll try to come up off a name. I don't know why they doing that. Because I ain't. I ain't come up like that.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

So then you see, it'd be all love. Want to give you a hug. I'm like, hold on. Before we. Why you said why you said that? And they'd be like, bro, making content, bro. It'd be love. Like, oh, okay. But that ain't the type of love I show.

[Bank]

That shit is confusing.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

So you say, what be that shit's scary. Because you don't know how to. Like, what if I'm a person that activates soon as I see you without even asking you. You're a content creator. You don't got. You got your bust on some. About some content. Yeah, but that's what I said.

[Big Facts]

There's some that don't. Ain't gonna do no talking.

[Bank]

Exactly. That's why me personally, I just don't take it literal because I'm. I'm gonna see you thinking it's something else and then I'm gonna be tripping.

[Big Facts]

You gonna look crazy. For real. Because if they are some like, bro, then you look like. Like you aggressive.

[Bank]

Yeah. Bully.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, I. You know, that's another thing too, that Internet start to turn into like school a little bit where it's like, you know, in school, if you go to. With somebody. With somebody all the time and ain't nobody saying nothing about you with them, the moment they retaliate, everybody like, what. What dude tripping for. Yep. And dude, like, I've been with me for six months straight. I ain't saying. I don't. I don't be looking for no trouble. The moment I retaliate now, I'm the bad guy, man.

[Bank]

That's why you gotta just leave that come here for like, what you doing, man? Come on. The Put. Put. You put your content out, get your paper and go back to the crib.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, okay.

[Bank]

You take this literal, man. Bro, I can go on the Internet right now and search my name so they're not saying some. Yeah, but girl, we're gonna see. We're gonna see the. I'm gonna skip past all that. Good. The saying and get to the. And let it affect me. That's. That's human nature. Yeah.

[Big Facts]

You know what I'm saying? Go past 100 comments supposedly, like, bro, this the real thing on the Internet. Be like, man, y' all listening to this? Like, what you mean? It's like listening to me, like, You know what I'm saying?

[Bank]

That cold.

[Big Facts]

That's that human nature shit, though.

[Bank]

Human nature, man. We just don't want to feel tried.

[Big Facts]

That's it. And you know, that's a big. That's a big thing. When I was growing up, the only excuse a needed to get at the library that tried me. Bro, you don't even need to know what capacity it's in. If you told me tried you. You good. It's a valid reason.

[Bank]

But we gotta. We gotta make. We gotta figure out what's actually trying. You make anything try. Like, would Just. I know that seen me. He ain't say what's up. He tried me. How? I probably didn't see you.

[Big Facts]

You saw me.

[Bank]

Why you say what's up?

[Big Facts]

Why you ain't say nothing?

[Bank]

Yeah. This crazy.

[Big Facts]

It'd be a lot of where it's like all ego. You know what I'm saying?

[Bank]

Everything.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

Any too. It'd be these women too. These falling out by these women.

[Big Facts]

It's an unfortunate part of the game. It's very persistent, though. It's. It's as much as like. That'd be my thing with too. It's just like as much as y' all are downtown women and like, y' all act like y' all don't give a. About women. You'll crash about one though.

[Bank]

What and don't kill and.

[Big Facts]

And. And you'll feel justified and then go right back to talking like a. Like, bro, you just crashed behind you in jail now. Cause one and. And it ain't had nothing to do with her. It has something to do with you.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

Tripping. You know what I'm saying?

[Bank]

And she's still out here doing the same.

[Big Facts]

Worser, worse earth. She got a burden. She got a weight off her shoulder. I'm good now. I'm brand new with the duck type thing to like, how did you. Was that. Was that your way of kind of transitioning out of the. It's like I'm gonna go legit as far as, like, creating a company but also giving people opportunity to speak that piece in the street from a. From a perspective that might not be good for your traditional record label because the n. A like Ollie Boy nigga, like Trouble. They. They wasn't necessarily going for, like, the whole industry shit, but they still needed an outlet because they saying some of the realest shit that I. I know for me at that time, I could relate to.

[Bank]

That was my neighborhood. That's just what it was. It's just duct tape. Ain't nothing but another name for Edgewood, you know what I'm saying? Right down there, you can spit on. Spit to my block from right here, right? You go to the end of the car, you can spit to Edgewood right there where we started it at. And what actually happened was Ali always been like, a rapper. He always knew how to rap. I ain't gonna say he been a rapper. He always knew how to rap since he was a kid. Like, he just was a talented nigga. You know what I'm saying? And just keeping it a brick. Record labels were starring like, I Remember we used to go to a club called Libre on Moreland. And N was having groups. I remember Gucci. Them had so icy. Then you had GS in them. They weren't at the leave, but you had GS in them. You had tip them. So that was the new swag. Like, from dope boy to rapper. So it's like we looking at these niggas like, y' all not taking that from them. Y' all rapping, but we actually doing this shit. Which y' all saying y' all rap. So we finna got down, start us a record label. Duct tape shit, Alec and rap. Me and Sosa got down Village Sosa. We wasn't no rappers, but we was homeboys real tight. So we was like, bro, let's just start us a label. Just look. So we got. Got the duct tape label. Started wearing the shirts and shit, going out. And Al was locked up at the time. He get out of jail. I told him. And the crazy part about it, when he got locked up for me and him got caught in some shit together. And he took the charges or whatever. And when he got out, we already had duct tape just came out. Shit, let's go. Let's go. Shit, he the one to me, he the goat. Anyway, all the time like, bruh, I.

[Big Facts]

Ain'T gonna hold you. I was actively selling mid actively. I selling something. Like, me.

[Bank]

We would too.

[Big Facts]

I'm getting. But I said this one, I had started getting down with, like, taking too. Because I was like, damn, this easier for. But I'm in Douglasville, too. So I'm like, this loaded. No consequences. Like, ain't nobody finna do this.

[Bank]

Sweet.

[Big Facts]

It's sweet. So I'm just like, like. Like. I remember one time, my homeboy was like, bro, I know this little On Fairban. And I think he talking about Fairb Road in Douglasville. He was like, n Fairban ain't the city on the west side. I said, but I know.

[Bank]

Yeah. And then he f. Try to get that smoke.

[Big Facts]

I said. I said, but look, they not gonna let that go. Yeah, these niggas out here gonna let this go.

[Bank]

Yeah, these ain't.

[Big Facts]

They gonna come to our fair road. I was like, I'm trying to do with low to no consequences. But either way, I hear 50 bars of poison in that mix that had me activated.

[Bank]

The bro, he was going crazy.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. You remember when trouble had dropped there. They all busted for trouble. And them had brother was in the video. It was so many guns every day. I was like, how is this Shot that right there. I said, how this on the Internet, bro, that crazy. You could do anything on World Star back then, too. You go crazy on World Star?

[Bank]

Nah, that was crazy. Them gun was legit, though. Everybody had a gun. Had legit. I don't know if I was some dirty ones in there, but F4 alligator out or whatever. And we started label. The whole hood got behind the label. You know what I'm saying? Everybody, like, not one person. I can't think of. The women, the kids. Everybody got behind the label and got the DTS in our face. Element the song about it, fast forward at that time, we had Sosa, me, Ali, other guy named Kid. And then once Alice started making tractions and stuff started going crazy. He Trouble. He from Edgewood too, but he was younger. He's way younger than us. School, like. Like he was a baby. But he came around about 17, 18. Al brought him around. Like, man, I with this at trouble end up being hard just like Ellie, you know what I'm saying? So shit that way. Then I got a couple partners. Partner from the west side. He came in. Ricardo. It's Dot from down the street. You know what I'm saying? Three people just formed the label. Yeah, we took over the city. Our whole mission was we ain't nothing like these. You know what I'm saying? We different. We ain't like these rap.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, y' all was on a mission to like, y' all was trying to get to check in with y' all.

[Bank]

On some like that would cap. Listen, bro. Listen, back then, bro, I. I think we was trolling before. Trolling was out. Like, not to say we weren't with the shits.

[Big Facts]

Right.

[Bank]

You know what I'm saying? But a. Turn the camera on, say anything. Don't even care. Let's see how they gonna take it.

[Big Facts]

We don't give a right?

[Bank]

Like, it was just a bunch of trolling. Like, anybody come down here, hang up, hang up. Turn them camera off. Just laugh about that. Like, they think it be bad to hear about that. You know what I'm saying? We just trolling, man. Even though a a said they could still stand on it.

[Big Facts]

But I stand on it if you made me.

[Bank]

But it wasn't just Internet.

[Big Facts]

How did you. How was you able to, like, kind of separate your ego from the. Though, like, you know, a lot of times when start shit up and they start getting some motion, they want to be the person that is more so like, visible or like, I started this shit, you know, that. That shit. It seems I ain't gonna say it always happened. But in y' all situation, I see it never really happened. You would never really start and be in the forefront.

[Bank]

I'm glad you said that. That's some real shit, too. But I'm gonna tell you why I never did that. Because I can't just say I started. It was just my idea. We did that shit together.

[Big Facts]

Right.

[Bank]

Like, I wouldn't even spark the idea if I didn't know Allen was a hell of a rapper, you know what I'm saying? And I wouldn't even spark the idea if. If I just didn't want to compete with the rappers, you know what I'm saying? We got money, too. Fuck y'. All. We got money. What's happening? Street money. Y' all know what's happening. And so it was a collective effort. And then our whole thing was like. Like, I'm gonna keep it a brick. Like, we. We didn't even believe in paperwork. It was our paperwork, the DT's on our face. You know what I'm saying? Only what we do paperwork is. Cause the big label started getting involved now. Alexander Atlantic. So we gotta have our shit together. My shit went to Def Jam, so now I gotta do paperwork. Other than that, it was just, you know, sworn secrecy to loyalty. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

So I can't just say. And I was still in the street, dibbling, dabbling. So I ain't wanna be on camera saying, I'm no CEO. I'm this, I'm that.

[Big Facts]

Cause we had already seen the BMF shit. Yeah. And go.

[Bank]

Them was saying in the music, though, like, Allen troubling them. Like, you know what I'm saying? Bank God for all that. Like, I ain't, you know, never adopt that Persona.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. How. How do you. How do you stay away from it, though? Because even still now, that's what people say. I would say it's. It's a little bit more legitimacy to it now from the perspective that people that normally wouldn't speak of their life outside of what the public know. Right. Like, if you know me as an entertainer, when I'm in public, I'm gonna speak about entertainment, but I'm not gonna really talk about the world that I'm really from. Because I might not be comfortable speaking about that with you or across from somebody that will understand. But it seemed like when people got something to say and they got something to do with Atlanta and they got something to do with the street, for real, they'll come sit down with you before they Go anywhere else.

[Bank]

I don't know. I don't know. Shit. I'm glad they need to keep coming.

[Big Facts]

But that's what I'm. But I think that's where the Godfather part of it. Like, it just like you. You will make people comfortable in a space where they normally might be uncomfortable. Like, even though, like, Woody.

[Bank]

Yeah. I ain't gonna judge him. I ain't just like, when I interviewed Woody, that was like, I really like the interview. Like, I went back and watched it. I rarely watched my interviews. I went back and watched it just to dissect him and his mindset and all that shit. Because I really like the interview. Yeah, I can't say if you lying or whatever he doing or who he talking about. I ain't saying what I like what he talking about. I just liked it. The. The energy of the interview. I like all my interviews, though, to be real. But I just like, I would have been reluctant to do that interview. I wouldn't even did that. Like, hell nah. Where they got. Dang. I understand. Hell no. I would have been like that. But I did the interview because I'm a journalist and I feel like it's. It's always another side to the story. Let's pick this man brain. Then when I picked his brain, it's like, damn, I know this ain't fair to say. Like, damn, I kind of like this nigga. Like, I don't like what he did. I kind of like this. I like what he's saying. You know what I'm saying? I like his mindset. I just know. And that's how that's. You get being. Being a podcast or interview, bro, like, you don't know. You can go. You can go into an interview with your mind set, a pre thought with somebody, and then you hear. Even with Thug, like, when you hear Thug like, damn, bro, you saw your brother get killed. You saw this. Damn, damn, you came up like that. It kind of make you be like, damn.

[Big Facts]

It give you empathy for it. If I just judge you off your actions alone, then like. And that's the. About the Internet too. It's like, I'm only judging you. What I see what you. And this is why I'm saying the thing about perspectives that's very important is that it is actually giving you a different perspective. Like, it's a cause and effect thing. It's not just like what you see. It's like so much different layers. Cause when you hear Thor's story about how he come up, it's like, well, shit, A nigga kind of gotta adopt the mindset. He got to deal deal with that facts. And the same thing with Woody is like, okay, I might not agree with how any of this turned out from either side. Whatever. That ain't my point exactly. But what lead up to this is the important part. Because now it's like, well, this a human, bro.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

You know what I'm saying? Labels aside, rapper, street rat, whatever you want to put label, you want to put on a. That's your business. But the human, you got to be understanding of that.

[Bank]

I'll be trying to figure out, like, what was your mindset when you made your choice? That's my whole thing. So all that Godfather. And you can tell me. Okay, Y' all follow me. When. When they had the myths out there, so called wrong. Okay? Like, these saying the streets, right? I get what they saying. But I live like the streets. My actions. If you look at me, my action show. Didn't like that street.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

You know what I'm saying? This out here playing golf, this hiking, this vegan, this holistic. You know what I'm saying? He really doesn't say.

[Big Facts]

And in three years, though.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

Because when you first started 2021, I'm saying.

[Bank]

Are you talking about which one?

[Big Facts]

You could see it physically.

[Bank]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Facts]

From when you started Big Fats till now.

[Bank]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Facts]

Because I.

[Bank]

When I'm at six years ago.

[Big Facts]

Okay, six. Six years. So when I used to first watch Big fan. I'm like, damn, bank breathing hardy. Hell.

[Bank]

Thank you. I saw it in the comments.

[Big Facts]

Be like, man, I can't watch this shit. Bank breathing hard as fuck.

[Bank]

Like they were saying it in the comments, bro. And get. What a idiot would take it? Like, hey, hey. Nah, nigga. No, I hear it too. You gotta have. You gotta take that, what they call it? Destructive charisma.

[Big Facts]

Constructive criticism. Yeah.

[Bank]

What about the other one, the negative part? Destructive. Destructive criticism turn into constructive.

[Big Facts]

Right, Right.

[Bank]

You gotta take the destructive and turn. Even though they might be hating they telling the truth.

[Big Facts]

That's opinion, you know what I'm saying?

[Bank]

Even though they might be saying it. Like all this fat ass saying some hurtful with the truth is still the truth.

[Big Facts]

It's still the truth.

[Bank]

You still breathe the hard as a. Do something about it.

[Big Facts]

And you sitting down.

[Bank]

Thank you.

[Big Facts]

Look, bro, I ain't gonna hold you did before I even knew you was coming up here. Because I know that about myself. Like, that's how I felt at the time. Like, I can't listen to this breathing hard as we was Doing the rapper episode. And I'm in. I'm in the beaving hearty. And I'm like, damn, this is the same reason I ain't listening to. I gotta go tighten this up. And then some of the comments like, who breathing like that? I'm like, But I do the same. Like my first mind might be to be offended, but I'm defensive because I know you saying some real. Yep, I don't want to come because like my ego tell me I'm perfect. I ain't doing nothing wrong. But the reality is it's always some shit you can tighten up on. Like, I had did one interview. It was a great interview. But people was like, you struggle with not letting people complete their thoughts. Like, you so excited to chime in. And while you is keeping up a good conversation, they was finna take it somewhere. And we don't even know where they was gonna take it. Cause you done.

[Bank]

I do that too sometimes, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Facts]

But I'm excited cause I'm like, bro, this is a great conversation. And this made me think of this. But it's also like, you the interviewer though.

[Bank]

You can't stop. Nobody thought.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, because goddamn, they came over here for you. They came to talk to you, but also to share their piece. Like, you solo on Wednesdays. When you doing your solo, you do your solo when you got a guest, you kind of gotta let them the breathe. And I was struggling with that and my first mind, like, well, I ain't really no interviewer. For real. Like, I ain't no media. But it's like, yes, you are. You are media, nigga.

[Bank]

If you want some paper, you better.

[Big Facts]

Be, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

[Bank]

If you're gonna be a streamer, just stream. Then if you want to, you know what I'm saying? Sit in front of computer by yourself. But if you're gonna do this, you gotta goddamn, you gotta watch the greats and tap in. Because then what I'm gonna do is jumping start watching, you know. Cause we just be freestyling, man. You know what I'm saying? Like how you just said I liked it, how you just sit down. That's how I was doing perspective at first. Then they were like, man, nah, you got. I should just. I just had the camera roll as soon as you walk in. So whatever it is, all right. Is on. Same way you did that while I was smiling when I was like, we rolling?

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

You know what I'm saying? But yeah, man, this shit wide open, bro. Like you said right now, it's like you say your podcast is like, oh, this podcast. That's just what it is right now. I'm glad we kind of started way before like a lot of podcasts because it's like now we looking like as if we didn't jump on it. Like it's kind of hard to start now. Like how you say you starting pandemic, right? Yeah, that's. That's good. That's good timing. You know what I'm saying? That's why your going up how it's going up. Like starting now. It ain't impossible, but it's hard because people, people trying to. People want to overlook it because it's saturated.

[Big Facts]

Like, well, I think the other thing is too. It's like I built my audience first so I People kind of like they with me and they fought what I'm saying. But it's like, but the funny. He tapped into like everything that's going on. Like he put me on music, he put me on movies, he put me on books. But also too like this working just like us like this in a truck right now. This finna go from this state to that state. And then he gonna tap in when he stopped. So it's like people with me and I was like, well, that personality that I already got over here, like the fan base that I got, I could just transfer this to a podcast and then I could pop my shit at length. You know what I'm saying? But I think nobody know who you is and then you just start a podcast. It's like, well, what the fuck?

[Bank]

Exactly.

[Big Facts]

That's what make a go on there and say anything. Because they trying to get on.

[Bank]

Yep.

[Big Facts]

Because they don't want to go to hard.

[Bank]

Exactly. Like you got a backstory basically.

[Big Facts]

You feel me?

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

And I got people that like can say one of the biggest things that people say, like, bro, I've been with you since you've been in the truck. That mean they would with me before a podcast. They were with me when I was only on Tick Tock.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

But the thing is, is like even with you, you got movies and films that you've been in. And I think my. My favorite thing about like, like Superfly, like it didn't really feel like you was portraying that. It felt like, oh, they just put him in the middle. Crazy. Just I'm be myself. Because you was talking to the. With the table. Stop being lying. Yeah, don't put the money. I'm like, exactly. You can't act that. That's something you really have to feel.

[Bank]

No, but the crazy part about this, I said this a thousand times, bro, when they gave me the strip. I like, bro, I can't really read that good. Y' all just tell me what the to say. Well, I'm gonna say. Let me just tell me what it's about and let me. They let me say my own words exactly. Everything I said was my words. It wasn't nothing wrote down. Yeah, like what he finna say. I know what I'm going say. Just let him say what he said. And I know what I'm going say.

[Big Facts]

This is because I would. You got to be yourself. Like, I'mma react to whatever you going to say the way I would have react.

[Bank]

Exactly.

[Big Facts]

So it's like it really ain't acting except for the fact that it's a script and we on camera.

[Bank]

And I might have to redo it. And I might have to redo it, do another angle. But yeah, other than that, man, I sweat. Them folk move up how I wanted to. They let me do it. The out you were rocking out.

[Big Facts]

Because, you know, like, it was like a time like 0802 where like blogs in Atlanta was big.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

Where would just go to the hood and put a camera on like. Like, remember when Shadow was coming up and they used to be in bowling homes? I'm like, the videos used to just be like, bro, yeah, look, all the young with a gun. Look, they right here. And I'm pulling up in the charges. This is a video. Yeah, but. But you used to be doing like little interviews and it would be very rare. But I remember when I seen it and then when I seen you in a movie, I'm like, that not acting.

[Bank]

Yeah, that's his same self, that buddy.

[Big Facts]

He just said the same on the block, but you ain't had to. And then the thing is, you don't got to change out your goals. You don't got to put on no hair makeup. You ain't got to do none of the extra just show up.

[Bank]

I brought my own clothes, except that coat. They gave me that coat, but I brought my own.

[Big Facts]

That big fur, right? Yeah, yeah. Because there ain't no reason to have it in Atlanta.

[Bank]

For real. They brought that shit? Yeah. Chicago.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. The best thing about it, though, is to be able to see your evolution, right. As coming out the street, for one, is hard as fuck, damn near impossible. Because a lot of people, like, don't understand. Like, you come out the street personally, you still got the same friend Facts. So it's like they on and then kind of feel like a little loyalty to these. Like, okay, like, I ain't gonna be all the way in it. But like, I had a gun for you. I ain't no pressure. You could put the work at the crib. I ain't no person, but it's like, that's not you getting out the street.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

You playing.

[Bank]

I ain't doing that.

[Big Facts]

You playing.

[Bank]

You know, my friends, my friend. I got some real good friends, bro. Because like, my friends, like from day. My day ones and who was still around. And man, because them don't even call me unless they call me. Like, what the hell going on?

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

But they call check on your lovely. They knowing ain't on what they own. And they ain't on when I'm on.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

Cause when I try to fight them, everybody walk up no mountains, man. Like, man, do all this. You know what I'm saying? You got to pull it up by myself. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. These don't want to come sitting here and listen to me do no interview. They don't want to do that. Came to be fatty, bro. You do that.

[Big Facts]

That's your job.

[Bank]

We proud of you. You do that here. Yeah, we're gonna repost it. But, bruh, the process of that shit. Hell no.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

And the process of the shit that with some of them on, that ain't for me. Cause it triggers you. You can't halfway do neither one. You can't halfway do this, and you can't halfway through the streets.

[Big Facts]

Nah.

[Bank]

So you can't do both.

[Big Facts]

I think more than anything too is like, you can't. You really can't. You got to take both your feet out the street.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

Because that gonna up everything else you got going on. Because, like, be talking about the street like it's a mythical place. These are committing crimes. Everything they doing is finishing the penitentiary. So you can't halfway do that because then you're gonna feel like, damn, bro. Like, I wouldn't even really own that. Yes, you would.

[Bank]

Yes. You were a like a said, if he had bricks. And you know you had bricks, but you got them. Know a nigga who want one and you go get one brick your first time. And when you leaving to go sell, you finna go make a thousand dollar jewel. You sell bricks. If you get pulled over with that brick, use a. They do not care about if it's your first time.

[Big Facts]

It don't matter. It don't matter. Yeah.

[Bank]

Even if you didn't make it to make the first sale, boy, you got caught with it.

[Big Facts]

Actually, you the most. You the worst dope boy of all time. You the worst one of all time. But. And like, my mama used to be saying, telling me that shit all the time, like, man, you gonna fuck around and be in the truck and they gonna kick that shit in, and them folks don't care what you in there for. And. Cause. Cause I be lying like, man, I ain't over there selling drugs. Them just my homeboy. She be like, okay, well, when they kick that door in, as far as they concerned, you sell drugs.

[Bank]

I feel like me personally, bro, what made me be able to. To just be like that and stand on it? Because I made the promise to God. I promise you, whatever ain't. Whatever I ain't did. I ain't gonna do nothing else. I ain't. You know what I'm saying? When you make that promise, I ain't gonna hold you.

[Big Facts]

Me and you sitting in the same boat.

[Bank]

Exactly.

[Big Facts]

I had caught crazy little charge, and I knew it was like the only way I could be discharged is if don't nobody snitch.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

And I know I'm holding it down, but I don't know what d n gonna do. And I. I was in jail. And I'm just praying. I'm like, boy, God, boy, look, I know I done told you a thousand times, but, boy, if you get me out this shit, I promise you I'm done with that street shit. Beat the charge, got out, went and got a job. I got a job at Cold Stone Creaming. Nigga. Anybody who would hire me, I just, like, I'm done with this shit.

[Bank]

Ain't nothing wrong with that. But that shit put you on your path, though, for sure.

[Big Facts]

And like, you know, I still got all the experience and everything, and I ain't. And I don't be sitting here kicking it like I'm some super duper street nigga. I had all the emotions. Like, I was on some, though, for sure.

[Bank]

You went out there, went out there.

[Big Facts]

Nah, that. That get hot quick. You know what I mean? So I think for you, it's a. It's a multiple layered thing to see. You go from, okay, I'm a. I'm a. I'm gonna get up out this and get into entertainment. I might not be at the forefront, but I make sure the. That around me got a voice. And then you parlay that into acting, then you parlaying that into a career in media, being a journalist with big facts. But now to see you on perspectives, it's almost like all that work that you put in to get away from this shit, this is like the peak of that shit.

[Bank]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Facts]

Because you done got your health together. You don't learn so much about your interview skills and shit like that. You can see it like, you really. The thing about Thug is in that interview, the most fire shit, from my perspective is the fact that you just letting nigga talk. You ain't trying to put your opinion on that. You like shit. He got a lot to say. And, like, you really making my job easy. I ain't gotta ask you answer no questions. Cause my job is to ask questions.

[Bank]

Yeah, you can't get caught up in trying to stop. Somebody thought like, you just saying you can't stop. Nobody thought like, this is a therapy session for these dudes. You know what I'm saying? So he getting. Let him get it off. And then, you know when you see somebody, you say something wrong or you feel like it's something wrong, as a friend or as an interviewer, you wanna be like, well, can you look at it like this? And then let them say what they say?

[Big Facts]

Yeah, you do that. You do that. You always time it right. Like, I ain't just gonna let you go. All right, now, like, we gotta reel it back in. I ain't just gonna let you just go out there.

[Bank]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Facts]

I ain't just going for anything. But, you know, you also, like, it would give a person, like, some time to, like, explain that, though. Explain your. Like you said, how you come to thinking about this shit the way you think about it? Cause, like, when I heard the fuck the street shit, my response to it is like, that's well and good, but it's a lot of niggas that actively been saying the streets, and they go back into the streets and try to repel the shit they up. So if we ain't talking about repair, then you can't really say the streets. If you ain't gonna go back to the streets and feed the streets. Or at least in the perspective of putting a on a different path when you see him headed there. Because you do got influence. If you. If you've been in the street and respect you as an entertainer that come out the street, you got influence over niggas that's in the street. And if you don't use the inner influence for good or you ain't giving a no alternative, then a might feel like you saying, me?

[Bank]

Yeah, no, I think, I think. I think. I think that was just Emotion flying. Just said type the wrong. You're not saying he's trying. He meant to say that street.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, exactly.

[Bank]

Not the streets. You can never say that street. Basically putting the street trying to make music, entertainment, business. Some streets. That's where it's up. It ain't the same. It can street doing music but the. The industry is not the streets.

[Big Facts]

No. And you gonna run into a paperwork gangster.

[Bank]

You'Re gonna do your way worse.

[Big Facts]

Than the street that worse than the judge they self, bro.

[Bank]

See the thing about it is man, we everything up bro. Brought the music into the streets and all that up equally is start looking at entertainers and rappers as leaders. They're entertainers, they're rappers. They ain't leaders. Some of them can lead, but they're rappers. How you looking to this as your idol or you worshiping or they were law. They don't go like that. You might want to go to a church or something or somebody that do that. Go listen to a motivational speaker, rap them change their mind tomorrow. You know what I'm saying? These on drugs and all type. Not everybody.

[Big Facts]

But I'm just saying no on the.

[Bank]

Rappers that you can listen to. We don't listen to them. The rappers that we can listen to and we say that they. They don't make the kind of music that we want to hear. You get what I'm saying? Like the motivational rappers that actually you supposed to look up to people look past but they trying to get their game from a nigga who's still learning the game. It don't work like that.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

Just because a. A rapper don't mean he been through this. He don't have the wisdom or the knowledge to to lead you. He just tell you his story for sure.

[Big Facts]

And also too you might be giving me some street game, but you ain't even in the street no more.

[Bank]

Thank you. You were never in the street or.

[Big Facts]

Because we be talking about this all the time. Like if you look at a rapper as a role model, you might as well look at like Stone Cold Steve Austin as a role model.

[Bank]

Same shit.

[Big Facts]

Wrestler wrestling.

[Bank]

But the thing about it is you got some rappers that really been in the streets, been this, been that. So they try to go to the extent to show you and make they self look cheesy at the same time.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. Cause like not cause like what you trying to prove to me for? Because all the ones I ain't I. Well like even for you, your song wasn't even about no like your biggest hit wasn't There about no Streets. It was about some players.

[Bank]

I told them that I took Ali trouble. All them that, bro, you gotta finesse this, bro. Like, even though that music. Y' all making this hard as a. But give us one of these, bro. Get it like they had them. But the. The streets want the. You know what I'm saying? I wanted the too. That's how I used to play. But. But it's just like, you gotta, like. Like I tell my son this all the time, right? The tongue is so powerful, bro. You could just be rapping some that you don't feel like. But the song's so hard. And you. You gotta rap it forever. So you really putting out energy that's gonna come back to you. No matter what you saying. If you got a song, your. Your biggest song could be shoot a shooter. Shooter, shooter, whatever. They can be your biggest song.

[Big Facts]

All right?

[Bank]

You saying this every day. 365 days to crowds. Eventually you're gonna have to shoot a on me.

[Big Facts]

And they saying it back to you.

[Bank]

And they saying it back to you.

[Big Facts]

See what I'm saying that now you done doubled. You done quadrupled it up. It done went 100 fold. However many niggas.

[Bank]

That's the energy now.

[Big Facts]

That's the energy. And then you gonna run into a nigga that shoot.

[Bank]

And I'm saying with my pimping, niho gonna eventually fuck with my pimping.

[Big Facts]

You hear me? Try it out.

[Bank]

I want some money.

[Big Facts]

Hey, just try it out. That's all I'm saying. Exactly.

[Bank]

That's what I'm saying. Like that. Just. But I'm all out. Like, bro, I've always just been like a cool to me. You know what I'm saying? I'm a Gemini. But I'm always out to me. I've always been a cool. I ain't never needed a mask to put on to be like, okay, I'm crazy. I'm hard. I ain't gotta be that.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

Crawl around line. Then I'm gonna show you I ain't gonna have a choice but to be that.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, for sure.

[Bank]

But other than that, I used to always tell the young bro, bro, say your good times, why you gonna do all this? And then when the time you need it, like savings, why you gonna be in the club, jumping on, beating up, shooting, doing all this. And then when it's time to protect yourself, you don't ran out of. Yo, what. What it is?

[Big Facts]

Grace.

[Bank]

You don't ran out of your grace period. Oh, that. You ain't have to use it for.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, because like. Like, no matter what happened, like, man, that used to be tearing the club up all the time. That what he do. And he's like, bro, I swear to God, I ain't did. It's like, yeah, this time I was really. Swear to God. But like, nah, that's what you.

[Bank]

You don't built your face. That. That's what it is, man. Time to spank you. Even with the universe, with God, with the. With the. With the government, it's time to spank you, bro. We've been hearing about you. Yeah, okay, just think about the who never went in there. And then it come to him.

[Big Facts]

All.

[Bank]

All. All arts is with him. Yeah, he gonna smoke. You get away with it, they gonna let him out of jail.

[Big Facts]

He gonna be free because they gonna be like, he a good. He don't bother nobody.

[Bank]

Exactly.

[Big Facts]

Cause your reputation ain't there.

[Bank]

Exactly.

[Big Facts]

I had a partner, he was going through a situation where he was in a studio and somebody like, something came up missing and they accused him and he like, bride and take your shit. Like, if I'd have took your shit, I'd have did it proudly. And I was like, bro, all your music about Robin, you took it. Even if you didn't. Even if you didn't, you did.

[Bank]

But that's the right.

[Big Facts]

He like, damn, I ain't even think about that. I'm like, bro, that's the energy you putting out. So even if a. With you get what happened first time, something coming missing, they gonna go to the. That actively talk about robbing it, but.

[Bank]

That all come together like. Like, you gotta think, bro. Like, I'm glad you said, brother. Duck tape. Like, even when I had the song tried out, I wouldn't duck. Duct tape is my company. They didn't affiliate that with duct tape. You get what I'm saying?

[Big Facts]

Because it wasn't no duct tape. It was some big.

[Bank]

I am duct tape.

[Big Facts]

You get what I'm saying?

[Bank]

But what I'm trying to tell you is you, the people you're around, right? You basically become whatever their opinion is or whatever their image is. You basically become a product of that.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, you're an accessory.

[Bank]

You're accessory to that. You know what I'm saying? Even though it did. My company did what it is with these young.

[Big Facts]

The reputation of duct tape is literally like duct tape and street. Yeah, gangster.

[Bank]

Exactly.

[Big Facts]

So when we go try it out, it's like, that's not no duck type. That's some big bank.

[Bank]

Exactly.

[Big Facts]

But this ain't no duck Type.

[Bank]

Exactly.

[Big Facts]

It's gangster.

[Bank]

People don't even know. Like, you gotta think, bro. And that be tripping me out. Like, bank has been five over the last 20, 15, 20 years, bro. Try that. Bank ain't the same as goddamn tried out Bank. Well, hold up, Mason Avenue. Bank ain't the same as try it out Bank. For sure try it out bank ain't the same as duct Tape Bank. Duct Tape bank ain't the same as Superfly Bank. Superfly bank ain't the same as hiking with bank. Or you know what I'm saying?

[Big Facts]

Eat all different.

[Bank]

Like, a nigga might meet me. Meet me doing perspective and be like, oh, damn, you. You had a record label. Like, listen to this. And they'd be like, oh, you had a record label. Oh, Dante. Oh, he know Trouble them. Oh, he know Allen them. You get what I'm saying?

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

They wouldn't even know because like you said, I ain't never wear none of this shit. Like, I'm wearing perspective. Like, this is me. Big facts. I'm wearing this. This is me. This is who I am in my prime. Because this is what makes me feel as. Like, I can see this in my future. You get what I'm saying? Certain shit I just saw, like. Like, duct tape that's in my heart, that's on my head, that's on my. My son's still signing that company. That's my company. Still my company. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Facts]

But it was a means to the end, though.

[Bank]

I didn't see myself as a rapper, even though I made a song like Alan Trouble Got Locked up the same day I made a song, put it out. It was a hit. Try it out was a hit.

[Big Facts]

That's my first song. Crazy. For sure. That's crazy.

[Bank]

Two flashy artists get locked up the same day.

[Big Facts]

That's crazy as that's. That may be the first, like, hit record that come out of that label.

[Bank]

Yes.

[Big Facts]

And it. The. But the people that you pushing and putting the money behind, they've been rapping their ass off. And it's like, it rang in the street. But y' all was ringing like, bro, it wasn't. No, it was a time like, bro, we going to the club. That tried out. Coming on.

[Bank]

But no, we lit that. Lit us up. Lit the label, lit it up so bad that when Alec did first come out, they was calling about to try it out. Even though they knew about it, they were calling about try it out. We were like, nah, man. We working on Alley. We got Ellie, ended up Getting signed because he did have a movement. We had to drop that, throw it up and all that. That was going crazy. Yeah, he gets signed or whatever, immediately, I'm telling him I ain't even doing no more. Trying it out.

[Big Facts]

That we just tried it. All we gonna try.

[Bank]

That was just. That was just a means to get us here. Alice, who I believe in right over all that, Ali boy is who I believe in over me. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Facts]

School.

[Bank]

School was just a young gunner, like. And I ain't saying I didn't believe in him, but it wasn't his turn yet. He was still a baby. Like, he wasn't even around us like that yet.

[Big Facts]

Right.

[Bank]

All the way. But Alan was. Because I've been listening to this since he. Because we close in age. He like three. Three years younger than me and my little brother's best friend. So I've been knowing him. I've been knowing his story. I know the music is official. I know he official. So this is where everything in one bubble. And then we. He had trouble right here. Trouble ready, too. Then both of these got hot. What's up? So by the time Ally get out, he go sign the Atlantic. Go up. Trouble come out like a year or two after that. Go right up. Go. You know what I'm saying? Because we kept the momentum going. You get what I'm saying?

[Big Facts]

You had paid away for the shit. Still. It was. But it's also, like, a testament to you as a leader and, like, as an entrepreneur. Like, dude, the. That's gonna make us. The money is gone. I gotta make some shape facts. And then you just made it. But you done made it shake in the craziest way, though. Cause, like, who think they finna. Honestly, it's not. Isn't. It's. There's less than 1% of niggas on earth who can say I ain't no rapper. For real. I went in the studio, made a hit, and piped my all the way up.

[Bank]

The crazy part about it is, bro, I record the. At Candy House because AJ got. Long live aj. Him and Candy was, You know, they. They had what. They had they thing going. So I was over there. She had a studio in the back. I recorded. And I went to the club. I went to Crucial, gave the CD to DJ mlk. Shout out to mlk. MLK killed the cd. I was like, let me get that CD back, bro. This ain't missing that. He like, but I'm keeping this. So that's the first sign of. Damn, this must Be hard. MLK throw you your dis back. You don't throw me plenty of dishes back up. You're like, no, I'm keeping this. It was just one verse. It didn't even have a hook on it. I mean, it was just a hook in a verse. Didn't even have cannon verse, nothing. So I went back over there, I was like, man, they with that camera. Like, that's a hit. Let me get on it. She got on it. That took two weeks, that motherfucker was gone.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, yeah. And that's at the time too. Like, the DJs in Atlanta is like some of the most slept on a RS ever. Like, they'll really turn your shit up.

[Bank]

Right then and there.

[Big Facts]

Right then and there. Like because of what go on in the club scene in Atlanta. It's like you can literally be at the club before you get to the club, because you can go turn on 1079 and whatever club you going. If you going to the club. And they playing, they playing that on the radio too. So it's like I'm already catching that vibe. Like I'm with the DJ another night that she used to be just like blue, Blue flame, Magic City, same. It's just like certain spots, certain dj, they had something to pull. Like if they play your and people with it, you gotta hit.

[Bank]

I'm gonna give a shout out to the radio too. And I ain't never did this shoutout to J1. J1 was the first one. He called me. He like, bro, I just heard song putting it in. Like, I'm putting it in rotation for sure. This ain't no payola, no nothing, no nothing. He called me like, bro, I'm a pd. I get to put in a song. Finna put this one in. I'm putting it in rotation. After he put it in, I think he was at 179, 100 spot Grand street and I'm putting it in. Then this person put in for, you know, I'm on all three stations, top 10 in less than a month.

[Big Facts]

You was going crazy, bro. I'm telling you. I remember that shit vividly, but I.

[Bank]

Never did embrace it.

[Big Facts]

Cause you ain't wanna be no rapper, period. But at the end of the day, it's also a good thing too because you didn't get caught up in the hype where it did what it did. But it ain't keep you stuck there fact you was able to keep going. So, like, it probably ain't no big facts if you still trying to do the 10 year anniversary of Try it out.

[Bank]

Oh, hell, But I hate get what that shit so cringing with me, bro. When I be placed, they be playing the song. I be like, bro, that ain't even me no more, bro.

[Big Facts]

So when you going to a spot and, like, know you there, they'll try to throw that in the mix.

[Bank]

Yeah, like, try to throw it out. Like, bro, you gotta think, like, we could be anywhere. Dj, anywhere. We could be on the radio station they playing. I'm like, bro, stop playing this, man. Yeah, bro, I was tired of hearing it back then. When I recorded, I, God forbid, I hated. I made it a hit.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

I had a thought before every show, bro. Like, I had anxiety about doing music.

[Big Facts]

What you think it is, though? You think it would just like being that public, being that visible?

[Bank]

I can't say that because I can have a podcast or I can do show when I post my show.

[Big Facts]

I don't care.

[Bank]

I'm ready to cut up on stage. I guess I just feel like rapping wasn't me.

[Big Facts]

Right, right, right, right.

[Bank]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Facts]

I accidentally stumbled into some fame type shit, right? Yep. Yeah. But I mean, here's the thing, though. I want to know, like, what. What you learned from that situation as. As you pursue entertainment, though. Like, what did you learn from that time where you did have a hit single? Like, did it teach you more about the labels? Did it teach you more about what the club scene is? Or did it kind of give you, like, a break on the fourth wall? Cause you know when you trying to get in, you don't really know how this shit operate. So once you get a hit, I'm pretty sure they just open the world up to you.

[Bank]

Oh, no. Once you get a hit, it just lets you know, like, it's all it take. So that's the only thing I'm preaching them. Like, yeah, y' all ain't going crazy. This going crazy. But you gotta make that hit, bro. Make that banger. And these have the bangers, but they be like, nah, brain time for that yet. But. But in the same thing is what makes them smart for saying that? Like, Allen, I'm like, hell nah, bro. I'm building my core. I want these folk to with me first. Like you said, like being in the truck.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

Then now this right here, this grits, and that, this the hit. You know what I'm saying? You gonna eat forever out the hit. But that truck got you your core.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. And I ain't want to do no podcast. I ain't like, I Always knew my granny just, like, drilled this into my head. Haste, make waste. Haste make waste. Like, if you want to rush to do something, the faster you get it, the faster it go away. So once I started getting popular, I was like, I wonder, can I sustain this for a year, though? Because I still gotta do my job. I still gotta take care of my kids. I ain't making no money out this. So I ain't never confused about, like, fame and money. I ain't confused about that. I'm working 70 hours a week in that truck. They don't care about none of these. Follow me on TikTok.

[Bank]

I trade. If I trade the following for dollars, right?

[Big Facts]

If y' all give me a hundred thousand dollars a week out of here, you feel me? I make a video every hour. But the thing is, is, like, I knew. I was, like, I was smart enough to know, like, this gonna parlay into something. I don't know what that is yet, but I know also, I can't fall in love with the fact that I'm popping on TikTok because, like, in the scheme of thing, that don't mean nothing because it don't translate to nothing. And I'm also not the type of. That's gonna be. Get ready with me to go to the truck stop. Like, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. I'm not giving. I'm not giving. Tick Tock shop. Yeah, come try this vacuum cleaner. I'm not doing that. So it's like. And if you do that, that's. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to you. But I just know, for me, I'm not doing it.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

So it's like, okay, I'm not gonna make money the Tick Tock way, but I'm gonna figure something out. All these people here for something. I'm gonna figure out something, but it just ain't gonna be that right now. And people was like, do a podcast. Do a podcast. And I'm also in that time where, like, I seen everybody do podcasts. They ain't talking about. I'm like, bro, I'm not doing that. That's like telling. I rap. I don't want to do that.

[Bank]

It really is. It's for the chosen, though.

[Big Facts]

But I'm telling you, only so many, bruh. If 200 people tell you to start a podcast, you got to start a podcast.

[Bank]

But the thing about that podcast, think it's easy work. But y' all really working here.

[Big Facts]

I was working.

[Bank]

Keep it a brick.

[Big Facts]

This work, man. Look Bro default. Don't know why I be having it. So look. Cause he my co host, but he be off camera even on the main show. But when I do interviews, he just post up. But like, he know like, boy, nigga, we been up since seven in the morning. It done been days. This shit don't end till two in the morning.

[Bank]

How many episodes you feeling in one day?

[Big Facts]

The most in one day. If it's solo, we just do the one. Unless we do a patreon and we might push that to the next day. But Ferg, I done did three in this in one day before I did two here. Go do another one. Like when we did 85 south, we did two here left, went to 85 south at 2 in the. Like, we ain't leave there till 2 in the morning. I had to catch a flight the next day, go to New York and do it all over again.

[Bank]

That crazy. I gotta go New York in the morning. But the crazy part about it is that's what I do. I might go out there and take a week and record four days. A week, three episodes a day. What that is? That's 12 episodes. Shit. That's three months.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

I ain't gotta even worry about perspective for three months. I'm finna go goddamn grind some other shit. Do big fact the same way. We stack em up, get em on out the way.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. And when you're doing interviews, it really ain' current event, so you ain't gotta. Because he like, I was like, bro, we start back January. I. I normally try to do an interview a week so I can stay a week or two ahead. But I'm doing 10 that month.

[Bank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Facts]

So they like, we good if we drop one every week, we good for 12. 12 weeks.

[Bank]

Yep.

[Big Facts]

Like, we straight.

[Bank]

Get that out of the way, do something different, man. That's how I look at it, you know. Cause like, you gotta make like you say you make timeless conversations instead of something that we talking about, you know, saying Trump and Venezuela and all this. Yeah.

[Big Facts]

And then also too, it's like that ain't everybody bad. You know it. We was recording yesterday and a lot of people was like, man, I can't wait to hear what you got to say about the Venezuela. And it's like, man, that's crazy. I ain't got nothing to say about it. Because it's like for when this war. What the you going with it is what it is. We know what we do as Americans. We go places and we get the resources. We some takers. But it's like, you can't with us. Who got the biggest gun? What you gonna do?

[Bank]

So Trump, just a nigga that really exercise them guns.

[Big Facts]

He want to activate that shit. And the thing is, is that he know he not popular where, like, Obama was just as active with the moral machine as anybody else, but he got charisma where he. He pulling your attention away from what's going on behind the scenes. Cause you could really enjoy America. Cause it's like our president lit life good, money good. We don't bounce back from the economic downfall. You know what I'm saying? The house is coming back up. I'm straight. I ain't really worried about how many bombs we dropping in the Middle east every day. But Trump like, nah, look, we just did. Check us out. We got that handcuffed in it with us. We just took off a government.

[Bank]

He's like, took a country.

[Big Facts]

Just took. Y' all know, took a country, man, and put a. In a tick that I want.

[Bank]

Rocking that tick and grabbed the too.

[Big Facts]

Come on, man. We taking everything and we there for the reason. And Trump will tell you, like, nah, we over there for the world. And what y' all gonna do?

[Bank]

I think Trump, they all about positioning right now. That's why they won't.

[Big Facts]

He know that. He know, like, this is the thing. He got to be a threat because he not popular. So you got to fear his power because he ain't gonna win the popular, not even with us. But if he frame himself as powerful amongst the world. And two, these is all world leaders. So they operating on a different level than us anyway. A different understanding. We don't know. These all could be cool with each other. And this might be wrestling for real. Like, to them, like, we're gonna make it seem like we got conflict. But shoot me this and I'll shoot you that. And because they ain't hurting for. Not the way we is, and any. All their decisions affect us.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

You see what I'm saying? So for me, it's like, that's. That's the. That's the level of politic I can't speak to as an expert.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

I don't know how people in Venezuela live. And I know if it's up to America, they're gonna tell me they live in squalor. Facts, you know what I'm saying? But I can tell you, if we go on Edgewood right now, we're going Forsyth, we're going Auburn. These niggas over there living in squalor, too. So what? And I like And I like the.

[Bank]

Male.

[Big Facts]

You know what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? So it's like, it's certain levels where it's like, hey, that's above my way of knowledge. Like, that's above my pay grade, so to speak. I ain't gonna speak on everything. I speak on what I know. I speak on shit that I can actively research and come back with facts.

[Bank]

Real shit.

[Big Facts]

I can't come back with facts on that.

[Bank]

Now, the worst thing you could do is. That's why I would be like, make sure I put a disclaimer out there. I don't really know. This is how I think, you know what I'm saying? I don't speak shit like I'm speaking facts unless we on big facts. I'm dissect the facts, my perspective. That's why. That's just how I feel, you know what I'm saying? Because people will take your accounts and them folks will go back and be like, you contradicting yourself. You said this. You said this. I let you know, man. Hey, man, I wake up every day different. My morals and shit stay the same, but I might change my mind.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, I think that's a. That's a the lost art though, because like for me, how I felt six months ago might not be how I feel now because I might have got some new information. And I ain't scared to be wrong.

[Bank]

Me neither.

[Big Facts]

You know what I'm saying?

[Bank]

And I ain't scared to say I.

[Big Facts]

Was wrong that part. How. How is that journey for you being like, how old are you?

[Bank]

47.

[Big Facts]

47. So you go 40 some years of your life living the same way, so to speak, as far as your diet, your health is concerned. How hard of it was for one for you to change your mind around. Like, I'm going to change my health and then actually like actively pursue the discipline of it. Like you do it. You got to choose it every day.

[Bank]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Every day. Like, shit, today, like, I eat one time a day. That's just. I do now, but I had to build up today. It took like three, four years to get to that. But I had to make a choice. You want to live or die? Like I said, one of them checkup, you know, every year they was telling me like, hey, you gaining too much weight, man. You want to live? You know what I'm saying? You're gonna be borderline this. You know what I'm saying? This is how you catch diabetes. I went like 20, 19, 20, 20. They was like, yeah, you borderline diabetic, you're glucose, you got damn oxygen, you triglyceride, but you ain't finna go, yeah, are we surprised you're still living, you know what I'm saying? They try to get.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, I sure will.

[Bank]

They gave me like 12 to 16 prescriptions. Pills I would have to take for the rest of my life. She might up this, take this just in case that up I' all this. I just started walking first. I just stopped eating red meat, you know what I'm saying? Just graduated until I went vegan. I ain't still ain't reached my goal yet. My goal is to go alkaline, raw vegan.

[Big Facts]

But that all that shot the guard do. Yeah, that was a shot to God.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

When I had interviewed him, he was like, yeah, I don't eat when I'm outside. Yeah, I gotta cook all my food.

[Bank]

Yeah. Not real.

[Big Facts]

And I was like, damn, bro, this real.

[Bank]

I'm like that too. I don't eat fast food either, unless a on the road or something. But even then I go, go to the. I got my little. I ain't gonna get on phone, but I got a little blender. I ain't gonna give him a name. Gonna give him the name of it. I get to him, it's called a neutral bullet flip. You can put your in there and just flip it over and just. You know what I'm saying? Get all your, your minerals and. But yeah, but once you, Once you do it and start seeing the results, it become like, I should have been doing this, right?

[Big Facts]

Did you have to. Did you cut out like alcohol smoking any of that?

[Bank]

I smoke here and there, but I ain't never been no big drinker. I drank some wine here and there, but I gotta smoke a Batwood with me. Shouts out to Batwood. I'm in contract to smoke blunts.

[Big Facts]

Smoking the magnet you gotta go back with on them. Yeah. For me, that was one of my bigger goals this year is like, I think when I started doing it full time, I ain't paying attention to like how much stress it. It's stressful smoke. No, just like being entrepreneur.

[Bank]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Big Facts]

Like I left the truck in April, so I only been actively like out on my own for like eight months going online. But the way that it was turning up, I'm excited about, of course. But now I gotta learn a whole new world. Like, it's a whole new discipline. Making your own hours ain't really what everybody crack it up to be. Because shit, you'll Fuck around and won't give yourself time off. Cause you feel like you can't take no time off. So then I was like, shit. But I seen a picture of myself from the side side profile belly gang, you hear me? I was like, God damn to it.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

I said, bro, we gotta tighten this shit up. I was like, bro, I'm talking too vain for this.

[Bank]

But I went from 315 to 202. But five years, sheesh. Yeah, whole person gone.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. Now that's a whole human.

[Bank]

Yeah, it's a whole human, bro.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

3:15, like in that move, I was like, 3:15, 3:10 big bank.

[Big Facts]

For sure.

[Bank]

Yeah, right. Another day on like 202, I'll be going from like 198 to 200 to 205. And like that.

[Big Facts]

What's one of the things that you like as far as just things as far as like physical and mental differences that you can tell or like not only like how you feel, of course you feel better. But like anything, like mentally, what's the difference?

[Bank]

Yeah, you could. You get more like right now, you see how my word like that because I've been smoking, you know what I'm saying? But when I ain't smoking, I be fluently. Like when I'm on perspective, when I'm doing respect, I don't smoke on smoke. And now like I stopped smoking. Like I'm gonna stop smoking like this. We can detox. Cause I'll be back recording in probably like a couple weeks. I'm be crystal clear. Everything gonna come to me snappy. Like right now it's coming in a delay, that weed delay.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

You know what I'm saying? So. But far as just like eating well, like a. I got a lady here, so I can't really say that part, but wake up in the morning, but you can't even lay on your stomach, boy. This real, real boy. Give you all you. That's how you know you healthy, bro. Up in the morning, your dick hard, you healthy, you got some type of health.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

Got to know that. So.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

But your goddamn shrinking in the morning. You need to get checked out, dog.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, yeah. The body gonna give you signs real.

[Bank]

It's just different, bro. It's like even the skin, you see your skin and just. Just changes for you, bro. It's all on what you put in your body, dog. And in your mind. Like, you can't just detox the inside of your body gotta detox your mind too. That's a part of it. Like. Like, bro, I started out just walking, walking in the woods, bro. Not knowing, like, God, but God, God, God been good to me, bro. Because he just lead me in ways that I didn't plan on. I didn't plan on making. Try it out. I didn't plan on being a podcast. I went to DJ Screen. Excuse me? I went to DJ Screen to promote the show. He said, bro, have you ever thought about doing a podcast? I'm like, no. What is that? Never even heard of a podcast, right? And he asked me that off of. I did an interview with Future. I be asking him all kind of crazy questions. He was like, bro, I want you to interview me. I ain't never thought about being an interview. Ask a question in life. We just having a conversation on the jet. But he end up. We end up doing an interview, I think like 2017. And it came out on Apple Music. Everybody heard and shit. And that's why Screen asked me like, bro, you ever thought about being a podcast? I don't know nothing about no podcast, but if you set it up, I said, first that get money. You're like, yeah, yeah, you get some money off that. I like who podcast. He sent me a couple podcasts. I'm like, oh, then what it is? They talk. Yeah, yeah. Went in there, tried it. Whatever. What I meant when the first screen got out, what his name found direct or whatever, told me how much it was. We split down here. When I started interviewing and I was taking it as a joke, I wasn't taking it serious. It's just bank smoking, blood talking, you know what I'm saying? I started seeing the check started coming and people started saying, you can get this and you can get that. Okay, now it's time to get serious, Right? Like I say, it just all just pop up in my lap like, no, Once I get the blessing, then I plan on how to keep it for sure.

[Big Facts]

But you don't it all.

[Bank]

Yeah, yeah. I can't. I can't. Like, God always put everything in front of me, bro.

[Big Facts]

Like.

[Bank]

Even when I was going on my health journey, just some type of way went to health. Pop up that movie on Netflix.

[Big Facts]

Oh, yeah.

[Bank]

You know what I'm saying? I watch it. Yeah. I ain't eating no more meat. I'm one of them that I can say I ain't doing. That's. That's real power. God, thank you for that. That's real power. Cause I can say right now, I ain't with her no more. I won't with no more. Don't give a how I feel. Like my wife for 30 some years. I can say right now, you, if I wanted to.

[Big Facts]

And then you're gonna stand on it.

[Bank]

And stand on it, because that's just who I am as a person. That's willpower. Like, I love that lady to death, but if she did something or if I felt as if though I could do that. But I can say right now, smoke weed no more and do it. I don't know what it is. Like, I said one day I was on the block, one day on the back street, and I told my son, I ain't come back here no more. I ain't been back there since. It's just a blessing, bro. I don't know what it is. Like, it's just willpower. Like, I can say, I'm through drinking. I'm through drinking. I don't drink no more. Through eating me. I'm vegan. Only thing that's hard to do is just that raw vegan.

[Big Facts]

It's a tough one.

[Bank]

That. That hard, bro.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, well, because it's like, oh, you gotta like, basically prepare to eat for life.

[Bank]

Yep, for sure. It's hard. And you gotta go to markets and to get the food.

[Big Facts]

I mean, I always like, kind of look at folks from. I know that, like, the beginning part of my life, I would say the fur maybe 20 years of my life is out of my control.

[Bank]

Right.

[Big Facts]

I don't get to decide the circumstances of who my parents is, where I live at, where I grew up at. And like, that were rough too. And it. And it took me a long time to like, undo a lot of them ways of which I learned. Stop. Like, self sabotaging. Stop always. You know what I'm saying? Taking risk with sure things too. Like, I do it like I have a sure thing and be like, I wonder if I could gamble, like, just gambling with my life type. And so I feel like when I started making decisions to like, preserve or, like, take care of the things I do, got that when I get more. But it's like when I'm always acting like what I got is insignificant or like, always this mindset. I want more. I want more. Instead of appreciating the I got. It's like I always lose.

[Bank]

I'm facts. Yeah, that's the key. That's law of nature.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, that's law.

[Bank]

It's like, bro, how you gonna want something else? And you only appreciate what you got for sure. That's the truth, bro. Like, man, I'm the most appreciative. That is like, bro, that's why I say, bro, it's our duty. We got these mics in front of us and these cameras in front of us. I do this just to show gratitude through our actions and show like, bro, you can do it. Like, bro, it's so many times I be wanting to go back to being bank, you know what I'm saying? Goddamn. But it's like, man, you don't made yourself the example in front of these people eyes. You can't go back and forth. Certain, I be wanting to sell in that search. I be want to engage in certain, certain questions. I'd be wanting to ask certain interviews. I be wanting to be like, you lying, you a hoe, I swear to God. Certain, I just want to do. But I just can't do that. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Facts]

Just like, you gotta let a rock out.

[Bank]

I gotta, no, I gotta show that I'm an adult. I can't let how I feel or my emotions show that I'm unstable.

[Big Facts]

Right? You know, you gotta make the better I've been. I kind of came across a school of thought here lately, but it's not about with the right or wrong decision. It's about the best decision and the worst decision. Right, Right and wrong, that's subjective. Like what's right for me might not be right for you, but the best decision for me might be the best decision for both of us. And that perspective, right, the best decision.

[Bank]

For me is for me personally, how I get through it. And I hope this helps somebody else. They looking for a way to not even give a fuck like you, right? That's why I named the shit perspective. Because I ain't finna go back and forth with you about my opinion. It ain't opinions with bank, it's perspective. I respect your. I respect every man perspective for sure. Even if I feel like you dead ass wrong, I'm not finna show you that I feel like you're wrong because it's your perspective. You gotta be able to respect a man perspective because you don't know what shaped it.

[Big Facts]

And you, and by you respecting their perspective, they actually do dive deeper into like how they come to thinking the way they think, which bring understanding, right? Like if, if I know the, the events that, that led to this outcome, I could have empathy for a like, okay, you know what? Given the situation, I ain't know you been through that.

[Bank]

Exactly, exactly.

[Big Facts]

You know what I'm saying? And for me it's like I always look at the situation as like, damn, like I done stumbled into some but luckily, I got my mind right to the point where, like, I ain't tripping on being an example because, like, I'm an example for myself. I'm an example for my younger self too. And it's like, if I always just remind myself of, like, what would I have told myself when I was 17 that would have actually knowing the type of I was at 17 that didn't want to listen for. More than anything, because I ain't want to listen to nobody. I also didn't feel like nobody wanted to listen to I had to say, which made me go crazy with the actions. Like, I'm gonna show your ass. So now I just try to be like an example of should I live by the. Should I say? Like, you ain't got to believe what I'm saying. You can see it. And as long as I stay with that, of course there's times where it's like. It's easy to kind of revert back. Because that was easy. That was like I was living life on easy. Like a. Every day. All my decisions is crazy as it's all impulse. I ain't thinking about the outcome. I ain't thinking about the consequences. I ain't thinking about who this should affect. I'm going for what I know for. For what I feel like is best for me. Which reality is worse for everybody around. So, like, you want to go back or. Or just try. Like, for one, I'm not going back and forth with you, bro. Because that's gonna stop the conversation.

[Bank]

Yep.

[Big Facts]

Because now we only talking about your opinion. In my opinion.

[Bank]

Not even start the conversation. It's gonna stop future conversations for sure. Like when knowing like, man, I ain't going on that man trying to embarrass that just feel like, you know, everything. Like I'm going to bank hearing a out bank letting get off for sure. You know? So you gotta letting it get off and let the comment decide if the line of he telling the truth.

[Big Facts]

Right.

[Bank]

It ain't my job, but I can tell you how if you ask me, you gotta think if y' all watch my. If Nick gotta ask me, so what you think? Then I'm gonna tell you.

[Big Facts]

Right, Right. Right. Yeah.

[Bank]

I ain't just gonna tell you what I think because I'm like, damn. Well, I might say, could you look at it like this? You know what I'm saying?

[Big Facts]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bank]

I'm not gonna attack nobody, bro.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

Cause I don't want to be attacked.

[Big Facts]

Like. Yeah. My, my. With my interviews too. I always tell people like, it's more of a conversation. I'm gonna do my homework. But also, like, I ain't just gonna have somebody up here just because I got a name neither.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

Like, I don't. I ain't gonna say I don't with you, but I don't rock. Like, yeah, yeah. I ain't checking this. Like, you know what I'm saying? Okay. You do this and that, but, like, it ain't on my radar, right? And so it's like, I' ma come in this blind or I'm gonna have to go to Wikipedia or some. Like, I ain't really how I want to get down. I want this to feel natural. So, like, we was, like, literally laughing about you today. Because I said, we're gonna go. We're gonna go interview back, put the Edgewood on, and then we laugh about you. I'm like, but this really just told God, like, you know I'm a street, right? I don't ask you for nothing one time. Don't let him try it. Don't let her do something like that. We laughing like, brother, really just praying to God, like, you know, I'm street, so I play my street rules. I was, like, so crazy, though.

[Bank]

That was a real event. That whole move was real, though.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

You know, they added the different, like, club scenes and. But as far as, like, telling school not to go, not to go with them, that was real.

[Big Facts]

It's actually, on a personal level, is one of my favorite albums to come out of Atlanta.

[Bank]

Yeah. Shouts out to Mike Will.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

His manager, Derek. Derek. They did a great job with that. Yeah.

[Big Facts]

I told my wheel that. I said, you know, you had a lot of project. My favorite is Edgewood.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

It's like, because it's the audio and the visual, even the album itself sound like a movie. You know what I'm saying? But also, there may not be a lot of people that come from the real Atlanta that's represented in that. That's not chasing entertainment. Like, he just like, I'm gonna make an album. Cause I rap and I'm gonna make an album, but I ain't trying to be no rapper, so to speak. So it's like, it just sound like people I know, people I talk to, and I could relate to a lot of different points in it. Cause, like, whole time, bro is dropping some wisdom in that. But he might. And he being honest. Like, I'm still on the too, but, you know, this is what I know. And yeah, we was like, we just laughing about this. I was like, bro, this bank crazy like they gonna pray to God like, look, I don't ask you for shit with me one side, man.

[Bank]

Fuck with me, man. I still pray like that to this day.

[Big Facts]

But you should though. Cause it's like, I mean, you know me, I can't put on a show for God.

[Bank]

Yeah, like, I'm finna speak in tongues and all that. Nah, man, I'm finna say, hey, man, Napoleon get mine. Me mad, man. What the fuck going on, man? Talking to God, man. Tim, hey, man, make that fuck nigga go around, man. Talking regular sooner go inside me ho ass talking through the m your ass off. Know not me God with me. Get your ass on real, bro. He having whole conversation in the car.

[Big Facts]

That straight up in a bit to him.

[Bank]

But the shit's so crazy, bro. Like, it's crazy how people can actually when you change for the better. Like, not to say like I'm goddamn Martin Luther King or nothing. Them is nobody like that. But when you change, bro, people can recognize. Like the police pulled me over the other day, Jump behind me, I opened the door. Cause I, you know, my window don't roll out, open the door but the pool truck. Look at you're like, babe, man, turn your lights on, man. Police. Jump back in the car, pull out. He finna probably be an somebody. He looks at me, baby, turn your lights on, man. Jump back in the car and pull it off. I'm like, damn. I walk in public, police. How you doing, Bank? How you doing, man? Man, I like your podcast regular. Like, they ain't looking at me like usually got down the know my name, run my name, make sure you ain't got no one. Why you?

[Big Facts]

Yeah, for sure.

[Bank]

Running name, see if you got a 1. You lock your ass up like that. How they used to do me like.

[Big Facts]

They see me easy little lick, right? How that feel though? Because you got to understand too. I always give the men that's older than me, especially men from your generation. They flowers on the evolution. Like a lot of times, especially in. In hip hop culture, it's a lot of chasing their youth all the time. They chasing. They trying to stay young and they feel like youth is relevance but evolving as a man. They'll keep you relevant too, because you always are unlocking new possibilities for like a from your background would love to say, like, I wasn't supposed to make it to C25, but it's like, shit, you 45 now what you gonna do? Like, you've been saying that for 20 years. You made it. So like now what but you know what I'm saying? I just want to give your flowers on that, too. Like, even if you are in the beginning of a new career and it's gonna open up new paths for you, you did show niggas it's cool to evolve and become grown and care about your health, care about your family, and, like, you know, and to, like, treasure your blessings. Like, really take care of your. So, bro, like, that love.

[Bank]

I appreciate it.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. Yeah.

[Bank]

Because that hard. It's challenging on the. Go ahead.

[Big Facts]

What's the biggest challenge, though?

[Bank]

The challenge is. Seeing people do and say things that you wouldn't tolerate. You know what I'm saying? Like, but you ain't going in there and say something about me, bro. I bust your. I'm just saying that's how you think back in the day. But now it's like, bro, bank, you're a product of the Internet. Now you got a podcast. You can't be mad at somebody opinion. Like you said back in the day, I didn't set myself up with an opinion. I went on social media. I was in the background. People didn't know that was my comment. I was in the background. Cause I didn't want to put myself in that. And God, once again, God know when you ready for that type. I ain't like doing shows and because I know anything can happen in the crowd or just, you know what I'm saying, just paranoia. But now I can do all these things because I don't feel like I'm projecting the energy to the world.

[Big Facts]

For sure. For sure.

[Bank]

If that makes sense, what I'm saying. Like, when I see somebody, I see a little young with a ski mask on. Whatever. Whatever I'm thinking they feel. Now, you'd be like this on you know what I'm saying back in there. I'd be like, these on get paranoid. Now I'll be looking like they want me. Y' all need to say, what's up, man? Put them in that what's up, og? I fought with you, man. You know what I'm saying? Inviting that energy.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. Even with.

[Bank]

Through your mask, I can see no job. What's up, nephew? I'm speaking first, you know what I'm saying? Turn to a whole nother person. Lift that, man said, what's up, bro? You know what I'm saying? But back in the day, I'm getting a for sad looking at. You know what I'm saying? It just be your mindset, bro.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, it's. It's a defense, though.

[Bank]

Yep.

[Big Facts]

Like, I think, you know, for me, we'll be in certain places, bro. I'll be. I'll be anywhere, bro. I'll be in Arbor Dolo this. And they'd be like, damn, Brian. You know, I'm like, bro, I'll be telling you, like, I'm just like, y' all real. I'll be outside. And I'm not on the. Like, I like to go out too, but I also like not walking around. Awesome. Can't touch me. Can't get close to me. Don't. Don't speak to me like, bro, I'm not Hollywood, bro. I'm not. First of all, I don't want. I don't aspire to be at a level where I can't speak to people.

[Bank]

Nah, that. That get what. When people do that, they wouldn't never nobody. Like, bro, I've been had to speak to people all my life. I've been that nigga in my world. You know what I'm saying? Before, before Internet world, it was street world, word of mouth. So no matter where we go, miles, anything, they blackness everywhere right now. No matter where you go, we've been popular. They say we just went Internet popular. Like, Internet popular. Scared me back in. I remember Facebook. I remember when trouble first got trouble. They first got what? The first social media was MySpace, bro. I used to hate that so much, bro.

[Big Facts]

Like.

[Bank]

Cause I. I felt like the Internet will ruin you because you can go. You can post your thoughts too fast.

[Big Facts]

Right.

[Bank]

You know what I'm saying? Like, and I just watching them taking that little. I like, bro, that.

[Big Facts]

Bro, that.

[Bank]

But then I got on it and started doing the same. I got on because my first social media was Instagram. Like 20, 19, 2018 or 19. Had already been on there like 10 years.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

You know, said 5, 10, however long and crazy. Just seems like, like you said, like, how you was on the truck since I get on my mother, they're talking. People started, man, you need to start a podcast along with screaming. That's where the name is.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. I, you know, energy, though, like, when I first. When I first went legit, I was still paranoid about I had done did. So I'm still thinking, like, well, I can't just go anywhere any type of way. Cause that. That I just did might come back on me because I didn't seen come back in my life.

[Bank]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. So it was a situation where, like, even though I was living right, I'm going everywhere with a gun. And then it's like, I'm also Running into situations where I need to pull this out on you. The or or I feel like I need to. And I had what it was this lake behind my house. And it was like. It was some. In some apartments, like you gotta go through a cut to get to the lake. I went to the lake because like some had happened the day before where this little young dude, he had breaking my car. And like when I'm walking to the car, he in my. And I had just pulled the gun. I was like, you looking for this? He was like, oh. He was like, nah, bro. Look, bro. I was like, bro, why you in my car, bro?

[Bank]

Easy could lit him up.

[Big Facts]

I said, bro, I could kill you, bro. And I'm gonna be in the right. I said, but then we gonna do. You're gonna get in that passenger seat and I'm gonna take your ass to your house. Cause I know you if, if you breaking the car, you ain't got no car. So where you live? And I went and dropped the nigga off with her mama. And she was like, oh my God, thank you so much. And I was like, man. And I had to show her my. Like, I'm on some. I'm still like fresh out the bullshit. So I'm still kind of sleep on some bullshit.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

I like, man, I'm gonna kill your son.

[Bank]

Yeah, you need to change that boy life. You need it. You need it because you need to get somebody else. Yeah.

[Big Facts]

He almost came out of the story.

[Bank]

You better be glad I had a good day today.

[Big Facts]

You know what I'm saying? He almost came to you through word of mouth police. But it was like I was like, damn, bro, I'm changing my life. I'm working, I'm doing all this legit. I'm taking care of my kids. And I keep running into these situations where I feel like I need to use this gun. And so I had walked back to the lake. I threw that in the lake. I ain't had. And I had no gun for like I don't know how many years. Probably like 10 years. To the point where even when I could like legally just register for a firearm, I didn't want that because like Bomb, we had no going on. And it's like I ain't really worried about what the next. Like you, if you come do something to me, you really you lame before you lay me for you just hating. It's like I, I, I don't, I don't focus on like the. That the devil gonna throw at a. I don't focus on It I focus on myself like how I, how I carry myself and the type of I be on ain't the type of that's gonna make a want to do nothing.

[Bank]

To me but the thing. Yeah, I get what you're saying. I wish I could be like that. But I just know these nigga don't forget. Just cause I change don't mean these change. These niggas wants to pay back from way back, man. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

You know I move out like I said on go out unless a paying me or I'm gonna come see some players, you know what I'm saying? Do this. But other than that, man, I'll be out the way, bro. Because you never know what another next man going through. And then that could be the day. And I remember that banking them did do this to me back in the day, man. Ah, hell no.

[Big Facts]

See, I ain't having that one, you.

[Bank]

Know what I'm saying?

[Big Facts]

I ain't working with that one. So I know like, I'll be good.

[Bank]

Yeah, but you get what I'm saying.

[Big Facts]

Like your situation, it is different.

[Bank]

Have to be me, boy jump on my cousin. His son beat his dad up back in the day. His son, y' all would have with a stick. Now Mad still don't even know. He just know he had to pat your dad head up God damn 10 years ago from ass whipping them duct tape y' all to hate us now, you know what I'm saying? Like generation that be real, like I done let it go. But they ain't.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, how many, how many kids you got?

[Bank]

I got three kids. Four. Three and impossible. Nah, I got, I got Kiara. That's my oldest daughter. I got little one got Kashad. I got problem child. I gotta save my son because he's been around me forever. And yeah, I got three grandkids.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, you a granddad too.

[Bank]

Three of them.

[Big Facts]

What's the. So as you transitioning like. Of course, as you change as a man, how you parent change too?

[Bank]

Oh, yeah. High grandparents. This is a lost call for my kid. They already know me. They holding me to the old me.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bank]

Like we grew up together, so I made all the mistakes I could make with them. Yeah, but my grandkids, I'm pawpaw to them, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna be the nicest granddaddy they ever met with my kid. Like me and my kids like brothers and sisters. So.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, that's a beautiful thing, bro.

[Bank]

Yeah, but. But they got. They Got it. Like, even. Even like me and my son, man, Lil, we. We best friends. That's the only person I talk to every day, all day. But he. He reminds me that I did do a good job as a father. Far as him as a man. He grew up to see the things that I was telling him, even though I was telling him in a way, but he couldn't get it because I called all type of and everything, like, ass, stop being a. You crying. But he like, bro, you weren't saying I was a. You telling me I was acting like a. You know what I'm saying? So I take that in for what it is now, you know?

[Big Facts]

And you know the kind of like, with your grandkids, I just can't. They don't. They girls.

[Bank]

Yeah, no. Yeah. That ain't the pro. They girls. They just. Shit, baby, the sky is purple. Whatever they say.

[Big Facts]

That motherfucker purple.

[Bank]

That motherfucker is purple. I see it too, Brylan. I see it too, boss.

[Big Facts]

I think the more I mature, the more I mature through my parenting too, where it's like certain shit I wasn't never really afraid to tell my kids. Like, I apologize. I still apologize to my kids. My older 14, so, like, the way he is, it's like he a full product of every step of the way because I had him at 20, so I'm 35 now. Like, he'll be. He'll be 15 a year. Like, I'm like, damn, bro. It's like this man been with me every step of the way. So he's so much like me that, like, he down here if I'm not there. He down there being the dad. And he like, he was like. Like, he called me. He was like, man, look, I ain't trying to snitch, but you done told him to stay out. Stay out your shit for like three times. And he steady being your. I done told him to stay out your. He ain't listening. So he was like, this what you had me to do. I was like, you did right. But you is a rat, though. But. But he knowing, like, I'm with him. Cause he doing right. Like, and my thing with my kids is like, don't do right when I'm around. Like, do if the same shit you wouldn't do around me. Don't do it when I ain't done. Fact, you know what I'm saying? But that I had to like, taper down from how my folks was raising my. My. My mama cut you with her words. I ain't never Want to cut into nobody like that. Cause that'll live with you.

[Bank]

Nah, that not. But it's just like with my. With my boys. My daughter, we ain't do that. But with my boys, though, I think for me to say something, they had to really do some ass.

[Big Facts]

For sure.

[Bank]

I want you to feel that.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

You know what I'm saying? Even though you ain't gonna feel it in this moment right now, but when you get old, you're gonna be like, damn.

[Big Facts]

A little shame type.

[Bank]

Yeah. You'll be like, damn. Yeah. Like. Cause you gotta think my. My son, third, was 29, gonna be 30 this year. My baby boy, he 24. My daughter, she 33. You know what I'm saying? Damn near your age. So it's like they grown, grown. They know what's happening.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. You know you had your first child like 14.

[Bank]

15.

[Big Facts]

15.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

So it is what it is.

[Big Facts]

So you that kind of like, it tracked, though, with how you kind of coming up like you've been a daddy. You've been a daddy since you was a teenager. Facts, you know what I'm saying? And actively, if you knew. If you've been an active father, that do change.

[Bank]

Oh, yeah. I've been around my kids all their life.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

Even though man and mama used to go through all type of shit, but I never would just be like, fuck my kid. I can't do that.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

Cause I feel like once you separate from the female and the kid, it's gonna be a strain on the kids relationship regardless. This is how I always felt. Could be wrong.

[Big Facts]

But once you break up the unit, it's gonna strain either way.

[Bank]

So you gotta be around my kid.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, for sure.

[Bank]

You know what I'm saying? Hell no. Hell no. Not no. Hell no. Not while they young. You know what I'm saying? And she decided to move on. They old enough that them could tell me, hey, that fault, now that's cool. But other than that, nah.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. What you got? What you working right now, though, before we go, like, you plug whatever you got going on.

[Bank]

Oh, man, this year about to be a crazy year for me, man. I just. Before I got here, I just left a meeting with my new management team. Shouts out to Ebony, man, 11 and co. We just. We're gonna do a joint venture together. And I got the show going crazy. We're about to do winners drop before.

[Big Facts]

The 31st this month.

[Bank]

Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah. Well, 31st we in making man. Y' all pull up on us for the show. I got hiking with Bank Y' all ain't doing that. You talking about you back on your.

[Big Facts]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was gonna ask you about that.

[Bank]

I'm pull up come hiking with bank. What else? Perspective. The big fat network we got. Got Atlanta culture on there, vibing with Vito, Big energy room with baby Jade and Kayla. Who else caresha? I don't want to forget nobody. Yeah. We're just trying to build his network perspective. Oh, the DJ screen show perspective. Big fat. Just trying to build a network, man. Yeah, I need this. It just inspired me walking in this building because I need to give me a building just like this with different rooms and different podcasts.

[Big Facts]

Absolutely.

[Bank]

Yeah, man. That's it, man. Just trying to.

[Big Facts]

Tell me more about the shit so far. We go to, like.

[Bank]

It's like. Well, it's basically like a talent show. You know what I'm saying? We. We. It's free to sign up, but we traveling now. We in making Finn to do Savannah Columbus, and we're gonna go outside of Georgia. It's basically like Apollo, remember?

[Big Facts]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Bank]

Same.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. Y' all be asking.

[Bank]

Throw at them. Yeah.

[Big Facts]

Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Bank]

Yeah, you're gonna love that.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. That we be doing on our show on new music. We got a show. We got a new music Monday show where we just, like, let people send us their tracks, but we'll be like, boy, this sucks.

[Bank]

Oh, that would it get what we gotta connect because you can get some of them folk that's pretty good or pretty bad. Bring it to the show. Let them folks destroy their dreams or help them.

[Big Facts]

Yeah.

[Bank]

One or the other.

[Big Facts]

I ain't gonna lie. Like I. I tell them straight up. But it's time for a trade. Facts. It's time. Ibew, boy, you can sign up. You can be electrician.

[Bank]

Go get my truck.

[Big Facts]

You wasting all this electricity making this. You gonna learn how to be an electrician.

[Bank]

The crazy part about the show, it's gonna be some people that came up there and lost and was terrible and came back in like three, four months later and won.

[Big Facts]

Went crazy.

[Bank]

That crazy, bro.

[Big Facts]

Like, that's a makeup breaking.

[Bank]

Yeah, yeah. She need to make a break.

[Big Facts]

That's what we trying to do. We trying to make a break.

[Bank]

It. Yeah.

[Big Facts]

But, man, appreciate you pulling up.

[Bank]

I appreciate that. We got double bat, man. Middle of the year, man. You gotta come up, man. Either one you want to do, man.

[Big Facts]

I'm. I'm there. Let me know. Hey, I want to say one thing, though, before we go listen to your story.

[Bank]

Right?

[Big Facts]

And how you said that when you first started Duct Tables because was making record labels.

[Bank]

Yeah.

[Big Facts]

And it's crazy that your first song was called Try it out.

[Bank]

Yeah. And it blew up.

[Big Facts]

And you say always fall in your lap. I think that's a testament to your life, son.

[Bank]

Thank you.

[Big Facts]

The song is tried out. And everything you did.

[Bank]

You tried it out. Just was a try. Yeah, real big dog. You just put the chills on my own. You're gonna hear me say that again. I'm gonna have to give you shot, though. Real.

[Big Facts]

That's the main idea. You just tried it out, bro.

[Bank]

That's what everything like, bro. I went. It's crazy. I went hiking.

[Big Facts]

Hiking.

[Bank]

And turned into a business. It's like, God good man. It's like once he choose you, you chose. And you just can't go against every.

[Big Facts]

Avenue you gonna be. It's gonna be a road paid for you already.

[Bank]

Grits and eggs, man. Vegan edition.

[Big Facts]

Yeah. Yeah. We gonna really make the grits out the corn. We ain't adding nothing new to the motherfuckers.

[Bank]

We gonna use the just eggs.

[Big Facts]

We just. Just eggs. You know what I'm saying? This is Ed White Sneaker. He man appreciate you, though.

[Bank]

I appreciate you, bro.

[Big Facts]

We looking forward. So we'll come on now.

[Bank]

We locked in.

[Big Facts]

I think perspective might be the one.

[Bank]

That's what we're doing then.

[Big Facts]

All right. We doing.

[Bank]

I'm gonna get. Courtney was talking to you, right? I'm gonna get her to hit you when we get some dates together. Let's do it.

[Big Facts]

We in there. Well, we don't know what episode this is. Cause, you know, they just be dropping. But then. But it's a hundred something, you know what I mean? I'm your host, Deontay Kyle, who's behind the camera.

[Bank]

Big Ice Club Cat.

[Big Facts]

We here with Big Bang, man. Signing out. Appreciate y', all, man.

[Bank]

Big grits.

[Big Facts]

Big grits. The yellow one.

[Bank]

The yellow one. I just want to rap.

[Big Facts]

I just want to rap. Yeah.

[Bank]

Face say, without the proper labor, faith don't stand a chance. I put my faith in faith and stand on fertile land I planted seeds that'll indeed turn into trees before rest in peace, tease get printed to me.

[Big Facts]

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