Episode 132 - Junk in the Trunk

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast — Episode 132: "Junk in the Trunk"

Host: Deante’ Kyle
Co-hosts: Big Cat, Big Ice Cup
Date: March 24, 2026

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Episode Overview

In Episode 132, "Junk in the Trunk," Deante’ Kyle and his co-hosts deliver a characteristically raw and unfiltered discussion across pop culture, current events, community accountability, recent internet controversies, and listener advice. The episode winds through topics like Jay-Z’s legacy, industry backlash against rapper LaRussell, dynamics of holding community members to account, the nuances of internet narratives vs real-life community, and closes with heartfelt, gritty listener calls for advice and solidarity. The tone is candid, sometimes hilarious, and often deeply grounded in Black cultural experience.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tour Announcements & Merch (03:17–07:00)

• The crew celebrates sold-out shows in Raleigh and Charlotte and runs through upcoming dates (Stardome in Birmingham, April 1st; Comedy Zone in Jacksonville, April 7th; Zanies, Nashville, April 28th).
• Patreon community is plugged heavily ($8/month for exclusive content & early access to merch like podcast hats and collector vinyls):
  Deante’ Kyle: “$8, that’s a chicken cantina quesadilla from Taco Bell.” (05:30)

2. Reflections on Interviews & Podcast Appearances (07:00–11:52)

• Big energy recounting recent big interviews: the 2 Chainz interview ("That was an experience, man. That's gonna open up a lot of doors for me..." — 07:21).
• Shoutouts to other podcasts like "My Mama Told Me" and "Poor Minds"; joyful camaraderie about Black podcaster networks.

3. Jay-Z, Legacy, and the "Clout Coin" (12:04–16:16)

• Jay-Z’s 25th/30th-anniversary concerts in Yankee Stadium spark jokes about “cashing in clout coins” for tickets. The hosts riff on nostalgia, reverence for Jay, and possibilities of a new album.
  • Big Cat: “If I ever had to clash the clout coin in for anything, it's this.” (13:40)
  • Big Ice Cup: “That might be a record breaking [show].” (16:52)
• Banter about the iconic status of these shows and how the energy in New York will be “sideways” (16:24).

4. LaRussell, ROC Nation, and Backlash (17:52–28:05)

• In-depth commentary on artist LaRussell facing backlash for joining ROC Nation and his poorly received “Heaven Sent” track/statement (suggesting that even evil figures are heaven-sent).
  • Deante’ Kyle: “We have to remember that we're dealing with a human being…” (18:27)
  • Discusses cancel culture, the pain of large-scale internet condemnation, and how it's hard to admit fault after a long winning streak.
  • Big Cat: “You cannot be misunderstood because now you're talking about sex trafficking and genocide, racism, bigotry... No, brother, that's demonic. That's the opposite of heaven.” (25:08)
  • Ends with a call for allowing public figures space for accountability and growth—mistakes should not instantly mean banishment.

5. Accountability Within and Between Communities (28:05–39:22)

• Shift into a deep-dive on how Black communities hold themselves accountable publicly, compared to others—critiquing the façade of perfection in “whiteness,” and the reluctance of other minority groups to air internal issues out loud.
  • Deante’ Kyle: “Nobody is louder about the love that we have for one another. Nobody's gonna celebrate us louder.” (31:10)
  • Explores anti-Blackness across communities, and the historical roots of narrative control—media, propaganda, and white supremacy.
• Calls out hypocrisy and selective moral judgment in U.S. culture (e.g., Brett Favre’s welfare scandal vs. Michael Vick, the Patriots' cheating).
  • Deante’ Kyle: “Black people, one thing we don’t do publicly is lie about who we are... And this is why accountability in our community will always be top tier.” (37:29)

6. Systemic Harm, ICE, and Governmental Violence (41:53–46:00)

• Extended critique of U.S. immigration enforcement and ICE:
  • Details abuses by agents, government complicity, and how social media has sanitized discussion.
  • Deante’ Kyle: “ICE needs to be abolished. ICE needs to be defunded. These kids are going to need mental and physical health care and they need to be reunited with their families. Period point blank.” (45:16)

7. Community, Resignation from “the Corporation,” and Turning Inward (49:36–53:37)

• Rousing call for Black people to prioritize community and solidarity over chasing status, money, or validation from America’s oppressive systems.
  • Deante’ Kyle: “The only thing we have right now more than ever is each other. And putting individuality over community is no longer acceptable.” (51:47)
• Teases bringing the “good riddance from the corporation” message to the upcoming tour.

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Notable Listener Calls & Advice Segments

1. White Philly Fan on Family Survival and Harassment (54:03–57:02)

• Josh, a white listener, shares about his wife’s survival from trafficking, ongoing harassment in Philly, and expresses solidarity:
  • Josh: “There’s white people that are fucked up and you know, guillotine, bro. These deserve the guillotine... Much love from Philadelphia.” (55:27)

2. Religious Psychosis & Black Family Dynamics (59:01–60:56)

• Longtime listener vents about the challenge of intergenerational religious rigidity and not feeling able to have secular, honest conversations with his mother.
  • Caller: “I was telling her I'm getting into yoga… yoga, the devil. She might as well be Bobby Boucher. Mama, I'm the water boy out this bitch.” (59:47)

3. Trans Black Listener Gives Thanks & Endorsement (61:23–63:26)

• Profound message from a trans, neurodivergent Black listener (“Sunday”), who endorses Deante’ and the show for providing hope while she was living in her car.
  • Sunday: “That $8, my bottom dollar, will go to Deontay Kyle every time, because he’s speaking the truth and he’s saying that with his chest…” (62:40)
  • Hosts: Deep gratitude, “That really just powered me up.” (63:31)

4. Domestic Violence in WLW Relationships (64:20–66:12)

• A woman shares her realization that she is gay and recounts abuse in her first woman-to-woman relationship, urging others not to ignore domestic violence in same-sex relationships:
  • Caller: “If they'll push you, they'll slap you. If they'll slap you, they'll punch you… Glad I made it out safe. Leave the first time.” (65:30)
  • Deante’ Kyle: “Should nobody be putting them hands on you. Hands, feet, nothing. Nothing.” (65:41)

5. Mutual Aid: Car for a Listener in Need (66:12–71:51)

• A cousin from New Orleans details struggles with homelessness, getting a job, and being unable to buy a car due to poor credit.
• Co-hosts plan to source a reliable car via their community and possibly deliver it in person, exemplifying podcast community support:
  • Deante’ Kyle: “If you sell cars and they're legit, reach out to me, let me know how much it is. Me & Big Cat will put something together… we’ll get you a car.” (69:15)
  • Big Cat: “You pulled yourself up out the trenches, man.” (70:52)

6. Career/Moving Advice: Choosing Community over Struggle (72:01–79:16)

• A soon-to-be dad from Houston, facing job loss and a new baby, debates whether to move in rent-free with family in South Carolina and ponder starting a junk removal business.
  • Deante’ Kyle: “Go where the support is… Your family loves you. This America, this corporation don’t love you. It ain’t no job that’s gonna love you.” (74:04; 75:23)
  • Light-hearted discussion about South Carolina being full of “junk,” but with real encouragement to pursue entrepreneurship and not to let pride block accepting support.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Jay-Z's legendary status:
  “That I might wear a Yankee sombrero out that… It’s gonna be a birthday present for your boy.” — Big Cat (13:58)
• On community accountability:
  “Nobody is going to be louder about pointing out things when we fall short than our community.” — Deante’ Kyle (30:06)
• On LaRussell’s misstep:
  “We cannot allot divinity or validity to evil people… No, brother, that’s demonic. That’s the opposite of heaven.” — Big Cat (25:08)
• On why other communities “seem” less flawed:
  “They only show their highlights in order to be incomparable to the Black community… The way they uphold whiteness is to make it seem to be sought after.” — Deante’ Kyle (33:30, 34:16)
• On what really matters:
  “Money ain’t gonna save you. The status ain’t gonna save you. The class ain’t gonna save you. The bags ain’t gonna save you. The aesthetics won’t save you. The only thing we have… is each other.” — Deante’ Kyle (51:47)
• Listener Sunday’s support:
  “That $8, my bottom dollar, will go to Deontay Kyle every time because he's speaking the truth and he's saying that with his chest.” — Sunday (62:40)

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• Tour & Patreon Information: 03:17–07:00
• Podcast/Interview Reflections: 07:00–11:52
• Jay-Z & the Clout Coin: 12:04–16:16
• LaRussell & Artist Backlash: 17:52–28:05
• Community Accountability Discourse: 28:05–39:22
• Critique of U.S. Institutions (ICE etc.): 41:53–46:00
• Community over Individualism: 49:36–53:37
• Listener Calls & Advice: 54:03–79:16
  • Josh (Philly): 54:03
  • Religious Family Dynamics: 59:01
  • Trans Listener Sunday: 61:23
  • WLW Domestic Violence: 64:20
  • Car Mutual Aid: 66:12
  • Moving Advice: 72:01

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Concluding Poetic Moment (80:15+)

The episode wraps with a poetic monologue reflecting on lessons from elders, faith, and the lifelong journey to balance learning and action.

“Wisdom is the application of knowledge. I was picking up what he was putting down. Just wasn’t applying it. … Maybe I was too busy trying to find the balance between religion and science.” (80:15)

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Summary Takeaways

• Accountability and community love are fundamental, even when it’s messy or uncomfortable.
• Internet controversies are dissected with both empathy and tough love, with hosts urging space for public figures to learn and grow.
• The show is a genuine resource and safe space for a diverse listenership—people in struggle, recovery, and transition reach out for advice and find practical support.
• Solidarity over status: The hosts continually circle back to the message that what matters most is turning inward to each other, not chasing validation or status from broader (often hostile) society.

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Final Word:
Deante’ Kyle and crew deliver another episode full of wit, sharp cultural criticism, and tangible community-building—always with that signature blend of humor, heart, and realness.

Transcript

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[Audience Member/Interjection]

Yeah.

[Poet/Rapper]

Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty south with a dirty mouth might need orbit miss things things on me like a nigga Norbit had to refus cause my no rest fusion she gorgeous as I d my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead tell them we going to get this money to my pockets morbid remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't got to like a regardless baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me we like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee Flick your cigarette and let a vent yeah,

[Deontay Kyle]

we back

[Big Cat]

oh we back Grits and

[Deontay Kyle]

eggs podcast episode 132. I'm your host, Deontay Kyle. But who's behind the camera?

[Big Ice Cup]

The coolest co host in the world. Big DJ Ice Cupcake.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The dj. My dj.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Big ice cup.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, you know what I'm saying? As you are watching this, we would have been done shut it down in Raleigh.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Sold out show Charlotte is sold out.

[Big Cat]

Yay.

[Deontay Kyle]

We got a couple more days to go, you know what I'm saying? Hopefully, hopefully we can get those sold out too. April 1st. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Stardome, Birmingham, Alabama.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

There's no doubt.

[Big Cat]

There's no doubt. No doubt. We're gonna big cat it out.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

No doubt.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Stardome, Birmingham, Alabama. April 1.

[Deontay Kyle]

Comedy Zone. April. April 7, Jacksonville, Florida, which is almost sold out.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Zany's Comedy Club, Nashville, Tennessee, also almost sold out. So get your tickets. April 28th, Nashville, Tennessee.

[Big Cat]

Start on. I don't know what's up with you, man?

[Deontay Kyle]

You ain't rocking with us. Y' all don't know.

[Big Ice Cup]

They go pull up to the doors.

[Deontay Kyle]

They don't know we coming, man.

[Big Ice Cup]

They know we come.

[Deontay Kyle]

We gotta figure it out, man.

[Big Ice Cup]

They know we coming.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna go to. I'm go Birmingham run for mayor real quick.

[Big Cat]

And then as soon as we packed the start now I'm like, thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Birmingham.

[Big Ice Cup]

Like Jackson, though.

[Deontay Kyle]

A lot of people came.

[Big Ice Cup]

Jackson came to the door.

[Deontay Kyle]

They came to the door.

[Big Cat]

They came to the door. Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, that. We sold it out there and they pulled us.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Deontay Kyle]

A lot of standing room. Yeah, that was a good show.

[Caller/Listener]

It was.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. First show.

[Big Ice Cup]

Now look at us on tour.

[Deontay Kyle]

On tour. Gonna go pack them bags tonight, you know what I'm saying? We're recording this a day early so we could be safe on that road.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

657234.

[Deontay Kyle]

Eggs at 657-234-3447. If you want to leave a voicemail

[Big Cat]

also, you know what I'm saying? If you ever want to talk to

[Deontay Kyle]

us, you can call that number, but you got to be a part of the Patreon. $8 ain't nothing but $8, man. How much is that? Patreon Big Cat.

[Audience Member/Interjection]

$8.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay, it's eight. Eight motherfucking dollars, man. That's a chicken cantina quesadilla from Taco Bell.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

Imagine, you know that price.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's my little go to.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's your go to for Taco bell.

[Big Cat]

All right. 12:30 at night.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what you need.

[Deontay Kyle]

A little healthy little cantina, you know, greasy.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can be.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, Taco. Yeah, Throw it all off. All right. We gotta keep it balanced.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? We gotta keep it balanced. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's the grizzly ass podcast on Patreon. Follow us now on Patreon.

[Big Cat]

Come join the community.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, we doing it big over there. We got the grits and eggs hats coming. They are available now on the Patreon. But if you ain't a cousin.

[Big Ice Cup]

Hey, you missed out.

[Deontay Kyle]

You missed out. We also got them the episode 52 vinyls that are. That are completed. Hey, they'll be good to go in about 30 days. We'll release them to the public. But again, if you're a cousin, you get first dibs.

[Big Cat]

$8. It's only 100 copies.

[Deontay Kyle]

These are collector's items.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

So they are gonna go fast.

[Big Cat]

So I would suggest if you want

[Deontay Kyle]

first dibs, go ahead and spend that eight.

[Big Cat]

Eight dollars.

[Deontay Kyle]

You want to be great?

[Big Ice Cup]

Spend the date.

[Deontay Kyle]

Spend that eight. Deontayante Kyle.com for all booking and inquiries. Deontaykow.com for everything you want. You. You want to buy tickets to the tour? Deontaycow.com you want some merch? Deontay kyle.com you want to see the latest episode? Deontaycow.God.com Speaking of latest episode, 2 Chain's interview just dropped.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, we need to go run

[Big Cat]

it up over there.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I'm in my Barbara Walter. Now you David Letterman back. I was really there.

[Big Cat]

I was in my Montel Jones.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, There you go.

[Big Cat]

That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was a good show. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Good quality show, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. It was amazing. It was shot well. The audio was perfect.

[Big Cat]

It.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was an experience, man. But that's not, you know, that's gonna open your boy up. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, yo.

[Big Ice Cup]

I mean, God damn, this is gonna

[Deontay Kyle]

open up a lot of opportunities.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah. Open up a lot of doors for me is what I'm saying.

[Big Cat]

Shit. You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

All right.

[Big Cat]

It's gonna open up a lot of

[Deontay Kyle]

doors for your book.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying to.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, Katt Williams is putting out a book in October. Oh, hey, you know, hopefully.

[Big Cat]

Hey, you know, hopefully we have to find somebody on the team. But I do good book talk.

[Deontay Kyle]

Do good book talk.

[Big Cat]

I do good book talk. I do great album talk.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And.

[Big Cat]

And you know what I'm saying. Chance the Rapper is the proof of that. TI Is the proof of that.

[Big Ice Cup]

They are.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? Now we trying to get into that film talk. I'm trying to go holla at Ryan Cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Get cool.

[Big Ice Cup]

Get cool on it.

[Big Cat]

I'm trying to holl at coug. I'm trying to get involved with that.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get cool.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I watched sinners last night.

[Deontay Kyle]

Did you?

[Big Cat]

It still holds up. Somebody take me. It holds up, man. It holds up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Adviceeontayky.com for all your advice submissions. We got a couple advice submissions we're gonna run today. And if you have any issues at all, [e-mail] Suki will help you out with whatever you need.

[Big Cat]

Follow me and big cat.

[Deontay Kyle]

I am Deontay Kyle on all platforms that he is Big Ice Cupcat on all platforms. Follow us on YouTube. Subscribe to the YouTube Now. As you're watching it, just go ahead and hit the subscribe. Turn the notification bell on.

[Big Cat]

Leave the chat.

[Deontay Kyle]

Go like the video. Go hype the video. Yeah, Go share the video.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Leave a comment. Show us some love. That's all.

[Big Cat]

That's all I got.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, it's all my up top plugs. What you got, big Cat?

[Big Ice Cup]

Hey, man, you know, we go have the crowd rocking tomorrow, baby. You Know we're gonna do our thing, come out there and hype you up, get you ready, do the knowledge, you

[Big Cat]

know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

We'll get a little ignorant before we do the knowledge, baby.

[Big Cat]

We got the homie Reg Thomas pulling up.

[Co-host/Guest]

Hey.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, we got registering.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's gonna be a good one.

[Big Ice Cup]

It's gonna be a good night, sir.

[Big Cat]

Hey, man, listen, these shows, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If you are.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm not saying this to plug the Patreon again.

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We.

[Deontay Kyle]

We already did that. But if you are a Patreon member, some of these pop ups we're gonna do, that's gonna be exclusive to y'.

[Big Cat]

All.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is gonna have a good time.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Little coffee talk.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Little lunch dates.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Lunch dates, coffee talk.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

What more could you ask for, you know? So all I'm gonna do is drop

[Big Ice Cup]

the low, might get some ice cream. You never know.

[Big Cat]

Might go for a long walk.

[Poet/Rapper]

Hey, hey, now.

[Big Cat]

Hey, man, you just gotta pull up, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

We got a couple special guests. Special guests in Charlotte, North Carolina. Special guests in Nashville, Tennessee. You know, custom. You know, the, the, the, the. The homie HR Clothiers, Hoover Renee. Okay. Out of Birmingham. Yeah, he gonna get us fitted for the Birmingham show.

[Big Cat]

Hey, you know what I'm saying? We doing supporting black businesses.

[Big Ice Cup]

Support the black businesses as a black business.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

What more could you ask for?

[Big Cat]

Can't ask for that note.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, that's it, baby.

[Big Ice Cup]

I got.

[Big Cat]

Damn, that's a win.

[Audience Member/Interjection]

Win.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

So this week I. I've had the pleasure. Now, normally, you know, I just do a brief little looksy at. AT podcast that I have appeared on.

[Big Ice Cup]

Okay?

[Deontay Kyle]

But then my mama told me podcast that.

[Big Ice Cup]

Funny as hell on that. Going stupid, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was hilarious.

[Big Ice Cup]

It was funny.

[Big Cat]

That was one of the funnest podcasts we've done so far.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because, you know, it wasn't about.

[Big Cat]

We wasn't over there doing the knowledge at all. At all.

[Deontay Kyle]

At all.

[Big Ice Cup]

I mean, we did some knowledge, but we undid it.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

As soon as the knowledge got done, we undid.

[Co-host/Guest]

We undid the knowledge.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to David and Lakeston. Shout out to the My Mama Told Me podcast. You know what I'm saying? Them guys over there, they doing great work. They are hilarious comedians.

[Big Ice Cup]

They are.

[Deontay Kyle]

They're both writers, they're both, you know, tenured in this industry where, you know, they've worked and been a part of a lot of shows that you have seen and Loved. So shout out to them, brothers. I also appeared on the Poor Minds podcast. Lex. Andrea.

[Big Cat]

Oh, oh, big old Lex P. Hey, Lex P. You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, don't they fun, bro?

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, they look fun.

[Big Cat]

That was a good time, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was a great time. Where was you at?

[Big Ice Cup]

I think I missed the call.

[Deontay Kyle]

You did?

[Big Ice Cup]

I missed the call?

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, I missed the call.

[Big Cat]

I was overslept.

[Big Ice Cup]

Overslept. I was like, you know What?

[Caller/Listener]

Just.

[Big Ice Cup]

Just FaceTime.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I did FaceTime twice, so I need it.

[Deontay Kyle]

But yeah, man, that was a great conversation as well, man. Shout out to the girls over there at Poor Minds. Lex P. Andrea, Nicole. Yeah, all right, man.

[Big Cat]

You know, the millennial.

[Deontay Kyle]

The Millennial.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

The Millennials and the Gen Xers are having quite a time this week. Okay, what's going on, Jigga?

[Big Cat]

What's my name, Jigger?

[Big Ice Cup]

Who I'm rolling with, huh?

[Big Cat]

My n.

[Deontay Kyle]

Better get it right? Better get it. Who?

[Big Cat]

Jay Z.

[Big Ice Cup]

60 at 60.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's 60, I think J.

[Big Ice Cup]

60, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

Damn, man.

[Big Ice Cup]

Jay Ho. 60, bro. Look at this up real quick.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think whole 60, I think hold. Now he knocking on 60, but he will be headlining the Roots picnic in Philadelphia. He also is doing two shows back to back in Yankee stadium for the 25th anniversary of the blueprint and the 30th anniversary of reasonable doubt. So it'll be July 10th and July 11th.

[Big Cat]

I. I'm not gonna lie.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

New York City, listen to me right now. If I ever had to cash in the clout coin. Oh, boy.

[Big Cat]

Oh. Oh, my. Oh, fucking boy, am I clashing in my clout coins. I don't never use the clout coins, but we. We gonna bring them out.

[Deontay Kyle]

We need.

[Big Cat]

It's hard to yell when the bat browses in your mouth. We gonna bring them clout coins.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

Go use that clout.

[Big Cat]

Niggas always talking about cryptocurrency. You never heard of the clout coin?

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, yeah, the clout coin.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

You got some.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Get you a clout coin. My. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

Get you a Cl.

[Caller Josh]

Coin.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, man, we going to cash them hoes in.

[Big Ice Cup]

We need to.

[Big Cat]

Got to. I don't give a. Yeah. If I ever had to clash the clout coin in for anything, it's this.

[Big Ice Cup]

It's this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I'll even voicemail to a. Hey, call me back.

[Big Ice Cup]

I need that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, look, both.

[Big Ice Cup]

Both. Both shows.

[Big Cat]

I need to be there both nights.

[Big Ice Cup]

Both nights.

[Big Cat]

Listen, my.

[Deontay Kyle]

That.

[Big Cat]

That I might wear a Yankee sombrero out that. Matter of fact, it's gonna be, like, right after my birthday, too.

[Big Ice Cup]

It is.

[Big Cat]

So that's gonna be a birthday present for your boy. It is.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? That.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, hey. We don't need a new album.

[Big Cat]

That's what we need.

[Big Ice Cup]

This is what we need.

[Big Cat]

Cause I couldn't make it to the

[Deontay Kyle]

Blackout tour, you know what I'm saying?

[Co-host/Guest]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I ain't get to see Ock hit a freestyle with him. I ain't get to see that.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

This is what we need right here, though.

[Big Cat]

This the one.

[Big Ice Cup]

But the album is coming.

[Big Cat]

You think so?

[Big Ice Cup]

I believe so. I believe the album's coming.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know.

[Big Ice Cup]

I think the last one is coming

[Deontay Kyle]

The. You know, the. The.

[Liquid IV Advertiser]

The.

[Deontay Kyle]

The finito. Yeah, but then he will have to tour again.

[Big Ice Cup]

He doesn't have to tour again.

[Deontay Kyle]

He don't have to. I don't even think that he tour for 444.

[Big Cat]

Yes, he did.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, I went to that.

[Big Cat]

I don't think there's a.

[Deontay Kyle]

There's a rapper out there that's gonna put out an album in that tour.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's true.

[Deontay Kyle]

He might do, like, a little select. I ain't gonna hold you, though. Shadow Finn is still at that Yankee Stadium. Twice. Twice.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's money. Oh, that's money.

[Big Cat]

That's big money.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's big money.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, he put two little dots back above his name. Above his name. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

He had to change his name. Cause y' all kept fucking with him this year. So you know what? Let me rebrand.

[Big Cat]

I might pull up. I might pull up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Night one, full suit, just a suit, like a mobster.

[Big Cat]

I might pull out reasonable doubt,

[Caller/Listener]

you

[Big Cat]

know what I'm saying? Then night two.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Go Yankee.

[Big Cat]

Fit it. You know what I'm saying? It's gonna be hot. No, I'm not wearing a suit.

[Big Ice Cup]

A suit in the Bronx?

[Depop Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. I'm not wearing a suit to the Bronx Stadium.

[Big Ice Cup]

I'm not doing it.

[Co-host/Guest]

Damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm not doing it.

[Big Cat]

It's gonna be ignorant.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, it's gonna be ignorant. It's gonna be ignorant.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? But the clout coin will have me not in the stands, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

I was clashing the clout coin. Hey, listen, listen.

[Big Ice Cup]

The clout coin. Can it get Us backstage.

[Deontay Kyle]

I doubt it.

[Big Cat]

Listen.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, I.

[Big Cat]

Coin is a side stage.

[Big Ice Cup]

Side stage.

[Big Cat]

I'm cool with that. It's a great view. Yeah, Great view. Saying that's what our cl.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. Not backstage yet. I don't know. We backstage.

[Big Ice Cup]

We ain't backstage.

[Deontay Kyle]

Clock coin yet.

[Big Cat]

All right, so we.

[Deontay Kyle]

We ain't.

[Big Ice Cup]

We ain't.

[Deontay Kyle]

Platinum, gold.

[Big Cat]

This is the gold. Yo, we in the building.

[Big Ice Cup]

We the building, though. Yeah, we the building.

[Big Cat]

That's what you need.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's what you need.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's going to be a.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's going to be a hot July night, man.

[Big Ice Cup]

What?

[Big Cat]

New York City.

[Deontay Kyle]

New York City going to be sideways.

[Big Ice Cup]

Oh, my God.

[Deontay Kyle]

I might run out on the field.

[Big Ice Cup]

Got to go pick this up from Central booking.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, I'm not running. I'm too old for this, man.

[Big Cat]

I ain't getting away from. I smoke cigarettes.

[Big Ice Cup]

Beat your ass.

[Big Cat]

Beat the. Out of me. You know what I mean? Put that on a jumbotron.

[Big Ice Cup]

Well, it's gonna be seats on the floor. On the. It's gonna be seats out there.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, that's. That's gonna be a great show.

[Big Ice Cup]

That might be a record breaking.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Has anybody ever.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, I'm pretty sure other artists have sold out. Yankees, Yankee Stadium.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, but it's gonna. Two nights.

[Deontay Kyle]

The Bronx, man.

[Big Cat]

Bronx.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

The MTA gonna be sideways.

[Big Ice Cup]

MTA not even working. Yeah, it's just the train. The bus is out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, that's out. You might have to catch a helicopter.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes. I ain't gonna lie, though.

[Big Ice Cup]

Now. Now we're getting Harlem. We can go across the bridge. It's nothing.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's nothing.

[Big Ice Cup]

It's nothing. It's right there. Yeah, it's right there.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I say we leave, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

A few hours early. Just go hang out in the Bronx for a little bit. What the fuck?

[Big Cat]

Are we hanging out in the Bronx? I think I got some people over there. I got some people over there.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, but the Bronx, you just hang out in the.

[Deontay Kyle]

I called Merrill.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna call Merrill.

[Deontay Kyle]

I gotta call Merrill.

[Big Cat]

Merrill. Look, man, we in the Bronx. Tell us where we good at, you'll

[Big Ice Cup]

just go hang out at the Box.

[Deontay Kyle]

Speaking of Jay Z segue into ROC Nation, okay. Roc Nation just signed the Russell. A lot of people were not pleased with LaRussell signing with Roc Nation due to his strong stance as an independent artist. We supported his decision in that. Yeah, but the wrestler has recently deactivated all his social media after the Heaven Sent backlash.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Even you.

[Big Ice Cup]

Even you,

[Deontay Kyle]

baby. It's not easy to deal with this, bro. As a person who has been thoroughly slandered across the Internet several times, you got to remember that these people are human. Like, LaRussell is a human. I have been. I mean, I've been called everything but a child of God.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's true.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

But, you know,

[Deontay Kyle]

it's par for the course. It's par for the course.

[Big Cat]

But. But we have to remember that we're

[Deontay Kyle]

dealing with a human being. So I don't like this notion that, like, oh, you, you, you duck and smoke or whatever. Like, bruh. It is not natural for hundreds of thousands. Let's not say hundreds, but 10. Maybe at least tens. Let's say tens of thousands of people to be like, calling you out your name and slandering you and making videos. At least thousands of people making videos about you for essentially, you know, not just a bad take. His worst take today. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Probably the worst take of the last month.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I mean?

[Big Ice Cup]

I say so.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is the worst take of the quarter for sure.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? But this first quarter of 2026.

[Deontay Kyle]

Worst take of 2026 so far.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But I will say this.

[Deontay Kyle]

When things have been going right for you so long, it may be hard to admit when you're wrong, which is why he doubled down and quadrupled down. And some of the language of. This is my last time addressing. This will come off as a little like, you know, pretentious, little egoic. Yeah. I mean, yeah, but he.

[Big Cat]

But. But he's been nothing but net.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's hard, you know what I'm saying? When you went. Look. When you.

[Big Cat]

Nothing but net and it's just a

[Deontay Kyle]

win, you go on a winning streak.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then you get blown out. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's tough loss.

[Big Cat]

Like, none of your shots going. You've been on a hot street. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

None of your shots going on.

[Big Ice Cup]

Everybody got a bad night.

[Deontay Kyle]

Even you, you. When things have been going right for so long, it's very hard to admit when you're wrong. So first. The first wrong is not listening to the engineer. You gotta listen to your team.

[Big Cat]

This is what they. On your team for. You know what I mean?

[Deontay Kyle]

Big Cat has called off a couple of shows. I would say it's been a while since it's happened. Yeah, it's been a while.

[Big Ice Cup]

It's been a Minute.

[Deontay Kyle]

But, you know, early on, early them

[Big Cat]

days when we was just kind of figuring out we was having fun, wasn't

[Deontay Kyle]

really making no money, and sometimes it was about pulling up to be consistent.

[Big Cat]

Man, things would go a little lefty.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And Big had to be like, hey, shut it down.

[Deontay Kyle]

All this.

[Big Cat]

Shut this down.

[Deontay Kyle]

We not doing this. This ain't the brand. So, you know, you gotta listen to your team. You employ these people for a reason. Engineers are very important to the production of the music. Also, an engineer has to hear it over and over and over and over again while they're mixing it, while they're mastering it. And if anytime an engineer is listening to something over and over again and he comes to, you know, the realization that maybe this shouldn't go out, I think it's best that we listen to our engineer. But yet, when things have been going right for so long, it's very hard for you to admit that you may have missed the mark. The second point being that we cannot

[Big Cat]

allot divinity or validity to evil people. With this take, I'll say this.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm smart enough to understand what he

[Liquid IV Advertiser]

was trying to say.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, yeah, I get what he was trying to say.

[Deontay Kyle]

He did not articulate it well at all. Heaven sent was not the right word.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was not the right context to, you know, songs. Songs are, you know, very short structures of media that require a great usage of words in order to carry a point across in such a short amount of time. It's not a book, it's not a zine, it's not a podcast where you can explain thoroughly every point and provide context. You have to say everything the right way in such a short amount of time where people have to understand the context, people have to understand the concept. People need to understand your perspective. People need to be very clear on what you're trying to say.

[Big Cat]

Especially if you're going to say Adolph to Trump, too.

[Big Ice Cup]

Drop Adolph in there.

[Big Cat]

You know, Epstein, too. When you gonna start dropping these names? I need to be very, very clear on what you say, because we're also

[Deontay Kyle]

seeing heaven sent, which is a divine thing, and we can allot divinity to evil people.

[Big Cat]

Listen, I don't want nothing to do.

[Deontay Kyle]

I said this last week, and I'll say this again, if that's what your God allows, I'm cool on your God, not my God. Even you.

[Liquid IV Advertiser]

So

[Big Cat]

this is the thing where we

[Deontay Kyle]

clearly missed the mark on our messaging. And if you want to. If you want to take stances like this that are going to be a little controversial, but also carry some, you know, higher vibrational meaning. You have to articulate it perfectly.

[Big Cat]

You can't. This is not the type of space

[Deontay Kyle]

where you can leave room for guessing

[Caller/Listener]

or

[Deontay Kyle]

misconstruing your words.

[Big Cat]

This is not a space where you

[Deontay Kyle]

can have anybody misunderstand what you're saying because it's a very sensitive subject. Because the people you named, one, have been involved in a historical genocide, built societies on hate, still persist in their hate to this day, being Adolf Hitler. And two,

[Big Cat]

have, have run back to,

[Deontay Kyle]

back to back campaigns on racism, bigotry, xenophobia, homophobia, all the phobias, all the obious, all the everything, you know what I'm saying? Patriarchy, misogyny, all the knees being Trump. And then three, a infamous child sex trafficker, black male operator spy for the Mossad, Israeli intelligence being Epstein. These people are the, the, these people are evil in its ethos, like in everything. When you think evil, you think these three.

[Big Cat]

You cannot be misunderstood because now you're

[Deontay Kyle]

talking about sex trafficking and genocide, racism, bigotry, all these different things are heaven sent. No, brother, that's demonic. That's the month. That's the opposite of heaven. That's hell, sin. You know what I mean? If we, if we're gonna believe in that sort of thing now, he is beloved by his community and the social media community at large.

[Big Cat]

He's beloved by us over here.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, we love him for his hustle, we love him for his stance on independence, we love him for his, his pushback on the industry and just being all around good natured, you know, he gives back to the community. He provides a safe space for kids and adults alike. Yes, he puts on for the legends of hip hop. Yes, he, he provides a space for people to come and fellowship one another in a community aspect. And I would think that because of his character up until this point, we would say that this mistake was made in good faith. I would say so the doubling and tripling down does leave a bad taste in people's mouth. Him signing the ROC Nation did make a lot of people turn their nose up to him.

[Big Cat]

But we have to soon to assume. We have to assume

[Deontay Kyle]

based on his character thus far that this take was made in good faith and he just missed a mark.

[Big Cat]

And unfortunately, at times like these, the people who never supported him or like

[Deontay Kyle]

him will have the loudest voices.

[Big Cat]

So I think that there also needs

[Deontay Kyle]

to be a conversation around him being able to redeem himself because like shot of been money. He meant money, bro. And we can't just Throw people away like this. We have to allot some room for him to explain himself or to own up to his shortcomings.

[Big Cat]

I'm not as much as I would have a criticism for it because it

[Deontay Kyle]

is very necessary to criticize things at this juncture. When the names he named are as extreme as he named. And you know,

[Big Cat]

outside of even just

[Deontay Kyle]

us doing an interview with him and having, you know, ongoing relationship with him, that doesn't change my stance on people at all. If, if I'm going to say something, I'm going to say something and I say something to both private and public,

[Big Cat]

that, that's what I do.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's what I've been doing. I'm not switching up what I do. I, I, I've gotten a lot of love from people that I've supported and criticized. You know, that's my, this is what I do.

[Big Cat]

I'm not above critique either.

[Deontay Kyle]

I've been criticized heavily. But I say all that to say.

[Big Cat]

I say all that to say that

[Deontay Kyle]

we can't just throw people in our communities away. If he comes out from his break and he is accountable for his actions and he owns up to missing the mark on his statement, I think that he deserves another chance. I don't think that this is necessarily anything to do with the ROC Nation signing. I'm not conspiracy theoried out like that. I don't think that he said that because, you know, he signed Rock Nation. Now you got to humiliate himself or whatever. But you know, God damn timing is crazy because he said the about Wayne and people didn't like that. Then he signed the ROC Nation and people didn't like that. Now he's saying this and just. People don't like it, man. You know, sometimes we're gonna go through some cold spots. Maybe it's time for a break. You know, he posted his schedule and goddamn, that man's working. He's working, he's working. He may be overworking, he may be experiencing burnout and it may just be time for him to take a break. But you know, we still love and support LaRussell over here. Horrible take, but I believe, you know, his intention was in good faith. And we'll keep moving from there, but I want to talk about accountability in our community real quick. We'll be. I just need to take a quick break. The merch outside. Oh, so okay, we back. All right, man. Yeah, we still ain't get the Merchant, but he on the way. Let's talk about accountability in our community because here's the Thing about it. Nobody is louder on either side than we are about ourselves. Nobody is going to be louder about our flaws. No. Is going. Nobody's going to be louder about calling ourselves out. Nobody is going to be louder about pointing out things when we fall short than our community.

[Big Cat]

So I think oftentimes the mentality is

[Deontay Kyle]

that we're always out to tear each other down, but the reality is we are the only ones who hold each other accountable publicly. And it's because we've been lied on so much publicly. We've been. You know, there's so much propaganda that ruins our public image that we don't have anything to be ashamed about. Especially when the majority of our history in this country is built off of people lying about us and who we are. To justify their wrongdoing of us in our community, they utilize media and propaganda every time they come in to burn down one of our thriving black communities. They use media and propaganda to justify the war on drugs, to justify Jim Crow, to justify damn near any. Any situation where they are brutalizing or defaming us and attacking our character. They will use media to justify and they will be loud about it. And we have always been in a position where we feel like we have to defend ourselves. And on the other side of that coin, nobody is louder about the love that we have for one another.

[Big Cat]

Nobody's gonna celebrate us louder.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nobody's gonna. Nobody's gonna show up for our wins before we do so.

[Big Cat]

The black community, by and large, is

[Deontay Kyle]

always in support of itself, always fighting to control the narrative in our community when someone is always trying to push a narrative or control the narrative about who we are and how we operate and just what our essence is as people. Now, other communities

[Big Cat]

holding themselves accountable publicly

[Deontay Kyle]

is a fairly new concept. We've seen this, you know, a couple months ago with the Asian community.

[Big Cat]

My fault. Yeah. My past.

[Deontay Kyle]

Big cat, you know what I'm saying? He's supposed to be working. He want to scroll on Instagram.

[Big Ice Cup]

I was doing research on a 2 Chain episode.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah,

[Big Ice Cup]

Big ice cut.

[Deontay Kyle]

Strike one.

[Big Cat]

Listen, the Asian community is holding themselves accountable.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, where they talk about other Asians and how they like to kiss ass with white people and how, you know, white people have come out to, you know, kind of co op their spaces and, and, and, and, and, you know, appropriate some of their customs and cultures and, and also they speak, you know, they've spoken about how they're, you know, basically socialized to be anti black and how that starts at home and, you know, how anti Blackness is heavy in Asia, especially in East Asia, well, throughout Asian and whole, because it's a big thing in Southeast Asia as well. It's a big thing in India. So other communities holding themselves accountable publicly is a fairly new thing compared to us. And we always say, well, you know, we need to stick together like the Mexicans, or we need to stick together like this set of people, that people. But what we don't understand is that they're operating like secret societies. They only show their highlights in order to be incomparable to the black community.

[Big Cat]

The, the reason why they only showcase

[Deontay Kyle]

their highlights is because they don't want to be compared to us. They don't want to be seen as flawed. And by always, you know, showing us the best parts of themselves and never discussing, you know, the family dynamics, never discussing the abuse practices, never discussing the anti blackness that permeates those communities, even though there are dark skinned people that live in those communities that are a part of those communities and those cultures and that heritage.

[Big Cat]

The reason why they don't want to

[Deontay Kyle]

speak about those things is because whiteness is pristine. It needs to be flawless, it needs to be without a blemish. That's the way that they uphold whiteness is by making it seem perfect. The way they uphold whiteness is to make it seem to be sought after. You know what I mean?

[Big Cat]

If it's flawed and we all flawed,

[Deontay Kyle]

then I don't need to seek after it. You know, I'll be good where I'm at.

[Big Cat]

So in order to assimilate into whiteness,

[Deontay Kyle]

you have to take on that practice of seeming pristine.

[Big Cat]

Because in the eyes of whiteness, everybody

[Deontay Kyle]

is flawed except them.

[Big Cat]

So when we look at these communities, specifically the white community and

[Deontay Kyle]

base it on evidence and base it on historical fact, is one of the most flawed communities. And everywhere they go, they engage further in the flaw of their character. The lion, the backstabbing, the treaty breaking, the racism and bigotry, the misogyny, the homophobia, using God to justify their evil actions and manipulation and misuse of religion, manipulating, manipulation and misuse of social programs and funds.

[Big Cat]

You know, some of these people have

[Deontay Kyle]

gotten rich off of stealing welfare. You know, Brett Favre stole millions of dollars from the poorest state in America,

[Big Cat]

yet it's still heralded as one of

[Deontay Kyle]

the greatest quarterbacks of all time.

[Big Cat]

Meanwhile, Michael Vick got caught up fighting

[Deontay Kyle]

some dogs and has never seemed to recover from that reputation. Wise in spite of all the work that he's done to rewrite the narrative of his character. The Patriots are Still gonna be seen as one of the greatest dynasties of

[Big Cat]

all time, even though there's a known

[Deontay Kyle]

fact that they was cheating their way through that.

[Big Cat]

So whiteness has a way of operating

[Deontay Kyle]

in this, you know, this flawlessness because they're always out to control the narrative by controlling the narratives of others. They're invasive by nature. You. You can call them an invasive species of sorts. They like to disrupt your peace. They like to. They like to interrupt your progress. They. This is the community at large.

[Big Cat]

And when you are going to assimilate into those ways, what you learn how

[Deontay Kyle]

to do very well is lie. Black people, one thing we don't do publicly is lie about who we are. Sometimes we take on ideologies that are rooted in pseudoscience. Sometimes we try to take the credit and accomplishments for every goddamn thing.

[Big Cat]

And by and large, a lot of

[Deontay Kyle]

those things that we have taken credit for are just due, we should have credit for. And sometimes because of blackness and how it's treated, we do like to racially draft niggas sometimes. You know, we do a lot of racial drafting.

[Big Cat]

You know, nigga could be black as

[Deontay Kyle]

night, but if he a coon, we don't want nothing to do with him. A nigga could be a quadroon. And if the nigga is any type of talent and any type of swag you like, that's a nigga, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

We do do a little racial drafting,

[Deontay Kyle]

but we're a flawed community and we

[Big Cat]

know that we are.

[Deontay Kyle]

And we don't run away from that aspect. And this is why accountability in our community will always be top tier. And we don't need to. The thing is that you can't get out of rhythm with who you are. You can't get out of rhythm with the truth. You can't seek to assimilate into a language of lies. That's how these other communities operate. In the language of lies. They lie about who they are. They misrepresent themselves as perfect. They misrepresent themselves as something to aspire to. And a lot of their advantages are privileges. A lot of their advantages are byproducts of assimilation. A lot of their advantages are byproducts of them knowing their place.

[Big Cat]

So not to mention, you know, the

[Deontay Kyle]

fact that the anti blackness permeates all cultures globally.

[Big Cat]

But to also mention that in an

[Deontay Kyle]

effort to be better than us, they have to lie about who they are. So we don't want to talk about the drug uses and alcoholism and abuse that goes on in the Hispanic community. But Anybody that spent time around them know is there. You know, we don't talk about some of the more predatory practices that go on in these Asian communities, but we know it's there. A lot of communities have big, big flaws, and more often than not, they're character flaws and not flaws of effect. A lot of the flaws in the black community are flaws of effect. It's a lot of them are effects of y' all won't stop fucking with us.

[Big Cat]

It would be hard to see what

[Deontay Kyle]

our baseline human flaws are because I won't leave us the fuck alone. So it's very easy to sign us also as criminals when that's the only thing for a long period of time that you will hire us for in film and media is to be a criminal, to be a slave, to be a drug pusher, to be a pimp, to be a whore, to be a junkie, you know, to be a fucking coon. A lot of times, that is the roles that, you know, the people who control Hollywood saw fit for us to fill. And anytime that we saw that we were in roles of empowerment, and especially in films where we were predominant, there was always pushback for that. That's the pushback for sinners. That's the pushback for the Eddie Murphy film. What's the Eddie Murphy film? Boomerang. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

All black cast.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And they was doing well.

[Deontay Kyle]

They was upper middle class people. They was doing really well. They was living well. That's the. That was the backlash for the Cosby's. Anytime black people are showing pride in themselves and showing themselves operating well with money and family structure and community, those

[Big Cat]

things get caught in question.

[Deontay Kyle]

But every time y' all leave us alone, those are our defaults.

[Big Cat]

A lot of times we only talk

[Deontay Kyle]

about the Tulsa massacre because of the drastic measures they took in Tulsa. But we don't talk about Durham, North Carolina. We don't talk about the MOVE group in Philadelphia and how they were bombed. We don't talk about Rosewood. We don't talk about Oscarville, which is now under a lake called Lake Lanier. We don't talk about Africatown in Mobile, Alabama, which is now surrounded by chemical plants that are poisoning that community. We don't talk about the multiple, multiple, multiple, multiple thriving black communities that were decimated by propaganda or outright jealousy and envy and backed by law. Y' all don't know what black people are capable of because y' all won't leave black people alone. And the reason why y' all won't Leave black people alone is because y' all know exactly what we're capable of.

[Big Cat]

Black people really don't seek equality with you.

[Deontay Kyle]

We seek to be left the fuck alone. And for whatever reason, you being in our business, you think you're doing us a fucking favor when the reality is you're envious and jealous of us because of what we've done, despite your constant harassment.

[Big Cat]

So when we want to talk about

[Deontay Kyle]

this government, we want to talk about whiteness. We want to talk about, you know, these things that these other communities assimilate to. We can talk about things they support, like ice. They support groups like ice, and, and even people who will be affected by ICE still support the government that employs ice, that increases the budget of ICE and lets them run amok. ICE agents are raping and impregnating children in these facilities. And in order to protect these children, they are shipping them to an island. They are raping and impregnating children in these facilities.

[Big Cat]

These people are supposed to be the

[Deontay Kyle]

enforcers, you know, they supposed to be protecting our borders. What part of protecting the borders does pedophilia play? Yes, Reggie, I'm recording.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

What part of protecting the border is that? What part does that play? And, and, and, and how is that beneficial to our. To our government or border?

[Big Cat]

No, this is the. This is the practice of middle. Middle management doing with upper management. And the owners.

[Deontay Kyle]

Do the owners rape and impregnate young people? Not young people, children. The owners of this country, sex traffic children.

[Big Cat]

The owners of these.

[Deontay Kyle]

Of this country harass, murder, defame, demean migrant communities in order to take advantage

[Big Cat]

of them, the people they employ.

[Deontay Kyle]

Even in the military.

[Big Cat]

The military nigga come out and say,

[Deontay Kyle]

oh, man, I can't be deployed to a country with all those caramel colored women. I won't be able to control myself. And we know that our military has engaged with the rape of many of Middle Eastern women.

[Big Cat]

We know that when white men engage

[Deontay Kyle]

in war, that's what they do, is they rape and pillage.

[Big Cat]

So how are we even funding ICE

[Deontay Kyle]

when this is their behavior if it's not within the guidelines of how this government operates? It's acceptable by our government, which is why they do it.

[Big Cat]

But this, this.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is seen, seen as acceptable behavior by and large in, in America, in the West. And again, I would say this is how the west was built. And they are just carrying out business as usual, as disgusting as it fucking is. Y' all say this is about protecting the border? Y' all say this is about protecting America and you know, America should be for Americans. Well, what role does rape and pedophilia play in this?

[Big Cat]

And shipping them to an island

[Deontay Kyle]

for protection is pretty on the nose. When the reality is ICE needs to be abolished. ICE needs to be defunded. These kids are going to need mental and physical health care and they need to be reunited with their families. Period point blank. There is nothing else to discuss. Yeah, these, these niggas are sick and they're disgusting, but their leadership is sick and disgusting. So there is nothing to be held accountable for when this is business as usual, when this is acceptable behavior from the top down

[Big Cat]

and we don't need

[Deontay Kyle]

to forget about the ongoing things. I've seen social media, my feed has been completely sanitized, my FYP has been sanitized both on Instagram and TikTok. You hardly hear anything about ice anymore unless you follow people who discuss this closely. You, you, you hardly see any coverage of anything going on within this ongoing war or with the, the ice. Ice ages run it rapid across America going rogue and obviously going against their assignment or just following orders. But you hardly see any coverage anymore because these people that not only are complicit in this behavior, but fund this behavior also control and fund social media so they sanitize this and, and now you get more and more news about that's irrelevant. You get more and more random videos that have nothing to do with nothing. You see less and less about people talking out on things and more and more video clips and movie clips and ignorant and fights and just the, the all time worst period of social media, if I must say so myself. There's nothing informative, there's nothing engaging. Everything is an ad, everything is AI. It's all bullshit. And so how has this decimated our once thriving online communities? And how do we return to some more communal practices outside? What are some third spaces that we can operate in and where are some places where we can show up and just give back? You know my go to is the high school to go talk to the babies, but my other go to is the food banks. And I never stop. Even when they reinstated food stamps, I never stopped. You know, if we talk about the way that this country treats others, then we'll talk about them basically leaving Cuba without electricity for however many odd days or weeks, which means their food spoiled. Health care went, went unattended. Sanitation was just a thing of the past for a few moments. And we have a country ride blackout and an act of war

[Big Cat]

to destabilize

[Deontay Kyle]

a country in that way. Not to mention the chaos that would ensue and the way that criminals will run rampant at a time like that. There's no mention of how women and children were affected by that, how the elderly were affected by that, and how probably thousands of innocent men were affected by that. A free for all carried out by the US government once again. Once again, I've never seen this many

[Big Cat]

videos of Benjamin Netanyahu.

[Deontay Kyle]

Never seen this many. Never. Never seen a dictator. Just at a coffee shop.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, just walking around. Come on man, you got going on.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's not forget the ongoings of this world. But let's also, let's take this time as black people to get closer to one another, to turn to one another. Most of our issues persist online and are not your lived experience in real life. Yes, we all have flaws in our family, but these all people are all people living in the effects of America. The same damage that it inflicted on you, it inflicted on your auntie, uncle, your cousin, your niece, your nephew, your sister, your brother, your mama and your daddy, your grandmama, your granddaddy alike. It inflicts this pain on us. No matter what age, race, gender we want to be or are in the black community. No matter how you identify, if you want to identify as mixed, if you want to identify as, you know, the non ether Asiatic black man, it doesn't matter. It will inflict the damage on you the same. And we have to understand that we've all been inflicted with this damage and it's time for us to turn to one another. And you know, one thing that I want to talk about on this first cousins tour is, you know, is it's a good riddance. A resignation from the corporation. I'll discuss that more on tour and maybe I'll bring that subject to the show when the tour is over. But I want to discuss a good riddance and a resignation from this corporation and a re acclimation to each other. Because what we're learning more and more every day is that the money ain't gonna save you. The status ain't gonna save you. The class ain't gonna save you. The bags ain't gonna save you. The aesthetics won't save you. None of the materials will save you. The only thing we have right now more than ever is each other. And putting individuality over community is no longer acceptable. We have to turn to one towards one another. We have to reinstate our trust with one another. And we have to fight vigorously to reinstate our love for one another. The revolution is what love? I don't want the reparations. I want a good riddance. And we'll discuss that in a few weeks when the tour is over. We'll discuss that in full, but we'll discuss that on the road. We'll discuss that on the road without the cameras.

[Big Cat]

But yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It is time more than ever for us to turn our backs on this country that has always had its back turned to us. It's time for us to turn our hearts away from a country that's always been cold hearted towards us and its people. Not only the country, but its people and its production and the type of minds and communities that it produces. It's time for us to turn our hearts away from that and turn our. Turn our hearts towards one another. It's time for us to break our allegiance with this monster and restrength and restructuring the allegiance we have within ourselves. Because the only thing that we know we can rely on is each other. We'll be right back after these commercial breaks.

[Big Cat]

We we back. All right, all right, all right.

[Deontay Kyle]

657234 eggs. That's 657234, 3447. If you want to leave a voicemail, we got a couple voicemails today.

[Big Cat]

Oh,

[Deontay Kyle]

all right, let's check in one boy, Josh.

[Caller Josh]

Hey, so my name is Josh. I called in the other day. You should throw that message out, I guess. You know the easiest way to start this is like, I'm white. I'm a huge fan though, you know, spreading knowledge. I live in Philadelphia. I'm from Philadelphia. I met my wife a couple years ago. She was a childhood victim of trafficking at the hands of her adoptive parents. White family. I got into a lot of shit with them when we first met, started the show, and for some reason she trusted them to some degree to stay there. And then we ended up living together. But long story, I'm on my way back from North Philly right now and thank God for Hispanics community. My tires get flattened all the time. Her tires get flat. We share a car and it's just constant harassment. For a while we dealt with carjackers, like people trying to get her car all the time. And to the frequency where this must be the most fucking popular car in fucking Philly. So to keep it short, this guy said, you know, whatever. You gotta keep these messages short. But you know, I love you guys. My wife really enjoys your show too.

[Caller/Listener]

We're huge fans.

[Caller Josh]

But definitely there's white people that are fucked up and you know, guillotine, bro. These deserve the guillotine. Yeah. Bring back Guillotine 2029. So much love from Philadelphia. You guys gotta add this to your fucking tour. I said that on my last call, but disregard that call. Was a little sleepy. And. Yeah, I love you guys. Katie, Keep spreading knowledge, my man.

[Big Cat]

Shout out to white Philadelphia.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, listening to the Knowledge over here.

[Big Ice Cup]

Give me a good, good hoagie.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, they like good hoagie.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's from South Philly.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

But it's loving North Philly.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Y' all need to move the. Out of North Philly.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. It's time to move to Allentown, man. Harrisburg.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Something like this.

[Big Ice Cup]

Go somewhere.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Go to Pittsburgh.

[Deontay Kyle]

Claim your piece.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm saying reclaiming. That's.

[Big Cat]

That's a long.

[Deontay Kyle]

Pittsburgh is a long way away from Philadelphia.

[Big Ice Cup]

It is.

[Big Cat]

Just go to Allentown, Harrisburg, you know,

[Deontay Kyle]

go to a suburb.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? It's time to get out of Philly, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

The homie. One of my. My. One of my good friends just moved out of Philly for the first time in his life. And that nigga is so happy. And he's like, man, y' all think I be bullshitting because he's an educator? He's like, man, y' all think I'd be bullshitting about the violence out here? Like, it's. You know, he was like, I'm sure this city has seen crazier, but it's still crazy. And, you know, it seems like he's a testament to that, man. Shout out. You know, shout out to our white fans.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Normally, we wouldn't have let that rock,

[Big Ice Cup]

you know, saying you do the Knowledge.

[Big Cat]

Doing the Knowledge, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

Got the Wu Tang on, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? We ain't mad at. In North Philly doing the Knowledge also, you know, when we do the north

[Deontay Kyle]

east leg in a tour, we definitely coming to Philly.

[Big Ice Cup]

Gotta come to Philly.

[Deontay Kyle]

Love Philly. And, you know, I've been to Philly quite a few times. I'll be in Philly again. You know, I'm hosting United Wheel Film Festival again for the second time this year.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Likely the last.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm talking.

[Big Cat]

You know, I'm just saying the budgets

[Deontay Kyle]

increase every year, man.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? This year's price is not next year's price.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because last year's price was not this year's I just, you know, it is what it is, man. You know, elevate, you know, hopefully we can find us a happy medium. I go give them a three peak. Get a pie.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, he's done.

[Deontay Kyle]

I actually love that film festival. No, Cap, we had such a good time. That was a blast. But either way, I digress. I'll be back in Philly, but we will be in Philly as soon as we start playing Northeast leg tour. You also have to be mindful that, like, we are Southerners. We not used to that.

[Big Ice Cup]

Not going up there.

[Big Cat]

You know, I'm not going up there

[Deontay Kyle]

no earlier than May, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Everything thought out, you know, everything has to thaw out. You know what I'm saying? And. And. And. And y'. All.

[Deontay Kyle]

Y' all had to get through y' all fake spring and then get into the real spring, you know what I mean? I ain't.

[Big Cat]

I ain't coming none of them spots no later than May.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, no earlier than May, no later than September. Hey, you know what I'm saying? That's my vibe.

[Caller/Listener]

Yo, what up, D? Cat is super from 850. Long time, cousin. I mean, come on, y'. All. It's only $8. But I've been noticing, you know, we. We as black folk, we waking up, like, we finally realizing, like, the. The religious. What you want to call it, Psychosis. I guess it's been, like, a growing thing between, like, online. You've been seeing it. You've been talking on it. Last couple episodes, too. Like, love to see it, too, but, like, to hit different when it hit home. Like, I. I can't even have a damn honest conversation with my mama, but it's turning into a sermon, and it's like, damn. I was like, I'm talking about. It's been a minute now. We on the cruise, little family and friends thing. I'm thinking back to Thanksgiving. We had a little tableside magician this, doing magic. He go to read mine. She instantly start praying. So I'm like, bro, we can't even just enjoy. Dad, I'm talking about. I'm telling her I'm getting into yoga and stuff. Trying to get, you know, yoga, the devil. But she might as well be Bobby Boucher. Mama, I'm the water boy out this bitch. But like I said, get some off my chest, man. I ain't. I ain't got no advice I need. But with y' all boys, keep it up.

[Big Ice Cup]

Shout out to you and Captain Encino.

[Big Cat]

This is religious.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Can't Even do a magic show.

[Big Cat]

Can't even goddamn enjoy magic show. Want to do a little hypnosis. Okay, now he like, he making me the lockdown in green pastures. She gone straight. You know what I mean? She fucked with that.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I walked through the valley of the shadow of death. I would fear no evil.

[Big Ice Cup]

No evil.

[Big Cat]

Hit that nigga with the holy water turned to flames. Yeah, read that. Yeah, that nigga sick of mama. Nigga mama. He feel like I'm on do some bullshit.

[Big Ice Cup]

Mama Katie. Just enjoy simple shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Can't even have a good time.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

Mama got a description of every goddamn thing.

[Caller Josh]

Oh.

[Deontay Kyle]

Swear you can take it to a drag show. She burst into flames. She'll return.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Monka bust.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, she's going up beyond her.

[Big Ice Cup]

I'm gonna pass out of the beach.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah, for sure. She's not making out of there a lot. All right.

[Caller/Listener]

Hello, I am trans, black, African American and neurodivergent. We have the genetic composition to survive. Let me say this. Every time you stand up for yourself, you stand up for everyone within you and around you. And that's today. Nothing but $8. I saw Deontay Kyle on Tick Tock a couple years ago when I was living in my car, getting ready to go get a CNC vocational degree so I could get a trade. The rubric works. Usually got a get really comfortable with white people if you're not used to that. However, I'm disabled, so I've got to find another path in life. But let me just say this. I was in the shelter and I dropped that $8 when I needed my head screwed on right. That should ain't nothing. That $8. My bottom dollar will go to Deontay Kyle every time because he's speaking the truth and he's saying that with his chest. This is coming from Philly. Is it coming from Trinidad and Tobago? This is coming from people who have eyes and have common sense. This has never lied. This needs to be protected and risen up so you continue to tell the truth. My go by Sunday. My pronouns are she and they. Now I'm 10 to down with $8 to my name. And I'm giving that to Deontay Kyle to this day. Good.

[Big Ice Cup]

You gotta love it, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

God damn.

[Big Ice Cup]

You gotta love it.

[Deontay Kyle]

I didn't want to read emails.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

He shut the show down.

[Big Cat]

I already read the wall.

[Big Ice Cup]

He dropped the bomb, son. He dropped the bomb just then. The bottom $8.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you got a chime account right now, put that on auto Pay for the Grizznet podcast.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ain't nothing to $8. You heard it, man.

[Big Cat]

The bottom eight.

[Deontay Kyle]

The bottom eight. Not even the top eight. The bottom eight, bottom eight, boy. With me, man. Appreciate you, cuz.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. That was crazy love.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, it's dope.

[Deontay Kyle]

Damn, that really just powered me up. I don't know if I want to

[Big Cat]

read the emails no more like, I feel like we just signed, sealed, and delivered right there.

[Big Ice Cup]

So, yeah, he dropped the sermon.

[Big Cat]

That was an imperative message.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? At the mouth of babes, when these type speak, you gotta listen.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta listen. But we ain't gonna straight change our

[Big Cat]

folks, you know what I'm saying? We coming in a lot.

[Deontay Kyle]

We got a tight hour right now. Yeah, this is a tight episode, man. We gotta get. We. We gotta pack this merch up. We gotta get ready to hit this road, baby. We do. All right, let's hear it. Hello, Mr. Deontay, Kyle and Mr. Cat of the biggest ice cups. Hope you all are doing well. Bit of background. I just recently realized through therapy that my hatred towards men isn't just misandry. I'm actually just gay.

[Big Ice Cup]

Oh, sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

All right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Welcome.

[Big Cat]

I say that to say, Big ice cub. I say that to say I just got out of my first relationship with

[Deontay Kyle]

a woman and it was terrible.

[Big Cat]

Well, welcome. Welcome to off world, baby. We back.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just want to say that women can also be abusers. I was just a little slow on the uptake and I stayed a little longer than I should have. But I just wanted to get the message out there that just because you're in a woman loving woman relationship doesn't mean that it's not. That it's not domestic violence. Just because you're both women, don't get swept up in the begging, crying, gaslighting, and manipulation. If you feel like something's not right, it isn't. If they'll push you, they'll slap you. If they'll slap you, they'll punch you. If they'll punch you, they'll kick you. If they'll kick you, they'll kill you. Just because it's less common doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Doesn't exist. Glad I made it out safe. And to my fellow women who love women leave the first time. If they do it once, they'll do it again. Thank you for your time. Have a blessed day, guys. Love you, cousins. Well, we glad you got a part of it.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get up out of There should nobody

[Big Cat]

be putting them up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hands on you. Hands, feet. Nothing. Nothing.

[Big Ice Cup]

God damn it. Nothing.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? The only contact y' all should be having is loving contact.

[Co-host/Guest]

That's it.

[Deontay Kyle]

You heard a man. So any abuse is unnecessary and unacceptable. And like she said, get out of there. First time, you know, so, you know, we're glad that you have found yourself. We're sorry that your first experience wasn't a great experience. But don't let it deter you. There's a lot of loving women out there that won't put their hands on you, won't manipulate and gaslight you. Oh, man, we sure you.

[Big Cat]

You on.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're on your new journey. You want to pass.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

And you'll find the one for you. Bad credit, no credit, all problems. Hello there, sir Deontay and the coolest co host in the world, Big Ice Cup.

[Big Ice Cup]

Kizzy, I ain't got no money, man.

[Big Cat]

Big eyes. Big ice, Big ice.

[Big Ice Cup]

Big ice Cup.

[Big Cat]

It's your cousin Key from way down in New Orleans. Way down New Orleans.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm looking for advice on getting a car before this year's end. Well, you got a long way to

[Big Cat]

go, you know what I'm saying? It's March 20th is when you wrote this in. You got, you got some time.

[Deontay Kyle]

The pause cars. I am homeless. I have been homeless and within the last year, I've gotten myself housing and a new job. All right, I think this is the merge. Let's see.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yep.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, here we go.

[Caller/Listener]

All right,

[Deontay Kyle]

all right, all right, we back. All right, the merch is secured. We're ready to roll, baby.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

The up out of here now.

[Big Cat]

So we're gonna wrap this thing up. We get the hell on the road.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay, Again, it's your cousin Keith from

[Big Cat]

way down New Orleans.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm looking for advice on getting a car before the year ends. I have been homeless and within the last year I've gotten myself housing and a new job. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? Round of applause for that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah,

[Big Cat]

It's been hard as I have

[Deontay Kyle]

been on my own since I was 19 and I'm 24 now. No help from family members as due to trauma and separating from them, I have been months behind on my rent. I'm currently in the catch up process, but I still want to make preparations on getting a car. I've tried car lots, credit unions, even Facebook, marketplace. No, look, my credit is shot from being non educated on how important Credit is in America. Credit unions won't loan me loan to me because of this. And Facebook marketplace is selling limits over $3,000. I want to build credit, but how can I if they won't work to me? I start plumbing school school soon, but the class are in another parish and I don't want to miss the opportunity because I'm not mobile. I catch the bus as of now. But I'm extremely gra. And I'm extremely grateful to even have that. But I need more so I can spend on my. So I can expand on my opportunities. Let me know if there's anything I can do to better my credit or if anybody has cars for sale within the cousins. Thank you both for the work you are doing in the black community. I would say this.

[Big Cat]

I say. I say let's all put together a

[Deontay Kyle]

fun and get shot in a car.

[Big Ice Cup]

Honda Civic.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? A little Toyota Camry, some.

[Deontay Kyle]

If anybody sells cars and you're not selling no bullshit. Please don't, bruh. Don't. With the credibility of the community. Don't. Just think about yourself. If you sell cars and they legit, reach out to me, let me know how much it is me Big cat put something together and then we'll reach to the cousins and we'll put something together and we'll get you a car. We'll drive that down to New Orleans ourselves.

[Big Cat]

If it make it to New Orleans.

[Deontay Kyle]

We good.

[Co-host/Guest]

We good, baby. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Well, you know what I'm saying. Holl at somebody that can help you. Oh, we'll come down there and help

[Deontay Kyle]

you go get that registered and everything.

[Big Cat]

We'll be good.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I'm dead ass too. If you sell cars and you are in Atlanta. In Atlanta because that's where we'll be able to go get it. If you sell car, something decent, something, you know, six to nine racks.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's good.

[Big Cat]

That's good.

[Deontay Kyle]

A good car, good car.

[Big Cat]

Not. No, you know, I mean, Big Cat will.

[Deontay Kyle]

And.

[Big Cat]

And your pops will take Pops with

[Deontay Kyle]

us to go check it out.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna take somebody with me to

[Co-host/Guest]

come check this out.

[Big Cat]

Trust me, I know that know cars.

[Big Ice Cup]

You gonna know a call.

[Big Cat]

One thing I know Pops Pops no car.

[Big Ice Cup]

If you anything ticking, you can leave them over right now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, leave it right there. So we're gonna take Pops with us and we're gonna make sure you get

[Deontay Kyle]

your whip, man, because you know you need this opportunity. I think this will be a big

[Big Cat]

breakthrough for you, you know what I'm saying? As far as the credit thing, it's.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a work in progress, man. You're 24. You know, my credit wasn't when I was 24, it was decent though, but it wasn't. It wasn't the best. You know what I'm saying? I would say just stay away from any payday loans, anything like that. Anything where you got to get involved with now and then. High interest rates on the back end. Just stay away from that. Other than that, man, we proud of you. You don't pulled yourself up out the trenches, man. And you gonna keep going.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

But we're gonna get you a car, man.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? A new car. You know, it's gonna be hard as we drive to New Orleans.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

A new car.

[Deontay Kyle]

Getting boy a new car part.

[Big Cat]

All we gotta do is put some

[Deontay Kyle]

insurance on that, you know what I'm saying? And we could.

[Big Cat]

We could wheel that all the way down New Orleans.

[Deontay Kyle]

Me and Big Cat, we'll hand deliver that to you. I got your info.

[Big Cat]

We'll.

[Deontay Kyle]

Somebody reach out to me, let me know.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? And if. And if anybody sees it in their

[Deontay Kyle]

heart, if anybody got a car they not using.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? And they just got an extra car and a car that they would love to get away to a young person that's trying to get their together, let us know and we'll come grab that too.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If not, we'll pay for the shipping.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

We'll pay to get it shipped wherever.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout at.

[Big Cat]

So just let us know. You know, either you sell cars and you're not selling. No. Or you got a car that you

[Deontay Kyle]

can just literally give away. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? If you want to bless, if you

[Deontay Kyle]

want to be a blessing in somebody

[Big Cat]

else's life, let us know so we can facilitate that process.

[Deontay Kyle]

And we'll give you all the credit.

[Big Cat]

But you know, first and foremost, our glory go to God.

[Big Ice Cup]

All glory to God.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying? Need guidance and advice.

[Deontay Kyle]

Thank you for taking time to read my email. I've been a fan since the 84 lumber days.

[Big Cat]

Okay. You knew I worked up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Sorry.

[Big Cat]

As a former 84 Lumber employee myself,

[Deontay Kyle]

I appreciate your perspective on different topics. I'm reaching out because I'm in a bit of a tough spot. 27 year old male. Me and my wife live in Houston, Texas. We're expecting our first child, Baby Girl in early July. Issue is I recently lost my remote financing job. A remote Finance job of three years. Based in North Carolina. I was permitted to work remotely from North Carolina, but after we moved to Texas in June 2025, I was let go in late November due to quote unquote layoffs. Since then I've been trying to find stable work as a CSR data entry clerk. I've even applied to Walmart and other local businesses, but nothing came through. Currently doing a data annotation. Earning around 15, 16 hour wind time is available, which is not enough to support us. My wife also took a pay cut recently. God damn this economy.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

What's wrong? Oh, that's that fan.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay, okay. There's a little. There's a silver line. My wife.

[Big Cat]

Mother.

[Deontay Kyle]

My wife's mother has offered to move us in her house next month, rent free. She stays in Columbia, South Carolina, but I'm concerned about getting stuck there if I can't find suitable employment. My research of jobs shows limited opportunities in that area that match my current skill set. Her mom has a space in her house and wants her daughter there since she's the only child. But with us moving, my wife wouldn't get her FMLA from her current job. Might get harder for me to find work in a state that's not tech, finance or data hub. And I'm thinking about potentially starting a demolition junk removing business when I get there. But I don't know if the best time since my baby will be here soon, since my family's in North Carolina, her mom is in South Carolina. I know support is there, but I'm feeling lost on the next move. What should I do? Thanks again. Sorry for the long email. The.

[Big Cat]

The jobs.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

These jobs.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Go where the support is.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is the thing we preach about. You want to figure it out on your own, I get it. You're not figuring it out in Texas,

[Big Cat]

you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

So you're talking about the limited amount of jobs in South Carolina, but obviously your job, your job prospects are limited in Texas. Your wife just took a pay cut. Listen, we have to stop thinking about what we're going to lose monetarily and think about what we're going to gain.

[Big Cat]

Community.

[Deontay Kyle]

Your family is right there. Her family is there. The baby will be around. A lot of love. These people are not going to let y' all struggle. These people are not going to let y' all be out on the street. What a blessing that is. Yes. That is not everybody's story. So I would say to you, really take advantage of the opportunity to be around family, especially in a time like this, is a beautiful time. You know, I get it. You know, we got to figure out the world.

[Big Cat]

Got to figure out our space in

[Deontay Kyle]

the world, especially as men. You know what I'm saying? We want to. Want to make sure that we're being provisionary, but times get hard, bro. I lost my job at 27, had to move to Florida with family, moved back to Alabama with family, and that was the. That was the pathway for me to get where I am now.

[Big Cat]

If I hadn't moved in with my

[Deontay Kyle]

granny, I'd probably never drove trucks. I'd have probably never made content, probably would not be no Grizz in this podcast. Always take advantage and always seek to go where the support is.

[Big Ice Cup]

Facts.

[Deontay Kyle]

Your family loves you.

[Big Cat]

These.

[Deontay Kyle]

This America, this corporation don't love you. It ain't no job that's gonna love you. You're gonna have to work either way it go. I think starting a junk removal business is a great first step. That's you taking advantage of an opportunity to. To be independent. That's you taking advantage of opportunity to be an entrepreneur. And you don't know.

[Big Cat]

You know, one thing I know about

[Deontay Kyle]

South Carolina, a lot of junk.

[Big Ice Cup]

All right?

[Big Cat]

So my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad.

[Big Ice Cup]

Lot of jung and akins. That's a lot of junk in South Carolina.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now.

[Big Ice Cup]

I'm just reminiscing. Going to see my dad in the halfway house.

[Big Cat]

He was in South Carolina. That's a lot of junk. I've been in some junkie. I'm just. I've been in some junky South Carolinian town. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying. I just remember, you know what I'm saying? Just everywhere, everywhere, everywhere. I've been in warehouses, a lot of junk. You. You got. You got the right mind. I mean, God damn, listen to your intuition. Should need to be demolished.

[Big Ice Cup]

Just need to be one big Carolina.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just. Just Carolina.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Kill that border, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, my bad.

[Deontay Kyle]

I cracked myself up.

[Big Cat]

But yeah, man, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

I. Listen, go where the support is. Go where the love is.

[Big Cat]

Also, you know, this is a great

[Deontay Kyle]

opportunity, like I'm telling.

[Big Cat]

Shut up, big cat. Listen, man, you start your own business

[Deontay Kyle]

as soon as your baby. Listen, the baby needs you right now. The baby's going to be around.

[Big Cat]

A lot of love, but you, you, you, you know, if you want to

[Deontay Kyle]

go really start some. The business, it is really now, now is the time.

[Big Cat]

Because let's say by the time that baby get three, four, you got a couple of employees, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

You a worry about nothing, man. You got a whole junkyard,

[Caller/Listener]

you know,

[Big Cat]

this is last name Harris Junkyard, you know what I'm saying? Harris and Sons, Harrison Sons, you know what I'm saying? Harrison S. Junkyard, you know what I'm saying? Right there. Goddamn Columbia, South Carolina, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

Home of the junk. Yo, South Carolina gonna hate us at this. We love South Carolina, so we just bullshit with y', all, son. It is a lot of jugging at the Gusty River.

[Big Cat]

God damn, we saying wrong.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah,

[Big Cat]

We do have a large fan base in South Carolina. And we sorry, we just off like, God damn. Y' all got to be honest about where y' all live, you know, just everywhere. In the show, sir, please, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, man, just go where your family is, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't worry about the money, man. The money going to come. You young, you know what I'm saying? You, you.

[Big Cat]

It's always, you know, this is a

[Deontay Kyle]

good, good, good time for a man to start his life over.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Good time for a man to reinvent and rebrand himself.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Get the out of Texas, man, you know what I'm saying? Go to South Carolina.

[Deontay Kyle]

Go to Texas.

[Big Cat]

Get your junk on, son. Put all your junk in your trunk and move to South Carolina.

[Big Ice Cup]

Just bringing more junk,

[Caller/Listener]

You know what I'm saying?

It's just hip hop.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's just, you know what I'm saying?

[Caller/Listener]

Just rats, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Turn me off, man. It's just rats. Real quick. My bad.

[Big Cat]

You know, it's been episode 132.

[Co-host/Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Of the Grizzly Nays podcast. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man.

[Caller/Listener]

Sad. Yeah. Yeah.

[Audience Member/Interjection]

They say without the proper labor, faith don't stand a chance. I put my faith in faith and stand on fertile land. I planted seeds, Adeline Deed turning the trees before rest in Peace teas get printed to me unless impeded. Matter of fact, that got me thinking back when Mr. Love was tending to his garden, schooling me to annuity before he grabbed his clucks to go golfing. And it's no coincidence that do still had the caddy back when woods were still the best. Don't let me roll off course here. Georgie Pops was dropping gems while I was lighting cigs. But you know, I too was listening with Mo. You see, that's the best that I can do. Wisdom is the application of knowledge. I was picking up what he was putting down. Just wasn't applying it. I ain't denying it. Nah, maybe I was too busy trying to find the balance between religion and science. Trying to get to the bottom of everything while being the highest. Like a pilot's roots, am I right brother? Cuz I was simultaneously relaying it through reason and rhyming that I sought for us dissecting systems responsible for our imprisonment. The visionary with astigmatism in Scar Cordias if love is blind, then what am I? You can't fight faith, that's why.

[Co-host/Guest]

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