Episode 142 - Mandal

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast — Episode 142: Mandal (May 1, 2026)
Host: Deante’ Kyle
Guest: Mandal (Comedian/Creator)

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Episode Overview

This episode brings together Deante’ Kyle and Atlanta-born comedian Mandal for a warm, free-flowing, and deeply funny exchange about formative experiences, pop culture, comedy hustle, the changing landscape of the internet, and staying grounded as success grows. The duo moves through wide-ranging topics — from the realities of childhood foods and fashion in Black Southern culture, to career pivots and creative risk-taking, with extended detours into wrestling, acting, and the traps of chasing ever-bigger success. The chemistry between Deante’ and Mandal is effortless: they riff, reminisce, and debate in a rich Atlanta vernacular, pulling listeners into their world with vivid anecdotes and lived humor.

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Main Discussion Points and Insights

1. Coffee, Truck Driving, and the Dynamics of “Made-Up Jobs”

• Starts (00:35–06:57) with a playful debate on black coffee vs. “dessert for breakfast,” then pivots to the realities of truck driving (long hauls, crazy schedules), logistics, and the “middleman” economy.
• Key insight:
  Mandal admits, “So many jobs in the U.S. are just made up, for sure. My job was there's a trucker, and then there's a business, and then they give me a price, and then I lie to you about that number... I’m like, if this dude just had access to these people, they all would have been better off.” (05:51)

2. Childhood Food Memories: Oatmeal, Miracle Whip, Vienna Sausage

• (07:08–14:59) The hosts swap family stories about food staples and “almost real” brands — pallets of oatmeal, fake cheese, Vienna sausages, Spam, Chef Boyardee.
• Notable moment:
  “Vienna sausages is for niggas on the go.” — Deante’ (12:07)
• Insight:
  The discussion weaves nostalgia, socioeconomic reality, and a critique of over-processed food, especially as memory (“My grandma would have been like, n. All we eat is oatmeal breakfast, lunch, and dinner.” — Mandal, 07:39).

3. Identity, Last Names, and Atlanta Fashion

• (15:08–21:32) A funny examination of big-brand surnames (Abercrombie, Aeropostale) and the “black boy-white boy swag” era:
• “If your last name Aeropostale, you should have some sort of benefit for such a ridiculous last name.” — Mandal (17:12)
• “You got involved with the black boy-white boy swag. I was all in on that. I want you to get this on camera.” — Deante’ (17:53)

4. The Struggles of Health, Weight, and Hustle On the Road

• (19:00–22:12) Both talk candidly about weight fluctuations, body image, and struggling to eat healthy while traveling.
• On staying healthy as a performer:
  “The road... it’s easy to get outta hand. Chicken wings and burgers and mozzarella sticks. Like that shit just ain’t good for you, bro.” — Deante' (20:54)

5. Social Media to Podcasting: Creative Evolution and Solo Creation

From TikTok to long-form: (21:49–26:05)

• Deante' explains the challenge of moving from quick TikTok clips to longer podcasts:
  “That’s a crazy jump... I got a type 5 and they be like, yeah, can you do a half-hour?” (22:55)
• Mandal reflects on solo podcasting:
  “The solo podcast, bruh. That’s hard work. People don’t know how hard that is...to talk through your ideas by yourself.” (23:18)
• Both discuss performing imperfection:
  “It’s commendable to not worry about being perfect. That’s something comedians struggle with.” — Mandal (24:16)

6. Pathways in Comedy & Viral Success

Atlanta comedy brotherhood and the moment things “shake up”: (25:01–29:49)

• Mandal shares how his work slowly gained traction after years on the Atlanta standup scene and social media, culminating in the BigFun Network and touring.
• Memorable quote:
  “You just doing standup and stuff and nothing happened. And then like, oh, people was watching... now I have a responsibility to that.” — Mandal (29:07)

7. The Craft of Being Funny in Different Mediums

• (31:20–34:34) The difficulty of trusting comedic instinct off-stage, especially in digital “sketch” formats, and the differing philosophies of crowd-tested jokes vs. internet creation.
• “The culture of creating on the Internet is the exact opposite [of standup]... you just tossing it out there... It's a little bit of a gamble.” — Mandal (33:33)

8. Creativity, Failure, and Accepting Weakness

• (36:09–41:01) Both hosts openly discuss their failures trying music, beats, and other creative jobs.
• “Maybe I’m not from the future, maybe I’m weak.” — Deante’ (39:35)
• “They just don’t understand. And it’s like, nah. Like this. Y’all just weak, bruh. ...It’s not funny.” — Mandal (40:03)

9. The Mythos of Atlanta and “Being Yourself”

• (44:40–54:18) Conversation about Atlanta’s unique Black culture—“every type of nigga” can just exist—contrasted to other cities where identity is boxed in.
• “Because it’s a Black universe, you could be whoever you wanna be.” — Mandal (45:26)
• On suburban posturing:
  “I would rather you be a street nigga... than be smart and intelligent and cul de sac. And you pretending.” — Deante' (50:18)

10. Childhood Passions: Wrestling and Comedy

• (55:00–67:37) Celebratory and critical deep dive into WWF/WWE: how wrestling shaped childhoods, the bizarreness of storylines, and the toll it takes.
• “As a child and as a fan, this is the most exciting shit of all time. As an adult — health insurance.” — Deante’ (63:30)
• Mandal: “If I get slammed right now, I’m out for a month, bro.” (64:13)

11. Chasing Success vs. Contentment

• (95:09–99:12) Both grapple with the nature of ambition, industry hierarchies, and the need for a stopping point before “enough” turns into “never enough.”
• “After you got the billion dollars and... whatever hole wasn’t filled, you gotta — something else gotta happen. ...You gotta be at peace at this point.” — Mandal (95:20)

12. Gratitude, Longevity, and Playing to Your Strengths

• (99:14–102:43) Both recognize how long “overnight success” takes, and close with advice about focusing on your natural talents and consistency, resisting the message to “be anything.”
• “You can't be anything... but you could be exactly what you good at.” — Deante’ (101:14)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On “middleman” jobs:
  “If this dude just had access to these people, they all would’ve been better off.” — Mandal (05:51)
• On “black boy-white boy swag” fashion:
  “I got involved with the black boy-white boy swag. I was all in on that.” — Deante’ (17:53)
• On standup vs. the internet:
  “Standup pacify you a little, because you know immediately if it was funny. The crowd laughed or they didn’t. On camera, you gotta rely on your sensibility.” — Mandal (31:46)
• On failure and humility:
  “Maybe I’m not from the future, maybe I’m weak.” — Deante’ (39:35)
• Atlanta’s freedom:
  “Because it’s a Black universe, you could be whoever you wanna be.” — Mandal (45:26)
• On outgrowing the need for more:
  “A big issue with anybody who be going too crazy — they didn’t realize, I should be at peace at this point.” — Mandal (95:10)
• On contentment:
  “My granny built a house at 28. She still live in that house now... She happy.” — Deante’ (98:30)
• Creative life lesson:
  “I truly do believe that most people can do most things. I don’t believe anybody can do anything, but if you just stick to a thing and be consistent, you could see some fruit.” — Mandal (99:57)
• On playing to strengths:
  “Double down on your strengths. The things you are naturally good at... Don’t worry about the things you don’t have a natural aptitude for — that’s for somebody else.” — Deante’ (102:36)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:35–06:57: Truck driving, “made-up jobs,” coffee, logistics industry realities
• 07:08–14:59: Childhood food struggles, processed food culture
• 15:08–21:32: Fashion and identity, “boy-white boy swag,” Atlanta shopping
• 21:49–26:05: Transitioning careers, solo podcasting, TikTok vs. YouTube
• 31:20–34:34: Standup vs. online comedy, trusting your comedic instincts
• 36:09–41:01: Creative failures in music, learning to accept and grow past weaknesses
• 44:40–54:18: Atlanta as a Black safe space, suburban vs. street cred
• 55:00–67:37: Wrestling nostalgia, the pain behind the spectacle
• 95:09–99:12: Limits of hustle, peace vs. infinite success, defining “enough”
• 99:14–102:43: Longevity, gratitude, and doubling down on strengths

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Closing and Plugs

• Mandal: Subscribe to BigFun Network on YouTube — more Big Biz episodes coming soon.
  Socials: @themandalman on all platforms.
  Comedy special: “Dollar Sign” (spelled with six $’s, pronounced ‘dollar sign’).
• Deante’: Living a new philosophy — “support people online who support you, in real life.”
  Both express thanks for the support and reflect on their mutual journeys.

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This episode delivers authentic laughs, deep insights on Black Southern culture, and a realistic look at the comedy and creator hustle. The conversation is rich with personal testimony, cultural analysis, and challenging truths—making it resonant for anyone chasing a dream or reminiscing on how far they've come.

Transcript

[A]

Yeah. Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty soul with a dirty mouth My knee orbit, miss things Things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my bitch no rest Fusion she gorgeous as I doubt my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead Tell them we gonna get this money to my pocket Sn morbid. Remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage.

[B]

That's the. That's the milk that's all black right there. And then it's sugar in the middle. Yeah. Oh, you just like me, for real. Yeah, I go. I go all black on the coffee. I don't play around with it.

[A]

I can't do the stuff, man.

[B]

I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to have sugar, man.

[A]

I'm not trying to have a dessert,

[B]

you know what I'm saying?

[A]

I feel like with the coffee people, cuz I just got into it and

[B]

the coffee folks, they want dessert for breakfast.

[A]

They doing a donut.

[B]

Yeah, they making a donut for breakfast. Nah, bruh. I'm a truck driver too, so it's like, you know what I'm saying? Somebody told me that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I had. Who?

[B]

Who told you that? I may have probably Ronnie ass.

[A]

Yeah, Ronnie was at.

[B]

Ronnie is so fucking funny, bro. Bruh, that nigga. My like. That nigga like my. Like. He like my podcast OG nigga right now. But he's this Atlanta nigga for sure.

[A]

For sure. Ronnie. Ronnie had crazy thing about Ronnie. He is the one of the. And he. And he. When he say this. It's true, bruh. He was one of the first people who was one of the older guys who was big on embracing new guys. Yeah, I thought I was gonna be able to talk with this thing in my mouth, but it's not.

[B]

Yeah, no, it ain't happening.

[A]

It ain't happening. Hold on.

[B]

You good?

[A]

Good. Look.

[B]

What is that, though?

[A]

No, I'm good.

[B]

It's a mint.

[A]

It's a cough drop.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

It's the.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Fisherman kind.

[B]

Yeah, you done got into them, bro. They got you, bro.

[A]

You think so?

[B]

They got you, bruh.

[A]

Listen, I don't think they got me yet, bruh.

[B]

Man, listen, dog, I'm not.

[A]

I. I'm still ain't doing, like, tofurky.

[B]

No, we ain't doing. We ain't never doing that.

[A]

The, like, made up food.

[B]

Yeah, we ain't there. Hey, look, I'm Gonna tell you, though. Yeah. Oh, this nigga.

[A]

You from the future. Hey, that blew my mind.

[B]

Can we get. Can we move this, too?

[A]

Can we move this? I seen him. Okay, but it was the fact that you said bts and you tapped your glass.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I was like, you James Bond.

[B]

Yeah, that nigga is from the future.

[A]

So that was on. Hey, but look, though. Why? Why? So when people be doing them skits with the glasses, does it usually blink like that?

[B]

Yeah, that just tells people that this is recording.

[A]

Oh, supposed to be acting like they don't see that.

[B]

No, they do, Manda. Everything is a skit.

[A]

That's crazy life. Because, like, I probably be, like, acting crazy, and then they know they was recording. But I'm like, if I'm looking at somebody and they just got a light flash. Come on, come on.

[B]

I'm like, hey, man, what are we talking about, bro?

[A]

Even if I didn't even know they I said that yet.

[B]

Listen, bro, I'm like. Even if I wave to the table. Yeah.

[A]

I'm like, hey, is this still blinking? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I'm like, that's what I'm saying, though. This is blinking.

[B]

His glasses blinking, my nigga. I'mma ask you why your glasses blinking?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. That be the middle of the skit.

[B]

Yeah. Nah, now the middle of your prank.

[A]

The middle of your prank. I'm like, your glasses blinking, man. What you talking about?

[B]

What's up with that?

[A]

And he like, nah, it just do that. And I'm like, nah, man.

[B]

I've been seeing glasses for a long time, bro. They ain't never started doing that. Why your glasses need a battery?

[A]

Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure, for sure. You not. This is not, like, powered medicine.

[B]

You dig what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know, it ain't artificial vision, nigga. This is, you know.

[A]

Cause then I start to be like, if it's not recording, you got X rays?

[B]

Now we talking without my consent. Yeah. Now we CIA sick, and I need you to address that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I ain't. I ain't fill out no consent form for this.

[A]

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I'm scared, bro. I get scared when I see flashes. Flashlight. All type of flashlight.

[B]

You know the city. Okay. Yeah, show us the futuristic swag this hard, bruh.

[A]

Futuristic swag. You bringing it all back, bro. And you still drive trucks?

[B]

No, sir.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I'm about to say impossible. You know what I'm saying? Like, can't do that no more, man. I've been since April.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

I quit in April.

[A]

That's hard. Congrats.

[B]

And then N just went north with it, like. Yeah.

[A]

I ain't gonna lie. I watch all the truck driver skits on Instagram. That's my favorite content. I don't be knowing what they be talking about.

[B]

Them niggas crazy, man.

[A]

But they seem like they having a good time. They yelling on that headset. You know what I'm talking about?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It's like a whole. It's like a radio. So it's a frequency radio.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you can talk to everybody around you.

[A]

How long. What's the longest drive you ever did?

[B]

Kentucky to Portland.

[A]

God, what's that for?

[B]

Three days.

[A]

Three days.

[B]

And I had somebody with me, so if I was by myself, it took five.

[A]

So when you got somebody with you, y' all stay.

[B]

It just keep rolling. That mean all the sleep you getting is in a truck while it moving, so. Look, it really ain't no sleep. For real.

[A]

So my first job when I got out of college, I was doing logistics sales for the, like, a 3 PL. You ever dealt with?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, man.

[A]

That's when I realized, bro, like, so many jobs in the US Are just made up, for sure. Cause my job was there's a trucker, and then there's a business, and then they give me a price, and then I lie to you about that number to get you to drive the truck to whatever they need to move. And I take home that amount in between. What they said versus what I told

[B]

you, it just kept.

[A]

And I'm like, if this dude just had access to these people, they all would have been better off.

[B]

It's middleman shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you basically, like, I used to work for a 3PO. I used to drive for a 3PL.

[A]

For real.

[B]

And, like, yeah, that's what it was. I was just like, on the interstate, traffic and jam. You know what I'm saying? Welch is great.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Welch is strawberry. All type of jams, nigga. All the jams.

[A]

You was a jam guy.

[B]

I was a jam guy.

[A]

Dang, bro. Did they give you some. They give you some dang discounts on some of them?

[B]

No, but I remember one time, them niggas gave me a pallet of oatmeal.

[A]

That's hard.

[B]

And I was like, ain't no way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I said, I don't need no pallet. They was like, well, you got kids. I was like, how much oatmeal you want? This is a lifetime supply. I was like, I Don't need that.

[A]

Hey. Oh.

[B]

They was like, there's nothing wrong with it. We just oversold.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? So this is excess. We can't do nothing. We can't resell it once it's been on the truck. And I was like, I'm scrap. I take a few boxes, but I'm not taking.

[A]

You ain't gonna take no pallet.

[B]

I'm not taking a pallet of oatmeal. It ain't Quaker. Can't be good for you like that.

[A]

But that's what I'm saying. Like, my grandmama, though.

[B]

Oh, man. Would have been on that generation. Yeah.

[A]

They would have been like, back it up, man.

[B]

What put that bitch in the house.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

My grandma would have been like, n. All we eat is oatmeal breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

[A]

But we get oatmeal for Christmas. Like, look in your stocking. You got whole two, three packs. Y' all boys enjoy.

[B]

Normally I throw an apple and an orange in there, but this year, I got apple and cinnamon.

[A]

Yeah, apple and cinnamon. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? I'm holding you down.

[A]

When oatmeal dropped that, it was a little era when oatmeal was like, we trying to get into the cereal market, and they start doing the colors.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Y' all remember the strawberries?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, oh, no, this different. But then it's a while.

[B]

I don't trust it, though. I don't fuck with it. It's pink and orange. I don't fuck with it.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. But when you get older, you like,

[B]

oh, no, they really.

[A]

This no longer oatmeal.

[B]

No, it's not.

[A]

This is some other science project.

[B]

It's a product.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Like, you remember we growing up, we eating crab. Like, I don't know how everybody else grew up. I know me, I just eat a slice of cheese right out the plastic.

[A]

Out the plastic, right out. Every now and then.

[B]

Every now and then. Every now and then. Not no regular. It's not a regular snack. But like, shit. Looking bare.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Let me just get me a little slice of cheese. Then you get all this, like, oh, this is cheese product. This ain't even real cheese.

[A]

But here's a. I feel like some of that stuff, though, too. It's tough. Cause it's like. I see it both ways. Cause it's like, yeah, this stuff is not real, but this is all that other people Knew to get.

[B]

You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? My mom and them was buying Miracle Whip, right?

[A]

For sure.

[B]

And then you get older, you like, this is not mayonnaise.

[A]

It's just.

[B]

It's a whole nother thing.

[A]

And it's not good.

[B]

It's not good.

[A]

I always thought Miracle Whip was bad.

[B]

It's got a little sweetness to it.

[A]

Yeah, I'm not into it.

[B]

It's like a dressing.

[A]

It's too much, like. Even with, like, Vienna sausages. I remember, like, you crack that can of vinegar sausages, you don't even cook them, bro. I had a lot of that. And I'm like, oh, bruh, this meat just exists, man.

[B]

Listen, bro, for eternity. Cause our people had us on military diets, bro. You know what I'm saying? We was, like, real. We was eating MREs like a motherfucker.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Rations rationing. Because, look, I'm telling you, I'm a grown man, bro. I seen a nigga cooking Vienna sausage, and I was like, you could cook that shit. This nigga is different. He also from. He's from Dominica.

[A]

Okay, okay, okay. That makes sense.

[B]

Dominica or Dominica? Dominica. He from the original island.

[A]

Dominica. Them two different places.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? That's two. That's two. Okay, so I'm thinking about Dominica. Yeah, but this is OG before they merge with Haiti. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Separate places. Yeah.

[B]

It's a lot going on down there. Yeah, they hiding folks down there.

[A]

For sure.

[B]

They hiding down there.

[A]

What time? That's crazy, bro.

[B]

Y' all doing a lot.

[A]

Nah, that cat overzealous, you know what I'm saying?

[B]

He too big for a bridging, bro.

[A]

It's a lot, man. And, bruh, this y'. All. This, y'. All. It's just crazy to see a cat do so much just. Cause a cat roasted him, bruh.

[B]

You see what I'm saying?

[A]

This all is. Cause that cat Obama was like, this cat not gonna be president. He's like, well, I'mma show you. Yeah, I'mma be mean. I don't know, bro. Insecurity be ruling people hearts, man. And that's not crazy. But, nah, nah, that. The Vienna sausage thing is crazy, bro. I think they just ate so much stuff.

[B]

That potted meat and a cracker that just.

[A]

But I get it, though. Cause, I mean, that's how they came up.

[B]

And then they just passed it off to us.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

And so, like, me, I'm like, for when not Knowing n was cooking the Vienna sausage. Cause I'm just open that bit. Pour the little water out, Knock them hoes down. Yeah, we knocking them down. I don't even need no crackers or nothing.

[A]

Yeah, it depends, bruh. I ain't gonna lie.

[B]

Potted meat is for the ice cream. But, you know, potted meat is, like, mushed up Viennas.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So then you get your little nice spread your nice little cracker. This what we getting. This is what we sitting down somewhere.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Vienna sausages is for niggas on the go.

[A]

But you know something? My folks specifically, we didn't go big on Spam.

[B]

I've never been a Spam.

[A]

It was big viena. Specifically.

[B]

Yeah, Specifically in my household. I never had Spam before. I'm gonna keep it a real.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I had it when I got older. But another one, I was on that Chef Boydee ravioli. I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened to the ravioli downfall, bruh.

[B]

It fell off. I thought ravioli would be much when I got older, for sure. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

For sure. Growing up, we was eating that ravioli.

[B]

Listen, I'm gonna tell you the type of nigga I am. I'm taking a ravioli and a beef Roni. I'm putting that in one pot.

[A]

Nah, you tough.

[B]

You tough. I'm feeling Italian as fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm thinking I'm really Italian. I'm throwing a little cheese on it.

[A]

One pot. Parmesan cheese.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I'm thinking I'm really doing something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And my mama used to be like, you wasting food is what you're doing.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's one can per person. You can't double can.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Double can. Tripp double cannon. Under somebody else roof is. Yeah, it's a lot, bruh.

[B]

This how you know that? The. This how you know? Like, that ain't real, though. That shit ruining all your Tupperware for sure.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

That's a chemical agent in there.

[A]

Absolute. Any, bruh. I think most of the stuff. Most of the stuff. I mean, maybe I think some of the canned fishes are good. Cause they just in olive oil and they seal it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I think most of the potted meats, bro, it's some science going on.

[B]

It's some science, and I don't know

[A]

enough to know if I'm right, but I feel like some of that science

[B]

might not be good. It's A taste. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, you think about getting older, having real Italian food, and really tasting that red sauce. And then you go back and you think about what Beefaroni red sauce tastes like. We talking about two different things for sure.

[A]

That was a big, big point for me, too, was going to an Italian restaurant, and I'm like, oh, y' all don't even ravioli like this. It's not even. How y' all raviing the way y' all raviing. Y' all ain't putting the meat in the thing.

[B]

No, y' all not. And that's what fucked me up. Yeah.

[A]

That blew my mind.

[B]

When I was like. I was like, why everybody going, cheese, ravioli? Where's the meat?

[A]

They don't do that.

[B]

The Chef Boyardee meat on top of

[A]

meat on top of whatever.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But they not stuffing the thing.

[B]

Chef Chef was like, I'm remixing this shit. Ain't no cheese in this bit. Just me.

[A]

And he had the right idea, bro.

[B]

And he had a great idea.

[A]

People be knowing how to sell to Americans, bruh.

[B]

Especially niggas.

[A]

That's real. Like, he was like, hey, man, take the cheese out there, put the meat in there. Y' all watch. I bet he got pushback. I bet Cat like, bro, we can't

[B]

put no meat in it.

[A]

We in a push.

[B]

First of all, this disrespectful.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, let's start doing that. They not putting the fingers together. And he like, listen, trust me, man. He pushed through. And then Chef boy, he on the front of the COVID man.

[B]

Man, they put that nigga in the game, bro. I'm Chef Boyardee, nigga.

[A]

Exactly. That's me. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I don't even know no other Italian shit other than Emerald.

[B]

I don't even know no other boy. Rds. That's how real that get.

[A]

That's hard.

[B]

He retired the name. Yeah. It's like a Jersey.

[A]

But I was thinking about that. With them big. With them with, like, big last names, you never know a regular person who got that last name who not a

[B]

part of the family.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

We don't know, like, no recreational Disneys.

[B]

Never. You never gonna meet one.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

I don't even think you allowed to.

[A]

I want, like, dude, what happened? Like, Koch. Koch. What's the Koch? Yeah, the vacuum people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, you never meet, like, a person who just, like, got a. Well, that's not true. I know some broke gates.

[B]

Well, that's some n shit though.

[A]

Yeah, that's true. I know some gates.

[B]

See, he ain't just. He ain't brand a product. He just behind Microsoft. You know that his shit got you.

[A]

Gotcha, gotcha.

[B]

But you ain't never like, bro, I remember first time I met a white girl, her last name was Abercrombie. I said, oh, you with the gene people.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And she like, you know what? Yes.

[A]

What?

[B]

She was like, it's like. But they like my second cousins.

[A]

Oh, she not close enough too.

[B]

I'm not like in there. In there. That's crazy. That's fucked up, man.

[A]

That's all bad.

[B]

When one relative over, you'd have been mad. You wouldn't even be in middle school with me, bruh.

[A]

I feel like in min.

[B]

And I feel like she was lying.

[A]

She probably was lying. But at minimum, bro, if I'm an apple crumbie, I need that 50% discount, bro.

[B]

Just fuck with me.

[A]

I need to walk in there and be like, off the family. Off the family.

[B]

Yeah. If you Fitch la familia. You feel me?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Ooh, the Fitch is up.

[A]

Absolutely. My thing is if your last name Aeropostale in general.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You should have some sort of benefit for such a ridiculous last name.

[B]

It's a crazy last name, first of all. Second of all.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Second rate preppy clothes.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

You see what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You from Atlanta. So you remember.

[A]

I remember this. I was a part of it.

[B]

You. You. You got involved with it.

[A]

I got involved. I'm not. I'm not gonna tell a lie. I know everybody cool. And they be like, oh, n. I never wore that bullshit.

[B]

I got involved with that.

[A]

I was involved, bruh.

[B]

I want you to get this on camera. This is a contact my. Look at his last name. Einstein. Nah, it's a Einstein. Yeah. Grandfather.

[A]

His great.

[B]

His great grandfather is Albert Einstein. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's copyright infringement. We gotta holler, buddy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But yeah, I got involved with the black boy. White boy swag. I was all in on that. So you gotta think I'm going into the Hollister.

[A]

Oh, for sure.

[B]

And Aeroposta was really like this. Your last. This a last ditch effort.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like to really get in on the wave because they going 2 for 20 on the shirts.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The jeans really don't hit the same.

[A]

For sure.

[B]

But everybody can't afford. You don't realize how expensive Hollister, Abercrombie and Fitch is until you Walk in that bit.

[A]

And I had. It was a moment when that time was happening. That's when I was transitioning from overweight to obese.

[B]

Hmm.

[A]

So towards the back half, I could only really get the American Eagle. You did. Or the Aeropostale. Cause the Abercrombie, Finch, and Hollister, they

[B]

were strict, very strict on that weight.

[A]

They were like, hey, man, they ain't

[B]

got nothing above a.38 in there.

[A]

All that heavy set stuff, you gotta take that down to the Macy's. Jack, I don't know what you think we got the mannequin got abs in here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Nah. Yeah. You take your shit to Ralph Lauren.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

That's your guy.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I ain't gonna lie. That boy, Ralph Lauren, he gonna look out for the big and the tall.

[A]

Oh, for sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He always have.

[B]

Always have. If I see a nigga that's overweight and he got that polo on, I'm like this man with taste right here.

[A]

Because you know what it is? They was big on the 3xb or the. Or the. Or the 3x, like t or B, which is big, is like. It come a little wider. And I respect that, bruh.

[B]

I respect. I was checking out some of y' all stand up last night.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

From about a year ago.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Cutting some weight, my boy.

[A]

I'm losing. I'm trying, bro. I be off and on.

[B]

You cutting.

[A]

I was juicing, though. I ain't gonna lie.

[B]

I mean, look good, man.

[A]

I was juicing. I was on the Zimp. I was on the Z. I was on the Z for about. Nah, but I was on the zip a year ago, though. I was on the zip for about.

[B]

That's good. You ain't lose all your face.

[A]

Nah, I had to get off of it, bro. But I was on it. I was on it for six weeks, then I stopped. And then now I kinda, like, just try to make better decisions. I ain't like. I ain't going crazy, but I might go to the gym a little bit or be like, all right, I'm not gonna eat all that in one day.

[B]

Yeah. Tight shit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. You know, I'mma tell you, it's easy to get outta hand, bro.

[A]

For sure. I'm on the road.

[B]

It's easy to get outta hand on the road.

[A]

I'm gone. Four, five, I'm gone. I mean, I do, like, maybe two, three cities. Sometimes four cities a week, bruh.

[B]

Geez.

[A]

I'm not near no kitchen.

[B]

Yeah. Nah.

[A]

So I'm like.

[B]

And more recently, comedy clubs have stepped up they entree game.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

But it used to just be bar food. Yeah, you can't live off bar food.

[A]

Can't, can't.

[B]

Chicken wings and burgers and mozzarella sticks. Like that shit just ain't good for you, bro.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I had to learn how to like make on the road food a little healthier.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is just like portion control or

[B]

like you gotta get in the air fryer game too.

[A]

But I'm on the road flying, though. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

So sometimes what I'll do now is like, I might go, like I was saying earlier, I might go. Instead of eating bad all day. I know I' e bad at the club during the day, I might go to a grocery store, get like a salad and some of them canned sardines and be like, that's just gonna be it. And then after the show, I'm going

[B]

crazy tonight, but I'm getting me a thousand cows tonight.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I'm gonna get 500.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I got a question for you though. So like when you was driving, when you was driving trucks, right? So you started, you was doing the trucks and of course, you know, I seen this. So you was doing trucks and you was talking, doing videos.

[B]

I was just popping my shit and

[A]

then it just escalated.

[B]

It just went so crazy. TikTok is really a place where like an individual get popular. So like, for me, it's my whole aesthetic. People used to me talking in front of my truck and I'm talking about the same shit I would talk about on the podcast. But I guess it felt like a little bit more personal. I think the way the TikTok extended just kind of feel like a facetime.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

People really liked it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So they connected with it. And then I was like, well, how do I make this a long form? Because, like, I understand like social media fame versus being a YouTube creator is two different worlds for sure. If you can get it going on YouTube, you really that boy. Yeah, bro, you can have it going for me. Yeah, you can build a career off YouTube for sure. Yeah. So I was like, I want to get in the YouTube game. And then that's when I started the pod. I started audio only just to kind of get used to being on mic and woota woo woo, and then carrying the show for 30 minutes as opposed to like I was just posting two three minute clips. You Know what I'm saying? That's a crazy jump. You know what I'm saying? That's like, I gotta. That's like, in your world, I got a type 5 and they be like, yeah, can you do a half hour?

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

It's like, God damn. Off the rip.

[A]

Yeah, bro.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? So I just work my way up. But I'm. And I still. Every now and then we'll make like, little personal videos on TikTok. But I think I got so much content coming out from the podcast that it's just like, I can hit it three times a day and not miss a beat.

[A]

That's hard, bruh. I want bruh. One thing. The solo podcast, bruh. That's hard work.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That ain't easy. Like, just talking. Talking through your ideas by yourself. And then of course, you got your people so you could interact with them. But that junk, that junk, people don't know how hard that is to like the solo thing.

[B]

And then two, it's like, ain't nobody giving me these ideas.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Ain't nobody giving me some talking points. So I gotta be in tune with what's going on.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

And I gotta, like, learn how to kinda take my, you know, genuine ideas and genuine talking points that may not have nothing to do with current events and make it palatable for like a 30, 45 minute.

[A]

Yeah, bro.

[B]

Cause I don't wanna just be spitballing show.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I can't just be like, well, I'm working on this idea. You know, I've been thinking about this thing, but I'm gonna just think through it with y' all on the spot. It don't work like that.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Cause people are like, this boring. Yeah, that's boring.

[A]

But I will say, like. But that take. And one thing I think with the podcast and being public and being opinionated, I think it's very commendable to not be. Not worrying about first being perfect. That's something I know me and my comedians, we struggle with. Like, we want everything to be exactly how we want it to be, and we want it to be perceived exactly in one way and just allowing it to just exist. That doesn't take a lot. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that doesn't take a lot. Cause it's like you throwing stuff out there. Cause people just. People just look at it like, oh, it's just some person talking, but they don't know that. Like, it's care put into it.

[B]

And so I production you Know, I appreciate it. I've been hip to your comedy for quite some time, man.

[A]

I appreciate it.

[B]

I just was like. First thing I did was call Ronnie. Like, man, you know this nigga Mandel.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And I was like. He was like, yeah, man. Mandel Young N. You know me. You know me. I'm always tied in with you, you know? And he was like, he from out here. I'm like, yeah, that why I called you. Cause, like, I ain't never seen him perform here, but I'm hip to him now. That, like, he doing all these podcasts. I was like, bro, this dude funny as fuck. Like, what's up with bro? He was like, man, they got him. He in la. They got him. He taking off. And, you know, so it was good for me. Cause I seen you a question like that Zack Fox. You know, I seen you with Zack. Y' all chemistry is crazy. But then it's also like, naturally, my mama told me, like, langston, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you being a Z looper girl sweatshirt. Well, I was like, bro, this shit just makes sense. Cause, like, that big fun network, bruh.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

That shit.

[A]

Thank you, bro.

[B]

I said. I was like. I said, I ain't gonna lie. Shout out, Genius.

[A]

For real, man. Hey, bruh. Hey. One thing. I will say. That junk. I gotta give credit to Zach. Cause I told Zach that idea maybe almost two years ago, and I just told him it was a while where he was touring Stand up and I was opening for him. And then I told him, like, two years ago, and then he just. He never let it go. Like, every time he would introduce me to a new person, we just hang around. He'd be like, bruh, you got to do this idea you was talking about.

[B]

It's so funny, bruh. I said to myself, when I'm watching it, I was like, this is a person that really understand theyself, but also, like, understand comedic tropes. Like this janky ass manager.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Like, we got big ideas, but it's like, he ain't gonna make none of this shit happen.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And so, like, I still say this shit all the time. Like, my homeboy be talking about anime. I be like, bro, you think you interesting. Cause you like Japan. Like, that shit just funny, bro.

[A]

Yeah, I appreciate it.

[B]

But it's like knowing Zach, like, me and Zach hung out one night in Philly, just randomly. We was just booked at the same show I was hosting. He was doing a dj. And then we just kicked it and like, dog just so naturally funny. Yeah, bro, he a real character. Like, he out there.

[A]

Nah, he crazy.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? So of course I'm hip to what you was doing. Stand up wise. The. You funniest shit on a podcast for sure. But when you was with old boy, the white dude, he reached out to me too, when he was doing the grilling.

[A]

Oh, Alec, Alec.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, okay, I see. I was like. It made me happy that it's like, yeah, you from Atlanta, but you found where your comedy landed.

[A]

I just do whatever, bruh. Honestly, I feel like I be trying to have fun, bruh. And so I always like, you know, I'm a little. I could be a little quirky or whatever, you know what I'm saying? I just be trying to have fun. So I be like, I be doing whatever, bruh. Like, I don't really. I try. I used to be thinking real hard about it, like, oh, who am I appealing to? And whatever. And then now I just start doing whatever's funny to me.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

I'mma just do that in atlant, bruh. Yeah, the Internet is huge.

[B]

You know, it's as big as the world is.

[A]

For sure. For sure. And I'mma just do whatever. But yeah, bro, them projects be fun. That's the one thing I will say I'm starting to learn. Cause I feel like with, like you were saying with Ronnie, I was just some dude doing standup in Atlanta for like, the last. I'll be 10 years of standup in two weeks. And so, like, I was just some dude in Atlanta just doing standup, and comics knew me from just being around. And then maybe the last two, three years is when stuff's starting to shake

[B]

up a little bit.

[A]

And so now I be like, learning just to. I just be doing the project. But now I'm learning like, oh, people actually watching the stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know if you had that moment when you was on TikTok where you, like, first it just feel like you just doing junk and then it start to. Your real life start to be different. Yes. Cause I'm like, I'm just doing standup and stuff and nothing happened. And then like, oh, like, people was watching the stuff. So now I have a responsibility to that. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Yeah, well, to keep pursuing it and to like, step up, you know. I think my favorite thing about the position I'm in now is, like, how quickly I can go from idea to execution.

[A]

That's fine. Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Because even for you, maybe three years ago, bitfund, network don't work.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

But because you gained the momentum, and, you know, people watching, when you do something like that, it just, like, it hit different because the audience is there, but the guests are perfect for what you doing too. Yeah, man, that shit just hit different, bro. That shit's hilarious.

[A]

But even just learning, like, oh, we did the first episodes. And then I'm like, all right, I'm gonna go on the road for four months. And then everybody's like, what? The rest of the episodes? And I'm like, oh, no.

[B]

Yeah. I was waiting for it to keep going. I ain't gonna hold you.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. I'm like, oh, I ain't. I didn't process it. I gotta keep doing it.

[B]

This was a thing. Shout out.

[A]

I'm like, I just did the episodes, and then I went on the road, and I'm like, oh, I'm supposed to keep doing the stuff.

[B]

Yes, yes, yes.

[A]

But you don't process, like, oh, like, people like this stuff now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So now I gotta do it.

[B]

Cause I'm like, I'm subscribed to BigFun Network. Where's the shit?

[A]

I know I recorded, like, two more, but I gotta edit. But now I'm. But now my brain is like, all

[B]

right, well, I'm pitching myself as a guest now, bruh.

[A]

We can do it.

[B]

We can do it. I'm in la.

[A]

We can do it.

[B]

I'll be in LA next month, too.

[A]

But we could do it. But I don't want to talk about it, though, because I don't want to reveal.

[B]

No, for sure.

[A]

Cause I already thought. I already thought of ones I would do, so, like.

[B]

Yeah, but.

[A]

Yeah, but I would.

[B]

No, do your thing, though.

[A]

No, I have to do the.

[B]

I'm telling you, bro.

[A]

I have to build it. It took a while to build the little.

[B]

It's perfect, though. Because here's the thing. This is the world that we in now. Like, the production.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's simple production, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I want to ask you this. How funny. How hard is it to be funny on camera? Like, you are naturally a funny person. Right. But how funny is it to translate something where it's like, we are setting out to be funny and then it actually is funny? Like, how hard is. What's that balance?

[A]

Like, it's difficult, bruh. Cause, like, I feel like. I feel like with standup, it kind of pacify you a little bit, because you know immediately if it was funny or not, the crowd either laughed or they didn't. But when it's on camera, you kind of like, you gotta rely on your sensibility. And so that was the first time with that project where I was like, no. The first time I made something. Okay, here you go. So what made me really start being like, oh, I gotta kinda trust the instincts a little bit more and not just be relying on what the crowd says is funny or not is Lil Daddy. Because I swear, that first Lil Daddy episode with the Manny State.

[B]

Bro, listen, bro.

[A]

I remember watching the episode before we put it out and being like, I thought it was all right. You know what I'm saying? I ain't even think nothing of that. I was like, let's go. Cool. Go be on the duck swim. Like, you know, did we put that junk out? Cass was. Cass was repeating it.

[B]

It's so funny.

[A]

That jump was crazy. And so then I'm like. It kind of changed my mind where, like, okay, like, my ideas came good. But then I did this Christmas special, and that jump was weak. That junk was too trash. Everybody hated it. It was trash. So then you start being like. You start weaving in, like, being like. It's a little bit of a gamble, but you, like, figure it out.

[B]

You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, I think it's like, for me, you just gotta put this shit out of.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Cause it's like, even if you don't, like you said with Lil Daddy, like, it's all right, but it's a hit. Yeah, right. The Christmas thing might be something that you, like, man, this shit gonna go. And it flopped.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's like, really, regardless of how you feel about it, you just gotta put it out. Cause ultimately the audience decide.

[A]

But you know what it is, though, when you. So I don't know if people talked about this a lot, and I guess this podcast ain't as silly as I was supposed to be, but.

[B]

Oh, yeah, this your world.

[A]

But I will say one thing. I learned in standup that we people who started standing up, maybe like pre2020, you was kind of taught to be very guarded in your jokes. And, like, you kind of build your jokes in the crowds that you do in the rooms, and then you kind of release it seldomly when they perfect. And I think the culture of creating on the Internet is the exact opposite, where it's like. Where it's like you just tossing it out there without any regard, and then you start to See what's working and kind of direct yourself that way. And so I feel like it's taken all of us who have been doing it for a while to let go of some of that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Yeah. It can get a little archaic where you like, you just stuck in your old ways. Well, I think anybody respect the craft of comedy? Like, you know, I'm funny on the show, I have funny moments, but I'm just naturally like that how I grew up. We just joke, we play around. You gotta have a sense of humor.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So. But then people be like, you should do stand up. I'm like, boy, that's a craft. Yeah, that's craft. I'm not just finna oh, I'm popular. Let me go get on stage. Well, that is not how that shit work. Nah, you will embarrass yourself doing that shit.

[A]

That just unwise. And I feel like it's a tough predicament too, because no matter where, even if you was to try to do it the right way, people gonna be like, that's deontay Kai. And then they gonna be judging it based if you killed a bomb and stuff.

[B]

But yeah, I just think like, and I tell my team this, like, it's not really an aspiration of mine, but I fuck with comedians. So yeah, it's good to. For me, it's like anything I can't do. It's good to know the people who do it well though. Cause then you could just respect the craft and you don't gotta get involved with it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I remember it was like I was listening to, I was rapping at one point and I heard this Young Thug song. I forgot what song it was, but he was just going so crazy. And I was like, I'll never be able to like what I do and what this dude doing light years apart. And I was like, it wasn't even about being discouraged. It was just about being real. Like, I'm never gonna be this, hey, this nigga is hilarious, bruh.

[A]

So like, that's what made you start rapping.

[B]

You heard a Thug song, it was like a collective of things. Like things was just happening.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Everything in my life was like, stop rapping, man. I had a studio session where we did like a 10 hour block. And then the computer crashed. I lost all the music. I had just worked on the last 10 hours. And then I heard this. I think the song was called Groot Home. It was with Thug and Future.

[A]

And I was like, man, it's over with.

[B]

I don't really think I'm gonna ever be this. You know what I'm saying, right?

[A]

I tried to make beats. I had that same experience.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was trying to make some beats. I started playing some beats and people were like, this noise, bruh. Like, this is a culmination of sounds that are unattractive. This is hurting me. I truly entertain listening to this. And that jump blew my mind, bro. I'm like, oh, I'm trash.

[B]

You just over here making noise, bro.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm over here. This is like real shenanigans that LeBron meme with that beat.

[B]

Like, LeBron is a funny nigga too, man.

[A]

Bruh, that joint hilarious, bro.

[B]

Yeah, man, I think it's great though, because it's like you failed at something.

[A]

Oh, bro, I failed at a bunch of jobs.

[B]

Same, though.

[A]

Like, I'm not a person.

[B]

Hella shit.

[A]

Like, I tried a lot of stuff. I mean, Castana was something I always loved, but I'm a person who done dropped the ball on some job, bruh. On a lot of things, bruh. So I just happen to be consistent in something. But that beat making them beats was weak. I didn't get it.

[B]

You just wasn't talking about nothing, bro.

[A]

The beats was. I'm talking about all bad, bro. Yeah, I had this thing called a machine. It was like a thing. I worked at McDonald's in high school and I got a little job in college. It was a thing called a machine. And my cousin, My cousin Jordan, he does music and stuff. I had bought the beat thing he had. And I'm up there, I'm making nothing but noise, man. You know how when you start being bad at beats? I was so bad at the beats that I started being like, nah, I'm just doing different genres. Like, they like. I'm like, no. Y' all so stuck in hip hop, y' all. Broaden y' all brain. What about this electronic. Y' all just don't understand.

[B]

Hey, listen, bruh, why when a n stuck at song, he just don't think nobody understand.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, when n be putting out, like weak ass comedy sketches, they be like, y' all just don't understand comedy.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like, dude, this shit ass.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

This shit did bad, bro.

[A]

That's my favorite. I ain't gonna lie. I done did it before. Yeah, I done been to. I done been to. Nah, y' all just don't understand. Y' all wouldn't get it. Y' all don't watch this type of stuff.

[B]

Y' all not.

[A]

Y' all not intelling y' all brain,

[B]

like, palate not expensive enough. You just don't understand. I ain't gonna hold you like, I used to be real. Really woke with the raps.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You see what I'm saying?

[A]

We all had that phase, bruh.

[B]

I was really woke with the raps. I was mixing up some gangster shit. But I had a message.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And niggas are listening to it. Be like, yeah, that shit hard. I be like, man, y' all nigga just don't understand this shit.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Y' all don't get it. Y' all don't get it. I'm from the future.

[A]

That's the thing.

[B]

And then it was like, maybe I'm not from the future. Maybe I'm weak.

[A]

Yes, bruh. This right here is something that took me a long time. Cause I. Cause look, in Atlanta, I done did a lot of bombing. And at first, you could be like, they just don't. I'm. My twisted mind. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

I'm such a genius.

[A]

I'm such a. They just don't understand. And it's like, nah. Like this. Y' all just weak, bruh.

[B]

This shit weak, bruh.

[A]

It's not funny.

[B]

Like, it is for the common man.

[A]

Yeah. Like, Ronny Jordan went up.

[B]

You the common man shouted.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Why you trying to act like you not a common man, bro? Niggas is not like you not being, like, methodical and, like, masterful.

[A]

You weak. Absolutely.

[B]

And it's okay.

[A]

You see that with the music, with the rappers, when they be like, nah, I'm really just a rock star. It's like, hey, man, we all seen that same Parrymore music video.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You not that before we went to school. It ain't nobody. Everybody get the references here.

[B]

No, we get it, but you not. System of a downshot.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You a weak rapper.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You said. Well, you. What you was gonna say about Ronnie.

[A]

Oh, no, I'm saying, like, bro, you would go. Cause, you know, in Atlanta, you might go to Cats, go to whatever. And Ronnie went up, went crazy. And then you might go after me like they didn't understand me. It's like, nah, bruh. I just think that it's some better quality stuff going on.

[B]

On the stage, bro. Yeah. I went to one of. You know, I won't name names or whatever, but I went to go see Ronnie perform. Because Ronnie is hilarious.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And somebody went on before him, they was just eating. And, yes, it was from the time to the time they left the stage, and they had 30 minutes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I said, man, this is. This is tough.

[A]

It depends, though, bro. Cause sometimes people be having a bad day.

[B]

Well, but I could tell.

[A]

But you could tell.

[B]

Very, like, practice material.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

And I was like, oh, you believe in this?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And ain't nobody. And you know what? Correct me if I'm wrong. Wouldn't it be better to be booed than the niggas just be quiet and look at you?

[A]

It's tough, bro. I ain't gonna lie. I've gotten that booed before. And I think the worst version of it for me is not the quiet or the boo, but we start talking amongst ourselves at Monticello, you know? Monticello, Marietta. I'm up there one time. I mean, I'm up there stinking it up, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm doing terrible. The crowd just decided that we not gonna allow you to ruin our good night. We have dressed up. We have called a babysitter. Therefore, we go entertain ourselves so that it wasn't even. No longer, like, we not enjoying this. It's like, no, we refuse to not enjoy this night.

[B]

No. Like, fuck you.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You don't exist to us anymore.

[A]

It just turned into a restaurant.

[B]

You just, like.

[A]

They just talking to each other. People ordering stuff loud.

[B]

And this the thing, bro. Embarrassment. It raised that body temperature.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it was hot. It was hot.

[B]

It was hot.

[A]

The DJ almost pat me on the back. DJ over there looking at me like, hey, man, like, one thing, you know, when you bond bad is when people compassion come out. Cause there's a first level. There's that first level of like, oh, you suck. You trash, man. But then when you doing, like, horrible, people start being like, you strong, man. Nah, but you was up there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They trying to find way. Cause they know they want to get the last sentence in just in case you did actually kill yourself.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

They wanted the record to show what. He died.

[B]

I showed the nigga I was a good person that night.

[A]

They were like, he died. Well, I had told him he was.

[B]

I told him he showed up.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy.

[B]

Yeah. Listen, man, I think it's. Comedy is one of those things. It's like, in order to be good at it, you have to be absolutely bad at it for sure. And it's one of the Few professions where it's like, incumbent on you being bad in front of others.

[A]

Yes. But it varies too, though. Cause, yeah, for some people, I think being bad at it. Cause the vulnerability of being bad makes you better. But I also know some cats who just straight up, they never was bad.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

There are some people I've seen from the beginning, they just understood. Understood it. They could take care of the moment. But I wasn't one of them people. But it varies, bro.

[B]

How was it? How would you say on an individual people will understand? Like, I don't think people understand, like, the. I don't like thinking about Atlanta as, like this mythical place.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I do have this understanding that it's just such a different place. Cause, like, it is, right? You get literally no matter where you live. It's every type of nigga, though.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You see what I'm saying? Because you was a quote, unquote nerd when you growing up. But you also growing up in the city with, like, real gangsters and shit. And the funniest person you know is a criminal.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The most naturally just funniest dude or girl, they be on that dark side.

[A]

Yeah. I think. I do think Atlanta does have a particular existence that's not in other places. Cause like you said, because it's a black universe, you could be whoever you want to be. Where I feel like some people. Even if you're in a city where all the black people congregate in one part of town, then y' all have a specific identity. And then it's some people who grew up where they were fish out of water, where they was the one black person in their whole school, then they was the black guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They was perceived as that.

[B]

So now they represent blacks.

[A]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

I hate that word. This is so funny.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They start putting the S on.

[B]

They starting to put. Yeah, blacks.

[A]

Put the blacks on there. Yeah.

[B]

With the hard ass at the end. Not fucking with it.

[A]

Yeah. They always. You had that type of. But for us, it was just like everybody was just themselves.

[B]

You just be yourself. Well, also, too, for me, I grew up in Douglasville, but this is like. This is where niggas is leaving from Atlanta to start a better life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But that Atlanta shit is just so in you. You can't just move it.

[A]

But it. But I mean, honestly, bruh, it's right there, though. Honestly. Cause if you. Cause I grew up in southwest Atlanta. I was off campus. So we went to that. The walmart we went to was that one down on. On Thornton Road. Which is in Dung.

[B]

Exactly. So, like, my mama is from Dill Avenue.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

My grandmama, when we was growing up, stayed off Camelton. She stayed in the park at Lakewood. So Stanton, Dalo. That area.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then all my family is just. They encompass that area at this point. Just Southwest.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Right. And then a lot of my family stay on the south side, so. College Park, Riverdale.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So living in Douglasville, it was like. Well, the shit y' all talking about ain't unfamiliar to me. I'm just not from there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

But I be there, but I'm not from there. And I'm not. And I'm not trying to false claim that. But N do do that.

[A]

People do do that. Yeah.

[B]

Because, listen, I seen a video the other day. Niggas was. You remember Hood to Hood. You remember that? Yeah. Like them. Like them DVDs.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where niggas would be like, in my hood, I seen a N get killed right here. Right here on this car.

[A]

And they love that one.

[B]

They like that. So I seen a nigga doing a Hood to Hood. S. Video in Snellville, and I was like, come on, man. Why we doing this?

[A]

I feel like.

[B]

And they was like, we Snellville. N. You know, we ain't got no public transportation. You know what I'm saying? We working on it, though. We trying to get a bus out here, but we ain't like city niggas. I'm like, yeah. Cause y' all niggas are suburban, and that's okay.

[A]

But also, too, it's like you talking about speaking to your local representative. We ain't got public transportation. We going down to the meeting. It's like, yeah, that's good, man. I hope that works out for y'.

[B]

All. Stay involved.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? At local.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, no, no, no. Think global. At local. You know what I'm saying? You really doing that?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, like, bruh, like, they talking. But the way that they present. Like, they present the conversation, like they talking about some real gangster shit. Like, yeah, we ain't got no transportation. We can't move around like n. In the city. We ain't got no car.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Fucked up out here.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's Snellville. It's like. You know what I'm saying? It's not like. This ain't even the North. You know, the north is Gwinnett, all that. I'm like, bro, why is Y' all talking about Snellville like this.

[A]

That's odd, bro.

[B]

Listen, I was like, cut the cameras off, like.

[A]

Cause look, I'm right there. Technically, where I lived at is now considered city of South Fulton, but at the time, we was in APS system, and I wouldn't act like my neighborhood was, like, popping off, you know what I'm saying?

[B]

So crazy.

[A]

Cause people grew up with me and they be like, what are you talking about, bro? Like, we all stayed in houses, bruh. Like, that would be crazy.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? My parents are doing well for me.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, you know, like, listen, bro, my son. I feel like all little boys, especially black boys, fall in love with hip hop, fall in love with the culture. And, you know there's gonna be some mimicking that goes on. So, you know. You know my son go shiesty mask and all this and that. And so, like, I remember one day, he was just talking real hot, like, on the phone with him. Yeah, fuck, nigga.

[A]

Wooty woo woo.

[B]

I was like, hey, let me holler at you real quick. And I was like, walk out with me to the yard. And we went in the front yard. I was like, you see that? What's that called? That? He's like, that's a cul de sac. I said, yeah, this ain't no projects, man. You. I said, you on a fast track to being a fake ass nigga. That's actually worse.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I would rather you be a street nigga. That's like, dumb in a crash out. But you really from that. Then be smart and intelligent and cul de sac. And you pretending. I said, you can't do that with my last name. If you gonna do that, you gotta change your name.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Cause I said, bro, you. I said, this the thing. You gonna be a fake ass nigga. That's a cra. That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah, nothing.

[B]

This is wild. Take the shiesty off, go upstairs and do your homework.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

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[B]

You know what I'm saying? Because it's a little disheartening.

[A]

Cause it's not a dead end. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

See what I'm saying? In the hood, streets just stop.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

They just stopped developing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It go from road to woods. That's Atlanta, for sure. Suburb. They got a way for you to get up out of here.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's a cul de sac. It's a turnaround. It's a very nice environment. Yeah, it's very tough to have two story houses in the background. And you like, man, over here, like, how we living? It's like, bruh, can we stop that?

[A]

Yeah, but I think it's what you said, though. I think people wanna just like, they see the stuff on TV and they wanna identify and people wanna feel like they had some sort of experience that other people had. And I don't know, I be trying to just. I feel like I be trying to tell the truth. My mama be big on that. She be like, hey, man, I work

[B]

real hard, so, yeah, let's not do that.

[A]

Let's not. Yeah. You know?

[B]

Yeah, let's cut the bullshit.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Cause I remember, like, man, when I was a kid, bro, I was so obsessed with wrestling. My dad had one of the Counter Carters. Cause my dad was like. I grew up in Wilmington, North Carolina. So it's like an hour away from Myrtle Beach. So Black Bike Week is a big thing. We go out there every year. It's lit. My dad sometimes would just be like, y' all ain't trying to shit. I'm out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So he go, cal, quarter this 98. You know what I'm saying? Booties and bikes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I was like, I got an idea. I'm gonna set that camcorder up and I'm finna become a wrestler. I'm finna cut some promos. So I'm cutting promos. Like I'm into it with a nigga. Me and my partner. You know what I'm saying? I'm whatever I am. I'm whatever my wrestling name is. He him. And we cutting promos, we beefing with each other. And I just think about that, and I was like, yeah, I don't know why I sold drugs. I don't know why I did that. Like, why the fuck did I end up doing it? You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, of course I ain't growing. I ain't grow up how my son grew up. But my parents was working hard. They were trying to make something show you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? And just like anybody else, these some working class folks. You just get under the influence.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Of the bullshit.

[A]

That's what it is.

[B]

And ain't nobody there to, like, give you no reality check. Cause there's enough niggas around me struggling where they like, yes, come on over. Join the struggle with us.

[A]

Yeah. And I feel like I had a lot of cousins and stuff who would. Who made it very clear. Hey, bro, you're doing straight, you doing good. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Yeah, you're good.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I feel like. Cause you. I feel like maybe. Cause I have family and everybody. It was always very clear, like, what we're doing and what you doing are not the same thing.

[B]

It's not the same shit. And you do that. Yeah, we love that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Because wrestling, first of all, Monday night. It's on, bro.

[A]

Oh, for sure.

[B]

How old are you?

[A]

I'm 32.

[B]

Okay. I'm 35.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I watched every. I watched. So we. Monday night, Nitro and WWF Raw.

[A]

I was watching. So. I was so into wrestling, bruh. I feel like for most of my childhood, that was my personality.

[B]

No, for real.

[A]

Like, I feel like so much of my brain is shaped by Rakishi. Rakishi. Hardy Boys. Dudley Boys.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's all I used to, bro.

[B]

Listen, bruh. Too cool, bruh.

[A]

When they used to. When, buddy, I used. I mean, I was talking about this the other day, but the worm was me, bro. Listen, that was my whole existence.

[B]

Like, this is, like, when I go back and look at this. This is what I told my partner the other day. I say, look, bruh, you gotta realize, like, as a nigga, some of your biggest heroes was rednecks. These are the country's white boys in the world. But they just dancing.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm Saying they got niggas trick. He doing the worm. Yeah, but look at him in his face as a grown man. Redneck shawty.

[A]

I couldn't believe it when I, like, seen them when they was old. I'm like, oh, this, like, this a regular white dude.

[B]

This just a white dude, bro.

[A]

And they came out, and they literally came out like, making fun of black people, like. And I'm like, that's that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Nigga had on a durag and some shades. I'm thinking they popping. And then I get old. I'm like, oh, this some bullshit.

[A]

This brother name was Grandmaster Sexay. Grandmaster Sexay. Regular 40 year old. His name probably Bob Bob Thornton, you

[B]

know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? This probably a nigga named Greg.

[A]

Yeah, he grew up in Kenosha, Wisconsin type shit. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Vince McMahon said, We got an idea for you, man.

[B]

Yeah, man. You gonna team up, Rikisha. You gonna be niggas.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're gonna be hip hop. Hip hop guys. What do they call them? Rappers?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, rap. Vince McMahon. A sick nigga, bro.

[A]

Bro. What?

[B]

Cause listen, it wasn't until well into my adulthood.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That I looked at the undertaker like, that's just a white dude named Mark, man.

[A]

Yeah, Damn. For sure. I mean, bro, I mean, it was a point where, like, they had, like, they getting in caskets and stuff.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

[A]

I wonder what you think the bonus was for taking a stink face from Rakishi. Oof. Like, imagine coming to work at any job. Any job. And they say, hey, bro, today, you know that big old fella right there with that thong on? He gonna take his posterior. His posterior, and he gonna mush it in your face, Jack. And you like, oh, okay. And that's the promotion. Before this, before this, you never got on camera. They were like, man, you been working hard for two, three months. You work hard two, three months. They say, hey, man, today you a lucky day, man. You on the main show. You like calling your mom. You cry. Yeah, man, we got somebody twerk on your face, Jack. Yeah.

[B]

The biggest ass you ever.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, twerk on your face. And this gonna be at the end of the match. He done sweat it.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Matter of fact, we got some antibiotics for that pink eye. You go get.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you just have that, man.

[B]

And also, too, like, these niggas on the road, like, 340 days a year, bro.

[A]

What?

[B]

This same fit, bruh.

[A]

They can't be watching it.

[B]

They can't be washing it.

[A]

I mean, bro, even these details don't even matter. Regardless of any of it, bro, I don't even know. I'm even, like, trying to, like, get to a point where somebody can make peace. Regardless of any of it. This big old cat about to stuff his butt in your face.

[B]

Yeah, man.

[A]

And everybody gonna be like, yeah.

[B]

And n. Like, ah.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, first of all, this. The thing. You in the corner, you.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. You gotta pretend.

[B]

You gotta pretend.

[A]

I'm dizzy. Yeah.

[B]

I'm hurt.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And this nigga turn around, hike his shit up, smack his ass. And that's coming right to your face, man.

[A]

That's all bad, bruh.

[B]

That's not a. That's not the career move. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

That ain't what you signed up for.

[B]

When you told your people that I'm working for Vince McMahon, bro, I'm on WWE, they probably like, man, he finally made it happen. His dreams. Imagine this. It's your big break. We putting you on the main car tonight.

[A]

You don't steroid.

[B]

You know who you going against? Goldberg. And he's 26 and 0 right now.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Oh, I'm finna get white.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

I'm just going out there to get hurt.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

I don't even know how long I'm being a ring. He's not no great wrestler.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, as we reflect, he was pretty stiff.

[A]

Oh, for sure.

[B]

He was hurting this.

[A]

He whooping cats.

[B]

He whooping you. He don't got. First of all, this is a failed linebacker.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So he goes straight from NFL to wcw, and all he doing is tackling. Nah. And then putting you up in that air.

[A]

He putting you up there for that thing. For that.

[B]

For that jackhammer.

[A]

The jackhammer.

[B]

Yeah. It's over with, bruh. It ain't nothing you could do.

[A]

That's what I'm saying, bro. People be having hard. Cause, like, you did a lot of press. You got swole.

[B]

It's a lot of work that go into a nigga putting his ass in your face, bro.

[A]

What? That's all bad.

[B]

That's not good, bro.

[A]

That was one of the worst ones. And then my favorite was the people who was like, okay, we doing hardcore matches. They like what that is. Oh, man, you just go get. You go get hit in the face with a Light bulb.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I mean. Oh, you can't wrestle that well, man. Don't worry about it, man. We gonna electrocute you.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. All good.

[A]

Don't even worry about it.

[B]

Look, look. Tonight they gonna rock bottom you on a bed of thumbtacks. It's nothing.

[A]

It's nothing. My favorite. That's when you knew I would be scared. Cause I noticed back in the day, all the hardcore people, they would be wearing jean shorts. And now that I know from the documentary, they don't. Everything is designed so I would be so scared if I went to work. They said, all right, man, we about to pick your outfit. One dude get the briefs.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Other dude get the tights. You getting the jean shorts, man. Eli, get ready for that barbed wire.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Go ahead and get ready to be

[B]

thrown off a ladder.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Because here's the thing.

[A]

Hospital night.

[B]

As a child and as a fan, this is the most exciting shit of all time as an adult. Health insurance.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

401k.

[A]

They can't even get it.

[B]

Retirement. Yeah, you can't. Cause you quite literally putting your body on the line. I'm saying that for my entertainment.

[A]

Yeah. Wrestlers have. They can't even get health insurance. Cause they nature of their job, bruh.

[B]

Bro. Cause you could die. Like let's say Matt. Let's say Joe Hardy, he go, I'mma go swan tombon. That what I'm gonna do. And I missed the whole table alive. Crack my spine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now I'm paralyzed for life with no insurance. Yeah. The opioids is finna do their job for sure. We on opioids now.

[A]

Hey, and here's the thing that I think about the most now, where like them wrestlers would be retiring 50, 60, which means it's cats who was our age. Slamming. Yeah, bro. If I get slammed right now, I'm out for a month, Bro. If somebody was to come in here right now and be like, hey, I got a suplexing, man. Now, first I'm gonna try to fend them off. But let's say this undertaker, this account, unless I got a pistol, it is what it is.

[B]

Yeah, it is what it is. I'm out for a month, bruh. He's seven feet tall, bruh.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. I'm out for a month.

[B]

I'm finna chok slam you through this table.

[A]

Duh.

[B]

I'mma tell you something. I ain't gonna be able to move for a week. It's over with I'm 35, bro.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

I cannot take a fall like that.

[A]

These cats was 40, 35, Ric Flair,

[B]

and them was, man. Ric Flair was clearly 50 something.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Still taking bumps for the love of the game.

[A]

That's what I'm like, bro. That's why cats would be like, oh, man, they was on drugs. I'm like, what you expect?

[B]

I mean, what else could you be on?

[A]

You gotta be on something.

[B]

Listen. And, you know, it's a harsh business. A lot of them cats weren't getting paid like that.

[A]

Not at all.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Everybody. Not the Rock.

[A]

Nah, for sure.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? And even niggas like Triple H, they tried to hit. They tried to go, movie. Everybody ain't built for that.

[A]

Everybody ain't got. I like when they tried to push somebody towards the movie and they'd do their own film. And the movie was always like, action, man. Like, it was loose plot.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

It was like.

[B]

Like, what was Triple H? He was the babysitter. Yeah, they have that garbage, like the

[A]

early John Cena movies where it's like, what's the movie? Oh, it's a jungle. It's a jungle and he gotta kill him.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You be like, nah. But why he killed him? They like, shut up.

[B]

Come on, man. Why you answering like, shut up. It's John Cena.

[A]

He got the gun, man.

[B]

It's John Cena.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[B]

Okay. John Cena is now superhero. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now he.

[B]

But like, the nigga, like, everybody can't be the Rock.

[A]

Nah.

[B]

Everybody can't be Batista.

[A]

Nah, nah.

[B]

Them guys come very few and far in between.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cause the Rock, it is what it is. If he on film, he gonna say the day.

[A]

Listen, man.

[B]

My boy gonna say it today.

[A]

People be talking about the Rock. Listen, man, I enjoy that. They letting that cat do whatever he want, bruh. They letting the Rock. They saying, have at it, man.

[B]

Bruh. Take as many steroids as you need to, bro.

[A]

It's a movie where the Rock got one leg. It's called Skyscraper. Go watch this movie. They letting him write whatever on the paper. It's a movie called Skyscraper. I can't remember how, but the Rock got one leg. He in a situation where he got a jump from. I believe it's either a crane or a helicopter to a skyscraper. He almost fall. He sliding down the side of the building. He catch himself by his prosthetic leg and climb into the building, bro.

[B]

Crazy, bro. Crazy, man.

[A]

Bro. Jump into a skyscraper, bro. First of all, I know it don't sound crazy enough, bro.

[B]

Listen, I'm gonna tell you something. This is instant death.

[A]

No question.

[B]

Cause the average person ain't clearing even 10ft in distance on a jump.

[A]

I want you to see this video.

[B]

And you want me to think that you jumping from building to building. First of all, this mean that you have to cover a block.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In the air, bruh. And land without damn near killing yourself. Hey, I'm gonna tell you who else got them a bag.

[A]

Who?

[B]

Jason Statham.

[A]

Oh, for sure.

[B]

Jason Statham for sure is. This is Jason Statham movie right here. Substitute teacher walk in. Hey, hey, how you doing? I'm the substitute.

[A]

This good impression. Go ahead, go ahead.

[B]

I'm rocking with this. And then it's like the students is like, oh, yeah. Fuck you. Wooty woo woo. Look, you may have had substitutes before. I'm not just your average substitute.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Whole time he there doing intel on the principal who tied in with the Russian mob.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He ex military. He on a covert mission. Jason Statham is the substitute. That's a Jason Statham.

[A]

Nah, for sure.

[B]

And guess what, bro? He gonna say the dope.

[A]

I'm watching all of them.

[B]

I'm watching every last one of them. Shout out the beekeeper. I'm watching that. I don't know why he keeping bees. I know. I'm watching it.

[A]

And I like that. In a lot of his movies, it's like, we need to move from this place to this place. He love a movie that involves. We gotta get over there.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

He probably worked in trucking. Jason Statham, before he was a famous actor. He was a truck driver. Cause he loved. We gotta get from that place to this place. And it's guns happen.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It's a lot of bullets.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

A lot of artillery.

[A]

That's as bad.

[B]

It's a lot of ammunition to get us from here to there.

[A]

Oh, for sure, bruh.

[B]

I'm fucking with that, though. Listen, bruh, we don't need the whole every move. Don't have to be, you know, deep and cerebral.

[A]

Cool.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Sometimes I just need Jason Statham to be the substitute.

[A]

Go ahead.

[B]

Explosion. So I can get 90 minutes out my day.

[A]

That's what I'm saying, bruh.

[B]

Cause that's a tight 90.

[A]

Yeah. And I like with his movies and a lot of them action movies. They not going too hard with it. Nah, they love to clean.

[B]

This is a.

[A]

This is 90 minutes. We'll holla at y', all, man.

[B]

Yeah, we'll see y' all next time.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They get up out of there.

[B]

Jason stay there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm the plumber.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Not just your average plumber.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm plumbing a house that's ran by a cartel.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

I'm here to. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm on a car. He always ex military.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm trying to get out to life.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He like.

[B]

And they keep pulling me back.

[A]

They keep pulling them back.

[B]

Yeah, man. They keep pulling them back.

[A]

They love pulling them back.

[B]

They love pulling nigga back into his old life, bro.

[A]

Bruh, I wanna. Before. Before I love this movie trend, but before I forget, bruh, you said you from Douglasville. I thought you were from Villarica.

[B]

I live out there now.

[A]

You live out there?

[B]

I just went further, bruh.

[A]

My grandmama used to work for Print Pack.

[B]

Oh, yeah? Yeah.

[A]

And that's all Villarica.

[B]

I saw that.

[A]

She was definitely, like, 30 years. I know by Print Pack and Villarica, bro. A lot of that area. Software, all of that, bruh.

[B]

Listen, bruh, I'm gonna tell you, like, growing up out that way, if a nigga get a job at Southwire, it's like that nigga got a master's degree.

[A]

Same thing with Print Pack, bruh.

[B]

Same thing. I'm already knowing.

[A]

Cause, bruh, when I got out of school, when I got out of college, my first job I applied for was Print Pack. And all of us who was applying had a relative who had worked there for a long time, bruh. And I ain't get the job, but.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But one thing I would.

[B]

I did the software job. I felt like I had failed at, like.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I was so. I was trying.

[B]

I'm like, shit, if I could just get on that software, I'm scratching.

[A]

Yeah. Cause that's how my grandma was. She was like, I'm telling you, get in there. Do your job.

[B]

Yeah. Do your 90.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Make it through probation. Get you a year.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Get your insurance. You gonna be good. They gonna take care of you.

[A]

And then with Douglasville, bro, a lot of people say whatever about Douglasville, but that Arbor Place mall, I used to go there, bruh.

[B]

I got involved with that.

[A]

I got a homeboy who swear by. He swear, the wing spot in our

[B]

place, mall, market, deli.

[A]

He said, that's one of the best wing spots in the entire. I guess we would call it Atlanta Metropolitan.

[B]

I can second that. I think everybody will second that. I don't know what they doing over there, but I know them wings specifically. Yeah, listen, I'm gonna tell you, it's been times I've gone to the mall just to get wings from Marketdale.

[A]

For sure.

[B]

I'm not shopping for show. I'm not window shopping. Yeah, I'm going to that market though.

[A]

Nah, I used to be in that arbor place, bruh. When I was. I would be in there getting the wings. I go to the movies. This is at high school. I would drive out there sometime.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then for some, when they started

[B]

doing that curfew, that was cause of us.

[A]

I know, I know y' all was probably in there acting up.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We was being real black in there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

We was being very nigger. Yes.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

A lot of nigga activity going on. Because N was at that bitch fighting for sure. And I don't know why, but you

[A]

know, people just be doing. When you young folks just be doing stuff.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Because listen, bro, ninth grade year, the mall, you go to the mall. Everybody there to go to the movies. You know what I'm saying? We going to movies. You got your little date.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You get there at like seven before the mall close. So you can walk around with your friends. Fraternize. 9 o', clock, mall shut down. Movie time. We kicking it. For whatever reason, N took that two hour fraternizing window and turned that into gang bang. Yeah, we gonna go to the mall and we gonna gang bang.

[A]

Let's do it.

[B]

We gonna make sure that them niggas that we don't fuck with ain't in there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that changed things.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Dang, bro. Yeah. I don't know. That movie theater was cool, bro. I remember when I was a. When I was a. Cause we would go there sometime, but honestly, before I would drive out there, of course, I live by Greenbrier.

[B]

Yeah. And we can go to Camp Creek. That's not a bad.

[A]

Camp Creek went bad. Camp Creek wasn't a bad idea, bro.

[B]

Wasn't a bad idea.

[A]

Now Camp Creek, I ain't going over there, bro.

[B]

I ain't fucking with it, man.

[A]

I ain't trying to get my windows bust, bruh. Listen, man, it's too much window breaking in camp.

[B]

Yeah, man, it's a lot going on over there.

[A]

But. But it's specifically that it is that I'm like, let's stop breaking the window.

[B]

It's big parking lots, minimum supervision.

[A]

Exactly. So much parking lots, bruh. Every time I'm in Camp Creek, I feel like I got my window bus one time, Camp Creek. And I know everybody. At least if you be going. Cause I would go to that JR Crickets right there. Every time you be like, dang, bro, they.

[B]

I'm gonna keep it real. When I'm in the city, I don't take nothing with me valuable. And I just leave my doors unlocked.

[A]

Yeah, the door unlock. The door unlock strategy do work.

[B]

It's almost as if if your door is unlocked, they kind of feel like you ain't got shit. Cause I don't.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

What you gonna take my title?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's all that's in there.

[A]

It just. Well, I think I be thinking sometimes though, bruh. I be thinking sometimes cats just like busting the window.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

And give them a thrill.

[A]

I think they like to do the.

[B]

It's a thrill. It's a thrill.

[A]

Cause I'm like, bro, it'd be like. It be like, you'll see. Run down 20 cars windows. But I'm like, you couldn't have had a thorough investigation, you know what I'm saying?

[B]

You ain't hit every throw, you ain't hit every handle. You just wanted to break somebody.

[A]

Shit. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

So listen, man, I be in Camp Creek though, tonight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

First night of taping.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Special.

[A]

I'm doing a taping of my first stand up little. It's like a little tape. I be using the word special. I know people get sensitive about that, but I'm using the word special. But I'm doing my first taping tonight at Second City. One today and then one tomorrow.

[B]

Yeah. Is it in Brooklyn still?

[A]

It's in Brooklyn.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We gotta move down the street.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, bet. Yeah, yeah. Cause when we moved from Oklahoma, we went to Brooklyn. Art House. Art show there.

[A]

How was that?

[B]

It was great, man. For real, man. New York showed crazy love.

[A]

They do, bruh. Yeah, they do.

[B]

It was the first time I got like a real standing ovation.

[A]

That's hard.

[B]

It was crazy. And what I was thinking is these are people that appreciate shows. Yeah, they really are showgoers. They reputation precede them. If you can do good here, you really do feel like. I'm good everywhere, bro. I'm straight. I Got a standing ovation in Brooklyn. I'm straight.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? But I'm excited to see tonight. I did see that you sent out an email about the dress code. I'm gonna let you know, brother, I did not pack for that.

[A]

I ain't tripping, bruh. I'm really not trippin'.

[B]

I'm gonna really show up just like this.

[A]

No, I ain't trippin', bruh. I feel like most of the people who said something about that, they was. We put a dress code. Cause we just wanted it to look fly on camera. But you know, the folks working on, they trying to be strict. Bitch, it's gonna be fine.

[B]

It's last.

[A]

Yeah, don't even worry about it.

[B]

If you'd have taught me a week ago.

[A]

Don't even worry about it. Don't even worry about it.

[B]

Cause you know how I pulled up. I came up here to New York for you, man.

[A]

Hey, that mean a lot to me, bruh.

[B]

For real.

[A]

Like, I feel like we done talked so much before. So, like. And look, everybody I know is a big fan of your stuff. Like that junk. Cool. So many of my friends repost and agree with some of the talking points and everything.

[B]

So I'm living in a different philosophy right now. All right, so this my thing right now. This is where I'm at. The people who I like online, on social media, who support me as much as I support them on social media, when they doing stuff, I wanna be there.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[B]

Because I would. And then it's like, you know, I'm finna go on tour, I done had shows, and you want people to show up for you. And I feel like if you want people to show up for you, it's important you show up for other people for sure. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

So, like, for me, it's just been big on, like, taking that action to go support the people that I really fuck with. Like, me and you, we ain't never formally met each other until today, but it been love. And it's like. But I also am a fan of the work, so why not go support, you know what I'm saying?

[A]

Nah, that meant that.

[B]

And then it's like, I know if I come, I come to New York, I'm gonna make something happen. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

For sure. That actually means a lot to me, bro. And I've been trying to implement that same thing I learned through this process of doing this project and then me doing my first tour and everything. Like, oh, like, bruh, It's a big support system around me that I'm real grateful of. And I gotta do the work to make sure all those people feel as much love as they gave me back.

[B]

Absolutely. And you a hometown dude, bro.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

I'm like, you know, I think for

[A]

me,

[B]

I just kind of forged my way into the entertainment world. This wasn't. I wouldn't have said 5 years ago this is where I was gonna be. But now that I'm here, it's like, you just understand, like every industry kind of got its little rhythm in how it do things. So if you gonna be in New York and you know, it's people you can call. If it's studios you can book. You gonna work?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's like, okay, I'm going out there for leisure. I'm gonna get some work done.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

It's gonna be cool for sure.

[B]

And I got an excuse to wear Timberlands.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah, absolutely.

[B]

Gotta be salt of the earth real quick, you know?

[A]

Got to. I thought they were going fashion with it until I came out here.

[B]

No, it's actually a utility.

[A]

Absolutely. I've been slipping and sliding.

[B]

It's a utility shoe.

[A]

That junk all bad.

[B]

It's a good boot for sure.

[A]

I ain't like, they act like they, but they own them. It's like, hey, bruh, these shoes.

[B]

But this the thing though. In Atlanta, a nigga wearing Timberlands is for fashion.

[A]

For sure.

[B]

It's all fashion.

[A]

But that's why I perceived it like that.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

I thought we were just wearing them just cause we like boots, you know what I'm saying? Until you get out here and you like, oh, nah, like the ground got ice on it.

[B]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And it's like this sidewalk is a mountain of snow. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I need to be able to step through that. I wanna put a sneaker on that. That's how you get your socks wet.

[A]

Oh, for sure.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

That junk all bad.

[B]

It's all bad. A wet sock is bane of mine.

[A]

That's a bad day.

[B]

I don't want nothing to do with that.

[A]

Wet feet in general, Like, I'm cool on it. Like I'm a type of cat. Sometimes even in the pool, I'm going, aqua sock. Other folks, they laying.

[B]

They you a shirt in the pool type nigga, bro.

[A]

I'm Obese, man.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

I got to.

[B]

You gotta go shirt in the pool.

[A]

Just for my own mental. Even though the wet T shirt contest type of thing kind of put come up anyway.

[B]

It's a smut thing, you know, it don't feel good.

[A]

I will say I never tried putting one on them Under Armour shirts that might do something different. Going water resistant.

[B]

I think that might be the play.

[A]

I want one of those swimsuits that people used to have in like the

[B]

50s with the stripes. Yeah.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

You got Pablo Picasso.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

That's a good look. That's actually a nice look.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I remember my homeboy. Yeah, man. He was a T shirt and a pool type N. And it's like, he used to be acting like, I ain't got on no shirt. I'm like, hey, brother, that's funny. He just like, what y' all talking about? This regular, this how I swim. I'm like, nah, bruh, take that hoe off. Then like everybody else. You know what I'm saying? But like, that is hilarious. Yeah. You know, I've been on a goddamn. I'm trying to reverse engineer some things with the health. Cause truck driving, it'll do it. It'll damage the body, but then also, like, entertainment will damage the body. Yeah, you moving around a lot, man.

[A]

Yeah. I think you just gotta plan, bruh. I learned that it's about planning. Like, okay, if I know I'm be gone these days, prepping what I'm gonna do, or even just looking up what's healthy around there. So you ain't got a decision fatigue when you get there. That's the part that's really the main part is like, I feel like what started helping me is being like, I'mma try to do ABC and then mapping it before I get there. Cause you might get there and be like, oh, it's a burger spot.

[B]

So you just be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah.

[A]

So that be the key.

[B]

I ain't gonna hold you, man. You know when you hang around N, who been famous for a little while, they be like, oh, let's go here and do this. And then they like, they not eating regular dinner. Yeah, they like, we gonna try some of this, we gonna try some of that. We done ordered three appetizers. We ordering two, three entrees. So now I'm like, oh, we just have another little mini buffet.

[A]

That's how they eat, bruh.

[B]

And then it's like, you can't go on a solo recreating shit like that.

[A]

And I've learned too. It's like, I feel like. Cause you know, I open up for a lot of folks. I do have to process, like, oh, this is their lifestyle that I am in right now.

[B]

I'm a visitor. You see what I'm saying?

[A]

This not mine.

[B]

This not me.

[A]

Cause if I was. Cause if I try to do what they doing every day, I'mma be back home.

[B]

It's gonna be a little. The bank account gonna get depleted.

[A]

Okay, so have you seen a big increase in. What's something that you. When you started, you know, doing this? I see y' all got rolled. They shot. Doing a lot of comedy clubs. I like, what's some stuff that made you be like, you started doing that. You immediately said, I gotta stop doing this right now.

[B]

Yeah, man, Expensive dinners is the dinner. It's not. It ain't sustainable. Yeah, it is. Just not yet. Yeah, this ain't where we need to. You don't need to fast track to the. Because other people will take you on nice, expensive dinners. Yeah, you know, managers, executives, other celebrity niggas. And then you just like, oh, yeah. Oh, this a whole nother way of eating.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And then it's like, yeah, bro, that's not a. Every night. You can't do that and live like that. And then also, yeah, you gotta stay out. That uber black, man.

[A]

That uber black. My uber black. Uber eats.

[B]

Uber eats.

[A]

Cause it's one thing I do start doing. Cause you know, most coming up and stand up. You do a lot of middle of nowhere cities.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[A]

So my first thought in the hotel is order some food. Cause there's nothing around me. But now I was like, if you really just step out the hotel first, you could save a lot of money.

[B]

It's something there.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's something there.

[B]

I think the thing is, is, like, it's exciting to have some surplus income. It's not cool to blow it. Nah, bro, that ain't. Cause you don't wanna get acclimated to like just being careless with bread.

[A]

And I think the thing I learned too is like, it's up and down, bruh.

[B]

For sure.

[A]

Like you could. Anybody could be hot for a moment. They could have a dip. That's the one thing. Why entertainment? You never. You don't just make this per year. Sometimes you make this.

[B]

Sometimes it's very up and down, you know what I'm saying?

[A]

So, like, you Wanna have.

[B]

You gotta prepare for them rainy days. Ja Rule tried to tell us.

[A]

He did, bruh. He tried to tell us a lot of stuff, man.

[B]

Ja Rule really was like. He was done dirty, man.

[A]

That Fyre Festival job, I think that.

[B]

And I think 50 cent, too.

[A]

You think the 50 cent stuff, bro, it was it.

[B]

Yeah, but Ja Rule and Mary J tried to tell us about the rainy days. We just didn't wanna listen.

[A]

It's on a rainy day, bruh. Bruh. Being a rapper, being an exec, a music executive. Crazy.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Get it. Like, imagine selling that.

[B]

Like that voice, right?

[A]

So it's not dmx. Like, they like. It's not dmx. It's.

[B]

It's Imagine DMX singing. Imagine dmx. Vocally, Tupac aesthetic. But the mid tier of both of them that we.

[A]

But it's some records, though.

[B]

But we gonna put him with a girl.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's gonna be the killer combo every time. Cause you get Ja Rule with Lil Mo. You get Ja Rule with Maya Ashanti, Mary J Blige, J. Lo.

[A]

Y.

[B]

He going crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If he got somebody to take care of that hook, he good living it up. Come on, man. Case with the.

[A]

Do I do sample in there?

[B]

Do I do hard crazy?

[A]

That drunk. Yeah, he was.

[B]

He good for two verses. Let's just keep it real. He needs to. Always good. It was always good, bro. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Rude, baby.

[B]

It's a good. It's a vibe. I feel like we kind of turned our backs on him for 50 cent.

[A]

And this one I knew we really had turned our backs on him. Cause the comeback record he had came out with, I always thought was hard.

[B]

Turned that back.

[A]

No, the song he. Cause not when he was trying to beef, like, you know what? I'm done with that. I'm getting back to what I know. And he had that is your body. Your body. You ever heard that song say goods in it was him trying to do the rap Shawty mix again.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No.

[A]

You never heard that song?

[B]

I don't think I have.

[A]

Right. I wish I could play it. But like the.

[B]

It was the song. I'll play it after we finish.

[A]

It's your body, your body it's something make me say yeah, yeah, yeah. It was him trying to do the.

[B]

He was trying to get back in his bag.

[A]

And we didn't let him.

[B]

We ain't fuck with it.

[A]

And I was like, nah, bruh, he did it. This is the Griffin.

[B]

This a thing, bruh, bro, he made New York Excellent. Song 100 guns and 100 clips.

[A]

I'm from New York. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Then he made we gonna clap back. And 50 Cent buried him. So, yeah, you know, this was like, we gonna choose. This is the thing about Ralph B. Is really incumbent on who mo gangsta. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Really? Music don't matter. Who do I believe winning a fight?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's.

[A]

And that's what happened.

[B]

Yeah. And 50 Cent had the whole, like, I got shot nine times. That's hard to compete with on a gangster level.

[A]

It is.

[B]

On the level of being gangster. It's hard to compete with.

[A]

Yeah. Cause I think people really do respect, like, somebody who, like, hey, I have experienced. I have proof of the violence that I am saying on the records.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

And I survived it.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? I'm not a victim. I'm a victor.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You see what I'm saying? I really fuck with that. Raise your hand. Be honest, how many of y' all have been putting off going to the doctor? Yeah, me too. Like, I noticed something is a little off. And instead of booking an appointment, I'm on my phone at 1:00am Googling symptoms. You know, Dr. Google, convincing myself I either need to drink more water or that I'm dying. No, in between. Or I'll say, like, I'm a book it this week, and then the week comes and it goes, and the next thing you know, it's been months. That's exactly why I like ZOC Doc. Because it actually makes finding a doctor and booking the appointment way easier than we make it in our own head. ZocDoc is a free app and website where you can find and book high quality in network doctors. And I'm talking about over 150,000 providers across all 50 states. So whatever you need, whether it's dental, primary care, dermatology, eye care, all of that is on there. And you can search by specialty or even by symptoms, read real patient reviews, and actually get a feel for the doctor before you book. And the best part, you can see their real time availability and book instantly. No calling offices, no being on hold, no we'll call you backs you can do in person visits or video visits. Whatever works for you. And appointments usually happen fast, like within 24 to 72 hours and sometimes even same day. If I need to find a new doctor, this is exactly what I use. Because anything that makes taking care of myself easier, I'm with that. So stop putting off those doctor's appointments and go to Zocdoc.com to find and instantly book a doctor you love today. That's Z O c d o c.com grits zocdoc.com grits thank you, Zocdoc, for sponsoring this message. Let's. What's the name of the special? Have you. Have you named it or what?

[A]

It's called Dollar Sign.

[B]

Dollar Sign.

[A]

It's spelled Six Cash Signs, though. So if somebody writing it, they got up, right? Six Cash signs.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But it's pronounced dollar sign.

[B]

Gotcha.

[A]

I'm doing a Prince thing.

[B]

Yeah, I see what's going on.

[A]

Like, Prince had the logo.

[B]

It's symbolism.

[A]

It's the symbol. And then there's the name Prince. That's what's happening.

[B]

Six Dollar signs.

[A]

Six dollar signs. Yeah, man, it should be. It's gonna be.

[B]

I'm looking forward to it.

[A]

It's pretty silly, man. It's silly. It's not. It may be a quiet taste for some people, which is fine.

[B]

Yeah. But I like your quirky shit, though. I like when niggas is quirky, man. We taking life too seriously.

[A]

That don't mean.

[B]

Hey, man, it's niggas over here. They got caught up. They were just doing weird stuff on the island. I'm just.

[A]

Oh, no, no. Them cats, they tripping.

[B]

Them cats is doing that over there. So while we on the big land, let's just have a good time.

[A]

We having regular fun, man.

[B]

We have regular fun. We having a bug and our ideal fun. We in two different world.

[A]

Listen, man, them boys is dopamine deprived and unwell.

[B]

Yeah, man. No, it's psychopathic. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

No, no, no. Them cats is insane.

[B]

Yeah, man.

[A]

Them cats was over there doing that nonsense. And it's also like, y' all was taking them photos, wasn't y', all, bruh?

[B]

Y' all was flicking it up like.

[A]

That's how you know they have no shame.

[B]

They were flicking it up.

[A]

Yeah, they are. Yeah. We over here skinning people. What? I feel like the skinny people, man. I would think the skinny people, man, are always serious. I wouldn't think skinny Bean man be piecing it up like. Yeah, man, take the skin off him. Whoa, man, you must be sinister. You have enjoyed with this. Y' all. Boy's awful.

[B]

The skinny people, man. Charismatic.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He man. Who wants Sprite? I'm going to cooler, man.

[B]

Drinks. Yeah, I know you could do a drink. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't worry about him.

[A]

Yeah, man, he Good. He playing. He everybody favorite golf part.

[B]

Yeah, man. Yeah. He skinny niggas, but he's a good tab.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got like a. He a good lobbyist for some law that's gonna help them make a hundred more million dollars. That's how much it cost to them. They like, oh, we gonna ignore the skinning.

[B]

He made me a honey, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man. It's some, man. They was taking them photos, bro.

[A]

They was like. They had no shame.

[B]

See, this is the thing about me. I'm in the entertainment industry.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. I am technically an entertainer. I would leave whole productions and forget to take photos.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I just do the show.

[A]

Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

And then I get gone. Like, hey, we came. Cause to me, we on camera together already. I don't need a whole bunch of photos. They commemorating, but they like, nah, we gotta. We gotta make sure we capture this moment.

[A]

He commemorating. They just like, man, we done did some demonic stuff today, man.

[B]

There's some. Been some evil.

[A]

Let's flick it up, y'. All.

[B]

It's been some evil going on. You two little girls, y' all come over here and get in this photo tripping. We finna get real. Yeah. Shit finna get dark.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

These niggas are sick.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So I think, you know, as aware as we are of that shit, we need to be having regular human fun.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? For sure.

[B]

Cause that shit a little alien, but

[A]

they for sure, for sure.

[B]

This is very alien behavior.

[A]

That's why I be saying. That's why I be trying to tell people. I do feel like, yes, obviously I be wanting to have more success or, like, get bigger or make more bread or anything, but you do have to get to a point where something is enough.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[A]

I feel like a big issue with anybody who be going too crazy. They didn't realize I should be at peace at this point.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They never had that conversation where enough was enough.

[A]

Cause if you don't, I feel like eventually, you know what I'm saying? Like, you gotta be like, after you got the billion dollars and you still, Whatever hole wasn't filled, you gotta. Something else gotta happen. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

We gotta keep up in the ante.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's safe to say that 20, 25, it was like, it was the best year for your career, both as far as exposure and financial. Right?

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

I have a similar thing. Right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I also was running into n in 20, 25, where it was like, whoa, their money is different than mine.

[A]

For what? Absolutely.

[B]

Yeah, man. I went to, you know, nigga Tyler, the creator, is a fan of the show. He's actually, like, a cool nigga.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So he was like, I'm in Atlanta. What you doing? I was like, I'm getting a tattoo. He's like, let's get some food. Okay, bet. Yeah. We go to the eav, as one does. You gonna take a quirky, like an eccentric famous nigga.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You wanna take him to East Atlanta?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

East Atlanta Village.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

We go over there, little five. He pull up and a fucking Rolls Royce.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's driving it. I said, oh, okay. I'm having a great year, but there is levels for sure. You know what I'm saying? And I need to go ahead and consider what my ceiling is in this thing. Where do I get to where I'm like, I'm good.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, listen. And I get the people, too, who be like, man, take it to the heights. I'm like, I get that too. But I do. I feel like as I get older, I be like, I love peace of mind, bruh.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

I love peace of mind, and that's more important to me than anything. But, yeah, people be. I mean, it's been the same thing for me, though.

[B]

Like, you done been around some real superstars, bro.

[A]

What? I mean, I be opening for Mulaney, bruh.

[B]

You see what I'm saying? John Mulaney, that's a different type of money.

[A]

I be opening for Mulaney. I be like, oh, bro, these are some of the most different experiences I done ever seen in my life.

[B]

This is one of the most famous comedians.

[A]

Yeah. I ain't never been on no private plane.

[B]

Like, what? And John Mulaney is legitimately funny as fuck.

[A]

Yeah, he hilarious, bro. He hilarious. Dude's great, bro. But I feel like it's that same experience onto just like, you meeting folks and you like, oh, people lives are going really well.

[B]

Yeah, they doing their thing.

[A]

But also, too, though, when I think about. Too, we just. We don't know. We don't know that whole.

[B]

We don't know the inner workings of the mental. Yeah, I know. I'm living. I know. I'm happy as fuck.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

That's what I be thinking about, too.

[B]

So me and you, we on that level where it's like, man, life is great.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I ain't Got to. I ain't got to a level where, like, a cat bumped into me on purpose so he could try to sue me.

[B]

You see what I'm saying?

[A]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't had no experience where I'm like, well, I feel like my success is coming at a cost of my peace of mind.

[B]

You see what I'm saying? And then here's the thing. I always reflect on this. My granny built a house at 28.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She still live in that house now. She has renovated that house three, four times over. But she happy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? She like. She got her land, her crib. She good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I need to figure out what my. Build a house, have some land. Is me like, what's that? I'm gonna be content with this. You know what I'm saying? It ain't gotta be for me. It is a declaration that I could be successful without being in front of this camera.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Once we figure that play out, we good. We can coast on into the sunset. But we in such the beginning stages, like me and you both.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

It's so crazy how long it take to be an overnight success.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, Listen, I'll be 10 years in February, bruh. Yeah.

[B]

Like, congratulations.

[A]

I appreciate it, bruh.

[B]

You stayed down, bro.

[A]

I appreciate it. I'm proud of the fact that, you know, I have never before this. I never before this stuck to anything this long, bruh. So it's like, it just feel good to be. To see some results from some junk. And just like on some, you know, people say this cliche, but I truly do believe that most people can do most things. I don't believe anybody can do anything, but I believe most people could do most of the things if they just try their best, bro.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cause I'm not no person who was particularly whatever. Like, yeah, I made good grades and stuff in high school, not in college, but I just feel like everybody, if you just stick to a thing and be consistent, you could see some fruit. And I thought. I thought I wasn't gonna see none, and now I do, so.

[B]

Hell yeah, man. I feeling good about that, man. I'm proud of you, bro.

[A]

Man, I appreciate you. Proud of you too, bruh.

[B]

Thank you, man.

[A]

And you preaching stuff. The stuff that you talk about is important, bro. Like, I even took in some of that. Like, for me, I went to college. I'm an example of some of the stuff you say. I went to college. I ain't had no skill.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And Then I was broke, you know what I'm saying? Cause I couldn't get no job. Cause I didn't technically know how to do nothing. And so granted, yeah, I'm lucky that comedy worker. But now I think about like, okay with my free time, let me learn some junk. Because I do wanna still be able to contribute to a society beyond just reprieve.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's real. Yeah. I told my son this. I said, you know, you can't be anything. Yeah, but you could be. The thing is, people will tell your children, you could do anything in the world. And I tell my son, you can be exactly what you good at.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like whatever you good at, you could be the best at that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let's just say math ain't your thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Then why we in? Why? You know what I'm saying? Why are we trying to be rocket scientists?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You don't even like advanced calculus like that. You don't like physics. You don't like that. You ain't a big fan of science.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But if you would take that love that you got for language arts and apply it to writing or something in that, like, you could be amazing.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Cause me, I would have been doing this for free. I would have been taught I was doing it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I care about history, so, like, I love that. I love black people. So. Hey, man, I just hit all cylinders for sure. You know what I'm saying? I hit every nigga check, you know,

[A]

check that you like doing.

[B]

That I like doing. And I get to do it here. But you know what I'm saying, if we start talking about advanced maths, you losing me. I know what my limits are. Once we get past algebra one, you lost me. And I need to know that about myself. So that automatically take. You could be anything off the table, you know what I'm saying? But I always tell my kids, double down on your strengths. The thing that you are naturally good at, the thing that you naturally drawn to, like, really just focus on that. Don't worry about the things you ain't. You don't have like a natural aptitude for, because that's for somebody else.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This for you. It's a billion people in the world, bro. You don't gotta do everything. But the thing you good at, you got to do that.

[A]

You gotta be.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

I agree. Yeah, man.

[B]

This your camera? His camera one?

[A]

Yeah, that's his camera.

[B]

Anything you wanna plug, anything where they can find you, man. When Big Fun Network coming Back Shoot.

[A]

Yeah. Subscribe to bigfoot network on YouTube. We probably have some more Big Biz episodes soon. I don't know when this tape gonna come out, so. Yeah, just subscribe there, man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Thank you for having me, bro.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For real.

[B]

This means every social media.

[A]

Oh, yeah. The Mandle man on everything. And also, too, I wanna walk back my Camp Creek slander. I'm a big Camp Creek guy. I spent a lot of time in Camp Creek and I was projecting my emotions around the window over the whole area.

[B]

Nah, that shit hurt.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? I shouldn't have did that, but.

[B]

Shout out to Count Creek, man. A lot of great businesses over there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Be mindful of the valuables that's in your car.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Everybody not doing so well.

[A]

For sure, bruh.

[B]

Shout out to all the Muslims that be out there selling them bean pies and them noodles too, man.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Shout out to y'. All. That's a real hustle.

[A]

Shout out to that LA Fitness as well, man.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

That's when I first. That was the first time I was like, oh, I'm gonna try to get my health together. Walked up in that LA Fitness and seeing people throwing the weight in the air. And I walked back out and I ain't go back to the gym for about four, five months.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And get to a planet fitness with some regular people.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. LA Fitness is a place where people doing a lot.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

For sure.

[B]

You gotta work your way up to the LA Fitness. You gotta be of the mindset I'm in here to do the most.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? I'm either here to hoop or I'm

[A]

finna do big basketball environment.

[B]

I'm either here to play ball or I'm in here to do the most. The weight room.

[A]

Yeah. Ah, they love that one.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They big fans of that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? But this episode, 100 and something. We never know when these things coming out. Cause we working. But whatever episode it is, it'll be titled below. Appreciate you, Mandal, for pulling up on me.

[A]

Thank you, brother.

[B]

And you know what I'm saying, I'm looking forward to tonight.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[B]

Yeah, man. So we'll see y' all niggas next time, you know, in 2026. I just implore you to try your hardest not to be a.

[A]

Cut it's big fun. You know what I'm saying? My man. Thank you. Yeah. They say without the proper labor, faith don't stand a chance. I put my faith in faith and stand on fertile land. I planted seeds that'll indeed turn into trees Before Rest in Peace teas get printed to me.