Episode 144 - Deangelo Deberry

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast

Host: Deante’ Kyle (aka Grizznet)
Guest: D’Angelo Deberry
Episode: 144
Date: May 8, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this wide-ranging and candid episode, Deante' Kyle sits down with fitness influencer and military man D’Angelo Deberry. The conversation flows from pop culture influence, the realities of content creation, and Black men’s health, to small-town life, the “Uncle Olympics,” fitness philosophy, social media hate, and the inner workings of building and maintaining community online and off. Both men reflect on personal growth, fatherhood, and maintaining integrity in the social media landscape. The episode is a rich mix of insights, motivation, humor, and real talk.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The “Uncle Olympics” and Fitness Influence

(00:36 – 05:53)

• Event Breakdown: D’Angelo describes the “Uncle Olympics” as an adult field day inspired by family reunion vibes, featuring events like deadlifts, bench press, sprints, and a mile run to balance strength and cardiovascular fitness.
  • “It’s something like an adult field day, you feel me?...I want everybody in the vibe having a good time.” — D’Angelo (02:39)
• Culinary Theme: Event features healthier twists on soul food — sweet potato waffles, chicken, and sweet potato mash.
• Philosophy on Fitness: D’Angelo encourages individualized health journeys and rejects rigid fitness absolutes.
  • “I want people to be the best version of themselves…It’s about just pushing people to become their best selves, the best version that they want to be.” — D’Angelo (05:01)

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2. Addressing Health Disparities in the Black Community

(05:53 – 08:50)

• Heart Health: Spotlight on disproportionately high rates of heart disease and hypertension among Black men.
  • “It’d be the heart, bruh…that congestive heart failure and shit like that, where it’s like, you don’t know until it’s too late.” — Grizznet (06:10)
• Cultural Norms: D’Angelo discusses the lack of a workout culture in small-town South Georgia and how food traditions can shape health outcomes.
  • “Where I’m from, people not doing that, people sitting still. And then, you know, we eat good…soul food plates have 3-4 carbs on one plate, one protein.” — D’Angelo (07:27)

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3. Small-Town Roots and Building Community

(14:14 – 17:24)

• The Osilla Experience: D’Angelo describes the warmth but stagnation of small-town life, balancing the positives of close-knit community with the drawbacks of limited progression.
  • “It’s community…they’ll come sit in your living room, knock on your door, randomly come sit…that can be a con too…cause you just sitting around and ain’t getting nothing done.” — D’Angelo & Grizznet (15:08-15:47)
• Family Influence: Both hosts recall the generational family ties in their respective Georgia towns.

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4. Military Path and Everyday Discipline

(17:31 – 23:00)

• From No Blueprint to Instructor: D’Angelo shares growing up without parental guidance on post-high school options, leading to his Army career.
  • “I didn’t have any guidance…my peers was talking about, like, SATs, ACTs. I was like, bro, what the hell is y’all talking about?” — D’Angelo (17:40)
• Work-Life Balance: The military structure helps him separate work from home life, emphasizing teaching, fatherhood, and not taking work stress home.
• Career Longevity: D’Angelo plans to “do the 20” if he doesn’t reach self-sustaining success elsewhere.
• On Social Media Income: Both agree that social media is “not reliable” and shouldn’t replace a stable job (22:16).

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5. Authenticity, Online Influence & Handling Hate

(23:00 – 27:40)

• Natural Growth: Both men credit their success to being themselves online rather than chasing trends.
  • “When it comes natural, that’s when people gravitate…you being authentic.” — D’Angelo (09:42)
• Handling ‘Haters’: Open social media hate as a monetizable form of content, especially when creators become beloved.
  • “People hate how much other people love you…The more people like you, the more people that’s gonna hate you.” — D’Angelo (26:44 & 27:31)
• Controversy Management: D’Angelo shrugs off online drama: “If it’s not a threat, I can’t really worry about it.” (24:00)

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6. Fitness Trends, Mukbangs, and Food Content

(10:52 – 14:04)

• Cultural Shifts: Debate about mukbang culture, body changes caused by frequent food challenges, and how content incentives can lead to unhealthy habits.
  • “Once you start getting paid to do it, then it’s incentivized…you ain’t even thinking about your health no more.” — Grizznet (11:51)
• Health Risks: D’Angelo acknowledges the challenge of staying healthy when food content is trending, and the addictive entertainment of food media.

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7. Fatherhood, Personal Boundaries & Therapy

(31:25 – 41:13)

• Online/Offline Balance: Both discuss protecting their families and especially children’s privacy due to social media risks.
  • “If you say something about my [kids]…it’s gonna be a lack of understanding on my part.” — Grizznet (34:03)
• On Therapy and Men’s Mental Health: Grizznet details his journey to therapy to juggle rapid life changes, imposter syndrome, and childhood trauma.
  • “Therapy…kind of just give you the tools to deal with your stuff, but also putting things in perspective.” — Grizznet (37:03)
  • “Don’t allow your audience to deify you…once you buy into that, you can’t go back to being human.” — Grizznet, advice from therapist (38:33)

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8. Business, Integrity, and Avoiding the “Money-Hungry” Trap

(42:07 – 47:13)

• Purpose Over Profit: D’Angelo refuses to drop products or training he isn’t passionate about, even when there’s demand.
  • “If I don’t want to wear this shirt, why the hell would I put it out?” — D’Angelo (46:17)
  • “When you’re not money hungry, I think that’s when your moral compass stays straight.” — D’Angelo (46:03)
• Both avoid sponsorships that compromise their values, such as male enhancement or gambling brands.

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9. Nutrition & Staying Disciplined

(49:49 – 54:25)

• Incremental Change: D’Angelo advocates for small, sustainable dietary improvements rather than drastic shifts.
  • “Take baby steps…slowly do better day by day. Don’t even pull out a scale if you’re new to this. Just start eating healthier.” — D’Angelo (50:29)
• Real-Life Challenges: Both relate to the difficulty of eating well on the go (traveling, events), and how food discipline is harder outside a routine.
• Sweet Potatoes: Both are fans, highlighting how simple healthy swaps can become enjoyable.

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10. Substance Use, Family Impact, and Adulthood Choices

(54:32 – 62:11)

• Personal Choice: D’Angelo never drank or did drugs—initially by intuition, later intentionally after witnessing their negative impact within his family.
• Nuance on Weed: Both note that while weed feels “okay” compared to harder drugs, it can be abused—especially among artists.
• Food as Fuel: As with substances, food can have significant emotional and physical impacts, especially when living a sedentary lifestyle.
  • “Your lifestyle will make it more difficult…when you’re on the road, it’s hard to eat healthy.” — D’Angelo (53:14)

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11. Community, Commerce & Support

(64:02 – 66:24)

• On Supporting Black Entrepreneurs: Discussion about the need to pay full price and stop asking for discounts from small businesses.
  • “Support people…without asking for a discount, bro. Just support.” — D’Angelo (64:40)
  • “I may be paying for you to support me.” — D’Angelo (65:55)

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12. Closing Reflections & Where to Find More

(66:24 – End)

• Staying Motivated: D’Angelo wants to keep inspiring others, pushing authenticity and healthy living.
  • “The best way you can support me…is by doing that—eating healthy and working out.” — D’Angelo (67:05)
• Streaming and Growth: D’Angelo is getting into more live streaming, primarily on TikTok and Twitch (@dangelo1012), and is excited to continue building community.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If it’s not a threat, I can’t really worry about it.” — D’Angelo on online drama (24:00)
• “People hate how much other people love you.” — D’Angelo (26:44)
• “When you’re not money hungry, that’s when your moral compass stays straight.” — D’Angelo (46:03)
• “Acknowledgement is the first step, but it’s all subjective. It’s up to you. It’s not my definition… it’s your definition.” — D’Angelo on fitness journeys (05:01)
• “Don’t allow your audience to deify you…once you buy into that, you can’t go back to being human.” — Grizznet’s therapist advice (38:33)
• “I think the audience can tell when you need it, when you like desperate for it. They could tell.” — D’Angelo (23:38)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | Topic | |-----------|---------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------| | 00:36 | Uncle Olympics | Event purpose, events, and format | | 05:53 | Black Men’s Health | Heart disease, food culture | | 14:14 | Small-Town Roots | Community, generational family | | 17:31 | Military & Education | Entry story, discipline, Army experience | | 23:00 | Authenticity & Social Hate | Handling drama, being natural online | | 31:25 | Fatherhood & Therapy | Family privacy, mental health, handling growth | | 42:07 | Integrity in Business | Merch strategy, avoiding the “money-hungry” trap | | 49:49 | Food Discipline | Practical advice, food swaps, maintaining health | | 54:32 | Substance & Family Impact | Abstaining, family influence | | 64:02 | Supporting Black Creators | Commerce, discounts, and community support | | 66:24 | Final Reflections | Supporting D’Angelo, socials, streaming plans |

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a profound blend of practical advice, lived experience, and community-oriented discussion. D’Angelo’s genuine, no-gimmicks approach to health and content resonates deeply through his stories and philosophy, while Deante’ keeps it real about the ups and downs of online visibility and business. The conversation is as much about building external strength as it is about nurturing internal well-being, family, and integrity in public life.

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Where to Find D’Angelo:

• TikTok: @dangelo1012
• Instagram: @dangelo1012_
• Twitch: @dangelo1012
• Merch & programs: [Link in bio]

Support by: “Eating healthy and working out.” (67:05)

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“You know, these are things I care about…It’s also cool that it helped me connect with people in a real way.” — Grizznet (09:07)

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[End of summary.]

Transcript

[Grizznet]

Yeah Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty soul with a dirty mouth My knee orbit miss things Things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my bitch no rest Fusion she gorgeous as I doubt my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead Tell them we gonna get this money to my pocket SM morbid Remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage. It started today.

[D' Angelo]

N. It starts Saturday.

[Grizznet]

It starts okay.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, yeah. It all. It all kind of branched off. You low key. You know, I was coming down here this weekend for this, and then the Muse Content house thing was happening. It's basically like content creators getting together to make content. And then I said, I got to be 11, 28th. I mean, the 26th. I'm like, yeah, let's do it that weekend. Then next thing y. Then I said, going throw the U invitation that weekend too, you know, just to make the most out of the trip.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[D' Angelo]

So, yeah, one thing branched off that jumping off.

[Grizznet]

I'mma save some of this stuff for the interview, but yeah, you rolling. Y N, bro, you have became like a goddamn. You had came. You became like a down there character for man.

[D' Angelo]

What make you say that though?

[Grizznet]

Because, like, of course he was doing the out of hand thing, which I feel like the way you was approaching fitness and talking about it was the right way. That's the way. Understand? Shit.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

You know what I'm saying?

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

I think sometimes you gotta be a little mean. Like, you don't have to be. You don't gotta shame em.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

But you gotta be very direct, you know what I'm saying? Like, let's stop playing.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

So when. When. When they started making memes of you, like where you was extra fat. Bro, that so funny, bruh.

[D' Angelo]

They gotta stop with the AI stuff, bro. That's. Come on, bro. That's a childish way to use AI. Come on, man. That's a childish way to use AI man. Let's be more productive with that. My pictures in there.

[Grizznet]

You ain't like that.

[D' Angelo]

Nah, man. But it do be funny though. I ain't gonna hold. I did say. I did say some of those, man.

[Grizznet]

I got a few of them in my phone, man.

[D' Angelo]

Hey, delete that.

[Grizznet]

Ye. The uncle Olympics is. Is this week. This weekend. Saturday.

[D' Angelo]

Saturday. Two days away.

[Grizznet]

It's. How many days is the. It's just the one day.

[D' Angelo]

It's just that one day. We're doing everything that One day.

[Grizznet]

What me through. Walk me through the event. Oh.

[D' Angelo]

So it's something like. Something like an adult field day, you feel me? But I wanted to have like a. I would say like a family. Family reunion or black kid back type vibe. I want everybody in the vibe having a good time. You know, we're going to play R and B music going to be played. It's going to be some competitive events. So I say it's like a field day, but like kind of like a family reunion type thing.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

You know, we got a mixture of weightlifting, so like four or five deadlifts for reps. Whoever do the most wins that event. We got 220, 225 bench press. You know, people were saying 225 is the standard. You know, that was a discussion. So we decided to throw that in there, see who can do the most 225 reps. Whoever do that wins that event. But then also, I ain't finna have these people just outlift me. Cause they strong as hell. You feel me? I can't have power lifter competitors. So we put some running in the event. You know, people like to sprint. So we got some sprinting, sprinting in there. We got a mile run. I'm a runner. I like to run long distance. But I understand that everybody ain't really into that. So I said I'm gonna cut it down to a mile, you feel me? Whoever run the fastest mile that wins that event, whoever sprint the fastest wins that event. And. And then overall take the overall score. Whoever got the best scores, win. Win the whole event, you know?

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Uncle Olympian.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

If you will.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, yeah, y'. All. Which y' all got as well? It's gonna be straight sweet potatoes and beef out there.

[D' Angelo]

Nah, it ain't. It is gonna be some sweet potato dishes, though. It is. I got. I got a chef, he's coming. He's gonna be selling some sweet potato waffles. Chicken. Chicken and sweet potato waffles.

[Grizznet]

Okay.

[D' Angelo]

He got also some hot honey meatballs with some sweet potato mash. Yeah, yeah, Something like that.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D' Angelo]

So, you know, it fits the thing.

[Grizznet]

I mean, to be honest, man, it's. It's actually very evident that it's inspiring people, though.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

A lot of people been. You know, some people, they do too much.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

They take it too far with the sweet potato. They remixed it.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

But for the most part, it's like, I would say you among other people has been like a really big influence on people, trying to get theyself together.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

On the physical fitness, I ain't there.

[D' Angelo]

You ain't there, I ain't there.

[Grizznet]

I need to get there.

[D' Angelo]

You know what I mean? You know, acknowledgement is the first step, but it's all subjective. It's up to you. You know what I mean? It's not my definition of what is there. It's your definition. Like, I want people to be the best version of themselves. I don't want them to, like, just say, oh, everybody got to have a six pack, or everybody got to do this or that. That's why I don't really, like, preach a specific way of training. I don't care if you become a power lifter, a runner, bodybuilder, or you just want to get in shape. I. I respect that, to be honest with you. The people who hit me up, the ones that I appreciate the most, is people who's like, somebody hit me. It was like, I'm like. I was like £350. You motivated me to get a gym membership. Like, I've never had a gym membership before. I think that's what it's about. Like, it's about just pushing people to become their best selves, the best version that they want to be. It's not like, what I consider their best.

[Grizznet]

Absolutely. Yeah. We. We did our. Our first stop of our tour in Raleigh and there was a. A cardiac. I think she was a. It was something that had to do with, like, the heart.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

And, man, it's just like the discussion she was having around that, with everybody in that room around, like, how black men really. It'd be the heart, bruh. Like, more than anything. It'd be that blood pressure. Yeah, it'd be that, like that heart failure, that congestive heart failure and shit like that, where it's like, you don't know until it's too late. That's one thing about the heart is, like, it's gonna keep working until they can't no more.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

And so, you know, she was like, giving everybody resources about, you know, how to check their levels and getting their blood work and, like, where some free resources was for people to do that. And, like, this has been like a very reoccurring theme, you know? And I'm like, damn, bro. Niggas gotta tighten up, bro.

[D' Angelo]

Nah, Faz.

[Grizznet]

Because we get older too, right? You know what I'm saying?

[D' Angelo]

I've seen people experience these things you named at a young age. I got a cousin. I got a cousin.

[Grizznet]

He.

[D' Angelo]

He was a dot. He. He was a diabetic since he was, like, 17. And then, like, some of the things you list off, it goes on in my family, you know what I'm saying? Like, I have. I have people with health issues and physical injuries, stuff like that, due to not eating healthy, due to not working out. Like, where I'm from, it's a small town, man. It's not Atlanta. It's a very small town.

[Grizznet]

Where you from?

[D' Angelo]

I'm from Osita, Georgia. Okay. So just working out stuff is not a norm. You know, if you in Atlanta, you know, you got the belt line, they gonna run that belt line. While that belt line. Where I'm from, people not doing that, people sitting still. And then, you know, we eat good. You know, we from. I'm from the country, so we eating soul food place. You know, soul food plates have 3, 3, 4 carbs on one plate, one protein. So I think that's what. That's what. That's what kind of pushed me to even, like, keep going about this. Because, bro, I didn't want to be no fitness influence. It was never something that I just inspired to do. I never just woke up one morning, said, I'm going to be a fitness influencer.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

I really saw people going crazy with these. With these food combinations.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

You know what I mean? It was like that Biscoff cheesecake, for example.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Yeah, man, it looked good, but, boy, I know. It's terrible, bro. It's a whole tub of cheesecake.

[D' Angelo]

Terrible. That is terrible. So I really was just saying, hey, man, I think that's a little crazy. Like, you know what I mean? And then I just. I realized, like, I realized I was actually influencing people. And then it's something I was, like, passionate about. So I was like, man, I gotta keep this going. Like, I. I really been rocking with it. For real. For real. I think the fact that it wasn't something, like, I set out to do or be, I think that's what made it better.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. I think some of the things that people see success in is when they just doing what come natural to them.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

Like, I tell people all the time, like, these same conversations that I'm having on this podcast or that I'm having on TikTok, that's the conversation I'm having in real life.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

These are things I care about. This is shit I'm passionate about. So the fact that I can find a way to turn it into a company, and then, like, I get to have conversations with people I fuck with, like, you can come down here and we could chop it up and it's love. You know what I'm saying? And. And amongst like, a bunch of other people. Keith done been to the crib, you know, so Keith was like one of my early on guests.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

So it's like, it's cool that it's like one of those things where it's like, natural, but it's also cool that it helped me, like, connect with people too in a real way. And I think the same thing. What you doing, even what you're doing this weekend, this could be the first annual.

[D' Angelo]

It could be. Man, I hope this becomes something major. But to caveat off what you said about it coming natural, that's really what it's about. Because I was making content before this even came about. But when you. When it comes natural, that's when it. People gravitate towards it because of. Is you being authentic.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

So like me, for example, when. If I would have approached this in any other way than the way that I approached it, if I would have did it the same way other fitness influences do it or nutritional influences do it, then they would have been like, man, hell no, we don't heard this before you go saying like. Like, for example, with 25, I think

[Grizznet]

y' all too is the ones, though.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

It's only. I just want to say it's only 125 though.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

And it's because she's doing it her own way.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

You know what I'm saying? Despite what is negative comments or positive comments, she's doing it her own way. So it gets their attention. You know what I mean?

[Grizznet]

I think in our community, y' all are the 1 and 2, though, like, because you don't. You don't take the same approach as her, but is really like, it's like, it's a no nonsense thing, like, because the stakes is high when it comes to it's your life.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

In a real way. And even when you young, you can eat crazy and people be eating like they be out of hand with the food. But one thing that I know, like, that bothers me is the, like, people that do mukbangs and shit and they eating all that food and you just see them getting bigger and bigger and bigger to the point where it's like

[D' Angelo]

I fell into that trap where I was like, trying to review foods. Not like mukbangs. I wasn't doing like daily, but I fell into the truck trying to review food. Go back, see them videos, bro. You can see my face is chubbier, a little bit bigger. That Right there is a. It's a rabbit hole. You don't want to go down.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Especially the mukbangs. Like, you look at them up. People who do mug rings, like, just find your favorite mukbanger and go look at them and look. See? Six months apart. It's gonna be a difference in that face. Like, in that. In that. In that body. It may be small, but it's gonna be a difference.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, it's a lot of inflammation on that line. Them folk be swollen. But then, like, it's people that done died from that shit too, 100%, because they. I think the thing is, like, once you start getting paid to do it, then it's incentivized. Then it's like you ain't even thinking about your health no more. You just thinking about the health go

[D' Angelo]

out the window at that point. You gotta pay them bills.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, that's. I can't listen to people eat. So that's just like, from one that's. I don't know that shit called, like, misophonia or something. Like, I just literally can't listen to that shit. Make me angry.

[D' Angelo]

I don't know why, but I can. I'll be lying if I said it's not enjoyable to watch. I'll be lying if I just say I can't watch it. And I'm discussing. Nah, I do be a little entertained. And I like watching people make food, too. Yeah, like, shout out to Kennedy Myers. I like watching her cook, man. Like making cinnamon rolls. I like watching that stuff people eat. I like Tay Hustle, you know, Tails. Yeah, I'll be watching him, man. It's entertaining, man. Sometimes watch people eat or whatnot. But I understand when people say they can't do it. You ain't the first person I heard say that.

[Grizznet]

Nah, this actually, like, some medical. Like, that made me angry.

[D' Angelo]

Like, it's a diagnosis.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Oh, my.

[Grizznet]

Like, I can't.

[D' Angelo]

You get mad.

[Grizznet]

It's like a phobia, bro. I don't know what it is. And I didn't realize it until I was, like, in my mid teens because I was working around people a lot. I was car detailing, and we used to eat in the truck. And it was just one dude. Like, the way he would eat it used to just bother me so much. Like, I used to be getting mad as fuck. And I never used to say nothing, bro. I never would say nothing. I had one day, I had just told him, like, bro, you gotta stop eating like that. Like, bro, you can't tell the people

[D' Angelo]

that, bro, you can't tell we had

[Grizznet]

gotten a fight, man.

[D' Angelo]

You can't be telling.

[Grizznet]

He was mad. He was. I'm gonna eat my food. How the fuck I want to. I was like, bro, if you keep eating like that, I'm gonna beat.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

H was like, what's up? Yeah, but it was like I was in the wrong. I know I was in the wrong, but, like, I could have just got out the truck. Real talk. Like, if it's bothering me like that.

[D' Angelo]

That's what I thought you was about to say. You did? Yeah. I told one day, hey, you gotta start eating later. That's crazy.

[Grizznet]

But, like, he was eating like you like, bro, what the fuck wrong with you, bro? It's not that good, bro, all this.

[D' Angelo]

Some people be having emotional attachment to food.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. He was emotionally involved with whatever the fuck he was eating that day.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. So they be know you might hear some moans and some grunts.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, that's a tough one, though, bro. But, yeah, I think so. You. Where you say you from? Where in Georgia?

[D' Angelo]

Osilla. Georgia. It's down south. It's like.

[Grizznet]

It's who?

[D' Angelo]

Oh, Osilla.

[Grizznet]

Osilla. Okay. Oh, yeah, I know. What. That's down. That's down like Valdalia and all that.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, Valdosta.

[Grizznet]

In that area.

[D' Angelo]

Yep, yep, exactly. It's like. Oh, yeah, 45 minutes away from Valdosta.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Y' all country down there, man.

[D' Angelo]

We in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, it's different. It's a different lifestyle.

[Grizznet]

You, your. Your whole family from out that way? Like, generationally.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Grizznet]

Damn. What y' all folks out there out that way be doing?

[D' Angelo]

Have you ever lived in a small town before?

[Grizznet]

No, I lived in a small town, but I was driving trucks, so I was like, in and out.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, it's a different lifestyle, bro, than. Than this. Like, you ask what we do, like, or what they be doing, bro, Getting together, chilling. Yeah, but it's good, though. That's a good thing, though.

[Grizznet]

It's community.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. Like, bro, they. They'll come sit in your living room, knock on your door, randomly come sit in your living room for hours. And y' all just kicking and having a good time. You know, I always tell people, like, any big cities, you gotta. People gotta go out to have fun, you know, like, you gotta go meet somewhere with a purpose, with intent. Where I'm from, bro, that just. Man, let's go to Ricky House on the door. Y' all kicking and just chilling. No plans, no nothing. Yeah, but that can be a con, too, as well. Though, you feel me? Cause you just sitting around and ain't getting nothing done. That's the problem, you know, no progression, no action. No. But it definitely. I always give them credit, also the Georgia credit for my personality, for my humor, the way I go about things.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, you kind of got the old man vibes, you know, But I was

[D' Angelo]

raised around old head. I know old women and then, I mean, older women, women in general. I was raised around all women. I got, like, my mom got four sisters, you know, so it's five of them. So raising around women. And then also the men in my life, a lot of them were older, so I do have some old mannerisms.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

You feel me?

[Grizznet]

That's the country, though.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

Because my grandmama, she from Thomaston, Georgia. So, like, all my family from Thomaston.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

My mama side of the family. And like, when you go out there, it's just different type of vibe. It ain't nothing too much going on. But like you said, it's like all my family, my. My great granddaddy had built, like, four houses on that street for his family.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

And then he built a convenience store. So, like, that whole strip is just all my family.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

And of course, they done built on to it since then, too. Yeah, I. I like.

[D' Angelo]

I kind of.

[Grizznet]

I like.

[D' Angelo]

I like places like that. I, I, for real, I really. I seen. I seen a place the other day, somebody said on TikTok, it was called Alligator, Mississippi. It was a small town, very, very small. It's just a different way. And I was like, dang, I kind of want to go to Alligator, Mississippi, just see how they living. Because if you go out there, you may be bored initially.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. You start kicking with people.

[D' Angelo]

Like, for example, your family. I go out there and kick with them, man. They probably cool as hell.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, they cool, bro. I love being out there.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

But I think after, like, for me, it's like, after like, three days, I was like, man, I'm ready to get back to the action, bro. Bro.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. I would say this.

[Grizznet]

It happens moments where it's like, yeah, time do stuff.

[D' Angelo]

You got to be in the mood, man, because, yeah, time do stop when you're in the environment like that, because ain't nothing going on

[Grizznet]

the win. How did you get. So what. What made you go. Did you go to the military straight after high school?

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

Did you play athlete? Did you play sports or anything like that?

[D' Angelo]

I played sports in high school, but I went straight to the army, bro, because my mom, my dad, they didn't go to college. My dad didn't even graduate high school, so I didn't, I didn't have any guidance when it came to like holding my hand on how to get to college or the next steps, like, or even like, what's the next step like I'm going to take after high school. I didn't have any guidance and going to college seemed impossible. Like I was a mediocre student. I was in alternative school since third grade. I was in alternative school, so Graves was mediocre. And my, my senior year of high school, my peers was talking about like sats, acts. I was like, bro, what the hell is y' all talking about? I didn't even know what the hell it was talking about, man. It was like they, they applied for school, they enrolled in the school. I didn't even know how to enroll in school. Yeah. So I just didn't have no guidance and nobody to help me because like I said, my parents didn't go to school. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, typical story. You know, the army recruiter, they, in them low income environments you filmed at the school, took the ASVAB pass. Then I was, I guess you could say the recruiter kind of held my hand and said, we're gonna walk you through this stairs to get you into the military. And that's what happened.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. You've been in there ever since?

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, I mean, August. Well, late July makes ten years.

[Grizznet]

Oh, okay. Yeah, that's lit, bro.

[D' Angelo]

How's.

[Grizznet]

How's that been? How's that experience been for you though?

[D' Angelo]

It's been good, man. I've had what some would say a successful career. I've been doing good things, man. You know, I'm an instructor right now, so I teach people that's just joining the military their job like, like the job that we do. I'm an 80 November transportation coordinator. But it's been good, man. I would say it's been more, way more ups than downs. Like my, my career has been easy so far, I think. I don't know, man. I think I'm just a good soldier. You feel me? Like, I know how to get, you know, I'm a good soldier, bro. You feel me? And then also I do my job and I, and I go home. Like, I don't take this job home with me. Like, it's not something that, like I'm just walking around thinking about the military all day. Yeah, hell no. No, I go home, man. I'm a father. You get what I'm saying? I got, I got other Responsibilities and I just zone out and then I clock back in at work. I'm competing, I'm trying to be the best.

[Grizznet]

You go, yeah, for sure.

[D' Angelo]

So it's been easy for me and I definitely don't regret it. For sure.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, you. Have there any been any nerves around like what's going on around and stuff like that?

[D' Angelo]

Man, hell no, I ain't gonna hold you. I don't even think about that. Yeah, respectfully, like I just. With the stuff that goes on, on the news, man, maybe the military like desensitizes us to that stuff. Like because sometimes we'll see stuff on the news that's happening and it's not. It doesn't affect me directly. So people asking me, okay, are you going to do this, are you going to do that, are you going somewhere? And most of the time I never do. There has been times where I have, but most of the time it don't change my day to day job.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

So I'll be lying if I say I, I'd be concerned. But I definitely feel bad and pray for the people who lose their lives in these situations though, because sometimes they do hit close to home. You feel me? Like sometimes you'll see, you'll be scrolling on the Internet, you'll see a soldier passed away. You know, I mean a young soldier too at that. 18, 19, 20, 21. And ain't a similar MOS or job as me. Yeah, sometimes I do hit home in that, in that manner. But I try not, I try not to stress about it. If I, if I stress about it, then I'll be, I'll probably get out this military.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Yeah. You're gonna go, you, you, you in for the long haul, right?

[D' Angelo]

Bro, I've been getting that question a lot lately.

[Grizznet]

Only. Cause you 10 years in, I think. What ain't. It's like 20. 20. That's the, that's the, that's a complete assignment.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, bro, I think I'm gonna end up doing 20, I think. Unless, you know, if God just blessed me to the point where I don't need it to fall back on, then I get out.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

But if that doesn't happen, by all means I'm gonna stay in.

[Grizznet]

Right? Yeah. Cause it's a, it's a career.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

It's a career like anything else. Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. And I got kids.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. How many kids you got? You got two?

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, I got two kids that I gotta take care of.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. For sure.

[D' Angelo]

I gotta have, I gotta. Don't get wrong, social media, money. Cool. But Social media money ain't. You feel? Ain't reliable. You feel me?

[Grizznet]

Right?

[D' Angelo]

At least not for me anyway. I don't know about for you yet, but for me it ain't that reliable yet. You feel me? So I'm definitely gonna keep my career for right now.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Social media, I never really like looked at it as something that like I could depend on for like long haul career because it's up and down, man. It's like you might have an incredible month, you know what I mean? You make like 4, $5,000 and then the next month you barely made 1,000. It's like.

[D' Angelo]

Exactly.

[Grizznet]

You can't live your life like that.

[D' Angelo]

Exactly. And then I think it's. If this was my full time job, I think it'd be too much pressure on being trendy like right now, bro. I don't. I'm doing it stress free.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Like I'm not.

[Grizznet]

You're having fun.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, I'm having fun because I know my bills gonna be paid because I got a job. You're gonna say I have a career. And then the scary part is social media moves so fast, like right now, you know, out of hand programs trending six months from now, people might be like, man, what was his name? He had the little, the little system out. No, out of here. You know what I'm saying?

[Grizznet]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D' Angelo]

So social media moves so fast, bro. One thing that's trending one day may not be trending in two, three months.

[Grizznet]

That's the scary part. Yeah, yeah. And it can go. And that's when like you said, you start seeing people struggle to stay relevant. That's just not a good look, bro.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, it's not. When you become. When I think the audience can tell when you need it, when you like desperate for it. Yeah, they could tell.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

And they, they don't really like vibe with that.

[Grizznet]

How did you deal with some of the, some of the, like the controversy surrounding the uncle Olympics as far as certain creators and like that. We won't, we won't name anybody.

[D' Angelo]

I knew what you talking about. Oh, I wasn't worried about it. I wasn't worried about it because it. If it's not a threat, I can't really worry about it. You know what I'm saying?

[Grizznet]

Yeah, you are. And real military man. You heard him. It's not a threat.

[D' Angelo]

Don't worry about.

[Grizznet]

Neutralize the threat.

[D' Angelo]

Neutralize n. And then some of the

[Grizznet]

other guys that's coming, they military dudes too.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, yeah. Keith included.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, Keith. So KE Fireman

[D' Angelo]

I wasn't worried about it. I didn't think too much about it, to be honest with you. And honestly, the person you're referring to that was doing the most talking, I don't think it will go. I don't know if it will go in the way that they think it would.

[Grizznet]

It would.

[D' Angelo]

So that's why I wasn't.

[Grizznet]

Nobody be standing that dude, bro. It be all Wolf tickets.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

And. And it's weird, it's odd, but it's like I had to come to accept, like, that's his content. That's what he do. That's how he make his money on social media.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

And it's like, I. You know, he cycled through people just all the time. So it's like, yeah, man. I mean, the way homes rocking ain't how I would ever rock in my life, which is the part where I don't understand. But it's also like, I ain't gonna get invested in that, bro. I feel like no business, bro.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. I feel like a lot of the hate comes from you, though. It branches off from you. Like.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Him not liking you means he don't like Keith.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

And then I guess I got caught in the crossfires because I'm somewhat associated with Keith. You know, we cool. And then I guess it's like, if you. I guess he felt like, if you ain't with me, you against me. So.

[Grizznet]

But it's strange. Cause it's like, I don't know you, like, righteously. Like. Like, me and you been familiar.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

But until, like, we actually meet physically in person.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

I don't really know you like that, bro. So it's like the same thing with Keith. Like, me and Keith was cool until Keith started coming around. Like, we was cool like that. So it's like, with people that's like, on the Internet, even if we are familiar, familiar won't talk on the phone.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

Or nothing like that. Like, I don't know you. So how is we against each other? But it's like. But the thing is, is, like, that's why somebody. My homeboy had told me he was like, bruh, the way that you make your content. And, like, what you talking about? Like, this is his content, bro. This what it is. That's why people don't understand it, because they don't think it's like a genre of content. But it is.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, it is.

[Grizznet]

That's what he do.

[D' Angelo]

And also, you got to realize people hate how much other people love you.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

I'm starting to Notice that, bro, the more people that love you, it's gonna be a select few people that hate that people love you.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

So then they're gonna try and find something, like, wrong and then just try and like just, you know, clear hating. You know, back in the day where Hayden used to be something shameful.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Used to be ashamed of that.

[D' Angelo]

Nah, bro. Open openly hating, bro. Yeah.

[Grizznet]

And it's. It's making them money.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Back in the day, man, you couldn't make no money off.

[D' Angelo]

Hey, hell no, bro. That was like, man, getting. Getting called a hater, bro. That was like one of the worst things.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. It's like being called a cornball. Like.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

You got sustain on your name.

[D' Angelo]

Okay with it. Right?

[Grizznet]

Yeah. They don't care.

[D' Angelo]

And they. They only reason why they hating. They can't really even find a reason. They hating because other people love you, bro.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. That's it.

[D' Angelo]

You've experienced. I've experienced, bro. It's like people just. I don't know, bro. It just come with this social media stuff, bro. The more people that like you, the more people that's gonna hate you.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

And they try to find something wrong.

[Grizznet]

How. Where. Where did you get. I know that in the military, like your pts and stuff like that is a requirement, but like, is that where you kind of find your love for running? Because you be doing the marathons and all that.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, but I'll be live. The military low key made me hate running because the military running is different. First of all, there's no music, so I can't listen to my R B. You feel me? I gotta have an rv.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

The military running is you run is you waking up at five in the morning to go on a four or five mile run. And then they just yelling these cadences, like these songs. That's military related. But I don't want to hear all that. Like, it's not. It's not enjoyable. Yeah. I would say the military kind of made me hate running. But when I did it outside of it, like on my free time, that's when I found joy in it. Because, like, I'm an R B head, bro. I listen to RB all day, bro.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

So I turn on that R B going a slow and controlled run. Not like it's a difference between like long distance running and like sprinting. And I. I think a lot of people don't understand the difference because then when they be like, bro, I can't do no running. Not no long distance. Yeah, because you think you got to sprint that Long distance, but going on a slight jog at a slow, slow pace. Listening to your favorite podcast, Grist, Nails or R B. It's enjoyable, bro. For real. For real. And then you feel good afterwards.

[Grizznet]

Hell, yeah. That runner's high.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, for real. You'll be feeling petite. Feeling petite.

[Grizznet]

For real. For real. Hey, so how did it feel for you, out of all the. I think one of the things about social media, especially TikTok, that's so fun, it's like, there is, like, community aspects where, like, certain things become trendy.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

I don't know. I think. Did I pop that shit off for you?

[D' Angelo]

Which one this year, bro? I think you did, but you definitely. I've seen people did make videos beforehand. Right, but you popped it off, though, when you did it, and then you and Rayon did it, too.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, like, Rayon. Rayon did it. Perfect.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. Be trolling. Yeah, y' all definitely pop it off now, people. It's gonna be like.

[Grizznet]

That's hard, though, bro.

[D' Angelo]

That, man.

[Grizznet]

Is it. Is it awkward, though?

[D' Angelo]

Is it, bro? No, because hit me up. I. Bro, first, I've been doing it for. For a very long time. I've been doing it for a very, very long time. Hitting that pose. I stole it from my brother. My brother Bernard. And it just. Bro, I be in the gym every day, right? You know when you're in the gym, right, and you feel you got that pump, you low key, want to take a picture, like, you know what I mean? I think that's for everybody. I think everybody want to snap a picture of a video. And I found a pose that worked for me. Like, I can't do the body. Bit of poses, bro. I'm not doing. Yeah, I'm not gonna be doing no last spread. Like, it don't do it for me. It don't feel like it don't.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, yeah.

[D' Angelo]

It don't feel right to me. And then I told them this to the R B music. So then when I started, you know, rolling shoulders, bringing it in, I said, hold on, man. This kind of, like, flew in and, like, I'm feeling it.

[Grizznet]

And then you caught you one.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, I caught me one. I just. I still do it, bro, to this day. And, you know, they. They love it. I love it. So it's like, why stop it? Yeah, we need to hit that today, actually. We might need it.

[Grizznet]

We got to. It's mandatory, actually. What about, as far as, you know, we. We. It's coming up on, what, April? We a few months away from Father's Day. How has that been for you, like, being more visible online and like, has it had any effect on your personal life? Like, do people from back home call you and like, see what you got going on or you. You know what I'm saying?

[D' Angelo]

People at home, not so much. I will say my family. Yes.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

My brother, my little brother, bro, he was excited to hear that I was coming up here, bro. And when you did my pose, bro, he was excited, bro.

[Grizznet]

Telling you, we fight time when we leave.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, for sure. We got. We got to do that. I gotta to think about it. But, you know, people congratulated me on my success thus far. I. I will say do put pressure on me because I'll be feeling like, dang, I gotta keep going. And then sometimes it makes. At first it was making me feel like, bro, I'm not even really doing much. Like, that's what I feel like. But now it's getting to the point where I feel like, bro, now d', Angelo, you ash actually influencing people and helping people. I will say it did. I did have to get used to getting all these messages. Messages and not reading all of them. Yeah, I was addicted. If you message me, I gotta. I gotta open it and read it. You know what I'm saying?

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Now it's becoming too stressful. So I just like. Right.

[Grizznet]

Man, it. It. You know, it could become a lot. I know that, like the space that I'm in now, like, my kids, they know what I do because they teachers know me and.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. How old are your kids?

[Grizznet]

My oldest, 14, 12 and 8.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. See, mine is 7 and 4.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

So they don't.

[Grizznet]

That's. Yeah. Like, my daughter, she ain't even allowed to have social media, so.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. Down. They don't even understand like, what's. What's going on. And then when I'm with my kids, bro, I'm normally just with my kids at like a. You know, people may see me like a fun, fun place or whatnot arcade, something like that. But it's not a stupid amount of people that's coming out of me.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D' Angelo]

I mean, just onesie twosies, you know what I'm saying? So now it don't affect that in no way. And my kid's mother, they're not. They're not really like. Also they're not content creators.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

So I think this helps too. And they got their own thing going on, so it doesn't really affect it at all. Yeah, that's my parenting at all.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, I. I try to. I'm. I got a show in Birmingham next week. And I'm taking my kids. They had never seen me perform before, so. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. They excited.

[D' Angelo]

Do you post your kids on social media?

[Grizznet]

No.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, I'm starting. Yeah, I'm starting to feel that way too. I have posted them.

[Grizznet]

I have in the past. But I think the way that. The way that things get when people decide to be against you, they get a little disrespectful.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

So it's like, man, it's gonna be. It's gonna be a lack of understanding on my part.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

If you say something about myself.

[D' Angelo]

That's real, though. That's real. That's real. I. I agree, bro. I'm getting to the point where I just. I have posted my kids, now pass back. I don't think I'm be posting my kids.

[Grizznet]

I think safety too. Like people weird, man.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

I don't know what. I don't know what it is, but it's like people. People just are weird.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. And then they. Then they start trying to look up the kid's mother. I just be. It'd be too much, bro.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, bro. People got too much time telling me

[Grizznet]

they got too much time.

[D' Angelo]

Way too much time.

[Grizznet]

The first. The first. The first thing you find on my social media if you search my name is gonna say deontay, Kyle wife. Deontay Kyle girlfriend. Beyonce, Kyle mother.

[D' Angelo]

But they be trying to find them. Well, I'm telling you, they be trying to find them. They trying to find them for nothing positive.

[Grizznet]

Nah, they don't want that positive. No way. I think for the most part what it is is like, like you said, the way that other people love you, it's like we gotta find a chink in this arm or something. Like we gotta expose something. But for me. Oh, anything. Anything that I'm flawed in. Should I tell you?

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, fast. I'll be the first one to tell you.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

You can't use it again.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Hell yeah, I' ma jump out there with it. I ain't got time for no. What you're gonna say.

[D' Angelo]

I was gonna say, when it comes to the kids, though, the only thing they need to know is the kids taken care of. Yeah. Nobody calling me a deadbeat. Ain't nobody doing this or that. So as long as you. The kids taken care of, that's all you need to know.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. And that's how my business too. Like how one thing that I had to learn last year was a really big year for me as far as like just emerging.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

Like just like, cementing myself as, like, a person. Like one of the top people in this space. And I was in a therapy session, and they was.

[D' Angelo]

You go to therapy?

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

That too often, man. What's up, man?

[Grizznet]

Man. Matter of fact, my therapist came to my show.

[D' Angelo]

For real?

[Grizznet]

Yeah. I ain't even know he was there.

[D' Angelo]

What made you get. I'm gonna let you finish, but what made you get into therapy?

[Grizznet]

I had a lot of. It was a lot of new shit happening for me. Yeah. And it was stressing me out. Cause it's like, I ain't gonna say I was having, like, imposter syndrome, per se. I was just, like, worried that I wasn't gonna navigate it the right way. Because it's like once you kinda. Once you quit your job and you do this full time, then it's like, it ain't no going back and you don't wanna fail. And I was putting a lot of unnecessary pressure on myself. And I think it was also compounded by a lot of shit I dealt with just growing up, dealing with childhood trauma and dealing with being adopted and all these different things. And my marriage was struggling. It was a lot of shit. So as I'm seeing success in some places, I'm seeing ultimate failure in other places.

[D' Angelo]

Nah, that's real.

[Grizznet]

And it's like, it was fucking me up, bro.

[D' Angelo]

That is real, bro. That.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. And I can't write. I don't have nobody I can call like, that. Have, like, my dad don't know how to navigate what I'm navigating, because what I'm doing is public. So I could talk to him about, like, marriage at times. But at the same time, it's like, I can't because he done been through a divorce. And, like, he one of the first people to tell me not to get married, like, when I was young. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, I was just really going through it. And I had got booked to speak at this college, and the school counselor there was asking me, like, are you in therapy? And I was like, nah. I was like, I would love to be in therapy. It's like, well, I'm struggling to find a therapist and I don't want to go on better help or none of that. But I also ain't got no insurance, and they just offered me some resources. And, yeah, I just found a great therapist for myself, like a black dude from Virginia. And, yeah, when we started really getting into it, it was like, more than anything, they kind of just give you the tools to deal with Your stuff. But also putting things in perspective. Like, so the biggest thing that he talked to me about was like not allowing my audience or just people in the world to like deify me, to make me like superhuman or like, Like God, like idolizing. Yeah. Because he was basically like, once you buy into that, you can't go back to being human.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

You know what I'm saying? Like, you going to be just a mere mortal. Like, you ain't going to want to go back to that. You don't want to always be. Seem like you larger than life.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. Untouchable. Anyway.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. And I think I was struggling with just like all this new shit, you know, it's new. You know what I mean? Like, I'm worth it. I'm driving trucks. Is like.

[D' Angelo]

I was about to say, you just got that truck.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Right.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Last year. It's been a. It's a year from this week.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. So that's. That is a major change, you know, nine to five job to.

[Grizznet]

It's bad. You can bank on it. And I. I was over committing myself to too. Like, I was taking like two, three minutes a day. I was trying to do this podcast here. I'm trying to go there. I'm trying to like. I'm not saying no to anything because it's like, it's real now and I need to like. And like having all that free time, you feel like a little guilty in a way.

[D' Angelo]

Why you feel guilty?

[Grizznet]

Because it's like, I don't know.

[D' Angelo]

I don't know the feelings to explain it to me.

[Grizznet]

But that is because I never had. Had free time before.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

So I was like, am I doing something wrong? Like, even though on paper I'm. I'm like living my dream, but like all my friends still going to work and it's like, damn. All I know is going to work for like 50, 60 hours a week. So I don't know what to do with all this free time. So I was just filling up my time with shit and I was like, it was fucking with my priorities. It was fucking up like a lot of different shit because I was like trying to justify having all this time to myself. And so when we had our first few sessions, his thing was like, what's up with you? Like, why do you feel like you always gotta be doing something? He was like, you done worked so hard to get here. And he was like, now that you hear, it's like you trying to burn yourself out, like to make it seem like it's like you trying to burn Yourself out to justify not having a 9 to 5. He was like, not. He's like, there's a lot of people in the world that don't have nine to fives.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, that's true.

[Grizznet]

It's like, just. Cause that's not all you. This is all. You know, but like, you just in a different space in life, and it's like, you need to be okay with that. Like, some days you ain't got to do nothing.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. I would say just definitely enjoy the position that you worked for.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

You know what I'm saying?

[Grizznet]

I've been enjoying it. Like a.

[D' Angelo]

Definitely enjoy. Don't let it stress you off for sure. Because, like. Like I said, this social media stuff can get a little stressful, especially when you're trying to elevate. Like, every time you're trying to take stuff to the next level, it becomes a little bit more difficult. Like, even this setup, like, getting this building, getting it set up, getting your crew, and it's not. Bro, I'm sure that was stressful.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

I only can imagine, like, getting all this stuff together, like, getting it done, doing your research, doing your due diligence on what you need, who you need, how to do this, how to do that, and then the social media part. Yeah, then the social media part. I didn't even include that, but yeah,

[Grizznet]

it's a lot of stuff that you got to do off social media.

[D' Angelo]

Yes.

[Grizznet]

Just to make the social media look good.

[D' Angelo]

And they don't even. See. Nobody thinks about those parts, bro. Like, even for the UN Invitational, people saying, you should do this, this, this, and this, and have that, that, that, that. But then they don't realize, like, what come with it. Like, it's more. It's more. It's more stuff that's needed. If I do that, it's more this, more that. Like, people don't never think about, like, what they're not seeing, like, the behind the scenes. So.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. And the expenses, too.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

Just on a. In a real way. The expenses.

[D' Angelo]

The expenses. Always gonna be stressful.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, putting up that money.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. When I got to put that money, I'm stressed. I don't care how much it is, but I got to pull out that card on straight. For real.

[Grizznet]

How is it being. How. How has it been received as far as, like, what, your merch sales and things like that? Do you. Do people tend to buy. Buy it out pretty quick?

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, people tend to buy it out real quick. I think that's. I think that right there is just. It's like, it's like an add on, man. Like, I never wanted to sell clothes, man.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

I ain't never want to just sell clothes, bro. I'm not going to lie to you. That's not something that I wanted to do. But he was rocking with me and it was asking for. It was like, bro, we, we want it, we want it, we want it. So I felt obligated to do it. You know what I'm saying? And then they still supporting. Like, it wasn't just one time. It's a consistent support, bro. Like, my, my followers, were they really being rocking with me this past, what, probably nine months?

[Grizznet]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been a strong, like, you hit a nice. You hit a nice run. Yeah, it's been good. It's been cool to watch too, because I always like to see. It made me happy to see other people seeing success and shit like that. Especially when I know that you're doing something that's positive. And it's like, even with what you're saying about the clothing, it's like you've created a demand for something and that's not easy to do. A lot of people that make content, they aren't creating a demand for anything. They just kind of. Maybe it's commentary, maybe it's, you know, reviews or anything like that. But like, even with the, like Tony Fine, like, she's created a demand for something because she looks amazing.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

You know what I'm saying? And like, she looked good. Her dad got his stuff together. Like, he really. That guy. You know what I mean? And so I think for you to create a demand in a space where like, for one, oftentimes like male fitness and florists do too much.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

Or they always are. Like, sometimes they get into the scamming bag, sometimes they get into a predatory bag. And so like, for you to bend just like clean cut with yours and like make sure that you. It's about, it's about the fitness first. Like, that's really what it come down to. Yeah, yeah, man.

[D' Angelo]

It's a reason why, like, I didn't do certain things. Like, haven't did certain things yet because it will feel. Not. I. I wouldn't say scammy, but it'll feel like I'm just money hungry.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Like dropping an ebook.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Could I do that? Yes. Have I tried to do that? Like some drafts and stuff? Like, yes. But I don't want to put out no BS and just sell something just for money. And like we're just talking about earlier, I have A job. I'm not money hungry.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

I think that's what keeps me, it keeps me, it keeps me from just putting out BS just to make money.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Get money, get money, get me, get money. Everything that I do, it has a purpose or I feel like it's quality.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

That's why I don't train people. I don't train people simply because of the time I feel like I don't, I don't got the time to do it. And it's not something that I want to do right now. Now, if I was just money hungry, would I probably do that? Yeah.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Just tell them, hey, do some squad, do they do that? But I don't want to do that, man. I, I, I, I, I take pride in not being money hungry and just trying to, like, receive. Get money from everything in every way.

[Grizznet]

That's real, bro. I'm the same way. I don't really, I don't really see myself as like, somebody that's just like chasing a dollar, bro.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. I remember you said something about how you don't turn down, I think, sponsorships or brand deals. I think y' all said, no. No pills.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. None of the male enhancement pills. No gambling.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Grizznet]

And it's, and it's. And honestly, man, them, the bags they throw, like, they throw you them bags, I imagine. But for me, it's like, well, it's got to be other bags out there.

[D' Angelo]

Facts.

[Grizznet]

And I'm gonna turn these down like this. Just what y' all starting with? It's something else. It's something else for me.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

This ain't it.

[D' Angelo]

When you're not money hungry, bro, I think that's when you can you, your moral compass stays straight.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Hell yeah.

[D' Angelo]

When you're not money hungry, I know people say, get to the bad. Let's do this, let's do that. But when you get to a point where you financially. Okay. Don't sell your, your morals.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, for sure.

[D' Angelo]

And don't put out BS if you don't want it. If you don't like, for example, this shirt. If I don't want to wear this shirt, why the hell would I put it out?

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

You know what I'm saying?

[Grizznet]

Bingo.

[D' Angelo]

Same thing with a book. If I wouldn't buy the book myself, why the hell would I sell it?

[Grizznet]

Yeah, that's real. Yeah, it's a lot of. Especially on Tick Tock, man. It's just like Instagram used to be big on that back in the day. Like them ebooks.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

But I never really Seen the value in anything and then you gotta find out that people just throwing some shit together and selling it because, like, that's where the money is. Like, that's. You just hold on to it. It's fine. But I was like, I always wanna make sure, like, even with like the hats that I sell, like, I wanna make sure it was something I would rock. For real.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. And I'm finna rock one get that. I promise you.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. I always want to make sure that it's like something quality.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

And then it's something that like. Like you said it had to be something I would wear personally. It also had to be something that's like in demand. Like, there's certain shirts that like, shirt things on our merch site where people have requested it time and time again. It's like, that's the demand, bro. You got to like. Yeah, it's still a business, so. But it makes sense when people asking for it. It's not like I'm just constantly trying to sell, sell, sell.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

And that low key, like, I don't got the energy for that either.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. But it do take.

[Grizznet]

It feel fake.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. It do take time and energy, bro, to do BS too.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Yeah. But when you. What was that marathon that you had ran in New York? I had. Didn't you get like a Adidas had sent you some shoes or something?

[D' Angelo]

No, it was a new balance.

[Grizznet]

New balance.

[D' Angelo]

It wasn't. It wasn't New York. I was gonna sign up for a New York marathon, but it was in New York. I did the army 10 miller and I did. I did some half marathons in. In Virginia. I can't think of the name of.

[Grizznet]

What's a half marathon?

[D' Angelo]

Half marathon is 13.1 miles, but really it's about 14. Because these things be like, it'd be a little off and you ain't gonna run 13.1 exactly. And stop there. It'd be like closer to 14 miles. But. Yeah.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. I wish I. And then the full marathon. So the full marathon is what, 26.26.2.

[D' Angelo]

I know. I plan on doing one this year. Plan on doing one this year.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. How is. Man. Bruh. That's wild, bro.

[D' Angelo]

Bro, it's. It's different than what you think though, bro. I promise you. But this long distance running is not like.

[Grizznet]

Like you said, it's slow and control. Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

It's slow and controlled. Like you. If you get too tired, you slow down. And actually you don't even get to that point if you're getting too tired. You get it wrong. You just need to stay chill. You feel me? It feels good. It feel amazing, bro. I promise you. Yeah, running feels amazing. Now, other sports, you know, I mean, like I said, I don't. I don't try to push a. A specific one like power lifting, bodybuilding, or this or that CrossFit, but running, man, it feels good.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

I'm telling you, it feels good.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. I remember, though, like, if you really think about it, when we was kids, running was the shit.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. That was. That was the only thing we really did. They let sprint and they let her go on the run real quick. Like, that was. That was running. Was it?

[Grizznet]

That's all we needed.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

You know what I'm saying? All the games we played involved running.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. Barefoot, too.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, that part.

[D' Angelo]

Nigga be barefoot. I ain't doing that no more.

[Grizznet]

Nah. Yeah. Nah, we. We. We way past that. Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Hell, yeah.

[Grizznet]

What's some of your. What's some of your feelings about. How. Not. Not how things have been received, but, like, what's some of your thoughts about how people can stay more disciplined when they doing this stuff? Because, you know, like, I think. I think the thing more than anything, like, to your point, about how people like you enjoy seeing people cook.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

And things like that. I think that the discipline, like the food is the most disciplined part of the physical fitness. And it seemed boring to people. Like, everybody want excitement and everything. You know what I mean?

[D' Angelo]

I would say take baby steps. I would say it's building blocks. It's not like you get the whole building in one day. I think you should take it one step at a time and slowly do better day by day. For example, everybody know about tracking macros, right? I mean, put your food on the scale, stuff like that. Bro, if you. If you new to this, I wouldn't even recommend you pull out a scale. Just start eating healthier. Like, instead of. I don't know what people be eating, man.

[Grizznet]

The wings.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. Instead of wings, get you some lean ground beef.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Get you. All right. Instead of wings, go chicken thighs. Instead of. Instead of. If you want to go leaner, instead of chicken thighs, get a chicken breast, Get a. Get some lean ground beef, some lean ground turkey, something like that. Those are. Those small changes are building blocks, so eventually you start stepping up. Okay. Now you moving on from chicken thighs to the chicken breast. You feel me? And now instead of having fries as your size, you got sweet potatoes. Like, those slow changes, man. Make a. A big. A big change.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. And sweet potatoes good, too.

[D' Angelo]

They are, man. I just started eating them myself, bro. When I made that video about the sweet potatoes, bro, I had just started eating them, and, bro, I love sweet potatoes now.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. I. They. My kids, when we had started cooking them, like, more often, I probably eat them, like, once or twice a week now.

[D' Angelo]

You eating sweet potatoes like, once or twice a week? That's good.

[Grizznet]

It's good. It's soft. Yeah. But I ain't. But I'm tearing it up in other places.

[D' Angelo]

Boy, what you got? What you be having on it, though? Hold on. We talking about sweet potato. You probably loaded it up, but.

[Grizznet]

No, no, no. I just. I really. I really don't put nothing on it. Like, you don't really need nothing once it's cooked. Once it's cooked, like, once you bake it that certain? To a certain degree.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

It's good. But, like, you don't really need nothing because it's naturally sweet.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

So you don't really need to add anything to it. But I've been, like, on this thing where I'm just trying to make small changes at the crib.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

Cause I ain't gonna lie, like, boy, I had such a good time last year. Wow. Drinking too much, eating too much. I see my face get all swollen up.

[D' Angelo]

That face, bro. That face gonna tell it every time, bro, that fight.

[Grizznet]

I was looking at a picture of myself. I was like, damn, boy. I feel like I put on all the weight in my face.

[D' Angelo]

Oh, and I hate, bro, when you. That'd be my biggest fear. I ain't worried about the stomach. I ain't worried about nothing. I'm worried about the face where I be worried about the. The face. That's just me, though. You feel me? I will say your. Your lifestyle will make it more difficult, you know, being on the road, bro, when you're on the road, it's hard to eat healthy.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

When you. When you working 9 to 5, going back to 9 to 5. But when you work at 9 to 5, eating healthy, being on the schedule is easy. When you get on that road. And it used to be a truck driver, too. Yeah. Lord have mercy, man.

[Grizznet]

It wasn't. No. I've been literally on the road for, like, the last six, seven years of my life.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, bro, you. Yeah.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. You're gonna require.

[D' Angelo]

It's gonna require more discipline for you.

[Grizznet]

Hell, yeah.

[D' Angelo]

You're gonna have to really, like, be intentional about what you're eating, because when you. It's just so convenient to get some bs.

[Grizznet]

It is. It's everywhere.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

That's Another thing too is like at these events, even like last night at them events, me and Frank was at this TI event last night, bro. All the food they bring is like burgers, pizza, you know what I'm saying? Fries. Hella fries. They got more fries, bruh. It was too many damn fries in that place. And it's like, damn, bro. Like even if you, if you just think about it from that perspective, it's like it's always available to always, it's always, it's right there for you. So it's like you fuck around and just like by default, like even if you're not hungry, so you start drinking.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, grab. You don't care, you know, I mean

[Grizznet]

once you start drinking, no matter no more, you don't throw it out the window. You have. You say you ain't never drank?

[D' Angelo]

No, I never drank alcohol. Never did any drugs. Yeah, besides prescribed drugs, but yeah, for sure.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, for sure. You're a pure man.

[D' Angelo]

I guess you could say that, man.

[Grizznet]

Did you have any. Was it like anything that was intentional about that? Like you seen like alcoholism tearing folks up or drugs tearing folks up.

[D' Angelo]

I don't want to get too personal. Well, let me go back.

[Grizznet]

You ain't got to tell me like you ain't got to be super personal.

[D' Angelo]

But at first when I was young, when, when I was like 14, 15, my peers, they started drinking, smoking or whatnot. I just chose not to at that point, you feel me? I just felt like I wasn't supposed to be doing that, you feel me? So I just didn't. At that point when I got grown, I would say it became more intentional. Like I seen what drugs did to my family. Not so much alcohol, but I guess you can throw alcohol in there too. I seen what drugs and alcohol did to my family and it was nothing positive about it.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

And I have nothing against like people doing drugs, especially like marijuana. I have nothing against it, bro. You want to smoke? Smoke?

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

If I was going to smoke, it would definitely be that for sure. Wouldn't be anything else. But man, I, I always tell people like this may sound crazy, but I always tell people, bro, like a lot of the crackheads didn't start young. It sounds crazy, but.

[Grizznet]

Nah, that's real though. A lot of them was grown ups.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. Like they don't, they like people don't start hard drugs at a young age at least. And I'm speaking from not experience, but from what I've seen like within my family, they wasn't doing hard drugs at young ages. Like when it was 25, 26, 27, 28, it was only doing marijuana, cigarette, cigarettes, stuff like that. And then when they got up in age, that's when the hard drawers got introduced.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

That's when the hard drugs changed your life.

[Grizznet]

Hell, yeah. Like, it flip everything upside down.

[D' Angelo]

Yes. Like, it's like. And. And to the people who haven't experienced it, like, had seen family members on it and seen the direct effect of it, all I can say is it's just like the movies, you know? I mean, it's just like the shows, the movies, snowfall. They main priority is drugs. So I just steer clear of it, man. And I, I. It's just not something I get into. Now. Drinking, I always tell people, people ask me, like, will I ever drink? Maybe. You know, I do be tempted at times for referee. I do be tempted, but I think it'll have to be like a good celebration, you know, like, maybe I get married or something. If I get married, man, I might throw a shot back.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Yeah. You seem like you might be a wine man. You might be. You know what I'm saying? You might go, wine, real little red wine.

[D' Angelo]

I don't know. Because I got a tendency of smelling alcohol. Right. So I never draw alcohol, but I do like smelling the alcohol and crown apple smell lovely. I think that would be probably the first one that I tried. And despite what people say about it, like, I. Sometimes I don't hear good things about crown, but crown apple smells so good. Yeah, that. That was. That was the one that really tempted me. Yeah. I apologize. Some crown apple.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. On the. On. On. On the wedding day.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. My. Yeah. Similar, though. Family, like, family is a. I seen drugs just take fold down, bro.

[D' Angelo]

Yes.

[Grizznet]

Alcohol, too, in a. In a crazy way. I know. It's a. It's a few people in my family that like, either drink way too much or they just don't drink at all.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

You know what I'm saying? Because. Because like, we got some folks in our family that's just like, man, they bad off that liquor, bro.

[D' Angelo]

I think it's hard to find like a middle range like you said. I think it's either people that don't do it or people that do it heavy. Like, I think it's hard to stay in that middle range. Don't get wrong. It is people that do it is people that just drink socially, not like on a daily or weekly basis. It's people that drink socially, but it's less coming to find on people.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Hell yeah. Especially out here, bro. Yeah, he's drinking all the time. Every day, bro. Socially, too. And it's like. And you don't think it's crazy because you like, oh, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm out, I'm at an event or I'm at a party or I'm like, it's like you doing that three, four times a week fast.

[D' Angelo]

And, and like we, bro. I, I, I don't like talking about we, but then I do simply because like weed, I feel like it, it, I feel like it's a. Okay drug to do. I do feel like that.

[Grizznet]

For real.

[D' Angelo]

For real. But I feel like we can be abused. I feel like weed can be harming to, to depending on how you use it. Like, if you do, there's definitely some

[Grizznet]

folks out here that smoke way too much weed.

[D' Angelo]

Like, I think, I think if you smoking, I don't know how you may feel.

[Grizznet]

I don't smoke neither.

[D' Angelo]

I think if you smoking three times a day, three, three blunts a day, bro, it may be harming you in some way. Like, that's a lot of.

[Grizznet]

It's some folks that's like, Especially like, I haven't been around certain artists or

[D' Angelo]

that's what it be. Artists that's a lot like, they literally

[Grizznet]

just like chain smoking blunts.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, bro.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. It's crazy.

[D' Angelo]

I got a cousin like that, bro. He gonna see this. And black, bro. Why didn't he talk about me? But, but be smoking like, like I see, cuz I don't think ever, ever sober. Like, what I mean by that is he may smoke three blunts a day, right? But then in between those blunts, he got black ma. Then also he got some drinks in between. So I was like, golly, something stay in your mouth, pa. Something stay something standing, man. But like, let's just say three months a day, two cigars and then drinks in between, bro. Your body is hurting.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Your body going through hell.

[Grizznet]

It got, I ain't gonna lie. After, like, after a night of drinking, like, were you doing it too much? When you wake up the next day, you be feeling that so bad to the point where you'd be like, I ain't never drinking no more.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

And then you go somewhere, they drinking and you back in action.

[D' Angelo]

And the fit that food, I mean, that smoking having the same effect that food have on you. So it was a time where I'm going back to food right now, but I got this out of hand program still getting too crazy. But it was so, it was a time, you know, how people say you eat for fuel. It was a time where I couldn't tell the difference. So, like, man, if I ate McDonald's versus if I ate a good meal, I really couldn't tell the difference. Right. Like, I was just like, bro, I feel the same. I feel regular. But then when you start working out, that's when you start. You. You can feel what you put in your body, like, trying to. If. When you start working out consistently, all right. Start running, you know? I mean, like, in my case, start running, bro. If you eat some sweet potatoes, some ground beef, and go on a run, it feels different than when you put McDonald's in your body. Way different. Yeah, because one of them gonna have you feeling like, bro, I gotta stop. I might gotta throw up. And then one of them gonna have you feeling like, bro, I'm full of energy. I can just go like you just bouncing around, like you can tell the difference. And I think you gotta, like, work out for real to tell the difference. That, like, gotta, like, get into it at the space.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, yeah. I think if you're in a sedentary space, all food just have the same effect.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Grizznet]

It ain't doing that. Yeah, for sure. That's really what it come down to. I. I've. I was started back going to the bed and cages like maybe three months ago.

[D' Angelo]

You played baseball?

[Grizznet]

I played baseball when I was coming up.

[D' Angelo]

Hey, I did too, bruh.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, baseball was the.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, I tell people, bro, believe it or not, baseball was my favorite sport.

[Grizznet]

Me too.

[D' Angelo]

I just. I love it because that. What do.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. And you tired as so, you know, always gonna want to pick you up.

[D' Angelo]

Anyway, like, baseball was fun, bro.

[Grizznet]

Baseball, my favorite, bro. I. I was. I was trying to find. I was trying to find, like, some type of entry point just to get him back active.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

So. And I hadn't swung him back in so long, but that was my shit. Baseball was my shit. So I was like, I'm gonna do that, man.

[D' Angelo]

You were sore.

[Grizznet]

Sore as hell. And also, like, so out of touch with that shit. Like, you think in your mind, like, man, I'm gonna go pick up the bat and get. Nah, man. The hand. Eye coordination, it take a little while to get that back. It take a little while to get, like, just your swing back developed and like, the technique. Yeah. So I've been trying to go like once a week, you know, like, with the tour, it make it a little difficult because, like, the day to day just dealing with everything is on me.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

So I may have the Company that set up the dates and make sure everything is alignment as far as like all the technical stuff. But I gotta sell the tickets, I gotta pay for the merch, I gotta make sure the team get there. I like everything on me. That, that do get expensive, but it's also like, it's like an investment. Like, yeah, you put in now, you get back later.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, you're gonna get the money back. But the problem what people. When people hear you're gonna get the money back, so it'd be okay. They don't realize, bro, it's still stressful. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get the money. I'm putting this money up front now.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, I'm putting it up front. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I gotta wait for it to come back.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, facts, bro. People don't be realizing that. That's why, bro, when people. I've noticed this, like when selling clothes, bro, like. Supporting people sometimes, bro. Support people, like without asking for discounts or asking for favors or whatnot.

[Grizznet]

Yeah,

[D' Angelo]

support people, black people, without asking for a discount, bro. Just support. Like the support is the, Is the, is the money part. Yeah, Like.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, because these people didn't invested their money.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah. I think they don't realize.

[Grizznet]

I think, I think for whatever reason, like, people think that like you could just go print up 100 t shirts for free.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, bro, that money came from somewhere, bro.

[Grizznet]

Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, it came from you. It's like, so I agree, bro.

[Grizznet]

It came from me working.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

Like, I went to work and had to bring their money back. You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't want to. I'm up in my check to make sure that I could provide, you know, And I think, yeah, please start asking folks for like discounts, especially stuff that like, they. They've arrived at these price points for a reason. Yeah, like, it's no real point of just like selling it to break even. You want to profit, you want to

[D' Angelo]

make some money because like, you put your time and energy into it.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. You deserve to make something. You know what I'm saying? And cost of materials are high sometimes, you know, the printing process or just the production process can be expensive sometimes. Yeah, man. Support folks in a real way, man. Stop supporting people. Trying to get 50 off and like that, bro.

[D' Angelo]

Because really, that ain't even supporting, really. You may be hurting me, man. In a way. I may be paying for you to support me.

[Grizznet]

I'm basically by. Yeah, I'm paying for you to get a shirt.

[D' Angelo]

That is crazy.

[Grizznet]

That's crazy. Yeah, I'm hustling backwards at this point. Yeah, man, I appreciate you pulling up. Is it anything that you wanted to, you know, make people aware of before we go or you want to tell people? I mean, by the time this come out, Uncle Olympics will be over. But how they could support you on online.

[D' Angelo]

Well, I want to say I hope the unitational is a good turnout. I don't know what the narrative narrative is going to be after the Unknown Invitational, but I'm a bit nervous but excited to see though. You feel me? I hope it's a great turnout. I hope it ends up good. But if you want to support me, man, go, you know, go follow me on TikTok D' Angelo 1012. Same thing on Twitch. D' Angelo 1012. Also, if you want to support me in the out of hand program, make sure you're eating healthy and working out, you feel me? I think that's the best way you can support me though. Yeah, by doing that, man.

[Grizznet]

Where can I get the merch?

[D' Angelo]

Oh, the link in my bio. Yeah, on, on my Instagram and my tick tock d' angelo 1012_ on Instagram. Dancelow 1012 on tick tock.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, well, you've been streaming,

[D' Angelo]

so let's

[Grizznet]

talk about it because I seen. Because yeah, before we get up out of here, I seen those little mini right there where you were streaming a little bit.

[D' Angelo]

So this I bought, I bought the desktop, right. Bought the PC and the camera and everything, you know, because you know stream became trendy, right? I was like, yeah, let me try it out. It seems like something I would like to do and I do like streaming. But what they don't tell you is you got to sit down for that time the whole time to my butt sweat like tired like you, you, you, you got to sit there and it's fun because time goes by and it's entertaining you engaging with people. But it's difficult to just sit it, especially like when you're busy, when you got stuff to do. I think streaming more so people who ain't got nothing to do. I got stuff to do. I gotta go go places and all type stuff. Like I said, I'm a father too. So. But back to it, I got, I just got streaming phones so I can stream like on the go now. So now I gotta sit down in that day at the desktop. So yeah, you should see me streaming more. I'm gonna be streaming the unitational for sure. But yeah, I just, I just got some streaming Phones too, I bet.

[Grizznet]

Send me. Send me the link so I could check y' all out while I'm. While I'm gone. Because I'm be. I'll be. Where will I be at on Saturday? I'll be in Birmingham.

[D' Angelo]

Well, you just on the go, boy. How often is your. How often is your. Your shows?

[Grizznet]

We doing one? Either. It's either every week or every other week.

[D' Angelo]

Okay. So.

[Grizznet]

But it's just five. It's five cities to start out. We starting out small. We gotta prove our ticket sales. We gotta prove that, you know, we gotta prove we could put the butts in the seats, man. Yeah, but I mean, the first show we did sold out Charlotte, sold out. Raleigh was the first show it sold out. And then we got a Nashville and a Jacksonville show. That's all. Like, they only got like 15 tickets left for each, so they almost sold out. And then I'm going to Birmingham tomorrow and Saturday to link with some local creatives. Yeah, because we. We probably. I think we a 70% sold in the show next week. So I'm gonna go do some radio, just make some awareness and make sure people know we coming. So do some content out there.

[D' Angelo]

So how is the show, though? Like, how was it like the first show? How was the turnout like, aside from ticket sales? Like, how was it like?

[Grizznet]

Man, Brad, people, it was so much love now, bro. Yeah, man. I don't think that people are getting that experience. I think they feel like they really involved with something. They're involved in a movement. They could feel the community aspect of it because people get in there and they talk to each other and they get to know people that they didn't know before they came. So it's a great place for people to gather among other like minded people because I think there's an aspect that. Because we doing them all at comedy venues that we're doing comedy.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

And it's like, nah, it's nice what I do on the show.

[D' Angelo]

Serious thought.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, we get it. Get real.

[D' Angelo]

You get some laughs in there, though.

[Grizznet]

We're gonna get some laughs, man. That's naturally what we're gonna do anyway.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah.

[Grizznet]

But yeah, it gets serious. And I think with the subject matter of this tour specifically, people really are engaged in it and really like, man, they have something to say too, you know? So I leave room for the audience to speak and chime in. And it was very like, it was profound in a way where it was like, I really could feel the energy of people, like being on the same page and they felt together you know what I mean?

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Grizznet]

So I'm happy with the turnout. I feel like I'm low key at my best on the stage. Like, it just feels so natural for me, man.

[D' Angelo]

Do you want to be on stage or in the podcast room? Which one you think? Which one? Your preference?

[Grizznet]

I. I think, I think the original, I think just the, the original format at the crib. Me and Big Cat.

[D' Angelo]

Where is Big Cat?

[Grizznet]

His ass gone. His ass at the crib, man. He getting ready because we leave, we leave early in the morning.

[D' Angelo]

Okay.

[Grizznet]

And I've been, I've been gone all day. So I, I did, I had a podcast this morning at 11. I did two podcasts before I came over there.

[D' Angelo]

Yeah, you be on the go.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. Moving. So. Yeah, but I, I think I'm slowly starting to really like the stage more, man.

[D' Angelo]

Okay.

[Grizznet]

It's a different show. It's very interactive. You know, people are there, you know what I mean? So. I love people, man. I love, I love, I love our community. I love what we building and I think what we doing is like having a real impact on people in real time. Yeah, you can't beat that with a Batman.

[D' Angelo]

That's tough, bro. You, you definitely have a bit of community, you, bro. You don't like everybody tell you where you don't win. Yeah. You know, I mean like quick too. Yeah, that's tough. You don't see that too often, bro. Like, most people have to work at this for like years on years on years to get the platform to even get close to where you at. You know what I'm saying?

[Grizznet]

Yeah, people.

[D' Angelo]

I know people with platforms that have been going seven, eight years, they not know where near where you at. So that's. Yeah, that means you're doing something right.

[Grizznet]

I'm grateful, bro.

[D' Angelo]

I'm glad you allowed me to come here too, man.

[Grizznet]

Yeah, for sure, man. I rock with you, man.

[D' Angelo]

I really, I really do appreciate it. And I'm. Bro, my brother, he was excited, bro. Yeah, he. He's a big fan, bro. And he supports you, bro.

[Grizznet]

For real. We'll go holl at him in a minute. I appreciate you though, for pulling up. I think what you're doing is like extremely necessary. It's motivating me more than anything. So it's like, you know, I know, I know. I gotta finally turn that corner. But when I do gone, we gonna try to get us, like I said, a six minute mile. I ain't realized like how crazy that was.

[D' Angelo]

Hey, boy. Hey boy. Hey.

[Grizznet]

I was joking around like, yo, I'M having six minute mile.

[D' Angelo]

Yes. I ain't realized though, boy, you're going to be moving.

[Grizznet]

Yeah. How fat? What's your average on my time a mile? Nine.

[D' Angelo]

Nah, 620. Yeah, I ran a 640.

[Grizznet]

I did a C40 in the truth. Yeah, you the truth, man. D', Angelo, appreciate you pulling up, bro.

[D' Angelo]

Thank you, brother. I appreciate it.

[Grizznet]

This is Grizznet's podcast episode where we. We don't know, you know, it's 100 or something. It's 100 something. It'll be out in a few weeks. What? Well, I mean, it's out now if you're watching. We'll see you next time. I don't ever know how to sign off, Man. Yeah.

[D' Angelo]

They say without the proper labor faith don't stand a chance I put my

[Grizznet]

faith and faith and stand on fertile land I planted seeds Adeline Deed turning

[D' Angelo]

the trees before rest in peace teas

[Grizznet]

get printed to me.