Episode 147 - A Populace of Fanatics

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast: Episode 147 – “A Populace of Fanatics” (May 19, 2026) Host: Deante’ Kyle
Featured Co-host: Big Ice Cupcat

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Episode Overview

In this raw and unfiltered, extended episode of Grits and Eggs, Deante’ Kyle and Big Ice Cupcat dive deep into American society’s evolving identity: from oligarchy, stan culture, and power structures, to the pitfalls of competition and the vulnerability in community. Along the way, they roast current events, conspiracies, and pop culture, all with their signature Southern humor and camaraderie. The episode features advice segments for young listeners, vibrant discussions on hip-hop’s state, and sharp critiques of both American politics and spiritual movements.

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Key Themes & Discussion Points

1. Life Updates, Upcoming Events, and Tour Talk

[00:06–05:00]

• The podcast returns after a brief hiatus, with shoutouts to tour cities and upcoming live shows in Philly and at the Regent Theater for BET Week.
• References to personal events, health (Deante’ battling sickness), and the importance of using proper communication channels for merch/support (deontaykyle.com).

2. America—Not a Democracy, But an Oligarchy

[06:28–14:50]

• Deante’ and Big Ice Cupcat critique attempts to undo the Voting Rights Act and voter suppression via redistricting.
• Deante’ [06:53]: “If [your] vote doesn’t matter, then why take it away? Why go through all these efforts?”
• They argue the democratic process is a “veil” masking an oligarchy benefitting billionaires and CEOs, citing Project 2025 and post-Obama politics.
• Deante’ [08:43]: “It’s an oligarchy. … your defense measures have to be rooted in dismantling the efforts of an oligarchy, not in the restoration of a democracy.”

3. Disillusionment with Politics & Power Structures

[10:39–15:00]

• Skepticism about politicians, noting the few “for the people” are memorable because there are so few: “There are not enough good politicians to support.”
• Critique of playing by “democratic” rules in a rigged game.
• Big Ice Cupcat [13:32]: “If we’re honest about what it is … you can attack it.”

4. Populace Worship and Billionaire Obsession

[15:21–19:44]

• Satirical commentary on American pop culture’s obsession with the ultra-rich (Saudi oil families, extravagant purchases).
• Big Ice Cupcat [19:09]: “I haven’t seen these many niggas sucking the dick of billionaires. I mean you niggas … glazing don’t even begin.”

5. Conspiracy, Distrust & Brainwashing

[19:49–22:00]

• Jokes about tap water conspiracies (fluoride, “flint-ride,” “fit ride”), and the brainwashing effects of media/Internet threads.
• Dismisses the Internet as "not a real place," but acknowledges its real-world influence on narratives and antagonism.

6. Internet Racism & Violent Events

[22:23–30:15]

• Discussion of “Chud the Builder” (a white live streamer notorious for racist provocations) being arrested for a Tennessee courthouse shooting.
• Outrage at how the public raised $130K for Chud’s defense, but positive note that the black victim’s GoFundMe earned $244K.
• Deante’ [28:13]: “This Chud the builder made a name for himself by calling black people niggers on a livestream … And a populace raised $130,000 for him within the week.”

7. Giving Back to the Community

[30:31–33:55]

• The team highlights their current charity and scholarship activities, praising black youth and black women’s achievements.
• Full celebration of Keith Lee’s inaugural Family Festival—“20,000 people for an inaugural festival, that’s no small feat”—and the importance of being Christ-like in the community.

8. Music Critique, Hip-Hop Beef & Stan Culture

[36:10–47:02]

• Review of new Drake albums—“Iceman,” “Maid of Honor”—and the lingering Drake vs. Kendrick beef.
• The hosts express weariness over internet standom and recycled beef narratives, emphasizing objectivity and the problem of “stan culture.”
  • Deante’ [41:52]: “I don’t have an allegiance to niggas because I like they music.”
  • Criticism of “plug and play” Drake music, inflated danger claims about Toronto, and the toxicity of superfan culture.
  • Deante’ [46:36]: “Stan culture is a byproduct of social media and a conspiracy of the ruling class to control access to true and unbiased freedom of press.”

9. Power, Journalism, and The “Population of Fanatics”

[47:02–52:15]

• Examination of the death of true journalism, and rise of tribalism (fanatic worship replacing critique and logic).
• Sports fanaticism as an allegory for political and entertainment standom.
• Deante’ [50:28]: “Journalists, they investigate power. How many things have been uncovered through just true blue, honest… journalism?”

10. Tribalism, Biological Instincts & Right-Wing Populism

[52:15–56:08]

• Discussion of tribal instincts, being ostracized (“lone wolf” myth), and how populist/conservative movements co-opt tribal fears.
• The right’s fixation on “God, family, country,” billionaire worship, and why freedom is only important to them when it suits their worldview.
• Deante’ [55:06]: “For them, freedom of speech [is] only worth defending when it benefits your ability to degrade people, but not their ability to criticize your beliefs.”

11. “Stay Woke” & The History of Black Enlightenment

[57:34–60:22]

• Reflection on white America’s anxiety over black joy and resilience; enlightenment as freedom from blindly-followed religion and paranoia.
• Defends the deeper meaning of “stay woke” as not merely a meme, but a crucial tool for survival and critical witness.
  • Deante’ [59:02]: “When black people gave the world ‘stay woke,’ it was a warning. It was an imperative … Trust what you see and what you feel and not what you’re being told.”

12. More on Stan Culture & Rooting Identity in Entertainment & Politics

[61:08–66:47]

• Deante’ expands on the danger of making politicians, artists, or brands part of personal identity rather than tools to serve the community.
• Critiques the commercialization of culture and how personalities become substitutes for principles.

13. Stan Culture as Religion & Vulnerabilities of Spiritual Seekers

[66:48–72:55]

• Draws parallels between stan culture and religious fanaticism—Jesus as the "original" superstar.
• Deep dive into the “carbonation” cult targeting black people disillusioned with traditional religion: why people are vulnerable after deconstructing faith, and how cult leaders manipulate the need for community.
  • Deante’ [71:47]: “Only thing he does is take the same structure of organized religion and infuse it with a lot of new age spirituality, a lot of esoteric knowledge.”

14. Humorous Takeover Fantasies and Critiques of Black Cult Movements

[75:08–85:58]

• Satirical segment of Deante’ and crew imagining taking over the carbonation operation in Costa Rica, reinforcing the absurdities of cult leadership and manipulation.
• References to health, hygiene, and spiritual claims in cult spaces.

15. Final Reflections—Competition vs. Community in Black Culture

[94:11–102:03]

• Celebrates the flourishing of black filmmakers, actors, and the shift away from forced comparison and “GOAT” debates: “Black entertainment and greatness is boundless, yet limited with the obsession of competition.”
• Deante’ [97:08]: “When your critique is rooted in competition, when your critique is rooted in being a fanatic, it limits the bounds of greatness and entertainment.”
• Urges moving beyond scarcity and competition to embrace community, collaboration, and mutual inspiration.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (w/ Timestamps)

• On manipulated democracy:
  “If it doesn’t matter, then why take it away? … All of this was in Project 2025.” – Deante’ [06:53]
• On oligarchy:
  “It’s an oligarchy … your defense measures have to be rooted in dismantling the efforts of an oligarchy.” – Deante’ [08:43]
• On billionaire worship:
  “I haven’t seen these many niggas sucking the dick of billionaires … your PO ass don’t have nothing to pass down to your child.” – Big Ice Cupcat [19:09]
• On tribalism and journalism:
  “It’s meant to hack the innate instinct to be tribal. Now we dealing with niggas … Journalists, they investigate power.” – Deante’ [50:10–50:41]
• On stan culture:
  “Stan culture is … a conspiracy of the ruling class to control access to true and unbiased freedom of press.” – Deante’ [46:36]
  “You niggas have actively utilized stan culture as a personality.” – Deante’ [15:28]
• On personal identity and politics:
  “Politicians are meant to serve the people. … [They're] not meant to be an extension of your personality.” – Deante’ [62:49]
• On competition in black entertainment:
  “We can evolve past this need for competition … The access is no longer limited, and we don’t need to compare people at their peaks.” – Deante’ [96:36–102:52]

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Advice Segment Highlights

[104:13–132:55]

• Building Community Moving to a New City:
  • Seek out black-owned coffee shops, bookstores, and community events; show your face and start networking. – [106:34]
• Post-Grad Unemployment Depression:
  • Persevere, refuse to break, and remember change will come; reach out for opportunities via the Grits & Eggs network. – [111:32]
• Harsh Job Situations, Career Transitions:
  • Trust your adaptability, consider your partner, don’t delay getting certifications; embrace cities with better support systems (e.g., Seattle). – [127:13]
• L&D Field (Learning and Development):
  • Direct advice for burned-out teachers transitioning to L&D; appeal to the cousin community for leads or mentorship. – [119:08]
• Supporting Youth in STEM:
  • Highlighting a listener’s call for funding her son’s participation in a leadership forum for gifted, STEM-interested children.

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Running Jokes & Memorable Exchanges

• On billionaire wealth:
  “The estimated value of the Saudi oil family is unlimited. As long as there’s an earth, them niggas is rich.” – Big Ice Cupcat [17:26]
• On cults and leadership:
  “I’m not worshipping a nigga in a house. … You might get me … on open land.” – Deante’ [84:17]
• On Drake & rap beef:
  “That Iceman album was okay. … That’s a Drake album. I don’t know why everybody won’t just admit this.” – Deante’ [36:49]
• On cult leader Nature Boy:
  “How you go from Costa Rica to a three-bedroom, two-bath in Stone Mountain … 20 y’all in the house?” – Big Ice Cupcat [84:13]
• On jumping into the unknown in relationships/careers:
  “You got to jump, brother.” – Deante’ [132:18]

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Concluding Segment

[132:55–End]

• The hosts reiterate their focus on community, announce the episode’s milestone length, and encourage listeners to “like, share, subscribe, hype the video.”
• Final note: “These niggas ain’t your gods. They’re just men. … Individualism is important, but community is the end all, be all.” – Deante’ [97:53]

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For Listeners

• Full of humor, introspective breaks, cultural criticism, and practical wisdom—this episode is a masterclass in authentic Southern podcasting, keeping black culture at the center.
• Advice, cultural critique, and jokes all flow together in classic Grits and Eggs bromance style.

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[Selected Timestamps to Jump To]

• [06:53] – On voting rights and Project 2025
• [14:51] – Recognizing the oligarchy and defending against it
• [19:09] – America’s fetish with billionaires
• [28:13] – Outrage at racist Internet streamer
• [36:59] – On Drake, diss albums, and pop rap
• [46:36] – Stan culture and the death of journalism
• [55:06] – Right-wing tribalism & freedom of speech
• [59:02] – “Stay woke” as a black imperative
• [97:08] – Competition and community in black entertainment
• [106:34] – Advice on community building in a new city
• [111:32] – Graduate discouraged by job market
• [127:13] – Life/career advice, leap of faith for black couples

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Bottom Line

This episode is a searing (yet funny) meditation on power, culture, and the human need for belonging. “A Populace of Fanatics” both challenges and celebrates black community, urging listeners to think critically, let go of blind allegiances, and center collective achievement over competition.

Transcript

[Deontay]

Yeah.

[Narrator/Rapper]

Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty south with a dirty mouth my knee orbit miss things things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my bitch no rest fusion she gorgeous as I d my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead tell them we gonna get this money to my pockets Mor remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't gotta like a regardless baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me we like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee Flick your cigarette and let a vent yeah, we

[Poet/Spoken Word Artist]

back

[Big Ice Cupcat]

oh, we back Grits and eggs Pod. I'm your host, Deontay Kyle. But who's behind the camera?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

The coolest coast in the world. An owner of the Kumbaya coffee shop.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Big ice cub cat big ice cup. Yeah, man, we back in the building.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

We back, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You boys are back in town. Yeah, we back. We've been out of town. We've been out of town.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Now we're back in town.

[Deontay]

Now we back in town for sure.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Man,

[Deontay]

I don't even.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I feel like I ain't recorded here in quite some time.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I feel like I haven't seen his room in mages.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay]

The road's been good to us.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, the road's been good, man. Shout out to all my folks in the land.

[Narrator/Rapper]

The land, baby.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

We're gonna be there in a minute.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

BET Week, June 25th.

[Deontay]

Grizznegs live at the Regent Theater. Oh, hold on.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

What's happening, man?

[Deontay]

Look, man, you know, we've been. We've been doing our thing, man. We also have Grizzly's podcast live show, June 18th.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, well, we hit with the June

[Big Ice Cupcat]

18th, son, but we at the city of brotherly Love.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Goddamn Philly son.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Philadelphia.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, Philadelphia. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Killadelphia.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, I hope not.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I hope that was hot summer. Show us brotherly love. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we up there. Brotherly love.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Brotherly love up there in Philly, man.

[Deontay]

Yeah, we'll be there.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We actually have. It's.

[Deontay]

It's like a legendary theater there, too. Okay, I forget exactly. I don't. I don't have the. The details I got, but, man, me and the manager.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

I mean, we take so damn much.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

We talk so much.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Just a lot be going on.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So much business going on. You know what I'm saying? We'll just know we'll be in Philly, but that.

[Deontay]

That.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That the details will roll out and

[Deontay]

probably by the time this drop, I have all of them and we'll put

[Big Ice Cupcat]

them on the screen.

[Deontay]

We'll put them on the description.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We.

[Deontay]

I am hosting united wheel film festival Juneteenth Philadelphia. But grizzly's podcast live show June 18th.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You ain't got to go to work the next day.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

You don't.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You ain't got to go to work next day.

[Deontay]

Come out there.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Have a. Have a little drink, listen to big chat on the ones and twos, and come do knowledge.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Come do the knowledge.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Come do knowledge.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay]

Shout out to Philly, man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay]

DEONTAYANTE Kyle.com for all booking and inquiries. Yeah, adviceyontecy.com for all advice. We got a couple of advice segments today.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And then if you have any issues

[Deontay]

at all, if you have issues with merch, if you have any issues at all, support deontaycow.com it's very important. Y' all are dming me about that. You're supposed to hit support about.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

If you DM me about a problem you having that, let me know.

[Deontay]

You don't watch the show for real.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Cause it's all being said in the first five. In the first five. I'm telling you everything you.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

Now, deontaykyle.com is where it's all at. This is where it all lives.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

It all lives there, baby.

[Deontay]

It's all there. You can go to deontaykyle.com and hit

[Big Ice Cupcat]

the events tab, and that's how you're gonna get all your tickets. You hit the gallery tab. And if you took pictures with us on tour, that's where your pitch is.

[Deontay]

Hey.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And we email them directly to you.

[Poet/Spoken Word Artist]

Any.

[Deontay]

Any issues that you might have support at deontay.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But anything you want to know.

[Deontay]

Latest episode. Hey, new merch. Hey, how to get in that Patreon?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, $8.

[Deontay]

Deontayky.com 657234X that's 657-234-3447. I feel like I haven't said that in a while.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

It's been a minute.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, we got a couple voicemails today. Hey, now, another thing you do with

[Deontay]

that number is call it when we

[Big Ice Cupcat]

do our cousin club live stream. But $8.

[Deontay]

You got to be in the patreon.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Man, we missed y', all, man.

[Deontay]

Yeah, man, this was not.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Not coming.

[Deontay]

Last week was rough.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And, you know, we was home, but

[Deontay]

I was sick Man, I mean,

[Caller 1]

I

[Deontay]

thought I had that hunter.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh my. A lot of rats. What was this? Over the rats?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I don't know, man. What part was we had? Man, who's over the rats?

[Deontay]

Nashville got rats. Nashville ain't seen no rats in Nashville. Seen a big ass rat in LA though.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, that might have been it.

[Deontay]

As soon as they told me the lady landed in California, I said fire up those engines.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Fire em up right now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Get me the fuck out of here.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

The quickest Delta flight right now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Then they called me, then they said two motherfuckers landed in Georgia too.

[Deontay]

I said, God damn it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know, all this to cover up the fact that Disney has a sex trafficking ring on the Disney cruise ships. I mean, goddamn Mickey the Mouse.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Mickey the fucking Mouse.

[Deontay]

Minnie the Moocher, Goofy, all you niggas. Goddamn Elmer Fudd, Elmer Fuddy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey man, listen man.

[Deontay]

These niggas are doing now we call Covid a hoax.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But I, I, the, the, the, the

[Deontay]

degree of death that this virus carries. Yeah, let me know that this was actually just a cover up. They're just trying to, they, they, they're trying to shift that attention.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey man, listen man, this administration is doing a lot of things to shift the attention away from the fact that

[Deontay]

they are all fucking pedophiles and sex traffickers.

[Caller 1]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yes.

[Deontay]

This first 10 minutes of the episode,

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

you know, we're going with it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay]

First 10 minutes of the episode, you

[Big Ice Cupcat]

know, I was, it was last minute

[Deontay]

and I couldn't make it. But I was invited to Montgomery to go down there to protest for basically the undoing of the Voting Rights act and basically just making it where, not only where you vote, gutting it to the point where they redistricting things where you don't have any political power or impact, but getting the vote to the point where it's gonna feel like it don't matter.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now you got a lot of people

[Deontay]

out here who telling you that your vote doesn't matter and you shouldn't participate in the voting process because it doesn't matter anyway. Now I have a criticism on that that we will get to a little later. But to that sentiment, if it doesn't matter, then why take it away? Why go through all these efforts? Now there is the need for a 2/3 majority so they can start working towards getting a 3 4th majority so that they can basically rewrite the Constitution. Right now all of this was in Project 2025.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I guess you didn't think that they

[Deontay]

was gonna act this fast, but they own it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now let me tell you something about the issue that I'm having with this right. It's not the fact that we're going

[Deontay]

and we're protesting, we're going back to marching.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And the only true activism if they trying to take away your vote is to exercise your vote. That's only if we talking about the democratic process and they trying to remove you from the democratic process, then the only true act of protest is voting when they try to tell you a vote doesn't matter when blood has been shed over this voting process by black people for the better part of two centuries. Now. I have one minor just.

[Deontay]

I'm not going to take up too much of your time.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now I feel like the reason why your democratic efforts fall short or flop altogether is because there is a refusal to acknowledge America as it truly is, which is not a democracy.

[Deontay]

It's an oligarchy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

If we are an oligarchy, then your defense measures have to be rooted in dismantling the efforts of an oligarchy, not in the restoration of a democracy. They're way past democracy. They're not thinking democratically.

[Deontay]

These are not democratic people.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now they're using the democratic process as a veil to not only make you feel included, but a way to backdoor in their processes which only benefit a very small percentage of tech billionaires, a very small percentage of corporate CEOs and a very small percentage of the most sold out politicians that exist, including your president. Now it seems that their efforts are invincible.

[Deontay]

The things they do, the things that

[Big Ice Cupcat]

they do are invincible to the efforts of more democratic people. But it's because they are not involved in a democratic process. And when you look at the things that Mayor Brandon Johnson, his efforts are

[Deontay]

a little bit more socialist. Mondani efforts, a little more socialist.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They got my boy in Baltimore in

[Deontay]

hot water right now. But same thing, it's a socialist act.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Because if you gonna make the only way to fight a party that's trying to do a lot for a little bit of people is to do a lot for a lot of people. You gotta even the score. You gotta tip the scale. And it's about the people that's in power in those places tipping that scale, not running it up the ladder, not involving themselves in the quote unquote democratic process, but making executive decisions for the betterment of the people.

[Deontay]

But then you have to have politicians in there that you can trust and you gotta have politicians in there that's for the people. And then you have to also reframe a lot of people's mentality towards politicians. Including me. Including me. I'm not a big fan of politicians. I feel like all them niggas are liars. I feel like they ought to get their money.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And the thing is, the ones that I see that are doing stuff for the people, I always give them props. Here's the thing. I don't know every corrupt politician by name. I do know all the ones who I support by name. That means there's not enough. That means there are not enough good politicians to support. That means there are not enough politicians who are for the people. If I know them all by name when the vast majority of them are corrupt, and I could name you, I couldn't even rattle off 20 of them to you right now. I just know you did what I'm saying because you see the system, you see the fruits of the system.

[Deontay]

It's just one of them. It's one of them things, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I think that the acknowledgment, because it's like, yeah, they're trying to kill democracy. No, they've already moved on from democracy in our big government.

[Deontay]

They have moved on from democracy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And if we're being honest long since, I think when we start looking at

[Deontay]

the first, you know, you know, and we're not ranked presidencies here, I'm not gonna sit here and make it seem like Obama was some motherfucking saint. That nigga. That nigga was tearing the Middle east up.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Kill Gaddafi.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now, here's the thing.

[Deontay]

This is your textbook American president, though. Charismatic, you know, the. Well, smoking.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The people love you.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Only people that dislike Obama in Obama's

[Deontay]

era was just white people.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, that's it.

[Poet/Spoken Word Artist]

And.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And that. Shut. That tell you everything you need to know about America. Because if he was. If he was white and he act like that. Oh, man. Dad, make a bust of this nigga. Yeah, dad be like, yeah, go take

[Deontay]

Abraham Lincoln ass off that Mount Rushmore. Put this nigga up there.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Go, go. Put. Go put Barry o' Harady up there.

[Deontay]

That's what.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Barry o' Harady is crazy. And I'm Irish

[Big Ice Cupcat]

burial Harry.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's stupid.

[Deontay]

Oh, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, good. Good old Barry o'.

[Deontay]

Harry o'. Har. Yeah, man, we get right into the shit today. We got time to play around.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man. I just think that there's an. There needs to be an understanding of what this thing is.

[Deontay]

If we.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

If we be honest about what it

[Deontay]

is, then you can. You can attack it. You can stop playing the defense to it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The Reason why is on defense all the time.

[Deontay]

Cuz they playing the wrong game.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You playing democratic game with oligarchs don't care nothing about democracy. They pay for that. I mean, okay, look, go to look, look.

[Deontay]

20, 20, 16.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay]

Popular vote.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hillary.

[Deontay]

Oh, Hillary and Trump.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Who won the popular vote?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Hillary smashed them.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Smashed them.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay, well, we going by the democratic

[Deontay]

process and the vote of the people.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean, Hillary Clinton should have been president.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The. They saying that Dr. Cheyenne Bryant graduated

[Deontay]

from the electoral college.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, she got a degree there.

[Deontay]

It's between her and God.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Electoral college, University.

[Deontay]

I ain't never heard. Never heard. I'm just saying.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm just saying if the democratic process.

[Deontay]

Through the democratic process, we get Hillary Clinton Right through the electoral College, we get Dr. Shine.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They're not playing. They're playing a different game, bro. And I think we need to acknowledge that they're playing a different game. And I think that maybe the enemy seems bigger if we acknowledge that they're oligarchs.

[Deontay]

Cause maybe just that word.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Doesn't it seem like people that's out

[Deontay]

of reach Seems like people that's out of reach.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And it's easier to align yourself more

[Deontay]

in the democratic process of things where it's still.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Cause now. Cause. But then, but then, but then, but then, but then. But then we get into a place

[Deontay]

where we selling people hope through the democratic process.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And this is why you have people, you know.

[Deontay]

And again, again, local. Start.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Start local at Global.

[Deontay]

I'm, I'm. I'm always gonna be on that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And I know that this seems contradictory,

[Deontay]

but I'm not like you niggas. I know how to hold two opposing opinions at the same time. I'm just not like you. I haven't. I haven't. We'll get to that. We'll get to the. We'll get to the. The way that you niggas have actively utilized Stan culture as a personality.

[Caller 2]

Mm.

[Deontay]

We'll get there. We'll get there.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We'll get there.

[Deontay]

We got a lot to cover today

[Big Ice Cupcat]

while we are still participating in the democratic process, because this is the socially and generally accepted idea about America. You niggas still think that this is the democracy. And I'm gonna tell you, even in an America where most of these dumb asses will vote against their own best interest, we still wouldn't have it this

[Deontay]

bad if it was democratic.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean, God damn, I've never seen this many people cucking for fucking billionaires in my life. You know, even when we was growing up they would come on E. Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. Yeah, we would watch shit like that and we still didn't give a fuck about them niggas. Like that.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Didn't.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, because it'd be like, Saudi oil family. I ain't never gonna be.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I ain't never gonna be over there.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm from North Carolina. Yeah.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm not gonna be there with him.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Saudi oil prince just bought a 20002007 foot square yacht. Like God damn, shout out. And they got a little island for a whopping 40 billion. For a modest. They'll say shit like that.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

For a modest.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

A modest $40 billion.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Goddamn.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Goddamn nigga fouling bitch. 40 billion. I mean, I'm balling bitch a little whopping.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, whopping.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yo, when niggas hit you, when the white man hit you with the whopping, you know that nigga finna say a crazy number.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Crazy number whopping.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It seems that the estimated value of the Saudi oil family is unlimited. There's no limit. There's no limit. As long as there's an earth, them niggas is rich. As long as it's dirt and oil, as long as it's soil,

[Deontay]

these have

[Big Ice Cupcat]

more money than God. Mansa Musa, who them say like that? You ain't never seen the Saudi oil prince on Forbes. Them got ridiculous money.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Have money.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Them just made a city. Yeah, just made it.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Just made it.

[Deontay]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Let's get a little. Let's get our hands a little dirty in Sudan and make a city.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Damn.

[Deontay]

I'm sorry.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm not to be the party pooper.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know, this is my vibe.

[Deontay]

I love that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, Yeah, I love the vibe. It seems they're estimated to own a quarter million slaves in Sudan. For one modest.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Relax, relax.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What's the price of a life?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Gotta get that gold.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I didn't think it was close. We there. I love gold. We there. We gotta go. I love gold.

[Deontay]

I love gold.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Gold member?

[Deontay]

Gold.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Member.

[Deontay]

God damn.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm trying to tell you, man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Jesus Christ.

[Deontay]

Wow.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I just say this. I'm just saying we haven't seen these many niggas sucking the dick of billionaires. I mean you niggas. I mean, glazing don't even begin to do you niggas justice because you niggas will be split on a living wage.

[Deontay]

This is ridiculous to me. This is ridiculous to me.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Your PO ass don't have nothing to pass down to your child and you

[Deontay]

still don't want your child to earn a living wage.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean, I Mean what? I mean, they said that they was putting fluoride.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Fluoride, yes.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Instead of putting fluoride in the water.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But what are they putting in it now? Because this is calcifying entire brain, the hippocampus.

[Deontay]

Getting calcified.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The medulla oblongana.

[Deontay]

Fluoride.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They throwing a little fit the flow.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Fit the flow. Yeah. Good.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, these do whatever we tell them.

[Deontay]

Little Flint ride.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Little Flint.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Little Flint.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Little flow ride.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Little ride, baby. We ride

[Big Ice Cupcat]

a little f. We ride.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

You go ride, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You was worried about fluoride. I'm going to take you on a fit ride in the water, baby. What are they gonna do?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Float and ride, baby. Ride that wave. All in the water.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They put it all in the water. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on. Sometimes you just open up threads and you just like, man, I'd rather just eat my phone than reading these fucking. What the fuck is wrong with these niggas, yo?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's crazy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean, God damn, that's crazy. And here's the thing.

[Deontay]

It's an honest reflection.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's an honest reflection of America, you know? You know to tell you the Internet

[Deontay]

is not a real place, right?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I say the Internet, it's not a real place to the point where almost like the things that happen on the Internet you can't take seriously. Now, there's a white man named Chud the builder. Chud? Good old Chud.

[Deontay]

Is that his name?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Is that his name? Chud the builder.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Chud the builder.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Is it Chud?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. C H U D. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Chud the builder.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now what this does is go around and call black people on stream. Does antagonize black people. Say they're chimping out. Now, evidently somebody wasn't feeling that, huh?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

There's some facts on. On Chud Ch.

[Caller 2]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. They said chill was a cross. Cross dresser back in the day, though.

[Deontay]

They said ch like to get packed.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. What they said fly, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They let you go on that ride.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Go ride, baby.

[Deontay]

Black women, specifically. Oh, that's what they say.

[Poet/Spoken Word Artist]

Damn.

[Deontay]

Say like the black women specifically.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

N. Yeah. A little bit more thrust.

[Deontay]

Okay. God damn. Big cat.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

A little bit more power, though.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Power them hips. All right, man,

[Deontay]

we back.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Big ice cup.

[Deontay]

What the.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

A little bit more throat.

[Deontay]

You're not lying.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

You ever seen dutty wine?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's what I'm saying, son.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I was saying.

[Deontay]

All right?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I was just. I seen Love

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

on the river.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Like that river pun. Okay. Live streamer known as. Oh, okay. Live streamer known for racist content faces attempted murder charge with a bond set at a whopping.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

A whopping

[Big Ice Cupcat]

1.25 million at the courthouse shooting.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Damn.

[Deontay]

God damn. At the courthouse.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

He's shooting.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Live streamer known for posting videos with

[Deontay]

racist content online appeared in court Friday morning on charges including attempted murder after he shot a man outside a Tennessee courthouse, according to authorities.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oof.

[Deontay]

Oof.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Dalton. Etherly. Etherly.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Etherly.

[Deontay]

I believe Etherly. Ethereal Wood turn to a drug.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, you like, you like. You like to put folk put in your locker?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Got something for you.

[Deontay]

We. We going to open that locker up. Yeah, open that locker up that's in the kite, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, my boy. My boy. Chud the transporter

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

turned his name to Brooks.

[Deontay]

Big cat.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What the is wrong? Big ice cuff. I see what's like he going for a Wimby. Yeah, you on your Wimby shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ain't going to lie to boy. Wimby be busting ass.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know I'm not big on.

[Deontay]

You know I'm not be watching sports like that.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

No, you don't.

[Deontay]

But they got down the Timberwolves game and spurs played the other night. I was like, God damn, he was balling.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

He's not human.

[Deontay]

That like a creative player. Like NBA Live 2000 they made. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You remember NBA live like 2003.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Make a seven foot five.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Seven foot five. All 99.

[Deontay]

All sliders, shoot point, drip, run the point.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He can dribble at 75. He never gonna miss a free throw.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Never miss.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Never missing a three pointer.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Never miss.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And that dunk from the free throw

[Deontay]

line like it's a layup. And that's Wimby.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's Wimby.

[Deontay]

All right, well, we'll get back to.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

Brooks.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Dalton E. Who goes by Chud the

[Deontay]

builder online, got into an argument with another man identified by officials as Joshua Fox, outside of Montgomery County Courthouse in Clarksville Wednesday afternoon. According to the arrest warrant, E, 28, turned his body in a bladed stance towards Fox, reached for a firearm in his jacket pocket after a physical altercation happened, the warrant said. Ethily fired his weapon and Fox was struck multiple times.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

According to the document, Fox, who is

[Deontay]

black, is a disabled veteran, lover, father, a loving father of three amazing children whose life has been severely impacted by this injustice. His mother, Carolyn Smith, said, look at, look at, look, look at this guy. I Mean, just an upstanding citizen. Joshua Fox, man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Shout out to Joshua fox. He's survivor Mr. Fox. Yeah, Mr. Fox. He survived.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

He survived.

[Deontay]

He survived.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Fantastic.

[Deontay]

Fox.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The live streamer now faces additional charges,

[Deontay]

including employing a firearm during a dangerous felo felony, aggravated assault, reckless endangerment with a deadly weapon. The Montgomery county sheriff's office said during

[Big Ice Cupcat]

his arraignment and bond hearing, general session court judge Reed Poland iii set the 1.25 million dollar bond based upon the fact of how many people were in

[Deontay]

the courtyard over here at the courthouse and the seriousness of all these felonies. Old chud chimped out.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

They chimped out.

[Deontay]

Yeah, he chimped out.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

And he shot himself in the process.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Shot himself in the arm.

[Deontay]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I ain't never heard. Shoot himself in the arm.

[Deontay]

I ain't never heard that either. I thought you went cheddar, Bob.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Shot himself in the arm.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Ethically wearing a marked Montgomery county jumpsuit. Montgomery county jail jumpsuit. Could be seen closing his eyes for a while.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, he closed his eyes.

[Deontay]

Announced that bond, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, ain't so fun no more, is it?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Close his eyes, baby.

[Deontay]

Ain't seen his future.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

He seen it.

[Deontay]

His future is black. A lot of.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Lot of blacks, man.

[Deontay]

They got cell phones in prison, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They do.

[Deontay]

My partner just called me from Chang gang the other day. I don't know how he.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He's doing the things he's doing in there.

[Deontay]

Yeah, but he's doing it.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

He's doing it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And

[Deontay]

Chad, when you close your eyes, man, he just seemed black, you know,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

this is how he's trying to come

[Deontay]

up off of the black.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Now look at you now.

[Deontay]

Look at you still. Then chimped out.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, he chipped out. And they trying out. And they trying to block his gofundme.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, no, they gotta block it. Yeah, because it was. Because it can't be came.

[Deontay]

Because it can't be used. You can't. You can't raise charity for criminal activity. Yep. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, well. So this is my point. This is my point about America. This chimp chud, the builder, made a name for himself by calling black people niggers on a live stream.

[Deontay]

Antagonizing black people. Gets what he's looking for.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Deploys a firearm on federal grounds.

[Deontay]

Federal ground on the federal grounds.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Not only clips himself, but shoots a disabled veteran multiple times.

[Deontay]

Thank you for your service, Mr. Fox.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And a populace raised $130,000 for him within the week.

[Deontay]

Well, I don't know about you, but it seems like the old America you

[Big Ice Cupcat]

and me know is still alive and well.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

How y' all raise a hundred ball for this nigga?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, you believe in this?

[Deontay]

Well, chud won't be able to touch those funds.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Nah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And, you know, hold on.

[Deontay]

Joshua, if I'm not mistaken, Joshua Fox.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Gofundme. Oh, Joshua Fox. Gofundme.

[Deontay]

Joshua fox has raised $244,000. Good. Shout out to Joshua Fox. I'd like to donate. Let me donate now, Mr. Fox. Oh, how much should we donate to him?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Let's donate. How many times you got hit?

[Deontay]

That's

[Big Ice Cupcat]

big. Big ice cup.

[Deontay]

How many times you got hit is crazy. They suggesting that we do 200.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I think I hit twice.

[Deontay]

Let's do it.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Let's do it, man. Mr. Fox.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, you in the top 5% of donors.

[Deontay]

Shout out. You know, why not, you know, shout out Mr. Mr. Fox, man, and donate to this man, you know, out here just. Just out here serving this country. Serving this country.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Still.

[Deontay]

Still serving this country.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, Chuck. Old Chuck Chud and chimped out.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Chimped out, baby. There it is.

[Deontay]

You know, we don't do no playing over here.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Nah, man, we don't do that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh. Oh, I'm in a season of charity, baby.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm feeling very charitable this season.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

God has been good.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

God has been great.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

God has been great.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

God has been great, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We've been to take care of these babies.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Gotta take care of the babies, man.

[Deontay]

So we found four candidates, okay? Not only. Not only just four candidates. One of the candidates that's graduating. I don't want to mention his name. I, I. You remember this situation that happened in the barbershop last year?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Deontay]

Those was his folks. Oh, okay. So we gonna take. He's gonna take care of him.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay, good, good.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Because he still persevered.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, through that.

[Deontay]

Yeah, for sure.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And then we got. We got two. The girls, man.

[Deontay]

The girls, brother. I mean, the list of accolades and accomplishments that young. That young black women are just.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

I mean, they just turn.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean, thriving.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But this young man.

[Deontay]

Yeah, the other young man

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

doing his thing, decorating.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay]

Yeah, man. So we going to take care of these baby.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Got to take care of the baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay]

You know what I'm saying? We in.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We in season, giving back, man.

[Deontay]

You know, the.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

A voice in my head told me the other day, get up, get up

[Deontay]

and walk around without that phone. We got to discuss some things. And we said, it's time. It's Give back time let's give back season let's give back season yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's spring, man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay]

It's time to hit that balloon.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, for sure.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Because when we go on tour, we

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

finna hit that blue, baby.

[Deontay]

We're gonna give back to these babies. We're gonna get back to the community.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And, and, and speaking of giving back to the community, shout out to Keith Lee, bro.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The inaugural family festival.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean, y' all showed up.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

20,000 people for an inaugural festival. I mean, that ain't no small feat, baby.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

It's not that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That Keith Lee just had one big ass cookout.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Just one big cookout, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And I, man, I'm. I'm.

[Deontay]

Here's my thing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That food look good as.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

It look good.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That food look good as.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man, the whole event just looked. I mean, the whole event.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean. I mean, Godamn.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Shout out to Kevin on stage. Always showing up for.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Just showing up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Listen, man, you have Christians and then you got out here being Christ like, say it again, you got Christians, huh? And you got out here being Christ like, well, that boy, that boy Keith Lee. That boy Christ like, that man Kevin St. That man, Christ like, you got Christians and then you got out here,

[Deontay]

that's Christ like, preach on, preach on.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's not a lot.

[Deontay]

It's not enough.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Y' all out here being Christ like, you know, they'll tell you that the yoga is demonic, huh? Just stretching and breathing.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Just stretching and breathing, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

A lot of you could use a little breathe. Stretch, shake.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Let it go.

[Deontay]

For sure.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

There's a lot of you Christians be having on your mind that you need to let it go.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Let it go, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Shout out to the brother, Keith Lee, man. Shout out to the silence of the OG, Man.

[Deontay]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

When that's paving the way, Kevin stage.

[Deontay]

Yeah, man, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Can't. Can't do no wrong.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

No wrong, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, man, if he ever do anything

[Deontay]

wrong, I'm taking a fall for him.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Catch a body behind that.

[Deontay]

Play that, man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man, don't play with son, man.

[Deontay]

Play with my man. Nah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Catch body behind Keith Lee. Keith Lee. Put your face in a platter.

[Deontay]

Damn.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Rated one through ten. Catch the body. Catch a body for Keith Lee. Rated one through ten.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

One through ten, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I still got. I still got rapper bars, man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

You tell me to chill out.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Play with Keith Lee. I'm catching the body behind Keith Lee. Yeah, we're gonna rate that one through 10.

[Deontay]

One through 10.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, that's a. Oh, the way that I shot the huh? When you ain't even see how I shot the. That was a for show. You right?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

You didn't see I put my leg up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You didn't even see how I put my leg. That's a for sure.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

You write on yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Stupid, man. Shout out to all the black people, man. Shout out to black people still living.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Shout out to black people, you know, Shout out to everybody that showed up

[Deontay]

in my in Montgomery.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Shout out to everybody everywhere that's doing anything for the advancement of not only the black community, but for the advancement of black joy.

[Deontay]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

For the advancement of the black family.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

For the advancement of black thought.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And for all the niggas that put black first. Huh? Cause you gotta understand, it's too many niggas putting that title before they put that black. It's too many niggas. That's rich. And then they black. It's too many niggas that's religious. And then they black. It's too many niggas. That's this. And then they black.

[Deontay]

Nah, you put that black first.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You put that black first. You're gonna get some good ass black ass results. Hey, man, Keith Lee. Real man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Family, Family, Family.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yes, sir.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Huh?

[Deontay]

Had Kirk Franklin out there.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Toby the Wig Wag was out there. Yeah, man, KB, I ain't gonna lie. Brought them stars out.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

People out, man.

[Deontay]

Hey, look, bought them out.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I, I, I, I'm a little up. It's a lot of oxtail. Guys saw that, that family.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yo, look, yo, good oxtails, huh? Good rice and peas. Good oxtails.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

A lot of oxtails. Yeah, man, not oxtails, oxtail.

[Deontay]

Why don't had that such a passionate, you know. I haven't seen argue that passionately about something dumb since I was in jail.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, man.

[Deontay]

Shout out to.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, you know, shout out to the guy.

[Deontay]

Hey, man, I just, you know, I'm starting to see, I see it. Okay. No, the marketing is good.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's what it is.

[Deontay]

Espresso.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

I hate it. Debates. Yeah, yeah. Hey man, it's the 40 minute mark.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay?

[Deontay]

We just hit 40.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I was thinking about 40.

[Deontay]

Got me thinking about that Iceman.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, shout out to the ice, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Shout out to the Iceman was a nice man. Now you're hot and cold.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay]

Hey man, look, two of those albums did I know they not for me. Nah, those is for the man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. For the women.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I, you know, at 40 years old. The way that he knows how to

[Deontay]

tap into the Good on you.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

But yeah.

[Deontay]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Good on you.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That Iceman album was okay.

[Deontay]

There's like, there's three or four joints on there, but that's a Drake album. I don't know why everybody won't just admit this. That's a Drake.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's a Drake album. Three or four joints. Yeah. If you like them or you don't like them. Yeah.

[Deontay]

I mean, yeah, run to Atlanta, but

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I ain't really like that.

[Deontay]

I ain't like it.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Not for real.

[Deontay]

I didn't like that. Bees on the table.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I didn't like that. What's the other one with the. We say it over and over again. I can't think of the name. I'm gonna look it up.

[Deontay]

Hold on. Dream. The one we liked.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Another one we liked. The one we liked was Pray.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What was it?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Pray for them.

[Deontay]

Make them pay.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Make them pay. Make them pay.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I like. Make them pay. I like National Treasures. I like that. Janice, shut the up. That it? See, baby, I don't like that. These hoes know how I pop it.

[Deontay]

For real. These knows how I pop it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

For real.

[Narrator/Rapper]

I don't like it.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I don't like it.

[Deontay]

That's it. That said.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What did say. That said Robbie got scared on just like a kill that hard. You know that woke up. Yeah.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's your.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's me.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's you.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Probably go scrolling a like kills. I said, yeah.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Shebang is what I am.

[Deontay]

Oh, yeah. I hated shebang. Yeah. Yeah. Some people like it, some people love it. Here's my thing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I don't.

[Deontay]

I don't care about the beef anymore.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I don't know why we. Listen, dog, listen.

[Deontay]

You are being cheap online now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Me and Big Cat was riding. We was on the way back from.

[Deontay]

We went to TI's 20th anniversary party.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

And then we went to BMI party at the rooftop retreat.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And then we went with some of the homies.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

To Pelicana. It's a nice Korean fried chicken spot.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

When we leave out the Pelicana, it's midnight.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

It is.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Album just dropped.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They just dropped. We say, man, we're gonna run this

[Deontay]

on the way back.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Through the first few songs, I was not impressed.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Wasn't at all.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And I'm, you know. And I'm in.

[Deontay]

Listen, man, look, I'm in the right mind to enjoy this song, these music, because we a little lit.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, it was lit.

[Deontay]

I. You know.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Responsibly. Responsibly. I was Riding. I'm in the passenger seat.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is a perfect time to listen

[Deontay]

to some of this music. Now I, I, I, I, I put out a thread. You know this, we was waiting on lol. Hahaha.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But y' all know, you know, I

[Deontay]

know you, I know you niggas. This is a great time to farm engagement. I'm just telling you. Hey.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Because this shit is this shit, you know, it's a few things that you can discuss and it's just gonna make

[Deontay]

sure that your shit go Kendrick, Drake.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

If you didn't even name either one of those things.

[Deontay]

Those niggas have married themselves in the conversation around the culture. They have married themselves through this beef.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now here's my thing. There was never gonna be a time

[Deontay]

where Drake was not gonna be able to make music again. Drake makes music. He, he knows how to dip his toe into several different genres.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Some of those he does really well.

[Deontay]

So for the Maid of Honor album, this is a continuation of his. Honestly, never mind. Okay. The dance vibes, you know what I'm saying? The hobby be whatever the name of the other. I don't know what it is.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is another continuation, more his R and B dancing back. He's going to win with that. Iceman was cool. Iceman had some classic Drake vibe bops on there. And then the rest of them, you know, whatever. Now three album drop, get out your deal.

[Deontay]

Smart play.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, smart enough.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I respect it. Yeah, I'm not a hater because you lost the battle already. I'm not on the battle. I don't care about the battle anymore.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, it's done.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Niggas that are still stuck on that. I mean, he's still dissing.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

He is dissing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But I mean, you got stomped out,

[Deontay]

you got stunt out. You can't just come back, not say nothing.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm with you on that one.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean, you stomped me out.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, I'm gonna say something, gotta say something.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But for those, you know, it's just

[Deontay]

this, the stand culture.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Cause. Cause somebody was like.

[Deontay]

Cause I said I had made a thread. Janice, shut the fuck up. That's all I put. And it was like, see, he made you eat your words.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Eat your words, bitch. I'm not lame like you. I don't know these niggas. Yeah, I don't care about any of

[Deontay]

these niggas that much.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I don't have a personal relationship with

[Deontay]

any of these niggas.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

These niggas have their own lives. Okay? Even if I was to meet any of them niggas tomorrow, after they had their brief conversation with me, you know what they gonna do? Go back to they life and I'm gonna go back to mine. I don't have an allegiance to niggas

[Deontay]

because I like they music.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now in the battle, now we talking about hip hop culture in the battle, it's different. When we engage in a battle, you

[Deontay]

gotta pick a side, right?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Pick my side. My side so happen to win, but that's over.

[Deontay]

I can listen to the music objectively. It's just a couple bops on there. Good bops. And that's Drake. Yeah, Drake's gonna give you a bop.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He's still dissing. And if you could so kindly, you

[Deontay]

know, Iceman, if you could so kindly please stop trying to make it seem like the Six is so dangerous. Like, we gotta. We gotta stop that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. I mean, if I have any critiques about the music. Cause it's a. The Drake thing is a plug and play. He knows his audience. Terrible.

[Deontay]

One of the worst fan bases of all times. A lot of racists like you. That's weird, but it's beside the point, dad. We gotta stop making the Six seem so dangerous.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's just.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

It's not dangerous.

[Deontay]

Come on, man. Hey, man, look, we live in a rather safe. I would say Douglasville is. Yeah, it's safe as fuck to me.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, it's still rated number six most dangerous city in Georgia. In Georgia, this shit is safe as fuck.

[Deontay]

I mean, Ronto crime statistics, does anything pop up?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Toronto is considered a safe major North

[Deontay]

American city with the overall crime severity and violent crime rates remaining notably lower than many U.S. and Canadian metropolitan counterparts.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Overall violent crimes.

[Deontay]

Toronto consistently ranks below the national average for violent crime severity among major Canadian cities. 42 homicides one year. Yeah, bro.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, hey, man.

[Deontay]

Listen, dog.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Relax on the six, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Chill, bro.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, relax on the Six.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Not to, not to. I hate, I hate that brag about

[Deontay]

murder rates, but there are some putting up their numbers in a week or a month.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, unfortunately.

[Deontay]

Unfortunately, I would say a month. We gotta stop this whole. The Six. The Six. The Six is so dangerous. I'm just saying that's my only critique.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Because it's like he still be popping

[Deontay]

it, mob boss vibes.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I get it. It's cool.

[Deontay]

It's Drake, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The thing is, is that we have to stop looking like we already have judged your character. We judged it throughout the beef.

[Deontay]

We've made our stances.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now we could just sit back and

[Deontay]

view you as you are an entertainer.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, it's still here. The unfortunate part Is the losers are in the majority.

[Deontay]

The lame are the majority. So you always gonna win and we respect that because I. With some of the music.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

For real. That hard. You don't like this.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm not a Drake fan. I've never been a Drake fan since the beginning. But he got, he got, he got music that I like.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He got bops. He's a bop machine.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He is almost 40.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

He is.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That is alarming.

[Deontay]

But hey, you know, you know there's

[Big Ice Cupcat]

always going to be a.

[Deontay]

There's always going to be a loophole when it comes to this. You know, he doesn't have the growth and mature, but let everybody else make a million and they want to see growth mature. But this gets to keep talking the same he's been talking for 10 years.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

I think Drake, you know, only another criticism and might be just time to go and settle down, my brother. I mean, you still waiting on the.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, you're not calling me back.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

He can't settle down.

[Deontay]

Listen, I ain't going to lie, man. Don't settle down because that is the, that is the, the, the formula.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's him.

[Deontay]

If he settle down, he loses it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's the formula.

[Deontay]

It's the bot formula. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He can't settle down. He can't settle down.

[Deontay]

He got to keep chasing heartbreak.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

He does. Yeah.

[Deontay]

Shout out to Drake, man, you know, we don't give a about this beef. We don't care.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Make win, bro.

[Deontay]

Make your money, bro. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Caller 2]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Still considerably not like us, but we

[Deontay]

not going to be haters.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Mm.

[Deontay]

I just, you know, I have better things to do.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I have better things to do to

[Deontay]

get online and tie my allegiance to two niggas that I don't know.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Here's the thing. Criticism

[Deontay]

is an act of love when done through pure objectivity.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And that's why the death of journalism

[Deontay]

in America is very methodical.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Stan. Culture is a byproduct of social media and a conspiracy of the ruling class to control access to true and unbiased freedom of press. Now, power is vulnerable to investigation. When you have power, not only does it make people obsessed with your power in the sense that they'll deify you,

[Deontay]

but I wanna know what you're doing with it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This how they tried to get us

[Deontay]

with the lifestyles of the rich and famous. They just tried to show us the little trinkets.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

So they told us that Jeffrey Epstein bought a school and turned it into a home.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay]

They didn't Tell us that this had an island where he was trafficking children.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Right?

[Deontay]

Power is vulnerable to investigation. Okay. They will tell you about Mar a Lago. They won't tell you. The reason why he buried his wife at Mar A Lago is because you can't tax the land if it's. If it's a cemetery. Cemetery. Power is vulnerable to investigation.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now our society has dulled into a population of fanatics.

[Deontay]

This is why I really didn't want

[Big Ice Cupcat]

to say nothing about the Drake album.

[Deontay]

Because we have a population of fanatics. We've seen this. A few weeks ago, I made one little comment about one little person. Niggas didn't even hear what I said. They just heard that name. And then Manchurian Candidate activated. Manchurian Candidate.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And this is this. And this will do the same.

[Deontay]

We, we are a population of fanatics.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It activates a Manchurian Candidate in you. It turns things off.

[Deontay]

Stan, activate. Stan, activate logic.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Delete logic. Delete logic. Suspend logic.

[Deontay]

Stan, activate. Y' all would delete logic. Ration all that. Because we live in a population of fanatics.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now, in sports, when the quarterback is fucking up, right? Quarterback, he fucking up. You will ridicule, ridicule your quarterback publicly, but you won't start cheering for another quarterback that's doing better. That's especially if you're on a different team. That's sacrilegious. That's fair weather player shit.

[Deontay]

That's cowboy fan shit.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

you got your home team. And even if your home team ain't doing too well, even if the quarterback is fucking up, that don't mean you go start becoming a fan of the team of the quarterback who's doing better. That's sacrilege. You a fair weather player. Now, the team itself doesn't pose any benefit to the fan whatsoever. And the allegiance is typically geographical.

[Deontay]

It's religious.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's not necessarily meant to be rational. It's meant to hack the innate instinct to be tribal. Now we dealing with niggas.

[Deontay]

This is where you got to investigate the power. This is why they don't like journalism. Journalists, they investigate power.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

How many things have been uncovered through just true blue, honest. Roll up your sleeves.

[Deontay]

Journalism a lot.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I just did my storyboard and I was interviewed. Shout out to everybody.

[Deontay]

Shout out to everybody.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But a lot of people doing their journalism on a corporate level and they doing it all the time, so they didn't really get to dig in the crates. They don't get to get the storyboard. Yeah, that was true journalism. Them knew shit about me. I forgot about Very much so. How the fuck you niggas find this out? They just asked me a question. God damn. How you know that?

[Deontay]

Forgot I told y' all that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's journalism.

[Deontay]

Journalism is.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Is, is, is. Is. Is a. It's a big part of the First

[Deontay]

Amendment because it's the freedom of press.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's hard to have a freedom of press and a freedom of speech and a culture run by fanatics because the truth is not gonna set these niggas free. It's activated. Stanhood, activate the stand. Suspend rationale, suspend logic. It's not necessarily meant to be rational.

[Deontay]

It's meant to hack the innate instinct to be tribal.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now, only difference between that is, see, the tribalism comes from centuries of genetic

[Deontay]

information, of living off the land with finite resources.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You are no longer living out the land.

[Deontay]

You are no longer living with finite resources.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But at a cellular level, they're hacking into you to make you feel like you are. The people in power are using psychological

[Deontay]

tactics to hack your biological instincts. This is where the fanatic comes in.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

See, this is the thing can't get

[Deontay]

left by the tribe. Hey, man, you get led by that child, you get ostracized.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, he's saying the lone. The lone wolf. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That shit sound good.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

In theory,

[Deontay]

in a story, in an allegory and a fable, sounds good to be the lone wolf.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But when you come up in a

[Deontay]

communal aspect where everybody's taking care of everybody and the only thing you gotta do is play a role, the thing that'll get you ostracized is questioning the authority of the village. You start questioning the chief, your ass might get ostracized.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now, there seems to be some traits

[Deontay]

about the people on the right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And this is what I mean about the tribe, and this is what I mean.

[Deontay]

Being hacked on a cellular level and hacking your biological instincts.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It seems like the people who are on the right seem to be highly

[Deontay]

in favor of gambling investment.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is all the same.

[Deontay]

The obsession with wealth, the obsession with billionaires, the.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The grace they give billionaires, the praise

[Deontay]

they give billionaires, but also the hustle mentality, the capitalist mentality, the gambling, the gambling, the gambling. Something about that. That chance that. That one in however many chance to be the thing I worship. You make money your God, and then you gamble with your God every day.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

God, family, country. Using God to justify your lack of understanding.

[Deontay]

Family. Because these niggas will kill their family

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

for sure.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

These niggas live in a country that will actively put people in their family under fire. And in harm's way, especially the women.

[Deontay]

And they will vote for that under the guise of God, family, country.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now, they also have a lot of grace for their oppressor because they don't

[Deontay]

realize they're the ones being oppressed, too scared to leave the tribe.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now, why, for them, is freedom of speech only worth defending when it benefits your ability to degrade people, but not

[Deontay]

their ability to criticize your beliefs? This is where they get to ban in books. This is where they get to gutting your voting rights.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They want the freedoms that benefit their ability to degrade, their ability to oppress,

[Deontay]

but not the ability for those things to be critiqued.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We live in a weird space in society. This is a weird society we live in where when you question power, even

[Deontay]

people without power will chastise you.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Your questioning of power, your investigation into powerful people, will benefit the people without the power. It would actually give them the power.

[Deontay]

But they've been hacked.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They've been brainwashed. They've been duped. Huh? Hoodwinked.

[Deontay]

They've been got.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And they have been thrust into a

[Deontay]

population of fanatics and stans.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This shit.

[Deontay]

It becomes what their allegiance is beyond rationale and beyond logic.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's beyond all these things, and it keeps them in line, even to the

[Deontay]

point where

[Big Ice Cupcat]

they will harm themselves for

[Deontay]

the benefit of their team. And get nothing in return.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

See, when you in.

[Deontay]

When you're in football, you know what I'm saying? Any given Sunday, okay? Run to the end zone.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

When he go dive, he know this my last play.

[Deontay]

Yeah, I'm old as. The white dude.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, the white guy old as.

[Deontay]

But in order to advance this team, and I'll be praised. I'll be a legend for this shit.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

See, you put your neck out on the line for, quote, unquote, maga, you don't get shit in return. Not even praise.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Nothing.

[Deontay]

And Chad the Builder's case, you get

[Big Ice Cupcat]

$130,000 you can't even touch.

[Deontay]

Only thing you get is a clear representation of the alignment and the allegiance. Because I don't want to hear MAGA and Ku Klux Klan. It's just, you niggas are white supremacist, you niggas are racist, you niggas are bigots, and you niggas are afraid of black people.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You're afraid of black people. You don't understand how black people are

[Deontay]

out here having such a great time, but we do. Enlightenment is not a religious experience.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's the ability to see that the

[Deontay]

religion is no longer needed because religion

[Big Ice Cupcat]

is not about the worship or belief in God. It's a practice birthed out of an

[Deontay]

inability to understand or control the world around you.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So the real enlightenment is when you truly recognize that I, you, and everything else around me, if created by the God that we believe in, is a reflection of me. So how I treat it is how I treat myself. How I treat the land is how

[Deontay]

I'm essentially treating my God.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

How I treat my fellow man is essentially.

[Deontay]

It's a reflection of my belief. Now, how y' all treat people makes

[Big Ice Cupcat]

me believe that the person you worship

[Deontay]

is the devil because a lot of your actions become a little fucking demonic. But I understand it because that inability to control or understand the world around you not only instills fear, but paranoia, and that is crippling and debilitating.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So when black people gave the world stay woke, it was a warning. It was an imperative declaration to trust what you see and what you feel and not what you're being told. Because if you believe the things that they tell you, it could get you killed. It's the same reason that a criminal wants a witness to die.

[Caller 2]

Mm.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Because when you start investigating the power, sometimes, most times in American times, when

[Deontay]

you investigate power, what do you find? Corruption.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So the thing is, when niggas told you to stay woke, they telling you, don't trust the narrative. Trust what you see, trust what you feel. They telling their people, don't trust what you see, don't trust what you feel, trust what I say.

[Deontay]

And what do they say?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Anything that tells them to trust how they see and they feel.

[Deontay]

They call it a woke agenda. Black people 100 years ahead of you. We know better.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We know that the only time that you embrace journalism is when it benefits

[Deontay]

or covers up your corruption.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We may be beyond the vote, but I also think that it's very interesting that we've reached a point where the people who said we, not our ancestors are put in the same position they was put in. So now all the people that say we aren't our ancestors, and they mean it derogatorily, as if our ancestors was weak or docile, people prove it.

[Deontay]

We'll be right back after these commercial breaks. We back the cat. Yo, yo, my.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yo, man.

[Deontay]

I want to keep talking about this stand culture thing, all right. I'm pretty sure that people are going to be a little surprised by my Drake take. Right?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay]

They expect. You know, they expected me to come over here.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But I think the thing is, is

[Deontay]

that it is entertainment.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

It is.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I think there's.

[Deontay]

There's Something with Drake, that happens. You know, he tries to occupy a lot of spaces. He want to occupy the white space, he want to occupy the black space. Right. And then you want to occupy that Juice space. Hey, he's all. He's a man that's all over the place.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

He's got to figure this stuff out. And this music isn't reflective of any involvement, so it doesn't require my criticism. It's just. The thing is that I understand what I said about it before.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay]

The beef was culture versus commerce. He represents the commerce in this thing. So on a commercial level, he's going to win every time. And I'm not mad about that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And I don't need it to stop

[Deontay]

for me to still have an appreciation for the culture. That's you niggas problems, and y' all don't understand what it is. But because you're so caught up in Stan culture, you feel like that you have to fight for this allegiance. And to the point where the fanatic in you has made your allegiance to certain artists, certain people, certain thought processes, certain religions, certain.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Certain.

[Deontay]

Certain political parties. It's an extension of you. Instead of meant to be something that serves your life, politics, politicians are meant to serve the people.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Right.

[Deontay]

They're not meant to be an extension of your personality.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Exactly.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They're actually meant to be a reflection of your morals. Yada swapped out morality with personality. And now we have oligarchy.

[Deontay]

Now we have people trying to take us back to the Jim Crow South. And now we have people that are basically parading themselves around like dictators and those who follow him.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I don't really have to care for

[Deontay]

this nigga and his.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What I can perceive to be his character,

[Deontay]

you know, the bag. I got a weird case. Why is he around? You know, why not somebody I would have around me. Not my business. As far as rap goes, he lost the rap battle that he did. I'm never gonna say Drake is the best rapper. It's just not a thing.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

No.

[Deontay]

Doesn't mean he can't participate in the music business. Yeah, he's gonna still participate in the music business season. And he's also not as vulnerable as a Little Flip or Ja Rule was. You know, Ja Rule lose the battle to 50 and lose the battle to the feds. Damn Little Flip, he just didn't. You didn't. You didn't have enough stain in the game to beef with TI That y' all was both emerging. Flip was hot.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Flip was hot.

[Deontay]

Flip was hot. Yeah. But in the sense of like a mis. Cemented status in hip hop. They was both still emerging. T. I won that battle, won that. This was never gonna be about Drake never rapping again. But it is about staying culture and, you know, the.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The biggest.

[Deontay]

Who's the most famous person that ever lived?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

The most famous person that ever lived.

[Deontay]

Michael Jackson in entertainment for sure. Okay, now, having a glove is a little. This is what I'm talking about. This culture vulture.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Collecting the artifacts. Like, this is the colonizer. Shit, you Canadian. What you doing with Michael Jackson glove? I get it, though, everybody. I mean, he's a global artist.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Just go by con.

[Deontay]

He's a global icon. If he didn't get, a nigga in China would have got it for sure. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But I'm just saying it seems like he likes to collect a lot of

[Deontay]

these hip hop artifacts.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And, you know, maybe he's a collector, maybe.

[Deontay]

Maybe he has a high appreciation of art, but it just gets a little weird.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

And.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And then to go from being a

[Deontay]

benefactor of these corporate games to now being against the corporate entity. And, you know, he. You know, they say that he's about. Since he's out of his deal, he's fulfilled his contract.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

He's likely gonna get like the biggest contract in music of all time.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Probably.

[Deontay]

But this is just in alignment with the times. Everything is inflated.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

The further we go along, the more and more the numbers are going to go. The higher the numbers are going to go because it's an inflation and, you know, here's what it is. You know what I mean? I think if you compare, you can start comparing deals, and if you adjust for inflation, you start to see those numbers just are in alignment. Right. So, you know, it's not about hating on a. I've already settled that within me. The lost. The he lost.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

He lost straight up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It is what it is.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is the second. This is another chapter of your career. You gotta, you know, you. You have to address the things that

[Deontay]

happened in the past. That's just natural processes of things.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But niggas don't care.

[Deontay]

And it's just like y' all care too much about. Y' all still want to hype this thing up. Y' all still want it to be a him versus Kendrick thing. And you're going to limit. If you such a fan of a nigga, why limit his career to a beef with somebody else? Because when Kendrick drop, nobody going to be thinking about Drake.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Right.

[Deontay]

Except for it's going to be niggas Online. But I'm, you know, if, if we can, if we can trace his career. He's the type of person that likes to move on from things. He moves on. He goes into his inner sanctum and he finds his new topics and he deals with it and he comes out with an album and then he keep going. So, you know, it's just like by diluting the music down to just continually trying to beef his fan base. I'm speaking of.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

Diluting his music down to continually trying to beef with Kendrick is doing a disservice to him, but it is keeping him highly engaged on social media.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But

[Deontay]

niggas need to learn how to move on and let shit go, and it's hard to do that in a stand culture.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now, when I asked who the most

[Deontay]

famous person that ever lived was, my mentality was Jesus.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I was gonna go there, but I

[Deontay]

was like, I'm gonna tell you why our goddamn time shifted. Because of this birth.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

You know, and whether you believe in that or not is not here or there. I'm just saying the year that we live in is the, the, the years post his birth. Right. Still talked about, you know what I'm saying? I mean, he's, he's popping.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean, he's, he's in the streets. Yeah. Yes.

[Deontay]

He's popping.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. You got it.

[Deontay]

Now this Jesus could be the big. Have the biggest stand base of all time. Biggest fan base of all time.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I believe so.

[Deontay]

Die behind that.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Die for that, son. Die for that, man. Real rap, son.

[Deontay]

Hey.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Right now, right?

[Deontay]

Still.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean, upon a death, we hoping you going with them.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Stan culture, it may be an extension of religion.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is what makes me think about

[Deontay]

this whole carbonation thing.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, my God.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now this is.

[Deontay]

He's weird.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Clearly dealing with some sort of mental illness.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Deanna was really. She was all.

[Deontay]

She, she knew all about all that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So while it was going on, you

[Deontay]

know, they was on bigo.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

And that's why they used to live stream from and everything. So she was like super tapped in already, right? This is. Cause she's, she's, you know, Deanna's into the spirituality and, you know, this hero and the horoscope and the universe. Deanna is a spiritual girly.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That she is.

[Deontay]

And this is why I don't need spiritual advice from nobody else. This is why, like, I, I, I'm tapped there with the source. I got the source right now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Caller 3]

I got it.

[Deontay]

I got it on tap.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Man on demand.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

For sure.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

I got holler the ancestors right now

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

if you need to.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what I'm saying? But I think the thing about carbonation,

[Deontay]

I think the thing about cults in general and I think the specific. The specific thing about this cult in its relation to black people is that

[Big Ice Cupcat]

this is not often a place where

[Deontay]

we see black people in. Is cults like quote unquote coats.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

We see black people in an organized religion a lot.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And then when you break off and

[Deontay]

you branch off, then you see a little bit more co. Like behavior.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Gotcha.

[Deontay]

But carbonation is when we see like the codes in comparison to the codes. You see documentaries about. Now these got a documentary shout.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

They do.

[Deontay]

That's real coat.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's real coat.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I want to think about this from.

[Deontay]

In its relation to the vulnerability of deconstructing religion.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now, deconstruction is also comes with like a withdrawal process.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay]

The same thing that you see happen with addiction.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And when you are in a 12

[Deontay]

step program or when you in rehab,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

because you have these triggers and because

[Deontay]

you have these impulses that will drive you towards your addiction, you need to find replacement behaviors. To fire your dopamine receptors up, you need to find something else that sparks that dopamine within you. So you can still receive the adrenaline rush and the dopamine, but not actively anything that's destroying you. So you try to find a positive replacement. A lot of people become the real seekers because of this. A lot of people go to the gym. A lot of people use religion as a replacement for their addiction. These people likely were deconstructing religion, learning a lot about African spirituality, learning a lot about the esoteric or what is termed new age spirituality, and sought the structure of organized religion and sought the structure of a monotheistic leader.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Right.

[Deontay]

You know, it's not a council of preachers at a church. Is one man. Yeah, One man representing that one God.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

So he becomes their leader of sorts. He becomes their connection to the universe. Right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But all he only thing he does

[Deontay]

is take the same structure of organized religion and infuses it with a lot of new age spirituality, a lot of esoteric knowledge. And he forms the carbonation and then he forms rituals, you know, peace, reflection. Yeah, you know, I see you. He creates the same things that we get in religion. The Hail Mary, the.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know, the he, he through his. Through.

[Deontay]

He's obviously somebody that was bright enough to understand how to manipulate somebody with enough pattern recognition to realize how to siphon in all these different practices. That are already established, all these practices that these people are already used to, and infuse it with a new message, his message, to the point where it gets beyond the message and becomes just solely about him.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And there is a vulnerable space that you'll be in.

[Deontay]

When you deconstruct religion, this is where you see people start converting to other religions.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

This is where you see people leave Christianity and go to Islam, or you see them leave Christianity and become a Buddhist.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Or a Rastafarian. Right. You know, when you deconstruct religion, whatever

[Big Ice Cupcat]

the religion you were raised on, when you, when you get to the process

[Deontay]

of deconstructing that, you often start seeking other religions because this has been. Because religion is a very communal thing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You don't do it on your own,

[Deontay]

you do it at a church. The church brings a community, you have, a support system, you have, and, and it's all tied into your faith in the God Almighty, Right. I mean, what could be bigger than this? Right?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So

[Deontay]

the deconstruction of it will become

[Big Ice Cupcat]

a place where you feel like you're

[Deontay]

on an island, you feel like you're alone, and it goes back to this tribalism, right. You feel like you've been kicked out of the village, you feel like that lone wolf. Nobody wants to feel like that. So then you start seeking a support system, you start seeking people that are like minded.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And then you get a little dudley, you get a little pocket.

[Deontay]

You get a little pocket, you catch it, you caught up in a little pocket. On Twitter, all these people, the, the Amen, the ashe, the I, E, Y, E, C U.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And then you get, you, then you around and you send a $300,000 and you end up in Costa Rica.

[Deontay]

I mean, you know, 300,000. Listen, man, I'm gonna tell y' all this right now. You send me $300,000 that land, that land getting bought.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, for sure.

[Deontay]

I'm gonna try to find something for 200.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. So we keep us alone a little something. We gotta get supplies.

[Deontay]

We gotta get supplies. No, I'm gonna go holler at my boy, Wayne Swanson.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Can we build here?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, can we build right here?

[Deontay]

Can we do irrigation? Can we do agriculture? You know, make sure all this is on right?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean, it looked good, though, from what it, from what it, what it was presented as. And in Costa Rica, you in the

[Deontay]

nature, you with your people, the nature, boy, you know what I'm saying? And then you outside of Babylon. Yeah, you outside of Babylon, you outside of America, you, you living close to how your ancestors live.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. If I would have got there and they would have said, yo, give me your passport and all your money, I would say, yo, send me back to the airport right now, son.

[Deontay]

I don't even send back. I would just start walking.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Take me back right now.

[Caller 3]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Give you what and take the what?

[Deontay]

And then, you know, this. And here's the thing. And you know,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Common.

[Deontay]

Common trait of cult leaders, man, they like to.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. This man was taking. I mean, separating the. Separating the women from the men. He did not care.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You had a hole.

[Deontay]

It was anything go, oh my God. It's the same.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That said, oh, I had my dick

[Deontay]

out in front of my son. I have sex.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Didn't he say he had sex while

[Deontay]

his old lady was breastfeeding a child?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I think so.

[Deontay]

He's a weird.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

He's a weird.

[Deontay]

Not only is he all the LGBT and the Q A, P2 pedophile. He's a pedophile.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Because that's pedophile. That's pedophile behavior.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Nasty.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

This is what happens when you just take mental illness to Costa Rica and you give them a cell phone.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, the things you can conjure up in nature.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, man. By yourself, baby.

[Deontay]

Start calling yourself Nature Boy. Nature Boy. Nature boy I know is Ric Flair.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Whoa,

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

baby.

[Deontay]

Jet flying, limousine ride, limousine riding.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Will and Dylan, kiss stealing. Kiss stealing.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

S. Yeah, man. And I'm having a hard time keeping these gators down.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, baby. All Nature Boy I know.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's the only Nature boy I know. Who the is know this in Costa Rica. Who's this Nature Boy? Who's this English speaking and a Spanish speaking country called himself Nature Boy.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Nature Boy. I even get down there, son.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I don't even know how he got down.

[Deontay]

Oh, no, he was getting that money.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

No, he was getting money.

[Deontay]

They was sending him.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

They were sending money.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And now listen, here's the thing about the in coat, man.

[Deontay]

You find that are very vulnerable. And this is the vulnerability of deconstructing religion once you, once you leave. See, this is the thing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The fear, the. The.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

The.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The biological fear is being kicked out.

[Deontay]

This is why people are people pleaser.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay?

[Deontay]

This is why people seek to be agreeable. You need to make a lot of compromises. This is why manipulators understand this too.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Don't want to be exiled. You don't want to be kicked out.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Right?

[Deontay]

Village right. This is in you.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Right?

[Deontay]

It's in you.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

So I just had A thoughts. Imagine. Imagine we would have showed up to

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Costa Rica big ice cup. Wait a minute. Who would have took over the live? We would have took over the stream. Get this thing out of this.

[Deontay]

Get this out of here.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This son got rid of nature going out. You got rid of this. New leaders are here. Yeah, yeah, we here now all the is reporting the big ice.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

All you get your passport. Get the hell off.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, all you got to go. I'mma keep two of you for labor. We need three of you. I need three.

[Poet/Spoken Word Artist]

Three strong.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. Gotta get sweat. I need some sweat equity. I know you ain't got no money. Yeah, get some sweat equity out. You. Would have been close to. We could t up every day. Yeah, man, do I. Do you see me wake up? Oh, big old butt naked. Yo, what I do? Took over the carbonation, my love. I took over carbon. Oh, my God. Like, yeah, man, we heard you. And then broke out of Babylon, man. Yeah, man, we down here to do that too.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Who your leader?

[Deontay]

This walk up, peace, reflection, punch right

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

in the

[Big Ice Cupcat]

can't take off on him. I'mma follow up.

[Deontay]

Son.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They hit that with a 3D out there. We your new leader, man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, we new leaders.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now, which one of you got herpes?

[Deontay]

Oh, my God. You know, he was passing it out.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

He was passing that around.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So, yeah, all the with stuff CDs gotta go. Yeah, we starting. We starting new. We starting fresh over here, baby. Starting fresh.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Get on live.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Starting fresh. Clean pussies and dicks.

[Deontay]

Only clean pussies. Dicks.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

None of that tainted in Costa Rica, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, we come down here. I ain't come down. I ain't come. I ain't leave Babylon to get Babylonian diseases.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, no.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I want none of that. Babylon.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. No, that Babylonian.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

No, no.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now go to the river. Fetch me a pail of water.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, we got a plane.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Bet you get nature boy tied up somewhere.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

You got nature boy tied up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We not living by American rules. Tie this up. Leave him right there on the floor. Leave him tied up. Why you tied up? And if you try to. This is a test soon. Just break this free. Get rid of all you bitches.

[Deontay]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we gonna get.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, we came with guns. Yeah, we stopped by the hood, but we came over here. So we just taking this whole little shit over.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

We taking everything over.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody get on the motherfucking ground real quick. Reflect that. I got some peace and reflections for all you niggas.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Matter of fact, we need a bank transfer for the 300,000, my nigga.

[Deontay]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Matter of fact, where's the deed?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Sign that over, my nigga.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, Sign everything over my.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Sign everything over, man.

[Deontay]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man. Grisneggs is the grits and eggs nation.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man. We out here, baby.

[Deontay]

Yeah, man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Free range chicken out here.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

A lot of chickens.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Lot of chickens out here.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yo, my Ross say that all right. Chickens, man. Ross, you look nasty right now.

[Deontay]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You look crazy right now. Yeah, you do. Either way. Took carbonation off quit.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

I was delicious, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What, bro? First thing.

[Deontay]

First thing, I'm going with that American money.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Money.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

I'm gonna take a hundred dollar bill, huh, and give it to some gangsters. Yeah, just. I just need guns. Don't try to rob me.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I just want a gun.

[Deontay]

Just give me one gun. One gun.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Two.

[Deontay]

Give me two.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Big Cat get the AK.

[Deontay]

I get the.45.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's all I need.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We gonna walk up on a carbonation.

[Deontay]

All you lay it down.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Lay it down right now.

[Deontay]

Who's the. Which one of you calling yourself Rick Flair?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Well, Rick.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Bring Rick outside.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Bring Rick out. Tell him put his dick up and.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, him and him got them feathers.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, bring them out here. Tell Chief Baba. Tell Chief Baba Boule to get this. Get his black ass out here.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This our.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

This our right here.

[Deontay]

Where the bank accounts.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We in Costa Rica, baby. We. We basically doing maritime law now.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, we do. We want.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Tell you the up out here. You don't like Babylon, right? Well, look my. Now we in jungle. Now we doing jungle.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Anything goes piracy. Yeah, it's piracy, baby. We want your. Yeah, we want the. And we want the money. Bring me your. Bring me your money. Take them kids back to America.

[Deontay]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So they go get an education. I ain't got nothing to teach these little.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Nah, nothing.

[Deontay]

Start my own family out here. It's a couple of them hoes I would have sent back on GP oh, just.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Just.

[Deontay]

Hey, listen, the. Somebody looks in their eyes.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

Some of y' all got to go.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Some of y'.

[Deontay]

All.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Some of y' all got to kick rocks.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, y' all got to go.

[Deontay]

It get a little vulnerable when you deconstruct religion, man. Yeah, you do here.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What?

[Deontay]

I just like, repeat an image of me of you just hitting the. With the gun.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Give me everything. Oh, Babylon in Costa Rica. We back. We back, baby.

[Deontay]

We back. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Babylonian time.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Thought you was safe.

[Deontay]

We sitting here by America.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, we gonna get back quick, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man, I'm not named Lorax. I represent the trees. You got to go.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, you got to go, baby. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Y' all niggas down here doing it wrong.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Y' all don't see this Mentally ill. Y' all can't tell.

[Deontay]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Stickers out of his mind. You know why? You know why you can't tell?

[Deontay]

Because all you niggas is mentally ill, cuz.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

How you go from Costa rica to a three bedroom, two bath and Stone Mountain

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

20 y' all in the house.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Listen, bro, I'm not. I'm not worshiping a.

[Deontay]

In a house.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. I'm not doing that. Not in the house.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Listen, you might get me the. The. You might get. You might get some worship out of. In open land.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, in the house. In a crib in Stone Mountain in the C sack.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And you got me in the C sack worshiping you.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Please, please.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We have fell off.

[Deontay]

Yeah, we renting now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

All time low. We went from. We went from nature and land as far as I can see to a three bedroom, two bed bath in a subdivision in Stone Mountain.

[Deontay]

Stone Mountain.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, man.

[Deontay]

Just a little boxes on the hillside. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A little plug and play as house

[Big Ice Cupcat]

owned by invitation homes Crazy how we go from. How we go from eating fresh fruit and drinking from the river, touching the sea turtles.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

Would you.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Got you.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

We got you up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Nature boy. Don't respect nature.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Hawaii.

[Deontay]

I don't want to be disrespectful. It's American Island Pacific. Yeah. Hold on, man. I don't know. Aapi, AAC or some like that. No, not apac. American Pacific Islander. There we go. Heritage. Oh, a.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

A, P. I.

[Deontay]

Is it just. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month.

[Deontay]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember why I brought that up.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh. Cause them niggas was disrespectful. Yeah, man. You know what I'm saying? Like my. You know what I'm saying. Y' all wasn't too tapped in. Why y' all heard there touching the turtles?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man, he's supposed to. 14 days quarantine.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. And this is why you.

[Deontay]

They knew you was from the big. The big land.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

New from the mainland.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

I was acting real American out there.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That was a respect to nature. Y' all was acting real Babylonian.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Drinking from the river during COVID That's a sick.

[Deontay]

Listen, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know. You know,

[Deontay]

thought they was in Apocalypto.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

That's where they up thought they was the most Mayans.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

They wasn't. Is Americans.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Send these back.

[Deontay]

Send these back. First of all, it, you know, it's

[Big Ice Cupcat]

two places I don't want to ever

[Deontay]

get locked up at. Mexico, Hawaii and Hawaii.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's for sure.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hawaii. You way, you way, you way out there.

[Deontay]

Out there.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So far ahead from here, it's a

[Deontay]

10 hour flight behind you see what I'm saying?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's what I'm saying.

[Deontay]

From here flight, it's a five hour flight to Los Angeles. Another five, and then we doing another five.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, another five. From the land.

[Deontay]

From the land.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

And y was like, let's go touch the turps. Yeah. First of all, you protocol.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

First of all, you cuz, you cuz, you cuz y' all wasn't really living like that. Cuz what y' all should have did is took a boat to Hawaii. Y' all should have got on your moana. I should have got on your moana and got on the hit the eav.

[Deontay]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Should have found you a nice current like the Polynesians.

[Caller 3]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Get you a nice, nice current, find a nice current, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay]

Ended up on Easter Island.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Catch you with slip Street.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Them would have ended up on Easter island with the big heads. Yeah. Business would have never got back to.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

They would have never came back.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

First of all, nowhere to charge your phone on Easter.

[Deontay]

Nowhere.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That would have been up. That would have been. This have been a totally different document. Nature boy been ate them a lot of cannibals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The cannibalism, nature.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's crazy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Carbonation.

[Deontay]

From carbonation to cannibal.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, that would have been the document.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Would have been it.

[Deontay]

Yeah, bro. All right. Y' all did the right thing. Y' all took that flight. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But y' all is lowkey balling too. Having money.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, they had the money.

[Deontay]

They wasn't buying no clothes. They wasn't buying no hygiene products. I'm pretty sure they had.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This was telling people that your teeth

[Deontay]

supposed to be yellow.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's.

[Caller 2]

Wow.

[Deontay]

And that used to be a stripper.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

I mean, he, he the range on this. I mean, son,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

First of all, this talked himself into a life sentence.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

That's mental illness.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's crazy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's just mental illness.

[Deontay]

It's, it's, you know, whatever was keeping

[Big Ice Cupcat]

him like, like, it's like the further he got away from whatever meds he was on.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. The crazy, the craziness. Yeah. Wasn't he start painting his face.

[Deontay]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And then. And then, you know, you in it like, first of all, I'm not gonna

[Deontay]

be again in a.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

In a.

[Deontay]

In a two and a three bedroom, two bath feeding you fruit.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm not doing that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So what was he like? He was like strawberry. Strawberry. Right now, Grown man, grown man feeding another.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, crazy. Crazy work, son.

[Deontay]

He was playing. He was. He was punching them boys backs up, though. I mean, he's beating their backs up. He was beating everybody back up.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

He was.

[Deontay]

Everybody. Everybody. That wasn't sparing Nathan. He didn't care, you know, so, you know, hold your head, cuz.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Now you in south of Georgia, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They f. They f. To introduce you to the carbonation.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Carbonation State Prison.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The sweat equity that. Oh, we.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

We ain't got no fences now. He Just the gun line.

[Deontay]

Tell them about the gun line.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Just the gun line. Step into the gun line. You will be shot.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Go out there, nature boy. Let's see what you got. Big ice cup.

[Deontay]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You on your WIMBY today. You going wi.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, listen, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You win yama today.

[Deontay]

Oh, my God.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Let's see what you got.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

See what you got.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So you show with these Babylonian bullets. Yeah. Welcome back to Babylon. Welcome back.

[Deontay]

You gotta think about how crazy this memory bank is.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

This was once having his way. Having his way in Costa Rica. I mean, just beautiful nature with a bunch of. And. Yeah, that'll do.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Anything you say. Basically got slaves out there.

[Deontay]

Yeah, you got a bunch of ass

[Big Ice Cupcat]

out here doing anything you say.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Anything you say.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Imagine still thinking about that.

[Deontay]

From a. From a six by nine. You gotta.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

With somebody too. Oh, man.

[Deontay]

And they don't want to hear that.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

They don't want to hear that. Hey,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I wonder who he rocking with, though.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I wonder who he rocking with. Nah, he got.

[Deontay]

Listen, bro, if you could do it in the free world, you do it

[Big Ice Cupcat]

in the prison, you could find something. You could. He. He probably.

[Deontay]

He. He probably doing all right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I don't know, but he was beating

[Deontay]

up some ass like.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Deontay]

He was beating up. He was beating up men and women. He ain't give a.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's what I'm saying.

[Deontay]

Yeah, he got that pack, though. That's what's going to keep a up off him.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, he had the pack. I ain't get that part.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No.

[Deontay]

Well, no, it was very. Well, it was.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Well, not. Not the.

[Deontay]

Not the big pack. He got like a quarter pack. Okay.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Herpes.

[Deontay]

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. But yeah, it was very.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Well Known they was out there just

[Deontay]

handing out the herbs.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Man. That's crazy.

[Deontay]

Yeah, they was passing that around and you know they was on the Dr. Seby. They thought that Dr. Sebi died. You know, they thought the CMOS was going to get rid of.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

No, no, that work. No, baby, that's what that's with you.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That Babylonian medicine.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, you need that Babylonian medicine.

[Deontay]

But I'm just thinking like, dang, imagine like land as far as I can see. Fresh fruit, drinking out the river just. And getting your thoughts off on big go making money. Yeah. To a five by nine.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Now you're drinking toilet wine.

[Deontay]

Oh, now you getting everything Babylon got to offer.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, this is Babylon now here.

[Deontay]

Man. That's a tough one, bro. Tough son. That's a tough fall.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's a tough ball from grace. Then he was finna get out.

[Deontay]

Like I think they only gave a. Like I think his max out. I think he max out at like life, something like that.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

25.

[Deontay]

Yeah. Max out at life. This was. Had the. The sentence he originally got would have afforded him. Like he would have got out within I think the next 10 years. That went bucking on the judge. She said, you know what

[Big Ice Cupcat]

you gonna

[Deontay]

go ahead and do life. We're just gonna go ahead and give you life.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Give you life.

[Deontay]

Hey, talk this self into life. Talk to.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

So he just didn't know when to shut the up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Exactly.

[Deontay]

Exactly.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Cuz the nature boy she got.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Nature boy got you up.

[Deontay]

Even know this real name.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, just Nature Boy.

[Deontay]

Nature boy. All right, let me go to the final topic. All right. In connection to staying culture. In connection to black culture,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

black entertainment and, and.

[Deontay]

And greatness is bound, yet boundless. And I say this boundless.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Think about what's going on this week. We got back rooms coming out.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

With don't want to mess up his name. Great actor though. Great actor. I know you talking about. It's got is.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

It's got is.

[Deontay]

Gotta check that out.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, I want to see that.

[Deontay]

Boosters want to see that too.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We got some good shit coming out.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to see that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Great, great black leads. Two of those films

[Deontay]

written and directed by black people.

[Caller 2]

Mm.

[Deontay]

Black actors, black cast.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean beautiful.

[Deontay]

To be able to celebrate these things all at once.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Whereas in the past this is one at a time. So black entertainment and greatness is boundless,

[Deontay]

yet limited with the obsession of competition. Limited by the obsession of competition.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The spotlight should be shown on the

[Deontay]

bleachers, but instead has been that of a rotating musical chair.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

See, we could shine the spotlight on the bleachers.

[Deontay]

This is what's happening now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But when it comes to hip hop,

[Deontay]

there's still this air of competition that we're obsessed with.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So the reason why they can't let

[Deontay]

go of the Drake vs. Kendrick thing is this obsession with competition that exists in black entertainment and in the. In the. In the, you know, the vastness of black greatness. We get into this place where we can compare. There doesn't need to be a goat

[Big Ice Cupcat]

or a proverbial number one, but access for black entertainment had. Access for black entertainers has been limited to this one at a time bubble. To the point where we start comparing n peaks.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Deontay]

Yeah, we start comparing they peaks.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You understand what I'm saying? And that is something that's incomparable. One peak ain't gonna look like the next. Why are we comparing it? And by this obsession with competition and we say, oh, it's the culture. Well, you know, things can change. There was no constitution. There was no constitution. We can evolve. You are not a tree. You can move.

[Deontay]

Yeah, we can evolve.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We can evolve past this need for competition. Now, competition comes from what? Scarcity, scarcity, mindset. Competition comes from what? It's a limiting factor. Mm. Now, healthy competition is great.

[Deontay]

It keeps everybody sharp. It keeps people on point.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But when your critique is rooted in competition, when your critique is rooted in

[Deontay]

being a fanatic, it limits the bounds of greatness and entertainment.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And because access had been limited to

[Deontay]

this one at a time thing, okay, there was this need for somebody to be the greatest. That's how limited it was. The greatest. Everybody got to be the greatest. This is a competition. We could do away with competition. And we need to embrace community. You don't have to pick one or the other. We could do away with the stand culture. These niggas ain't your gods. They're just men.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They're just women.

[Deontay]

They're just people.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They're people who have pursued their passions

[Deontay]

and became deified for it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now, whether they embrace that deity or

[Deontay]

not and refuse, you know, when you embrace the deification, then you relinquish your individualism. Individualism is important, but community is the end all, be all. It should be community. You need somebody to embrace these things with.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is the reason why they give you these monikers.

[Deontay]

It's only at the top. Yeah, they give you these things, but it doesn't have to be.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You have a foundation. Not if you don't fuck niggas over. You take care of your people. It won't be lonely and you might be the one. So it may be hard for you to find people in your circle that understand what you go through. But when you the one guess what you do, you attract other number ones and then you find solace in your positions in life. But when you in competition,

[Deontay]

you feel very isolated.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This need for competition not only needs to be done away with by the entertainers, you know, this idea that there's not enough room for everybody needs to

[Deontay]

be done away with.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is not a musical chair.

[Deontay]

This is a bleacher.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's a bleacher. It's room for everybody to eat. And y' all look good when y'

[Deontay]

all do it together.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm glad is God is and boosters drops right around the same time.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's not about competition or comparison.

[Deontay]

It's about shining light on greatness.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

These two directors aren't in competition with each other. They're making two different films. They're expressing theyself in two different ways. It's not about competition. It's a collaborative effort. It's a celebratory time for black people and black entertainment for sure.

[Deontay]

But y' all want to reduce things to competition because you used to access being limited. Well, listen, man, we're creating our own accesses now. You don't got to pick one or the other. Because when you limit yourself to competition, then you open yourself up to being a loser.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

When your pursuit of your passion is

[Deontay]

competitive and that competition isn't within within self. See, the competition should be within itself to be better.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

When you see other greatnesses should inspire

[Deontay]

you, not create envy. When you see other people being great, you shouldn't say, that should be me. You should say, what are they doing? So I can start applying some of those things to myself.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Facts.

[Deontay]

If they can achieve it, I can too.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Facts.

[Deontay]

You shouldn't see humanity as this thing that has to be swapped out, that has to be siphoned. Humanity is a university. We should be looking at each other to learn. We should be looking at each other and say, hey, we all got these same capabilities. Your passion ain't my passion. Your gifts ain't my gifts. But the opportunities is for all of us, right? What did you do so I could apply it to myself and use my passion and my gift to navigate to those same opportunities, navigate myself to the place I want to be.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Absolutely.

[Deontay]

Ain't on the red carpet talking about who got the better pictures on the red carpet. Like, hey, bro, we on the red carpet.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

On the red carpet.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What y' all do? Who wore the best dress?

[Deontay]

Everything. Competition to keep things limited, to keep you out.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

See, one of this obsession with competition opens you up to being a loser

[Deontay]

cop. Now, when you. When you take the. When you take the farmer, you open yourself up to collaboration, and you keep

[Big Ice Cupcat]

the competition within self.

[Deontay]

You welcome yourself into being a winner. Because we can all win, we can all eat. But this access has been limited, and

[Big Ice Cupcat]

this is not doings of our own. Nigga. Recognize what your history is, Know what you come from? No. Why? They didn't want City Portier, Sidney Poitier to have any. They want five Sidney Portiers. Even though it was very much possible, understand why they embraced Jackie Robinson and did away with the Negro League. Niggas was going to watch niggas to

[Deontay]

play ball and not that boring ass

[Big Ice Cupcat]

cracker jackass baseball they was playing. It's the reason why they integrated. It's the reason why they allowed us in their spaces. Because when we operate on our own, that's what everybody wants to see. So what they do with their integration is remove our infrastructure and keep our talent. And then they get to dictate the

[Deontay]

value of the talent while whoring you out to competition. There doesn't have to be a goat or number one. The access is no longer limited, and we don't need to compare people at their peaks. We need to appreciate them because the spotlight should be shown on the bleachers and not just this rotating musical chair. We'll be right back after these commercial breaks. We back.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay]

We are back.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Busy. Yeah.

[Deontay]

We are back.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

We're back, baby.

[Deontay]

You know, look, if you made it this far, there's a thing that you could do on the video called hyping the video. That really helps it out, that really helps us get the push. So if you go down to the ellipsis, three dots. It's three dots.

[Caller 2]

Scroll, scroll, hit.

[Deontay]

Hype that video, man. Hype the video, man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Hype the video.

[Deontay]

You know, like, share, subscribe, hype, you know, clip that. Clip it, clip it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay]

Six, five, seven, two, three, four eggs. That's six, five, seven, two, three, four.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Three, four, four, seven.

[Deontay]

If you would like to call in and leave a voice message. All right, we're gonna get to these voice, to these emails, man, into these voice notes.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Let's do it.

[Caller 3]

What's up, Deontay? You guys cook at? This is Dre. I'm a studio music and jazz major. I just graduated from the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, as of today. Today was a graduation day, and as I Think about my next steps. I wanted to ask. Graduation season, when it came to moving and setting roots in a new city or a new area, I want to study up in New Jersey. I got a few friends who were up there who also graduated from ut, and I'm originally from Memphis, Tennessee, but I'm currently staying in Knoxville. My question is, how do you go about creating or joining a community when you first set roots in a new city? Say, maybe the first few weeks, the first two weeks. What are some of the first things you'll do to kind of establish yourself within certain groups of people? You know, I really want to hit the ground running and just be intentional with those who I seek out and get to know. And also, there any cousins up there? Yeah, I want to get to know some of y', all, you know, and yeah, also, if anyone need a roommate,

[Caller 2]

just let me know.

[Caller 3]

Yeah, that's really it. And yeah, how do I kind of start anew and, you know, get things going?

[Caller 2]

Appreciate it.

[Caller 3]

And I love y' all show and, you know, all the accolades people usually give you. Same here. But I love all my artists, too, all my creatives out there, especially the Patreon. I am a cousin. Thank you.

[Deontay]

Hey, man, look, if you know, shout out to the cousins. Yeah, shout out to the cousins.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now, you know, if you a cousin, you know you gonna find some cousins that's tapped in where you at for sure. So you caught the cheat code. Low key.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, you do.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Keep gristing ass. Be making niggas have a cheat code.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Got the cheat code, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Cause you move to a new city, you already know Buku niggas.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what I'm saying? Unless you move to fucking Wisconsin or some shit.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. He said he going to Jersey, right?

[Deontay]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I believe he say Jersey.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Let me see if you go into Jersey.

[Caller 3]

I wanted to ask advice when it came to moving and setting roots in a new city or a new area. I want to study up in New Jersey. I got a few friends who were up there who also graduated from ut, and I'm originally from Memphis, Tennessee, but I'm currently staying in Knoxville. Question is, how do you go about.

[Deontay]

So he's studying it. He going to study in New Jersey. Currently live in Knoxville.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So any of the New Jersey cousins make yourself. You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay]

Listen, brother, make yourself known in Discord, you know what I'm saying? And. And you'll find some folks. But also, again, find out where the niggas at.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Find out where the niggas at.

[Deontay]

Find out where a black coffee shop is. You know, the niggas at the coffee shop know the shit.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

They know shit.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This thing.

[Deontay]

Oftentimes niggas get pigeonholed in the coffee shop, man. You think these niggas is. Everything they do is woke.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

These niggas like to shake ass, too, bruh.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what I'm saying? But also, you know, they're gonna be

[Deontay]

hip to everything that's going on.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

These are people that are gonna be pillars in community.

[Deontay]

The community.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

So they know everything from the highs to the lows.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But find yourself, you know, find.

[Deontay]

Find a black. Find a black bookstore, a library, you

[Big Ice Cupcat]

know, and just figure out. And then, you know, Instagram is great

[Deontay]

with having, like, localized pages for events.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know, just. Just start. You know, just start showing your face, man. Once you start. Once you start showing up in the same spaces, people gonna be inquisitive. Who.

[Deontay]

Who this on that net?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, who that on that net, son?

[Deontay]

Who is that on that net? Yeah, man, you're gonna be good, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And especially you. You know, you're a collegiate, brother. You know how.

[Deontay]

You know how it is that I. You know, it's not a network. You know how to network. Yeah, but you know how to adapt that, too. And your adaptability skills is gonna shine through, but you're gonna be good, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Congratulations.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, congratulations for sure.

[Deontay]

Definitely proud of you, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Shout out my Rich Grills, too.

[Deontay]

Just graduated with his PhD.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Just graduated. Shout out to Rich Grills. Speaking of Rich Grills, you've been shining all episode brought to you by Rich Grills.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

TR Put a thing.

[Deontay]

Put one for sure. Yeah. Shout out my rich man. Cool, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Rich. Rich, cool, man.

[Deontay]

Cool ass, man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man. Pop popped up at ATL event, man.

[Deontay]

Man, come on, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Pushed up on us.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay]

All right, let's do it.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

What we got next?

[Caller 2]

Hey, Deontay, Kyle. Big isopcat. What up, dove? My name is Gayo Ogwindipe. I ain't gonna lie, man. I keep it short sweet with y'.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

All.

[Caller 2]

I don't want to take up too much of y' all time. I'm a recent grad from the University of Michigan. I've been unemployed since December.

[Deontay]

All right.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

A lot of graduates.

[Deontay]

Yeah, man. We gonna make noise for our graduates every time I figure this out, though. Sound, my boy need some help, man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

Help my boy out, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Baby, I'm f to say you need

[Deontay]

me, baby

[Big Ice Cupcat]

on me like some green tea, baby.

[Deontay]

What is that?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's.

[Deontay]

That Dishwasher.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's what it is.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

That. Like to make a little tune when it's time.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

God damn. It's been done for a while.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's been done for a minute.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

It's been beeping.

[Deontay]

Two hours. I mean, it's been beeping, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

The page was going up.

[Deontay]

You know how I'm getting.

[Caller 2]

And it feels impossible to get a job, man. Find purpose. I can't even get a job at, like, my local gym or, like, gas station or nothing like that. I have a degree. Bachelor of science in engineering. In material science. Engineering. My number.

[Deontay]

I want to put your number out there. You put it out there?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

I mean, is this supposed to be for us? Hold on. Let's listen to it. Might have to take this out.

[Caller 2]

Anybody calling me, but I'm just looking for an opportunity.

[Deontay]

I'm sorry, you know, but if y' all can help this brother, please reach out to him.

[Caller 2]

My number had no problem with anybody calling me, but I'm just looking for an opportunity right now. I'm in Michigan, but it's. I'm just looking for opportunity, man. It's. It's a dire situation, so I'm just sending out my last chances, I guess. But I appreciate y', all, as always, you know.

[Deontay]

Hey, my nigga, you gonna be all right.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

You gonna be good.

[Deontay]

You know what I'm saying? You just graduated. It's not easy. The transition is not easy, bro. He has graduated with his bachelor's of science in engineering. He is in Michigan. He's looking for opportunity. If anybody knows of any opportunities that we can get, this young brother, he's obviously going through a space of, like, being discouraged. But you're gonna be all right, man. Listen, bro. Young.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, young man, bro, We. We've.

[Deontay]

We've all been there, bro.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

And I get it, man. When it's like, you feel like you've done everything right and now, like, the opportunities ain't aligning, bro, those are some of the toughest parts you be in. In life. But, brother, when you come out on that other side, you're gonna look back and you're gonna appreciate those times. Cause it showed you the value of, like, really just what it means to, like, when you gonna keep going, bro? Like, you can't.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You have to be in a space

[Deontay]

where you refuse to let this be the thing that break you.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

If you can go through, follow through,

[Deontay]

and get your bachelor's and. And.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I don't know.

[Deontay]

Bullshit, you know, Science and engineering, bro,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

it's not no joke.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Ain't no joke.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And you.

[Deontay]

You looking for a space to get your feet wet. And you will find that, bro. But just don't. Don't give your hope up. It's okay to go through a space of discouragement. We've all been there.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So I won't tell you to speed

[Deontay]

yourself out of it, but understand that, like, you know, change gonna come, my nigga. Like, if anybody is in science and engineering and they know of any opportunities that they can help this young man get, whether that be in at home, like, whether it be a work from home situation, or whether that be somewhere where he can get an internship or somewhere. Somewhere where this young man can get his start. Please reach out to us or reach out to him directly. He left his number. And we're just gonna let that rock out. He's obviously looking for opportunity to the point where he put that out there.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

So we're gonna let him. We're gonna. We're gonna honor this, man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

Ain't gonna let him rock.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man. You're gonna be all right, brother.

[Deontay]

I'm gonna be all right, young man.

[Caller 1]

What's up, Grits and eggs podcast? What up, Deontay? What up, the Ice cup cat? I am getting married in 2028. It will. Oh, y' all thinking, why she telling us now? Because I'm locking in the price now. I need Big Ice Cut Cat to DJ my wedding. I just seen Beyonce on bet, so I know the prices are going up. So I'm getting y' all now. So I just want to give you a little background. I am from la and my fiance, the husband, is from Florida, so we need, like,

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

something going on.

[Deontay]

I'mma disconnect and reconnect. Yeah, my bad.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Damn.

[Deontay]

We don't shorty up. She like, she has something to say. Yeah, we going. We'll run it. I ain't going to run it back today, but I'mma put a star next to it. So we'll run it back next week. They want us at the wedding.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Big Cat going to get his first wedding gig. 20, 28. Yeah. I mean, God damn.

[Deontay]

So far.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Here, go drop that deposit now.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

We need it right now.

[Deontay]

You don't want to hear my price.

[Caller 1]

Cali Crip music. And then we won't have a first dance. Our first dance will be. And then my fiance, soon to be husband, is from Florida, so we need, like, Florida juca music meets Cali Crip music. And then we won't have a first dance. Our dance will be Everybody on the dance floor doing the electric fly before I let go. And I just want to let y' all know you are more than welcome to come. The drinks, the food, everything will be provided on me. Y' all just bring yourself, get ready to DJ and have a good ass time. Thank you so much. I love you guys. Keep doing your thing and yeah, thank you, man.

[Deontay]

Shout out to love, bro.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay]

Shout out to black love.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Lock it in now prices.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Lock it in 2026 prices. Lock that in 2028 to the moon

[Deontay]

cost more than a wedding.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

N. We going to show some love. Yeah, man, you know what?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm put a. I'm put a link tree in my bio, man, to this dj.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I told you something.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Put a link.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I told you it's time you dj. You DJ for the hottest black podcast on earth.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, that's right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Independent at that.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

At that.

[Deontay]

It's time. It's time.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's time for Big Cat to show up.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, I'm putting a leak tree in the bio.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man. Time for big Cat on the ones and twos, man.

[Deontay]

Yeah, man, it's time.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man, we don't need to. You know what I'm saying? Hey, man, look, brother, you know I'm not a. I'm no tyrant. I want you to make money.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

That's right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So long as it don't interfere with what we doing over here, my brother. Do what you want.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

We good, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You go to Alaska and dj.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Make sure you back on a Sunday.

[Deontay]

On a Sunday.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So we can this episode out for sure. I don't care if the gig is Saturday. Saturday night.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Just make sure back make sure you on Sunday. You know, it don't get dark out there. It don't get dark in Alaska. Straight to the airport.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

To the airport, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Got a light season right now because it's red eye. Hold the red is survive.

[Deontay]

Oh, the kid just red out be like, look, I ain't got too much to say this. All right? You go get you a gig.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Go get you some chili.

[Deontay]

You bring Shadarik at this buff.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

God.

[Deontay]

On the big show.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

That was him. Pedro crazy. Go go wild out. Yeah.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

My counsel GR next Derek going to

[Deontay]

have a security for sure that been in that gym.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

They could be putting them up.

[Deontay]

So, hey, look, man, we're gonna infuse both his skill set. He's gonna be the driver and the head of security.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

They've been putting them up.

[Deontay]

So, man, look, listen. That one of them that want to shake your hand and.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Really show you, like, I got strength. Yeah, I'm not.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

I ain't no chump.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, I'm that. But yo, stop squeezing my bro.

[Deontay]

I know you, bro. You ain't got to shake mine.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, come on, man. Know what you can do.

[Deontay]

I get it, man. I see you, son.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what you can do.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I know you for mad long, bro.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man. Know you're a big country from this country.

[Deontay]

Work on a car and slide country right there. Ain't worried about falling on you. Don't give a damn. Shout out, my man. Yeah, man. All right, career advice. Let's make this big. Oh, my bad, son. Good morning, deontay. And the greatest co host in the

[Big Ice Cupcat]

world, Big Ice cupcat. Hope all is well.

[Deontay]

Huge fan of the podcast. Caught a clip on TikTok 2024. Been tapping in ever since. Doing the knowledge, reaching out for advice and hoping the cousins can help. I'm a high school AP Literature teacher with eight years in the classroom. Oh, shout out to the real ap.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Ap.

[Deontay]

But I'm absolutely over it.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

God damn it.

[Deontay]

Damn it, y' all burning these teachers out, she says. I've been burned out since 2022 and I can't seem to bag another road. Despite getting a handful of interviews, I've been targeting learning and development training as it's a natural transition from teaching, but I'm not moving past the second round because my resume doesn't include. My resume doesn't include an A. Direct L and D job title experience. My ultimate goal is to work for a company with like minded, hopefully black individuals, where I can actually make an impact. I'm based in Dallas, Texas, so I'm open to roles in the area or fully remote. I'm also considering moving back home to Maryland to be closer to my grandmother in Baltimore while she goes through cancer treatment. If there are any cousins out there in the L and D space willing to share some advice or insight on breaking in that would mean a lot. Love to show.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Keep going. Hey man, help our cousin get into

[Deontay]

the L and D space.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She can't keep being out here burnt out in the classroom.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

She burnt out.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She burnt out.

[Deontay]

She want to be in learning and development training. Learning and development.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Any cousin in the L and D space, please reach out to me, let me know something. I will link you up with the

[Deontay]

cousin and then we gonna get this shit cracking.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You hear what I mean?

[Deontay]

All right. Hello Gristnex family.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

My name is Blank.

[Deontay]

She is in discord. I wanted to reach out regarding my son, Maxwell. Maxwell, 10 year old and was recently nominated for National Youth Leadership Forum, the NYLF Pathways to stem, a prestigious academic program where students learn from engineers, doctors and STEM professionals at select universities. Okay.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This opportunity means so much to us

[Deontay]

because Maxwell has always struggled with feeling like he fits in. He is not naturally athletic or sports focused like many boys his age. At times it has affected his confidence socially. However, academically he is absolutely phenomenal. He is incredibly intelligent, curious, mature, deeply interested in technology, engineering, video games and how the systems work behind the scenes. For the first time, he has the opportunity to be surrounded by children who think like him, dream like him and are passionate about learning and innovation. I truly believe this experience could help shape how he sees himself in his future. Maxwell's biological father battles with addiction. As a parent, I am constantly searching for positive environments and mentorship and community that can guide Maxwell towards the future he deserves. Many resources and programs for young boys are often centered around athletics and children struggling behaviorally or academically. But there are not always enough spaces. GR created for gifted, quiet, intellectually driven children who simply need encouragement, exposure and people who believe in them. We are currently trying to raise funds to help cover his tuition so he can attend this life changing program. I'm reaching out to the cousins to potentially build a community from outside of this experience. Also fuck with us cousins.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This being.

[Deontay]

Thank you all for taking time to read this message. Thank you for everything you do in the community. I posted information in Discord under It Takes a Village session. Oh yeah, the. The. It Takes a Village tab on Discord, man. Let's help our young nephew, man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Listen, this will do.

[Deontay]

Set up an official fundraiser

[Caller 2]

through.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What's the. What's the.

[Deontay]

What's the. What's the thing that's not. It's is GoFundMe. And there's another thing.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Hold on, I got you. Look it up.

[Deontay]

I mean I'm on the computer. My bad, son.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Good. You got funy Kickstarter.

[Deontay]

So there's a lot of them.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, Kickstarter.

[Deontay]

Let's through a website. We got Help them out. Shout out to young Maxwell. Yeah, Maxwell and he need like 3, 400 to cover tuition. But I don't know. How much are we gonna need? Yeah. Cause she just got like a donation link through cash out. I don't want to do that.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, don't do that.

[Deontay]

Yeah, she got like a flyer and everything. A little official. Okay. I mean, I don't think, you know,

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I don't think she'd be lying on Maxwell.

[Deontay]

Yeah, we're gonna. We're gonna see what we're gonna do. I'm gonna reach out to him. Yeah, get that to go. I got that. All right, Last email. Then we would get up out of here.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, we got the 222 11, 211 mark.

[Deontay]

Oh, yeah. Still reserved.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

It's been a minute since the 2:11 mark, man.

[Deontay]

We.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I don't know. This might be the longest one.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We back, man. You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay]

We. Give me all the. Guess man is back.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The boys is back in town.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

The boys is back, baby.

[Deontay]

Real nature, boys. What's up, Deontay Big Ice Cup Courvoisier Cat.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, my.

[Deontay]

I've been rocking with y' all since last year, specifically after Deontay was cooking with them Birkin bags. Sandra got a cousin full of funny as hell. Since then, I've been tapping in religiously. Even joined the Patreon last month. Oh, $8. What's up, Kazmo?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Keep doing what y' all do.

[Deontay]

I love the space y' all have created for us. Anyway, just turned 30 at the beginning of the year. Trying to figure out direction my life and career. Live in South Tennessee with my girl and work at a factory. Honestly, pays better than any job that I have. It's got good benefits. But the work to me is very menial, and I don't like the people I work with. My co workers, specifically black ones, are a little too antiquated for me. The white people are just racist. That ain't nothing new. But the black ones, men and women, are just basically a bunch of free Tory Lane ass niggas. Jesus.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, my.

[Deontay]

Who, as an example, on one night shift, got involved in a game of 20 Questions in which they came up with fake scenarios of when it would be okay to hit a woman.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

What?

[Deontay]

Intentionally trying to get me to agree with them, knowing I wouldn't Deontay Big Cat. I hate this place. I came to the job from Atlanta with a plan of working my way up in the corporate space. But I wasn't making real money in Atlanta. I was working as a PA and I was trying to be a television writer, storyboard artist. But the writers strike happened in 2023. Made me question stability of the industry I thought I wanted to be in so bad. So my uncle advised me to come work at his job in Tennessee. Just put some money in my pocket. I said, fuck it, since I already have My bachelor's have worked in clerical positions before my uncle was in hr. I thought I could shoot my way up in a year. But after the racism, coonery, misogyny and joining employee programs that brand the idea of promoting success and hiring from within, I'm learning that it what it takes. I'm starting that it takes a long, long time to get in the roles that I want and I'm not that patient. And on top of that, at this time the company has been downsizing. They even laid off his uncle. So I'm better get out. Yeah, you gotta get up out of there. My girl and I didn't even want to come here in the first place. Okay.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And that's where the problem lies.

[Deontay]

We're trying to figure out where we'll go next once our lease is up in February. Currently trying to get my CAPM by late summer, early fall to become project manager. I want to lead programs and do community based work, local government type work. Get back to my community as a full time profession and make enough money

[Big Ice Cupcat]

to be stable enough to buy a

[Deontay]

home and start a family. Yes nigga, the American dream. I want to do this work in a black city like ATL or clt. However, my girl is from Seattle. She's down to go where I go. She lived in ATL since 2015, is even interested in trying Charlotte. But I know she misses home and her family. While I'm incredibly fearful to move out that way, I would never want to keep her away from her family. I told her after I get my certification, I will apply for jobs in multiple cities. But is it wrong that I hope we settle down south? Should I pour my all into Seattle which surprisingly has way more black people than I thought? Or am I overthinking the situation and just go where God guides me, you know? You know Seattle does have like a booming black population and Tacoma is right there. Are we going to Seattle? Yeah, I'm going to hike when I go out there.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Mount St. Hel.

[Deontay]

You see what I'm saying? See what I'm saying?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I just want to be a good

[Deontay]

provider to this woman I hope to be with forever. I want her to take her. I want to take her opinions into consideration. I want to make a career doing something that matter to me. I'm honestly ashamed that I haven't gotten there yet by 30. Any advice will help. Listen, it takes a while, takes a minute. I didn't have it figured out by 30. Here's the thing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You want it, you'll get it.

[Deontay]

You Already obviously are the type of person that understands how to plan and go forth with things. I think. I think. I think we try Seattle.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I think do both do show that in Seattle. Apply.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Well, of course.

[Deontay]

But I mean, I think you just stay away from Atlanta. Just.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, stay away from Atlanta.

[Deontay]

Yeah, let Atlanta girl. Yeah, you tried Atlanta. It didn't work.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's not.

[Deontay]

You know, there's more places of opportunity in this country for black people. Let's try Charlotte. Yeah, but the reason why I say Seattle is because you could tell that she's.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She homesick.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. She want to go to Seattle.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Here's the thing.

[Deontay]

And nobody. It's obviously permanence hasn't been a thing for y'.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

All.

[Deontay]

But y' all are getting older.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You never know. You never know. What if you go to Seattle and

[Deontay]

you have the fucking career and time of your motherfucking life. Listen, I'm from the South. I know how that shit is. I don't want to leave this bitch.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm so comfortable down here.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Just makes sense.

[Deontay]

It's not even about a culture shock. It's like, this is where I want to be.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, but your girl from out there.

[Deontay]

And you gotta make compromises in relationships.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

You do.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And I think that we sleep on, like, the kind of economy Seattle has.

[Deontay]

Like, it's a booming city, son. It is. That's really a joint.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

I think you'd be all right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You'd be all right, man. I think that, like you said.

[Deontay]

Listen, first and foremost, trying to get your capm and doing it is two different things.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Do it

[Big Ice Cupcat]

also start a job.

[Deontay]

Start applying for jobs in your.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's within your degree right now.

[Deontay]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Start. Let's. Let's just try it out. Let's just see. Because, see, this is another thing, too. This is a transitional period.

[Deontay]

Y' all don't have any kids.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What if you find a job in Seattle?

[Caller 2]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She got family out there? I don't know.

[Deontay]

I don't know.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Seattle don't seem like the type of

[Deontay]

place where is moving to be broke.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

I ain't on. You know, I'm not judging. I'm sure poverty is universal.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But here's the thing. Maybe you go stay with the folks for a little bit, you know, get yourself stable, get on your feet.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She'll be happy because she'll be back home.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yep.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Y' all gonna, you know, get. Get the wind behind your back, son.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay]

That's all we looking for.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, but don't be trying to get your cap.

[Deontay]

Get it Go get that.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Get it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Cause before you know it, the end of summer be here.

[Deontay]

You'll be like, oh, I'm still trying. Ain't got time for that. You got to consider this woman, too.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay]

She holding you down. But if you want to start a family, you know, I'll say this.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The action to do something that, you

[Deontay]

know, just gonna make her happy is intrinsically just gonna be better for your relationship. It's just gonna make the relationship better. She's gonna feel considered. She's gonna feel thought about. And we have to also stop this mentality of, like, I need to do more. I gotta have it all figured out. By this time, that woman ain't going nowhere. That woman love you. She wanna start the family with you.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So let's do.

[Deontay]

Let's make a gesture that's extremely considerate of her. Why?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You figured other things out. You 30 years old. If you don't start out with money,

[Deontay]

most people ain't gonna have it figured out by 30. I didn't have it figured out at 30, but boy. Boy, these last five years, I was on my way.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay]

I had started in a truck.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Probably been in the truck about a little. Good year. Good year and some change. No, I think. I think I got truck driving. I got my CDL in 2019. So, yeah, I was only a year, and I wasn't getting no money. I was figuring it out. I was doing all right.

[Deontay]

I was in my career. But, shit, we weren't getting no money. We were just trying to figure it out.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And you figured it out. But I think that. I think, you know, I think, you

[Deontay]

know, you need to do something for her. But I know that you, you know, selfishly, you want to stay in the South.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

But she's been extremely selfless with everything. So it's time for you to exercise some selflessness. Let that girl, you know, go out there.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You never know, friend. Man, if she happier.

[Deontay]

Yeah, you happier.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

You happy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You don't want to have to adapt.

[Deontay]

But she's been adapting.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

So it's time for some reciprocation.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Seattle up, brother.

[Deontay]

Seattle it up. Help to that P, that B and W. Mm.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And you never know, you know, Kevin on stage from out there.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

You know, opportunities out there, my nigga.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Go get it to it. I think that you scared to jump.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, you scared to jump.

[Deontay]

But I'm telling you to jump.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

You gotta jump, brother.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You gotta jump.

[Deontay]

And you know, you have a support system out there.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Your uncle was your support system in Tennessee.

[Deontay]

And.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And.

[Deontay]

And that writing is on the wall. Don't be the that wait until the ink dry. And now you out of a job and now you desperate. Yeah, the writing is on the wall.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Let's stop worrying about moving up in

[Deontay]

this company and finding out how the we going to get out of it. Yeah, let's get to Seattle and let's get to Seattle. Yeah, you'll have a support system out there. And her family. Y' all seem like some good young folks.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Take that leap.

[Deontay]

My.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yep.

[Deontay]

Well, this has been episode 147.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

God damn. What episode? This is Paul says the Paul says

[Deontay]

This is episode 147 of the Carbonation podcast Grizzly Next podcast, man. I am your host, Deontay. But who is behind the camera the

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

coolest co host, Big Ice Cupcat.

[Deontay]

How you feeling, man?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You. You ready to do this? God damn. This a long.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

It's a long episode, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

God damn.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

This about the longest one we've ever had.

[Deontay]

This the longest one, man, we just.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Two hour two. 222. Oh, oh, there too much west coast dick licking. Uhoh.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

We at 222.

[Deontay]

Yeah. Yeah, man. You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

It's time to end it. Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

It's time to end two. Yeah, let's just end it for the spiritual girlies right there.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Two, two, two. All right, man. Well, like hype the video.

[Deontay]

Subscribe with us.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Grisnet podcast live in Costa Rica. We'll see y'.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

All.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

It's just hip hop.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's just.

[Deontay]

You know what I'm saying? It's just my.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

It's just raps, man.

[Poet/Spoken Word Artist]

Turn me up, man.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

It's just raps.

[Deontay]

I just want to rap. I just want to rap, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I just want to.

[Co-host/Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah,

[Deontay]

Yeah.

[Poet/Spoken Word Artist]

They say without the proper labor, faith

[Big Ice Cupcat]

don't stand a chance.

[Poet/Spoken Word Artist]

I put my faith in faith and stand on fertile land. I planted seeds Adeline de turn into trees before rest in peace teas get printed to me unless it impeded. Matter of fact, that got me thinking back when Mr. Love was tending to his garden, schooling me to annuity before he grabbed his clubs to go golfing. And it's no coincidence that do still had the caddy back when woods were still the best. Don't let me roll off course here. Georgie Pops was dropping gems while I was lighting sigs. But you know, I too was listening with you see, that's the best that I can do. Wisdom is the application of knowledge. I was picking up what he was putting down. Just wasn't applying it. I ain't denying it. Nah, maybe I was too busy trying to find the balance between religion and science. Trying to get to the bottom of everything while being the highest. Like a pilot's roots. Am I right, brother? Cause I was simultaneously relaying it through reason and rhyming that I sought for us dissecting systems responsible for our imprisonment. The visionary with astigmatism in scarred courtiers. If love is blind, then what am I? You can't fight fate. That's why.

[Caller 2]

So.