Episode 151 - Bring Back The Dirty Mack

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast — Episode 151: Bring Back The Dirty Mack

Host: Deante’ Kyle
Co-Host: Big Ice Cupcat
Date: June 5, 2026

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Overview

In this special episode, Deante’ Kyle is joined on camera by co-host Big Ice Cupcat for a loose, unfiltered Saturday session (normally a solo episode). The two dive into nostalgic R&B "dirty macking" songs, reflect on their podcasting journey, discuss the realities of working class life (especially warehouse jobs), and tackle current events—especially the trial verdict in the Rick Chow case and conversations on anti-Blackness and accountability in Asian and Black communities. The episode flows with Southern humor, authenticity, and wisdom.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Housekeeping, Announcements, and Tour Updates

• New merch and tour tickets are available for LA (June 25) and Philadelphia (June 18). The Father's Day event with 2 Chainz was canceled (01:15).
• National tour (the "Coming to America Tour") confirmed (04:29).
• Deante’ hosting United We Heal Film Festival in Philly on Juneteenth; shoutouts to the Philly arts scene (04:45).
• Voicemail line for listeners: 657-234-EGGS (03:13).

2. Big Cat on Camera & Social Media Plugs

• Big Ice Cupcat makes a rare on-camera appearance, brings his signature relaxed vibe ("I got the marble. I had to come off, man… I got two pillows. I'm very comfy." — 08:02).
• Promoting "Wind Down Wednesdays" and "House Music Fridays" on TikTok Live (08:25).
• Big Ice Cupcat shares his social media handles (08:45).

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3. Main Theme: Bring Back The Dirty Mack

The Joy & Ethics of 'Dirty Macking' in R&B

• Dirty macking defined: Love songs trying to woo someone else's partner, a common R&B trope in the '90s-2000s (09:18).
• Deante’ waxes nostalgic on "I Can Love You Better" by Mary J. Blige, Jagged Edge, Joe (All the Things), Drew Hill, Mario ("Let Me Love You"), and others, deconstructing their lyrics and “dirty mack” sentiment.
  • "Mary J. Blige got in the booth and made a song telling the look, I can love you better than her." (09:34)
  • "We never bring up the contributions by Drew Hill...they give instructions: Step one, walk through that door..." (12:05)
  • Joe’s “All the Things” — extensive, hilarious breakdown of how outrageous and “dirty” the lyrics are, including promises of a thousand candles, yacht trips, and making bodies "cream" (13:39-25:03).
  • "You get a thousand candles, a yacht at night, black sand beach, make your body cream with my sex machine..." (24:32)
• Noting the shift in cultural norms: Dirty macking was popular pre-social media; now considered "cringe" or desperate (10:26).
• Reflection on R&B's influence on love games and masculinity.

Memorable Music Moments (Notable Quotes):

• "Outside in the rain, come on, man... black sand, all this Audi's out of a book. Selling the girl a dream."—Deante' (17:15)
• "With Joe, you get a thousand candles. All around. A yacht. At night. At a beach. What's that beach got? Black sand. And if that's not enough, if it start raining, Oh, I'ma ... you up all night." — Deante' & Big Cat (24:32)
• "Yo, girls was dirty mackin' too. Whitney Houston, 'Saving All My Love for You!'" (29:42)
• The "Best Dirty Mack Songs" list, commentary on LL Cool J, Jagged Edge, Mario, Joe, Adina Howard, and their personal impact (27:01-31:01).
• Big Cat: “My mama used to sing that Kelly Price song (It’s Morning)... I knew my parents weren’t gonna make it.” (30:25)

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4. Real Life Reflections: Fame, Family, and The Podcast Grind

• Fame & public recognition: The weirdness of being recognized in public, especially for Big Cat, who is not usually on camera (38:44–42:04).
  • "To be recognized like that and not even be on camera...that's power.” (41:19)
  • Family reactions—mothers very supportive, fathers slower to understand new-age careers (46:03).
• Podcast journey: Reflecting on starting out, growth, being one of the top five culture podcasts (39:14–39:44).
  • “We are top five podcasts, man. Yeah… in our culture, for what we want.” (39:19)
  • Integrity, independence, and resisting quick-money sponsorships/tradeoffs.
• Work ethic and work-life balance: Deante' considers how to stay motivated and "step your game up" as the podcast succeeds (51:00–58:34).
  • Struggles with rest vs. routine; not letting comfort dull ambition.
  • Running a small business, managing a team, paying people, and personal stress.

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5. Nostalgic Job Stories & The Grim Reality of Warehouse Life

• Deante’ and Big Cat reminisce on first jobs — clothing stores, fast food (Crystals), and warehouse gigs (59:00–77:06).
  • Real talk on the despair and drudgery of warehouse work: long shifts, repetitive tasks, no music allowed, feeling “trapped.”
  • "Four, turn into a seven quick in the warehouse... Ready to risk it all in the warehouse, just because you're bored?” (73:32)
  • The dignity in labor but also its limitations—“Work ethic is everything,” but these jobs showed them the need to break out and dream big.
  • The importance of quitting bad situations for your own sanity.

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6. Current Events: Rick Chow Trial, Anti-Blackness, and Racial Solidarity

• Rick Chow’s acquittal in the shooting of Cyrus Young is dissected, focusing on legal technicalities, failed prosecution, and racial undertones (88:09–101:20).
• Critical take on "Black-Asian solidarity": Deante’ challenges claims of conspiracy to divide communities, pointing to persistent anti-Blackness in Asian communities and lack of allyship (91:18–97:00).
  • "I never see y’all calling for solidarity until y’all done did some shit...It was such a heinous crime [George Floyd] that it's almost inhumane to turn a blind eye.” (92:09)
  • "Nobody wants solidarity until it’s time to take accountability." (93:37)
• On Black accountability:
  • "Black people hold themselves accountable all the time… The only reason y’all want to ever have accountability is so it can substantiate your racist ass mentality." (97:03)
• On cultural appropriation:
  • "All that K-pop shit is Michael Jackson rip-offs and Black R&B rip-offs. That’s all it is." (95:45)
  • "You don’t mind niggas when you can steal from a nigga, right?" (95:47)
• Takeaway: Don’t call for solidarity when it’s time to face the music for harm. Call for honest introspection and structural change.

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7. Uplifting the Community & What’s Next

• Celebration of their fanbase ("Cousins"), community support, and gratitude for listeners’ loyalty and engagement (84:21).
  • "We got the greatest fanbase, man. The fanbase is amazing. Cousins is cool." (84:21)
  • Enjoyment of live shows, seeing “cousins” at events, fans taking notes, and real-time interaction.
• Shoutouts for upcoming guests (AJ McQueen, Ray Daniels, Jamila, Lou Young, Trey Day) and future live shows in Philly and New York (109:09).
• Both express joy and gratitude for the path podcasting has provided.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

On R&B Dirty Macking:

• “Mary J. Blige got in the booth and made a song telling the look, I can love you better than her.” (09:34)
• “You get a thousand candles, a yacht at night, black sand beach, and if that’s not enough, if it start raining, I’ma ... you up all night.” (24:32)
• "You can't lose, man, on a yacht." (19:44)

On Podcast Fame:

• “To be recognized like that and not even be on camera…that’s power.” (41:19)
• “We are top five podcasts.” (39:19)

On Warehouse Jobs:

• "Ready to risk it all in the warehouse…just because you bored?" (73:40)
• "If you don't put me in a forklife, I'm a quit." (76:44)
• “This…let you into the world of adult. And not for nothing…as a 16 year old working fast food…you get a peek behind the curtain of people that has just failed at all.” (70:22)

On Racial Solidarity and Accountability:

• “Nobody wants solidarity until it’s time for them to take accountability.” (93:37)
• “…You don’t mind niggas when you can steal from a nigga, right? You don’t mind niggas when we saying Wu Tang is for the children…But when y’all making anime, the black person gotta be the blackest shade of black…” (95:47)

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Memorable Segments (with Timestamps)

• Dirty Mack breakdown: 09:00–27:00
• Joe “All the Things” lyric breakdown: 13:39–24:32
• Big Cat’s first public recognition story: 39:44–41:19
• Warehouse job struggles: 73:01–78:02
• Rick Chow/anti-Blackness discussion: 88:09–99:18
• Closing gratitude and future plans: 109:09–110:38

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Overall Tone and Language

This episode is a blend of playful nostalgia, authentic Southern real talk, cultural critique, and deep community appreciation. Deante’ and Big Cat riff conversationally, weaving personal stories, music analysis, and social commentary using humor and directness.

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Final Thoughts

Episode 151 is a love letter to old school R&B, Black working class reality, and the power of finding (and keeping) your people. Deante’ and Big Ice Cupcat’s chemistry—along with their commitment to truth-telling and culture—make this a standout episode for fans and new listeners alike.

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“We got the greatest fanbase, man…the revolution is love.” — Deante’ Kyle (85:17)

Transcript

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty soul with a dirty mouth my knee or a bit miss things things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my no rest fusion she gorgeous as I doubt my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead tell them we gonna get this money to my pockets Mor remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't gotta like a regardless baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me we like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee Flick your cigarette and let a vent yeah, we back, we back. Podcast is a special episode 151 Saturday solo. Yeah, but we got the man himself. So I'm your host, Deontay Cowboy, who's in front of the camera.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The coolest B mic in the world. Big ice cupcat

[Deontay Kyle]

the good beat Mike.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. Big cat is on camera.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm on cam, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

We here, man. Episode 151. All right, let's get this. Let's get this thing going. You know, deontaycow.com for everything. So if you look for merch, we got new merch. If you're trying to get them tour tickets. LA show June 25th, Philadelphia show June 18th. Oh, those go to the events tab. The tickets are up. Now, unfortunately, the Father's Day event with two chains in them has been canceled. Why? They just said unforeseen circumstances.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, that sucks.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, that sucks.

[Deontay Kyle]

But my dad was already coming in town, so I'm gonna just go kick it with him.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, that's cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Just go kick it with Pop.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. It's Father's Day.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, you know, come kick it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Just kick it, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Kick all you can. That's all you can do. That's it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Kick. Yeah, we going. Put some food on his belly.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get him right, man. Get my man right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. So anything you need, Merch, information, you know, slick little biographies, latest episodes, guest list.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Tour. Tour gallery full of photography, all the photos. Deontay Kyle.com. now, Deontay Deontay Kyle.com is for all the inquiries, booking and inquiries. Okay. You DM me. I'm feel like. You sure? You can shoot the shot to dm. I ain't mad at that, but I'm gonna send you to the email. Huh?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Or you can reach out to Alex at Ammines.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Huh? Put that on the screen.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

A L E X at a M B M I N D S dot com. Hey, reach out to my manager.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Plug her in, man. Hit my manager, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Alex.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you have any issues with ticket purchases, if you have any questions about the golden tickets, if you're having trouble receiving your merch. Supportyontechile.com yes, supportyonte kyle.com. that is how you're gonna get that problem handled. Swiftly, swiftly. If you DM me, if you put something in the chat, what I'm gonna say, Big Cat, go to support eontecow.com. yeah, man. 657234 eggs. That's 657-234-3447. Yeah, that's for the voicemail. If you want to leave a voicemail, we'll play some voicemails at the end of the episode. Oh, $8. That's we. It's a special week. Two. Two rounds of emails and voicemails.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

One week in one week.

[Deontay Kyle]

In one week. Now, we did do the stream on Sunday.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We did.

[Deontay Kyle]

We had some people call in 2657234 eggs or 657-234-3447. But the only way they was able to get on the call with me and Big cat exclusively, personally. $8. You got to get that $8 out your pocket.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

You ain't doing nothing with it. No, you ain't doing that with it. Nothing you looking for something to do with, huh? Now I guarantee you anywhere you go for fast food these days, it's going to be way more than $8.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Way more.

[Deontay Kyle]

We got it for cheap.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We got it, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, but we got the. We got. But we ain't got no cut on our shit.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

None.

[Deontay Kyle]

Huh? The price of the brick going to go up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, man. Make sure y' all get them LA tickets, them Philly tickets. National tour will be announced soon. We just got confirmation.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

National tour?

[Deontay Kyle]

The national Coming to America tour.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Big deontay, Kyle. Big ice cup cat.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We're.

[Deontay Kyle]

We're going national.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, we're going national.

[Deontay Kyle]

We going. We're coming everywhere. My God, we're going everywhere, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

And, and, and when, if you in Philly, come see me host the United We Heal Film Festival on Juneteenth, June 19th. And if you ain't got nothing to do on June 18th and you can't make it to the show, go to their pre game show over there at the underground arts.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Amazing, amazing venue. It's lit.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, man. I think that's all the plugs I got.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got anything, Big Cat?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, since it's canceled, can we just do a grissy next show, man?

[Deontay Kyle]

It's too. Man, no.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Why not?

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause we would have to do a lot of planning and all that is three weeks away.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm cool. You don't want to be that short notice.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No.

[Deontay Kyle]

You want to be that short. Yeah, man. I mean, it's Atlanta, but.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It is Atlanta.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think. I don't think you had anything to do with ticket sales either. I think it's just, you know, it's Father's Day.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It is.

[Deontay Kyle]

That could be a sensitive time for some people.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

From people. Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. So, you know, I don't. I don't know if that had anything to do with it, but I won't speculate. I just, you know, they said unforeseen circumstances, so we just going to let it be there.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

The shout out to Chains Tech. Shout out to Big Bank.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And shout out Young Halo, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, I seen some clips of Halo.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hello. Nigga can ball, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He can hoop. No, son can hoop. No, he's balling.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, no, listen.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, he's ball.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, man. Yeah, yeah, that's what. That's. That's. That's good coaching.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying, Pop. It's genetic, too.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because pops can hoop.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But, man, bro, it's where you.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, I had to learn. I remember I was on AAU team in seventh grade and I went to this called. Damn, bro, I can't remember the name of it. This. Back when they used to have sporting goods stores, though, when everything wasn't everywhere.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You got to a sport sporting good store.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now, dicks was the big. You know what I'm saying? The big, big dick in town.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

My God, why would they name that?

[Deontay Kyle]

We call that Richard.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, Richard Good.

[Deontay Kyle]

He. That was the. But every. You know, small towns, they got their own local jumps. So, man, I was trying to work on my handles, bro. And I was watching the and one mixtapes. That ain't gonna work. That ain't gonna do it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Nah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So they had this little DVD called Better Basketball.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Better Basketball. Better. Oh, better Basketball.

[Deontay Kyle]

White dude.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

All right.

[Deontay Kyle]

White dude, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, he can't hoop it off, but that boy got hands.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He got handles.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. And it'll come on and be like, better basketball.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh,

[Deontay Kyle]

in every chapter. It's just Teaching you different handles. So I was like. But then I was like, how the fuck I'm gonna practice this shit outside, right? And so then I practiced in my room. And then my mama cuts me off bouncing the ball.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Bouncing the ball.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. They needed a new system for that. But now, I mean, not only can you go on YouTube, but with 2Chainz money.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, you can hire NBA players.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, you can hire NBA players.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, Trey. Yo, man, show my son.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Show my son. They handle it. Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

This nigga already got all the jerseys.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

All the jerseys in the background.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. Peak dad goes right there. That's real dad.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, that's real dad. Goals, man. For sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's dad. Go for sure. For sure. Yeah, man. Shout out to them. Yeah, man. Well, big cat. Yo, man, it's not your first time on camera.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's not, but you're gonna have to get comfortable. I'm here.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're here, man. You. You got the mob.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I had the marble. I had to come off, man. You know what I'm saying? Special occasion. I had to put them all, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got two pillows. You're very comfy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm very comfy right here. I like this. This is what I like.

[Deontay Kyle]

This? This.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. All right. I can get used to this.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. I mean, I can get used to this.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, we trying to crank the Wind Down Wednesdays. More numbers up. Yeah, house music tell. Tell the people about what you got. We got.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We got Wind Down Wednesdays. I do it every Wednesday on Tik tok live from 8pm to 10pm Friday is House Music Fridays, same thing. 8:00pm to 10:00pm Man, House Music got more views than the Wind Down Wednesday.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, cuz, house music is that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, house music is that.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm going tell you where you messed up at. And where can they find you on Tik Tok?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They can find at Big Ice cupcat on Tick Tock and Big Ice cupcat on Instagram.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, it's just Big Ice Cupcake.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, man, I'm gonna tell you what you got to do. What I gotta do next week. We gotta get into the dirty back. We gotta get into your dirty.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean, but it's. It's quite. It's Quiet Storm Wind Down Wednesday.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, but that's still winding down.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Dirty Mackin. Yeah, Dirty Mackin is winding down.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let me tell you something, bro. All right? My phone didn't die. Listen, man, hold on. Let's go. Let's go through this real Quick.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

All right, let's do it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Since I ain't blocking the camera.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Let's do it, man. Dirty macking. You want me to play dirty macking on the Quiet Storm, man? I'm trying to get people to rekindle, you know what I'm saying? Trying to get people to try to get people right, man. You want me to come with the mess? You want me to come with the mess, man?

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, man, we love a dirty Mac. Listen, bro, listen. All right. Mary J. Blige got in the booth and made a song telling the look, I can love you better than her.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I can love you better than she can.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it was some good harmonies in that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It was.

[Deontay Kyle]

I can love you.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

M. You got me, my man, cuz. I can love you better than she can.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She meant it for sure. She meant it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, from the bottom of my heart. Prove it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, you got to show me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Prove it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You got to show me that you

[Deontay Kyle]

can Love me better. 1v her right now. Go find her fighter. Go fight her. 1v1 to the death. For my heart.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Nobody. Only one can come back.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, my. I'mma tell you something that ain't going down these days.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, no, not.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's a specific. Late 80s, early 90s. Throughout the 90s.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is before Internet, you could dirty Mac.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You can dirty Mac.

[Deontay Kyle]

Before Internet, you could year.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now everything is so. You got to be. You got to be polished. Anything you do can be considered cringe.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, you don't want to be male centered.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want me? Nothing.

[Deontay Kyle]

You don't want to seem desperate.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The game up now, so. The game. The game is.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean, that mean.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gotta bring it back though.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause listen, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Cause I'm a. I'm a year.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, look, I'm a year. That boy. Them boys, Jacket edge.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, yeah. I'm a year.

[Deontay Kyle]

He can't love you.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He can't love you.

[Deontay Kyle]

He can love you like I love you, baby girl, you know it's true. Hold on. How about my boy, though? Now we always, you know, bingo card, Cisco. We always bring up Cisco for the Thong song. Right? But we never bring up the contribution. Contributions by Drew Hill.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Drew Hill.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Them boys can go, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, man, you know, underrated group. Honestly, we don't talk about them enough. For sure. We love to bring up a Casey and Jojo.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

We love to bring up a 112, even a jagged Edge.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And. And. And why Jagged Edge?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Because they.

[Deontay Kyle]

They made some bops. But don't tell me we might well just get married.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Like, don't tell me that I ain't getting no younger.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, no younger, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Meet me at the altar.

[Deontay Kyle]

You might as well.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We might as well get married.

[Deontay Kyle]

And now, listen, bro, I'm gonna see what the drew hell said, all right? Hey, they give a instructions. Step one.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Step one, walk through that door. Yep.

[Deontay Kyle]

Step two, Tell him. Tell him he's not like he was before and you don't love me.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

3.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right. Come to me. No, no, no, no.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now, somebody got to see me soon, my nigga.

[Deontay Kyle]

If my girl.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Somebody got to see me.

[Deontay Kyle]

If my girl walks through that door and tell me I ain't the man I used to be and she don't love me anymore.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, listen, let me catch you in

[Deontay Kyle]

the V with this.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Catch you outside.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shoot your whole up, Kermit. What's poppin, Kermit?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Popping, Kermit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shoot your whole up. I shoot your whole up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

What you mean, man?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What else we got on there?

[Deontay Kyle]

Let me love you, Mario. Dirty Mac.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Dirty Mackin.

[Deontay Kyle]

Smooth, though.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Early 2000s.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You couldn't even tell.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You couldn't tell he was Dirty Mac.

[Deontay Kyle]

Couldn't even tell.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who else he got?

[Deontay Kyle]

Top Dirty Mac. Top Dirty Mac in song. Oh, Joe. All the things.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh. Oh, my God.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, it. We ain't monetizing this one. We're not monetizing this one, man. We don't need to monetize everything. Listen, I'm fine with not having a monetization on this one because we got to go through some of these tracks. It's an exclusive. It's Saturday.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, Saturday.

[Deontay Kyle]

We'll get the money next week.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, we'll get it.

[Deontay Kyle]

We'll get it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We'll get the money.

[Deontay Kyle]

We'll get it back.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, we'll get that.

[Deontay Kyle]

We gonna get that money back. What?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

My son.

[Deontay Kyle]

We can't get monetized. Go join that Patreon.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

$8.

[Deontay Kyle]

$8. Hold. Look, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

N. Man, what he. What he.

[Deontay Kyle]

What he Tell us this Joe was.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is nasty.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Got your luck, but I got the master key. Say, got your lock, but I got the master key.

[Deontay Kyle]

Damn. And then he came in the background.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man, he dirty backing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen to these lyrics. Kind of funny, but I don't Think

[Big Ice Cupcat]

you have to look no further.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ah, jokes. Hello.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, man, first of all, you got too much of my girl attention already.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. Cause you came here, you gotta look no further. You came in hot, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm the man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. I'm the man.

[Deontay Kyle]

And Then this late 90s dark skinned bald head.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You losing your business. Yeah, it's over with. And he can sing too.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, my God. It's over with.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's over.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, my God.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He got to play basketball.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know how to sing, bro. Listen, first of all, first of all, 90s goatee, goatee, bald head wearing leather. Your is gone. She's gone.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She's cooked.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because I'm right here and I'm ready.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He ready right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't be ready for my.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He ready. He been watching your girl for a minute.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ready for my girl?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Nah, he been watching it for a minute.

[Deontay Kyle]

He been peeping.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He been flat

[Deontay Kyle]

to do all the things your man. Tell me what kind of man. Listen.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. He's been watching. He been watching you. He been watching both of y'. All. He been watching both of y'.

[Deontay Kyle]

All.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Son, what kind of man would treat a woman so cold?

[Deontay Kyle]

We watching the lyrics. Look how he come in with the la la la la. Not only are you dir, you tricking. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And he tricking. He tricking.

[Deontay Kyle]

Make love on a beach of jet black sand. That's where get her.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because the average yeah. Ain't never even know that exist.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They didn't even know we had black.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'mma tell you, you know what I'm saying? She ain't even know they had black

[Big Ice Cupcat]

N Now he get out there, it's over.

[Deontay Kyle]

So, so, so when she lead a conversation, she like, hold on, did this say black? Black sand at this time. She can't even Google it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, she can't google it.

[Deontay Kyle]

She got to go inside. She got to go.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, she got to go see it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So what's that place you talking about? You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Take me there now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, take me there right now. It's over with. If she gets to the black sand.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, man, it's done.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's done.

[Deontay Kyle]

When he say the flight is booked, it's over with. Now I'm taking to the black sand. I'm taking this girl to the black

[Big Ice Cupcat]

sand, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Huh? Black sand sound like a metal girl.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, that's a good metal. I mean, that's a good. Yeah, the whites. Whites gotta come back.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ladies and gentlemen, we are black. Black sand. All our is dirty Mac.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This dirty mechanism.

[Deontay Kyle]

We just making metal versions of the dirty mechanic.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Step one, step one walked out that door. Love on a beach of jet black sand. Outside in the rain. We can do it all night. I'll touch all the places. That's your problem.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

How you know? How you know you're not touching.

[Deontay Kyle]

Why you not touching your girl?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Why you ain't touching your girl in them places?

[Deontay Kyle]

See, see this the thing? Joe was reading a lot of fanfic rom com. You know he was a Zane.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, he was a Zane.

[Deontay Kyle]

He describing all these one off.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Outside in the rain.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Outside in the rain.

[Deontay Kyle]

Come on, man. Black sand, black all these Audi's. All this out of a book.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Out of a books out of his aim book.

[Deontay Kyle]

Selling the girl a dream.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Selling her a dream.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. He trying to get.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna keep it real. Look Joe in his eyes and tell me he ain't hit. Slap somebody.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, no, Joe. Look at Joe, Joe, Joe. A real sir.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's a Tyler Perry villain. Prototypical, prototypical. A prototypical.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Nah, nah, promises. The nigga made his with G unit, so he has. He got me ill. He a gangster nigga, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just saying.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Made his with 50 sons.

[Deontay Kyle]

You can't tell my girl. I'm gonna take you to places he would not, huh?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Something that he didn't even know about.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He don't even know that.

[Deontay Kyle]

He ain't even know they'll get you high.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, he didn't know that.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is the dirtiest of all.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'd be reading the Kamasu. Yeah, he been reading the Kama Sutra, son. He know what to do, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Keep his nose in the book. Yeah, you know? Yeah, you know.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, he's studying. Yeah, he's a freaky son. Yeah, he's studying.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. I'm telling you, that Zane book could do it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, the same book gets you run

[Deontay Kyle]

across the same book or two in my.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh man, I read a couple Zane books, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, I'll be bored. I done exhausted my library.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

See what she got in there?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, it was. It was a girl in 10th grade reading Zane. But I can say, what are you reading?

[Deontay Kyle]

This be the girls that be having the boyfriend picking them up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. I was like, what are you reading?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, her boyfriend got a car.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's graduating. No, he, he's in the streets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. His Street.

[Deontay Kyle]

I graduated was a stretch.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he in the streets. Yeah, yeah. She read Zane books, big boy. Yeah. She's getting ideas.

[Deontay Kyle]

You can't read his aim book on your stomach. As a man, Baby, I wanna do all of the things you meant for me. Do things. You make a little thing, I'll do things for you. Yeah. I'll take you out on a night cruise. On a yacht.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You cannot lose. You can't lose, man. On the yacht.

[Deontay Kyle]

You can't lose with this.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Can't lose, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Which I don't understand that's happening right now is this is typically how the patreons go, right?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Right? This is how patreons.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We give it up a little bit more.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, but it. It's a special Saturday.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a special Friday. Saturday. Drop.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

We got Big Cat on camera.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm on camera, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

A little light interview with Big Cat in a minute, but we gonna. We gonna work our way into it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause we. Cause when you fucking with Grayson X, you just can't lose. One, two. What you gonna do? What good is a diamond Nobody can see? I really got you all locked down But I got the master key Hey. I light up thousand candles all around show me to the. Me to the subway I go down, son I ain't going to lie Yo, L. No pause, got me. I'm going it. I love to see.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I ain't never seen that before.

[Deontay Kyle]

I never seen a thousand kids and I ain't never seen blacks I ain't

[Big Ice Cupcat]

never been on the yacht.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't never been on the yacht at night. And I done lost a lot.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, yo. Oh, my God.

[Deontay Kyle]

We gotta let that bridge come in.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I wrote it from the bottom to the top. Nothing is forbidden when we turn, Baby. All right, I think we're gonna get to the bridge.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Let's see.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right here. Is this the bridge?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Turn it up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's do it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Carlos Santana.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't even know how to identify that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Just imagine. Just imagine on the yacht at night and you sit in the. In the. In the moonlight playing the goddamn guitar. Like this, son. I mean, with a mean stick in his mouth, playing this. You were home to yacht at night. Yeah. On the black sand this. This thing come out the mist. God damn, Nick.

[Deontay Kyle]

I wouldn't let the drink. I'm young. Thank God.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What's the budget for this date. What's the budget?

[Deontay Kyle]

Limited.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What's the budget for this date, sir?

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a G unit budget.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got to get sign.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, we got that money. We got that money. And this is way before G unit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

He was killing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He was killing. Yeah, Joe was killing it, man. Joe singing son.

[Deontay Kyle]

Joe. Joe. He meant that Joe seen. He seen some.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

He said he seen a girl out with her. He's like, I know that. Ain't treating her.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, look what I can do, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Watch this, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Look what I can do. So.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, you just don't even know I got it. You heard the banjo in the background? That's a Colombian. Colombian. I gotta take you down there. Oh, let's go, Joe.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Let's go.

[Deontay Kyle]

There ain't a damn thing that I won't do I'll make your body cream with my sex machine I won't stop until I hear mother scream. All right. The sick. He's a sick.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's enough, son. He won't stop to hear your mother scream. What.

[Deontay Kyle]

What type of move. What are you doing? What type of moves you putting me in?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What kind of sorceries this my like. What you doing?

[Deontay Kyle]

I make your body cream with my sex.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's a sex.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He's a sex machine, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

He one of the few. He started the bottom work his way up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That Joe man sick. He. He aims to please.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Goddamn. He's pleasing. God damn, he's pleasing.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm just saying there's a lot of promises.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You with Joe. You get a thousand candles?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

All around.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

All around.

[Deontay Kyle]

A yacht.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

A yacht. At night.

[Deontay Kyle]

At night.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

At night, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

At a beach.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

At a beach.

[Deontay Kyle]

What's got. What that beach got?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Black sand.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, my God. And if that's not enough, if it

[Big Ice Cupcat]

start raining, Oh, I' ma you up all night.

[Deontay Kyle]

All night. I'm gonna make your body cream with this express. And I won't stop until I hear your mother scream. Now what she got to do with

[Big Ice Cupcat]

how she get in this? Our mom dude's getting this, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because I want your. And the one you came out of.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, Lord, that Joe was a sick son.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. You can stay away from me.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He's a greedy. He's a greedy. Why you want all that?

[Deontay Kyle]

You know. Hey, yeah, man. Shout out to Dirty Mac.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, Dirty Mac, man. Get your.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, you go home and light a hundred candles. Start somewhere.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, start somewhere.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got the. Your girl right now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Can't afford a th00.0.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, you know, we work your way up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get 10.

[Deontay Kyle]

Take your girl on a cruise.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's a fire hazard.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. Not, you know, apartment. Do the square footage.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, square footage of the apartment.

[Deontay Kyle]

Square footage.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Maybe 10 to 5 candles is good.

[Deontay Kyle]

5 to 10 might be right. 100 might be too much. Yeah, you go like thousand is crazy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You going to have the whole unit homeless, cuz.

[Deontay Kyle]

You trying to be freaky. You trying to make some body.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. With the sex machine. Now we home homeless now. Cause you don't set the whole goddamn on fire, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

You don't this girl out of a house at home.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Where we go go now.

[Deontay Kyle]

I want that dick.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No more homeless.

[Deontay Kyle]

Last time I. You. I lost everything. I lost everything. God damn. Shout out to Joe Sick Nick. All right. They got the best nine Dirty Mac love songs of all time.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Vi magazine. Okay.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay. You know, LL had to be on there.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, man. Listen, man. Yo, first picture. Ll Sharon ice cream cone.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I ain't gonna lie. That's like some. I do.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Deontay Kyle]

LL and someone else's girl turning down reasonably large on hey, lover.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, he lover was a good Dirty Megan song.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay? So you don't have to hurt no more condition. That's number nine. He can't love you jacket number eight.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay. Oh, I can love you. Look him. That's number seven, though.

[Deontay Kyle]

Understand? You gotta understand Wish that you could be my man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. Because I can love you better than man.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's a heart, you know what I'm saying? Every now and then, you know, the. The appreciation. The appreciation I have for music. Sometimes it might just be a little part in that song, man, that really just get.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That get you going. They get you, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, you know, I was listening to today. What Spider System of doubt. It was just. It was doing it for me today.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

In my head, you know, I was in my head a lot. This is for me right now. This is me.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. He wrote this for me. Yeah. You know what I'm going through right now?

[Deontay Kyle]

All right. Number seven. I can love you. Look, Kim, verse. It was a nice verse.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She. She made up a bike. They ain't even. They don't even exist. Dipping on your ninja Honda. Honda don't even make ninjas.

[Deontay Kyle]

Collabing before the collab. She brought the.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She brought. Yo, yo, Ninja Honda. Yo.

[Deontay Kyle]

Tanisha and Rhonda and that's all. She wasn't even bald.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Joe didn't have no.

[Deontay Kyle]

Joe had hair.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He had hair.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, it's over with. Oh, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, yeah. It's done.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He had.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's a classic 90s, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, that's it. Joe.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to Joe, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Joe had a head full of hair and a goatee, son. It's over with, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, bro, having a goatee in the night. Goaded.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Goaded you.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, you getting anything you want.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, yeah. It's it.

[Deontay Kyle]

They can put you on the front of them. All right, number five, Sensitivity by Ralph.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't never heard.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You never heard Sensitivity? Yeah. You know who Ralph is? You know Raph is from New Edition.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, okay. I probably have heard the song.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, number four. Mario. Mario.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. He looks crazy in that picture. He looks nuts.

[Deontay Kyle]

He cut the braids off and showed you his grown man time.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He had no beard, no. No stash, no way, no nothing.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just a dark Caesar like Pookie from

[Big Ice Cupcat]

New Jack right here, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look at this, look at that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Look at this. Now you got Trisha. Got it. Has to put that on camera.

[Deontay Kyle]

He looks sick.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He looks nuts. Send that picture to Trisha, please. Yes. He looks crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, number three. Hey, lover.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

LL Cool J featuring Boys to Men. Bring a boys to Men in.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You can sing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

In Marvin's room. Oh, yeah. That wasn't.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That was a. Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But that was even weirder because it was a little. It was. It was a drunk.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. It got a dark.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's true dirty, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's true dirty.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was. That was. I'm throwing everything out the window. I'm not even trying to sell you no dream.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I hate the fact that you with this. And I hate him.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I hate him.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. And I hate myself.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And I'm drunk and I'm drunk as a. Right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm just saying you can do better.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Tell me have you heard that lately? Saving all my love for you oh, man. Whitney Houston. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She was dirty, Mac.

[Deontay Kyle]

The girls was dirty, man. Yeah, the girls. I'm tell you something about your. She ain't got nothing on me.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I can love you better yeah. It's not a dirty maca song, but Adina Howard was just straightforward. I want to get a free call through the day in the early morning. Just imagine a BMW full of bat pull up beside you. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'mma tell you I'm going show you this song. I'm gonna show you this that my mama used to play in the car. That I knew.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Huh?

[Deontay Kyle]

I knew. Oh, her and my dad definitely. No, they're going through. They're not gonna make it. No, this one I knew they weren't gonna make it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, my God. Not this.

[Deontay Kyle]

This I knew, like. Oh, this over?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, it's over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When she backed this out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. When you back? This morning.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, my God.

[Deontay Kyle]

And we slept the night. I don't know if I'm tripping or not, but Kelly look good as right here.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Look all right right there Now. Kelly look good.

[Deontay Kyle]

I never seen her before. And that's a natural silk press.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, that's just natural.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ain't no perm, baby. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Look good right there. Ain't gonna lie. It's morning.

[Deontay Kyle]

My mom used to be singing this while we driving, so.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

My mama had a. A forest green Pathfinder.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, Mama was moving through traffic with the.

[Deontay Kyle]

With the. With the peanut butter se.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, that's a nice car.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a nice whip.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's a nice car.

[Deontay Kyle]

And she was pushing that Pathfinder. Oh, my God.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Green.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, that bar. Y' all both wrong. How you even explain not coming home?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Sleeping the night away with somebody else.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Somebody else.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bro, we both wrong.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You up? I up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, I'mma tell you something.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Bam.

[Deontay Kyle]

And is that to say goodbye? I was like, yeah, they ain't going to make.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

She was singing this with a little too much fervor, a little too much passion.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. My mom put on that. When the woman's fed up, I said, oh. I said, oh, I don't know what pops done did.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, my God.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She back that chaos out.

[Deontay Kyle]

When the woman sped up, I said, oh, my God. Hey, listen. No truer words were spoken.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That knew. He. He didn't. He done up a few times.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

A lot of times. God damn. How many times have you up?

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta be mindful of a bringing a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. Rest in piss. R. Kelly.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

We're not separating. No, it's kills out.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They said it again. The barbershop with an ankle money. Though sussing that is AI. So this can't be chaos. But it looked like chaos under the chair, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I said this thing out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, yo, listen, as. As he got closer to his sentencing, he was just getting sicker by the day.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, man, he was. He was throwing up every day.

[Deontay Kyle]

So he was getting sick and this. Had a cigar in his mouth this size one time.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was like, what the. This got going on? A villain.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He. Wow.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. He's all catching up to him. That said, when you say young. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

When you say young.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ah, man, we already.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We already knew. When you say young, what you mean?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Tor was like, huh? Huh? What? You don't want to answer that a different way?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's how you want to answer that?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Wait, what are you talking about right now?

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. When you say young, like, what?

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I pulled the blink out on him.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It'll turn into a joker.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. All right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, any last words?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Before we shoot this, execute this on camera right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got a loaded pistol? Right now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Execute our killer.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you in the Cook county jail right now. You see this, Kels.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Go hit that with a Glock dookie.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Knock him out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Knock him out.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Spitting his butt, spitting his ass. Hit that with the Glocky. Knock about this. Spitting his ass is crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Y'. All. Chicago gotta stay out of.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yo, Chicago is ill. Y' all

[Deontay Kyle]

getting a little too creative.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, in the.

[Deontay Kyle]

In the prison.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, it's ill, son. Because who. Who thought of that?

[Deontay Kyle]

Waking up with a wet ass.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, who thought of that?

[Deontay Kyle]

Not only did I get knocked out,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

somebody spitted my ass.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not even sexual.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No. It's just. They hate you. Yeah. Yeah. I own this.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. This is my.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I spin his ass.

[Deontay Kyle]

What? Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's nasty work. Why. Why y' all doing that to each other, son?

[Deontay Kyle]

Who even thought.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

The was beating him up and mouth started watering.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yo, what make you go to beat a up? He knocked out to want to spin his butt.

[Deontay Kyle]

He might have fell his pants. Felt that seeing his ass and was like, yeah, spitting that. Spread his chee.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yo, who's helping with this? Who's helping?

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't gonna lie. In the. In the. In the. In the land of pause.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's some taking too far.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because even when you go to rob a. Like, I understand humiliating. It's like, yeah, get butt naked.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Well, I gotta get butt naked.

[Deontay Kyle]

Come on, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But come on.

[Deontay Kyle]

Come on.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You're already taking my money. And why I gotta get butt naked?

[Deontay Kyle]

Son, we seen how this played out, right? And belly.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, B. R, B, you gonna get yours, B.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He made a. He made a. Get butt to sit down. Sit back down.

[Deontay Kyle]

In his grandma.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

In his grandma's house.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's his crib.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Let off a shot. Let off a shot. Disrespectful, cuz.

[Deontay Kyle]

You let off shots in my granny.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

In my granny House. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Then he made me get naked in my granny house. And you even let me get the dignity of taking my pants all the way off.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Now you just see the ankles seem

[Deontay Kyle]

like you been taking.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He said, get blood naked, you go get yours, B.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's like, yeah, all right, B. You going to get yours, B. That sin almost got smoked behind that. All he did was laugh.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, he just laughed.

[Deontay Kyle]

He just couldn't find time. Yeah, he couldn't find time. First of all, too. First of all, a. First of all, a.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

A is a shisty. So he seen the c to I'm about to blow, dog.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right? Now, realistically, you know, if I'm going shoot him any bell is that he had his baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't got time for this foolishness.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause he's seen come across the street. Yeah, yeah. He's seen coming.

[Deontay Kyle]

He also seen who it was.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ass, right?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. This.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's seen the play.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

He could at least say, yo. Yeah, watch them right there.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yes. Now he got the hell on.

[Deontay Kyle]

He was like that. Yeah, not my problem. I gotta get this baby home.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. I gotta get this baby home to him.

[Deontay Kyle]

And that was exit state, right? That was out of this.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And they had one line. And I'm going.

[Deontay Kyle]

He literally had one line.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

One line gone.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm f to blow down.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm about to blow down.

[Deontay Kyle]

They ain't even have to write it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Do what you do. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

What would you do in this situation?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got a baby. And action. Action.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

All right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Y. I'm f to blow down.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

All right. Gotta get the baby up out of there.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get the baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I can't play. I can't think of shooting. I can't. Yeah, come on.

[Deontay Kyle]

I would you want from me?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Anything can happen.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm being gangster any other day.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right now I gotta be a dad.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I got the baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Come on, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I gotta be a dad.

[Deontay Kyle]

I got.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I gotta be a dad.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're trying to get to Africa. I'm just trying to get back to.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm trying to get. I'm trying to get on the block.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. I'm not trying to hit mama.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a new baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She.

[Deontay Kyle]

She doing a lot by trusting me outside with this. Outside.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

1999 in New York. In front of the barber shop in New York City.

[Deontay Kyle]

And with an infant.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's a lot of going on right here.

[Deontay Kyle]

I can't help you in the sho.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I gotta go home.

[Deontay Kyle]

But the barber.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Solid. The Barber was a solid, solid. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Came out to the bar, came out

[Big Ice Cupcat]

busting, took the pistol.

[Deontay Kyle]

Swap the pistol.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gave him a clean job, make sure he was good.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. Give me that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get back to the spot.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Go to Africa.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm gonna go cut hair.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's a laid out. Ain't nobody seen. Hey, I'm sorry.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's so up, because not only did that make you strip naked, but when you went to go get your. Get back, you got murk, you got merc work.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, I mean, that's the way things.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's the way. And that's the way things go.

[Deontay Kyle]

Big K, man. What's up, man? Let's talk about it, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yo, I'm here.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's been a hell of a. It's been a hell of a run up until this point.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's been a hell of a journey, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

For sure. We all know how the story starts, but let's. Let's. Let's talk about how, you know, how this has affected your life.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

What's the day to day? Like, how do your family feel?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

How do you feel?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, I mean, it's kind of, you know, it took some used to get. It took a lot to get used to just being out. People seeing me, know who I was. You know, I mean, first. First it was just. You take Cal. Yeah. They run up on my man. This is crazy. They can start running up on me. I said, hey, yo, I almost back down at the barber. Nah, man, I'm just playing. But that's been cool, man. I ain't. I. I'm not gonna lie. I didn't expect this to be the outcome. I knew it was gonna be big, like, he was big, but I didn't expect none of this.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. We legit.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, legit.

[Deontay Kyle]

We are top five podcasts.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We are top five podcasts, man. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

In our culture and for what we want. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It might not be. It might not be on the charts. We. We on them charts, too. No. No doubt about it. But I would just say, as far as impact, conversation, cultural relevance, man, we them boys.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We are them boys, man. They know who we are, man. That's just crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Easy money.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man. It is, man. Especially when we go out, when we got a town and we still get the same love. We get in the air.

[Deontay Kyle]

That should be crazy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

What was it like when we. When I was with you, we was in the Publix. You remember that? Was that the first time that had happened.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, I think it was the first time that happened when the old girl was like, hey, Big Cat. She whispered it. Yeah, it was kind of weird. Scared the out of me. I was like, what was this?

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, it wasn't a grocery store granted.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

She's like. She did.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She whispered it, though.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, Big Cat.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, Big Cat. I was like, oh, hey, how you doing? How you doing, baby?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo, chill out. Got right into your joke.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Got right into it, baby. Nah. Yeah, but that was wild, though. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I. I just walked off.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I gotta let my boy have that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because I've been in this publix many a times and having this experience, like, I'm beloved at that publix, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because they know, like, the people that work there that recognize me now, they know, like, oh, this be in here,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

like, all the time.

[Deontay Kyle]

He a dad, you know, he got a house and got groceries.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Regular.

[Deontay Kyle]

Regular family.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. What's up, Deontay? How you doing?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, just stapling the community.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. I'm here, baby.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, you here.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm here.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is it.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's my spot.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is it.

[Deontay Kyle]

So when Shorty walked up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I said, I'm gonna let my boy have. Yeah, that's. That's a good one, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It was a good one.

[Deontay Kyle]

I watched from afar. I was proud.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Like a proud dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause this is the thing, man, to be recognized like that and not even be on camera, be on cam.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's power. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

How'd she know I was a big head, though? I could have just been another big nigga. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shorty. Shorty seen us walking together.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That gotta be him. That's him.

[Deontay Kyle]

There's no way.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yes, it's him. It's him. God damn it. It's him.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's him.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It can't be nobody else but him. How many big things his friend got? How many big friends?

[Deontay Kyle]

I will say this. Out of my three closest friends, two of you are big.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I just look like Big Cat, though. Like there's. That's Big Cat. Yeah, that's him. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It just makes sense. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, for sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

What would you say since then? You know, that being the first and then the frequency of it afterwards. What is that? How do you. How do you. How. How long did it take you to get used to it and, like, what's the feelings that come with it?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Well, you know, I'm a. I'm an introvert and an extrovert. Like I can be hot and cold. Like, I can just. I can be talking one minute and be, like, dead silent the next. You've seen this, and you've seen this in person. Well, you just. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all good. It's all good. It's all good. So. But, yeah, so it'd be kind of. You know, it'd be. It'd be hard to navigate sometimes because I got to be talkative with people, so I have to force myself to be like. Come out my shell and be like, all right, now I'm ready to talk when I'm not ready to talk. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, so that's. That's. That's been the hard thing to do, just giving people the attention that they want. You know what I'm saying? And having to talk to people. So, yeah, that's probably the hardest thing for me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. You know, unfortunately, it's, like, gotten to a point for me where it's like, all right, it's gonna be handsome. Not just even in business and not impersonal so much, but just separating the business from the personal. Even with people that's close to me and people we've been working with.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But also, like, even with how we interact with. It's hard, bro. It gotta be some strong boundaries set up. Before, I never really understood the security thing, but sometimes the security is just to keep shit moving because it's like, of course, like, you love the people. You don't want to acknowledge every person that want to acknowledge you. Right. But then you also realize, like, for some people, it ain't no reading the room. The social awareness go out the window. It's like, this is my moment. So it's like, niggas might get into their life story. Niggas might try to pitch you the whole business. Listen, right there on the spot. Might try to get you to invest in the business right there. And it's like, damn. Saying, like, I don't even know you.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, I don't know you.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying is, like, not. Not. Let's set up a Zoom meet. No, I'm gonna hit you with the pitch right now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Maybe you can help me out right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Or.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then I. I can only imagine how. Okay, I can't get to him. There go big cat.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, my God, boy. Yo, take my number down for your man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

All right, man. Just follow me on ig, though. Shoot me a dm. You know what? I'm saying it'd be a lot of that. A lot of that. Yeah. Yo, Big K, you can tell Deontay cuz about this. Can you give me the podcast? No, nigga, I can't get you on the podcast.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm sorry.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's not how it works.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's discuss that, because this ain't your first time bringing it up. Listen, what is it like. What is it like for people even that, you know, hit your phone? Like,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

listen, I had somebody hit me up and said, yo, see if you want to interview the. The queen priest of the E5. And I was like, all right, I'll get back to you. Never call A again. I ain't even come to you with that because I said, this is something that we don't even do.

[Deontay Kyle]

Why?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We just want to interview the queen Priest of the EPH movement. Like, what are we doing? If I'm gonna edit, it gotta make sense, dog.

[Deontay Kyle]

If it's gonna be anybody, it's gonna be Auntie Taj, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, it'd be Taj. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But because then what? How we gonna leave that interview?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, like how? How? Gotta sacrifice the chicken.

[Deontay Kyle]

We gotta leave it all white.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I mean? Now, now we. We came in, no baba left. Bye. Bye.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Next episode, we got a necklace.

[Deontay Kyle]

All the necklaces. Ain't even no art no more. Just candles.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Just candles lit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like Joe.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, like Joe. Black Satan everywhere.

[Deontay Kyle]

This black sand, the candles of his. No disrespect to the E. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No disrespect to E. Atlanta treat everything like it's gang.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Like it's. Like it's gang. Culture I hate is nuts.

[Deontay Kyle]

I hate them. They treat everything like it's gang.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It be dead serious.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gang.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Dead serious, too.

[Deontay Kyle]

We are getting money. You are playing gang.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Gang.

[Deontay Kyle]

What are you doing? Like the E. You don't know what is going on.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They banging with the E5.

[Deontay Kyle]

They banging.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They banging it.

[Deontay Kyle]

How about your family? How's the adjustment? Been there.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, man, my dad kind of still don't understand it. You know what I'm saying? But my mom, she fully embraces it, man. She's like, yeah, okay, this is what she gonna do.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gonna do it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, mom, dude, she, like, fully, like, invested.

[Deontay Kyle]

She's seen it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, she seen it at the meet and greet. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

She seen the love. But then she came and seen you at the show.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was impressed, man. She was impressed with both of us. Yeah, yeah. She was like, the way he talks, the Way he talks and has the crowd, she's like, I like it. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's fully invested.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh. You know, these people, they come from a different time.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

So this is not even. I can only imagine how that is too, like, for them. Yeah, yeah, cuz I can imagine. When you wasn't working no more, they

[Big Ice Cupcat]

like, all right, what's going on? What you mean you working no more? How many millions y' all niggas got? It's like, whoa.

[Deontay Kyle]

First of all, first of all, there's the.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Listen, if we had some millions, y' all be the first one to know. Trust me, my parents, y' all be the first to know. If I had some millions, if I

[Deontay Kyle]

had a cup of meal right now. Listen, listen, y', all, everybody know.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Everybody would know, but y' all definitely be the first one to know for sure. I'm coming here with.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm coming crazy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What y' all need pay with me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Y' all good house.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

How much is. I'm pulling up with two cars.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

One for you, one for her.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, for sure.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

For you. I'm saying.

[Deontay Kyle]

M's in the game.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Crazy work.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. But I'm glad we. I'm glad we don't, though, sometimes.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, it's a. It's a. I mean, I, I. You know, the thing is, it's like, it's fully actualized that we gonna be there. That's the trajectory.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But I don't, you know, I'm not in a rush. No. I'm just saying you need to be able to deal with it at every level.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

At every level.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

When they come in the game, just. Here's 10 million. Oh, my God.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. That could.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You up. Yeah, that's you.

[Deontay Kyle]

That could.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Also, you know, we independent, so, you know, we don't turn down a lot of.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. And I think for the integrity of

[Deontay Kyle]

the culture, integrity of our. Just of ourselves.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But then just like, still, you know, we gotta. We gotta remain what we are, you know, that money, it should come with a compromise.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It does.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it also comes with a lot of different hands in the pot. And it also. And we building the team out organically.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So I think, you know, to. At the success that we had, as fast as it's come, make it feel like we've been doing it a lot longer.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But, man, we just getting started, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, we only got 100 episodes left.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They're Gonna. They're gonna kill us. There would be a mob outside. Oh yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh yeah. What Publix?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What Publix?

[Deontay Kyle]

He at which one where they say they live?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Well, they gave them kids their money yet what mall they was in. Yeah, but they gonna be at every pub in the county.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, deontay be in here.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. We leave it. We leave at 250. Boy. Boy, the Internet go explode.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, they gonna burn. You know what I just thought about though? I don't think at the peak of the Joe Budden podcast, they probably wasn't making millions. Millions. No, they was probably in the. They probably high.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

100,000.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, for sure. For sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

And maybe the deal. I think the deal was for like 2 million. But you don't walk away with.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You don't walk away too many.

[Deontay Kyle]

No taxes. And then, you know, he got two get. He got two hosts, him. And then management, all that stuff.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yep.

[Deontay Kyle]

So we think like the peak of the jbp as far as. As far as me being a fan of it. They wasn't even. And they was in the three hundreds episode. Yeah, that was in like they was between the 2200 to 300 range. Right. So the fact that. The fact that we are where we are at 150, 151 now. But it's like, man, it's so much more work. And also. It is, man. Bruh, it's just been. It's been great. It is calling into. For me, like one thing that I've been thinking about a lot lately is just restructuring my day to day and just getting a new routine because I do like the chill.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You like to chill. Cause man, I mean, you've earned your leisure.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out my Ian.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out boy. Ian Dunlap. Earned my leisure. Hello, podcast, bro. Nah, man. I think that the more than anything is like. All right, so you know, in a situation like this, how do you multiply? And it's not really about. For me, it's not really about like I don't really have no interest in all that other like just making my whole life about generating and making money.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But it's like how do I bring up my quality of life? You know, the gym gonna have to be a part of that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, for sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause I done packed it on.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm heavy right now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So feel it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You can lose it.

[Deontay Kyle]

I can lose it. You can lose it. Yeah. And it's also, you know, stress. This ain't easy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm managing a lot of different persons and you know, I gotta pay a lot of people.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not a lot, but conservatively. This is a small business. This is a small business. It's like five, six heads.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It is.

[Deontay Kyle]

So it ain't just me and. You know what I'm saying? If it was just me and you, yeah. I'd be like, yeah, yeah, you gotta do it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But it is. It do come with a lot of, like, responsibility. And, like, bro, you've been here from the jump, so you've seen it grow.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

At every stage, and you didn't even came played your hand. And like, now you're doing the dj, that working good for the road. People love that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They love it. They love it.

[Deontay Kyle]

They turn you. Turn it up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Turn it up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man. Gotta get the crowd hype, man. Gotta get ignorant. Before we do the night, they go crazy, we gotta get ignorant.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then, you know, it's like, just not even, you know, we'll be having fun. We having a good time, and they having a good time. That's.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's what I care about. As long as they're having a good time. Cease is filled, drinks is flowing. Chicken tenders is getting dipped. That's all I care about, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

As long as y' all dipping them.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, baby. Cause they be eating. Y' all be eating.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, listen, I love to see they

[Big Ice Cupcat]

be eating at the show, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's going down.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Yeah. A lot of drinks, a lot of food, a lot of fried food, a lot of drinks.

[Deontay Kyle]

What's been. What would you say, like, personally, though? Like, even with not only your folks, but your son, how he be feeling about it?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I remember when he came home one day from school, I think he was like, in the 10th grade. He was like, I think you're kind of famous. I said, what you mean? He's like, every time we walking down the hall, I be hearing y' all voices on people's phone. I was like, what? He was like, yeah, I be hearing y' all voices on people's phone. Like, when I'm walking down the hall, like, I hear y'. All.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's crazy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I said, that's wild. Yeah. I said, you hear us?

[Deontay Kyle]

We are popping.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He's like, yeah. People be on Tick Tock. They'd be scrolling past like, I hear y'.

[Deontay Kyle]

All.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And then they'll scroll past about like that. That's my dad voice. Yeah, that's my daddy's friend. Yeah. I'd be like, damn, in high school.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's crazy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I was like. He said, yeah, he a Lot of time. All right, cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's real.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's real, that's real. Yeah. Shout out to my son. He just turned 17 today.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, man. Happy birthday to Zayn.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

17, okay. Yeah, that's what that was when you was texting me.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I said, God damn, it'll go down.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It'll go the bank. Listen, man, I'm surprised to make it. Call me.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'll tell you, man, they'll.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You up, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Boys. The boys started boxing yesterday. Oh, yeah, we started taekwondo.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then we got the.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

How they enjoying the boxing?

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what, man, I was a little nervous because Cohen, you know, Cohen is like, it take him a little while to adjust new things, came home, lit up like hell. Y' all like that? Yeah, yeah, Love it. Kyren, of course.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was Kyro's idea, so I know he was gonna like it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And. But Cohen seemed to really like it. And they go three days a week.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

And we do taekwondo once a week until further notice. Like, if she really take a liking to it for real, I'll put her in there twice a week.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But, yeah, man, she been enjoying it. She enjoyed today. Today was her first day, and she thought it's cool. She came home.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She came home about him with the Dragonfly Jones, huh?

[Deontay Kyle]

She a white belt right now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, she a white belt. Yeah, yeah. She gonna be black belt in no time, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, unless she got black belt, I have to watch how I talk to her.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. Everybody watch how they talk to her.

[Deontay Kyle]

We're gonna see. We're gonna see what the true martial art is.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Is it boxing or taekwondo?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, she gonna let you know,

[Deontay Kyle]

obviously, the art of distinct meaner.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Why don't you say

[Big Ice Cupcat]

shout out to Emery, man?

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out, Emory. They doing their thing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

What is it? Is it because, like, you know, still, though, we just. Dad. Yeah, we just there.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. They don't care.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He don't give a damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

You famous online. You famous online, you nigga.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I've been knowing you my whole life.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. You say you so damn famous. Yeah, let me hold something.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, let me hold something. God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

That.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That.

[Deontay Kyle]

Where? Where? Where? It's like. This is, like, crazy for me is how we came here as far as, like, establishing a real live show. Because when we did that first one in Jackson, I ain't know.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We didn't know what the hell we was doing.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't know. Didn't know not only what we was doing, but, like, is this. Is this A real thing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, can we do this live? You know what I mean? It seemed. In theory, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But, man, after I was like, yeah, we got it. That's it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And we need to do more.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You gotta do a lot more.

[Deontay Kyle]

But I think that that first leg of the tour, I said, oh, man, we can take this here.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, we can do it. We can do it.

[Deontay Kyle]

We got a legit show.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. At the rally. I felt really comfortable. At the rally Raleigh. At the rally.

[Deontay Kyle]

Raleigh was such a great first show.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then, you know what my set was, how they responded to it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

The conversation that it started, I was like, yeah, we got it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We got one.

[Deontay Kyle]

So we got that set and then we got, you know, then this is gonna bring opportunities like, you know, shout out my brother. Shout out to OG Kev on stage.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Kev on stage, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

He just ain't the deal with Tubi. So the show that we shot when we went out there, it got picked up by two.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm gonna be on Tubi. Dope. Dope. Yes, sir.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm in the 2B finally.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So that's dope. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't want to put that out publicly.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

But. Yeah, but that to be. That's gonna be a good play for creators.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, it is.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It is.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to Kevin stage, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, Kevin stage.

[Deontay Kyle]

But that's another thing, too, with Kevin on stage. Is that what he showed me? He's reinvented himself several times. The thing that's been consistent is the podcast, but that's going back thinking about the money part. You know, when you start growing and emerging in these spaces, sometimes you think it should be more. It should be more. I think about, okay, what am I going to do with what I got right now?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because when more come, I want to be able to have, well, oil machine. I want to have a great team, and I want everybody to do they thing. You know what I mean? But also, so you know, if you can't handle 100k, you can't handle a meal.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You can't handle a meal.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're gonna spin out on a meal. You can't handle it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

How fast you'll fall.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, my gosh. Because, I mean, because then you can afford all your.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Everything you want, you can afford it. Yep.

[Deontay Kyle]

So I think for me, more than anything, it's like, you know, there's an ease of being able to do what you want to do with your day, but there's also. There's also like, it's A heavy thing. Because it's like, well, what you gonna do though?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What you gonna do? What you gonna do with it?

[Deontay Kyle]

What you gonna do? Because it's like, you could. I mean, rest is fine. Yeah, chilling. But then. But then, what you gonna do about your work ethic?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

How you gonna step your game up? You know what I mean? I don't think every day got to be filled with the grind. And it's a blessing not to have to grind. Yeah, yeah, like that. But it's also like, man, you can get. You can get comfortable real quick.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Comfortable real quick. Quick.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, you're comfortable real quick.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

For sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. I was like, damn, boy. I was one time like last week, like, damn, Brian woke up before 12. I ain't used to this.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I sleeping in like a. And it's like, feel good. But then after like a week, I'm like, all right, all right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I got something to do.

[Deontay Kyle]

We gotta find.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We gotta find something to do. I need something to do.

[Deontay Kyle]

And also too. It can't always just be business that's gonna have me doing something right. Right. You know what I'm saying? I think the rest was important and I enjoyed it, but I think it's also like, building up a new routine is very important. Cause you gotta stay you. Cause you gotta give yourself new things to certain to. To reach for. Like, you can even see it. Like, I've been super chill. I ain't got no haircut, I ain't got no cut.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I ain't got no cut since the tour. I ain't got no. Cuz it's Jacksonville.

[Deontay Kyle]

You see what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I forget what the last obligation I had to be on camera was, but I ain't got a cut since then. Yeah, man, I'm chilling, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out, my brother. Cool, man. Yeah, we're gonna bring you that 50. Yeah, yeah, got that 50 hitting man waiting for you.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And also, man, we've been working since we was young men. Like, we've been working, bruh. We've been working.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't think about. Bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We've been working since we was young men.

[Deontay Kyle]

When you get your first job, High school.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I was at the mall. It's called Focus Boutique. It's a clothing store. Yeah, they had one in the head. One, actually.

[Deontay Kyle]

I remember Focus.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, they had one of five points and they had one here. Here in the mall? Yeah, Called Focus. Yeah, I was in that. Going crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Folding jeans.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Folding jeans still in J. I was. I was. I was knocking them off closing time. Oh, don't let me close. Don't let me close. And I know. I know the code to the camera.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I was fresh to death every day. Every jab, every. I was anything I want. I was fresh to death. And I had regular customers that came in. Oh, yeah, yeah. So they would come shop with. With me. Like, I had this couple from Baltimore will come in.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, and you get commission.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I get commission.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, you lit what? Come on, let's go holl at a boy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And I wasn't the type of be like, all the point, like, what she need? What she need? What you need? I like, if y' all need help, just let me know. I'm right here. You know what I'm saying? Then they'll come like, I got real cool with a lot of people in that. Yeah, I was getting commission. Nobody else was getting sales of that but me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, you was eating. I was eating.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Doing football, Selling jeans. Selling jeans.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was miss everything.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I was miss everything that sell the right space at the back, son, which I need.

[Deontay Kyle]

Come Holly.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My. My son mother at the time, she was jealous of that job. Boy, she used to hate me working at that mall.

[Deontay Kyle]

Why? Oh, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Well, she used to hate it. Yeah, yeah. Young jock. Young, dreaded up. Young, dreaded up jock.

[Deontay Kyle]

Scary sight.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Scary sight, son. Selling clothes.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm slagging them.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm telling. I'm you telling the girls, go try it on. Let me see what it look like. That's what I'm telling them.

[Deontay Kyle]

You wild.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I was wild, but they did it, though. It's like, how it look.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's a smooth.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She look good.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, Martin, great salesman.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Great sales.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, I think it look good.

[Deontay Kyle]

You try it on.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Let me see what it look like.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Get a male's perspective. You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Perfect.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Get him every time.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Get him every time, son. Hey, man, that's when I met my first cougar in the mall.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, look, bro, they don't make them like, you know, my man. I'll let you know that right now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Nah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You hear that? Yeah, it's a little buzzing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay. We're gonna work through it. Yeah, yeah. First cougar. My first cougar. Let's talk about it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, my God. Butter pecan, butter almond.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just butter.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Listen, the thing is, she came in with her daughter. Her daughter was my age, okay? I said I thought they were sisters. That's how Fine. She was.

[Deontay Kyle]

She's like, oh, you hit him with that?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, I ain't even hit it with that.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's just that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It was just that. Yeah, I'm talking to her. She's like, you flirting with me? I was like, yeah, a little bit. She's like, you know how old I am? How old are you? I'm 41. I said, you what? 41. I think I'm 18. Yeah. Yeah. I think I got a. Is that. Is that an essay? Is that an essay? I'm 18, she's 41.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a nasty look.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's a nasty look.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. But God taught me how to eat the box.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. She turned you into Joe.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, she turned me to Joe. For sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

For sure.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Turn me into Joe.

[Deontay Kyle]

You met Joe. I see.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I see the. In the back playing. Playing the guitar.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you 41 years old right now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Leave them 18 years olds alone.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Please.

[Deontay Kyle]

You in there to buy jeans.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. And you with your daughter, not trade jeans. Yeah. Not taking jeans off. I'm glad she did it, though.

[Deontay Kyle]

Move right along. Right along.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That was experience, though.

[Deontay Kyle]

So let's talk about. So my first job was Crystals.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay. I never worked fast food, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, it was a requirement that you work fast food. It was just a requirement that I get a job.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

And so my mom, when I turned. When I turned 16, when I turned 15, I worked for Big Murph over the summer, so. Detailing cars.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So 15, you know, I turned 16 in the summer, so school stopped. I turned 15. 16. During that summer, I get a job with Big Murph, but I can't do that when school start back.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And she was like, you need to get a job, man, because basically, you know, you want a lot of. I don't got a lot.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But I want you to be able to have it. But I also need you to understand, like, you know, you finna become a man. Work ethic is everything. Right, right, right. So get my first gig at Crystals, like one of her homegirls. Mother was like, district manager.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

All the Crystals in, like this area, like the. The West Georgia. Right. She gave me the gig up there, the one on Ferry Room. First thing I realized about that is like, man, people are unreasonable, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

They like, you see, like, you a grown up. Like me being a grown up now, if I go into a restaurant, a fast food drink.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm looking at a child. I know I'm looking at. Nothing this child can do is going to piss me off, right? You know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, they doing they best. And I know already, you know, it's fast food. I should know what I want.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, she already know what you want.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You get the same thing every time

[Deontay Kyle]

you come in the bar every time.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

We ain't trying new shit, right? That's what your 20s is for.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when you grown, you know what you want.

[Deontay Kyle]

You go. You get your go to. I got a taste for a Whopper. Yeah, okay. I know. I don't like the onion rings. I'm getting the fries. I know. I want a Coke. You keep it. You know what you come for.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what you want.

[Deontay Kyle]

So the thing is, is that this is, like, people was being very unreasonable. This is my first time encountering, like, dope boys outside the street. Like, oh, y' all eat food, too?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, y. Eat.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay, okay. I thought it was all hustle.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, all hustle all the time.

[Deontay Kyle]

All the time.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

All grind.

[Deontay Kyle]

This. This is what, 0607 tatted in their face?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I said, yeah, he's getting money.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, they're getting money out here.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, they pulled up, box Chevy out.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

These boys getting money, getting some. Getting. Getting some guap. Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Had a. Had a. Had a little flirty relationship with one of the line cooks. Girl.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Mexican girl, pretty as.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Her mama worked there, too. Her mama was like, you need to leave my daughter alone. I'm like, I ain't. I'm 16.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Obviously, I ain't know this girl had a husband. She was young. She was like, 18, but, you know.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

She came in one day, black eye. Oh, I'm never talking to her again. Yeah, leave that alone.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Leave it alone. For the love of God.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I want the cartel come make me into a crystal burger.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Exactly.

[Deontay Kyle]

Turn me into a sack.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then my manager was cool as from the west side, from Allen Temple.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

We used to smoke. We was kicking, you know, she taught me. She put me on to the. She put me onto the steal all the plastic wear game, Right?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Some toilet paper.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get you some plastic.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. Get you something.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get some paper plates.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. For the crib. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's how you hide it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Take it out the back door, right? All that. Good. Now, my shift manager, New York chick, fat ass. So anything she asks, I don't care

[Big Ice Cupcat]

you doing it, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

She couldn't tell me to rob the store.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. You gonna rob it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Whatever.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then this one, I realized like, fine, live a different life. Especially when it come to men. Right. So she's grown. She's like 21. So she not stunning me.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Right, right, right.

[Deontay Kyle]

But she do think it's like cute. And then I remember one day she telling me about her boyfriend. And. And I'm heartbroken, of course.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That she's telling me about it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But it is what it is, right? And she was like.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She turned into Joe.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, I ain't had your money.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, my check was like a hundred. Oh, God.

[Deontay Kyle]

I can only work on the weekend. 16.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Labor laws.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So my check like a bean. A bean. 50. I can't do nothing. I can't even afford a honey candles.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let alone a thousand.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

We ain't even thinking about no yacht.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Not at night.

[Deontay Kyle]

And I ain't even know Black sand existed.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, not back then.

[Deontay Kyle]

This time I can tell her we going to Far Rockaway Beach. She might.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She might like it.

[Deontay Kyle]

She might like.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But either way, I just remember the conversation. And she was like, yeah. She was like, you know he pissed me off. Cause he be gambling wooty woo woo. And she was like, it ain't like he ain't gonna make the money back cause of what he do. And I was like, what he do? She was like, if I tell you, you can't tell nobody. I'm like, what nigga sell drugs? She was like, nah, he's a bare knuckle fighter. I was like. I said, bitch, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I want no parts of this. I want no part. He's a bare knuckle fighter. You think Kimbo Slice. Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's what I said.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like Kimbo Slice.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's like, yeah, yeah. She was like. But he never lost.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I was like, oh, he's never lost. Yeah, no. She's probably getting kimball.

[Deontay Kyle]

She said. She said. I didn't. I don't mind that he do it because he never lose. But I hate it because it's dangerous.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Bare knuckle fighting.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You gotta be a different breeding to bare knuckle fight. A you gotta be be. You got to be at your wits end, son. You got to be. Yo, yo. That's the last resort.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is it, sir.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's all I got left.

[Deontay Kyle]

My. Tell me something right now. Bare knuckle fighting.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So just line up with a bare knuckle fight. Put the money up. Let's bare knuckle fight. Listen, bro, you only want a UFC

[Deontay Kyle]

a little pad on that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You want to bare knuckle a. Yo, you bare knuckle yo. Money's tight. Money is tight. To bare knuckle a son in the backyard. Let film it, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo, listen, yo. When she told me that a cold sweat.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I know it did. We used to watch at school.

[Deontay Kyle]

You see what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is my thing. You gotta think about this. Thinking like, I'll be back. I'm gonna go to work.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm gonna go to work.

[Deontay Kyle]

Finnigo, line it up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Going to fight club.

[Deontay Kyle]

First of all, first of all, bro, this is the type of you get into where they be like, look, man, this grown man business.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Grown. Oh, this is grown man business. You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Ain't no way around it. This is not for kids.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No.

[Deontay Kyle]

And to another thing that made me think about too. When she told me that I thought I was been to prison.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, he has been to prison.

[Deontay Kyle]

So let me, let me be cool.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

As much as I do enjoy the flirty, I'm cool.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because if that come up here looking for me, who's gonna save you?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Who's saving me?

[Deontay Kyle]

What?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is bare knuckle fighting.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm a scuba measuring cup of hot grease, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What? And run. That's all you can't do.

[Deontay Kyle]

I got no whip.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No whip. So you just on foot? Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

There's no escape. Yeah. So that was my first gig. I was like, this is. That's another thing about a job too. It just let you into the world of like adult. Yeah, it let you into the adult world. And then not for nothing, and this is not stereotyping because, you know, all hard work is valuable. But as a 16 year old, when you work in fast food, you do get to see. You do get a peek behind the curtain of people that just has just failed at all.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Just fucked up. They fucked it all up. I mean, just it up, son. I mean, God damn, I'm 16. You're 45 in this?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Flip it. Flipping.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You're not even the general manager.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, that's what I'm saying. That's the part I'm talking about. Like. Yeah, like, you need this.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You gotta have it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gotta have it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You're here every day. You full.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're a full time. You a third shifter. That's another thing too. Cause you gotta peep.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

04. You remember everything was 24 hours. 24 hours.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

McDonald's was 24 hours everything.

[Deontay Kyle]

Christmas was 24 hours.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You can leave the club, know you had something to eat.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, you good, Good. You know what I'm saying? So this the thing you gotta think I'm in there with? It's like, man, bro, you probably ex convict. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And you know, more than anything, just a career up just to the point where like. Like him having this job is making his family proud. Like, he finally getting his together.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Getting his together.

[Deontay Kyle]

Even though he's 40 something.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

He pulling up khaki Yankees and. And the white button up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

He doing his thing. You see that boy in that red hat? Calvin got a job.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Calvin got a goddamn job.

[Deontay Kyle]

Calvin got a goddamn job.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And, you know, I think for me, I was just like, damn, man, this real boy. It is like, I gotta. I might need to tighten up on these books.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. It let you. It put a fear in your heart. It put fear in your heart.

[Deontay Kyle]

So that's another thing, too. It didn't. I still chose. I still chose a dirty path.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But it's the thing, though. I was working at this place called Sugar Foods, and I'm grow. I'm 24, 25. I'm an adult, man, bruh. I'm doing the same job as a nigga. That's 50. And I said, man, if I lived the entirety of my life this day forward, I be this age and I be doing this.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's a reality check for you.

[Deontay Kyle]

I said, nah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, can't do it.

[Deontay Kyle]

I can't go out. I gotta figure something. I quit.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I said, no, I can't. It didn't make you quit, bruh.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That shouldn't make you quit.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was depressed.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That should have make you quit.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was depressed, bro. Listen, bro, them long warehouse hours.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, my God.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ah, man, this the up thing about the warehouse job. 12 hour shifts, you living, like, on. You living on a bell. You just basically, you know, you in the Bean.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That.

[Deontay Kyle]

You never would look at that. Start looking good.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Four, turn into a seven. Quick in the warehouse.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Quick.

[Deontay Kyle]

What?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Quick in the warehouse.

[Deontay Kyle]

What?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Ready to risk it all in the warehouse just because you bored?

[Deontay Kyle]

It's got to be something in the air, man. There's gotta be something in the air.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause you boys doing a hard time.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because. Because, listen, man, once you walk in the warehouse doors, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, it's depressing.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, man, you ain't leaving for 12 hours.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's a black cloud over you. 12 hours, you hurting going in.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's Hurting. Cause listen, man, you gotta be back

[Big Ice Cupcat]

for another 12 and think about what

[Deontay Kyle]

your life is, right? Think about your life.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You go in, you got you depending on where you live.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

The hour before your shift start, you need to be making your winner.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Gotta get there.

[Deontay Kyle]

So that's 13 hours of your life.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I count for the hour.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Back home it's 14 hours.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's 14 gone. Shower wind down. Yeah, that's 15 gone.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't start scrolling that phone.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, it's over with. It's over with.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't try to watch a. You gotta eat.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You gotta eat.

[Deontay Kyle]

16 hours.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, you gotta eat.

[Deontay Kyle]

The only thing you got left in that day is eight hours.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And you better go to sleep.

[Deontay Kyle]

And you gotta.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You better go to sleep.

[Deontay Kyle]

Which means that you savoring maybe two hours of your life.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yep, that's it.

[Deontay Kyle]

And you got a 10 hour shift. I mean, and some of the warehouses for the most part, warehouses be it just depend on what the job. But it be 10.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

10 hours.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. A 10 piece is tough.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Same thing every day.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I used to work tens.

[Deontay Kyle]

I used to work on foes.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But see, this is the thing about my job. When I was working in 412s, we be on four off, folks. So that was kind of.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It ain't bad, it ain't horrible. You still have a life. Yeah, but your life change every week.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cuz it's swinging.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

So it's like you don't get to. You can't just schedule, schedule.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You got to wait till you. You got to wait till you get there.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got to do the math.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, you got to do the math.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got to do the math. You got to have a calendar.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to work four days and be off three.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, it was cool that. It's all right. It was all right. You know what I'm saying? But the thing is, is that man, when you walk in that man just to know like, damn, ain't no going back now. And you got your PPE on.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Got your gloves on, got your hard hat, your vest, glasses, glass, steel toe boots.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Man might have a beard protector on.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Listen to being a bitch 12 hours like that. Oh my God.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's tough.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's tough. That's tough. Life.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to all my fathers in the warehouse right now. Just trying to, Trying to make it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Trying to. Yeah. Trying to figure it out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just trying to figure out.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Some people just had to go back to the warehouse.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. And I'mma tell you, I'm going tell you another thing about that warehouse, man. Once you get off that flow and into that forklift.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, yeah. Oh.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You feel like you super nigger.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, you super light.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Get a little brighter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you get them, you get to roll around him or you got to walk. Your feet don't hurt as much. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And two, you ain't just stuck doing the same. That was the thing for me. I tell them, like, look, bro, I'm. I'm. I'm. My work ethic is crazy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm dependable. I'm gonna be on time. I can't work on the line.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I can't keep doing this. I can't.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you don't put me in a fort lift, I'm a quit.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm telling you, I'm going.

[Deontay Kyle]

And I'm fort lift certified.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And, you know, put me on a test run. Oh, we just ain't got nothing right now. All right? I'm gone.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause I. Either that or y' all gonna have my brains on that assembly line.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. You already end it all, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because it can't be this.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Get dark.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man. That. Oh, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Dark.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then, like, the thing is, too nothing about the warehouse. You can't listen to music.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You can't do.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now, you just in that.

[Deontay Kyle]

They got the eyes in the sky.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Are they watching you? They watching everything you do, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Come on, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. It's a tough life.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's only so many piss breaks you could take. Yep. It's tough, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's tough.

[Deontay Kyle]

Especially with a. Like, me with adhd. Oh, man, are you everywhere.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You everywhere. You all over the floor. Somebody get this back to his station, please.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? I'm a chatty.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm always out of. Out of or.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, you out of bounds. You know where you gotta bound.

[Deontay Kyle]

Damn. You doing over there on the line, man?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You don't pack.

[Deontay Kyle]

He don't pack. No, you don't pack, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You don't put the bubbles in the box.

[Deontay Kyle]

You don't do that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You don't do that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get back to the shrink.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is what you do.

[Deontay Kyle]

You stack pallets.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You stack pallets.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, not for long, B. Yeah, I'm out of here, son.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's my last day.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Hey, look, I just quit abruptly. I did an Irish goodbye. Hey.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What?

[Deontay Kyle]

What? I swear to God. At a job.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I did that before, too, boy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, listen, listen. Bro. So they didn't want to hire me on permanent. And the dude wanted to. And he was like, we just don't have any permanent positions right now, but we don't want to send you back to the temp agency. Right. So he was like, look, I need. For two weeks, I need you to work the bread line while I work this shit out. Now. This is the bread line. They roll you a stack. Cause they making croutons.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. So they roll you a stack. They roll you a 12 high stack of stack of bread.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Bread, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Each cart got like X amount of lows on it, right? And all you do, you. You take it and then you push in the bread down the conveyor. But you got to put it a certain way because it's got blades. They got. That's it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's it.

[Deontay Kyle]

So even though it's simple.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, my.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's just tedious work.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, my God. I wanted to hurt myself.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Well, this can't be life.

[Deontay Kyle]

This.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is life.

[Deontay Kyle]

I get it, man. Yeah, I get it. Need croutons.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, if we're gonna use AI for anything, we're gonna use a robot.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's the job.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the job. Yeah, man. Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

What the you making art for? You don't need no. No need no art. No, we don't need a flyer.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We don't need that.

[Deontay Kyle]

We.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, we need you to work.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah. Can. We need some sweat equity.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just got that robot. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Push that bread.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Push that bread. I'm saying all them up, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

All that. Yeah, all that. All them down, son. So that. Work the bread.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, man, you talk about no breaks, no nothing D this. They gonna run out of bread.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, that's a good job. That's a good job.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's a great job for a robot.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not for me.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, not for us.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, brother Stack was here and I was like. I was like, I hate. I. I hate this. I. I wanna. I can't do this. And then I was just like, man, Deanna just gonna have to understand, like, she just gonna have to get it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She understand. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just left. Yeah, I just left.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. I can't do this.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then, you know, I'm working a night shift at this time. So I go in at 8, get off at like 6.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

And so I get home like 12.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She's like, what the hell you doing?

[Deontay Kyle]

She's like, what's up? You straight? She's like, what y' All. They let y' all off her. I was like, I quit.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I can't do that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I can't do this here.

[Deontay Kyle]

She was like, all right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

She's like, I know you're gonna figure it out.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You're gonna figure it out.

[Deontay Kyle]

She was like, yeah. She's like, I mean, I'm. You know, I'm tired of. Yes. Walk around this looking sad. Yeah, I know you hate that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

She said most jobs, when you come home, she said, every time you get a job, you come home, you telling me all about job.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You ain't never said about nothing about the job.

[Deontay Kyle]

She said, you ain't never said about this. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know you hate that much. Yeah. Yeah. He ain't got nothing to say. This ain't got nothing to say about the.

[Deontay Kyle]

No excitement.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, he hates this. Yeah. I got to check on this.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get up out of that, I. Get up out of that, I think. Oh, man, let's. Let's tap in with our boy real quick.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Who, who, who, who we rocking with?

[Deontay Kyle]

Chatty Patty. It's not Harlem. This is not very Harlem.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's not Harlem.

[Deontay Kyle]

I like those pants, though.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. I like the fit. The fit is all right.

[Deontay Kyle]

He said they fras bur I think Drake can handle Kendall Kendrick, but I think he'll just. I mean, Jay's like. He's an old man. Like, the other day,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

the dude.

[Deontay Kyle]

This dude came in here and he acted inappropriately, but he was 80, and I had to tell him. I'm like, Bro, 40 years ago, I would have had to you up. But you're 80, so it's like. It's almost gonna be, like, abusive for Drake to punish this like, that. That. It's basically based on what I just saw. He needs to go to, like. Like, he needs to get back in rap rockstar shape. He don't got the breath. Like, he used to pause. Like, not even. He wasn't that. You know, I. I think I'm curious to see what Drake's going to do. I think it's going to be interesting. I'm sure. I'm curious to see what Nicki Minaj is going to do. These are all people that actually can rap these days. They can still rap. I know for sure Big Daddy Kane will kill Jay White. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Dave just got to shut the up. He got to stop this.

[Deontay Kyle]

He got to stop.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Every time he do an interview, it's about Jay. Every time he do an interview, teeth

[Deontay Kyle]

is tumbling out of their mouth. Yo, he. He Knew. Jay knew when he did that, he's like, oh, yeah, this be doing an interview. By the end of the week, he already knew. I'm going to keep it real. I never seen CEO in the streets.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No. Niggas not wearing it. Niggas not wearing CEO on the streets.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, 20 years.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He's been had this brand for a long time. I don't know how it's still afloat.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a V20. You saw once. They said that came with it. No dissing nobody, no nothing. Just still, Big Daddy came. Jake can't do that no more. And then I know, like, I. I felt like. And I don't know if it was AI son, but when I saw when he actually said the rhyme, I saw people booing. I. I didn't see this crowd go crazy like it was a mic drop. I think people were like, the teeth got. I got doctor. I can guarantee you my teeth are better than Jay's. And then. All right, I can't. I can't listen.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I can't listen to hating.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, he just hating. Just fucking hating, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. I can't listen to hating on.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. All day.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's all I do appreciate, man. Big Cat, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Appreciate you being on this road with me, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man, I wouldn't, you know, we.

[Deontay Kyle]

We getting started, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man. You called me one day, said, hey, man, I'm. I'm doing podcasting. And I said, all right, well, let's do it.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know how to interview you. I know you.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Like, we just talking. We just chilling.

[Deontay Kyle]

We just chilling. It's a chill.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's calm Saturday, y'.

[Deontay Kyle]

All.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, it's calm Saturday, man. Man, nothing crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, the thing is, it's like, I'm just, you know, man, I'm happy that this is what we get to do, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is a vibe, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It is.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? We got good. First of all, we got the greatest fan base, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The fan base is amazing. Cousins is cool, man. They cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

And they be good people. Like, smart as fuck, cool, as creative as.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Real creative. Real educated.

[Deontay Kyle]

Real, too.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, real real.

[Deontay Kyle]

They'll twerk.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And they'll teach and they'll teach you. So I'm saying duality of men.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, man. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? They shake some ass when you out there, and they'll take notes when I'm out.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, they'll do it. They taking. Yo, when I seen people taking notes at the Show. I was like, oh, no, this is. This is something else.

[Deontay Kyle]

We doing a different.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is something else.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm preaching up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, you are preaching.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, but it ain't. Yeah, but the book is the book of life.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. The book of the Negro.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, Turn the first Negro. Yeah. Chapter seven of verse 13.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

The revolution is love.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's love.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They get them going.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? They get them going because it's a real thing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

What you think? Wimby? Knicks.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, I got Knicks. Knicks.

[Deontay Kyle]

When Knicks took down first game, one.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They needed that.

[Deontay Kyle]

They needed.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They needed.

[Deontay Kyle]

They got one on the road.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They got one on the road.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now, listen, I'm gonna tell you, they need that. I'm gonna tell you what Wimby has never encountered.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What?

[Deontay Kyle]

He never encountered that New York crowd.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Nah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And not in that. He probably. He played. He played him. He played in the Garden.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Regular season.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. But right now, it's. Oh, my God. The Garden.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right now. Mom, Donnie was out there in a Jalen Brunson jersey.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Under his suit.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Suit. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

He a real New Yorker.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

New Yorker.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's a real New Yorker that was in the club singing. No letting go, no holding back.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, yeah, we got him one.

[Deontay Kyle]

New York is a utopia, right?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's like that with us with Andre Dickens.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, bro, it's not the same.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He. He's everywhere, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

Andre not passing them bills, though.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, he ain't passing the bills.

[Deontay Kyle]

Andre ain't making life better for niggas.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, he ain't.

[Deontay Kyle]

He be everywhere. He be. Andre just a. He just be outside.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, he went to maze.

[Deontay Kyle]

He went out. He be outside. Outside was outside with me.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No. Yeah. He was at the rooftop joint. Like, what you doing?

[Deontay Kyle]

You doing at the rooftop?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Supp. Be passing, but bills.

[Deontay Kyle]

He got mad at me. He wasn't mad at me, but jokingly, I was like. I. I was. You know, they had brought me on stage, you know, to honor me, and it was lit, and I had a couple drinks, and I was like, yeah, man, and if you want to see me run for mayor against Andre.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's like, hey, man, get off the stage, man. Come holler at me, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And he helped me, so he was like this. You know, I'm a big fan of the show, man. I love everything you're doing, man. He ain't running against me for the man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. You're a tall. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, stop. Cop city, though, for real.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You gotta do that.

[Deontay Kyle]

We in the forest, man. You got these down cut. The underrated quality about Atlanta is that don't realize is that we're in the middle of a forest.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We're in the rainforest, my.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Yo, It's a rainforest of the south.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got these cutting down too many trees, Andre.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, Atlanta's a cool place. It's cool. You know what I'm saying? Got a shade around this motherfucker.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a lot of shade of shade. You can go on a hike.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You can go on a hike.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got a hike in the middle of the city.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of kudzu around this. I'm saying if you don't know what kudzu is, look it up.

[Deontay Kyle]

So a lot of kudzu.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man. A lot of kudzu out here, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't play around, man. Don't that up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man. Atlanta looks like no other place in

[Deontay Kyle]

the world when you look at Atlanta from the sky. Like a forest.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man. You just. You just see downtown and forest.

[Deontay Kyle]

And we can't let these cut down the forest. For the police.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

For the police.

[Deontay Kyle]

The police. Speaking of the police. Okay, in. In law, Rick Chow was acquitted in the murder of Cyrus Young. Cyrus.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man. Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Unfortunately, this is a song that we've sung before.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We have.

[Deontay Kyle]

I want to know what the fuck the jury was doing. But more than anything, I want to know what that defense was doing. Because as I understand it, the charge that they was charging them with would mean that it would have had to have been premeditated. I don't think they went for second degree. I think they went for capital murder.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Capital murder.

[Deontay Kyle]

And if it's not premeditated, that's what they got to go based on the charge. Right. But then also the defense asked for no lesser charges. That's fishy to me. That is fishy because normally if it was a they to charge you with men, everything they had to throw it

[Big Ice Cupcat]

a whole something to make it stick

[Deontay Kyle]

to see what's going on. To stick.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cuz normally it's in and in the. In the charge of murder in the first degree, not guilty. In the charge of murder, second degree guilty. In charge of manslaughter, guilty. We would have seen something like that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was no less than charges. So that's the defense was shaky for.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

The jury, I guess, according to what he was charged with, and being in the bounds of law, they made the right verdict. Because it's gonna be hard to prove that it was premeditated if it all happened rapidly. I think that's more of a second degree murder is what happened. Right. But with all that evidence, it's like, man, I mean. Cause they didn't beat it off. Self defense. It wasn't no sense.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No self defense.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then now we find out that the boy did have a gun. But that's still.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He had a gun.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's what they saying. I don't know. When. When I was looking at the jury, they were saying they didn't have. He didn't have no gun. And the speculation is that really the son is the one that shot him. Right. And the dad ate the charge and then the gun was. They. They speculating that the gun was planted on him.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

But it's all speculation.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So. But I don't even think him having that because it's like if he had a gun and he was this dangerous criminal, he would have up there firing him.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. But he put the water back and without the store and they chased him.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. And. And like, here's another thing too. I don't need to know what the circumstances are. Right. I don't win in stores before and just been like, man, yeah, I don't need it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Put it back.

[Deontay Kyle]

And black people don't. Shouldn't have to live by the standard, like, oh, you can't leave out the store without purchasing something. All look, all that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

If I don't want to purchase, I

[Deontay Kyle]

don't want to purchase it. That's my right. That's my right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And me being in your store shouldn't be suspicious if you ain't racist.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

And you know, so the. The chatter around this shit right now is the Asians are saying this is a conspiracy to get to cause a divide between the black and the Asian community. And I would like to know where is this so called unity?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. What are you.

[Deontay Kyle]

That they're dividing?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause we could call, I mean, Latasha Harden, same situation facts. And then y' all get real bold. You know, there's been some bold Asians on here. Like, y' all think we need these businesses. Y' all trying to boycott us. Y' all think we need y' all money.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay, okay, okay, all right, okay, all right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now he said we are in white neighborhoods and we have our own businesses and our own. Okay, all right. I think it's very funny to call it a conspiracy instead of Just taking accountability and just being honest about the racism and anti blackness that exists not only in your culture, but in your community.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Facts.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then I never hear Asians talking about solidarity until we start talking about y' all racism and anti blackness.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I never see y' all calling for solidarity until y' all done did some. And then is trying to hold y', all, not even trying, is holding y' all accountable for the actions of y' all community. Because it's not about it just being a one off situation. This is a part of y' all culture, and this is a part of y' all communities. And we want y' all to address that honestly and earnestly. And y' all want to say, oh, you know, in a time like this, we need solidarity. I didn't see no Asians speaking up for Trayvon. I didn't see no agents speaking up for Mike Brown. Nope. I didn't see the overwhelming Asian population in support of George Floyd.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Nope.

[Deontay Kyle]

And I'll say this. There were Asians supporting George Floyd. But I say this, that George Floyd shit brought everybody out. The globe came out for George Floyd. And, and. And the thing is, is that it was such a heinous crime that it's almost inhumane if you turn a blind eye to.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

So it had to be that drastic to get y' all attention. But now that this situation has happened, now it's like, oh, we, you know, there's a push to divide us. Where's the unit?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Where the unity at?

[Deontay Kyle]

There has to be a united front to divide. Yeah, yeah. It's been a long. It's been. It's been a long time since y' all was the Yellow Panthers. Trust me. Trust me. But, you know, you don't want solidarity, solidarity until it's time to take accountability.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nobody wants solidarity until it's time for them to take accountability. Because when we start talking about femicide and these men creating these heinous acts against women and murdering these women, now all these excuses when it's time to take accountability. You know what I'm saying? Same thing can be said in every group. And you know, everybody loves accountability until it's their turn. I don't want to hear this conspiracy and black people get. Shut the up. Shut your ass up. Y' all needs to be acting like some hoes, bro. The allyship doesn't exist.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It doesn't.

[Deontay Kyle]

There is no. We have no friends. Okay? And once you get comfortable with that, and it's not a. It's not an easy thing to get Comfortable for. I know you hopeful. We don't have no friends wins, bruh. Don't try to make this seem like a one off. The one off part is them chasing him down the block and killing and killing him. The racism and anti blackness is a constant. They. They. They probably reluctant, you know, you know, we talk about this for a long time. Hurry up and buy. They talked about this in the 90s. This ain't nothing new. Tanya Harden. That. That was. That was. That wasn't new. Latasha. Latasha.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I say Tanya Hart.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, my bad. I was thinking about Shirley.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, the knee. I was like, God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, the Iceman one. My bad. All right, all right. But Latasha, yeah, that was. You know, that's in the 90s. This is not new shit. So I don't want to hear this. Oh, yeah, there's a push, bruh. I would love to. I would love. I would love for that to be true. But I tell you what, it's not a push.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Nope.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's just the fact that the light is being shed on it now. And you don't like how I feel in that spotlight, but you love that K Pop spotlight. So y' all like stealing the swag? Y' all like when y' all could be in the swag, dress like us, singing like us. Cause all that K pop shit is Michael Jackson ripoffs and black R and B ripoffs.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's it.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's all it is.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's all it is.

[Deontay Kyle]

And you went. And you know when y' all stealing the swag, when awkwafina can come out with the awkwafina and the black scent and getting all the righty and then go back to being Asian. You don't mind niggas then when you can steal from a nigga, right? You don't mind niggas when you cosplay A. You don't mind niggas when we saying Wu Tang is for the children and we showing love. But when y' all making y' all anime characters, y' all, the black person gotta be the blackest shade of black with the reddish lips. Or green. Or animal.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Or an animal.

[Deontay Kyle]

Come on, bruh. Niggas ain't stupid, bro. Yeah, that's the thing. You think you could be dumbfounded and. And we not gonna pee. Like you can just play dumb. No, bro. Y' all need to be honest about this shit and how this shit play out in y' all communities. And the reason why is because there is a select few that be being honest about the shit. And they be validating our feelings about this shit because they know it's true. Like, we know it's true. True. You can't. You can't tell a. It's like, if I go outside and it's hot as outside, and you be like, man, it ain't that hot. Well, go out. Go outside.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, go see for yourself.

[Deontay Kyle]

And he's like, nah, I'm staying here.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And just deny it. I'mma deny your experience. Because I don't want to be what. I don't be wrong. I don't want to be exposed. You know, the thing is, is that we black people and the one thing we do on this show is that we'll call out our bad behavior. We call out our bad behavior all the time. For sure. Black people hold themselves accountable all the time. The only way, the only reason that y' all want to ever have accountability and hold black people accountable is so it can substantiate your racist ass mentality and your anti blackness. It substantiates it. It validates it. But when we talk about our experiences with y', all, not only personally, not only things we've seen throughout our life, but the we see in media, the we see the. The. The Rick Charles of the world. This ain't nothing new. Now y' all want to call it conspiracy. I don't even never hear y' all talk about the government like that. I'm keeping it a bit. You know, where y' all come from, that ain't even allowed. So I don't never hear. I ain't never heard Asians mention the word conspiracy so much in my life. Come on, man. You're not gonna be able to pull the wool. Y' all keep trying to pull the wool over and. And I'm telling you, bro, your wolves is running out of wool. The wolves are running out of wool. And I'm. We not going. So don't call for solidarity when it's your time to stand in that paint and take accountability not only for the actions of your community, but your culture. Cause keep it real about it being embedded in the culture.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Keep it real about the Asians in East Asia, where they don't like to go out into the sun. Where they go out in the sun. And long sleeves so they don't get darker. Keep it real.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Keep it real about where that white face paint come from in y' all dynasties and why y' all want to assimilate the whiteness. Y' all love that. And we not gonna Sit here and, and, and sit here and lie and fake the funk about this. We ain't gonna sit here and put this on that boy because that boy ain't do nothing wrong.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Nothing.

[Deontay Kyle]

He ain't deserve to die.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Nope.

[Deontay Kyle]

Even you know. And he didn't steal anything. And even if he did it, he didn't deserve it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He didn't deserve to die.

[Deontay Kyle]

Death isn't, death isn't justified for theft. There's no way you could justify death for theft. If you could do that, then all white people in America could be dead. Cuz, y' all still land, y' all still lingo, y' all still culture. Y' all stole us every goddamn thing. So I don't want to hear nothing about no death for theft or trying to justify it. Little boy did wrong. Y' all was wrong. Who lead the stove? Y' all left the store. A man left the store once he ran out the parking lot, he was off y' all property. He not y' all problem no more. Yep. Nah, you didn't get that fervor, that racism, that hatred, that, that was hate fuel that kept you chasing. Only black people can be seen as a threat. When we running away. Ain't that a nowhere? I mean, you can't, you know, any other space if you was in, if you was engaging in a war crime. Yeah, they were fleeing and you fired. If somebody, if you ran down on a to fight him and he start running away and you chased him and beat him out there, call you a bully.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You say that boy was running away from you, he wasn't a threat. Only black people can be seen as a threat when we're running away. And y' all want to act like this is a conspiracy. No, it's conspiracy on y' all part so y' all can dodge accountability out of here with that. Man, I, I, I don't really got much more. Oh, you know justice. Speaking of justice, man, did you know this Chud?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What happened, man?

[Deontay Kyle]

Chad the builder got a public defender, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I was over with a public defender. Oh, that's nasty.

[Deontay Kyle]

That boy broke.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, he broke.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. He ain't really having no money. No hanging the motion on top of him being broke. Oh, they finna evict his family, too.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They finna evict his family.

[Deontay Kyle]

So first of all, nigga living a single wife. Charlie ain't even in a double.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, he in a single.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, Chud, Chud, Chud out there trying to make it happen.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, boy, you know, fuck the play up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, that plan's backfiring quick for you, my boy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, you know, you know, you know, it's a reason. There's a reason why nobody else was doing that type of content. You can only. There's the shelf life on that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Is that of a banana.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's it, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Baby, you like to talk about chipping out a man that age like bananas.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, grand opening, grand closing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Closed as.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, they going to be all in your pocket. Yeah, we don't got time. We. We done. We done rocked out for like an hour and 45.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Really.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't even realizing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, we just been talking. Yeah. Yeah, we've been chopping it up, man. I. I say this. We'll. So we'll. We'll skip out on the voicemails.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Emails, man. We'll just be back Wednesday, man. We just want to come kick.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, just come kick it. You know what I'm saying? In front of the camera.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, like, like, like hype. You know what I'm saying? All that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

All that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Do all that stuff.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, you know, Chuck, hold your head, Char.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, you better hold your head, boy. You look. You ain't in Cook County Jail. You looking at. With. With the spitters, the doctor, the Glock dookie, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

Take a few steps back to go. You ain't got the answers, man. You ain't got the answer.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Swag. That much getting away in the world. You can't get away, baby. No, you don't get away that much. No. No, you don't get away that much.

[Deontay Kyle]

They say this. Yeah. Scott Ingram. Scott Ingram. Got all your papers here. Yeah. So what you do? You can tell me. Allegedly, you know, shouted, got down, got popped. But, you know, I picked up the gun. I know the judge, da. It's not a big deal. I'm in a meeting now. Now? Yeah. You'll be fine, Max. We'll get you out of, like, probation. Are you rap or anything? I love Pac. I love Tupac. Helped me get through grad school. I'm trying to help you. Just be honest with me. You do it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, I. I shot him.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's all we need, man. That's all we need. They're going to work with you, okay? You got nothing. Hey, Brock. What's going on? Hey, we got good and bad news. Good news, we got your payment, buddy. Bad news, they gave you life.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They gave. Your life was crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

They saying Chad gonna walk, too.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I don't think so.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't think you know. Here's the thing, bro, it's like, if he did, black people wouldn't be shot. They want to. I think. Here's the thing, man. They want to raise. They raised. But baiting us, bro. Yeah, they want us to. They want us to do something drastic. Yeah, they do, because we didn't do it when they expected us to. They thought the ICE was gonna have us in the street.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Nope.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it's not. And it didn't. So they like, bro, we gotta find something.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Gotta find something, cuz.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, this is another thing, too. Now, now. Now. I entertain this conspiracy part of it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

All right, let's do it.

[Deontay Kyle]

The. It's not about Asians. It's about us. We already know y' all don't like us. So that's not the. That's not the biggest. The. The big picture. The big picture is they need something to piss us off to get us in the streets. They need a reason, man. They've been trying to find and. Because this thing happened three years ago.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

We ain't heard nothing about it. Nope. It's very convenient that we hear about it now. When the charges drop, Right?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, when the ver. When it's time for the verdict. Right then. My boy, Carmelo. Carmelo Anthony.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Young man from Texas.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

All white jewelry.

[Deontay Kyle]

All white Jerry.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, they. They with us as always.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

As always.

[Deontay Kyle]

They need our energy. And I be telling all the time, bro, you really got to conserve and preserve your energy, bro, because they are constantly, constantly trying to harvest us for energy. We are under the constant attack, whether it be mental, physical, or spiritual. They. They want our attention. This thrive of her attention, bro. Yeah, man, these are vultures, bro. These are vampires. Is parasites. I have a whole spill about that, but you got to come see me live. So brother number one, we're gonna take this out. Shout out, my brother. Absol.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Y' all tap into the boat doc every Sunday, doing a new freestyle over a new beat.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, he's killing it. He's killing it, my.

[Deontay Kyle]

So brother number two.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right. We're gonna take this thing out, man, since we already done. All right. Did everything we need to do.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay. Yeah, man. I hope y' all enjoy me being on camera, too. Hope y' all enjoy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get used to it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

New studio coming soon.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

New studio, new look.

[Deontay Kyle]

Big cat on cam.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, man. Hey, look, the mystique is gone.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, it's over with keeping that up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, it's over with.

[Deontay Kyle]

You see my. Over here with the mob on.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. You know she's got Marvel, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You never seen me like this before. Hey, man, never seen me like this.

[Deontay Kyle]

I get used to seeing big cat on camera. Yeah, y' all follow Big Cat. Y' all tap in and wind down. Wednesdays. Every Wednesday from 8 to 10, house music. Fridays. Every Friday from 8 to 10.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

On tick Tock. Follow big ice cup cat.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

And that's cat with a K. Cat

[Big Ice Cupcat]

with a K, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? We got a kid. We gotta kill that animation cat, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah. Get the real big kid cat out here, man. It's time, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's time.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's time. I think. Yeah, it's time.

[Deontay Kyle]

We had 150. We only got 100 episodes left.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. And 200,000 subscribers.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah. We is close.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we close, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

I wonder how close we are.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We close, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's see.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We close.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's see if we can see them numbers real quick.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, we almost there.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Where we at?

[Deontay Kyle]

We at 196. Okay. Yeah, we. We getting there.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We getting there, getting there.

[Deontay Kyle]

196. Almost at 200k. I'm almost at 700k on tick tock.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

On Tick Tock.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. And I'm almost at 500k on Instagram. Wow, wow, wow. Shout out to your boy, man. I'm a real famous.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, man. Actually, it's a lot of people watching you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. God damn, bro. Yeah, I'll be doing my thing, man. You know what I'm saying? Cause I'm gonna keep that. Yeah, I'm kicking it real, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

There's 1.2 total. 1.2.

[Deontay Kyle]

1.2, man. Yeah, man. I need that account to reflect.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't worry about it, Bab.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm have that 1.2 million.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We getting there, so don't worry about it.

[Deontay Kyle]

We going to get some land.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Some land, son. Yeah, man, just in case, son. We got to go upgrade B sometimes. Just in case.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, just got to get.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Y. Man, but. Nah, man, you know, it's been love, bro. I'm happy, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm happy. I'm very happy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let me tell you where it's been. We should. We should do this more often, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, we should.

[Deontay Kyle]

We should. Yeah, we got some. We got some amazing guests coming in the next couple of weeks, too. AJ, McQueen, Ray Daniels.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Jamila gonna come. Jamila never came solo. Okay?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Chop it up with her. She had a lot going on.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She did.

[Deontay Kyle]

She does. She just turned 30.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

She just turned 30.

[Deontay Kyle]

She's been having an amazing year.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Nah, for sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

And definitely proud of that girl. And my partners, man, Lou Young and Trey Day. They gonna pull up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay. They go pull up. Okay. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got it? Yeah, man, we got it. We all for the four of us.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's gonna be a good.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's gonna be a good one. Yeah. So.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. All right. We're gonna knock them interviews out, then when we in New York. Mar Lamont Hill.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. That's gonna be fun, Reg. That's gonna be fun.

[Deontay Kyle]

Usama said he wanted to do, you know, the dude, Osama Siddiq.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But he's. I think he on Twitter tour. Okay. We supposed to do it last month, but we gonna. And we got a special. We got one we trying to lock down.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

But we, you know, waiting on confirmation. All right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

All right.

[Deontay Kyle]

So we're gonna knock a couple out when we go to New York. Then we got the Philly show.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Philly show.

[Deontay Kyle]

I got the host in United with Heels.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's gonna be a great.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's gonna be fun, good time in Philly, man. Yeah. Rocky hips.

[Deontay Kyle]

I just want to rock.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna be rocking. Yeah, you gotta rock. We have a great time, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We have a good time, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, more than anything, man. Thank y', all, y', all, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

For sure.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Thank y' all so much.

[Deontay Kyle]

Show up, bro. Show up and show out week after week. I can depend on y', all, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

And we love y' all for it, man. So we appreciate y'. All. We going to take it out with my favorite song.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Let's do it. Uhoh.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right. Episode 151 Big Cat on Camera.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get used to it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Big ice cup. Big ice cup. Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you on camera right now, tell the people how you feel. Tell the people how much you love them.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

And tell them we'll see them next week.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We'll see you next week, baby. We love you.

[Deontay Kyle]

The guillotine. Big ice cup I can love you better than she I know sometimes

[Big Ice Cupcat]

can't

[Deontay Kyle]

get around but we'll make it we'll make it through the storm and I know I will try to make sure that you can trust me and you

[Big Ice Cupcat]

know the reason why oh, man, this

[Deontay Kyle]

video all over the place. What you doing in the woods?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I don't know. She just out in the middle of nowhere.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, you're not stalking. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Dirty mackers be stalkers.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, they be stalkers.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't going to lie. Mary look fine now.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Mary was fine back in the day.

[Deontay Kyle]

Mary fine now. She look good now. Back then she was like, fresh out the cres, too.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Back to the song, please. I can love you, I can love you

[Deontay Kyle]

can.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I know that you I know that

[Deontay Kyle]

you wish that you can be my man. If I told you once, I told you twice qb, fold a booty like a poopy for mo son. Let me tell you something. More ice.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yes, sir. Yeah, 90's fine, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, man. Kim, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

90's fine.

[Deontay Kyle]

When I was a little boy yeah and she said she gonna make the Sprite can disappear I knew, oh, I knew what direction I was going yeah,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I knew then you know what you like. I'm looking for the little K. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what you like.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then, man, just brown skin with a little mole on your face.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Just a mole. Just a mole. She look good.

[Deontay Kyle]

You remember she showed up on the red carpet with the little titty, little titty out.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, man. Yeah. Know what you want it?

[Deontay Kyle]

I like a little ghetto.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. Ghetto girl, baby, you just like something from down, from down the block.

[Deontay Kyle]

I get it, Biggie. I get it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Let's do it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's do it. Well, look, man, we see y' all next. We'll see y' all on Wednesday.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

On Wednesday.

[Deontay Kyle]

Special Saturday, man. Saturday night night. Special, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, we just chilling.

[Deontay Kyle]

We were just kicking.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We just kicking it, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it's all love, man. We Love y'. All. Episode 151 we gone.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Mary, Mary, take us to the promised land.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Ah.

[Deontay Kyle]

If I told you once, I told you twice qb, fold a booty like a poopy for mo Ice armor truck heist get the bonus like the bouche in love with you since the day days that you say Now I watch you play Columbo Picasso tricks inside Colossus Turn your castle to brothels who you love and who you want to be hugging dipping on your ninja Honda with Tanisha and Ra you go more by DA James Fonda physical fitness Mary Bl Be my witness under pressure I lie for you, die for you Ruga by the side for you right hand high for you because of you I'm inherited Trillion February. Day. You look like really so you with

[Big Ice Cupcat]

you with this, you had to party with this this.

[Deontay Kyle]

This your queen.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This it right here.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, look, I'mma tell you what they used to like back in the day.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What?

[Deontay Kyle]

They used to like one of these.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

They was. For sure. They love that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man, they was.

[Deontay Kyle]

With that man, we got, man, we that, man. You know what I'm saying? What that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Man, she got something else. I thought I was getting up out of here.

[Deontay Kyle]

We was, but we back, we back, we back. Y' all gotta get this how I'm getting.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, man, let's do it. Let's do it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Come on, man. Man, we got a little something.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, you gonna take it?

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, all right. Tristan, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't roll the credits. Yeah, don't roll the credit. Trish, you wanted to roll the credits, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You can fade this to blacks.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man, look at the range, man. We go from Joe to Mary J.

[Deontay Kyle]

We got going on in here, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's a system of a down. Look at the range of this, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, man. Special night.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Saturday. Saturday.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Big can on camera.

[Deontay Kyle]

Sticky.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

God damn it.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, man. Tristan, you could, like, fake this black, like, do some thankses and.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just do a slideshow of, like, pictures or something.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah. Yeah, man. We are for real this time Dreams

[Deontay Kyle]

are main Winding through my head. Through my. Before you die.