Episode 154 - Back Bone or Black Blown?

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast – Episode 154: “Back Bone or Black Blown?”

Host: Deante’ Kyle
Date: June 16, 2026

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Episode Overview

Deante’ Kyle is back for a raw and unfiltered session in episode 154, “Back Bone or Black Blown?”. This episode dives deep into Black economic power, the need for sustained wealth transfer and community solidarity beyond surface-level boycotts, the psychological impact of convenience, and urgent issues around the justice system’s treatment of Black people. With co-hosts Big Cat and Big Ice Cupcat, the show blends humor and critique, moving from celebratory Knicks talk and community announcements to passionate social commentary and audience letters.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Celebration, Community & Upcoming Events

• Early banter celebrates the New York Knicks' NBA championship after 53 years (04:41), poking fun at New York life, and hypothesizing about studio spaces in NYC ("We can't take all this winning. I'm in new... move to New York," – Deante’ Kyle, 11:33).
• Promotion of live shows (June 18th in Philly, June 25th in LA), Juneteenth Film Festival, and new merch lines.
• Community engagement: Emphasis on unity through Patreon, advice call-ins, and connecting at live events.

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2. Beyond the Boycott: Wealth Transfer and “Backbone or Back Blown?”

Timestamp: 15:25 – 40:00

• Deante’ pivots from pop culture to the show’s main theme: the movement from boycotting non-Black-owned businesses to embracing a “wealth transfer” lifestyle—intentionally redirecting Black dollars to Black-owned entities as a lasting strategy, not just protest (“This is not just a boycott… This is a lifestyle. This is a wealth transfer,” – Deante’ Kyle, 15:39).
• Recognizes the pattern of other communities gaining wealth during crises (COVID, tech booms), framing this as the Black community's moment for collective uplift.
• Psychological framing: Drawing analogies between leaving abusive relationships and the community leaving exploitative consumer behaviors—"We packed our bags, we dipped out like a thief in the night, and now we…putting ourselves first.” (Deante’ Kyle, 17:05)
• Notable quote: “If you can't find an alternative for that service owned by somebody who looks like you, then that may be a service you don't need anymore.” (21:16)

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3. Systemic Injustice: Case Commentaries & Social Litmus Tests

Timestamp: 22:10 – 40:00

• Thorough, emotionally-charged breakdowns of recent high-profile legal cases affecting the Black community, specifically the cases of:
  • Carmelo Anthony: “I believe that Carmelo Anthony is acting in self-defense…this is a time of desperation for America. They've tried everything they can to antagonize the black community.” (25:06; 27:04)
  • Rick Chow acquittal: “We acquit a man of murder…because then it shows that even if you've done nothing wrong, they can murder you and they won't be held accountable.” (29:43)
  • Exposing double standards in sentencing and media focus: Referencing child exploitation crimes committed by white perpetrators, pointing out selective outrage and coverage – “You called Carmelo a monster for defending himself.” (41:54).
• The message: the justice system is set up to instill fear and maintain control, not deliver fairness (“This is a control system to keep you fear-based, continue to let shit slide. They weaponize the justice system against you,” – 47:18).
• Challenges listeners to see public reactions and verdicts as “social litmus tests” for community unity and strategic alliance.

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4. On Convenience, Community Habits & Self-Esteem

Timestamp: 34:10 – 58:00

• Encourages self-sufficiency ("You can make wings at home…And who fry chicken better than us?" – 57:18).
• Critiques psychological barriers that keep Black consumers tethered to non-Black businesses, especially when it comes to beauty supplies and food services.
• “You look for a reasonable return to the plantation…it's just a deep psychological wound and a relationship with abuse and trauma. Almost as if it's an addiction.” (35:03)
• Challenging gendered burdens: Points out how pressure to boycott is disproportionately placed on Black women (nail salons, beauty supply stores). Suggests 60-day moratoria on liquor stores and wing spots not Black-owned as parallel acts of solidarity for men (54:43; 57:00).

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5. Rebuilding Black Cultural Spaces

Timestamp: 61:13 – 67:53

• Nostalgically recalls communal spaces like old-school barbershops as cultural centers—calls for recapturing these for future generations: “Let's just go in and sit down and have conversation. Appointment, man. Yeah, the appointment is killing…the vibes.” (61:13)
• Encourages intergenerational skill-building and collaborative business instead of saturation (“How about y’all get together, y’all buy one big ass barbershop?” – 64:13).
• Stresses the value of boredom, togetherness, and organic exchange as revolutionary: “Being bored is blessing…The revolution is love. If you love yourself, this is an act of revolution.” (67:09; 67:27)

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6. Audience Letters: Real Talk & Community Problem-Solving

Timestamp: 68:13 – 98:44 Advice Segment Highlights:

• Job loss & emotional support: Caller thanks the hosts for their consistency during personal struggles. Encouragement given for perseverance and seeking community (71:34 – 72:15).
• Young woman returning from Spain to Raleigh seeks job leads: The show calls for community help, directly connecting her with a listener in Raleigh working in digital marketing (79:44 – 102:43).
• Tokenism and racial dynamics in social circles: Deante’ and the team advise a Nigerian-British listener who feels isolated by her white friends’ microaggressions, affirming her Blackness and urging her to build new, meaningful relationships within her own community (86:33 – 92:41).
• Trying to ‘wake up’ family amidst interracial complexities: A listener struggles with racially dismissive family conversations; hosts joke but also sympathize about the difficulty of challenging entrenched perspectives, affirming the importance of personal growth and healthy boundaries (93:03 – 99:19).

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7. Economic Infrastructure & The Path Forward

Timestamp: 99:54 – 110:00

• Shout-outs to Black business owners, strategists, and ongoing partnerships (“If you have a Black-owned business and want to know where you stand, holler at my man…” – 104:02).
• Plug for insideleads.com, tying digital strategy and local SEO directly to Black economic empowerment.
• Vision for feeding and uplifting communities emulating the Black Panther Party’s model: “I want to get five to ten food trucks that'll pull up in the hoods or pull up in low-income communities and give breakfast out to these babies for free…There is no revolution on an empty stomach.” (107:00).
• Recap of the core principle: Meeting community needs is foundational to true liberation and collective power.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You either gonna have a backbone, Or you gonna get your back blown out!” (59:59, Deante’ Kyle), giving the episode its provocative title and summarizing the stance: assert yourself and defend community interests, or be exploited and disrespected.
• “If you can't find an alternative for that service owned by somebody who looks like you, that may be a service you don't need anymore.” (21:16)
• “Convenience breeds conformity.” (29:33)
• “We packed our bags, we dipped out like a thief in the night, and now we…putting ourselves first.” (17:05)
• “There is no revolution on an empty stomach.” (107:09)
• “The revolution is love. If you love yourself, this is an act of revolution.” (67:28)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:00 – 02:29: Intro banter, Knicks celebration, show logistics
• 07:30 – 13:00: Events, live shows, Philly/LA, Juneteenth, new merch
• 15:25 – 22:10: Black economic power, ‘wealth transfer’ vs. boycott
• 22:10 – 40:00: Systemic injustice, courtroom bias, viral news, fear tactics, community responses
• 40:04 – 61:13: Gender and convenience, confronting anti-Blackness in daily choices, personal accountability
• 61:13 – 67:53: Barbershop nostalgia, cultural centers, call for collective business models
• 68:13 – 98:44: Voicemails/emails from listeners; advice on jobs, friendship, family dynamics, business networking
• 99:54 – 110:00: Building Black economic infrastructure, shout-out to Black digital strategists, feeding the community, closing reflections

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Final Thoughts & Energy

Deante’ Kyle and his co-hosts mix humor, sharp critique, and practical advice, challenging listeners with tough love and cultural insights. The episode is charged—part celebration, part call to arms, and part group therapy session for a community under pressure but hungry for real change.

Deante’s challenge for listeners:
“Do you want to have a backbone, or do you want to have your back blown?”

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For Black business owners: Hotlinks and support provided by a fellow listener; all are encouraged to network, self-educate, and contribute to building self-sustaining community infrastructure—because the revolution, at its core, is love.

Transcript

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[Big Cat]

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And.

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Never.

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Okay. Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Good brother. This is real life.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You in your second year, right?

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You lost year.

[Big Cat]

Learn how to close the game.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, listen, man. Very young team on the Spurs.

[Big Cat]

It was a very young team.

[Deontay Kyle]

Very young team folded under pressure. Yeah, you fold it. Yeah, y' all fold it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And you know, this is the.

[Deontay Kyle]

Y' all got a pretty ass coach, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Greg Popovich,

[Big Cat]

pretty boy coach.

[Guest or Contributor]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Pretty bricky up there coaching you.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Greg Popovich would never let that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let blow on a 29 point.

[Big Cat]

Not pop.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not even with his bench.

[Big Cat]

Not Pop.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look great. Popovich go up 29. He Putting this whole bench in. And I guarantee you they ain't gonna give you five.

[Big Cat]

Nah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Huh?

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause Pop ain't playing. You get traded the same day.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah. You get.

[Deontay Kyle]

You get traded in the finals.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

In the finals.

[Big Cat]

You get traded across the country.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You'd be playing basketball in Pelican Bay.

[Big Cat]

Well, Pop get done with you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Congratulations to New York Knickerbockers.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

First championship in what, 53.

[Big Cat]

53.

[Caller or Listener]

4.

[Big Cat]

53 years.

[Deontay Kyle]

53 years, man.

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, a lot of teams have come.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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[Big Ice Cupcat]

That boy Brunson.

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Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Man.

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The king of New York.

[Poet or Rapper]

Huh?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

New York City, the top Mighty Mouse.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Co-host or Guest]

Huh? Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

They say, they say you can't believe in Brunson until it's time to cover Brunson.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

When it counts.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

When it counts.

[Big Cat]

When it counts.

[Deontay Kyle]

First of all, Stephen A. Smith has killed his credibility. But we'll get to that in a second.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Deontay Kyle]

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Hype that video up.

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That.

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[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Don't want to stand.

[Deontay Kyle]

Do I want to stand?

[Big Cat]

Don't want to stand for the hour. That two hours. That's. You better have some comfortable shoes.

[Deontay Kyle]

You stand the Brooks Brothers.

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And come and come with it.

[Big Cat]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

Go have a good time, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

But yeah, so June 18, Philadelphia. If you couldn't make it to seats and you don't want to stand, go to the pregame show at the United Wheel Film festival at the Underground Arts.

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[Deontay Kyle]

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Yeah.

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Events. We got another one.

[Caller or Listener]

Oh.

[Deontay Kyle]

United Wheel Film Festival. Juneteenth. We'll be there.

[Big Cat]

We'll be there.

[Deontay Kyle]

We're gonna be watching some incredible films by incredible black independent filmmakers. Last year, it was an honor to be able to host that, but this year we're doing it bigger. We're doing it bigger.

[Big Cat]

Okay?

[Deontay Kyle]

And then we're gonna have the after party, all female DJ set.

[Big Cat]

Can't wait.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's gonna be so lit.

[Big Cat]

I can't wait.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, man, if you think I was lit last year.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, just you wait.

[Big Cat]

Oh, and he got me with him. This time he's gonna be extra lit.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

What else we got?

[Deontay Kyle]

We got advice. We got a couple of advice segments we had. Due to some technical difficulties on our end last week, we had to cut out some of the voicemails. But we're gonna run some voicemails back this week.

[Big Cat]

Okay?

[Deontay Kyle]

And we got the advice segments coming, so. 657234 eggs. That's 657-234-3447. If you want to call in and leave a voicemail or once a month when we do our live stream, if you like to call and talk to me, big cat, personally.

[Poet or Rapper]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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$8.

[Deontay Kyle]

It ain't gonna be never nothing but $8. It's always gonna be $8, man. Then June 25th, City of Angels, Los Angeles, at the Regent Theater.

[Big Cat]

Okay?

[Deontay Kyle]

Grizzly Eggs podcast live show. Man, you gotta pull up, gotta pull up. That ticket's been moving, but it's BET week. It's a lot going on.

[Big Cat]

It's a lot going on that week.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a lot going on.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, go.

[Deontay Kyle]

Got the ticket.

[Big Cat]

Go get them tickets, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cop a chicken.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

With me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, we gonna be there then we're gonna be doing some media for bet. Yeah, we got some fire interviews lined up. We just had an incredible week of interviews with. Of course, the Lou Yan show interview is out now. Great, great.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Show.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm debating, but I think next week we're gonna drop the Ray Daniels episode.

[Big Cat]

Powerful episode. Yeah. Great episode, man. That was. That was fire.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was.

[Big Cat]

That was fire.

[Deontay Kyle]

We had Ray Daniels come through, AJ, McQueen, and of course, my namesake, Deontay Hitchcock.

[Big Cat]

Hey, my man pulled up on us.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Who was it? It was Ray.

[Big Cat]

Oh, oh, oh, how you missed this one.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

DJ Scream.

[Big Cat]

Hey, the legend.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The legend.

[Big Cat]

We the legend.

[Deontay Kyle]

DJ Scream, pull up on us as well. So, man, you know, the granny's house interviews. I want y' all to think of it less as an interview and more as a conversation. Of course, I have a couple of questions to ask as the interviewee, but I'm a chatty Patty, man. I like to run my mouth. So we like to have a good time. We like to have a conversation. You know what I'm saying? I'm not no Barbara Walters over here. I'm doing this shit the way I do it. You at Green Jamie's house. We just busting it up.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And. And the first interview that we dropped from there, Very successful. Very successful. Lou Yon. Shout out to the Lou Yon show. Shout out my boy Luyon. Shout out to trade.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to Jimmy LaBelle. She also pulled up. We had a great conversation.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The bell.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ring a bell production. So, yeah, man, we got some good coming for you, but nothing is more important right now than that orange and blue, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean,

[Deontay Kyle]

mom dawgs, that's a real New Yorker. Let me tell you something, man. Let me tell you something, man.

[Big Cat]

It's a real New Yorker right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Y' all ain't been doing nothing but winning since he took off.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

New York.

[Deontay Kyle]

There's a lot of W's being had. Ah, the. The lobster's too buttery.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Poet or Rapper]

Huh?

[Deontay Kyle]

The steak's too juicy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Mom. Dy.

[Deontay Kyle]

We can't take all this winning. I'm in new move to New York

[Big Cat]

it studio in New York, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, we get a nice little New York little. Little co op.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

You hear what I mean?

[Co-host or Guest]

Little.

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

We There charges 10 million.

[Big Cat]

10 million a month, baby.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

We'll be back. We'll be back in Atlanta butt naked and shaking

[Deontay Kyle]

my. My, my. My application for Magic City. So we get back on our feet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. It's, you know, Shout out to the championship. Shout out to the New York NBA champion.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

I will be in New York this week, man.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know if we're gonna make that parade.

[Big Cat]

We try, we'll try. If we can. If we can, we'll make it.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, I'll pop out, man. Y', all, New York, y' all a little too crazy right now. Y' all winning too hard.

[Big Cat]

They're burning the city down right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

They're going crazy. But, you know, keep it kosher. Cause y' all got a good mayor, man. Yeah, y' all gotta keep it cool, man.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? I'll say this. We got great interviews this week as well. I'll give you two of them. Cause the other two, it's surprises, you know, you gotta. You gotta surprise the folks. You gotta hit him out of left field. All right, all right. We do got the. The, homie. Oh, the. The. The. What was it? Funny? AF finalist.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, yeah, Thomas.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah, Reds. Thomas. He's pulling up. He'll be at the Philadelphia show. Yeah, and he'll be at the LA show as well. Yeah, he is.

[Poet or Rapper]

He.

[Deontay Kyle]

He is not. He ain't went Hollywood on us just yet.

[Co-host or Guest]

No, not yet.

[Big Cat]

Not yet. We still can get him, baby.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, I mean, lucky.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Luckily for us.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Luckily for us. We can still get them.

[Big Cat]

Mr. Rich Thomas.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, we got the homie Eagle Wit pulling up on us, too. Eagle Whip will always also be a judge at the United Hill Film Festival.

[Big Cat]

Okay?

[Deontay Kyle]

So, yeah, man, if you're in Philadelphia right now, pull up. You know what I'm saying? We're gonna have a great time now, Big Cat. Yo, how you feeling, man?

[Big Cat]

I'm feeling good, man. Nick, the Knicks won't brought the championship back to the city, man. It's been a long time, man. Hip hop was just born when the last time the won the championship, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Who's on that team?

[Big Cat]

I have no idea how to call. That's my pops. That.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's real New York City.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Grimy.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yellow Cab.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Real grimy New York back then.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

This one, the Bronx was on fire.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

The Bronx was abandoned buildings. People still living in them.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Real rubble.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Broken glass everywhere.

[Big Cat]

Everywhere. One of my mom's favorite songs she listen to. To this day I come to the crib it's all.

[Deontay Kyle]

So she cooking. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah it's like a jungle sometimes yeah. It made me wonder how I keep them going under. Hey, that's some real. It is real. Hey, listen, man. Listen, man. I seen a video. The white boys, man, they back in the garage. Recession indicator. Oh, recession Indicator. The white boys is back making new metal.

[Big Cat]

Really?

[Deontay Kyle]

And it sounds great.

[Big Cat]

What is it?

[Deontay Kyle]

I, I now this, this wasn't.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This didn't seem.

[Deontay Kyle]

This was a grungy, grungy enough of a garage for me. Okay, but they doing. But they doing it. They back, they back. Okay, they back. They back screaming.

[Big Cat]

They had to, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Come on, man.

[Big Cat]

You got to get back.

[Deontay Kyle]

Enough. Enough of this hip hop shit.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, put the, Put the, Put the.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look, man. Put the 808s down, man. And pick up the drum set, baby.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, you won't need that from y'.

[Poet or Rapper]

All.

[Deontay Kyle]

We don't need auto tune from y'.

[Co-host or Guest]

All.

[Deontay Kyle]

We need bass guitars. We need electric guitars. We need a great jump set.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And we need a lead singer that look a little androgynous.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Huh.

[Deontay Kyle]

A that can hit some high notes with some very long hair.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I want to see a longer.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I want to see that. I need that.

[Big Cat]

I miss that.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, it's. It's like one of my favorite parts of the early 2000s, man.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, and we miss that. We got a lot going on in America. We'll start with this.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is.

[Deontay Kyle]

This has gone beyond a boycott.

[Big Cat]

Okay?

[Deontay Kyle]

Y' all talking. You know, last week we discussed how spicy they was talking, and black people have taken note. I think that we ourselves have done an excellent job. An excellent job. An excellent job of making sure that everybody understands just how true their colors are. They've shown them. They've shown those colors. They've been calling us everything but a child of God when all we said was we just gonna spend money with our own. So this is now beyond a boycott. This is not just a band. This is a lifestyle. This is a wealth transfer. We transferring wealth. We saw the Technocrats do this during COVID We seen a lot of people

[Big Ice Cupcat]

go up a couple bill.

[Deontay Kyle]

A lot of bill. We even got our first trillionaire.

[Caller or Listener]

Hmm. Hmm.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is a necessary measure. And it's time, as a community, that we put ourselves first. This is what it's like when you're in a narcissistic relationship. You know, you're so used to the gaslighting tactics. You're so used to the deceit and the manipulation. You're so used to things being held over your head that you don't deserve to be held over your head. But, you know, you get used to it. You get used to the abuse to the point where you start blaming yourself for the abuse to the point where others start Blaming you for staying. But, hey, we left. We packed our bags, we dipped out like a thief in the night, and now we. We putting ourselves first. We move into a new city, huh? We shaving our hair. We dyeing it red. This is the. This is the equivalent of black people. Black people have shaved their hair and dyed it red. You in trouble, nigga.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You in trouble. The.

[Deontay Kyle]

The.

[Poet or Rapper]

The. The.

[Deontay Kyle]

The pictures are getting a little more.

[Poet or Rapper]

We going.

[Co-host or Guest]

We go.

[Deontay Kyle]

We going out more. We wearing less.

[Co-host or Guest]

Y.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We're going out more. We're wearing less. But I can't sleep through the night why do you call when your money's tight? I can't sleep through the night.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's a bop.

[Big Cat]

That's a bop.

[Deontay Kyle]

I like that. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, man, that sound like dawn fm. You know what I mean? Yeah, there's a. There's a. There's a man that's in jail right now who had a sound that sounded like that not too long ago. And, you know, we're glad we bringing it back. I like that. That nice little 80s that. That. It sound like. Sound like Beverly Hills Cop.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Shout out.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know that young man's name, but I know Wallow did a whole music video to that song. Oh, did you see that? No, I didn't see Wallow in the park and his. In his finest noi garbage, you know, fully suited, bow tie, reading the paper, right? Going bar for bar on that song. He didn't create a whole production. I thought Wallow dropped the track.

[Big Cat]

It's not Wallow.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's not Wallow. It's not Wallow. It's some. It's some other man.

[Co-host or Guest]

Okay?

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? They got that man in the studio with Tiger now. Tiger's trying to make a resurgence. So, you know, things are happening.

[Big Cat]

Okay?

[Deontay Kyle]

But, you know, the thing is, is that we're in a position where we have a lot of angles that these people are trying to attack us from. So even the goal for. I want y' all to understand this. No matter what you say, I know this nigga. I know him. I know the level of jealousy that he holds. I know the hatred and racism that fuels him. And he never wanted to be a trillionaire for any other reason than to say that Manta Musa isn't the richest person of all time anymore. Right?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But if you. If.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you know in a real way that's all digital, I don't know. I don't. How do you become a trillionaire?

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

How do you become a trillionaire?

[Deontay Kyle]

And how's the working class not doing weapons style maneuvers on you right now? Yeah, this nigga should be being chased through the streets.

[Big Cat]

They can't find them.

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, no. As soon as that noise, I mean, he's, he's in a bunker.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

They can't find him.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He gonna wait till it died out.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because I don't really see how you got people that's out here hungry. You got people, you got some of the largest unemployment rates in this country and quite some time you got black women losing jobs at record, at record speeds. You, you have a lot of wealth inequity going on. You have a lot of people losing homes and losing jobs. And then you want to flaunt to us that somebody's a fucking trillionaire. Then there's conversations around reparations being had in New York City and in California. And, you know, it's always when reparations started, like, you know, the people that have nothing to do with it always got something to say. So I think that as, as America is attaining, you know, insidious amounts of wealth, that we have a wealth transfer of our own and we make this a lifestyle. You know, this is the thing. What it, what it really comes down to is a discipline and a pride. It's not, it's not a punishment, it's a point of pride. How can we continue to create off of our hard work, off of our labor, off of our accumulation of wealth, we continue to create communities of wealthy people that don't look like us, nor do they respect us. No, no, no. It's time. It's time. This is the lifestyle. You know what I mean? If you can't find an alternative for that service that is run by and owned by somebody who looks like you, then that may be a service that you don't need anymore. If you can't find, if you craving Chinese food that bad, I promise you, you can go on TikTok and find a recipe, huh? You can make it yourself. A big issue with all of these businesses is that their business of convenience.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And then not only do we have

[Deontay Kyle]

the model minorities attacking us and basically threatening us to. As if they're entitled to our money. But then we have the old early 1900s. Twelve white jurors convicting a young black man of murder. Murder. Carmelo Anthony was convicted of murder and

[Big Ice Cupcat]

sentenced to 35 years in the same day.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't never seen no shit like that in my life.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It was a speedy trial they rushed that trial. Now then you come out and you have all of this evidence coming out

[Deontay Kyle]

on the back end. So the, whatever Metcalf boy is still alive, didn't take the stand even though he was right there. Probably a star witness. Yeah, never took the stand. That's odd.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Carmelo Anthony didn't take the stand.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now when in a trial for murder

[Big Ice Cupcat]

does the accused not take the stand? I've never seen that. When in a trial for murder is

[Deontay Kyle]

every black juror passed on and it's only white jurors and other people of color.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

How did this go from he brought

[Deontay Kyle]

a knife to school to it wasn't really a knife.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

How does this go from

[Deontay Kyle]

well, from what we saw he was the aggressor

[Big Ice Cupcat]

to oh, now there's footage that's showing not only were the Metcalf brothers jumping

[Deontay Kyle]

him, but there's about four other teens involved in this.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

After the verdict, how does it go from his friend called him over to the tent to the boy could understand and say he wasn't his friend at all. How does it go from Carmelo Anthony was suspended and wasn't even supposed to be on school property to oh no,

[Deontay Kyle]

it was actually the Metcalfs who were suspended. We calling this young man a savage. And these twin brothers have a history of violence.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Violence against their own father, broke his arm, reputation for being bullies. 6 foot plus 200 something pounds plus twin brothers, big kids, big ass little

[Deontay Kyle]

white boys, corn fed white boys. Oh, but they were under attack by this one man, this one young man, this child who was running from his

[Big Ice Cupcat]

life and acting in self defense. But his act of self defense is

[Deontay Kyle]

where I'm going to stand with it. I believe that Carmelo Anthony is acting in self defense.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And his trial along with the acquittal

[Deontay Kyle]

of Rick Child was a desperate measure to keep black people in a state of fear. And it's not working.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's not working. I'm not. You didn't convince me. Here's the thing, I'm not one of these niggas that's going to say, well he should have been charged with something less. No, he shouldn't have been charged at all because he acted in self defense. Now there are rumors of an appeal.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know. Hold on, let me see. So three days ago, Carmelo Anthony appealed his murder conviction arguing that he acted in self defense, inciting issues with trial evidence.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And then we get the, we get the. How, how does this video that basically that, that shows that he acted in

[Deontay Kyle]

self defense how isn't that made it into evidence.

[Poet or Rapper]

And

[Deontay Kyle]

if the Rick Child trial, right,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

the actions that led up to this

[Deontay Kyle]

trial happened three years ago. And I remember us talking about Carmelo last year.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Doesn't it seem like they sped up that trial? Doesn't it seem like they sped up that child to align with the acquittal

[Deontay Kyle]

of Rick Child and then the conviction of Carmelo Anthony.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But there is no evidence or psychological

[Deontay Kyle]

tactics that you can show me that's going to convince me that this young man deserves to serve any time in jail at all. It's free, Carmelo on this side. I posted on my Instagram ways that you can help the family. I post on Instagram the ways that you can help him. But you have to also understand

[Poet or Rapper]

that

[Big Ice Cupcat]

this is a time of desperation for America. They've tried everything they can to antagonize the black community.

[Deontay Kyle]

And the last leg that they had to stand on is this so called justice system.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So we acquit a man of murder. Again, issues with the trial, not charging

[Deontay Kyle]

him with second degree, not charging him with at the very least, manslaughter. Right?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We have the evidence that this young

[Deontay Kyle]

man didn't steal anything. There was no evidence presented in court that he had a gun.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And then Rick Chow is still acquitted of murder.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it just so happens to align up a week, a week or two apart from the conviction of Carmelo Anthony. And you have to understand that they are trying desperately to antagonize black people. And of course the videos of these

[Big Ice Cupcat]

cooning ass niggas is going to go viral.

[Deontay Kyle]

Of course the videos of these rice

[Big Ice Cupcat]

crackers, it's going to go viral because

[Deontay Kyle]

the main goal here is to antagonize the black community. Because regardless of record layoffs, what we saw this week is, damn, it's a lot of black owned beauty supply stores.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Damn, it's a black.

[Deontay Kyle]

A lot of black on nail techs. Damn, there's a lot of black owned restaurants.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Damn, there's a lot of alternatives to

[Deontay Kyle]

this shit that we've been dealing with out of convenience.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The convenience will make you lazy and

[Deontay Kyle]

the laziness is only at the benefit of our oppressor.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now if you can, if you could

[Deontay Kyle]

work around that convenience, because here's the thing, the food prices is raising anyway.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So you may be better off going

[Deontay Kyle]

to the grocery store and just cooking for yourself.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That may be a more equitable way

[Deontay Kyle]

of going about it. Especially if times is tough.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And if times is tough, the one meal that you had at the restaurant

[Deontay Kyle]

could be two meals that you cook for Yourself at home. But the convenience. The convenience breeds conformity.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And if we want to be honest

[Deontay Kyle]

about this, Rick Chow has to live with that. The Chow family has to live with that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So, yes, I believe there's an orchestrated effort to make sure that we acquit him.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because then it shows that even if you've done nothing wrong, they can murder you and they won't be held accountable.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So this is a. This is another fear tactic

[Deontay Kyle]

that are pushing on the black community to keep you in a state of fear, to deregulate your nervous system, to keep you on your toes at all time, to

[Big Ice Cupcat]

keep you in line, to keep you in your place. Not only is it that, but they're willing to sacrifice the soul of Rick

[Deontay Kyle]

Chow just like they was willing to sacrifice the soul of George Zimmerman. George Zimmerman is not doing well.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Rick Chow didn't look too good, but

[Deontay Kyle]

he is not doing well.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They found another business that he owned. Shut it down.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to the good people of South Carolina standing in solidarity with Cyrus Cormac and his family and shutting that business down as well.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's time for people that always try to make us feel uncomfortable, to conform to their wants and needs, for us, for us to start making them uncomfortable. They can't live a life of peace.

[Deontay Kyle]

Rick Chow would not live a life of peace.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

His son, his wife will not live

[Deontay Kyle]

a life of peace because they all got together and murdered a boy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The best case scenario for them was

[Deontay Kyle]

for him to go to prison because at least they will be able to make peace with the situation. But they will never know peace, and they shouldn't. And doubly is a win win for the black community. It's a win win for the black community if we change our perspective from emotion to strategy. Because this can become a social litmus test for the people in our community, for the people we want to do business with, for the people we are participating in this wealth transfer with. Are you a coon or not? Do you believe Carmelo Anthony should have been charged? Or do you believe that he acted in self defense? Will you take people's word for it against one of y'? All?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Will you take people's word for it

[Deontay Kyle]

about Cyrus Cormac and feel like it was just that Rick Child got acquitted? It's a litmus test. See, they run that social experiment on us, but let's run one back on

[Big Ice Cupcat]

them by not conceding.

[Deontay Kyle]

I seen a young lady. See, this is another thing too.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's a how much do you give a fuck? How much do you care what do you do when nobody's looking? How do you pick and choose? You want to pick and choose?

[Deontay Kyle]

What is the alternative? Right?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And, and, and why?

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, I seen a woman today going into it and the young man was like, hey man, you know, the young lady was saying, hey, you know what happened in South Carolina with Cyrus Cormac and you know why we are boycotting these businesses? And she said, yeah, I heard about that. And continue to walk in big ass wig on.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So psychologically for a lot of people

[Deontay Kyle]

this has gotten into,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

this is about their self esteem.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not. And not even their racial self esteem,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

which it should be because it is

[Deontay Kyle]

racial self esteem, but their own personal self esteem. Maybe they don't feel as confident without all the products.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Maybe there's one of those people that don't think their hair is easy to manage so it's easier to slap a wig on. Maybe you're one of those people that is quick to get online and bash and criticize one of the businesses of people that look like you. But I've never heard y' all ever make complaints about these Asian businesses that

[Deontay Kyle]

y' all frequent so much. When I know in close conversations y' all talk about how they practices break down y' all nails and make them brittle. Y' all talk about how rude they are. Y' all talk about how when they, when you put on a translator, you heard them talking shit about you. Yet I don't see y' all running to the fucking Internet for that. These is always conversations held in pride

[Big Ice Cupcat]

as if, as if you're gonna be

[Deontay Kyle]

wrong for speaking negatively, but you quick to do it about your own people. And we ain't gone. I promise you, if you make a negative video about a black owned business, knowing not only what's at stake, but

[Big Ice Cupcat]

knowing that a lot of these people

[Deontay Kyle]

are first time business owners and figuring it out, instead of having a conversation with the business owner or a conversation one of the employees about what your experience is, you ready to tear them down because you're looking for an excuse to go back to the plantation.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

See, when you get out the plantation

[Deontay Kyle]

you got to do for self.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's not easy because even though you used to, even though you got to deal with so much abuse, everything's being done for you. You ain't got to worry about how

[Deontay Kyle]

you're going to eat, they're going to provide the food, even though it's subpar food, even though it's slop, even though it's the scraps. You ain't got to go Grow it on your own. You growing it for them now, they'll

[Big Ice Cupcat]

kill you if they catch you eating the crops that you grow for them.

[Deontay Kyle]

But they won't let you participate in the best cut of meat or the fresh produce. You get what's left over. But when you got to go out there and till your own land and do it for yourself, now all of a sudden you look for a reasonable return to the plantation. A lot of us have, you know, it's just a deep psychological wound and a relationship with abuse and trauma. Almost as if it's an addiction. You don't know. You don't know how to live without the trauma.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Maybe.

[Deontay Kyle]

Maybe you fear how great you can be.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And doubly you doubt if you're capable. Because being self sustaining is hard work.

[Deontay Kyle]

See, it's very easy just to walk into somebody somewhere and have them do the service for you. But it's harder to provide that service for yourself. Especially when you've been consciously and subconsciously told not to trust people that look like you, which makes you not trust yourself in turn, but yet very willing to accept disrespect. Very willing to accept subpar quality and subpar service. Very willing to accept a dismissiveness of your entire being by people who don't look like you. And you call that convenient? This will expose the coons.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now, I'm not. Listen, this is not the time for. Devil's advocate. This is not the time for. Well, there's two sides to every story. Because it ain't never two sides. You think it's two sides of the story with that judge, the one that acquitted and the one that convicted. You think they care about two sides of the story? You think of anybody on that jury that convicted this boy and sentenced him 35 years and three hours. You think they cared about his side of the story? Didn't they go out they way to hide evidence so you wouldn't know his side of the story? I don't got time for you devil's advocates. Only thing I can see about a devil advocate right now is two big black ass circles around your eyes. And you're trying to find a way to find guilt in people that look like you. You're trying to find a way to convince me that Cyrus deserved to die. You try to find a way to convince me that Carmelo Anthony deserved to be charged with murder. Or anything equitable to it. Anything but an act of self defense. Because you, just like them crackers, don't believe that you should be able to defend yourself. Against that almighty white man. It's a last ditch effort. They're desperate. People that are superior don't have to change the rules. Superiority isn't about control. Superiority shines in controlled environments. If you put LeBron James at 15 years old on a basketball court with 15 of the best 15 year olds in the country, he's still gonna be the best. All the same rules apply. It's the same game. They gotta play by the same rules and they all the best. But superiority shines in the controlled environment. So if we all gotta play by the same rules and we keep winning, then who's superior? But if you gotta cheat and you gotta try to control the room, then you're not in a controlled environment anymore. And then you just try to convince me you superior. But what you're really trying to do is scare me. Because you know in a controlled environment, that will be the head and not the tail. And you know, you got 400 years of karmic debt to us and you fear that we gonna do to you

[Deontay Kyle]

what you've done to us.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And more than that, you fear that you deserve it. I believe it was four white men broke into an Asian business and sexually assaulted the workers who were Asian. Haven't heard anything about that. Haven't heard anything about niggerism. Haven't heard anything about pulling businesses out of white neighborhoods. Haven't heard it. Oh, let's see. Another thing that just happened. A charged after adults paid to rape children in Alabama underground bunker. Eight people face charges including rape, sodomy, human trafficking, kidnapping and sexual torture after prosecutors say they ran a child sex ring out of an underground bunker in Brent, Alabama. Between 15 and 20 adults allegedly paid to enter the bunker and abused children's age 2 to 15. Animals were also abused at the site. Now who the fuck do you think was involved in that? You think it was niggas?

[Guest or Contributor]

Big.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

How you think was niggas?

[Big Cat]

Hell no.

[Poet or Rapper]

Brent.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Look at the population of Brent.

[Deontay Kyle]

What the hell is Brent?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Let's look up Brent. Oh, Bibb County. Let's look at Brent. Alabama demographics, okay? Oh, 55% white.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, we got 43% of African Americans.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Because you know that them African Americans, they be hiding in them in them small cities. Yeah, but guess what? Not nary a charged. Not nary not nan one. You called Carmelo a monster for defending himself.

[Poet or Rapper]

Huh?

[Sponsor or Disclaimer Voice]

What?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What the metcalf daddy say. The watermelon felon.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Why did they have to stop to catch a predator?

[Big Cat]

Because there's too many. It's too Many of them too many police.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Too many of them, too many politicians.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Police chief said that these eight men hiding, they face all white men raping and torturing, sodomizing and trafficking children ages 2 to 15. And what else? They said animals were also abused in this sex ring.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't hear no stereotypes. I don't hear nobody saying anything.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Jeffrey Tyler Kinzer. Jeffrey Tyler Kinzer is a racist shooter in Leesburg, Georgia who opened up fire on a family of 15 to 20 black people who were having a celebration, mostly women and children.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's released on a $5,000 bond. And what is he charged with? What is he charged with after Open fire.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Open fire with AR15 on a family

[Deontay Kyle]

in a part of mostly women and children.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Aggravated assault.

[Co-host or Guest]

That's it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Aggravated assault, $5,000 bond. You can.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's look it up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hold on, let's just.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's just look this up. What is aggravated.

[Big Cat]

Was anybody hit?

[Deontay Kyle]

No.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Deontay Kyle]

Aggravated assault is a severe felony level crime. It occurs when somebody attempts or commit a violent act. When attempt to cause serious harm or murder typically involves a deadly weapon. So it seems like it was charged accordingly. But I feel like this should be attempted murder.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

How is this not attempted murder? How is this not for one, a hate crime? And how is Lenaper 2 an act of terrorism? I guess aggravated assault technically is the right charge, but you open a fire

[Deontay Kyle]

on women and children, I don't see how that's not attempted murder. Let's see what attempted murder is classified as. How do you classify attempted murder? Attempted murder is severe felony level crime that occurs when somebody tries to kill another person but does not succeed. To convict a person of this crime, prosecutors must prove both of specific intent to kill and a direct physical step towards completing the murder. Intent to kill. The success specifically planned or intended to end the victim's life. Direct action. The suspect took a physical step towards the killing that went beyond just planning or talking. That sounds like attempted murder. I don't know about y'. All.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It sounds like Jeffrey Tyler Kinzer plotted to attempt to murder these women and

[Deontay Kyle]

children and a few men in Leesburg.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now, why

[Deontay Kyle]

does this also make the news around this time? Not only because it happened, but you have to understand something. There is an insurmountable amount of crime happening in America at all times.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

There is an insurmountable amount of crime happening in America at all times. How do they pick and choose?

[Deontay Kyle]

What makes national news?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I didn't know about this Cyrus Cormac

[Deontay Kyle]

case three years ago when it happened.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, but I Knew all about it

[Deontay Kyle]

over this last month.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I knew about the Carmelo Anthony case as soon as it happens. Now, not only do we get the, the, the acquittal of Rick Chow for

[Deontay Kyle]

killing a 14 year old baby, but

[Big Ice Cupcat]

then we get the speedy conviction of

[Deontay Kyle]

Carmelo Anthony and sentenced to 35 years within the same week.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And then we get the news about Jeffrey Tyler Kinzer firing a weapon at a group of 15 to 20 people

[Deontay Kyle]

in Leesburg, Georgia, and charged with aggravated assault and released on a $5,000 bond. What does this signify? Two people that hate black people. And what does this signify to black people?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What message is being told to black people? The message is you can kill them

[Deontay Kyle]

and you'll get away with it

[Big Ice Cupcat]

if they kill you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Even if they're defending themselves, they won't get away with it. And if you attempt to kill them, we'll charge you with the less, the least possible charge that we can.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And we'll make the bond affordable. See, here's the issue with the niggas

[Deontay Kyle]

like Chud the builder is that he got it all on film.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And if you, if you, you know, and, and there's still looming concerns that

[Deontay Kyle]

he's going to get away with it too. And if he does, it's more of the same.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's a control system to keep you

[Deontay Kyle]

fear based, to keep you docile, to

[Big Ice Cupcat]

continue to let shit slide. They weaponize the justice system against you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because in this system they make the rules.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And you've never imagined yourself in a

[Deontay Kyle]

position to make the rules. Only abide by them.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And even when you do abide by them by the letter of the law, they won't give you that benefit of

[Deontay Kyle]

the doubt

[Big Ice Cupcat]

so they could jump you.

[Deontay Kyle]

You can defend yourself. And if somebody dies, you're going to be charged with murder. But the shoe was on the other foot. The Metcalf boy, they would have gave him self defense right off the rip

[Big Ice Cupcat]

and nobody would have questioned it because y' all have convinced yourselves that black

[Deontay Kyle]

people are monsters with no evidence. But you don't think white men are monsters when they rape, torture and sodomize children ages 2 to 15. You don't think white and animals that y' all love so much and you don't think white men as monsters when

[Big Ice Cupcat]

the show about catching child predators has to go off the air because it was too many police chiefs, it was too many politicians, it was too many people in power.

[Deontay Kyle]

This your God. These are your leaders. These are the people you deem as superior. But superiority is found in controlled environments, not in environments where you assume control,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

you can't, you can't claim superiority and then always have to twist and contort the rules.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got to change the rules.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You got to cheat to win.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's not superiority.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Superiority is.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't think we got to worry about the New York Knicks because Jalen Brunson, he's no Steph Curry, he's no LeBron James.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But in that controlled environment where everybody

[Deontay Kyle]

got to play by the same rules

[Big Ice Cupcat]

and everybody is fit to be on

[Deontay Kyle]

that court, who comes out on top, that is superiority.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And you can see that in every avenue and aspect. They burn down your towns because it's superior. They steal your inventions because it's superior. One thing the Asian didn't mention when he started talking about all that manufacturing is that y' all manufacturing shit we invented. Why you ain't bringing that up. Now? That's quiet. I, I, I, I, I don't got time for the.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't got time to play with crackers, I don't got time to play with rice crackers, and I don't got time to play with coons.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The only time I got is for solidarity. The only time I got is tell

[Deontay Kyle]

me how to help fund the appeal.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's a lot of niggas in South Carolina right now in the studio talking

[Deontay Kyle]

about spending on ops. Ain't thought about that Child family scared of your real ops.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Because you know that they control the justice system. And your niggas is too loud and

[Deontay Kyle]

you too emotional to be low about shit.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's not good enough for you to just do it and get away with it.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta talk about it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This has been a hell of a month. And they gonna turn it up some more. Now all of a sudden, I'm seeing Asians everywhere.

[Big Cat]

What you see in a minute?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, man, every commercial. Asians in the Wingstop commercial.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Eating chicken.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, listen, man, I want y' all to tell you, if you keep your eyes open long enough, you start to see it. You try to keep your eyes closed so you can avoid seeing it,

[Caller or Listener]

you're

[Deontay Kyle]

gonna start to see a lot more negative reviews. You're gonna see us.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You're gonna start to see a lot more AI with black faces talking about

[Deontay Kyle]

their black owned business.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Let me tell you something. I need that bitch to look like an iPhone camera.

[Poet or Rapper]

Huh?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I don't need no perfect lighting. I don't need the smoothest skin that the AI can render. I need to see that business. I need y' all to put down these AI flyers.

[Deontay Kyle]

I Don't want to eat no AI food. If I go on a website and

[Big Ice Cupcat]

the food AI, I ain't never coming.

[Deontay Kyle]

Stop taking shortcuts.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Stop taking shortcuts. Hey, guess what?

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna tell you God's honest truth.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

There's a 15 year old in your family that can do this like the

[Deontay Kyle]

back of their hand. They know how to work this technology. They can get you a flyer. They know how to work cap cut.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

you ain't got to pay much. Feed them, buy them some shoes for the same price that you could buy your 15 year old some shoes. You can gain 15 times the business

[Deontay Kyle]

and the customers that you would get

[Big Ice Cupcat]

when you go cheap.

[Deontay Kyle]

Way of taking that AI Flyer. That look like all that other bullshit that's out on the market.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

If the party is promoted with AI flyer, I ain't coming.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you ask me to come speak

[Big Ice Cupcat]

at your event and the flyer is a I ain't coming. I don't care what I signed. Matter of fact, call Alex.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's a clause in my contracts.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

From now on, you can't promote it

[Deontay Kyle]

using AI or I ain't coming.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Don't put me on no AI flyer. Don't put me next to that bullshit font. I don't want to be next to it. You put me next AI, it voids the contract and I'm keeping the money. What, carson, that say streaming university. No AI flyers.

[Deontay Kyle]

Tired of this bullshit. Man, y' all play too much, bruh. Y', all, y', all, y' all play too much with your motherfucking lives. You play too much with your motherfucking pride and your self esteem. A lot of you niggas out here, you know, y' all make these Asian, these beauty supply stores that are women frequent. And now we put all the pressure on the women. Hey, man, how about your ass stop drinking too?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We ever thought about that? We ever mentioned that we boycotting all

[Deontay Kyle]

these businesses in our neighborhood and we just want to. We want to whittle it down to the businesses that mostly our women use. Beauty supply stores, nail salons. Ain't nobody in 2026 should be eating Chinese food.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's some terrible shit. Horrible. Horrible. You don't need a 10 piece wing and fries that bad. Look at your back. Look at it. You don't need the Philly and wing combo. Look at your back.

[Big Cat]

Look at your front.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Look at it. Hey, men, you want to be in solidarity? Let's say we. The way that we born, the way that we participate in this wealth transfer is we ain't gonna do no drinking from. We ain't buying no liquor from a liquor store that's not owned by us. And I don't think we own too many liquor stores, so it don't look like we got too much drinking to do. You wanna drink?

[Deontay Kyle]

Go have a drink at a black bar.

[Co-host or Guest]

Mm.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Go have a drink at a black owned restaurant. You don't know if it's a black owned restaurant. See how many oxtail options they have on the menu.

[Deontay Kyle]

See if it's lemon, pepper, anything on that motherfucker.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

If it's lemon pepper, anything. You in the right spot. Is the spelling of the name conventional? I'm just saying there's some indicators. I think, that this is good. I think this is good. I had a drink today.

[Deontay Kyle]

I took one sip of it, I threw it away.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I didn't want that shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't want it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Summertime, man. Niggas is getting big in this bitch. It's time to slim it down. Too much fried everything.

[Deontay Kyle]

Fried fries, Fred.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is in the name.

[Deontay Kyle]

Fries Fried.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Fried Wing Fried. We ain't eating no egg roll.

[Deontay Kyle]

They frying that too.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, you know, if. If we gonna participate, you know where

[Deontay Kyle]

we like to go?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We like to go to that liquid. We like to go to that wing, that American deli. We like to go to that touchdown wing. But then we gonna put it. Then we're gonna come. We gonna. We're gonna chastise our women if we

[Deontay Kyle]

catch them in the beauty supply store.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We're gonna chastise our women if we

[Deontay Kyle]

see them getting their nails done.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Well, what are we gonna do? How about 60 days?

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's just start there. Wealth transfer.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

60 days, you don't take your drunk

[Deontay Kyle]

ass into the liquor store. And if you gotta have a drink that bad, go to the bar. But you don't go in that liquor store.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

60 days, you don't have no wings. If you know the people that own that bitch is an Asian, what is

[Deontay Kyle]

you in there for? You can make wings at home.

[Big Cat]

Hey, exactly.

[Deontay Kyle]

And who fried chicken better than us? They're gonna tell you it's the Koreans. Guess what? Who taught them soul, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It'll take you 20 minutes. First of all, it's gonna take you 10 minutes to dry there. It's gonna take 20 minutes for the food to be ready. And that 30 minutes, you could have

[Deontay Kyle]

just went ahead and did it yourself.

[Caller or Listener]

Mm.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is gonna be a time where convenience is gonna breed conformity. Do it yourself. 10 piece wing costs how much?

[Big Cat]

Shit, $15.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

$15 a pack of Drum X is 8 and it come with 20 pieces of chicken. At a minimum it's gonna be 15.

[Deontay Kyle]

You go get you a 10 piece for about 7 bucks. Fries don't cost that much money. Potatoes, make them yourself. Yeah, make them yourself.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, if we go do everything convenient, if we're gonna be convenient, we gonna be conformance.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is about non conformity. This is not a boycott, it's a band. It's a wealth transfer.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And the only way to transfer that

[Deontay Kyle]

wealth is to be proactive.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You don't know how to cook, but you on TikTok every day. There ain't a recipe you can look up. How do I filter? How do I filter and prepare a dog shit sandwich? And they gon somebody will teach you. Probably Asian.

[Deontay Kyle]

There ain't a recipe you can't find on there. That's all I'm saying.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's all I'm saying. There's not, there's not a recipe you can't find. If you're gonna call me a racist, I wear the badge proudly because I'm gonna call you one. I don't care about what your response is. I'm here for my people. Just like they down for they people. Be down for your people. Stop being a fucking coward. Stop walking around every day with your head held up high knowing you a pussy. You let them people talk to you any type of way, but you got smoke for your people constantly, seven days a motherfucking week, 24 hours a day. No hesitation to have and go up

[Deontay Kyle]

with your own people.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No hesitation to have smoke with your people. All this docile ass pussy ass, coward ass behavior when it comes to people outside our community, no matter how much disrespect they give you, the. The time for that is over. You either gonna have a backbone, Are you gonna get your back blown out? Hey, yo, that's what it is. They you every. They you anyway. They you anyway. That's what they doing. So you want to have a backbone? You want to have a backbone or you want your back blown?

[Big Cat]

Jesus.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That 20, 26, it's the motto. Backbone. Back blown, 20, 26. Take your pick.

[Big Cat]

Don't let pimpsy down.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Don't let pimpsy down.

[Big Cat]

Don't let him down.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now I know some of you freaky

[Deontay Kyle]

gonna be like, I don't mind. Happy pride month. Happy motherfucking pride Month.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

One but metaphorically.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, metaphorically, cuz.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Cuz you know, we got, we.

[Deontay Kyle]

We're all inclusive.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So happy pride month. But you know what?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We mean.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I couldn't think of nothing. I couldn't. I was freestyling.

[Big Cat]

It's okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's all, you know, alliteration, rhyming words.

[Big Cat]

They get it though.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's my bad.

[Big Cat]

They understand.

[Deontay Kyle]

Maybe we need to find a better

[Big Cat]

N it Keep, keep it at that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Back blow or back blow? Yeah, man, do you want to have a backbone or do you want to have your back blown?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

20, 26.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Stand with your people, man. Big cat, what's happening, man?

[Big Cat]

What's going on, baby? It's a good day, man. You're going off, you're uplifting the people as usual.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man.

[Big Cat]

I want to say this one thing though. If you do have a black business as far as beauty supply or getting your nails done, feet done, barbershop hair salon, let's get back to the old ways of the barbershop in the beauty supply, you know what I'm saying? Let's just go in and sit down and have conversation. Appointment, man. Yeah, the appointment is killing. The appointments are killing the vibes of

[Deontay Kyle]

the barbershop because it, because it takes away from the cultural.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Aspect.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But here's the thing.

[Deontay Kyle]

Everybody's so fucking busy.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Now I understand why somebody explained this today.

[Deontay Kyle]

That because of the cause, because the Asians cut a lot of corners. A lot of them nail techs don't be licensed.

[Big Cat]

They don't be licensed at all.

[Deontay Kyle]

A lot of them are using products over and over again that they, that are one time users.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So they cut a lot of corners and black people are held to a higher standard, which means we're not gonna be able to cut those corners. So the reason why they do it by appointment is so they can basically see how much money.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, but how about, how about a pundit appointments? How about we just leave a day

[Deontay Kyle]

or two for walk ins?

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And, and we just got to be real, train, train up a child.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What happened to that?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What happened to a 15 year old sweeping up the shop and learning how to cut?

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So we, so, so not only do we need to make it more inclusive, but we need to be passing off

[Deontay Kyle]

these skills, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Whether you want to or not. I don't care. I don't care if you want to be a streamer. You're a barber.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Cuddle stream.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, never, we never seen that. Listen, the thing is, is that we need spaces that we can go and

[Deontay Kyle]

just parlay, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but everybody's so busy.

[Big Cat]

I don't see old men in the back playing checkers no more. It breaks my heart, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

Everything is. Everything is grass. Grass, walls. Yeah, we got ring lights.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah. All that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, stop that cutting in the dark.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I need that old dusty damn barbershop, son.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, I need that. I need a checkerboard.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, I need.

[Big Cat]

I need an old checkerboard.

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Barely still holding on. They slamming them up.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I want gambling.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I want dice in the back.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shooting some craps.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man, right back.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Listen, man, just go out there and this used to be the center for some real political debate.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So I think the thing is, is that we can, as we frequent these

[Deontay Kyle]

spaces more, and we need to.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And we. And we.

[Deontay Kyle]

And we rely less on appointments because we know that we guaranteed our people going to come see us. Then we can have more cultural centers.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And then also,

[Deontay Kyle]

you know, the reality is this. There is no. There is no. There is.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The.

[Guest or Contributor]

The.

[Poet or Rapper]

The. The.

[Guest or Contributor]

The.

[Deontay Kyle]

The business aspect of it is oversaturated by people who don't want to be an employee and pay boofer anymore.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

They want to open up their own shop. They want to go from paying boof rig to charging boof ring.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yep.

[Deontay Kyle]

So then you got a barbershop on every block.

[Big Cat]

You don't need that.

[Deontay Kyle]

You don't need it, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

How about.

[Deontay Kyle]

How about y' all get together, y' all buy one big ass barbershop?

[Big Cat]

There you go.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

All the business owners. If.

[Deontay Kyle]

If it's one barber, it don't need to be three barbershops on one street.

[Big Cat]

It does not.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Okay? We're gonna go in, we're gonna find a space, and we're gonna transform that,

[Deontay Kyle]

and we're gonna have one big ass barber shop, huh? Black men everywhere. Black women in there with the temp faith.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Black children in there, they could be

[Deontay Kyle]

loud if they want to be loud. All black men pull up just to say what's up.

[Big Cat]

Just to chill out, Just to talk for a minute. Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's what we need.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man.

[Big Cat]

Need to bring it back, man.

[Poet or Rapper]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

How about this? Hey, man, a perfect space for a barbershop is a nail salon. I mean, God damn, it's kind of lined up.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And when the nail supply go out of business, let's just say, hey, look,

[Deontay Kyle]

go ahead and let our sisters go transfer and take over that.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And let's find our sister spot. When that liquor store go out of business, turn that into the barber shop.

[Co-host or Guest]

There you Go.

[Deontay Kyle]

I got my eye on the liquor store right now. That don't need to be open no more. I'm talking about hours and hours of

[Big Cat]

liquor in that Big Li stuff.

[Poet or Rapper]

Big.

[Deontay Kyle]

The. The surplus. The super. Super liquors.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, we don't need that. Yeah, man, we'll get back. We got to get back to having pillars in our community. Places where we can, you know, places we could communion without it being a church. We got rid of that. We got rid of it.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not to say that there wasn't an attempt and an assistance of getting rid of it, but, man, we need some space. Need some space for ourselves.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This need to be okay. I'm gonna just go hang out at

[Deontay Kyle]

the barbershop, chop it up with the boys. Yeah, we don't have to have a reason for everything.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That's another thing, too. Y' all letting.

[Deontay Kyle]

Y' all letting life just become about you. Like, like. Like you always gotta have a move. You always gotta have something to do. That's why you always moving out of convenience.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Busy body ass nigga. Sit down.

[Big Cat]

Sit the fuck down.

[Deontay Kyle]

Sit down somewhere.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Shit. Women gotta get their hair done. They going all motherfuckin day. Nobody question them.

[Big Cat]

Gone all day. Eight hours for some braids.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Soon as you go to get some goddamn haircut. Now, motherfucker call your fault.

[Co-host or Guest]

Where you. What you doing?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, you up there with Autumn. You must be gay.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, man. Sometimes. Sometimes just need to be around the boys.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And that's okay.

[Big Cat]

It's fine.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know, our community used to thrive like that. Yeah, the women hang out with the women. Men hang out with the men.

[Big Cat]

At some point we come together.

[Deontay Kyle]

At some point we come together. Typically on a Sunday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Damn. Shit,

[Deontay Kyle]

you want your kids off the tablet?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, man, look, man. Saturdays, ain't no tablets in the barbershop.

[Deontay Kyle]

Find something to do. Find something to read.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man, write something.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't care about you being bored. Being bored is blessing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

That means you ain't got no problems.

[Big Cat]

You got no problems.

[Deontay Kyle]

Baby ain't got no struggles.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, man, ain't it grand?

[Deontay Kyle]

Ain't it great that you in a position in life where you got to find something to do?

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause ain't nothing troubling you, man, that boredom is a blessing, man. We said it back in the day, we're gonna say it again. And the revolution is what?

[Caller or Listener]

Love.

[Deontay Kyle]

The revolution is love. If you love yourself, this is an act of revolution.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is a revolutionary act. This is an act of love. I want to spend money with my own people.

[Deontay Kyle]

This act of love. What would you do for what you love? What would you do for who you love? And if you love yourself, what would you do for yourself? Don't let yourself down.

[Big Cat]

Amen.

[Deontay Kyle]

Boredom is a blessing. And the revolution his love. We'll be right back after these commercial breaks.

[Big Cat]

Damn, Rachel, where'd you find this?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We back. Big ice cup.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, look, I'm excited.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because I'm gonna tell you what, we found three. Hey, the.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The questions. This is actually. It's one of my favorite parts of

[Deontay Kyle]

the show, especially the emails, because y' all be coming with it. You know what I mean?

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, I do.

[Deontay Kyle]

I can sense a lot of nervousness sometimes when y' all call, so I understand. Like the voicemails.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Be a little shaky.

[Deontay Kyle]

It'd be a little shaky.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But the. The emails, man, y' all come with it. Before we do anything, though, I just want to let y' all know something.

[Guest or Contributor]

I got the girls so mad. I mean, I got y' all so mad because I'm giving y' all a run for y' all money.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Giving y' all a run for y' all money.

[Guest or Contributor]

Y' all throwing shade and then trying to give me a compliment. Yeah, I see what you doing. You're mad because I'm giving you a run for your money. I'm going to continue to give you a run for your money. Like, don't play with me. I'm the star of the show.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hit that hard.

[Deontay Kyle]

She hit the hardest dance of the year.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah,

[Deontay Kyle]

She's the star of the show.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You're mad cause you're giving. She's giving you a run for your money. This is my quote, 2026.

[Co-host or Guest]

Huh?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You mad cause I'm giving you a run for your money, huh? Independent.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't got no masters.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, ass. I ain't got no masters, rich ass.

[Deontay Kyle]

I got all my masters. You talk to a man. All right, bro. I just wanted to let y' all know I'm giving y' all a run for your money.

[Big Cat]

You hear me?

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Run for your money. Shout out to all the black owned businesses, including ours. Shout out who went the harder way. Yeah, I went to rest. Deshaun on the harder way. Harder way, huh? All right, man. Swiping cards and stacking chips.

[Big Cat]

Here we go.

[Deontay Kyle]

I heard your stinking chips. All right. Six, five, seven, two three, four, eight. 657234, three, four, four seven. If you would like to call in

[Big Ice Cupcat]

and leave a voicemail, but once a

[Guest or Contributor]

month,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

you can call Talk to me

[Deontay Kyle]

and Big cat directly.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But $8.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're gonna need them. $8. Let's get to some of these voicemails.

[Caller or Listener]

Deontay, big ass, Tough K. I'm watching. I'm so 152 right now, and I'm not even no more. 15, 20 minutes into the episode. I'm just calling, let y' all folks know, number one, y' all ain't cutting off at 250 mark. Ain't no questions. Ain't no none of that. I'm telling y', all, I ain't cutting off 250 mark. Also let y' all folks know that a month, two months, I just. Out the window. Out the window. I ain't gonna lie to y'. All. Out the window. But except for that, I'm calling flowers. I'm calling on your credit where credit is due. I do appreciate y'. All. I've been listening those episodes every week. Every week, every day they come out. I just now getting caught up on 152, 153. I lost my job on Monday, so I normally listen to podcast when I work. I was my job Monday. Currently look for a new job.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's really it.

[Caller or Listener]

Just call y', all, get some flowers. Good job keeping how I was doing. And I expect at least 3, 400 more episodes, y', all, but that's it. Bye.

[Big Cat]

Shout out to you, man. Good luck on finding a new job too, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, you'll figure it out. You going bounce back, man. You know, the episode 250 is more of a goddamn running joke at this point.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, I know.

[Deontay Kyle]

Y' all not gonna let us. Y' all just not gonna let us burn this down. So, you know, the thing is, is that it's not just y', all, man, the team, they're gonna be like, hey, I get you. You might need a little break. We ain't mad at that.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Two weeks max.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

The last episode that we will be

[Big Ice Cupcat]

record,

[Deontay Kyle]

It'll air on July 1st.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

We have guest episodes that would be every Saturday. But for the July 8th and the July 15th episode, we're gonna do either a compliment compilation.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And I think it would be good that you know, in celebration of.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Because by that time, we've been not hit our mark. So let's just. Let's just call it now. By the time we come back from. From our hiatus, we will have past 200, 000 subscribers on YouTube. We are at 199 763.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

So by the time we come back. So I feel like it's only right for us to go back into the files and release a old episode.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

A episode from the beginning that, you know. Now you know which one I was thinking about which one we got to put them on the island from.

[Co-host or Guest]

Oh, yeah, that'd be dope.

[Deontay Kyle]

That'd be good.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, that be good.

[Deontay Kyle]

Or.

[Co-host or Guest]

Or.

[Deontay Kyle]

Or we could release that one where we was talking about the white boys in the rock band. I don't know. We'll figure it out.

[Big Cat]

Figure it out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Either we figure it out or,

[Caller or Listener]

you

[Deontay Kyle]

know, I know y' all don't like the guest episodes. That's the reason why I don't wanna.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't. I mean, I think they're.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They're.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now, listen, I will say this. We are recording some pretty tight guest episode. We is having some great guests.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So.

[Big Cat]

But you know what they're here for, though, you know?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I know.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay, so here's what we'll do. We'll do a compilation of the best moments from 2026 so far.

[Caller or Listener]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

We'll do a. Just check in a halfway point, and then we'll do one guest episode. But it'll be a dynamic guest. We won't let you down with the guests. Trust me. It'll be a great episode. All right. Because when I released the one with Mona, they was like, hey, we don't, like, just on Wednesday. But it's mona.

[Big Cat]

It's Mona.

[Deontay Kyle]

So we'll make sure it's equivalent to that.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, cool. You know what? We could drop the Martin Mont Hill one on it.

[Big Cat]

We can do that.

[Deontay Kyle]

We can do that.

[Big Cat]

Or we can film another one, just me and you. Just have it in a tuck.

[Caller or Listener]

Do you.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm not.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Maybe.

[Deontay Kyle]

But that's what the Patreon for.

[Big Cat]

That is what the patreon is for. $8.

[Deontay Kyle]

They'll still get their two episodes.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

They'll still get their two streams.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But for them first two weeks.

[Deontay Kyle]

Please let me break.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Just, please.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm taking my kids on an RV trip.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

We're going on a road trip. I'm taking my kids to New Orleans.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then we're going to Savannah. We was gonna go to Chicago. And if essence. If ESSENCE don't meet matches offer. I'm going to Chicago.

[Co-host or Guest]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

They gotta mess it.

[Caller or Listener]

It.

[Big Cat]

They didn't match it. They just.

[Deontay Kyle]

You threw it out there. Well, they asked us for an offer. They received it and they said basically, like, this Seems feasible for us, but we got to go through the proper channels and you know, when things are that big.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It take them a little while.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, they don't just come right back.

[Big Cat]

Come right.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So, you know, if they match that offer, hey, we're in New Orleans. We in New Orleans. If they don't, I'm in Chicago.

[Big Cat]

It's all good, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? But I'm taking my kids on an RV trip. We're going on a Johnson family vacation.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'll probably be in Houston if you want.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, go to Houston. Have a blast. Have a blast. I'm gonna be with the family. I was gonna vlog it, but are weird. I don't know how I feel about having my kids.

[Big Cat]

Kids on spoilers like that.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I asked them for their consent. I know. And then the person I don't want on camera the most is the person

[Big Cat]

that wants to be on camera. You already know. Yeah, you already know.

[Deontay Kyle]

But we'll, we'll, we'll figure it out. I mean, it should, it could be it, you know, maybe I'm put, I'm just protecting. So maybe I could be thinking about it too much. But I also just want to have a good time with them.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So, you know, we taking MEDIANA and the kids are going get an RV for two weeks. We're going to be hitting that road. My dad's retirement party is on the 11th. Okay, where's it going to be?

[Big Cat]

It's in North Carolina.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes, it's in Charlotte. It's in Charlotte. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I might have to. Yeah, I'm at the drive to Charlotte.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's around Charlotte. I'll tell you. I'll give you exactly.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But yeah, you know, he retired, he's having his retirement party. So we're going to be, we're going to make sure we make our way there.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So if we don't, if, if, you know, if ESSENCE doesn't happen, then we going to Chicago.

[Caller or Listener]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

If ESSENCE does happen, then we're going

[Big Cat]

to go to New Orleans.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, we're going to go to New Orleans and then we leave on the fifth or I think we leave on the fifth or the sixth. If, if it's a sixth, we're going to start making our way. We might just make our way back to. We might do. We're gonna figure it out. We're gonna end up on a beach. That's what we're gonna do.

[Big Cat]

That's the goal.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cuz when we Was going. We was going to go to Chicago. We was going to go to Lake Michigan. Oh, experience.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

That's dope.

[Deontay Kyle]

But, yeah, we take. We doing a black family vacation. So look, man, you bear with me, man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Just two weeks.

[Big Cat]

Two weeks. Y' all be all right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Two weeks.

[Big Cat]

Two weeks.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's just two weeks.

[Big Cat]

Two weeks.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't figure out how to stream while we in la.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we need to. Yeah, we got Trish not coming, but he's. He can.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, we can figure out how to.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we got.

[Deontay Kyle]

Jaylen will be there, too.

[Co-host or Guest]

Oh, yeah, we got it.

[Deontay Kyle]

We good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we good, Jay.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, we good.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, man. We figure out. We do a little streaming while we out there, man. We're going to be at the BT wars. Yeah, it's going to be lit.

[Big Cat]

Have a good time.

[Deontay Kyle]

We going to have a great time.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, I. I think we got one more.

[Big Cat]

Let's hear it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We do two.

[Deontay Kyle]

Two voicemails this week. All right, cuz. I want to get to these emails.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, good.

[Big Cat]

Juicy emails.

[Deontay Kyle]

Great emails.

[Caller or Listener]

Hello, Deontay. Hi, big ice cub cat. My name is Hania. I'm from St. Louis, Missouri, and just want to start this voicemail off with saying, I love you guys. I love your podcast. I love the work that y' all do, not only through the podcast, before the community. It's really admirable. Not only are y' all doing the knowledge, but y' all are really just so funny. Like, listening to this podcast is really just a pleasure. Every time I put it on, I learn something new and I also get to laugh. So thank you all so much for your content. I'm calling in because your girl needs a little bit of help. I've been living in Spain for the past two years. I moved out here directly after college to just experience something new, experience new culture and see a different part of the world. It's been a great pleasure. I've been out here being a teacher, but in about a month, I'll be back in the States and I'll be moving to Raleigh, North Carolina. And what I'm here to ask for is a little help with getting a job. I know the situation in the States right now is a little iffy. I don't know what the economy is looking like. All of that. All of that. I've been spamming job applications. I just haven't heard anything back. So a little bit of my credentials. I studied Business with emphasis in health, admin, and data analytics. So I would like to go into anything related to those things. I have credentials, I have a resume. So if any of the listeners, any of the cousins, if y' all have any of connections in Raleigh, North Carolina, that'd be much appreciated. Thank y' all for listening to my voicemail. Big up to y' all and please keep doing what y' all doing. God bless.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hell yeah, sister. Well, being Benitos.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Shout to my spinnies.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to my super Spaniards. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to the colonizers. Yeah, the conquistadors. Listen, man, if any of the cousins have any. Any way that they could help our. Our fellow cousin here with a. With a. With a job so she can make her transition to the. The great city of Raleigh, North Carolina.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So she can make that transition seamlessly. Please reach out to me on deontay deontaycow.com and we will put that together. Now let's get to these emails. First email. Am I the token black? Oh, well, if you gotta ask. Got a ass, man. I mean, God damn it.

[Poet or Rapper]

Ain't that much getting away in the world.

[Big Cat]

No, you don't get away that much.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, you don't get away that much.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get away that much, man. All right, let's see, let's see, let's see. Look at that name.

[Big Cat]

What it say?

[Deontay Kyle]

That? My brother.

[Big Cat]

What his name is?

[Deontay Kyle]

My brother.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, he just talking black.

[Co-host or Guest]

Oh, my brother.

[Deontay Kyle]

My brother, My brother.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, my brother from over this. Oh, across the pond.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? My motherland brother. Yeah, I'm tell. I'm here to tell you.

[Poet or Rapper]

Yes.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yes, you are. Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't even have to read the email.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Big deontay. Big ice on the neck. Cup cat

[Deontay Kyle]

lay out. Refreshing to see. Oh, this is a sister. Okay, refresh to see a male own podcast not built off bigotry, ignorance, or hate. So I feel like I'm outgrowing my friends. I'm a Nigerian woman. I just turned 20. I was born and raised in a white ass town in England. I. I told you.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I knew she was from across the pond. I knew it was across that pond.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

She in England.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, man, the posh.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The posh.

[Big Cat]

Sorry, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, they eating fizzy wizards.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Brickleberry. Brickleberry. Oh, hold on.

[Deontay Kyle]

Before we get to this email, shout out to these Europeans, man, that's coming

[Big Ice Cupcat]

over here and absolutely killing themselves. God. God damn. God damn. You ain't supposed to eat Wendy's and

[Deontay Kyle]

Chili's in the same day. No, no, no, no, no. Y' all doing it wrong.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, I seen somebody go to Waffle House.

[Caller or Listener]

Uh huh.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And had a foe for fo same day.

[Poet or Rapper]

Damn.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, hey, slow the fuck down, man.

[Big Cat]

Nah, you can't eat it like that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay, slow down.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Please slow down, for the love of God, bruh. Listen, listen, I think they thought we

[Deontay Kyle]

was over here big as hell for nothing.

[Big Cat]

Nah, we big for a reason.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, my nigga, let me tell you. These are not walkable cities. No, these are huge states. A lot of our states is bigger than y' all country. Let's just start there, and then it's not walkable. And then the food is delicious.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's not, it's not.

[Deontay Kyle]

Here, here's the thing. We're not getting fat off of.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

We're having great choices out here.

[Big Cat]

Great meal.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Great meals.

[Deontay Kyle]

A nigga in Atlanta, this went to Wendy's three times one day.

[Poet or Rapper]

Damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm saying. Because they ain't.

[Big Cat]

They ain't got it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Got the access to the chemicals.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

They get a lot of. A lot of this shit get banned.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He's hooked up.

[Big Cat]

He's fiend. He's a fiend.

[Deontay Kyle]

At this point, I. I was scared because I was like, man, if this stumbled into a five guys, he might die.

[Big Cat]

He might die. His. His system will shut down.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Listen, my.

[Deontay Kyle]

One of them, one of them went to Portillo's. Oh, they had a cake shake. I said, man, this is not.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is not.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, man, you got Italian beef.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then you can get a cake.

[Poet or Rapper]

Cake shake.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Listen, man, the cake shake, you gotta.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta go on. You got to go on a 10 day fast after that.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because when I go to Chicago, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, you go.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm split it with somebody. I'm just. Give me a couple sips.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, because that's 12 million calories right there. God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, man, y' all gotta slow down, man, please. First of all, it's beautiful, you know what I'm saying? To watch. It's the one. He's been documenting everything this went to. He went to a buc ee's.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He's like, this is a gas station.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think it can't stay out of Walmart.

[Big Cat]

He loves Walmart.

[Deontay Kyle]

He love it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They never seen no like this, bro.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

They never seen no where you could buy. You could buy a lawnmower.

[Deontay Kyle]

An outfit.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And a brisket in the same place.

[Deontay Kyle]

And you can leave with hot food, cold food.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Soul food.

[Big Cat]

You can leave with everything. Whatever you want, baby. They got it right.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's all in there, bro.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You can leave everything you need. Everything.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, bro, I can imagine that if I was from a place where they didn't have anything equivalent to a Walmart and I walked in a Walmart, I'd be in that all day. It's like a mall.

[Co-host or Guest]

It's a mall. Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I can't get into Sam's Club. Need a membership for that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

They stopped at the door.

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, what type of American wizard?

[Co-host or Guest]

What is this?

[Deontay Kyle]

They got TVs, I got.

[Big Cat]

They got everything. And this one got jewelry. They got everything. You can get a whole pie.

[Deontay Kyle]

This bit, the whole one.

[Big Cat]

Everything.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's all there.

[Co-host or Guest]

Everything.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, listen, man. To that young man. Brush, please. Slow down, bro. Please, brother, please. The had a Chili's triple dipper and then went to. And then. And didn't finish this day. Oh, no, no. The started his day at the Waffle House and went to Chili's and then for lunch. He went to Chili's for lunch? Yes.

[Big Cat]

And got a triple.

[Deontay Kyle]

God damn. He ain't gonna make it.

[Big Cat]

He ain't gonna make it back.

[Deontay Kyle]

So I'm telling you, bro, the World cup go got. Listen, bro, somebody said that them flights back gonna be bubble gut central. I'm telling you, the. The withdrawal period that y' all going to go through, man. From that sugar, bruh.

[Big Cat]

From that sugar alone.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, my God.

[Big Cat]

No. Yeah, I think it's gonna be fiend.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, my God. Hold on, let's see if we can. I wanna. I wanna go. The people. People documenting.

[Big Cat]

Well, let's get the email first.

[Deontay Kyle]

I know, I know, I know. Okay, hold on. All right, all right, all right. We'll get to that in a second. All right. Back to my good sister. So I feel like I'm outgrowing my friends. I'm a Nigerian woman. I just turned 20. I was born and raised in this white ass town in England. And because of this, all of my closest friends are white. I've never had any issues with this or. So I kind of thought. I've been away at uni for two years old. Uni, he's been at uni. And obviously my friends out there are living their lives also, so we strictly catch up over the phone. And something that I've become aware of is the fact that my friends do in fact, see color. It's a It's a.

[Co-host or Guest]

It's a.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's what we call, like. Like to call in America a wake up call.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm not a product of my environment in the slightest. Never have been, never will be. This isn't a situation of. I was a coon and suddenly the ancestors took a hold of me. Trust. All right. She's always been a proud black woman.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to you. One of my friends only ever tells me when she meets a new black person she likes and always says, you guys will get along so well. And I asked her why, and she said, oh, you're both funny. And I. I just know you will. Funny and black is what you mean in it. That's what she said.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Funny and black is what you mean in it.

[Big Cat]

I think I'm a clown.

[Co-host or Guest]

Huh?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Something to laugh.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's what you think about me.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

No, tell me what's so funny.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, what's so funny?

[Deontay Kyle]

She hit us with the in it.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Love you.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, look, bruh, real quick, before we proceed. Love you for that. Love you for that. Authentics. I like the authenticity.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I love this.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You might be one of the few

[Deontay Kyle]

Brits that I could rock with, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I like, you know, this is a Gen Z Brit too, you know?

[Big Cat]

Gen Z Brit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

She 20, right?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, she 20.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Might be a young zoomer.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Either way, funny and black is what you mean in it. Another one. Love her. She's in the streets. She's the 4am team out there filling potholes before morning traffic, you get me? Oh, oh, she is Nigerian, yes.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, that's some Nigerian.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, that's what your mama asked what you're doing outside, what you had a feeling about potholes?

[Co-host or Guest]

Yep.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh, no, she ain't funny, though.

[Big Cat]

Might be some truth to that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I ain't gonna lie. She might have cooked.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, some truth to that.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

The white hog girl, she might know you better than you let,

[Deontay Kyle]

but she only tells me about a guy if he's black. Another one which opened my eyes to her and ripped me to shreds is that she perceived me that way, told me in a calm disagreement between her after I told her I ain't like the way she spoke to me and that she spoke to me in that way to keep me calm because I get angry quick, mind you. First argument we've ever had and I've never had an argument with anyone else around her. And if anybody really knew me, they know that when I'm feeling a negative emotion, I go quiet and won't speak. So how can I get angry with you?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oof.

[Deontay Kyle]

Little projection. Little projection of a stereotype.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Trying to call you an angry black woman.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Do you see what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

We do. Yeah, absolutely. Like, I thought I was their friend who happened to be black, but now I'm feeling like I'm their friend they'll reference and somebody tells them what they said is a little off. The good old, my best friend is black.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Damn it, damn it, damn it, damn it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, yo. Tell you what you got to do.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Your friend the guillotine.

[Deontay Kyle]

I feel like I feel myself outgrowing them, and this is one of the core reasons why. But if I let them go, I have no friends when I'm back home in town. And I've only had, like, real friends for the last three years. I love some advice.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You ain't got the answers, man. You ain't got the answers. You ain't got the answers. You ain't got the answers.

[Poet or Rapper]

Sway

[Big Ice Cupcat]

to the knowledge.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, look, he's bringing out that soundboard, man. Just listen to me right now. When you're going back home, you're having to get on that train.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got to go and go in town. You're gonna find you some black friends, man.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because listen, man, here's the thing.

[Big Cat]

It.

[Poet or Rapper]

It. It.

[Deontay Kyle]

Unfortunately, sometimes it happens in middle school, sometimes it happens in high school, sometimes it happens in young adulthood. Is that these white people just show you their true colors.

[Big Cat]

So they are.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I mean?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And there's nothing worse than feeling like

[Deontay Kyle]

you really know a person because you know who this girl is.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So it's sad because you got to

[Deontay Kyle]

experience real versus her, and then you got. When nobody's around, and then you got to experience the performance that she puts on for the world. Or unfortunately, she's just gotten distant enough and bold enough to show you what her true colors are.

[Big Cat]

Facts.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think that you have outgrown her because she's not growing what she's doing. She's assimilating.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Two different things. Two totally different things. So listen, man. Chin up, bro. All right? Chin up. Last. Chin up.

[Big Cat]

Cheerio.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You got me?

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, man, go find goats.

[Big Cat]

Get on the damn train, man. Birmingham Youngers, what's close to you?

[Deontay Kyle]

London, Birmingham with some that's out here making peas, bro.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man, peas.

[Deontay Kyle]

The youngest.

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Find out where they cook an oxtail.

[Deontay Kyle]

Go to summer house and find you Some real to hang out with, man,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Hop on that train and take a one way trip to summer house and find you some real niggas to hang out with. Yeah, man, but nah, in a real way, you know, Our condolences, bruh. A friendship, especially a lifelong friendship is hard to not only come by but to maintain.

[Poet or Rapper]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And unfortunately it's one of those things where you are in a position where you gotta move on without em. And you know, the unfortunate part as well is that you're dealing with a white woman and she's gonna play the victim. She just tried to call you an angry black woman, which shows that she doesn't even know you on a nuanced and core level. Like she's putting shit on you that ain't even true about your character. So you know, I know this shit hurts. It always hurts to lose a friend. It always hurts when a friend change up on you. But I'm telling you, I like you just through the email.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

So I'm pretty sure, man, you going

[Deontay Kyle]

to find some more friends. And life is beautiful, man. You know, the more we, we get older, we get away from our family. We get to choose our own family, you know what I'm saying? We get to build our own job. And that's in the process. And that's just the process of adulthood. But you're going to be all right. You're going to be all right, my sister. Be easy. And you know, good luck in uni. Okay, here we go. Trying to open Pop's third eye.

[Poet or Rapper]

Damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

O o okay. What's up, big cat and Deontay? First I want to say. Oh, oh shit. Too big. Hey, yo, my bad brother. Hey, yo. First, just want to say I found y' all when I started trade school for automotive technology. Graduated June 3 in the photo below. You guys really helped me believe in myself, the process and the trade. So thank y'. All. I'm writing because my family struggles to engage in conversations about the ongoings in the world in a productive manner. When I bring up something, I'm generally met with some sort of hostility or brushed off. My white stepmom will try to control the conversation. It will be a conversation about race and obviously trying to hear what pops has to say. But she controls the narrative. Your dad, your dad is out here in the snow Bunny hypnosis. He's got the snow bunny psychosis, my brother. My dad and I will sometimes talk after when my stepmom isn't there and he will share his thoughts and he will get into it, but more all together. She'll pull some real white moves and my pops will agree with her. How can I change this? How this goes, my brother? You got to come in there with a black beret on.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I'm getting money now, huh? I go in there and put your car on flats. I'm. I'm the automotive tech in this. Just start doing little their cars.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because then when. When say, hey, man, it's probably because you're racist.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, stuff like with the engine.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And, and.

[Poet or Rapper]

And.

[Deontay Kyle]

And also.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

White lady, let my daddy talk.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got this man on the snow bunny psychosis. You got him under the snow bunny hypnosis.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Look at that young. Look at this young fell.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Oh.

[Deontay Kyle]

What?

[Big Cat]

Who that?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Who that? Didn't they come to the billboard? Didn't they come to the billboard in New York? Am I tripping? Did they come to the billboard? That's them. They came to the billboard in New York.

[Deontay Kyle]

I can't remember, bruh. I'm telling you, you gotta look at them pictures.

[Big Cat]

But if it's them, where they from?

[Deontay Kyle]

Jersey.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Also, man, you gotta stop talking about New Jersey like that and give us some love. But for real, we gave y' all Ms. Lauryn Hill, Michael B. Jordan, Queen Latifah, Jalen Brunson and Cat, we got. But y' all don't know because some racist ass suburban sprawl stopped us from being a major metropolitan. Anyways, love, y'. All keep doing your thing. I don't know if y' all will see this, but I forgot to say, bro, I got a job. Two days after I finished classes, y'

[Big Ice Cupcat]

all go get a damn trade and a motherfucking skill. Hey, we put a lot of cream in the streets. Maybe the traits get you a trade, sir.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, that's them.

[Big Cat]

That's them.

[Deontay Kyle]

I know it is. Ok, well, shout out to y' all because y' all came, so. So congratulations, first of all. And shout out to y' all because they came when we invited the Patreon cousins to the billboard, they pulled up.

[Big Cat]

I think I do.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I remember them.

[Big Cat]

I think I do remember them.

[Deontay Kyle]

I remember them.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, look, man, you know. Yeah, I got the pictures. You got the pictures?

[Big Cat]

You got the pictures, son?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, man, don't forget.

[Deontay Kyle]

We got the file.

[Big Cat]

We got the files, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, don't worry about it. We kept the files. That was in December, right?

[Co-host or Guest]

Yes.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, yo. Hey, yo.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man, we got that trade.

[Deontay Kyle]

I got that trade. One guy. How much jizz off yeah, man. A G, O, B Automotive. That's what I'm talking about. How much Gob.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah. He got.

[Big Cat]

He's doing his thing,

[Deontay Kyle]

man. Hold on, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But I can't sleep through the night.

[Deontay Kyle]

Damn, bro. It's a lot of pictures in there.

[Big Cat]

A lot of joints. I'm.

[Deontay Kyle]

But I remember. I. I just. I do remember. I remember them, okay? I remember them. I never forget a face. One thing about me, not gonna forget a face. Those people came to see us when we was in New York and they. They came to see our billboard. Yeah, man, shout out to y', all, bro. Appreciate y', all, bro. That's. That's crazy. That's crazy.

[Big Cat]

Love some of the light skinned couple, right?

[Co-host or Guest]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yes, that's them.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Absolutely, my brother.

[Caller or Listener]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Absolutely. Shout out to y', all, man. I can't find the pictures right now, but I know it was y'. All.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the light skin couple.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Damn, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's zoom in real quick. Zoom in.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, that's them.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You can't forget those faces.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, that's them.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's them.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Those beautiful light skinned fellas.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And that young lady. Yeah, you can't forget them.

[Big Cat]

Great light skinned couple days.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man, Beautiful.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

All the times square, cold as hell with us just freezing with us celebrating.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Yeah, man, you can't forget them.

[Deontay Kyle]

I never forget them.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, shout out to y', all, bro. Hey, man, shout out. You getting that gig?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man, shout out.

[Deontay Kyle]

He said that when he was in New York, that he was in school. So, man, shout out to you, bro. Shout out, man, you and your old lady, man. Shout out to y', all, man. Hey, man, go get your job, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Get that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Marry the young lady. Have a family.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Move down south.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, move to South Jersey now.

[Big Cat]

Move down south, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, yeah. Hell yeah.

[Big Cat]

Come down south.

[Deontay Kyle]

A lot of cars in South Carolina, man.

[Big Cat]

A lot of cars.

[Co-host or Guest]

A lot of junk.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, hey, worst case scenario, pack all your up and bring it. First of all, it's gonna be very hard to change a white woman from New Jersey.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Not from Jersey. First of all, I'm not a racist.

[Deontay Kyle]

I just don't like moolies.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, there's some good ones out here.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I mean, it's a good one. You're a good one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Some good ones out here.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You're a good one.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, how am I racist?

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm this black guy.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, what are we talking?

[Big Cat]

What Are we talking about?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, love the dick, not the people.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Poet or Rapper]

All right.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What up though?

[Deontay Kyle]

Hold on, let's see. Big Bad Dollar Bill. That was a hell of a name.

[Big Cat]

Big Bad Dollar Bill.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm a creative.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, look. We done flipped the token on his head. Why be a token? Well, he could be a Big bad dollar bill. Starting Africa a long, long time ago.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

What up though?

[Deontay Kyle]

Deontay and Big Cat just finished episode 152 of Grits and Eggs. The conversation around the Cyrus Carmack Belton verdict and the call for strategic boycotting hit home. The point about financial withdrawal being more powerful than physical unrest is real. And the push to not just boycott, but actually build black owned infrastructure that people can run to is the move. That's exactly the work I do. We're gonna have to put that Big Bad Dollar Bill episode on my goddamn vinyl.

[Big Cat]

Hey, you might have to. That's the next one. No, this one's.

[Deontay Kyle]

The next one is the one with the carrots. We already got the design. I gotta show you the designs. Is fire. Okay, I need to call them people sometime this week too.

[Big Cat]

Okay, get that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get that in motion.

[Caller or Listener]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

We got updated. It was only 100. They went so fast. We're gonna do 250 this time. Gonna do 250 this time.

[Caller or Listener]

250.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, hey. And we got some merch. We got bundles.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We're gonna bundle it.

[Big Cat]

Bundle.

[Co-host or Guest]

Deal.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We got bundles.

[Co-host or Guest]

Hey, good.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Bundle, bundle.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's official. Gris and eggs carrots collab. You know how we do bigger and better, better and bigger.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is exactly the work I do.

[Caller or Listener]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

I am a digital marketing strategist and media creator out of Raleigh.

[Big Cat]

Shout out to Raleigh.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, brother. Synchronicity, son. She's going to be okay.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I work specifically with growing black owned brands that have product and the vision, but needed the back end. Clean conversion systems, editorial level, visuals and marketing infrastructure that runs without burning out the founder. I might need this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think we all need that.

[Deontay Kyle]

We all need. The redirect only works if the business people are ready. No, the redirect only works if the businesses people are running are ready. This means showing up professionally online, converting new traffic, getting found in local search, and building the kind of reputation that earns five star reviews organically. When those pieces aren't in place, the movement loses momentum. And what do we say? You know, a movement without a plan is just a trend. I love to talk through whether there's a way to support the brands in your network, whether that's auditing infrastructure for directory partners like Miria. And I got to connect to him. Let me get him. Let me, let me, let me. I'm gonna get that. I'm put y' all together.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

And to put something behind any black owned business in your network that wants to know where they stand in local search, send them my way for a free local SEO audit. No pitch, no strings, Just making sure the infrastructure is ready.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

When the community shows up. Continue the great work.

[Deontay Kyle]

Signing out, cuz. O J K, the founder of inside leads.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, founder.

[Big Cat]

Hey, the founder.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, the founder.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you got a business, what we doing? Cuz I know if I type in grits. Let's, let's, let's see where we at with this sel. Yeah, type in grits.

[Big Cat]

Just type in grits, dog. There it is.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay. Just grits.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, just grits.

[Deontay Kyle]

Go get the food.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, grits will get you food.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's see how long, how long we got to scroll until we can get to grits and eggs Podcast.

[Big Cat]

Not just off grits.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was trying to see if we was bossed up like that. But I will say this. Grits and eggs. Oh, podcast. Oh, Grits and eggs is a classic southern carbonation. Let's keep going. Let's go on.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And boom.

[Poet or Rapper]

Right away.

[Big Cat]

There we are.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Deontaycom.com Join the conversation now. Good SEO, organic SEO.

[Deontay Kyle]

We ain't playing.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

We ain't playing the CEO. I'm the CEO of this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Huh?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man. Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just sorry guys. Listen, listen, man. If you have a black owned business and you want to know where you stand, holla at my man son.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Huh?

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Inside leads here.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's go, let's go. Let's go to this website. You gotta getinsideleads.com.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

you can listen. Book a free consult book. It's right there on the website. Tristan, edit this in everybody. All you niggas with businesses, huh?

[Deontay Kyle]

And you trying to set yourself up,

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Shout out to my nigga from area.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'mma connect you with this nigga

[Big Ice Cupcat]

personally.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

But anybody has a black owned business,

[Deontay Kyle]

go to getinsideleads.com and book a free consultation. It's that easy.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

It's that simple.

[Deontay Kyle]

It can happen today. He's going to look out for you. Tell him deontay and big ice cupcats.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Big ice cup. When you go type in the subject bar. Big bad dollar bill.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

He's gonna know exactly what you said.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but shout out to you, my brother.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And this is the. And you know, since he is the founder. This is John Carnegie. John. Big John.

[Big Cat]

Big John. Big John.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

J.K. rowling.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Rolling in the dope. Getting my leads.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, man. All right, all right. Well, today was a good day. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Ice Cube.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Anytime you have a great day like this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, anytime you get a triple double at the park, son.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Son.

[Co-host or Guest]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? I mean, God damn, man, he didn't even have to use an 8K.

[Big Cat]

It was a good day.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Today was a good day.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I ain't even. You know what? For me, personally, I ain't even have

[Deontay Kyle]

to use my ak. Damn.

[Big Cat]

Damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Today. Today was a good day.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

You are. Damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

If it wasn't for monetization. God damn.

[Big Cat]

Now we need it. We need them duckets.

[Deontay Kyle]

We need the ducks.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Touring is expensive.

[Big Cat]

Bam.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let me see. Oh, Sonic. I incur all the costs, B. Yeah, man, I'm saying, I gotta make sure can ride Dolo State.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So this has been Grizzly's podcast, episode 154. Hey, we back on the evens for the solo. Even. Even Solo.

[Big Cat]

Even.

[Deontay Kyle]

Steven, if it's. If it's a. If it's an even episode, it should be a solo. Yeah, if it's odd episode, it's gonna be a guest.

[Poet or Rapper]

Hey,

[Deontay Kyle]

man, I'm so glad we got less than 100 of these left to do, man.

[Poet or Rapper]

You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host or Guest]

It's just hip hop.

[Big Cat]

It's just.

[Caller or Listener]

You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host or Guest]

It's just my.

[Big Cat]

It's just rats, man.

[Poet or Rapper]

Turn me up, man. It's just rap.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, my bad. We just. All right, you know, I'm. I'm. God damn, man. You know, who gonna bring the news to the people if it's not us, man?

[Big Cat]

Who was gonna do it, man?

[Deontay Kyle]

Who gonna keep the informed, man?

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Who gonna get leads?

[Deontay Kyle]

Who gonna do it, huh, if it ain't us? Listen, this is what I want to do. This is my plan.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I want to get together 10 to

[Deontay Kyle]

15 of these businessmen, entrepreneurs in Atlanta. And we either get a centralized location, which I don't think works because centralized location can be just a kitchen. But I want to get five to 10 food trucks that'll pull up in the hoods or pull up in low income communities and give breakfast out to these babies for free. Yeah, I think, you know, and as Far as the metro in Douglasville, Riverdale, Forest Park, Covington, and then all in the inner city, west side, south side, east side. And we do that and we deploy and listen. There's a lot of black business owners. There's a lot of black business owners that are chefs. There's a lot of black restaurants that would probably be willing to help. And if we could create a schedule and a rotation, if we had seven restaurants that was willing to take one day a week on a rotation to make a. To make a meal that could feed. Let's just start out conservatively. 150 to 200 kids. This is what the Panthers knew. The Panthers knew about the hierarchy of needs.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

And not only would we be feeling

[Deontay Kyle]

children, but we'd be feeling adults. There is no revolution on the empty stomach. I'm gonna tell you something right now. What they understood is that there is a hierarchy of needs. And food, water and shelter are at the very bottom of that. You want people to participate in a boycott that starving, trying to struggle how to. You know, I'm just telling you. I ain't making no excuse for nobody. I'm just saying there is a hierarchy in these. It's a lot of rich in Atlanta.

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

If we gotta start the.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

Hey, listen. Hey, listen.

[Deontay Kyle]

If we gotta start the 5001 3C and it's just grits and eggs and they send it to us because Greason Eggs is gonna feed the babies, we got the voice.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I ain't got as much money as a lot of you, but that's okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

I got the voice, I got the reach and I got the mentality.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

If you want these kids to be

[Deontay Kyle]

trained up the right way, they gotta eat.

[Co-host or Guest]

Gotta eat.

[Deontay Kyle]

The Panthers knew this.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

This is. Hey.

[Deontay Kyle]

The government took over the free food program. The government took over Women Infants and Children. And WIC became a federally funded program that was started by the Black Panther Party because they know how important it is for people to have their needs met. And they want to control who met those needs. Because the people who control who meets the needs, the people who control the needs being met also control the narrative that's being sent. If we can control the. If we can control the needs, then we can control the message. If it's black people feeding you when you in a time of need, when the fuck is you ever not gonna be down the ride for black people? This what they know. And that's why y' all stay caping for this fucking racist ass fuck ass government is cause they feed you niggas. They know it. And they get to control the narrative cause they control your needs. So you know, just some food for thought. No pun intended. This has been episode 154. I am your host, Deontay Kyle. But who's behind the camera?

[Big Cat]

Free Carmelo Anthony Big Ice Club cat.

[Big Ice Cupcat]

I just wanna rap.

[Deontay Kyle]

I just wanna that just.

[Poet or Rapper]

Yeah. They say without the proper labor, faith don't stand a chance. I put my faith in faith and stand on fertile land. I planted seeds that'll indeed turn into trees be forest and peace. Peace teas get printed to me unless impeded. Matter of fact, that got me thinking back when Mr. Love was tending to his garden, schooling me to annuity before he grabbed his clubs to go golfing. And it's no coincidence that doe still had the caddy back when woods were still the best. Don't let me roll off course here, Georgie. Pops was dropping gems while I was lighting cigs. But you know, I too was listening with both ears. You see, that's the best that I can do. Wisdom is the application of knowledge. I was picking up what he was putting down. Just wasn't applying it. I ain't denying it. Nah, maybe I was too busy trying to find the balance between religion and science. Trying to get to the bottom of everything while being the highest. Like a pilot's roots. Am I right, brother? Cause I was simultaneously relaying it through reason and rhyming that I sought for us dissecting systems responsible for our imprisonment. The visionary with astigmatism and scarred courting us. If love is blind, then what am I? You can't fight fate. That's why.

[Co-host or Guest]

So.