Episode 167 - What Good Nature?!?!

Summary

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Grits and Eggs Podcast – Episode 167: "What Good Nature?!?!"

Host: Deante’ Kyle

Date: August 4, 2026

Main Theme:
Deante’ Kyle returns raw and unfiltered, diving into current events, the intersections of pop culture and race, and community issues with a signature Southern flavor and plenty of humor. This episode probes the dangers of “appealing to good nature,” especially in the context of racial injustice, community accountability, and the pitfalls of respectability politics.

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Episode Overview

With co-host Big Cat and crew (Big Ice Cub Cat, Guest Rapper), Deante’ covers the latest updates on community projects, reflects on fatherhood and Black joy, unpacks several racially charged criminal cases, and fields heartfelt listener calls. The episode’s unifying question: “What good nature?”—highlighting skepticism towards the myth of American fairness and the need for proactive truth-telling and community defense.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Announcements, Community Updates & Black Fatherhood

(00:52–08:51)

• Show returns post-break, merch/tour updates: New Grist and Eggs University details coming; Patreon includes exclusive streams and access (04:41–05:11; 71:06–73:55).
  • “What we do on the Patreon: two streams and two bonus episodes a month...early access to all new merch...live show or vinyl release.” – Deante’ (04:41)
• Family business and responsibility: Deante’ shares about his son's upcoming first year in high school, academic/family expectations, and the importance of family meetings.
  • “Treat your family like a business. Meet with your children. Check in not just over dinner...at the family meeting.” – Deante’ (11:36)
• On fatherhood: Family stories blend humor and realness—kids' activities, evictions, and adjusting to new routines.

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2. The Nolan Wells and Kendrick Johnson Cases: Racialized Injustice in America

(14:50–29:59)

• Nolan Wells Case Update: Outrage over lack of arrests after the Black teen was found dead; evidence of cover-up and disinterest from authorities.

  • “They are determined clearly to sweep this under the rug...they’re trying to bury it in the day-to-day news cycle.” – Deante’ (16:13)
  • Emphasizes the double standard in response to threats and violence, especially when those involved are connected or white.
  • Notable Quote: “If Nolan Wells drowns...they would have found water in his lungs, and they did not. If Nolan Wells drowns...there’s no reason to remove the throat.” - Deante’ (21:32)

• Kendrick Johnson Case Parallel: Uncovers the similarities in institutional response—a Black teen found dead, with officials ruling the death accidental despite evidence; family sues federal judges for cover-up (19:02).

  • “If your body is rolled up in a wrestling mat, how is that an accident?” – Deante’ (17:49)

• Historical Cycles & White Supremacy: The system is designed to excuse white violence against Black bodies; community is urged not to "appeal to good nature."

  • “These murders are not only ritualistic, but it's necessary that they cover them up, because they cannot create a precedent of white people being held accountable...” – Deante’ (32:07)
  • Extended analogy to sundown towns and historic lynchings.

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3. Appealing to “Good Nature” – A Dead End for Black America

(29:59–38:25)

• Calling out fence-sitting and assimilation: Deante’ and crew critique those Black folks who attempt to stay “in the middle” to remain comfortable in American culture.

  • “There’s no more straddling the fence. There’s no known play in the middle.” – Deante’ (24:44)

• Respectability vs. Survival:

  • Discusses why, in cases like Nolan Wells’, trying to see “no color” or play to white empathy is ineffective—survival means choosing a side.
  • “All that in the middle ass shit, you gotta get the fuck out the way. If you in the middle, I' ma assume you on their side.” – Deante’ (37:01)

• Real Talk on Parenting:

  • “The Nolan Wells conversation—it’s not about a Nolan Wells convo. It's a don't send your fucking son on a trip by himself with 12 white people in the mountains for two weeks in North Carolina.” – Deante’ (28:01)

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4. Culture Wars, Black Masculinity, & Media Manipulation

(38:25–52:11)

• Changing narratives about Black youth:

  • Pushback against the idea that young Black men now are “more dangerous”—actually, data shows modern youth are less violent, but social media distorts perceptions.
  • “Our young men aren't as dangerous as the young men were 30, 40 years ago.” – Deante’ (43:00)
  • The media and music industries reinforce negative models of Black masculinity (e.g., “Paid in Full,” “Boys in the Hood” vs. “The Wood”).

• Algorithmic Outrage and Echo Chambers:

  • "The algorithm is not data. The algorithm is a feedback loop and often an echo chamber of your interest." – Deante’ (50:21)
  • Calls to reject “addiction to anger and outrage”; urges community to focus their attention and energy strategically.

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5. Respectability Politics: Dress Codes, Dissent, and Community Sovereignty

(57:51–67:33)

• Tuskegee Ban on Bonnets & Durags:

  • Debate on respectability vs. tradition vs. anti-Blackness.
  • “If you want me to keep an end of a bargain, you got to keep an end of the bargain. This is where student unions come into play.” – Deante’ (59:04)
  • Dress code is seen as a slippery slope, possibly leading to more restrictions; urges Black people to protect their “crown” (hair) and traditions.

• Binary Thinking as White Supremacy:

  • “It can’t be just one thing or the other, that’s white people shit. One of the tenets of white supremacy is binary thinking.” – Deante’ (62:39)

• Ghetto Aesthetics:

  • Reclaiming the aesthetics and language associated with low-income Black communities.
  • “We’re not going to attach degenerate to ghetto. We’re not going to do that.” – Deante’ (67:18)

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6. Black Joy as Resistance & Attention as Currency

(68:56–71:05)

• Joy as a tool:
  • “They want to keep you addicted to anger and outrage because Black joy is the enemy of white supremacy.” – Deante’ (68:58)
• Guarding your attention:
  • Attention is “currency” in the digital age; focus it on building, not on haters or thieves.

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7. Community Building: Grits and Eggs University & Listener Engagement

(71:06–101:12)

Grist and Eggs University Launch

(71:06–75:55)

• Announcement of a comprehensive online school centering Black studies and empowerment—self-accredited, exclusive, and accessible.
  • “We want to do something to suit black people, that’s for black people, that’s by black people.” – Deante’ (72:49)

Listener Voicemails: Community Stories & Mutual Aid

(76:14–99:09)

• Listeners seek advice, share achievements, and request/supply resources:
  • Highlight on mutual aid (helping a listener recover from a car accident via GoFundMe) (82:44).
  • Work-from-home job networking for a pregnant mother.
  • Shout-outs to Black professionals (nutritionist “Body by Snap”—87:50, business/accounting grads, etc.).
  • Extended therapy and family boundary discussions for callers navigating complex home lives.
    • “I think it’s extremely brave of you at 22 years old to not only recognize that, but to make the step to distance yourself, to choose peace.” – Deante’ (98:09)

Memorable/Cultural Moments

• Running anecdote: “Don’t yuck my yams”—an inside joke about mutual respect and not letting others “hate” on your preferences (89:27).
• Endnotes: Encouragement to join Patreon for radical knowledge and “Grits n University” (99:22-100:41).

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Notable Quotes & Moments By Timestamp

• “Treat your family like a business. Meet with your children.” – Deante’ (11:36)
• “High school is the start of a lot of memories … Sometimes people’s crowning achievements happen in high school.” – Deante’ (07:14)
• “These murders are not only ritualistic, but it’s necessary that they cover them up…” – Deante’ (32:07)
• “What good nature are we appealing to? ... Are we appealing to the judges that provide aid, comfort and relief and help cover up these murders?” – Big Ice Cub Cat (33:10)
• “You changed the diet, you change the spiritual diet, you change the child.” – Deante’ (47:45)
• “The algorithm is not data. The algorithm is a feedback loop…” – Deante’ (50:21)
• “If you’re in the middle, I’ma assume you on their side.” – Deante’ (37:01)
• “Binary thinking is white supremacist mindset. It doesn’t have to be one thing or the other. It can be many things.” – Deante’ (62:39)
• “Because black joy is the enemy of white supremacy. They don’t want to see you happy.” – Deante’ (68:58)
• “Please, for the love of God, don’t yuck my yams…” – Big Ice Cub Cat (89:37)
• “I think it’s extremely brave of you at 22 years old to … choose peace. So be proud of yourself, stick to your guns …” – Deante’ (98:09)
• “We want to do something to suit black people, that’s for black people, that’s by black people.” – Deante’ (72:49)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------------------------|------------| | Announcements, merch, family check-in | 00:52–08:51| | Nolan Wells/Kendrick Johnson cases & white supremacy cycles | 14:50–38:25| | “Good Nature” discussion, fence-sitting, dangers for Black youth | 24:42–38:25| | Black masculinity, media/misrepresentation, data vs. media | 38:25–52:11| | Respectability politics, dress codes, binary thinking | 57:51–67:33| | Black joy, attention as currency | 68:56–71:05| | Grits and Eggs University launch | 71:06–75:55| | Listener calls: support, careers, community | 76:14–101:12| | Family boundaries, self-care advice | 92:00–99:09| | Wrap-up, humor, calls to action | 99:22–100:41|

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Takeaways

• Reject the myth of “good nature.” Root your actions in history, not empty hope. Don’t straddle the fence when it comes to justice or community.
• Protect Black joy and direct your attention to what builds community power, not what drains it.
• Support and accountability: Check in with family, embrace difficult boundaries, and use resources to uplift each other.
• Build and own Black institutions: From mutual aid to Black-centered universities, sovereignty and self-determination are essential.
• Balance tradition and progress: It’s not ‘either/or’—community progress requires critical, nuanced conversations.

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For Listeners

Don’t yuck nobody’s yams, do the knowledge, and join the movement—online and offline. Grits and Eggs Podcast is building more than a show—it’s a community that refuses to settle for crumbs or appeal to a system built against them.

To get involved/submissions/Patreon:
Visit deantekyle.com and check the Patreon, Discord, and upcoming Grits and Eggs University.

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End of Episode 167 Summary

Transcript

[Guest Rapper]

Yeah.

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[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Oh, we back.

[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

The biggest.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

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[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

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[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

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[Deontay Cow]

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[Big Ice Cub Cat]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

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[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

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[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

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[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

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[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

you just about to stand. That's you right now. You on your back right now.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Co-host Big Cat]

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[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

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[Big Ice Cub Cat]

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[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

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[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

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[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

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[Big Ice Cub Cat]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

We see you like.

[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

Who knows?

[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

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[Big Ice Cub Cat]

We'll.

[Deontay Cow]

We'll be there soon and then damn near till next June.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

She's Your queen to be

[Co-host Big Cat]

type.

[Guest Rapper]

Yeah.

[Co-host Big Cat]

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[Deontay Cow]

See what I'm saying? We coming.

[Co-host Big Cat]

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[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Ah, you too.

[Guest Rapper]

You.

[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And you know, whatever you choose. You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Cow]

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[Big Ice Cub Cat]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Get a little messy at the end.

[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

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[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

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[Deontay Cow]

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[Big Ice Cub Cat]

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[Guest Rapper]

We.

[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Could be six weeks, could be eight weeks. Could be 12 weeks. Just know we working.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah,

[Deontay Cow]

I. I believe. You know, for me, that's all I got, buddy. What you got?

[Co-host Big Cat]

That's all you got? Listen, man, if you want your song played on Instagram, on big cat's page, DM me, man. I break your song for 60, 000 people. I attack my man. He got a lot of followers over there. We hear your song, baby. It got to be fire though. Don't sit no craziness to me.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

I mean we're gonna. We will.

[Deontay Cow]

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[Co-host Big Cat]

It ain't new Music Mondays, but hey, we're giving you something.

[Deontay Cow]

We give you something and you know New Music Mondays will return One day.

[Co-host Big Cat]

One day.

[Deontay Cow]

One day. We got, we got BUU stuff going on. Big Cat is a full time DJ. He's DJing.

[Co-host Big Cat]

I'm DJing.

[Deontay Cow]

He's DJing, man. DJ Big Ice Cuff.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Hey, yo. Big Ice Cuff,

[Co-host Big Cat]

yo.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

I

[Deontay Cow]

have had a pretty moderate week.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Yeah, we, we, we easing our way

[Deontay Cow]

back into the work week

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

still.

[Deontay Cow]

You know, I'm just. Now, look, I will say this on the last. For the last four or five days, 7:30, I've been waking up. 7:30 on the dot. No alarm clock.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Cow]

I. And I noticed that if I do choose the snooze 9 o', clock, I give me another hour and a half. So we working our way back. Kids go back to school this week.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

So regardless of whether I want to or not, 5:45, you got to get up, you got to be up. You know what I mean? We got, we got a. We got a freshman this year.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Got a freshman.

[Deontay Cow]

Man, I went to the orientation the other day.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah. How was it?

[Deontay Cow]

Just. Just a bunch of damn kids, bro.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, that's it.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

It's.

[Deontay Cow]

It's exciting to see because this is the thing. High school is where a lot of it started. When, when, even when people get into adulthood. Some, the people that they know from their childhood, they talk about high school. Sometimes people's crowning achievements happen in high school. Yeah, sometimes. You never. You, you remember when that game, when I run back two punt returns.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

You know what I'm saying? Never did it since.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Never did it again.

[Deontay Cow]

Never did it.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Never ran back another punt return in his life, sir. But the two in one game. Yeah. Man retired Jersey after that.

[Deontay Cow]

Son of legends. He a special teams legend.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Retired New Jersey. Nobody in the history of the school's ever there too. Not in the game.

[Deontay Cow]

Shot at X factor.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

You know what I'm saying? And they still talk about it. Man. We had a guy. Special teams. I'mma tell you when you do it right. I had a guy run two TDs back. I'm two punched.

[Co-host Big Cat]

You put a hat on the hat.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Get that block right.

[Co-host Big Cat]

We running them back all night. Put a hat on the hat, baby. You gotta put a hat on the hat.

[Deontay Cow]

And now this same man. You could bet on him on Kelsey at 37U. Still running back 37 he still ain't got two in one game.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Haven't even came close, baby.

[Deontay Cow]

Not even any run back one.

[Co-host Big Cat]

37.

[Deontay Cow]

You, man at 37. You serious? Serious, man. I got caught up, bro. I'mma tell y' all something, bro. You got to stay off. You got to stay out that reels, and you got to stay out that Tick tock.

[Co-host Big Cat]

At the 11:00pm yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

At the 11:00pm it's a seismic shift.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

It's a shift in consciousness. First of all, you might go. You might go down a. You might go down a crazy rap.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah. Ill rabbit hole on tick tocks.

[Deontay Cow]

You might be somewhere you ain't never want to.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah. I end up here. Why do I notice?

[Deontay Cow]

Bruh, you gotta start not interested. Get this out my outfit.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Get wicked. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

And then you. Then every now and then, you run into a 37U.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah. A 37U.

[Deontay Cow]

Rabbit hole turn.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Make you go to the page number 37.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

You highlight.

[Co-host Big Cat]

That's it.

[Deontay Cow]

A lot of grown men getting injured

[Co-host Big Cat]

more they got to go to work.

[Deontay Cow]

Next day that work. He worked concrete.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

He gotta go run that truck.

[Guest Rapper]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

He done tore his ACL to the AC playing around with you.

[Co-host Big Cat]

He can't even tell his job. He told. He gotta wait till he get to work and sit by the truck.

[Deontay Cow]

He can't tell him he did it at the 37. Jesse Davis.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Yeah.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Sit by pro football legend.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Oh.

[Deontay Cow]

But I say that to say this, man. High school is the start of a lot of memories because it's like, you know, he has friends and he got the buddy got his badge.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Got a locker.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

You know, I'm saying he got a pretty sweet first semester.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Okay. Okay.

[Deontay Cow]

He excited. You know what I'm saying? We excited. It ain't the county. No, no.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Cow]

Alexander.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Okay. Okay.

[Deontay Cow]

But you know, we stay off in the cut.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

And that's what happened when you used

[Co-host Big Cat]

to have a cut. Yeah. Cut go to Alexander. Yeah. They go to Alexander. Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Stay in the woods.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah. For sure. Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

It ain't a living in an apartment going out.

[Co-host Big Cat]

No.

[Deontay Cow]

It ain't no apartment and no apartments.

[Co-host Big Cat]

No.

[Deontay Cow]

That is that.

[Co-host Big Cat]

You say that. God damn. That is true.

[Deontay Cow]

I'm telling you, son.

[Co-host Big Cat]

That is true.

[Deontay Cow]

It's not a. That go to that school that live in an apartment. They live in an apartment.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Damn, you right. Ain't no apartments in the vicinity of this goddamn school. Damn.

[Deontay Cow]

You need the cars, man.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

So that's the deal. We, we. We.

[Patreon Member Caller]

We.

[Deontay Cow]

We. We. We baking a cake, you know, I'm saying be 15.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

In September. So, like, hey, man, we can get that learners.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

But depending on how you do this first year. As far as academics.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Behavior and responsibility.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

You know what I'm saying? Just responsibility around house.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

We've been tightening up. We've been having the family meetings once a week. It's been love, man. Had one today, man. Meet with your man. Meet with your people, bro. Treat your family like a business. Meet with your children. Check in not just over dinner. You got to eat dinner with your kids, too. But check in with them at the family meeting.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

See.

[Deontay Cow]

See how they feel about the structure.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

You know what I'm saying? I asked my kids, I was like, you remember that one time? You remember we got evicted that one time? How did y' all feel about that? They was like, we didn't know what was going on.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

We just know.

[Deontay Cow]

One day we lived here, the next day we stayed with our uncle.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Life isn't short. He shouldn't be so rough.

[Co-host Big Cat]

No, it shouldn't be rough, sir.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah. So now. Yeah, now. Now the conversation is a little different. I'm giving an ease of access, you know what I'm saying?

[Co-host Big Cat]

You should.

[Deontay Cow]

But I got the stair steps, man. I got the guy down. High school, middle school, elementary school.

[Co-host Big Cat]

That you do. Yeah. That you do. God damn. You got one in every level. Jesus. Jesus. You gotta meet at every level.

[Deontay Cow]

I gotta know. Three different administrations, three different principles, three different vice principles, and goddamn, three different homeroom teachers, basically.

[Co-host Big Cat]

It'd be all right, though. That has. He'd be all right.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

It'd be cool.

[Deontay Cow]

I mean, he. He seemed excited about it. He was like. He was like, this school bigger? Hell, yeah. Like, yeah. Target ain't doing cross country too. What?

[Listener Caller]

Word?

[Guest Rapper]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Cause, you know, he boxing.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Cow]

So I was thinking about, for cardio, all the boxers, that's what they do. They run, they gotta. You gotta have your wind up.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

And so already at the school, like, you know the parking. Do you know where the new gym move?

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yes, I do.

[Deontay Cow]

The gym.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, I do.

[Patreon Member Caller]

So they.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

He.

[Deontay Cow]

He make them run around that parking lot.

[Co-host Big Cat]

That's a big parking lot.

[Deontay Cow]

Boy, that one lap, one lap, like half a mile, if not one.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah. That's a big parking lot. It is a big parking lot.

[Deontay Cow]

It's a big parking lot. So think about laying that out in a straight damn, probably three, four of miles.

[Patreon Member Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

And they all got to run it three times. So I was like, well, you already technically doing cross country. My. So go put you in that your condition is going to be crazy.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, great conditioning, good win on the young man.

[Deontay Cow]

Great win.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, man,

[Deontay Cow]

I got to get close.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, you got to get. Yeah, you going. Have to sneak. You have to surprise attack. He got surprise attack, man. Yeah, man.

[Deontay Cow]

Take him to deep water.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, you gotta take him deep water for sure. You gotta take him to deep water. Yeah, take him to deep water. Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Gotta get him off his feet.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah. Does he get up on you? Oh, my God.

[Patreon Member Caller]

Oh.

[Deontay Cow]

I'm here. Trying this to be Roy Jones Jr doing?

[Co-host Big Cat]

No. Training your damn self.

[Deontay Cow]

I got no wins.

[Co-host Big Cat]

You know you ain't got no win. I know he got no win. He gonna get you smoking cigarettes. Oh, he gonna get you.

[Deontay Cow]

Flick that in his face.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Back out on you, son.

[Co-host Big Cat]

That is. Chill out.

[Deontay Cow]

All right.

[Co-host Big Cat]

All right, man.

[Deontay Cow]

Gotta have fun. Cause we know it gets deep.

[Co-host Big Cat]

It does get deep.

[Deontay Cow]

All right, so update in the Nolan Wells case. So Joseph Alfredo Vasquez Dumarsi was arrested and he is a California resident. So he was arrested and charged for transmission of threatening communication against Judge Ashley Cole, AKA one of the not yet named suspects. But suspects. This is the stepmother who is also a judge.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

No arrest made for the hundreds of

[Deontay Cow]

death threats received and made to Christine Wells Weasley, who is Nolan Wells mother. No arrests even made, though it's clear from that audio that Nolan was choked to death.

[Listener Caller]

Mm.

[Deontay Cow]

Medical examiner, second autopsy. Throat missing, discoloration to the back of the head. Sound like. Yeah, yeah, that's what it sound like to me. And I. And I'm no expert, I'm no forensic expert. So no arrest made out of the hundreds of death threats made to his mother. And still no arrest made in the case. And they are determined clearly to sweep this under the rug. They are trying to get less and less people to talk about this every day. They're trying to run.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

They trying to.

[Deontay Cow]

They trying to bury it in the. The day to day news cycle, which we know social media kind of runs almost parallel to corporate media news cycles these days. But again, rest in peace, Nolan Wells and arrest everyone involved. We gonna. Hey, look, man, it's gonna be. And then when it all said and done, it's gonna be me and Nancy. Yeah, we're gonna be the only ones left. But we're not moving on from this because we do have a situation that happened in 2013 with a young man named Kendrick Johnson out of Valdosta, Georgia. Kendrick Johnson and Valdosta, Georgia. Now, on July 11, 2013, the body of Kendrick Lamar Johnson, an American high school student, was discovered inside a vertical rolled up gym mat. In the gymnasium. In the gymnasium of Lowndes High School, which he attended in Valdosta, Georgia. Lowndes County. At the preliminary investigation, autopsy concluded Johnson's death was accidental. His family hired a private pathologist to conduct a second octasi which concluded that he died from blunt force trauma. Now, let me ask just one question. If your body is rolled up in a wrestling mat, how is that an accident?

[Co-host Big Cat]

It's not.

[Deontay Cow]

You could barely roll yourself good into, like, into a good, bad burrito, you know what I'm saying? You can barely get the coverage. Just.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

It take a little.

[Deontay Cow]

It takes some. It takes some time just for you to get it right. Get your feet all the way tucked in the way you want it. Yeah, yeah.

[Listener Caller]

And then.

[Guest Rapper]

And then.

[Deontay Cow]

Do you know how fucking heavy a gym a wrestling mat is? And do you know how it takes two, sometimes three? Okay, so this death was ruled accident.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

It was.

[Deontay Cow]

It was making rounds on social media.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Obviously fell out of the news cycle. Obviously swept under the rug. Obviously covered up because two of the individuals were related to some pretty powerful people.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

In Lowndes County. And we see the same thing at play here. And with Ocean Springs, Mississippi, we. We already have a judge that's involved. And we don't know what the fathers of these fathers and mothers of these other boys do, but we know that they may be pretty privileged, white people especially. They have a boat. So it's some money involved.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

But an update in the Kendrick Johnson case, which his parents refused to sweep under the rug. And we will not sweep it under the rug here, just like we're not going to sweep, sweep the Nolan rugs, Nolan Wells case under the rug. On March S. On March 6, the family of Kendra Johnson filed a lawsuit against the federal. Federal judges for a sum of $10 billion. Now they are alleging that chief judge Lee Martin May and judge Sarah Elizabeth Garrity used their positions to provide aid, comfort and release to those involved in the death of Kendrick Johnson in 2013, alleging that this is a murder, cover up, conspiracy. Now if they have a good lawyer, which I assume after all of this time dealing with this, and probably a lawyer reached out to them, and if they're willing to sue for $10 billion and with all the evidence leveraged in it, reopening this case

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

and.

[Deontay Cow]

And going directly at the judges that presided over this case.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And if you go look at anything

[Deontay Cow]

from the case, even the brief description that I described here as somebody saying that it was an accident, that he rolled Himself up into a mat. This is obviously a cover up. The judges providing a comfort and release and relief sound very similar to what Judge Ashley Cole was doing to those suspected of murdering Nolan Wells or being witness to his murder. She's using her position to try to create a different narrative, and she is pressing charges on people who are making threats against her. They are trying to turn this case into more about the people that are involved in the case and kind of dissuade us from focusing on the very real reason why we're talking about it in the first places that this young man was murdered. Because when somebody dies accidentally, there's no reason to cover it up. If Nolan Wells drowns, they would have found water in his lungs, and they did not. If Nolan Wells drowns, there's no reason to delete anything off of the funnel. If Nolan Wells drowns, then there's no reason to remove the throat. But if Nolan Wells was strangled, then that would explain some discoloration to the back of the head and the removal of the throat. And now we're trying to turn this into a circus and make it about something bigger by arresting and charging people for making threats, which you cannot make threats, especially to a judge. Like, that's not the smart thing to do.

[Listener Caller]

Right?

[Deontay Cow]

But how many death threats has his mother received and who's been arrested and doing that? How long has this case gone on? And still nobody has been charged and arrested yet. We have several people that are suspected of knowing. We have a young lady, Katie, who is uplading, updating moment to moment her day that day via Snapchat to alleviate herself of any wrongdoing. And then we have this new audio where people are saying, is he dead? Can we cover it up? Nolan, get up.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

We have a young man on the

[Deontay Cow]

phone saying, we're members. Is that a code word? We don't know.

[Co-host Big Cat]

They're members.

[Deontay Cow]

They're members. We have a membership.

[Co-host Big Cat]

How.

[Deontay Cow]

How.

[Patreon Member Caller]

How.

[Deontay Cow]

How far is. How far is. Oh, we're sinking. We're taking water. How far? Oh, I don't know. That's very simple. About ankle deep, about right at my shin. Couldn't answer that question.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

So

[Deontay Cow]

don't allow these people to sweep this under the rug, because this is what they do. Now, I am not in a position. I think Damona had made some very good points, right? She said, you know, as black people, if we're gonna have a revolution, we're gonna have to get rid of all the people in the middle. I think that straddling the fence at this Time is, it's a no go. There's no more straddling the fence. There's no known play in the middle. There are already people on the other side of this fence. There's already the percentage of black people who have chosen to assimilate, who have chosen to fall in line and conform into the value system of America, which is the values of a white supremacist. They've already accepted a subservient position. They've already accepted a position that is in service to the power structure and the greater majority of the. Of the population in America and the structure of America, which is a white supremacist structure.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

So we don't have to worry about

[Deontay Cow]

the people on the other side, the people in the middle. I do have a couple of questions. One, why aren't you in the middle? I mean, why are you in the middle?

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Because at this point, you either with

[Deontay Cow]

us or against us. And oftentimes when you look at somebody like Officer Tatum, you know, being called a coon in the black community is like scarlet letter. And y' all want to still participate in black culture because you grew up in it. You want to still participate in the dances and the trends and lingo because you grew up with it. And you don't want to dismiss all of the benefits that come with the black community, but you want to be neutral in the sorrows that, that. That we can't do that. Because you have every right to participate in all parts of the culture, but it's also your duty to stand with your community. This is how we got here. We didn't get here by people straddling the fence. We didn't get here by people playing the middle. All of the strides we made in America that benefited us and benefited the greater majority of people of color in this fucking country and at some point benefit white people was done by us picking our side. I also don't. I don't necessarily agree or disagree with her stance on his mom because the parents say they don't want to see color and things like that. Because. The media will put you in a tricky position. Because then, like, if his parents try to make it about. If his parents choose to make it about race, then they'll turn it into a witch hunt about his parents, and they'll turn it into a witch hunt about. They'll change the narrative of the conversation. And that's what they want to do. They want the parents to be radical black people so that they can get the overwhelming majority of conservative news watchers to be against this. They're already against it because he black. But by them playing the middle, they're hoping to appeal to the empathy and the humanity of the large amount of eyes that are watching this right now.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Me,

[Deontay Cow]

I wouldn't have responded like that. Me, I would be telling you, let my son be a cautionary tale. Even though Emmett Till was a cautionary tale, even though several black men after him have been cautionary tales. Unfortunately, Nolan Wells is going to have to be the modern cautionary tale.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And then we still have people willing

[Deontay Cow]

to give these people grace. And we are in a time where there is no more grace to be given. We have moved past a point of empathy and we are completely operating in stupidity and a refusal to preserve the life of ourselves and the life of our children. If we choose to keep approaching this and interfacing with this from a place of empathy and from a place of trying to appeal to the good nature of people, we have a man,

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

B.

[Deontay Cow]

Dobbs, on threads who posted a picture is 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 white boys and his black son going up into the western North Carolina mountains for two weeks. He said, my guys, my guy is up in the western NC Mountains for two weeks. Best believe I had that Nolan Wells combo with him before he left. This is not a Nolan Wells combo. If you had the Nolan Wells combo with your son, he wouldn't be going on the trip. That's the point. You talking about. I had the Nolan Wells convo. No, we trying to prevent another Nolan Wells from happening. So it's not about a Nolan Wells convo. It's a don't send your fucking son on a trip by himself with 12 white people in the mountains for two weeks in North Carolina. Yeah, I don't know if you know

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

what's going on in Asheville.

[Deontay Cow]

I don't know what you know, what's going on in Appalachian mountains,

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

but this is the appeal. We want to appeal to the.

[Deontay Cow]

We want to appeal to the. Our empathetic nature and appeal to this supposed humanity. Want to give people grace. Oh, I've seen with these people several times. Nolan Wells parents had seen him hang out with that group people several times. They've heard those names several times. His pops didn't need directions to go get his car. He knew where his son parked his car at. Ocean Springs, Mississippi ain't no big city. He went to high school with these people. So if you had the Nolan Wells conversation. The Nolan Wells conversation. Is this why you can't go? Because what is your son gonna do up there outnumbered 12 to 1. And you ain't going after Noah Wells. I said I'm going.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah. Ain't nobody going that.

[Deontay Cow]

First of all, I don't want to go.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

I want to go be around a whole bunch of white people for two weeks. Second of all, you ain't going. You see what just happened? I can't risk that happening to you. Sorry. Sorry. Me and you will go camping

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

or

[Deontay Cow]

I'll find some black fathers. Black. The black fathers of America.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

On Facebook. Black, black and outdoors, nigga something. I'll find a Facebook group something. So you're not having a Nolan Wells conversation with your child.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

You. You giving.

[Deontay Cow]

You looking at the Nolan Wells case and having the same amount of hope that his parents had every time he walked out the door and left. And he's not coming back home. This is not to point the finger to his parents because they've already experienced the worst of it, but to point the finger at you for seeing the worst of it and still sending your son into a situation where it is

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

even a fucking possibility. Nigga, I can't send my son or my child or my daughter. I can't send them into a situation where that is even a possibility. I can't send my child into a situation where that is a possibility. Especially when you see on the side of justice, how many loops and hoops they willing to go through to sweeping under the rug. No foul play. Your son go up to the fucking mountains and go missing. Everybody else tried to count it for no foul play. You send them up into the mountains,

[Deontay Cow]

they might never find a fucking body.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Or they find your child strung up from a fucking tree and they say he committed suicide.

[Deontay Cow]

And the boy can't be no older than 12 years old.

[Guest Rapper]

Come on.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

What the fuck we doing, man?

[Deontay Cow]

These murders are not only ritualistic, but

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

it's necessary that they cover them up, because they cannot create a precedent of

[Deontay Cow]

white people being held accountable and convicted in cases where they have harmed or murdered a black man, woman or child. It's a pastime for them. It's a greater American pastime than baseball. It's murdering black people at any age.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

This is a pastime for them ever

[Deontay Cow]

since they stepped foot on this soil, especially for the privileged and wealthy class of white people. Or these police run sundown towns of this country, whether that be in the north, south, east, or west, because there are sundown towns everywhere.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And we become complicit when we choose

[Deontay Cow]

to believe in the supposed good nature of. Of people who have only behaved as savages in this country didn't want them just shoot up in and out they did. Idaho.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Nothing but white people out there. So what? What good nature are we appealing to? Are we appealing to the good nature of the people that didn't murder him but stood around and watched? Are we appealing to the good nature of the people who didn't commit the act but helped construct the lie? Are we appealing to the good nature of the people who were pictured in these postcards but they didn't hang them up, but they posed with the body? Are we appealing to the good nature of the white women who lied on Emmett Till and then decided on her deathbed to come forth and tell the truth, still didn't get convicted, still didn't get charged? Are we appealing to the good nature of the people who sat on the jury and knew what these men did and still freed them? Are we appealing to the good nature of the fucking cops who stand by when they partner murders somebody innocently and then get complicit in the lie? What is this good nature we're appealing to? Are we appealing to the judges that provide aid, comfort and relief and help cover up these murders? Are we appealing to the good nature of the judge who used her power and position to help construct the lie

[Deontay Cow]

and used her home as a place

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

to get rid of evidence? Are we looking into the good nature? What good nature. Are we putting to the good nature of the people who get on the Internet and see everything that's happening and still trying to find a way where you deserve to die? Are we talking about the anomalies like a Ms. Rachel who is now getting death threats and unfollowed just for saying black boys deserve to live because one ain't enough. You got to believe the history and not the anomaly. And if you look at how the actions have turned out, people like Ms. Rachel are the anomaly. And all she want to do is educate kids. And she say she didn't. She didn't. She said black boys deserve to live. And we look at that like shout out to Ms. Rachel. That ain't heroic, nigga. That should be the standard. You know how many black people died singing those same sentiments? What good nature? This is the point of maga. This is the point of Turning Point USA to reinstate the tenets of white supremacy under the umbrella of Christian nationalism and the political power of the Republican Party. Because illiteracy aids in bigotry. This is why there's a push for anti intellectualism. Because at the core of racism, at the core of colorism, Misogyny and homophobia is ignorance. And they're directly threatened by the educated populace of America. What does Ms. Rachel do? Educate. So somebody who has dedicated their life to education and also taking on education and also is an educated person understands the ignorance of racism, colorism, misogyny, homophobia. Because at the core of it, it is ignorance. What they say, the truth will set you free.

[Deontay Cow]

Knowledge is power.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

The information is the elevation. All these cliches and they cliches because they fucking true. And they're threatened by the educated populace of America. They're threatened by the history of black Americans and black American intellectuals. Otherwise, why is there a push to ban our literature? Specifically, why? Where's the good nature y' all always want to talk about? Dr. King, what was some of the last words he said to his community? I fear I've integrated my people into a burning building to a house that's on fire. Nigga had a dream and them good natured people killed him. And they didn't kill him with the gunshot, the doctor killed him. What good nature? What are we appealing to? So to Mona's point, all that in the middle ass shit, you gotta get the fuck out the way. If you in the middle, I' ma assume you on their side. Cause I, you know, as tired as I am of having to report on it, I'm powered up. Cause we're not gonna let you sweep

[Deontay Cow]

this shit under the state. Hey, I got a platform.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

I'm powered up. We gonna keep talking about it and fuck all that. I ain't here to appeal to the good nature of people who ain't never had a history of consistent good nature.

[Deontay Cow]

I believe the history, not the anomaly.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

You put all your hope in the

[Deontay Cow]

anomaly and then your ass become a part of their history.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

The ignorance, the anti intellectualism goes hand in hand.

[Deontay Cow]

I want to hold on, let me, let me, let me get some. I got some other notes because I want to talk about this. Cause I want to talk about some of the pushback that I got last week. Well, this week when I posted and I said our young men aren't as dangerous as the young men are 30 or 40 years ago.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And they're completely ignoring the data. And this is the appeal of maga. This is the appeal of Turning Point usa. The data don't matter. The truth don't matter. What I feel and what I want it to be. That's what I'm gonna argue. I'm gonna argue facts with my opinion. I'm argue your facts with my feelings. I'm Gonna argue your facts with that? Just don't make me feel good. Well, I don't give a fuck how you feel, niggas. The truth. If the reason you don't like the truth is because it don't make you feel good, then maybe you need to learn how to sit in discomfort for a little bit. Trust me, it gets better. You know what niggas do when they work out a lot? They go get deep tissue massages. It don't feel good, but they'll feel greater later.

[Deontay Cow]

They'll be ready to perform. Because what's more important, how they feel

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

in that moment or them being ready

[Deontay Cow]

to rise to the occasion later? What, is it better that they stay

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

sore and stiff and then they can't perform? No, no. You gotta let the truth work them fucking kinks out. You'll be all right. Let me go. Let me go get my notes.

[Deontay Cow]

We back. Yeah. Now, I first want to acknowledge the amount of support that we got on their post, but since we talking about the people in the middle and the wars. The culture wars are the wars about the people in the middle. The culture wars are for the people who have yet to pick a side. They don't need to continue to appeal to people who already agree with them.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And this isn't an appeal, but more

[Deontay Cow]

of a call in. Since we aren't focused on the call out, we focus on the call in. So I made a statement that said that our young men are not as dangerous as the young men 30, 40 years ago. The young men 30, 40 years ago are victims of a chemical warfare waged on them by the CIA and the US Government. They are victims of war. They are also way more violent. They were also way more violent, way more unruly, and way more reckless than the children of today.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And there's a pushback on me saying

[Deontay Cow]

our boys are less dangerous.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

There's a pushback.

[Listener Caller]

Crazy work.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

As if being less dangerous is like some bad thing, or being less dangerous is as if I'm. I'm ignorant.

[Deontay Cow]

First of all, I'm in community with these young men. Second of all, I don't have any holdups about doing research. The data proves what I'm saying.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

But pushing back on me saying our boys are left dangerous, as if you're advocating to prove that they're more dangerous. That in and of itself shows the

[Deontay Cow]

problem with our thinking, because how could this possibly be a problem? And this is a result of taking pride in things that you should not be proud of. This is a result of the model

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

that they've given you for what it

[Deontay Cow]

means to be a man. And this is also a result of

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

your fear of taking on the responsibility

[Deontay Cow]

of defining that for yourself. Because that is a responsibility and it's a huge responsibility. And it takes time and it takes

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

leadership and it takes community and it

[Deontay Cow]

takes a balanced conversation.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And it takes power over sovereignty.

[Deontay Cow]

It takes sovereignty to self define.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

It takes imagination to create tenets of what it means for you to be a man in 2026.

[Deontay Cow]

And I'm talking to black men, so

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

we're proud of things that we shouldn't.

[Deontay Cow]

That we shouldn't attach to pride at all.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

That is murder, gang banging, drug dealing,

[Deontay Cow]

mass consumption and mass incarceration.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And negating this data almost intentionally to protect values you've held close to yourself is the definition of anti intellectualism.

[Deontay Cow]

You're holding these values close to yourself because this has been the model.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

This has been the model for you. And this model has been reinforced in film.

[Deontay Cow]

What are all the films that you talk about?

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

What's the films that niggas gonna get

[Deontay Cow]

together and talk about? Paid in Full, Boys in the Hood, Minister Society, South Central.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

These gangster films of the yet Paid in full.

[Deontay Cow]

Did I mention Paid in Full face? First one I mentioned, Belly.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Yeah, when you get a bunch of men together and we start talking about movies, we always going to lean into gangster movies.

[Deontay Cow]

We don't bring up the wood.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

If a young lady is present, she

[Deontay Cow]

going to bring up the wood.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Yeah, we don't. We don't lean in movies where nigga

[Deontay Cow]

talking about the love of his life and a lifetime of loving and the nervousness around losing your virginity and the banter that comes with your homeboys around conversations around sex, you know, coming to age stories. Those aren't the movies you're gonna.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Because these are the models for you. And they're reinforced not only in the film, but the music.

[Deontay Cow]

The music reinforces ideas of murder, gang

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

banging, drug dealing, mass consumption and mass incarceration and having pride and.

[Deontay Cow]

Or glorifying those things.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Every time you get on a track,

[Deontay Cow]

you repping your set.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Every time you get on the track,

[Deontay Cow]

you repping, you calling out your hood.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Every time you saying, free this nigga, free that nigga. Every time you want to talk about

[Deontay Cow]

the clothes you got on your body.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Every time you want to glorify the

[Deontay Cow]

murder and how you mur. Oh, the gun was so, you know, I had like, you know, I won't call out no names, but I had

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

some battle rappers in there, some agreeing, some disagreeing.

[Deontay Cow]

And the battle rappers that Disagree, disagree.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Because all they raps is about how big that guns is. So this, this, this way of thinking, this model of thinking puts money in your pocket. So of course you don't want to think that it's less dangerous because then that makes you seem like a phony. And a lot of it is pretending. The biggest liar in the world is a rapper. They tell a rapper all the time, fake it till you make it. Fake chains, fake charges, fake crimes, fake gang, fake hood, fake name. Facade. Facade based on a model that they gave you. Yes, we participated in the selling of the drugs, but the period that we talk about is either called the crack era or the war on drugs. And what it really was was a

[Deontay Cow]

war on poverty and a war on

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

impoverished black men and women.

[Deontay Cow]

Took the mothers out the neighborhood, took the business out the neighborhood terrorized the grandparents who was now forced to raise

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

the children, took the structure out the neighborhood, took all the core values that

[Deontay Cow]

black people hold near and dear to themselves. It took it out the neighborhood.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And they introduced this new nigga, this

[Deontay Cow]

new nigga that'll kill you broad daylight.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

This new nigga that ain't scared to

[Deontay Cow]

go to prison, this new nigga that go to prison and bring the prison

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

culture back to the block. And then the block adapt prison culture which subconsciously prepares them to go to prison. We take pride in these things because

[Deontay Cow]

it's reinforced that we take pride in these things.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And they effectively created the model for what they want the black man to be. And you have not ever taken sovereignty over that identity. And you know that it takes responsibility, discipline and consistency in order to create this new model. It takes a hands on approach with these young men to create a new to new, to create a new model.

[Deontay Cow]

But what did I say?

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

You changed the diet, you change the mental diet, you change the physical diet,

[Deontay Cow]

you change the spiritual diet, you change the child.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

These young men that still exhibit these

[Deontay Cow]

behaviors are either chronically online, are also highly impressionable. And they're following examples that are comprehensive to their emotional state or their quality of life. They are still living in poverty.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And all the men left in these neighborhoods that they respect still model the white man's idea of what the black man is supposed to be. See, if you was going to the neighborhood every day and you was providing skills, let's say you was a welder, you electrician, you H vac technician, you a plumber, and you was going to teaching these young men do when make the news. But if you go rob a liquor

[Deontay Cow]

store, they gonna put you on the News. If you was helping old ladies cross

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

the street, if you was making sure.

[Deontay Cow]

If you started the delivery service that

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

gets the seniors and the elders in your neighborhood their groceries without them having

[Deontay Cow]

to leave the house, they won't put

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

you on the news. But if you snatch one of their purses, you they'll put you on the news. They have an idea about what they want the black man to be. It takes a consistent and a disciplined effort to change that narrative. It takes power to have ownership over self definition. And the young men that still exhibit these behaviors are either chronically online, highly

[Deontay Cow]

impressionable, or are following examples that are comprehensive to their emotional state and quality of life.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

If everything around you is chaotic, your behavior might be a little chaotic. If everyone around you is hustlers, you

[Deontay Cow]

might become a hustler.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

If everybody in your household is a liar, you might become a liar.

[Deontay Cow]

It's their quality of life.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

If there's. It's their emotional state. If your mama is addicted to drugs, nine times out of 10, you ain't gonna become a hero and go and go to war with all the drug

[Deontay Cow]

dealers because of what they did to your mama. You gonna become a drug dealer

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

and the algorithm is not data. The algorithm is a feedback loop. And it's oftentimes an echo chamber of your interest. So if you always seeing young niggas committing crimes on your algorithm, then you are interested in young niggas that commit

[Deontay Cow]

crimes

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

that suits you. But I am here to tell you that these young men are just young men,

[Deontay Cow]

oftentimes, as I said before, anxious,

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

oftentimes experiencing the same emotional state and

[Deontay Cow]

hormonal effects that their counterparts are experiencing. The white boys, the Asian boys, the Hispanic boys, all going through puberty, all, all experiencing teenage angst, all unsure of what their future is to hold, all, all over the fucking place

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

and looking for an adult to give a fuck.

[Deontay Cow]

And they get online and you only want to talk about how dangerous they are when the data shows that they are 60% less dangerous than you were 40 years ago.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

But if you see it on the

[Deontay Cow]

Internet all the time, you take that as data. But the algorithm is not data. It is a feedback loop and it is an echo chamber of your interest. So if you seen it all the time, then you need to do some work within yourself as to why that interests you.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Now, another aspect of this is the

[Deontay Cow]

push to keep us addicted to anger and outrage.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Feelings have an effect. And the feeling that you feel all

[Deontay Cow]

the time, the feeling, the emotional state

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

that is neutral,

[Deontay Cow]

you will start to feel lost without it so oftentimes, when people grew up in chaotic environments, when they start to experience peace, they get uncomfortable, they start to worry what's around the corner. They start to view their peace as a calm before the storm, when really it's just a new standard and it takes a little while to adapt to a new homeostasis. When you're online, they want you to be addicted to anger and outrage. They want you to be addicted to the instant gratification. They want to keep you in a position where you are ignoring messages and

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

paying attention to the things you can

[Deontay Cow]

critique,

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

where you're ignoring the people who are in alignment with you and looking

[Deontay Cow]

for situations that you can argue about.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

So when somebody uses a black scent,

[Deontay Cow]

let's just think about this for a reason, for a second. Let's just think about this. A white person, an Asian person, Hispanic person gets on there and they talking in a black scent. And for whatever reason, the black scent all comes from the same region because what it is is an amalgamation of their idea of what black people speak like. It's often like that new, new type, you overdoing it. Nobody really talks like that. You definitely don't talk like that in front of your mom and daddy. You definitely don't talk like that to your teacher or to your. You might talk like that to the teacher because of the students, but you don't talk to your granny like that.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Now this does not deserve the reaction

[Deontay Cow]

that it constantly gets. I say that to say this, I am going to ignore a person who is living a lie.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

If you are putting on a black scent and my nigga senses get detangling

[Deontay Cow]

and I say, that don't sound right. They don't talk like that.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

They using a black scent. Well, I can't do no worse to them than they already doing to themselves. They're living a lie. I'm not gonna waste my energy on a fucking fraud. So we could just go ahead and start saying people the black sent get on the Internet to get a reaction

[Deontay Cow]

out of you, stop giving them the reaction.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

People who steal and leech out the

[Deontay Cow]

culture also use black tents, but also try to recreate things. That's already been a standard in our. In our community. They do this on the Internet because they want to get your attention. Your black people, your attention is a currency. And oftentimes the only way that they can siphon your attention is by pissing you off.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

But I don't want to be in community with thieves.

[Deontay Cow]

We are. We are in the stage of life in modern America where Attention is currency.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

They are all fighting.

[Deontay Cow]

All these companies are fighting for your two things, your time and your attention. I would say that it is a

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

waste of time

[Deontay Cow]

to try to constantly tell people where things started because you're dealing with liars.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

So the first person and the second

[Deontay Cow]

person are both liars. I'm not wasting my time with a liar. There is no amount of education you can give a liar. Once they're committed to the lie. They can't really recreate anything unless we give them agency to do that. The agency that we're giving them is our time and our attention. But they want to keep you addicted to anger. And a lot of you are. You only know how to operate in anger because you fighting back against a stereotype. They say you're a angry black woman,

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

so you don't want to get mad.

[Deontay Cow]

You want to act like you unbothered. They say you angry black man, so you got to be cool. You got to act like you unbothered. And then it just takes that little straw off camel's back for a person to say that, you know, that cornrows or Bo Derek, Brads or whatever the fuck they used to do and whatever they still do now. Or they get online and they start talking about code switching. We know what code switching is. If we know what it is, that's good enough for us.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Them you care too much. They can't take anything away from us. It's not for them. It's not to give away. They can't steal code switching. They can't steal it. They don't have to do it. They're liars. They're living a lie. They're frauds. They're thieves. Why are you wasting your time on liars and thieves and niggas who are frauds? The bonnet and durag conversation that we're

[Deontay Cow]

gonna have every six months.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Tuskegee. Was it Tuskegee?

[Co-host Big Cat]

I think it was.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

I think it was. Tuskegee implemented an ordinance for a dress

[Deontay Cow]

code that says that students cannot wear bonnets and do rags outside of the dorms. Okay,

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

I understand the angle of respectability politics.

[Deontay Cow]

I understand the conversation around anti blackness. Okay, two things. If your child does not go to Tuskegee, this does not affect you. But it can become a slippery slope when we had to fight for the Crown act and when they fought to reverse the Crown act because there's always an attack on our hair. So I understand the outrage. So I understand that you want to

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

approach this so it doesn't become a

[Deontay Cow]

slippery slope because it Starts with bunnies and durags, and then what does it. So I get it, and I'm not mad about it. This is the response to that conversation. Okay, you want to impose a dress code? Are the buildings up to code? Is. Am I going to have any issues?

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Look, if you want me to keep

[Deontay Cow]

an end of a bargain, you got to keep an end of the bargain. This is where student unions come into play. Instead of us getting angry outrage on

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

the Internet, the same way that they had committees and they had meetings around

[Deontay Cow]

passing this dress code, we're going to have to hold them to it.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

There's protests in order.

[Deontay Cow]

And you can have a protest where everybody stand on the lawn with a bond in a durag until they want to have a conversation.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And the conversation has to be, I

[Deontay Cow]

need my dorms up to code. I need my dorms in ordinance.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

I need my living quarters to reflect

[Deontay Cow]

a good quality of life on this campus.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

I need my classrooms to reflect the same thing. I need every aspect of this college experience to be in ordinance and up to code.

[Deontay Cow]

If you want me to abide by address code, that's what you do for that.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And if y' all stop and if y'.

[Patreon Member Caller]

All.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And if you. And if they don't want to abide by a code ordinance on the administrative level, then. Then go on the transfer portal.

[Deontay Cow]

Tuskegee ain't the only college. I also understand that there's a. There's.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

There is. There is something to be said about

[Deontay Cow]

you dress better, you feel better. There is something to be said about

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

getting up and being ready for the day.

[Deontay Cow]

This doesn't even have to be a conversation around professionalism. I think that we're missing the mark on that.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

This is just tradition. Your mom and daddy ain't let you

[Deontay Cow]

lay around the house all day doing nothing.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Your mom say, get up, get on your feet. Get ready for the day. Up and at them. Get up, get washed up, get some clothes on.

[Deontay Cow]

Look like you ready for the day.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

So there's some of that tradition in there. That is not a bad thing. We don't need to keep losing recipes in terms of our dishes traditions now.

[Deontay Cow]

And I also will say I don't see any issue. Like, I'm not the nigga that care if you wear a bonnet and durag to the airport. Hey, the airports are overcharging.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And the quality of the coach experience

[Deontay Cow]

don't require me to wear the motherfucking suit, okay? This ain't the 70s, nigga. I ain't wearing a suit to the airport. Fuck You. I can't barely. I got to be damn elbow to elbow with a nigga.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

And I got them uncomfortable. I can't let my seat back on some of them. So some of them ain't got wi fi. Some of them ain't got no TV screen. You and the airport. This is just a means of transportation. It might as well be a bus. Walmart. I don't care about no dress code in no Walmart. You going to get groceries to me. The grocery store is an extension of your kitchen. I ain't going to say you can now. I don't think you should just go on Walmart.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Moo moo.

[Deontay Cow]

Titties hanging.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah. It's crazy.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah. I don't think.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

You know what I'm saying? I don't think the titties need to be swinging in the cereal.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Support. Support the tits.

[Deontay Cow]

Support them titties or not.

[Co-host Big Cat]

You know?

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Live your life.

[Deontay Cow]

I ain't gonna be in women's business.

[Co-host Big Cat]

No.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

I'll tell you this.

[Deontay Cow]

Personally, I hate to see a in pajama pants. That burns me up. Why you wearing cloth? Yeah, why you wearing the type of material out in public, son?

[Co-host Big Cat]

Are you clothed up out here?

[Deontay Cow]

Why you're in the cloth? I think that we need to have a more critical conversation instead of a binary conversation. It can't be one or the other. That's white people shit. One of the tenets of white supremacy is binary thinking.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And if we choose to do this

[Deontay Cow]

thing where it's just one thing or the other, then we are actively operating in a white supremacist mindset. It doesn't have to be one thing or the other. It can be many things. It doesn't have to be a conversation about professionalism, but it also is a conversation about what's professional. I want you to look, you know, the person that shows up. Nice fit on it don't have to be a suit, but just a nice fit.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

They look like. They look a little bit more energetic

[Deontay Cow]

than motherfucking durag or a Bondi or whatever the case may be.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Is the bun and do rag just a class? They can't wear them to class.

[Deontay Cow]

I think they don't want them to wear anywhere outside the dorms. Okay. I don't think they want to, but

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

I don't see this.

[Co-host Big Cat]

They can't wear them to eat lunch.

[Deontay Cow]

But this is another thing, too. This is the thing I'm saying the way that they did it was a little too rigid.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

I think you should.

[Deontay Cow]

You should be like, if you want to go to lunch. And just like, if you just live in campus, I can understand not coming to class. Yeah, I can get that.

[Co-host Big Cat]

I get that.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

I get that because you, you in

[Deontay Cow]

education, you in the academic sector. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I get that.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Going to the, to the lunch.

[Deontay Cow]

I'm wearing a durag.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm going.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And also One thing about HBCUs too

[Deontay Cow]

is like they have the wave reveals and everybody on the campus wearing durags. That's fire, nigga. That's culture.

[Co-host Big Cat]

It is.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

I understand that. Like shorty, she ain't got no class.

[Deontay Cow]

She just going to the library or

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

she just going to lunch. She ain't feel like doing her hair today. We know that our hair is a big thing. She should be able to rock the bonnet.

[Deontay Cow]

Shorty, like it ain't harming nobody.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

So when you get a little too

[Deontay Cow]

strategic about what black people are doing with their hair and how to wear

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

their hair, that does dive into anti blackness.

[Deontay Cow]

That does dive into respectability politics. Because who you cuz? Cuz, like at what turn do I need to be impressive and who am

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

I impressing now to show up to class?

[Deontay Cow]

I think that, I think that's fair.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, it is. Class professional setting.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

In the class. Professional setting.

[Deontay Cow]

And because you wouldn't show up to a job interview like that, you're not going to show up to your career like that.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Exactly.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

So cool.

[Deontay Cow]

I think that there needs to be. We need to start having conversations around give and take. We've lost it. Yeah, we've lost it.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Where it's just one thing or the other.

[Deontay Cow]

That's where you start to lose. That's why you start to lose footing. It does become a slippery slope when you start mandating these things and, and making it a public thing. Because then there's going to come a thing of you can only wear shoulder length braids or you can't wear. You can't have color in your hair. They will start using this as a prerequisite to start to attack the black crown.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

So we do need to protect the

[Deontay Cow]

crown at all times. So I understand. But I am also able to hold two opposing views. And if you are not able to do that, that is an issue because you are stuck in binary thought you were stuck in this my way or the highway thinking. And if, listen, here's the thing. We can't say black people aren't a monolith and then try to impose our form of the monolith. There has to be some type of give and take. But because we have lost community and because we don't congregate with each other in large spaces anymore outside of entertainment and because we don't talk about our interests and because we don't have sovereignty over how we represent ourselves as a community in real life spaces and not just online. The conversation becomes had online and then it's off to the races because will get a comment section and say anything. And the dangerous part, we're having a conversation in mixed company and this is data for them and they're trying to find. And, and through this data they will find another thing to keep you angry and outraged about. I'll say this, since we want to talk about the hair. Are y' all still going to black owned beauty supply stores? Are y' all still supporting your brothers and sisters in that respect? Are we still finding black nail techs? Are we staying down with the boycott? Are we, are we, are we holding the line? But this conversation will come up every

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

six months

[Deontay Cow]

because there are of. There, there is a side of the community that does lean heavily into respectability politics and want to be dressed to the nines every time they leave out the house. And there's, there's black people that want to take back their sovereignty and say,

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

hey,

[Deontay Cow]

calling in a ghetto aesthetic, that don't shame me. Because ghetto aesthetics is the thing that y' all take.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

And then when y' all can find

[Deontay Cow]

the right marketing for it, y' all go to make money off of it. So we're not going to sit here and call these people ghetto and degenerate as if it's something to be ashamed of. We're not going to. We like, like, like. We're not going to attach degenerate to ghetto. We're not going to do that

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

because

[Deontay Cow]

the hood is a class thing. And what you start to do is say people should be ashamed of something they was born into. And oftentimes all the culture that you niggas love to go and talk about were born out of, born out of people in poverty. We're made by people in poverty, were invented and innovated by people in poverty. A lot of things you hold near and dear, a lot of the dances, a lot of fashion trends, a lot of the lingo comes from people who live in poverty. So if you want to equate ghetto to degenerate, then you sound like a cracker to me. Because some of the hardest working people you ever met live in the ghetto. Some of the cleanest people you ever meet live in the ghetto. Some of the hardest working people you ever meet Live in the ghetto. I think in St. Louis. There, there's a. There's a road where one side of the street is the projects and the other side is a wealthy class. And you got people coming from the projects to go clean these people houses. So these same people that sit here and call you lazy will hire you to clean their homes. Same people that sit here and call you bad mothers will hire you to watch their children. They used to call you dangerous, but they want you to drive dry their cars. So you dangerous until you can be in servitude. Them then, hey, that nigga's all right.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

But they want to keep you addicted

[Deontay Cow]

to anger and outrage because black joy is the enemy of white supremacy. They don't want to see you happy. They can't tolerate a smiling. They hate it. It burns them up to see just together, haha. And he him, huh. Like a mob to a flame.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

They had to see.

[Deontay Cow]

They, they hate to see black people happy.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Black joy is a resistance to the. To the misery that they want you to live in. To the misery that they want to

[Deontay Cow]

be your state, your constant state. They want your state of being to be miserable. And we refuse to do that. It's just not who we are. But we also are not going to keep falling for these little tricks that keep us addicted to anger and outrage because our attention is a currency. And if you start treating your attention how you treat your money, I'll know everything that I need to know about you. Because instant gratification is one thing, but an impulse reaction is another. And both of them require your attention. And some of them require your anger and your outrage. They want you to be easily reactive. They want you to be impulsive in your response. Sometimes you just gotta look at things and say whatever. I see a person using the black scent. I see a person living a lie. I see a person trying to rename things that we invented. I see a person living a lie because they know white people ain't and. Come on, man. Come on, man. Well, we keep having this conversation. We'll be right back after this commercial break. We, we back. All right, so look, because we've had to do some restructuring because of the overwhelming support about Grist and a university, me, Dr. Taylor Cummings and Dr. Maurice Robertson, aka Rich Grylls.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Cow]

We have decided to restructure and actually expand this idea into a full length like actual online university using some of the tenants from Masterclass and things like it to create a comprehensive online university centered around black studies, centered around revolutionary thinking, centered around Some basic introductions to education for people who may not feel on par as far as literacy, on par as far as vocabulary and some of these things. This is going to be an actual comprehensive school. We're going to work on some self accreditation because sometimes when you go reach to get accredited, then you relinquish control over to what you can teach at your school and how you want to go about it. We want to do something that's for us. We want to live outside of the means and the structure of the institutions of America. And we want to do something to suit black people, that's for black people, that's by black people. And I've had an overwhelming amount of people reach out in order and that want to help. But we're gonna do it and it's gonna be the real deal. And we're looking to effectively launch this next spring, like April. It'll be completely online access. We will create an additional tier as an admission fee to get in. And then with the master class, each professor will have their own set curriculums and they'll have their own fees attached to that. So we're going to figure out a structure where we make it affordable. But we also aren't asking people who are experts to just give their value away for free.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

And we also want to gatekeep so that we're not just letting anybody and everybody into our game room. We want to do like applications, we want to do reviews, we. We want to know who's attending this school. And we want them to be black.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Absolutely.

[Deontay Cow]

And that's our prerogative. And we're going to do that. But with the school motto being do the Knowledge, I've been thinking about some ways that we can do the Knowledge. So this week's Patreon stream or episode? No, I think we can do it on stream or. Or episode. But we will plan to stream out now. I just had to pay attention to Patreon notifications and we are going to do a new introductory video and a new pin video for the new members of Patreon. And I figured out how to refresh the link on Patreon. That will be done this week as well so that people can get into the discord. My plan is to have a complete facelift of the Patreon to ease the access. It is pretty simple to navigate, but even with things being simple, people still need sometimes. Sometimes you need nigga to hold your hand. Yeah, and we ain't mine to hold your hand. We ain't gonna shame nobody for it. But the grist and expert university is coming. But I think that I wanted to provide as much value as possible for the people who are going to be involved and enlisted, enlisted and I want to bring value to the professors and I am the dean, you know what I'm saying? But in the interest of doing the knowledge, this week we have a video on YouTube about 30, 30 lost money skills African Americans passed down that built wealth before 1980. And these were people that operated outside of the institutions of America and operated within the confines of community. And after watching this 30 minute video, I was like, damn, if I implemented just half of these, I'd be like, I'd be damn near. Well, not only financially literate, but I have like you, you would just have so many more skills around discipline, around money instead of being careless and over consumption and engaging in over consumption and engaging in hyper materialism. So I'm gonna figure out how you can get on a stream and you can play the video and we can react to it in real time and we have conversations in real time on the chat. So that'll be coming later on this week. I, you know, we could take a vote on which day works best for y' all as far as streaming, if that be Friday night or Saturday night. And then we're also gonna record another Patreon episode this week. It's just gonna go ahead, it's gonna give it to you, but it's time. Time for the voicemails, baby.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Hey, let's get it.

[Deontay Cow]

Time for the voicemail. 657234 eggs. That's 657-234-3447. And on stream this week.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Oh, well.

[Deontay Cow]

And I think a good thing about this stream this week is that while we play the video and while we're responding, people can call in and give their opinion, but what they got to do to call in $8. Oh, that's the only way you're going to be able to talk to me in Big Cat. So we'll see y' all on Patreon later on this week. Let's take our first caller.

[Patreon Member Caller]

What up?

[Listener Caller]

What up, Deandre Kyle and big ass Cupcat. This is Jaden from Duval. Yeah, I'm from Jacksonville. I was just calling to, you know, show my support, show my big ups. I'm, I'm a young, young black man Just turning 21, and I'm very decorated and proud of myself for how far I pushed myself in my educational career. I just graduated with my bachelor's of Business administration in accounting and I currently have had two accounting positions that I've been grinding and excelling in. I've been corporate thugging like a motherfucker. So I just been watching your show, hearing your podcast, feeling very inspired, feeling very connected to my community. Definitely grew up as one of the kids in the white suburbs. I didn't fuck with it at all. They had horrible energy. They didn't feed my spirituality at all. They didn't feed my actual life force. I didn't feel like I was actually living with them. I just felt like I was around them and just judged all the time. But I would like to thank you for bringing me back to my roots and doing the Knowledge. My name big ups.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Do the knowledge. You gotta do the Knowledge.

[Deontay Cow]

My shout out to you.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Shout out to Duvo.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Shout out to all my corporate thugging out here.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Yeah, man.

[Patreon Member Caller]

Peace and love. Written eggs family. What's up, Beyonce? What's up, Big Ice Color track? This is your girl, Carolina Coats, AKA Ari. I'm a Patreon cousin. Just want to first of all say that I'm proud of y'.

[Listener Caller]

All.

[Patreon Member Caller]

Keep doing what y' all doing and continue to get your rest. What everybody say you need rest. So as you may or may not remember, I am currently pregnant. I am due October 2nd. This is my first child. So I am navigating a lot of things on how to be able to continue to support her along with my partner while also watching her. I'm currently in South Carolina. I don't have any family down here. And basically what I'm asking is if there's anyone, whether cousins in the Patreon or just cousins listening, who works for a company that is looking for work from home. Contenders looking for anyone to work from home, please contact me. Reach out to me. I am in the Patreon. I don't know how that communication works with deontay people reaching out, but I am looking for a work from home job. Like I said, it's just me and my partner down here. We don't have any family. And I want to make sure that I'm still making my money while taking care of my baby girl. I also want to invite y' all to the baby shower. I will send that via email or put it. Actually, I'm gonna put it in the Patreon chat. But yes, Thank y' all so much for listening. I love y'.

[Co-host Big Cat]

All.

[Patreon Member Caller]

Appreciate y'. All. God bless y' all and yeah, be back.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

What she say? What she say to the Knowledge?

[Deontay Cow]

We back.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

We back.

[Deontay Cow]

We talking about, man. Shout out To y'. All, congratulations on the bab. The only thing we can hope for is just a healthy baby.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

10 fingers, 10 toes. This my grandma used to say.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yep, yep.

[Deontay Cow]

We want a healthy baby with a sound mind. Ten finger, ten toes.

[Co-host Big Cat]

That's it.

[Deontay Cow]

But I mean, shout out to you, man, that's. That's love, man. We.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

You know you down there.

[Co-host Big Cat]

What you about to say? Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Got to work from home in South Carolina.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Shout out to all my South Carolina man.

[Deontay Cow]

A lot of jokes. Shout out my junkyard dogs out there,

[Co-host Big Cat]

Son, You can't take the baby to the junkyard.

[Deontay Cow]

Gotta work from home.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Junkyard.

[Deontay Cow]

Get on bassinet.

[Listener Caller]

Yo, much love to y' all boys. Grizzen a. You dig what I'm saying? I'm really just calling stuff some love. And I just saw that episode about the gritson a university. I think that's your fire, bro. I feel like it's only right, bro. You gotta have Dr. Umar on the shit. You know what I'm saying? I feel like that'd be very edutainment. You see what I'm saying? And then, and then. And then for that 300th episode, y' all gotta go TQ down. I'm talking about true religion polo. You feel me? Like, it's only right. 300.

[Patreon Member Caller]

Come on, man.

[Listener Caller]

Like, yeah. Anyway, just all the love for y' all boys. Keep up, good work. Keep doing what y' all doing. Yeah. Much love. Yeah.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Unfortunately, we still 7.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

250. I'm sorry, we Unfortunately. Unfortunately for you, my. There won't be no 300 episode.

[Co-host Big Cat]

That's the. I don't like.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Damn.

[Co-host Big Cat]

That's funny as hell. Good idea, though. I like that.

[Deontay Cow]

I mean, great episode. If we make it,

[Co-host Big Cat]

they go bomb the studios.

[Deontay Cow]

Instead of episode 250, I'm gonna just say this is episode 300.

[Co-host Big Cat]

300, baby. All right, let's get into it, man.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

All right.

[Deontay Cow]

We gotta help assist the cousin out here.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Hey, G and E cousins.

[Deontay Cow]

I've been falling apart for about a year. I got into the Patreon and Discord a few months ago. Deontay you and bis big ice cup cat. Excessive air horns. Hold on.

[Listener Caller]

We got.

[Guest Rapper]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

They say that we keep her company on the long drives. As a community mental health therapist, she's appreciated being part of the space that we built. So thank you, sister. We appreciate you. I get these parents and their kids to do the knowledge on a daily. So much love to you. We appreciate you reaching out because she was involved in a deer collision this weekend that totaled out the front of her V vehicle and she just sent this email nine hours ago. So we are on the horn.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Cow]

So thankfully she's okay physically, but the repairs and insurance deductible are more than I can manage right now. I just applied back to school to finish my master's degree so I can get even closer to my goals of providing therapy and coaching to my neuro spicy community to get the help and support they need. I started to go fund me to help cover the cost, get my car back on the road as well as a rental so I don't lose my job while I wait for my car to be filled fixed. I know you've shared community members fundraisers in the past, so I want to ask if you would consider sharing mine if you feel it's appropriate. Well, it just so happens that this is at my discretion and at the reading I do feel it's an appropriate thing. So I will for this gofundme, I'm going to go ahead and do it right now. Yeah, we are going to copy and we're going to send this to Tristan right now. And I've seen it. I'm sending this over to Trisha right now. We would love to help. We're going to help however we can. She has a legit gofundme. She's already been raising money on her own. She's just asking for a little help. Her goal is $1,800. So let's help out a cousin. Yeah, let's help our cousins out, man. Shout out to you, you know, you, you with us with you. We gonna with you. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Cow]

She a cousin. She a patron. She holding it down. She pop my.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

She pop, bro.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Start hitting them. Got them deers.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, man.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Stay up the deals, man.

[Deontay Cow]

Hey, man, sometimes them deals hop out and get you.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, they'll get you. Yeah, for sure.

[Deontay Cow]

I've seen it, man. I remember me and my mom, right? I was with a bat row. Me and my. Me and my daddy, we're in a goddamn Nissan Sentra Burgundy.

[Co-host Big Cat]

One

[Deontay Cow]

goddamn dare.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Just say, hey,

[Co-host Big Cat]

that's a small. That's a small car. I can get it.

[Deontay Cow]

I can take them.

[Co-host Big Cat]

I can take them. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Hey, yeah.

[Co-host Big Cat]

They have to flip that boat.

[Deontay Cow]

What? I remember that like it was yesterday. I said, God damn, I don't even

[Co-host Big Cat]

deer fuck some shit up.

[Deontay Cow]

Dear, fuck your car. Now I also remember getting them bitches back.

[Co-host Big Cat]

She was getting back in 18. Oh my God.

[Deontay Cow]

I ain't saying I ain't saying I just was doing it. Yeah, yeah, but I saying I done got one.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Yeah, I got.

[Deontay Cow]

I say fuck it, man. I'm not pressing, I'm not breaking. Listen.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah. I'm not jackknife here for the rest

[Deontay Cow]

of the jackknife in this fucking. Hey bro, look, you finna go see

[Co-host Big Cat]

Pocahontas, my nigga Go see Bambi.

[Deontay Cow]

Hey, look, I'mma tell you God honest truth. It sound like it felt like I just rolled over on emergency come 18 wheeler. Don't feel that especially they got that

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

guard rail on that.

[Deontay Cow]

Hey, when I pull that I ain't see nothing fur in that.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

You know what I'm saying? Took out my daddy car, I took

[Co-host Big Cat]

out a

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

d. Took out my daddy

[Deontay Cow]

car, I took out of there.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

We even.

[Co-host Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

We even.

[Deontay Cow]

All right. This is nutritionist are goddamn a lot of but this ain't.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

He ain't looking for help.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, he looking too help.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Okay, let's do it.

[Deontay Cow]

So D, what's decy oh, shit. I know this nigga in his 40.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Decal that nigga said what's up boss player.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Oh yeah. He 47. 47.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

The biggest of ice cubs big ice cub cat is your Houston cutters Alex and fuck8 I paid the 75 for

[Deontay Cow]

the 12 months, man.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Hey man, it's about 75,000. Are you making me slip your game while we trying to get the that boat Joe button?

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, try to get the Joe button got get that all

[Deontay Cow]

n man. I ain't going to lie, bro. I'm in. I'm in rare form boy. These last few episodes I just been. I can't wait to record dam like man we been going to talk this yeah but shout out to that man right here. I'm the guy from dreamcon. The Superman compression shirt. Remember you whose red octave hat.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

I'm a dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We was at Dreamcon. Hot off sign as hat. I remember you my. He was. He had the. The grits. The red grits. I wasn't there.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Cow]

I wasn't trying to jog your memory. I wasn't there.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

True story.

[Deontay Cow]

I didn't know that because I didn't know cousin Spencer. He saw we had the same name. Oh, the dude that was with him same we say we had the same hat and approached me on the first floor. Next thing you know me and him come to the end show together on some whiz. Eased on down the road to had a ball. Okay. All Right. Anyway, I'm certified nutritionist, transitioning from a career in education into one in nutrition. I was hoping to help you because I know you're trying to get right. I'd love to consult you and Big Cat for the free right quick over the cousin stream. Or maybe we can talk about the politics of fitness. Unwalkable cities, food, desert, etc below there's a few grocery lists, items and recipes. My IG is Body by Snap. Gotta get your body by somebody.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Body by Snap.

[Deontay Cow]

Your body gotta come by.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

For all others interested, that's Body by Snap. For all others interested, I will also put this information in discord and the Patreon. I really just trying to build out my name so I'm giving everything out for free. My app is my app because I specialize in working with those of us with those of us from those circumstances. This ain't no Dr. Savvy ass. Clearly you have the motivation and resources. Let's just get the information and structure together. All right, let's do it.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

P.S. bell hooks has helped me compartmentalize each episode into what I call the four horsemen of oppression, imperialism, white supremacy, capitalism, patriarchy. I'm so happy and proud of all you're doing and I'm grateful to be on this journey. Well, shout out to my. Yeah, shout out to my body.

[Co-host Big Cat]

My Snap, baby. Yeah. Yeah, baby.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Go get your body right.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, man, go holla at Snap, son. Gonna go holla at Snap. I'm gonna go look at some of these recipes, though. Yeah, look good food.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Look good.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Look amazing.

[Deontay Cow]

No, I ain't gonna lie.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Snap. Snapping.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Like, look good. Like Snap ain't Snap ain't feeding you. No, it should look good. Some proteins in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good rice. Yeah, he on his d' Angelo Daberi shit.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Little sweet pea and beef and sweet. Sweet potato and beef.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, listen, man, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Cow]

Me, I go turkey meat. But, you know, teach his own. Teach his own. You know, I ain't gonna yucky.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

What do you say? Yucky Yum.

[Co-host Big Cat]

I ain't gonna yuck your yam.

[Deontay Cow]

Nasty work.

[Co-host Big Cat]

I ain't gonna yuck your yam.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Please, for the love of God, don't never y. Please don't yuck my yam.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Please, please, for the love of God. Yam.

[Deontay Cow]

No yam.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Son, I'm begging you, for the love of God, please don't yuck my yams. Not my yams.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Don't yuck them.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Anything but the yams.

[Deontay Cow]

Oh, I Like that little saying, I ain't going to yuck your yum. No, son, we definitely not yucking your yams.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Please.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

That's sick.

[Co-host Big Cat]

For the sake of humanity, don't yuck the yams.

[Deontay Cow]

If you have a heart at all,

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

if you have any compassion, don't yuck my yams.

[Deontay Cow]

Come on, man. I got kids.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Taxpayer citizens.

[Guest Rapper]

Don't.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, I work hard for this, man. I work hard for these yams, man.

[Co-host Big Cat]

My yams a little.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Keep your hands on my jams.

[Deontay Cow]

All right, let's go back. Oh, I'm over this. But I'm pregnant. Oh, damn. So should I try again with them?

[Guest Rapper]

Oh.

[Deontay Cow]

Or getting. Well, what's up, cousins? You can make up a name for this one if you like. We just gonna say anonymous.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

That's gonna keep you anonymous. Pretty lengthy here.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Good Lord.

[Deontay Cow]

I'm not gonna lie, shorty. I'm not reading.

[Co-host Big Cat]

God damn.

[Deontay Cow]

That was a book when I gotta hit two scrolls. It was First Corinthians, son. God damn. From the book of.

[Co-host Big Cat]

The book of yam, son. Don't yuck them. That should not yuck the yams.

[Deontay Cow]

All right, let's. Let's help somebody else. All right. Okay, all right, all right. Okay. We gotta find one more, man.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Okay. All right. We're having somebody with some family issues.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Let's do it.

[Deontay Cow]

Let's relax. Hello, Deontay and big ice cup cat. I'm from Gary, Indiana, and I really appreciate your podcast. I just graduated with a bachelor of art in Spanish and now I'm studying bookkeeping. I learned new things from you and I resonate with a lot of your words. It means a lot to me to hear older black men deconstructing patriarchy and recognizing how harmful it is while we still have to exist under systemic racism. I guess I could use some advice about how to go. Oh, you know what?

[Co-host Big Cat]

Oh, man, I gotta blow it up a little bit. Yes. Yeah, good enough.

[Deontay Cow]

I guess I could use some advice on how to go about my relationship or whether the lack of it with my big brothers. I love them, but I don't like them. My parents keep telling me to talk to them, but they have hurt me very much. I miss what we used to be. There was a time where we all got along, but that has passed and they are 12 and 13 years older than me. I'm 22 now. For context, after my oldest brother overdosed and came to me for help, I cut him off because I never wanted to see him like that. The next day, after he didn't even remember any of it because of course. And he didn't even remember any of it. But of course I did and still do. I don't know the person he is now, but my parents want me to get to know him again. He used to be very reckless and impulsive because of his bipolar disorder. He would experience mood swings where one second he was depressed and the next he would be angry over nothing. Is exhausting. Put me on the edge and took a mental toll. I won't allow myself to be around that. My younger brother is very misogynistic, angry, insecure, miserable, and emotionally abusive to his wife. I told my mom to whoop him so many times, and I don't understand why my dad hasn't already. I don't care that he's in his 30s. He needs to watch his mouth and he needs to get checked. If my parents are complacent, what can I do? So I cut him off, too. Other than that, my dad and some of the men in my fam. Other than my dad and some of the men in my family. I really don't like being around men or even young men my age. Though I know I want to support our community. I guess I should. You. I could use some advice on whether I should attempt to be talking to my older brother again or continue to keep my peace. I don't know. Maybe it's worth mentioning. My brothers want to have a relationship with me. Oh, okay. My brothers want me to have a relationship with them. The younger one tries to make conversation with me, and I ignore him. But the oldest has consistently been asking my parents to ask me to get in contact with them. The younger one just moved out into his own house, but still lives relatively close, while the oldest lives hours away. They both agree that I'm funny, and it's important for me to be optimistic. I don't think they understand that it's a choice to be the way that I am. I choose to be joyful and smile. I don't know everything they've lived through, but I know they shouldn't take that. Take what they experienced out on others. And they have to choose to be positive, too.

[Listener Caller]

All right.

[Deontay Cow]

Hey, You choosing peace, man? I think. Look, man, I don't talk to. I don't talk to Brandi. You know what I'm saying? Brandy been addicted to dress since I was 22 years old. this point, I can't just continue to go based on what she say she gonna do. Her kids is grown. She has another child. That's in elementary school. Buffett Amari is in college and excelling. Sanaya is doing really well in her job and in her newfound career. I don't got nothing to talk to Brandy about. You gotta go change your life on your own.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Not come in and try to get

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

me

[Deontay Cow]

to get back on board while you in the midst of deciding what you're gonna do and whether and you just saying you're gonna change. As far as the other brother, like, he thinks that his misogyny is excusable because you, his sister, you set firm boundaries with them. I don't think. I think that what you are experiencing is kind of like a mixture of, like survivor's guilt a little bit, because it's like you've done things. You. You've chosen. You've chosen to choose a life of peace. You know that your life won't be peaceful if they involved in it. You chose yourself. And you very young. You still young. I would say give it. Just. Just stay.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

Just stick.

[Deontay Cow]

Just stick to your guns for some time. Yeah. Because the reason why your parents correct the behavior is because they've enabled the behavior way too long. And they don't know how to deal with somebody who's not enabling their behavior. So they think. Just saying some nice words, just mentioning some of your better attributes. They think the persistence and the consistency, which is also in some instances can be seen as them crossing your boundaries. They think that's enough to get you back on board because that's enough for your parents to always get back on board. I say stick to your guns. I say enjoy your peace. I say you old. Stall them out, Debo.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Cuz it's not like you hate them and it's not like you did anything to them. They're living in the consequences of their actions towards you. I had made a decision to cut some of my family members off. That went on for years. And even when the so quote unquote cut off was up, still distance. We're not just gonna go back and fall back into the relationship.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

We got. We gotta work on it. And it take time. You gotta get to know me as I am now. And I need to get to know you as the person. And the thing is, is that if you're still gonna be the same old person that I cut off, I might as well just keep you cut off.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

You can't help who your relatives are, but you can choose your family. So you're in a position now where you get to make the choice about who you call family. Blood is the thing that connects y'.

[Guest Rapper]

All.

[Deontay Cow]

But obviously on an ideological level, obviously on a temperament level, obviously on a level of morals and values, y' all don't have much in common. And I don't think that you owe them anything. I think it's unfortunate, but I think you're the one that's owed. And until they get in alignment and show some consistency and not just trying to save face, then you keep them where they at. I think it's extremely brave of you at 22 years old to not only recognize that, but to make the step to distance yourself, to choose peace. So be proud of yourself, stick to your guns, and thank you for listening, Big Cat.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

What you got, baby?

[Co-host Big Cat]

Hey, man, it's been a fight episode, man. Touched a lot of key points. Such a lot of key points today, man. Yeah, man.

[Deontay Cow]

Well, I, I would say if you're not a part of the Patreon, join the Patreon so we can do the knowledge together.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

I would say that we spent some time having fun on the Patreon.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

But I'm, I'm really in preparation for this grist n University. I'm really going to, I'm, I'm really going to start unraveling some of my more radical ideology on there.

[Co-host Big Cat]

As you should.

[Deontay Cow]

You know, I teach, I, I, I do knowledge here, but we going to do knowledge 2.0 over there.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, it's getting sticky.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, man.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah, man, I like that.

[Deontay Cow]

It's always going to be, you know, me and you, we always going to find a time for a loud for sure. I think. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cub Cat]

The dean, the dean.

[Deontay Cow]

Dean Deontay is gonna show up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host Big Cat]

The dean, baby.

[Deontay Cow]

You know what I'm saying? I go wires, I go gold.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

I go skull count. I go see murder. See murder for the dean [e-mail], you know what I'm saying? Hey, man, you gonna take that freedom, Dean Murder. You know what, man?

[Co-host Big Cat]

Yuck. Them yams.

[Deontay Cow]

Eight dollars, man. Deontay. Com, bro. See y' all next week. Crazy. For the love of God.

[Co-host Big Cat]

Love of God, please don't y' all get the.

[Guest Rapper]

You know what I'm saying?

It's just hip hop.

[Deontay Cow]

It's just, you know what I'm saying? It's just my.

[Co-host Big Cat]

It's just rats, man.

[Guest Rapper]

Turn me up, man.

[Listener Caller]

It's just rap.

[Deontay Cow]

I just want to rap. I just want to rap.

[Listener Caller]

Yeah.

[Guest Rapper]

They say without the proper labor, faith

[Deontay Cow]

don't stand a chance.

[Guest Rapper]

I put my faith in faith and stand on fertile land I planted seeds Adeline deed turning the trees before rest in peace tease get printed to me unless impeded Matter of fact that got me thinking back when Mr. Love was tending to his garden schooling me to a newity before he grabbed his clubs to go golfing and it's no coincidence that do still had the caddy back when woods were still the best don't let me roll off course here Georgie Pops was dropping jams while I was lighting cigs but you know I too was listening with both ears you see that's the best that I can do Wisdom is the application of knowledge I was picking up what he was putting down just wasn't applying it. I ain't denying it. Nah, maybe I was too busy trying to find the balance between religion and science trying to get to the bottom of everything everything while being the highest like a pilot's roots am I right brother? Cuz I was simultaneously relaying it through reason and rhyming that I sought for us dissecting systems responsible for our imprisonment the visionary with astigmatism in scar cord if love is blind then what am I? You can't fight faith that's why.

[Listener Caller]

So.