Episode 45 - Decatur Where It's Greater ft. Omar Dorsey

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast Summary
Episode 45 - "Decatur Where It's Greater" ft. Omar Dorsey
Release Date: January 6, 2025

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Introduction and Acknowledgments

[00:00 - 03:00]
Deontay Kyle opens the episode by introducing the special guest, Omar Dorsey, an accomplished actor known for his roles in "Queen Sugar," "Raising Canaan," "Snowfall," and the upcoming "Bookies" season two. Deontay shares a poignant moment, expressing his deep sense of loss over the passing of his friend, Tony Todd, a legendary actor celebrated for his impactful performances.

Deontay Kyle [01:34]: "I feel blessed right now... Tony Todd might come back the candy mane. I'm gonna say it one time, but it's crazy."

Acting Journeys and Career Highlights

[03:01 - 12:00]
Omar Dorsey reflects on his diverse acting career, discussing his involvement in significant projects like "Road Trip," "Drumline," "Starsky Hutch," and "Selma." Deontay shares his transition from aspiring director to a dedicated actor, underscoring his educational background in theater and film.

Omar Dorsey [08:12]: "So, my first movie was 'Road Trip.' I've been in three Todd Phillips movies. I was in school for 'Scoundrels,' I was in 'Starsky Hutch' with Snoop..."

Overcoming Typecasting and Breaking Barriers

[12:01 - 20:00]
The conversation delves into the challenges of typecasting, particularly for black actors who often find themselves pigeonholed into specific roles. Deontay discusses his struggle to break free from gangster stereotypes and his efforts to diversify his roles through collaborations with creators like Ava DuVernay on "Queen Sugar."

Deontay Kyle [17:22]: "People will always want you to do what you did last. So it's like... I don't want to get pigeonholed."

Omar emphasizes the importance of creating and participating in projects that offer nuanced representations of black characters, moving beyond monolithic narratives.

Omar Dorsey [20:44]: "Black film is so important to me. 'Queen Sugar' shows that black people are not a monolith..."

Influence and Representation in Media

[20:01 - 25:50]
Both hosts discuss the significance of authentic black representation in media. They highlight how "Queen Sugar" portrays complex relationships and generational wealth, challenging traditional black stereotypes. Deontay appreciates Chuck Lorre's writing skills, praising his ability to create relatable and multifaceted characters.

Deontay Kyle [24:32]: "Shout out to Chuck Lorre. He's the greatest comedy writer in television history."

Hip Hop, Music Reviews, and Industry Insights

[47:28 - 85:59]
A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to hip hop discussions, where Deontay and Omar critique contemporary artists and albums. They analyze the lyrical prowess and impact of artists like Kendrick Lamar, Drake, and Schoolboy Q, assessing their contributions to the genre.

Omar Dorsey [75:36]: "Kendrick took five years off and came back with 'Mr. Morale,' which was a therapy album."

They debate the state of hip hop, the evolution of its themes, and the importance of maintaining lyrical depth amidst mainstream trends. Deontay shares his admiration for J. Cole and Tyler the Creator, highlighting their innovative approaches to music production and storytelling.

Deontay Kyle [81:18]: "When you learn your lines, you know your lines, then you can start to play."

Wrestling Legends and Pop Culture Moments

[46:40 - 77:04]
The hosts transition to discussing wrestling, reminiscing about iconic figures like Booker T, Ric Flair, and Eddie Guerrero. They share personal anecdotes and admire the athleticism and larger-than-life personas of these wrestlers.

Omar Dorsey [52:06]: "Booker T was doing a front flip leg. He's one of the most clearly gifted and athletic wrestlers of all time."

They touch on the personal struggles and sacrifices wrestlers face in the industry, reflecting on the intense physical demands and the toll it takes on their lives.

Personal Growth, Advice, and Mentorship

[38:14 - 43:35]
Deontay and Omar provide invaluable advice for aspiring actors and creatives. They stress the importance of continual learning, adaptability, and perseverance in the face of industry challenges.

Omar Dorsey [38:18]: "Just continue studying the craft. You always have to continue to grow."

Deontay emphasizes the role of mentorship, sharing how influential figures like Samuel L. Jackson have guided his career path.

Deontay Kyle [39:01]: "Sam's the biggest box office draw. You always have to work, always work, always."

Upcoming Projects and Future Plans

[85:36 - 87:50]
Looking ahead, Deontay and Omar discuss their plans for live shows, particularly an upcoming event in Jackson, Mississippi, scheduled for February 8th. They express excitement about engaging with their strong fan base in the Southeast and highlight the collaborative efforts that go into their podcast.

Deontay Kyle [85:25]: "We got a book for a live show in Jackson, Mississippi."

They also promote Omar's "Bookies" show, encouraging listeners to tune in and support their projects.

Omar Dorsey [87:47]: "Go watch 'Bookies,' man."

Notable Quotes and Highlights

• Omar Dorsey [00:05]: "Y woke up in the morning and to God be the glory... Grits and Eggs podcast. I'm your host, Deontay Kyle."

• Deontay Kyle [17:22]: "People will always want you to do what you did last. So it's like... I don't want to get pigeonholed."

• Omar Dorsey [20:44]: "Black film is so important to me. 'Queen Sugar' shows that black people are not a monolith..."

• Deontay Kyle [24:32]: "Shout out to Chuck Lorre. He's the greatest comedy writer in television history."

• Omar Dorsey [38:18]: "Just continue studying the craft. You always have to continue to grow."

• Deontay Kyle [39:01]: "Sam's the biggest box office draw. You always have to work, always work, always."

• Omar Dorsey [75:36]: "Kendrick took five years off and came back with 'Mr. Morale,' which was a therapy album."

Conclusion

Episode 45 of the Grits and Eggs Podcast offers a rich and engaging conversation between Deontay Kyle and Omar Dorsey, covering a wide array of topics from acting and media representation to hip hop and wrestling. Their candid discussions provide deep insights into the challenges and triumphs of their respective careers, while also offering valuable advice for listeners aspiring to break into the entertainment industry. The episode not only celebrates their achievements but also underscores the importance of authentic storytelling and continuous personal growth.

For those who haven't tuned in, this episode serves as a comprehensive exploration of the intersections between pop culture, personal narrative, and the evolving landscape of media representation.

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Stay tuned to the Grits and Eggs Podcast for more raw and unfiltered conversations each Thursday. Follow Deontay Kyle and Omar Dorsey on their social media platforms to keep up with their latest projects and live shows.

Transcript

[Deontay Kyle]

You.

[Omar Dorsey]

Y woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty so with a dirty mouth my knee orbit miss thing things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my no rest she gorgeous as I doubt my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead tell them we going to get this money to my pockets morbid remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't got to like a regardless baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me. We like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee flick your cigarette and let a vent yeah, we back. Oh we back. Grits and Eggs podcast. I'm your host, Deontay Kyle. But who's behind the camera? Big D, Bucket hat Taylor. Port cat, Big ice cup. Look man, we got a special guest in here today. We ain't even gonna do the normal intro. You seen him on Queen Sugar Raising Canaan. Seen him in Snowfall. Stop OG from shooting up the mechanic shop. Seen him on Selma. Yes, but he is the current co star of bookies and they just got renewed for season two.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes, sir.

[Omar Dorsey]

From the deck eastside, Omar Dorsey, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let go, baby. You know what? I'm gonna tell you something right now, D. I feel so blessed because my big homie who just passed away, Tony Todd is looking down at me right now, right? Hey, he just passed. It's crazy.

[Omar Dorsey]

Cause I say his name five times.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't gonna say his name five times, man. But he might come back the candy mane. I'm gonna say it one time, but it's crazy cause like we have this amazing group text, right? It's like 18 of us. It's some of your favorite actors in that joint. And he just passed. He's in the group text and we just took him out to group text. Cause I don't know who has the phone now, you know what I'm saying? But like, yo, no, he's looking down at me and I love him, man. Like I said, he just passed away. So I feel blessed right now.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, man. Legendary actor Tony Todd, man. Scariest villain to me. I always tell him that's the scariest villain.

[Deontay Kyle]

He the realest one. Caprini Green.

[Omar Dorsey]

Capri Green.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm talking about, man. Caprina Green. Scary as. Anyway, I don't know if y'all been to south side of Chicago, but pretty scary place. Shout out.

[Omar Dorsey]

I've been to Kirkwood.

[Deontay Kyle]

Exactly.

[Omar Dorsey]

I got an idea.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Bruh, how you feeling, man?

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, I feel great, bro. I'm glad to be here, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

I'm glad to have you, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bro, I remember, like, when I reached out to you a few months ago, I was like, man, it's my favorite podcast, man. It's my favorite show. He was like, damn, you with us like that. I was like, yes. Cause you sound like my folks, you know, some all the way in la. I'm like, man, I like hearing. I like hearing my. My accent, you know what I'm saying? In an intelligent, funny, relevant ass podcast, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

You know, that's what we do down here, though. Georgia shit, bro. I ain't never been around a whole bunch of Georgia, nigga. That wasn't smart. Cause they grandma raised me to be smart.

[Deontay Kyle]

That part, bro. Yeah, man. Nah, it's beautiful, man. I'm proud of you.

[Omar Dorsey]

I pull up with the Michael Vick, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

I pull up with the Michael Vick jersey on these show. What happened? Say something. And I dare a white person say something to me. Goddamn. I might goddamn walk my pug out this mug.

[Omar Dorsey]

We back.

[Deontay Kyle]

I just play with y'all white people. I love y'all. I'm so glad y'all watch Bookie. I love y'all.

[Omar Dorsey]

I'm new to.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what? I'm white people. I'm new to white people right now.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, you on there with Sal Velasco.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, I'm with that. Well, Maniscalco, I used to be on this show called Eastbound and Down, right? And pause that. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Great show.

[Deontay Kyle]

Great show.

[Omar Dorsey]

Great show, man. Danny. What's Danny McBride? Funniest white people of all time, yo.

[Deontay Kyle]

And he great. So he created, like. You know, I was in all the Halloween movies. The last three Halloween movies, I played a chef with a cowboy hat, and he created that, cuz. He wrote Eastbound and Down. He started Eastbound and Down, and he wrote all the Halloween movies. And I text him one day, I was like, yo, I love Righteous Gemstones. It's a great show. He's like, yo, oh, I got something for you, man. I was like, what? He's like, I'm doing this new Halloween trilogy. I want you to come in for. For the first one and, you know, just thug it out with us. And people liked it so much, he put me in all three of them. He ain't even killer, brother, man. I love that, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Hold on. You got the LL Cool J car?

[Deontay Kyle]

I got the LL Cool J, bro. I got all. I was in all three of them joints.

[Omar Dorsey]

We not killing this, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yep.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, we ain't killing this, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's keep him in.

[Omar Dorsey]

Keep this in there, man. He gotta live. He gotta live.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo, they was about to kill me in the third one. And then I remember the. What's my what? What? The head of the studio was like, yeah, we got the kid after we was at the premiere for the second one. He's like, you know, you gotta die in the third one. I'm like, yeah, I'm quite sure. But they did not kill me. As a matter of fact, I was arrested. Reason that Michael Myers got murdered. Got killed. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, damn, that was dope. Yeah, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Hey, look, I'mma tell you, bro, a. A real pull that you did that everybody know, especially, like, millennials. This is like a real millennial podcast. But we got reached to, like, Damn near like, 50, 60 year olds and like, 18, 19 year olds, cuz. You know, I love the young.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

But for the millennials, is that drum line speaking.

[Deontay Kyle]

That ass sp in that ass. Yo, it's so crazy. I was talking to somebody yesterday. They were like, yo, the reason I went to college was because of Drumline. It was like the reason I wanted to go to college. It's called people my generation. I want to go to college. Cause a different world, right? But Drumline to that next generation to y'all was like the one that was like, man, I want to go to a black college. I want to go see the, you know, battles of the bands and all that stuff, man. So that was. That's a beautiful reason to even be in it. And my man Charles Stone directed. I just got finished doing a show with Nick Cannon. He has a spade show.

[Omar Dorsey]

Oh, okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. So I just got finished doing that joint. Whooped his ass. Me and my man Woody McLean. Listen, bro, Eastside like a mom. Yeah, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

But no, the craziest thing about Drumline to me is, like, my dad is actually like, over, like, auxiliary services and parking at Winston Salem State.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, dope. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And his wife, my mother in law. Not mother in law, stepmother.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

She is like a doctorate math professor. Yeah, she runs over, like, all the math programs in the southeast. Yeah, over HBCUs.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, dope. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

So we go to the drum, the battle all the time.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

So seeing that on tv, knowing I'm already been going to them shits. Yeah, but that was so player. I'm from North Carolina.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes, sir. With the mink on that. Yeah, bro. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

I didn't go to college, but it's all good. Yeah. The experience.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I went to a real Atlanta college.

[Deontay Kyle]

The streets, the outside. The outside. I got my doctorate in that.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah. Told me I had. I had. Long story short, got out of jail, got a Fortnite.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

License.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then I got a cdl.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

It was like. A CDL is like a street master's.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, it really is, though, bro. I'm gonna tell you, man, like, anybody who I know with a cdl, they living, okay? They're living. They're l. Better than people with masters.

[Omar Dorsey]

Look, bro, we here now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Hey, we back.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

You see it. We back. Look at us. We doing our.

[Deontay Kyle]

We bike.

[Omar Dorsey]

We bike.

[Deontay Kyle]

We bike.

[Omar Dorsey]

We didn't build it.

[Deontay Kyle]

As my wife would say. She look. My wife from making. She say everything bike. You know what I'm saying? That corch. All that stuff.

[Omar Dorsey]

My grandma from Thomas, enjoy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, I know. Thomason.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, bro. Day.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Everybody don't know about Nicky Day, bro. That's funny.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

I want to say, you know, outside of, like, the accolades and things like that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

What's. Like. What did you feel like was one of your, like, breakthrough roles?

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what? Like, my first movie was a movie road trip. Right. I was in college when we did that was a Tom Green. It was my man Todd Phillips, who directed. I've been in three Todd Phillips movies. I was in school for Scoundrels. I was in Starskin Hutch with Snoop. I played. I played Snoop's genius bodyguard who's a black panther. Yeah. But, like, yeah, I've been all the. I all that.

[Omar Dorsey]

You got so much facial recognition. It's crazy. This like a. When you reached out for one, I was already, like, elated, cuz I'm watching bookies already. But you reaching out. I was like, oh, this is crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Then, you know, you start chopping it up.

[Omar Dorsey]

You start chopping it up at cigar lounge, smoking cigars, putting the sticks in there.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

But I think just the.

[Deontay Kyle]

And shout out to my home girl, Tiffany Howard, man. She the one who put me on, y'all, man. Shout out to her, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Shout out Tiffany Howard. I think more than anything, it's like we got people like Bo King Woodmon, who I mentioned before. It's like so many people know they face, but they don't know the name. I feel like with this situation, the name Omar Dorsey gotta be a household name.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's gonna be there, man. Like, I think even it comes outside of the work. It comes from, like, commercials or, like, doing, like, I'm A brand spokesman for something. You know what I'm saying? Cause I ain't gonna do no wild shit. You ain't gonna see me on tmz. You know what I'm saying? I'm fucking calm. You know what I'm saying? I live a boring ass life.

[Omar Dorsey]

We gotta get Dion Cole out of the way.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, Dion, my brother. Matter of fact, I'm saying, dion, tonight.

[Omar Dorsey]

We gotta get you the whole Spice commercial.

[Deontay Kyle]

Dion is my brother. He one of my best friends. I'm seeing him tonight. That's why I'm going to stay, for him to go see his ass tonight.

[Omar Dorsey]

Man. That. That. That. That he just did on Netflix. Yeah, I know. It was.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, my. Him and my boy. Are you talking about Average Joe, bro? That was my show last year. The crazy thing about it, though, D, is like, they couldn't promote it. Cause we was on strike last year. That's why nobody. We couldn't promote Bookie last year. Cause we was on strike. We couldn't say shit about it. But him and my man, Malcolm Barrett, my girl Cynthia. Yo, they killed that show. That was my favorite show BT's ever done outside of New Edition.

[Omar Dorsey]

I felt like with that show, it's like there's been tropes of black shows. This was like, Average Joe is black people just being black, being black just being regular. It don't have to be no rhyme or reason to. Just like, my dad used to own this shop. I'm in here in the shop, then I find out all this dirty work. It's such a great.

[Deontay Kyle]

I love that show. And they going to South Africa. Matter of fact, they leaving in, like, a couple of weeks. But I was like, I'm trying to get on that, mother. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to get on that joint.

[Omar Dorsey]

Season two of that mother.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, Everybody start shooting season two, like, in the. A couple weeks in the top of January. So, like, I love that show, man. And like I said, shout out Dion. That's one of my brothers. I hang out with Dion so much. But I will take that Old Spice while you in Africa.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah. Yeah, y'all. Let's get. Let's get on my dirt in the Old Spice. I can see it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

So that's the time. But that's how you, like, try. You cross over. It's outside of the work. It's the other things that you do. My favorite actor of all time is Sam Jackson. You know what I'm saying? And it's like he was always that guy to me. Even when he was doing, like, one or two lines and, like, coming to America, he had. You know, he was robbing the goddamn McDowells or he was in, like, school days or any of those Spike Lee movies. Nobody knew who he was. I knew who he was. I was a young actor. I was a young person acting student, and I was like, this is the guy who I'm always drawn to for some reason. There's something about him. And it wasn't until he worked with Quentin on. What was that? Pulp Fiction, that people started knowing who he was when he did Pulp Fiction, and the whole world knew who he was.

[Omar Dorsey]

Right? Yeah. I want to get back into Quentin Tarantino for one, but you just mentioned, as a young student actor, where do you come from? Where do you get introduced into acting?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

How do you even get started in acting? Especially, like, we know Atlanta now is like a.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a hug.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's a hug. But it wasn't always. It was always. You either had to go to New York or la. Hollywood. Right. So how did you get your start in acting?

[Deontay Kyle]

So what it was. My mother was a theater director. So my mother is water broke. While she was in rehearsal directing shows, her water broke. With me, I was. I was born for the stage. You know what I'm saying? Straight up, man. Straight up. So my mother was my first acting teacher. She was my acting teacher. She was my brother, Dorian Mystics, acting teacher, who's an amazing actor. He has his own show on Amazon now, But she was the acting teacher to all of the people who were in Decatur at the time. And she was acting. She was an acting director outside. So that's always what I've always done. Then I went to DeKalb School for the Performing Arts for high school. Then I went to college, got my degree in theater. Then I went to goddamn grad school, got my degree in film. I thought I was gonna be a director, but when I got to college is when I got auditioned for Road Trip and Drumline. I was in college when I did the movies. You know what I'm saying? I was in College. This is 1999 and 2000. I was still in. I was in. I was still in college, so. But I thought I was gonna be a director. And I was like. I was doing all the student films when I was in grad school, and they were like, yo, you are the best actor in the director program. Like, you don't even. You ain't that good of a director, but you're a really good ass actor.

[Omar Dorsey]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

So I was like. So I switched it up and just got my master' in acting. My concentration was an actor, the MFA program, but. So that's how it was.

[Omar Dorsey]

But was it hard for you to like if you already have your mind made up? But how was it making the pivot if you, if you had this dream about being a director.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And acting being secondary.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Omar Dorsey]

Was it hard for you to make that pivot and just be like, kind of be humble about taking advice from outside. Cause you already got your mind made. Like, I'm gonna do this.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, the crazy thing is this, right when I was. You always wanna do what your parents do, right? In my mind. Cause my daughter, even when my daughter went to Howard, she went to Howard to be in the acting program. She was a way better director and like storyteller than she was an actor. She's a good actor.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But ever since she was like seven or eight years old, she was shooting films with her Barbie dolls and tell. And I was like, yo, she gonna be a. If she wanted to be a director, she'd be cold at it, you know what I'm saying? So by the time she got to college and like her senior year, she was the one who was in the acting program, but she was directing all of the films. And then. So that's the same way with me. I was like, man, I really wanted to be a director. Cause I wanna be like my mom. But I really love acting. I really like, like stories. I like taking myself out of something and play acting. As a kid, I was like that way. I was like, I want to just act like I'm Clarence Williams iii and you know what I'm saying? And Tales from the Hood or something. You know what I'm saying? Welcome to hell. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is the type of. That I wanted to do.

[Omar Dorsey]

But this ain't no funeral.

[Deontay Kyle]

This ain't no funeral. This ain't what he said.

[Omar Dorsey]

Hold on. He said the best. He said, bro, this ain't no funeral home neither. Welcome to hell.

[Deontay Kyle]

Exactly, bro. You know, so I used to play like that when I was young, like just playing around. And so I was like, this is really what I'm supposed to be doing. Same thing with my daughter. My daughter went to school to be an actress, but she's a really good director. She's great at taking pictures and she's great at frames, you know what I'm saying? So I was like, yo, you are supposed to do what you're supposed to do right.

[Omar Dorsey]

You know, your passion, whatever you. I be telling my sons this, bro. My baby, she ain't really to a place where I can really drop them gems on them.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

She just getting spoiled.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

But my boys, I tell them all the time, like, don't let people tell you you can be anything.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Omar Dorsey]

You can be what you good at.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Because you might wanna like, what you saying. Yeah, I wanna be a director. But you so good at acting, it's like. No, dive into that. Don't look at directing as a weakness. Right, Div? The strength that you have as an actor.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

So like, I always try to push that forward. Like I was doing the rapping thing, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And I feel like the thing is with rapping, it's a ceiling on personality.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

You kind of gotta be. Niggas don't respect it. If it ain't tough, it ain't fair or it's hard. So like the full range of who I am doesn't really come through as a rapper, but as a podcaster, I can show you everything that I got. Like, and it could be improv and it could be comedy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. It's comedy intellectual.

[Omar Dorsey]

But in a, in a 16 bar song or 32 bars, you don't really get to showcase all that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Omar Dorsey]

So I had to learn how to pivot right into this.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then I just started seeing the fruits of it, like multiply instantly.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

So I get that. But I wanted to ask like, as far as like, like challenges that you incurred.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Getting into the industry.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Omar Dorsey]

What, what I mean, when you, when you get the ball rolling.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

What's some of the obstacles that you felt like you had to overcome?

[Deontay Kyle]

The obstacles of this. Right. People will always want you to do what you did last. So it's like if I'm in. When I was in Ray Donovan, man, I was probably like one of the best gangsters. But it was such a smart ass gangster. It's just like, yo, I can just, you know, and he was funny, he was smart, but he was insane. He was a psychopath. Right. So they like, yo, we want you to do that every time out. I ain't trying to get pigeonholed, man. You know what I'm saying? It's an image that we have to have, especially being a black man. Right. We like, man, I can't just always play the gangster. So it took me, like, I'll tell you what, I damn near didn't work for a year. Cause all they were offering me was gangsta, right? It took Ava to be like, yo, I wrote this. I did. I was doing. It's funny. I was doing Selma and I was doing Ray Donovan at the same time. So I'm shooting Selma in Atlanta, flying to LA every weekend to do my scenes. They had to like, open it up that do my scenes on Saturday and Sunday. I have to fly back to Atlanta to finish Selma on Mondays through Fridays. But so when I met Ava, when I started working with Ava, she was like, I created something for you. I created the greatest black man who's ever been on television, Hollywood desine on Queen Sugar. Cause I was like, this is the next thing I want to do. I don't want just people to always see me as a specific way. You know what I'm saying? Even with doing Eastbound and Down comedy, doing Selma or doing. I've been in four Oscar winning movies. It had leads in two of them, you know what I'm saying? And I tell you what, when I did Harriet, I was the bad guy in Harriet. I was a slave catcher. Every nigga on Twitter wanted to kill me. That shit was wild as shit. I was like, yo, but they ain't.

[Omar Dorsey]

Show you no love, but they ain't give you no grace for the role you played in Django. That's crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

They ain't even no, yo, I'm in Harriet at the same time, I'm in Queen Sugar playing the best man in the world. Yeah, I killed Janelle Monae and Harriet. And yeah, I was trying to shoot at Cynthia Rivio a Revo, you know what I'm saying? But it's like, they give me no grace for nothing, man. They call me all kinds of cools and everything. I was like, well, maybe I did my job too good.

[Omar Dorsey]

No, no, no, that. That's great acting.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's great acting, but it hurt my feelings a little bit. Then I was like, oh, then my. Then I think Sam Jackson is like, yo, you did your job.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's the job.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is the job. Cause like, when he was in Django, everybody hated him. But he had so much. He had so much, like, work behind that.

[Omar Dorsey]

I would think the. The biggest thing you compare. Compare that to since she wasn't raising Canaan and it is in the power universe.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

What's your boy? What's your boy? Tariq?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, they hated him. Yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

You doing such a good job at acting. Yeah, niggas think that's who you are.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think that's who you are. And I know young boy like Tariq, man. They be like, they was Trying to.

[Omar Dorsey]

Come at him, they was really like, he's a child.

[Deontay Kyle]

What are we doing here, man? Like, yeah, he killed ghosts. It is what it is.

[Omar Dorsey]

Well, it's just like niggas trying to call Indiana Jones. It's like, they don't. The film. Film can feel so real.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Like, I think that's why, like, my love of film comes from the fact that, like, you watch. You watch, like, the pursuit of happiness.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Omar Dorsey]

And you really will feel like you can do anything.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, for sure.

[Omar Dorsey]

So it's like, film is very impactful. Like, especially, like, when you see yourself in it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Like, that's why black film is so important to me. Your role is Hollywood, and Queen Sugar is extremely important because it shows. It shows like, that it kills the narrative of black people being a monolith.

[Deontay Kyle]

Exactly.

[Omar Dorsey]

But it also shows very nuanced relationships that we have, because Queen Sugar is just full of nuanced relationships.

[Deontay Kyle]

The whole shit is about nuanced relationships.

[Omar Dorsey]

And it's about generational wealth and people that we decided to go do our own thing. But we've been called back to this place where we all come from, and now we have to, like, take all these lives that we've been living on our own and trying to insert ourselves in this.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Omar Dorsey]

And we struggling to do it, but we doing it together.

[Deontay Kyle]

But we doing it together, and that's.

[Omar Dorsey]

The most important shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

So I like, bruh, it strike me to, like, think about your experiences in Hollywood and through all these different films. If you had to name, like, maybe, like, your top three memorable experiences, just whether it be a role that you landed or just being on a set.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

What would you say that was number one?

[Deontay Kyle]

Would probably be Selma, because I'll tell you what, I did this movie. I did Selma. Right? Man, didn't nobody know who we were, you know what I'm saying? Nobody really knew David Oyelowo. Nobody knew Lakeith Stanfield. Nobody knew me. Nobody knew Colman Domingo. Nobody knew Tessa Thompson. Nobody knew who else? Everybody knew Common, but they didn't know him as an actor like that. You know what I'm saying? Andre Holland. Nobody knew.

[Omar Dorsey]

He was all great actors.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's the.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's like an all star. Colman Domingo, Coleman is the madness is crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

That boy's a beast. He's a beast. He's cold, yo. And like, everybody knew Niecy Nash, but nobody knew her as a dramatic actress.

[Omar Dorsey]

Right. Because they were seeing her on.

[Deontay Kyle]

On Reno 911.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, but the show that she has on she got a Netflix show too.

[Deontay Kyle]

The one she did. Well, she had the show. She had, she had the. But the one that she won the Emmy for was the Jeffrey Dahmer joint. You know what I'm saying? Like cold. Yo, and she got nominated for. We did. When. We did. When they see us. I was, I was one of the leads of that joint.

[Omar Dorsey]

And she got nominated the FX with Travis Kelce in it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo, so my wife directs that.

[Omar Dorsey]

Grotesque.

[Deontay Kyle]

Grotesque. Yeah. She's a beast, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Bro, all these actors you just named self included.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. So indeed we got the 10 year anniversary coming up on January 18th in LA. And it's like, yo, after 10 years, like now we are the industry.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? It's like Coleman been nominated for the Oscar. Lakeep been nominated for the Oscar. Coleman going to be nominated for another Oscar. Niecy done. Niecy. Niecy and Coleman done both won Emmys. It's like, yo, we're here now. But Ava was the one that put it together. So that's the number one to me.

[Omar Dorsey]

Selma.

[Deontay Kyle]

Selma, number one. Number two is Django. Because it was so much fun. I felt like just like being in New Orleans and being with Jamie Foxx and being with Leonardo DiCaprio and Christoph Waltz and being with all these people. It was a straight up and down dude show.

[Omar Dorsey]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Kerry Washington might have been the only woman on the movie, but we was having so much fun doing that movie. And just like, you know, I'm learning so much from everybody. Cause at that time I just wanted to be a sponge, you know what I'm saying? So that's probably number two and probably number three is like right now bookie. Because it's like I'm the co lead of a show and it's on my back and I'm like the guy who everybody on set comes to. And I know like if it succeeds or if it fails, it's on me, you know what I'm saying? And I always wanted that.

[Omar Dorsey]

I think deservingly so.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

I think the just position of your character on there.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Being like this strong, tough. The king of the tracksuit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes. You know, king of the tracksuit. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

But also like going home and listening to your grandma flirt with a.

[Deontay Kyle]

Dude.

[Omar Dorsey]

Bruh. It's so funny because it's like, bro, this a tough guy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And it's like you and the way you and Sebastian like navigate.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Being like novice bookies.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes, yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

Like trying to figure it out. But it's like running into all These pitfalls. Yeah, but then also it's like you keeping it light. It's funny.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

But it's also like the. The moments that are serious are very clearly serious, for sure. And then.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause somebody dies damn near every episode, you know what I'm saying? It's like a comedy, but somebody gets killed every episode.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then being renewed for another the season is a testament to the show because they not doing that.

[Deontay Kyle]

They don't do that.

[Omar Dorsey]

There's some great shows that we've only got one season of. So I just think the part that stick out to me is just what your character is. How you just ride. You may criticize, but you riding.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm riding. It is what it is.

[Omar Dorsey]

You going, but then going home and then being at granny house and granny just got done.

[Deontay Kyle]

Give me the business at all times, bro. This shit is a love.

[Omar Dorsey]

You ain't no bookie when you walking. I think it's just such a real depiction of like how life is.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's life, man, for sure. I always say this. It's like one third of the show is at Danny's house, Sebastian's character. One third is at Ray's house, my character. And one third of it is us being like, you know, collecting money and talking shit so we can see these guys who are bookies, you know, in the streets of la, you know, you know, having to do what bookies do, but then they gotta go home. You know what I'm saying? So that's what I like about it. And shout out to Chuck Lorre. Chuck Lorre is probably the greatest comedy writer in television history. Created two and a half man, Created Big Bang Theory, created some of the greatest shows. You know, Bob and Albushola. So, you know, he created this show and this is his baby. It's crazy. The man is 72 years old, but he's on set every day. You wouldn't know he's 72. Cause he be fly as hell with his damn Travis Scott. Travis Scott's on and shit. So he just fly all the time. But no, it's just a testament of their writing and how they understand characters, how they understand relationships.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, I think that that's funny to me. Just because we was talking about Bill Nye.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, so Bill. Yeah. Yo, you know he's my next door neighbor, right? Yo, this bruh, that's my next door neighbor.

[Omar Dorsey]

Listen, bro, I will show you a.

[Deontay Kyle]

Picture of us on Halloween.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's something. What's been happening over like the last 10 episodes. Yeah, it's like we'll be talking about something and something that happened that'll be in such alignment.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

We was literally just talking like, bro, the Bill Fly. Bill, not Bill.

[Deontay Kyle]

He flied in a mug, bro. I'm getting twisted, bro. This is my next door neighbor. We live right next door to each other. Literally. This is. Yo, this is. We live next door to each other. This is Halloween. Bill is my. Bill. Bill. Bill. That's my dog. That's my dog, man. Yo, straight up. He's my next door neighbor. We. You know what? You know what me and Bill do?

[Omar Dorsey]

Be smart, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

What me and Bill do, man? Cause no, neither one of us are ever in town, so we'll see each other. You in town? Oh, yeah. We go sit on his porch. He'll drink his martini, I'll drink my whiskey. We just sit there and pontificate all day, all night. That's my dog. And he is. Cause he from the southeast, D.C. so. So when my daughter was going to Howard, he was like, oh, man. Yo, he a real one. Bill from the. Bill is from the hood. And he will tell you that retired deny.

[Omar Dorsey]

Bill Fly. That's his name. Bill Fly.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bill Fly, bro. That's my cat, man. I love Bill. I love Bill with Omar.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's my Bill Fly, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

All right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

This is. This is selfish, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Now, as far as Quentin Tarantino movies go.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

He has to me the best dialogue, period, point blank.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's my favorite writer, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

He's the best. Okay. If we go directors.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Period. He's my favorite.

[Deontay Kyle]

But.

[Omar Dorsey]

But unbiasedly, he's the best. So hateful8 is my favorite movie.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, no. For real? Yeah. That's wild. Really? Hateful Eight is. Listen, I'm telling you, that's a dialogue ass movie, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

I'm gonna tell you. And the only way I watch it is on the Netflix extended version.

[Deontay Kyle]

Word. It's all the words in that.

[Omar Dorsey]

Just words.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is words, man. It's a play. It's a play.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's a play.

[Deontay Kyle]

And so it's like. What was the first one? Reservoir Dogs is a play.

[Omar Dorsey]

Reservoir Dogs. And then you go into Jackie Brown. I love Jackie Brown.

[Deontay Kyle]

That might be my favorite.

[Omar Dorsey]

So him. So just on sticking to Sam Jackson.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And like how Quentin always just gave him such a leading role in those things.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Omar Dorsey]

But if we go from Pulp Fiction where he gets a prominent role, to Jackie Brown where he. Another prominent role.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Now with Django.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

To circle back to Django with you and how fun. You said that set was oh, my God. But then the ability. A lot of people had criticism about like, n being in there.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

But to me, it's like how you think people talk?

[Deontay Kyle]

How do you think they talk, man?

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, no, this is like. And it was tasteful to me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And Leo playing everybody.

[Deontay Kyle]

Calvin, candy dog, Listen.

[Omar Dorsey]

I have never seen a movie.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Where everybody smoked. They roll.

[Deontay Kyle]

Smoked it, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

Like, you can't leave nothing. No stone left unturned.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was so wild.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's damn near a perfect movie.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was, yo, when we filming it, right? I said, I don't know who gonna get nominated for the Oscar, yo. I was like, I don't know. Like, I know Kristoff is. It's Django's movie, right?

[Omar Dorsey]

Is it Kristoff? Is it Jamie? Is it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause Kristoff won the Oscar.

[Omar Dorsey]

Is it Leo?

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, man, listen, bro, they was in that throwing 100 miles an hour.

[Omar Dorsey]

They was.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo, I remember the first day that I worked with Sam. Sam came out there and stalked, you know, I was one of the Mandingo. He's like, man, we gonna burn the goddamn. We gonna burn the house. Burn. You gonna let this. Who this nigga on his neck. I was like, yo, it took everything in and not to laugh. Cause he is so funny in that character, you know? But like, just working with like you said, Quentin, man. Quentin is a player on dialogue and on soundtrack.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo, he's ridiculous, man. I love Quentin.

[Omar Dorsey]

I've watched because. Because like, I have an aspiration to write and direct, right? You gotta study the best.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta study the best, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then he did.

[Deontay Kyle]

He studied the best.

[Omar Dorsey]

Well, a part of me went into studying and realize who he studied.

[Deontay Kyle]

He studied Kurosawa, he studied Woody Allen. He studied. He studied the best, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

When I tell you this is a.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cold, yo, he's so cold, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

You can't. You can't fade him like Django. Even with all his criticism, it's still hold of his. Like, bruh, put it on now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

No, put it on.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a western, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's a real Western. Yes, it's actually a Western. It's actually a love story.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes, it's a love story.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then. But you get into like these nuances that are like very time specific. And he nails it all the way where you feel like you are in that time period. But it also doesn't feel dramatic as like Color Purple, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

There's a hint of comedy in that.

[Omar Dorsey]

Shit, but there's dignity.

[Deontay Kyle]

There's dignity. Especially with Django, man. God, With Jamie's character. That's my dog.

[Omar Dorsey]

Think about that. Think about somebody taking a movie and putting in time. Step as an ex slave turned bounty hunter.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

To be around somebody that respected him just as a human in Kristoff's character. To, like, come in the face with how. How much Leo's character respected Sam's character.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

This was. It's phenomenal.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. What's your favorite? So what you say hatefully is your favorite Tarantino movie?

[Omar Dorsey]

Because I. Because I want to learn how to do dialogue. Yes. I would say between Django and, like, Jackie Brown. Yeah, we. We in there. Like a top three. I always say hateful eight. Because it is.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a dialogue ass movie, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Listen, man, let me tell you something.

[Deontay Kyle]

And you gotta be. You gotta. You gotta roll with Quentin. If you. If you trust Quentin, you gotta roll.

[Omar Dorsey]

You gotta trust.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Trust him, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

When it unfolds.

[Deontay Kyle]

When it unfolds, when it start unfolding.

[Omar Dorsey]

Oh, it never stops.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

But I think everything is so intentional along the way that it's like, if you really love it, you really love film and you don't mind the dialogue, you'll understand, like, everything is leading up to something.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Omar Dorsey]

Because when you find out niggas been in the floor the whole time.

[Deontay Kyle]

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

My kids, my kid's mother.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

She'd be like, what are we gonna watch? She was like, don't put that hateful hey on, please.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

She's like, you never play the short version.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, no, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

Now we gotta go long version. She'd be like, well, look, you can watch that. I'm going to sleep.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

She not gonna make it through 15 minutes. But it's like every time I put it on, I'm all the way locked in. But it's just like. I think it's just such a master class and, like, dialogue.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then like, even, like, how Sam Jackson's character is interacting with Kurt Russell. What's that?

[Deontay Kyle]

Walton Goggins.

[Omar Dorsey]

Walton Goggins in the carriage when they. On the way there.

[Deontay Kyle]

You talking to the lady.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah. She getting her ass whooped all the time. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

But she's still talking.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're talking the whole time.

[Omar Dorsey]

I also understood, like, my play coming.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, my play coming. Yes, yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's just. It's. It's such a good film. And I. I wanted to ask you too, about, like, so just so you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Know, Jackie Brown and Pulp Fiction are my two, man. And Pulp Fiction changed my life. It changed my life. Cause I Was like, oh, you can make a movie like this out of sequence and just great dialogue and funny and scary and violent at the same time. Like, Quentin is the shit. I love fucking kill Bill, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Listen. Okay, so we didn't even get into that. See, I be getting caught up.

[Deontay Kyle]

I could talk about Quentin all day. I love that dude, man. I have the last line in Django. Who killed that nigga? Now, who was that nigga? Is what the last line of the movie? You watch the movie, it's me in a cage. Who was that? And it says, django pops up right now. And Quentin told me that was at the premiere. He's like, you're gonna be so happy when you see the end of this movie. I said, what you talking about? He said, just wait. And I said, oh, I got that. I got the tagline of the movie.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's crazy, dog.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, but.

[Omar Dorsey]

But see this. The thing is, like, I was saying, bro, you have such a face. Car in the industry, straight up. Yeah, it's. It's. And. And you've. There's a thing of, like, about being, like, black famous, right? And it's like we have our own, like, stars and shit like that. But I think that the way that you've been able to be consistent as a working actor and then segue yourself into, like, bro, you just been patient.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. And just keep doing the work.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's a clear testament to patience.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'll say this. I don't know of anybody who was any black person who was not famous with black people before they became famous.

[Omar Dorsey]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Sam, Denzel, Mackie. All these people was famous with, like, Kevin Hart. They were famous in the community, in the culture first. Right?

[Omar Dorsey]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then we get sent out as we're ambassadors of the culture. Right? Because we're already good. We didn't shit, you know what I'm saying? But it took us to understand how good we are, and then we go out there and we become ambassadors to the culture.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? So it's like, all right, now, we could have probably been doing white shit. You know what I'm saying? So I feel that way. That's how I feel. Like now, like at the Queen Sugar and after Raising Canaan and after the snowfall, all this stuff. Now I can go out and do a bookie, Right?

[Omar Dorsey]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

And they like, where did this guy come from?

[Omar Dorsey]

But you're so established already with us, and then you got real chops. I wanted to circle back to something that what you were saying about Selma.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Because every actor and actress that you name have went on to go become their own stars in their own right. But I also think that it's important to note all of y'all have broken down barriers of, like, black tropes in film.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

And become leads.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

And just being. And just a character being black. And that's it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

You know, living a life, doing the thing. Like even Niecy Nash and Grotesque.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's like this. Just a black woman and her child and their own struggles.

[Deontay Kyle]

The story has nothing to do about.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's nothing to do with black.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And trauma.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's not these tropes or even how you've gone on, like, bookies. Yeah. Criminal. Whatever. But it's like.

[Deontay Kyle]

But is it really a criminal?

[Omar Dorsey]

Is it. Is it. Is it. Because will we. But would it be deemed criminal or antagonistic at all if they were Italian?

[Deontay Kyle]

Exactly.

[Omar Dorsey]

Which is why Sebastian's. He. He leans into it as, like, he makes it neutral.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's fantastic.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

We. I know we wanted to do, like, some. We wanted to talk about the year.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah. The year's been crazy.

[Omar Dorsey]

Before we do that.

[Deontay Kyle]

We can talk about whatever, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's a lot of people that are. That I know. That watch the show that are actors and actresses.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

If you had to give any advice to, like, them.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And coming up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And just stay in the lane. What would that, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just continue studying the craft. I study the craft right now. Like, no matter what, at all times. We on strike. I was in acting class. Everybody like, what the are you doing in the acting class? I was like, I gotta get these jump shots up. You know what I'm saying? I got. I gotta. I gotta keep going because it's not. We're not working right now in Covid. I was like, I'm taking classes or whatever. I just always feel that you should always be working towards something. Right. Because if you're not growing, you're dying. That's any plant, anything. So you. You always.

[Omar Dorsey]

We back talk to these niggas.

[Deontay Kyle]

You always have to continue to grow. Sam. I talk about Sam a lot. He's my mentor, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, my Birthday is the 22nd. Sam's is the 21st. We talking all day, like, you know, we birthday twin. You know what I'm saying?

[Omar Dorsey]

You got the same birthday as my auntie.

[Deontay Kyle]

A word up. Yeah, so it's just like, he told me he's like, Omar, you always have to. You an actor, right? He said, yeah, you're a working actor. Guess what? Sam is the biggest box office draw in the history of motion pictures. A nigga from from Memphis is the biggest box office draw.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then his story, pre acting is crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's crazy. It's crazy. But you know what he overcame?

[Omar Dorsey]

Morehouse.

[Deontay Kyle]

Morehouse, dude, you know what I'm saying? He overcame, you know, whatever struggles he had early in life and, you know, in life and became the biggest box office star of all time. But he told me, omar, always work, always work, always. So you don't never know. You might fuck around and do an independent or might do a short, and you might break, break, break through on something in your mind and in your talent that you never knew that you had. You know, I did Japanese, no theater. I don't even know if you people know what the that is.

[Omar Dorsey]

Look that up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Japanese, no theater. I'm playing a samurai and all kinds of stuff, man. And it made me break through like on some emotional type stuff, you know what I'm saying? It's like damn near one man show. So just always continue working on your craft, man. Don't ever get lazy. Don't ever get lazy. Cause somebody gonna pass you. Cause if you gonna just sit. If you sit and stagnant, somebody else who's running will pass you. I remember I was doing. I suppose I was prepping this show I was supposed to be doing on Broadway. And this was before Jonathan Majors was like, anybody knew who the fuck he was. And I'm up here, I'm on my TV shit. I'm like, I'm the shit. This is before Raising Canaan, and I was working with Patina Miller, who plays the mother on Raising Canaan. And Jonathan came in there killing every time. And I was like, yo, this young dude. And I was like, yo, he's amazing. I told everybody, I said, yo, man, I don't know where he's going, but wherever he's going, he's gonna probably be the biggest actor in the world. You know what I'm saying? He still has the possibility to be that way. He had a little setback, but that boy can go. And I was like, okay. I can't just be stagnant thinking I'm the bomb because I'm on a TV show. Cause there are people who are just as hungry, just as talented, and they gonna keep on going, man. So, yeah, it's my whole thing. Just keep going.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's. I mean, I think that's Amazing advice. I also think. I mean, to your point about Jonathan Majors, like, setbacks gonna happen.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

I think his talent speaks for itself.

[Deontay Kyle]

It does, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

And, you know, I know how this thing goes, so it's gonna take the right person to give him the right opportunity.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

For him to have his resurgence.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

He gonna keep going. I was thinking about what you were saying about what you said. Japanese. What?

[Deontay Kyle]

Japanese? No, theater. Yeah, I know. It's like, I just did all kinds of stuff.

[Omar Dorsey]

But did it create a different process for you as an actor? Do you have a routine or, like, a certain process that you go into it with?

[Deontay Kyle]

So you know what? I don't. I'm not even method like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, you talk about Hateful Eight and talk about Django. One of my really close friends is Walton Goggins. Amazing. Probably y'all watch Fallout, so, you know, Walton is right. He's the one with the face, whatever. But he's in all the Tarantino movies, and he from out here. He from Atlanta. So. I remember we was doing Django, and he was, like, so mean on set. And I was like. He said, omar, I'm gonna tell you something. Meet me on Saturday. Let's go to this restaurant. He's like, omar, you know, I'm not mean. I'm a method actor. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not mean. But he said, I'm playing an asshole, so I can't be buddy buddy with you. I know we both from the same place, you know? And now me and him are super close, and we super tight. But I had to learn that, like, dude, like, everybody has their own process, man. Me, I want to learn my lines. And then when I learn my lines and I know my lines so well, then I can really start. Then the work starts then, you know, I'm saying the work starts at that point, then I can, like, really break it down, because in my head, I always have to be.

[Omar Dorsey]

All over the smoking. I was like, goddamn. Well, I was muting my mic, though. It ain't picking up.

[Deontay Kyle]

It picked up over here, though.

[Omar Dorsey]

Oh, yeah, I heard it.

[Deontay Kyle]

I heard it over here.

[Omar Dorsey]

Gonna call it every time we back.

[Deontay Kyle]

Are you saying I said that once you learn your lines, the work can start right? When you learn your lines, you know your lines, then you can start to play. If we could play no matter where you. You could. I could say them lines underwater. I could say them lines. If I'm. I'm flying out with a parachute on My on my back, I ain't got to think about nothing. Cause it's already in my head so I can play the moment. So that's my whole thing. But everybody has their own process, right?

[Omar Dorsey]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Everybody does. Like some people. Like, there are so many different methods you got. If you want me to get nerdy with it right quick, you got. You got Constantine Stanislavski, you got viola spoling. You got. You have all of these different teachings and all these different ways of learning lines. You got the Stella Adler every. But it's. Whatever process works for you is what works for you in order for you to get there. You know, it's funny, I was talking to somebody today and I was like, yo, everybody is different. Like, a friend of mine was like, yo, I do this. This. I do therapy, like through psychedelics. I said, I do therapy by talking to somebody and getting it off. I say everybody is different and everybody's process is different as long as we get to one common goal. If you're in therapy, however, whatever your breakthrough is, is your breakthrough. So we all. It's like. Like you said the word that you just said earlier. It's not monolithic. We're different. Everybody is different. This is a snowflake. And there's no to our like. So, yeah, that's how it is.

[Omar Dorsey]

Do you feel like you had to travel through a few different processes to find your own?

[Deontay Kyle]

I had to, for sure, because I had. I studied all of them. I studied all of them and it's an amalgamation of all of them. Right, right. So, like, my main thing is about learning from my past, so I can always have that memory and have what that felt like, you know, me losing my brother, the most heart wrenching thing that ever happened to me. You know what I'm saying? Oh, thank you, brother. But that. That pain that I felt at that moment is like. I can always draw back from that. I can channel that. No matter what it is. I know what hurt is. I know what love is. I know seeing a woman deliver my children is like the most. One of the most loving things I've ever seen. This is flesh in my flesh, blood of my blood. So I know that elation, you know, so, yeah, just me keeping all of those thoughts and all those feelings in my head and being able to, like, you know, categorizing, being able to, like, all right, I know what that is. I know what that is. I know what that is. That's my. That's my process, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's been paying off greatly for you. Bro, I think speaking about, like, the process of, like, seeing birth.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

Me seeing it three times. You as well.

[Deontay Kyle]

Three times. Yep.

[Omar Dorsey]

I understand that people like. Like, we'll talk about it in some trivial way of, like, shying away or, like, oh, I don't want to see that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

It is the single greatest thing that I've ever witnessed.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's the greatest gift anybody can ever give you. A greatest gift.

[Omar Dorsey]

To see it three times. And it. And it. And it doesn't get any duller.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Omar Dorsey]

It actually gets greater each time you see it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Omar Dorsey]

Because it's like the power of a woman, too.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

But then also, like, bro, this is. We've all come through this connection.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Like, you seeing yourself.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Omar Dorsey]

This is how I got here. This is how everybody who we know.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Everybody that's ever been born, they come through this same canal. And it's like, I'm in a position where I'm interested. Like these doctors.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

They go to school for all these years, and they entrusted me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

As the father. Help pull that baby and, like, bring that baby into life.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

And cut that umbilical cord.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yep.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's an amazing feeling.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And I think that it actually.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't want to up the cut because I want to be had. No, no. Audi. For the rest of his goddamn life. Looking at me, some kind of sideways face. You did this to me. Can't even go swimming. They got a goddamn silver dollar in his goddamn belly.

[Omar Dorsey]

Nah, nah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Run it back, run it back.

[Omar Dorsey]

Pushing your belly.

[Deontay Kyle]

Tickle me. El.

[Omar Dorsey]

Look pivoting out of acting. And because during the break, you had asked about my favorite wrestler.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

1998. Yeah, 1998. WCW Booker T. Harlem Heat.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's my. I love Book. Shout out to Book, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Favorite.

[Deontay Kyle]

I call that right now. That's my dog, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

Listen, bro, we said this.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's my dog.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's actually like, one of my dream.

[Deontay Kyle]

H. Town like a mother.

[Omar Dorsey]

One of my dream guests to have on.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo, man, Book is that dude, man. He wanted us, too. He wanted us for sure.

[Omar Dorsey]

Look.

[Deontay Kyle]

He wanted us for sure.

[Omar Dorsey]

Shamelessly.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo, you know what? The next time. I tell you what, Next time you.

[Omar Dorsey]

Can put it together.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

The five time.

[Deontay Kyle]

Five time. Five time. That's my dog, bro. I love Book. You know what? It's so funny. I just did some interviews when I was doing the press for season two, and this. I had to do a whole chunket of interviews. And this dude was like, yo, you were the first person I ever interviewed. I used to Work on Booker T's show and used to come on Booker T's show all the time. I was like, yeah, man, Book is the dude, man. I love that dude.

[Omar Dorsey]

Book is the dude, man. I think watching wcw, wwf, growing up, like, especially in, like, that nitro attitude.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes, yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

Book was like, oh, this nigga, like, act like my uncle. He look like my uncle.

[Deontay Kyle]

Uncle. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

He talked like one of my folks, Like Hulk Hogan. We coming for you.

[Deontay Kyle]

You nigga.

[Omar Dorsey]

Is my.

[Deontay Kyle]

Exactly. I ride with book, Mr. Huffman. God damn.

[Omar Dorsey]

He was flexing the whole time.

[Deontay Kyle]

Was cold, too, boy. Man, his wife is real. Charmaine's sis, man. Love. I love that whole family.

[Omar Dorsey]

Booker T Was doing a front flip leg.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, a front flip leg.

[Omar Dorsey]

Drop off the top, bro. The most. One of the most clearly gifted and athletic wrestlers of all time.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo, the Rock said that, too. The Rock was like, yo, he's like the best big man I've ever wrestled.

[Omar Dorsey]

Like, man, you can't fade that, man. Yeah, different type of cat. So as far as, like, him being my favorite, then we gotta go. Then we gotta go like cruiserweights. Eddie Guerrero.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, Eddie was the man. Come on, Latino heat. That's the homie, right? I love that dude, bro. You know what? I used to like the park. The Parker. Yeah, up them Lucho. Them lucha lubes, boy. Them boys was bringing it, man. All them, dog. Hell, yeah. Listen, act a mug.

[Omar Dorsey]

Raven's flock.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes, Raven's flock. Oh, my God, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

What's our boy? Billy Kidman.

[Deontay Kyle]

Billy Kidman. Boy, Billy, man. Billy was a cold one, boy. He was bad.

[Omar Dorsey]

This one, Chris Jericho was cold.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, just pour back on you, man. Yeah, but that was. Yeah, that, that. I tell you what, man. I don't know if you ever read.

[Omar Dorsey]

It with the mullet. Who? Chris with the mullet?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, you know, talk about. We talk about. I like talking about Diddy and. But Chris a cold, though, boy, it was. Was. He was really cold. For real. Damn, bro. Man, you got to be a sick.

[Omar Dorsey]

But, yeah. Yeah, he forever got smut on his name.

[Deontay Kyle]

Forever.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, him and Lex Luger.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Have you seen Lex lately?

[Omar Dorsey]

I don't want to see him.

[Deontay Kyle]

He up. I seen Ron Simmons pushing him in the wheelchair at the airport.

[Omar Dorsey]

And N gotta go see Diamond Dallas Page.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo, so, yo, this. I'm at this house one day, right? This was like when UGA played against tcu, and Paige was there. I was like, damn, what's up, Paige? We start chopping it up. I was like, bro, I want to come do the yoga with you and everything, man. Diamond looks, man. Paige looks tremendous. He might be like 60 something. The dude still looks tremendous, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

He brought Jake the Snake back.

[Deontay Kyle]

He brought Jake the Snake back. Jake was gone.

[Omar Dorsey]

Jake was gone. Hey, if a nigga could bring Jake the Snake back.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, bro, you cold if Jake outlives Scott hall, bro. Well, both of them pretty fucked up. But, yeah, man, like, I think that.

[Omar Dorsey]

That wrestling, man. I think they do a lot of drugs, though.

[Deontay Kyle]

They do a lot of drugs. They do a lot of, like, stuff.

[Omar Dorsey]

As a fan, we realized, like, they really sacrificed.

[Deontay Kyle]

They sacrificing their bodies, man, their mentals, everything.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause Kurt Hennig, when he died, man, that's the animal. Mr.

[Omar Dorsey]

Perfect.

[Deontay Kyle]

Perfect, dog. He was like the perfect wrestler, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, literally perfect.

[Deontay Kyle]

He was perfect, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

If I chew gum, I still spit it out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Spit out. Slap that motherfucker. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Who was your up. Who was your guy growing up, man?

[Deontay Kyle]

Ric Flair. Yeah, Ric Flair. I used to party with Ric Flair, too. I used to party with him and Arne Anderson, man. We used to go to this place called American Pop.

[Omar Dorsey]

Oh, come on.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm a stone, y'all. I'm old. Goddamn. Let me stop.

[Omar Dorsey]

Listen, bro. Yeah, listen, bro. He be getting on me about this all the time.

[Deontay Kyle]

What's that?

[Omar Dorsey]

I be telling, like, when I'm up, like in a up spot, mentally.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

I go play that Four Horsemen thing.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

I be feeling like Arn Anderson.

[Deontay Kyle]

You just walk around. Walk with the foes up, baby. Yeah, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah. Hear them horses start traveling. Listen, man, I be in that 18 wheeler going crazy, nigga. I'm straight.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm straight.

[Omar Dorsey]

I'm with the Four Horses.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm with the boys. Hey, you know what? I thought, like, this is when I was younger, right? I was like 22, 23. I used to think I could drink until I started hanging around with them dudes. I was like, holy shit.

[Omar Dorsey]

I'm gonna tell you one thing for sure. You ain't never out drinking a European, my brother.

[Deontay Kyle]

You have never out drinking Ric Flair. Ric Flair don't give a fuck, man. He gonna get drunk. Drunk. He said the only person out drinking was Andre the Giant, though.

[Omar Dorsey]

Well, look at the BMI on him. Exactly. You ever seen that? Holding a beer. That look like a teacup, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, God damn crushing.

[Omar Dorsey]

They said he was drinking, like 22 bottles of wine a day.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, that's the only way to get him work. The only way to get him drunk, bruh. But they said you get that drunk but you could not. You couldn't even bear with him, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

First of all, don't want to be around a that big.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, bro, you gotta put it. You gotta get a wheelbarrow right? You know what I'm saying? I am not even trying to like, deontay.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's funny because it's like, bruh, every nigga I know that, like, I really with.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Gonna have some type of love for wrestling.

[Deontay Kyle]

I love that shit, bro. Especially being for him, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Man. Cause I think about like, like greatest moments in wrestling. One of the greatest moments is like, you remember Triple H was a heel.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

So everybody hate him.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. But he tore his quad when he came back.

[Omar Dorsey]

When he came that time to play the game.

[Deontay Kyle]

Time to play.

[Omar Dorsey]

I was in the crib spitting water.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ah, listen, bro, my mama was like, stop doing that. I'mma tell you, like, it's going to be funny. My favorite moment in wrestling history. It ain't my favorite moment. The one that just keeps running in my head was when Shawn Michaels looked at Ric Flair in that Wrestlemania. He said, I love you. Then he super kicked that in retirement.

[Omar Dorsey]

I was like, hold on. Do you love him?

[Deontay Kyle]

That's like, man, listen, bro, I think I'm cute. I know I'm sexy. I got the looks. Let's do.

[Omar Dorsey]

Trying to kick that head, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

When that. Yo, when Kendra told That. When Kendra told. When Kendrick said sweet chin music and I walk past the ox, that. That, that. That won the battle for me, man. Listen, I said this. Said sweet chin music and I won't.

[Omar Dorsey]

I was like.

[Deontay Kyle]

Sweet ch music and I won't pass the ox. Like what?

[Omar Dorsey]

Man, that told that. How many stocks do I really have in stock?

[Deontay Kyle]

1, 2, 3, 4, 5 plus 5 is a lie. He a 69.

[Omar Dorsey]

God, that verse, yo, that he was smoking on that.

[Deontay Kyle]

He did, man. I think you think Drake coming back.

[Omar Dorsey]

Not after that. He just did on that stream.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was wild.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's bad. It's a bad look.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

When you start.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause he only hang with white folks. Now, y'all notice that. And he only hang with white folks. It's like, I don't think he. I don't think he with black people no more.

[Omar Dorsey]

I don't think he ever was. Yeah, yeah. Called him a colonizer. Said, watch this.

[Deontay Kyle]

I said, I'm going back home. I said, going back to Europe.

[Omar Dorsey]

We talking about this yesterday. If I was Drake, I'm popping out with a Confederate flag. What's up?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, I know you like that. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

I'm pop out Confederate Flag me and Post Malone.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen. Oh, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

Making bangers.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bangers. And he went. Yep. He might, he might come back up with that one.

[Omar Dorsey]

That might. That man might go. Big Nick beard, bald head. Oh boy, overalls.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, what's that old Dave Chappelle character when he was the.

[Omar Dorsey]

Clayton Biggs.

[Deontay Kyle]

Clayton Biggs.

[Omar Dorsey]

If you got hate in your heart, let it out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo. So I didn't even watch the stream. How was the stream? I saw pieces of it and I was like, what you talking about? Aiden Ross stream you talking about?

[Omar Dorsey]

I never have ever watched the stream. Ever. Not even. Yeah, I'm.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm saying hip hop is dead. Who the is he to say that? Who is he to say that? Why that's the weirdest in the world.

[Omar Dorsey]

He don't have. You know, it's like, first of all, clearly this is, this is posturing, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

First of all, there's no reason that Drake should even be in the same room as him. And then to. To think about the fact that he went and seen Aiden Ross and academics has never met him in real life.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's crazy. That is insane to me, man. And academics is the biggest dude. Well, I mean, Aiden is the biggest on the stream, I guess. I don't.

[Omar Dorsey]

I don't know. I think academics in the hip hop streaming space. He's the biggest.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's the biggest. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And the fact that he won't even go sit down with him is just like, like. But then also this is like colonizer mentality. Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Omar Dorsey]

I got Drake here.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

If he doesn't lose this battle, he never talks to me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right?

[Omar Dorsey]

So because he's in such a low point, he coming to see me to gain favor wherever he can.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right?

[Omar Dorsey]

And then I'mma say rap is dead to appeal to him. Only because he lost the battle.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Omar Dorsey]

And even in that moment, Drake was like, nah. Rap never, never can die.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay, good. He said that.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, he did. But it's like, shut up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

First of all, nobody cares about Aiden Ross or what you think.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

You pay. Then he paid Playboy cardi like some M's to come up there and then he ran off. That's what happened to white people in the street like all the time. You get cap.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

You get capped, you get waxed and then you get the on about your business. But it's like, I don't, I can't. We can't feed too much into it because.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Omar Dorsey]

Who the is Aiden Ross? When has that ever been an opinion on hip hop?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, but it's like the biggest rapper in the world, like, went. Ran over to him, man. That's crazy, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's. It's a testament of how far he's fallen. Let's talk about some great falls in hip hop. Turn that TV off.

[Deontay Kyle]

Turn the TV off. Break this.

[Omar Dorsey]

Peekaboo.

[Deontay Kyle]

Peekaboo.

[Omar Dorsey]

That said better not smut my name. He told you. Told. Don't play with my name. He said, never play with my name.

[Deontay Kyle]

He said, don't with me before I make it to a song. A what? He said, stop playing with me before I'm turn you to a song.

[Omar Dorsey]

Turn that to a song.

[Deontay Kyle]

For real? Yeah, man. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

I think one of the funnier things about, like, this whole beef and how it played out is, like, with gnx.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

You could call them subliminals. He don't even like, he. I'm off that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

But then to have sizzle on certain tracks.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He knew what he was doing with that.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then that 30 for 30 that. They just dropped that.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's a whole. This love song. I was like, God dang, man. That's some petty. I love New York. I love them la, man. Them petty as hell, dog.

[Omar Dorsey]

West first.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, they so. Yo, I don't think that, like. Because I've been living out there for 20 years. They are west first, bro. They don't care. They don't care. They like, man. Cause they so far away from everybody else, right?

[Omar Dorsey]

Exactly.

[Deontay Kyle]

They like, y'all don't with us no more.

[Omar Dorsey]

Literally in their own time zone.

[Deontay Kyle]

They're in their own time zone.

[Omar Dorsey]

What's the most, like, relevant city? When you start going back east, the most relevant city you're gonna come across is what? Houston. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Yep. Texas.

[Omar Dorsey]

You're back in the south already.

[Deontay Kyle]

Back in the South, Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

So it's like they. They exist in their own.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's their own country. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

But I would. I. I've been saying this. That as far as, like, the thing. We love hip hop, right? They've been controlling the post of it, and they've been doing this year. Yeah, yeah. They've been doing it right.

[Deontay Kyle]

They kill this, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

We got Schoolboy Q, Tyler, Vince.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. I mean, Tyler the creator.

[Omar Dorsey]

Tyler the creator.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. That album, that cornucopia, then the hangout.

[Omar Dorsey]

Freestyle you just dropped.

[Deontay Kyle]

He killed that. Oh, my God. I was like, yo, I ain't gonna be blasphemous, but I was like, he might have got Kendrick on this. He murdered that joint, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

The. The dude, Az Chike that was.

[Deontay Kyle]

I like him, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Have you listened to any music that he's put?

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what? After the album, after gnx, I started listening to some of stuff. I was like, yo, this dude can spit, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

It.

[Deontay Kyle]

He got it.

[Omar Dorsey]

You got a song called love your weapons video to that?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

Probably one of the best videos I've seen, just on a cinematography level.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, no.

[Omar Dorsey]

Okay, go check that out. Yeah, bro, It's a sequence. The whole first sequence is played in like. Like 5.7.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay.

[Omar Dorsey]

But he's lining the words up somehow.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then when he gets to the end of it, he's reaching.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then he end up in a mirror. Oh, that.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right. I gotta watch that. You gotta watch that. Yeah, that work. Yeah, yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

He can go.

[Deontay Kyle]

He can go. It's crazy, cuz even with doi. I know she from Florida, man, but, you know, she over there with tde, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

They over there cooking up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cooking.

[Omar Dorsey]

They really do right by their artists, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo, man, that's a. It's crazy. That's like a artist development label.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, truly.

[Omar Dorsey]

Truly one of the only ones left.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And. And we could see that they're harvesting, like, real talent.

[Deontay Kyle]

Real talent.

[Omar Dorsey]

But then actually, like, okay, this is the industry.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Take what you got.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then this is how you got to translate it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And they are executing crazy. Don't you have one of the greatest years in hip hop I've seen in a long time?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Going from, like, seemingly a nobody nobody knew. I mean, people.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Having her own fan base.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

To like, like a star to being.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nominated for, like, rap album. And she might win that bit. I mean, I might. I mean, I'm, you know, I'm from Atlanta. I want Future Metro to win, but she might win that bit because that's a crazy album, that Alligator bites Never Hill, man, that album is insane.

[Omar Dorsey]

And everything she's done on top of it. The late. The late night performance.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Tiny Death performance. Man. I saw the. Have you seen the. The Family Matters joint? Yeah, the. The commercial for that.

[Omar Dorsey]

I was like, crazy. Whoa.

[Deontay Kyle]

What is happening over here, man? Yeah. Yo, yo, the west got it, man. The west is killing right now.

[Omar Dorsey]

Y'all keep coming in and kicking that camera. Can you go make sure the camera, like. I appreciate the water, but.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, but now the west is killing right now, man. I appreciate, like, you said that even with the. Even with the schoolboy album, man. The Blue Lips, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's my favorite album. That's. That's. To me, that's.

[Deontay Kyle]

Your favorite album of the year.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's my album of the year.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay. I love this album.

[Omar Dorsey]

I had Vince, I think we did a top 10 yesterday with Adri. Adri is somebody that's on TikTok, but she's a true journalist of hip hop.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay, Gotcha.

[Omar Dorsey]

Like, on an independent level. She has really well thought out points. So when we was doing the hip hop year end wrap up, I did it with her and bro, we talked for three hours. Yeah, man, but I had dark times in my top 10. I had big X, the plug. Yeah, I love it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Dallas, ain't it?

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, Dallas, Dallas. Who else? Who else we had in that top? Listen, it was tears of it, so. It was tears. But it's an artist named Mac Homie.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know if you know Mac Homie.

[Omar Dorsey]

Like, yeah, Rich ass, Haitian.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes. Yeah, I love Mac Homie.

[Omar Dorsey]

Oh, you my kind of guy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Hey, look, you gotta come back. Yeah. Omar Dorsey, a regular on the Gritson.

[Deontay Kyle]

Exactly, bro. Come on.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, man. Yeah, it's. It's been such a great year for hip hop.

[Deontay Kyle]

It has been, man. It's really been a great year, man. Like, even. It's crazy. Like, do you like the Dream Snoop album?

[Omar Dorsey]

I.

[Deontay Kyle]

You haven't heard it yet.

[Omar Dorsey]

I haven't. I haven't listened to it. I list. I was watching that video and then when they went back to, like, being young, I was like, turn this off.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't seen no visuals on the album.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, they had the visuals. The. The first part of the visual was so dope. Yeah, it was like a. It's like a short film. Yeah, but then they did some like, blast to the past and use some like, AI.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, no, but, but, but the production.

[Omar Dorsey]

It'S Dr. Dre production.

[Deontay Kyle]

Dr. Dre production. It's amazing. Yeah, yeah. And like, you know, I mean, the Snoop, the homie, man, but it's a really good ass album, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

You know, Snoop has always been as far as like, rappers go, he's always been able to find his space no matter what area he's in. Yeah, because we was talking about that yesterday when he got in his, like, reggae era.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Snoop Lion.

[Omar Dorsey]

Snoop Lion.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes, sir.

[Omar Dorsey]

The prodigal son has returned.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes. Yeah. Then he do a gospel album. He did a gospel album a couple years ago. He got nominated for a Grammy.

[Omar Dorsey]

He did it. He's done a kid's album.

[Deontay Kyle]

Snoop Dogg is Snoop Dogg do what the he want to do whatever he wanted to do what the he wanted.

[Omar Dorsey]

He gonna be on that pressure the whole time.

[Deontay Kyle]

Exactly. All the whole time, bro. Yo, we was doing Starskin Hutch, man. I'm gonn something, okay. Hey, I've never been around anybody as famous as Snoop in my life, period. I didn't realize that I'm doing a movie with Ben still and Owen Wilson, but Snoop was the most famous person on that set. And anytime I'm around Snoop, he's larger than life. But he's such a good man, right? My wife directs bmf, so he was. She was like, yo, you know my husband Omar, he's like, omar. Omar's one of the smartest people I know. She was like. I was like, that dude is a whole nother entity. He's something different, man. I love that. But when we were doing Starskin Hutch, he got me so high. Do we. In the trailer, like, you know, you'll hit the blunt or whatever, right? And you put it down, you hit the blunt, another one is coming, right?

[Omar Dorsey]

Then it's like that Cat Williams just. Did Cat say that on that? On the pimp chronicle? Was it like smoking Olympics?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes. It's like they. He wasn't lying. It just keeps going around. I'm like, dude, I gotta say lines. And if you watch Darcy Hutch, I have very difficult lines because I'm a genius Black Panther. I'm talking about Luxembourg's constitutional monarchy established after the Treaty of Vienna. All this crazy ass dialogue, right? And I'm like, man, I'm high as right now. I was so. Dude. Yeah, man. But did you.

[Omar Dorsey]

Did you nail the lines?

[Deontay Kyle]

Of course I did. But I was high, though. And it was. And it was really. If you go back and watch it, it's like, I'm the Black Panther who's Snoop's bodyguard. But I'm saying all this smart. Genius.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And I was just like, man, this is crazy.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's hilarious, bro. To think about that. And. And also to bring up Cat Williams.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Oh, Cat just opening, like the portal of 2024.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cat opened up 2024 with a bang.

[Omar Dorsey]

We was four days in.

[Deontay Kyle]

He was like, look here, let me tell you something. And boy, a lot of that came to fruition, too.

[Omar Dorsey]

It came to fruition, but it was also like. Like, it's one of the most polarizing interviews that's ever been seen.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Period.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

I think he did Shannon such a solid.

[Deontay Kyle]

I bet Shannon made millions off that.

[Omar Dorsey]

I mean, he said it. He.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, he said millions. His long form, it was like 40 million views.

[Omar Dorsey]

40 million views. And then he done chopped up 20 clips yeah, man. And them clips have circulated on social media so many times because he was saying a lot of, like, really profound.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

I think the thing that I took from it, that played out in the years, like, there's. There's God's side and then there's the other side.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

We don't.

[Deontay Kyle]

With the other side. Yeah, yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then we start to just see.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Tons of shit happening.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then I think you play into the conversation with Kendrick.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And Kendrick clearly like, stay, I'm on God's side.

[Deontay Kyle]

He said. He said, cat Williams told you to give you the truth, so I'm gonna give you mine. Ain't that what he said?

[Omar Dorsey]

That's a fact.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, that's a fact.

[Omar Dorsey]

I going back to that beef. We was talking about this last night, so Euphoria.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Probably the best track out the beat, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then the Pop out show, I went to.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was at that bit. I was at that bit. I was there with that Uncle Jerome and. And. And. And what's Jerome? I was there with Amen. Well, we was out that he came and picked me up. He was like, we got tickets to the Pop Out. Let go, dog. We was at that bit.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's hard, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was so much fun.

[Omar Dorsey]

What was the energy like when that euphoria dropped?

[Deontay Kyle]

Because it's the first song he performed. The superpowers getting neutralized. I can only watch in silence. Y'all talking about. It's crazy. Cause this. Everybody in the crowd knew every word to all the dis songs, word for word. And we was all just the superpowers getting neutralized. I can only watch. It was beautiful. It's laughing. Yeah. I'm out the way. I'm low. Okay.

[Omar Dorsey]

He was going crazy, yo.

[Deontay Kyle]

He went nuts, man. Even, like on the. With the 616. 616 in LA, man, it was just him.

[Omar Dorsey]

Such a lyrical performance.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's him and AB. Him and ab he was rapping the app.

[Omar Dorsey]

But then the. The what? Like the connection to Heart part six that he dropped on gnx.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

Saying how he study. Absolutely. To get his. One of the greatest rappers, yo.

[Deontay Kyle]

One of the.

[Omar Dorsey]

His favorite rapper's favorite.

[Deontay Kyle]

His pen is ridiculous. Like, you know him and Daylight, their pins. Are they so complex, man. Like, Daylight is complex as. AB is complex as. And Kendrick is complex. But he knows how to bring it down to make it a hit. You know what I'm saying? But, like, if you want to read poetry, AB is ridiculous, dog. That. That. That was it. Soul Burger.

[Omar Dorsey]

Soul Burgers.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's another one, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

He has so many. Like, he's one of my favorite rappers because the control system, like, really put me in a different space mentally.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And what can be done in rap.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Terrorist threats.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was like, oh, good God. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

I was like, 23, 24.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, we need to get on this.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

But I was. I was thinking in the aspect of, like, one of my biggest criticisms and just the criticism him has always been about. About how he makes albums.

[Deontay Kyle]

Who.

[Omar Dorsey]

Absolutely.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then Soul Burger is a great album.

[Deontay Kyle]

Great album.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's a great album. It's probably one of his, like, most complete albums.

[Deontay Kyle]

It is.

[Omar Dorsey]

That he's ever done. Yeah. And then he was trying and doing commercial sounds.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

But to see him still stick to, like.

[Deontay Kyle]

But you know what. But he said it's not an absolute app. He said it was a Burger album because, you know, his homeboy passed.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

He said it's an album that Burger would have made.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Omar Dorsey]

But, yeah, it was real, bro. Was a testament to his homeboy. That was real.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Speaking of daylight, though, you waiting at the bus stop. I wait until the bus arrived. You wait until the bus stop. Waiting till the bus Sprite went in the bus stop. Now you got the bus stop.

[Deontay Kyle]

Lay with a bus stop.

[Omar Dorsey]

That.

[Deontay Kyle]

That cold, bro. Man, I'm tell you.

[Omar Dorsey]

Crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo, y'all watch battle rap like, a month, so. Man, I'mma tell you, that third verse against Tay Rock, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Man, it's such a dense verse.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's dense as. But if you break, just break. The first two verses were dense as. I was like, yo, you're putting a lot of words into this, man. Yeah, yeah, that last. When he broke all the. The rock bands, the slip knot took a slipknot. Yo, all that.

[Omar Dorsey]

He did, like, 60 rock flips.

[Deontay Kyle]

He did, man. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

He's insane.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, you think I got some more? He said, you think I'm gonna remember? Oh, I got some movies. That's powder dope, that. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

But also, I'm really proud of him.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because he had no money for the Grammy for the J. Cole joint, man. Him, J. Cole, and Epsom.

[Omar Dorsey]

So.

[Deontay Kyle]

He produced that song. He produced the song. And I'm really proud of Daylight, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

I think Life of Pie might be one of the best rap performances of 2020.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. That goddamn Collard Greens is cold, too.

[Omar Dorsey]

With him and Collard Greens, I think for. I think it showed a lot shot of J. Cole to be able to stick with two of the greatest lyricists and then showed out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Showed out, man. And you know, Absolute was mad because he's like, you heard about the story, right? He was mad. Cause it was supposed to just be AB and daylight, just going back and forth. And J. Cole came on it, and I was like, you didn't tell me that damn J. Cole was coming on this. Like, I would have really came in with some real. I thought we. Some damn EPMD that's going back and forth.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So. Nah, man. But like, Cole, man. Cole is. Cole is very talented, man. You know, we.

[Omar Dorsey]

We got. We've had criticisms of Cole over here, but it's never.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I got criticisms of him too. Now.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's never been about his ability. It's. I. I didn't like how he participated in this beef thing.

[Deontay Kyle]

He threw. He. He threw. He threw stones and had his hand. But I. I think that I hear Schoolboy was like, this ain't where you want to go, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just. Cause he's about to get ugly.

[Omar Dorsey]

Well. And even when I heard that story, I respected him for back. Back for taking his position. Yeah, that poor Antonio. I was like, I know you could.

[Deontay Kyle]

Have kept that, man. He was rapping his ass off, but you could have kept it my.

[Omar Dorsey]

Come on. That would have. Could have, should have.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I would. I would have beat everybody. We.

[Omar Dorsey]

We just watched him catch a body.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

34, 24. I think we probably about.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right.

[Omar Dorsey]

We do like 10, 15 more. We be good. Yeah, but I think the. The. It's like, bro, we're never denying that J. Cole is an amazing rapper.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right?

[Omar Dorsey]

2014 Forest Hills Drive. One of the best rap albums.

[Deontay Kyle]

Great album. The.

[Omar Dorsey]

The extended play that. The. The anniversary that he just dropped.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yep.

[Omar Dorsey]

Great. I mean, he be in that. When he in that mode.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Can't nobody with him. He.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't. Kendrick Lamar is a psychopath, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's what it is.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't nobody. No. If Kendrick get focused on your ass, just let it go, man. Would have won a rap battle, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

You. No, you. You're in a ring with an apex predator from Compton.

[Deontay Kyle]

Them. Compton are different, man. Ice Cube, MC8, the game. Them. When they got battle rap, they just don't know how to stop, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah. Because Ice Gotti.

[Deontay Kyle]

Them don't know how to stop, man. They're. Yo, what the. What Gitchi did the goddamn Easy. The Block Captain and. And Remy Ma. I was like, come on.

[Omar Dorsey]

Them don't give a.

[Deontay Kyle]

They don't care, man. Cause they like, I'm. I might Walk out the house and die today. Let me get this off my chest.

[Omar Dorsey]

Gang banger central. So it's exactly what words gonna do.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, exactly. I'm like.

[Omar Dorsey]

I talk about this all the time. Like, Kendrick superpower that people underestimate. Like, he a pull. Surprise winner. Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

The ghetto, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

He ghetto as, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

You know this. Like, I know this.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Ghetto don't let go.

[Deontay Kyle]

They don't. They.

[Omar Dorsey]

When they beat you, they beat you more.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

Every time they see you. Remember I whooped your ass last.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

You going to do about.

[Deontay Kyle]

What you going to do about. Exactly nothing. That's what GNX was.

[Omar Dorsey]

Y'all remember when I was whooping on that boy?

[Deontay Kyle]

That's what gnx. I just struggled me a goat. God damn. You still on that? This riding, though. Hey, I like this, man. What, bro?

[Omar Dorsey]

One of the most. First of all, like, we talking about a moment that blew the Internet up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Is when Drake dropped Family Matters. And he was like, I got him.

[Deontay Kyle]

I got him. I got him. Then the hear Dear Adonis.

[Omar Dorsey]

With alchemist play organ. Church organ music.

[Deontay Kyle]

Dear Adonis, let me tell you how up your daddy is. Like, what?

[Omar Dorsey]

Hold on. Dear Donis, you a white baby with blue eyes and blonde hair and you.

[Deontay Kyle]

But you're a black man. But you're a black man.

[Omar Dorsey]

You're a real. Not your dad. You know how crazy that is, bro?

[Deontay Kyle]

That was a psychopath. Is. Yo.

[Omar Dorsey]

Send a mama down. Dear Sandra.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hold on. No, you need to sit down. Let me finish. Your son's a sick man with sick thoughts. I think that should die. Like what? Like what? Told Dennis I blame you for all his addictions. Like what?

[Omar Dorsey]

No, listen. The funniest to say about a. He's a sick man with sick thoughts.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's a sick man with sick thoughts. Like what should die?

[Omar Dorsey]

And then a. From New Jersey.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man. It was, yo.

[Omar Dorsey]

That greatest thing, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

That. Them three weeks of my life, I was like, I can't get this. I don't even want to get it back. I just want.

[Omar Dorsey]

Can never relive that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Can't never relieve it, man. Family, Family. Family Matters is a really good song.

[Omar Dorsey]

Drive, Drive. It was such a.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was good.

[Omar Dorsey]

This one. Drake getting his bag and then Drake spinning the G Unit chain. The whole production was so amazing.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was. There's videos and all that. Like, what the. Bro, Just clean it out.

[Omar Dorsey]

First of all, first of all, no intro, no ad libs, no yo.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nuh.

[Omar Dorsey]

No.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just. Just a bump.

[Omar Dorsey]

Bump right to your child. De.

[Deontay Kyle]

Exactly. Yo. And I woke up the next Morning. When I woke up next morning, cuz, what time did did not like us drop? What time was that out here?

[Omar Dorsey]

It was, it was like 7:00pm 8, 8, 8, 9:00pm so over there, like a real bro, we was on live.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And somebody said we was on live. Talking about Meet the Grams.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And somebody was like, bruh, Kendrick, Kendra just dropped again. We like, yeah, we reviewing it now. They like, no, nigga another on his ass.

[Deontay Kyle]

He back on his ass.

[Omar Dorsey]

I was like, bro, bro, we playing the video. We in this bitch like, bruh, what sides we throwing at?

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause it was like 4:00 on the West Coast. And I was like, oh, shit, this nigga got a mustard beat. And this shit is riding banger. And on that third verse, he's talking about Atlanta. I was like, ah. I said, man, it's the victory lap.

[Omar Dorsey]

Like, one of them slept on verses. We was talking about it last night. Really gave me did some history.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get some history. He gave y'all a lesson.

[Omar Dorsey]

He gave you a lesson.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then tied it right into this personality. And you can't deny it.

[Deontay Kyle]

You can't deny it, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

But that, you know, put the wrong label on me.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna get him dropped, man. Sweet Chin Music and I won't pass the ox. God damn. That's.

[Omar Dorsey]

Boy, I'm telling you that that's a different mind.

[Deontay Kyle]

It is. Yeah. That's a psychopath, man. Man, that psychopath. Hey, man, Kendrick, man, he won this year, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

He's like, he's the artist of the year. He got. He. I mean, he's clearly. I, I, I would say that he.

[Deontay Kyle]

Should be Time magazine man of the year, for sure. He really should be. If you really gonna keep it 100 with it, I would not be surprised if you Time magazine, man. In the end, I'm.

[Omar Dorsey]

I'm putting Schoolboy Q as album of the year. Just as a body.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

I'm never gonna be in denial that people are going to say GNX is the best album of the year. Yeah, it's, it's a very dense album. It's a really great album, though.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, it's very.

[Omar Dorsey]

But Gloria.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, that's your song.

[Omar Dorsey]

Sizzle was singing her. Yeah, I don't have like that TV when I heard that TV off the first time. That must have get on them cords.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, boy crazy, man. The first one, Whack down murals, man. He was so mad. He was so angry, bruh.

[Omar Dorsey]

He talking through his teeth. You can hear.

[Deontay Kyle]

He sound like he had a toothpick in his mouth.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, Mari funeral. The mariachi music on that, bro, that was dark immediately.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was. He like coming to this world, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

No, come over here.

[Deontay Kyle]

Come over here. We east. They in east element on that. On that album. Exactly. It's the Day of the Dead out there.

[Omar Dorsey]

Day of the dead is beating his head. Yesterday somebody marked out my mural with.

[Deontay Kyle]

A toothpick in his mouth. No, he, he, he. Yo, he did his thing.

[Omar Dorsey]

The Carter 3. Hell my rolling chain.

[Deontay Kyle]

Proud irony. I get my hard work. That little whatever, though.

[Omar Dorsey]

Whatever, though.

[Deontay Kyle]

All these questionable.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah. What got there? He rolled on Snoop, bruh.

[Deontay Kyle]

He rolled that.

[Omar Dorsey]

Snoop said it was.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was the edibles.

[Omar Dorsey]

Nephew, you the king. Yeah, that's he.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

I mean, I've never seen somebody run away with the number one spot in the.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ran away. Just took that. Get this back to me. Yo, I had my Mr. Morale moment. But look at this.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yo, you said the big three.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's just big. I'm gonna tell you some real, man. This real talk.

[Omar Dorsey]

He was like, nah, now I'm gonna show y'all why.

[Deontay Kyle]

So I tell you, Kendrick took them five years off between damn. And Mr. Morale, right? And Drake took the. And did what he did with it. Kendrick was always the number one to me. But he took them five years off and he came back with Mr. Morale. And that was a little bit too deep for people. It's a therapy album, right?

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So Drake ran with the shit and it's cool. Yo, man, he's putting out, you know, them mid ass albums. But he was like, come on, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

No, that's a fact.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, let's keep it real.

[Omar Dorsey]

No, we gotta keep it a stack. I tell people all the time.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause Drake had good albums before.

[Omar Dorsey]

He's had good albums. Yeah, but if we talk about classics. Yeah, he don't got that many classics. What he does have is a lot of hits.

[Deontay Kyle]

He has a lot of songs.

[Omar Dorsey]

He has great hits.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

That he puts on albums.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then you go, okay. You hear the hit, you hear the hitting. And you're like, well, what's the rest of this shit?

[Deontay Kyle]

Just the rest of it.

[Omar Dorsey]

What is it?

[Deontay Kyle]

It's throwaway.

[Omar Dorsey]

Go listen to Scorpion. It's like, what is this?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, what is it?

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, that's with Mariah Carey, though. The Mariah Carey sample. What is it you made me feel?

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's like when Drake getting that bag. When he getting that soul bag or that time stamp bag.

[Deontay Kyle]

That time stamp is, man, he's.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's legendary.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's legendary.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then Kendrick616 in LA, off White.

[Deontay Kyle]

Son seeker, Bottom arena, a phantom. I like to buy yachts when I get the fever. Like, what, man? Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey. Cause what he did, he did every. So what he was doing was whatever y'all think Drake can do, I can do that, too. And do it bigger and do it better.

[Omar Dorsey]

Exponentially.

[Deontay Kyle]

Exponentially.

[Omar Dorsey]

Like, there's no competition.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. There's no. Because that's how he feels.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then. Yeah, I'm gonna do a concert, and I'm a rap for an hour straight, and I'm not going to take a sip.

[Deontay Kyle]

He took a sip of fucking water. I was in that, like, in a hoodie, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

We was in LA in the hat state, the whole.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bruh, I can't wait for this stadium concert. My wife got me tickets. Our anniversary. She got me the tickets to the LA show.

[Omar Dorsey]

Oh, we gonna be in the Atlanta.

[Deontay Kyle]

I might fly. When's the Atlanta show? I might fly back down.

[Omar Dorsey]

April 26th.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, 29th.

[Omar Dorsey]

29Th.

[Deontay Kyle]

I might have to fly back.

[Omar Dorsey]

We cash that back. Let me get them.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let me get them.

[Omar Dorsey]

Till we need that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I might need the guy.

[Omar Dorsey]

Grits and eggs in the building. Big ice cock.

[Deontay Kyle]

Come on. I need to take it, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Look, I'm telling you, bro. Yeah. If you do come to Atlanta, I'll hit you.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm. Hit you up, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

Let me know.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, this, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

This is one of them ones.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's doing a. He's doing stadiums, bro. Have you ever seen the Kendrick. I mean. I mean, have you ever been.

[Omar Dorsey]

Personally, like, I watched the Parish thing that he did.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Miss morale. And that's a show. He's playing the piano and like, bruh, he does shows.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yo. Telling you, I run six miles a day.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes, yes.

[Omar Dorsey]

He's a consummate profession.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man. And it. Because hip hop is really hard to do like that, Right? You have to. You got to be Beyonce or have a whole bunch of people and this, that, and the other. But like you said, man, he runs six miles a day. Didn't take a sip of water at the pop out. I was like.

[Omar Dorsey]

And no backing vocals. The fans.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, we were the backing vocals, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

And. And he didn't miss a beat. The only time he missed the beat is when he got to, like, not like us. And that time he was just so turned up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, whatever, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

Like, y'all know this shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, y'all know it.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, but.

[Deontay Kyle]

And these are new songs, too. You know what I'm saying? These are brand new songs.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's another thing we was learning. Like, he just cooked them bitches up. But then two, Even though he having a stadium tour, the debut of the.

[Deontay Kyle]

Stadium tour at the super bowl at the fucking. I'm in New Orleans, too. I'm in New Orleans. I'm at the Super Bowl.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's an ill, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm at the super bowl, bro. Good God.

[Omar Dorsey]

Get us. Get two more tickets and let us know.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Put me in Big ass cup in the building.

[Deontay Kyle]

When last time y'all been in New Orleans? Three years ago.

[Omar Dorsey]

Keep it real, bruh. Yeah, it's been like two years.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, bro. I'm there every Essence fest. You know, we shot Queen Sugar New Orleans, so. Man, that's my second home, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

That's an experience. Well, yeah, we. We've announced it. We'll announce it. Here year. The Grinch and Eggs podcast is going on the road.

[Deontay Kyle]

Where y'all going?

[Omar Dorsey]

We got a book for a live show in Jackson, Mississippi.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah. Blackest city on the blackest city on earth, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, we haven't did the social media announcement yet.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Because I'm in control of the tickets. I'm in control.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nice.

[Omar Dorsey]

They put me in control of everything.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

So it's like. It's. It's all us. They just want us to show up.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's beautiful, bro.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, man, that's beautiful.

[Deontay Kyle]

How's that? Y'all gotta be strong fan base in Jackson. We.

[Omar Dorsey]

We. We got a strong fan base in the Southeast, but in Jackson, specifically.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yes. Because we. We do the music submissions at the end.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Of podcast.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And the young lady, Rachel has been sending us submissions from Jackson specifically because she's from there.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And it was just like artist after artist. It was five artists in a row.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

No Mrs. Oh, and somebody that owned a venue out there was like, bro, you've been spotlighting our city like they look.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

And. And we want to book you. You come to the venue and you in full control. All we want you is there. We'll open up our gift shop. Your merch. Everything is you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

We just want you there. And we know the people gonna be excited. Like, you're gonna be the talk of the town.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

So that'll be February 8th.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nice, man. Beautiful. Yeah. Congratulations on that, y'all. Yeah, thank you.

[Omar Dorsey]

Appreciate you. So.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Omar Dorsey]

Yeah, man. As long as you go ahead and toss us two of them.

[Deontay Kyle]

Two of them things. Why they got down the alley, baby?

[Omar Dorsey]

Them super bowl tickets, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, bro, you ain't got to go to the game just go that. Just be there, man. Yeah, just be there. Because the city, man, like New Orleans is one of them cities that when there's an event, man, it's. It's so. It's just magical, man. Like Essence Fest, Jazz Fest, any type of thing like that, man, the city just goes up, man. It's a fun place to be.

[Omar Dorsey]

It's a great city. And they love a city, too.

[Deontay Kyle]

They. Man, they love that city. You know what I'm saying? You know, I'm from Atlanta, so I'll be talking about them Falcons, but. Yeah, yeah, man, they love. They said it. They Saints ain't this year. Makes me feel very good.

[Omar Dorsey]

Trash Kurt Cobain, man. Oh, my. I appreciate you for coming on, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

I appreciate it. Yeah, for sure, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

You know, definitely open door policy for you. Say no more.

[Deontay Kyle]

Say no more.

[Omar Dorsey]

But congratulations on season two.

[Deontay Kyle]

Thank you, boss. Thank you.

[Omar Dorsey]

And more continued success.

[Deontay Kyle]

Season two bookie on Max, everybody. Thursday, new episode every Thursday.

[Omar Dorsey]

And then if you want to shout out your plugs or social media, anything like that.

[Deontay Kyle]

My social media all the way around is Omar J. Dorsey. Yep, yep, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Thank you for coming through, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

I appreciate it, man. I say I'm a fan, so. Thank you, man.

[Omar Dorsey]

Go watch bookies, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Appreciate.

[Omar Dorsey]

I'm a fan of YouTube, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

My brother. All right.