Episode 46 - Keemy Casanova ft. Akeem Ali

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast Summary
Episode 46: Keemy Casanova ft. Akeem Ali
Released on January 21, 2025
Host: Deante’ Kyle

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1. Introduction and Guest Introduction

Deontay Cow (Host) kicks off Episode 46 by reintroducing the podcast and welcoming listeners back with enthusiasm. He introduces the special guests, Kimmy Casanova and Akeem Ali, setting the stage for an engaging discussion about their journeys in music and personal experiences.

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2. Akeem Ali’s Musical Journey and Influences

Akeem Ali begins the episode with a freestyle rap segment, showcasing his lyrical prowess and setting a creative tone for the discussion. Deontay then delves into Akeem’s background, highlighting his Southern roots and raw, unfiltered style.

Notable Quote:

“I'm from the dirty south with a dirty mouth... we like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee.”
(00:04) - Akeem Ali

Kimmy Casanova shares her journey into music, explaining how it felt more like music finding her rather than her being shaped by Jackson. She emphasizes her unique approach to songwriting, focusing on authenticity and technical skill rather than conforming to regional styles.

Notable Quote:

“Music just kind of grabbed me and was like, hey, come on, let's go this way.”
(03:41) - Kimmy Casanova

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3. Artistic Identity and Branding

The conversation shifts to Kimmy Casanova’s alter ego and how it represents a genuine extension of herself rather than a gimmick. Deontay praises her ability to maintain authenticity while experimenting with her persona, noting how her visuals and production align seamlessly with her music.

Notable Quote:

“It don't feel like a real Alter Ego type vibe. Yeah, but it's still you.”
(04:04) - Deontay Cow

Kimmy discusses the challenges of embracing her feminine side in a traditionally masculine environment, detailing how moving away from home allowed her to explore and accept all aspects of her identity.

Notable Quote:

“We all got two energies. You got a masculine and a feminine...”
(19:12) - Kimmy Casanova

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4. Independent Label Experience

Deontay and Kimmy explore the dynamics of working with an independent label. Kimmy Casanova candidly shares the struggles and rewards of being the flagship artist, highlighting the financial pressures and creative disagreements that come with the territory.

Notable Quote:

“It ain't sweet at all. I ain't gonna lie.”
(34:03) - Kimmy Casanova

They discuss the misconceptions about record labels, emphasizing that they require hard work and investment without guaranteed success. Kimmy reflects on how she has taken control of her music production and sustainability to mitigate some of these challenges.

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5. Songwriting and Production Insights

Kimmy Casanova elaborates on her evolution as a songwriter, inspired by artists like Frank Ocean and Eminem. She details her process of writing hooks and crafting songs that resonate both lyrically and sonically.

Notable Quote:

“What would Saha say? What would Wayne say? What would Eminem say, but how could I say that better than they would?”
(07:11) - Kimmy Casanova

Deontay commends her dedication to high-quality production and visual storytelling, recognizing how these elements contribute to her growing success.

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6. Personal Experiences and Growth

The duo shares personal anecdotes about their growth and the importance of authenticity. Kimmy discusses overcoming societal expectations and embracing her true self, while Deontay reflects on his own journey of self-discovery and the impact of his past experiences.

Notable Quote:

“Once I started learning about a lot and it gets deeper than just, like, the rapping...”
(18:22) - Kimmy Casanova

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7. Top Five Album Intros Discussion

Deontay and Kimmy engage in a lively debate about their favorite album intros, sharing their top picks and the reasons behind their choices. They explore how these intros set the tone for the rest of the albums and influence their own music.

Notable Quotes:

“Family Matters” by Meek Mill - (Memorable storytelling and dynamic performance)
(50:58) - Kimmy Casanova

“My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy” by Kanye West - (Masterpiece in production and visual storytelling)
(57:13) - Kimmy Casanova

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8. Callers’ Advice Segment

The episode features heartfelt advice to listeners dealing with personal relationship struggles:

Caller 1: Navigating Romantic Feelings

A listener from Denver seeks advice on whether to express romantic feelings to a long-distance friend to avoid future regrets.

Deontay’s Advice:

“Go get your man. What are you doing? Leave Denver.”
(71:48) - Deontay Cow

Caller 2: Rebuilding a Toxic Relationship A caller from Utah shares a tumultuous relationship history and asks for guidance on whether to rekindle a relationship with past toxic dynamics.

Kimmy’s Advice:

“Let your son grow up so he can. She can have somebody if you leave again.”
(84:27) - *Kimmy Casanova

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9. Closing Remarks and Future Plans

The episode concludes with Deontay and Kimmy promoting upcoming projects and performances. Kimmy Casanova announces her "Going Again Tour" scheduled for June, encouraging listeners to follow her on social media for updates.

Notable Quote:

“Come see me on a going again tour, man. This summer.”
(93:06) - Kimmy Casanova

The hosts wrap up by teasing future episodes and expressing gratitude to their audience, maintaining an open and engaging connection with their listeners.

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Key Takeaways:

• Authenticity in Music: Embracing one's true self and authentic storytelling is crucial for meaningful connections with the audience.
• Challenges of Independent Labels: Navigating financial pressures and creative differences requires resilience and strategic planning.
• Personal Growth: Overcoming societal expectations and personal struggles contributes to artistic and personal development.
• Importance of Community Support: Providing advice and support to listeners reinforces the podcast's role as a safe and insightful space.

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For More Information:

• Follow Kimmy Casanova:

  • Instagram: @AkeemAli
  • Twitter: @Akeem___Ali
  • TikTok: @AkeemAli

• Host Contact:

  • Website: Deontayantayky.com
  • Patreon: Deontay Kyle's Patreon

Stay tuned for more insightful discussions on the next episodes of the Grits and Eggs Podcast!

Transcript

[Akeem Ali]

Yeah woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty south with a dirty mouth my knee orbit miss things things on me like a nigga nor bit had to refuse them cause my bitch no rest fusion she gorgeous as I dab my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead Tell them we gonna get this money to my pockets Mor remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't gotta like a regardless baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me we like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee Flick your cigarette and let a.

[Deontay Cow]

Vent yeah, we back oh we back. Grits and eggs podcast episode 46. I'm your host, Deontay Cow. But who's behind the camera? Big ice cup cat. Big ice cup. Look man, been gone for a little minute. We had to handle some things. Had to slide down to Jackson, go pick somebody up. Huh? You didn't seen them before? Seen them on your Instagram. Seen them on your Tick Tock. The hardest latest single.

[Kimmy Casanova]

What that thing called Going Again.

[Deontay Cow]

We're going again. We in here with Kimmy Casanova. Akeem Ali, man, what's cracking with you? What's going on with you, man?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Can't call it.

[Deontay Cow]

As always. Deontayantayky.com we don't know what they doing with the Tick Tock so we just gonna stick one can't say it. Yeah. We can't say yeah, yeah. They they trying to prop trump up so just follow me on Instagram. Deontay Kyle, the Patreon gooking right now should be up within the rest of the week. If not, we're gonna pivot and we'll let y'all know the details that. Deontay Kyle.com for the merchant. We back my mans. How you feeling?

[Kimmy Casanova]

I'm feeling like Akeem Ali. Follow me or swallow me. The choice is yours. Click the link in my bio.

[Deontay Cow]

Talk to these niggas.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah, Akeem Ali dot com. You click that link and let me know what you think.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, man, we're gonna play the. We play going again in a minute. But man, we was down there in Jackson yesterday for sure. Johnny T's Johnny Tees. Good Johnny Tees, huh? Nigga had had a Rick James in that bitch. They don't tell you what's in it. You just drank that bitch. Start feeling violent. Start looking at Rachel like this.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Knock some shit over.

[Deontay Cow]

What Unity. But yeah, that. That shit was Jamming. But then we. We slid back Jackson State, and we was definitely at the Vibe studios, for sure. February 8th, live podcast.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

The first ever. First ever show. Yeah, man. Your city's showing us love, though, bruh.

[Kimmy Casanova]

For sure.

[Deontay Cow]

So it felt right to have you in here, bro. We ain't know you was down the street. You right down the street, though, so it should all just work out now. I first got hip to you with 85.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Okay.

[Deontay Cow]

Of course, using that, I was like.

[Kimmy Casanova]

This hill moving and grooving.

[Deontay Cow]

I'm talking about really doing the thing, for sure. And I recognize the bars, you know what I'm saying? Like, of course, naturally. But I mean, your kind of funky, bro. Like, yeah, you got like a real funky vibe. I get the king, because another shit now.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

But then it's like, oh, of course. Niggas gotta travel. Kind of. Kind of get to a metropolis when you from a smaller city. But how did this being from Jackson shape you as an artist and even make you just want to pursue music in general?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah, man, Music just kind of found me.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I don't think it was like, Jackson that shaped it. It was something else. Because I don't think I ever made music for people in Jackson per se. Or like, the people who make music where I'm from. Or a lot of my partner, them, they don't make music the same way I make music.

[Deontay Cow]

Right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Or they don't think about it the same way I do. It just looks different in my head and it feels different. So it was just music just kind of grabbed me and was like, hey, come on, let's go this way.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

And I'm like, all right, shit.

[Deontay Cow]

It's very evident in how you approach it, though, because I'm gonna be honest, like, you know, everybody try to do things to separate themselves and make it seem different. Be having gimmicks and all this type shit. But when I'm seeing your. It don't feel. It feel like a real Alter Ego type vibe. Yeah, but it's still you because, you know when you doing the freestyles in the car, which you could do with the best of them, you could bar with the best of them. But then when you get into your Kimmy Casanova bag, it's like, no, that's still him, though. Like, yeah, that's a part of this thing. And it's not. It don't veer off so far where it's like, what the he doing?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Right?

[Deontay Cow]

It just makes sense because the real player and you got the whole man. That should Be fine, man. Like, to have your own kind of bag where it's, like, separated. If I hear that, I know it's you. You know what I'm saying? And almost to the point where if I was to see somebody else do it, I know they getting it from you.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Right?

[Deontay Cow]

Right. So you have, like, where did the. How did you get from? Like, did it start out all lyrical? Was it just like you going lyrical first when you started doing it and then you transition into Kimi Casanova? Or is. Has that kind of Persona always been. Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Lyrics was always at the forefront of everything.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I was telling somebody one day, at base level, I always wanted people to know that I was just a rapping ass nigga.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I ain't never wanted to be, like, second to nobody. I ain't never want nobody to, like, second guess whether I could or if it was just like, oh, he all right. Nah. At base level, before anything, if I just venture off into any lane, whatever he do, we know this nigga is gonna rap no matter what. It don't matter what he give us, we still gonna be satisfied. Cause he gonna come with just base level X, Y, and Z, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Cow]

I think that that's, like, kind of lost, too, is like, you could have a vibe, you could be grooving and shit like that. And I think I judge artists off of this. Like, is the beat doing the work or are you working the beat? You know what I'm saying? Cause a lot of times you get artists where it's like, take away the beat, what they talking about, or do it even make sense? Are they just, like, riding the beat? Or could I take the beat out and really, like, get into these lyrics and these metaphors and these bars and like, that's also always when I'm gravitating towards, like, okay. Because that's base level. Like, you're saying, like, if you. If you're gonna get in this thing and you can't bar up, right? Then we get into a thing where what's gonna happen when you get on the feature with that nigga that's really rapping, you're gonna be in trouble.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

You ain't gonna have that problem.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Sometimes the beats ain't hitting. It's just a song or what they saying. You know what I'm saying? Or they mesh so good with the beat that they got that it makes a good song.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Sometimes it's just the beat that makes it. Sometimes motherfucker just rapping so good that's all you want to hear. And you don't care about the beat, but definitely get it.

[Deontay Cow]

So then how do you get from to a place where you. Okay, you got the lyrics down pat. Like, we know you a rapping.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

How does that. How do you transition that into, like, songwriting and just in your. Not only songwriting, but just in the creation of a song, like, to make a song that's, like, appealing to more than just niggas, that's here for the bars and shit like that.

[Kimmy Casanova]

It took a long time. I remember. What's this, 2025. So in 2012, I couldn't write songs, right? I couldn't write full songs. I couldn't even write a song and stay on the same subject. Not a song, a freestyle. So a lot of my inspiration comes from Wayne. And so when I learned how to be, like, let me see the top two people who taught me how to be, like, a bar master. Wayne was probably number one before anybody. I literally wanted to, like, be Wayne at some point. Like, I almost went and got the lip piercing and shit, and I'm like. I was like, yeah, this is if rap has a pinnacle. And it's like, a person to be like. Wayne was who I wanted to be. But with that, all I knew how to do was just write, write, write, write. Punchline, punchline, punchline, or try to get back around to a punchline. And I was noticing. I was like, bro, you don't got no hooks. You don't got no subject matter. You don't know how to stay on topic for more than you know what I'm saying, blah, blah, blah. And I'm looking at the books that I got in my notes, and I'm like, damn, all I'm doing is just writing freestyles. And that was cool, but I had to. I sat down one day and literally was like, write about this. Stay on topic. Don't stop till you finish it, and, like, stay on the same subject. And I did that for the first time. And I remember when I did it, that's when the iPhones had the yellow notepad.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I remember writing in there. The old motherfucker iPhone 8.

[Deontay Cow]

For real?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. Did that. And I was like, okay, cool. I want to start writing hooks. Because it was two people who impressed me really, really good. And all these people I'm mentioning of, like, top 10 for me. So Wayne Saha. I used to listen to crit and Cole, and I noticed Cole for a long time. Even on mixtapes, he didn't have people doing, like, a lot of his hooks and crit on mixtapes didn't have people doing a lot of his hooks. And I was like, bro, for three, four mixtapes or for five albums or projects. Six albums of projects, bro. They doing all of the hooks. I'm like, how is this even possible? And they would just hook, hook, hook, hook, hook. Even if it didn't sound like the best. I was like, the fact that they still come up with hooks, that's where I started wanting to learn how to write hooks and start studying, like, crit and Cole to, like, just not even make great or perfect the hooks. Just do it.

[Deontay Cow]

I just wanted to get to the structure of it.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yes. I just wanted to get to a point where I could do that. Once I started doing that, I felt like I was okay. Just practice it more. Practice it more. When I got to a point where I could write hooks, I'm like, cool. I'm good. I would say last year. Last year, I got into really. I got really deep into songwriting and carefully choosing not just, like, my freestyles and stuff that I'm doing and letting go, like, a song. So, like, Going Again was, like, carefully thought out. Like, I had a whole song put together. And I remember being in the studio, and I was. I was like, all right, take all of these parts off. Take that off. And I'm the type of person, like, if I'm on a song, I don't want to let the beat have a moment. I'm over all of it. You know what I'm saying? I'm rapping on this part, doing something on this part. And I was like, take that off and just let this part be by itself. Let it breathe. We had something in it. And I was like, yeah, I don't think I want to put backgrounds on this section. I think I want all this to be just butt naked over here. Just nothing behind it. Let it breathe, and let me choose the words that I'm saying carefully. If it don't sound like something that. And when I make stuff, I think about the standard that I. I guess where I heard it from. So I was listening to Frank Ocean, and I was like, man, Frank Ocean writes really well. And I'm like, this has to be almost like pinnacle songwriting. So when I wrote Going Again, my mindset was like, what would Frank do right? You know what I'm saying? And that's kind of like what I revert to when I'm writing lyrics or bars. I'm like, what would Saha say? What would Wayne say? What would Eminem Say, but how could I say that better than they would?

[Deontay Cow]

Right? Right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You know what I'm saying? And so.

[Deontay Cow]

So you pulling like inspiration from the people you look up to. But it sound like more to me what you getting. Songwriting. Yeah, but you getting more into like the production of the song.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. So I'm gonna get to that. Before that, maybe it was like 2022, I met a producer. I did a feature with this guy named Daniel Payne from Alabama, and he wanted to do the video. And so I come, I go to the video shoot and I meet a producer there. He introduced me to him and the dude got on like a trench coat, Burberry shoes, scarf tied around his head, lot of chains on rings, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like. He was like, yeah, this is the producer, this guy who produced the song. And I was like, this nigga don't look like he produced nothing that I want. I'm like, you meet a lot of people, sometimes they be like this such and such. He be like, I'm courteous, so I shake your hand, but like, ain't nothing I could do for you. Ain't nothing you can do for me, right? And that was like, I ain't gonna lie, like, to this day. That's why I don't even tell people what they can and can't. Because ever since I met that dude, bro, like, I'd have made like the best music or some of the best music of my life, but if I had judged it off, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

How he looked. And I, at first I did, and I told him that we talk about this all the time, but I still hit him up or we still like kind of like got in contact. I forgot how it went and went over to the crib and started cooking. And man, when I tell you this, this dude is a wicked bro. Yeah, this B flat, man. And he didn't. We didn't worked on several projects. I don't even let people mix or touch my music no more.

[Deontay Cow]

Like, it's all him.

[Kimmy Casanova]

The instrumentation, the beats, like how he's able to like sometimes help coach me through it, like, you know what I'm saying? Or just everything. And the more I watched him, I guess, be in his element with creating, it helped me get into a zone. Cuz I didn't start doing certain stuff until I got around him and being just like comfortable. I noticing, like, you ever see when Kanye is listening to his music, how he just sits and moves or like believes it before anybody else does. And he even moves weird sometimes. And you just like, we accept it now because it's Kanye. That's the type of stuff he did in the studio. And I'm looking at him, and I'm like, he is really feeling that shit.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

And I'm like, I just be chilling. But now I catch myself, like, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Cow]

Like, it's because it's like they hear something that we ain't hearing yet.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

But it's like. It's the progression. It's the progression. Like, they know where it's going. And it's like. Yeah. I think that. That I've been around, like, certain situations in studios where it's like, somebody in there. It's like, they do. They only look like. Like they look kind of out of place, or at least what you got in your mind of, like, what a producer or a rapper look like or whatever. And then this might be the coldest motherfucker on earth.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. And I learned, like, niggas do not be producing. Niggas be just making beats.

[Deontay Cow]

Right, right, right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Niggas that go and get a loop and just throw some drums on it sometimes. Nah, I didn't watch. And we have literally together sat and cooked from not like, pure nothingness and just start pulling out the sky and just, like, piecing it together. And then when you hear it, it's like, Ms. Standard for some of that shit was like, Thriller, Rick James, Bruno Mars, like, the Gap Band. Who the am I thinking about? Cool in the gang. Like, just all big sounds. Prince.

[Deontay Cow]

Right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

And if it's not that, we just kind of like. I don't know. I just kind of be like, yeah, you know?

[Deontay Cow]

But the correlation to, like, if you hear your music plus and those being, like, the. The roots of it all, it make a lot of sense, too, because it's like, it sound big, and it sound like live instrumentation.

[Kimmy Casanova]

The thing is, the stuff that people are hearing is not even like, so what's the day? December 19th. The stuff that people have heard before now ain't even the stuff right. Niggas is just like, oh, he's so good. He raps like. I'm like, this ain't even it. Yeah, yeah, the rapping is cool. And like, I forever probably like rap and shit like that, but the stuff that sounds big and, like, the grand instrumentation, the progressions, the chords that you hear in it, like, the range from me, it's like, oh, hey, dog, I'm just a wicked. I ain't gonna lie. I Ain't trying to overshoot it, but I grew into that. I ain't, like, start out that way. I ain't. You know what I'm saying? I practice it every day. Like, I literally just wrote a verse on the way over here.

[Deontay Cow]

Right. But you got a pure start into it. Like, you start with the lyricism. So a lot of times we start from, like, I used to rap and shit, too. That's how I got kind of got like, transitioned into this. I started realizing, like, with my opinions more than they do the music now with the music, but it ain't. It ain't clicking. And it's like at some point I was like, okay, I'm gonna just pivot. But in the same sense of what you saying, it's like all I want to do is hear the beat and go. You know what I'm saying? So when you start like that now, you getting into, like a. It seemed like a more of a maturing stage. I'm like, okay, I got this over here. Cause when I listen to your music and then I see the videos and the visuals, I can almost see the set, like, what the performance should look like. You know what I mean? Cause you giving off the entire vibe off the rip. It'd be interesting to see how it translate to a stage. But you already doing the performance and the videos, which is, like, top tier. I wanted to give you a props on that too, because.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Appreciate it.

[Deontay Cow]

A lot of people aren't. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of effort going into music videos just because it seemed like, you know, they're gonna be here today, gone tomorrow. Watch them once, and then they keep moving. But the you're doing is very detailed and intricate to, like, it sound. It sound right with the music.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

And it look right with the Persona. You know what I'm saying?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Appreciate that.

[Deontay Cow]

So, yeah, I just want to give your flowers on that because, like, that shit. That shit really do, like, stick out. Like, nah, this shit different than what everybody else, especially, like, shouting. You be like, you be on some real shit.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Just get in there.

[Deontay Cow]

That should be super duper player. But it's like nobody else doing that, so you got your own lane. And then to hear what you're doing with the production and then how you done found somebody that, like, you got chemistry, you know what I'm saying? So it's easy to build. And now you don't got to worry about, like, just jacking for beats or finding the right beat. You got somebody to help you cook it. Up. Which help you as an artist, like, express yourself through your songwriting?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. Nah, for sure. That's hell yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

I. How do. How do we transition from Akeem Ali just being a rapping ass nigga and a Kimi Casanova who's, like, a lyrical funk artist?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Finding myself? Yeah, that's all it was. And I was at odds with it for a good little while, just kind of fighting it, because basically, like, where I'm from, a lot of stuff that you see Kimi Casanova do, if you don't know how to be yourself or if you don't know who you are, sometimes, like, where I'm from, niggas think that shit is gay. That's just straight up. The way I was raised, like, anything that looks remotely feminine is gay. But the older I get and, like, moving away from home helped me see, like, the world is bigger than Jackson. And so when I was at home, I was worried about what my peers would think. I was worried about what people would say or, like, X, Y, and Z, you know what I'm saying? Even the females sometimes. It's like, I saw a comment today. This girl reposted me, and in one video, I was filing my nails. She said, I fuck with the video, but why you gotta be filing your nails and promoting feminism? I'm like, baby, what do you want me to tell you?

[Deontay Cow]

I'm not gonna hold you. I never looked at it any other way besides some pimp shit.

[Kimmy Casanova]

But it's people who. And that's what I used to always worry about, like, how I would look to people. And so I'm like, damn, if I just kept worrying about y'all, I wouldn't be able to be the best me that I could be.

[Deontay Cow]

That's a fact, though.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Like, I wouldn't be able to. Like, I couldn't pay the bills. I couldn't do X, Y, and Z. I'd be down bad worrying about what everybody else was thinking. And I'm just like. Once I started learning about a lot and it gets deeper than just, like, the rapping. I'm like, bro, we all got two energies. You got a masculine and a feminine right. I'm like, we get so macho that we don't know how to show our feminine energies or don't know how to just be comfortable in who we are fully. And I was just like, man, fuck it, bro. Just be who the fuck you want to be or whoever you feel like whenever you wake up. Some days, I feel like I'm cute. I do. I feel like that Every day. I ain't gonna lie. But some days I just feel like I'm cuter than everybody else.

[Deontay Cow]

Right, right, right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Some days I'm just like, shit, let me, you know, put my leg over my other winning. File my nails. Some days I'm just. I'm chilling and I'm just like, what's up? What's happening?

[Deontay Cow]

Like, but it's you, though. And that's.

[Kimmy Casanova]

It's all me. You feel me? And I'm just like, you know, I don't know. Mansmith's nigga got him created. I can't. I can't be mad about that. I don't know.

[Deontay Cow]

Then also, too, like, you know, you small town, you small mine, small ceiling. The ceiling get real low, and it's only so much you can do. Like, I remember I don't put none of my on Facebook. I don't even got contacts with. Like, if. If we not friends, I don't even see or hear from the people we went to high school with. Because it's like I was going through that same thing. Like, I'm putting big opinions out there, bro. And you're getting to places like, damn, like, how niggas gonna think about, like, you know, where we from? Like, thinking about this, like. Or just speaking about, you know, even. Even, like, praising black women or. And like, embracing your own femininity and shit like that. Just to grow as a man. You know what I'm saying? Damn. And it's like, you know what, man? Fuck it. When you start doing it. That's why, like, I think I started on TikTok. Cause it's like, nobody know me here. So I could just come over here, be myself, not worry about, like, even thinking about what niggas from the street think or what my. What my partners think or, like, my auntie or anything. I'm just go over here and be my full self. And then it's like, look, a year later, boom. You bloom into, like, something that. And then you get more confident in the shit.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

And then it's like, can't nobody stop this shit.

[Kimmy Casanova]

And what's crazy is when everybody else be like, oh, yeah, Deontay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then people be like, oh, yeah, he want us. He'd be like, y'all weren't fucking with me like this. Y'all don't really fuck with me. I get it.

[Deontay Cow]

But, nah, be cool.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Be cool.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Like, don't, Don't. Don't start doing it now. And I ain't mad that you just now getting on that you want to kind of like, hop on now, but, like, you know, if you didn't fuck with me, just. It's okay. Yeah, but don't act like we've been like this here the whole time. Like, hey, I just got on him. I had trouble adjusting, and now he's one of those people that I don't mind listening to. But don't just act like, yeah, man. You remember when we. No, I don't.

[Deontay Cow]

I don't remember nothing. Not at all, actually. What's your name? For real? You know what I'm saying?

[Kimmy Casanova]

For real, like. Cause I don't remember.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, I think that's a struggle. You know, we talk about, like, black issues and shit like that a lot here. Or just, like, communal issues more than anything. And I. We was talking about how we, like, kind of, like, ostracize gifted people.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

People that seem different either for their talent or for their intelligence or for how they choose to dress.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

A lot of these things come with, like, these. These rules and these structures that, like, we all abide by. And it's like, sometimes the only time you really being yourself is when you in the house. You in the house, you with your family, you expressing yourself. You. You more comfortable in your own interest and things like that. We was just talking about it yesterday. Like, I really like rock music and skateboarding and, like, that growing up, but when I go outside and, like, that's some white boy, it was like, all right, well, I'm gonna keep that in the crib.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna keep that in the crib. When I come outside, white, teed up.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I'm telling shame, though. Like, I'm gonna be honest with you. We have been so programmed, and I was telling somebody yesterday, we've been so programmed, the people who actually figure it out is a blessing for us. Everybody else's program.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Like, think about how free and liberated you feel sometimes being like, damn, I'm glad I ain't gotta fake the funk no more.

[Deontay Cow]

Like, man, I'm a mama, man.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I'm just the same nigga everywhere I go. And now people walk up to me and be like, bro, look, you. Boom, boom, boom. And I'm like, appreciate that. I used to be so uncomfortable in trying to fit in with everybody, and I was like, I stopped chasing motion and became motion. Now niggas chase me or women chase me. Like, people are chasing what I got going on. I'm like, that's.

[Deontay Cow]

It's actually one of the things that When I was on this. When I was on this rap, I have, like, an idea like, what a rapper is, but I'm. But I don't know who I am fully as a person yet either. So then. And I'm not confident or comfortable fully in who I am as a man. So networking was always weird because it's like, how do I navigate these situations?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Like, stop trying to be a rapper.

[Deontay Cow]

And then now that I'm, like, more so, like, in a place where I'm so comfortable and I'm like, I ain't like. Like you said, I'm the motion now.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

I just go in and be myself. Like, it's so easy. I don't gotta, like, think about what another nigga thinking or worry about my perception is I'm just gonna help be myself. And then we getting up out of there.

[Kimmy Casanova]

That's it.

[Deontay Cow]

And you meet so many more genuine people like that. And it's like. Like you said, like, we breaking outta ceilings. Like, oh, damn, that was a ceiling. Like, that shit. That shit was made of sheetrock that was easy to break.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Stop trying to be a rapper and be yourself. Like the nigga that raps. I'm not a rapper. That's a nigga. I'm just a nigga that raps. Yo, I'm myself. Just so happens that I'm one of the best niggas to ever do the rapping shit. You feel me? Yeah, but, yeah. And I remember, like, I always had this type of energy. I remember one time, it was like 2015, this for anybody knew who I was before I had even put out, like, my first project or anything. I was still literally learning how to rap. Still literally. Like, I remember being in a club one time. I was at M Bar with my potting them, and I seen this girl and I'm like, this bitch fine. And I was just like. And then she looked at me and that bitch was like. And I left. I was like, who do I think I am? And I was like, I ain't gonna lie. She didn't come. And I felt lame as hell. And I was like, who do I think I am? But now I'm still the same nigga. Nah.

[Deontay Cow]

Kimmy Casanova hopped out.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You real? Nah, for real. But I was like. I didn't notice that that was a part of like. And I was just like, come here. But I ain't saying. I was just like, yo, first of all, the finger. And I was thinking she was gonna actually, like, just finger motion. Yeah. But, like, now I don't pull Shit like that now because I'm more so like cool with it. But that was one of them moments where I was like, what?

[Deontay Cow]

You needed that though? Like, I gotta like, I gotta see if it worked, you know what I'm saying?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Oh yeah, I'm gonna test it out. But yeah, I was like. And she didn't come. And I was just like.

[Deontay Cow]

That.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Goddamn me. Like it. But now I'm not gonna lie. Like now I could probably pull some like that. I'd just be like, I ain't gonna lie worth you come here. Come here.

[Deontay Cow]

It's on brand like a. Yeah, like.

[Kimmy Casanova]

It worked now, but at that moment it was like you say pieces of that popping out, but I didn't know who that nigga was telling. Come here. And I was like, did I just do that? I know that shit don't work out here. I don't know why I did that.

[Deontay Cow]

That shit like JD's revenge. You seen that movie before? You. It's bruh, it's a old movie.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Oh, okay. Bruh, with the razor.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, yeah, okay, gotcha. Yeah, I fucked your old girl.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

But nah, I think, I think one of the things that we like really trying to champion over here is like getting niggas young. 18, 19, when that really deeply programmed in. Because it's like we outliers for real, you know what I'm saying? For the mindset that we have, it's an outlier mindset. Like you were saying before, like a lot of niggas, this program never see, never see nothing outside of their city limits. And it's like, so we just. With the program, you got to get down with the program most to the point where like when you go back to where you from, stick out like a sore thumb type shit. Yeah, but I think one of our things is like, if we can get niggas off the bubble like early, like, bruh, you don't even know if you ain't even in the point of self discovery. You don't even know. Like you moving around mindless as fuck, you know what I'm saying? And then I got a 13 year old son, so it's like I'm already like telling him about this early. But people respect you more, people gravitate to you more when it's like you prioritizing self and not just like, oh, I'm gonna go with the crowd or I'm always available, you know what I'm saying? You call, I'm there. It's like sometimes you got to have your own Priorities and what you want to do in life. And then when see, like, no, I can't do that. I got some other to do, some of my to do.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

It's like motherfuckers like, oh, okay. Respect their time.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

They respect their own present. They got boundaries and like that. If I'd have had a to tell me that at 19, we talking about countless, countless times I don't went to jail, probably wouldn't win. Countless mistakes that made. But it's like all that shit made me who I am right now.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I'm gonna say you deserved all of that, though, you know what I'm saying? Always about the now.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Think about how you just like. And I say there's no good or no bad. There's just things that work towards you being like what you want.

[Deontay Cow]

Right, right, right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You know what I'm saying? And so it's like you always right in between where you want to be and need to be.

[Deontay Cow]

Right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You know what I'm saying? I want to be way up there. I need to be back here, but I'm in between and it's keeping me like, who I need to be for myself, you know what I'm saying? And so, like, yeah, that shit, it affords you amount of wisdom that no amount of money could pay for. And I tell people that all the time. That shit that I been through, it's like, damn, I wish I would have. Damn, I could have. Damn, I should have. But I'm like, bruh, the nigga I am right now. I am happy.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

When I look in the mirror, I don't like having regrets and shit. I don't like, think about, oh, I should have or what if I. I'm like, shit, I'm doing it.

[Deontay Cow]

It is what it is, bro.

[Kimmy Casanova]

And it ain't no age limit or like, no. You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, I think I'm grateful to. No, I don't think I know. I'm extremely grateful for sure. For everything I went through and to. To land where I met and this like. I mean, you can't recreate it and you can't redo. So it's like once I got into a place of acceptance, and it's like, what was I supposed to learn from this? You know what I'm saying? And then through that learning process, it's like, okay, I'm gonna be vulnerable enough to like, speak on my experiences and put that out there. And then I get a lot of young reaching out and like, how they relate to the shit. But it's like, damn, I. I ain't even know I was moving crazy like this. But you talking. It's like, all right, bet. So you find a point of relatability. Maybe it's just like. Maybe it's. You're gonna have different problems, right? I always tell my son, you're gonna have different problems. I don't want your. I don't want you to have jail problems. You know what I'm saying? Like, I want you to have poverty problems and shit like that. Like.

[Kimmy Casanova]

But you wouldn't have known that if you hadn't had it.

[Deontay Cow]

Exactly. So. So I.

[Kimmy Casanova]

At least you would have been green to it.

[Deontay Cow]

I would have been green to it, too. So it's like, okay, I'm gonna use the things I've been through in the experiences. It's like, you gonna have different problems. Life is full of them. But it's like, if you don't have these set of problems. I know. I did my job. You know what I'm saying?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

I think we was. I was looking up the winners united. I know that it's Lou Y. Lou Will. Lou Will. Lou Will. Lil Young, I'm thinking about you. I know it's Lou Will. But it's not a major, right? No, it's an independent. Right. But. So what are some of the pros and cons of being assigned to, like, a independent label?

[Kimmy Casanova]

For me, it's all pros.

[Deontay Cow]

All pros.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. And at first, I used to be like. It's been a lot of times I've been like, man, this.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

And I think everybody gonna do that when they get in their first deal or have a partner. We got a joint venture, so a partnership.

[Deontay Cow]

Okay.

[Kimmy Casanova]

But, yeah, I've been like this a lot of times. You know what I'm saying? And me and him have been on the phone, like, back and forth. Man, this. Yeah. It. You know, like, we've not been speaking sometimes or just like, you know. But that's my dog at the end of the day, because he. We. I guess we understand it together on a certain level.

[Deontay Cow]

And you like the flagship artist. Like, you. The first one. Okay. Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. And so there's a lot of stuff being tested on me or, like, you know, it's a lot of stuff that they doing that I'm sometimes not agreeing with. Some stuff It's a lot of that I did that they ain't agree with. I ain't gonna lie. Probably ready to, like, drop. You literally, like, pull up and like, sock a out type now. I've been like, we been on the phone just like, heated about, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm feeling like ain't moving fast as I want them to move. But at first when I got in it, I didn't have, like a vision, right? I didn't know how to, like, direct and put in motion. I had the music, and that was all I was passionate about, was the music. Once I got a vision, it was like, now I know where I'm trying to go or how I need to do it or execute. And I started, I was fucking a lot of stuff up. And to them, it's like, you can't keep doing it like this or like that a lot. You can't just go off and boom, boom, boom. But I didn't know that that was helping me, like, put shit in motion, you know what I'm saying? And they didn't realize it needed, you know what I'm saying? Because if you just throwing a record label, you're not a record label, nigga. You're just somebody. Like, you're not a rapper. When you first start rapping, you just like a nigga who trying to figure out how to rap.

[Deontay Cow]

Right, right, right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You feel me? And so that was some of the problem too. It's like we got industry friends or we got people who know what they doing in this spot, that spot. But I'm like, to me, once a nigga say you sign, I'm thinking like, you're supposed to be rich. And that's what everybody would think, you know what I'm saying? Like, where the money at? And once you realize that shit ain't all peaches and cream and like, you really gotta. That's when you really gotta start working the hardest. I was like, yeah, there's some bullshit, but I signed up for it, so I'm gonna stick it out, you know what I'm saying? And me and him talk all the time about some of this shit. We didn't been that odds about it, but we still meet in the middle about just getting the job done. For the most part. It is not what people think it is on neither end. Cause I ain't gonna say it's been, like, unfair, but I ain't gonna say it's been, like, all in my favor neither. I don't feel like I done had nobody trying to, like, pull the wool on me or fuck me over or, you know what I'm saying? Do just nothing too egregious or nothing like that. But I also don't feel like, niggas that moved on a time that I didn't want them to move on. So I just start operating off my own, you know what I'm saying? And then they be like, hey, you stop doing that, man. I like, this ain't that type of party. And I'm like, it, you know. Yeah, but we.

[Deontay Cow]

There's a lot of push and pull for like, the creative and business.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. And because I think I know everything. I think I know everything when it comes to this. Because I had to work so hard for it. They ain't had to be in my shoes, like, when I'm struggling to try to get at least just to that point. Or they ain't had to feel hot and had to feel someday some days or some nights. Like, even with being quote, unquote, sign like, nigga, I didn't not had money or been broke. Like, I'm pulling up to the club, be like, yo, you Akeem Ali and I can't even pay to get in. Like, I'm broke as fuck. Like, niggas know me. Like, yeah, you was on the 85.

[Akeem Ali]

South, it's 60 to get in.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I'm like, yeah, I'm gone. Yeah, this ain't that type of party. And so, like, you know, and so it's not to their fault because it's not a nigga job that take care of me. It's my job to go out and hustle and get my own bread and like, you know, sustain for myself. And so when I started learning how to, like, really put the pieces together, and it came from, like, fucking stuff up. I put them pieces together and learned how to keep myself afloat. And it's like, well, shit, some of the shit that I had or I was going to them like, hey, let's. We need a budget for a video. We need da da da da. I'm like, I don't need it as much now, or I don't need X, Y and Z. I know how to sustain it now. I done got it. I didn't figure certain shit out. So, yeah, you think a label gonna save you, but it's really meant for you to, like, keep doing what you're doing and do it better so they can make more money to give you more money.

[Deontay Cow]

Right, right, right, right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

It ain't like, hey, you know, just be here and we'll just keep throwing money at you. No, that's not how that shit.

[Deontay Cow]

Well. Cause they gotta recoup and things like that.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Really.

[Deontay Cow]

And also too, like, it's really a crash Course. And like, while they learning if you got the money to start a record label, you don't necessarily understand how to run a record label, how to do record businesses.

[Kimmy Casanova]

We still in the red. Niggas don't understand that. You be in the red for a long time.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah. Like, because it's all investment.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. Niggas look at me. Or people will say like, oh, you keep my lease, you have my nigga. No, I'm in the red. All that money that has been spent to get me to this point was nothing but a big ass student loan. Yeah, this was my college. I ain't go to college, I ain't go to school. Like, niggas spent X amount of thousands of dollars to make this shit what it is now. And it still ain't where I want it to be or where they want it to be for them to start making money back from it or to get like breaking even at base level. You feel what I'm saying? And so I'm just like, you know, it is what it is. But fuck it, I'm here. I'm gonna kick my little raps and be handsome and chill until it get where it need to get, Goddammit. But it ain't sweet at all. I ain't gonna lie.

[Deontay Cow]

Do you feel a level of added pressure being the artist that's supposed to like break the record label?

[Kimmy Casanova]

No.

[Deontay Cow]

No. Okay.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I don't. I just be like, I used to. I used to feel pressure about all type of. But I'm like, like, I am pressured. What am I?

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, exactly.

[Kimmy Casanova]

It's gonna happen. If it don't. We're gonna get that money back. Yeah, we're gonna mask up and get out this. We gonna get. We gonna get the money back. Don't worry. Everybody be cool.

[Deontay Cow]

What are some of the things I would say? Hold on, we back. So being outside of the major. Did, have you ever operated in the major label system at all?

[Kimmy Casanova]

No.

[Deontay Cow]

No. So you have to learn. You. So basically everything is like trial and error for you so far.

[Kimmy Casanova]

All the time. All the time. It's like, it worked this day. Don't work that day. Restructure it so it can work. Like, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Cow]

But I remember before you saying you didn't have like a vision and it's very evident now that you do.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

What do you feel like? Because you got the followers, like, and a lot of times people think that's what it is and we know that's not what it is. It's like you need that is it a record, you think it's like, one record that'll just boom.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You always one record away. A who ain't never made music is one record away. Anybody make it, like, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Cow]

Liangelo Ball, we see.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You know, Lil Nas X just created a song in this room, and it turns into, like, the biggest song of this decade.

[Deontay Cow]

I always wonder, though, it seemed like. Because, truthfully, you one of the more talented rappers that I listen to, or that's just kind of like, in my stratosphere of what I listen to. I do listen to a lot of underground music, though, so I like to kind of deal with artists who ain't really big in the spotlight. I got my faves, of course, but I always like, okay, I'll keep an eye on this motherfucker. Like, this mother be extremely talented. But it seemed like it come with a lot of, like, I don't know what. I don't know what it is. I don't know why what make a pop or what don't. But it seemed like everybody can be in agreeance. Like, Akeem Ali is extremely talented. He's a great rapper, great songwriter. He has great production. We like Kimmy Casanova. But why isn't it like. But it's like, it feel like it's just like, somewhere lingering in the middle tier or something like that.

[Kimmy Casanova]

So a lot of it is. Some of it has been, like, my fault. All of it been my fault. I ain't gonna say none of it. Or some of it, it's been my fault. Even if it ain't been, it's been mine. What choices I'm choosing to make and how I'm setting stuff up to just kind of be stretched longer than just, like, boom, and then, like, he out of here. Part of it is, Brandon, It's a brand thing. Like. And I tell people all the time, one thing that I hate is when an artist comes out and has a very big song. Like, it seems like we didn't hear about him a year ago or two years ago, and then he come out all of a sudden, and he could have been working, and he come out and have a really big song that you hear everywhere. After that, you can start the clock on, yeah, I don't like it.

[Deontay Cow]

I see that. I think that's where. That's what I'm trying to kind of get into. It's like, you see these people that have, like, this one song and a meteoric rise, but as a consumer, but. And also somebody who loved the Genre, it's like that ain't got no staying power, you know what I'm saying? And then also naturally, once a motherfucker hear it or once you have that hit record, people gonna wanna know more about who you are and then who the person you are really just ain't it like, I don't fuck with that, but it's like, I mean, just sitting down with you, I mean, this shit feel natural. Like, this ain't no first link up. That's the vibe, you know what I'm saying? But at the same time, it's like, man, it, it, it breathes like curiosity, like how the. Ain't this a bigger thing? You know what I'm saying? That's what we were saying about like our last. One of our last guests, Omar Dorsey. It's like, man, this man have been in a thousand movies. Everybody know his face. But don't nobody really, like, they don't point at him and say, that's Omar Dorsey. They pointed him and say one of his characters.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I tell people this all the time, right? People don't care about. You think I'm here because I rap good. That's not true. You think I'm here because I got bars or the lyrics and not true at all, right? People don't care about that. What the thing is like the brand association, right? Because you probably know 10, 15 other who rap just as good as me. But it's like when that rap and the aesthetic that he has or like how he puts this together or the. He's talking about the subject matter, the style. That's what people are paying attention to, right? Like you can rap till you blue in the face, right?

[Deontay Cow]

That's why the work, that's why the rapping in the car shit, really, it don't move the needle. No, but like when you transition into your visuals. Because that's the thing that I've been seeing more like, you know what I'm saying? I remember you had. It was this one freestyle. You would know the freestyle. It was the one in the car. Okay, it was viral, but it's like it wasn't translating into people going to listen to the music. But I've been seeing since you've been doing more of the production and putting a lot more into the visuals, it's like, man, I'm seeing this n all the time, like your shit clicking. And like you said, it's just one record away. Do you feel like going again might be that one that's like, that's the one you pushing and leaning into right now. Cause I know you released seven singles last year. Just all over.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Oh, damn.

[Deontay Cow]

I wouldn't, you know.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I didn't know.

[Deontay Cow]

That's my job. You know what I'm saying? You just put the music out. I'm gonna go figure out how much you want. Ye. We could. We could play Going Again, if you don't mind.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah, all right, let's do it. Ain't gonna never stop you from having a good time now.

[Deontay Cow]

All right. This is going again. Akim Ali.

[Akeem Ali]

Said we would never have another disco dust on my patent leather the calm before the storm approaches I'm enjoying this antebellum I remember the last ride I remember the way we roll do you remember the past times? Do you remember the way to go? We get lost in this continuum how this year we've been levitating the stairway to heaven's lit tonight but it with the take the elevators so get ready cuz we going again I'll get ready cuz we rolling again get ready cuz we going again I get ready cuz we rolling oh get ready Cause we're going to park right outside of the solar system My spaceship don't need GPS Are we in love? Is it this year we all that's the only thing that we keep in question this ethereal pass down euphoria Is getting naked for us Celestial like the last ride the imperium's waiting for us Perpetuating this bliss together we see it all when we sit together Heaven just got electrified Pack a bag and get your shit together and get ready Cause we going again I'll get ready cause we rolling again get ready cause we going again I ain't get ready cause we going again get ready cause we're going to sa.

[Deontay Cow]

We're back with the sultry sounds of Chris next podcast. That's going again. Akeem Ali, man.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. So that was going again by Akeem Ali, the greatest rapper to ever walk the face of the earth that you didn't know was your favorite vocalist. Now, if you do me a favor and click that link in my bio and stream that today, run them funds up.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

So we can get the album put out.

[Deontay Cow]

And we're gonna put the link in the description too.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. Keep y'all gratified and satisfied.

[Deontay Cow]

That's why you thought that was gonn.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Not come here.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, Had a little margarita in the stuff, so. Need an album of that, bro.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Oh I man, this.

[Deontay Cow]

Oh man, a EP. Give me five tracks of that or something.

[Kimmy Casanova]

The album got 11 projects, I mean, 11 project. 11 songs. Damn.

[Deontay Cow]

Doing multilevel marketing.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Okay.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, I need to. You know what I'm saying? I got some places where I'd be at. I'd be looking for something to throw.

[Kimmy Casanova]

On, you feel me?

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, that's a nice little.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I can just ride to this. I just sit up and ride to the. That y'all be wanting to hear all the time that ain't released and be.

[Deontay Cow]

Like, man, this cold.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I'm killing these. But I'm the only one that know it.

[Deontay Cow]

That's the cold thing about music is like sometimes the. That's new to us is old to you.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Does that make it difficult for marketing?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. Hell yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah. You know, Heard this a million times.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I'm sick of it by the time y'all get it.

[Deontay Cow]

Right, right, right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

And Deontay Hitchcock said someone sound like it's up because artists that never get to hear their for the first time.

[Deontay Cow]

Man, I was like, damn, that's a cold.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I was like, damn, that ain't never lied neither. Cause I'm just like. I guess I get to hear it for the first time in completion, but like I'm listening to it the whole way throughout the process, so I just never get to hear it.

[Deontay Cow]

You're a cold ass rapper too, man.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

He a cold ass rapper. Don't be surprised if you see him on the couch. Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Like that. For me, he probably top five from Atlanta.

[Deontay Cow]

I think it's a lot of. It's a lot of young artists out here. That's like. Like you saying earlier, one record away and it. It's good. I think it's good to see you. Like. Okay. I. I like. You really like maturing and. And not only the production, but just like. And what you experiment with, like the vocalism and shit like that. Was that always kind of like a part of it? Yeah, and it's just like. It just take. It just take time to kind of like get to the point where you start singing and doing different things.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. That's all it is. Just deciding when I wanted to put it out there.

[Deontay Cow]

Right, right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

And what, like, in what vein? Like how I wanted people to perceive it or what I wanted it to be, what I wanted to be sitting next to that.

[Deontay Cow]

Right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You just can't put it anywhere or out with anything. You just kind of gotta like ease it in there.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah. Cause you can't put that next to the hardest rap ever, you know? Yeah. Right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

So it's like, yeah, be careful now. Like just kind of Sneak it in there and let do what they want to do.

[Deontay Cow]

Is there a expectation, a date on when we can see the project?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Soon.

[Deontay Cow]

Soon.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah, it's gonna be out soon.

[Deontay Cow]

What about throw them out there? Maybe three dream collaborations you could do in your career.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Beyonce, Bruno Mars, if we're going dead or alive. Michael Jackson. But if we're gonna keep all of it alive.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Probably Kendrick.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah. What about venues?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Stadiums.

[Deontay Cow]

Stadiums.

[Kimmy Casanova]

O.

[Deontay Cow]

Okay.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

All right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah, that's the dream right there.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, yeah. K, man, we ain't settling for less, man. The Garden. Yeah, we going Mercedes Benz Stadium right off the rip. We this. We. We gonna do something we ain't did in a little while.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Okay, Top five, top five, top five.

[Deontay Cow]

This week we're gonna do the top five album intros and we're gonna let a Kim Ali get in there with us. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna pop it off. I'm going. Honorable mention, Ultralight being okay. Number five, king back, T.I. number four, real testament intro plies. Number three, dreams and nightmares. Meek mill.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Okay.

[Deontay Cow]

At 2:50 cent. What up gangster? And I got the Beg for Mercy intro at number one.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Okay. I had to go and look at something cuz I thought I'm Illy. Was the intro on that paper.

[Deontay Cow]

I know what you're talking about there.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Oh, oh.

[Deontay Cow]

But Illy is crazy.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

I'm. I'm telling that TI Is like one of the best rappers to ever come out the South. I've been waving this flag for a.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Long time at the South. Top five.

[Deontay Cow]

I'm going top five. He in that top five for sure.

[Kimmy Casanova]

About the show. You can't. Yeah, no, I mean, if we.

[Deontay Cow]

If we go from I'm serious to Paper Trail, I mean, it's like that's a crazy run. And then he really found his sound in urban legend. So it's like, yeah, you. He a cold man.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Wicked. I. I ain't got no order for mine. I can give them out though.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, you just give me five.

[Kimmy Casanova]

And mine ain't specific to rap.

[Deontay Cow]

That's cold too.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Just on the intro tip to start thrill off with. Want to be starting something on that high energy like that. I'm like, God damn. And that song just come on, man.

[Deontay Cow]

That's a great song.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. So I want to be starting something. Then I got Bruno Mars, 24K Magic, that intro, EPs. I can't be mad at it. Meek Mill, Dreams and Nightmares. Definitely one of the greatest rap intros of my time, of my life. I don't even think. That's just the dynamic. How dynamic that rap intro was was just phenomenal. And then it just moves. Just kind of like, just punch you in the face.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Midway through the song.

[Deontay Cow]

I've never seen somebody perform that at their wedding.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I ain't. I ain't mad at that. I ain't even mad at it. What else we got? Kendrick Lamar's Untitled Unmastered. The first track on it just. It's a sleeper, but for multiple reasons. For me, it kind of helped me, I guess, put stuff together in perspective as a rapper when it came to storytelling details and descriptiveness. So I like it. It ain't even like one of the culture, you know, intros. It's just something that I'm just kind of like being a rap nerd about. Yeah, Let me see what else, man?

[Deontay Cow]

You got one more.

[Kimmy Casanova]

One more intro. I feel like it's. It's right there. I can't even think of it. I can't find it. Yeah, I can say Ultralight Beam. I'm not gonna lie. I was thinking about that and I'm.

[Deontay Cow]

Just like, it's just a complete song, bro.

[Kimmy Casanova]

It is.

[Deontay Cow]

Chance went crazy.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. I can't be mad at that song. So, yeah, I go with Ultralight Beam.

[Deontay Cow]

And then that made me feel like I'm in church with my grandma. For real.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I ain't gonna lie. I don't even. I don't really listen to gospel. I like ghetto gospel or gospel esque music. But, like, that song will make you cry.

[Deontay Cow]

Almost.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You be.

[Deontay Cow]

Nah, for real.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Who is that? Was it Kelly Price?

[Deontay Cow]

Kelly Price.

[Kimmy Casanova]

When she come on there. Oh, oh.

[Deontay Cow]

Start making you praise the Lord. Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I'm like, man, she. Why she doing this?

[Deontay Cow]

No, for real. I think we all feel the same. Saying as soon as Kelly come on up. Yeah, man, hold on. I'mma get you this, big cat. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead and do your thing. Big cat. Get the mic. Big cat's top five. N, n, n, n, n n. They hear me now. They hear me now.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You speed in third person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not big cats top five, but big cats top five. Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Big cats top five.

[Kimmy Casanova]

We here.

[Deontay Cow]

All right, so I got. I got three honorable mentions. I know, but top ten, I was. But look, I just had to throw them in there, bro. I had to do Meek Mills, Dreaming Nightmares as an honorable mention. Yeah, exactly.

[Kimmy Casanova]

That's nasty work. Had to do Charade, Master Splinter.

[Deontay Cow]

Master Splinter.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Okay.

[Deontay Cow]

And I had to do Love Sosa.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Okay, okay.

[Deontay Cow]

All right, so those are my three Honorable mentions. All right. And number one, love dmx, bro. DMX intro on It's Dark and Hell is Hot. One, two, one, two.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Come through. What?

[Deontay Cow]

Okay, that's my. You know, number one. Number two, beg for Mercy.

[Kimmy Casanova]

G Unit. Okay.

[Deontay Cow]

And number three, Jay Z's the Dynasty. That's a cold ass. At number four, Classical Gucci. Hey, I knew you was going. Hey, listen, I knew he was going that way. You know it's going that way. At number five. Real Testament intro plies. Can't you can't deny it. Nah, big catch. Top five, Smoke them. I don't know if I smoke Gucci.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Who?

[Deontay Cow]

I think. I think to the fan.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I think Gucci, man. Gucci, man. On the list.

[Deontay Cow]

Shout out.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Shout out my Gucci.

[Deontay Cow]

Hey, Gucci man. Make you want to ride around and sell some drugs.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah, for sure.

[Deontay Cow]

Had me. Had me in a goddamn cross face in the street.

[Kimmy Casanova]

What, him and Jeezy? Yeah, Every session album just.

[Deontay Cow]

I was telling somebody the other day, like, bro, them that have you, like, changing your life goals, like, what you want to be. When the brick, man. That's it. That's all I want to be.

[Kimmy Casanova]

That's all I know.

[Deontay Cow]

I don't want to do nothing else.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Jesus came on that video and said, I just want to be alive. I like. You know what? That don't sound bad.

[Deontay Cow]

Nah, that nigga own the something.

[Kimmy Casanova]

He know something we don't.

[Deontay Cow]

We also got a special top five. Top five. Top five. Specifically for Kim Ali.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Okay?

[Deontay Cow]

Top five albums to learn how to rap.

[Kimmy Casanova]

If I wanted to learn how to rap. Top five albums that I would listen to. Damn. Did I. Damn, am I even thinking about this? If I wanted to learn how to rap, the top five albums I would listen to, in no particular order, gonna be Marsha Mathis lp.

[Deontay Cow]

That ain't lying.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Good kid, man. How to rap. This ain't an album, it's a mixtape. The Waters by Mick Jenkins. What was that? Three.

[Deontay Cow]

That's three. That's three. You got two more.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good, good, good. The Waters. I'mma go with Black History Project by side. How to Prince Underrated. Yeah. And then I'm gonna go with Learn how to Rap. Learn how to rap. Learn how to rap. Learn how to rap. Okay, okay, okay. Now this is a tough one because it's either gonna be. I'm gonna go with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. It was gonna be College Dropout or Late Registration or. But I just. I'll go. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fancy.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, man.

[Kimmy Casanova]

So those five. Yeah. And all for different reasons. All for different reasons. If you're gonna listen to Marsha Mathis lp, it's gonna literally teach you how to rap. From a technical standpoint, I think Eminem is the greatest. From a technical standpoint. The greatest rapper to ever live technically.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

The rhyme schemes, the flow patterns, how he does it. Like, and he gets away with saying whatever he wants to say.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

If you want to learn how to storytell Good Kid Man City, it's the album you listen to.

[Deontay Cow]

Right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

To follow a complete story that sounded like a. A movie.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Without having. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Cow]

Especially the. That got like, two of the greatest hip hop songs ever on there. Like, single by me, I'm done the third.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yes.

[Deontay Cow]

And the art of peer pressure. The art of peer pressure in itself, when we talk, that's hard. But I'm with the homies right now.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I literally stay walking around the house being like, I just be out of nowhere. Hey, somebody in this room. What is somebody in this? Just out of nowhere.

[Deontay Cow]

That I think the thing that kind of. When I was first listening to it, it's like that, man. I was just telling somebody this, bro. This is the appeal of Yandro. I'll let you get your off. This is the appeal of Young dro bro. Love on the monopel, bro. Love like, sounds so that I, I, I, I that just hard. Cause DRO get like, what the Is a choi, yo. Like, let that get off, though. Like that hard and on them on appeal, bro. That's two favorite things right there.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I have noticed a lot of that. But who do that? There's a bunch of that do that. But yeah. So you listen to storytelling. Yeah. You listen to Eminem. If you want to learn how to rap on a technical level. Just pure rap. Technically, you listen to Good Kid Man City for the storytelling element. You listen to the Waters by Mick Jenkins. If you are like me and don't know how to stay on one subject. When you listen to a nigga talk about One thing for 15, 16 songs straight, you know then that it's not impossible, right? When you want to create something and you want to create something that's just like, it got continuity, but it sounds different. I have never met a nigga talk about one thing that much and make it sound different so many times. That was impressive on so many levels. I'm not gonna lie. The Waters is probably like, bruh, definitely.

[Deontay Cow]

It's so slept on.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Top five mixtapes of all time for me.

[Deontay Cow]

Mick and himself is slept On. But the Waters really, like, kind of my head up when I first heard, definitely. Because I never like what you saying about staying on one subject, but it's like, bro, this. It was like bullet. Bullet points.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You know what? Ray put me on it. Ray King, K. Yeah, we. It's what, 2014. And I remember it was like, two, three. He tried to get me to listen to that. Yeah. He was like, listen to Open Mic Eagle and listen to Mick Jenkins, the Waters. And so I was working a warehouse job overnight, and I tried to open Mic Eagle. And I was like, it's cool, but I ain't fucking with it. Listen to the Waters.

[Deontay Cow]

And it sounded like a baptism. For real.

[Kimmy Casanova]

What? Like, bro, to this day, like, I'm just like. And that helped me, like, literally learn how to, like, stick to something when I was writing about a subject. So if you want to learn how to storytell, listen to Kakeem Sidi. If you want to learn how to stick to your story, listen to the water. You feel me, Saha? If it ain't one thing inside I taught me how to do is how to use syllables in my reps. Yeah. I learned how to do syllable work from Saha and this other rapper named Fleetwood Fred, that's from Atlanta. But I listen to that just. And bars, bars, bars. Just, like, like, setting up bars and having, like, better. Who's better?

[Deontay Cow]

Who's better than Saha? That shit.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Listen, bro, I'm saying that you can't beat the master.

[Deontay Cow]

No, no, that wasn't a challenge.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Look.

[Deontay Cow]

Hold on.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Got 24 hours to respond.

[Deontay Cow]

I. I was telling that the best performance last year because it wasn't, like, a lot of videos to siphon through that. That on the. That on the street performance for Flash. So I had a prince.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

I was like, that was one of the best, like, visual and lyrical performances I've seen because he rapped over that doja cat beat and he. I don't know, man. It's. That nigga. I don't know, man. He made that look easy as fuck.

[Kimmy Casanova]

He is definitely one of them ones when it comes to bars. And just, like, enunciation, like, if you want to learn how to, like, rap, but also have, like, great enunciation and good setups for bars.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah. And then.

[Kimmy Casanova]

And Wayne, bar master over everybody. I'm just gonna say bar master over everybody.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah. Try to.

[Kimmy Casanova]

If you want to learn how to rap and have bars, but everybody don't care about bars. So that's why I didn't put that. Some care about, like, real rap.

[Deontay Cow]

Like, just care about the bars.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. But if you gonna learn how to, like, rap for bars. Any Wayne project.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, just.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Just anything Wayne's. And I'm gonna say no ceilings.

[Deontay Cow]

I was gonna go drop three, but. All right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Okay. Yeah, it's. It's just like little brother, big brother.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, for sure.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah, for sure, for sure. My beautiful, dark, twisted fanny. Fanny. Beautiful, dark, twisted fanny. Yeah, I know what I meant. Fantasy, man. What's your fanny doing? Dark and twisted, my boy. Hey, come get this, man.

[Deontay Cow]

Yo.

[Kimmy Casanova]

My beautiful dark, twisted fantasy.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah. One of the greatest albums of all time.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah, Just a classic album, man, if you want to learn how to make a good body of work. And all of these that I named are great bodies of work, but Kanye's.

[Deontay Cow]

Just a masterpiece in production.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah, his genius is just unmatched, bro.

[Deontay Cow]

And this is the visual he put to it, bro. Yeah, he just.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Wow. He a wild with it. And that's just been somebody who's helped me just. Yeah. Oh, you know what? I would say I did lie because Mick Jenkins ain't in my top 10. That mixtape is in my top 10 mixtapes of all time. He ain't in my top 10 rappers, but Cold nigga nonetheless.

[Deontay Cow]

Cold nigga.

[Kimmy Casanova]

He probably gonna be top 20 for me, though.

[Deontay Cow]

Well, since you brought him back up, how did you feel about the this he sent at Joey Batter?

[Kimmy Casanova]

I ain't heard it. I heard it. I don't be tuned into nothing nowadays.

[Deontay Cow]

You want to hear it?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Come on. We can listen.

[Deontay Cow]

Hold on.

[Kimmy Casanova]

We can listen and just pop and fly.

[Deontay Cow]

Felt like a statement piece, huh? Yeah, but we ain't heard nothing.

[Kimmy Casanova]

That's a good rapping, too.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah. Good rapper, man. I thought I. I really just thought. I ain't really think the Joey would ruffle that many feathers, because it's like.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You'Re doing the right thing, though.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

He is like a hit dog. Gonna holler.

[Deontay Cow]

There you go.

[Kimmy Casanova]

If you weren't talking to me, I don't feel the need to respond. But, yeah, I think until the say your name or. And like, it's some subliminals you can't get around. Like, can't be subliminal. But, like, if a be like, yeah, we see you over there rolling with your pimp hand. I'm like, don't nobody say that. Don't nobody do that but me, like. Or, like. You know what I'm saying? Always talk about rolling, but never be like. And I'm like, all right, now y'all niggas is playing. Yeah, don't nobody say that shit right.

[Deontay Cow]

You feel me? Right?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Or if you just like, yeah, nigga. Like, just anything specifically towards him. I guess some just be offended maybe. If you feel like you.

[Deontay Cow]

I think also, too, it's like, if you got something coming, I'd be feeling.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Like I need a beef with a something.

[Deontay Cow]

You see the moment, but I'm so smooth.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I'd just be like, y'all can have that. Yeah, but I'll be the.

[Deontay Cow]

But then the thing is, too, is like, they become a part of your rep. You know what I'm saying? Become. You know, it could either go in the file cabinet, or it could be the thing.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I'm not. I'm not stopping, though. Some, like, stopping admit, like, I ain't gonna lie. This type of. I am. I don't. I want to hurt nobody in real life. Like, if it. If we out now, we really got beef. Because thing is, I don't know you, right. If you said something about me on a song and I just got back at you like, you don't know me from a candy paint. Like. But when I get out in public, we was just rapping. When it's not rap, it's not rap, Then we gonna handle. Like, we can handle that. Yeah, but don't say nothing about me if it. If you don't. If you don't want like said about you. But I'm. I'm the type of. That. If I was Kendrick after Not like us, I would have kept stomping.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

This is not it. Like.

[Deontay Cow]

But I mean, in a way. I mean, the pop out, and that is another stone.

[Kimmy Casanova]

No, no.

[Deontay Cow]

You want more balls?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Can I say that Drake lost, But not to say. I ain't saying I ain't.

[Deontay Cow]

Well, I will. I ain't gonna say n. Lost.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I feel like. I honestly feel like, in my opinion, other than the hard part, six, I feel like Drake rapped better. Kendrick outmaneuvered.

[Deontay Cow]

That's fair.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Like, Kendrick out strategized that nigga on so many levels. And I was like. Cause when he dropped Family Matters, I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then he coming with Meet the Grounds. I'm like, oh, like, the way that looked.

[Deontay Cow]

He took the air out of that shit.

[Kimmy Casanova]

The way that looked. Like, when he had that moment was like, oh, Drake responded, sending it to everybody. But to just come and be like, wait. Kendrick, too, was like, he didn't let that breathe.

[Deontay Cow]

Nah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Outmaneuvered.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

That set the tone. And then the next day, not like us. I'm like, what The.

[Deontay Cow]

I don't think the way he maneuvered with that bro was a better rapper. I feel like Euphoria is the best rapping performance from Kendrick. Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yes. Definitely. Yes.

[Deontay Cow]

I think 616 and.

[Kimmy Casanova]

And 616 in LA.

[Deontay Cow]

Great rapping performance. I. Family Matters did what it was supposed to do, but it was like, you didn't know Meet the Grams.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Push Ups was nice. I like Push Ups too. Niggas don't like Push Ups as much as I like Push Ups. But that was like classic Drake doing what he would do in a rap beef. If it was against anybody else but Kendrick, Push Ups would have definitely been like. I was like.

[Deontay Cow]

I think the thing too, about Meet the Grams is, like, the nigga had a whole production. He had the K Man City van. He had a whole thing that go along Family Mountain. And then he just, like, took all the air out that.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

I was like, damn, was looking crazy.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I was at the studio that night and like, come on, you ready? I'm gonna punch you back in. I'm like, one second. Dang. These over here fighting up. They fight for their life. I'm trying to. Give me a minute.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

But no, I'm. Don't say nothing about me.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Because after I win, I'm still gonna keep papping you out.

[Deontay Cow]

I'm gonna keep having directly at Joe. I think Mix was more like a. I'm spraying the whole club. But, like, everybody in this Raymond is a cold too. Now, Rayvon went directly at Joe and he. I ain't gonna lie. That. That kind of like, wrapped that whole conversation.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Where'd he do it on? Was it over the Hard Part six? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was that. Okay, well, no, I'm. Name it. Joey, shut your ass up. That's what I'm gonna name it.

[Deontay Cow]

That's basically if it's me. Yeah, yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

No, it's gonna be just that.

[Deontay Cow]

I ain't gonna be Crash Out Heritage. That's the name.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Okay. Once I know you talking to me or about me, like, come on, let's go and do it. Because, you know, I gotta make an example out of one of y'all. All right. This ain't that type of party. Yeah, and that's why I stopped doing, like, the car videos, too. Like, when I'm like, I'm. Do you feel I study battle rap for a living. I study all forms of rap for a living.

[Deontay Cow]

Because most people that get. That's really lyrical, of course, naturally, you gotta gravitate to battle rap, and we love battle rap over here. Too. So.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Been watching battle rap since 2010.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, same as soon as I figured out YouTube, I was locked in. And I'm any battle I didn't.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I found loaded looks. And I remember telling my homeboys, I was like, this nigga a better rapper than Wayne. I was tripping, but no but that's how that shit. It made me feel. And then I was like, is these niggas freestyling this?

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, and it's acapella. And so it ain't no beat it. Make that hit 10 times harder. Yeah, I think I was in that. Like, you remember when used to battle rap at the pool table and like that?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Like, Serious Jones Fight night or Fight Club?

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, fight club. Hollow. The dawn.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah, when he was Arsenal and Hollow.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah. Yeah, man. That's when I was like, all right, these the coldest on earth at this. We bring you over here into to our world real quick. We need call in sometimes. You should get a little crazy.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Hi.

[Caller 1]

First, I just want to begin by saying thank you so, so much for creating this podcast. Like, it genuinely feels like a safe space for young black individuals like me, who kind of need a different outlet or just a different perspective. Shout out, Big Ice Cub. Good to see you. Long story short, I'm gonna keep it short because I know y'all don't like too long of a fucking situation, but long story short, I met this man. Background. We're both in our early 20s, no kids, kind of living our best lives. Just for a little bit of background, me and him, we have both lived in Denver, Colorado, our whole lives, but he ended up moving to Houston. And he's been on this big one. He's been going to bar room school, doing all that. And so my question is, is that we've had such an amazing friendship, and I really. I have big feelings for him. Like, genuinely big feelings. Like, I feel like I'm in love with this man. Maybe I'm fucking delusional.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I don't know.

[Caller 1]

But long story short, do I tell him how I feel and risk our friendship, or do I kind of hold it in and let shit play out like a slow burn? And for a little background, like, we've been talking, we put a little cream in the sheets or in the streets just one time. But beyond that, like, I feel like we both have very deep intellectual conversations. We see, like, he's a reflection of me, I'm a reflection of him. And I don't want to risk that by getting my feelings involved, but I feel like I want to get it off my chest. So if you have any advice, let me know. But that's it. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

[Deontay Cow]

Well, thank you for calling in. Go get your man. What are you doing? Leave Denver. There's nothing there for. Your man is in Houston. I mean, if y'all. I mean, y'all only did the dude one time, and you got these big feelings. First of all, you can't. Nothing worse than thinking you kicking it with a friend and they in love with.

[Kimmy Casanova]

With you. I ain't gonna say ain't nothing worse than that.

[Deontay Cow]

Okay. All right. No, it's. No, it's some worst thing.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Crack does exist now, but he over there and got hold to your beautiful, dark, twisted fanny in you.

[Deontay Cow]

Okay, all right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

He doing the knowledge.

[Deontay Cow]

I don't know, man. I think if you said. I mean, you can't. If you gonna up the friendship, it's gonna be by not telling the. How you really feel about him. Because you're gonna.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Go ahead.

[Deontay Cow]

This is what we do it for. Go ahead.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Oh, no. All right, so my. My initial thoughts. She like, okay, do I tell him how I feel? If y'all hunching. You know how he feel about you, right? You know how you feel about him. If he gonna hit y'all risking like, those are feelings right there.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

But I'm like, damn, y'all hunched one time and never did it again. That's got me thinking, like, he probably don't like your cause. If I love you, are you my best friend? And I hit and it's everything I thought it would have been. I'm like, and you're my best friend, too. I could. It don't get no better than this.

[Deontay Cow]

Damn. Shout out. He might have. He might have. He might have hit that. Nah, I like her as a friend. We gonna keep you feel me?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Like, she. She over here turtle shelling. I'm trying to march that back, sip this yak and bust that back. Turtle shelling. No, but he might be on the same thing, though. He don't want to mess it up, I think.

[Deontay Cow]

I mean, if you got the feelings, though, I think the most honest thing you could do is express it.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Ah.

[Deontay Cow]

You know, you risk the friendship. But then also, it's like, how long you gonna be able to be friends with a. If you in love with them, it's gonna come out. Like, what's gonna happen if y'all link?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

You gonna make a move, somebody gonna bust a move, and then y'all gonna be back again. You might as well express how you.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Feel it's about, like, how you do it, too. Like.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, you can't just pull it out the bl.

[Kimmy Casanova]

If it was me talking to my home girl. Look, I'm in love with you. I want to be with you. If you don't want to be with a, just say that. I ain't gonna be worried about it. We can still be friends. I just want you to know how I feel about you. You can tell me about your escapades with your little. Your little giants or your niggas or whoever you gonna be moving and grooving with, and it won't be nothing like talking about. You know what I'm saying? I still play my role. I'm gonna go on a dip off over here and give me a little.

[Deontay Cow]

But I gotta tell you how I feel, because if I don't tell you how I feel and you telling about the next thing, I'm be mad as.

[Akeem Ali]

A bitch breaking my heart.

[Deontay Cow]

Oh, being paid for real. Nah, you never do that.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You around and get hold of somebody and be like, yeah, I'm engaged to it. You going to be sick as a dog. Sick. Yeah, I think I'm engaged.

[Deontay Cow]

My girl. I got my girl pregnant. You going to be out there. You going to be in Denver throwing up.

[Kimmy Casanova]

It was supposed to be me.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, you going to be at the French press up.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Oh, man.

[Deontay Cow]

Shout out. Denver French press. Great restaurant. Oh, all right. We got number two. Yeah, man. Tell that man how you feel. Stop playing Scary.

[Caller 2]

Hey, Deontay. What up, big cat? I'm a huge fan of your show. I'm out here in Utah. Got some listeners out here in bse, but I'm just calling in because.

[Deontay Cow]

I.

[Caller 2]

Was just looking for some advice, man. Like, I'm. I'm 27, about to be 28. I got a. I just had a son about two years ago. I love being a dad. Anyways, me and his mom haven't had, like, the best relationship and ended really, really bad. And, you know, like, it ended bad in the. In the sense that, like, we. I kind of left her when she was mid pregnancy, which wasn't okay, and I. You know, I fully acknowledge that. But, yeah, so, I mean, I did that, and I never didn't want to be a part of my son's life. It was just that me and her were really toxic with each other, and I needed to create space between us, and so I did that. And, you know, I mean, obviously, it created a lot of issues between me and. Me and my baby mama. And I once. Once she had her son. I, you know, I took her to court so I could just secure, like, you know, my parental rights and whatnot. And so I did that. And everything was rocky at first, and then it got better. And, you know, because we weren't together, and we're just, you know, co parenting, doing that whole adult thing. And, you know, then after two years, you know, I was single. I've been single since, and she. She was engaged, and then, you know, had some shit happen with her engagement and her. Her last partner. And then after they split, we kind of, like, started seeing each other again. And, you know, we're just revisiting a lot of the old problems we had in our last relationship. And I guess what I'm asking is, you know, like, I don't know. I guess I'm asking personally, what is the best move? Because, I mean. I mean, I. I do genuinely care about her, and I love her, you know, she is a mother of my son. But, you know, since you only get.

[Deontay Cow]

Three minutes to tell us, man, shit, nigga. Are y'all thinking about the child? First of all, you leave her during pregnancy, then you take the mental course. So you get a custody battle.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

She go get engaged.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Fallout.

[Deontay Cow]

Now y'all back around. And you don't think it's gonna be toxic or what should you do? Like, bro, you should think about the child. Y'all already been down this road before. Also, it's like, you don't seem like the type of person that's, like, you seem like a very one foot in, one foot out of that. Like, because to leave during the pregnancy is crazy. And saying. Saying it's toxic. You knew she was toxic. You knew it was like that before you got her pregnant. Don't just get toxic when. When get pregnant. Also, the lack of consideration of, like, hormones, her body changing. Your child is in there.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

It's a lot you got.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I would say, if this is your first time as a father. And a lot of that hit me when I. When my daughter was pregnant. You just don't know how to handle a woman if you've never been through that.

[Deontay Cow]

That's a fact.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I did not. My main focus was, like, sticking with her throughout the pregnancy, though. I was like, if there's gonna be a point where I don't want to be here, it'll be after my baby's got here. She's kind of calmed down, and, like, some of the postpartum is kind of like, you know what I'm saying, fizzing out. And I Could talk to her and it'd be like a sensible conversation.

[Deontay Cow]

Right.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Leaving during and taking her to court.

[Deontay Cow]

Is like, just leave her alone.

[Kimmy Casanova]

What I would tell you, though, is if you can get her to listen and understand you, thank her for allowing you to grow up and gain perspective and being able to step away and realize that, you know, you was missing her. I'm not gonna tell you that you gotta sit there and deal with shit you don't want to deal with. But everything ain't gonna be like peaches and cream. What I will tell you is just like, if you feel like you're in the wrong and which I feel like you feel like you are, you just kind of gotta, like, sit there and tough a lot of that shit out. For real. For real.

[Deontay Cow]

You gonna have to thug it out just. Cause it's like. I mean, she always gonna be able to play that you left me while I was pregnant.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

And that's.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You took me to court.

[Deontay Cow]

Like, yeah, you're gonna have to eat all that. So if you don't. If you ain't ready to deal with that. And then also, too, it's like, there's no telling how she gonna even mature out of that because that every time y'all conversing in the back of her mind, this nigga left me while I was pregnant and took me to court for the baby.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah. I can't trust you in my most vulnerable.

[Deontay Cow]

Out of my most vulnerable state. And then what if you get her pregnant again? Then she gonna be thinking about this nigga might leave. I'm gonna keep it real with you now. I'm gonna tell you something that happened with my first child. My. My 13 year old. I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. I'm 20 years old, she pregnant. We moved out. I'm doing the thing. I don't got two jobs. I'm doing the thing. But dealing with her in that state, it's like, I don't. I'm not mature enough to understand, like, all this entails, bro. This is difficult because it could change from time to time. Like, I got locked up. I ain't had no license. And her ass was, like, crying about some goddamn Taco Bell. I went to go get the Taco Bell, got pulled over, went to jail, got back out, wasn't even tripping. I was just like, I'm. I'm. You pregnant. It's either I stay in here and like, literally watch you cry about food, or I just go get the food. I'm driving every day. Anyway, ain't about nothing. But after we had the baby, I think the baby was like two, three months old. I realized, like, I don't. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I don't have the right mind. And so I know her grandma stayed in Alabama. We was roommating with people. Them niggas wasn't respecting the crib, like, all type of shit. They was on some, like, young bachelor shit. And we over here on some, like, we building a family type shit. And I was like, I gotta get her up out of here.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

And so I had told her, like, go to Alabama with your grandma for three months so I can get us up out of here and get us our own shit. All I need is 90 days. And of course she thinking like, oh, you trying to break up with me? You don't want to be the father.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Want to be with the bitches.

[Deontay Cow]

You want to be with these hoes, all type of shit, right? And I'm like, look, bro, you gotta trust me. Like, I know what I'm doing. When you. In 90 days, I'm gonna have all this together because we can't. Because, like, these will come in drunk, smoking, all type of. And it's like, bro, my baby here and all that. I almost got to hitting with a no. Matter of fact, I did get to hit him with that. But that happened afterwards, after we had moved out. But yeah, 90 days, I got my. Together. We had our own apartment. I went and got them, moved them in. But it's like, you ain't even. Like you ain't get through the tough stuff. Like, that's the tough. The pregnancy. That's tough.

[Kimmy Casanova]

That is.

[Deontay Cow]

Them would be crying, man. She cried over some McDonald's cookies one time. Like, it. But it's like, what you gonna do? You gonna argue with this?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Just to be there by themselves, though, like, doing that. I ain't gonna lie.

[Deontay Cow]

That's. It's even rougher.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I was feeling sorry for my baby mama. It's like some days I'm like, damn, that just hurting. My back hurt.

[Deontay Cow]

Like, everything hurt.

[Kimmy Casanova]

It's a lot of that come with it that we don't sometimes see because it don't happen to our body, significant other or our bodies. But, man, when I tell you, like, they'll lose hair.

[Deontay Cow]

What? Yeah. And then they face swell up or they nose spread, or they.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Everything, they start, like, losing memory. People that went blind being pregnant and like, like, on top of, like, I could die.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Just out here just going blind and never Seeing again.

[Deontay Cow]

It's a huge sacrifice, bro.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

All we got to do is just leave it in for real.

[Kimmy Casanova]

And they wake up one day, can't see a thing. Rob this pussy blind. Damn. Just wake up one more baby.

[Deontay Cow]

Robbing the pussy blind is crazy.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Are you there? Yeah, I'll be out in a minute. I can't see shit. She wake up one day, I can't see the fucking shit out of this thing, man.

[Deontay Cow]

All I hear is criticize, criticize, criticize, man. What nigga done robbed the pussy blind, man?

[Kimmy Casanova]

That's crazy. No, I mean, I would tell you, bro. Like, go back and this ain't to say that you're not, but go back and just be a man some. You just got to thug out. You got to tough it out for the sake of, like, a family unit, if that's what you truly want. Like.

[Deontay Cow]

And don't get her pregnant again. Just.

[Kimmy Casanova]

At least not.

[Deontay Cow]

Not right now. Give each other a year to sort through y'all.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Let your son grow up so he can. She can have somebody if you leave again, at least son would be there to kind of like, it's all right, Mom. Her king, right? My one and only king. You never loved us.

[Deontay Cow]

You know she gonna be pumping that head. You know he left me while you was. While I was pregnant with you, right?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Oh, man, he gonna get squabbling with his daddy.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah. Yeah, you left me, motherfucker. All right, which I want to do first. We ain't doing music submissions today because the copyright and a lot of these I can't get over here. And it don't sound as good when we played all the speakers. We're gonna figure out that technical issue, and we'll be back next week. All right, Subject line, Thoroughly confused or the other subject line. My ex. And the.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah, okay.

[Deontay Cow]

My ex.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I was thoroughly confused at all of that.

[Deontay Cow]

You just said my ex. And the top of the morning. Second time writing y'all. By the time y'all read. By the time y'all read this, I already done nixed the broad out of my Life again. It's A.D. oh, we don't. You know, we don't say nothing. I still wanted to write y'all this little story in hopes you roast the shit out of me and make me see the error in my stupidity. So we met in high school. Long story short, we've been off and on for 13 years. Biggest highlight of our relationship. I got her pregnant twice, and she aborted both babies without telling me till after. I wanted. All right, bro. We Already dealt with you in this shit. We know who this nigga is. Nah, son, we. We off you, son. You kicking with your bullshit. Nah, let's finish. Let's hear him out. Let's hear what he had to say. All right. Time passed after this. Okay. I wanted to be a father. No, they weren't intentional on my end. Yeah, that's where you lost me. Pregnancy is always intentional on the man's end. I just feel like precom, you leaving it in.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You leaving it in.

[Deontay Cow]

Precom is a myth. You're leaving it in.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I'm gonna give y'all the secret to leaving it in.

[Deontay Cow]

Okay. All right. We got a chemistry.

[Kimmy Casanova]

A lot of men don't know that there's only a certain window of time that you can get a woman.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, they got to be ovulating.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yes. So. And when she's not ovulating, you can let it.

[Deontay Cow]

You can let it fly.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Just let it rip. Yeah, that's it.

[Deontay Cow]

Get that. Get that out.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I ain't saying go crazy now.

[Deontay Cow]

No, get the app.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Track that like.

[Deontay Cow]

But also, like, if you want to play us, just pull out, man. It's. It's okay. Because that feeling come with a baby. Blind.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Rob it blind. That's what I'm thinking over here. I'm like, she going to wake up and not see too much. Pull out. Can't see out of this. That's what it's gonna be.

[Deontay Cow]

We're gonna move on to thoroughly confused because that he be going through the most. This is low key a lot, so if you do read it, I'm sorry in advance. What's up, Deontay? Big ice cup. MJ21. Met this woman back in October. We really hit it off on the first date. I'm talking sparks flying type. She cute, funny. She mad sweet. She does have a medical condition called endometriosis. It's preventing her from having children. She expressed to me that having children and raising a family are major aspirations of hers, but her condition was getting in the way. I should also mention that she's ordering me by, like, a handful of years. It's probably another contributing factor, but I digress. She recently had a procedure to correct that, but it resulted in the loss of one of her ovaries. After the operation, we spoke, and she told me verbatim, the doctor says I need to try and have a baby as soon as possible. Naturally, I was flooded with a plethora of thoughts and emotions, namely confusion and a little anxiety. I gave her a list of reasons why I don't think I'm a wise choice as a baby daddy candidate. And she got upset with me. Those being my financial situation and my mental. Don't get it twisted. Young have emotion. We ctc. Chase that check right here. Pop your. I don't think it would be financially responsible to add a child to the equation. My next reason as I just turned 21. You're using your cabeza. I've been told numerous times that I'm mature for my age, and I've always had a knack for attracting older women. But I know mentally there's still a lot of growth that I have to make. Also, we only met in October of 24. I feel like Babe, retalk three months in is dastardly work. It is. It is. Did I navigate the situation correctly? What would y'all have done? Should I have done something differently? Any advice? I'm gonna tell you what I would have did. As soon as you would have mentioned a baby, I would have been out of there three months. Are you out of your mind asking?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Like, you don't even know me.

[Deontay Cow]

The length of time it take to have a baby. At least know me nine months first. What are you talking about?

[Kimmy Casanova]

True.

[Deontay Cow]

You have a. You have a. You know what I'm talking.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I feel like asking for advice is like, should I go have the baby?

[Deontay Cow]

No, you should not. You did what you were supposed to do. I'm gonna tell you, in my business.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You'Re a smart young man.

[Deontay Cow]

You're a smart nigga. Man.

[Kimmy Casanova]

You doing your thing at 21.

[Deontay Cow]

You would have did it.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Everybody who don't want to get the fuck out shooting everything up. Nah.

[Deontay Cow]

What I would have been. I would have been. I would have did my best. Kimmy casting. It seemed like God don't want you to have a baby. Baby.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Okay. It says the powers that be seem.

[Deontay Cow]

Like the man up above.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Want you to pack that thought up.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Just ain't working in your favor, baby.

[Deontay Cow]

Man, I'm telling you, bro. Now I'm curious of what this other was talking about.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Damn.

[Deontay Cow]

I'm curious. But we're gonna let. We gonna let him rock out. Cause this. It's so long, though, bro.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Sheesh.

[Deontay Cow]

Oh, no. This get juicy. Hold on. We. It's getting long and it's getting juicy. That's work, son. Yo, relax, my boy. Nah, you what you talking about right now? You got it. That's on me. That was crazy.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I was just gonna let you rock out. I ain't.

[Deontay Cow]

I appreciate it.

[Kimmy Casanova]

It. I ain't got nothing to do with me. I said it. However you choose. Look, however you choose to.

[Deontay Cow]

I gotta hit myself with the A. Yo. We're gonna wrap it. We're gonna wrap it up at long and juicy. 657234 is 657-234-3447. February 8, 6pm Vibe Studio, Jackson, Mississippi Live podcast. Me and big ice Cub cat self made cool gonna be there to perform the intro. Cope Boomaye Reagan Cade Young Jules performing. This has been episode 46 featuring Akim Ali. You got any plugs? You got any things upcoming you want.

[Kimmy Casanova]

To plug the man with the plan, that kid that did. Yeah.

[Deontay Cow]

Type shit.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Everything good is always understood.

[Deontay Cow]

Follow me.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Oh, I was gonna say the same thing. Follow me or swallow me. The choice is yours. Either way, I'm fine.

[Deontay Cow]

What's your handles?

[Kimmy Casanova]

Akeem Ali on all social media. A K E E M Ali on Instagram. Akeem triple underscore Ali on Twitter. Damn. Tick Tock.

[Deontay Cow]

Nah, it's back.

[Kimmy Casanova]

It is.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, it's back.

[Kimmy Casanova]

It's back up.

[Deontay Cow]

It's back.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Valuable on the top then with me.

[Deontay Cow]

We bet. Rolling.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Oh, man, they came to. They settled that quick?

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, they said Trump. That scared me. It's like thanks to President Trump's efforts. But they say he negotiated.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Say welcome back.

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, they said he negotiating to do get 50 state instead of complete ownership for America. An American company. You have 50 go 50. 50 with them.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Oh, so this y'all shit, but we want 50 of it?

[Deontay Cow]

Yeah, basically.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yes, sir.

[Deontay Cow]

You know how these.

[Kimmy Casanova]

He a businessman, though.

[Deontay Cow]

I mean he a mobster. Yeah, he's straight up.

[Kimmy Casanova]

He used to doing business. And they probably make more money off us than anybody.

[Deontay Cow]

Oh God. It's 120 million users and like 7 million businesses, they want in on that.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah, like, and we probably most of it.

[Deontay Cow]

We already done moved all our business over there. Like factory working. Like damn. We can't. You can't have our people too.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Yeah, I'm. I'm. Oh, that's what I wanted to say. We're doing a going again tour this summer in June. All right. You're hitting it here first. So tickets will be available. The link will be in my bio as soon as they're available. Yeah, it'll be on Tick Tock. Yeah, yeah. And Instagram and Twitter. So come see me on a going again tour, man. This summer. All right.

[Deontay Cow]

Atlanta date.

[Kimmy Casanova]

I don't got the date yet.

[Deontay Cow]

No, I'm saying you gonna have.

[Kimmy Casanova]

Oh, yeah, I'm gonna be here for sure, man.

[Deontay Cow]

I'm coming. Best.

[Kimmy Casanova]

We in there, man.

[Deontay Cow]

Man. No, man. It's been a king my lead. It's been a great interview, brother. I appreciate you pulling up episode 46. We out.