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Deontay Kyle
Yeah woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty south with a dirty mouth my knee or a bit miss things things on me like a norbit had to refuse them cause my no rest gorgeous as I doubt my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead tell them we gonna get this money to my like it's morbid remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't gotta like a regardless baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me we like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee flick your cigarette and let a vent yeah, we back.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh, we back. Grist and eggs podcast episode 48. Oh, I'm Deontay Kyle. But who's behind the camera?
Guest Speaker
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Big Ice Cup Cat
Uhhuh. Huh. Big patreon cat in the building.
Guest Speaker
Biggest hell kitchens cat's kitchen cat.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, cook as always. Deontay.com on Instagram Bigore Cat89. That's big with two GS.
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Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guest Speaker
For the photos for all the exclusive.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Grizzly next photos, all the behind the scenes photos. Big cat lens deontay deontaycow.com or you can go gritsandeggspod gmail.com you want to call in 657234 eggs at 657-234-3447 deontaycow.com for that good merch. January is coming to an end. Oh, we. We couldn't even do no plugs. Last me was here, we just started talking. We didn't do no intro and then y'all will see that. But we didn't plug merch. Merch is going to be consolidated down quite a bit in February. I think we just got too many items. So we're gonna try to find a way to make it a little bit more dense, less options. Still great quality. Deonce Kyle.com for all your merch. Also Deonce Kyle.com live show gang. February 8th. Get your tickets, Jackson, Mississippi. If you stay within three hours of Jackson, Mississippi, I expect to see you there. All right. How you feeling?
Guest Speaker
I feel good, man. We back.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We are back, man.
Guest Speaker
It's been a minute since we just. Yeah, it's just us.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've been. We've been running through interviews, doing a lot of collabing.
Guest Speaker
A lot of cream in the streets. Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Put a lot of cream in the street. A lot of crossover episodes. Absolutely great guest though, man. We just did the episode with Meech yesterday. Of course that's not how it's gonna come out on YouTube, but man, natural, bro was cool as hell.
Guest Speaker
Yeah. He just came sit down and start talking.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, we just started talking, bro. We talked for a good like 20 minutes and it was like we should just record.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, just, just.
Big Ice Cup Cat
And just go.
Guest Speaker
Just press the button.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, some of that I'm glad you know what I mean? But I mean, we. What's the vast array of guests? We've had a comic, a basic. A hip hop journalist.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
A. A world renowned actor.
Guest Speaker
Very much so.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Huh.
Guest Speaker
Shout out to him.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Omar Dorsey, man, up and coming. Very talented hip hop artists. Yeah. Akim ali and then OG creator.
Guest Speaker
Just OG just been in the game 10 plus years.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Been in this thing since Vine. Yeah. He was in high school. Getting to the chili, man. Then we got, we got. I think we got for sure another guest on 15. Possibility of a guest next week, but can't give it to you like that. Yeah, man, it's been, this has been a time, man.
Guest Speaker
It's been, you know, but now we came to give them what they love.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, man. Trump 2025, man, is Trump's America. He's back.
Guest Speaker
He's back, baby.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Agent Orange is back. Y'all thought Project 2025 was a game and said day one. I want to say this. We can start with Snoop Nelly, Rick Ross. A lot of coon activity, La La in the streets. But then again, when I think about Nelly and Soulja Boy, I think they needed some money.
Guest Speaker
I wouldn't say Nelly's pretty checked up.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I don't know.
Guest Speaker
I wouldn't say he needed the money.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Methan steroids is expensive.
Guest Speaker
It is, yeah. Damn.
Big Ice Cup Cat
He just had a baby too. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Guest Speaker
A formula's whooping his ass right now.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Similac.
Guest Speaker
Yeah. Okay. Yeah, the ice pack. Insane.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Because they up in age, so the.
Guest Speaker
Milk not hitting the same.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Now we ain't gonna talk about Ashanti, man. Shout out to Ashanti. Just the idea of kuna, though, like, you know, of course, whenever you get things like this, whenever you have radical racism in office, you're gonna have. You're gonna have your sexual sector of people who are clearly targeted by this regime that are. They're gonna throw their hands up. They. They're gonna try to be defense. Defenseless. Like, I don't want to pose a threat. I'm gonna try to assimilate into this. Right. So When I think about, like, Snoop, Rick Ross and all those guys, I'm thinking, this is money. Yeah, it's cooning, but they're insulated from that. You know what I mean? They don't live in. People's still gonna be excited to see them. We can call them a coon on the Internet all day. They see Snoop Dogg tomorrow, they're gonna be happy to see him. So that the. Our judgment of them is not a part of their reality, but it should be a part of our reality. And we should be mindful and we should be, like, making sure that we're aware of, like, the people that would not only sell themselves out, but sell you out as well, because you're going to start to see a wartime mentality, right? Because there's a lot of pressure that comes along with a very racist regime. There's a lot of pressure that comes along with a fascist regime and niggas just on national TV throwing Nazi salutes. There's a lot of pressure that comes with that, and it poses a threat to people. You know, a lot of people was kind of getting at me, like, oh, well, he. Elam throwing. Elon throwing the Nazi salute. That's not black people's business. I would argue anybody that is making any gesture that has a historical significance in oppression and genocide is always going to affect black people, because we still live on the soil of the country that we dealt with our own holocaust and genocide on. We got to remember Elon and where he's from, his family getting rich off of apartheid South Africa. So this is in his lineage as well. We got to remember Trump and what his lineage is. Father, clans member, father or slum lord. And that's his. His inheritance. And he's just nothing but a businessman, a con man, and a capitalist. And then we start thinking about the 92% of black women who voted in favor of Kamala and 86 of black men, or what was it, 80? Was it 86 or 82?
Guest Speaker
It was like 85.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Somewhere like 86. Yeah. Of black men. And from a standpoint of being let down by other communities, I understand, but I don't think truly black people are ever going to be quiet when we see oppression. I think our natural impulse is to be radical against oppression, and I think that that's a great thing. If you don't want to be in a position, if you're not in the coalition mindset, I'm not going to fight anybody else's fight mindset, then that is a part of you disengaging from politics. Now, when J. Edgar Hoover took down the Panthers, the end goal was for black people, especially young black people, to disengage from politics. This is not a time where we're going to be able to rest at all, but you can pivot. Now, I understand not wanting to be in coalition with people who clearly have voted against their own interest. And honestly, we don't talk about Latino people and the that goes on today community enough. Not only just anti blackness, just they got their own. Yeah, but anti blackness is a big part of it. And another thing that comes along with that is that they're, they're clearly here to follow in that model minority mindset where they're trying to assimilate. So even if they came over here legally, even if you have birthright citizenship, if he strips that away, it was all for not. And it's easy, it's easy to vote against your own interest when you, when you don't think that you're the target, you think that you've assimilated not only in your mind, but you think that because I think like them, they see me as one of them. Clearly not, absolutely not, that is, could you couldn't be further from the truth. But it's, it, it's fun, it's fair. When, when we want to try to dismantle systems that black people fought for, like affirmative action. And we think, oh, black people are benefiting from this, okay, let's dismantle that only for it to harm you. Because white people will let you do their bidding. Trust me. Because they know what it, they know what it looked like coming from their mouth. They know the intention on their behalf is always racism, white supremacy. So they already know I have no good reason to do away with affirmative action besides the fact that I'm racist and I'm a white supremacist. They know that. But if this Asian. Yeah, yeah, but you do that dirty work whole time. Is white women benefiting the most from affirmative action? And now the Asians aren't being enrolled, man. And black women are still the most educated by race and gender in the country. So you yourself, same thing we could say about Latinos for Trump.
Guest Speaker
Stupidest ever heard in my life.
Big Ice Cup Cat
First of all, ain't asking for that MAGA hat. They asking for papers. And they might not even ask for.
Guest Speaker
Them just coming around you up is insane.
Big Ice Cup Cat
They might just, they might pop out, say, let me grind. See, see how you react. You get them, get them to the 92%, to the black community in general. We we can't quote our leaders. We can't quote those who came before us. And I love y'all, and I. And I'm always gonna have your back. And I understand the mentality, and I understand being let down, and I understand the blow that it takes to you emotionally because you're smart enough. You know, you come from the lineage of this, right? We come from this. We understand what these systems are, why they are, how hard and how many lives had to be sacrificed just for we to prop up all these things to benefit us and benefit others and. And it be a thankless job. And people always try to overlook, undermine us while trying to steal our culture, while trying to identify with our culture, but hate the people. And it's a thankless job. But we know. We have the foresight to know. I know where this is going. There ain't no you. You. Why would I vote for a nigga? I know where it's going. Are you. You know, when you have a. When you have a person with a dictator mindset, you better believe them. When they say what they gonna do, you're gonna have to believe them. You know, some don't believe stank. So the thing is to. To my black people, is that we can't allow situations like this to defeat us politically. And we also shouldn't wait for others to turn their back on us, to turn towards each other. We should always have been turned towards each other. Isolation is a dangerous game to play in politics. It's a dangerous game to play under the umbrella of a fascist regime. It's a dangerous game to play. But being black is a dangerous game in itself. Until we are ready for coalition again, until we feel confident, until others have proved to us that they're ready for coalition and not a coalition where they take the front seat and we do all the work in the back. Not where we. The loudest voices and they the one benefiting and lining their pockets. And then as soon as they line their pockets, they throw us under the bus. Not that type of coalition. I'm talking about real coalition. Until others prove to us, then I think it's valid that you will take a back seat to allyship. Right. But I'm never openly supporting the mass deportation of the Latino people because just like we got coons and they don't represent us, they got coons too. Regardless of how I feel about people that vote against their own interests, there's going to be children that are affected by this. They're going up into schools to get these kids. There's hard working people that are going to be affected by this, that don't share those same politics. And who's going to bear the brunt of that? Poor people in general. Where are you going to get your produce if ain't nobody picking it? What's gonna happen to the housing market when they stop building? Because the only reason that a lot of these things are propped up is because they keep building. They keep getting loans, they keep building. And no matter what they say about the housing market, somebody keep moving into the right. And that's, that's what I do for a job every day. I see it. So you gotta understand it's gonna trickle down. Then you, you paying, you paying 15 for a bag of apples. Because who gonna do the job? Can't go to the restaurant no more because the whole back house of the restaurant industry is, is Hispanic people, Latino people. Who's gonna pick the fruit? Because that's, that's the backbone of America's produce. A backbone of America's farming is, is immigrant people. They're trying to put the squeeze on you. And they, they, come on, man, when you got money, you got time. When you got power, you got time. You ain't reacting, you're planning what. I've said it before, I say it again. They operate just like any other three letter organizations. They got good psychologists on the payroll. They got good sociologists on the payroll. They got anthropologists on the payroll. They knew how you would react. They knew you would feel it would create mistrust. We've already been saying it online. You don't think they're on there too? They're watching the conversations leading up to this. They're watching black women specifically be tired of helping everybody. They're watching black men fall in line with black women and say, all right, well y'all say fuck them. Fuck them. And it's not wrong to say them. I'm just saying they knew how you would react. And it's very short sighted because what you gonna do? How you gonna eat you. Hey, look, I know black people ain't getting back in the field. You know for sure ain't no white people going out though. So who gonna do the jobs? We gonna import everything.
Guest Speaker
Crazy.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We're gonna import everything. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. The burger gonna be 30. It's gonna look like a window shopper video. You remember the window shopper video?
Guest Speaker
Yeah, absolutely.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Top feels so much better than the bottom. 100 cheeseburger. Who's gonna cut the meat? There's. See, there's a lot of moving parts to these things than your feelings. But take your feelings, compartmentalize them, and understand that underneath the fascist regime or regime. This ain't the time to rest. You're gonna rest now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hey. James Baldwin died in a fight for the liberation of black people. Fred Hampton died in the fight for the liberation of black people. Martin died. Malcolm died. Patrice Lumumba. Plenty of people. Harriet Tubman. Whole life's work, liberation of black people. If you really about this, then it's life's work. It can't. And, And. And you don't think they felt defeated at times, Was getting locked up. They was watching their friends be assassinated. Assada Shakur had to flee the country after watching. Go look at the move group. They watch their babies get bombed. They still talk the same talk to this day. Because it's life's work. If the goal is liberation of black people, then until black people are liberated, jobs not done. I understand. I understand the aspect of rest. They didn't rest. You don't get. You don't get dei, you don't get affirmative action. You don't get civil rights from rest. And they was up against much worse than us. We up against online was outside. This was getting. Getting the brakes beat off on the Selma bridge, getting hosed down, getting dogs suck on, stuck on them. And we talking about resting. Cause ain't vote how we wanted them to. Okay, well, that's fine. But understand you falling in line with J. Edgar Hoover's plan to disengage politically. If we are going to engage in our politics, we have to have our own politics. And we have to turn towards each other. And we can't wait until others turn their back on us to turn towards each other. The turn should always be towards each other. Hillman Talk. Hillman. Tick Tock University. That's how you do it. That's how you do it. Teach each other. If they want to ban books, we're going to teach each other. Use those degrees. You might not be able to use it in your walking life, but guess what? You got their phone right here. Ain't nothing stopping you from educating. You've been a student before. You could be a teacher. That's what this whole thing is dead. We trying to free the young. We're trying to show love to our sisters. I mean, this is. This is a podcast for all black people, no matter sexual orientation, no matter how you identify. This is for you, too. All from the youngest to the oldest. And this is how we gonna Kick it. Yeah. We. We having a guest. We expanding the brand. The brand is strong. Brandy strong. The brand Brawlick. Somebody gotta have a brawl brand. We ain't got diesel marrow no more. Somebody gotta be the bodega boys.
Guest Speaker
You got the untan Big cat.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Come get you some grits and eggs. Yeah. This is life's work, man. And cooning. I mean, come on, man.
Guest Speaker
I mean, we talked about it last time. It's just a form of survival.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It's a form of survival. Listen, was making plans to get off the plantation and went told. So of course, Snoop Dogg smoked out ass up there on the stage dropping it like it's hot. What song you think Nelly did? Think he did hot in here.
Guest Speaker
You know he did hide in here.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. He had to, huh? Yeah.
Guest Speaker
That's it.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. This is. This is dark. This is not a good joke, okay? Nelly, get on stage, perform Ei.
Guest Speaker
Yo, that's wicked.
Big Ice Cup Cat
The in Iceland East Ice theme song right there.
Guest Speaker
They play it on the loudspeaker when they coming through.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Underlay, underlay. Mama er er, what's popping tonight Know they coming having EI play playing. Ei, hey, yo, you gotta wait a minute now. Uh. Oh, hearing that come down the block. Nah, Deportation isn't funny. No, it's not. I myself stand in solidarity with any marginalized group being oppressed. But I'm gonna stay with my black folks. First.
Guest Speaker
I just want to say this to the Latin community. Just because you got the fair skin and the straight hair didn't work in your favor. Sorry.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You ain't no Anglo sax. You ain't no Anglo Saxon. I see right through you. Huh? Now you want to sit here and assimilate into whiteness? Let me bring the mariachi band out. If a nigga starts shaking their heads, you go. You go. You over the boy, you gone. If a nigga bring the Moroccans out, how you gonna act?
Guest Speaker
Mm.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I. Y'all got your own. Hey, listen, man. Sometimes. Sometimes it's time for. For said community to hold their community accountable. Because black people. I'm gonna tell you one thing about black people. We don't got no shame. We loud. Everybody know black people problems because black people ain't got no shame about talking about our. Our. We criticize our in public. Y'all keep that low like the white folks. Folks. White people got you thinking black people are thieves and stole a country and people stole a country and people. And then the people they stole, they like, those are thieves. These are sick. This is your king. That's what you Want to be like, you are sick. Black people have always been, like, very vocal. Like, we don't. We. We. Everybody get called out. Everybody. Things like that work to our advantage and our disadvantage. Right? We air out all our business. Everybody judges us, but we judge ourselves. I mean, everything we do is extremely transparent. And I get it. There. There needs to be playing it offline. Understand your history. The don't be fearful of your history, but you understand it. Every time we build something up, every time we operate in private, they send an agent in. How after all these times of seeing this thing sometimes just be like it. I'm just gonna put it all out there. They gonna come get me. They gonna come get me. Now is not the time to live. Live in fear. I don't. I don't. If I hear a. I say we need the young. Oh, oh. All they want to do is shut. Shut your ass up. Shut up. Shut up. All these young want to do is kill each other. Did you see? Go look at the murder rate in 94. Go look at what your dad was up to. We always want to pass the buck down to that. That didn't create the play. All is in doing these young is inheriting bad behavior, bad mindsets from you, and then you blame them. We lacking accountability. Our OGs need to be talked to. Stopping a on his way to school, putting a pack in his hand, putting a gun in his hand, and then say, holy sh. Wow. They don't even fight. You put the gun in his hand. He learned the behavior from you. We need accountability. If every time somebody mentioned something positive, your first mentality is what can go wrong. You got to get the on. Yeah, you. You part at 8%, you part at 14%. Collectively, you part 22. We can call these the 22s. 22s with your defeatist mindset. Every time we build something, they burn it. There ain't no point get the on. Don't with 22s to 22. She get room 222 magnum, got the.22 I touch. Work like I'm convertible. Burke ass on stage performing every day on hustling.
Guest Speaker
No, you are for Trump.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Don't with 22s. Magnum call me 22. She in room two 22 with you. 22s. Don't fuck with you. Y'all go do y'all thing. Y'all go do your thing. Cause hey, hey, man. Hey, man. Tokens get spent, baby, every time. What's the nigga name? Vivek Ramaswamy. Not learning. Look, nigga, if you can't say Keisha. If you can't. If you can't say Shaquisha. Right? If you can't say Shaquita. Fuck, nigga, I ain't learning your name, nigga.
Guest Speaker
Exactly.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I like chicken ticking masala, too. They can kick your ass right up out of there. I'm here. Right up out of there. Yeah. Appreciate all your hard work, brother.
Guest Speaker
Pack them up.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Pack them up. Take you in that up ass hairline and get the out on tv talking big about black people. Vivec. Yeah.
Guest Speaker
Look at you now.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Look at you now. Throw him a bag of rupee. Rupees? What? The currency is rupees? Yeah. You're like Judas. Yeah. Get the out.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Tell that African booty scratcher Elon to go back to Africa. Man, I'm tired of this. Autistic.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I'm tired of every time a brilliant make a billion dollars, he brilliant. Throw up the Nazi salute. Now he autistic. I don't want to hear that. Let me tell you something about autism, especially the. The spice, the specific spice of Aspergers that my son has. They have an understanding from very young age. They not like everybody else. So before they bring something to the world, they practice it incessantly. So he's thrown that up a thousand times before. We saw it twice on tv. He's been practicing. He's been playing it over and over and over and over. And he been in the mirror with it, talking about it's a Roman. That ain't Roman. Roman where, bitch, do this look like Rome? Why, nigga? Throwing up a Roman salute in America? Nigga, Are you not entertained? Are you not entertained? Fuck this nigga think he the gladiator. Is this not why you a head failure?
Guest Speaker
Failure.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Fighting on tv, Fighting on tv, acting like Cersei.
Guest Speaker
Nigga.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Think he John Snow ain't wrong. We ain't in Rome talking about winning. Wrong. Just use anything. Roman salute.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, eat you a Caesar salad, man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
What's that one movie called, man?
Guest Speaker
Which movie?
Big Ice Cup Cat
American History X. Oh, yeah. You can't tell me it was a Roman salute. I. I watched it.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Watch some curb stomp a out. See, not trying to fool me. Trying to fool. Trying to gaslight. I got the evidence right here. You telling me it's a Roman salute?
Guest Speaker
Never seen a Roman.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Never? Never. I don't even know no romans.
Guest Speaker
I watched 300.
Big Ice Cup Cat
They didn't do that speared up. That ain't built like the Spartans, huh? You see a six pack on that? You seen that body? That ain't no Spartan Talking about a Roman salute like a. Ain't never seen American History X.
Guest Speaker
Like we haven't been here.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh, God. Then they got a little weird in Tennessee. He throwing up. He throwing up the Roman salute. Yeah. That nigga's a gooner. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking. That boy. They'll be on Reddit. Bad, bad. He be on 4chan. All that type got him shout out. Tariq, Nasheed. This thing ain't no foundational black American. Look at his nose. That's what the Tariq machine said. That's what the Tariq machine said. Called the tether. Tether's insane. No, they'd be tripping with that. They'd be wilding out with the word play.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Calling a tether. I don't even know what that means. For real.
Guest Speaker
You never seen us, Jordan Peele.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That's where they pulling that from. Yeah, that is wild.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I never put the two and two together.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Damn. Calling a tether. Same from the underworld.
Guest Speaker
He look like you, but he's not you. He's identical, but he's identical, but it ain't you. They eat rabbits.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Eat rabbits all day. Eating a rabbit raw. Crazy work. That's a blood sacrifice or something. Sacrament. Yeah. Trying to get right with God.
Guest Speaker
Eat the rabbit. They didn't have lambs.
Big Ice Cup Cat
They had rabbits. No, no, no. We doing the knowledge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't with the 22s, man. 222. Don't with it. I think that we have to divert our attention away from people that don't align. Like, you know, I'm critical, too. We just can't spend a lot of time on it. Can you hear that? Yeah, I hear now. All right. I think if we. Instead of making a plan to react, we need to make a plan of defense. I think people are doing work. People are planning. People are getting distracted by reacting. There should be no surprises. There should be no outrage. Go look at your history. They used to eat us. Gnats, grease. That's a real thing. Yeah. It wasn't just enough to. To hang them, to kill him in front of, you know, his family, in front of the rest of the enslaved people on the plantation. No, they, they, they, they, they. They ate him literally. Cannibalism. There should be no surprises. We. We will sit here and talk about educated. We'll talk about all these things we know and then see Elon do that and be outraged. I'm not outraged. That was part for course. I'm kind of where that was headed anyway. The Outrage should be at what's to come. And calling that out, I'm not arguing with, I'm not arguing with. About whether it was or whether it wasn't. That, that, that, that conversation, that ain't even no conversation to have for real. Whether it was or whether it wasn't. That ain't even nothing to talk about. The conversation need to be from react being reactionary to defense. That's one thing we have yet to really. I mean, since the Panthers, we haven't had a defense plan. You need to be ready to, to defend yourself. If they trying to undo all of these, these, these, the efforts that were put in by our ancestors to give us civil rights, to make sure that we were included. Dei, affirmative action, all these things. Ban another books banning our black history, then it's time for us to teach our own black history. And, and the time was always for us to do that. Let our enemy educate us. That's. It's crazy. You don't get this podcast if I'm not educating myself. They didn't teach this in school. You gotta go discover it. Yeah, it's not convenient. It's not gonna be convenient to go find if, if the corporation says, okay, yeah, we rolling back on diversity hires. Basically telling you, damn, we ain't gotta hire, need not apply. Huh? It wasn't that long ago the, the handsome black guy you see drinking out of the whites only fountain, he's still alive. It wasn't that long ago our back should have never been turned. And facing nobody else looking for their hands, we should always been locking hands with each other. The only time if, if we don't do it now, when are we going to stop being scared? Why not now? You're going to wait to stop living in fear. You're going to wait to have action. You're going to wait to build community. You wait for somebody else. You wait on a leader. Why not just do it yourself? Why not take on the leadership yourself? Niggas waiting on leaders and then watch them get killed and do nothing. You don't go get no back and blood. You go fucking protest. And then everything they fought to build up, you just let it go to the wayside. You don't pick up, you don't pick up the baton. No, no more of that. If we want to go and look back on the history and look at the atrocities being done and not look at the places where we dropped the ball along the way, then we doing this for nothing. Because we're going to repeat the same cycles over and Over. We tried to tell the Hispanic people, hey, they did it to us first. They coming for y'all next. They didn't listen. And if they coming for them first of all, black people ain't never next. Black people have always been the now first ballot. We always was first round draft pick for oppression on this land right here. Where are we gonna put the toxic waste at man projects over there? Plenty. Plenty of room back there. Chemical warfare crack. Then, then we'll. Then we'll throw a little bit of oxycontin in these white community, really get our money up and corporate be able to got to wash that. That's big. That's a big farmer.
Guest Speaker
It's a box.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That's a boxing. Huh? I'm gonna tell Future to wrap his. Wrap his car in it. Got on lead now get them off of it. No, the plan. The plan should be defense and the plan should be education. The plan should be togetherness. The plan should be community. Amplify your voice. Do the knowledge. Do it. Hillman Talk University is. Is wide open. Go get on there. Learn. Listen, I also like when somebody really in a bag. Your opinion don't matter. That. That's the. The. That's the downfall of social media is that we ain't listening. We lit. We. We want to hear one thing we disagree with just so we can get in the comments and call that out. Listen, stop being ideological. If the. If the. If the. If the man or woman speaking end goal is the liberation of black people, then something they have to say is valid. If that's their end goal, their ideology aside, if the end goal is the liberation of black people, that's something I want to hear about. I'm smart enough to know what I'm not taking with me. You know, you don't take nothing. You don't take everything from anybody. But the truth is the truth. Stop falling in love with the messenger. Listen to the message. Because people will let you down always. I guarantee you. Throughout the course of this podcast, I done said something y'all didn't agree with. I'm pretty sure people unfollowed me for some of my opinions felt let down. Maybe not publicly, maybe not enough for me to cancel. I'm a person, too. I'm gonna let you down. But what's the message about and what's the end goal? The end goal is the liberation of black people. And once we do liberate black people, that's where this work starts. Because look, all these advancements and look, one man with one regime on a Quest for power and dictatorship is trying to undo all of that. Putting tariffs on other countries. Now, that's all. That's all negotiation tactic as well. So let's just keep it real about that. That's. That's. If it. If it's getting us scared, how you think they feeling? But they're trying to put the squeeze on you, man. They don't want you to ever advance financially. They want all the money for themselves. Somebody said the other day, meta maga. Maga is meta Apple, Google. Hold on. Meta Amazon, Google, Apple. And then look who he got up there with him. Who? The Google.
Guest Speaker
Yeah. We need to. Yeah, yeah. Look him in for sure.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That. Keeping it low. That low? Yeah, he's low. No, he ain't trying to be famous. Yeah. Censorship. Hey, look, be mindful of what you say on the Internet. But also, is. Is now the time to give a. Because they was always watching. I wouldn't. Now, I've seen a young lady get online and make a direct threat at Donald Trump. I don't. I don't suggest you do that. You can talk about them. You threaten violence. You just want them people to come see you.
Guest Speaker
I just want to say one thing, man. You know, like, back in the day, I don't even think they have, like, grandmothers are giving this talk no more. You know, back when we was coming up and before us, they always told us we had to read a little bit longer, study a little bit longer, jump a little higher, run a little faster. That was always taught to us. Right. So don't let this thing of DEI and they revoking it and all that scare y'all, because they can't do nothing without us. No, this country was built by us.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. And it was built. It was. And the systems are built to oppress us, specifically.
Guest Speaker
Yeah. But what I'm saying is we got to get back. Got to get back to the roots of this, you know? Black women doing it.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
They educated.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
My brothers get on them books, man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. And you don't get on stage and. And sing. Every day, I'm hustling in front of the clan. Right. You don't do that.
Guest Speaker
Right.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Because you know better. You have a value for yourself.
Guest Speaker
Take education serious, man. Learn how to do stuff. H vac, plumbing, mechanic work. They took all this stuff out of schools, and you see how they left our community. Right. But there's people out here that know how to do that stuff. And we need y'all to come back to the community and teach the Y ends, bro.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Give them skills.
Guest Speaker
I ain't gonna say why teach the young brothers, man. Yeah, because y'all holding knowledge of what y'all learned, but y'all ain't passing it down. And y'all wondering why they acting the way they acting. So it's time for us to be community, man. It's 1960 again. You just woke up in 1960.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
Let's have each other's back, man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Black men are going to have to get to a place where we put more value in our minds than we do our pockets in our dicks or. Because all we talk about is our pockets and our dicks. But we need minds and hearts, bro. Who gonna protect the babies? Who gonna protect the women? Who gonna protect your brother if it's. If it ain't you cool with women. Love women when it come to your dick, but they not in your heart. They're not on your mind. Love everybody when it come to your pockets, but we're not on your heart. We're not on your mind. We got to place more value in our minds and our hearts than we do our pockets and our dicks. Ain't no nothing to be scared of. Also like the mentality we. We come from, bro. We survived, bruh.
Guest Speaker
Send your DNA.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It's in your DNA. They can't do nothing with you. You hard to kill. You hard to kill, bro. They've been trying, and we never stopped being the polls. With a backbone of this country, with a heart of this country. We are the country. This is our. And we could do more to entertain. And we have to let go. We have to let go. Go do the work. Go do the work of healing. I understand that the community wasn't fair to you because you was different. Did you think they love you? No. This is all intentional. They want you to be different so they can segregate you so you can't help or. Or have any willingness to in the first group. Because they treated me bad, because I was different. These is conditions, dog. Condition. You're part of the condition. And you go cozy up with the niggas who created the conditions. Go have children with the people that created the conditions. Raise up children. Who gonna reinforce the conditions. If. If we don't stop the mindset now, if we don't. If we don't crack the crack, the crack era is over. So the hustler mentality is over. We got to get back to a community mentality. Get some money, but. Yeah, but get it the right way. Ain't tired of going to jail. It Used to be a time where you didn't have to be doing nothing. They'll lock you up now. Doing everything to get locked up. And I don't blame you. It's a condition. But God protect babies and fools. So if you listening, you ain't no fool no more and you damn sure ain't no baby. Do better. Don't be afraid to amplify your voice. Don't be afraid to fight back. I don't want to see no more recordings of. Of nobody being called a. Put that phone up and put. And put them people on their ass. Put that phone up, man. Because just because you recorded don't mean you ain't got to live with the shame. You recorded it. Yeah, everybody gonna shame them, but you gotta live with it. Them slurs gonna replay in your mind when you lay in bed at night, that fear you felt gonna replay in your heart. Put the phone down and put them people on their ass, man. Stop being scared of guns. Naca. And is it. Is it naca? What is it? The National. The African American Gun Association. The African American Gun Association.
Guest Speaker
I'm not familiar. Familiar with.
Big Ice Cup Cat
There's an African American Gun Association. Let's do the knowledge, right?
Guest Speaker
Yeah, do the knowledge.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Naga National African American Gun Association. You can go on a website and they show you where we sell guns, where we own gun shops, where we give out instructions on how to handle your weapon. Take the classes, man. Know how to protect yourself. If you was in the military, use with. Go be the spook who sat by the door. Use the skill sets. You own a plumbing company, you own a trucking company. Don't. How. How we we wonder why young only look up to pimps and drug dealers. But that's what we leave them with.
Guest Speaker
They was there, they was there.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Ain't no doctor in the neighborhood. I understand. Okay, I understand. If it's the crack era, I don't want to be around that shit either. But it ain't. That cracker is over. We got to go back. We gotta go back. That's our future. If you've already changed the direction of your life, that means you got the power to change the direction of somebody else's life because somebody sparked your mind. All you got to do is spark the mind. Don't worry about what some old preaching, who cares, you know? I mean, you know how many times from time from I was in jail was calling me Deacon Kyle because I got something good to say. Like, bro, we don't have to think like this. And I'm still Getting locked up because I hadn't really crossed all the way over there. Here come Deacon Kyle. Here come Deacon Kyle with the good word. But you know what? One thing I can say, I ain't let it discourage me because listened. They would listen to me. We was in there. Like, I would be the. You know, I would be the radio. And too. Because don't know lyrics. Like, I know. But then I was like, hey, let's learn a new word in the dictionary every day while we working out. And we did it and took pride in it because they learning. I'm talking about that got 10, 15 year sentences. They ain't going home no time soon. But education is sparked something in the brain and make you want to know more. It makes you aware that you don't know everything. We gotta look out for each other. You gotta look out for ourselves. Hey, we are not only targeted like we're targeted two ways. Physically, physical violence. And then talking about a Popeyes Don Julio collab like that. That's a death threat. They really did clone Tyrone. They really did it. It was really the chicken. That should be a slap in the face to you, man. Just call me a. Just go. And hey, don't even waste your time. We already made a theme song for Don Julio.
Guest Speaker
On Don Julio all summer.
Big Ice Cup Cat
On Don Julio all summer. I'm guilty. Yeah.
Guest Speaker
Then they put it with the Popeyes.
Big Ice Cup Cat
But just to say just. What Collab? Yeah.
Guest Speaker
What are you doing?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Where are we gonna get that at?
Guest Speaker
And Popeyes can't sell alcohol. They don't have liquor.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That's what I'm trying to say, bro. Like, it's just. They just like, hey, yeah, we know y'all love collabs.
Guest Speaker
The biggest one ever.
Big Ice Cup Cat
What we couldn't. If we would have did. If we. If we said watermelon, it would have been a little too on the nose. But we know you like the liquor done. Next month, free chicken and Don Julio.
Guest Speaker
A shout out. Don Julio with every Popeye.
Big Ice Cup Cat
With every sandwich. You get a two piece, you get two shots, you get a three piece, you get three. There ain't gonna be no ice cream trucks. This is gonna be ice cream. Trouble with chicken liquor Done. Done. Julio. Ain't that. Ain't that cold. Kick out of Mexicans and then give Don Julio. This is going to be a time look. What is the. What. What do you lack? What do you lack? What do you lack? What do you lack? What do you lack? Because the mentality of lack comes from a mindset of lack comes from actions of lack you got to be the man in the garden. Think about that. Somebody receiving like it was very split, 50, 50. A lot of people hate Kendrick, right? But he said, I'm the man in the garden now. I'm not gonna wait for you to give me my flowers. I'm gonna go plant my own flowers. I'm gonna go tend to my own garden. And when I see them bloom, not only do I still have to maintain them, but I'm not gonna pick them. I'mma smell them. This is my labor. I deserve this. I seen these from a seedling to now. Now I'm surrounded by flowers. I don't need you to give me no flowers. I give myself the flowers. You got to know what it feel like to start with nothing. You know how they feel to start with nothing. And there's some things, and there's some things in life you can only learn when you got nothing. But you gotta have a mentality that you're gonna gather some tools along the way. You ever been playing a video game like, like Assassin's Creed, and you don't really got no skills, and you don't really got no weapons like that. And you go back to like the beginning stage when you do get the skills in the web, it's almost not even worth. It's too easy. But you had to start with nothing. You had to have nothing so you could learn. If you would have had the tools, you wouldn't even have known what to do with them. So they would have just gotten away. You gotta, you gotta be willing to climb that mountain. You don't. You don't see the summit, you don't see the peak when you climbing. But there comes a point in your life, we're gonna reach a plateau where you've arrived in a certain space. I can't even go back down, but I can see the peak. So I'm gonna keep going. And I got these tools like I found tools. I know how to climb now. I got the endurance, I got the strength. I'm having ability, you supposed to learn along the way, but you. But as you gather the tools, you gotta learn how to use the tool now. So even. Even when you just learn how to do it with your bare hands. And it's all strength and it's all conditioning, it's all ability. Once you find the tool, you start over. Now I gotta learn how to use this. That. That is the game you want to. Never ending evolvement. You're in a process of evolvement all the time, involving your mind evolving your Physical. If a tell you they got a Don Julio Popeyes collab, you should see that as propaganda. You've. You've been sharpening your mind long enough. Call it out, move on. Don't engage, and don't criticize those that do. That's 22. Gotta start calling 22s, bro. It is what it is. I don't get down with that. And spend all this time gathering your tools just to criticize people without them. No, find other people with tools. Find other people with endurance. You're gonna reach that plateau so you can rest. But how long you gonna rest when you can see the peak?
Guest Speaker
You're not gonna rest.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You're not. You can take a little breather, get you some water. Look around, man. Look how far I've climbed. Like, I know I'm not done. I can see the peak. And you should view that peak as death. We're not gonna stop climbing. If you make it to the mountaintop, it's time to go.
Guest Speaker
You've done what you came to do.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You've done what you came to do. The goal is to make it to the mountaintop or die trying. This is life's work. Think, Nick. James Baldwin wrote a few books and was, ah, these niggas ain't listening. You think that like Dr. Henry, John Henry Clark, like master teacher. It was his life's work. A lot of you ain't hear lectures of him until he was an old man. It was his life's work. Louis Far, Minister Farrakhan. He's still speaking. It's life's work.
Guest Speaker
Can't even stand.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Can't even stand. He's still speaking. It's life's work. We just going to acknowledge the teachers and not become one ourselves. We react to a lot of why. Thinking about their pockets. Oh, yeah. Outrage. A little tick tock. Check the out of here, bro. I made more money off of doing this. Getting in this bag. I don't react. Happened tagging me all day. What's your opinion? I don't got one yet. I like to take my time. I like to think. Y'all like to react. That's why y'all don't get nowhere. You always on defense. Won't even got no offensive coordinator. Spending all day on defense, all day reacting. Who gonna be proactive? You never miss. I think. I think I listen to myself. How do I feel about this? How does it make me feel? What is my knee jerk reaction and why you react? Absence of thought, all emotion. I think that's why I don't Miss, this ain't no. This ain't no crazy formula. I'm not special. I am special. I'm unique in my approach. And you can be too, if you would just take something, but everybody talking about it, so I guess I gotta talk about it too. That's the wrong mentality to have. What mama used to say, everybody jump off a bridge. You gonna jump to lot of bridge jumpers out here. Come one. Come on. Niggas is hopping off of bridges. Niggas is hopping off of bridges with no parachute while supplies last. They selling Popeyes and Don Julio right down there in tandem. It's a collab. Let's get off the bullshit. Let's start building. There ain't no excuse. There ain't no tomorrow. You've observed, you reacted, you felt no more outrage. No more. Nothing is surprising. It's not surprising. There is no shock. There is no awe. They used to eat you. Now they just want to take your rights. The right your ancestors fought for. It's time to be on. The only defense you need to be playing is real defense, a planned defense. And offense has to be in the mind.
Guest Speaker
Don't be scared to die.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It's gonna happen either way. Ago you. You engage in Don Julio on Popeye, it's gonna happen soon. Is out here is slowly killing themselves with the food for content. It's not a good look, man. We. We gotta stop doing that. Damn, I like food too. I ain't stacking up meals on the Internet for to. Nah, I mean, who who we gonna fight? We so damn out of shape. Who we who now? What's the fight gonna be? 10 seconds.
Guest Speaker
Diabetic like a diabetic.
Big Ice Cup Cat
High blood pressure. Overweight like a. I ain't ran.
Guest Speaker
They ain't did nothing.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Been sitting down, scrolling. We all guilty. We're all guilty. I ain't. I ain't in impeccable shape.
Guest Speaker
Damn sure ain't.
Big Ice Cup Cat
But the time is now. You like video games. Understand the progression of life. In contrast to a video game, you start with nothing. So if you. If you have nothing now, then you want level one. Nobody likes to stay on level one. The excitement is what's coming next. You're gonna keep watching the same old storyline, same old non playable characters, same old mission that you keep failing because you don't realize you playing the game. Lock the fuck in. Love you. Let's get into some of these emails and submissions. Ooh. Top five, top five, top five, top five,. Top five, top five coons of all time. Run down the list.
Guest Speaker
Top five cones of all time.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It's crazy. Oh, Dr. Umar, ask question.
Guest Speaker
He has five.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh, he got a five.
Guest Speaker
He has ten.
Big Ice Cup Cat
He got a Mount Rushmore. Just a Mount Rushmore. Coons.
Guest Speaker
Yo.
Big Ice Cup Cat
First off, I just want to show love to y'all. Your recent talks about addiction and how it affects more than just a person who is addicted, but it also hits the people who are around them. Being a daughter whose mom is an alcoholic and drug addict, it really hit home from me for many reasons. And I just want to say thank you for speaking on it and sharing your story. Now let me get into this bum ass. In short, I'm 30, I'm a single mom of twins. I have custody, my 15 and 18 year old brothers. My 18 year old brother is drop out of school, cannot keep a job. Does not seem to have motivation like literally this does not want to do anything. He just wants to smoke and be in the house with his friends. How do I stop this bum behavior? A little. Oh, okay. A little background on him. He came to me at 14. He is my brother on my dad's side and was living with a family member who died and no one wanted to take him in, so I did. He could barely do math or read, so I quickly knew that school was not going to be the path for him. I let him know that I was, that was okay. And there are other education options. He is now 18 and having a very hard time stepping into adulthood. Meaning he just wants to sit in the house, smoke and sleep. What are things that I can do to help put it, to help him put it in gear and stop being a bum. There's a lot more I could say to explain, but there's no need because I don't want him to have any excuses. Him being 18. The only thing I require staying with me is for him to have a full time job and they can get a man in his life. A very unfortunate set of circumstances that he's coming from. But life really gonna have to kick him in the ass for him like get up because there he's a, he's, he's, he. His. His circumstances are inconsequential. Out of empathy, you're not gonna kick him out, right? Because I mean all he been doing is bouncing around. Right, right. The mentality of wanting to do nothing is a hard mentality to break because it could be rooted in depression. Sometimes what we view as pure laziness is depression. We having a high expectation of an 18 year old right now who's not very educated smoking all his problems away and being a shut in basically. And I understand that that is frustrating. But am man is dealing with a lot more than just like not wanting to work. But he needs motion. Object emotion stays in motion. Suggest small things. And if you have an uncle or a cousin or somebody who you know is a significant male figure in his life, encourage them to reach out to him. Encourage them to, you know, if they got a landscaping business, just like he gonna have to be put to work. See, the thing is I've been working so like summertimes. I used to have a landscaping job. I know I was. No, you know, I used to work for a Murphy.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, I know.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, yeah, you do. Man, you God damn. Sometimes I'll be forgetting like how long we've known each other.
Guest Speaker
I've been here for a while.
Big Ice Cup Cat
One thing I've always done was be active. You know, even. Even when I was like quote unquote bum. I was like at least selling drugs, trying to make something happen, you know, I mean. And I still was like detailing cars and like that. I was having odd jobs. But I was never just a sitting in the house smoking that. No, I was never really the big. Staying in the house, playing a video game, man. I was. I like to be outside shut in behavior is 9 times out of 10 he's dealing with some type of depression. Some.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, something's wrong.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I mean because then his last caretaker died and then nobody wanted him. That is affecting that young man's mind. You don't think he knows the feeling of being unwanted? So he's trying to find his place in the world. There's a lot of pressure to put on the 18. Have some grace. Be mindful that 18 is not really an adult. He just legally an adult. He ain't adult in the mind. And then he's also lacking severely in education.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
So he has a long road ahead anyway.
Guest Speaker
I think small goals like you said, give him six months. Give. Get his ged, let him get his g. Say it was a dropout.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
Let him get his ged. Make that a goal. Set that as a, you know, get a vision board for him or write his goals out.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We need to find something like. Exactly. Yeah, he needs to see what he wants to do. But also like we need some trade advocacy here. Yeah, these are the. Unfortunately, no, actually, fortunately, people that. That don't take a whole bunch of that don't put a lot of stock in education are great tradesmen. I knew I wasn't going to college when I was in high school. I was just like, yeah. I remember my counselor was like, so what are we doing? I was like, I'm just graduating because my mama asked me to.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
My mama said, I don't care what you do. I, I you on the path of dropping out or being kicked out. I just want you to get your diploma. I want to see my son walk across stage. And I did that. Next time I went to school was to get the CDL. And we talking about 10 years later. So Trey advocacy may be a path. Hard work, something he young, you know.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Doing something with his hands, getting his body moving. He may not like it at first because he got that lazy bone in him, but he'll take pride in it soon enough. But let's start with small goals.
Guest Speaker
Yeah. Let's get that GED first because he ain't gonna be able to do nothing without.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He gonna need that G. Yeah. So let's make a six month plan to get him his ged and then that'll be an accomplishment for him. And once you, once you start, once you see the ball going in that.
Guest Speaker
Yeah. And when he gets it, celebrate that. Celebrate him.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yes, absolutely. Don't just let it be like, don't, don't let it just fly under the radar. Like, take him out. Yeah. Celebrate him.
Guest Speaker
Have a party for him. Anything.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Anything.
Guest Speaker
He accomplished something big.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Right.
Guest Speaker
He keeps going after that. He's like, okay.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Right.
Guest Speaker
I feel wanted. They proud of my accomplishments. Let's keep going.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Because he's looking for love.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
And he's looking to know that he's wanted somewhere. And I understand what you're saying, but like the subject is, my brother is a bum. So if you view him like that, then you treat him like that. And you're frustrated because you're older and you frustrated because you had to take him in. And I don't think what you're doing is easy. It's very commendable. I think you should give yourself credit for that and not look at it as much as a burden. You've been bestowed with a responsibility and you took on a responsibility because you're the right person for the job. You're the only person that stepped up. Remember that. But he also don't owe you nothing. He's a kid when you decide to take some money and you decide to take everything that comes with it. He was a kid and his last caretaker died and he knew nobody else wanted him. So he may be grateful, but he's also 18, poorly educated, and likely depressed. And I'm I'm almost certain you've called him a bum. He has no direction. So make a plan for a small goal. Get a GED and do it with love and do it with empathy. And if you've ever said anything harsh to him, apologize. He needs to feel loved. I don't excuse his behavior, but I'm just saying there could be a different perspective to this. Expecting young people to have the world figured out when they didn't have a solid foundation to begin with. A little harsh. But what you're doing is also commendable, and we appreciate you for reaching out. Hey, love the part. I have two questions. My name is blank. I'm 26. I'm working on my own pod, and I ran into a problem of not knowing what camera to use. Could you shed some light on recommendations? I'm starting on a budget, and I plan to upgrade later. So we started with the Canon eos, and I believe my camera is like three years old. It's not a continual shot, so you will have to find you a big cat, get behind the camera, and keep. Keep everything shooting as you do it. Research, research, research. Camera we use here. What's that one called?
Guest Speaker
That's a black magic.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It's a. Yeah, Black magic camera. So make sure you talking about something serious on your podcast, though.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, don't be no. 50, 50.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Me on there being salacious, thinking that's how you're gonna get some money. Because as soon as we see it. I know your name, nigga. This on here trying to sell niggas chicken and balloons. I just seen a nigga named Blake Young on here talking 50, 50. And this gonna ask me what camera to use. Turn the camera off. Second, I'm from Jackson, Mississippi. Okay. Shout out my Jackson man. February 8th. We will be in Jackson, Mississippi. You gone. You finna go drink, you can speak. All right. Yeah, you do. Bring me back something. Bring me back something. Oh, yeah. I am going to damn. Well. Second, I'm from Jackson, Mississippi. Shout out my Jackson, February 8th.
Guest Speaker
Get your tickets from the 601.
Big Ice Cup Cat
601 prime time, way before Dion. I want to try to turn the city around, but at times it's almost impossible. Do you feel like some communities can be lost and too far gone? Well, first of all, turn yourself around. You gotta be an example first. Also, like you, one man, and the problems in that community have existed way before you were born. It's not. It was never your responsibility to turn the city around. That takes a group effort. So find a group. Start small. No Nothing is ever beyond repair.
Guest Speaker
Right? Gotta find people that's like minded, like you.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Because repair starts in the mind. Some people are programmed. Some people are going to stay programmed. So find people with a different programming. Love where you come from. Understand the conditions. Understand the history behind those conditions and how your people ended up in this space in the first place. And be thankful to be an outlier. Be thankful that you exist outside of that mentality. Gotta have grace. You gotta understand that these people, these people are. This is an effect. It's not cause. This is an effect. Find out what the cause was. Educate yourself on the causes so you can have grace for people living in the effects. Good luck on your podcast, good luck advice and music submission. All right, all right. Two for one. Huh? Two for one. What's good? Big fan of your Tick Tock and podcast. You guys encapsulate a lot of things I'm interested in and care about. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Guest Speaker
What's the issue?
Big Ice Cup Cat
We've got a voicemail. Oh, let me see. Just do it like this because I didn't put it on the pad. Let me see. Hey, what's up, Beyonce, Kyle and big ice cubs. I love what you guys are doing with the pod. I just want to jump straight in. So basically, I don't really know what to. I know what to do, but I don't know how to handle this situation. So basically, my mom stole eighteen hundred dollars for me as a counselor. We heard this already.
Guest Speaker
And she go to house.
Big Ice Cup Cat
She stole loan money, so I got to get that money back. She don't got it to give. Give it back to me. She don't. Oh, we did hear this. All right, strike that from. All right. We don't have any voice messages.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, we heard that already.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. All right, well, we'll get back to what we doing. All right, what's up, y'all? Big fan of your Tick Tock and podcast. You guys encapsulate a lot of the things I'm interested in and care about and put them into better words than I could on most occasions. Beginning of the year, I made a SoundCloud account and said it. Why not? This is my first time releasing something and I'm really just having fun with it as well as looking for critiques. So if you give it a listen. Thank you for my advice. I have plenty friends. Primarily black. All my co workers are black. I'm black. I love it. However, my roommates are white women at that. What y'all. This is bunny hopping this. Bunny hopping for rent.
Guest Speaker
Get Dr. Uber on the line.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Depending on the white man to pay your rent. I'm just playing.
Guest Speaker
What the hell was that?
Big Ice Cup Cat
I guess the ice maker. Oh, don't respect that we make getting money in here. Don't respect it. Don't respect that we going to move this operation out the house. I'm just. I'm just. Yeah, I can't hear it.
Guest Speaker
We get ice. We.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We can hear Avalanche. Avalanche. Goddamn ice coming out the refrigerator. You buy the headphones and stuff. All right.
Guest Speaker
Bye bye.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Bye, bye, bye, bye. In sync. Bye, bye, bye. However, my roommates are white women at that. My managers are white. There's been many instances where an argument would start over who knows what an ignorant black friend or co workers or signs with. You're racist. But the whole time they're just wrong and they look at me to defend them by also accusing whoever of being racing racist. How do you disagree with black people in a conversation involving white people or race in general without being seen as a cool. You don't defend white people.
Guest Speaker
What show has he be watching? He loves the pod. Yeah, what show has he.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You've been watching Gris and Eggs. Listen, we protect in public, correct? In private. I don't care if that wrong or not. Call the white people racist. Have a back. And then when y'all get dully boy, man, that weren't racist, bro. You trying to be a good person. That. Because if they have. If they ever find an opportunity to back down your black ass, they gonna take it. And then you gonna be like, damn, this is racist. I don't listen to music that's on SoundCloud. And there's not no disrespect to you. I've been telling that for long. Even on live. If it's on SoundCloud, it ain't good. This ain't. It ain't 2014. No, if the is on SoundCloud, it ain't Good. And it might be good.
Guest Speaker
But it's on SoundCloud.
Big Ice Cup Cat
But it's on SoundCloud. I'll listen to it. Send me a MP3 version to my email. But I ain't going.
Guest Speaker
I. I'm not going to search SoundCloud.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not getting on SoundCloud. All right, defend don't care what they did.
Guest Speaker
No, we care what they did.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We care what they did. But in instances where they wrong and is at work, them white people. Yeah, because if some money come up missing you your black ass. The only One that's on the clock. You think you're gonna start looking at each other? You think they're gonna look at you? You always win that st. All right. This is the worst way by africanal.
D
You died despite the fact I'm chang From all the pain that you cause I realize the day you ain't deserve it at all. The lies that I told, secrets I kept story unfold like that you were a bam at home I'm in the bed knowing I'm gone off in the red I tried to hold it down and be the best that I could I really held on way longer than I should because now I'm asleep now I'm a creep now my places I ain't supposed to be.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Shorty says she in places she ain't supposed to be. Oh, this sounds great.
Guest Speaker
No, she sounds immaculate.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I would say just a lot of air. Yeah, a lot of air. Better mix better master just to bring out more clarity from your voice, which is amazing.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, she sounds good.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Great songwriting. Shorty said I'm in place I ain't supposed to be. You better tighten it up.
Guest Speaker
She talking that she talks she talking, yeah, she talks, she talking, yeah, I.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Said my that huh? You better get it together you better get it right.
D
You don't have to say I know I did you wrong. I tell you the wor was being so thirsty but you in a way to have your feelings hurt. My morals fell apart.
Big Ice Cup Cat
What a shame.
D
How a woman so sweet and loving can turn around and become so vile and strange. I wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it with my own eyes. Believe me, I can see that you're not far from the rest. But it really doesn't justify the pain in your chest. Cuz I want it out but I was alone ain't really ready to be on my own. I'm not cake attitude won't even think about your point of view.
Big Ice Cup Cat
No, she ain't shit either.
Guest Speaker
No, she taking accountability.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, that's real. Yeah, she real.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, she real.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Get that. Get that tag out of there. This is a great song, shorty. Africa and all.
Guest Speaker
Hey, listen, Jay Z told you, you can't turn a bad girl good. But once a good girl's going bad, she's gone forever.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Said she can't even wash it off.
Guest Speaker
That mean she liked it.
Big Ice Cup Cat
All right. One of ten nicks, homie. Sending a track 10k. 10k, Nick, 10k. I forgot you in south carolinian. Like to say like to spell your names weird and this name is J R. Worm.
Guest Speaker
J.R. worm.
Big Ice Cup Cat
J.R. worm. I don't have high expectations of this song, but we gonna. But he said he know 10k next.
Guest Speaker
I was like, hey, let's give him a try.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Let's give him a try. It's crazy.
Guest Speaker
That's.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Wow.
Guest Speaker
That's wicked. I'm sorry.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I appreciate it. Can't even watch that off.
Guest Speaker
I don't like it, though.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Now you want places you ain't supposed to be. Yeah, Clearly. Shout out to Africa. No, man. That was hard. Good try. Worst way. Get that tag out of there. Yeah. Shout out to you, though, for making a good song on a low budget. Hard to do. Hard to do.
Guest Speaker
She did a thing.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. 7.5.
Guest Speaker
Your biggest supporter. Gotta be yourself. Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
What we doing now? Moing routes to my choosing they let it out but not mo moving. I love it.
Guest Speaker
Shout when abusing the power I get.
Big Ice Cup Cat
From seeing Hell no.
Guest Speaker
Hey, listen. He thought he won with the beat.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
I don't like how he.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I like delivery. I'm not even going to listen to that.
Guest Speaker
Just a little bit more.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Just.
Guest Speaker
Just.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Just.
Guest Speaker
Please.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I see the light too.
Guest Speaker
So many nights Used to get a.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Few glimpse of breaking news Worm that spinning image.
Guest Speaker
Go link up with Roots. Y'all get a cdl book and take the test.
Big Ice Cup Cat
All right?
Guest Speaker
Because that wasn't it.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Bro. Go pick out that welder mask now. Huh? Get familiar with pipes.
Guest Speaker
H vac systems.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Yeah. Start looking into heating and air electricity. Yeah. Now build up the community. Get out the booth.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Go do something that's valuable to the community because this ain't your shit.
Guest Speaker
Nah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Nigga. Tried to name drop 10k, nigs.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Junior worm. I already knew he was ass. I already knew he was going to be ass. Because that's a terrible rap name.
Guest Speaker
Junior Worm.
Big Ice Cup Cat
So I'm a German man. That's okay. Like a worm with braids. Yeah. JR Worm. Erase that name from your memory. Whatever your real name is. You start telling that. Right.
Guest Speaker
I just call yourself Junior.
Big Ice Cup Cat
No. Not even. No.
Guest Speaker
Can't call JR.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I don't even care if you're a Junior. Say your father's name. Get real used to seeing it on resumes.
Guest Speaker
For sure.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Huh? It's time for labor. Get out that booth. It. I'm not even being facetious. It doesn't get better. I don't.
Guest Speaker
Let's see.
Big Ice Cup Cat
There's no potential.
Guest Speaker
Let's see.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Am I. Am I not coming across clear? Can you hear me? I hear you.
Guest Speaker
But let's see.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I got a lot of clues.
Guest Speaker
The kid in my Review when he designed to do I keep the knowledge.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Sharp they throw all kind of shards that damn near, bro.
Guest Speaker
My heart's on a part didn't start.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Turn it off, turn it off. Told you. What did he just say? I throw a lot of sharks.
Guest Speaker
I better not do hey, yo, my man, listen.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Nah, get, nah, nah, get. Get that. Get your nose in a book.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
All right. Get out the booth. Get in the book. Get in the manual. Get. Get laborious. My.
Guest Speaker
Damn.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That was ass. We need. We need a goddamn button to say that was ass.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, yeah. We need, we need Net drop.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Was that talking about.
Guest Speaker
No idea, son.
Big Ice Cup Cat
All right, this is Lamar. How it started?
Guest Speaker
Lamar.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Lamar. I don't have high hopes for this E. I hate you names. Yeah, Lamar. It was spelled weird too, like the French or some. Lamar is out here thinking I was like, that's a song. Nah. Is out here thinking they from France. Nah.
Guest Speaker
Mark, it's a pep as a pew.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Nah get you some Popeyes, Don Julie on a beignet and get the out the booth. I already know this is ass.
Guest Speaker
Said a beignet.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I'm not gonna lie, man. We don't got no folks from Jackson this week. Besides my boy from SoundCloud. He might be good though, but I don't.
Guest Speaker
I'm talking about Soundcloud, dude.
Big Ice Cup Cat
He might be.
Guest Speaker
He might be.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Got a good head on his shoulders. I mean, he's from Jackson. That's a plus.
Guest Speaker
That's a plus.
Big Ice Cup Cat
The want to change the whole city.
Guest Speaker
He do.
Big Ice Cup Cat
He probably talking. Send me the downloadable version. My. Yeah, let's listen here. From Lemarque. You're French?
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
You know, I've had like seasons of emotion, so I'm going to see if I can like kind of break it down in this song, you know, make it make sense. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Started as a lazy Never let it faze me I was just letting the days pass by on the daily Now I had to get it up why this anger in me flays past the baton sign the anger now you get me I rap cause I'm spiteful I started cause I'm angry I had to.
Big Ice Cup Cat
On n you definitely rap cause you spiteful you spiteful against people that listen to this. The build up to build up the beat like that and do a drop straight into ass.
Guest Speaker
Just terrible work. Listen, Lamar, Lamar.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I rap cause I'm spiteful Get that hate out your heart and get out the booth.
Guest Speaker
Lamarck.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Hold on, hold on, hold on. What you was going to say?
Guest Speaker
Lamar jr.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Worm Roots.
Guest Speaker
Roots Y'all need a group chat. A CDL book in there and y'all just need to study together.
Big Ice Cup Cat
The name of the group chat got to be get out the booth.
Guest Speaker
Rebuild the community.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Some are supposed to be community workers and want to be rappers.
Guest Speaker
It's not it.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Let's hear some more of this.
Deontay Kyle
Play me, I want to tap on triggers, but my niggas said that ain't me. I want to tap on triggers, but my said that ain't me.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, it's definitely not. You talking about tapping on a trigger, trying to create new gun lingo.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, you can't get the.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Out the booth niggas is coming to America for France trying to tap triggers.
Guest Speaker
I don't think he's from France.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Is trying to convince us they rappers.
Guest Speaker
He's from Quebec.
Big Ice Cup Cat
He's from Quebec. These Canadian is trying to take over the rap game. Lamar. No, no, my. I'm gonna keep it a beam with you, bro. I wouldn't even lie to you. And this is all love. I'm a hater, not a liar. I hate this. This sucks.
Guest Speaker
That's terrible.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You don't have any potential. I don't hear any potential. No, you going to be asked the whole time. Ten years from now, you still going to suck. Get out the boot. We need. We need firemen.
Guest Speaker
We need lawyers. We need doctors.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I would rather you be a cop. Yeah, stop rapping, cuz you spiteful and go crack some heads.
Guest Speaker
Cracks spiteful.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Be a dirty cop. They gonna be a dirty cop.
Guest Speaker
Just a lot of it.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, like really take it out on the community, but don't ruin my good mood. Yeah, cuz you kind of rap, cuz I'm spiteful. What do that even mean? If I was a producer, I would have set the. I would have set the studio on fire while you was in there.
Guest Speaker
You would have dropped the bomb on the studio.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Lamar will never be heard from again. Assassinated that man.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yo, put that microphone down and pick up a wrench.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Pick up a set of pliers. Learn your way around a car. We need mechanics.
Guest Speaker
Yeah. All right.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Put down the mic. Become a mechanic.
Guest Speaker
Go change a tire.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Get good, learn. Get some mechanical aptitude.
Guest Speaker
Then move up the brakes.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
Then the alternator.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I need you to know the metric system of measurements and wrenches. Go, give me a one eight.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Go give me a three fifths. Go, give me a eight. Sixteen.
Guest Speaker
Then work your way up to the transmission.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no. We. Now we dropping motors. Yeah.
Guest Speaker
Now we.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh, now we Getting money.
Guest Speaker
Yeah. Now we getting money.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You could do more on. You could advance further in a mechanic, as a mechanic in a year than you ever will in rap.
Guest Speaker
Learn the computer system. You learn the computer system.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh, we need software engineers. You are in the get familiar with AI.
Guest Speaker
You're in the money.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Get some cyber security going.
Guest Speaker
You ain't got to do the labor.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You don't even got to do it. You could train. You could train about to do it for you. But you got to get the out.
Guest Speaker
That booth to do it and stop being spiteful.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Stop being spiteful.
Guest Speaker
Take you a shot.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Don't rap. Don't. The greatest revenge is success.
Guest Speaker
Be successful.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Be successful. Cuz you ain't going to do it like this. Your haters is winning.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Your haters is up.
Guest Speaker
And they're not lying.
Big Ice Cup Cat
No. And they not lying. Your haters is up 10 right now.
Guest Speaker
Was that it?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Would the beat go off? Nah. Even the song was like, no more.
Guest Speaker
They cut them off.
Big Ice Cup Cat
The person was like, that's time.
Guest Speaker
That's it.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That's time, bro. Yeah. Thank, man. Thank you for the money, man. Thanks for the money, man. That's time. And. And. And just like that, that's been our time. I'm your host, Deontay Kyle. But who's behind the camera?
Guest Speaker
Big ice cup cat.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Don't forget February 8th, live show in Jackson.
Guest Speaker
Vibe studio.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Vibe studio. Get your tickets now. Deontaycow.com While you're there, grab some merch.
Guest Speaker
All right.
Big Ice Cup Cat
657234. Eggs for call ins. We didn't have any call ins this week, but we've been taking guests and probably feel like, oh, they don't do call ins no more. We ain't do the top five.
Guest Speaker
I mean, we. We're back now, so, you know, man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Look, man, we're back. We figuring it out. Yeah, okay. I pod because I'm spiteful.
Guest Speaker
Grist and eggs.
Grits and Eggs Podcast - Episode 48: Don't F%#K w/ 22's
Host: Deontay Kyle
Guest: Big Ice Cup Cat
Release Date: February 2, 2025
In Episode 48 of the Grits and Eggs Podcast, host Deontay Kyle is joined by his longtime collaborator, Big Ice Cup Cat. The episode delves deep into pressing societal issues, particularly focusing on the intersection of race, politics, and community dynamics in modern America. The conversation is raw, unfiltered, and packed with passionate viewpoints, reflecting the podcast's commitment to tackling controversial and significant topics.
Timestamp [04:09] - [08:03]
The discussion opens with a critical analysis of the political climate, specifically addressing the resurgence of Trump in 2025. Big Ice Cup Cat emphasizes the dangers of returning to a "fascist regime," highlighting the implications for marginalized communities, especially Black Americans.
Big Ice Cup Cat [04:15]: "He's back, baby."
Big Ice Cup Cat [04:46]: "Trump 2025, man, is Trump's America. He's back."
The conversation transitions to the impact of political decisions on affirmative action and civil rights. Big Ice Cup Cat argues that dismantling affirmative action policies would disproportionately harm Black women and other minority groups.
Big Ice Cup Cat [07:59]: "They had their own. Yeah, but anti-blackness is a big part of it."
Key Points:
Timestamp [08:03] - [17:10]
Deontay Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat delve into the concept of "coon activity," criticizing African American celebrities who, in their view, betray cultural roots for personal gain. Figures like Snoop Dogg and Rick Ross are scrutinized for their perceived disconnection from the struggles of the Black community.
Big Ice Cup Cat [11:16]: "Stupidest ever heard in my life."
Big Ice Cup Cat [14:17]: "Call it out, move on. Don't engage, and don't criticize those that do. That's 22."
Key Points:
Timestamp [17:10] - [37:54]
The episode emphasizes the importance of education and skill development within the Black community. Deontay Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat discuss ways to empower individuals through trades, mechanics, and other vocational skills as alternatives to traditional education paths.
Big Ice Cup Cat [68:04]: "He may not like it at first because he got that lazy bone in him, but he'll take pride in it soon enough."
Big Ice Cup Cat [84:01]: "Get that nose in a book and get the out."
Key Points:
Timestamp [37:54] - [60:36]
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to critiquing modern cultural trends, especially within the music industry. The hosts express disdain for new rappers and their lyrical content, advocating for a shift towards more constructive and community-oriented expressions.
Big Ice Cup Cat [93:16]: "Don't rap. Don't. The greatest revenge is success."
Big Ice Cup Cat [94:23]: "Be successful. 'Cause you ain't going to do it like this. Your haters are winning."
Key Points:
Timestamp [62:31] - [95:39]
Towards the latter half of the episode, Deontay Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat address listener-submitted questions. Topics range from handling familial responsibilities and addressing youth apathy to technical advice on podcasting equipment.
Notable Quotes:
Big Ice Cup Cat [66:35]: "One thing I've always done was be active. Even when I was like 'bum,' I was at least selling drugs, trying to make something happen."
Guest Speaker [67:55]: "Let him get his GED and then that'll be an accomplishment for him."
Key Points:
Timestamp [95:01] - End
The episode concludes with a promotional segment for an upcoming live show in Jackson, Mississippi, scheduled for February 8th. The hosts encourage listeners to attend, highlighting it as an opportunity to engage further with the Grits and Eggs community.
Big Ice Cup Cat [95:06]: "657234. Eggs for call-ins."
Big Ice Cup Cat [95:14]: "Shout out to you, though, for making a good song on a low budget."
Episode 48 of the Grits and Eggs Podcast serves as a formidable discourse on the challenges facing Black communities amidst a turbulent political and cultural landscape. Through unfiltered conversations, Deontay Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat advocate for education, community solidarity, and authentic representation. The episode not only critiques existing societal issues but also offers actionable advice aimed at fostering resilience and empowerment within the community.
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These quotes encapsulate the episode's critical stance on political and cultural issues, as well as the emphasis on community action and personal responsibility.
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