Episode 51 - GiGi LeFlair aka TT GiGi

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast – Episode 51 Summary: GiGi LeFleur aka TT GiGi

Introduction and Guest Background

In Episode 51 of the Grits and Eggs Podcast, host Deontay Kyle welcomes comedian and social media sensation GiGi LeFleur, also known as TT GiGi. Released on February 17, 2025, this episode delves into GiGi’s journey from TikTok fame to the stages of stand-up comedy, highlighting her authentic Southern roots and her seamless integration into the worlds of comedy and Southern hip-hop culture.

GiGi LaFleur's Journey: From TikTok to Stand-Up Comedy
Timestamp: [02:19-08:13]

GiGi LaFleur opens up about her rapid rise on TikTok, attributing her explosive growth to a nail video shared by influencer Lil Duvall. She explains, “I built it from the ground up,” highlighting her dedication to creating authentic content that resonated with a vast audience. This spike in her online presence paved the way for her transition into stand-up comedy. GiGi recounts her first stand-up experience in 2017 at her aunt’s birthday party and her first paid gig in 2021, opening for Bubba Dub in Columbia, South Carolina. Reflecting on her early days, she shares, “That was probably the best $75 I ever made in my life because you paid me to do something that came natural.”

Authentic Southern Culture and Its Representation
Timestamp: [08:13-21:18]

The conversation shifts to the essence of Southern culture, with GiGi vividly describing everyday Southern scenarios such as “front porch conversations” and family interactions. She emphasizes the importance of authenticity, saying, “We’re having in-house conversations,” to illustrate genuine Southern interactions that resonate deeply with her audience. GiGi and Deontay discuss the significance of car culture in the South, particularly the prevalence of Box Chevys, which symbolize community and identity. GiGi humorously notes, “A box Chevy tells you a lot,” underscoring how these vehicles are integral to Southern social life.

Southern Hip-Hop Evolution and Its Influence
Timestamp: [21:26-43:57]

A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to the evolution of Southern hip-hop and its profound impact on broader culture. GiGi and Deontay explore the contributions of key figures like Lil Jon, Jeezy, Gucci Mane, Rick Ross, and groups such as Three 6 Mafia and Outkast. GiGi remarks, “Zaytoven is a pillar,” highlighting his pivotal role in shaping the Southern hip-hop sound. They discuss how Southern rap incorporates unique elements like alliteration and onomatopoeia, with GiGi asserting, “Southern hip-hop always has that undertone of familiarity to it because the South has that family.”

Fashion Trends in Southern Hip-Hop
Timestamp: [43:16-58:45]

GiGi delves into the distinctive fashion trends that emerged from Southern hip-hop, including Jabot jeans, oversized hats, and elaborate accessories. Recalling the early 2000s, she states, “Jabot jeans took over the south like the plague,” illustrating how these styles became synonymous with Southern identity. The hosts reminisce about the era's bold fashion choices, such as big hats and bedazzled nails, which served both aesthetic and practical purposes, like concealing personal items. GiGi humorously describes the over-the-top outfits, “They were dressed like real estate agents,” highlighting the blend of functionality and flamboyance.

Club Culture and Its Impact
Timestamp: [58:45-84:51]

The discussion transitions to club culture in the South, where GiGi and Deontay critique the shift from authentic interactions to commercialization influenced by drug culture. They analyze how figures like Big Meech and Gucci Mane transformed club scenes, blending opulence with street culture. GiGi laments the loss of “regular people” in VIP sections, equating it to an exclusive underworld where only those with means can partake. She observes, “Now it’s section culture. Your best bet now is just to find a nice bar in the lounge and sit your feet up,” highlighting the alienation caused by exclusivity.

Socioeconomic Commentary: Poverty and Black Experience
Timestamp: [84:51-95:59]

The conversation takes a socio-political turn as GiGi addresses stereotypes surrounding poverty within the Black community. She contends, “Black people have revolutionized poverty and made it look so cool that people think we like it,” emphasizing that poverty is a struggle, not a choice. Both hosts critique societal pressures and systemic barriers that perpetuate poverty, arguing that it’s “expensive to be poor,” and discuss how economic disparity affects cultural expression and personal aspirations. GiGi asserts, “We don’t like it. We just making the best of it,” highlighting resilience amid adversity.

Southern Hip-Hop Producers and Their Contributions
Timestamp: [95:58-115:00]

In a dedicated segment, Deontay and GiGi debate the top influential Southern hip-hop producers, listing names like Zaytoven, Jermaine Dupri, Manny Fresh, For Real, and Timberland. GiGi adds Ricky Pringle and Juicy J to the conversation, emphasizing their pivotal roles in crafting the Southern hip-hop sound. They discuss how these producers blend authenticity with commercial appeal, creating beats that resonate deeply with audiences. GiGi highlights Zaytoven’s underappreciated contributions, stating, “Mouse on the track doesn't get the credit that he deserves,” underscoring the often-overlooked talents behind the music.

Conclusion and Upcoming Shows
Timestamp: [115:00-End]

The episode wraps up with GiGi promoting her upcoming comedy shows across various cities, reinforcing her active presence in the comedy circuit. She details her tour dates, encouraging listeners to attend and support her performances. Deontay and GiGi express mutual appreciation for the engaging discussion, hinting at future episodes where they will continue to explore topics pertinent to Southern culture and hip-hop.

Notable Quotes:

• GiGi LaFleur at [04:29]: “I prefer long gripper, two, three inch bedazzled rhinestone overlay…”
• GiGi LaFleur at [08:46]: “We’re having in-house conversations.”
• GiGi LaFleur at [38:29]: “Jabot jeans took over the south like the plague.”
• GiGi LaFleur at [91:00]: “Black people have revolutionized poverty and made it look so cool that people think we like it.”

This detailed summary captures the essence of Episode 51, highlighting GiGi's personal journey, Southern cultural authenticity, the evolution of Southern hip-hop, and the interplay between fashion and socioeconomic factors in shaping the community’s identity.

Transcript

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah woke up in the morning and.

[Gigi LaFleur]

To God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty south with a dirty mouth my knee orbit miss things things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my no rest fusion gorgeous as I doubt my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead tell them we gonna get this money to my pockets more bit remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't gotta like a regardless baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me we like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee flick your.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cigarette and let a van yeah, we back oh we back Grits and eggs podcast. It's episode 51. I'm your host, Deontay Kyle. But who's behind the camera, huh? As always, deontaykyle.com shop your merch, go grab that. We got black history month in do the knowledge right on the black history Month, huh? I got something over here. We got some shit. You can go get the live from Jackson journal. We got shit for you. Follow me Deontay Cal on Instagram Deontay underscore Kyle on TikTok grist next podcast on YouTube audio drop every Monday visual drop every Wednesday. Big cat B I G G underscore Kat 89. Yes, sir. Give us a call. 657234 eggs. That's 657-234-3447. We got some voicemails we're gonna do today. We got some emails. Deontayeontaykyle.com Shoot me an email. This is for all your music submissions for your advice. For all inquiries booking deontayeontaykyle.com Got a special episode 51 today. Finna get real Southern. Finna get real hip hop. You done seen her, huh? This is my TikTok auntie, comedian queen of the south.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gigi LaFleur.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Don DeMarco. Heavy, heavy hitters. Okay. Okay. Holiday season.

[Deontay Kyle]

She like that. She like that.

[Gigi LaFleur]

She like that, right? Damn, son, where'd you find this?

[Deontay Kyle]

How you doing, Gigi?

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'm doing well. I'm doing well, man. Thank you for having me. Thank you for having me. Absolutely.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Oh, I'm happy to be here.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, everything cool?

[Gigi LaFleur]

You know I'm blessed and highly favored. Talk if he don't give me not another blessing. I still had way too many, so I can't complain.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Remember where you at, nigga?

[Gigi LaFleur]

I can't complain. He did too much for me already. But I'm still gonna ask for a few things extra.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna send me up a prayer tonight.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It feel like he's sending me to spam. He ain't answering a few of my last prayers. Hey, cuz, you still with me, B Dog? Hey, am I blocked? Hold on, cuz. Wait a minute now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Being in a spam photo is crazy.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Hey, you spammed me, did you? Lloyd. Hey, it's me again. B Dog. I was just wondering.

[Deontay Kyle]

So you become most notable on TikTok first.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Correct, correct.

[Deontay Kyle]

But you, you did a real good job of integrating over to Instagram.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I will say, listen, my Instagram, so TikTok taking off. I built it from the ground up. Like all of my platforms, I built it from the ground up. But what helped me on Instagram, honest to God, it was literally Lil Duvall. Lil Duvall shared one of my nail videos and it was my nail video I talked about about the type of nails that I like to get. I prefer, I prefer long gripper, Gripper, two, three inch bedazzled rhinestone overlay. Just quick little Freddy Kruegerfango. I prefer those type of nails. And I did a video about it and he shared it. And my platform went from probably maybe 10,000 to in a matter of six months, over 100,000 people.

[Deontay Kyle]

Sheesh. Yeah, yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Like out of nowhere.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's pressure.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'll forever be grateful for that. Forever.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's love. And you get a lot of love from comedians.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Facts.

[Deontay Kyle]

Most people won't do the transition from social media into actual standup. Most people try to go skit route and that burnout. Then they try to stage and they probably waited way too long to get on the stage. But you went right to the stage. Was that always something that you aspired to do just to be a comedian?

[Gigi LaFleur]

So in all actuality, I was actually doing standup first.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, word.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So I had already been doing standup and then I've always, you know, kind of toyed around online on social media and it just happened that the standup. The. It just happened that the social media took off and then people started finding out, oh, you do stand up too. Yada, yada, yada. And it just kind of translated from there.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And put more. Put more eyes onto something that I was already already doing.

[Deontay Kyle]

It makes sense though. Cause you like a natural comedian, so I thank you. But I didn't see the. I didn't see the comedy come until afterwards. So I Thought it was just like a transition. But that makes sense now that you say that. How has that been? Like, what got you into standup? Was that.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So I started doing standup. So my very first time doing standup was in 2017. My aunt had a party, and she booked me to be like. She let me do some Entertainment at her 50th birthday party. And, like, that was my first little bug. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I see this. I see this. And then my first paid gig, like, I. I didn't take it serious. I had the bug. Then I started taking it serious. In 2021, I had a cousin that was already a comedian. Him and his wife booked me to be on a show with them in Columbia, South Carolina, opening for Bubba Dub. And I got paid $75 to do that show. That was probably the best $75 I ever made in my life because you paid me to do something that came natural, and I was happy about it. Like, I felt like, hold up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, okay. Yeah. I can't lie. We just had our show in Jackson, and it's like to transition this to a stage, and then we getting paid, like, people buying tickets, people buying merch. I was like, bro, at first, it took me a little minute to realize, like, damn, we really doing this shit.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You really doing it.

[Deontay Kyle]

You on the stage. And then it just click, like, damn, this is where I'm supposed to be at.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You were gonna. And what makes it even better, you were gonna talk about this stuff anyway.

[Deontay Kyle]

Exactly.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You were gonna say this anyway.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Cause you was gonna tell them jokes. You was gonna get them jokes.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I was gonna say this anyway. So you were gonna pay me to put on an outfit that I already had to come in here and tell you something, Alyssa. I was gonna say it. Well, you wanna hear tonight?

[Deontay Kyle]

Right, right, right.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And I'm gonna have a few drinks on y'all type shit, and then you're gonna pay me, and then I'm gonna get to go home.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's the dream.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Come on, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's the dream.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'm out here living the dream. What you talking about?

[Deontay Kyle]

I've been being funny my whole dream for free, right? Yeah, right.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I've been giving y'all these jokes for free under the shade tree for years.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

High time somebody gives me a buck or two for this.

[Deontay Kyle]

What? So that first from that first paid gig was you like, this what? I'm finna do like, I'm on with it.

[Gigi LaFleur]

2021 from that first paid gig. When I walked out of there, August 2020, one I said to myself, you know what? I'm gonna take it serious. I'm gonna be for real about it. I'm gonna take it serious. I'm gonna put time aside every day to either make a skit, write a joke, I'm gonna put in the work so I can start doing this. And if I just. If I gotta build it from the ground up, then okay, so what?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, well, I would say that from, from, from the consumer perspective, right? It's like, like what I was saying. It's like we seen you blow up telling jokes and just being really. It's not even really telling jokes. You're just being yourself. Like, that's why I call you my. You. You my TikTok auntie. Cause like, this is how our people talk.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'm just. We're having in house conversations.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think that's what the podcast is like, bro. That's what we talked about anyway. It's like everybody get on the Internet and try to like, let me say something that's gonna be click worthy, but like, real shit is click worthy.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Front porch conversations.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I'm gonna click on the real shit every time, right?

[Gigi LaFleur]

Front porch conversations. Sitting around the aisle in the kitchen, conversations. Your grandma, your. Your mama is, you know, hot, combing your sister's hair and she's sitting there talking about stuff, and you're in the living room and y'all talking trash over the couch while she. These are conversations you would have had.

[Deontay Kyle]

This stuff you hear when your mama on the phone too. You just, you ear hustling like your.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Uncle just walked in with 19 keys attached to his side and it's jangling, right? Right? Him and his homeboy, him and his homeboy Howard, they already been drinking, right? They already been drinking. Your uncle come in, he got on a nugget bracelet. He got on a nugget bracelet and a pinky ring. And he come in and he say, oh, that nigga ain't got nothing on him.

[Deontay Kyle]

Tell him Tony, he been talking shit.

[Gigi LaFleur]

All day, brought it in the house, right? He got a cooler of. He got 19 Miller Genuine Drafts in a cooler on the back of a two tone pickup truck.

[Deontay Kyle]

Uhhuh.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That's it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't run.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right? Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. So the, the, the thing that's unique is like, we hardly see like authentically ourselves, especially like Southerners.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Correct.

[Deontay Kyle]

Sometimes we'll see. Doing a caricature of caricature, but like, not real.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So I think that just a fried chicken. I say, I say I got a man that's more.

[Deontay Kyle]

That should be nasty.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Out of here, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

That should be nasty. But to see you, to see you go from there to the stage and, well, you was already on the stage, but to get some notoriety on the Internet and then continue to pursue that path and then you win the comedy competition for Kevin stage and that take you all the way to California.

[Gigi LaFleur]

California.

[Deontay Kyle]

How was that?

[Gigi LaFleur]

Absolutely amazing. I'm learning that sometimes in life when you don't know what you're doing, you know you're doing the right thing. Because sometimes God will just send the people that you need anyway. That's how you know that you're doing the right thing. Like you have no plan. You don't know what you're doing, but it just feels right. And sometimes God will just say, girl, quick, I told your ass to stop here.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes you're too hard headed.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah, you don't be listening, man. Shut your apple here. He thumped me sometime in my soft spot and make me focus and say, look, I know you don't know here, this person right here gonna show you where you need to go. Pay attention.

[Deontay Kyle]

Did that put you kind of in a network of comedians?

[Gigi LaFleur]

Having people, having people who will genuinely share information with you and they don't want nothing in return other than just to see you win? You'll be surprised how many, how many people. I'm gonna say this. This is one thing that I love about us that I don't feel like people highlight enough. They say that we don't work together and that shit is just simply not true for me on most things like any other community. Yeah, we have our problems. But I will say I've met so many comedians that look just like me on my way up that they have been so willing to be like, oh, no, I'm here. Just call this person and see if maybe it works for you. Oh, well, here, this is what I did. It don't work for me on this, but it might work for you on this. Here, talk to this person. Just, just the fact that somebody's so willing to give you a little tidbit of information and you don't know how important it may be just, just having other comedians who are already solidified, it'll pull me in the room with them and say, hey, you know, I got a show. Yeah, come on in. Don't worry about it, you know, you ain't got to come on in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they'll just put me in the room. Sometimes just being in the room is the gift.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, that's it.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And you network it however you see fit, so it can work out in your favor. Yeah, Sometimes all I need is. Hey, I just. I just needed to play. I had a plan.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yes. Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Keep that little crack for me. We're gonna be all right.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That's all I'm asking. I didn't ask you. I didn't ask you to sit me down at the table. I didn't ask you to give me a ride, baby, I find a ride. All I'm saying is when you go in there, don't shut the door all the way, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Let me get my little foot in there. I tell my own lie to get in there. Just leave the door cry. I won't even put you in it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right, right, right.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Let me get in there.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think I can attest to that as well. I don't really buy into that mess of, like, we don't look out for each other.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We do.

[Deontay Kyle]

I like, it's been people that have put me in rooms where people is just like. And you get in the rooms and they show you love. Like, they may have already been exposed to your content, or it could be their first time meeting you, but it's love off the rip. Cause you came in through this person. They trust these people. And I done built up a network here in Atlanta with some local comedians and stuff too. Some. Some folks with some real major names. And I don't think it's like in good taste of name drop, but just type shit. But it be. But looks like they be showing love and they be giving real game out too, like.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, they be giving real game. And it's like you apply it and see it work and they'll lend spaces to you. And that should be real, bro. I think the thing is, the people that say don't know where to look out for them, don't look out for nobody else, that could be.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That could be a possibility. I also feel like sometimes it's about perspective. Everybody doesn't have the luxury of being able to see the optimism in things. You know, sometimes if you just been fed cups of shards of glass all the time, that's just kind of what you expect. And I don't want to knock that for anybody, but some of my most influential and monumental things that have happened to me, they included people that look just like me, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Absolutely.

[Gigi LaFleur]

People that look just like me. And some of the worst things that have happened to me included people that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look just like me. When you round black folks, though, you gonna get the Both. You gonna get both.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause, like, I stay in proximity to black folks, so, like, yeah, black people done did me dirty. Black people done.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Your experiences are gonna be with who you're around.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, exactly. And that's why I wanna be around. I don't really desire nothing else, so I'm gonna take the good with the bad and however it come.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah. This comedy journey, it's been an absolute blessing to be able to be in the rooms with people that I watch on tv, I see on, you know, on social media, and for them to be so welcoming, you know, always willing to make a place for me at their table. People like Ronnie, you know, like, you say name dropping, but I do wanna make sure I give these people their flowers for sharing space with me. Kev on stage, Ronnie Jordan, Carlos Miller. TI has been grateful enough to make room at his table for me. Like, just. I never would have thought in a million years that I'm a country girl from a hole in the wild town called Woodruff, you know, Woodruff, South Carolina. I never would have thought something like this would have happened to me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, but you. I mean, but you jumped out being yourself. That authenticity gonna pay off every time, right? Speaking of Ronnie Jordan.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Oh, Ronnie Runny. Oh, he's okay. Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

He pulling up.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Shout out Ronnie's super dope. Shout out to Ronnie Jordan and the Blessed AF Brand.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they. They cool as hell. Like Remo. I like Remo. Cool as hell.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Haha. Was haha. Mafia super dope. Everybody's dope. Erica, Ronnie Jordan, ti, Remo, everybody. Calamar, super dope.

[Deontay Kyle]

And shout out my boy Ferg.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I love yo Ferg. I love yo Ferd. He and at the Comedy Zone in Greenville. So, yeah, shout out to yo Ferg. He is super dope.

[Deontay Kyle]

So the transition of, like, it going from like, you grassroots to it blowing up, and now we. We hitting stages all the time. I want to give you opportunity. Like, if you got shows and stuff, you go to the club.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So I have a show coming up on March 6th at the Uptown Comedy Corner in Atlanta. So make sure that you come and check that out. I'm telling you, you do not want to miss this. I also have a show coming up in. See, March 20th, I'll be in Detroit, Michigan. I'll be at Punchlines. On March 23rd, I will be at Hyenas in Dallas, Texas. And on the 28th, I'll be in North Little Rock at the Nut House. So I'm trying to move around out here. I'm trying To. I'm trying to move around.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's what we were just talking about. Like, we going to the. We want to go to the blackest places, of course. Like. Cause we were just in Jackson. Jackson showed us crazy love, I believe. And then also, too, like, even the people that came from out of town is just like, it show, man, your folks gonna support you, bro. Like, if you. If you just. I think a lot of times we'll try to, like, take this mentality where we was like, we'll use our talents and try to hit a lick. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm trying to hit a lick, and it's like overcharging people or not being professional, not putting out quality product. Like, once you get the following, you just feel like, oh, I could just do whatever, gonna fuck me. It's like, nah. If you bring the right shit to black folks, black folks gonna show you the love.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So our buying power is absolutely crazy in this country. Like, we have the largest buying power. Like, we'll spend that money, but you're not gonna play with me about it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah. Cause black folks don't play by their money.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We respect black people are some of the most genuine people you'll ever meet on the planet Earth. We care about sincerity and we care about you being genuine. This is something that me and somebody was talking about this once before. But we care about you being sincere to the point to where it's not. It's not what you said, it's how you said it. Tone matters because we care about you being genuine. We don't care about the nicest things.

[Deontay Kyle]

But that's a part of our language too. We know how we can say one word, like five different things.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right? The tone matters.

[Deontay Kyle]

It means five different things.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Correct.

[Deontay Kyle]

So it's like we clocking that off the river.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We're clocking it so we can tell when you're being genuine. We don't care about what you said it was. You know what I mean?

[Deontay Kyle]

I felt where it was coming from, though, Right.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We understand that you. We care about the sincerity in what you said. That that matters to us. So that matters and translate in everything that we do. And I think that social media has. Social media has worked because like you said, me being genuine with people, it's allowing me to connect with people who've had similar experiences as me. I like to refer to it as the shade tree people. People who grew up with red dirt under the shade tree, playing horseshoes, playing tonk. Kids get their plate first.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Red cups. Your uncle got shine and he calling everybody over. You want a little nip? You want a little sip? Those type of people, that's my tribe. Yeah, that's my tribe.

[Deontay Kyle]

And that's like real Southern country culture.

[Gigi LaFleur]

For real. Yeah, absolutely.

[Deontay Kyle]

And we, I think we all come from. We, a lot of us run away from because it's stereotypes of it. But I think. Now I will say this, I will say this though, given that you have made like, I've noticed over like the last 90 days, you really made a really. Since Project PET has showed you the love, you really been putting a spotlight on the Southern hip hop from like all generation, like early 2000s millennial music. Yeah, the millennial music.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Absolutely.

[Deontay Kyle]

And yeah, bro, we be locked in on that. Cause that's like, that's what we talk about. We love that shit.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I love music.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, for sure.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Particularly our sub genre of hip hop. Just like with anything that you do, I feel like your experiences shape how and why you do things. Southerners have always been kind of like, we were the kids that were outside. We were the kids that were outside. And we built. We built this community amongst each other because we were kind of shut out. Like, oh, go, the grown people are in here talking. Go outside. So we were kind of. We were like the kids that just. We got stuck outside. We didn't get to sit at the table with the grown people like this. The grown people table.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. It was like New York and the West Coast.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right. So we learned to build on our own.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And we finally got that, that shine in that spotlight. And I think that once we got made others kind of tap back into. You started to remember those days at grandma's house.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You tapped back into. Cause you ran from it. And whether. Whether you ran from it on purpose or to assimilate, whatever. You started to look at those times at spending the night with grandma over the weekends with all your cousins in the south. With with reverence. Sleeping on Palace.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Eating Roger Wood sausage sandwiches in the morning.

[Deontay Kyle]

Big shit.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Right, Aaron, Gotta try to like conceal your laugh. Cause your grandma gonna come in there and cuss.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Stop all that snackling. All that kiki and snackling and out.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was the cousin. I'm cousin that's gonna keep shit going. Of course I'm trying to break somebody. I'm trying to get you in trouble. Right? Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I think that. I think that Southern hip hop. Southern hip hop always has that undertone of familiarity to it because the south has that family.

[Deontay Kyle]

And I think too, I think Every. I do, like, the emergence of, like, regional rap coming back.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I do too.

[Deontay Kyle]

West kind of getting back into their bag.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Love it.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm thinking shout out, like, Kendrick really kind of putting a battery in their. To, like, really get back to that west coast sound. But west coast artists have been, like, really doing their thing. I'm excited to see, like, the East Coast. I think pop smoke was gonna usher in, like, a real new sound for the Northeast. But, you know, his. Yeah, but I think the south has always, like, just spoken to the South.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I adore regional. I adore regional rap and, like, just regional nuances. I feel like now that the south has a spotlight on it, and it's had a spotlight on it for a long time. One of the things that I try to do on my platform with highlighting Southern rap is sometimes people don't understand Southern rap because sometimes it may be the accent, you may not understand the slang, you may not understand the reference. So what I try to do on my page is I take songs that we grew up with and that we cherish and I highlight it on there and I say it to where sometimes you have to hear somebody, you know, say it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right, right.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So you can understand it. If I've had people say multiple times in my comments, did Gucci man say that?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That's what I thought.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Let me go back and listen.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gucci. Yeah, but if you listen to it on face value, you don't really know that man got bars. For real. He really rapping his ass off. Sometimes they be. Yeah. And then so too, it's just like, most of the time, artists like Gucci man gonna get notoriety for, like, the song he got with Jeezy, like, just talking about jewelry and flexing and shit. But you ain't really tapped in with, like, bird flu and sports.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I got bird flu. Shouting. It's a terrible sickness.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, exactly.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

So it's like. And then no pad, no pencil, Gucci.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's like Wilt Chamberlain.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, Wilt Chamberlain. That's a lot. First of all, that man got a million mixtapes. EA Sports, the EA Sports center, one of his greatest works.

[Gigi LaFleur]

She Can Talk.

[Deontay Kyle]

Introduce us. Bank Row Fresh. Low key. Yeah, very low key. But I think a lot of times it's like, I always was in tune. Like I was going to say earlier, ever since, like, Andre has said this, I've got something to say. It's like. It's like that opened up a black hole, and it's been a new portal. And it's always been like very innovate in innovative sounds like Texas with the chalk and screw and then Louisiana with they bounce music, but then also producing some of the most lyrical and powerhouses in the South. Period.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Absolutely.

[Deontay Kyle]

And Cash Money and Lil Wayne, Shout Out Master P and them boys too. But then Florida, they always kind of got they uptempo. So Florida got their own thing going on.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Florida and Louisiana, they're like cousins. I think that Florida and Louisiana are two southern states. Well, I'll do you one even better. I think Florida, Louisiana and Texas are three states that are in the south, but they have enough of some. They have enough of their own to almost not be. They're still Southern. They're Southern, but they have so much of their own stuff going on that sometimes they don't even fall under the southern. The traditional southern hat. You know what I mean? The Southern culture hat.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. You mean like.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You know what I mean?

[Deontay Kyle]

Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Correct. I think that Florida sometimes has so much of everything else. North Florida is still Southern.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

But south Florida is not. Right. South Florida is not. North Florida is still very. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Farms and all that.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right. I think Louisiana. Louisiana is Southern. Nolan's is not.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right, right, right.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's its own culture. I think Texas is Southern, but not. And I'll even break it down one more step. I feel like Texas, black people are Southern. The rest of Texas is Tex Mex.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right, right, right, right. Cause you really dealing with like Houston and Dallas.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Correct. Black people in Texas are southern black people who. Who accept Tex Mex culture from Texas, but everybody else is Tex Mex culture who accept a few Southern.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right, right.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Influences. Does that make sense?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I do, actually.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And I feel that. That Louisiana is the same way. Louisiana, the state is southern, but New Orleans is not. New Orleans is its own culture that accepts Southern, you know, attributes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right. Yeah. Just given the history and stuff, Florida's the same way.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Florida is Caribbean and everywhere else is influenced with a few things of Southern Southern attributes. Until you get about to Tampa.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Once you get above, like central Florida. Once you get above northern Florida is.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Still lower Georgia, lower Alabama, Carolina.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

But once you get past Tampa, it's not.

[Deontay Kyle]

It turned into a whole nother thing.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right. You're. Now it's not.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, No, I understand exactly what you're saying, because I mean, even like being around the people, you could just like, you.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You get it.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a whole different thing.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You get it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Speaking. Since we're speaking of New Orleans, I know we Wanted to talk about that. Lil Wayne.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Oh, absolutely. Let's do it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Lil Wayne on the. What was it? Who was that?

[Gigi LaFleur]

What was it? Lil Wayne? What did I think about the jello.

[Deontay Kyle]

The.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Was it Liangelo ball?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And Lil Wayne's song. First, I want to preface what I'm gonna say by saying we love Wayne.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, we.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Dwayne Michael Carter. Oh, my God. Rabbit baby. Oh, we love him. We love him. You know, but. You know, but.

[Deontay Kyle]

And in true Southern fashion, we'll prop you up, Rabbit baby.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Oh, my God. We love him. You know, but.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah. That wasn't it.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Bless your heart, baby. That's. That's all right, baby. You did good. You did good, baby. You did good, baby. You'll get them next time. You'll get them next time, baby. Yeah, you will. It's all right. That's all right.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is what wanted at the Super Bowl.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That's all right, baby. You'll get them. Come over here. Sit down with your mama. Don't stop.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's what you want to hear at the Super Bowl? You know what you a talk about tougher than Nigerian hair at the Super Bowl.

[Gigi LaFleur]

My. Listen.

[Deontay Kyle]

Come on, Wayne. You ain't super bowl material, brother.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I. I love Wayne.

[Deontay Kyle]

I love him, too. I was walking around school rapping the suffix out loud. I was the nigga that rapped the music from the headphones. That's who I was, right? You gonna know I'm coming. Cause you gonna hear me saying words you don't understand out loud. And I know this shit bar for bar. I'm really in a concert. I just gotta be the class. So I'm walking and I'm performing, Right?

[Gigi LaFleur]

Wayne had us out here. Wayne had me out here in Trunk Fit, Wild Thornberry shorts. Yeah. I mean, he had me out here in Wild Thornberry shorts.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, bruh. Had us looking a little crazy. Hey, hey, look.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I let that man do that to me, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look, bro, when I was seeing the homies pull up with the lip piercing, I was like, what the fuck is going on, man? What is the influence?

[Gigi LaFleur]

Avril Lavigne.

[Deontay Kyle]

We was nobody. Was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He was a skater boy. You said see a later boy. He wasn't good enough for her. Dwayne, go in the house.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, Dwayne, go in the house.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Dwayne, go in the house. The street light done came out. Go in the house.

[Deontay Kyle]

The craziest thing about it is, like, when he first came out, he was rapping so damn good, and then he was tearing features up. He Was putting mix out. Put mix. Like mixtapes. I mean, the thing is, it was.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Like one beat Jack.

[Deontay Kyle]

He would get so many. He would have so much material out. It's like every day you could talk about a different project or a different song, and then everybody know this. Word for word.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Word for word.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's when he made that. When. When we transitioned from Lil Wayne to Young money.

[Gigi LaFleur]

My God.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's where Carter 3. Carter 3 is where shit took a hard left time.

[Gigi LaFleur]

No ceilings. No ceilings.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Cause Carter 3 no ceilings took me to a place.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Cause I'm trying to think of how we get from no ceilings to the Carter 3. And then niggas is n got lip piercing n biggest gang banger in the world. Out of nowhere, he got everybody gang banged. Like, bro. I remember a time in Georgia, you don't know nobody that gang banged. If they did gang bang, they was from California. For real. So everybody was a blood over the summer.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I remember Wayne. I remember Wayne had weave braided into his hair with the burnt ends.

[Deontay Kyle]

Sheesh.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He had the burnt ends when he first came out back when he was wobbly. Wobbity wobbly. Those were burnt ends wobbling on there. They were, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause mystical had.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah, he had burnt ears. I remember. To me, me and Wayne grew up together. This man's never met me a day in my life. To me, we grew up together. Wayne had burnt ends and he had a blue flag. I remember this.

[Deontay Kyle]

They was wearing all type of flags.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We grew up with Wayne. We watched him transition into all of these stages. We literally watched Wayne go through all of his stages of figuring out himself. He went from cornrows to the bike. Burnt ends. Wayne blue flag. Now he's trunk fit. Wayne Vans.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, we can't forget bait Wayne. That was an important baked. Wayne was babe.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Wayne was very important.

[Deontay Kyle]

Babe. Wayne is the people.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Babe Wayne is. Let's never forget about baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Wayne is the peak.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Lil Wayne like Wayne going with. With Trina Wayne.

[Deontay Kyle]

Exactly.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Peak Wayne.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's sad. Dipset Wayne very important, very important time. Nivea Wayne very important time.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Okay, when we get truck, Christina Milian Wayne.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. When we get the truck fit and then we get bedrock, that's when.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's when things start getting out there.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Wayne.

[Deontay Kyle]

When Wayne start going. When he start going, and I gotta. That wasn't him. That wasn't him. That was gutter. Gutter. But like, just that whole cadence. I gotta grocery bag when niggas just start saying shit and say it right.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It was crazy. That was crazy. It was. It was wild times we were living in. You gotta remember, we were in tall. We were in tall pinstripe shirts. Pinstripe shirts with 4x jeans.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was nasty.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It was nasty work.

[Deontay Kyle]

We heard Jay Z say change clothes and niggas thought that meant putting on the Big Sean Jon.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We had on a blazer.

[Deontay Kyle]

We had biggest sh. Big ass Shawn John. First of all, this was all right. This is when niggas was really confused. Cause we going business casual. Niggas got on. Big Sean John still got on jeans and a fitted hat. So you got on button up shirt and a fitted hat.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So it's like, is you going to a job interview or are you going to the club? So.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So we started doing this, you know.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm going to the club.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We started doing this because they weren't letting us in the clubs. So it used to be at one point in time they weren't. They weren't letting us in the clubs. Like, they literally put everything on the sign other than you can't come in here. They almost like, this is what the sign would say. The sign would say, no athletic gear, no jerseys, no long chains, no baggy jeans, no bright colored hair, no long colored nails. No. No. Was it. No excessive cargo pockets. It was pretty much no black skin, no full lips, no. If your great, great grandfather was property, you can't. I was like, come on, bro. It was almost a brown paper bag test to come in now. So.

[Deontay Kyle]

Of course. And then girls just started putting belts around they stomach, man.

[Gigi LaFleur]

The amount of WWE Hulkamania belts I.

[Deontay Kyle]

Had, the amount of. The amount of intercontinental champions I dated in 2008, baby, let me tell you, I dated a bunch of cruiserweights, a bunch of intercontinental champions in this bitch.

[Gigi LaFleur]

No outfit was complete until I put on that WWE belt, man. Oh, my God.

[Deontay Kyle]

Throw the belt on the.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Why did I do that?

[Deontay Kyle]

And then it's a shirt, but it's a dress. But it's not. But it's tights underneath that, but it's a skirt.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It was too much. We was doing a lot.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was a lot of shit going on.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We was dressed like real estate agents, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

When the homie. When I went to the club and the homie was like, all right, I'm getting dressed now. Come pick me up in like 15 minutes. And we go pick him up. And this nigga had on a blazer.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Blazer. I was like, man, a blazer, right? Dressed like a real estate agent.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now where you get that from?

[Gigi LaFleur]

That mug is dressed like he work at structure.

[Deontay Kyle]

Where you get that? Where you get Blazer? Go back in century 21. Go back in the house. Goddamn Polo, man, like the rest of these folks, bro. Cause you go polo crazy.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'm not gonna lie though. I. It could be cuz, you know, I'm a little old school. But I did appreciate the Hood Carlton era that that young DRO ushered in. I did appreciate that.

[Deontay Kyle]

What the fuck was you f. To say? I. Blazer is nasty. The. The. The shirt, dress shirt, vest.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Oh, oh, wait, wait. The argyle vest. The sweater vest.

[Deontay Kyle]

When got introduced to the fedora.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

No, no, no. This is the skill. Very nasty era. Very nasty work from in between. In between. Y.T. young to the Yandro era.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It was in the summer, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Maybe. Maybe it's like a nice. Like it was like 2007, 2008, 2009. We was fully on drilled out, Right, right.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That's true.

[Deontay Kyle]

We was fully going Hollister, American Eagle.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We going two collars.

[Deontay Kyle]

I actually don't know how to do nothing. Two collars, first of all, aren't doing anything subtle.

[Gigi LaFleur]

No.

[Deontay Kyle]

Is not gonna have a Hollister shirt. We are going in. Hollister is outside in the Sperry's fighting, right?

[Gigi LaFleur]

And Nike socks is in.

[Deontay Kyle]

Got on boat shoes in the middle of a parking lot. They're in a boat there ain't. There ain't no water single.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Can't even swim.

[Deontay Kyle]

Got on boat shoes. Beating ass bean.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Ass beat ass bean. You at your Sperry in a Burger King parking lot.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, getting beat. Yeah. Because we tried to do the polo shoes first, but them this is ain't. They ain't got a lot of durability. So niggas went, oh, we going Sperry now. Now we gonna wear boat shoes. Now it's niggas in the middle of the club. Slip resistant. Word. Word is niggas in the middle of the club looking like they finna go golf. Niggas ain't wearing socks, right?

[Gigi LaFleur]

And that's the goon and.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, that nigga.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That's the goon.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, look.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That's the goon. That's the most dangerous.

[Deontay Kyle]

And he fresh as fuck. Cause young Dr. Made it cool to be like a well dressed gangster.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I used to be in the club and it was a dude in the club. And we all knew that this man was. Hey, this man here was a lunatic. That boy got this. He got a sweater tied around his neck over there. That man will kill you over there, boy with that sweater tied around his.

[Deontay Kyle]

Neck to get killed by car.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That man will kill you over there, boy. That man will kill you over there with that sweater tied around his neck.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay, first of all, leave him alone.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Whoa, he cleaning his feet. Leave that boy alone over there on.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bro, that's a dangerous individual.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You see somebody with a sweater vest or with a sweater tied around their neck, they drinking. A tall boy in a club. Nah, that man is a killer.

[Deontay Kyle]

No. Going to a. That is a killer over your neck. No, no. Being dressed for water polo and drinking a steel reserve is insanity's a killer. You only gonna see down though, cuz. A got a steel reserve and they got a sweater. I remember. No, you remember when. Nah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You remember when, right? Plastic tilt.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, no, no plastic.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Not even a woody.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nigga used to treat black and miles like it was classy. That's when I was sick of niggas. That's when I was sick of niggas, bro. Yeah, let me take the cancer paper out.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Let me freak this black right quick.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let me freak this bitch.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Let me freak this black right quick.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, I think the funniest thing is like, girl fashion. Girl fashion have always been a little, like, nuts. Cause when we was wearing like big.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Ass Jabots, Jabos had a hold on the south that I don't think it did it. Jabot's didn't do numbers around the rest of the country.

[Deontay Kyle]

Introduce southerners to shit. Cause we just. Just run with it, bro.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Jabot jeans took over the south like the plague, baby. I'm telling you, you could put. You could.

[Deontay Kyle]

You could almost get that many bell crowns.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'm telling you, man, you could almost get a. You could get a pound and a pair of your bow jeans. You could get a pound and a pair of Jabot jeans. You could take.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, you could really trap the out of.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah, you could get a pound of weed and a pound. Your bow jeans, they had all of them pockets. If you roll it up tight, you can. Okay, maybe I said too much. But listen. Jabot jeans, Jabot jeans took over the south. And I'm telling you, man, it grabbed a hold on us and never let us go. Like dudes was taking them. Jabot strap jeans. So serious.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't gonna lie, man.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So serious.

[Deontay Kyle]

Jabos like twice a year like, man, Mar.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Franco Jabo. You gotta say the whole name. Respect the boy. He did. He did numbers down here.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, he really went.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He really did numbers down here.

[Deontay Kyle]

At the same time we doing this. We got. We got women wearing air force wearing heels to high school.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Jordan heels. Where are you going Jordan Hills.

[Deontay Kyle]

You going to math. Why you got on heels at school?

[Gigi LaFleur]

Shut up. Not gaucho.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, dog.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yes, yes, and a shrug to think about, like.

[Deontay Kyle]

Think about when you remember, like, the first time that you seen a girl go from the flats to the heels at school and, like, how she changed.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Oh, she.

[Deontay Kyle]

I am a grown woman.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'm too mature. I'm too mature for that. First of all, bitch, why you saying mature? I hate. You're too young to say mature for one. I'm too mature for this. Those are childish things. Put those childish things away, bitch.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm in 11th grade. I thought we was peers.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Girl, you don't have your Social Security card to yourself. Calm down.

[Deontay Kyle]

Your boyfriend ain't in school no more. I get it, I get it.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'm too mature.

[Deontay Kyle]

The boss have me pulling out.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We get it, we get it, we.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get it, we get it, we get it, we get it. God damn, we get it. You're too mature for us having to compete with adult men for the. The. The juniors and the seniors at the high school. Yo, it's just when shit just start getting cooked. Nobody bat at the eye when big boy dropped the girl off at school. Nah, that's what I'm saying. He just dropped her off and he kept it pushing. Nigga went to a home like his own home afterwards to feed the dogs.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I remember that. It used to be after the games, after. I remember after the high school football games because that's. I'm from a small town, so high school football. I can't even say that in the south, high school football is a big deal.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was a big deal, period.

[Gigi LaFleur]

High school football is a big deal. After the games, it was the thing that everybody met at the gas station. And then you go from the gas station to the mall to another parking lot and you went wherever the box Chevys went. The box Chevys led. Where everybody was going.

[Deontay Kyle]

Anywhere where it's more than 200 parking spaces.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It ain't got to be 200.

[Deontay Kyle]

It could be Walmart, it could be the mall, anywhere, Sam's Club, anywhere where we can get a couple cars in this motherfucker and just kick it if.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You can turn it. So I've noticed that here in the south, if you can get 5, if you can get 4 nice looking cars together, you, we'll follow you anywhere because we think it's an impromptu car show. We see them four car, we. Oh, where they going? Well, I'mma follow them for, you know, you got 50 cars following these four cars. Because we think they're going to a car show or a cookout. Some type of gathering is about to happen. Monumental.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is the movie.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Movie. A box Chevy is really a box Chevy tells you a lot. A box Chevy tells you a lot. It can tell you where the party is. It can tell you where something's about to happen.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It can tell you something just happened. A lot can be told.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

About a box.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

A lot. A lot. If you got that rust at the end of your box Chevy, over there by the gas tank. If you. If the. If. If the back fender is aired out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You don't let that rust get on there. You up to no good.

[Deontay Kyle]

If those rims could talk you.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You up there no good, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Seen everything.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That car used to be your brother car. Your brother got hit with them football numbers and he let you have the call. You don't take care of the car like you supposed to.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Your brother was the plug. And he left you his car. And you been out here mistreating this shit. And now Marcel is locked up, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Niggas really rewind that bitch till the wheels fall off.

[Gigi LaFleur]

What to. The wheels fall off? Like, there's literally still fruit loop cars where I'm from. Frosted Flake cars. Like, they're still alive and well and very prevalent. Very n. I'm not. I'm not going to lie. I still take a colorful box Chevy. A Tropicana.

[Deontay Kyle]

The Frosted Flake Capri is insanity.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's.

[Deontay Kyle]

It only come in Capri form. I love them. You can see. Now, listen. It's certain body types that go with certain. Certain things like brands. The Capri, they got the frosted Fl.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Got to put the frosted place on them.

[Deontay Kyle]

They go frosted.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And then when he get out the car, he has the jacket that goes with it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo, niggas doing that.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yo, niggas, I will still take a race car Dupont NASCAR jacket. You're never gonna shame me into not liking you.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm just saying.

[Gigi LaFleur]

First of all, sir, this is the South.

[Deontay Kyle]

What a time.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I will never disrespect our questions.

[Deontay Kyle]

A nigga will pull up in a Buick Regal, a yellow Buick Regal with M&Ms, and jump out with the M and M jacket, right?

[Gigi LaFleur]

You supposed to.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it's like, oh, this nigga is five. He is five. He's so fine.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It don't make no sense.

[Deontay Kyle]

He five. Damn. He ain't gonna be around long.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Ten. He's five. He's five, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a short shelf life, man. Cool ass nigga.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And that's my cousin that I want to pick me up on Friday from school. Pick me up car and turn the music up when we drive off. Turn that music up, right? And I'm in the backseat fight for my life. I can't breathe. I can't breathe. That system back there.

[Deontay Kyle]

The system knocking your goddamn spine apart. The biggest smoking.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Smoking, right? And he hopped by, right? He.

[Deontay Kyle]

But, oh, you can't breathe. He just cut the default stone. Hey, that ain't helping, nigga.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I still like that type of stuff circulating already. To me, that's still. To me, I still like that stuff. I still. That is a. It's a piece in time of southern culture that I feel won't ever die. There will always be car shows here. There will always be a cousin Tony that's gonna take his money and get a lime green Tropicana dunk with suicide doors on it with the lights and the bike. He's always gonna do that.

[Deontay Kyle]

And he's always gonna be cool. No, actually, that shit is never old school. Is never not gonna be cool.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's never not gonna be cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't care how many. This is a car country pull up. I don't care how many. I don't even give a fuck about your Maybach. None of that.

[Gigi LaFleur]

None of that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Give me a box Chevy. I'm good, bro. I be telling niggas all the time, I got nigga dreams, bro.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Okay? Cool aspirations.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, you got stars in the ceiling, bitch, them ain't even real stars.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I don't care. Nobody.

[Deontay Kyle]

I got stars in the sky. I'm gonna go get the box Chevy. Nigga, we can go t top with it. I can see the stars when I look up.

[Gigi LaFleur]

For real. I like it. You know, somebody be like, you know, I got a Panamera. Oh, that's nice. Well, I got a OJ Bronco. Really? That's me. Really? An OJ Bronco? Let me see. That's me like, you see that old.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ass truck I got out there?

[Gigi LaFleur]

I like stuff like that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I like don'ts. I like caprices. I like box Chevys. I like. I, I like car show calls. That to me, that's a part of southern culture. I enjoy seeing. I enjoy hearing with a little and.

[Deontay Kyle]

A little tweezers about this like ride spinner.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I enjoyed it. Is it country as hell?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Did he get out the car matching his outfit with a bottom grill? Absolutely. Is it country? Yes. Do I want him to Change it. Absolutely fucking lutely not.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hell no.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I don't want Lil Tony to change shit about it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Smoking big weed.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I don't want Lil Tony to change nothing about it.

[Deontay Kyle]

The good gas. He could probably start his fucking car with it. This should be smelling good as a motherfucker. And them be the coolest N though, for real cool.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Like, to me, that's a part of his. To me, that's a part of southern culture that sometimes gets villainized. And it shouldn't. Because I think that that is entrenched in southern culture, man. This is a car. This is a car region. We don't take public transportation.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's not a lot of public transportation.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We don't do that. We're car people.

[Deontay Kyle]

So you gotta take pride in your car, right? Especially like you get outside. Even in a city like Atlanta, it's like the public transportation is cool, but it's actually like something we aspire to get away from. You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody want. They will, right? Like we was in Jackson, bro, in the plaza. We was in. It's a boost mobile. It's a check cashing place. It's a city trans. I'm just letting you know where we at, okay? Nigga pulled up in a clean ass. El Camino. I'm talking about clean beating. Jumped out, went to City Trends, bought him a pack of white tees, got back in that bitch and peeled off. I said, this is my type of. This is.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I love.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah, that's the I love.

[Deontay Kyle]

And that El Camino would clean it for. And this is the thing about in the El Camino. Ain't nothing gonna be in the back of that mother.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Ain't nothing back there. He got a gas tank back.

[Deontay Kyle]

It might be you. It might be a gas tank, it might be a jack, right? Maybe Mike.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You don't know.

[Deontay Kyle]

But if. But just random.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It might be a bucket back there. Cause he might pop out, go fishing pie out of nowhere. You don't know. You don't know that boy got that bucket. Cause he gonna get him some whiting. Yeah, he'll get us some brim right quick. You know, you never know.

[Deontay Kyle]

You good. But we. I don't know how we.

[Gigi LaFleur]

How we got there.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, but I want to talk about this because I mentioned before we did. I. I've been trying to. I've been trying to really push this point because I haven't heard anybody say it, but the southern rapper loves alliteration and onomatopoeia. That's our shit.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I agree. We like Chance.

[Deontay Kyle]

Waka Flocka really revolutionized the ad lib, bro. I would say Jeeziest.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Hold on, hold on.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, okay. Maybe not ad lib. Cause you write about Jeezy. Let's just. Let's say. Let's say Waka Flocka maybe the first drill artist.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Okay? Southern drill artist. I give you that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Who? Man, that was hard, man. That shit makes me want to go kill some shit. I'm trying to give Walker Flocker something.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'll give you that. Something he does make Southern.

[Deontay Kyle]

He carried the last leg of the crunk era. Okay, all right, now. Okay. Walker Flocker carried the last leg of the Crunk era.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

He was the last of the Little Johns. Yeah. Okay. All right, now he was more of.

[Gigi LaFleur]

A trap Lil Jones.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He was a trap. Lil John like it. Like if.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, he was never say, you know the club up, but wouldn't do it, right. Walker Flocka gonna that club. No, like, the boys are just tearing figure eight apart.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That makes sense. Walker Flocka is who they brought in when they said, we gonna fuck this club.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, come on out. I'm tell you something about Walker Flocker. Irl real life shit.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Joaquin.

[Deontay Kyle]

This man, Joaquin Flocker.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Joaquin Flocker, Joaquin Flocka.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna tell you something about this nigga. When he was getting his buzz and everybody was starting to know who he was, them niggas was in the club beating people the fuck up.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Like, I had really. Oh, that dude.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, they was really beating people to.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I had been Brick Squad.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it was. Yeah, yeah. I had really been Brick Squad. Literally, bruh.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Living the music.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause you would know, like, it would be like every other or once or once a month, you can go and figure eight, and it's gonna be 30 niggas in there with red T shirts.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And it's just like, we know what it is.

[Deontay Kyle]

Somebody finna get fucked up.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah, we know what it is.

[Deontay Kyle]

The only thing we need to make sure is it's not us.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Everybody get on your P's and your fucking Q's. Stay in your spot. Cause if you. If you fuck with one of them niggas in them red shirts, all them niggas finna beat you up and they gonna shoot the parking lot up, right? So you just let them niggas be. You let them Brick Squad niggas find them a victim and make sure it ain't you.

[Gigi LaFleur]

No, that's true.

[Deontay Kyle]

The crazy thing is nobody never died Nobody never died. Just went home.

[Gigi LaFleur]

See, now I'm trying to think about it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just went home embarrassed.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Who ushered in the ad lib era? Because it's gotta be Gucci Jeezy.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean Pete.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Let's not act like Pete didn't give us.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta think about. You gotta think about it like this though.

[Gigi LaFleur]

The south loves an Adley.

[Deontay Kyle]

Lil Jon was ushered in the current era basically off of ad libs. Cause the songs were ad libs basically.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

But then you got. I think Jeezy was the first person that made it like a thing. Cause Jeezy left a lot of space in his music.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He did.

[Deontay Kyle]

He wasn't like over rapping the beat. Cause on that get Throw I feel.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Like he's getting that.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know what it is about that. I don't know what it is about his verse on get Throw. Cause it's not extremely complex. He not saying the crazy shit he wrote. The beat just sounds so fine, right?

[Gigi LaFleur]

He wrote the beat.

[Deontay Kyle]

Drop star next tail chirp all day. I do this. No, I'm outside on the shirt all day. And he mean that. And this bruh. And the nigga was pudgy and he was with a big man. Look, bruh, this is the thing about Jeezy, bro. He kept a big cat, big hat, no facial hair, Big cat ball face. No facial hair, no hair. Bandana, Bandana.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bald face, gangster, right?

[Gigi LaFleur]

But if you think about it, they were all bald faced gangsters then because they were. They were really young.

[Deontay Kyle]

It wasn't really a thing.

[Gigi LaFleur]

No, they were really young. They were literally very early twenties.

[Deontay Kyle]

This the thing when is there is something that happened. Like the men of old don't have as much arrested development. So niggas was 19 looking like grown ass men. You know what I'm saying? Maybe it's the food, maybe it's the mindset. But you. I think the, the. The millennials, our. Our age group, there's been a push to keep us young.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Young. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

For a long time.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Well, I think our age group is the original young.

[Deontay Kyle]

I talk about it all the time.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I feel that way. I feel. I feel that. I'm gonna tell you why I say that. I feel that millennials, Millennials are the original young. Like the hot boys are the original young.

[Deontay Kyle]

We all know a that went to class and he didn't say much and he was always in trouble. This dude, he don't. The dude.

[Gigi LaFleur]

This dude him.

[Deontay Kyle]

You talking about him literally f to say. And he always twisting his head, bro, how do we know how do we all know the because when he don't talk to nobody but he stay in trouble.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And he hold his pants like this when he walk. Yeah, he walk when he his pants like this. And like right before he crashed out, he started doing it. Know me. He started doing it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Somebody don't with him. Yeah. And this the most. You don't ever heard him talk. And this nigga's gonna get active. He's gonna get active.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And this is like. These are. There are certain art types of like black. The. The. That's twisting his hair. That's a dangerous man. The come to school with a fro, he leave with locks.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah. And it's usually it's just half. He doesn't get it all done.

[Deontay Kyle]

He never get it all done.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He never gets it all done. Never.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's on his strong side, right?

[Gigi LaFleur]

He does it on this side immaculately.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah. Yeah. The other side, full throat.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He always. He always has those scars.

[Deontay Kyle]

You don't even know how he. You don't even know how he parted it.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He always has little scars. Jumping fences and whatever. Always a little light ash on the knuckles. Little light ash. Not. Not crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Never quite right.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's not. It's not like. It's not neglectful ash, but it's just enough ash to let you know he took a shower today, but he didn't put on no lotion. He's not being neglected.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did not. He did not come corners. He cut.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He outside.

[Deontay Kyle]

He cut corners.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right, right.

[Deontay Kyle]

He.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He outside.

[Deontay Kyle]

Troubles are brewing.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right, right, right, right. Trouble is, is it's on the horizon.

[Deontay Kyle]

He finna get into some shit.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's never completed all the way.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's always to speak that person bring us to like let's. No, let's go back to the ad lib. That's actually a very good conversation. Ad libs by young young Jeezy. And then we get the whole Gucci Gucci. Great ad libs.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Great ad libs. What gray ad libs. Career based career.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, no. Whole ad lib was skirt, skirt, skirt. The best pass by everybody licking six.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Stoves in the house and everybody cooking rich stone blow chain like blow. We throw it in the air and watch it. Calm down, you rhyme Burke.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, them bullets go.

[Gigi LaFleur]

She got the common cold. I got the bird flavor. Let's not play with Reginald Davis. How many gas stoves?

[Deontay Kyle]

No, no, no. That's a stove and two hot. Too hot.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And a hot plate.

[Deontay Kyle]

Too hot plate. A hot Plate stove and two hot plates. How many stoves is in this house?

[Gigi LaFleur]

How many stoves?

[Deontay Kyle]

Hold on. What's the zoning laws around who inspecting this house?

[Gigi LaFleur]

Who put these two stones in who? You can't do that. You're going to short circle the neighborhood. Roderick, cut it off. Neighborhood is done. Habitat for Humanity checking out a square block. Everybody, everybody on the block about to be mad. Cause he getting ready to set the block ablaze. Right, cuz. Gucci Mane got six stoves in the house and everybody's cooking. Why? Wow. Everybody is cooking.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, look, I can't say nigga wasn't gonna keep some people employed, okay?

[Gigi LaFleur]

He was running the Carter.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh my God. That's some funny shit.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So yeah, it's Gucci Mane. Jeezy waka. I'm trying to think who. Like you said, the South. The south loves an addict.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause we had some real people. That was very.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Luckily you needed an ad lib tag in the South. Cause I look like money, smell like money, talk like money, even walk like money.

[Deontay Kyle]

These niggas, we know these niggas like Marco, we know them. Gorillazo, Gorillazo kind of had him out of hoes.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Jockey beat, steady Nike.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, Gorillazo had him. Well, when that nigga made that loss Gorilla.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Gorillazo had.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, the Gorillazo jumped the emo bag. I'm lost on the road. That was lucky. Making country music and I don't know where to go.

[Gigi LaFleur]

There was. I'm telling you, there was an error. That Gorillazo was really doing it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, look, let's talk about Lil Wayne. When he got in his bag.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You talk when he got in his. His computer, little bag. He got his computer like little bad. Let's talk about it.

[Deontay Kyle]

The auto tune should be stoned.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That made me so mad. So mad.

[Deontay Kyle]

If we gonna be honest this.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'm not gonna blame T Pain. I blame Jewel Santana, cuz I feel like once him and Jewel Santana did that.

[Deontay Kyle]

I can't feel my face.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I am not a human being.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Dwayne, get the away.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, let's get away from them.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Dwayne, get the away from Harlem. Go in the house. Dwayne, go in the house.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get the fuck out of Harlem. Get back to Harlem. Dwayne, go in the house.

[Gigi LaFleur]

What are you doing? Get your ass. If you don't get. I did not pay for this. I did not. I did not.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause look, if you go look on the light Father Lightsun album cover, this nigga got on a big ass hat, a wife beater, big jeans. Jeans are Humongous with Chuck Taylor's. First of all, how you walking around like that?

[Gigi LaFleur]

He gotta have rubber bands. He gotta have rubber bands on the bottom. It's off.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Definitely off.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look, you can't have that much jean on top of a concert.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's not enough shoes.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a flat shoe.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's right. It's not enough. It's not enough surface area more soft than that.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right, right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Basically.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And, and the ankle circumference on that leg. The ankle circumference on that leg. That boy had on stove pipe jeans. He had to have had on stove pipes if he, he, I hope he had rubber bands.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then you making the jeans heavy as hell. Cuz you got these big ass belt chains and a belt chain.

[Gigi LaFleur]

This mother got Jim Jones belt chains on. He went and hot top it and grabbed every belt chain they had in the bag and put it on.

[Deontay Kyle]

I went belt chain crazy for belt chain. I had a belt.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Jim Jones had. Had everybody out here dressed like a biker.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm just throwing that on the belt loops. Boom, boom.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And that's who I blame for that. Jim Jones.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah. No Jim Jones.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Jim Jones. Jimmy, Jimmy. Jimmy needs to be stopped.

[Deontay Kyle]

Took up the market on.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That's what we need to give Jim. Right? Let's give Jim his flowers. Because people don't give Jim enough credit for what he's done. Let's give Jim his flowers. I'm getting ready to give them to him right now. That man had us out here dressed like Hell's angels. That man had black America out here dressed like Hell's angels for no reason. No motorcycle, not a license in site. And we got on 19 belt chains and leather veins.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know now who own a motorcycle, but I got on a belt.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Belt chains, belt chains. Everybody had on car show, motorcycle vest.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, no. Yeah. First of all, you remember when was going leather fitted?

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's a hot ass hat.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Leather fitted. Leather fitted.

[Deontay Kyle]

And now let's talk about leather fitted. Talk about young jeans in a leather fitted.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ball head leather.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Leather fitted.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's sick.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And look embossed. Leather fitted.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, bro, listen.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Embossed. I'm talking about new era logos stitched in them hoes. Leather hats.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, these are real leather hats. And then.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And them hats was, you know the hat that Gilly had on after the Super Bowl. That was the size of the hat.

[Deontay Kyle]

No. Used to have a hat cover their ears. First of all, that's not the point of a hat.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Oh, My God, Joe Button had his.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ears and his glasses in his hat.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Joe used to spend the night in that hat, baby. It was so much space in that hat, baby. Joe was pulling that hat down and then stepping out that bitch. I'm talking about pulling the string on it to keep it. That hat used to be soft. Oh, my God. I don't know what we were doing.

[Deontay Kyle]

The hat of illusion. It's so much bigger on the inside.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Why was we doing this?

[Deontay Kyle]

No, look, bruh, it's all right, bruh. Niggas didn't have any ideas about, like, what a fit, what, like tailored and fitted things were. If it could stay on my head, it fits. Because in Double Bad Boy video, Lil Wayne had on a little bitty ass T shirt and a fat ass hat. The biggest hat you ever seen.

[Gigi LaFleur]

The biggest.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it's white.

[Gigi LaFleur]

The biggest. That mud had on the biggest hat I had ever seen in my life. It was a ten and a quarter. Oh, my God, that hat was so big.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ain't that many locks in the goddamn world.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Not that many. Can't be.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, but you gotta have a.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You.

[Deontay Kyle]

But you gotta have a lot of space when you want to wear your hat to the back like Jim Jones.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And then he had the. He had the locks with the ponytail and the hat on top of it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Boy, it was all in the hat.

[Gigi LaFleur]

My God, Dwayne.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know who else used, like a big ass hat? Plies.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Oh, plies did. Plies. Did love.

[Deontay Kyle]

Pl loved a big hat.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Pl did a big ass hat, too. Plug a big hat, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look, pl also had a big ass head. Pl got a big head, bro. Yo, that was crazy.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I was gonna let it ride because I was like, you know what? We're gonna do a lot of pause. But I was. But it was pause worthy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, that was a little while.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It was pause worthy.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's crazy.

[Gigi LaFleur]

But see, I think the big hat.

[Deontay Kyle]

Plus another that used to wear big ass clothes with Chuck tables.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Well, I just say, I think that the big hat went with the big clothes.

[Deontay Kyle]

He used to fold the top. I hate a nigga that fold the top of the Chuck T. Just wear the Chuck table.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Wait, what you mean fold it? You talking about like fold it down?

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, we got a Chuck Taylor folder in here. We got Taylor gang in the building. We got real Taylor girl in the building. Yeah, yeah, real Wiz Khalifa. So now Wiz Khalifa really had Hickens out here buying them cheap ass shoes.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Chuck Taylor.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look, I'm gonna tell you. Hey, look, one thing about me, I Ain't gonna lie about being in the Shoe Carnival.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Cause one thing I'm gonna do is go and Shoe Carnival, okay? I'm gonna go get me a buy one, get, get one half out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let me tell you something. I'm mad about it, but after I throw up a few jump shots in the back, I'm. Oh, no, no, no, no. Look, once I got there, I'm in the back of the shoe car crash, okay? Not really in that 21.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Trying to explain to a black parent in Shoe Carnival.

[Deontay Kyle]

Mama, they ain't got nothing in here, man.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Try to explain to a black parent that is just trying to keep everybody alive that these shoes in here are grass cutting shoes. Trying to explain that to your mother is one of the hardest, top five hardest things to do.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let me tell you something, bro. Every time you pull into the Shoe Carnival, you can't explain it to her. Every time you pull into the Shoe Carnival parking lot, you be like.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Fuck.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna have some bullshit on my feet for the next six months.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Oh my God. But I'm going in there anyway though.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look, bro, I'm telling you, after you get you a couple shots up as you get you a couple. Once you go finger rolling and Shoe Carnival, I'm ready to find some shoes. I think I'll settle on the Reebok classes.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'm going, I'm going. She gonna make me go in there, but I'm gonna get in there. I'm gonna get these little. I'm gonna get these Reebok Renaissances. Cause they not classics. Those are Renaissances. Get them Reebok Renaissances and come on out, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

You ever told your mama, I can't.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Find nothing, she gonna find something for you.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, man, look, you don't want to go fake Air Force One. You don't want to walk out that bitch with the fake forces you.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Oh, my God. Sorry.

[Deontay Kyle]

But I'm gonna tell you the reason why I bring up Shoe Carnival is because your best bet is to get.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Some choice tables for Shoe Carnival. Yeah. So Shoe Carnival used to sell Timberlands at one point in time, but not the Boneless Timbs. They used to sell Euro hikers at one point in time. They used to sell Euro hikers.

[Deontay Kyle]

To walk out of Shoe Carnival with some trail shoes is insane. Trail boots.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So this is what you got.

[Deontay Kyle]

Where the fuck is going?

[Gigi LaFleur]

There was one point in time to where Euro hikers stacked socks, a pair of duckhead shorts or polo shorts. And the Carlton look with the pair of stacked socks and Euro hikers. You Were giving classic wealth. You were giving classic wealth. The only way you could swap up the Timberland was to put on the construction team. But it had to be the double soul. Don't put that boneless ass Tim on. You got to do the double side.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think the only time you could really swap out with the Tim is the beef and broccoli. Like, you can either go double solo. You go beef and broccoli. You remember going to school. You remember your first day of school on the bus? You know, you fresh, and then you, like, know. You put this. This mean I'm. You, like 11th grade. So you know what, where the bus stops is. And. And I'm. I'm out the window looking at a shoes before they get on the bus. You better have that on. You better have it on. Because we are well prepared to embarrass niggas on the first day of school, right?

[Gigi LaFleur]

Very prepared.

[Deontay Kyle]

Damn. That's all y'all can do is Reebok this.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Reebok.

[Deontay Kyle]

First day of school is crazy.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Everything with us goes back to, of course, slavery. But we are the most peacocking people. We love the peacock. Put that shit on, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

So you can see Yondro built the whole career.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We love peacock. We love it. We love it. But I also think it is. We take. We're big on taking pride in what you. You know, hey. Because we don't want to look like what we've been through. We all grew up in a house of.

[Deontay Kyle]

But then also, too, it ain't can't nobody do it better.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Come on now. Talk about it. Greatest people on the planet take nothing and turn it into something.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look, man, that said 600 see through bins, call it the glass. Cool. That don't even exist. They don't even make that Mercedes. Don't know nothing about that.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Fucking nothing about it.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is what I'm saying. Niggas will bootleg some shit, bro.

[Gigi LaFleur]

They don't know nothing about it. That shit was never approved.

[Deontay Kyle]

Diamonds look like passion fruit. They never approved the Viper look like Snapple juice. Never.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Like, never.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay. All right. Dro.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Young dro.

[Deontay Kyle]

Young DRO finna get some color. He got the color wheel for your ass.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Young DRO has given us the. The most descriptive adjectives. Yeah, yeah. The only other person I think of that is as descriptive as Young dro. Throw your curveball here, Riff Raff.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't gonna lie.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Riff raff. Now, listen, it's the only person I can think of.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna keep it real with you. That Riff Raff. If you catch him in the right.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Pocket, tiptoe one in my jaw, then.

[Deontay Kyle]

He might go, nah. Riff Raff be saying some, some real off the wall.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Hey, Chauncey, can you bring me my pastel Prada out the pink credenza in there?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Come on, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay, okay. So. So.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Hey, Chauncey.

[Deontay Kyle]

So Riff Raff is the white Yondro as Yondro is the Down South Cameron.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Down South Cameron. Let me see how I feel about that. Let me sit back and ponder. Would you call him down South Cameron?

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm just saying if we had to make a comparison. If we have to. If we have. If we had to connect the dots.

[Gigi LaFleur]

If we're. If we're going.

[Deontay Kyle]

If we just go. If we not saying. We're not saying DRO is underneath. We just saying.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. Because DRO does have a very Harlem esque, dapper, put that shit on your BS on me. Nothing in me attitude about it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He has a. I'm gonna be.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Is Atlanta the Harlem of the South? As far as the way y'all feel about it, the way they feel about image.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, I was there with Santi. Haitian hoes want me yesterday. I was the flyest in the country.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

What bro? That trolley talking. That bro. No, listen.

[Gigi LaFleur]

The Southern. The Southern Cameron. I never thought about that. And you are right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Young DRO does have a very Harlem.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cameron was on the block in a pink Range Rover, pink fur with pink bandanas on spinning rims.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He was, he was.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, you want to talk about just doing it the right way? Yeah, I really.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I never thought about that.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's the thing, bro. This the thing. About like early 2000s, no stone was left unto turn. Everything had an assessment.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Everything. Yeah, everything was.

[Deontay Kyle]

Every. Every part of the body was covered with something.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right? We are.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cuz I had a fake Jacob the Jeweler watch. I had that. I went right in Manhattan and bought that. And I had two bands for my.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You had no ice man watch, did you? No Iceman watch.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't go. I ain't go him tell a diamonds in my ear. Calling lemon heads ice like Winnipeg. It's not bro. Listen, when get very descriptive about their clothes like their articles, you know, they.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Think they got that on no bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

Liz, that one. I'm telling you.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Give me two tickets. Cause it's me and Bart.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, that what I'm saying. It's me and my chain. My chain.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Give me two Tickets. Cause it's me and Bart.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, okay. No, he meant that.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He meant it.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's me and Bart.

[Gigi LaFleur]

No, nobody puts enough. We don't put enough emphasis onto the jewelry era of 2000s.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's when he was off his rocker. The most.

[Gigi LaFleur]

The most. This man was. He was on something serious.

[Deontay Kyle]

Understand? That was serious about that bar Simpson chain, bro.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That man was the hip hop boogeyman. That man was the hip hop boogeyman.

[Deontay Kyle]

Dangerous, bro.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Dangerous. They call me Chef or RG now hold that thought. When I heard. Seen the whole that thought video and the quick drama girl out of a flight jacket, I said, nah, this is a dangerous man. Where's the holster?

[Gigi LaFleur]

This is the difference.

[Deontay Kyle]

Where is the holster? Cause the. The was here with it and then.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He was here out of nowhere. Out of a flight jacket. That's insane.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it was a brown flight jacket.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Oh, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So those.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Well, did it have the orange on the inside?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the thing about a brown flight jacket. I'm gonna tell you that. Got money that will shoot you. And he. And he personified that in real time.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's an unregistered. It's an unregistered weapon.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a. It's like.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's a 40 register.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a Desert Eagle. That's a heavy pistol, right? Why you go to GC parties? I was so fresh.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'm so fresh, I had to go. I'm so fresh. I had to go. I'm so fresh. I had to go. I'm so fresh.

[Deontay Kyle]

No.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And then he said, he said, you didn't see what I had on. You didn't see what I had on. On Instagram. I was so fresh, I had to go. He wanted you to see his outfit so he could confirm with you that.

[Deontay Kyle]

This was so nice also to them. Ain't going to do that. No, no. First of all, we got to talk about Gucci.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I enjoyed the Gucci Goon era. I did enjoy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Really? Gucci was a D. Like, he's. He really with that. Yeah, cuz he. He made black tea.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Gucci had.

[Deontay Kyle]

He made black tea.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Gucci had a us outside. Do you hear me?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, that's a fat.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Gucci had us outside. This is. I like to look at it as the Gucci and the Jeezy era. I look at it as Gucci spoke directly to that young that was outside. The young that threw the rock that knocked out the light post. He's talking to him.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He's talking to him. Jeezy is talking to the brother of that dude who. He's outside in the streets, but he tried to do a little extra in the neighborhood so he can keep his brother from being him.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, but his brother too far gone.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He too far gone. He already outside. He's. He's a little reckless.

[Deontay Kyle]

Jeezy made music for. For established drug deals. There you go.

[Gigi LaFleur]

There you go. He may. Well, he may work a regular job, but he doing some extra.

[Deontay Kyle]

Even if you not keys, you not hand to hand.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You're not a corner boy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, you hold.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You're not a corner boy. Don't nobody come see you for 3.5.

[Deontay Kyle]

Music for Drug traffickers. You know what I'm saying?

[Gigi LaFleur]

There you go.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gucci made music for nickel and dime sellers, right? 30 minutes. We ain't finna never catch no damn bus. Cause for Christmas, his mom became a 50. Yeah, and what'd he do? I was blowing out the atrium like a jump Nazi on being like a fool. That was 1998.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah. Jeezy makes music for the dude who he's already put in his work. And he's got some. He's got his stripes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Yeah, he done. He done went down. He done did his time.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He's got his stripes. He's smarter this time.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, he good. He gonna do it right the second time.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Gucci made music for south for. For the. For the dudes who live down south, but they living in the wire.

[Deontay Kyle]

No. Yeah, Gucci, man. Gucci made music for niggas. When they do catch their charges, they not coming home, Right?

[Gigi LaFleur]

And they don't make their mind up that they not.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, they not coming home.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Hey, dog, I'm telling you right now. Get out the car. Yeah, go ahead and get out the car, cuz. I'm not stopping this car. Okay, thank you. Right? It's. It was.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Gucci had us outside. Gucci had everybody outside.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gucci had me thinking, like, having 2 ounces of milk made me like a millionaire.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Gucci had in the club without their shirt on, bro. Shirt on, shirt on. Do you hear me? Listen, Gucci had men in the club with their shirt off, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

And a chain that.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And a chain.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

These dudes got their shirt thrown over they shoulder, chain hang chained out here, big Jabot jeans.

[Deontay Kyle]

Rolling. You hear me? Rolling.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That jaw was moving down 85 south.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. That job used to be y'all is down 80.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Y'all is on a. Y'all is on a wire.

[Deontay Kyle]

And I'm gonna make sure everybody all right? You. You Good. You wire better not be looking at me too long. Yeah, it's a great time, man.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Gucci had us outside, man. Yeah, Gucci had. I. I really feel like during this era, this was peak club era, peak club, you could really go to the club and get all of the essentials. You're gonna have a great time. You were gonna take a picture, so you have photographic evidence of your outfit that you may have purchased out of the trunk.

[Deontay Kyle]

Creative recreations.

[Gigi LaFleur]

This back when the dope boys was real dope boys. And when I say that, I'm not glorifying that culture, but I'm saying this is when dope boys was real dope boys. They was real dope boys. The word dope boys was coming in there and saying, hey, it don't matter. Just give me all that drinks. Get whatever they want. Put it on me. This dope boys, real dope boys buying everybody drinks in the club.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, they was used. They were spending the money.

[Gigi LaFleur]

There was doughboys was really wasn't trying to.

[Deontay Kyle]

And. And they wasn't trying to shine on or nothing. No, I'm happy to do it.

[Gigi LaFleur]

There was. There was a section, but it wasn't section culture. You had vip. You knew who was in vip. Those very same dope boys. That's who's sitting over there. There weren't any regular people over there. We all knew at that time VIP was for street dudes, not regular people. Regular people were out there leaning with it and rocking with it in their. In their gas station T shirt that.

[Deontay Kyle]

They were just having a good time, man.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right, Right. I was in a gas station T shirt out on the dance floor, and the dope boy sat in the VIP area.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna tell you the biggest flaw of section culture is that niggas don't gotta know they limit. You don't got to know your limit with alcohol. When you are on the dance floor, you gotta know your limit. Because if you don't gonna show you, you at your limit. Cause we in here dancing like we having a good time. I'm dancing with girls. The right song. Come on. I'm getting to it, too. Everybody was dancing, bumping, and it's always you sweaty. Yeah. And somebody gotta knock you out. Yeah. You spilling blue motherfuckers. Yeah, blue.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Blue motorcycles.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I'm spelling blue motorcycle.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Incredible hobby.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got a pitcher of cranberry juice for whatever reason. Nah. We gotta get you up out of the club, right? What are you doing?

[Gigi LaFleur]

We gotta get you out of here. You're doing too much. I Also think that it. One thing that ruined club culture is it used to be at one point in time, everybody wanted to be regular. Once club culture hit, everybody wanted to be the dope boy. It's not obtainable for the nigga that work at Amazon.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, you. But you, it's you and your four co workers going in on a session.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's not obtainable for Trey, Tony, Mark and Paul that work at Amazon. You're not gonna be able to keep up with Dantron that's up there in VIP. Dantron made $600 today, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

First of all, it's just. It's you and it's you and four niggas and it's just him.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah, you.

[Deontay Kyle]

You can't keep up with that to spend that money, right? You came here on a budget.

[Gigi LaFleur]

On a budget.

[Deontay Kyle]

He came to spend it, right? And that's why. That's what don't understand why a bottle of a 40 bottle of Hennessy cost 200. Because he'll spend it.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Because he'll spend it. Everybody now wanted to be.

[Deontay Kyle]

Everybody wanted to be the dope boy used to prop up the club.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Correct.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now, I would say BMF kind of.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I will agree on that.

[Deontay Kyle]

A lot of.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I will agree on that.

[Deontay Kyle]

But I ain't going to lie. When we was talking about there's a 100 with bottles in the section, it.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Was the mansa Musa of club culture.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That Big Meech was the mansa Musa of.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He was the mansa Musa of club culture. He came in, he had so much drug dealership, messed up the economy. He shifted the economy because everybody wanted to be Big M D. Everybody wanted to. Wanted to be the dope boy.

[Deontay Kyle]

He wanted riding around in foreign cars, throwing money out. Just throwing it out the car. They just throwing it out the car.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I think it also became club culture became ruined because sometimes when you show people the best of everything, they now think that they're worthy of it. And I'm not saying you're not worthy of it, but sometimes life will show you that you not.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it just ain't your time.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And it ain't. It's not. Also, this is not for you. I'm not saying you're not worthy.

[Deontay Kyle]

No. But also, like, this ain't your lane, bro.

[Gigi LaFleur]

This ain't your name, bro. So what happens is when you see Dantron and I don't want to use Meech because, you know, this ain't his life no more. So I'm just using. When you see Dantron over there, in vip. And you see that he's got these women, yada, yada, yada, Trey, Marcel and Paul, them four dudes from Amazon, they now want what Meech got.

[Deontay Kyle]

But they not taking the risk that you're talking about.

[Gigi LaFleur]

But guess what, baby, that's not for you also too.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like in 10 years, you might still be at Amazon. In 10 years, he gonna be in prison or dead.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So yeah, of course that's not for you, but he getting real high highs. But his low is gonna be low as fuck.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I also think that just because, like, what happens is them four men that work at Amazon, they now idolize Dantron sitting up there. They want the women that Dantron got. They want the access and the privilege and all that stuff that comes with Dantron. So now they're not paying any attention to the, to, to the girls out there because they want these girls up here. And now they're pining after these girls. Those girls are for you all over.

[Deontay Kyle]

What a another got you don't want.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Those girls aren't for you.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's 15 women, right?

[Gigi LaFleur]

They're not for you. Go over here, sir, and get this.

[Deontay Kyle]

Actually, they getting paid to be there. Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Go over here and get these girls, girl. And now it used to be everybody wanted to be the regular people and we just knew who the dope boys was. It's.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, Big Meats did like glorify the drill.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It shifted and. And I feel like drug culture has always had a. Not, not a place. But there's always been a area carved out because.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, it's always been like, it's been. It's like the most known unknown.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's the underworld. There's always underworld to every.

[Deontay Kyle]

We know it's there, but it's like we not all involved in it. So for those who are involved, they, they do their thing. For those who not. We don't mix worlds, right?

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's. It's an underworld. Every culture has an underworld. This just happens to be the underworld of our culture. Sometimes I feel like the drug dealer had a place and we knew who he was. Everybody, you know, you dealt with it.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was a weird thing. It was a high school thing too, where you knew like some people is going in this direction and some people, you know, you know what I'm saying?

[Gigi LaFleur]

But he had his place.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

The town knew who he was. He did stuff for the town. Everybody had a love hate relationship with it. But he stayed in his lane. He never came into our world. Over time, it became that. His world became the regular world.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, that's. That's where I get fucked up.

[Gigi LaFleur]

His world became the regular world.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. You got to keep the underworld. Underworld, Right.

[Gigi LaFleur]

His world. Because you're never going to get rid of the underworld. I want people to get that out.

[Deontay Kyle]

There right now, like, where it has to exist. You're never gonna get rid of an underworld balance. If we just. We just have to understand that, like, it's a certain type of person that can go and do that and make it look good.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

And. And. And also, too, those people go and they do their time and they come home and they sell straight because that's like the cloth that they cut from, and it don't make it right. And maybe if they was exposed to something else and something different, they would excel at that as well. But it, like, you know, if they was. If they were the business majors or anything like that, but that's not the thing. The path that was afforded to them.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

And I think that we so far removed from that space now, it's like, bro, that ain't even something. That time has came and went, bro. There ain't gonna be no more big mitches.

[Gigi LaFleur]

The club culture is.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. That's all. Because it's all section culture. And your best bet now is just to go to find you a nice bar in the lounge and sit your. And kick your feet up.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Big Meech coming to Atlanta when he did at the time, it was. Which is crazy. It was really a perfect storm if you think about it. He showed up during a time and not.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Let me not even say Big Meech. It was a perfect storm that entertainment. Entertainment, drugs and. And the rise of the south all happened at one time.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And it was. It all piggybacked off of.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Because we got trap music in tandem with that, Right? Because we did. Because T I being, like, the pioneer of it. We quickly got Jeezy Gucci, Yo Gotti, and then BMF being in the midst of that Jeezy thing, it was like, bro, that shit was real crazy, actually. Crazy time.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It was a perfect storm.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, it was a perfect.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It was a perfect storm. It was a perfect storm because it was a great time to be the way you. One of the biggest. A big revolutionary point for people is when you take a group of people who don't feel seen and then you give them momentum. Atlanta is a big city in the South. Them having the motivation of having this underworld funding all of this, and a.

[Deontay Kyle]

Lot of businesses are thriving off of this.

[Gigi LaFleur]

A lot of Businesses are thriving off of it.

[Deontay Kyle]

A lot of culture is built out of it.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's built out of that.

[Deontay Kyle]

And that's something we really. I think that's. Black people have always been honest about how drug dealer culture does shift, regular culture, because.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Absolutely.

[Deontay Kyle]

We almost always try to follow what the drug dealers do. The issue that we're having now is we not following drug dealers. Because drug dealers actually did keep their fashion very obtainable, right? Maybe not like late 80s, but like late 90s, early 2000 drug dealers, their fashion was obtainable. It's just. It's not gonna look the same on you because you can't do it. You can't buy new white tees every day, right? You can buy a gas station white tee, but you can't buy the white tee with the tall tee tag on it every day. Them niggas can. You can't go Air Force One every day. They can, right? So they just look cleaner. But the, the, the clothing is obtainable, right? The issue with now is we are trying to obtain scammer shit. And you can't keep up with scammers.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Because it's not a real life.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's not.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's not a real life.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a fake life.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Same way with drug dealers.

[Deontay Kyle]

These niggas are literally. They are literally operating in the matrix, right? They. It's just numbers on the screen. So when they buy shit, it don't matter because it's not real.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's not real.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's not real. There's no work. It's just these needs to understand how to sneak in. Like Internet back doors. They're like cat burglars on the Internet. That's basically what it is. It's just the stakes get a little higher because they dealing with credit, but it's also like no wins and no losses, right? And then it's just like, okay, bro, like, how much designer can a have? Like how much can you have? And it's like. And doing what with it?

[Gigi LaFleur]

If you, if you really think about it, I think that a lot of the times. And this just kind of popped into my head. You can correct me if I'm wrong. I think that a lot of the times when we've had these big musical revolutions in the 80s, New York, hip hop, flourishing, crack.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, for sure.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Early 2000s, the south taking over. That was really the beginning of the opioid X pill.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is we getting out of, like, we getting out. We getting into like, we getting out of like hand to hand crack dealers, drug booms. Yeah, we getting out of hand to hand crack dealers and we get into the wholesale cocaine business. Then we get introduced to pills. Like, pills Gucci, man. Like, yeah, Gucci man.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Definitely Gucci. Black people didn't take pills. We did not take pills. Was not a thing that black people did. And I'm, and I'm. I'm willing to stand on that and say for a long time the black community did not take pills.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, I think because of crack, black people just weren't experimental with drugs.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Well, we're not re.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, we. I'm.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We take fashion risk, but like life.

[Deontay Kyle]

Risk, the weed and we good, cuz I done seen what risk get right. What's up, Kyron? You loud, brother. You. You good? Yeah. All right.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Sometimes drug culture. Drug culture funds businesses. People don't realize that when, when the mafia is doing things wrong and they're funding it back into the community, everybody's oh, more poorly. So nobody has that same thing.

[Deontay Kyle]

But there's no but there's no, there's no apparent culture coming out of what they do. Because, yeah, the thing is, like, black people are unique in the sense of like, time and space really don't matter to us. It's about the, like, it's the now. This is what we're doing right now. So the reason why people can capitalize on our culture is cause we're like.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Our sense of urgency.

[Deontay Kyle]

We'll start shitting, discard it. Like that's old news, bro. And they'll look at it like, oh, af. Like, just AF is like something. Well, we could trademark this. We can do. Of course, ain't thinking about that. It's like, bro, this is how we talk.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Like, because we live in survival mode. Most of us live in survival mode. We don't have time to. And I'm not, I'm not going to lump us all in, but a good portion of of us are trying to make it to tomorrow. So we don't have time to invest into six years from now when I can't tell you what's going to happen.

[Deontay Kyle]

Six weeks.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah, six weeks, to be honest, have time. And when you live in a sense of urgency, it's the most expensive life. Because sense of urgency costs more.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, it's just you and you're in a constant state of stress.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah, sense of urgency costs more than longevity. A person who has money to go and buy 18 pack of toilet paper, it's gonna cost you less than that person who only had the money to buy one roll.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's, that's A fact.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So it's. It's expensive.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's a really good way to put that.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That's expensive to be poor.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, it is.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And sometimes being poor, it's expensive to be poor, and it's too expensive to get out of it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, then also too think about, like, think about not having money and overdrafting.

[Gigi LaFleur]

The fact that you're charging me for being poor is insane.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, no, but you finna charge me more.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah. You're charging me to be poor.

[Deontay Kyle]

I overdrafted $3.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You know I don't have this money.

[Deontay Kyle]

If I don't pay you back them $3 in 24 hours.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You charged me 35.

[Deontay Kyle]

$35, bitch.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That's crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're charging me. I didn't have the three to get even.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You knew I was broke.

[Deontay Kyle]

You $32 too high.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That's crazy to me that you knew I was broke.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know, man. I think that poor people. Poor people, black people really have a way of, like, not letting poverty define us. We gonna find a way we know how to make, like, really, really make something out of nothing.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I think black people have. This may ruffle some feathers, but I'm gonna. I feel like black people have revolutionized poverty and made it look so cool that people think we like it.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, I ain't gonna lie.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I think that black people have made poverty look so cool that people think we like it. Bro, we don't like it. We just making the best of it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Even the trauma that come from it. Aspire to it, like, want to be a tough. You don't realize this ain't tough. This just watch his daddy die and his mama on drugs and, like, his life. That nigga traumatized, got ptsd. He ain't tough, but he got a friend. And to the point where a nigga could grow up in a home like this and aspire to be from the project.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's because, unfortunately, people think that blackness is tied to poverty. They think that black. The black experience is being poor. That's why when you have others who equate poverty to being black. Oh, I don't have any privilege. I grew up poor.

[Deontay Kyle]

Why the.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Do you think because you've been broke that you know what it feels like to be black? No, you don't. You've just been poor.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, I think that. I think that they. I think those people that say they're just liars. You just like cutting.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I think, like I said, we've made poverty look so. We've made poverty look so easy. And so cool that they think that it's.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, we just are cool. You not gonna take the cool. You're not gonna take the rhythm. Yeah. You're not gonna take the rhythm out of black people's steps. You're not gonna keep black people quiet, I think.

[Gigi LaFleur]

But we're always gonna be too loud.

[Deontay Kyle]

When we were never in the hurt also. And you never gonna stop us from being creative. So we're gonna find ways to express. And it's just as much as you're going to have somebody that is going to be critical of America, you're gonna have somebody that celebrate that neighborhood.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Correct.

[Deontay Kyle]

And both things exist. And I, I think that you get into glorification when you got record labels pretty much creating a blueprint for what our music should be.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

And, and they putting it in a spreadsheet. This, this does well. And this does.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And they got a checklist.

[Deontay Kyle]

And they got a checklist. And these words have to be mentioned. And this is the subject matter.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And you're going to tell me black and.

[Deontay Kyle]

And you're going to tell me black.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Why don't you just. Can you, you know, urban it up a little? What you mean?

[Deontay Kyle]

Can you nigger it up for me?

[Gigi LaFleur]

Can you urban it up? Well, like, when you say it, can you be like, you know, yeah, sis.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, I think, I don't think that. But see, this is another thing too is like, I do feel like, honestly, we finna see it happen.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Blackness is a commodity that's sold.

[Deontay Kyle]

We're gonna see it via tick tock.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Oh, you mean, you mean aave? That's now called social media. Gen Z language.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah. No, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about we finishing another like, cultural renaissance of like, black expression. Because we are seeing black people be authentically themselves and not these tropes, but you also seeing black people's minds for the first time exist outside of something that's being bought and paid for.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Correct.

[Deontay Kyle]

So this is why me and you link up. Because this is how we know we act anyway, right? We know we can get just as ignorant or intelligent as we want to. Like we have those directions that we could pivot into.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I can have a Frasier Crane conversation with you or, you know, we can have a Kodak black conversation conversation.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I mean, ain't because wasn't wearing creative recreations to the club, but I was. You know what I'm saying? Hey, look, I do want to pivot into the, into our top five because I'm interested Let's do it. So we. We got the top five Southern producers.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Top five Southern producers.

[Deontay Kyle]

But I got a litmus test first.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Litmus test. Let's see.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Let's see it. Tear up your car insurance bill.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's not that. It's not that ass. Yeah. How many know this ad? All right, hold on, hold on. It's a little lit, Ms. Tess.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Where we at? Right by leaving churches. Okay. I used to walk around that corner Ride a flip wood back at bed Shouted with a hundred pounds of good I was trapping like a fool Me and that fool kept that tool didn't go to school I was trapping like a. I sold a lot of bricks I hear a lot of licks I really don't give a About a puss ass A pussy ass hoe this Gucci man FL my chain look like rainbow shouting Looking at me I think the monkey. I think you going right. We f to get into that top five, top five, top five Southern producers. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, we back. Top five, top five, top five, Five Southern producers. I'm gonna pop this thing off. Big cat. You got something for it. All right, all right, all right. I'm gonna go first. At five, I got Zaytoven. At four, I go Jermaine Dupree. At three, Manny Fresh. At two, I got For Real. So one gotta be Timberland. Timberland.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We back. Damn. That's a great list. I like that list.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a great list.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That's a phenomenal. I. I like your list. That's a great list. I would throw. I would throw Ricky Prince on that. And I'm sorry, why do I keep.

[Deontay Kyle]

Saying call him J Prince? Ricky.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I keep calling him Ricky Prince. I went school with the dude name Prince. I would say. I would say J Prince. I would throw him on there because it's essential. He's put out so much that you. You have to respect that. I also feel like Uncle Luke has to be on there. Is that too far back?

[Deontay Kyle]

But producer, Producer.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Uncle Luke definitely does all the productions. Is he not?

[Deontay Kyle]

I think Jerry Pistol is just like a money man.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Is he just a goon out here?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He telling what to do.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Okay, that's different. So, yeah, I will put Scott Storch like that. Scott needs to be on there. Juicy Jay being left out. Juicy J being left out always bothers me. Juicy J being left out of the conversations of one of the greatest producers ever in life.

[Deontay Kyle]

Juicy J is one of the ones.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Will always bother me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Carved out his Own lane. Him and DJ Paul.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Absolutely, absolutely. I feel like I'm leaving somebody out. Zaytoven on there is phenomenal. My God, that amazing. Do you know the work that a man that gave us? And nobody mentions him. They should.

[Deontay Kyle]

Zaytoven is a pillar.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Mouse on the track. Mouse on the track doesn't get the credit that he deserves.

[Deontay Kyle]

He gave us a lot of hits, though.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Mouse on the track done gave us a whole lot of songs. A whole lot of songs. It's a lot of songs that when you think of Louisiana, I promise you Mouse is probably in that room on there some kind of way. If most of the tracks that we absolutely adore from that 2008, 2007 era, he was on them. He gave them to us. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, we got some heat down here.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Who you got.

[Deontay Kyle]

Here?

[Gigi LaFleur]

Who you got?

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, all right. Big catch, top five, I got at number five, I got Rico eight.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Oh, man. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

At number four, at number four, I got Jermaine Dupree. Yeah. And number three, I got Manny Fresh. And number two, I got For Real. Number one is a shocker.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Who?

[Deontay Kyle]

Kanye West. Okay, wait, what was he born what was he born in? Douglasville. But he grew up in Chicago, right? Give a damn. What does birth certificate say? What does birth certificate say? I don't give a damn.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Born, born and from not the same, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

Came born and from not the same that left. He left Georgia when he was three, bro. Come on, dog.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Born and from is not the south.

[Deontay Kyle]

Does not claim crazy like that. That crazy.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We got plenty of it down here. But, but he's dead. He belongs to Chicago.

[Deontay Kyle]

We can't steal n that Chicago crazy.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We can't steal that from people. We can't steal that saying.

[Deontay Kyle]

Kanye is crazy. But he was born in Duganville.

[Gigi LaFleur]

But yeah, Jamaica Dupree definitely needs to be on that list.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah. He, he, he, yeah, he one of the ones. I, I, we could wrap this with a Southern hip hop. Mount Rushmore.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Mount Rushmore. Hip hop.

[Deontay Kyle]

It got to be solo artist, so. Okay, solo artist has to be solo artist. That's tough. Not really. It is.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It's tough, bro. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think all Southern parties, a lot of Southern.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So let me ask you this. When we put this.

[Deontay Kyle]

We gotta have some metrics to it.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Let's, let's put some parameters down.

[Deontay Kyle]

I got, I got two. I got two. I got three as a lock.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Who your three? Go ahead, let me hear your three.

[Deontay Kyle]

Scarface. Okay. Lil Wayne.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

TI Okay.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I won't argue with you about that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now that number four spot.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So do you think.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't gonna lie. False fight. Tough.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Who you gonna put?

[Deontay Kyle]

Because you can't just throw Dre in there. If you ain't gonna throw out. If you ain't gonna throw, you gotta throw the whole outcast.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Correct. Who would you put? Okay, I'm gonna agree with you on the way.

[Deontay Kyle]

Tempted to say future, bro. I ain't gonna lie.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'm gonna agree with you on the Wayne. I'm gonna agree with you, but not Mount Russia on the ti.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, Scarface. Scarface, definitely.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So you're. You'd put scar. I love Scarface. You said solo artist, so you're right. But. But okay, listen, are you judging?

[Deontay Kyle]

Fourth spot is tough.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah, this. This is. This is. This is tough. This is tough. I feel like Jeezy's got to be up there, but then at the same time, I feel like if I put Jeezy up there. And let me just say this. I feel like not including Gucci. And this is insane. And I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. Most people don't include Gucci because they don't feel like he's lyrical enough. But I feel like you can't disregard the fact that this man ushered in error. A whole era. Let me not say era. An era. A ten year run of phenomenal mixtapes.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know though, but see, you got an argument there too for juvenile.

[Gigi LaFleur]

This is. This is tough, man. This is tough.

[Deontay Kyle]

That fourth spot, I got three at a lock because you got to put Wayne in there.

[Gigi LaFleur]

This is tough.

[Deontay Kyle]

TI T and Scarface.

[Gigi LaFleur]

And then I also feel away because something. Something from Three six Mafia's gotta be on there.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was gonna say it could be Project Pat, but I'm gonna say nobody's favorite.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Who. See, that's. That's another.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's a solid career, man. That's a solid career, bro.

[Gigi LaFleur]

But okay, let me ask you this. Do you think that Ross had an era, though? Because when I think of an era, I think that you had.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ross would get. Always get drowned out in the. In the. He got. But he also got drowned out by associating himself with DJ Khaled because Khaled liked to put all these different artists right.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I don't feel like Ross had. Don't get me wrong. Rings on every finger. Ross has Ross tough, bro, but I don't think Ross.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know, man. Ross is a great argument. Ross tough.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He is tough, but I don't think he had an Era, though. Gucci had an era. Wayne had an era. Jeezy had an era. TI had an era. To what? Wanted to be them. I. Nobody wants to be.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't gonna lie, though. This is why people do want to.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Be the fat black dude.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, this is why I say. This is why I say. This is why I say juvenile.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I feel like Ross had a run, but I don't feel like he had an error.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is why I say juvenile. He made Southern hip hop polarizing.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He made it cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, that hot video and following the hot video up would back that ass up, showing you he can exist in both worlds. He made the hip. He made Southern hip hop polarizing. Like, oh, we need to see what we need to hear out what more of these talking about. Okay, I would say this if we consider. If we consider Missouri, the South, I would put Nelly in there.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Do you consider Missouri?

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I do not.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hold on. But we could talk about Ludacris, too. I ain't gonna lie as much as I be. As much as I be throwing salt on Ludacris. That had a solid career. Solid album.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Have a solid career.

[Deontay Kyle]

And he's a great rapper.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He is. And see, I don't. I can. Do you consider him a rapper or a lyricist? I have this. I have this debate back and forth.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ludicrous is a lyricist for sure.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So what are you.

[Deontay Kyle]

But he's a. But he. But this is the difference between Ludacris and most lyricist. He know when to turn it on and when to turn it off. Most people don't. He know how to go make a hit, and then he come do a feature and he gonna tear your ass up. That be the problem. Be sleeping on, bro. They think he gonna come on a feature and talk, talk some fun shit. He just start biting niggas heads off.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He's been so almost like. And I don't want to make it seem like it's not a bad. I think Ludacris has been so animated.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's very commercial.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Like a Buster Rhymes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Of the South.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, he's very. Yeah, he's very commercial, though.

[Gigi LaFleur]

New York embraced Buster for being animated, I think the south kind of held it against Ludicrous at a point. For being. When he came out, he was very animated. But I think that once it became, like you said, commercial, I think.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think. I think he came out very Southern and animated. And then when he did that number one spot was like, oh, he gone.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I think I think it became almost like childish to him back again. And they was. They was. They. They held it against them like they. They held him in high regard for doing it. And then in a split second. Oh, nah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

You n. I was one of them too. I was like, man, I don't know what this doing.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I. I think that ludicrous is extremely.

[Deontay Kyle]

We can. We can say Ross. We could put Ross in there because.

[Gigi LaFleur]

But do you think Ross is Mount Rushmore worthy, though? That's the thing. Mount Rushmore holding your own and Mount Rushmore ain't the same.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, but he actually, he. He has out rap Wayne, on certain songs too. Also, too.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You never had a bad feature from Ross.

[Deontay Kyle]

I can't think of one.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know. That fourth spot is tough. I think the first three is a clear lock. So we're so Scarface. Wayne, TI. If we could include groups, and we're just doing. If we could include groups, then the argument is really between three, six Mafia and Outkast.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So I think three. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Whoa, whoa. Three six Mafia and Outcast. Southern hip hop.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm going go. Outcast is being more influential than 366. I don't know, man. Cuz the crunk sound kind of derives from.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I think I. I think that.

[Deontay Kyle]

And the boys got a Grammy for, man.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I think. And this might be wrong, but I think Lil John did more for Atlanta. I think Little John did more for Atlanta than Outkast. And I'm not saying that Outcast didn't do great things because the south definitely got something to say. But I think that Le John brought the party aspect to it, which was, again, storm. It was the perfect storm for what was already going on in Atlanta. They were trying to become a huge entertainment.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, but. But Outcast definitely got that ball rolling.

[Gigi LaFleur]

They got the ball rolling. Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

But, man. But Lil Jon, how do we. I think the only. I think the only way Lil John.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Had a real era.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think the only way we can really do this is to go Ross, because we go Texas, Louisiana, Georgia, Florida. Oh, we're bugging, not putting.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We're bugging, not putting JCole. I wouldn't put JCole on Mount Rushmore if his goddamn mama bought the fucking mountain. I wouldn't put that Rushmore. I wouldn't put that nigga on the Mount Rushmore if he paid for the shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

The reason why we didn't think about him is because he don't belong there. I ain't gonna lie. I probably put Pusha T on there before I put J Cole on there.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Are you fucking kidding me? Why are y'all putting that nigga up there?

[Deontay Kyle]

Who?

[Gigi LaFleur]

Pusha T. I love put. And I listen.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a lot of love. It's a lot of pushback on his love.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I listen, listen. Pusha T is great.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think we could. No, I'm just. I'm just. I just. I'm starting to think. I'm starting to think. I'm really just starting to think lyricist grinding. No, I'm just starting to think lyricist. But I think. I think Ross is the correct answer.

[Gigi LaFleur]

For the Mount Rushmore.

[Deontay Kyle]

It has to be.

[Gigi LaFleur]

It has to be Ross over Gucci.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Here's the issue I have with Gucci, okay? It's a. It's a. It's a volume of mixtapes. It's a great volume of mixtapes tapes. A lot of those mixtapes got the same songs on them. A lot of them is filled up.

[Gigi LaFleur]

That's true. That is true. I will give you that. Let me tell you something that Rick Ross does that kind of grinds my gears. You're not gonna. Liberace rings on every finger meat on every song.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's what he do, though.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You're not gonna. You're not gonna. Don't.

[Deontay Kyle]

With 22.

[Gigi LaFleur]

You're not gonna. You're not gonna. What is this Mayback music?

[Deontay Kyle]

That shit hard. That shit hard. Hey. That shit hard. If he'll let me license that bitch, I drop that every. Every podcast.

[Gigi LaFleur]

What is this Maybach music? Music.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's one of the hardest tags of all time.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Because that album, it was phenomenal.

[Deontay Kyle]

Think about from Port of Miami.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Port of Miami was stellar. He has a great body of work. But did he have an era also, too?

[Deontay Kyle]

Rick Ross will always give you a hit. And Rick Ross will always give you a song that just sound like opulence. He did have an error. No, he did have an era from, like. Oh, I think it was, like, I would say, like, 2010 to 2012, 2014. When he was really. When he was with that girl lyrical or he was dropping some heat, right? And the visuals was crazy.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So Rick Ross definitely does give you Vegas luxury. He gives you. He gives you. I'm not. He gives you Miami vacation. Right. He definitely gives you Port of Miami.

[Deontay Kyle]

But Porter. Miami is like a classic hip hop album too. But Port of Miami is a great. That's. That's the way. That's a great way to start your career.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Phenomenal. Way to start your career. Phenomenal. Sidebar. Has nothing to do with nothing. I think that Rick Ross coming out with Porter, Miami and Gorillazo coming out at the same time kind of hurt him.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hustling is crazy. Yeah. It's only room. Room for one fat, right?

[Gigi LaFleur]

I think Gorillazo came out at the wrong time because he came out during the Rick Ross thing. He kind of got swept up in. In the fat swag. If he had just came out earlier or later, he could have been something.

[Deontay Kyle]

I also don't think, like, Hood was the best song, but whatever. People like that. I ain't like it.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So. Remember how we discussed it? We love a chant.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. I mean, that's. No for that time. Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We love a chant. We love a chant.

[Deontay Kyle]

I really was more. I was really more into the law school. This is my. I love that goddamn song, bro. Huh? Hell of a life. Yeah.

[Gigi LaFleur]

The fact that y'all know more Gorillazo songs.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, Gorillazo had a run.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Agree.

[Deontay Kyle]

And Gucci had a Georgia song on that. The movie Mixtape Hard. Grizzo had a little spot like he was working his spot. It's just that boy Ross, man, he just kind of.

[Gigi LaFleur]

He got swept up in the.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ross is the fat boy. You know what I'm saying?

[Gigi LaFleur]

Yeah, he's the. You know, he's the premier fat for downtown.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then also too. It's like it. And then him being next to Diddy, it kind of gave a Biggie vibe. And then first of all, I do judge rappers like, if you can. If you can always get a J feature, you doing something. If you can always get that J feature, you doing something. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, I think Ross go for you think Ross go.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Okay, I'm.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'mma give you that.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I don't agree. Yeah, I don't agree.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gucci over there.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I. I feel that. I feel that Gucci had a stronger error than. Than Ross did down south. I know more that say throw that Gucci on than I knew that say throw that Ross on.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're right. I mean, I can see that.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Just like how I agree. I. I never should say this. That I agree with Booy, but I agree with Booy when he say like don't never. Don't say throw that Jay Z on like that down here. I hear people say it, but I've heard more people say throw on such and such.

[Deontay Kyle]

It depend. But see, it's also like Jay Z, Jay Z make the type of music. Music for Jay Z makes music for the individual. All the greats do. All the greats make music. It's for you. It's the first certainty, it's not for the car. Yeah. It's not for. You know what I'm saying?

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'm a car music person.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like ain't riding around listening to a moment of clarity. You can't do that. You can't do that. Somebody gonna get depressed when you're in the house and you cooking or something. Yeah, that's it. You run that black album.

[Gigi LaFleur]

So I did, listen, I did ride around to the blueprint. I love, I definitely run around, listen to the blueprint. So I'm, I'm, I am a car riding person. I want music that I can ride to, but when I go in the house, I want cleanup music, trap house festivals. But I wanna, I wanna boom and book this dope up out the dough off the dirt. I wanna, I wanna get this dirt up at this trap house. That's how I clean up.

[Deontay Kyle]

That makes sense though, right?

[Gigi LaFleur]

I had to rest that again.

[Deontay Kyle]

We can reconvene. We can reconvene on spot four. Yeah, we have to come back to spot.

[Gigi LaFleur]

We can reconvene.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think, I think I'm pretty solidified. And we just. You just gonna have to disagree.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'm gonna let y'all have it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, look, Gigi, I really do appreciate you coming.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I appreciate you having me.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what? I. I know that, I know that we got to stop it now because I could, we could literally do this all day.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I'm telling you, you. I got a million.

[Deontay Kyle]

But, but also open door policy.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Hey, I'll come back.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I really do. And we, and we need some real, like, we really need to nerd out some EP if we really want to nerd out. That's what the Patreon for.

[Gigi LaFleur]

Hey, I'm all about nerd now. On some episodes, I'm all for it. I am. I am all for it.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then if you ever have a show in Atlanta, let me know.

[Gigi LaFleur]

I do.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. If you want to plug your stuff.

[Gigi LaFleur]

One more time before we March six, you can catch me at Uptown Comedy Corner. On March 6th, I'm also going to be in Dallas. I'll give you a list. Here we go. March 6th, Uptown Comedy Corner in Atlanta. On March 20th, I'm going to be in Detroit at Punchlines. March 23rd, I will be at Hyenas, Dallas, Texas. And on the 28th of March, I'll be in North Little Rock at the Nut house. So please, you can check me out on Gigi the Flair dot com. You can see all my show dates. I'll be in D.C. baltimore. Check out the website that I may be in a city near you. And if I'm not in your city, please make sure that you reach out to your local clubs and tell them I was the book man. Cause I'll come. I'll come check you out. We back.

[Deontay Kyle]

Go buy them tickets on gigglefell.com. this is episode 51. I'm Deontay Kyle. Who's behind the camera? Big ice club cat. All right, man, we're gonna catch y'all next time.