Episode 70 - Environmental Racism

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast: Episode 70 - Environmental Racism

Release Date: June 3, 2025
Host: Deontay Kyle
Description: Deontay Kyle raw and unfiltered. Talking pop culture, current events, conspiracies, and anything else he can think of.

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1. Opening Banter and Product Promotion (00:00 - 01:21)

The episode begins with a lighthearted exchange between Deontay Cabba and Big Cat, discussing men's deodorant. Deontay humorously mentions:

"Ladies, you'll end up shopping for your guy's deodorant. Right." [00:00]

They promote Degree's Original Cool Rush, highlighting its return after consumer demand:

"Degree Cool Rush is back, and it smells like victory." [00:28]

This segment serves as a humorous segue into the podcast's main content.

2. Celebrating Achievements and Awards (07:22 - 11:02)

Deontay shares a heartfelt moment celebrating the podcast’s recent accomplishments. He expresses pride in their consistency and teamwork, particularly praising Tristan for his editing work:

"It's time to clean the house... Shout out to Tristan, the Black Samurai." [08:44]

They acknowledge reaching significant milestones, such as their first 100k YouTube views and receiving the AAMBC Literary Award:

"We cracked 100k on YouTube thanks to you." [09:00]

The hosts discuss upcoming events like the BIA Award Show and their plans to attend mixers, emphasizing the importance of community recognition and support.

3. Environmental Racism Discussion (32:25 - 43:45)

Shifting to the episode's primary topic, Deontay delves into environmental racism, using Elon Musk's supercomputer project in South Memphis as a case study:

"Environmental racism is a form of institutional racism in which people of color bear a disproportionate burden of environmental harms." [32:26]

He explains how the supercomputer's water usage is threatening Memphis' renowned aquifer, leading to both air and water pollution:

"They brag about their water, how good it is, and there's constant threats to that water." [32:40]

Deontay connects this modern example to historical instances like Africatown in Mobile, Alabama, highlighting a persistent pattern of industrialization and pollution disproportionately affecting Black communities.

4. Systemic Issues and Community Impact (43:45 - 74:43)

The conversation broadens to address systemic challenges faced by Black communities, including over-policing, mass incarceration, and the decline of essential programs like Job Corps:

"Job Corps is free, but Trump is cutting funding, which is a blow because it's essential for people seeking trades." [26:31]

Deontay emphasizes the importance of economic control within the Black community, likening collective spending power to a bank:

"When we control where we spend, we see how much power we have." [25:01]

He discusses the long-term health and mental effects of environmental racism, sharing a personal story about his uncle developing cancer due to pollution:

"My uncle developed cancer. He's 38. That's that fucking plant." [41:38]

The hosts critique capitalist practices that prioritize profit over community well-being, using Elon Musk’s project as an example of harmful, unfettered capitalism:

"Elon is capitalizing by any means necessary, no matter who's affected by it." [90:59]

5. Personal Stories and Listener Engagement (74:43 - 101:04)

Deontay and Big Cat engage with listener voicemails, addressing personal struggles and offering advice. One caller, Ray, seeks guidance on becoming educated as a Black man in today’s America. Deontay responds by emphasizing confidence and the importance of articulating one’s knowledge:

"Confidence comes from repetition. Engage in conversations to build your intellectual confidence." [90:59]

Another listener, Tate, asks how to leverage the podcast platform to support Black youth. Deontay reassures him, highlighting the impact of small, consistent efforts:

"Small little things... One child at a time." [102:57]

6. Addressing Relationship Dynamics and Societal Pressure (83:00 - 88:37)

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing the challenges of maintaining healthy relationships amidst societal pressures. Deontay critiques the trend of men creating "broken homes" through infidelity and unintended pregnancies, using examples like Cam Newton and Naomi Osaka:

"Men are getting girls pregnant to keep a string on them. A baby ain't never saved a relationship from nothing." [70:54]

He reflects on his own upbringing, detailing how his parents' divorce impacted him and underscoring the importance of stable family structures for child development:

"Seeing the decline in my parents' relationship took a toll on me." [55:51]

7. Empowerment and Community Building (88:37 - 107:22)

Deontay and Big Cat conclude the episode by reinforcing the need for unity and proactive community involvement. They celebrate individual successes and encourage listeners to continue supporting one another:

"Fix one house at a time... play the long game with good." [102:57]

Deontay shares personal anecdotes about overcoming hardships and stresses the importance of maintaining confidence and resilience:

"You can't undervalue yourself. Go get your money, bro." [90:59]

8. Final Remarks and Call to Action (107:22 - End)

In the closing segments, Deontay reiterates the podcast’s commitment to addressing critical issues affecting the Black community, promoting initiatives like supporting Justin Ellis Brooks’ efforts to feed the homeless:

"If we can get 10,000 listeners to give $1, that'll help him feed a thousand people." [106:46]

He encourages ongoing engagement and participation, urging listeners to take actionable steps toward community improvement.

Notable Quotes and Timestamps

• Deontay Cabba at [07:35]: "But we showed improved, you know what I'm saying? We proved our credit."
• Big Cat at [16:33]: "I ain't never seen black people on time for anything."
• Deontay Cabba at [25:01]: "It's the most successful black boycott since the 70s."
• Deontay Cabba at [32:26]: "Environmental racism is a form of institutional racism in which people of color bear a disproportionate burden of environmental harms."
• Deontay Cabba at [70:54]: "A baby ain't never saved a relationship from nothing."
• Deontay Cabba at [102:57]: "Fix one house at a time... play the long game with good."

Conclusion

Episode 70 of the Grits and Eggs Podcast offers a deep dive into environmental racism, interwoven with personal stories and community-focused discussions. Deontay Kyle and Big Cat provide a candid exploration of systemic issues, the importance of economic empowerment, and the impact of familial stability on individual well-being. Through engaging dialogue and listener interactions, the episode underscores the necessity of unity, resilience, and proactive efforts in addressing and overcoming the challenges faced by the Black community.

For more insights and actionable strategies, listeners are encouraged to engage with the host via email and support community initiatives highlighted throughout the episode.

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Stay connected with Grits and Eggs Podcast by visiting deontaykyle.com for merch, Patreon access, and more information on upcoming events and initiatives.

Transcript

[Deontay Cabba]

Ladies, you'll end up shopping for your guy's deodorant. Right.

[Big Cat]

So try Degree's Original Cool Rush. You see, last year, Degree changed the.

[Deontay Cabba]

Formula and men were mad. One guy even started a petition so Degree admitted they messed up and brought.

[Big Cat]

The original Cool Rush scent back.

[Deontay Cabba]

It's clean, crisp, and actually smells like someone you want to cuddle. And it's in Walmart, Target and other.

[Big Cat]

Stores now for under $4.

[Deontay Cabba]

So toss one in your cart and.

[Big Cat]

Find out why it's the best selling.

[Deontay Cabba]

Men'S antiperspirant for the last decade.

[Big Cat]

Degree Cool Rush is back.

[Deontay Cabba]

And it smells like victory. Yeah. Woke up in the morning and to.

[Big Cat]

God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my.

[Deontay Cabba]

Opinions in the universe and let them.

[Big Cat]

Orbit I'm from the dirty soul with a dirty mouth my knee orbit miss things things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my no rest fusion she gorgeous As I dab my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead tell them we gonna get this money to my pocke morbid Remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't got to like a regardless baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me. We like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee flick your cigarette and let a vent yeah, we back.

[Deontay Cabba]

Oh, we back. Grist and eggs podcast, episode 70. I'm your host, Deontay Cabba, who's behind.

[Big Cat]

The camera ready to knock a out, cat.

[Deontay Cabba]

All right, calm down.

[Big Cat]

All right, My bad. It's a big ice cup, cat. Man.

[Deontay Cabba]

Why. Why you really. Why you really knock somebody out, man?

[Big Cat]

Just online talking.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, man, yeah. Hey, man, it's free promotion, man. It's free marketing now.

[Big Cat]

It is still ready to knock a out, though.

[Deontay Cabba]

I ain't mad at you, cuz. I ain't going to lie. Don't come like that in person. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't it don't it be love.

[Big Cat]

It do.

[Deontay Cabba]

It be love. So. Hey, man, we just pardon, man. Yeah, we just pardon, man.

[Big Cat]

That's true.

[Deontay Cabba]

You know what it is, bro? I'm gonna tell you what it is. The bulk of the podcast has been us warning the people that's in our house about the people that's outside the house.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

True.

[Deontay Cabba]

But then we turned around like, we like, okay, we established that enemy outside and then we turned around and look at the people in the house like. And we need to get our shit together too. That's when everybody left yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's time to clean the house.

[Deontay Cabba]

It's like niggas are desperate for like, say something bad about women. It's like, bro, how many platforms do y' all have? Like, first of all, all the niggas who have, like, who calling me a panderer? Who saying I don't get bitches? Who doing all these we don't even need to address? First of all.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no. First of all, you got a 13.

[Deontay Cabba]

Year old.

[Big Cat]

Finna be damn near high school.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah. Maybe be 14 in a few months.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Deontay Cabba]

I mean, I got three kids.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. If you're not getting pussy, then who is?

[Deontay Cabba]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

God damn.

[Deontay Cabba]

First of all, like, come on, Kane, look at me. Kane. You know that's it was a lie when you said it. Yeah, you lying to yourself. But all the dudes that be saying shit like this, what about women? They listen to content about niggas talking shit about women all day. So like why do I gotta do that too?

[Big Cat]

That's what they like to hear.

[Deontay Cabba]

They love it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Make em feel good. Yes.

[Deontay Cabba]

Fuck these bitches.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

It's disgusting, man. It is. But it's just online talk. Hey man, you know, hopefully you go viral. Best case scenario, you put my name in your mouth. Got another man name in mouth. Grown man, by the way.

[Big Cat]

Amen.

[Deontay Cabba]

But [e-mail] deontayantaykyle.com for all advice. Submissions. Music submissions. New new music Monday. I mean we mentioned it before, but God damn, it's going crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean for four we had three people get five ice cups.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Never before two of them get four.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

And then a couple 3.5.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

A couple eighths in there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

But overall, great show.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, for sure.

[Deontay Cabba]

Catch big cats on the ones and twos.

[Big Cat]

Doing a lot of Dax dropping bombs on them.

[Deontay Cabba]

Okay, 657234 eggs. That's 657-234-3447. Follow your call INS. We got a couple call INS. We're gonna read some emails today. Deontay Kyle.com for the merch. Oh, Gris, the next podcast on Patreon. Now look, this, this is what you get, all right? You're gonna go on deontay kyle.com you're gonna see something up the front that say cousin club at the top. You're going to click it, it's going to ask for a password. You know, get the password. Unless you give me $8. $8. Join that Patreon. And there's exclusive merch for the cousin club. We also drop two episodes a month on the Patreon. Just dropped one yesterday, matter of fact. And we do a live stream. We're going to start. We done figured out this. This Bluetooth shit. We're going to start taking some live calls. Yeah, now that's going to turn that shit up some. We're going to start taking some of these live calls. Yeah, man. So deontaycolle.com for merch. We done slimmed it down because we're gonna start doing some collaborations in the future. So we just keeping it simple, keeping it basic. Get you a Panda Express tee.

[Big Cat]

Get one of those.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, grab one of those and join the Patreon for $8. The gristy next podcast. All information is in the description. Mm. Award winning.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God. Drop another bomb Flex.

[Deontay Cabba]

Do the Knowledge. Do the Knowledge, nigga.

[Big Cat]

Do the Knowledge, nigga. Big, big ice cup. All the tags.

[Deontay Cabba]

We back, nigga.

[Big Cat]

Fuck you talking about?

[Deontay Cabba]

Now when you make the video about me, I want you to say, Deontay Kyle, host of the award winning Grits and Ass podcast.

[Big Cat]

That's what I want you to say for sure.

[Deontay Cabba]

BIA Award. Next. Next. But right now, that AAMBC literary award. Literary. Not just the regular one, the literary one. Award winners.

[Big Cat]

You did a clip.

[Deontay Cabba]

Keep that blick with me. Yeah, man. Oh, man. Hey, let's talk about that. How did. How did you feel when you found that note? When you found that out?

[Big Cat]

Man, I had tears in my eyes, to be honest.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because I was like, yo, a year strong. Just a year of being consistent and releasing content. And now we got an award.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah. Because I was talking to Tristan and I went back and looked and found the. Okay, so the first video that he really did for us was when we. When we first put him on the island.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Cabba]

That was the first time he edited. And so I was like, damn, Tristan, you've been. You've been editing for us for like a straight year. Just a couple weeks ago, right? And then I realized, like, now. Cause you remember, we was doing it, but we was, like, a little inconsistent. Cause sometimes every two weeks, every two weeks, it would take me a little while. Goddamn, edit this. And then I was still over the road and like that too, right? But boy, no, I went over the road. But I was.

[Big Cat]

You was.

[Deontay Cabba]

I was working that. That Hub group went on. Ho. Yeah, I'm f. You had me out there 14 hours a day. But yeah, when we got Tristan. Tristan is really the. That's how we got this going. Like, we got this really consistent. So shout out to Tristan, man. For sure. Papaya, Yasuke.

[Big Cat]

The Black Samurai.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, the Black Samurai. But shout out to him. But, yeah, bro, A year just. Hey, Every week.

[Big Cat]

Every week.

[Deontay Cabba]

Every week.

[Big Cat]

And we just had our first 100k views. Hey, episode.

[Deontay Cabba]

We cracked 100k on YouTube thanks to you. Shout out to the hater. Shout out to that hating shit. No, but shout out to the people that voted. Shout out to the people that watch consistently, right? That's been here since day one. Shout out to the people that was watching when we was only getting a thousand views.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

You know what I'm saying? Shout out to those who was here when we got 10,000 views and we was geeking in this bitch all the way to an award and everybody that voted, man, like, for real, bro. Gratitude, bro. That is crazy. For real. Like, who's in here popping bottles, you know?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, my boy hit us up with the crisp box. I had to leave the house after that. I had to go home. All right, Enough celebration.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, man. BIA Awards is next. The AA and BC award mixer. We will be in August. You know what I'm saying? We're gonna go. I don't know. How should we. Should we come, like, business?

[Big Cat]

Is it a mixer?

[Deontay Cabba]

It's a mixer. Yeah. Yeah. So I think this. The literary award part is it's more of a social media, online type award system.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Cabba]

Like, the Cookout Award is going to be. And I'm sure at the mixer they gonna present us with our awards and shit like that. Okay, but the BIA award show is October 15th. That's. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's the one. We gotta come.

[Deontay Cabba]

We gotta come. Pull up. They ain't gonna tell us. They ain't gonna tell us who won. You know what I'm saying? But that much? A lot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's a lot.

[Deontay Cabba]

If we get the literary one, we get.

[Big Cat]

We get that one. Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah. Go two for two for the year.

[Big Cat]

Two for two is crazy.

[Deontay Cabba]

Crazy. Best podcast in the game. Yeah, without a doubt.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

And we already know that feel like.

[Big Cat]

Feel like DMX in 99 when you dropped two albums. Double platinum. I feel like X in 99, son.

[Deontay Cabba]

Perform, nigga. Perform in front of the world. The world.

[Big Cat]

Just a sea of whites.

[Deontay Cabba]

A sea of whites. Never seen that many whites, huh?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Oh, that's how we gonna be.

[Big Cat]

That's how we gonna be. We get the war.

[Deontay Cabba]

I'm wearing. I'm wearing all red overalls. No sh. Oh, with the tail.

[Big Cat]

With the tail.

[Deontay Cabba]

I'm going crazy to.

[Big Cat]

To go up there and accept the war. We should never g these. Should never g these money play.

[Deontay Cabba]

How is it going down right now? Get the panties wet in this.

[Big Cat]

They go kick us out.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, okay.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Deontay Cabba]

United with healing Philly. Sold out. Let's just talk about it. Let's talk about an event being sold out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Put Deontay Kyle on your marquee. Yeah, the ticket's gonna fly.

[Big Cat]

Tickets is gone, baby.

[Deontay Cabba]

Now we're gonna. We're gonna connect that into something else. All right, but catch us. June 18th 20th, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Underground Arts, United Wheel Black Film Festival. We're watching some black films. Get you some tickets to the pregame party. Ooh, we still got tickets available for the after party. And guess who djing at the after party.

[Big Cat]

Let them know.

[Deontay Cabba]

Big Zach Fox. Yeah, Zach Fox gonna be on the ones and two.

[Big Cat]

Zack Fox.

[Deontay Cabba]

Zach Fox, nigga. Yeah, my slim twin.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's your twin. Yeah. Just a little slimmer than yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Shout out to the east side, nigga. Oh, my God.

[Big Cat]

He in the building.

[Deontay Cabba]

He from the day. He is.

[Big Cat]

He from the deck.

[Deontay Cabba]

Okay. All right. Speaking of selling tickets out, okay, we had a meet and greet. We did two shows.

[Big Cat]

Two. Both sold out in one day.

[Deontay Cabba]

One day.

[Big Cat]

A couple people came twice.

[Deontay Cabba]

Not first of all, crazy to come twice.

[Big Cat]

To come twice to present two tickets.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. To the same event. Fun back.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

I got a second ticket right, y' all. All right, first of all, that 9 to 12 crowd, that was like the. That was love. It was. We had such a good time. Shout out to the flower girls, man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

What's that? It's these two. It's. It's these two young women from Cincinnati. From Cincinnati. Cincinnati got some heat.

[Big Cat]

No, they made him like that.

[Deontay Cabba]

I ain't know they made him like that.

[Big Cat]

Shout out to the Natties.

[Deontay Cabba]

Shout out to the Reds.

[Big Cat]

Shout out to the Reds.

[Deontay Cabba]

A young lady, her name is Slim Fit S L I M M F I T, underscore. And her cousin Kyra Vaughn. K A K A R I, A H. Vaughn. But they are the flower girls. Yeah, they're a wellness company.

[Big Cat]

They bought the wellness. All right.

[Deontay Cabba]

They bought that wellness. Hey, look, one thing about me, I' ma celebrate.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you're going. You're definitely going to celebrate.

[Deontay Cabba]

I said, man, that man pass me to draw me five.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

One thing about me was in the back of the U Haul Getting turned.

[Big Cat]

Going crazy in the back of the U Haul.

[Deontay Cabba]

Good pie, good pie. Shout out to the flower girls, man. Follow the flower girls. So nine to 12, love.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Picture taken. I send Tristan everything. He can kind of make a little montage.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, just a lot of pitches, a.

[Deontay Cabba]

Lot of pictures, nigga just kissing, baby. Doing a lot of that. You know what I'm saying? Working on ones and two.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Deontay Cabba]

First of all, to plan something to create a flow, to create timestamps, really plan that shit down to the T and for it to be executed well. I mean, good job, brother. Shout out to the team, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the team for sure.

[Deontay Cabba]

Shout out to everybody that was involved because everybody came and they played a role.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Effectively. Like they did they shit.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Deontay Cabba]

So it's love to them. But that. That two to five. That two to five crowd.

[Big Cat]

Oh, boy, they turned. They.

[Deontay Cabba]

They was in the building, boy. First of all, the 9:12 crowd was buying a lot of alcohol at.

[Big Cat]

At 9:00.

[Deontay Cabba]

Oh, it's a bar.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Find me up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

You know what I'm saying? Auntie from Cascade.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Auntie was lit. The Queen of Cascade. Shout out to the Queen of Cascade.

[Deontay Cabba]

Dope back in the day.

[Big Cat]

No, she did. Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Moved a few pounds.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

She. She ain't with a girl.

[Big Cat]

Nah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Keep the weed.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she had the weed. Yeah, Auntie had the weed.

[Deontay Cabba]

The original flower girl. Yeah. But that. That two to. To go. Nine to 12 was perfect.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

And then we gave people 30 minutes to ease their way. I mean, we got a blueprint for if we're gonna do another one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

We know exactly how to do it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

I think I was right. 2100 people would have been way too much.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it would have been way.

[Deontay Cabba]

I felt it. I felt it. I was like, nah, we ain't doing that. Yeah, that two to five. First of all, they was getting there at one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

I told niggas to be early, right?

[Big Cat]

They was early.

[Deontay Cabba]

It was people out there, like 8, 15 for the first show.

[Big Cat]

I ain't never seen black people on time for anything.

[Deontay Cabba]

First of all, all the black people was on time. We had a couple of stragglers, you know what I'm saying? For the most part, Everybody was there. 98% of everybody came on time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Two to five crowd was turned. We was in there swag, surfing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

First of all, I was like, all right, now that the meet and greet party's over and we done, hey, if you want to buy me some Hennessy. Yeah, feel free. Niggas took me up on that offer. And you was drunk. And I got drunk and I told the nigga play bad boy by shine.

[Big Cat]

Oh, shibbidi.

[Deontay Cabba]

I was walking through the bitch signing shit. Shibbidi wabbity shibbidi wabity chibidi.

[Big Cat]

Woah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Then we had hit them with the swag surf. Yeah, that shit was fire, man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Shout out to the cousins, bruh. The cousins came through on that second show thick. They had their own table in the back. The young man that came from Minnesota, See, this is the thing, bro. We had young men and women in there. We had older men and women in there for sure. Parents, single. The whole spectrum, bro. And it was. People traveled ways to come, and we appreciate that. Like the love, bro. The love. Like that shit felt like a family reunion, for real. It did.

[Big Cat]

It did.

[Deontay Cabba]

We was in there having fun, bro. Black folks having a good time, laughing, enjoying theyself, great food. Shout out to the chef, man. Shout out to the chef. And shout out to Mr. Glover, man, for opening that space like, OG really did us a solid. You know what I'm saying? He did. That was love, bro.

[Big Cat]

And he was in there helping, pitching out, sweeping the floor.

[Deontay Cabba]

It makes sense why he own five locations.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Cause he'll get in and do the work, too. Be a real leader, bro. Yeah, man. Shout out to Mr. Glover. Shout out to the Grits and Eggs Breakfast Kitchen. If you're in Atlanta, they have five locations. Go to the Grits and Eggs Breakfast Kitchen. Whether you want some breakfast food or some. Or some good soul food.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Cause that. First of all, you ain't never. This how good the grits is.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

I'm fucking around, eating the grits with the collard greens. Hey, and that shit was smacking. Great combo and the Mac and cheese.

[Big Cat]

I ain't gonna lie. It was a little. The sodium intake on that Mac and cheese.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry.

[Big Cat]

I still got this. Somebody black made this for sure.

[Deontay Cabba]

That's a black Mac and cheese.

[Big Cat]

But it was good.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, it was great, though. It was great, though. That's black Mac. Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

You gotta cut the Mac with the collard greens.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Bust it down a little bit. It was so good, though, bro. The catfish with the.

[Big Cat]

Oh, the catfish. The catfish.

[Deontay Cabba]

I ain't gonna lie, man. That shit where it's at, bro.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

But we had a great time, man. What a great time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

I ain't. I ain't. You know, I ain't. I ain't cried in a little bit. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Cried, though.

[Deontay Cabba]

But I had to duck off. Like, I had one. Ducked off.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

In the midst of that second show, after we took the pictures and then I just seen everybody in there. It's like, bro, you know, they came to see us, right? But we made it where, you know, they sitting with people they don't know, and they got icebreaker questions on the table. It's trivia, you know, it's good music going on and people was like, linking with the people that they were sitting.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, for sure.

[Deontay Cabba]

Serious community type vibes. When I seen that, I was just standing back watching, like, everybody mingling and all the love and, like, the openness they had with each other, man, I had to hit the block. I had to hit the block with a cig. Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro. Smoking a cig and crying is crazy. But that's what I was doing. I was like, get some of these tears out real. Cause I'm feeling. Yeah, I'm get back down now. I'm gonna get on this.

[Big Cat]

Henny, the dude who came from Minnesota, who he was sitting with, was he sitting with the doctor. Dr. Table or.

[Deontay Cabba]

No, he wasn't. He was sitting beside them.

[Big Cat]

Beside them. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Deontay Cabba]

But he came. He came. His first solo trip by yourself, 20 years old, from Minnesota to come see us, man. Shout out to you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Shout out to the doctor.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the doctor's in the building. Shout out to Detroit.

[Deontay Cabba]

Shout out to Detroit, man. Detroit in the building. That's all the announcements we got right now, man. Let's take a quick break. All right, let's do it.

[Big Cat]

We back.

[Deontay Cabba]

Shout out to Reverend Jamal Bryant. He is the person who initiated the 4840 day fast in response to Target rolling back their D DEI initiatives, effectively boycotting Target. And everybody just seemed to get right on board. It went on longer than 40 days. They are now all of a sudden, Target is closing stores due to rises in theft. Was like, everybody know you can't steal from Target, bro. You going to jail, dawg. But they've seen a significant decline. The CEO even came out and said rolling back the DEI was a mistake. Especially when now the word that we like to use, pander. Now that's what Target like to do come Juneteenth, come black history month come. Come pride month. Yeah, they gonna roll out some merch. They got merch for you. But they'll roll back on their DEI initiatives. But they still expect us to come in there and shop they have seen a significant decline in sales due to this boycott. So we want to shout out to the Reverend Jamal Bryant this from his own words. This is the most successful black boycott since. That we've seen since the 70s. And I think that that's important to note because it goes back to this idea of what I talked about as black community being a bank, that we have to control where we spend. Now, now, now, literally, on a literal level, when we control where we spend, we see how much power we have, right? When we say, I'm not shopping at Target and we don't shop, we see the power of that. But we also have to understand how we are viewed as consumers. And almost people will try to see how much they can get away with us on anything goes type basis. Now, when I said the black community was a bank, I wasn't talking about a physical, literal bank. I was talking about more so of our energy and where we decided to put our energy. And when it comes to us always trying to invite people in. So we. When I, you know, I made the analogy about us always giving out these loans to people with poor and horrible irreparable credit and that we need to start loaning it to ourselves with low to no interest. You understand what I'm saying? And a part of that is, you know, like, for example, what Mr. Glover did, shutting his store down for us, that's a loan, you know what I'm saying? No interest loan. It really a grant. He really showed love. But we. But we showed improved, you know, we proved our credit, you know what I'm saying? Right? We came in there with good credit already, but we proved that we'll. We're gonna pay that loan back, you know what I'm saying? And. And I think the Target boycott is evidence of not only the power of the black dollar, but selective consumption, you know what I mean? Don't shop where you not want it. Don't shop where. Where you'll be disrespected, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't really understand some of the things that we get behind when it comes to fashion. But the thing is, if you really think about the Lulu thing, right, like the Lululemon thing, it really don't matter, because in six months, black people will have a whole new trend and whatever. So Lulu will see a spike from the black community and people who want to assimilate to whatever that status is among white people, whatever status Lululemon brings among the whites, you know what I'm saying? They'll stick with it. But for the most part, this is gonna be for a summer and then we'll be on to the next thing. And hopefully if we get into this place of athleisure with black women, and black women really do be in the gym, you know what I'm saying? We'll be working out. Yeah. So if we gonna go for the athleisure, hopefully we can start transferring our money to a black owned Athleisure brand. Cause there are plenty out there. But shout out to everybody, bro. Shout out to the black community for like staying down. Like, fuck that target shit, you know what I'm saying? Because we have to be responsive to the disrespect. And we have to also understand that even if we aren't the main beneficiaries of dei, it's an effort to help. You know what I'm saying? It's an effort to help. And when they. But the thing is, even if we, what, like sixth on the list of beneficiaries? Even if we sixth on the list, when they say dei, they thinking about you. They ain't thinking about white women who overwhelmingly benefit from it. They not think about Marines or veterans. They thinking about you. And so, man, shout out to y' all. Now we get to. We go from that to Trump pardoning her. First of all, he didn't even fully pardoned Larry Hoover, did he?

[Big Cat]

I don't think so.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, let's look that up. We got the computer.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we got it. We can fact check it.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, it ain't no point in that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Ain't no reason not to. You know what I'm saying? Damn, this should be doing this sometimes. I found an article, but he pardoned a lot of people. And. And he commuted Larry Hoover sentence. But he still. He not. He didn't pardon him. He pardoned some niggas that did tax evasion and shit like that too. And then they said he had pardoned like NBA Youngboy or some shit like that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

And it's funny to me, right? Anybody who's in jail, you know, Larry Hoover was the head of the Gangster Disciples. Whatever, whatever. He's been locked up for a very long time. So I don't really even. I understand what he did as far as organizing. I understand that he may be seen as a political prisoner, right? And people been saying Free Larry Hoover for a long time. But as the Gangster Disciples stand today versus what it was when he started it, two totally different things, right? So the symbolism of it is two totally different things, too. NBA youngboy. Like people that constantly get locked up like this, you know what I'm saying, Koda? Black people that constantly, constantly going to jail. And he'll pardon those things, these entertainers, right? And then turn around and say, yeah, and we're cutting funding to Job Corps.

[Big Cat]

Crazy.

[Deontay Cabba]

Do you know how insane that is? It's a blow to me because it was because we've been advocating for young people to get in trades like, seriously. And young people have been getting into these trades and they've been reaching out. And the overwhelming majority of people in Job Corps and the reason for Job Corps is for people who come from low income environments, and the overwhelming majority of those being minorities, black and brown, and poor white folks. That's really what Job Corps is. That's what it's made up of. You know, Anybody ever went to Job Corps? Yeah, yeah, I, I know mad people that went to Job Corps and went on to do something with theyself, you know what I'm saying? So the cutting to Job Corps is in preparation for what, right? Like how does America benefit from that? How does America benefit from losing skilled tradesmen? Especially on the cusp of all these reports coming out about us losing us. We're going to need a half a million plumbers, you know, we're gonna need a quarter million welders. And. And they teach brick masonry, all these different trades. Like every trade is at Job Corps, right? And it's, if I'm not mistaken, it's free, right? It's federally funded. I'm pretty sure there's some price tag to it. But we got people that are trying to find a way in the world. And academics might not necessarily be for them, and that's okay because academics ain't for everybody. But people don't want to work with their hands. These people that are essential to keeping America going. Real shit. Essential to our construction. Plumbing is extremely essential. Everything gets welded. Every house, every home and business with bricks needs electricity. And we're going to lose out on a lot of young people getting an opportunity to get out of their environment and create a successful career for themselves. And there are still options available, community colleges, vocational schools and things like that. But the thing about Job Corps specifically is it served poor and underfunded communities, you know what I'm saying? People who were living below the poverty line so that they can get into a career without having to pay so much money up front, you know what I mean? And not, not be burdened with debt upon beginning their new career. But then what becomes the Alternative, what do poor people do when they can't get a successful career and they don't qualify for college or can afford to pay for college? What do young people do? I tell you what, I'll tell you what is on the decline just as much as target is military enlistment. Now if you're not gone, if you're not gonna be able to go get a trade and you didn't get accepted in school, what's normally that third option is to go into the military. With military enrollment being extremely low and trump creating all these proxy wars with tariffs and shit like that, you know, ruining international relationships and things like that, that military enlistment is probably gonna shoot up. We probably see a spike of it in the next three to six months because people are gonna be left with no choice. But also what we may see is a rise in crime. So if you don't enlist in the military, poor people, poverty is a precursor to crime. Like I gotta make something happen. You go to crime, you end up going to prison. Then you're giving up free labor due to the 13th Amendment. So they either gonna funnel you into the prison system or funnel you into the military industrial complex. Prison industrial complex. Military industrial complex. Now with all these reports, like I said before, with all these reports coming out about the demand for tradesmen and women, man, I'm just interested to see what's gonna happen. You can go to stop, you can go to save. I think it's save jobcorps.com. there's a position on change.org to save job corpse. But yeah, there's a movement going on right now. Save job corpse because it's needed and it's necessary. And I've always known people that have gone to job corps, you know what I'm saying? So then we get into this, right? So these poor and underfunded communities experience also, you know, when people are looking for a way out. People, the. It's the monetary aspect, right? It's that strain theory I talked about before. It's that monetary aspect that will force you into a desperate situation. Because we live in a capitalist society. Money, money is power. Money, it rules everything. Cash rules everything around. Like it's real shit. Yeah, that's been a reality. Let's talk about environmental racism. So Elon Musk puts is building a. Has built a supercomputer in south Memphis.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

So one of the blacker cities in America. And then, and then to go to the poorer, one of the poorest districts in that black ass city and ruin the water like Memphis has been known for having great water because they sit on top of an aquifer.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

So they brag about their water, how good their water is, and there's constant threats to that water. I don't know what's up with these parasitic ass niggas, bro. They're insidious. It's like they see resources and like, how can I destroy it? So supercomputers, AI, it uses a lot of water. You have to use a lot of water to cool these supercomputers. Right. Which causes air pollution and it also caused water pollution. And they're dumping that water into the Mississippi and they own. Environmental racism is not something new. There's a history of this. So you go Mobile, Alabama, Africa Town. Africa Town is started by a freed enslaved person. Like when they, when they abolished slavery. One of the men who. I forget this man's name. Yeah, let me look it up. Africatown is the historical context of. Africatown is a location chosen by enslaved people as a community. And the area has faced challenges in protecting its heritage and residents from industrialization and pollution. So outside, right outside of African. If you've ever been to Mobile, Alabama, there's a huge plant there and they deal with all types of issues with air pollution and things like that. This ties in directly into a history of environmental racism. And you would be able to look it up on the epa, but that website, you can't find stuff on the EPA anymore, likely because Trump cut funding to the epa. So environmental racism is a form of institutional racism in which people of color bear a disproportionate burden of environmental harms such as pollution from hazardous waste disposal, the effects of natural disasters. Environmental racism exposed Native Americans, African Americans, Asians, Pacific Islanders to physical health hazards that may negatively impact mental health and physical health. So Vince Staples talked about this, that where he lived in Long beach was right next to a plant and he woke up one morning, couldn't and couldn't breathe and develop asthma from this. But how many people are living in these low income neighborhoods that are faced with pollution due to environmental racism? So how are the, what are the long term effects of this supercomputer in Memphis and what are the long term effects of the health on those residents? Just like there's been studies done, you know what I mean? And it's fucked up because, you know, it's that sleight of hand shit, you know what I'm saying? Oh, we doing partings over here, but we also up your neighborhoods over there. And the pardons really don't matter, you know what I mean? In the big scheme of things, Larry Hoover's been locked up since what, the late 70s, early 80s. He already 30, 30, 40 in. So not as he. Not he won't even integrate back into an environment that he left. It's completely different, you know what I'm saying? Because we didn't been through the war on drugs and everything while he's been locked up. But also he's an old man, you know what I'm saying? Like symbolically, what he represents is a great thing for those that care about it. But to the average American, he's just the founder of a gang, you know what I'm saying? So this is the thing about like Elon and like, you know, Elon is invested heavily and environmental racism, even down to the Tesla, because we know that they're solely dependent on the Congo for cobalt. And people are dying. The people that are working on mines are essentially slaves and are treated as such. And I think a big part of this, right, is like we have all this infighting, right? And I talk about the infighting. And we want to address the issues that go on within our community interpersonally. Specifically, we've been talking about the issues with misogyny, massage noir, and how men benefit from and perpetuate the patriarchy. And if we could, because it cause we have to develop some type of unity. Because the enemy is much bigger than just the local racist. The enemy is much bigger than even the police. We're talking about environmental issues, we talking about systemic issues of imminent domain that predate anything that we're talking about. Like how many communities have we been robbed of? How many, how many, how many, how much? How much land has been lost from black people, from imminent domain or from races just killing the people that live there and then stealing the land. Central park used to be Seneca Village, now it's Central park. And the entire design of New York City is racist as fuck. Anyway, we deal with that here in Atlanta. I20 goes right through. I mean, it cuts right through where all of our historical black colleges are literally split those neighborhoods in half. And due to the war on drugs, now they going and buying and gentrifying all that shit up. Progress is inevitable. But it seems like America's idea of progress is always to affect the communities that we come from. And I think that it's. The biggest thing is the impact on our health. The biggest thing is the impact on your mental health. You know what I'm saying? If you in your house and your house is a Mess. It said that that'd be a reflection of your own mind. And once you clean that house up, you know, you can't be sad in a clean house. You can't be, God damn it, just feel good. Especially that first, what, hour or two as you clean up. First of all you clean up, then you got to take you a good shower. You got to take, you. I can't, I can't be dirty in a clean environment. I'm going to take me a good shower in this clean ass bathroom and go lay down in this clean ass room. Feeling good. You feel accomplished. It extends outside of the home and air pollution. People are gonna develop cancer, people are gonna develop several different diseases from toxic waste. How many black communities are located right next to a landfill? And the stench. How many black communities are located right next to a chicken plant? And the stench, they gotta smell it every day. Now, now, now we talking about one of the cities that has been heralded for the quality of their water because of where they sit. And they trying their damnedest to get to that. So when they, when there's a constant condemnation of the black community and people are allowed to see our communities as just shit, and not just communities of culture and communities with rich histories that have been affected by systemic racism, environmental racism being a big part of that, then these things are allowed to happen. And you get somebody like Elon Musk where you throw it off like it's a Roman salute, you know, it's just a Roman salute. But what are the effects of that salute? And who are the people affected by these policies? Who are the people? Because first of all, what he's doing is deemed as illegal. But Trump in office, Elon, likely big, a big lobbyist for Trump and probably closer to the billions of dollars, it's just bullshit. And those people in South Memphis are going to be severely affected. So outside of the issues that they face systemically with over policing, mass incarceration, and those young people who would seek job corps to get them out of it, seek a trade to get them out, are now gonna be forced to either commit, commit to a life of crime and be funneled into the prison industrial complex or go into the military industrial complex. And all this shit is connected. Damn, man. My uncle, he just, he developed cancer. He's like, yeah, he's 38. Like now. I can't stay over here, bro. It's that fucking plant. They know what it is. They gotta walk past it every day. And I just, you know, God damn.

[Big Cat]

Man.

[Deontay Cabba]

It just don't stop Bro, the systemic nature of it, it just don't stop. And it's insidious. And these are the bigger issues that we want to talk about. Like when they put that pipeline in North Dakota, like, this is the thing that Native Americans deal with. They get these reservations that are supposed to be safe spaces for them, and they say, well, shit, hey, we're going to cut right through the middle of it. Now, the thing is, the pipeline is going to leak. It's going to leak. Just natural process of things. If there's constantly flow going in and out of it, there's gaskets that are gonna wear down, and it's gonna leak, and it's gonna leak into their soil. And if they have crops on that land, it's gonna ruin those crops. If they have water on that land, it's gonna ruin that water. And the same thing will happen in South Memphis that happened in Mobile, Alabama. That happens all across this country in predominantly black areas where low quality of water, low air quality, spike in mental health issues, spike in physical health issues, over policing. This is a structural thing. This is how they designed it. That's why I focus on the infighting, so we can focus on the enemies outside the house, because they're big enemies. You understand what I'm saying? I don't know what the solution is, per se, because how do you. How do you solve something like that? You know what I'm saying? How do you solve something so structural and systemic? You can't just move all the people away. Can't just shut the plant down. You could, or from an organizational level, but think about the people that's working there. They ain't trying to hear that shit. They don't care about people in South Memphis. So shout out to the people in South Memphis, man, I seen something this week pissed me the off. Pissed me the off.

[Big Cat]

What happened?

[Deontay Cabba]

You're familiar with this Ms. Shirley thing, right?

[Big Cat]

No. Enlighten me.

[Deontay Cabba]

All right, so you know, the. The. The trail rides have become a phenomenon.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[Deontay Cabba]

The dances associated with. Have become the. The new focal point of, you know, black entertainment. Right. You know, Ms. Shirley is a child. This little girl, probably four years old, three or four years old, okay? She got these dances down pack. She'd be wearing the boots. They call her Ms. Shirley. That's an issue one. This is a. This is a toddler, okay? So we're adultifying a toddler, a black little girl, nothing new there. Her mama because of. Because she's become a sensation online. Her mama has organized meet and greets with Ms. Shirley. And you got grown men traveling across state lines to come meet Ms. Shirley. A baby. And they picking the baby up and they holding her. Some of these meet and greets have been in clubs. So we got a baby in a club to meet grown men, and the mama just sitting there smiling. Her. First of all, can we get Ms. Shirley. Can we get this baby in the hands of somebody who actually gives a. About her and is not exploiting her daughter and exposing her daughter to grown men? As. As a grown man, m. If Shirley was my neighbor, I wouldn't be going over there to pick her up to meet her. And you talk about niggas traveling across state lines, driving hours to come meet a baby that ain't theirs. What would the intention behind that be? Hmm? If it's not. If it's not pedophilia, what is the intention? Because the only thing I can think is pedophilia.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I agree with you.

[Deontay Cabba]

We gotta get that somebody go protect that baby, man. Spill my goddamn coffee all over me.

[Big Cat]

That so hot. He need feel the hot.

[Deontay Cabba]

I ain't even feel it. I mean, this is some bullshit. This is an unprotected baby, bro. And she's being exploited.

[Big Cat]

So she's just doing the dances like that. She's just doing the way the fans at dances.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, man. And she's become a sensation online, you know what I'm saying? And. And I think the thing is, it's like, people. People be hitting hard times, right? So, you know, you see opportunity to make some money and whatever, that's fine. But it should never come at the expense of your child, especially a little black girl. Because what are these men's intentions on meeting her? They picking her up and holding her. And what if I'm. If. If I'm. I don't know what they situation is. I don't know who their baby daddy is. But if I'm the daddy, I'm organizing the meet and greet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, don't pick my child up.

[Deontay Cabba]

Nah, that. I'm organizing meet and greet. Yeah, we're gonna do it somewhere, and we're gonna have a seat and we're gonna organize. Everybody get their own time. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna have security, and then I'm turning to Fred. Fred Hammond. Oh, lock the doors.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

And I'm gonna ask all the women to leave. First of all, we ridiculing the women. Cause what the fuck y' all doing here? And we gonna kill every nigga that pulled up to see Ms. Shirley. Yeah, we gonna organize another meet and greet. Ms. Shirley gonna be here, and this shit Ms. Shirley ain't gonna be there. The gun's gonna be there. And we're gonna blick down everybody that came to meet Ms. Shirley, because why are you traveling to meet a baby? What would the need be? Niggas is sick, man. Yeah, I seen this clip. Let me find it. We're gonna watch a couple of these shorts. The first one I forgot all about. We did bring up Jamal Bryant earlier, the organizer of the Target boycott. But check this out. You got pretty legs, man. Oh, man. And they lana, lady. Oh, man.

[Big Cat]

Listen, I'm just.

[Deontay Cabba]

I'm calling legs lanolated.

[Big Cat]

Laminated.

[Deontay Cabba]

I don't even know what that means.

[Big Cat]

Laminate. I think he meant laminated. Lamellated. It's crazy. Well to be. I see. I see. I see Kevin in the airport, son. Yeah. They got nice legs working out.

[Deontay Cabba]

You put shea butter jerky.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you see that?

[Deontay Cabba]

They glowing in the dark.

[Big Cat]

I'm just nervous. Zoom in.

[Deontay Cabba]

Do not skip leg day.

[Big Cat]

Don't do that. Sometimes you gotta remind people, you know.

[Deontay Cabba]

He put his got Jergens on jargons.

[Big Cat]

On his legs, Shea, but in Jergens.

[Deontay Cabba]

Hey, man, I'm offering black men being able to compliment each other, but that's a little crazy. Yeah, that.

[Big Cat]

Little too in detail, brother.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now he was getting excited.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

He's got nice legs.

[Deontay Cabba]

Brother got nice legs.

[Big Cat]

I like them. They laminated. They laminated.

[Deontay Cabba]

Brother just eliminated. They glowing in the dark, baby. Tell nigga's legs growing in the dark.

[Big Cat]

They glowing in the dark.

[Deontay Cabba]

All right, this is the clip I was talking about. What's the biggest tackle you had to get up from?

[Big Cat]

It's still a work in progress. Vulnerably. It took something out of me. When or when people say I created broken homes and I'm just trying to make my wrongs right, being a public figure and bleeding in public is tough. Yeah. Because you got to be strong. I have this saying, where do lions go to lay? Where the eagles go to cry, where the warriors go to weep. It's tough. But for me and I. And I see my seeds and things that I. I work for, the reasoning to give them a better life. What's the biggest tackle you had to get up from?

[Deontay Cabba]

So here's the thing. Where the warriors got a weep, where eagles go to cry, where the lions go to lay. Yeah, listen, I don't. I don't think that Cam Newton is A bad dad? No, he got money, you know what I'm saying? I'm pretty sure he gives a about his kids. When he was on there with Dr. Bryant. Not the Reverend Brian, the one. Not. Not. But the one who kind of broke down his psychology, she did the same thing. Nick Cannon. They talking about creating broken homes. That's just a fact. You understand what I'm saying? It's like the second both parents aren't in the home, it's considered a broken home, right? So if you got multiple kids and multiple baby moms, you can't be around all of them. You can't be with. You don't go to bed with all the kids at night, right? It's impossible, you know what I'm saying? Unless y' all was like to all move in the same house together, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Then you're a Mormon.

[Deontay Cabba]

Oh, God. You know what I'm saying? But that I think the part, I think the broken home part. You're creating broken homes as it is. True. It may be hard to hear, especially like when you getting your money and you doing your thing. And I don't think that this is something that we think about enough as men, you know, Big K, you made a decision, right? You had your kid. Yeah, it didn't work out. You say one and done. One and done.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

I got three kids. That's it for me. Three kids, they got the same mama. I'm done. Because we understand what that is, you know what I'm saying? Like I grew up in a house with two parents until I was 11, 10, 11 years old. And the toll it take on you, first of all, when the relationship is ending, that's the part we don't talk about a lot. This, I have nothing to do with Cam Newton. I'm just. The reality is you are creating broken homes, right? Okay. That's the reality. You have to accept that reality. And like he said, he could try to make amends and do better and be more present, but at the same time, he's a public figure. He gotta go get money, you know what I'm saying? He has these shows. The career didn't pan out. First of all, one of the greatest quarterbacks, period. You know what I'm saying? Cam was great. Cam was my favorite player. Panthers fan. Me, your boy. So the reality is though, you creating broken homes, like if it's not a two parent household, it's considered a broken home. You have great co parenting relationship and both parents could be good and the kid could Be happy and kid could be well adjusted and things like that. But I'm saying by definition, right? So somebody gonna miss out. Especially when you start getting up to eight kids and they all over with all these different women. Yeah, somebody's being neglected. You know, there's no way to not neglect at that point. Right. But I want to speak to the process, right? Because I think that when we're adults and we making these moves, we don't think about like the long term effects of it on the child. Right. So of course like we adults, we get together, things don't work out, they just don't work out, Right. Sometimes things don't work out, that's fine, you know what I mean? We only got one life. So to spend your life in misery, that ain't the way to go. We've seen our grandparents do it, you know, we've seen a lot of women didn't really actually live their life until their husband died. Cause they lived in service of him and that was their choice and that decision. I'm not here to speak on relationships and how people conduct themselves in relationships, but the effects on the child, as somebody who come from a broken home, is that that should bring you online, you know what I'm saying? Like I can remember 9, 9, 10 years old, we moved to Parkwood and it was like great. It's like my parents went from renting to owning, you know, we bought our, bought our own house. It was a big deal, you know what I'm saying? Like I remember how excited they were. I remember like, bro, we had a, like this is an all black neighborhood, you know what I'm saying? We always kind of lived in proximity to black people, period. But from renting to buying and buying in this neighborhood specifically, which is black working class neighborhood in Wilmington, North Carolina. And my mama hairdresser stayed in that neighborhood. So she didn't go to the shop no more, she just went directly to her house. My dad had friends over there, you know. I became fast friends with everybody in the neighborhood. It was a beautiful thing. We had a little hammock, you know what I'm saying? Shit was fire. We had a hammock in the back and shit. I used to be out there practicing baseball all the time. Like we had a big ass backyard.

[Big Cat]

The American dream.

[Deontay Cabba]

American dream for real. A real American dream. Two hard working parents, they done put their money up, they done bought the house. Like I normally would come to Atlanta or go to Fayetteville for the summer around this time. Like all my aunties and my grandma stayed in Fayetteville. So we was in Fayetteville for, like, the whole summer. I'm like, damn. We only usually come out here for a week or two. We spent the whole summer out here. Probably like a little bit after my birthday, we went back to Wilmington. New crib, own room. Like, I got my own room. This pop. Like, I always had my own because I'm only boy. But it's like a new room, and it's set up. We got the cable, the cable popping. We got a Time Warner cable. We got all the channels. And it was just fire, bruh. I remember how excited they were. I know. I know what broke my parents up. I won't put their business out there. But to see the decline in the relationship so fast. We moved there when I'm in fourth grade, halfway through fifth grade. It's nasty in the crib. Like, it's unbearable to be there. You know what I'm saying? Then you start seeing the police show up. Cause of domestic violence and shit like that. And, you know, you out. Like, your parents are. Go outside. Go outside. And you like, okay, yeah, I'll go outside. You like this. I was you outside with your friends. Like, why the police at your house? Like, damn, them folks in there fighting. Then the. The. The. The anger and the disdain that they have for each other spill over to the point where they can't hide it. So now you in a house not only where your folks arguing, but they real deal fighting in that bitch. It's old and won't. Cause he done punched it. You know, you seeing the motherfucker get physical with each other, you want the shit to stop. And then the tension is crazy. Cause it's like, my mom, specifically, I seen a shift in her demeanor, and I. You know, like I said, I know why, but also seen a shift in my dad demeanor, too. Like, started getting a lot more vocal and emotional. Like, I ain't never seen that man cry before. But when they finally taught us they was getting a divorce, first of all, we knew it was coming. But second of all, when they told us about it, I ain't gonna lie. Like, I had said, like, thank God, you know, like, audibly to them. Like, bruh, we tired of this shit. Y' all need to be fighting all the time. It's uncomfortable for us to be in the crib, you know what I'm saying? Because we can tell y' all hate each other. So, like, dinner ain't even the same. Ain't nobody talking. It's just tension in this bitch. You don't understand how much of that start to affect the child in the wind. It's like, damn, did I do something? You know what I'm saying? Naturally, that's the point. That's the place that kids gonna go. They gonna take everything personal. So I say, when they split, my mom left and I'm living with my dad full time. It's odd, it's weird, you know what I'm saying? Because your mom really gonna keep shit organized, you know what I'm saying? So she, she. It was. It was just weird, bro. Like, damn, y' all really don't live together no more? Then I'm going to my mama new spot. It's like, the. What the is this? You know what I'm saying? But it's also a downgrade too. Cause it's like Mon Duke's like, she's staying like a loft. So she got her room upstairs and then it's a downstairs, but it's just open studio style. It's small niggas sleeping on the floor when they go over there. You gotta go over there every other weekend. Like courts involved. And then you start talking to your friends and shit that like, they parents divorce and you. They're like, yeah, my parents divorced. We used to go to like. I gotta go to like when people say like, oh, I'm going to my dad house this weekend, it's like, what the fuck? What you mean? Yeah, you mean you're a kid. Because most people. But then you just like start talking to kids that's got divorced parents and shit. It's like, boy, this shit hill crazy. This shit crazy. But I think also too, the pressure become a little bit more on the kids to be, you know, this how I grew up. Because it's like, shit, Mama Dukes ain't here and my pops gotta pick up extra job to take care of us. So shit, really the onus is on us to like take care of ourselves. So it's like, you know, shit, we waking ourselves up for school, make sure we washing our own clothes. Shit, the dryer go out. We go out in the backyard and pitch a line and hang our clothes outside and shit like that. Like we become. We became adults. Yeah, in. In the sense of responsibility. And that reshaped my brain. Like, it's like it rewired how I looked at. But then when you start saying your folk deal with other people and too, it get odd then. Cause it's like my mama, like, yeah, you wake up, it's a random woman in your house. Like, who the is this? You know what I'm saying? Like, what the fuck she doing here? Yeah, it is like you want to tell your mama, like, daddy had another woman in the house, but then you don't because it's like, I'm so tired of them fighting. So then it's like, you keep a secret for niggas and it become too much brain. So much, bro. Then you just, you just going to spend the night at random people house like my dad used to be all, shit, I'm going to take you over such and such house because I got to work overnight tonight. Boom, boom, boom. I don't fucking know this woman, right? Stay over there. I'd rather stay at the house by myself. Yeah, Than to stay over there. It'd be weird shit, bro. Just like your life get literally like Fresh Prince twist turned upside down. Right, right, right. And it's like, that's, that's, that's an example of three kids and one mom, right? And we talking about eight kids and four baby mama. You see what I'm saying now? What are the trends? Yeah, yeah, the money thing, cool. Like you can buy me all the toys, you can buy me all the clothes. And it's like, it ain't like we was. I don't really. I don't remember really thinking about lack. I just remember thinking about the dynamic of the household. Like, damn, this fucked up over here. Like, this shit crazy. You know what I'm saying? But then also too, it's like you get to a point too where you just like do whatever you want. Like, I ain't give a fuck about school no more. Cause like, I ain't got to. Ain't nobody there to check my grades, right? Shit, when they call the house, ain't nobody there. So you leave a voice message, that's fine. I'm finna go home and delete that. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Right?

[Deontay Cabba]

I'm skipping school like this when I start, like getting into smoking and drinking and shit, you know what I'm saying? Like. Cause my sister she older, so like imagine her, she got free reign, she got boyfriend at the house. Like, I'm cool boyfriend and shit, right? You know what I'm saying? Like, it's my nigga, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Boyfriend selling weed and shit, he said he cool, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Cabba]

But you can just get it, you know, you get into that space where it's like we adolescents, and I'm 13 and she's 16, and my baby sister like 10. You know, we in that area where it's like, we can kind of take care of ourselves, right? But we also have been forced to do so. And then it's like my sister gonna go extra so she can get her freedom. Cause it's like she gonna take on the role as the mama. But then also, my sister got bipolar. You know what I'm saying? She bipolar. So then it's odd in the spot when, like, shit fucked up. She trying to fight niggas and shit. Like, I fist fight my sister and I ain't little no more. I'm like, what's up? You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Now you gotta fight for real.

[Deontay Cabba]

I punch my sister in the motherfucking face, but I love my sister. But it's like, you ain't finna handle me in this bitch, right? Shit just get wicked at the spot. Nigga drinking Bumpy Face Seagram's gin that my daddy had hit up in the pantry. You living wild as fuck, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

To be 12 and drinking sweet.

[Deontay Cabba]

Nah, that's what I'm saying. Drinking that shit with Kool Aid. Too specific. Crazy drinking sequence. Gin with orange Kool Aid, bro. It's real life.

[Big Cat]

You said a juke joint.

[Deontay Cabba]

Turn the spot to the juke joint. But the thing is, it's like, if this don't happen, right, whatever decision my dad or mom made that broke them up, if that don't happen, when it's the trajectory, it changes completely. Because now I got supervision. I got people keeping me in order. Like my mama used to keep shit in order to. You ain't just finna come in this bitch and kick it. Like, we got chores. Like, n. I come from cleaning baseboards and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you wake up. If Anita playing, if Kelly Price playing, nigga, If Whitney playing, if Luther playing, if Luther playing, it's a deep clean day. That means my mom in a real good mood to have you doing some shit Laundromat days, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's what it is in the house of five. Something go out. Instead of fixing, just take that bitch to the laundromat. You know what I'm saying? You end up with the Mexicans. But the thing is, is like the organization just fell apart. The structure fell apart, right? And it's like you got one person trying to do everything. One person can't do everything, bro. Especially with three kids and especially with adolescent kids, too. That's like Extremely aware. So I speak to that situation like, this is where the grits and that come from. You know what I'm saying? Like, my. Like my pops, I done told this story a thousand times now. But like, my pops used to. He had shown me how to make greets and eggs. Cause it's like, shit, if it ain't no spaghetti or no leftovers. And you hungry, you whip that up real quick, you good. But it ties into, like the point in my life when I start thinking for myself, right? Point in my life when I start making my own decisions. Like, I really had autonomy at 12. Most people don't. You know what I'm saying? Most people. But at 12, I was like, shit, I'm finna go out really too. And my sister was like, helpful. Cause she was like, I know you don't give a fuck about school and shit, but, like, you gotta do something. Like, you can't just phone it in. Cause she trying to protect what she got going on, right? You know what I'm saying? I done seen some wild shit, you know what I'm saying? I had to console my sister through. I'm 12 years old, bro. First of all, she free range. So she fucking her boyfriend and shit like that. This her baby dad now too. But yeah, he done got her pregnant. She was 15. She had a miscarriage. He don't know about the miscarriage. Don't nobody know about this shit but me. And I'm consoling her through this shit. I don't even understand what's going on, for real. I don't know why she fucked up and crying and shit like that. But it's like you start dealing with adult situations like this adult supposed to be dealing with, right? We kids, bro. Like, I ain't supposed to be consoling you in this way. But the thing is, there ain't no structure. There ain't no organization. It's a free fall. We raising each other too. You understand what I'm saying? And my dad, he ain't none the wiser because he ain't never been no super duper vocal person. So, like, his shit is lead by example of ethic. Like, I got a strong work ethic, so I get my work ethic from him for sure. But I also don't learn how to express myself emotionally as a man, you know what I'm saying? Cause he don't. Shit. First time my mama told me she loved me. I'm 12, it's Valentine's Day. She sent me a cookie cake and called me Like, I miss y' all. I love y' all. I'm in Atlanta. I'm gonna have y' all here soon. We, like, whatever. Like, I don't even know why you ain't here. You see what I'm saying? So all this shit fall apart. We talking about three kids. So we transferred it to eight or 10 or 12. Like, n just be having a lot of babies, bro. You see what I'm saying? And we not thinking. Like, you think about the effects of the pleasure. And then you think about the effects of unfortunately keeping a string on a woman through that child, a woman you otherwise might not be able to maintain a relationship with, but you put that baby in her 18 years. You know what I'm saying? I know this to be true. I learned this young. When I'm 18. I learned this. I'm dealing with this young lady. Fine. See what I'm saying? Fine. We kicking it. We kicking it heavy. It started getting. It started getting to a point where it's like. It's getting a little serious. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Cabba]

And my partner, like, yeah, bro. He was like, man, that was fine. Like, man, you might want to put a baby in her. I'm like, what?

[Big Cat]

What kind of vice is that, my nigga? Put a baby in that?

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, keep that. Keep that around.

[Big Cat]

Cause she fine.

[Deontay Cabba]

Cause she fine.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy.

[Deontay Cabba]

And I ain't even gonna say shorty was. Our disconnect is we just from two different worlds. Like, she grew up a lot more privileged than me. I'm selling drugs at the time. I'm robbing all type of. We not living the same type of life. And we don't have the same mentality. Like, she in college. And respect, though. I wasn't never like, the type of niggas, like, fuck school. Woo, woo, woo. I understand we have a disconnect. We just gonna go part our separate ways. Cause I'm not gonna change for you. And nothing you could do to change for me could be good for you. Right? Cause I have nothing to offer. You understand what I'm saying? And I think that's an unfortunate thing too. Like, niggas is getting girls pregnant to keep a string on them. Naomi Osaka, bro. Right, right. Perfect example. I don't know these folks. Right? I don't know what people timelines is. I don't. I don't control relationships. I'm just saying specifically to make this example. You with a girl, she had to peak her career. She could be the greatest tennis player of all time. You get her pregnant. Like, what are we doing, cuz? Cause we do control that right now.

[Big Cat]

We do.

[Deontay Cabba]

You gotta be. You gotta nut and something.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Trust me. I got three. I know how you gotta be in there. Yeah, I'm talking about in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Balls to the wall. You gotta be balls to the wall. You gotta lay in there.

[Big Cat]

Balls to the wall.

[Deontay Cabba]

Balls to the wall. But, but this is the thing that the pregnancy niggas are doing shit. Niggas are getting girls pregnant to hinder them from realizing that maybe this ain't the for me. And it's talked about Brad. And it's like will sit here and talk to me about pandering. It's like, bro, I know what you do, bro. I be around you. I don't have some ain't shit friends before man, I'm. Put a baby in that bitch. Put a baby in her. Why would I do that?

[Big Cat]

Kind of plan is that.

[Deontay Cabba]

What kind of plan is that? But it's just to keep her around. You understand what I'm saying? Like, it's this mentality of like, she's so fine. Let me, let me put a string on her real quick. What's gonna put a bigger string? Like she forced to deal with you now. If you got a baby, she forced to communicate with you now. Yeah, she forced. Y' all forced to be in each other's lives. And there's a mentality like, even with women, you'll let a nigga get you pregnant or whatever, or tell a nigga to put a baby in you, knowing the nigga ain't shit, but he got a little money, he got a little status. And you think, okay, the baby is what's gonna tie him down. A baby ain't never saved a relationship from nothing.

[Big Cat]

It just made it worse.

[Deontay Cabba]

It just make it worse. You over complicate the. And then who left in the crosshairs, it's that baby. But nobody's thinking about that because they can think about their own self validation. They think about their own long thought out process of physically this the woman in my dreams. I can't do nothing to keep her. I got money. I don't got no goals. But before she find that out, let me put a baby in. And in the situations where you got people with a whole lot of money, they look at a baby as like, well, it ain't no big deal because I got money, right? And that ain't how you. That ain't raising a child. You paying for a child for sure. I eat Edwards. I don't want nothing to do with this, baby. But I pay for it. And it's like niggas is writing it off like it's a expense. Like. Like, yeah, yeah, I could just pay for that. And Mace even said. You see what Mace said? What he said about aunt.

[Big Cat]

What do you say?

[Deontay Cabba]

He was like, you ain't gonna win nothing until you do right by that baby. That's your real shit. Because the thing is, you. None of them ain't a conspiracy. Yeah, you gotta pull that thing out. Oh, you gotta wrap that thing up. One of the two wrap it up.

[Big Cat]

Wrap them up. They wrap it up.

[Deontay Cabba]

Because that's a responsibility to come along with it. Yeah, that's the responsibility to come along with it.

[Big Cat]

I mean, how she strike gold twice? Little baby and little Baby and both.

[Deontay Cabba]

Of them, Zone 4.

[Big Cat]

Both Hamilton Road, not even three miles down the street from each other. That's hitting the lottery. Twice.

[Deontay Cabba]

That's good cat. That's. First of all, big Cat.

[Big Cat]

Now she's the real big bird.

[Deontay Cabba]

No, I ain't gonna lie, though. Yeah. If we. If we're gonna look at it like, you know I'm saying, rich baby daddy. Yeah, she went crazy twice. She. She got the district down pat. She got the district a lot.

[Big Cat]

She got came to road a lot.

[Deontay Cabba]

She could smell success on me. Yeah, she know how to talk to a camel.

[Big Cat]

She at Greenbrow right now.

[Deontay Cabba]

She over there doing market research.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Oh, sick. Oh, boy. Get to something, because where do warriors go to cry? You know what I'm saying? Nah, it's just like Karen Newton just funny to me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Because first of all, like, to go from, like, you got nice legs to, like, man, where the warriors go to wheat. Come on. As I would get here.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

I would get here.

[Big Cat]

Your legs laminated?

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They laminated.

[Deontay Cabba]

No, no, now that I think about it, like, lamination do shine.

[Big Cat]

They do.

[Deontay Cabba]

That's what he meant. That's what he meant. He meant to say legs was laminated. He's a sick nigga.

[Big Cat]

He said laminated.

[Deontay Cabba]

Well, I mean, appreciate you for organizing the target boycott, man. I mean, whatever you doing your spare time ain't none of my business, man, that between you and the Lord. You know what I'm saying? You know, you take that up with God, bro. I don't control when nigga do what they like.

[Big Cat]

Nah, nah, we don't judge.

[Deontay Cabba]

We don't judge.

[Big Cat]

We don't judge.

[Deontay Cabba]

I'm. I'm never gonna look at a and say, you got some nice legs. No, but maybe that's Maybe that's me lacking progression. Maybe I ain't progressive enough.

[Big Cat]

I don't think it's progression. He was flirting with it. That ain't progression.

[Deontay Cabba]

Came on comes like, oh, man. Yeah, man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man. Thank you.

[Deontay Cabba]

I never skip leg day.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I do this.

[Deontay Cabba]

But we've seen. Came in. First of all, it's a giant.

[Big Cat]

Yo, Cam is huge, bro. When we said in the airport, I was like, I ain't no camera.

[Deontay Cabba]

This first of all. First of all, was sick. Like six, six, six.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

The seven two with the locks. Because he got the locks up in the hat.

[Big Cat]

In the hat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

He's 7:2.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

It's a massive human being. My.

[Big Cat]

The longest legs I've ever seen in my life. Smallest shorts, the longest legs, biggest ride.

[Deontay Cabba]

Longest ride.

[Big Cat]

For sure, Kev.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck, man. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, when we seen it, I'm like, damn, shorty go. Shorty go like, hoojie daddy sweat pants, shorts.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

With socks and dress shoes. Like, his outfits be all over the place, but.

[Big Cat]

But somehow they make sense.

[Deontay Cabba]

I don't know how he doing it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't know what's going on.

[Deontay Cabba]

Go. Going first of all, going jersey over the button up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Over the collar. With the tie.

[Big Cat]

With the tie.

[Deontay Cabba]

Every now and then, the kind of little fire.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

I wouldn't go. Nah, it ain't for me. He's established this eccentric. He put.

[Big Cat]

He's doing it. Whatever it is he's doing. He's doing.

[Deontay Cabba]

First of all, nigga. Six, seven.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, six, seven.

[Deontay Cabba]

Cool. He a solid 260.

[Big Cat]

You see what he did to them five at the park?

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

That couldn't move him.

[Deontay Cabba]

That. Come on.

[Big Cat]

He can't move that man's head.

[Deontay Cabba]

That's why I want to let it be clear to you, Cam Newton, that we ain't talking about you personally.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

We just speaking solely on the situation. Want no smoke with you, brother. Matter of fact, bring me on fourth and one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Longest legs, smallest shorts.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, yeah, son. And he gonna. And he gonna go long sleeve collar, shirt, jersey, over it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

And the hat.

[Big Cat]

In the hat.

[Deontay Cabba]

Ill, son.

[Big Cat]

Do your thing, Cam.

[Deontay Cabba]

Hey, man, whatever you're doing is working. Jamal Bryan likes it because they lamelate it. They lamelate it. Help a brother. Oh, shit.

[Big Cat]

Oh, we going into the email.

[Deontay Cabba]

Help a brother out. I love. In love with your platform. Everything you stand for as a black girl from the south side, I'm writing about My younger brother, who's 22, I'm 28. There's a bit of age gap and I've been watching, I've been watching him go through that tough transitional period into adulthood, only without the cushion of college. He started working young, landing a job with a major airline at 19, making decent money. He eventually got fired, bounced back with a new job that paid even more, moved into his own place. Unfortunately, he got let go again and then came to work at my restaurant after a car accident. Accident in a company vehicle. He was let go from that job too. Sheesh. Now he's only been living on his own for four to five months, but he's got really dope bills and a baby on the way.

[Big Cat]

God dog it.

[Deontay Cabba]

What makes it harder is he's still trying to find his footing without a lot of guidance. He's a good young adult, responsible in many ways, but he hard on himself and navigating what feels like college growing pains without ever going to college. I do what I can as a sister, but I think he'd benefit more from some direction from other men who've been there. He's handy, tech savvy, great with music and media. So I'm hoping you might suggest resources, career paths or trade options that can help him find his lane and feel more stable. Tell that boy to email me directly. Deontay. Deontay. Kyle.com. he, he, he gonna be all right though, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Like, it seems like he's, he lacks a little discipline.

[Deontay Cabba]

Lacking a little discipline. Maybe a little self sabotage.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

You know what I'm saying? Maybe get a little too comfortable. We all been there, you know what I'm saying? I was, I, I had to work this job at this restaurant and we was, I was just busting tables, you know, it was nothing crazy, you know what I'm saying? But what I was doing is when we would, when we would go make the margarita, you know, we gotta make the margarita in the big 10 gallon bucket like the standard margarita. Yeah, I'm in a. Sipping that, sipping that mother down up at work. Me and these two Mexican niggas, we getting four up at work, bro. Margarita. Own that.

[Big Cat]

Taking a cup. Yeah, baby, dip that in there, dip that in there. How it tast, baby? Little salt. Pass me a couple of lives, baby.

[Deontay Cabba]

Hey, bro, look, dog, I'm telling you that I used to be getting up at work. I didn't had a lot of situations in my life where I was like, I'm testing the limits, testing the Limits. Getting too comfortable. You know, coming to work high, doing like that, and you learn. You learn early. You. You know, you. You miss out on some opportunities from being lazy. You miss out on some opportunities from lacking discipline. You know what I'm saying? You miss out opportunities, too. Just getting too comfortable. But he young, you know what I'm saying? Like, he gotta. The college growing pains is just the growing pains of young adulthood. Right? You're just transitioning, you know, he gonna have to step a game up, you know what I'm saying? But the thing is, is, like, he's learning from each of these situations. Whether it looks like he is or not, I'm gonna tell you right now, like, the fact that, you know, he like to work with his hands, he is tech savvy. The fact that he's been able to, like, always land on his feet is a clear sign of determination, a clear sign that he's motivated. But, I mean, you know what I'm saying? We ain't gonna get it right out the gate. So I don't really. I mean, if he want to email me directly so I can put him on some resources or if he got questions, I got resources, and we can point him in that direction. But the reality is, LeBron gonna be all right. Yeah. Gonna be cool. And the baby gonna come when the baby come.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

You gonna try to be real. He gonna tighten it. Yeah, he gonna tighten it up a lot. But thank you for reaching out, advice. Oh, reparation, dick.

[Big Cat]

Oh, what the.

[Deontay Cabba]

I'm telling you, dog. I'm telling you. Hey, y' all. Discovering this podcast has been one of the best things that's happened to me. It's so refreshing to know there are people using their platform for something. Funny as fuck. Honest as fucking black as fuck. I was wondering. I was hoping y' all could let me know your thoughts on people like me who have been single for over eight years. I'm a single black woman, mid-30s, with a house and no kids. Psychotherapists, live in New York City. Physically attractive, funny. I can cook. I can even offer free therapy to black community. Somehow, I guess I'm not appealing enough for marriage because most guys just want sex and don't care about my other attributes. I believe part of the reason is a lot of.

[Big Cat]

What? What's up, sippy coffee, yo, that cr. Like, what happened? What she say?

[Deontay Cabba]

I believe part of the reason is that a lot of men I encounter in New York City are gay. The only ones who show interest in me are usually white men, broke men, who want me to take care of them or black men who want to cheat on their white partner with me. I'm not interested in reparation dick or mothering a grown man. There's a theory that some men can be intimidated by successful women, and I'd love to know your thoughts on that. Tried dating apps, but most of them just want sex. I've tried church environments, but many of them are already married. I'm open to trying new things, but I refuse to date outside my race. I not even the Latin community. Being single over eight years has taken me to a place of desperation and I'm nervous as fuck. Help.

[Big Cat]

When in doubt, big headed out, baby. Single. New York City, my type of girl, baby. She want black love. We gonna give her black love, baby.

[Deontay Cabba]

You gotta be good to her, though. Nah, for sure I'll be on your ass.

[Big Cat]

What's her career field?

[Deontay Cabba]

She a psychotherapist.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She'll get my mind right.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, I need some therapy too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Holla at me about some therapy. Yeah, but that's besides the point. I'm actually gonna email her back about the therapy. Like, I'm dead as needing any of therapy. I just kind of like. Yeah, I just kind of trauma dumped on y' all a little bit. Like, I'm just there thinking about it. Yeah. This is how the divorce affected me.

[Big Cat]

This is how divorce ruined my life.

[Deontay Cabba]

It ruined me. Fuck Cam Newton. N.

[Big Cat]

Be in the house with your kids, nigga.

[Deontay Cabba]

Go home and hug your babies, nigga. But they end up like me.

[Big Cat]

Kiss your babies.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah. Shit. Cause hey, every. Every child that's a product of a broken home don't have a successful award winning podcast. Most of them end up how I was six, seven years ago.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man.

[Deontay Cabba]

On drugs.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man.

[Deontay Cabba]

Drugs and alcohol have ruined my life. I was up, man. I remember I called my daddy one time, drinking like 25 years old. I was like, you a lame man.

[Big Cat]

So.

[Deontay Cabba]

You coward. I was going in on my part that said what?

[Big Cat]

Damn.

[Deontay Cabba]

Was at my house the next day. Oh, from North Carolina. What the. You.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was that you were talking? Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

Okay. You know, clearly, you know, you'll be intimidated by anybody that's like doing better than you. You know what I'm saying? That's a thing. And we could be honest about that. Like, there's a need for men to do better than their women. That's just a societal factor. This is something we speak to a lot about sisters, like putting their head down and playing the long game. Now. She played the Long game. And she was. She played the long game. And.

[Big Cat]

I think she succeeded in life.

[Deontay Cabba]

She succeeded, right. But so, so, so she went outside of like the cultural norm, which is find a man, get married, raise babies, woody, woo, woo. A lot of women are choosing to commit to a career.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

And naturally. So this on the back end of them having grandmothers who dedicated their whole life to being a wife and a mother and mothers who became mamas but then wanted to still be outside. And now they just completely outside and they've taken themselves out of the relationship thing in order to be able to take care of themselves first. So they're not living at the wheel of a man in his decision making. Right. Not under the thumb of a man. You know, this is real shit. Now she's wanting to be successful. And for one, it takes a long time to be a psychiatrist, psychotherapist, you know what I'm saying? That's a long road. Today there's multiple degrees, living in New York City, living good. New York City, single for eight years. Because she's likely been in a relationship with her career. Now this does intimidate me because when we go look at. Now, this is surface level. Okay? I'm not judging you. I'm just saying surface level from what everybody picks up on media when we go to these balloon shows and 20v ones and shit like that.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Deontay Cabba]

Always worried about whether A can cook or clean. I'm sorry for calling you a. I'm working on that. Right. They always worried about whether women can cook or clean. You know, they worried about their domestic duty. And she's looking for partnership. But she also don't want to raise up a nigga or invest into a nigga and take care of him. But she also don't want to be somebody's side piece. So she's having trouble in New York City finding somebody that's equally yoked. Now, come on down to Atlanta, Perry. A lot of black professionals out here with good careers, baby. Good careers, Good careers. But you know, I think the other thing just come with success with men and things like that. Is this cheating? Like.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

You know what I'm saying? Like option options open up and find it hard to stay loyal. You understand what I'm saying? So we got a lot of factors at play. Dating dabs is just for meeting up to.

[Big Cat]

That's what it is. It's just an escort service. That's all it is.

[Deontay Cabba]

It's a personal escort. Yeah, I'm hoarding, you know, I'm putting myself out There for to be a. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, pretty much.

[Deontay Cabba]

She's looking for something serious. And there's pitfalls today. This is the thing, the pendulum gonna swing right when you go. When you go against the tradition because you understand that it didn't work, it's not in your best interest, and you want a career. The pendulum swings away from relationship into career, which makes it harder for the relationship. Women that choose relationship find it harder to establish careers. So there's a balance there that hasn't been found yet because we're in a shifting area of women going after careers, you know what I'm saying? And we also are in a shifting area of, like, men like ourselves advocating for men to get out the street and go. And go into these trades, going to academia. It's gonna, you know, this is the, the, the. This is the dilemma of the millennial.

[Big Cat]

Right, Absolutely.

[Deontay Cabba]

Choosing. Choosing to do things differently, but still kind of wanting that traditional way of doing things. And you just can't have both.

[Big Cat]

Nah.

[Deontay Cabba]

I'm sure things will pan out. After being single for eight years, it's probably like, all right. Something gotta shake.

[Big Cat]

Some gotta shake.

[Deontay Cabba]

But don't go get that white man sister.

[Big Cat]

Nah, nah, nah.

[Deontay Cabba]

All right.

[Big Cat]

When in doubt, big headed out, baby. New York City. She's a doctor. She's in Manhattan. Great condo on fire. I know she in Manhattan right now. That's why she keep meeting out the gay brothers.

[Deontay Cabba]

Yeah, she's.

[Big Cat]

She in lower Manhattan right now. She gotta go uptown, baby. Holla at your boy. Holla at Big Cat. We go go uptown, get a chopped cheese polo grounds. I'll show you around, baby.

[Deontay Cabba]

I'm an email. I'm gonna email it. But when in doubt, big Canada.

[Big Cat]

Big Canada. Yeah, also, but I need help.

[Deontay Cabba]

I need help.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna help you.

[Deontay Cabba]

You help me Help you. You help me, Big Cat. You in good hands, Big Cat. Because I'm gonna keep him accountable.

[Big Cat]

Hold me accountable.

[Deontay Cabba]

Award winning Big Cat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Cabba]

You know what I'm saying? Write an email. Big Cat.

[Big Cat]

Ain't no just playing now.

[Deontay Cabba]

I'm just playing. Hey, man. Hey, listen, I'm not gonna let you, let them, let them tell you down like that, brother.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no, no, no. Not at all. But she'll be all right, though.

[Deontay Cabba]

Good cup of joe. Should be okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'll be all right. I'm gonna email you. Yeah, Advice. Shit's getting crazy. Oh, what's good, y' all? I tried to call in the voicemail, but I got anxious, so I figured it would be easier to effectively convey my thoughts this way. I've been making art, music, video, graphic design, etc for basically all my teenage years up until now. I'm 25, but somewhere along the way I found socialism sort of altered my host perspective on the industry aspect of arts. Because of that, I decided I wasn't into doing any of this for money anymore. I got a job dishwashing, been doing art for the love again, which feels freeing especially consider I would have done the shit for free. In fact, in some cases the that wanted to pay me, the that want to pay me, I wouldn't work with for free. Which is weird that as soon as I flipped the switches when started to pick up like crazy, like Brian at Pink Sifu and he asked me for some beats and a bunch of other crazy that I couldn't have predicted, it's got me feeling conflicted because I love this and clearly I'm good at it, but ideologically I feel at odds. What do y' all think? P.S. deontay, if you want to get back on the raps, I got some joints for you, playboy. We got something special. We got something coming soon.

[Big Cat]

Grits Niggs.

[Deontay Cabba]

Radio Chris Next radio. Check me out. This is the thing. Discovering socialism in a capitalist society is a mind, okay? Because you see what things could be. You go look at Japan and things and you see how like how well structured, like how their infrastructure is and how they look out for their citizens. It's a mind fuck. But there's pros and cons to everything. You live in a capitalist society, take advantage of it. The thing is if you good, you can pick and choose. So pick and choose. If Pink Sifu wants some beats, charge them what you should charge and get your beats out there and that's gonna bring more money. Capitalism doesn't mean like to reject capitalism for a life of being broke. A broke dishwasher who has this amazing, amazing talent that could change your life. It's just not smart and it's also like not ideal. And then you shouldn't feel bad for getting what you worth. You've worked hard, you've built yourself into a way where your art and your skill set is recognizable. Go make you some money. Just don't take any money, you know, I mean all good and money and good all money and good money. And I also understand like not wanting it to be your career and shit like that, where, you know, sometimes when we do things that we love and it gets to a point where it becomes a job, we kind of lose some passion for it. So you've already been through that phase of like, I'm gonna get back to just doing it for the love. But now you got people reaching out, and you released yourself. That's why I came. Cause you released yourself of trying to make it a career, even if that's what you really wanted, right? The discovery of socialism may just be, you know, a good guy for, like, how you want to do things. You know what I mean? It'll help you. When you in a situation where you should show some love, you'll be able to show love. I don't do. I don't charge for every interview, but some I do, you know what I'm saying? Like, hold on one second. That's what I was saying about submitting when I was in the truck, you know, I wanted more, you know, like I wanted. I always felt like I had a knack for speaking, you know, my love and passion for music and film and things like that. And I always felt like I had great taste. I always felt like I had good takes, you know what I'm saying? Things like that. But once I released myself and said, you know what, I might just drive trucks for the rest of my life, and that's gonna be okay. That's when everything started happening. But I also discovered socialism as well. And it's like, you just learn. You learn how to be a socialist, right? Me shouting out people, you know, with this platform, I should charge people to come on. I should charge people for shout outs. I should charge people for story posts. That's the capitalist shit where you trying to make. You trying to capitalize on every opportunity, right? But that ain't how you gonna build community. And that's not the way that, you know, that's not the way that Karl Marx would have it, you know what I'm saying? But the thing is, it's like I pick and choose, you know what I'm saying? When I know that it's solely transactional for you, then it's solely transactional for me. When I can feel the love, then I show the love. You know what I'm saying? And sometimes you can't show love on everything. When there's travel involved and room and board expenses and things like that, and people want you in other cities, then you gotta make sure that you're accommodated, you're valuable. If somebody like Pink Seafood reaches out, like, you know, take advantage of the opportunity because that opportunity breeds other opportunities. But to completely reject capitalism in a capitalist society is just to condemn yourself to a life of like poverty, just real shit, you know what I mean? Use the information that you have to wiggle through your system the best way you know how. Because a lot of the capitalism we talk about is just like unfettered capitalism. Like Elon Musk putting a supercomputer in an area that is already stricken by poverty for profit and subjecting them people to environmental racism. That's unfettered capitalism. That's him capitalizing by any means necessary, no matter who's affected by it. You know that's gonna have harmful effects on generations of black people. He doesn't give a fuck because he only care about money. That's gonna have harmful effects on generation of people who use the Mississippi River. He doesn't give a fuck. He only cares about money. You're not Elon Musk, my nigga, you know what I'm saying? You're mindful enough to say I don't wanna harm and I don't want to submit my life to paper chasing. So you won't. But also don't undervalue yourself. Like, go get your money, bro. Go make your money. You make. Okay, if you don't want to involve yourself in capitalism, then quit your dishwashing job. You see what I'm saying? Like you don't like. It's not about not making money. You know what I'm saying? That's not the issue here. You don't want to become a staunch capitalist and you won't because you don't want to. But go get what you worth. Let's get some of these voicemails. We can get up out of there.

[C]

Hey, Deontay, my name is Ray. I just want to say I really love what you're doing with your platform. You've really helped me a lot with the stuff that. Not the stuff I'm going through, but just being black, I guess. But I called to ask some advice on how to be educated as a black man in today's America, because I don't. It's not that I. I'm just sitting here just listening to your podcast and just being. I read books, I read articles, I keep up with information, you know, I keep up with. I got TikTok on all the forms of social media that keep up with you, Justice Scott, others that I watch. But I just feel like if we, if I was to have a conversation with you or someone who's highly educated in black spaces, all I could do is respond and I can't add to that conversation. And I was. This is like, my third time trying to make this phone call because I'm just scared that I'm either going to be judged or it's going to be called ignorance. Yeah, I don't. I don't. And I really don't know what to do, really. So I just love it. If you would help me out, let me know. Thank you so much.

[Deontay Cabba]

When I was on that trash talk thing, he asked me, like, what are you a master of, right? And I was like, I'm not a master of anything. Like, I'm too young to be a master. I'm still a student, right? And that's how I truly feel. Regardless of how others may feel, I don't view myself like that. I'm still a student. You staying a student, I've had bad takes. I've been ignorant about things. I've said things from a place of thinking. I know. And more information was presented to me. And I think the biggest fear is that we don't know how to say, okay, I was wrong, and that's okay. That's a learning opportunity. The fear is that you haven't expressed your intellect, so you don't have any confidence in your intellect, and you have to express yourself. You know, gathering information does you good, but not engaging with that information from a knowledgeable standpoint don't do nobody good. You have to put your voice out there if that's how you see fit. You're not ignorant. Okay. There's just a lack of intellectual confidence, Right. It took me a long time to get here, but I always been like this, right? You can't. I can't expect you ask anybody I grew up with. Like, they was like, bro, this nigga always been like this. You know what I'm saying? So, like, this is just who I am. So the goal isn't to replicate what I do or be me. The goal is to understand that 85 of this is just bold and confident. Like, I'm just bold enough to say this. I'm just confident enough that I have the information. I'm confident in the information. I'm confident in the knowledge that I've gained. I'm confident in my way to articulate it as well. But that come from years. Years of just speaking, years of getting in trouble for speaking, years of saying shit at the wrong time. You know what I'm saying? But just being bold enough, like, I feel like I should say it, you. You build confidence through repetition. So if you're not engaging in these intellectual conversations, you're going to feel inept. But it's just a lack of experience and you need to go into spaces where you feel comfortable and spark up conversations. You need to learn the art of small talk. You understand what I'm saying? Like, I'm real. I'm fine. Small talk because I know how to steer the conversation from something mundane into something more serious. I really want to get. Get to know where the person at because we never probably gonna see each other again. So if you want to engage in some petty. Let's get into some real. You see what I'm saying? But you got to get the reps in. And also it starts with like talking to your friends about and. And putting your perspective out there. Maybe your friends don't understand how intelligent you are, but you put it out there and they be like, damn, I ain't know you shit. That'll give you some confidence. It's just about confidence, baby. You know, if you got the information, the information is good. It's about how you articulate it. And you won't learn how to articulate it until you vocally do it. Best of luck to you, bro. Thanks for calling in. Deontay Kyle, host of the AAMBC Literary Award winning podcast Grit 6. You know what time it is. You know what time it is. You know what time it is, baby. What up, man? Big ice cup cat. Congrats on your work being heard and digested to the people. This is Sham from Shamy Potting. I just wanted to call in and congratulate y' all. We have enough just bullshitting pause on the airwaves. And I'm glad that we have something refreshing coming out of ga, you know what I'm saying? Educating. I mean to. That was a more. That was not advice. That's Shan Chan. Shan be showing hella love.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Cabba]

Thank you for the love, Shan. I'll listen to that. On a personal note, we're going to see. We'll get one more in and then we'll get up out of here.

[D]

Yo. So my name is Tate. I work for a community center. My background is in higher education. And a lot of the content y' all post, y' all asking about how we can, as a people, help and support our own people. The center I work for, we do a lot of community outreach work. We do a lot of work when it comes to that and you know, having a space for the youth for little to no money that they can come and have another space to be embraced, supported and uplifted. And the question is, so what I'm doing right now feels valuable. It has a little turmoil in the mix when it comes to some, some staff issues and upper management. But how can I use this as a platform to really push black kids? Because we write slap down in the hood down south. How can I use this to really provide a better space for these kids? How can I use this as a way to really push the pro black movement? I'm a big proponent of helping your people first and looking out for the people right in your backyard for you going go across town to help out folks. So I don't have kids. I just got me and my, my wife, my wife to be. And you know, this is a time where I have a luxury of time that a lot of other people don't. So that's all I was wondering. And if they make the pot, you know, if y' all give me any more opportunities to, to get into that, let me know. And again, my name is Lante Green. Hear me appreciate what y' all doing.

[Deontay Cabba]

I think, hey man, you already doing it. The thing is, is that I think we undermine the impact that we're making on people. Right. In a real way. I think that everybody thinks the way to be impactful is it has to be huge movements and extremely notoriety, having an extreme amount of notoriety when the reality is like small little things. You're changing those kids lives every day. Facts by being there, by showing up. As you stay in that position, you'll learn more actionable ways to involve community. And it's going to be about getting more adults involved in what you do in your local community. Because you know, before we could change, you know, the block, we gotta fix one house at a time. You know what I'm saying? So you down there fixing your house and once your house is completed, the people around you are gonna be curious about how you fix that house. And you'll be able to lend advice to those who are now interested in fixing their house. You'll be able to go lend your time, your effort and your knowledge into helping them fix their house. But you don't know the impact you're having on a child right now. I'm still impacted by teachers that I had in, in middle and elementary school. I'm still impacted by teachers I had in high school. You don't understand the impact that you're having. Because the thing is, it's like one child at a time for real. Like, you may be a father figure for a child that don't have a daddy. You may be a father figure for a child even with a Father. But, you know, sometimes you can express yourself a little better with your uncle than you can your own dad. You know what I'm saying? You may. You're just like. You don't understand. I think you're undermining the work that you're already doing, you know what I'm saying? And I get it. We want to do more. Because the effects of years and years of systemic racism, years and years of poverty, years and years of mental health issues and environmental racism has had such an effect on our people that we feel like the little things we doing aren't making a big enough impact. But you gotta also understand that it took years and years to get to this place, you know what I'm saying? They played the long game with their evil shit. Good gotta play the long game too. But good will always prevail, you know what I'm saying? I think that just don't undermine the impact that you're already having now. And as well as with that, as you stay in that field, you're gonna discover ways to make it more impactful. But right now, you doing the work, bro, a lot of people just ain't doing it, you know what I'm saying? So we do. We can hear by amplifying those voices. Like the next part that's gonna come out is with Justin Ellis Brooks, and he's using his GI bill to help feed the homeless in la. And he's done it twice already this year. And he's trying to raise more money and things like that. And we're gonna start an initiative where if we can get 10,000 listeners to give $1, that'll help him feed a thousand people. You understand what I'm saying? Because he's fed 100 with 1200 and he fed over 500 with. I think he said it was like 34, 3700. So if we can help him get to that $10,000 mark. Because it takes money to do these things. It takes money to destroy shit too. It would took a lot of money for Elon to put that supercomputer in that neighborhood. And it's taking even more money to help cool that computer down, but it's causing destruction in the process. Destruction is expensive as well. But the things that you're doing, what you're doing for those kids is priceless. Just keep doing what you're doing. We appreciate you, brother, for helping. And I'm pretty sure your community appreciates you as well. Big Cat, you got anything else, baby?

[Big Cat]

Excuse me, I'm sorry. Yeah, sure.

[Deontay Cabba]

I do. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Today's mathematics, baby.

[Deontay Cabba]

Oh, what's today's mathematics, baby?

[Big Cat]

Today is the first knowledge that's number one on attending mathematics. The absence of confusion, knowing that the black man is the center of his family, like the sun is the center of the universe. You keep everything in orbit, baby. You keep everything shiny. You keep everything lit. It's up to you. The black man Foundation Knowledge. Peace.

[Deontay Cabba]

Peace to the gods in the earth, baby.

[Big Cat]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Deontay Cabba]

Peace to the gods in the earth. Yeah, man. 6067 Episode 70 70, 70, 70 in man go check out that last episode with united we heal so you can learn more about black film festivals as it pertains to you. If you are a filmmaker, director, or have career aspirations of doing so. They give out a lot of good information on the role that black film festivals play. And we're gonna introduce a new concept. We're gonna start a music club on a new music Monday. So tap in with that, we have actionable tool to do so. So tap in, tap in, Tap in. Hosted by none other than the big G K a T, big ice cup, big ow. This has been episode 70. I am your host, Deontay cowboy who's.

[Big Cat]

Behind the camera ready to knock a nigga out. Cat.

[Deontay Cabba]

Take care of yourself, take care of each other. And for you niggas is hanging. Find you something safe to do. We'll see you next week.