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Deontay Kyle
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty south with a dirty mouth Might need or bit miss things things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my no rest fusion she gorgeous as I doubt my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead Tell them we gonna get this money pockets morbid Remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't gotta like a regardless, baby, I'm blessed.
Deontay Kyle
And I keep that blick with me.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee Flick your cigarette and let a vent yeah, we back.
Deontay Kyle
Oh, we back. Chris and Eggs podcast, episode 72. There's only one thing we can call this episode. We back. We back, baby. Hiatus.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Long hiatus.
Deontay Kyle
Long hiatus it is. They thought they lost us.
Big Ice Cup Cat
They thought we was gone.
Deontay Kyle
Thought we was gone. We ain't went nowhere. I came back with a Yankee fitted on. Yeah. I'm your host, Deontay Cabo, who's behind the camera. Big O.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Smokestack Lightning Cat is back, baby. Smokes back Lightning Big ice cup.
Deontay Kyle
Man, we missed y' all, man. So go ahead and do the. Do the originals. What you looking for?
Big Ice Cup Cat
The mic. It keeps. I don't know.
Deontay Kyle
It's a volume thing.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It's not a volume thing. It's like it's a shortage in the mic.
Deontay Kyle
It just keeps in the mic.
Big Ice Cup Cat
In the. In the. In the jack.
Deontay Kyle
In the headphones.
Big Ice Cup Cat
In the headphones? Yeah, the headphones. It keeps cutting out. Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
All right, well, just know you heard, baby.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It's okay.
Deontay Kyle
Just know we can hear you. It's all right.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I'm used to having a mic sometimes. It's okay. Doesn't bother me. We can take it back.
Deontay Kyle
I don't.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We can take it back.
Deontay Kyle
We can't.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We can't. We can't.
Deontay Kyle
We can't. No, we need you. We need you. We need you. Because as everybody know, you are the host of New Music Monday.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I am.
Deontay Kyle
All right.
Big Ice Cup Cat
New Music Mondays.
Deontay Kyle
Ain't done this in a while. Feel good to be back in this seat.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We back, baby.
Deontay Kyle
We back. Deontayeontecowell.com for all your advice, submissions, inquiries, booking, a lot of booking.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You were booked up.
Deontay Kyle
To this thing on the world tour.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. You booked up, baby.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah. We got some advice submission today. We got some email submission. We got some voicemails. Voicemails from 657234X. That's 657234. Three, four, for seven. We're gonna. We're gonna implement that into the Patreon Gritson next. Patreon. Nothing but $8. $8 Grits and Eggs podcast on Patreon. It's $8.
Big Ice Cup Cat
$8.
Deontay Kyle
First of all, shout out to all the cousins that held it down in our hiatus because we ain't even dropping our Patreon episodes.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
And y' all held it down. Y' all ain't go nowhere. A couple of y. I can see that shit.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Yeah, cool.
Deontay Kyle
50 of y' all dipped out on us.
Big Ice Cup Cat
50.
Deontay Kyle
But guess what? Yeah, well, we lost. We gained back. We got a hundred more. Oh, and shout out to. So. Okay, let's give him a little walkthrough. Okay, let's finish the plugs. Deontay at Deontay. Deontay. Kyle on Instagram and TikTok. We are staying off of Twitter.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, you gotta stay off Twitter, boy.
Deontay Kyle
Gotta stay off Twitter. We'll address that a little later on in the episode. Don't drink and sweet. You can mean what you say. Drunk man tells no lie.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Time and a place for everything.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It is.
Deontay Kyle
My mama told me that I broke one of the golden rules. You're looking at the AAMBC award winning podcast, Grizzly Nay's podcast. But we are also nominated for a BIA award and those voter. What is the polls? The polls are. The polls are open.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We back Big ice cup. Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Hold on, hold on.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh, yeah.
Deontay Kyle
In the description. It'll send you directly. Now, I'm not gonna tell you who else to vote for. I got my ideas of who you should vote for in these other categories, but I'm not, you know, I don't want to be accused of misusing my influence.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Okay.
Deontay Kyle
So you can vote for us. Podcast of the year. Grits and eggs podcast. That'll be two. It's up to you. You gotta vote.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Gotta vote.
Deontay Kyle
The polls are open now. Let's have 92% show up for us.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Not the country.
Deontay Kyle
Not this country. Show up for us.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Show up for the grits and eggs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a black cause.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
We doing good work over here. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we had the. We had the. The. The. The lunch program with the young b. With the babies in East Point. It was a. It was a. It was a. It was a good turnout for what it was. Okay, but we've. I've partnered with them and decided that if they give me more notice, we'll have a better turnout. So we could do more promotion. So BIA is in the description. Go vote. We also have Grizznegsfield Day. Only for the cousin.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Only for the cousin.
Deontay Kyle
And if you don't know what that.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Mean, well, you're not a cousin.
Deontay Kyle
You're not a cousin. That's too damn bad. Also with the Patreon, you get things like this.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Cousin, cousin, mugs.
Deontay Kyle
Hold on. What did it say on the back? Zoom in on that, Tristan. Members only. Oh, that's a part of that. That's what you get when you get that Patreon subscription. $8. $8. You get two episodes. You get exclusive merch that's only available on the Patreon. You get first dibs on the merch that'll be available to the public, first dibs on any lives events that we do. And a live stream once a month with a call in feature. You can call in and get our how we're stirring on. Right. For $8. That's a lot shit better than Netflix. Yeah, I might have to up the tier like Joe Budden.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That's a lot of incentives.
Deontay Kyle
You get a lot of incentives. Tell me you ain't got eight for. You had two fo. Fo today.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, you did.
Deontay Kyle
You ate two for fo. For foes.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, you did. Big back.
Deontay Kyle
Big back your Big Mac ass eating all them goddamn four for foes. Why don't you go eight for eight?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, get more.
Deontay Kyle
This is the original Netflix.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Remember was eight dollars.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It was eight dollars.
Deontay Kyle
It was eight dollars. All right, bro.
Big Ice Cup Cat
What's up, son? We back now.
Deontay Kyle
We back. We got. We got some things.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We got some things.
Deontay Kyle
We got a couple things. All right. Went to New Orleans. Bayou heat hit. You hugged.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You bear hug.
Deontay Kyle
Hey, hoes on. Yeah, I had a. Bigger than that. M. Good. Bigger than that. Big.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Bigger than that.
Deontay Kyle
First of all, open up the bag. Ain't nothing but grease and powdered sugar.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That's it.
Deontay Kyle
Don't mind them.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Eating them like the daily off of Princess and the Frog. Good. Bigger than that. So we're gonna start y' all on a. So these are the. These are the circumstances, right? My auntie passed away. I get drunk the next day, shoot out a tweet, and then I go to New Orleans. We'll address the tweets and stuff later. And we'll address my auntie passing away. So recipes. My auntie Rhonda, recipes to big cat. Cousin.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. My cousin Sierra Javon Hosey. Rest in peace, baby.
Deontay Kyle
Rest in peace. So that was a big Incident that, that's what led into the hiatus. We had to go do some, spend some family time. But, you know, big deontay. I had some contractual obligations.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
You know what I'm saying? Don't care about more than grief when that black and white. Yeah, they care.
Big Ice Cup Cat
They care.
Deontay Kyle
But these good people. But we got dates.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
You know what I'm saying? We got things set.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
We got obligations.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We expect you to be there.
Deontay Kyle
We expect you to be there. Yeah. So I, I basically traveled and a lot of grief in that traveling. I, I, I would say this. I. The day of the United Wheel Film Festival hosting is the first day where I felt like back like myself. And that was on the 20th.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
So we, and she passed on the 7th. So we had her, we had her funeral and repass yesterday. Great funeral. She did get cremated.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Okay.
Deontay Kyle
But all the people that showed up, like all those people that showed up from her job, you know what I'm saying? Like all the family showed up. But we're gonna get in that, we gonna get into some of my opinions on that because you know what we like to say at funerals, like don't let this be the last time and things like that. Right. That's a bit of millennial overcorrection on our behalf, but we'll get into that.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Okay.
Deontay Kyle
New Orleans was great. We were down there to do media for a film called these Walls Wear Thin that would be shot in Louisiana. The synopsis of this film is an inmate is up for parole, but due to racism on the behalf of the CEOs, they basically him over where his parole got denied. Basically, they put him in a position where he had to react or defend himself and led to him not being eligible for parole. He summons the spirits of all inmates past in that jail and they come back and they murder the correctional officers. That's the synopsis. Now who doesn't want to see that? The writer and director of this also is the writer and director. No, the writer of episode seven, season one of Fallout.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Okay.
Deontay Kyle
So he, he got, he got some good chops. Emmy. He also has won an Emmy.
Big Ice Cup Cat
All right.
Deontay Kyle
For some of his work. Chaz Hawkins. Great fella. Shout out to him and him and Jordan. I'm. Let me give Jordan's name right.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Give Jordan the proper love.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jordan. Jordan's a great guy. Him and Jordan Webb. Jordan Webb is the music director for this film. They've put up, they've set up a songwriting camp. So we were there in New Orleans on Forrette And Valance. Oh.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh, wow. You were where he was where?
Deontay Kyle
He was right there by. We was on. We was on Valance on Valley. Simon know you like my Dawn. John. Got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out bg. So we was right there. Beautiful, beautiful situation. The owner of the house is very, very influential in the community and assembled some local artists to be a part of this songwriting camp. Basically, it's a soundtrack camp. They want to bring back the soundtrack. So the soundtrack is being made around the film, but also culturally around the sounds of Louisiana because that's where it's made. So, bruh. I have never been in a presence in a room with that many talented people. Every person there wears so many hats, whether it be this one dude. He's a rapper, he's a singer, he's a composer, he makes beats. A lot of those guys that were in there also rap and produce. Some of the crew from there was from Nashville Music City and our spearheading hip hop musical movement in Nashville and was invited down. Jordan Webb is from Nashville as well. Nashville area. And all of these talented people in this room for a week. We were there for three days. We were there in Media Prime Atl with me. Prime shout out to Prime Atl, who's also curating a creative event on July 4th. That'll be two days from the time this airs. July 4th also being my birthday.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Ow.
Deontay Kyle
Dollar sign Grace. Next podcast. Dollar Signs podcast.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Gonna throw me a little ten piece for my birthday. Hey, you know what? If you wanna give me something for my birthday, give me $8 to subscribe to the Chris Nick's Patreon. Yeah, yeah. We never gonna stop plugging that.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Nah.
Deontay Kyle
Also something we missed. June 12th, big cat day. Everybody wish Big Cat a happy birthday. Happy belated birthday.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. June 12th.
Deontay Kyle
Shut up. Hold on, hold on. Let's see, let's see.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Great day to Big Cat, man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, man. I'm definitely up now.
Deontay Kyle
I'm unk you 36. I'm unk you, you, you 30.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I'm unk son.
Deontay Kyle
I'll be 35.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Listen, I'm happy. I'm blessed. I feel good to be here, baby.
Deontay Kyle
You should be.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
We're doing great things.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, yeah.
Deontay Kyle
So. So I do interviews with every person there. Now, the typical person would interview the director and the music director because they're the main two components. I felt it necessary to give at least five to ten minutes to everybody that was involved. So the bassist, the pianist, the composer, the person who Just owned the spot, you know what I mean? Shout out to Big Nate. And all of these people have such interesting background. So though, that vlog is like a documentary style vlog that'll come out pretty soon in promotion for this film. And when the film is ready, they will premiere the trailer on the Grits and Eggs podcast. Ow. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. You know you with big Deontay.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Big grits and eggs.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Fiance, snap my fingers, Everything disappear. All the podcast disappear.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Everything goes. Joe Button just disappears in the mist.
Deontay Kyle
Start pixelating. Yeah, Big Deontay, snap my finger. All your podcast mics disappear. It's just me, me and big Ice Cop.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Now. We go. We go. We go. Leave. We're gonna leave. Poor minds, too. We gotta have them. We gotta have them. It can't just be us.
Deontay Kyle
Fine women right there, man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Some fine sisters.
Deontay Kyle
Great podcast, though. Yeah. Lex is hilarious.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yes.
Deontay Kyle
And fine. Yes, Drea, just fine. Heat seeing Dre out in the wild.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I know.
Deontay Kyle
Wildest girl. I approached her with my humblest voice. How you doing? My name is Deontay from the Chris. You may have heard of me. Maybe not. Yeah, Lakes has reached out. I just think it would be great if we made a connection, you know, do a podcast together.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Right.
Deontay Kyle
So great. I have heard about. God damn it.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Brought a tear to your eye, Glory. Yeah. Because there's some fine sisters.
Deontay Kyle
They fine. They're beautiful.
Big Ice Cup Cat
They beautiful.
Deontay Kyle
Gorgeous.
Big Ice Cup Cat
And they intelligent, too.
Deontay Kyle
They're everything.
Big Ice Cup Cat
They're. They're funny, intelligent.
Deontay Kyle
Oh, praise be to God.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
So that's New Orleans. We go do all the things we in New Orleans. So. So, so, so. So real budget we can see. We can see the budget in the bnb.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Okay.
Deontay Kyle
All right. You can see the budget in the bnb.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, that's a good budget.
Deontay Kyle
Private. Private elevator. Take you to floor nine. We on the penthouse. We have the top floor. Private balcony overlooking the city. You see the super dome.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
See the swamp. You can see everything. Like punch a train.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
See it all.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Beautiful. I said, man, how blessed am I to be here? You know, grateful Got rid. Self made cool with me.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Self made cool.
Deontay Kyle
Shot a couple videos while I was up. Oh, Shout out Prime Atlanta again. He makes vlogs look like movies. He's the best. So we walking back to the elevator. Only people on this ninth floor is. They all penthouses up here. Six beautiful women from New Orleans walk in, but their gaze is averted. They walk past me. Prime and cool. Like we're not even there. Right. I found that odd. Okay. Not on no fame shit. Purely on a vein tip.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
You know what I'm saying? Out of pure vanity. Who ain't gonna look at me? At least just one look and then keep it pushing. I ain't tripping on that. Hurt my feelings a little bit. Sit down. These fine bitches in New Orleans ain't fucking with the kid. Then we find out why.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Who came out the elevator, who in.
Deontay Kyle
So they walk straight line, beeline. They know where they're going. They have directions. Right. Mosey's around the corner. Five foot, five gangsta. You can tell by nigga presence. He had eye on him.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
I said, oh, okay. Everything's making sense. He's in charge.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
And he's got fire on him. You can tell by his work. Very slow, very confident. Very serious looking. Individual. Okay. He say. I was like, oh, shit. He say, you the Grizzneggs nigga. Huh? In that voice. I said, that's me. He said, you're a real motherfucking nigger.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Third war came out.
Deontay Kyle
I'm just. Third war. That motherfucker.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah. I almost did the beanie weenie. I was so happy he was on my side. He said, you're a real motherfucking nigga. It's a lot of bitch ass niggas out here, but you ain't one of them. Keep doing what you're doing. My hand, hard as shit. I was like, yes.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Ah.
Deontay Kyle
The streets fuck with me, nigga.
Big Ice Cup Cat
The streets. Gotta have the streets on me.
Deontay Kyle
Gotta have the street. The street fuck with me.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Same thing. Walking down. Walking down Farrette. Mm. I'm at the corner of Farrett and Magnolia. Just walking. I'm. This is the thing about me. I ain't scared of niggas.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
And not out of a cocky or confidence. I just feel like that where I.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Belong, that's where I'm at.
Deontay Kyle
I love niggas, right? So I'mma be where niggas is at all the time. Nigga hopped out the whip, deontay motherfucking car. I was like, what's up, bro? It's two in the morning. He got soldier right around his nigga and everything. Person around. He own a gallery right now on the block. They buying back the block got you. They preserving New Orleans culture. Some of the best artwork that I have seen. That's New Orleans. We got a little dizzies. We got neos. We do all the things. We get us some big Internet. We hit the road. We get back to Atlanta. I post in Atlanta. For two days straight to Philadelphia. Time to host a united W.E. hill Film Festival.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh, my God, what a time.
Deontay Kyle
What a time. I was in Philly. Me and Swave. I was in Philly with Swave. First night, I had no obligations. I called Suave. I said, let's. Let's do something, brother. Me and him go to 15 spots. We go to 15 spots. 12 of them. We stay for five minutes. This ain't it. We did. First spot we go to. We just, you know, getting to know each other type vibes. So we shots. We drinking, mixed drinks. We smoking, hookah. All these vibes. Great vibes. It was just us in there. It felt like they rent. We rented the out.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
It was lit. We go to the next spot. This is where things get a little tricky.
Big Ice Cup Cat
All right.
Deontay Kyle
Two dollar shots. Oh, two dollars. Two dollars.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Shout out to Philly.
Deontay Kyle
Espalone the espanolos. Two shot, two dollars. He walk up to the bartender like this. Eight shots.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Eight shots. Eight shots.
Deontay Kyle
I said, what the fuck are we doing? But this is the thing about me. I go double shot every time. Oh, so basically two shots.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Hookah. We get some of that in.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Okay.
Deontay Kyle
I go back up to the bar. Let's do eight more.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Eight more shots is crazy. Sixteen shots is crazy.
Deontay Kyle
Sixteen shots. We in her dancing. He in there dancing, dancing. He doing. He. He doing the chip to before I let you go. He. He entered.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
That's a tall, too, man. Six foot seven. Liberian. Oh, Muslim. Devout. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Hookah go out. We order another hookah. Boom. We're having a good time. DJ's spinning. No.
Big Ice Cup Cat
My God.
Deontay Kyle
We go 20 FOMO, 24 shots.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That's crazy.
Deontay Kyle
On the 11th shot, we down that bitch. We look at each other. We point to that. That's not happening. We can't do 12 shots a piece in this bitch. So we leave, and it's a blur. We both got back home safe.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Good.
Deontay Kyle
It was a good time. I was in a rental. Next day, crazy hangover, I bet. Crazy hangover. But I gotta work. We go to the pre game, which is the first music night for the United Woodhill Film Festival. They have music night. All those acts, three totally different acts doing three totally different things. All of them doing masterfully. All of them were great. Boom. June 19th, Juneteenth. I go up top. I go to the Big Apple Victory Light Podcast. Go there, kick with my dog Mero. And Ben Boss and I go. Ben Boss and Rainey, Liz Ortiz. So much love in that Building. I wore Timberlands. I got them tagged.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
I go see my auntie in Bed Style afterwards. She still lives in the same apartment. Everything looks the same. New paint on the walls.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Nothing's gonna change.
Deontay Kyle
Nothing in Bed Style has changed. No. We pull up, it's in lawn chairs, sitting on the steps.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, that's Bed Style.
Deontay Kyle
That's Bed Style. Summertime, Bedford Stuyvesant. Why not lie from Bedford Stuyvesant? The line represent MBK to the fullest. Bought this hat there. Yeah, had to. I had on Tim's. Then we go south back to New Jersey. Stop in Brown. Browning. We stopped somewhere in New Jersey to do the not too serious podcast. Great guys over there. Out of fucking pocket, Mike, specifically. Those niggas are out of their minds. They will say anything. Safe to say. I won't be going back on that one.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That too much.
Deontay Kyle
Those niggas are crazy. But I had a great time. We come back, get some sleep. Next day, it's the big show. United We Hill Film Festival. 11 films, all of them 8.5 or better. We talking about, and we talking about from the standard of. These are independent films, independently written, independently directed and shot Fire. All of them. Very good. I had a good time hosting. There was an article written about me being a host. Said I was impeccable. Wow. I've already been invited back to host next year, and I've accepted. Now, Ms. Roberts and Ms. Banks, you have to understand, next year, the price is going up.
Big Ice Cup Cat
The price is up, baby.
Deontay Kyle
The price is going up. Cause Tyler, the creator, yeah. Mentioned me in an article. Me and the cutting room floor, we're the only ones doing this thing the right way. Tyler. Creator don't like nothing.
Big Ice Cup Cat
He don't like anything.
Deontay Kyle
He actually has made a career out of hating things. Yeah, but he's a hater, not a liar. Ah, come on, Tyler. So let's get to the afters.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Okay.
Deontay Kyle
After hours, after party. Zack Fox.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Mm.
Deontay Kyle
Okay. Now, you may have seen our shenanigans. Me and Zack Fox met at 11. He went on at 12. We hung out the rest of the night. Yeah, and we hung out till five in the morning, just vibing. That's my twin. For real. Shout out. My brother, Zach Fox. Same mama, different daddy, same mustache.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Ah.
Deontay Kyle
Next day, don't call me white girl, man. I'm. I'm talking about. I'm working.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, you're working.
Deontay Kyle
I'm working.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, I'm.
Deontay Kyle
I'm sad, but I'm working.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You're working.
Deontay Kyle
Don't call me white girl. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. Phenomenal.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Shout out to Mona.
Deontay Kyle
Shout out to Mona, man. Love you, Mona. Shout out, my boy Zach. Shout out, Phelps. Shout out the whole team over there, Ebony, everybody that was involved. Next day, I just. I just. I go to dc. I was supposed to do an interview with El Cousto. He couldn't get the lot. The. The flight corrected because he had a late show. Missed his flight. All good. Guess what I do. I just go around dc, get some good food. Hey, Canes, Trinidadian haka spice ribs.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Shout out to Tall city.
Deontay Kyle
Flight of rum. 5 year, 10 year, 15 year age. Rum.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Hey.
Deontay Kyle
I mean, DC started feeling like Trinidad James when I walked out that bitch.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Did you float away?
Deontay Kyle
I did. I don't remember leaving. I just remember showing back up at the hotel.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Just wrapped up in dreads.
Deontay Kyle
Just floated away. Nigga, nigga, nigga. Popped up in the hotel. Next day, fly back in early morning flight, land interview episode 73. Duran Bernard. Great interview. Yeah, that was it. God damn it. Working.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You've been working, baby.
Deontay Kyle
Working.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Definitely been working.
Deontay Kyle
Big cat couldn't come. Philly. I was mad as fuck.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Hey, I was. I wasn't mad. I was a little sad, but I wasn't mad, though.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah, family first.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Family first. Always gotta take care of family business.
Deontay Kyle
Man, what a recap. Man, what a fucking. It was. It was a long three weeks, but we are back.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Now, one thing that was said quite a few times in my auntie funeral yesterday was this thing about life be lifein' yeah, we find a lot of excuses on why we don't show up for the people we love while they're living. Now, I have some regret behind me and my auntie's relationship. Upon her passing, there was, in hindsight, petty things that kept us from being in communication. Things that I took seriously when it happened. But as time went on, we could have gotten it together. We could have found some place of understanding. But that pride is a motherfucker. And that millennial overcorrection. A lot of millennials have embraced this idea of individualism, right? The cut your folks off if they don't respect your mind, if they don't want to treat you like an adult, if they don't respect your sexuality, if they don't respect your politics, if they don't respect your ideology. You just cut them off for a better you. And then I would say that trend had an uptick of around five years ago. Seriously, during the pandemic, people were getting to the point where they was like. They feel like they was In a bubble, social media had became the outlet for everybody. It became a place of connection, but it become a place of digital community, but not real community. So a lot of us embrace this individualism, right? And I will say this now, there's a pros and cons to everything. We also have to understand that we are in a swing of a pendulum, right? So a lot of things that we've done is it. We've. We've was raised in this traditional aspect, this religious aspect and what we call the old world, pre Internet. And then we were, we were raised in that until we were between the ages of maybe 8, 14, then we get the Internet. Internet is what it is. We got the Y2K, we go through World Trade attacks. Do do, do, do. We get off, we get on MySpace and then we start. This is where we start our digital communities on MySpace, right? That we. Your top eight, you know, you go to school with 1200 people, you got a top eight. And what were we doing? This is where we started incentivizing online friendships. You know, if I put you in my top eight, put me in your top eight. We start doing all of these, all of these things that breed insecurity about how visible we are in other people's lives on the Internet, right? Facebook comes right along. Facebook is the small town, you know, this is the interconnectedness of not only the people you go to school with, but your close family friends, your aunties, your cousins, childhood friends. You reconnect with people you went to elementary school with. We start embracing these online communities and it becomes the focal point of our socialization. And a lot of our attention is giving over to these online things, but not as much because it's still 2000, six, seven, eight, you know, you gotta get on a computer. The phones ain't really cracking like that, you know what I'm saying? Most you're doing on the phone is texting. For real, for real calling. We still T9, you know what I'm saying? But the Internet was a place that lived on a computer, on a box. It didn't live in our pockets just yet. As we Fast forward to 20, 20, 19, 2020, in the midst of the pandemic, the online communities that we built became paramount because the physical communities dissipated overnight by government regulation. Mask anti mask. People believe in it, People don't believe in it. The shot versus not getting the shot. Either way it went, we were incentivized to socially distance ourselves. Now, now look at that. Social distance. We embrace that idea, social distance, but we could be as close as we want to be. Online politics becomes a very major thing during this time. In the end of the first Trump presidency and the beginning of the Biden Harris presidency, people are very split between the left and the right. Politics becomes a very big focal point for us online. This is how we're gauging our communities and unbeknownst to ourselves, creating echo chambers of not only information but thought. And a lot of people realize that their elders are fairly conservative and even if they aren't Trumpers, they're Trump adjacent in their thinking. They're thinking along aligns more along with the right, usually a byproduct of religious thought, usually of Christian thought. So we decided to embrace ideology over religion. We create our own ideologies, we fall into these different sectors. We are in a space of self discovery as an individual. And a lot of us get a lot of encouragement online to cut off our family, cut off your parents, cut off anybody that doesn't think like you right now. In practice, this is good. You know, there's the pros and cons of everything. Being supported in the way that you think helps breed success in that thought process. And for you as an individual, the issue with that is being an individual is very essential to being a capitalist, to only think about yourself. While you say you have community, that community only zigs online. You can't go out and touch those people. The community that we got rid of is the community that we built with our family tradition. So we've put individualism over community and we've segregated ourselves and ostracized ourselves into these echo chambers of thought. Traditions create culture. But when we got rid of the religion, we divided ourselves with ideology. So we got to get to a place where we swing back that pendulum. We're on the extreme side of it. There's nothing wrong with it. This is how change happens. Change is a process, right? If it takes this long to indoctrinate somebody in their mind and then all of us when we get college age, decide to break away from these thoughts, thought processes and these traditions and these religious dogmas. When we decide to break away from that way of thinking and start to embrace our own individual thought processes and find like minded individuals, while it is good for the individual, it dissipates the community. You need opposition in thought to sharpen your own thoughts. One of the reasons why I don't often address things the people that disagree with me online is because they haven't articulated a disagreement. They just don't agree. Those may be out of that may be out of guilt, that may be out of shame, that may be out of anger because it directly is in opposition of their current thought process. There may be some cognitive dissonance involved. Now, before I move forward, I will address this. I understand that I have a responsibility with my platform as visible and as big as we've gotten. My mother raised me. Pick and choose your battles. Time and a place for everything. I did not pick and choose my battle. And I did say something at the wrong time and place. These ICE raids are extremely emotional for people. I do not support ice. I do not adhere to the idea of anybody being an illegal person. I don't give a fuck about mostly the country and what it stands for and its incarnation and how it's run. I will never be on the side of anything police or police adjacent. So I support the people that protest ice. I support the individuals who are going to be affected by this. I am not ignorant to the fact that it is not only going to affect Latinos, that it is going to affect Afro Caribbean people as well. All descendants of the diaspora who may be first or second generation immigrants of this country. I understand the effects. I was being reactionary. I was also drunk and I was being reactionary in response to Latino people calling out black people for, quote, seemingly not supporting them. When there has been a plethora of black people who continue to support the people who are going to be affected by these ICE raids, specifically Latino people. There's been a lot of black people who are loud and proud in their support because they understand that it's not just gonna affect them. Black Americans have an extreme understanding of how things are always gonna come back to affect us. So for anybody that's saying you're next, we were first. Ain't no next for black Americans. It's always now. I understand that. My reaction was stop calling out black Americans for the people that voted in lieu of knowing these events would happen. The 92% now, the execution was poor. My sentiments remain the same. Black Americans are not the guard dogs for your plight. We've been up against these things several times and we understand that as soon as something comes up against you, it's likely going to trickle down to us. We're seeing that now with Haitian Americans being deported, Jamaican Americans being deported, Afro Latinos being deported. We understood that this was the play. I, without any understanding or inhibition, tweeted that out, out of anger, in response to videos that I've seen where people are specifically calling out black Americans as if we don't have a history of empathizing and standing next to you in your fight. I'm not your guard dog. If people feel like they told you how you vote, it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? The voting, that's not a virtuous thing. That's, you know, that's American. That's democracy. You're gonna vote if you decided to vote against your own interest. And you in the find out phase, as people call it. You fucking around there, you finding out. I'm still gonna support you against this system of white supremacy. But you have to also understand that black people are not social justice robots. We're not just these benevolent beings that oppression, oppression, oppression detected. That's not who black Americans are. We also have our own subset of issues that exist within our community. Issues of financial poverty, issue of environmental racism, Issues of them erasing our fucking history. Issues of colorism, issues of classism. We have our own slew of issues that we could be forefronting at any given time. That's what we do here at the grizzneggs podcast. Bring our issues to the forefront. To make it seem like black people haven't had a history of being empathetic towards everybody's causes is intellectually dishonest. To try to make me the whipping post as this is the black American whipping post. We're put Deontay Kyle as the forefront and say he supports ice. No, I support black Americans first and foremost because that's a thing that we don't do often and we're chastised and criticized when we do put ourselves first. I'm never going to adhere to this idea of saying Hispanics deserve to be here because they're hard working and they're this and that and putting their labor first, which I talk about all the time. What you do with your body doesn't dictate your value. I don't value Hispanic people or people from the Latino community because of the work that they do with their labor. I value them because they're a human. I don't want to hear this isn't a black issue. This isn't a brown issue. This is a human issue. Every issue is a human issue. That's my issue. When the issue is that of a black American, it's not a human issue, is it? It's a black issue. That way you get to pick and choose when black people have feelings about how we're treated by other people of color and we're apathetic towards your plight. Now all Of a sudden, we're the problem. That doesn't make sense to me when constantly, time and time again, we've been shown that y' all are apathetic to our causes and only like to call on us when you need our help. Why do you need our help? Because we have a history of oppression in this country and we have a history of fighting back against that oppression in this country. So we got the blueprints. If you respected black Americans, you would go back and research what works we did in the civil rights movement, what works we did in the Pullman. Porter. I ain't got the information right now. It's right there on the tip of my tongue. But there have been several movements in this country since slavery since we got here. Several revolts since we got here. We've been fighting against this system since we got here. And we're going to continue to fight against this system. And we want to be in coalition with you. But. But your coalition cannot contain anti blackness and cannot contain apathy for black Americans. We want to coalesce with you. We've shown you time and time again that we're willing to be in coalition with you. I don't want to only be in coalition when the chips are down. I don't want to see black and brown pride in black and brown unity. When we're being attacked. When you're being attacked now we need black and brown pride. When we're being attacked. Now we need black and brown pride. No, we should have black and brown pride, period. There are also other people of color. It ain't just black Americans. Asian Americans, extremely silent. Don't hear you calling them out. Indian Americans, extremely silent. Don't hear you calling them out. Why? Because, you know, they're model minorities. You know the goal of those communities are to assimilate to whiteness. So you don't bother yourself to call them out. So then it gets to a point where it feels like you're punching down on me out of obligation. I've made the black American obligated to fight oppression for me. We're gonna do it anyway. But if niggas wanna take a step back and say, let me think about this, based on the way I've been treated by your community, we should be allowed to do that and you should be understanding of that. I don't feel like it's crazy for people to be hesitant or apprehensive about standing by your side when the only time you want me to stand by your side is when that white dog come out and start biting niggas. Because when the white dog land and he chilling, I will vote for Donald Trump. You don't think that's ringing it? Stop acting like your actions don't have consequences. Stop saying oh, gonna say to me, oh, solidarity is transactional. Yeah. When you do it, don't try to make. Don't try to project your actions onto me, bro. Don't try to. Don't try to act like you don't know exactly what I was saying. Now some of the things I was saying because I was drunk was a little ahistorical. My bad. I won't invoke the names of leaders anymore. Okay, my bad. But my sentiment remains the same. If we're going to coalesce and we're going to be in coalition because that's what we need to be in. We need coalition. We need unity and solidarity amongst people of color in this country. You're gonna have to undo the apathy that you have for black Americans and you're gonna have to address the anti blackness that exists in your community. Before you point the finger at black Americans, ask yourself, how do I treat dark skinned Afro Latinos? Do I believe in keeping the race pure? Which just means don't create no dark skinned Latin. When you address those issues, then you can stop projecting your insecurities and your frustrations onto me and turn that mirror around and I will continue to sit here on this platform and do the same. Traditions create culture. So we got rid of religion and we embraced ideology. And ideology is the thing that is dividing us. How many ideologies do black Americans have right now? And are they ideologies or are they identity crisises?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Message.
Deontay Kyle
So how do we return to a place of communion and family reunion outside of the funeral? So this is why and what you don't know is that we've had a couple of meets, meetups with the cousins. We're trying to create these communities in a real place, in a real way. One way that we can do this is by supporting each other, by showing up for each other, by putting our money where our mouth is now in a real way. I want to address something real quick. The Umoja now and Grizzly Next Podcast Present Black to School Inglewood Resource and Black Black Youth for the Road Ahead this is on August 9, 2025 from 12 to 5 in Inglewood, California. Black to school Englewood is a community powered day of direct resource support, joy and activation for black youth and their family. Grounded in cultural pride and mutual aid, this initiative is built by and for our people. No middlemen, no barriers. We're giving away backpacks, books, groceries and school supplies while also connecting families to local mentors, wellness services, legal help, education advocates and more. So what you can expect is free Back to School Supplies and Essentials, a book giveaway curated by the Free Book Initiative Youth Services which include tutoring, health access and career guidance, mental health and wellness zones, resource navigation, few music, games and cultural celebration. This is organized by me here, Deontay Kyle, Big Ice Cup Cat at the Grizzneggs Podcast and umoja now in partnership with community members, grassroots leaders, regional organizations committed to Black liberation and care. This Umal Janelle is spearheaded by our last guest, Justin Ellis Brooks. If you watch that interview, you know what that man is about. So to stay in contact you can email info@justinellisbrooks.com youm can follow Umojanel and Chris next podcast or Deontay Kyle on social media. We are raising funds and seeking volunteers to make this vision a reality. Every Dollar and Helping Hand directly supports Black youth in Inglewood. So August 9, 2020 5:12pm to 5:00pm donations can be made on Zell infoustinellisbrooks.com or PayPal and I provide the PayPal link in the description and I'll have Tristan put it across the screen. This is my vision for this. Okay, do you have a dollar? Let's really talk about the power of a dollar.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Just one.
Deontay Kyle
Just one dollar. If 10,000 people can give one dollar, that's all. I'm not asking for nothing crazy. You know where to donate it. You know what the cause is. That man is a standup guy and I would not align myself with him if he wasn't. This is going to support. We talk about it. We talk about it a lot. You have an opportunity to do it. These kids need help. These kids are going to have their back to school services provided. $1 on my behalf. I call it the power of a dollar. Let's talk about the real power of a dollar. 10,000 people. Way more than 10,000 people are going to watch this, correct?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Correct.
Deontay Kyle
10,000 people give $1. If you feel inclined to do more, do more. That's a standup guy. He's built this grassroots organization on his own with the leadership of other community leaders and he wants to help these kids. He also does feed the homeless all the time in MacArthur park, which is a dangerous place to be in for one. And he provides Narcan. He does go watch the last episode. Go watch episode 70. You can see what he's all about but umoja now. Gristynext podcast Black to school in Inglewood, California, August 9th. Tap the donation link and give $1. That's it, $1. How do we return to a place of communion? Family reunion outside of the funeral, it's not easy to trust one another. When they had a 40 year play breaking our trust. 40 year play breaking our family. That war on drugs, That's a motherfucker, ain't it? It's a motherfucker. But how do we embrace community over individualism that we've accepted, that we've embraced individualism? You get a lot when you get low and you get that tunnel vision, but also the thing is that you get a lot of rhetoric, you get hit with a lot of, a lot of propaganda. And a lot of us have put our head down and chased our dreams. A lot of us have achieved them. But we look around when we come out that tunnel and ain't nobody around us and the people that happen to try to come up around you, sharks in the water, baby vultures trying to get what you got. You ain't got no community. You ain't got nobody to share it with. You know how you can, you can, you know, you know how easy it is to start giving back? Just gave you emoji now, like the school. Inglewood, give a dollar and understand the power of your dollar. Up against 9900 more dollars just to help, just to help a kid, but to help yourself. Okay, if we can do, if they can do it in Inglewood, how do we do it here in Atlanta? How do you do it in Charlotte? How do you do it in dc? How do you do it in Flatbush? How do you do it in Philly? How do you do it in New Orleans? How do you do it in Birmingham? How do you do it in Jackson, Mississippi? It can be done. How can you do it in Tulsa, Oklahoma? Houston, Texas? Dallas, Texas? I don't know about Houston. Not no more. Let everybody say in Houston.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You just go circle around that.
Deontay Kyle
Oh, it starts small. When you, when you, when you decided to put your head down on your individual path, you ain't have shit. But you started striving, started studying, you started researching, you became determined, you became passionate. And the same things that you did to get success as an individual you can do to contribute to your community and understand it ain't going to be big, it ain't going to be overnight. Why would one do everything overnight? I tell you what you do have as an individual. You have that online community if you create it, reach out to them, see who really about what they talking about. And don't be discouraged when you find out. It's all performance. It's all for likes and views. It's all for that. TikTok check. A lot of the progress is performance. Progress takes participation. How you gonna participate? Power of a dollar. Power of a dollar. I'm grateful you understand what I'm saying. Curated a real community over here. I know for a fact all the cousins. Yeah, all the cousins gonna give a dollar.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That's a fact.
Deontay Kyle
I know it because we don't just talk about it over here. We've been doing it. And we done met in person several times. I ain't sitting perched up on some guy. I ain't no guy. I ain't sitting perched up looking down on niggas. I be right there with them. I be kicking it. Motherfucker pay $8 to get extra content from you every month. You can't see them, you can't dap them up. You won't go meet them. You're a sucker. You out for self. But we also understand that everybody ain't got their platform. They don't do it like this. Do they do that, Big Cat? Nope. They don't even care to do.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Nah, man.
Deontay Kyle
So how many ways have we overcorrected as millennials? Putting individualism over community. Cutting your folks off. Just address your people. Got to build up that. Got to build that backbone up. Telling folks how you feel about shit, they gang up on you. Get ghosts and you come back and you do it again until they respect you. Me, I'm going to go disrespect for disrespect. You wanna call me a slur, I'm gonna go slur for slur. You grew up around me, right? You grew up around me. That mean you could say nigga. Well, if I grew up around you, I could say what I wanna say, too. I thought Beaner was light. Thought it was light. Nah, it's not light.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It's not light.
Deontay Kyle
But they can say nigga. He called me a nigga. It ain't right. It ain't right. It ain't right. Don't feel good. Do it. When you fight fire with fire, I won't be. I won't be doing that publicly anymore. I'm just gonna say what is the issue when I meet disrespect with disrespect. Big Cat, I told these folks who I was several times, did I not?
Big Ice Cup Cat
That you did that you did, brother.
Deontay Kyle
I Saw a crack in my own community. Just because I'm reformed, just because I see a better way ahead, just because I understand what the damage I was doing was. I ain't just some benevolent being floating. I ain't Jesus, baby. I ain't Jesus. You disrespect me? I'm disrespect you? You call me a slur, I'm gonna call you one back. If you don't think that's the right way to do things, maybe you need to change your position on how you do things. Black people don't ask for much, do we? No, just ask for respect.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That's it.
Deontay Kyle
But now, all of a sudden, you can remove cultural context, say, I grew up around you, so I should say nigga, too? You remember when we was watching the clip and Shorty said, do you say the N word?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Mm.
Deontay Kyle
Being asked that question is enough to know that you shouldn't be saying it. Big K, you 36?
Big Ice Cup Cat
36.
Deontay Kyle
I'll be 34. 30. I'm 34. I'll be 35 in two days once it's there. How many times has anybody ever asked you for permission to say nigga?
Big Ice Cup Cat
One time.
Deontay Kyle
One time.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Mm.
Deontay Kyle
How many times have you been given permission to say nigga? Never. Never. Never had to ask permission. Never had to ask permission. Never been asked. If do you say the N word? Never been asked it. I'm a descendant of them people. How many of these people didn't have names and that was their name.
C
And.
Deontay Kyle
It wasn't a term of endearment? That's where we come from. That's the historical context of that. Whether you agree with it or not, whether we should say it or not, whether you agree with it or not, we say it. And we say it with embrace. We don't say it to disrespect each other, which is why it feels disrespectful when you say it. And all we ask is for respect. We'll circle back to that fat Mexican in a minute. Millennial overcorrection. How do we return to a place of communion and reunion outside of the funeral? Well, we gotta get into parenting. We've embraced gentle parenting, not whipping our kids. Very good plight. But how much of us are supervising instead of parenting, just supervising, just being present, adorning our children with gifts and iPads. I addressed this with my kids several times. Turn that fucking YouTube off. Yeah, turn that YouTube shit off. Ain't nothing good on there.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Nah.
Deontay Kyle
YouTube kids. And now. Okay, young man. Alterique. Let me find his name. Let me find his name. Powerful film that he, that he had at the United Wehl Film Festival. All things are connected here. Alterique Miller real life situation happened to him and he decided to turn into a film. Almost ruined his marriage. His child's watching one of these videos on YouTube that is in cartoon form. But the messaging is telling his child how to hang himself.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh wow.
Deontay Kyle
And his child tried to hang himself. And had they not acted fast, his child, he would have lost his child. And his child is still not at 100%. And he chose to use that pain and vulnerability to advocate for a bigger cause which is stop supervising and start parenting. Be aware of what the content that your child is absorbing because there's messages all in it, ain't it for sure. First time I discovered that my son was watching anything porn related, it was Sonic and Tails. My child's young man, young. He's 8, 9 at the time, big fan of Sonic. But now he's seeing titties, dick, pussy. All that because somebody sick ass mind decided let's create porn with these cartoon characters. Now you have to have a sex talk with your child at 8 years old. Likely that's premature. Yeah, I know it's premature because of what happened to me at 8 years old. I wasn't ready for that shit, didn't know nothing about it. But I've since taken that into account. This is my oldest that went through this. I've taken that into account and said all right, well we're just gonna start the sex talks early. Cause the world trying to expose you to it early. So we're gonna start, we're gonna start talking about it early. But how many of us are supervising instead of parenting? How much of that gentle parenting turns into a weekly explosion because you don't want to be a helicopter parent. You don't be overbearing because that may be the parents style that you. We're all trying to undo toxic behaviors, negative experiences we had with our parents. Whether the parent was too strict. Now we try not to be strict at all. Now it's a free for all. And your child don't know time and place. Your child don't know when to shut the fuck up, have an opinion, have an expression, understand when to use it. My children express, they sell to me all the time. They say crazy shit, they cuss all type of shit. They don't do that at school. They don't do that to other people in the times they have. Guess what, son went to school start cursing. Guess what? No more cursing in the house. Cause you done took it outside the house. I chastised the shit out of my kids. We run tight shit around here and I ain't perfect and I did that. You aren't going to inflict any trauma on your children. Is delusional. You parenting with no playbook and all you're trying to do is do the opposite of what your parents did. They did some good things too. Now we ain't gonna hide behind abuse talking about our turned out fire. We ain't doing that. What I am saying is eat the meat, throw out the bones, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Don't just rid everything you can't trust. First of all, I ain't listening to what no white people for no parenting advice. We got this idea of gender parents and from white people, let's just keep it real. All right? That's what we get. The introduction. Now this is a good concept, gentle parenting. Letting your kid express theyself, Let them feel their feelings, embrace their feelings, address their feelings without yelling at them, without saying shit like depress them dishes. Address the mental health of your children. Have real conversations with them. But black people have to tailor our gentle parenting to our community. Tailor our gentle parenting to the experiences we're going to have as black people in this country. We should not be whooping our children. We all on the same page about that. I think when a three year old is wilding the fuck out, you should pop them on their ass. Get them back online, get them back in line. Little wooden spoon, don't fuck the baby up, but get him back online. Little pop, that ain't abuse. Get them back online. 10 year old Huff and puff, you shouldn't throw them down the fucking stairs. Hey, that's crazy. Shouldn't be breaking your child's shit. That's crazy. When a child is of age to talk, talk to them. When the child can't talk, have patience with them. Every now and then toddlers be wilding the fuck out. I ain't finna sit here and lie. Now I'm not advocating you do what you want. I'm telling you I'd pop my children ass popping right on. Ass good. Right on that meat. Just get them online. Focus, focus. Words ain't working. Pack up. I ain't saying it's right. I'm saying it worked. And I can count on one hand how many all of them have experienced it. All three of them. Because I don't want to be a supervisor in my children's lives. I Know they. I know the homeroom teacher, I know the principal. You got to get involved now. This is the next phase of what I'm doing here in this household. We can reach out to HBCUs, find African American study majors that are looking for some extra credits and community things and have them come to the house and teach your kids African American studies. And if you got a little extra money, give it to them. But the ability to take the opportunity for them to teach, I'm telling you, inexperience, oftentimes they take it on and they'll do it for free. And you shouldn't take advantage of them. You should give them some. But how are we overcorrecting as parents? A lot of our overcorrection in parenting has become supervision over parenting. My son, 13 year old, he want to run the streets. Now, not run the streets in the sense of he trying to be a street nigger, run the street saying he want to go to a homie's house, he wants to. He want to go to parties. My mama, she went with that me. You got your phone. If I call, you better answer. If I text. Text me back if you don't. Well, I know I said I was picking you up at 10, but now I'm picking you up at 9. Party's over. You can be strict without being a helicopter. You can't save them from the world. And if you try to save them from the world, all that work you did to get them put. What's the idea? We're gonna mold em up. We gonna keep them away from all the danger. And then we're gonna put them in college. And then your child is gonna spend the first semester getting drunker than they've ever been in their life.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Wilding out.
Deontay Kyle
Wilding the fuck out. I seen it, I've seen it. Had a cousin go through it. Very strict helicopter parenting. Went to college, wild the fuck out. Got hospitalized, drank too much. Cause they don't know limit because you ain't letting them live. They gonna do a little drinking. Yeah, you did a little drinking.
Big Ice Cup Cat
They gonna do a little smoking.
Deontay Kyle
They gonna do a little smoking.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You did a little smoking.
Deontay Kyle
You did a little smoking. Now I am not in this ministry of I'd rather you do it here. I don't know if I'd rather you smoke at the house. Nah, I understand the sentiment of safety. I would rather you not be smoking at all that. Hey, that's where I'm at with it. Let's be a little transparent. You wanna be a little transparent?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. And also, it's not a genuine experience if you're smoking at the house.
Deontay Kyle
It's not genuine. It's actually enabling.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Cause then what? Cause then what you gonna say when they just fired up on the couch? They gonna say, damn. You said I could smoke at the house. Yeah, you said it was cool. You said we was good.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. As long as I do it here.
Deontay Kyle
As long as I do it here, I'm good. I'm good.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Now you mad?
Deontay Kyle
Now you mad? I guess I'm gonna go back outside and smoke with the homies. Yeah, it's not a genuine experience. This is a position I take. All right? My 13. 13. He'll be 14 in a few weeks. Came in the house one day, smelt the weed on him. I was like, what's up with you? You smoking weed now? Light bulb came on. Should I lie? I saw him process it. Relationship that we have. Let him know he don't got to. He was like, yeah, I smoked. I was like, well, how you feel? We went through the whole thing. I said, look, man, I'm not gonna stop you from being outside, and I can't be outside with you. Don't get in no car when it's weed in the car. Don't sell no weed. Don't buy no weed. If the homies spark up and you smoke, I can't stop you from doing that. I would prefer that you didn't. But I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen after this summer. You better treat it like a phase. Cause after this summer, when school start back, I'm gonna drug test you every 15 days. Cause we gotta build trust now. I'm giving you a leeway. I'm giving you the summer. I don't want you to. But I can't stop you. And I'm not gonna restrict you to the house. Cause what does restriction do?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Cause rebellion.
Deontay Kyle
Cause rebellion and creates avenues around those restrictions. If I create laws, they're gonna find ways to break the laws. Okay? Fair. He said, look, Dad, I feel like that's fair. Got my word. When school start back, I'm done with this shit. I was like, you got the rest of your life to smoke weed.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
You got the rest of your life to do everything you want to do. Right now we focus on education. You want to be an athlete? You can't be no athlete and be getting high.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Nah.
Deontay Kyle
Because think about. Because how good of an athlete you gonna be against the athletes that don't smoke, drink, none of that. They just pure. They put pure Blooded Americans. Real blue bloods, baby. Blue bloods like they're working.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Good American product.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah, Made in America. Made in. Made in this motherfucker, huh? Only problem they can have is drinking.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Too much water, too much milk in the cereal.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah, God damn. Calcium in their body never skips a workout. So we found a place of agreement. And I even told him, I don't know what I'm doing, straight up. I said, look, I might not even be approaching this the right way. This might not be the right resolution for this problem. But this is all I can think of. Cause I don't want to be like my mama and put you out the fucking house at 13. 4. That's insane. When I know at 13 I was smoking weed. So I have to reflect on who I am. I have to reflect on how I was raised up. Oh. I said, oh. So you know what we did? Sat down.
Big Ice Cup Cat
What happened?
Deontay Kyle
Sat that nigga down. Sat that nigga down and made him watch two documentaries about the fentanyl epidemic in San Francisco and the fentanyl epidemic in Philadelphia.
Big Ice Cup Cat
She's.
Deontay Kyle
He was looking at them slumped over. He was like, damn.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
And I said, pay attention. I said, I haven't watched these documentaries. I guarantee you one of these people is going to say, somebody put the fentanyl on the weed within the first 10 minutes. They say, man, I was good. All I did was smoke weed. 19 year old boy, somebody slips fentanyl on the weed, now my body need it. I said, well, you ain't far away from that, brother.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Mm.
Deontay Kyle
And if you don't think they'll do it to a 14 year old, you don't fucking know the world.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
I said, this is ultimately what I'm trying to prevent you from. Yeah. You're naive. You're ignorant to the consequences, and that's not your fault. It's my responsibility as your parent to make you aware the consequences. Trying to steer you back on the path that I feel like is the path most suitable for your success. Facts. And then when I guide you in those ways and you become an adult, I have to trust that I've instilled enough in you for you to be able to go out and do these things and make good decisions on your own. And you're still gonna make mistakes. Cause I still make mistakes.
Big Ice Cup Cat
There's no manual to this.
Deontay Kyle
Ain't no manual.
Big Ice Cup Cat
And that's good that you said that, because my mom always gave me two references when it came to. She said, you gonna smoke weed, smoke weed, but roll your own up. And she would always reference dmx. And when it came to, like, hard drugs, she said, you don't want to do that. And she always told me about Lynn Bias. Yeah. So I agree with you on that.
Deontay Kyle
Well, I gave my own reference. I was doing Go Dang.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Your dad was. Your dad was out of here, baby.
Deontay Kyle
I told him. I said, bro, we could have been successful 10 years ago had I not been on drugs. We could have had this shit figured out at 25, my nigga, had I not been on coke.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I don't think you would have. I don't think you could have handled it at 25.
Deontay Kyle
No, no, no. But not this.
Big Ice Cup Cat
No, you couldn't handle this at 25.
Deontay Kyle
At 25 oughta been. Welcome back to a Grizzly Next podcast. Deontaykyle.com for all your merch. Dual line merch coming out.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Almost threw this mic. Dual line merch is crazy.
Deontay Kyle
Ey, ball, corner pocket. Merch coming out soon. Deontayky.com for all your merch.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh, my God.
Deontay Kyle
It would have been no grease. And it's just been eight ball right there. Right there where the umatter logo is. It's been a eight ball. What that mean? Yeah, this do cocaine. He's also pretty enlightened. It's kind of smart. Sometimes it goes off the rails. It's the only podcast you ever seen where do line on camera. Shut the up. Shut up. So that segues me into my next topic, because as a parent, what are you? The leader?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
We pine for black leadership. We pine for it. We place the label upon deontay. It's a leader, thought leader. I take it on, and I'll take the responsibility to come with it. So when I fuck up, I'll tell you I fucked up. But if I feel like I'm right, I'm gonna tell you I feel like I'm right. If I don't execute well, I'll say I didn't execute well. But when I fuck up, I'll tell you I fucked up. Leadership over wise counsel. Now, one thing I don't want to happen with this Grizzen Eggs podcast is that y' all make me. Y' all put me up on a pedestal as the leader of the black community that's beneficial to white supremacy. Why cut off the head and the body will follow? I want to create a coalition in the black community of thought leaders, not one singular individual and not based around any ideology. It don't have to be the Martin way. It don't have to be the Malcolm way. It don't have to be the Fred way. It don't have to be the Stokely way. Don't have to be the Angela way. It don't have to be in a. It has to be liberation for black people. And whatever means you have to do to approach that, you should. But we should do it together. Okay, Council. Real coalition. Before we start a coalition outside of our own community, we should have one within it. Cause who they coalescing with? Individuals. I'm gonna go create a coalition with this community. And as an individual, while they already have their sit well, that's how you become a pawn for other people's plights. So we need to create a coalition in our community. Now, a part of this leadership and a part of the flaws of the things that we see as leaders online is people speaking as an authority and not a participant. Your mama yelled at you to get you right? Don't yell at me, okay? Your mama demeaned and degraded you to get you in order. Don't demean degrade me because you ain't perfect. Don't speak down to me. Speak to me. Speak lovingly. I ain't saying go soft on. I'm saying have some empathy. Don't yell at me. Don't wag your fucking finger at me. You ain't no authority. You ain't perfect. You're a participant. You had to undo some things too. That'll make you better because others are in the process of undoing. It don't make you better. It don't make you no authority. You still got shit to work on. Don't talk down to me. Talk to me. Talk with me. Participate. Progress requires what? Participation? You're a participant. If you want progress, you're not an authority. Whatever parents and style that you had, I know what the shit come from. Trust me, I know. This shit is directly connected to how your folks talk to you when you fucked up, how they chastised you, made you feel less than. Made you feel stupid, degraded you, demeaned you, talked down at you, waved their finger at you. And now that you feel like I've made a lot of good decisions that have put me in a financially stable place, a mentally stable place, an influential space. I'm going to adopt those same ways that were given to me to others. Because that's how I translate empathy. That's how I translate help. Tough love. Don't talk to me crazy, okay? In the words of my boy, Vale tv, who the fuck are you talking to? That real shit. Who you talking to? The People that receive your message were also demeaned, disrespected, degraded in the process of progress. Now the only way that they can accept sage advice is by being demeaned, degraded. No, that's destructive. Because what's going to happen when these people progress to a place where they respect themselves, Progress to a place where they have higher self esteem? They ain't gonna allow you to talk to them like that. Then where's your audience gonna go? We have to have empathy for black people if we're gonna see progress in this community. We have empathy for ourselves. Just cause that was the way you were reared doesn't mean that you recreate that rearing in your state of influence. You ain't no fucking. Have some empathy. Because if we only judging off the actions, without the context of the cause and effects of the things that have been done to us in this country, then we're participating in the same thing we're up against. You're only judging off the actions. You're not looking at the minds and the hearts of black people. You're only judging them off the actions. Actions are based on cause and effect. If you don't know the causes, then you don't know that you're looking at the effects and you're judging the actions. Some actions should be judged, but without the context, without the context of the understanding of the things that black people have been through, you understand it. You think the way that to fix it is to talk down. You're out of your mind. This creates Afro pessimism. This is what we talked about, low racial self esteem, this Afro pessimism, fear and growth. Because you find comfort in trying to be the oppressor. Instead of addressing your oppressor, you want to create an oppressed class beneath you. Instead of realizing you're the part of, you are a part of an oppressed class of people. And you don't. And maybe, maybe there's a little fear behind addressing your true oppressor. We gotta come together. None of us sit up on thrones here, okay? We was kings. We ain't kings right now. We ain't kings right now. You be a king in your mind. Ain't nothing wrong with that. I'm all for affirmation. I'm all for things that seek to uplift, language that uplifts. I'm also all for us living in the reality our situation. We can't delude our way out of oppression. Huh? You can't be delusional and just use these words of affirmation to Lift yourself up. Because when the words of affirmation don't work, the actions have to. And the actions have to be bent on the reality of what we're going through. The actions have to be based in the reality of our situation. That's how we have to act, based in reality. Which is why I don't speak as an authority. I speak as a participant. I'm right alongside you. Because we're all affected and affected in different ways. There was a multitude of actions. There's a multitude of actions. It's a multitude of wars waged against the black community. Mental, physical, spiritual, multitude of war, chemical multitude of wars, multitude of actions, waves against the black community. All going to affect us different ways. We have to address it. This is why the white, the white, the right, the right, seemingly so effective in their messaging, seemingly so effective in their politics, because they have one issue, they have one goal. The goal is white supremacy. If everybody on the right is on board that we're working towards white supremacy, then it's very easy to come to agreements about things. Is this in favor of white supremacy, yes or no? If the answer is no, then we don't go. The answer is yes, then we gonna push forward. The left is for humanity and all of its problems. Very hard to come to an agreement on that, ain't it? So first you want to start in the black community. Let's start. Let's start in the black community. All these different age gaps, all these different sexual identities, all these different ideologies. And everybody wants theirs to be first. Then you move over to the Latino community, same thing. Indian community, same thing. Asian community, same thing. Then you gotta siphon through which of those groups of black Americans and other people of color fall on the right or left. And you'd be surprised how many fall on the right. Even those of us that are black Americans. We talk about the 92%. We talk about the 80%, 28%, 28% on that right. And why. We have to understand that these people have binary thinking. So I'm gonna be binary about it. The right is the party of white supremacy. The goal, the end goal is white supremacy. That's the way I see it. Conservatism, Christian values, white supremacy. The left is for humanity and all of its problems, which is why we can't come to agreement, because everybody wants their problems to be dealt with first. Now, I want to say this big problem on the left is that we don't want to address the original sins. And the reality is this, until you do, right by the black American, you're not going to be able to do right by anybody. Because black Americans have bloodshed, have history of massacres, of lynching, of slavery, of disenfranchisement. We have a history of terrorism being waged against us in this country since we got here. So if there were, we're going to talk about first things first. Let's address the first thing. And when you don't address the first thing and you don't want to address the plight of the black American, the voice that is extremely loud on the left, if you don't want to address that first and it's going to be all performance, then nothing's going to get done. Because if we have to go first things first through all of humanity, all of the different identifiers, all of the different races and nationalities that live on the left and all of their problems, and everybody wants their shit addressed first. Then address the first thing first. The black American and their plight. The black American in their fight for reparations as descendants of chattel slavery. Reparations for all of our black towns that was bombed and overrun. Reparations for eminent domain that broke up our neighborhood. Reparations for segregation in Jim Crow. Reparations for the war on drugs. If you don't want to go all the way back, we can just keep moving forward. Repair. The only thing black Americans seek is repair and respect. Everybody got a problem with it when they gotta address our issues. And that's the issue with the left. They wanna over first things first, huh? First things first. A lot of you niggas don't wanna put first things first. You don't view the white man as your enemy, but his history does. You don't see the black woman as your partner, as your sister, as your confidant, but her history does. You view a black woman as your enemy with evidence. You done made a white man your idol. Act like him, you think like him, you reason like him, you rationalize like him, you ask for his daughter's hand in marriage because you want to be like him. And I don't. You don't think he your history. You don't think you he your enemy, but his history does. You don't think that white girl your enemy, but her family does.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Message.
Deontay Kyle
To idolize your enemy is crazy. Okay, let's just start there. Now, if we're gonna talk about coalition, I have to understand that there's gonna be some people that get left behind. Cause you done made this black woman your enemy with no evidence. And you Got all this evidence of this white man. All of it. A lot of it. Centuries. Oh, real centuries. Real centuries. Your issue with the black woman starting feminism. What? That's the 1960s, nigga. What else was happening in the 1960s?
Big Ice Cup Cat
It was a lot going on in 1960s.
Deontay Kyle
You talk about feminism, and the only thing I can see in my head is lynchings, dogs biting, niggas, fire hoses. You talk about feminism, you don't see her as your partner, but her history does. You don't see him as your enemy, but his history does. And he's still making history. Big beautiful Bill.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh.
Deontay Kyle
Big beautiful Bill. More history. They're writing it right now as we speak. Trying to undo your history to the point where one day you won't even be able to see him as your enemy. You'll just keep him as your idol. Makes sense to go against ICE because guess what? I'm gonna tell you how I see it. I'm tell you how I see it. Housing bubble burst. Correct. We can go back further than that, but we start here. Housing bubble burst. Economy. Banks bail out big corporations. We need cheap labor if we're gonna rebuild. What's our model for rebuild? What's our model to build with? What's. What's the model that they use to build this country? Slavery. Okay, we got 13amendment. So we got. We got a little slavery popping. We gotta pop, but ain't popping hard enough. Okay? So we're gonna. We're gonna incentivize this cheap labor. Everybody can come. Come on in. Come one, come motherfucking all. They exploit the Latino community for cheap labor. That's just a reality to respond. All. They exploit all immigrants for cheap labor. Now, when we make one decision, we gotta understand that that one decision is gonna branch off into a ripple. Huh? Big stone hit the water, a lot of ripples. 1. The only ripple they focus on was the exploitation of cheap labor. What they didn't bank on is population growth. Population growth in these immigrant communities. Population growth in the black community. Population decline in the white community. Didn't bank on that. Didn't bank on that. I don't know if I've been watching a lot of people of Latino descent being deported. Haitian descent, Jamaican descent, Afro Caribbean people being deported. I ain't seen Norwegian being sent back where they came from. No, because now we're in the population game. It's all happening again. Same way they got the Italians ditch their culture and assimilate. Same way they got the Irish to ditch their cultures and assimilate. Same Way they got the Jews to ditch their culture and assimilate into whiteness. It's happening again because evil don't rest, nigga. Gotta go check the numbers. Why do we need control over women's birth? Reproductive wives rights. Why do we need control over that? Because women are becoming individuals and a lot of women are deciding on what have baby. A lot of white men aren't seeming so desirable anymore. A lot. A lot. A lot of ambiguous babies popping up. Women don't like. Women don't like. Bobby. Men don't like them. You know, like, why? Why don't they like it?
Big Ice Cup Cat
They're a dying breed.
Deontay Kyle
Dying breed, baby. They're a dying breed. They're going out of style.
Big Ice Cup Cat
They're going out of style.
Deontay Kyle
This is going out of style. White people aren't discriminated against. White people are gauged fairly based on your actions. Ain't nobody discriminating against you, nigga. You're evil. History of cannibalism.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
History of misogyny. History of white supremacy. History of terrorism. Everywhere you go. History of destruction. Everywhere you go. Ain't nobody being biased against you, nigga. You're being judged fairly and accordingly based on your actions and the actions of the people that came before you. Guess what? I can't assume that you're virtuous when all of your history says you're malevolent. White people sit up there. White niggas sit up there. We talk about real racism. White men experience. No. White men are reaping what they sewed, huh? Reap what you sow. You like Isaac Newton, right?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Preach, my brother. Preach.
Deontay Kyle
Every action.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Deserves an equal. It gets an equal and opposite reaction. You. You in the reaction phase, brother. Sir Isaac Newton told you that, huh? Graduate of Cambridge University.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yo.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah, I know your history, too. It's the only history you acknowledge, so we're gonna acknowledge it. Acknowledge it. You're getting what you. You're getting what you're owed. Anybody being racist against you? Nobody. Again being discriminatory. Discriminatory against white women. What is your history? What is your history? What do you still perpetuate? Present day victimhood. Damsel in distress. Fuck a nigga, say he raped you, get him hung. Casual Killing Act. That's the homework. That's homework for the day. We back. We back with the homework. We back. That's today's research. Casual killing Act. And why? To protect enslaved people from white women. Just killing them. Before the white woman could vote, she could own a slave. Show History show. Credit score, baby. Credit score is in the toilet, huh? I wouldn't finance. I wouldn't finance white people with a 1998 Honda Accord with a brand new transmission in it. Wouldn't even finance it. That car, all of $2,000. I wouldn't even allow you to make payment plans. As a matter of fact, I'm charging you 5. You don't deserve anything. You don't deserve any credit. You don't deserve any grace. You don't deserve it. Actions, not individual actions of your community. History. I ain't giving you nothing. Not over here. The grace I give the black community is based on what? The history, the traditions, the culture? This is my community. I know what we've been through and I know who put us through it. So you don't see the white man as your enemy, but his history does. You don't see the black woman as your partner, but her history does. Better start checking into that history. Better start doing the motherfucking knowledge. Better start using Yakabessa. Cause I am Big Cat. What's today's mathematics, baby?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Today's the 29th. It is wisdom and born. You know, like I always said, man, wisdom is what you know from knowledge. And knowledge is infinite. And knowledge is the absence of confusion. So when you have that, you got the wisdom, baby. Then you go be born to that supreme being. Once you get all the mathematics, it always goes from knowledge to born. Born back to knowledge. Then you add on to that cipher. You just keep. It's just a repetitive cycle of mathematics because knowledge is infinite and you can always add on knowledge. Today's mathematics, baby.
Deontay Kyle
Knowledge. Do the knowledge. We'll be right back after this commercial break. We back. We back, baby.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We back.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah, man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
How you feeling?
Deontay Kyle
Like a preacher.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That's what it sounds like.
Deontay Kyle
The doors of the church is open. Ah, come on down. We need some organs. We need some organs. How you.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I'm good.
Deontay Kyle
Son of this advice, man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, it's been a minute since we. We've been here.
Deontay Kyle
We ain't talked to the folks in it.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, yeah, let's talk to them.
Deontay Kyle
All right.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Let's see what they got.
Deontay Kyle
All right.
D
Hey, man, I was listening.
Deontay Kyle
A little aggressive.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, he came in a lot.
Deontay Kyle
He didn't even say hello.
D
Hey, man, I was listening to episode 67, waiting for you to drop some old knowledge. So I got to go back and listen to old episodes, you feel me? But I live in Florida. From Fort Valley, Georgia, right up the road from you. You feel me? And you said something about your son was talking about how you feel like, he lives at school and visit home. And you was like, I don't think nobody gonna believe you that my son really said that. And I'm sitting here, Bacon brought 67 episodes in this. You we talking about, like, if you. If you preaching the knowledge to us through. Through pot and podcasts, I can only imagine what knowledge you doing at home with your son. So, like, if. If you say your kids said something and you were like, you don't know if people gonna believe you. They not true fans. And that's just real, bro. Keep doing what you're doing. YouTube. Big Cat Ready to knock a nigga out. Cat still laughing at that. But, hey, man, y' all keep doing what y' all doing. Y' all are the revolution. And I believe in y' all words wholeheartedly. Keep preaching, man.
Deontay Kyle
My brother. My brother, he right, though. Exactly right. We doing the knowledge at the house.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, for sure. For sure.
Deontay Kyle
Already knowing it's time. Hey, we having a family meeting. Like. Oh, damn.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Damn.
Deontay Kyle
A family meeting. It just mean lecture.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. That's all.
Deontay Kyle
I mean, it's a lecture hall.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
About something I disagree with.
Big Ice Cup Cat
What do we do now?
Deontay Kyle
Shout that man out, bro. Shout you out, brother. All right, let's see what we got.
D
Hey, man, shout out to y' all, man. Dk, Big Ice cup, what's happening? Hey, man, this your big cuz down here. Smoke dog down. Down. I 20, man, down in Augusta. Hey, man, I just want to give y' all props, man. Hey, condolences to, you know, you're lost and everything, but I just want to reach out, man. Hey, I'm on status, so, like, I'll be listening to you. I don't know if y' all call y' all, but anyway, scratch on it. So I've been divorced for, like, five years, but I.
Deontay Kyle
Us.
D
Us men do not have, like, the resources or, like, the necessary tools for post divorce. So I was, like, contemplating starting a Instagram page or a podcast or something like, to help people that going through divorce. I mean, I'm always promoting that love, but sometimes, hey, mom. Not be the right one.
Deontay Kyle
So.
D
We had a bounce back, and some of the, you know, some of us don't have, like, the. The health insurance and things of that nature.
Big Ice Cup Cat
The.
D
The necessary resources to have to do that. Because, hell, when I was divorced, hell, I didn't even have any type of resources or even, like, hell, a YouTube video just, like, to try to navigate through this. So I think that's something that I wanted to do. I was just like, do anybody have like any outlet regarding to like post divorce type things for dudes, right? Like just for the. But hey man, keep doing what y' all doing, man. Just a random ass off. Hey man, keep doing what y' all doing, girl. Hey bk Big eyes cup all love over here.
Deontay Kyle
Shout out to you brother. Shout out to the aug. Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Augusta. Yeah. Down out 20.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah. Way down east. Check this out. I've been thinking about this. All right, so one in two marriages fail. That's just a fact. That's a statistic. And I think when we listen to that statistic, we focus a lot on the probability of things failing instead of the probability of things having success. So you should look at that metric of marriage as okay, it could fail, but it could succeed. It has just as much probability to fail as it does succeed. And that's incumbent on two individuals that are in the marriage, their willingness to fight for the marriage and the reason why they got married in the first place. So now we're going to discuss divorce. As I can see, it is not an easy thing to go through. Now I do this a lot, so this finna turn to the grizzly next pander cast once again. Okay, we gonna get in our pandering bag. Pay attention to what women do and how they show up for each other. When one of their sisters goes through stuff like this, they go on a journey of self discovery, journey of wellness. What is it called? What they call it?
Big Ice Cup Cat
The sister circle healing journey. That's what they call it.
Deontay Kyle
They go on a healing journey. Now depending on where you meet a woman, she always in the space of healing, right? But I think we should focus on the fact that they are trying to heal. Oftentimes with men, our healing is. It is what it is. We go to the gym, we get drunk, you know what I'm saying? We try to drink our pain away, we try to fuck our pain away. We try to work our pain away through exercise, right? But I don't think we focus a lot on wellness, which could come in the form of mental health. We could come in the form of personal hygiene, just taking care of yourself. A lot of times we'll wallow in depression because we don't have outlets. And oftentimes our friends don't create a lot of space for us to express ourselves for a long time, right? They'll let you express yourself one or two times. They'll you let. After that they'll be like, man, you got nut to fuck up, you know what I'm saying? You gotta tighten the fuck up. We also are not very keen on mental health, physical therapy. I mean, talk therapy. A lot of us assume that we can deal with our issues on our own. And it is Men's Mental Health Month. So I would suggest to anybody to do what you can to create a barrier entry to talk therapy. Hold your friends accountable to their position in your life. Like, bro, I need you right now. Just be honest about it. Don't fear the rejection. And men. Show up for your friends when they need you. Show up for your friends when they need you. Even if it's just an ear. Tell your friends that you love them. Tell your homeboy that you love them. Support your homeboy. If you notice that he isolating, go see him. Go take them out to eat. We have to stop. First of all, I don't like this that women do where everything do is sassy or gay. I don't like that. Stop doing that. You want men to be more emotionally available, but when they do things that put them in a position of vulnerability, you call them gay. A man order a liniment drop, he gay. A man want to go play a video game with his homies, he gay. Everything would do is gay. For one, that's extremely homophobic. For two, you're stunting men's growth. You want traditional men, but you want emotionally available men. But you want hard men. You can't have it all. If you want a man that's more emotionally available, a man that's a little bit softer, a man that's a little bit more emotionally intelligent, then you're going to have to undo the ways that you believe men should be. Because all the men that you idolize have none of the qualities that you seek for in a man. And we're going to take the onus off of them, and we're going to leave it up to ourselves. And we need to go go hiking with the homies. Go work out. Don't go work out alone. Work out with the homies. And work out with intention. And the intention is to overcome something that's going on within you internally, not just to build up muscle. Don't try to fuck your way out of sadness. It don't work. Trust me. Don't work. Don't drink yourself to death. It don't work. Trust me. Been there, done that too. It don't work. You're going to have to talk to your friends. Don't feel like you're going to be. I've called Big Cat several times when I'm in dire straits mentally, and I will Always, like, preface it like, oh, I ain't trying to take up too much. And he's always reassuring me that he's always has an ear for me and he's always gonna be there to support me. And the same thing is available on my behalf and the same thing has been available for my friends, period. When they need me, I'm there for them. Show up for your friends and men show up for yourselves. Don't be afraid to say that you need help. Don't be afraid to say that you need support. Don't be afraid to reach out. Don't be afraid to outsource. Don't isolate yourself. Call. Talk to somebody. Call your dad, call your uncle, call your cousin, call your best friend. And if all those things don't help, like Brett, use even better help. I don't think that that's a great tool for. For therapy, but use it as a barrier of entry to talk to somebody because honestly, we're going to. The biggest thing is that we don't talk about our feelings. And also, women, when your man come to you with. With his feelings, when your man come to you with things that are plaguing him emotionally, don't make it about yourself.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Mm.
Deontay Kyle
Don't make it about yourself because what you're gonna do is have him defending his emotions based on how it made you feel. Now he's apologizing for how you feel about his fucking feelings. And guess what? He's not gonna do ever again talk to you about his feelings. Stop making everything about yourself. Listen to your man. Listen. Listen to a man when he's telling you how he feels, and do it based on him needing your support and not him putting his problems on you or making you the focal point of his problems. Don't make it about yourself, men. Reach out to other men. Other men be available for your mans. And we're going to be all right.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Start that podcast. Start that safe place if that's your idea. If a seed popped in your head, grow it.
Deontay Kyle
Water seed.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, nurture it.
Deontay Kyle
That seed. You don't know what you could be doing. You don't know what a resource you could be.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Facts.
Deontay Kyle
Sorry, guys, I didn't mean to cough directly into the microphone like that.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Jesus.
C
Hey, Beyonce calling from Dallas, Texas. Want to give a shout out to you and big Ice Cup Cat on the show. Basically, I just want to let you all know that y' all doing y' all thing and I'm really proud. I'm really proud to support you all. I did want to leave this in the email, but I'll go ahead and just voice my opinion. My baby daddy is really a red pill. He wanted to rape your news for real. He feels like he does the most and he really does the least. And he had recently said to me with a straight face that his mom was a single mom and she raised them with no problem. And I'm like, your mom must. She must. They didn't. Keep it real with you. Because if you think being a single parent, anything is easy, you're sadly mistaken. But what are your views and thoughts on dealing with men who feel like they can come and go whenever they want to or they can do whatever they want when they want instead of actually co parenting and create a. Creating a cohesive environment for their child to grow up in? Once again, thank y' all so much for listening.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Get you a great stepfather.
Deontay Kyle
That's a boy. Listen, when it comes to co parenting, when it comes to the issues of raising a child, if the focus of the man is more on himself and how things affect him than it is on how it affects the child, you're not dealing with a man. You're dealing with a boy. I pay these bills. I'm in my child's life. You're supposed to be.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Congratulations.
Deontay Kyle
Oh, congratulations. What? That's like saying, I drove a car and I didn't get in an accident. Yeah, you did what you're supposed to do. Thank you.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You're responsible on the road.
Deontay Kyle
Thank you. The fuck. When it comes to rearing these children, there's a lot of sacrifice that comes in it. If you. Like she said, if you think your single mom didn't struggle, you're a liar.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah. Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Also, you're diminishing her plight. You diminish the plight of that mother. They did it without your dad. And what you trying to do is recreate those circumstances. Yeah, you're trying to be an absent father. You a.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That's your excuse for not being there.
Deontay Kyle
It's your excuse. My mama did it on her own, so you can do it on your own.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You're a.
Deontay Kyle
You're a. You're a. I think all. I hope all the things bad in life happen to you. And only you. Put a hex on that nigga.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put the hex on him.
Deontay Kyle
Step up for your child or step the fuck out the way so somebody can step in. That young lady has a beautiful voice. Beautiful voice.
Big Ice Cup Cat
She probably looks amazing.
Deontay Kyle
She probably looks great. Niggas in that Dallas Fort Worth area, take care of your child, nigga. Since you don't want to.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
You keep saying like, I'm glad you're saying my baby daddy, not my man. And then you mentioned the co parent, because I was like, why are you with this nigga? Yeah, but they obviously aren't together. You can't make a boy be a man. You have to do that on his own time. And he will use you as a proxy for his excuses on why he won't step the fuck up. He will say you were trying to keep him. He gonna do all the things. He gonna do all the things. It's not your problem. Focus on that baby. And the men that come in your life have to understand that and assume responsibility for that young boy if they wanna be in your life.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You are a package deal.
Deontay Kyle
You are a package deal. Huh? Premium package. Premium pussy. Premium package. If you want the premium material, you.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Got to step up.
Deontay Kyle
You want that premium? Yeah, you gotta take the premium package. Oh.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That'S true though.
Deontay Kyle
It's real. It's real Mexican. Ot real. Like, talk about I'm, I'm, you know, this, this be my thing. About like that, bro. What did he do when he got the nigga pass, right? Went right over there to Joe Rogan, Went right to supporting Trump. How do you respect black people? And you are in alignment with right wingers and red pillars and racists. Soon as you blew up, you went over there and cozied up with the white people.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It's in his lineage.
Deontay Kyle
It's in his lineage. It's come kiss the door.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It's in his DNA.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah, Spanish Inquisition. Got your mind. Got your mind, fat boy.
Big Ice Cup Cat
He's a Spaniard.
Deontay Kyle
If that was in front of me and said, what you gonna do about it? I ought to put a pile of cocaine on the table. I know you weakness. I know you weak for that coke. I know it. I like to use niggas information against them. It's always the niggas that's built like they melting that got the most to say. Okay, so here's my thing. Before we get into the rest of this advice thing, it's always this understanding of, oh, I grew up with you. I grew up eating with you, fighting with you, and all these different things. If you grew up like that and you love me, then why can you ignore the historical context of that word and the incarnation of that word being the complete opposite of anything loving? It doesn't feel loving. So if you love me, you should wanna remove that word from your vocabulary. You shouldn't wanna refer to me as anything that could be seen as harmful. And you shouldn't have to make excuses. If you have to make excuses for why you use a word, maybe you shouldn't be using it. Cause black people don't make excuses for it. We have a cultural understanding on why. If you can use it, then we should be. No, that's not how things work. You don't get to police black people's language. You don't get to pick and choose. Cause we don't walk around calling y' all slurs. But we might start. Big Cat is staunchly against that at.
Big Ice Cup Cat
This point in our lives.
Deontay Kyle
I am.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You would have said it eight months ago. I'm all for it, baby. Right now.
Deontay Kyle
I don't think I won't be the person to use the slurs. But I encourage all black people. If you are encountered with somebody who wants to call you a nigga and they not a nigga, call them whatever they slur is. And then maybe we'll get some correction. Maybe once you feel disrespected, maybe once we ignore the historical context of your slurs being used against you, maybe you'll understand why we feel the way we feel. That's not an all inclusive word. And you shouldn't fight so hard to be disrespectful to people. It's not a determinant of endearment when it doesn't feel endearing, nigga. And then also all this. Oh, love I got for black people. And, uh, set it in a room for a woman. Set it in a room with Cleo Trepper. Who has such an issue with black Americans for some reason, especially southern black Americans. Nobody pushed back cause you was in a room for the woman. Look around acting like. And who gonna do something about it that lets me know that it comes from a place of disrespect? It doesn't come from a place of love. If the reasoning behind it is what you gonna do about it. It's not love. It's just that them niggas in Texas have allowed you to disrespect them. So now you feel like you can disrespect niggas everywhere. We'll see how that plays out for you. Showing love and need advice. What's up, Deontay and big Ice Cup Kat, first of all, shout out to you guys and FD signifier. That's my guy. FD is my guy. He shouted you guys out. And I've been listening nonstop. It's so refreshing to hear some brothers around my age who see the world Similar to me, I felt alone in thoughts. I started to think maybe a nigga was tripping. The Internet has done a number on our generation. Niggas ain't trying to build community. They want to be a part of the white supremacist power structure. Believing more in self reliance than the power of pulling each other up. Well, do the knowledge nigga. Pretty much what today's episode was about. I currently am in school for aviation maintenance. I watch a lot of videos for better understanding of things I'm learning. One thing stuck out though. Despite most of my fellow students being black, nobody in those videos look like us. I had an idea of making content explaining different aircraft systems, but I have no idea where to start. As someone who has built your own platform, I have to ask where do I start? Also leave my contact info for anyone who would like to help me build out this idea. I'm also in the Atlanta area. Lastly, I want to leave my GoFundMe info before enrolling in school. I was working a job making about 60k a year, which was cool, but I saw no future. It's also interfered with my schedule. I left that job, took five dollar hour pay cut. @ that time didn't seem like much, but it was. I'm struggling month to month to pay tuition now. I'm grateful for any help I can get and if anybody in the community has aviation apprentice jobs, I'd be grateful for the opportunity. I'm over halfway done with school, already passed my general aviation maintenance exam and I have a 3.9 GPA. GPA. Well brother, we gonna get you some help. Okay, I'm gonna send interesting all these details. Oh yeah. All right, I got you. My dog, he got eighteen hundred dollar goal. That ain't even crazy. Eighteen hundred people give one dollar. One dollar eighteen hundred people give one dollar. Done and done. Sound easy. Me, I. I'll have the details for that posted below. We're gonna do one more email, but I'll say this. Start where you started. Don't recreate the wheel. What's the curriculum that they gave you? Start where they started with you and then work your way up. Yeah, just go by the curriculum that they taught you. That's where you start. Start where they started you. They already showed you where to start. And the fact that you want to do it and the fact that you want to create informational content around aviation maintenance will influence other young men to get into aviation maintenance. And. And in the meantime, in between time, we'll see what we can do to help people donate to your GoFundMe. 1800 people. $1. You got a dollar?
Big Ice Cup Cat
I got a dollar.
Deontay Kyle
I got a dollar. I got a dollar. I got a dollar. Hey, hey, hey, hey. You got a dollar? He got a dollar. Let's get this young man a dollar, man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Power of a dollar, brother. That's all we asking is for a dollar, dawg. Can't give somebody a dollar.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Do you really care about community?
Deontay Kyle
Do you really care about community? You don't. This young man asked for help. We're gonna give him the help he need. Hey, Deontay, my son told me about your podcast. He suggested that I reach out to you for some help. He mentioned that you give great advice. I could sure use your advice on a current situation. My name is Stephanie. Stephanie. I was employed at Duke University for over 24 years and was forced to retire this past March due to racism. I am unemployed, angry, disgusted and desperately in need of a job. I've done clerical and secretarial work and retired as a program coordinator. Since March, my funds have been depleted. Since March, I find myself. My funds have been depleted. I find myself crying every day because all the shit I've been through, I'm too old for this financially. I was not ready. If you have any advice, please don't hesitate to share. If we have anybody who has program who has. Can help us get jobs in the program coordination department, clerical and secretarial department, please reach out to me and we'll help this lady land employment. I mean, being employed somewhere for 24 years and then, I mean, it's that DEI shit. Yeah, that's all that is. The correlation is there. Yeah, we sorry to hear that that happened to you, sister. But if anybody has resources on jobs in that field so that this young lady can get back employed, please reach out to me and I'll relay the information to her. We've done it before, we can do it again.
Big Ice Cup Cat
She said Duke, right? Duke, yes. She's in the Raleigh Durham area.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah. Raleigh Durham. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so if anybody in the Raleigh Durham area has employment opportunities in that area or no work from home, employ employment opportunities, please reach out, send me your resources. I will send them to her. Real community work over here, man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, we do it for.
Deontay Kyle
This is what we doing it for. Okay, Final thing of the day. I do not like to feel manipulated. I'm needing advice on. I've been dealing with my baby's father for eight years, six and a half years in a relationship and not together for two years. We have three Kids together now. Backstory. On a trip, I had found he'd been cheating off and on throughout our relationship with the other women, including his first baby, mom. I immediately crashed out on a trip, came back single within three months, bought a home for me and my kids, and left him where he stood, single. With that being said, we decided not to fool around. We still decided to fool around and had our third child.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Well, you did all that for nothing. You crashed that on the trip, got you a place for the kids. All that was for nothing.
Deontay Kyle
And he got you pregnant again. He got you pregnant so you can come back. During that time of not being together, I made things clear of not wanting to be together and just doing the do. Now I'm permanently fixed. Well, five months clean of pregnancy. I don't want to talk to you anymore.
Big Ice Cup Cat
What is she talking about?
Deontay Kyle
Clean of pregnancy?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Pregnancy of clean of pregnancy is crazy.
Deontay Kyle
Acting like the baby's in addiction.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Okay, yeah, that's crazy.
Deontay Kyle
There's a cartoon that used to come on Cartoon Network. What was it called?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Two Stupid Dogs.
Deontay Kyle
Two Stupid Dogs. That's been the Chris next podcast. Episode 72. 72.
Big Ice Cup Cat
72. This is 72.
Deontay Kyle
This is 72.
Big Ice Cup Cat
72.
Deontay Kyle
We back.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We back, baby.
Deontay Kyle
Episode 72. We are back. Deontayky.com for all the merch. More merch is coming. Exclusive merch is coming for the cousins, but also brand new merch is coming for our average everyday listeners. And we love you and we're grateful for you.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Absolutely.
Deontay Kyle
Shout out to our Spotify listenership. Shout out to our YouTube viewership.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Deontayeontaykyle.com, email submissions for all advice. You too can be a stupid dog. 657234 eggs. If you want to leave, voicemail also will be used as a call in feature for the live that is exclusive to who?
Big Ice Cup Cat
The cousins.
Deontay Kyle
The cousins on Patreon. Grizzly next podcast on Patreon. The Grizzly Next podcast on Patreon. $8.
Big Ice Cup Cat
$8.
Deontay Kyle
$8. Power of a dollar. Umo, Janelle. We're gonna help them kids in Inglewood.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Power of a dollar. Young man in aviation only got a girl. $1,800.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That's it.
Deontay Kyle
We can help him raise it deontay.com across all platforms.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Big Cat B I G G Kat89 on Instagram. Big ice cup cat on I'm sorry. Big ice cup cat one full word on Tik Tok. Yeah, yeah.
Deontay Kyle
You got to change your name to big ice cup cat on Instagram too. It.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Okay, I will.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah. Just so it's just one name.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Just one name. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Deontay Kyle
You got to get uniform. We got to get you professional, baby.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Right?
Deontay Kyle
You the host?
Big Ice Cup Cat
I'm the host of New Music Mondays.
Deontay Kyle
Absolutely.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I am the big cat.
Deontay Kyle
So BIA awards polls are now open for the voting. Go vote. This has been episode 72. We back. I am Deontay Kyle. But who's behind the camera?
Big Ice Cup Cat
The coolest co host in the world. Big Ice cupcat.
Deontay Kyle
Until next time, baby. We'll see you. Take care of yourselves. Take care of each other.
Grits and Eggs Podcast Episode 72 - "WE BACK!!!!"
Release Date: July 1, 2025
Host: Deante’ Kyle
Co-Host: Big Ice Cup Cat
After a significant break, Deante’ Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat enthusiastically announce their return to the "Grits and Eggs Podcast."
The hosts express excitement about resuming the podcast, addressing technical issues with the microphone, and reaffirming their commitment to their listeners.
Deante’ Kyle emphasizes the importance of community support through Patreon, highlighting the benefits for subscribers.
They acknowledge the support during their hiatus and encourage listeners to contribute to sustain the podcast.
The Patreon includes exclusive content, merchandise, and access to live events, fostering a closer connection with the audience.
The duo shares their experiences attending the United Wehl Film Festival in New Orleans, collaborating on the film "These Walls Wear Thin."
They discuss the film's synopsis, the talented individuals involved, and the cultural significance of incorporating Louisiana's sounds into the soundtrack.
Deante’ Kyle delves into deeper societal issues, reflecting on individualism versus community within the Black community.
He discusses the shift towards individualism, the impact of social media on real community bonds, and the need for a balanced approach to activism and coalition-building.
The conversation touches upon historical oppression, favoritism in coalition-building, and the complexities of forming unified movements against systemic issues.
A substantial portion of the episode focuses on parenting strategies and addressing men's mental health challenges.
He critiques "gentle parenting" gone awry, advocating for a balanced approach that includes discipline without being overly restrictive.
The hosts share personal anecdotes about dealing with their children's behavior, emphasizing proactive communication and setting boundaries.
Towards the end of the episode, listeners call in seeking advice and support, reflecting the podcast's community-driven ethos.
Deante’ Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat respond with encouragement, offering practical advice and promoting community solidarity.
The hosts announce upcoming community events and fundraising efforts aimed at supporting Black youth in Inglewood.
They call for donations, emphasizing the "Power of a Dollar" initiative to foster meaningful support for educational and wellness programs.
Wrapping up, Deante’ Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat reiterate their commitment to the community, promote their merchandise, and encourage ongoing support through various platforms.
They highlight the importance of unity, respect, and proactive community engagement as they look forward to future episodes and initiatives.
Episode 72 of the "Grits and Eggs Podcast" marks a triumphant return for Deante’ Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat, blending personal narratives with broader societal commentary. The episode underscores the importance of community support, balanced parenting, and proactive engagement in addressing systemic issues. Through heartfelt discussions and listener interactions, the hosts reinforce their commitment to fostering a resilient and united Black community.
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Stay tuned for more insightful discussions and community-driven content on the next episodes of the Grits and Eggs Podcast.