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Deontay Kyle
Rated T for teen. Each year, thousands of adults lose their shred. It's an epidemic simply known as shred loss. But it doesn't have to be this way. Because rekindling your shred is as easy as playing the new Tony hawk's Pro Skater 3 and 4. With new parks, cross platform multiplayer and sick new game modes, we can put an end to shred loss everywhere. Hit the new Tony hawk's Pro Skater 3 and 4 and show the world that the shred's not dead. Pre order Tony hawk's Pro Skater 3 and 4 and play the Foundry demo. Yeah. Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty south with a dirty mouth my knee or a bit miss things things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my no rest fusion she gorgeous as I doubt my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead tell them we gonna get this money to my POC it's morbid. Remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't got to like a regardless baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me. We like Greeks and eggs as you sip your coffee flick your cigarette and.
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Big Ice Cup Cat
Let a vent yeah, we back.
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Deontay Kyle
Oh we back. Gris and eggs podcast episode 73 of I'm your host Deontay Kyle. But who's behind the camera? The coolest co host in the world, Big ice cub cat Yasirski. This is episode 73. Now this is a debate trying to get my way. Big cat don't be budging. So I was trying to make Durant episode 73 but Big Cat was like now you know on Wednesdays they like to do the knowledge man. They don't want to see no guests on Wednesday. That's a fact though. And I was like nah. Red Duran Bernardo. You know what I'm saying? I don't care who it is. You could be hov. You a goddamn lie. It could be hov. You wouldn't put HOV on a Saturday. I will put HOV on a Saturday. All right, well if we gonna put HOV on a Saturday, everybody gotta go on a Saturday. So we are here. Episode 73 deontaykyle.com for all that merch. Get that merch. We just new merch dropping. We got puzzles. Oh deontay. We got shot. Glad fiance. Oh podcast might just disappear. There go Gilly Mike right there. Well deserved. Here goes Beef Simone's mic. Well deserved. Yeah, we just getting Mike's out of here. Baby Fiance Kyle. All the power in these hands. We got new merch. We got puzzles. We got shot glasses. We got playing cards. Some. So if you want to get down with some spades and that cousin field day, let me know. You know what I'm saying? August 2nd, Big Joker. Right after I whoop y' all ass and kickball them second. Yeah, we bringing home the trophy. We got the trophy. Who's we? Me and my team. All right. You know, it was four of us. All right. We sent our name in, and Suki wasn't feeling that name. Listen, it's the big ice cups, man. Big cat in the ice cups. Big cat in the ice cups, baby. Deontay Kyle and the panderers. Hey, there we go. The panders. Deontaykyle.com for the merch. Deontayeontecyle.com for all advice submissions. That new Music Monday is coming back. Very special episode been on air by the time you see this. So for your music submissions also, deontayeontaykyle.com we are gonna create a new email strictly for the music submissions so we can funnel them joints right to big Ice cupcat. Who is the host with the most on new Music Monday? Deontay Cal on all platforms. Big cat. Big underscore. KT89 on Instagram. Big ice cup cat. One word on TikTok. Yes, sir. Ski 657234X. That's 657-234-3447. We just opened up that phone call, that phone line when we was on the. The exclusive, you know, the very private stream, the live just for the cousins. That's why you got to join that Patreon. $8 ain't nothing but $8. 657234X for all the call ins. We got a couple voicemails today, and we gonna keep that phone line open. I was feeling real Howard Stern. You know what I'm saying? I'm fucking with that. I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that a lot. That was cool. So, yeah, again, the Grist and X podcast on Patreon. Or you could just hit the link in the bio. Bada bing, bada boom, BIA award nomination. The polls are open. Vote. Sending that vote. We need that vote. We like that vote. We deserve that vote. We already won one. Yeah. Let's go two for two. Two for two, baby. Next year we win NAACP award. Oh, no. Put it in the air. Put it in the universe. We got it. Next year Next year, I want a BET Award and naacp. After that, I'm getting a pulser. Yeah. Tell them Kendrick did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. After that, Nobel Peace pr. Oh. Oh. We got it. Got the young men. Put the guns down. Pick the books up. Well, they still got the guns. Nah, but they know how to use them. They know how to use them. Firearm ready, Responsible gun owners. Huh? Part of members of naga. Yeah. Fuck maga. Join naga. Naga. Yeah. I just got off the phone with my brother. 19 keys. Ow. Feeling very enlightened right now. You know what I'm saying? Floating. Yeah. Son, they don't even see. I ain't even sitting in no chair. He just hovering Indian style in the air right now. So Saturday, y' all will get episode 74 with Duran. Bernard, what a great. What a great interview. It was. It was a great interview. What a cool guy, man. No, he's definitely dope. That man talks in song. Yeah, yeah, for sure. A lot of singing going on. He just busts out singing. Doesn't care. Big cat. Yeah. What did I miss? Oh, my God. Did we miss anything? Did we miss any plugs? No, we didn't miss. No. What did I miss? But obviously Drake did. First of all, Drake, let's just clear the air on something, all right? The selfie with the. The V12 abs was nasty. Yeah, it's just nasty, man. It's like you just don't learn. You got a tummy tuck. He looks nasty. Yeah, he looks wild. Etching. Sketch ass. You know what I'm saying? Abs. Yeah, I'm wearing Toy Story 5. He don't even have the arms to match. It's crazy. No definition of arms. Mad. I'm talking about Superhero abs. My 300. Yeah, yeah. Real steel. Yeah, said CGI BBL me. You know what I'm saying, Drake? It's a couple things that just like. It's not clicking, bro. First of all, you're 40. Yeah, okay, so it's okay not to have abs, but if you are 40, have natural abs. Have nap. Just get in that gym. What did I miss? A couple workout routines. That's what you missed. What did I miss? Put the alcohol down. Put the Lobos down. Yeah, he ain't drinking a Lobo, Virginia. I don't know what he's drinking. A lot of sugar in it. Put it down. Yeah, you gotta put that down, baby. Drake, you know what I'm saying? The wine spritzers. Yeah, get you a white claw. Yeah, get on that seltzer, my nigga. You know you like a A nice white wine spritzer. Yeah. And a fresh shisha. A fresh shisha? Yeah. Put the hookah down. Yeah, put the hookah down. You're 40. My. Come on, dog. You try to run up that hill, you almost collapse. Too much shisha. Too much shisha. What did I miss? You missed the fact that you have opened up a lawsuit against N for a diss track. Mm. Okay, Drake, let me tell you a couple things, all right? Few things we're gonna cover. A couple things we're gonna. Obviously, Houston, Atlanta, Vegas didn't teach you anything. You ain't Americanized enough. Okay, first thing, we don't like the police. Nah. Okay, so not like us. Video dropped July 4th, right? What did I miss? Dropped on July 4th. Come on, bro, you ain't low. We all got the same Internet. Yeah. Okay, now, outside of the. Outside of the beef, nice little bop. Nah, that's a good bop. It's a bop. Yeah, but Drake, come on. We dissing LeBron now. Those are 40 year old abs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ah. A lot of stuff going on. True. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Million dollar body. Yeah. True abs on that, man. That's true abs. Yeah. Go work out with LeBron. Go work out with LeBron. Well, you can't do that no more because you dissed him. Yeah, that up. You could have got in there with Demar. Can't, can't. Can't do that no more. Dissed him. Let's Americanize Drake real quick, all right? Guns do not scare Americans. Facts, my. You could have had a football field full of guns. Nobody's scared. That's the average white man. That's the average white man in Arkansas. Yeah, it's a white man in Arkansas right now with just as many guns as you had in that video. And that's light. That's just one. That's just one bunker. Yeah, it's one house. That's one crib. You can't scare Americans with guns. Go listen to Average Joe. Yeah. Never seen that many guns in my life. I was paranoid like a thief in the night, but needed revenge. Dropped a nine ball you ain't never listen to. You ain't listening to Overly Dedicated by Kendrick Lamar, so you wouldn't know that. We're not. We don't. You went on Scare Easy when it comes to the artillery, right? That's literally the American way, my brother. If anything, niggas got excited when they seen all them girls. Like, oh, shit, yeah. Drake, is this the next TI Yeah, next TI Damn. You stealing from Everybody now you stealing TI flow. Oh, bar for bar. Yeah, he went bar for bar. You stealing from T.I. he was the first one with the unrecognizable guns. Never seen that many guns. Tip had the baby Drake with the baby drums on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Never seen that. Never seen that before. Yeah, that's a Yugoslavian weaponry right there. And he would just say, whoa, with Cincinnati. He was just beefing with N Cincinnati also, too. Where was you at with Autumn guns? That can't be Canadian approved. I don't think so. I don't know Canadian laws, but I don't think so. It don't feel like the Canadian way. But you can't scare us with guns. And you can't try to call niggas snakes. And you have a open lawsuit against niggas for a rap battle. First rap battle lawsuit in history of hip hop. Like, niggas don't want to battle you no more. You the police. I tell you what, Drake. There is a viable path ahead. There is a path for you. We saw Ice T do it to perfection. Oh, you gonna be a police? Gonna be a cop on Law and Order. Svu, Toronto. Law and Order, Toronto. Drake is the lead detective. Oh, gotta cut the braids off. Yeah, he gotta cut the braids. Go low cut. I could see it. Nah, that might be dope. Telling you, Drake. Yeah. Get you a nice young 21 year old partner because we know that's the only way you'll do it. And 21 might be too old. Yeah, Toronto Undercover. I'm telling you, Dre, we got you on deck. Get used to hearing this. Get used to hearing this. You can see it now. Toronto Undercover. Special Victims Unit. Oh, my God. Baka hear this and start sweating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see was eating that flute up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoever's on the flute. Yeah, whoever did that flute. The flute solo going crazy.
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Big Ice Cup Cat
It's crazy.
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Deontay Kyle
Baka hear that goddamn flute. Oh, yeah. Baka starts with bullets. Yeah. As soon as we see Baka anywhere near a minor. Oh, Drake. I'm telling you, Drake, you got a pathway to freedom. You can just Law and Order, svu, Toronto, and just stop. Stop dissing, okay? Nobody cares. You can't diss LeBron, nigga. LeBron on the golf court talking golf course, talking like a real N. Yeah, yeah. I said, oh, I better go pick up them clubs. Fuck you talking about? Yeah, you learn from Mike Mike, what you want? We ain't never seen Kobe pick up the clubs. Kobe was. I'm finna stay in this basketball shit. Rest in peace. LeBron out there with Steph Curry and Mike Jordan. LeBron the. Yeah. Bet it up. They don't know. That's what the goat on the. That's what the goat on the course. Yeah. He ain't on. He on there being friendly with. No, no, no, no. All the bets being placed that. Yeah. 100,000. They say that's where the deals go down now. That's where the bets get place, nigga. You know what I'm saying? What did I miss? Let's talk about this. Let's talk about what you might have missed. This clips rollout.
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Self Made Cool
Oh.
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Deontay Kyle
Fire, man. Those guys are great conversations. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to the clips. I'm gonna tell you something that's so fire about this rollout is you got the album title. Let God Sort them Out and then them getting interviewed by the creator of Fear of God. M. Chef's Kiss Magnifique masterpiece. Magnifique. And then they speak. So, bro, listen, first of all, great job on whoever raised those two fellas. Yeah. Because not only are they scholars of the dope game. Shakespearean of the dope game. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Take your crack. Elevate it. Yeah. Elevate that crack. Why you make crack look so, so good? Damn. Lord willing N With Jesus in the back seat Black Jesus Dre is swinging in the breeze Ride around Virginia, be selling all type of dope. Lord willing, Lord willing, Lord willing. Get the dope off. Get it off. Get this pack off to becoming very avant garde about how they sell this cocaine. Yeah. Malice. No malice. Hasn't missed a beat. Has not. God damn. He's a rapper. Poetic. Mm. Niggas say over 500,000. That's what we call focaccia. I had to look that up. What the fuck is focaccia? What does it mean? It's just bread. It's very expensive bread. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's. That's the bread that take time. You can't go buy that out the store. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you gotta. You gotta get some yeast and let it rise. Let it rise. Fasha. Gotta put it in the oven with the fire. Yeah, yeah, you gotta. You gotta score it. Yeah. Oh, shout out to Pusha T for just keeping it without Pusha T just keeping the ball going, dealing with this bullshit in the industry. His brother is having a spiritual war. He's going through a battle of consciousness. Yeah. And Pusha T say, fuck it. I'm gonna keep going. I'm gonna keep it going. And I'm gonna talk about cocaine as if it is art. Yes. It's like a Basquiat painting. Van Gogh. Cocaine. I mean, cocaine keeps the world economy going. It does. S. J.P. morgan. They got 500 kilos. Like a 000. You ever seen that? Yeah, we watched it. Yeah. Had a order 500,000 kilo. What the. And jalapeno pepper. Bus cans. Big cans. Can't sniff that out. Can't sniff that out. Can't smell past the jalapeno juice. Your dog. I don't care how good of a German shepherd you have. I require a different type of dog. Truffle pig to find that shit. But shout out to the clips, man. Let God sort them out. We'll be dropping. What? It'll be dropping in two days from the time this air goes. Yes, yes. Oh, I can't wait. And we got our tickets. We got our tickets. We got our tickets. We are in the mezzanine August 14th. We there. Oh, well, if you listening to this now, yesterday we was at the Absol Show. Oh, so. What a life. Bask in it, nigga. What a life. Yeah. We ain't changing, just the circumstances. What did I miss? Let me tell you what I missed, all right? I missed the times when I really believed that Gillian Wallow was going to give us a million dollars worth a game. God damn it, Gil. God damn it, Gil. Let's play the clip real quick. Yeah, play the clip, son. So know what we talking about on here. And. And not so much Wallow. Wallow. He. He Wallow gonna be out in the street making it happen. Wallow will run outside in the rain. Wallow will cry in front of a 100 gangsters about how serious he is about keeping him out the street. But Gilly, what does Gilly do? What the fuck is he talking. Just saying anything. Just saying any goddamn thing. He got the check and just went through his head.
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Big Ice Cup Cat
I'm gonna do that by of course, putting out music, but also like helping brothers where I can. Cause I feel like we need more of that. Like, you know, we was having a conversation off the record before we came on cameras, just about, you know, the old generation to the new generation and how it wasn't enough passing of the guard, you know. So that's something that I wish to tap into as time goes on, you know what I'm saying? Like, I want to definitely have a reputation for looking out for, you know, dope artists who coming up, but who's also competitive, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think it's not enough of that, especially in the genre of or in the space in the hip hop world that I exist in. I feel like it's not enough of us lyrical helping each other out. Cause we, you know what I'm saying, We trying to outshine each other and be the best or whatever. But yeah, I mean, I think we could all coexist and I think it could be dope to give each other the helping hand. Even if you trying to take my head off, you should do that. That's what you should want to do, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, that's just. That's always been my mindset on it. Like, you know, I come from that competitive nature of it. And yeah, it's a sport, man. And I love the game.
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Deontay Kyle
Now that's a million dollars worth of game, right? Even if you coming from my spot, I'm still gonna open up the doorway for you. Because you can't take away the legacy, right? Can't take away the legacy. Can't stop the motion that I already got, right? Cannot. Can't stop this motion. Especially not on a rap like, Right, we know who Ray Vaughn is now, right? Exactly. You know what I'm saying? But ain't gonna stop us from listening to Joey Badass for sure. It ain't gonna stop Joey Badass from being unique for sure. And you can't. And it ain't gonna stop that finals verse that he dropped. Tearing all them ass up. Joey showed like, no, I'm really OG in this. Yeah, I can really rap. I can really rap. I could really get witchy. Yeah, yeah. But have at it, you know what I'm saying? Let's see how Gilly and Waller respond to this.
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Big Ice Cup Cat
Let me speak on the passing of the guard, right? Because a lot of youngins, and I'm not speaking on you, but a lot of youngins in the game be looking like. Be looking at like, man, they've been doing it for so long, they don't want to put a young on. They don't want to pass it off. They don't want to. But you gotta understand that one time, say somebody like Funk Flex, somebody like DJ Cosmic Kev, who been at the radio stations forever, DJ Clue, DJ Greg street, shout out to the. You feel what I'm saying? At one time, they was young DJs, right? Just hoping to get on. You feel what I'm saying? Or LeBron James, he was a young player that was just hoping to get to the league.
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Deontay Kyle
When a nigga do a whole Bunch of build up and name dropping. Yeah. You just know some bullshit. Bullshit behind it. I just don't. I don't see how this is gonna end positive. Because what do they have to do anything with what Joey said. Right. All right, let's see. We having fun today. Now I'm telling you, shit, finna get deep. Okay. But we're gonna start out something like, you know, last week we gave him a 30 minute recap. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? All right, there you go.
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Big Ice Cup Cat
You feel what I'm saying? Now when they get there, they trying to hold on to that as long as possible. Because after my dream is done at the my, I also feed my family off this. LeBron James in his 23rd year. He ain't not once said this the new king that trying to go out there and work.
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Deontay Kyle
Okay. That's a lie. LeBron James has a whole show dedicated with Steve Nash. Dedicated. They're showing other basketball players and giving them props. He done told you that Aunt Edwards is the future. He done told you Luca is the future. Like several times. Also, like, terrible comparison. Right? There's literally nothing you can do to take away from LeBron James's legacy. Nothing. Nigga has a billion dollars from Nike. Yeah. He has a school. Yeah. He's in great shape. Magnificent. I'm talking about terrible example, Gilly, for this hater that you've been. He's gonna drop the hater of the year quote. I can feel it coming. I can feel some hater of the year content like this has got to be top five hating of the year. All right. I just feel it. Cause you bringing LeBron into it. Let's hear. Let's hear, brother. Let's. Let us hear. Let us hear it. Now.
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Big Ice Cup Cat
I'm not saying that you can't uplift some young, help some young get in position. But the reality of it is ain't no trying to put no other in a position to take his job. I just feel like if you really believe that you that, then that shouldn't stop you. But if I'm a. If I'm an og, right? And we all work different and.
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Deontay Kyle
You mean if you are, you are og. We gotta put down the weed. Shut up, my nigga. Stephen A. Smith. Hold on. At some point, you old niggas got to put the blunt down. I wanna know what your real mind think right now. This is very THC influenced thinking. Put the weed down. Pick up a book.
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Big Ice Cup Cat
See that, that young is that. I know that he's more in tune with the culture right now, everything around the board, he young. He got me be everywhere around the board. That young gotta come take my job. I can't put that young in position to get me out the way. And now I'm running around, can't feed my family. I think it's too much money out here for all of us, you know what I'm saying? But it's only a certain amount of positions that's right there.
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Deontay Kyle
You know what I'm saying? You right, though.
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Big Ice Cup Cat
But at the same time, it's like, when are we gonna shift from the individual mindset to the collective one? You know what I'm saying? Because what you just said is that gonna be. That's just how we are as a culture, as people. You know what I'm saying?
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Deontay Kyle
It's.
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Big Ice Cup Cat
And minds. And it's like.
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Deontay Kyle
First of all, has anybody that listened to million dollars worth of game stopped listening to million dollars worth of game because they heard Grit Snares podcast? Probably, or they probably just listen to both now, right? You can't. This is a lack mentality, bruh. It's a lack mentality. This is why niggas don't respect the OGs, right? When is enough enough? Well, you gotta ask yourself that. This is how I feed my family. But we also have to look at patterns if we gonna bring in LeBron and Jordan and things like that. LeBron is not playing the best basketball of his career. I'm pretty sure he put his. I'm pretty sure at the peak of his career, though. Yeah, he's putting that money up right? He's. If you really care about how you feed your family and feed your kids, then when you get in the money, you got to put it up right? Can't blow it all right? You can't buy 200 cars. You can't just blow the money. And you can't make it seem like it's gonna last forever. There is no proof. There is nobody that can show you that it lasts forever. There's peaks and there's valleys. Right when you at the peak of your career and it almost feel unreal. What they sound like, what, 200? Not 200. It was like 50 million. Hundred million dollar deal. Can't nobody take that money away from you, man. Yeah, that's a contract. They owe it. They're contractually obligated to give you that money. So when is enough, you're supposed to be like, boom, hey, See, this will happen when you. When. When you. You. When you're under the mentorship of the White man, you over there bar stool sports with that racist Dave Portnoy. Oh, giving you million dollars worth of game. Million dollars worth of day. Don't get these nothing. Let them starve. Let them starve. And put. And put the over on Caitlin Clark. Oh, shit. Wallow was quiet. Cause Wallow. Yeah, I think Wallo is more in line with. I mean, Wallo's proven it throughout his career that he willing to give you some real game, put people in position. I don't know them brothers personally. So if Wallow is in the same mentality that Gil is, at least he ain't. He not showing. He ain't showing. Because that's a crazy way to think. It's a million dollars worth of game, but I won't give it to you. Might well change the show name. We gotta change the name of the show. Yeah. Cause telling niggas, put the guns down. Don't go to prison. That ain't a million dollars worth of game. Niggas been saying that forever. Yeah, that's free game. Actually, at this point. At this point, anybody could tell you that shit. Your mama was telling you that before you heard of Gillian Wallow. Put the guns down. Jeff Dale or hell. Jail, death, or hell. These are the three options, right? We've been hearing that since we was 10, 12 years old. Facts. That ain't no game. So where's the million dollars worth of game come in now? The way that Joey put it out there, now, that's a million dollars worth of game. Good game. That's good game. I done cemented myself. They can't take it. There's a lack mentality, right? It's a lack mentality. This is why I hate the cookout so much. Oh, now a white person, you'll open that gate up for them. This ain't got nothing to do with Gilly. This is just a pure example. This is how a lot of old heads think. This is how a lot of niggas think in general. Okay? A white person can sing a song and do a dance and show a little rhythm. We'll open up the gate for them floodgates. Floodgates get open. Yeah. We'll walk them, we'll celebrate them right into a fucking bag, and then they'll call theyself the originator of it. You talk about. I'm not gonna put in a position for what a podcast. Put them in what position? That's why it ain't no nother niggas up there at Barstool Sports. Because y' all are over there in the old system where it's only room for one nigga at a time. We seen that in Hollywood. When it was Eddie Murphy, it was Eddie Murphy. When it was Martin, it was Martin. When it was Will, it was Will. When it was Kevin Hart, it was Kevin Hart. We enter into a new guard of things where it's room for everybody, bruh. It's room for everybody. Everybody can eat. It's 8 billion people in the world, bro. And only niggas think it ain't enough room for everybody. Ain't enough money for everybody. Hey, you can't even write, nigga. Gillian Wallow can't write no nigga the check that Derek Barstool wrote them. Not at all. But it ain't enough money. If they can write the check for you, they can write the check for somebody else. Especially somebody coming up under you. The issue is you done got the money. You're looking at the numbers, and you know that the show in and of itself is past its prime. Now it's a staple like the Breakfast Club. Right? You know what I'm saying? It's still gonna be people that tune in. Cause they like Gilly and Waldo. They like the dynamic. But Wallow, you know, first four years of the podcast, we can only hear so many prison stories. Yeah. So now we gotta get into the real game part. Gilly had the shit a million dollars worth of game he was doing on Instagram that kind of blew him up. Cause he didn't make it in the rap game. And they blew up and they had they time and they become a staple. You know, artists, when they go on, they roll out and they doing they press tour. Million dollars worth of game is a stop, bro. That's solid. Y' all are part of black media. Yeah. What are you talking about? You can't leave room for? Nigga, I bought all this shit myself. This episode is brought to you by LifeLock. Between two factor authentication, strong passwords, and a VPN, you try to be in control of how your info is protected. But many other places also have it, and they might not be as careful. That's why LifeLock monitors hundreds of millions of data points a second for threats. If your identity is stolen, they'll fix it, guaranteed, or your money back. Save up to 40% your first year. Visit lifelock.com podcast for 40% off. Terms apply. We don't want to be on Barstool. We good. You don't got to worry about us. N. It's this gate to you, this lack mentality, this is why the young niggas don't feel like they can listen to the OGs. Because you'll say something like that loud and proud. He got the youth. He got the streets. I can't fuck with him in no type of way. So I got to block his blessing. I got to make sure I keep the gate closed so I can secure my position. How about this? After you signed X amount of million dollars worth of billions of dollars worth of money, put the money up, invest the money properly. Invest the money properly. Make sure that your kids gonna eat for the rest of your life. So you ain't gotta worry about that. If you can't do it with 50 million, you can't do it with 500. Cause how you do things in small, how you do small things is how you do big things. We know that the overflow don't last forever. So while we in a state of overflow, we gotta put something up. Even the squirrels know the winter is coming. Nigga, you telling y' all niggas, you. You more talented than me. You more gifted than me. No, no, this is the thing. This. This the. This is the big hoorah. And this is the. This is the bubble that just burst in real time. Niggas realize they ain't getting a million dollars worth of game out of y'.
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Self Made Cool
All.
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Deontay Kyle
That's what it really come down to. Now, we've been loud and proud supporters of Wallow. I've been. I've been loud. I haven't really seen. I think Gilly's funny. You know, he got the cultural context right. I used to like watching him when he was beefing with niggas on DVDs and shit. Come on, man. Yeah, but Gilly. Since when was it okay for Daniel's son to challenge Mr. Miyake? You took that shit and ran with it. Damn. You started Block Cassidy Shine in Philly. Yeah. Cause he said he know you. That's always been who he is, I guess. Oh, man, Gil, come on, cuz. That ain't it. That ain't just. Ain't it. That ain't the way. We have to undo that way of thinking. That's a lack mentality. Because now you're making it seem like the. The. The abundance ain't abundant. Like you the only one can get a 50 million dollar check, right? But if the next young nigga. What? People ain't gonna stop listening just because somebody new came along. This is Media Charlemagne, perfect example. What did Charlamagne do? You can look at who he is as a Person. And whether you like him or dislike him, right? When, when Breakfast Club was on that syndicated and they was the biggest show in the country, he took that influence and power and built his own network. Black Effect. And what does he do with that? He puts other up and coming people in black media in positions to become the next Charlamagne, you know what I'm saying? So to speak. It's not necessarily recreating how he do media, but giving them opportunity to express themselves in media. Absolutely right. Not worried about them taking his position. He's Charlamagne of God. He know who he is. You Gilly the kid. Gilly the king. Damn, you just gonna lift the moat up. You gonna lift, you gonna. You gonna draw the bridge back and let niggas fall into the moat. Cause you the king. Come on, cuz, that ain't the way to do shit. Now we gotta change the name of the show. What we gonna change it to? Maybe a little bit of game. Just a little bit. All a nigga really needs is a little bit. A little bit of this, a little bit of that. Might not even get you no game. This is an issue. You know what I'm saying? It's a gatekeeping mentality, Right? Gatekeeping. But in order to become a gatekeeper yourself, somebody had to hand you the keys. So imagine if the person who put you in position spoke a good word for you. Imagine if the gatekeeper that came before you would have X'd you out. Or maybe you feel like ain't nobody put you in your position because niggas love to have this self made mentality. Self made. It's a boss. It's a boss. Well, he's an employee. I wasn't gonna say it because it was. It was the. I know you was taking it. I know. I' ma see it. Barstool Sports. Employee of Barstool Sports. Million dollar worth of game. Million dollars worth of game. Man. Shout out to y' all brothers, man. We hope y'. All. We, we, we. We want success and more blessings to come to you. So you don't feel like somebody coming to take it. Facts. But the fact that you think like that means somebody is coming to take that spot. Yeah, he feels the pressure. You under the pressure. You feeling the pressure. They had a meeting. Yeah, we gotta do something about them grits and eggs niggas. Can't let them n take a spot, son. Take a lot of spots, son. Nah. Guess what? It's too late, baby. It's too late, baby. New world order. We putting a lot of cream in the streets. Nah, man, we just over here doing our own thing, man. You know what I'm saying? And y' all love it. You know, people can shout out to Joey, man, for standing on that. All right, let's talk about the importance of being a great character actor. There's a lot of character actors out there right now. For people that don't know the character actor may be the person that appears in the film that adds to the story. Gotcha. You know, we got our star and the journey that they're going through, right? But without the supporting cast, you know, we see this in Straw. Okay, so the movie Straw, as good as Taraji did, she did it at such a level that besides the bank teller, everybody else was like, God damn, man. She's. I mean, leaps and bounds ahead of them as far as acting, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can see the acting. We can see the acting. We didn't get immersed or lost in the universe of what Tyler Perry was trying to create because there was one clear star there. And without character actors and without people who help build onto the blocks of this universe, we don't get lost in the story. We're not captivated by it. You need a good character actor, right? There's people that make careers off of character acting, for sure. Somebody like a Jeffrey Wright, even though he has been lead in some films, think about him in the Manchurian, Canada. You know, Think about him as people's Hernandez in Shaft. Think about his role in Westworld. He be smoking shit. Okay? But think. Let's think even more about his role in Manchurian Candidate where he really brought you into that universe. Like, damn, Denzel really done got into some shit. Now look at what they done did to this nigga, man. What was they doing to y' all on that island? Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Think about. There's just a bunch of people that have made careers out of being great character actors, great supporting cast members. And they didn't show up and say, well, I should be the lead. They showed up and said, this is the role that I got. I'm gonna play the fuck out this role. Shit. Big ice cup. There you go. The thing is, is that, you know, in order to be a great leader, you have to first learn how to be a great follower. You have to be able to follow direction. You have to be able to address the spots where you are a subordinate and be great at subordination. Right. Cause insubordination ain't gonna get you nowhere. Right? Right. But so long as the goal is to be a leader, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people don't have aspirations of leading anything, which is why they can't follow anything. So if you show up and your role is to be, you know, guy number three, you can't just phone it in because it matters to the context of the movie. It makes the film. Once we see acting, it ruins the fantasy for us. It ruins the film. There's a lot of people that play their role in Sinners. We all understood that Michael B. Jordan, being the twins, was a star. But let's talk about Delroy Lindo without Delta Slim. Is that movie what it is? Without Mary? Is the movie what it is? Without any. Is the movie what it is? We need great character actors to play alongside the lead. And sometimes in your life you gonna find yourself being a character actor. And how are you gonna show up? Cause if you can't be a great character actor, damn show ain't gonna be no good lead. And there's people who make careers off of just, hey, I'm on the books, you feel me? I'm showing up and I'm gonna be in support. I'm a part of the supporting cast. Somebody like Morgan Freeman has played great character acting roles throughout his career. Cause everybody ain't gonna be Denzel. Some people just got that ick factor where, hey, they the star for life, right? But this the point of the film. A good film is where you got to remind yourself you watching a movie, you know what I'm saying? Because great film really pulls you in. Like, God damn, nigga, I am in a whole nother world right now. Everybody is acting they ass off to the point where they believe it, so you believe it, right? Right? And this is the part where they missing on a million dollars worth of game. You're not gonna be the lead forever. You gonna have your season of leading and sometimes you go back and you gonna be in the background. William Dafoe has done it. William Dafoe started out character actor, had his lead roles, went back into the character actor. But he maintained a career. He didn't take it for granted when he was in front when he was in the spotlight. But you also have to understand don't last forever. But with efficiency, consistency, good business practices, showing up, treating others properly, you gonna work forever. Gatekeeping and cutting people off at the knees. Guess what? Be careful how you treat people on the way up. Cause your day is coming when you on the way down and they on the way up and they gonna remember how you treated them. It's important just in the game of life to understand when you in your season of character acting. I done been there before. I done supported plenty of people when the spotlight was on them. I ain't hate. I wasn't mad about it. I understood what I wanted for myself and I understood that this isn't the opportunity to take. This is an opportunity to learn. You can learn a lot of things from watching other people and how they operate when the light is on them. And now that I'm in my season where the light on me and trust me, I could feel it, it's only gonna get brighter. It's important for me to the people that's outside this spotlight that I can pull them into it anytime I need to. I can pull a big cat, huh? New music Monday. We got a little surprise. They don't even know. They don't even know what just happened with the new Music Monday. They don't know how pulled my brother into that light. But you also have to understand that people are not gonna use your brain to do their thinking. So there's an issue with the intelligence of having an ego, right? That ego of intelligence where you want people to use your brain to do they thinking. And we quick to call people, what, stupid when they don't think the way we think, right? Call people dumb and disregard their experiences and the things they've been through in life and things like that. And I'm guilty of it as well. Like sometimes I just feel like, nigga doing something stupid. You know what I'm saying? But they not gonna use your brain to do they thinking. And we gotta give people grace. But we also have to understand that it's okay to leave people to their own devices sometimes. Right? You can explain it. You can use great analogies. You can give them a whole playbook, and they could throw the playbook away and just say, hey, I got my own plays written up already. And you gotta be graceful enough to say, okay, you do that. But also, you got to be generous and kind enough in your heart and not say, I told you so. If they circle back saying you was right because they not using your brain to do their thinking. And we. We. We falter a lot with that, with. Because. Because we see other people's potential and we know what we would do with their potential. Now they let us down when they don't follow the blueprint that we would have set up for them. Right? Right. And we do this a lot in relationships. Women do this a lot. They see a man. And because of the way that you think about things, because of the way that you would capitalize on certain talents or skills, because of the network you done built for yourself, because of the things, experiences you done had and things you done learned and gathered, the tools you done gathered throughout your life. It's like, oh, I know exactly what to do with his skill set. I know exactly what to do with his potential. And then you start living in a reality of a potential you projecting onto him because of your brain. Now, you resent him when he don't use your brain to do his thinking, or you resent him when you build him up and then he leave you building niggas. Build a nigga, build a nigga. Workshop left you for a white bitch. Kanye told y'. All, Build a nigga. Workshop left you for a red bone. Build a N. Workshop left you for a Latino. Oh. Cause you want him to use your brain to do his thinking. You want your homegirl to use your brain to do her thinking. I done had plenty of niggas that I wish would just take my brain for a moment. But I gotta also understand the times when my brain wasn't giving me nothing to work with, man. Giving me nothing but bad ideas. And we all been there. And you grow past it. Your brain is yours, and it's got it locked and secure with your experiences, your memories, your knowledge, your information. Only you got that. Use your brain to maximize yourself and be thoughtful and mindful of others on your way up. You could pave the road for a motherfucker. You can't make them travel it. You could bring a horse to water. You can't make them drink. That's okay, because guess what? The same way you led that horse to water, there was another horse close by. Watch. Oh, damn. All I had to do was follow them. This is where the water at. Somebody gonna want to drink that motherfucker, and they gonna give you the credit. But you got to be patient, you got to be kind. Sometimes the people you want it to happen for ain't gonna happen for them. But don't close the gate on them. Don't be fearful that they're gonna take care of you. Take your position. What a tell you what they going through. I had to shop at H and M. My finances, my finances. We was in the Bloomingdale's, and I was like, oh, my God. Oh, it's so expensive. I gotta go back and shop at H and M. It's a monkey business right there. God damn it. God damn it motherfucker telling you about they struggles, bitch. I had to stop at 18 them. I thought we was done with fast fashion. Look, man, that's so crazy. What Motherfucker tell you my lights was off. I was had to stop H and M. I feel you. Oh, girl, I relate. Oh, girl, let me tell you. I had to shop at H. Praise Jesus. Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. They would have had to end the recording. I would have box be somebody on ass out. I'm out. Really trauma dumping. I would have snatched that wig. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. This is a struggle Olympics. You gonna bring up H and M. I'm telling you, I couldn't afford to be in the mall. I couldn't afford to get to the mall. Real. There goes your mic. Deontay strikes again. Five times. Five times. Five times. I tell you, man, you know, we have to do better as a community with our response to abundance. Right. And understanding, you know? Justin. Justin, come up here now. What if I was? Well, I want to be the one that if anybody's going to start an organization, it's going to be me. I can't have Justin Ellis Brooks up here talking about how he's doing things for the kids in Inglewood. Fuck Justin Ellis. That's great. That sound crazy as hell. No. You got a platform. Okay, Come use the platform so we can get the money to these babies, Right? Oh, speaking of Umoja now. Mm. What happened? We 60% there, baby. Oh, man. All you gotta do is give a dollar. Power of a dollar. Mm. We'll have some more details lined up next week, but I tell you, the power of a dollar. 65. I think he said 65% of the goal. 65 or 69? 1. That's dope. Well, we over halfway there. That's dope. Thanks to your donations and we appreciate your support. You know, I'm doing what I can to support that, brother. Y' all have done what y' all can, and every dollar counts. Every dollar counts. You know what I'm saying? We talk a lot about tithing and offering, right? Grandma used to be faithful about tithing and offering. But how can we as a community use 10% of our income to do some good? We don't gotta give it to the pastor. You can give it right back to the community. What does that look like? You know what I'm saying? What does that look like? You need to find the organizations that are doing for the community. We giving you one right there. You made $100 this week. Give $10 to the Udemo, Janelle, help them babies. They gonna have their book bags. They gonna get good food, health and wellness centers, get their mind right. You know what I'm saying? Kids out there, a thing that we disregard a lot too, is food insecurity. Yeah. And a lot of these kids ain't gonna eat as well when school is out as they will when school is in because they depending on their meal. And think about the effects that that has on the mental health of a child. Think about the inclination to just go ahead and jump out there and get in the street and say, fuck school. Right? See what I'm saying? Cause you see niggas eat. But I would say right now, just start with a dollar. Let's build that trust up. You ain't gonna miss that dollar. But they gonna benefit so greatly from it, right? Just one. We'll be right back after this commercial break. We back. All right. So conversation we was having last week, I saw a lot of people start, they wanted to talk about the class warfare. And they say, like, the real issue, the real warfare is class warfare. And you know, these things work as a pyramid, right? But foundationally, they like to separate people in class, and they like to cast people to the lower caste based on race. And we. The first layer that has to be addressed is the racism issue. And specifically poor white racism, which is used as a veil for classism. Right? The rich upper class white people, as racist as they may be, are gonna give opportunities to black and brown people if it can make the money, right? The racism aside, now you might can't get into certain rooms. You might not be privy to certain conversations. You may be being used as a pawn, but they will pull you up if you can make them some money. And if you take on their mentality, which is more of a capitalistic thing, if you take on that serial capitalist exploitive mentality, that mentality of individualism, they'll welcome you on in the black blue light does exist. Black Boule does exist. But let's talk about poor white racism and the veil that it creates for the class war as a shield for their egos and their inferiority complex. It's hard to be racist when you start to see things like a LeBron James, right? And that just contextually in sports, but black people being great in every facet of it. Black people being great and academics as well in engineering, all these black inventions that are actually propping up your home right now. You got to donate a lot of innovation that exists in this modern world to the mind of Black people, your Zoom call, your basic algorithm for the Internet, the code itself, these come out of black minds. So it's hard to prop it up as racism and as black people being inferior to you when black people have done so many superior things to that of the average poor white. And the poor white only has their skin to hang onto. They don't have the accomplishments to hang on to. They haven't really been. This is why they like to say shit like what white privilege. Like, I'm poor and my family on drugs, we'll be going to prison, just like, you know. And they like to liken it to the struggle of black people while having no context or any resemblance of that same struggle and actually perpetuate that violence and racism against those people who they say they have no privilege over. And it's just an inferiority complex. And we need to make. We want to make class the bigger issue because it is a big issue, but it's like a pyramid scheme, and it serves as a need to ignore how vile and ultimately evil racism is and has been for the black American and other groups of people of color throughout this country and people throughout the Diaspora, colonization in and of itself is just vile and evil. When we talk about the cannibalism, you know, just getting. Just getting down to the point of eating a person, we talking crazy. We talk about the trail of tears infecting blankets with like, all these different diseases that these people carry and passed off to give people smallpox by the thousands. You understand what I'm saying? The disgusting nature of race may be the reason why people want to hurry up and skip past it. Because if you really examine the evil that people have done and what's been permissible due to their racism and due to their rationalization of it, right? They try to rationalize it academically. They try to prove scientifically that black people are inferior yet so. And subhuman so we can do these things to them, you know. But this is how you get your advances in gynecology. This is how you get your advances, in some cases in sociology used to be seen as crazy for not wanting to be on the plantation. So they rationalize these things as a way to carry out evil and to justify their position in power in this country, right? So as we get, you know, post post industrial revolution Reconstruction, black people coming up with all these inventions, black people gaining capital for themselves, black people building communities for themselves, and those communities constantly being destroyed out of pure envy. This doesn't match up with the narrative. These people are subhuman. How are they gaining capital? How are they building towns? How are they reading books? They're supposed to be subhuman, they're supposed to be inferior. How are they building? How are they surpassing me? Then we get to the technological age, right? Black people blowing up on all these different places. And it's the racism that will keep a black person, that is a creator from reaching the same amount of like, you know, financial heights that some mundane and mediocre white creators do. White creators get on there, talk about nothing. All they got to do is be conventionally attractive by the European standard. They throw millions of dollars at them. Black creators put a lot of, a lot of time, creativity, nuance, complexity into their content, just for a fraction of it. And then when we go back to situations where we talk about gatekeeping, the people that could give the opportunities don't out of fear of losing their position because these people are younger, more in touch with the culture, more in tune with the post of the streets and the youth and bringing skill sets that these older people don't have and don't know how to have because they didn't grow up with the same technology. They fear themselves being replaced. And the reality is, unless you're just going to be a relic, everything gets replaced. And you should allow people to replace you with grace. But that poor white racism, right, it's insidious, it's infected the brain. And it's also an indicator of poor socialization and uneducated thinking, especially when it's internalized. How many black people are walking around with the minds of a poor white man hating themselves and rationalizing others hate towards us, Rationalizing, you know, violence, violence, state violence against us, you know, hanging out with, recreating things like George Floyd's death. You, you ever seen that? Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Doing shit like that. How, how much more insidious is it when it's internalized? And you try to justify this dude on the Internet right now on TikTok, just terrible head of hair, black dude, terrible head of hair. The most discriminated man in this country by far is the white man. This is a black boy, said this with his full chest. Gets a little vile when it's internalized. So this is a fight that black people are up against too. Not only are we up a fight against the class issue and the race issue, but then the internalized anti blackness that we deal with from our own community, we, we could, we could. When we stumble upon new information outside of our community, we, we take it and we run with it. Somebody that makes a point, somebody makes a point that sparks your interest outside of your community. You want to hear what everything else they got to say? Somebody within your community say something that you agree with sparks your interest. You waiting on them to say the wrong thing. You waiting on a downfall. So even if we don't get to ascend to a point where we meet the gatekeepers, hell, y' all gatekeep. We gatekeep ourselves all the time. As Jay Z said, crabs in a barrel mentality, right? They ain't tell you the crabs don't belong in the barrel. We gotta address the barrel. Why we even in here? Yeah, why the fuck am I in a barrel? Yeah, they're preparing me for the air fryer. I understand the, the anger that comes along with this knowledge, right? The anger. When you go back and you study that history and you see how vile some of their actions were against us, how disgusting some of those actions are, it can make you hate white people. This is why we don't like watching all that trauma pouring out of slave movies. Because that should have had you mad at white folks. But the reality is you need to know what was done. You need to know the mentalities that are out there against you. Go watch a movie like the Order. The Order will show you in these places unseen in these places like Utah, Idaho, Southern Oregon, things like that. These people really exist in pockets of white supremacy, Aryan Nations, Nazis. These people really exist in pockets and they hate you in your existence. And they wage, they gain a lot of capital and are able to put people in positions of power in politics through lobbying and support, right? So yes, the class issue is something we have to address. We have to understand that, like the reason why they don't want solidarity between people of color, the reason why there is a push and an agenda to create a narrative about the black American so everybody stays away from us. So everybody looks at us as something to look down upon. You know, if we, if we want to put it on two sides of this coin, and the black side is here and the white side is here, there is always a push to assimilate to that white side through capitalism, through, you know, through anti blackness and things like that. But the race issue is where it starts. Because the race issue is how you internalize anti blackness. The racism is how you buy into stereotypes about black people that haven't been proved to you. Right? Also, you go set up shop in the worst of the worst, the most poor and the most uneducated black people. You go Set up, shot up over there. Yeah, you will have confirmation bias of those stereotypes. Because that's what they hope to, that's what they hope to assimilate. That's like the entry point to assimilate into whiteness. Well, I don't wanna be like these niggas and ignore all historical context, ignore the war on drugs, ignore redlining, ignore Jim Crow and go back to the root and ignore slavery and its effects, its very present day effects. You ignore all those things so you can't assimilate into whiteness. Because assimilating to whiteness is assimilating into the upper class. And the class issue is a big issue. And the class issue is the bigger war. Because by perpetuating racism, we stop people from thinking about class and we stop. And they don't see themselves as equal to each other. When we are shout out to the garbage men and the union out there in Philadelphia that is on strike trying to get their wages, we should support that. Yeah, it's a little uncomfortable. It stank a little bit. But these people. But do it without them. Can you do it without them? What does your yard look like? Even if you live in the suburbs? What does it look like outside your house? If they don't come for a month, they deserve a good wage. And they ask him, look, $100,000 ain't crazy in today's economy because it really rounds out to about 65, 75 after taxes. And once it's adjusted for inflation, it might be a little less than that. So as a people of working class, we have to support each other and all of our efforts. We have to understand that like even with these ice rays and things like that, how it's going to affect the Haitian American and it already is, how it's going to affect the everyday black American if you get mistaken for being an immigrant and birthright citizenship don't mean shit. So fuck your, fuck your birth certificate. But if we can't see beyond like everybody wants to move on to the class issue. Y' all not looking beyond race. So it's a class issue. And then if we get the class issue figured out, you can't figure out the class issue without solving the race issue. Cause there ain't no solidarity that can contain anti blackness. There ain't no solidarity that can contain homophobia or transphobia. There ain't no solidarity that contains misogyny or massage noir. It just don't exist. And all of these different obstacles that they put up in this working class to keep us divided is how are they are so able to be successful in the class war. They keep us fighting each other over menial things and over things of identity. And if we keep fighting over our identity, then we won't be. We won't really see how we're identified in the bigger picture, which is as the working class, the lower 99% people that make everything happen that day to day. You remember when niggas was essential workers? I was driving trucks, Covid ain't stopped me. I was going state to state. Still, if it's essential in the time of need when the country got a shutdown, then it's essential every day of the week. And we have to be able to put ourselves in a position where we respect everyone no matter what their occupation is. Billionaire worship has to be out the window. Cause what are they doing for you? Creating big, beautiful bills. That's what you get out of billionaire worship, and that's what you get from poor white racism, people that support it. Just because the faces of those billionaires are white. Because if it was Jay Z and Oprah present that big, beautiful bill, they'd have executed them niggas. So even when we. Even when we come up to the issue of class and racism being a proxy war for the ultimate war, which is class warfare, and that's how the top 1% of 1% thrive. Because you can't get past the identity of a person, because you can't get out your own way about how it affects your identity and who you are. You've been sold a lie. You've been sold a fallacy of white supremacy. But in action, it's white inferiority. The rich gonna keep getting richer, and your ass gonna be so poor, you gonna have to live in virtual reality. Look like black mirror. A black mirror. You're gonna be like Daniel Kalua on that bike, eating that apple something at Kula in the building. We're gonna take a quick break, and then we're gonna get into this advice. Ow we back. Advice for a creative. Trying to stay creative. Good afternoon, Mr. Kyle. Hope all is well. I just wanted to reach out and tell you how much I love your content and what you've been doing for the community and the culture. You, along with others in your space, have helped me tremendously with figuring out who I am and what I want to stand for and how I want to navigate and aid my community. I recently graduated with a bfa. Just sit down.
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Self Made Cool
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Deontay Kyle
You trying to sneak past the camera, nigga? Just gonna get past it, nigga. Trying to creep, creep his way up past the goddamn camera. We already said you was in the building, baby. You look good, man. You look good. I recently graduated with a BFA in fine arts majoring in advertisement Advertising. I am pursuing a career as an art director, hopefully in the near future. I've been creative my whole life, and listening to you has kind of helped me find some inspiration to create more. My question to you is, how do you stay creative and motivated when everything feels like everything is against you? I know life after college has its ups and downs, but it's still a bit disheartening. The job market sucks. Thanks again for just spreading positivity and trying to help us look at things in our community a little differently. Always recommend y' all to everyone I talk to whenever I have the opportunity to. Also wanted to send you some artwork I created for you and Big Cat. Tried to do it on IG, but can't send photos through DMs, which is understandable and just want to show my appreciation for what you do. And I know that you already have someone who does all your art and graphics. I don't want to step on anyone's toes or be disrespectful. She does an amazing job. But if you ever need any artwork done or posters made for any events you'll be doing, I'd be happy to help y' all have a blessed day. This artwork is dope too. Oh, shit. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. Pretty good. The thing is, is that if you were creative, you're gonna stay creative. The world punishes creativity. Cause they need us rigid. They need us robotic. You know what I'm saying? Jobs gotta get done. We was just talking about it. They need you to remain working class. Creativity expands past just working. Creativity is the art of creating. The only creation that this country likes to praise is the creation of jobs. You know what I'm saying? This will create. We're gonna put a toxic chemical plant right next to this black neighborh. Is going to create a thousand jobs. Yeah, and all thousand of them niggas gonna have cancer about 35. But we're creating jobs. We're also creating entryway into the big pharma, you know what I'm saying? If you creative, you're gonna stay creative. I think more than anything, your will to be a creative has to be greater than their will to make you working class or just make you a worker bee. If it ain't in your heart, bruh, there's plenty of people out here who cool with what they do, they happy with what they do and more power to them. We need people like that. It's something for everybody. But if it's in your heart to be a creative, just create and create from a space of just pure creation and purely just what's in your mind, putting it out into the physical. Cause that shit is really magic. And eventually the way that these things work is doors open up for you, opportunities open up. You know, being an art director, those like fine art skills, vocational skills are very important to like preserving culture and preserving the arts, which is very needed for any functional society. And as they try to do away with those things, we need more people that's gonna get a fine arts degree and go further because those are the people that preserve art and culture. If these people had it their way, they would do away with all relics of the past unless it serves whatever their agenda is presently. So just keep doing what you're doing. We appreciate the art. The art looks great. Trifecta Advice? Oh, shit. Dear Deontay Big Ice Cup. My name is blank. I'm 27 years old, originally from Mobile, Alabama. Oh shit. We back. Oh, we got a mobile legend in the building. Self Made Cool. Oh, shit, my bad. Muted over here. Night the music. Cause he was over there rummaging. That shit was in my ear. Loud as shit. We got Self Made cool in the building. Shout out to Self Made Cool from Mobile, Alabama. But I've lived in Gwinnett most of my life. I have a deep love for film, but I haven't had the resources or connection to bring my visions and ideas to life. I've written script, outlined concepts, created bits and pieces of my ideas, but I'm unsure of where to start. Do you have any advice when someone like me can begin building a path in film? Okay, pause that. I'm telling you right now, in order to go big, you got to start small. She has more. Right, but we're just going to address that. In order to go big, you got to start small. You got a cell phone now. You've seen people like this. How many content creators that came up off of vine, off Instagram, off of TikTok, just creating like what? Like in a real way, acting every part out. Look at Joshua Neal. And condolences to Joshua Neal and his family. He just lost his mother, but look at someone like Joshua Neal who was creating his own content on TikTok and then just starting a movie with Keke Palmer and sza, directed by Issa Rae. You have to do the work. You Know what I'm saying? You want the big budget stuff, you gotta start small budget. Tyler Perry, for example. Low budget, low budget. Plays, just start out with plays. Well, you can see the microphone on his forehead. But it was about getting it out. And after a while, all the imperfections fade away and people just focus on the plot and the story, people focus on the characters. But if you're not willing to do it in small bits, then you're not gonna get an opportunity to do the big one. You gotta put out the small bits. You gotta put it out low budget. Just put it out. Write a three minute script. That way you know every, every platform will allow you up to three minutes. Anything on Instagram over three minutes, they won't share to a new audience. TikTok, you can go as long as you want. YouTube shorts, three minutes, YouTube videos. Make a 24 hour film if you want to. It'll live on. It take forever to render and upload, but you can put it out there. But if you're not willing to start small, write a three minute script. Get the ideas out there. These small ideas become big concepts. Okay? So my advice is start putting out three minute films, three minute short films on Instagram, on TikTok, and look at the reaction and understand that these small bits are laying stones. Laying stones to the path that you trying to see yourself go down. But if you don't do it in small bits, you're not gonna get the big opportunity. You gotta work. You can have a vision all you want, but if you ain't doing nothing but dreaming about it, it's gonna stay a dream. Gotta chip away at that, motherfucker. Also wanted to ask something a little bit more personal. I have a complicated relationship with my father. I love and care about him, but I don't fuck with him as a person. He's been emotionally absent. Been emotionally absent. Denies one of his own kids, treats women terribly, including those who genuinely care about him. It's confusing because he says he loved me, but his action shows a deep disrespect for women. Can someone really love their daughter while harboring such toxic views towards women in general? No. Because his daughter doesn't become an exception. You can, you can love your daughter until she becomes a women and you hate women's. A woman woman, yeah. Come, come women, come women's. When they become women's and you hate women's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. These women folks, the women folks, yeah. Goddamn concubines and harlots. The thing is, you take them, take him for what? You already know who he is. And as much as you want to preserve, you are his responsibility, not the other way around. And oftentimes the parent, especially a toxic parent, will put the responsibility of maintaining the relationship off onto the child. It's not the child's responsibility to maintain a relationship. That is the. The whole of the responsibility of the parent. If your child cuts you off, you're a shit parent. You don't ever hear great parents talk about getting cut off. You ain't never heard it. And the responsibility lies on the person who created it. All right, so as bad as humans are, gotta blame God. You know what? You know what? Just for some perspective, that's all. What if God was one of us? Just a slob like one of us. Lastly. Damn, Damn. It's more. All right, wrap this up right here. We get us some of these voicemails, too. Lastly, my sister makes really good music, but she lacks the resources like me, connections to put forth. I love to support her journey. I sent over some of her work. Please keep in mind it's very low budget, just us doing what we can with what we have. All right, well, we can play this shit on New Music Monday. And she said one of her films, P.S. please don't say my name. We don't do that over here, sister. We'll check some of the music I'm playing on the Music Monday. All right, Big K, you ready? Some of these voicemails. Let's do it, baby.
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Self Made Cool
Hey, Deontay. Hey, Big Ice Cub Catch. I just wanted to say congratulations on you guys success. The best bottom. Excuse me. The best podcast in the world. I'm waking up early. I'm a night shift nurse, so y' all just give me some grace. Don't. Don't clam me too bad. And I've seen where y' all were talking about, you know, the millennials and how we're in this idea of individualism versus community. And I just wanted to expand more on it and ask y' all advice on this issue I've had with my cousin. So growing up, me and my cousin, it's always been something there, but I've never really understood what it was. And so recently, she came out to Dallas. We celebrated her birthday, but she brought a friend with her. Long story short, this friend was making threats behind my back. She was saying stuff, and I could kind of feel the energy was off. And so with that, I just cut my cousin off. Like, no contact. I was just like, you know, there's no men in that Like, I've been going through this shit since we were kids with her, and I just. I'm okay with never speaking to her again. I was like. Because once you have somebody making threats over nothing, like I had. I didn't say anything to this girl. We didn't have any issues. I welcomed them. We had a good time. Hell, I booked and paid for everything so that everybody can have a good time. But once we start making threats about taking me away from my kids over some dumb. Like, I was just like, yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not with it. So my question is, do I continue on the no contact with my cousin? Because I think she does want to make a man, knowing that she'll probably always have this, like, jealousy or this, you know, indifference towards me and get that community and just deal with it.
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Deontay Kyle
Or.
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Self Made Cool
Do I keep the no contact going because I'm one of those people, like, if it's me, it's you twice. It's hard. So, yeah, again, congratulations on the success. Best podcast in the world. Big Ice Cub Deontay. Y' all keep doing what y' all doing and love y'. All. All right, bye.
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Deontay Kyle
We love you too, sis. Fuck em. Yeah, Real shit, though. Okay, so I think that there's a misconception about what I was saying last week, because I was saying that, like, there is an overcorrection with just cutting your folks off. But I was talking about in instances of just like pure. Just dissonance, disagreement and things that can be hashed out. When we talking about like pure toxic shit, we talking about like envy and somebody like, they showing you that they hate you. No, fuck that. Fuck that. You gotta keep people like that out your life. They gonna hinder your progress. Facts. And I'm saying it goes for everybody. Even when it comes down to your parents. If your parents, due to their toxicity, are hindering your progress in life, are shooting down your dreams. If your parents are haters, you gotta get them about your life. You understand what I'm saying? Like, I'm not saying preserve shit. I ain't the nigga that's gonna say, well, at the end of the day, it's family. Nah, sometimes it's fuck family. Real shit. Sometimes it just gotta be fuck family. Cause familiarity breeds contempt. And sometimes them niggas be very contemptuous, very hateful, very envious of who you are. The reason why I said it in tandem with building online communities is because when you get into building these online communities, but you have cut off all the community that you have in your reality and your real walk in life, you're going to need a place to replace that so you not living in an echo chamber of individualism. So if you find a place where you have to disconnect with a cousin, disconnect with a sibling, disconnect with a parent, you going to have to find a space of recreating those relationship dynamics in your real life that can't just exist online. You know, we need mentorship. We need people we can call for sage advice and not just chat rooms or discourse where we could trauma dump on people. We need people that we can actually reach out and touch. And sometimes the relationships you build with your friends are stronger than the bonds you have with even your own siblings. Okay? So, yeah, somebody like that, toxic, making threats, talking about taking care of your. Taking your kids away.
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Self Made Cool
Her.
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Deontay Kyle
Them. All right, let's get one more, and then we can get up out of here. Y' all was sending these four and five minute shits, man. Telling you, man, I ain't gonna listen to it. God damn. Figure out what you want to say and say it and wrap it. The up. Sum it up. Sum that shit up. Minute and 30 minute. We need a minute. We need a hot 90 seconds. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's why I look. I look at two minutes as the max. Yeah.
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Self Made Cool
Mr. Deontay Caillou. Oh, my gosh. And big ice cup ready to knock a out whenever it's available.
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Deontay Kyle
Okay.
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Self Made Cool
I love that for y'. All. I just wanted to call in because I think y' all are so dope. I love what you guys are doing, and I love the perspective. I love that y' all root for black women and for black men, and you're really pumping out the knowledge for real. I just wanted to speak on something that really resonated with me. You had mentioned about coming to terms with the fact that you were going to have to be okay with being a truck driver. Right. And once you came to that realization and you were okay with that, things started to happen for you, doors started to open for you. And that really resonated with me because I, too, went through that experience. I'm a singer, so I'm always doing stuff. I'm always trying to do stuff, at least. And nothing was really panning out for me. And I feel like when I finally accepted, like, maybe this just isn't for me, maybe I need to focus on something else or just focus on what I can focus on at the moment. That's literally when I sat in that. That's literally when things started to shift for me. And I just really want to bring that to a lot of people's attention. Like, you're really out here speaking truth, like, really allowing black people a safe space to really process their emotions, maybe process things that they don't understand. It's just a very dope experience. I tell everybody about y' all because it's so enlightening, like, and not only that y' all are recognizable to the culture, so people listen. And I think that's what the dopest thing about it is. So I just wanted to submit and shout out love to y' all because I think y' all are amazing human beings. And more success and more booking booked and busy. You hear? You hear me? I just love that for y'. All. I really do. And love and light to all yalls families and peace and blessings.
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Deontay Kyle
Thank you, sister. If you in Philadelphia right now, that's how we ending the show. If you in Philadelphia right now, go to the Boston sports studio and take away all the mics and bring them down here to Moore, Georgia, where we give niggas real million dollars worth of game, nigga. Nah. Thank you, sis. This is the thing. Submitting. Submitting is not easy, right? But you know, like they say, like, you know, you got to be appreciative of what you got before you get mo. You got to show God you can do this. Is what we just talked about. We just talked about it. If you're not going to do it in small instances, if you're waiting on the big budget film to come, just present itself to you. Oh, Lionsgate, the Weinstein brothers, they just. Oh, I heard you was a great filmmaker here. Let's give you $50 million. No, no, no, no, no, no. You got to take the talents and you got to take the things that you got and work with what you got. You hate your job, but sometimes you gotta submit. This where I'm at. This where I'm at. If you're not gonna show gratitude for what you already got, why would I give you more? I don't. You know, my kids, they don't. They know. They know how I get down. My son was in that bitch in a bed. I could have been bought a nigga a new bed a year ago. But I told him when I bought his new bed, I said, if you break this motherfucker like you broke the last one, you gonna be sleeping on the flow. Guess what he did for a year. Slept on that goddamn flow. You think that new bed broke? Absolutely not. Because if you're not gonna take care of what you got, if you're just running through like it don't mean nothing, like it don't have no value, and you're treating the things that you got like. Like they worthless, then what you gonna do when I give you a lot? I give you $10,000, you blow it in a day, I'm damn sure not giving you a million. I mean, God damn, you finna make some folks rich around this bitch? Not even yourself. Teach a man to fish. But the thing is, sometimes, you know, if a motherfucker teach you how to fish, then you want them to buy the rods for you too. You want them to go find bait. No, you gotta have some initiative. Motherfucker done taught you how to fish. It's up to you to go get the rods. It's up to you. Understand? Wet bait. Go for what? Fish. You just gonna sit here and complain like, damn motherfucker taught me how to fish. He ain't gimme no fishing rod. Like, damn, he taught you the most important skill. How to catch the motherfucker. You can feed yourself. Damn. You want motherfucker to feed you too? Yeah. It's about how you do when you got a little. Then you could be trusted with a lot. So I appreciate you. I appreciate you reaching out. What you do when you in the shadows, Determine how you gonna act when you get in that light. Like they say, money don't. Money don't change you. Would just make you more of what you already is. Hope that money don't change you. Gunner used to have some little. Didn't he gonna talking about he want an AI artist gonna quit while you ahead. All right, we. We let you slide with the snitching allegations, all right? Because we know that there wasn't technically snitching. That was the Alfred plea. Niggas don't know about the law because y' all ain't real criminals, right? Huh? Huh? You don't know about that? Nolo contendre like me don't know play a couple of no lows. You talking about I ain't guilty? I ain't not guilty in the middle of it. Hopefully. Hopefully I can get myself off this. You don't know nothing about no. No little contender. So now you're just gonna call everything snitching? Because your whole identity and everything you know about the streets comes from that cell phone. So you don't know about the Alfred plea. And that man really didn't snitch. On nobody. Nah, but stop that AI. Stop. But we. AI, you. You don't think I can make you mean with the chat GPT huh? Spin episode 73 we got the brother self made cool what's up to the people. Oh my God. So sick of rappers. What's happening? What's happening? What's that? What's good? I'm gonna do my new music Monday. Cause I got videos and new music coming. I got music coming. Yeah. Sample tape ladies love cool I'm from Mobile, Alabama I got braids to the back like Jim Jones Cold sweats from Bad dream nightmares I hope the fans don't grab the tank like yours Got the jimmies in the motherfucker to my bang bang bang to my hooligan what they call they call me ricochety rap Because I quickest play Maddox and my cricket savage this that nine double lun triple Whoa, whoa, whoa. If you're scared, get your gun gun get your gun have fun, let's have fun Jimmy, you should know yeah, it's you. I said it's you. All right, let's wrap it up, son if it's crime let's have fun, let's have fun. Let's have fun. It's episode 73 all right, let's cancel new music Monday. Just play. I'll just play. I'll just. Just playing. I just had to show you what the power is. Get this up out of here. What career? It's a million dollars worth of game. I ain't giving a. You are a gilly. I can't let a take my position N I can take my spot. Can't let you take my spot. This has been episode 73. I am your host, Deontay Cabo. Who's behind the camera? The coolest co host in the world. Big ice cub cat. What did I miss?