Episode 78 - Impact vs Influence

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast: Episode 78 - "Impact vs Influence"

Host: Deante’ Kyle
Co-Host: Big Ice Cup Cat
Release Date: July 29, 2025

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Introduction

In Episode 78 of the Grits and Eggs Podcast, host Deante’ Kyle and co-host Big Ice Cup Cat engage in a candid and unfiltered discussion exploring the themes of impact versus influence within the Black community and broader pop culture. The episode delves into topics ranging from personal experiences in the entertainment industry to societal issues affecting Black wealth and community dynamics.

Behind the Scenes: Hollywood Hustles

[01:00] Deante’ Kyle opens the episode by reminiscing about a recent trip back to Georgia from California. He shares experiences from their time spent at a studio in Burbank, emphasizing the intense work involved in creating content under tight deadlines.

Deante’ Kyle (01:28): "We spent the whole weekend trying to get stuff done, working sun up to sundown at the studio. It was a real Hollywood experience."

The hosts discuss the possibility of producing a pilot for their show, contemplating whether to film in Atlanta or Los Angeles. They express a desire to maintain authenticity by staying true to their roots in Georgia.

Technical Challenges and Community Engagement

[04:20] Deante’ Kyle addresses recent technical issues with the podcast's production, including a corrupted file from the last recording. He reassures listeners about upcoming live sessions on Patreon, where they plan to engage directly with their audience through call-ins and discussions.

Deante’ Kyle (04:22): "We're rolling out the Les Music Club, so we need to stay on top of that."

The conversation shifts to merchandise and promotions, highlighting new items available on their website and upcoming events like the Atlanta Comic Con.

The Divide Within the Black Community

[18:55] A significant portion of the episode focuses on the internal divisions within the Black community, particularly between those with historical wealth and networking advantages and those who have risen from poverty. Deante’ Kyle critiques the elitism of established Black families and organizations, advocating for unity and mutual support.

Deante’ Kyle (19:12): "We can't keep having this conversation about, 'Oh, I didn’t grow up in the hood,' so it’s 'White enough' if I articulate my words properly."

He emphasizes the importance of recognizing diverse experiences within Blackness and the need to move beyond a monolithic view of the community.

Impact vs Influence in Pop Culture

[20:05] The hosts transition to discussing impact versus influence, using examples from the music industry. They highlight how certain figures have had lasting impacts that transcend their immediate influence, shaping cultural narratives and community perceptions.

Deante’ Kyle (21:01): "Ralph Lauren has always had these collaborations and very tasteful guy as far as we can see. But they didn't need the hood to get popping."

They differentiate between mere influence, often tied to consumerism and capitalistic agendas, and genuine impact that fosters meaningful change and cultural shifts.

Critique of Modern Influencers and Media

[33:12] Deante’ Kyle critiques modern influencers, particularly focusing on their reliance on digital personas and the disparity between their online image and real-life interactions. He draws parallels with the MTV Cribs era, questioning the authenticity of showcasing wealth without substantive impact.

Deante’ Kyle (35:04): "The impact that niggas have with real money is like poisoning your water supply."

He underscores the difference between influencers who merely promote consumerism and those who leave a tangible impact on society.

Voicemails and Community Feedback

The episode features several voicemails from listeners, including heartfelt messages and personal dilemmas. Notably, a listener named Tyler shares his experiences balancing personal relationships and financial struggles, seeking advice on maintaining friendships while pursuing individual goals.

Tyler (56:28): "I'm proud of Y’all, man, especially you. Deontay, like, bro, like, from going from watching you in the truck to seeing you leading mind changes in the community."

Deante’ Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat respond empathetically, offering guidance on honesty and integrity in personal relationships.

Addressing Controversial Figures

[78:04] The hosts discuss controversial personalities like Dr. Umar, expressing skepticism about his legitimacy and fundraising methods. They caution listeners about individuals who may exploit spirituality and community trust for personal gain.

Deante’ Kyle (80:10): "It's like he begging for money... this is why people don’t like, when people say, like, grand rising and K."

They advocate for vigilance and critical thinking when engaging with public figures advocating for community support.

Conclusion

[84:33] As the episode wraps up, Deante’ Kyle reaffirms the podcast's commitment to fostering meaningful discussions that prioritize impact over mere influence. The hosts encourage listeners to stay engaged through their Patreon and social media platforms, emphasizing the importance of community and authentic dialogue.

Deante’ Kyle (84:43): "Episode 78. We'll see how next week, man."

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Notable Quotes

• Deante’ Kyle (01:28): "We spent the whole weekend trying to get stuff done, working sun up to sundown at the studio. It was a real Hollywood experience."

• Deante’ Kyle (19:12): "We can't keep having this conversation about, 'Oh, I didn’t grow up in the hood,' so it’s 'White enough' if I articulate my words properly."

• Tyler (56:28): "I'm proud of Y’all, man, especially you. Deontay, like, bro, like, from going from watching you in the truck to seeing you leading mind changes in the community."

Final Thoughts

Grits and Eggs Podcast Episode 78 offers a deep dive into the complexities of impact versus influence, especially within the Black community. Through personal anecdotes, critical analysis of pop culture, and interactive listener segments, Deante’ Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat provide listeners with thought-provoking insights aimed at fostering unity and meaningful change.

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Transcript

[Deontay]

Yeah woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty south with a dirty mouth my knee orbit miss things things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my no rest and she gorgeous as I doubt my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead Tell them we gonna get this money pockets morbid remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't gotta like a regardless baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me we like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee Flick your cigarette and let a vent yeah, we back oh we back Gris and eggs podcast episode 788 I'm your host Deontay Ky who's.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Behind the camera, the coolest co host in the world.

[Deontay]

Big ice cupcat we are back we we we we we cam a only today.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Well that's okay.

[Deontay]

Lost us a couple things in travel. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

All the way from California.

[Deontay]

Goddamn backing back we back to Georgia, spent the whole weekend. Yeah, we tried to get some things done while we was out there, but, man, bruh, they had us busy as hell at that studio.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

We was working.

[Deontay]

We was at the studio, sun up to sundown. For real. For real. Literally. Literally real Hollywood experience.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Passed by. Woo. We was passing by every day the wb. Every day. Passing by the wb, nigga. We was out there in Burbank really. Really being actors.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Really at the studio.

[Deontay]

Yeah, man, I had to put on.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

My director hat that you did was acting.

[Deontay]

Was acting, was directing, creating something new for y' all that will. Will, you know, give us less than 60 days.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, they enjoy that.

[Deontay]

It's a lot of editing got to be done, but.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hollywood editing.

[Deontay]

Yeah, Hollywood. Yeah, a lot of Hollywood editing has to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, when we left what we did, they. They was like, that's a pilot. That is a pilot pilot, boys.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That could be something.

[Deontay]

They said this with the in the club when that money be done.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

But just think about that, though. A pilot for that.

[Deontay]

That being a pilot.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. And it. What if it's picked up?

[Deontay]

I'm keeping it a bean. I'm gonna keep it a bean. I'm gonna keep it a being. All right, so we could very well do that in Atlanta.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

We could.

[Deontay]

I would love to just be in LA doing that. That was LA's lit.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

But to go to LA.

[Deontay]

Let's stay for like a month.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Just stay for a minute. Just record.

[Deontay]

Yeah, damn.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

We could do that, bro.

[Deontay]

We just got to get that check them checks and balances right.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's true.

[Deontay]

That is true. Well, this is what like that come with though? Not. I hate to keep y' all out the loop, but we got to. Yeah, but the like that come with like budget signing bonus.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

You know what I'm saying? Contract X, Y and Z this long.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Deontay]

Boom. And then we'll just. Just post up.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Just post up.

[Deontay]

Nah, but we have to do it in Atlanta. There's plenty of places in Atlanta.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

There's plenty of places to do it in a. Just being in la.

[Deontay]

That shit is so lit, nigga. Hold on. Soon as I touch down in Hartsville, Jackson, we back.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

We back, man.

[Deontay]

We back. We back to business. It's Good to be back. 657234 eggs. That's 657-234-3447. Follow your call ins. You can leave voicemails. We got a couple voicemails today. You can also utilize that whenever we go live on the patreon, which we will be doing tomorrow. It'll be Monday by the time y' all see this, but. And we do live call ins and we answer your questions, concerns, we bring up topics and we see what y' all like to. What y' all opinion is on that. Deontayeontaykyle.com for all email music submissions. New music Monday has been. It's been spotty.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It has.

[Deontay]

It's been spotty.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Technical issues.

[Deontay]

A lot of technical issues. But also. Yeah, like the last episode we recorded, the file got corrupted. We're gonna have to redo it. Sorry. Cool. You know what I'm saying? Sorry. We're gonna record one today, put out tomorrow. But we. We also got the Les Music Club that we rolling out, so we gotta get on top of that.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, we do.

[Deontay]

Deontayeontaykyle.com Again for emails and music and advice submissions. We got a couple of those today. Some juicy shit. Ooh. Hey, look, you know, we all for helping the community, but every now and then we like some mess.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah. We like to get a little ignorant in the community.

[Deontay]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We like to get a little ignorant. You know what I'm saying? We was asking nigga what was in your wallet last week. They loved that. They loved it. What's in your wallet? Yeah, deontay kyle.com for all the merch. We have merch that's going to be on clearance this week and it's all listed on the website. But also we rolling out some New merch for the 99 and 2000. I'm just tell you that just so you can know what it's going to look like Deontay cal across platforms. Make sure you follow Grits and Eggs podcast on Instagram.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Big Ice Cub Cat.

[Deontay]

Big Ice Cub cat. Everywhere, baby, everywhere. And the Grits and Eggs podcast on patreon ain't never $8.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

$8.

[Deontay]

Ain't never $8. We gotta tighten up on that Patreon too. I be posting like mad like articles and shit like that. But we got one more, we own one more video and one more live stream for the month over. And then, you know, I mean, we be giving them free early access to all this different shit. Unfortunately, we had to cancel the field day due to some like, conditions and complications. Like niggas ain't had a medical staff out there. It's gonna be August 2nd, it's gonna be hot as fuck. And I don't want nobody passing out, I don't want nobody baby passing out without us doing, taking the proper channels to do that. So we did issue refunds and whatever's left in that pot, we are gonna donate to the schools, to the school teachers for their supply list. So shout out to all the cousins that did donate and shout out to the, you know, people that were willing to come out and Show Love. AMBC Awards Mixer on the 2nd BIA Awards. Nominations are still open. Make sure you're voting. Vote Grizzly Next podcast. Best podcast of the year for the bias. What else we got? Stephen Dingle, my boy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

District 11, Atlanta.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He ready.

[Deontay]

He ready.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

And he's the guy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He is the man.

[Deontay]

We're gonna have him on here a little closer to election season. Coffee Black.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Shout out to Coffee Black.

[Deontay]

It's the family reunion. Who we introducing? Who we introducing? Coffee Black. Shop. Coffee Black. Yeah, go get some black ass coffee, man. Big Cat. What's up, man?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Hey, man, I was just, you know, getting back in order from last week. Had a good time.

[Deontay]

Had a great time.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Had a great time. Big Cat was in his acting bag.

[Deontay]

The original man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

The original man was in his acting bag. They gonna really enjoy it. They gonna really enjoy what we got in store for him, man.

[Deontay]

Yeah, y' all gonna love that shit. I'm telling you. I know y' all gonna love it. Cause we love doing it. Like we love creating. Was a really good time. You know, I'm very grateful for the opportunity. Had niggas up in the three million dollar mansion on In Hills.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

In Hills.

[Deontay]

Couldn't believe we was way up there. God damn.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It got cold at night, too.

[Deontay]

My. Oh, God.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

In July. I was like, what the.

[Deontay]

Yeah, that's how you realize you in the desert. Temperature dropped drastically. I was always wondering, like, why do California dress like that? Yeah, they be dressing like it's hot and it's cold. Because it is.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Cuz it is. Literally you can wear anything in California.

[Deontay]

You wear anything. It's hot and it's cold. But neither too much where it. You know what I'm saying? It's going to bother you too.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

Shit was elite, though. We do have to run a promotion. Cause we are gonna be in Virginia at the Atlanta Comic Con. And that's gonna play right now on 55th. We back. We saw no gangbanger while we was out there, nigga. We was up there spoiled as a motherfucker. We was so far away from anything potentially dangerous. Loved that for us.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, it was on 55th.

[Deontay]

No, was nowhere near 55th. Nowhere near 55th. Who's that? There was sales. Service sucks. Yeah. Bad sales, bad cell service. We did record Patreon while we was up there. It is chaotic. It is all over the place. We was drinking tequila heavy, but the backdrop was amazing.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

The backdrop is crazy.

[Deontay]

I mean, crazy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I mean, God damn. Every day we seen it, we was.

[Deontay]

Like, man, God damn, this is what we waking up to. Yeah. Every day, man. Shit was lit in the heels.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Real heels.

[Deontay]

Shout out to Bradley.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, my God.

[Deontay]

Hey, look, man. All right, we can't do full. I can't do a Full review of Alfredo 2 just because when it did drop, we was having a party. Yeah. We did throw like a little shindig. We did to take us on out. And then on top of that shit, niggas had to get on that plane. I had to do the most to get in that motherfucker. I almost. I almost missed the motherfucker gonna text.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Me, grab my bags in Atlanta.

[Deontay]

I said, huh? Almost missed that motherfucker, man. I was shook. But either way, we'll do a full review of the Freddie Gibbs album next week from. I've listened to it since. That shit hard. Really ain't no skips on that motherfucker. But anytime Freddie and the Alchemist get together, ain't no skips. Alfredo, too. We need to talk about something, man.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Deontay]

I'm getting up in age. I'm 35. Let Slim thug be a cautionary tale.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

All right? Let me get back on track. So I'm sorry. Let me get right right. All right.

[Deontay]

You know where I was going.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, I know he was going with that, but.

[Deontay]

All right, let's go. Don't be an old weird nigga. Facts just don't do that. Okay, here's the thing. It's just like anything else in life. You're gonna have a prime. There's gonna be a prime time for you to get them draws. Once that prime is over, I mean, it's almost like they can smell it on you. You ain't got it no more. And it ain't the looks, it ain't the money. It's you, nigga. It's you. They don't want to be in the Rolls Royce with old weird nigga. Fuck that Rolls Royce. Dre and Lex had you on the show, Poor minds. What you up there, y'?

[Tyler]

All?

[Deontay]

Y' all don't want me, sir. Granddad, it's AARP time. Yeah, it's time, brother.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It's time.

[Deontay]

It's time to start thinking about retirement. Every time Meg thee stallion move a muscle, he owner. She's 20 years younger than you, dawg. Yeah, tighten up. Tighten that up. You're embarrassing your kids. Yeah, that's my dad. Like, damn. What if Meg and your daughter actually had, like, a. Like, got along at one point? Now she got a severed relationship. Your dad keep being weird, nigga. Yeah, Slim Thug, man. First of all, this. Oh, oh, ooh. This is something I want to talk about. I want to have a conversation about this. And Slim Thug is a perfect example of this. Once you are past the prime of your career and what. Tipping off of foes. Yeah, push up on it with Beyonce. Can we think of anything else Slim Thug wise?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I mean, Slim Thug is nice. He's nice. He's got some hits for Texas. I mean, he's nice.

[Deontay]

He's good in Texas.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He's good in Texas.

[Deontay]

Texas is his own country. So I just.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

So, okay, I'mma say this. This is what the point that I'm getting at.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

What you getting at?

[Deontay]

Once you approach 50 and your name is attached to your career, it's time to start pulling out that government. Yeah, it's time to go by the government name. Look. What? Lil Bow Wow. Did he drop that? Shad Moss.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's who he is.

[Deontay]

Yes, that's who I am.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He can't be Lil Bow Wow forever.

[Deontay]

He can't be Lil Bow Wow. You can't be Slim thug. And you're 50. This is why nobody wants you.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Cut a damn beard.

[Deontay]

Yeah, the beard is crazy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Beard is nasty work.

[Deontay]

I mean, it could do some trimming, like, you know what I'm saying? You know what I say? If he was to throw on a cowboy hat, would really pull that look together.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

This guy getting his Texas bag.

[Deontay]

Yeah, yeah, he got to go all the way Texas with a beard. Like, he got to get 50. Yeah, Texas. Texas cowboy hat, nice tight jeans.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I mean, I'm going say it like this. Some old have no problem, but he's not one of them.

[Deontay]

You're not one of them. That's the thing. That's the issue. Some see, the old niggas that have no problems aren't uploading videos like, Bitter as hell. No, bro, she don't want you. It's fine.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Them niggas in the gym, they getting it in, bruh.

[Deontay]

Listen, you gonna have to go to 3rd Ward if you want a young thing. Find you something. 30 years old over there.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, he can go 35.

[Deontay]

He can.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

How old is he?

[Deontay]

I think that nigga like, 50, bro. Hold on, let me see.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, he can go 35.

[Deontay]

He's some good 35. Texas Dunstan, bruh. So many. 44. He's. Oh, he's 44. Okay.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He's not that old. He's not that old.

[Deontay]

He acting old.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He acting old. Yeah, he's acting old.

[Deontay]

He acting washed.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, he.

[Deontay]

You, you, you, and you are. He's washed. But the thing is. Yeah, you are washed fine. You're obviously still getting money. That's great. Just getting money. Find you a nice woman and settle down. Yeah, okay. The. The young bad. The young hotties. They. They don't want you. Nah. You made Lex and. And. And Andrea uncomfortable for an hour and a half.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

The young hotties was even born when he was tipping on four foes.

[Deontay]

They don't even know what that means.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

We was in high school.

[Deontay]

This is my things, Mr. Thug. We gotta act your age, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Your name is Slim Thug. This ain't no thug.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It's very creepy.

[Deontay]

You're a creepy man. You being a creep. You being a weirdo.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You're 69. It doesn't help.

[Deontay]

Dare I say. I. I won't bring up Shaquille.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

What Shaq do?

[Deontay]

I'm just saying. Shaq like the young, too.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, but Shaq ain't, like, loud with it, though.

[Deontay]

Shaq just show up with his feet out.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, feet out. Four pockets full.

[Deontay]

Full pocket full. He gonna pay for it. Nah. Shout out to Papa John's Slim Thug, bro. You just really gotta, like. I don't know. You can't stop niggas from being weird. Yeah, you can, but you making yourself look bad. And I feel like all your Texas brethren need to goddamn gather around you and call you out. Or at least just like be like, let it go.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Cause everybody else is married and happy, right?

[Deontay]

It's getting weird, my nigga. You gonna have to find somebody to settle down with. Might be your age, 44. And that's okay. I'm sure. It's a cold 40 year old in Texas right now. My n great career.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It's a cold 40 year old in Houston, Texas.

[Deontay]

It's a cold one. It's a cold one.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It's some tings in Texas.

[Deontay]

Yeah. Only thing is, the women his age probably married.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He can't find nothing.

[Deontay]

He been playing well, but he also playing the Internet games and shit. Yeah, man, you gonna get got like that, dog. Unless you just wanted just a life of tricking, then maybe that's what it is. Nah, he want to make the stallion back.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He can't get Meg, bro.

[Deontay]

He can't have Meg, bro. Clay got her.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, Clay shoot him down.

[Deontay]

One of.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

The half of the Splash brothers.

[Deontay]

Brother splashing.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He definitely splashes already.

[Deontay]

Shorty gave him $300,000 watch. Then they get slim thumbs. I would never let a woman. But you need to let a woman do something. Yeah, you need something.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Something needs to be done for you. Because the way you're acting, sir, you.

[Deontay]

Need to be catered to, my brother. Yeah, something's wrong. And then Clay Thompson, she's such a nice woman, said, look at Clay. Yeah, go Clay. Clay.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Upstanding citizen.

[Deontay]

Good, good young man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Good young man.

[Deontay]

Son.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Full head of hair.

[Deontay]

Clay gonna be wearing a durag in two weeks.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He already wear a durag, but it'd be different. He had to do rag on.

[Deontay]

You did what I'm saying now, this gonna be velvet. He ain't gonna. He ain't gonna tie it up. It ain't just gonna be for bed. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He just gonna have them.

[Deontay]

And they're gonna be warming up with that. Like LeBron.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Make the stand. You gotta make the difference.

[Deontay]

She gonna take nigga third. Wood turn up, Clay gonna have a grill gonna be doing this.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. He ain't from Texas.

[Deontay]

Ah, man, Slip Thug man. I would never, bruh. Trust me, bro. And I'm gonna keep it real with you. Between me and you, if any one of either one of us ever start showing signs.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Of what?

[Deontay]

Slim thugness?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, my God. God.

[Deontay]

Nah, they gotta have an intervention.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, but it's like, you know, we be around women a Lot. And they be like, yo, y' all some really cool.

[Deontay]

Yeah. Cuz it ain't always about.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

We just be chilling, chilling, laughing, joking.

[Deontay]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Having a good time.

[Deontay]

Make sure you get home safe.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Make sure you get home safe.

[Deontay]

That's it. I mean, no worries. When you're. When you're around the grits and eggs crew, no worries.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No slim thugs.

[Deontay]

No slim thugs around here. You gonna eat. You go about your business.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

About your business.

[Deontay]

You choose to stay, that's on you. It's got to be a choice.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Got to be a choice.

[Deontay]

It's got to be consensual. It's a lot of uproar right now. I, I want to talk about this and I want to provide just a wee bit of nuance to this situation. So you've seen the Polo Oak Bluffs collection?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

Kind of highlighting like old black money, black wealth, Jack and Jills of the world. And I don't think the conversation is being had in the right way, which it never is. It's always a us versus them mentality. It's always, you know, poor people. We make shit lit in the hood and that translates to some type of national influence. We could say this about young DRO with polo, but young dro, there's levels to that polo shit, all right? And there always has been. The hood didn't get Ralph Lauren popping. He was popping already.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, he was already popping.

[Deontay]

He's been popping since the 80s. There was a whole movement in New York, the low life movement of niggas boosting polo.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

And like rocking it on the streets. The thing is, is like we, you know, we discovered something that may have been out of our price range or tax bracket at the time. And we got it lit and we made it a thing amongst our community that was already a thing amongst other communities. And I think that we need to have the conversation about this right now. We can't keep having this conversation about, oh, I didn't grow up in the hood, so, you know. Or you would call me white if I articulate my words properly and all these things. But now they're Polo and Oak Bluffs. Wooty woo woo. Something that's always been in our circles, in our tax bracket, and it has been. Polo is a very like upper crust social circle thing. Right. Because it's technically boating and golf clothes. Niggas in the hood ain't boating or golfing.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No.

[Deontay]

You dig what I'm saying? So we wear it strictly for fashion and they have worn it for its intended purpose. But Ralph Lauren has always had these collaborations and you know, very tasteful guy as far as we can see. But they didn't need the hood to get popping. But they did get popping in the hood. And that did lend to some sort of like visibility within our community. But I think here's the thing. This doesn't need to continue to be like a line split between class, you know what I'm saying? We can't keep calling people out for not having to grow up in survival mode when we did. Those are symptoms of greater issues. Right. Because there would be a lot more of us in the Oak Bluffs, in the Martha's Vineyards, in the Jack and Jills had our communities not been destroyed.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Facts.

[Deontay]

So we have to understand we wouldn't have been, they wouldn't have been able to affect us with the war on drugs had they not destroyed our neighborhoods first. And of course there's always gonna be exceptions to every rule. So the people, the Oak Bluffs blacks is how they like viewing it. But the black people who have been and have had access to wealth and networking and connections and been a part of that top 1% financially, especially amongst the black community here in America, where you can probably directly tie their lineage back to some of these prominent black spaces in these black neighborhoods, you can also tie them to the D9, you know what I mean? And honestly, as much as I got damn criticize these folks just on the strength of this better than mentality, I would like to encourage everybody to just have some open arms for one another because I'm pretty sure that the people that are in those they created Jack and Jill because they understood that they're not gonna be able to assimilate to whiteness especially in the time being, they're not gonna be accepted and they was gonna be subjected to an extreme amount of racism. So with their money they created organizations for themselves. But there is an attitude, there is a mentality towards people who aren't so privileged and didn't get to grow up and go into those programs or, or into those social settings. And that attitude is carried out both ways. There's a black card revocation that go on in lower income communities where if you ain't grow up over here, then you not truly black enough. And then there's a looking down upon about people that didn't grow up with a certain level of like, what am I trying to say? Prosperity didn't grow up as prosperous and things like that. There needs to be a conversation to understand that like we're not against each other and we shouldn't be against each other. As a matter of fact, as people come up and as we get further and further away from the war on drugs, there are going to be a lot more people that have grown up in poverty but are ascending class. And they're gonna run into these people that have old money and they always had money, and they should be welcomed in with open arms. And if there is anything that could be done, it can be an exchange of traits, so to speak. Like, I shouldn't have to fully assimilate into whatever it is that you grew up on. And you're definitely not gonna assimilate to what I grew up on. But there can be some exchange of culture and experience that can strengthen both, you know what I'm saying? Because naturally, the person, somebody like a Jay Z is not gonna have the same experience as Blue Ivy, but he's putting her in position to have a different experience. When we was at the Tyler show, we seen Willow Smith in there, right? And she doesn't have the same experience that Jada and Will had and nor were her kids. But she's fast tracked into like these rooms and these networks where she's gonna have access to certain things. I don't think that. And I think that the Smith kids are like a great example of like publicly what black kids look like when they don't grow up in survival mode. Yeah, we call them niggas weird. We call them all these different things, but they have different experiences, right? But they're still black. We can't, we can't get to this place where like we'll say blackness is not a monolith, but then also like ostracize black people if they don't grow up in the struggle. The struggle is the thing that connected us. A lot of us. That struggle was not self imposed. It wasn't our idea to flood our neighborhoods with crack. It also wasn't our idea to burn down all of our prominent black neighborhoods. A lot more of us would be experiencing the D9, the jack and Jill, the Oak Bluff experience, had they not destroyed our communities. So I think that we need to stop looking at a way to like every situation that happens, we try to find a way to be divisive about it amongst one another. Are we not all black just because we don't all have the same experience? We're still all black and we don't have the same present experience. But rewind, rewind. Just go back 150 years. Ain't no, ain't no Oak Bluff blacks Then it's just all niggas. A lot of decisions were made. A lot of things happened since then. Since the abolishment of slavery and black people went all over this country. Great migration. We've all had different experiences. We all speak in different accents. And poverty is a very. Like, poverty is a glue, you know what I'm saying? Because we all digest the same products here. So the thing that's cheap here is cheap in California. The TV that we watch here, they're watching in California. We're going to have some same. We're going to have some cultural overlaps, we're gonna have some dietary overlaps, we're gonna have some religious overlaps that all aid in our experience as black people. That doesn't mean that that's the only experience. Even if it's the more common one. It's not the only one. And we can't box black people in like that. Now, me personally, I just don't have any. Like, I don't have a dog in a fight. I think it's beautiful to highlight black wealth and these families that have traditions of like, maintain money. And I know what our stances is on capitalism and black capitalism, things like that, but it's still beautiful. The people in the ads were beautiful. The way that they live their lives is beautiful. And I think that given the opportunity, all of us would aspire to put our kids in positions where they can live a life of like, opulence and networking and connections and having a faster track to success through not only like, wealth but nepotism and things like that. I mean, that is the goal. You don't want your kids to work as hard as you did. If my child comes up and he wants to be in media, I would hope that I've built enough connections to be able to put him in a position where he's successful in media. And if he fails, it's on his own accord, but it's not out of a lack of access. And I think that that's all that is. That just shows that this is generational access to wealth, to connections, not only in finance, but in education. And, you know, it's not a better than thing, right? It's okay. Because when we celebrate the hood, nobody, you know, I would hope that nobody sits back and be like, well, why they celebrating them? And I'm sure people do, but when they're celebrating Old Bluffs, we shouldn't be like, well, why they celebrating them? Just let them have a moment. You know what I'm saying? It's important for us to see every side of us in this country and that. That black money is a often quiet, quiet sector of our community. It's very quiet. It's not something that's showcased. Black luxury is not showcased in this country because they don't really want you to know it exists. And I think the thing is, it's all a part of the experience. And if we don't want to be a monolith, then we have to stop rejecting things when they aren't monolithic. So shout out to all the people involved. I mean, it looked amazing. It looked very good. I fuck with it. If you're not familiar with, like, you know, Polo and, you know, the purple labels and all these different things that he has, you can go look at HR Clothiers. You remember that the HR Renee, they had that shit on. We was having that shit on when they sent it to us. You know what I'm saying? But they sell similar things that are like, a little bit more like dandy, you know, black dandyism, prep type vibes. A lot of HBCU influence. Is HR clothiers or. Yeah, I think it's clothiers. I'll tag. We'll tag them, whatever. But it leads me into this idea about impact versus influence. And what is the influence that the black community often has on pop culture? When we talk about somebody like Young dro, do we consider that impact or does it consider influence now, in that case, where we're still talking about it 20 years later? It's definitely just impactful. It may be influential at the time, but a lot of people have a lot of influence that have no impact whatsoever. And then we have people that come along, they have such an impact that naturally creates an influence. I think what we're doing over here is less influence and more impact. Right. And. And maybe by proxy that it influences different things like, you know, research and, you know, nuance and critical thinking and just shifting the perspective. But Ralph. Ralph Lauren is a place of impact. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, his brand has been impactful and of course it has an influence. But some people solely have influence. And I was watching this movie, the Opus movie. It's made by a 24 and shit. And basically it's just about this musician who had like, all of this. Like he was supposedly just up there with Michael Jackson, you know, as a fictional character, whatever. I don't know what events they based that off of. I would probably have to do some more research. I just watched it and thought about it, but they brought all these different people, people they brought people from. They brought this influencer, they brought these journalists, and then they brought these paparazzi people and then they bought like some old, you know, like musicians that were connected to him at this time. Whole time he got like this compound out there in Utah and n live like four miles away from, four hours away from like the main road.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Jesus Christ.

[Deontay]

Crazy, crazy, crazy. So, yeah, and the thing, the interesting thing to me was like, when they got there, they took the phones and the influencer was like lost. You could tell she didn't know what to do even when it came to like, it took her a few days to even get acclimated to like interacting with people in a real way because her whole life is like on her phone. And I think about that in conjunction to like how we operate with people today, where you meet somebody who has such a, like, bubbly personality and they're so like upbeat and you know, they appear to be extremely cool and such a vibe online. And then you meet them in person and they're extremely standoffish and like kind of like reclusive and things like that. And one could say that it's like stuck up, right? Like they're, they're, they, they full of themselves or anything like that. But I think the reality is we don't realize like all of their interaction is happening through these phones. And maybe they don't know how to act when they're in person with people.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No, that's true.

[Deontay]

And furthermore, maybe they've always struggled with interacting with people in person, interpersonally and didn't really find theyself until they had some type of influence online.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

And so I just think about this a lot. Like when you get enough and you on your phones, do you want to leave an impact or do you just want to influence? And oftentimes the influence is always going to be towards consumption and kind of furthering the agenda of these ad agencies and these advertisers and this capitalistic society, like, has relied on influence for a long time from celebrities. This is where we get. Now you remember these shows that we used to watch.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Talking about growing up?

[Deontay]

MTV Cribs.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Being. Being out there and seeing like, not only like how expensive those homes are, but like where they are and how they're like constructed. They're constructed to only have enough for the person that owns it.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Ain't no street parking. There ain't no. It's only enough for me. I spent $3 million to live up here and there's only enough for me.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's it.

[Deontay]

If I don't have. If you don't have a garage or if you don't have a driveway, which is very rare up there. Nobody has driveways. The only house that we really seen with driveways were the ones that were literally on cliffs. Yeah, you did what I'm saying, it got me thinking. Like, you know, just certain conversations we was having with certain people and they was like, oh, well, if you sign with this agency, this, you know, they probably own the house out there. So when you come out here, they just put you in that house. Oh, yeah. Okay. So that's all MTV Cribs is.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's it.

[Deontay]

Just a nigga showing off somebody else house. Yeah, they had somebody come in and decorate it. And they're selling you, Selling you a dream. Selling you a dream. Selling you the lifestyle of the rich and famous. But the famous aren't always rich.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Look at Redman.

[Deontay]

Okay, Red kept it real. Red kept it real.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

And probably had one of the most memorable episodes, the best one. I don't remember any of the other episodes, to be quite honest.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's it.

[Deontay]

Only the Red man episode and the JD episode.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, yeah, JD's.

[Deontay]

Cause he was on that Big Dog show.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, that's JD's. Yeah, you know, that's JD.

[Deontay]

Yeah, he. Nah, he was.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's him. Yeah, that's him. He's him.

[Deontay]

He's getting it in.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's jd.

[Deontay]

But I think the thing is, this is like the impact that that will have on you. What is the impact of it? The influences to the lifestyles of the rich and famous. Right. And even the people that were presenting these lifestyles weren't living them. But the impact that it has is to get the lower 99 cent something to strive towards. We used to watch shows about, like, these wealthy people and how they would spend all this money on yachts and shit like that. Shit like that used to come off VH1. Oh, did they even have one about Jeffrey Epstein? They did, yeah. Epstein went and bought a house. He was. Well, he was a school teacher or something like that.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, something like that.

[Deontay]

He just couldn't stay out the classroom, so he went and bought his own school and renovated it. Nigga spent $20 million on a New York City school and another $10 million renovating it. Like, bruh, that's how them niggas used to talk. That's how you used to talk. Yeah, we was like, oh, shit. N spent 30 M's. Yeah, at least that money but we 12 years out watching this shit.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

And then you think about this. It's like we used to enjoy watching niggas like just throw money in our face.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, There was a certain mystique about it too.

[Deontay]

It was a mystique.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

And we didn't really know who these people were. Like we didn't know who Jeffrey Epstein was. I'm just like, you know they had that show today, it was like Russian oligarch.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Hey, yo, yo, who said, what's the name, sir?

[Deontay]

I don't know.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Say it again, say it again.

[Deontay]

Just give me a weird Russian name. Give me like a weird, give me like a weird Russian name. Like Vladimir. No, don't, don't say the P1, don't say the picture. Like Russian oligarch Vladimir. Yes. He's killed millions of children, but he also owns 1 million homes in America. It's like God damn how you own a million homes in America.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

I get that.

[Deontay]

Yeah, I get that. Signed off on that CEO of BlackRock. I just hit you with one of them. This is not like they was like hiding that shit. Like we know what real money was in the early 2000s. We only knew what celebrities were.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

And celebrities were influencers for real money. But the impact that niggas have with real money is like poisoning your water supply.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Like real impact, real impact. Like and, and, and they up trillions. CEO of Dupont just see you through.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Punt is crazy.

[Deontay]

After killing, after killing 2500 in a small West Virginian town, now owns his own island. 220 million dollar yacht with a full 24 hour service line. Like, bro, what the are they talking about?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He's got too much money.

[Deontay]

They got so much money they just throw the killing in.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

After killing 2,500 children, it's like, what the fuck, what the fuck that got to do? What you mean he spent 220 million on a yacht? Niggas, forget all about the dead kid.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's real influence. Real impact, man.

[Deontay]

That's impact, bruh. That's impact. It's like the influences to get you away from it. But my thing is we wanna have an impact over influence. I don't want to influence, nigga, all the, the only thing I want you to buy maybe some of their merch. Definitely get on that Patreon. $8, you know what I'm saying? I ain't going to get on here hugging products and shit like that. You know these people that we know, these are black owned companies that we actually support. Like I actually drink this coffee, you know what I'm saying? We actually fire up these candles. You dig what I'm saying? Like we going to the Atlantic Comic Con. Like that's the thing. Understand like when we do have some sponsors and shit like that, we try and get some money too.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Shit, try to get some M's too.

[Deontay]

Try to get some money too. But I think the thing is you have to be very particular, meticulous. Nigga been doing this shit for three plus years now with no sponsors and no brand deals, no knitting. Like everything we did, we got out the muscle. So when them things come, just understand like, nigga been waiting it out. Nigga done said a note a hundred thousand times. I done said no to damn near everybody shit. So when we do just now we trying to get a little money, a little money, but ain't no, you know. Remember, the impact is always going to come first. The influence is secondary. When we think about these things like this though, you know, three these things, these three things are tied in these next three topics. When I say that black people would be experiencing a more opulent lifestyle had it not been for these people coming and destroying our neighborhoods. Then we got white people in Arkansas creating an all white town just in.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

The middle of the woods.

[Deontay]

In the middle of the woods. No Jews, no niggers, no gays, no Mexicans, Just straight white folks. As God would have had it intended. Just a God's and God's country. Yeah, with God's people. All right. I, you know, actually have at it. Do you think when this fails, these people should be executed?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, you think so?

[Deontay]

This is no different from, than seceding from society, right? Like, because it's not that we want to build a town for our white people. It's specific that we don't want anybody else that operates in this society here. This is a secession, right? We want to secede from society and create something that is for our own ideology. When how many fucking all white towns are there already in our cons, right? You feel me? How many sundown towns are there already in Arkansas? But these niggas are under the influence of MAGA and they think that people are coming to take the country from them. First of all, nigga, it ain't your country. You ain't rich, you poor. You're poor and white. So good. Go, go, go, go go. Get your doomsday on. Create your own white town. Execution was.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Execution was a little far.

[Deontay]

That was crazy. Yeah, I'm thinking about it now.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

God damn, son.

[Deontay]

Nah, this got me thinking about like every time we did this, they came and destroyed it.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Nah, that's right.

[Deontay]

I will say this. I don't think they should be allowed back into society. Go. Go down with your ship. We shouldn't be buying their goods. We shouldn't be buying any of their services. Anything that they're gonna do to try to like create money. Because they're racist and they're racist. They're racial extremists. They're white supremacists. And they want to create their own town. And we're giving that national news. For what? Jubilee platforming fascists. For what? Sydney Sweeney with American Eagle doing Nazi propaganda. For what? And it's all layered. All of these things are connected. The same person that would live in that all white town would also be on Jubilee. Saying they're a fascist is also probably one of the biggest incels that lust after Sydney Sweeney. Cause she's a blonde, she's blond hair, blue eyed. And what is she saying? Genes determine so many traits. Hair color, eye color, bone structure. It's propaganda. It's Nazi propaganda from a company called American Eagle. So for one, I don't know. Do black people wear American Eagle?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You know, we used to back in the.

[Deontay]

To never wear it again. If I see you in an American Eagle, I'm gonna assume you're a Nazi. The best thing about Jubilee platforming all these fascists is that we can see them. Right? Because that's the type of racism I like.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Just in your face.

[Deontay]

Yeah, Just go ahead and say how you feel, man. Don't hide behind it. Don't hide behind all these euphemisms and all these excuses. Just come flat out and say I'm a fascist. I respect that way more. Come flat out and say I'm a racist and I don't want no niggas in my town instead of dancing around it. Nigga, why do I, why, why am I watching. Why am I watching videos of Donald Trump and AI video with Obama getting arrested and then the next headline is about this nigga's ankles. Just open the Epstein files. Yeah, you, you, you got mad pictures with him. I, I don't, I don't, I don't have no concerns about your health. That don't matter. What's in those files?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Did you hear what her name. Azalea Banks. What her name is?

[Deontay]

Yeah, Azalea Banks.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

She said she, she's not surpri. She's happy that Donald Trump got some 15 year old or some shit. Like she said.

[Tyler]

Crazy.

[Deontay]

We have to stop listening Crazy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It's crazy.

[Deontay]

You know when they say a broken clock is right twice a day? Sometimes we gotta throw the clock away.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Cause why you keeping a broken clock? Whole point of a clock is to tell time. If it don't tell time, it's useless. It's useless. Throw that shit away. Who gives a fuck? Azalea Banks say anything to stay relevant.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Just. She's one of those people that just like JPEG Mafia. Just like let the music speak for itself. Well, you know why the music can't speak for itself? Because it sucks ass. Okay? It's cheats. And the only thing keeping you relevant is incel. Rage bait. That's JPEG Mafia. All day. Incel. Scaring the hoes. Scaring them hoes. Shut up. Same thing in Brazilia. Banks. Just like you got roasted on Wild N Out and cried about it.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Didn't Russell Crowe spit in her face or some shit like that?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

What?

[Deontay]

That's what she said.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Damn.

[Deontay]

See what I'm saying, son? Just get a little wicked over there.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Not Russell Crowe.

[Deontay]

Russell Crowe.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

The Gladiator.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

The Australian.

[Deontay]

Yeah. Got my face, nigger.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Aborigine. They just hit you. All right. Big ice cup.

[Deontay]

Aborigine is crazy while I work. But we need in some form or fashion, right? This is the thing we do a lot of like outrage and complaining and. And Jubilee this, Jubilee that. Like, bruh, you should actually understand. Like they're putting faces and names on these people. It's 20 people versus this dude. And all of them are racist and fascist. That's 20 people that you have the name and face to. Those motherfuckers should be on wanted posters. Like something like it. Not wanted, but like, bruh. Believe these people when they tell you what they believe.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Sydney Sweeney came up off her tits. Real shit. Like her titties is the reason she's famous. Because early in her career she was willing to show em a lot of tits. A lot of tits. Great boobs. Nice racist tits right there.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Great knockers.

[Deontay]

Great American tits right there. Would have got hung for them titties.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Got hung for the hooters.

[Deontay]

Yeah. A lot of would. Sydney Swing would have been racking up in the 1940s. But it's intel. Like the. The incels are the people that look at her as the prototypical woman. Right. I just watched a movie with her. It was a pretty good movie. She was a. A heroin addict. She played a great heroin addict. All of these things are connected and they're all happening at once. Because the reality Is this, this country is nothing. Okay, I'm gonna say this. You could take 75% of the white people that live in this country are way tomorrow and you wouldn't miss anything because they don't contribute anything but hatred. We can keep like the lawyers and CEOs and, and probably not keep them, to be honest, a big part of the problem. Big parts of the problem. If you take away the population of black and people of color, this country is shit. And it will eat itself in a matter of 50 years because they would. Because white people love war. So think about what it would be. Think about what the lines would be drawn, right, if there's no people of color to fight and point the finger to, they're gonna start pointing the finger at each other because all they wanna do is kill. And it would be a civil war. Like I'm telling you tomorrow, if all the black people and all the people of color left this country and went back to their country, as they always say, even though this is our country, if we left and went back, they would just do what they did when they got here, fight amongst each other, you know what I'm saying? Niggas came over here to a new land and still had civil war, still had Boston Tea Party, still like they, they look, they can't help but to kill, they have to. They have to have war. And within probably five to ten years of us being gone, you would, they, you would think they would have a utopia. But they need war. And it would just be a civil war. Civil war between right and left or whatever the case might be. They'll find something new to fight about, you know what I'm saying? Who's really white and who's not and all this, you know, they'll find, they'll figure something out. Yeah, they always will find something. It'll probably be a war between blonde, blonde and brown hair. Blondes and brunettes probably. Yeah. Who got brown eyes? Who got blue eyes? They'll find something to discriminate against because they truly can't desire peace because they are descendants of criminals. Australia and America is like the two countries where like, the origin of it is overwhelmingly, like, originated by criminals. The British just gave us their worst. They don't like, damn, they can't be here. Send them niggas somewhere. There's new world out there, go find it and just go settle there type shit. But as these things get increasingly more like, frequent with this Nazi propaganda and people coming out as fascists and all these all white, these white towns popping up and things like that, because this is just the beginning of that. We should take note of this as a country. And those people should be left out of the country because they don't want to be here. You know what I'm saying? But they don't have nowhere to go back to, quote, unquote, like this. To them, this is it. Just like they want people to go back to their country when this is their country. So it's like. But those people should be, like, ostracized and exiled because if we did that with the Confederacy, we wouldn't be in this problem today. I feel like every person that was a warrior of the Confederate army, upon them losing, they should have just got rid of them. They should have executed all of them. It was already a war. All they did was take the mentality with us and find their way back into government. And there you have it. Trump 2025. So I don't know. I just really don't. I don't get offended by it because it's like, at least they're being honest. Yeah, I could respect honesty. I understand the impact that it can have on, like, children and people that are more susceptible. But, you know, back in the day, they was honest about how they felt about people of color and black people and women and Jews, and they was honest about it.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Which was, I think, why it was there was an effective fight against it because we knew exactly who we was fighting. These motherfuckers like to hide behind haircuts and politics now and won't just come straight up and say what it is, you know, they want to tell you they want immigrants to enter the country the right way. What is that?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Because they'll never tell you what that is.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

There's no such thing as that.

[Deontay]

It ain't not to them. They just don't want them here.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

So they jump through all these loops and hopes and they lie. I think that's the most despicable thing about you. You're already a racist and you're a liar. Tighten up. You got anything else, Big Cat?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Nah, man. Good man. Let's get into. We're getting some emails and stuff.

[Deontay]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll be right back after this commercial break out. We back. All right. Getting some of these voicemails.

[Tyler]

Hey, Deontay, Big Ice Cup. What's going on, man? It's your boy o from the 615. Man first. Okay, I'm gonna make this quick because I know I can be long winded number one. I'm proud of Y', all, man, especially you. Deontay, like, bro, like, from going from watching you in the truck to. To seeing you. I mean, leading mind changes in the community, bro. Like, it's. It's some real. Bro, that's real dope to see, man. Yeah. What else? It's a few things, bro. Oh, bro, you need to make Deontay Kyle in the panderers, bruh. You need to get that on the merch. For real, bro. Like, if you get that on, I mean, I'm gonna buy some other merch, but if you. As soon as you drop that. If you drop it, I'm getting it, bro. Like, you should make, like, whole jerseys, bro. Deontay Kyle and the Panderers, bro. Let these know, bro, we. Who. Who needs to pander? Who needs to pander, bruh? Like. Like. Like is mad because these are bad. Because we look good and we love women. Like, for real. For real. Like, not just for sex, not just, you know, to feed our egos or whatever, but we actually like women to see them succeed. We actually want to see them do better. Like, dudes is crazy, man. For real. But yeah, man, other than that, I'm just. I'm just happy to see the movement, happy to see the growth, all of that, man. And yeah, also, last but not least, that Freddie Gibbs, man, that Freddie Gives album is some serious, man. For show. For show. Yo.

[Deontay]

I appreciate it, bro. Let me see what we got. All right, here we go.

[Tyler]

Yo, this is Tyler the Philosopher. It's like my third time trying to do this. I keep messing up. I don't even know if it. Just send whenever you end the call or whatever. But I just want to let you know I got your message. You know what I'm saying? I got your message sent through the universe about, you know, shy people caring and we need to hear from them and all that jazz. So I just wanted to let you know I started my show and everything called I'm so Not Sorry Again, I'm so Not Sorry on YouTube. Go check me out. I got some of the same talking points and just me giving my philosophy to the world and my way of thinking, trying to help out my community. I do. Got a question. Did you. Are you A J Electronica Fan 1. And did you visit a written testimony in 2020? And I want to know what you thought about it then, and I want you to revisit it if you don't already still listen to it and tell me what you think about it now, because to me, it's a masterpiece. So I just want everybody to go check out my show and everything on YouTube. My channel is called what the Family 123, but my podcast is called again. I'm so not sorry. We trying to build something for the community. I appreciate your time. I appreciate the alignment. Thank you.

[Deontay]

All right, that was Tyler, the philosopher.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Philosopher.

[Deontay]

I actually did fuck with electronica written testimony. But I will say this, as I visited it, as I've gotten older, that has aged. That's a. That aged very well.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It's a timepiece.

[Deontay]

It's a time piece for sure. When we was in New Orleans, I was listening to it because I don't know, you know what I'm saying? That's where that nigga from. I was like, let me run this while I'm out here. I think Eternal sunshine or spotless mind like that. Yes, sir, man. If you ain't. If you ain't a Jay Electronica fan, after hearing that, I don't know what to tell you. This is one of the people that have like very minimal productions out, very minimal, like tracks and records out. But for some reason, like, he just got that following because, like, he is on he God level rapper. He was outside of the courthouse when Diddy was on trial with two great names.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He's a mythical creature, son. Just showed up to the courthouse. Two great names.

[Deontay]

I'm here to support my brother. I was like, all right, well, that's. But he is a Rothschild.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He's not a Roth child. He had a baby by a rough child. Well, I guess he's a rough child.

[Deontay]

Exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Well, I guess DNA, he's a rough child. Imagine that. From the third war Magnolia and the Roth had a baby.

[Deontay]

Did they even mean that?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yo, how are they in the same space? Yo, that's crazy, though.

[Deontay]

Rap music, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You hear the story that mom be told about Jay Electronica. Say he was in Europe. Jay electronic would go to the studio. First of all, he picked him up in a. A Maybach. Drove about two hours outside of the city to like this farm. It's Jay Electronica in the studio, just in a form in the middle of nowhere.

[Deontay]

He just out there crazy out his mind. He's crazy. Nah, I think another thing we got, like, this is mental illness, you know what I'm saying? Nah, I ain't gonna lie. That's kind of fly.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It is.

[Deontay]

That's fly. That's fly. But like, where are we getting the food from? Where are we getting the Internet from?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

They got it.

[Deontay]

They figured it out.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

They figured it out.

[Deontay]

Shout out to J Electronica Got a Baby by Erica Badu.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Erica Badu and the Rothchild. That's a well, well balanced brother right there.

[Deontay]

Mythical pipe. All right, all right.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Mythical.

[Deontay]

Hey, yo, my bad.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Mythical pipe is insane.

[Deontay]

What? My bad, guys. Let's get to the last one.

[Tyler]

Yo, what's going up? What's that word? Christian podcast.

[Deontay]

That energy is too low. We need high energy when you call in here, man. Hold on, let me see, let me see.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

What's up? Grizzly eggs.

[Tyler]

Well, Beyonce cow. This is CH again.

[Deontay]

We're just gonna get into the email.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

They too low, man.

[Deontay]

They're trying to get too cool on the phone, man. Trying to sound sexy when you call me, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

What's up, Dante?

[Deontay]

Good work. Yeah. What's going on? Absolutely. All right. My roommate gotta go.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's what we like.

[Deontay]

What we like. We always do. The knowledge. Yeah, we got a little mess going.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

All right.

[Tyler]

Whatever.

[Deontay]

Since Deontay said y' all want that juicy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

I am here with my dilemma. I'll do a. I don't know what that mean. She said. She just said some shit. I don't know. Tl, semicolon, doctor up top and then the extra drama at the bottom. Y' all can include that. Or not. I need a nice way to say this shit long as fuck.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Jesus Christ.

[Deontay]

All right, we just gonna do two. So we gonna get through this crazy shit. Cause this is a lot.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It look like a lot.

[Deontay]

Good Lord, it's a lot. All right, hold on. Let me make the font a little bigger.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Jesus Christ.

[Deontay]

It's a lot. This is a novel.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, it's a Harry Potter book.

[Deontay]

I need a nice way to hopefully tell my roommate that I don't want to resign the lease with her because I want my own spot. Primarily because I am getting older. I find that I just want my own space, but a little bit because I'm having having a roommate is cramping my love life. I had a roommate before this one, and when I decided not to re sign with them, we basically stopped speaking after all the final bills had been settled. Which I was fine with, to be honest, as we were just acquaintances who happen to have the bunch. Happen to have a bunch of mutuals due to belonging to the same social club. So not speaking to him anymore isn't a hardship. But this roommate is an actual friend. And I prefer to save the friendship and my sanity and my sex life, if at all possible. Thing is, my current roommate has an eviction on her record due to some family crap and it's only from 2023, which will make it super hard for her to get a spot on her own. So me saying I don't want to keep this place anymore isn't just an annoyance, but will likely be an actual hardship for her. The Juicy I've had two, sometimes three jobs for most of my adult life. Because of that, I was always been able to live on my own once I finally left home. However, I started my master's degree program in fall 2023. Had to let my second job go in order to make that work. In addition to losing that extra income, the last apartment had raised the rent almost $100 a month while taking away amenities and handling a pest control issue extremely poorly. So when my lease was up I knew I wanted to leave, but I wasn't able to find anything reasonably priced and safe. So I got a roommate and we rented a house in a decent neighborhood. Got a roommate and rented a house in a decent neighborhood. That roommate was a white guy. This is juicy Very that roommate was a white guy who I knew through a social organization we both belong to most because he's polyamorous and I was dating two guys at the time we signed the lease. So I figured he wouldn't judge and wouldn't be extra and would be an extra safety net if when I decided to see anyone besides the guys I was already dating. Shun lady gets around.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Wait, is it a. Is it a woman or a man?

[Deontay]

I'm thinking this is a woman. Yeah, by the name I can tell it's a woman. We're not gonna put her name out there. All right, Long story short, the pros of him living there with pros of living with him vastly outweigh the cons. But the economy is still the economy. So I couldn't so I still couldn't afford to live alone. So I got another roommate. This one is a black woman who I knew better than my previous roommate. And also being a black woman, I felt confident that most of the cons of the previous roommate would be alleviated in that assessment. I was right. However, she comes with her own set of cons, mostly in the sense that her family takes advantage of her really bad. For example, my roommate has one child. Her baby daddy has shared custody every other weekend during the school year and every other week during the summer. Every time her daughter has gone to the baby daddy house, her 16 year old niece trying to come over there or her brother and sister in law are trying to pawn their younger kids off on her because the sister in law is pregnant and too tired. This is cramming my style because I am now in a relationship with a married couple and our agreement was that my partners, especially a man, wouldn't be over there while her daughter is home. But because of how her family takes advantage of her, even when her kid is gone, there are usually other kids in the house. Family taking advantage of her is also why she has an eviction on her record. She had her own place and her mom convinced her to pull with her parents and one of her brothers daddy died, lost such a. Jesus fucking Christ. This is a lot going on.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It's a lot, bro.

[Deontay]

Like, I think I'm straight.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, I think.

[Deontay]

Yeah, that's a lot. Too much. God damn. I mean I said juicy, not don't write me a book, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Wrote a novel.

[Deontay]

All right. We're moving along. We're moving right along. I don't even know or care how that ends so much. It's a lot. Write a book. My son's father gave up his rights.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That's what we like.

[Deontay]

He says. Yeah, and it's short. Right to the point.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Right to the point, baby.

[Deontay]

Hey Deontay, Big Ice cup writing you to you because I really love your podcast and I'm hoping you can help me out with something. 20 year old, 29 year old woman from New Jersey who has a 5 year old boy. I got his, his name is blank. Nickname is true. I got his middle name because he became the fact of my life. Oh shit. This is very real New Jersey.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah son yeah Real fact like Truth, baby.

[Deontay]

This is real Spill my nigga.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah yeah. Shout out to Truth, yeah Truth, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

I had to go through a lot of things during pregnancy and I decided two years after he was born to go to court. His father, a 36 year old man from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. We tried to make things work but we couldn't get along. At their court hearing last January, he. He reached out to my lawyer and said he wanted to walk away. He signed his rights the same day. It was a very sad situation being alone for two and a half years. I met my now significant other, 24 year old man from Delaware. He's been amazing to me and my son. He's the only man my child knows. They have a really strong bond. You wouldn't even know he wasn't his biological father. As my son gets older, I'm worried about keeping anything from him about his biological father. We as a unit don't want to keep him in the Dark. But we also don't want to hurt him. I'm curious about how you would handle this situation. I come from a Christian background and his stepfather is newly converted Islam from Christianity. I'm not sure how we navigate the differences in our belief. I hope you helped me out. I really appreciate it. Well, there really isn't no differences in y' all beliefs besides how y' all practice them. I would say that Islam is a little bit more rigid in the rituals, so to speak.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It's a little bit more disciplined, a.

[Deontay]

Little bit more discipline to praying five times a day. Woody. Woo woo. But if you was to follow Christianity, it would be just as rigid and disciplined too. I would say this. You can never justify your actions by saying, I don't want to hurt the child. Okay? The child is gonna experience hurt in this life. Right. We're all gonna experience hurt. The thing that's gonna hurt worse is lying. You not keeping it real with him. You not coming clean and telling the truth about, like, who his dad is and things like that. And also, you could just let him know, like, look, your dad signed his rights away. He didn't want to be your father.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah. Just keep it truthful.

[Deontay]

It's gonna hurt him.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, but it might not, though, if the dude is stand up like that.

[Deontay]

But another dude stood that stand up, stand up dude. Like, hey, I mean, I stepped in. I'm your dad. Yeah. And your dad's decision not to be a part of your life wasn't had nothing to do with you. It had everything to do with him. You was a fucking baby.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

He didn't even know you well enough to make this about you. It was a decision that he had made on his own because he didn't want to step up to the plate and be a man. So, you know. But by keeping it from him, you definitely are running the risk of hurting him much worse than just being honest with him.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Just be truthful, man.

[Deontay]

Just be honest. Always be honest.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Got one more.

[Deontay]

Got one more. Fake ass. Conscious niggas.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, shit.

[Deontay]

Hey, Deontay and biggest ice cup of cats. I hope the title caught your attention. It did.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

We like it.

[Deontay]

Giving gratitude to everyone over there in contribution to the podcast. There is no POD like y'. Alls and y' all are just doing God's work. There's no other way to put it. Well, we appreciate that. Onto business. I want to get your POV and insight into who use spirituality and conscious talk to double down on their. And when I say I mean their piss poor ass Egos and personality. I'm dating right now, and I've actually ran into a lot of guys that listen to your pod. But every time we get into a con, a convo in light of, like, spirituality, belief, they're weird as personality, POV and egos always come out. I know it's not just men, but I'm talking specifically about niggas right now. I try to give these men grace, but that shit just gets really gets me hot when I run into niggas that think they're so woke because they learned something new spiritually and happen to resonate with it. Honestly, as I'm writing this, it's literally the same people who use religion to justify their awful behaviors and actions instead of holding themselves accountable. Anyway, I trust you and Cat's opinions deeply. I just want to hear y' all talk about this topic and have a conversation. There are a lot of men who are so cocky and egotistical because of this, and I just think that shit is harmful. Collectively, y' all are fam for real. Big love to y' all families. I definitely love to meet y' all one day and kick it. I can't put into words how much of a blessing this podcast is. Major love. It's only up from here. That's a fucking fact. A fact. Baby, listen. See do Umar going through it right now.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

What he said. Trying to scam.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

In South Africa or some like that. Hold on. Let's go. Pull it up.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, cuz he got. He got his assets froze, his bank account froze.

[Deontay]

That's called fraud. Fraud. That only happens when you do fraud. Godamn it.

[Tyler]

Dr. Omar, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Well, here's the thing. Like, knowledge is such a. A powerful thing that it gives identity that didn't have identity before. So they see sisters elevating their minds, and they like, oh, I got to get in on this to get the sisters. But really, that's. That's where they hard. It's not pure intentions to be a knowledgeable person.

[Deontay]

Yeah. I think it's this thing of, like, feigning intelligence to capture somebody's attention or, like, you know, oh, this brother's actually smart. Like, but once you get past anything surface level, it's like they really don't know shit.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

They don't know nothing. And that's when the ego and the real personality pop out. Because they don't know anything. They really don't have the knowledge.

[Deontay]

They ain't doing it.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

[Deontay]

They was never doing enough.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Don't trust that Kofi don't trust that Koofy.

[Deontay]

Can't trust that Kufy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Don't trust that Kofi.

[Deontay]

Yo, you cannot trust that Koofy, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Nah.

[Deontay]

Yeah. Cause it can get. Here's the thing. This is why I talked about that when we talked about the esoteric stuff, is because niggas will try to use all these buzzwords and different things in order to like, scam and fuck over people. Which is why people don't like, when people say, like, grand rising and K. It's because, like, niggas that talk like that scamming.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, cuz.

[Deontay]

They use that to like, help you lower your guard down.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Don't call me with the grand rising king.

[Deontay]

I say that to people just to, like, be funny.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Good morning.

[Deontay]

Me. What's up, bro? Just say good morning. All that works for me. All that works.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

All right, let's check this out.

[Dr. Umar]

Because my personal account contains all of my Money, I own Dr. Umar has access to no money right now. Because my personal account contains all of my money, I only send it to Apple Pay and PayPal as necessary. So the prince of Pan Africanism.

[Deontay]

We ain't got on the prince of.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Prince Pan Africanism, son.

[Deontay]

Yo, what kind of clothes this got on? Yo, this is.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Hey, listen, this Dr. Umar, son, he's like one of the. In the West End. He just famous. Yeah, that's what it is. That's all it is. He just one of them in the West End that blew up on the Internet. That's all he is.

[Deontay]

He wanted these she talking about.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, he's actually. He's actually pretty smart and pretty.

[Deontay]

Nah, he.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Bro, listen, he's actually pretty intelligent.

[Deontay]

Yeah, but the grift. Yeah, he's a grifter for sure is what. For sure is what's going to kill it for sure every time.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

He's never inside the house. He's in the car right now in the car outside.

[Dr. Umar]

First time in my life is without any digital currency. So for my loyal supporters out there, for my loyal supporters, if you can spare a few dollars so I can take care of Queen Mother, IFA Tunde and myself until my bank account is frozen or canceled so I can get my money back and open up a new account, please hit my Apple Pay or hit my paypal. My personal paypal account is Umar the psychologist. Yahoo.com. so that's paypal. Me Umar the psychologist, paypal. Me Umar the Psychologist, paypal. Me U M A R T H E P S Y C H O L O G I s t paypal me umartheppsychologist or hit my Apple pay using my cell number. 215-989-9858215, 9899858. I've never asked the people for a dollar I have never asked the people for a dollar in my life. I have never asked the people for a dollar in my life. I've only asked you to donate to the FDMG Academy for boys. I don't have any sons. I have two daughters. So the FDMG campaign is a selfless project, mission and service to provide our boys with the education that they deserve. But right now I don't have any money because my account was frozen by my bank because someone has been trying to hack into my account, hack into FDMG Academy account. So the FDMG Academy account is frozen. My personal account is also frozen. That means we're going to lapse on our utility bills. We're going to lapse on our Internet bill. We're going to lapse on a lot of our bills at fdmg. The bank is not giving me a timeline as to when this situation is going to be resolved.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Hey, man, shit happens.

[Deontay]

I ain't gonna lie. That just sound. That sound like the type of shit that happen when you're doing fraud, bro.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

Also too.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

What? What is it?

[Deontay]

It's just like he begging for money.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

No, he's begging for money.

[Deontay]

And. And the other thing is this like he talking about they gonna lapse on the utility bills and all this. We. Why have you never made a video inside the school ever?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, I think he did. I think he showed it around once. Hey, listen, it's not finished by a long shot at all. Amen. What's wrong, man?

[Deontay]

What's wrong? This is a bad look, bro. Like, golly, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Hey, man, listen.

[Deontay]

This is a bad look, bruh.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Hard times following everybody.

[Deontay]

Sometimes they do, but like, damn, bruh. It's like, you know, you've been. You've been very high and mighty. He's. He's been very high and mighty amongst the black community and is his way of thinking is the way of thinking. He's the prince of Pan Africanism. All this and it's like they froze your accounts. But why? They don't just freeze accounts for no reason. And like, you can't just try to hack bank accounts ain't just something to hack into. And if you did get. And if they did, if you did get hit with fraud or anything like that, they wouldn't Freeze your account. They would start getting you to approve and disprove transactions.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay]

They froze your shit. Which means you did something foul, bro. Yeah, doing fraud with them fucking donations. And there's plenty of things that he could have did online. 19keys even said that. Like, why don't you just start like an online school.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay]

Where you teach classes and you offer mentorship. A virtual online class where you can. You can. You can have courses and you can use. There's apps out there that'll help you do that. But nah, he want them donations because that's how he eating. Let's keep it real.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

That is how he eating. Because he only have a job. He don't even teach nowhere. He's not even a college professor. None of that. You're just out here in the wild.

[Deontay]

It's crazy.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Living.

[Deontay]

That's crazy, son.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Well.

[Deontay]

My boy Umar gonna have to go get a real job now.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

You got to get a job, so.

[Deontay]

Or you might go or. I mean, depending on how this might go. To jail.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

It's not hoping. The prince of Pan Africanism.

[Deontay]

I don't want that brother in jail.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Who's the king of Pan Africanism? I would say so. Well.

[Deontay]

Episode 78.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

78, baby. In the books.

[Deontay]

God damn.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Help a brother out, please.

[Deontay]

I've never asked the people. Have a brother out, please. Damn, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Help a brother out.

[Deontay]

Change, man. They get a little nasty. Like when the old head, like they over 45 and they start going, Mohawk.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Can't go Mohawk after 45.

[Deontay]

Dr. Umar. Dr. Umar is a cautionary tale as well.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, he is.

[Deontay]

Him and slimmed up like that old school scamming, man. It just. It don't hit the same no more because he's too visible. Like, he's everywhere. He's on everybody's podcast. Oh, you know, 657234 eggs call in the greasy next podcast on Patreon. $8. That just kind of. That made me a little sad.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Made you sad?

[Deontay]

Yeah, man.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

The prince of Pan Africanism.

[Deontay]

Then the car begging for money, man. Damn, bro.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Well, shit happens.

[Deontay]

He look rough too.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, he ain't got. He ain't got that. He ain't got that glow about him.

[Deontay]

He normally got a little glow about him.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Yeah, well, he's fucked.

[Deontay]

This has been episode 78. I'm Deontay Kyle. Who's behind the camera?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

The coolest co host. Big ice cub cat.

[Deontay]

I guess now I have to be the prince of Pan Africanism.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Oh, my God.

[Deontay]

All right. I'm Deonce Kyle, prince of Pan Africanism. Who's behind the camera?

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Big ice cub cat.

[Deontay]

Big Kwanzaa cat.

[Big Ice Cup Cat]

Big Emoja cat.

[Deontay]

All right, man. Episode 78. We'll see how next week, man.