Episode 83 - Unhinged & Immoral ft. Mecca & Jamila

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast

Host: Deante’ Kyle
Episode 83 - Unhinged & Immoral ft. Mecca & Jamila
Date: August 29, 2025

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Episode Overview

In an unfiltered, laughter-filled late-night session, Deante’ Kyle is joined by rising content creators and podcasters Mecca and Jamila (of the "Unhinged & Immoral" podcast). The trio deep-dives into Millennial Black nostalgia, pop culture commentary, their trajectories as digital creators, the wild world of social media, colorism, hustling on the internet, black regional slang, and the realities of creative entrepreneurship. Their candid, tangential conversations blend serious insights with relentless jokes, dark humor, and a palpable friendship.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introductions and Early Jokes

• Starts with banter about mustaches, childhood teasing, and roasting family members. Mecca shares how growing up, bullying helped her build thick skin.
• Quote (Mecca): “I grew up 250 pounds with a mustache in Black middle school — like, you can’t really roast me.” [01:53]

2. Banter on Hairlines, Roasting, and Childhood Trauma

• Roasting tales culminate in a darkly humorous reflection on bullies and karma.
• Quote (Jamila): “Let me tell you something about it. That karma, my God. On today, biggest bitch I know. And she's good to me.” [04:34]

3. Dog Breed Stereotypes & Blackness

• Animated debate about “nigga dogs” (pits, rottweilers vs. “Karen” dogs like Yorkies and Shih Tzus) as markers of racial identity.
• Quote (Jamila): “Pits are Black! These are nigga dogs!” [05:47]

4. Colorism, Dating Preferences, and the ‘Dad Lookalike’ Theory

• Self-deprecating humor about dating people who look like family (“Steph and Ayesha” effect), and confronting colorism in dating.
• Quote (Mecca): “Girls all go through the phase where they date their dad. Some of them marry him.” [10:04]

5. Beauty, Plastic Surgery, and Bald Men

• Support for hair transplants for men; discussion on standards for men’s grooming.
• Quote (Mecca): “If women can get plastic surgery and it's normalized, shit—get your follicles!” [11:47]

6. Gen Z and Millennial Nostalgia: Tattoos, MySpace Era, and Slang

• Dive into old-school tattoo trends (“famous F,” the Millennial ‘S’), MySpace background aesthetics, and cringe y2k fashion.
• Quote (Jamila): “F is for funny, hey!” [13:34]

7. Origins in Content Creation

• Both guests recall their viral YouTube moments, MySpace profiles, and the rise of their online personas.
• Viral legacy: Jamila’s meme face, Mecca’s TikTok rants during lockdown.
• Quote (Mecca): “TikTok came around during the pandemic… I was just bored in the house, going through a breakup, got on the internet and was like, ‘Fuck Nigerians…’” [08:17]

8. TikTok, Virality, and Cancel Culture

• TikTok as both career launchpad and existential trap; importance of diversifying platforms.
• Quote (Deante’): “There has to be something tangible off TikTok, because if you just live on there—like with what happened in January—it just went away.” [65:30]

9. Roasting Hebrew Israelites, Doxxing, and Toxic Online Communities

• Guests’ history with online arguments, resulting in being doxxed and targeted by groups like Hebrew Israelites.
• Quote (Jamila): “They’re the first people that doxxed me... they hate me!” [23:44]

10. Black Regional Slang and Humor

• Spirited breakdown of Baltimore “dummy,” Philly’s obsession with “dicking,” New York’s “suck my dick,” and the southern “on my dick”/“on my puss” expressions.
• Quote (Mecca): “We need to have our lady bits talked about more… Big pussy face, I’m on my puss today.” [38:19]

11. Sex Work, Pimp Culture and Setting Rates

• Complex conversation about sex work: from high school acquaintances “on the blade” in California to joking about setting market “rates.”
• Quote (Deante’): “If I was a girl and was selling vagina, it would be expensive. Tricking is real!” [44:32]
• Segment on market rates, joking about “pussy stocks” and inflation for comedic effect.
• Quote: “I’m gonna start a segment on the podcast where you dressed up like one of the news… ‘Today, pussy is plummeting!’” [46:12]

12. Cult Leaders and Skepticism about ‘Woke’ Health Gurus

• Critique of grifters leveraging Black community trauma—Dr. Sebi, Brother Polite, and cults, especially regarding health misinformation and fake empowerment movements.
• Quote (Jamila): “The Breakfast Club… is good for inviting a nigga out there without vetting.” [52:02]

13. Realities of the Creative Hustle

• Money, taxes, burnout, building a team, necessity of learning every skill in content creation.
• Quote (Jamila): “Being in the creative space is not for money… The majority of musicians, actors, creatives are broke for most of their career.” [72:15]

14. Live Shows, Intimate Audiences, and Community Building

• Reflection on the power of small, intimate live podcast events and building connections with a core audience.
• Quote (Mecca): “You really felt the love in the room—you was like, these niggas fuck with this nigga.” [87:55]

15. Looking Forward: Future Endeavors

• Both Mecca and Jamila share their personal goals, including acting, TV, comedy, music management, and more live events—emphasizing multidimensional Black creativity.
• Quote (Mecca): “I want to be like Queen Latifah—never boxed in! She acted, rapped, sang, was a cover girl—she did all the things.” [92:14]
• Patreons, merch, and transition to more in-person podcasting and production.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “God sprinkling mustaches on light-skinned women. It's his favorite.” (Mecca) [02:09]
• “Rest in peace. Now that's a dark joke.” (Jamila) [04:05]
• “My dog is a shih tzu. That's a cracker. That's a Karen.” (Deante’) [05:59]
• "If we ever gonna slap a n***a, it gotta be Chris Rock." (Deante’) [40:53]
• “Politics—y’all have made it a cult. Next time you say you’ll never join a cult, think about the things you’re interested in…” (Mecca) [32:28]
• “If you have something important to say, then silence is your best friend. If you up there telling jokes, silence is an enemy.” (Deante’, quoting advice before first live show) [88:01]
• “Let that bridge—can’t get rid of me, bitch!” (Jamila) [69:12]

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Timestamps of Major Segments

• 00:44–07:04: Roasting, mustaches, trauma, origin stories
• 07:04–10:56: Region, colorism, dating, hairlines
• 13:08–15:07: Millennial tattoos, MySpace, nostalgia
• 15:51–19:03: Origin stories: YouTube/viral fame
• 20:19–22:58: TikTok skepticism, transition from Instagram
• 23:12–24:54: Going viral—what matters, Hebrew Israelites
• 27:41–29:30: Trump supporters & Black politics
• 31:20–33:11: Politics, cults, bio identities
• 36:04–37:15: Black regional language
• 38:06–39:52: “On my dick,” female equivalents, “pussy face the world”
• 41:12–41:46: Will Smith/Chris Rock Oscar slap analysis
• 44:31–46:49: Sex work, rates, economic reality
• 52:07–56:45: Dr. Sebi, cult leaders, health scams
• 65:06–67:23: Live events, in-person vs virtual content
• 72:15–77:57: The real work of creative careers
• 86:13–88:45: Power of intimate live shows
• 90:03–93:41: What’s next for Mecca & Jamila
• 94:10–96:07: The importance of in-person podcasting/creative energy

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Tone and Style

The tone is unapologetically Black, rowdy, and honest with a heavy dose of inside jokes, regional dialect, and cultural references. Dark humor and raw honesty are the episode’s calling cards. The hosts alternate seamlessly between roasting each other, reflecting on life's hard lessons, and collectively clowning on topics ranging from sex, politics, and Blackness to their individual hustles as creatives. Their chemistry is infectious, often punctuated by “you had to be there” moments—making the episode feel like a late-night kitchen-table conversation among friends.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is an animated hangout and a master class in Black Millennial friendship, resilience, and hustle. It’s both wildly irreverent and surprisingly insightful—a real-time snapshot of Young Black content creators navigating digital fame, authenticity, and community in the era of “going viral.” If you want to understand the current energy of Black pop culture spaces online, and laugh way too hard, this is an episode you can’t miss.

Transcript

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@Newbalance.Com Running.

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The leg crosses. Crazy.

[C]

Yeah, nigga. Yeah. Getting your we. This is a late night vibe. This is very late night.

[A]

And once again, we didn't bring no liquor.

[C]

We can't. Because we're not doing that. No, that's a post.

[A]

I didn't. I was left off bat and bougie that time. I didn't.

[C]

Okay. And you made that a thing.

[A]

I did. It was funny.

[C]

Yeah. Also too mocking me. Mocking me was a little crazy.

[A]

When did I mock you?

[C]

With the audio, with the. With the dreads.

[A]

Oh, I love that dreaded wig so bad. So I either have to imitate you or my brother.

[C]

Nah, it was. It was a vibe because everybody was like, mecca, Mecca on your ass right now. I'm like, what are they talking about? I went out, I was like, this shit is light. You know what? You can start the pod. We can start the podcast off with serious question.

[A]

Okay, wait. Do you not go to no intro that?

[C]

Man, these niggas know us, man.

[B]

This Grease and eggs, man.

[C]

Know us, man. That episode 81, Grease N podcast Unhinged. Tomorrow ladies are here. Mecca. And Jamila her Mecca. How does it feel to be hated?

[B]

That's a crazy first question.

[A]

How does it feel? I have no feelings about it. Honestly, I feel like I'm used to it now.

[C]

Yeah, it used.

[A]

I used to take it like real personal, but honestly, I use this. Like I grew up £250 with a mustache at a black middle school.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like you can't really roast me.

[C]

You did really have a stash too.

[A]

I hairy, you know, sometimes be hairy.

[C]

Yeah. That's a fact. That's a fact.

[A]

God. Sprinkling mustaches on light skinned women. It's his favorite.

[C]

I got an auntie with a mustache.

[B]

Listen, it is time.

[A]

Shout out to ladies.

[C]

That's what you did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Taught that money talking. Yeah.

[A]

It's not. It's not cheap. It's not cheap.

[C]

Hey, I got an auntie with a mustache. And when I had first started learning how to roast. Oh, boy, boy, boy, did I have a time talking about that stash.

[B]

Oh, I bet.

[C]

Yeah. She pushed me down the stairs behind that stash.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And my grandma didn't have no sympathy for me.

[B]

I. I wouldn't have either.

[C]

She's like, I done told you, everybody don't play like that.

[A]

Yeah, this. This nigga, when I was in middle school, his name was Dale. Ugh. Him to this day, I don't give a. I'll say his name. He used to, you know, what's his.

[C]

Last name, what's his Social Security?

[A]

Don't even know the nigga's last name.

[C]

You an unimportant ass nigga.

[A]

Back in the day, them. Them dip ups that had like the eyes. Remember that? And niggas loved him. We were in eighth grade, he played. He used to wear that shit every single day. Cause it was like some cool shit he got for his birthday. He really liked it. But he had came to me one day and I said, nigga, you had this same sweatshirt on for three months. I know it's musty. I said, it done faded.

[C]

Yeah, the designs ain't hitting no more.

[A]

Never came at me again.

[C]

Yeah, you talking about a favorite garment of clothing?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I wear it on his whole crew. They used to come at me. Actually. This is kind of sad. It's going to get dark. His best friend used to really, really bully me really bad. And he ended up unaliving himself when we were 16. And when they told me on the bus, I literally was like, oh, well.

[C]

Hurt people, hurt people. And I think that's the message.

[A]

And so wait, one of the niggas in the crew. This is how you know niggas don't take shit serious. One of the niggas in the crew was like, mecca, I know you not sad. That nigga was not nice to you. I said, I'm glad everybody knows. Yeah, but now as an adult, I understand hurt people, hurt people.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But his taper was pushed far back as fuck. And that's what I told him because.

[C]

Of what he did.

[A]

Hey, rest in peace.

[C]

Now that's a dark joke.

[B]

That's insane.

[C]

Rest in peace. My Dale, man. Dude, you're getting a deal. You should just hit him with that.

[A]

No, Dale wasn't there. I think Dale's alive.

[C]

Oh. Oh, but it one of the homies. Yeah, well.

[A]

But I used to be into it with both of them. Both of them.

[B]

I know. You might have just killed him though. No shade.

[C]

What?

[B]

Hey, that's just how it be every time I speak on a. They drop dead. Next week. I need to.

[C]

I ain't gonna lie. Last talked about me. Got his account snatched though. You better tread lightly.

[B]

Let me tell you something about it. That karma, my God. On today, biggest bitch I know. And she's good to me. She's been good to me.

[C]

Yeah, bro, you got to be cool. Like, I remember when I. So everybody knows that I used to take things from people and thievery. Yeah.

[A]

Thief, Robbery stealer.

[C]

I don't like the burglar thing. Like sneaking around, stealing.

[A]

Burglar.

[C]

I ain't a fan of that.

[B]

He had a.

[C]

If you don't take something from. Take it from.

[B]

Did you have the mask? Was you masking yourself?

[C]

I was. No, I was. I was barefaced robbing.

[B]

You gonna see I'm still.

[C]

Yeah. When you see me again. No, it's on.

[B]

We're bold.

[C]

Caught me slipping at a park one time. Like that. I was walking my dog. Think it was like, hey, I know you. I was like, it's on me. Hey, it's on me. Believe me, just for times like this.

[A]

Brother, think about touching my dog.

[B]

Damn, man.

[C]

I just got a dog.

[A]

A new one. I miss my son.

[C]

Yeah. He's two weeks old.

[B]

For the baby.

[C]

Yeah. My daughter been asking. Yeah, it's a purebred pit. Like American. It's an American Staffordshire terrier. The daddy. The daddy and the mama is both show dogs. This are real.

[B]

I love pits. But, you know, pits are black.

[C]

These are nigga dogs.

[B]

There's racial politics.

[C]

That's a nigga dog.

[B]

Yes, A Negro.

[C]

And I also, too, like, the only other option was a rottweiler. I'm going to get a nigga dog now.

[B]

Rottweiler is a little too.

[A]

My dog is a shih tzu.

[B]

Caucasian, but he.

[C]

That's a cracker. That's a Karen.

[B]

You got to have. He ain't need to miss.

[C]

No, no. Yorkies are Karens.

[A]

No, I was gonna say Flex. He's named after Flex Alexander is a crash out. We call him Y N C O. Flex. Cause that nigga's crazy. Really is a crash.

[C]

Shih tzu's be biting.

[A]

No, that's what I'm saying. He's a crash.

[C]

Yeah, My. My mama. My mama. First dog she ever got us. It was a shih tzu corgi mix. And that bitch used to bite everybody.

[A]

And he's got an underbite.

[B]

That's double crackle.

[A]

His little cockeye. That's my lady.

[C]

Let's start a new debate. Underbite. Severely worse than the overbite. Correct.

[B]

Absolutely severely.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Another thing I had in middle school and underbite.

[C]

An underbite, man, they had braces for six years, man. You was getting. You was getting hit with a Couple of real. Yeah.

[A]

Like, now you understand why when we was on the bus, I was sitting there straight face, like.

[C]

Yeah, because the underbite mustache combos.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. No.

[C]

Yeah. You really have bloomed. You dig?

[B]

Yeah, he.

[C]

So let's do like a quick little run through background on the both of you. We know Mecca is from the Bay.

[A]

I'm from Sacramento.

[C]

Oh, that's not the Bay.

[B]

You know, they beef about that.

[A]

Okay, so.

[C]

All right. E40. Calm down.

[A]

No, no, no, no.

[C]

It's like, don't kill nobody.

[A]

No, it's like if you're like. If you're familiar with black Maryland, and you say, I'm from Baltimore versus I'm from DMV type. So it's like the same thing. I'm Sacramento. I'm not from the Bay.

[C]

Okay, you from Sacramento.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then. Yeah, you have. Your parents are like the ultimate black power Negroes type. So when you start coming, so yo. But you got. Yo, like, your iteration of like, fame is. Is tick tock, correct?

[A]

Yes. So I started making. Why I had a follow. I had a following on YouTube way, way back in, like, undergrad and college when I was 18, 19. And I really fell off with that. And then when you. When TikTok came around during the pandemic, I started making videos, so it was like me. And that's when I was living in Baltimore, so I was just bored in the house. Larry Hogan had really shut shit down. They were shutting part, like you couldn't do shit. So I was just. I was really, really bored. And I was going through a breakup and I just got on the Internet and was like, fuck Nigerians. You know, shit built up.

[B]

Relatable.

[C]

Nah, there is an ongoing be. Because Nigerians, like, phenotypically are the most, like. They look the most like black Americans. And.

[A]

Yeah, I would think.

[B]

I mean, well, you know, I mean.

[C]

Yeah, but, you know, we don't, you know, we don't know where we're from, so let's not get it. But. So has he tried to spin the block since?

[B]

Which one?

[C]

The one.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Let's get into it. Let's turn into the messy pod. Ten minutes in, now we getting messy. So which one of these African men have spun back on the block, you know? Cause you do have, like. You like an African man?

[A]

It depends. I go through my phases.

[B]

I really do.

[A]

When I met Jameela, when we first, like when we were roommates at Hampton.

[B]

She liked them high yellow.

[A]

I really. I was in a heavy Devin Booker phase.

[B]

Was going to Have. That was.

[C]

I would have been green.

[A]

No, listen, I would have been scrap. That was when he had.

[C]

We would have been lighting the room up everywhere we go.

[B]

You actually were too dark for her.

[A]

Oh, if I be.

[C]

Oh, you wanted you a white pass a. That's a blue vein society type.

[A]

Yeah, I was on the.

[C]

Don't know about that. Yeah, wealth of knowledge guys.

[A]

Elitism like. No, I was on that shit.

[C]

That's a colorist ass relationship. Go ahead.

[A]

Yeah, no, I mean that's nasty.

[B]

It's hard to fight allegations like that. I ain't gonna lie to you.

[C]

I ain't gonna lie. Like light skinned people be like in adulthood.

[A]

It was very Steph Aisha. It was very Stef Aisha vibes.

[C]

They do twin a little bit too.

[B]

Yeah. And that's what definitely tends to happen.

[A]

Why it stopped because people kept telling me my nigga looked like my brother.

[B]

And I one of her niggas did look like her daddy.

[A]

Down stop.

[B]

To this day I say I don't know.

[C]

Hey, girls all go through the phase where they date their dad. Some of them marry him.

[B]

Well, I can't relate. I will never date no bald man today. Wasn't always bald. Yes, but my dad.

[C]

My boy just called down. Yeah, like you act like your bald. That's not something where arrive to. That didn't come out the womb. Bald.

[B]

I'm too young for that right now.

[C]

Okay, you about 10 you10 more years get you a dark skinned bald man type.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

After shaving cologne get on the grill.

[B]

It's something about being head.

[C]

Just do it one more time just for effect.

[B]

Hey, you know, I got texture issues. I don't know. I think that would fit.

[A]

It gotta be all the way shaved down. If it gets prickly.

[B]

I don't even want it to be that bald. Can he have a beard? I love a beard.

[A]

Yeah, but why you.

[B]

But I like it.

[C]

No, you gotta. You gotta actually have to have a beard.

[B]

You can't be fully naked. You can be.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? My man. I ain't gonna lie.

[A]

Oh, you do have a beard. I wasn't even putting.

[C]

You have that going. Birdman is insane.

[B]

It's too slim.

[C]

Like it's a lot of.

[A]

It's skin.

[C]

It's too much skin.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. Like the visual of a valentine and it's all.

[C]

It's a lot of skin. Get the. Where the follicles at my.

[B]

I don't know what body part that is. If you close your eyes it's like, could be anything. I don't like that.

[C]

Yeah, and that's good. That's all noggin, you know what I mean?

[B]

And then don't let you get them rolls in the back, you know.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah, it just comes with age though. That can really help that.

[C]

Yeah, Male pattern baldness is a real thing.

[B]

Well, you know, these days the boys get transplants and I'm a turkey. Yeah. I love the trans.

[C]

Are y' all advocates for that?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I don't mind it at all.

[A]

Like if. If women can get plastic surgery and it's like normalized, I shit.

[B]

Get your follicles, I think.

[A]

Go get your new hair.

[C]

Like me, you know, with luxurious hair and a great hairline. If I was to ever start balding, I'm going all the way bald. Tattooing my head.

[B]

You give that though, you know, you low key, alternative black. You just a nigga.

[A]

I was gonna say you got gauges and shit.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You that type.

[A]

Yeah, I could see that.

[C]

Nah, I'm definitely going. And I'mma have a permanent hairline. Like, my shit gonna be ill, nigga. My shit gonna be ill, nigga.

[A]

What I need you to follow, shout out to.

[B]

Everybody should be scared of you when you enter that phase.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Huh?

[B]

They should be scared of you when you enter that phase.

[C]

Oh yeah. When I. Cause niggas gotta remember I'm still a father. So p up to the PTA with the tattooed head.

[B]

Just cuz I'm running and the gauges.

[A]

You know what type of dad I am. I was into back in the day.

[C]

Yeah. And I'm present.

[A]

Yeah. I've changed my life.

[C]

Yeah. And we going to change some of these rules in this.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Karen. Sit your ass down, white lady. Your time is over. It's a new dad on the block.

[B]

Still.

[A]

Still on the roll back here. Like, oh my God. So scared of him.

[C]

Yeah. No. Yeah, cuz, you got to put something on the back. You got to give it a real pop.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

The thing you don't see that everybody else do.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Are you going to give it like color? Are you going to do all black?

[C]

No, it would definitely be color. I'm a light skinned man, you know what I'm saying?

[B]

You know you got to have a red tag.

[C]

It gotta be a mural, you know.

[B]

You see, I'm tatted with my sleeve. You see my sleeve? Come on now, get into the sleeve.

[C]

This is the. That's the. That's the 09 jerk that was.

[A]

Do you remember when niggas Used to use the famous F and then write family as a tattoo.

[C]

Yes. Dog.

[A]

And that shit really age like.

[C]

I'm so fascinated that age like milk. Cause famous ain't shit no more.

[A]

I'm fascinated with tattoos that age us like.

[B]

I love that for us now the.

[C]

F is for funny.

[B]

Hey, hey.

[C]

It is.

[A]

Oh, it is.

[C]

I'm sure it is. Things really don't go out of style. They just.

[A]

It's probably because they go out of.

[B]

Style, but they always come back.

[A]

Look at Ed Hardy. A couple years ago, no one was wearing that.

[B]

I think my favorite thing about that.

[C]

I recently bought some invisal jeans. Diesel Evies.

[A]

Oh, I'm not aware.

[C]

Yeah, you don't know when I pop out with all the pockets. Yeah. Also too. Y' all remember the. The Millennial s?

[B]

Absolutely.

[C]

So the. That you.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

The dollar sign.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Why was we doing.

[B]

I wanted that on me back.

[C]

I ain't gonna lie. Something about that is like so hood. It's. But also too. It's like. That gotta be like spell casting. Because why was we doing that?

[B]

They told me that that means south side, so I wanted it.

[C]

Oh, yeah. I used to tear a desk up with that.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

You know what that reminds me of? Them stickers they used to have that were like cute little kids, but they were being like, thugged down and have hella tattoos.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You remember when used to do that with like Bugs Bunny?

[B]

Yeah. Like, what was we. There was a time where it got no.

[C]

We nigga fied everything.

[B]

This is my space.

[A]

This is a very MySpace background.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Eyes had SpongeBob with the clothes.

[B]

Hell yeah.

[A]

What was the song?

[B]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Dj, DJ Nate, Lil Mama. Bad as hell.

[B]

What did you see?

[A]

That was my profile song.

[C]

That was regional.

[B]

That.

[A]

I gotta ask. So big like the sun. Mind you. Mind you. I'm 12. I'm 12.

[B]

It was all inappropriate stuff on the space. Nothing.

[C]

Tell me what the nigga said again.

[A]

What?

[C]

What the Sell the girl shorty got a dookie.

[A]

Oh, stupid dookie maker. He was from Richmond, California, though, so he don't have no sense.

[C]

It's literally my favorite thing I heard all week. I tried.

[B]

Ridiculous. I would be so scared.

[C]

Yeah. Calling it a dookie maker is so crazy.

[A]

Think they poetic and they sound like idiots.

[B]

No, no, thank you.

[C]

All right, Jam, we're gonna get to you. Okay, Give us. So we're Beaumont, Texas, and then we get our start. Because you are a meme.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

So you Y' all Both started on YouTube, correct?

[A]

She started for sure on YouTube. She went up on YouTube.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

At your peak on YouTube.

[B]

That I did.

[C]

Can you tighten up for.

[B]

I got these frames on. I don't know who I am. Okay.

[C]

So at the. At the, like, peak of YouTube, what that was looking like, numbers wise.

[B]

So it was crazy because we dropped. This was our second ever video, and it went up Sly Flex.

[C]

Major Flex, actually. Cause going viral on YouTube, and it.

[B]

Was 2011 when we first made our YouTube channel.

[C]

That's when going viral on YouTube, it meant something.

[B]

It meant something.

[A]

It could be on Ellen DeGeneres.

[B]

It tasted different, you know what I mean? But, yeah, we was just doing shit. My dad had a new MacBook Pro at the time, and it came with that imovie and them trailers. So that's what we did. We made a scary movie trailer. That was the first thing we dropped. And the next thing we dropped was black parents versus white parents. Because everybody was doing racial jokes, and I love me a racial joke. So I said, I know some things. I had a white friend and I had a black mama, and everything I did was based off of experience.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And so we literally just did that. And that video went up. I think to this day, that first one has around 10 million views. Yeah, it went up. So that spawned us just recreating. We had, like, a couple different parts of that. We did a few other type of skits, and we just kept it going up until I went off to college and I kind of just took like, a little hiatus because I was like, I can't keep doing this. I'm in school.

[C]

Like, ain't nobody from, like, Media Takeout or, like, all different like that.

[A]

I loved Media Takeout.

[C]

So that was my shit.

[B]

Something that I used to say, I regret it. Which I don't anymore, because you can't regret stuff that was never in alignment with you. But I used to think that it was a regret of mine to not really know how to, like, use the YouTube shit to grow, because I'm like, damn, I could have been on, but it's like, it wasn't your time. But I really just had those viral moments, and they kind of just stayed where they were. I never was. As far as I know, I wasn't reached out by any of those major blogs or anything like that. But because those videos were so popular and so viral, they were flipped and twisted and reposted everywhere, just without my permission and stuff. But I didn't. I didn't realize what it Was I didn't give a damn. I was in college, drunk.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I was having a good time. It wasn't until, I believe, 2015 or 2016 where the meme actually came. So it me up because I'm like, no, shade forgot about this goddamn video. And somebody randomly posted it on Twitter, like, as like a response. And I'm like, where the fuck did you find this? First of all? Yeah, like, it really. It really tripped me out. And then on top of that, it was like a one off though. And I didn't see it again for like a year. Then after that, a whole bunch of people kept sending to me, like, is this you? Is this you? And I'm like, is this a thing? And then it was just everywhere. Like, now it's just a very normal meme.

[A]

Twitter implemented the gif thing, and then people started compiling, and then it got included in that that you could readily, like, access it. That's what I started seeing.

[C]

That's how I seen it too. As a gift and just as like, a response. Yeah, word type. That's hard.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So then, did we all just start on TikTok because of COVID probably because I was.

[B]

I was definitely at home. And my brother was on it first, but he was on all the masks musically. Yeah. So he was on musically.

[A]

He was on. It was a little bit, cuz what.

[B]

Was the other before then?

[A]

Triller.

[B]

Triller. All them little things.

[C]

I never was with none of I was either.

[A]

Because the thing was, our brothers were still, like, in high school, middle school.

[B]

It was like the age thing.

[A]

And we was in college. It's like, I'm on Instagram, I'm grown on my mama.

[C]

And I was still. I was on some super duper dad. And like, I can't be. So, like, you know how people bring you is like, oh, this is a dance.

[A]

Mom girl told me to make a tik tok, quite literally, probably two years before I did. And she would consistently be like, you would go crazy on Tik Tok, bro.

[C]

That's what happened. That's what happened. Like, my homeboy was on some like, bro, all the conspiracy theory shit you, like, they go deep on TikTok. Like, he said, bro, you'll get. You'll love that shit.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I was like, that's the. But, you know, like, to millennial men, it's.

[A]

Y' all don't like new things.

[C]

Well, it was because, like, all the men before you, like, exactly. You know what I'm saying? And I'm just trying to Keep the tradition going.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So niggas was just telling me, like, bro, that's a dancing out. Like, they be on that dancing. So anytime I seen clips from it, I seen n dancing.

[A]

And I was like, but no shade. I feel like, well, not shade. All shade. When started getting. When. When was getting killed in the streets in succession. And then people started making videos of them at the marches. And then you had a bunch of people making, like, talking videos. I feel like that's when I was like, oh, this app is like, yeah, I need to be tapped in.

[B]

That's kind of my mama.

[C]

That's what. That's what my whole shit. I was like, oh, n be really dropping gyms.

[B]

I started making my videos about, like, when I first got back on social media in that capacity, it was still on Instagram because that's where my following was, mind you. The following was 4k. But in my mind, no.

[C]

Yeah, but that was.

[B]

To me, that was like my actual. Like, those are people I knew or came in contact with. Something like that. Right. So I got back on Instagram and I was making a lot of political content because I've always been very political. And so those videos had. Did really well. I remember a professional football player, you know me, I don't know much about that. I just know it said NFL. I said, okay. And he had reposted one of my videos and I had kind of took it far. And then my brother was telling me, you need to get on Tick Tock. I seen him shaking him hips and doing things. I was like, I don't think that that's for me. I think I'm past that.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But then I got on air, shook my hips with him, and I said, actually, it's fun. And then I was pregnant. One thing about pregnancy, you get bored. I was scrolling, I said, this is a hoot.

[C]

I love this.

[B]

And I joined it. And I got on there acting a fool. And it was just up from there.

[C]

My son actually like. So my son was on dancing and doing like participating in mad trends.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I didn't realize, like, how many trends was like they cycled through. Like, Tick Tock would have a new trend, like every four weeks.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

So like, my son was like, always, he was like, do these videos with me. Woo, woo, woo. And I'm on some like, super aggro. Like, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. But it's like, this your child too. I was gonna say, all right, bro, come on, we gonna say hip. Come on. God. Now I guess I got to. Yeah, you was gonna do it, but he was like, bruh, just download your own. He was like, you would like this app. Like, it's not just dancing. People be talking. He's like, I don't know what they be talking about, but people seem.

[A]

Cause I don't be watching that shit.

[C]

He was like, people seem to really like when people talk on here. And I was like, oh, okay. He was like, you be talking all the time.

[B]

You were talking to us.

[A]

Fire you up right quick.

[C]

You like to talk, you know, you be running your mouth. You know, you always seeing people, you know, and holding us up for 30 minutes when we was supposed to bend left. Yeah. I was like, okay, cool. I got on there. I probably just scrolled for, like, six months just to kind of peep the game. Like, peep the same. That's how I found you. And I was like, oh, it's a space for me out here. All right. Boom. And then, like, I think probably, like, the 10th video I posted went viral, and then it was on.

[B]

Yeah. It really only be taking one for real.

[A]

It don't take a lot, if you're consistent.

[C]

It don't. But it also.

[A]

But it's a little different.

[C]

I be telling niggas, like, what you go viral for matter.

[B]

So pay attention.

[A]

Listen. My first viral video was arguing with Hebrew Israelites. So, you know, Hebrew Israelite, like Nemesis on tick tock. To this day, them hate me.

[B]

They hate me.

[C]

Nah. When I, you know. Cause be calling them the gospel cues.

[A]

And fake ass cues.

[B]

Fake ass Lakers, they're the first people that dox me.

[A]

So.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Doxed you.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

They're crazy.

[C]

Them hate me, like. And I'd be telling them, like, look original, man.

[A]

I.

[C]

With what you got going on, bro? I'm just saying, stop yelling at niggas on the street. It's counterproductive and all. You look musty.

[B]

No, they are musty. I think I need to make that clear.

[C]

It's the thing about them. A T shirt with tassels is a crazy look, and we gotta throw that out there.

[A]

Who sold that on, like, Where'd y' all get that?

[C]

Make it at the women.

[B]

Exactly. Hello. You know, they got them ladies.

[C]

You know they got the ladies. Check that. Like, one of the women hopped in my dm.

[A]

And that's honestly, honestly what it was. It was video along the lines of, like, y' all say y' all look like you, but, you know, you always on black women.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

She was like, I have never been.

[C]

On.

[A]

Literally, just dumb. Just crazy.

[C]

Well, I. I think more than anything, the. The odd thing about it is, like, is sending their women to me to, like, try to convince me that it was like, you know, we respect and we revere our men here, and we treat our men like kings. And I was like, all right, shorty. I went to your profile. I went to your profile.

[B]

I know why you can't even wear pants. Shut up.

[C]

I used to work with a girl that couldn't wear pants.

[B]

It'd be what she like a little.

[C]

Bit, which is, like, Protestant.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I was gonna say she's also Jamaican.

[A]

Calvin Christian. Yeah.

[B]

They just shaking them up these days.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I ain't gonna lie.

[B]

The.

[C]

The long jean skirt in the summer used to blow me. Like, what are we doing?

[B]

Because them thighs is wet. You're hot. It's all. It's a lot of sweat reverberating in the cheeks and things under the long skirts. So it's hot and it's steamy up under there. You could boil some crabs. It gets.

[C]

Honestly, the jean don't let no heat go.

[B]

It don't. And then, because they don't have no slits, no air can get up. And there's trapped heat.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Already hot.

[C]

This all the way down to the ankle.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Hey, man, you know the things we do for God. So I would say. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

That's how much I love him. I love.

[C]

I like us. How much one wear jeans? Yeah. Nobody's seeing these thighs.

[A]

I'm just musty under the skirt.

[C]

Have y' all ever gotten. Have y' all ever talked to a. With, like. I'm sure this isn't. Whatever. Have you ever talked to a, like, wacky ideology? Like, something along the lines of, like, a Hebrew Israelite or, like.

[B]

Yes. Not as far as Israelite. I spot those afar. And I stay clear because they are always musty to be clear. Like I said, I don't do that.

[C]

I don't do must niggas like natural deodorant. That's what that is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I need aluminum.

[C]

Big proponent of aluminum.

[B]

I need that loom.

[A]

We need the chemicals in the South.

[C]

Put the aluminum underneath your armpits.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? I'm just gonna.

[C]

The cancer is gonna find us.

[B]

I just have to get whatever's coming to me because I won't be eating.

[C]

As long as we keep eating the way we eat and drink, the way we drink. Everything caused cancer now. So let's not sacrifice. You know, this. The scent. You know we need that conservative Trump.

[A]

Supporting who was like obsessed with me. Like, when I found out, I was like, oh, I'm good on this. This is.

[B]

You know what's scary about though? In my experience, they'll trick you. You'll think, this is a cool nig.

[A]

Yeah, he's so cool.

[B]

We're kicking. And the next, you know, he'll just throw something and be like. And it'll really scare you. Be like, we were so cool. Why did you just. Why did you just say that?

[C]

You made him feel safe.

[B]

Yeah, I know.

[C]

He felt like he could tell you.

[B]

That I don't want to make them feel safe.

[C]

He felt like he could tell you that women don't bring shit to the top.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? It gets real spooky. And then they say it so casually. He be like, what?

[A]

Huh? And it was the first time that Trump was running too. He dropped it in. Hella like. Yeah. So I voted for Trump.

[C]

That's a decision.

[B]

I went on a date with a.

[A]

I will give it. He was in the military, so it was. But Virginia good brainwash.

[B]

You know, that was strike.

[A]

It's right there.

[B]

That was.

[A]

Yeah, well. But the military boys was close to the college that I went to. So it was like with a military. Wasn't unusual. With a Trump supporting military was.

[C]

That's a little crazy.

[A]

So I like, I backed up immediately. I was like, oh, yeah, he's a white supremacist. And he. Why, why? Why are you not talking to me no more?

[C]

You know what's so crazy? Niggas that were like, niggas are Trump that are Trump supporters do think they're free thinkers.

[B]

No, they think that's free.

[A]

Annoying as fuck.

[B]

They think they're so different. Like, you know, you guys don't get it because now you don't get it. He made us pay attention.

[C]

He gave us $100.

[A]

Like, I mess.

[B]

Obama never gave me nothing like that.

[C]

Obama ain't never gave me nigga.

[B]

I was up with Trump in office. I had ppp.

[A]

I had that nigga.

[B]

I had like. Okay, that's cause you were unemployed.

[C]

Yeah, also too. It was Covid.

[B]

Like, we weren't. Nobody was working. Damn.

[C]

All right, too. Another thing too is just like Trump might. I would. This is the thing that I do like about this nigga that has merch. He got real merch. Obama.

[B]

It'D be expensive as hell. They'd be buying bro.

[C]

That is merged out. Like, bro, that got hella merch. My. Like, then they got Coins, calendars, Bibles. Bibles. That got the hat. That got iconic. Iconic hat. That like street wear. For real. That red for a certain.

[A]

For a certain.

[C]

That like Supreme. That's like.

[B]

Yeah, Supreme. All right.

[C]

That what?

[A]

Hell, it irritates me about Trump.

[C]

White supremacy. Nah, it's like to be orange. To be orange, like as a. Like a human sucks.

[B]

Willingly.

[A]

But that the thing why I hate. He's president, he's funny and he's always been funny. Cuz I've watched reality TV since I was like a kid.

[C]

For real. Is this mine?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, me too. E. Entertainment News.

[A]

The timer, though, you got to restart the cameras.

[C]

Not all of them.

[A]

Yes, just those two.

[B]

Yeah, we can go ahead and restart.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Can you restart the timer for the laptop for me?

[A]

Just.

[B]

It's YouTube, so just, you know, drag it to the front.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

What was the question?

[A]

It was about. I was about to say something about Trump being funny.

[C]

Okay, we rolling.

[A]

I mean, I used to watch the Apprentice, all that stupid shit. And he really. Yes. I, you know, like. And so when he started tweeting, I was like, I hate that I'm laughing at this because you're stupid.

[C]

Yeah. Well, also too is like during COVID like at the height of COVID Asian lady, she was a reporter, she was asking him something about like, you know, because they tried to put it like whatever the. Whatever the place was, whatever the lab was in Asia where it supposedly started. And so, you know, that ended up being like something.

[A]

It was a thing or it was.

[C]

A thing for a second, but it was false. Like, whatever the case may be. So she was trying to like hold his feet to the fire about like promoting that. That was it. And he was like, he looked this lady dead in her eyes and was like, I don't know, ask China. That shit was the funniest shit, my nigga. I watched that clip. I watched that clip like 20 times, dog. I was crazy. Because it's like this don't. You really can't. There's really nothing you could do with a. That don't care.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? Because in order for us to have like a healthy debate, you got to give a.

[B]

No.

[C]

So if I don't give a. And you do now. You look crazy.

[B]

Yeah. And that's, you know, honestly, that's why I stopped doing political content. Because, yeah, it got. It started to put me into a space of the Internet where I was like inundated with like stupid ass people. And that's actually my biggest pet peeve I don't like people who are stupid. I don't. And I can't. I can't. And it pisses me off.

[C]

Yeah. Politics became a thing. It became odd about. It became odd how people started, like, aligning themselves politically. Not even red or blue, just like. It became like an ideology. So it also became like a thing where it's like, this is a part of niggas bio now. Like, I'm a male. I'm six two, red, like Republican.

[B]

You're corny at the end of the day, is what you are. You're corny and you're lame.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And it's like, ew.

[C]

Even if you, like, go crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy Democrat, it's just like, that's weird.

[B]

They're all weird. Like, why it should be a part of your identity because it.

[C]

Because it's like there is other things going on. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

We're so susceptible to joining cults. And y' all have made politics a cult.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And next time you say you will never join a cult, think about the.

[B]

Things you're interested again.

[A]

Are you high? Are you stand? Are you standing something? Do you have a heavy.

[C]

Niggas do be stand out too.

[A]

Yeah, niggas be stand out.

[B]

That's my politicians.

[A]

In all fairness. I used to be Aubrey's Angels bad. I love Drake.

[C]

This is crazy.

[A]

I loved Drake. Oh, my God.

[C]

Have your feelings since changed that?

[A]

They had to because I did not at the point in which he really was, like, being crazy to Megan. That I feel like that is a good litmus test of where stand with like, black women and like, your own personal ideology. Just ask him his opinions on Megan and Tory.

[C]

So being on a song with SZA and saying whip and chain. You like American slaves.

[B]

White and your daddy's from Memphis.

[C]

Also, like, not even none of that. We could take all that. What are we talking about? Why is that bar in your mind? Why is that what we doing?

[B]

Mind you, I'm listening to it. I'm like, hold on. Okay, this. This is a one Drake that made.

[C]

Me stop in my track. Why would you say that future gotta sound like that? That made me go, bro.

[B]

It's always a couple of. Wait.

[A]

Dave Love did the same thing. I really hate I'm a Nazi.

[B]

Crazy how we did.

[A]

We was singing the fuck out.

[B]

Let a n try me, try me.

[C]

N had on buffs.

[A]

I love fucking five.

[B]

Always humble your sex. I'm a nurse. Like, why did you know what I'm.

[C]

Saying that nigga future the trigger. The way they be listening, y', all, that shit hard. That nigga said when I drop a tape, the murder rate increase.

[A]

Whoa.

[C]

Why? Why does it do that? When you drop, you drop a lot.

[B]

I said, so you're self aware.

[A]

Hold on, hold on.

[B]

So you're self aware.

[C]

Hold on. You just dropped three tapes back to back. What's going on?

[B]

Literally, what are we doing?

[C]

Why we say even? Like, bro, I was in the car with Deanna, and she was like, the fuck? Turn this off. She was like, this is crazy. Why are we. And she said, you're just vibing. I was like, no, I heard it.

[B]

Yeah, it do.

[C]

I wasn't gonna run it back.

[B]

It's just like, you know, what am I supposed to do? So, yeah, after that, I had to back up. Shit. Then he said it. I don't know.

[C]

Hey, calm down.

[A]

I wasn't gonna turn it off.

[B]

Damn. I don't know, y'. All.

[C]

I'm sorry, niggas. I want white people to start rapping about School Shooter.

[B]

Well, you want to talk about bodies on bodies?

[C]

I need. I need. I need the white rap album from the perspective of the School shooter. And put Joyner Lucas on there as a feature.

[B]

You're, like, insane.

[C]

I'm telling you, bro, if we get a cracker, a European on the track, like, if you want to rap, rap about what? You know, rap from the perspective of, like, a school shooter.

[B]

Like, say, cracker.

[A]

You said cracker.

[C]

Cracker, Hard R. Yeah, yeah. It's a difference.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

This is when I'm being derogatory, okay? Cracker is like what I would call a cop, regardless of color.

[A]

Really? You call black cocks crackers?

[C]

Yeah. Shut your cracker ass up. Yeah. Hell, yeah. That's what happened when you hang out.

[A]

It has to be.

[C]

When you hang out with people from Florida too long, that should just rub off on you. You just start calling everybody bitches. Tyler from a place like that, Tyler from New Orleans. Just be calling each other A out there.

[B]

Yeah, well.

[C]

Well, it was jarring when I first heard it. I was like, hey, who you calling A? She was like, this is how we talk, little bitch.

[B]

And baby.

[C]

Yeah, pick, pick.

[B]

Which one you want.

[C]

What you doing? I was like, call my phone like that. You know? D. Me and D, still out there. D, Call my phone. What you on?

[B]

Well, hold on now.

[C]

I just woke up.

[B]

Watch those keywords.

[C]

It's 10am don't call me. No, that's afternoon talk. You know what I'm saying? I'm going back to bed because tripping nothing. Now literally, I had plans before I was called a. As soon as I opened my eyes up. Yeah. Regional language is. Is funny. That's. That is regional language is lit. Cause like, I don't know what in Baltimore be talking about.

[A]

What's up, dummy?

[B]

Let me tell you something about that.

[C]

Northeast gay, gay, gayest lingo of all time.

[B]

And I love it.

[C]

We realized these are the like, pause champions. Like, they created paws because they be.

[B]

Saying homophobic and gay at the same time. But then when I heard them Philly. Them Philly say, I'm dicking you. Wait a minute. Like, everything is dick. Really? Everything is dick in Philly. Dick, dick, dicking, dicking and dicking.

[C]

I literally had a 30 minute conversation with a nigga from Philly, like one of my best friends from in Philly. I was like, why y' all be dicking everything?

[B]

Why is everything?

[C]

He really explained like the whole like, this is how it started. I was like, so you know where.

[A]

The dick comes from?

[C]

I was like, I was like, so. So it's some gay.

[B]

So you agree? So you agree it's a whole lot of dicks.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Digging, digging, digging.

[C]

Yeah. Cause the New York be like, suck my dick. And it's like.

[B]

And they.

[C]

That's aggressive.

[B]

So hard.

[A]

I'm on my. They. They clarify it's supposed to be I'm down on my dick. And people from Florida, Houston, New Orleans was like, no, I've heard that. That's the thing. It means I'm broke, though.

[C]

I'm broke. I'm on my dick. Yeah.

[A]

I said it to Jamila.

[B]

I never heard that on the pod.

[A]

And she was like, pause.

[C]

No, no, no. I just mean you up now.

[B]

That sounds super broke now.

[C]

It's a lot of it feels broke. I'm on my dick. I got nothing left.

[A]

But they don't have a dick. But it's like, why are you on on your dick? Like, why are you on your stomach?

[C]

I think if we. Let's do knowledge. If I'm a man and I'm on my dick, that mean that's all I got left. Like, all I got left is my dick.

[B]

I got a song, I got a song. It's not a woman. A woman. League use.

[C]

Yeah, but girls can use it, I guess. Girls, y' all use everything. I think also too.

[B]

Talking about I'm on soft.

[A]

Turn me off when I get the ick. I'll be like, I'm on soft. Straight face, like. And I love saying it. Cuz the reaction we need to.

[B]

We need to have our, you know, lady bits talked about more. We can't. Everything can't be centered around these boys. Big pussy face. I'm on my puss today.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

I'm just on my. But that sounds powerful.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

When you come in swinging your pussy in the room.

[B]

Pussy face in the world. It's the way I. Is the way I like to.

[C]

That's powerful.

[A]

Powerful.

[C]

Don't say that out loud. Niggas will take that and run with it.

[B]

That's how Jada was sitting with Will. Pussy face in the world.

[C]

Jada was dead in a power stance.

[B]

With that nigga here. Go Will. I said, that's how I kind of want my relationship.

[C]

I don't want. I don't want a woman to ever have that much power over me. Really? Nah. Because it's like, have y'.

[B]

All. So you don't. Like a domino.

[C]

Ah.

[B]

Ah.

[C]

That whole shit like Will getting in that bag. Like, what we doing, Will? Y' all ain't seen his freestyle.

[B]

I had. I've seen all of them. And I'm like, Willard, if you don't.

[C]

Know my action star that went barb on. Even though I'm an action star.

[B]

He's going through a little midlife crisis. He getting back to the music.

[C]

I'm like, lying in real time.

[A]

Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

[C]

The had the video where he was dressed up like a baby, and he was dressed up like a woman, and he was dressed up like the Fresh Prince and Will now. And he was like. I was like, this nigga is ruining his legacy.

[A]

Really?

[C]

This is. This is my bro, first of all, my nigga.

[B]

This nigga made Ali like, you're really amazing. Also was.

[C]

You don't remember that now because all the shit.

[B]

It's because of the slap. Because. No, I'm telling you, Slap a nigga. He felt bad about it. If he felt bad about it, he'd have been okay. But he got a lot of guilt associated with it because he needed. The white folks was real mad, man.

[C]

He was supposed to become a double.

[B]

Down after that sl. Slapping it.

[A]

He'd have been cool.

[C]

I ain't gonna lie. He should have been like. Should have better remember, I'm from Philly. That's what he should have been on.

[B]

And he been cool.

[C]

Cause slapping a nigga is iconic, bro.

[B]

He hauled back, man.

[C]

He open hand slapped that in front of everybody in Hollywood and the world.

[A]

That was Keep my wife's name out your mouth.

[B]

Fucking. It was fucking mouth. He meant It. I said, fucking cool.

[C]

That nigga Chris Rock said, okay, man.

[B]

Look, he said, I am, I am, bitch.

[C]

You just slapped me.

[B]

And I got a bitch. Like, that was really embarrassing. But you know, when Samuel L. Jackson.

[C]

I thought too, if we ever gonna slap a nigga, it gotta be Chris Rock.

[B]

That's why I said, when Samuel L. Jackson dapped that nigga up after, I said, oh, I see what's going on.

[C]

Yeah, slap that coon ass nigga.

[B]

He's older. Slapped by a couple of bitches. Yeah.

[A]

Because if you people old Hollywood was still fucking with him. I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Nah, Denzel wouldn't embrace him. Like, we been supposed to slap this bitch ass.

[B]

We hate that guy. I get it. Fuck.

[C]

That nigga been there, wanted to slap a. Only one of us had the balls to do it.

[B]

Right. It's okay, son. I. I understand. Yeah, he was.

[C]

Hey, if I was Chris Rock, I'd be like, you ain't that bald head. I'd have doubled down, would have had to come shoot me.

[B]

Not gonna embarrass me on stage, cuz. Now everybody could have be upset and uncomfortable.

[C]

That's why your kids is weird. I would have been on. I would start talking about Willow or something. I would have brought like, that, nigga, you just slapped me, nigga. Cuz, Chris Rock is a.

[A]

He's a coon.

[C]

He's a coon.

[A]

He is. He didn't have that dog in him.

[C]

Yeah, he ain't had that dog.

[A]

That's why Tony Rock say, fuck Will Smith. Like, he slapped my brother at beef with him.

[B]

Like, y' all ain't doing.

[C]

You ain't gonna do to Will.

[B]

Shut up.

[C]

That he won't do to himself.

[B]

Hello.

[C]

Well, cuz, even though he's an action star.

[A]

Okay, Since y' all are into hip hop, I have this question. And I know you guys can't see, but there's other musical people in the room.

[B]

There's a whole lot of boys in this.

[A]

It's some boys. Ace from Love Island. How do you feel about his rapping flow? His wife.

[C]

I don't even listen.

[B]

You know, they don't know no Love island, baby. You gonna ask them a boy question and go, love Island.

[A]

He's raps and he's.

[C]

I would never listen to. I'm never listening to. Let me tell you something about boys. They're not gonna know if A is on reality tv. I'm not listening to his music.

[B]

They're not wrong crowd.

[C]

Reality TV is mine wrestling?

[A]

No, the tweet did go viral. Some was like this. Get this Will Smith flow out of here. And, like, a whole bunch of people were retweeting it. So I thought you guys had seen it, because it did.

[C]

So if a. Compare your flow to Will Smith, that mean you garbage.

[A]

Well, he has. He raps in full sentences, which I don't mind, because I'm tired of niggas mumbling. But you know how back in the day, a hip, a hop, a hippie.

[C]

I mean, we've come a long way.

[A]

Rakim changed the game to enunciate every, like, word, which is what he does.

[C]

Enunciate.

[A]

Yeah. You know, that sounds like.

[B]

Because he's from California, though, Clock. Because that's a regional thing, too.

[C]

Like, yeah, y' all do really love.

[B]

Y', all, like, the top.

[C]

Y' all love a consonant out there.

[A]

We speak clearly and articulate.

[B]

Yeah, allegedly.

[A]

Allegedly.

[B]

I think Southern, and then y' all.

[A]

Do, like, this articulate.

[B]

I think Southern people are very articulate.

[A]

We just think Southern people.

[B]

We just have. We just got our own flavors. We just have a different dialect.

[A]

Their own flavor. Their own flavor.

[C]

How does it. How. How. How many. This is very regional California question. How many girls did you go to high school with that are now 304s?

[A]

A lot, actually. Sex trafficking and pimp culture is really ingrained in, like.

[C]

It is. I know. That's why I asked you.

[A]

So it goes down into the slang. I. One of my close friends in high school actually was literally on the blade, like, at 16, and it wasn't anything that, like, where was my mother? In jail. But, you know, a recipe, you know, hindsight, 20 20, as a grown up, it's like. Yeah, but it's like, as a kid, it's like, oh, you made some money last night, you know? Yeah. No, it's.

[C]

I mean, but what would you do if your son was at home crying all along in the bedroom floor? Cause he's hungry and the only way to feed him is to sleep with a man. For a little bit of money, bitch. Little bit of money. What you mean, a little bit?

[B]

For a little bit of money.

[C]

If I was a girl and I was selling vagina, it would be expensive.

[B]

It would happen.

[C]

Cause tricking is real.

[B]

What do you try.

[A]

You have to the market.

[C]

Tricking is real. Nah, fuck, that's. Y' all gotta read the book Contagious and, like, up your scale.

[B]

What's the going rate these days? For a one day, you do have.

[A]

To, like, what are your.

[C]

I would deadass.

[A]

What are your rates? Is a real question.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Niggas are like, what are your rates?

[C]

Where y' all at with it?

[A]

I mean, I would definitely be high end because there's different. There's different levels.

[C]

What we starting at like, 2,500 for one puss. One puss. 30 minutes.

[B]

30 minutes.

[C]

I would. That's not.

[B]

Y' all saying that's too much for the puss, but you know what?

[C]

You know what is it too much time? It's based off of the stocks right now.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

All right, man.

[B]

Hold the hell.

[C]

On Pussy Makers is his own market. Is this a real thing? It actually is. All right, tell me more.

[B]

Which stocks is it? Apple?

[C]

Is it for 30 minutes hits?

[B]

He said that's ridiculous for a piece.

[C]

Sell, sell, sell. That's inflation.

[B]

So what's the going rate for today for 30 minutes?

[A]

Yes, honestly, realistically, it's probably somewhere between 250 and 400.

[C]

This nigga's a pussyologist.

[B]

You be on.

[C]

You be on back page this. You be on Craig N. The nigga's like this. Actually, there was something on Twitter. No, bro. About how strippers are funny. I hold that because I'm gonna start a segment on the podcast where you is dressed up like one of them news that be going through the stocks and be like, today, pussy is plummeting.

[B]

No, please.

[C]

If you gonna get it, get it now.

[B]

Buy now.

[C]

Buy now. It's a bear market, nigga. It's a bear market hit for.

[B]

The stocks are down.

[C]

The stocks is down. Is $50 for 30 minutes right now. All the time. 50% off.

[B]

50% off.

[C]

The pussy's flying off the shelves right now, guys.

[B]

But it.

[A]

It really does depend on what circles you're in, though.

[C]

No, we. Not on your. Well, no, actually, your algorithm is crazy.

[B]

No, we don't see that, sir.

[C]

Your algorithm is.

[B]

Well, how much did you dick go for?

[C]

Who? Dick? Yeah, Dick is free.

[B]

Well, it do be.

[C]

I wouldn't charge for dick. I charge for everything else. Like the experience.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

I had, like, food ac. Wi. Fi.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Shut up. Give me, like, 30 minutes to myself. Let me reflect on whether this was a good decision or not. I'm crying because I just met you and now I'm here, and what does that say about me?

[B]

Yeah, to be honest, the thing with prostitution is the only thing that separates prostitution from regular living is you be willing to somebody who's not cute, in my opinion, because we as people, y'.

[C]

All be ugly for free who could never be me. I just say y' all like, well, let's let's.

[B]

Let's put some parameters.

[C]

Not the unhinged and immoral podcast.

[B]

Okay?

[C]

Just girls. I be seeing girls with some ugly niggas.

[A]

Same.

[B]

But see, when you're a prostitute, you is, isn't. I don't know what. How it goes, but don't you just take what come to you as clientele?

[C]

Yeah, yeah. You got to take all dick. All dick is.

[B]

And I would be choosy if I was a prostitute. So if it's like, I might.

[C]

So you would probably be more of an escort.

[B]

An escort, Yes. I think that's more my speed. Meet me at the hotel lobby. I'm sitting there like, Pretty Woman, room 301. Meet me there.

[C]

I be following girls on IG and they always in the hotel. I'm like, damn, she's selling pussy probably.

[A]

You know what's crazy? Getting grown and obviously hindsight 20 20, I absolutely realized Taz's Angels were sex workers.

[C]

Oh, man.

[A]

Bro, when I was in high school, I thought them bitches were cool.

[C]

Oh, my mama. I did too.

[A]

And her big hair.

[C]

It was a light skinned bitch with the big hair. Yeah, she was hella flexible.

[A]

I won that hairstyle. She's so pretty.

[C]

Hella flexible.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Taz was a pimp. And he was tricking them girls out that house, that mansion. Yeah. The pool had me on Snapchat. Like, I wanna this. I want this life.

[C]

Oh, yeah, you was almost there.

[B]

That's how they get you.

[C]

That's how they get you, bro. That's how they get you. That's how you end up in Puerto Rico with a named Nature Boy.

[B]

Oh, hell no.

[C]

That's how that happens.

[A]

Nature Boy.

[C]

Y' all never heard of that? That had a coat.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[C]

And he was like, I fuck in front of my son.

[B]

Yes, I did see that.

[C]

I don't put my.

[B]

Was he from Atlanta?

[C]

I don't know where that nigga from.

[B]

Okay. Cause there's also another cold from me was shot from Atlanta too.

[A]

Oh, it's so easy to talk about.

[C]

So I have like a close friend and Shorty was like, really into like that whole thing. So it was like a whole thing. And like, she knew the lore. Like, this was like her reality tv because they was on. You remember Bego?

[A]

Yes, I was on Bego for a second. Making money.

[C]

Yeah. So that's how they was getting their money, and that's how people started discovering who they was.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And so the nigga was basically broadcasting their whole lifestyle. So they kind of lived in like the jungle type Shit. And they was like, you know, you need to break out the matrix. Babylon is falling. And then they had this whole thing like.

[A]

We are Atlantis and the Israelites.

[C]

Oh, God. So we kind of was creeping into that region of like, yeah, your teeth is supposed to be yellow and all right.

[A]

Just like how Dr. Sebi said nut is supposed to be green.

[B]

And they. They was listening to him.

[A]

But y' all love the alkaline diet.

[C]

Anyway, man, it sucks when you find out things, people, things you believe in was don't it like a little hoaxy.

[B]

Doctor definitely gives. Are having too many periods.

[C]

I ain't gonna lie, man. I had. I was sea mossed out, nigga.

[B]

Everybody had a doctor.

[C]

I was a CMOS. I had my granny eating SEOs on my mama. I did.

[B]

You know, the funny thing about Sebi.

[C]

And his 97 nutrients, you can.

[B]

You can still eat your seas and your vegetables. It's just like, it's not going to cure the aids, though. We just got to be honest.

[C]

N. Yeah, he just.

[B]

He took it too far. He could have just been like, hey guys, let's eat healthier. And kept it at that. That got on said nut should be green, shouldn't have no periods. And this berry is gonna cure that. Aids.

[C]

There is a subset of like woke that gets into the health sector. Yes, that does start saying women shouldn't have periods. This is not the first time I've heard.

[B]

No, it's a real thing.

[A]

It's a thing.

[C]

And it's like. And then I remember a doctor was like, if the woman's not having her periods cause she's malnourished, nigga, there's something wrong.

[A]

It's a sign of like, you're not healthy for real.

[B]

It's a bad indicator.

[C]

Oh, oh, I know when I first got hip to this. What's your boy name? What's your boy. They got your boy, man. On sex assault charges. What's that name? I'm trying to think of his name. Dark skinned. No, that was a stim, actually. That was just me stimming. Actually. That was just. My brain is cooked.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

No, what's the nigga. Who's the. What's the nigga from New York, Brother polite. I was. I really.

[B]

That sounds like a cult leader, though.

[C]

Listen, dog, he had.

[A]

He sexually assaulted somebody.

[C]

A child.

[A]

Oh, God damn.

[C]

It gets nasty. Listen, that had me, son. That was on the Breakfast Club. He was like, you know the language that. That's actually emitting vibrations. They speak through vibrations. I was like, oh, this nigga's spitting.

[B]

And one thing about the Breakfast Club.

[C]

They had me, son. I was like, oh, this nigga's intelligent as fuck.

[B]

The Breakfast Club is good for inviting a nigga out there without vetting.

[C]

Oh, God, they will invite anybody.

[B]

Then they be like, tell me more.

[C]

That's another thing, too. That's what added the validity to it for me. I was like, he on the Breakfast.

[B]

You want a Breakfast Club, I gotta listen. Yeah, they do that all the time. Then they be like this, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They don't have not a liquor Google up while they talking. Don't know what the they talking about. Just let them speak. So, yeah, it's easy to get got.

[C]

Yeah. Cause Envy had the on there that was scamming in the housing market in New Jersey. Fat ass. That's one of my, like, most viral videos ever. Just roasting them.

[A]

Where's Hamto? Crying.

[C]

Hey, we work. I'm gonna call you back. We record. We recording. If you ain't talking, say what's up to the part.

[A]

I don't want to talk. I call you back.

[C]

Yeah, but I'm gonna call you when we do. We probably be done, like, an hour. All right. My phone is always on dnd. I knew something was happening. All right, so cult leaders, Breakfast Club, Lion Ass. Where were we?

[A]

How are they all related?

[C]

How? And how.

[B]

It's a pipeline.

[C]

And how do we avoid this? Because what's the next grift? Now, I've said, and I think y' all would be great at doing this with me, that once. I'm not gonna say I'm gonna fall off. I'm gonna say, you can't be a podcaster forever. And I definitely want to go the church route.

[B]

Well, it's the biggest. I always say this.

[C]

I definitely want to go 5013c that year.

[B]

That's gonna.

[C]

And it's always gonna work.

[B]

It's always gonna work. And I don't ever want to say that. Like, you're relying on God, even though it's like, I know I'm gonna be in church.

[C]

Like, oh, God. I'm telling y' all the truth. Oh, God, this is some real shit. Oh, God. These are my real thoughts and opinions and feelings from the Lord himself. Real shit.

[B]

Like, I'm prophesizing over my life.

[C]

If I preach like a nigga, like, from outside, like that, like, oh, God, like the devil for real. Like, why, if you wanted to, you can start a tomorrow, like, on some real shit. Like, why is you worshiping the devil? Like, oh, my God, bro, you Know the streets is paved with gold. 24 karat gold in the street when you die, heaven. And you want to go to hell.

[A]

Hell no.

[C]

Niggas need to stop sinning, man. Nigga playing.

[A]

I need to have that church pass.

[C]

The collection plan.

[B]

Exactly. And that's how we'll get them.

[C]

Oh, we fucking got them guys. I'mma be in the back like, ooh, we ate today. We really eating in this bitch. Oh, my God. Live stream. Cut the live stream on. Let's do a money spread on these niggas.

[A]

I mean, you seen the first pastor money spread.

[C]

The holy money spread.

[B]

Nigga, that would eat.

[C]

Stop playing with me.

[A]

Jackie.

[B]

Jackie Perry.

[A]

Fighting the spirit of lesbianism and losing, but got on there.

[B]

Who Jackie Perry.

[A]

And told them kids, you deserve to die.

[C]

Oh, that lady, okay.

[B]

Who is anti gay.

[C]

What? On my butt like a tub. And she worry about me. I'm a thug.

[B]

I said.

[C]

Dead. Look like a stud. I take up the mic. Every time I hear the word stud, I start rapping that something's wrong with my mind. Kodak Black.

[B]

Okay, that sounds about right.

[C]

And rapist. A sexual assaulter.

[A]

Another one.

[C]

God damn it. The with the most talent, get very.

[B]

Handy.

[C]

Talented, get very handsy. When it comes to the girls.

[A]

It's weird.

[C]

It's odd.

[A]

What's up with that?

[C]

And you know what? I hate this excuse, man. He got money, he rich. He don't gotta rape nobody.

[B]

It's only if. Only if that's what y' all think.

[C]

It's not about rape them are just about power, brother.

[B]

Evil, actually.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a little evil. Like, yeah, I seen Diddy's oil collection the other day. I thought we was over that, but then he got like, two different kinds.

[B]

Of oil, and it was just like the pure quantity of it that. That disturbs me to this day.

[C]

It is. It is a quantity thing, because that's a power.

[B]

You don't even use one bottle of bag.

[C]

You have to call in a bulk order. Niggas are bringing that to the crib on a palate.

[B]

And that's when they should have been starting to do some alerts also, too.

[C]

The different sizes. So not only the second shipment came.

[B]

In, I would have been calling FBI. Something, something up.

[C]

They doing something.

[B]

Two shippers of baby.

[A]

Why do we need this?

[C]

So here's the thing. For me, it was purely the different fluid ounces, the big it to make baby oil aesthetically pleasing in the bathroom was insane. That was the craziest part. To me, it's a Part that nobody talked about. He had them showcased and then he had drawers with the little baby ones.

[B]

Yes. Like, I'm like, we're prepared.

[C]

Yo, what's up with all these different sizes?

[B]

And by the way, guys, this is for everybody listening. Baby oil is a horrible lubricant. You should never use baby oil. I was waiting for you to finish.

[A]

So I could say that y' all.

[C]

Not into the oily.

[B]

You should, but it's not a lubricant. It's baby oil based lubricant.

[C]

When they used to do the porno in the, like, the little kitty pool with the baby oil everywhere, I was like, this is very sloppy. Yes, but it does make that ass shine.

[A]

And that's.

[C]

And that's what we're here for.

[B]

That's really all it.

[C]

We're here for the visual.

[B]

It's good for that.

[C]

We're here for the visual.

[B]

It is good for that. Make your booty glist.

[C]

The back shots look crazy, but we.

[B]

Have to pay attention to our vaginal health and our ph balance, ladies. Water based lubricant is best.

[A]

And.

[B]

And. And when you get into using things like baby oil and Vaseline, you're actually cutting that coochie up from the inside out.

[A]

Really not good.

[B]

Tearing her up. She's sensitive. You have to be careful.

[C]

So can you give ladies an alternative water based lubricant?

[B]

Coconut oil.

[C]

Do you have like a brand name maybe?

[B]

I don't.

[C]

I'm not coconut oil.

[B]

Coconut oil is great. It's also antibacterial, anti fungus.

[A]

Not against.

[B]

L. Yeah.

[A]

I said I'm not against lube.

[C]

Not against lube.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know how some be like, I get wet in my.

[B]

The way wars?

[A]

Well, yeah, I never use lube. I don't need it. I'm not against it.

[C]

I remember I was at this young lady's house quite some time ago. She was much older than me.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

They always are. They introduce you to some things.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, funny enough, I'm a. I'm gonna get back to this.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Another cougar that I fucked when I was like, 20. I saw her in Walmart with her daughter the other day and I said, hey, Sherry.

[B]

Hey, Mrs. Paul.

[C]

And she's like, it's been years.

[A]

I know.

[C]

I was like, you still. I could. I would still fuck right now. I remember the things you did to me, but.

[A]

Did she eat your butt?

[C]

No, she.

[B]

She.

[A]

I just wanted to know.

[C]

She gave me head with both my ass cheeks in her hands, so I was like, up on my toes. I was on my tippy toes.

[A]

Like, whoa.

[B]

Really in there.

[C]

She was really sucking my dick.

[A]

Really? She's like, ah. Yeah.

[C]

That was like. Like when a.

[B]

You can't go nowhere.

[C]

If you look up head in the Bible, it's this like, what the fuck? And it. But it felt so good. I'm not even thinking about, like, how emasculated this is. She was really, like, grabbing him cheeks. Yeah.

[A]

That's a skill you only get from being older and, like, being younger.

[B]

Yeah. There's a certain. Yeah, she was really older. People are dick. It's something. If something happen after the age of 34, people just get really disgusting and it just stops. It just keeps getting worse and worse.

[C]

Right. So then we're gonna park back on the street that we originally were on.

[B]

Right.

[C]

So you know what I'm saying? I'm doing my thing.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And it's this drawer next to her bed.

[A]

You in the drawer?

[C]

No, no, no, no, no, no. She. Okay. Bed right here. I'm right here. She kneeled down in front of the bed. Give me head. Reach into the drawer.

[B]

Oh, she does this every time.

[C]

Reach into the drawer. Slide news where the lube was.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Squirt, squirt, squirt, squirt. Got on the bed, eagles up. I was like, this bitch is a whore. Yeah. I'm in the house of a prostitute right now.

[A]

She's just good at what she does and also too.

[C]

Condoms on deck. Pick one.

[B]

Good girl.

[C]

I was like, I actually like it over here.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's a very safe environment for sex.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes, yes. She's prepared. She's self sufficient.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

She's organized.

[C]

We'll talk more about this after this commercial break.

[A]

Oh, it's been 30.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Period.

[C]

All right.

[A]

I know that's right. Who is this?

[C]

That's an hour in the books. We could do 30 more. How y' all feel?

[A]

I'm feeling all right. This a not Sabrina and them drunk.

[B]

Like, mind you, we haven't talked about anything of substance.

[C]

No.

[B]

You know how we do.

[C]

But it's like we have, and I love that. Yeah. I like when. When anytime we do stuff together, it's always just, like, fun.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

And you need to. You need fun. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

We can't be serious.

[B]

No.

[C]

That's like.

[B]

I have nothing serious to say today.

[A]

I actually want to pull up this freestyle and have you guys listen to it, though, because I do think it's history.

[C]

What? From the. From Love Island?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Okay, let's do it. That's our next segment. Love island freestyle.

[B]

Payment on the way. Thank you.

[C]

Hey. Hey, man. How do y' all feel about. Okay, let's do it now. Run that.

[A]

Are we rolling?

[B]

So this is.

[A]

I'm gonna play Aces freestyle.

[C]

Sound like a vibe. I ain't gonna lie.

[A]

He said I can make a rap song without even cussing. He's from la, though, so that track.

[C]

That hard, kind of slick. I just like to beat, like, when get a. You know, production will save a lot of niggas.

[A]

Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

But if you. As long as you can put them words together the right way, you gonna be all right. So what's next?

[B]

You are about to ask us something.

[C]

Oh, why was y' all dressed up like old ladies?

[B]

So, funny enough, this actually is a story, and I don't think I'm trying to. I don't know what order all these episodes are gonna come out, but there's actually an episode that will iron out all the details of that. But I'll give you a little pre.

[C]

All right.

[B]

So we originally wanted to have a live show in June because we felt like it was time all these things. Also, we had just got invited to south by Southwest by this company by the name of Galaxy, which. Let's just say Galaxy. Nothing that we were promised. We were given. We were promised $40,000. To this day, we have not had any money sent.

[C]

Not that niggas have died for less, let me tell you something, because that's $80,000.

[A]

No, no, it was 20.

[B]

So 20 years.

[C]

Okay, okay, okay.

[B]

So, yeah, but a part of that, right? Literally, me neither. Never seen it. So in conjunction with $20,000 each, they were also supposed to support our live show as a sponsor. And because that was what was about to happen, we were in the. The pre planning stages of that, and it was going to be a part of the theme of the live show. And so we wanted it to be like the YAP show, very reminiscent of old school talk shows. And we're silly, so we want to do that. So that was a part of the media rollout that we were going to do. So we had filmed that in probably March, April, and we had just been sitting on it.

[A]

And.

[B]

And of course, as things started to roll out, we realized, number one, we're not getting this goddamn money. And number two, we're not having a live show in June. It was. It was wraps. And so then we finally got the confirmation from Essence Festival. And so once they dropped our flyer, I was like, let's just Use that as promo for us being an essence fest. Because I hate. It was funny. Like, I want. I don't want to go to waste. And so we just dropped it like that.

[C]

Oh, yeah. I mean, that was like. I don't know why, but it works.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So well.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Both of y' all are very convincing old women.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I mean, my parents, as an old soul, you know.

[C]

Oh. So, no, because y' all got the whole, like. Y' all got the whole thing. Church like, church like mothers of the church. That was what I was getting.

[B]

So we want to incorporate it more. Just kind of just being silly. Because also, I think the way we repurposed it, it played into this idea of us being of a certain age.

[A]

And.

[B]

And, you know, we're not. We're 29, so, you know what I'm saying? We're touching 30. And we call ourselves auntie. But also, the term auntie has started so much controversy for us. And so it's like us poking fun at this idea of people considering us to be old, but us also not giving a fuck.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So we just kind of played all into it.

[C]

Yeah. I thought it was great. I think y' all should, like, do it more.

[B]

Oh, we will.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, y' all seen what we was doing in LA with the skits. It's a. There's a.

[A]

And that's when I was telling you, this is aligned. Like, that was an alignment.

[B]

It really was.

[A]

Because I didn't really know. Like, Jamila said, oh, we're gonna link up with Deontay. I didn't really know what we were doing.

[B]

You know me, I just thought she.

[A]

Just throw stuff out. I didn't know. But we had heaven on a meeting because we're obviously still going to have a live show and talking about the construction and how that looks like. And so we wanted to. We're gonna do, like, a variety show aspect. Like, that's literally in, like, our pitch and all that. So when we came in and y' all were like, oh, we're doing, like, a variety. I'm like, this is crazy.

[C]

Yeah, No, I think. I think it's good. I think our trajectory being a shared experience, too. It's like. Cause even with y', all, when y' all started the podcast, I was happy. I was like, finally. Cause that there has to be. There has to be something tangible outside of TikTok. Because if you just live on there, especially, like, with the thing that happened in January where it's like, it went away. You know what I'm Saying so, like, I'm happy for myself. I was a year removed from only being on there. I had my YouTube presence. But for the people that I fucked with on there, I was like, damn, what's going to happen if I can't see them no more or I can't like consume the content? Like, Instagram really don't push the best.

[B]

Content and you don't get paid from.

[C]

It and you don't get paid.

[A]

We did a whole thing where right after, when we thought everyone was getting banned, we brought a whole bunch of black creators on our Patreon episodes just because we felt like we don't know what's going to happen with the app and we want people to still be able to see their creators and like, find them.

[C]

I think it's good. I think it was a good thing for everybody at Craze on there because it made everybody aware, like, hey, this can just go away.

[B]

It was a wake up call and it was a shake em up. And I was appreciative of it because it also was just the funniest week on that app to date.

[C]

It was.

[A]

It was so much fun, though.

[B]

I had so much fun because I had.

[C]

Nobody gave a fuck.

[B]

I didn't care. I was like, you know what? I'm about to just do as many dumb stuff as I could. And I had so much fun creating skits from that. Like, I was dropping skits every single day that week and every last one of them went up and even I was on live doing a Tick tock funeral, watching the app disappear in front of my eyes. And it was the funniest that ever happened. Like, it was funny.

[C]

That did really start glitching.

[B]

Oh my God. I'm thinking they cap. I really thinking they capture. When that popped up, I said, oh, gag. I was so pissed then to wake up the next morning, I was like, y' all are annoying. Like, y' all really had us. But, you know, it was definitely wake.

[C]

Up call when that went away though, was like checking their phone. Like, damn.

[B]

I kept. I kept hitting it. I said.

[C]

I was like, this can't be real.

[B]

I need to scroll on my Tik Tok. I was addicted.

[A]

No, that really do it again though. They post the.

[B]

That's what they keep.

[C]

Extended it like 120 days.

[A]

Yeah, they said in January it's. But they're creating M app because I think meta or something bought it. So we're going to have our own version of Tick Tock or something along those.

[C]

Of course we are.

[A]

I don't know, man. It is what it is.

[C]

Yeah, I'll find Fix that rpm.

[B]

I don't care about nothing else. No, fix my rpm.

[C]

Oh, my mama, Fix that rpm.

[B]

Because what the.

[C]

Also, too, like, my. I'll be having videos that be having like 20,000 views, but like 12,000 likes. Like, why ain't this higher?

[B]

Telling you, my first of all, my videos have been going so crazy for the past, like, month and a half. I'm talking about every last one of my videos going up. My RPM is the lowest it's ever been. The money that I should be having and making. It's pissing me off because it's just like you.

[C]

That's how they get you. It's not a reliable source.

[B]

It's not.

[A]

And so it's not.

[B]

I'm glad we took the hint so early on to, like. But that was going to always happen regardless. Because, I mean, my goal was to never be a TikToker. There was never. TikTok is new. That was never the goal. It just became a means to an end. Almost like it became a really powerful, great platform. And I'm appreciative of it. But I'm glad that, like, those moves. I made those moves early. And so now if TikTok was to go away today, I wouldn't worry. So.

[A]

Facts.

[C]

No, that's a bar.

[A]

Facts.

[C]

Let's let that bridge.

[B]

Can't get rid of me, bitch. Yeah.

[A]

Taste it like that in your mouth, bitch.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Hey, so what y' all doing? Like, what, y' all doing a podcast together but also being friends prior to that? Is it odd spending so much more time together, or do you think. Have y' all had any, like, spats where it's like, we haven't had any spats? It get odd or is it because y' all always been friends?

[B]

It's like, I wouldn't say it's odd. It's just different. Cause we have. Because we've lived so far. So we've been together more in this past year than we have in the last. So that's. It's different, but it's not really odd because it's like, I mean, we were roommates. Yeah. We're very familiar with each other.

[C]

So this is like a full circle moment.

[A]

For sure. For sure. Like, and when I say we were roommates, we were freshman roommates and, you know, them twin beds two feet apart. Like, so I think us being spending heavy amounts of time together, it just kind of feels natural. It gets familiar to have it. So it's like, oh, like, again, full circle moment.

[B]

And it's different now because we're grown. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? I'll just go to my room or something.

[A]

Like, yeah. Like, the dynamic of playing with her son while she's in the room, like, is like, well, look at us. We're adults.

[C]

I asked y that cuz somebody asked me that. And I was like. They was like, you and Big Cat was friends already, but y' all spent a lot more time together. And I was like, I mean, we're friends.

[B]

Like, yeah, this not a big deal.

[A]

It's not.

[B]

You know, Like, I also.

[A]

I think it helps because there are different type of friends, and we don't. We're not. Like, our dynamic isn't needy.

[C]

Okay. We're not. Like, we don't have that codependent, you know?

[A]

I think the dynamic would be very different if we were, like, either one of us was a needy person. Like, we're both very independent in terms of, like, how she said, like, she'll go off, I'll go off. And it's not like, oh, my gosh, she just left me type shit.

[C]

Like, he never going because he's not going to take on, like, they just.

[B]

Handed me the keys to the car.

[A]

Life not coming home with you.

[C]

Yeah. Because bro went to a gender reveal. He was like, I mean, my little brother Finn have a baby. I'm going to the general reveal. I was like, he not like, you gonna really do the show without me. Like, he not thinking like that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? That's my dog.

[B]

I'll see you tomorrow.

[C]

Well, I mean, we quite literally have to record three episodes tomorrow.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. No, that's how it comes off for us. Like, I mean, I'll see you.

[B]

I'm not.

[A]

I know where you're at.

[C]

Yeah. Also, like, yeah, I know where your mama live.

[A]

Like, and I also think that that someone else had asked us when we were at the National Urban League Conference about, like, going into business with your friends and, like, how we feel about it. And I am a staunch believer. Y' all be knowing who your friends are. You know, your homeboys, your homegirls not good with money. Y' all know how their business practices is. Why are you going into business with them? And you can still love them as a friend, but know that, like, we ain't entangling oh, bread together.

[C]

Yeah. You know, so, you know, like, you know the type of people that put, like, the horse before the cart before the Horse type, like, you know, that's terrible at business or always get rich quick type vibes. I would never go.

[B]

Yeah. Somebody who's not patient, who don't understand.

[C]

Like it takes time to build.

[B]

Yeah. And sometimes you gotta having to explain that to people. I think that's a creative thing too. People who are in the creative space understand it's like you may not get paid for a while. You got to be down for the cause. Are you down for the cause?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You want to just create. You know, because it's not. The creative space is not a lucrative space. And I think that people get that confused because they see, you know, the lifestyle, quote unquote, and they see us being places and things like that. But you know, being in a creative space is not for money. You cannot get into it for money. Like musician. Musicians are broke, actors are broke, creatives are broke for the majority of their career. It takes a lot to make money. It takes a lot to, to get there. And even when we get there, it's not what you think. It's not like millions and millions and millions. Like it's like the top 1% of that type thing. You know, everybody's not Tom Cruise.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So I think that is just a misconception of. Of how all those things work together.

[A]

Also you remember when Taraji was on her revenge tour and she was kind of talking about breaking down. Why, like it's necessary that black actors and actresses are paid equally. Because we have to pay the same agents that white actors do. We got to pay the same managers white actors do. And getting to the point where we need like a team behind us and really understanding, like, oh, I didn't really make shit.

[B]

Yeah. Because I got to. It's such a collaborative. Yeah. Industry.

[C]

Yeah. It should be at least honestly being the talent and being like the boss is so much responsibility because it's like you do got to make sure everybody taken care of.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And like something that I've been so out the gate I went lawyer and then I'm dealing with an accountant right now. But we're going to make things official in a few weeks because I don't want to have like money problem.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

As far as like taxes. Where's the money coming from? Where is it going to how? Like I want, I want to have somebody that, that's they gig and they get it. But I'm fully transparent.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I have all visibility, I have all knowing.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I just don't want to be the person that's managing and controlling it because because it's like you'll get into co mingling funds. I done did that. I got like business coming to my personal and personal going to my business because it's like that's a job.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? So it's like I don't realize like not to try to do everything myself.

[A]

Yeah, you have. That's an awareness that you need to have.

[C]

Yeah. Because I think doing everything myself at first was easy, but as things went on, it's like fudge. I can't.

[A]

Yeah. As you scale up, you can't also.

[C]

Too like, you know, with so many things to do, it'll make you do nothing.

[B]

Hello.

[A]

You ain't getting shit done.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You're not getting anything done effectively because you're doing everything.

[B]

And that's why you have to know when to scale. You have to know when to scale. You have to know when to delegate. You have to know your strengths and your weaknesses.

[C]

That's why, like, I'm appreciative for my team and shit. Because like with Suki, I don't have to think about merch. I don't got to think about our website. I don't got to think about how this shit going to be edited or how it's going look. But the camera shit with Big Cat, like having his own like being self taught on how to control our production.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't even got to do that.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah.

[C]

I just like when he show up, I'd be like, okay, cool, I'm gonna go get dressed.

[A]

Cool.

[C]

And I come back down, everything's set up, you know what I'm saying? And the most I'm gonna do, give me some coffee, smoke a cigarette, it's showtime.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Right.

[C]

And you know what I'm saying? But it's like coming from like editing. I was editing everything myself. I was, I was doing this shit off the iPad with a cheap ass microphone. And so like it was good that I know how to do everything. Because now in a situation like today, but we don't got no AV or anything like that producer, we already know how to do everything.

[B]

Listen, that's the. Whenever people ask me as far as like, what's some advice you give people who want to be in production? You need to learn everybody's job.

[C]

Hell yeah.

[B]

I say that every single time. You need to learn how to do everybody's job. Because I cannot tell you how many times I've been in a situation where I've had to do somebody else's job. Even if it's not my forte, it's not my ministry. Like, I was just telling you the other day how I had an editor just completely like, I ain't doing this and I had to do it. And I hate editing. Like, but what am I gonna do? Not have that shit edited? No, I'm just gonna get up and do it. And it's like you have to be well versed in all the things, even if you're not, you know, amazing at it. You need to know how to do multiple jobs and you need to be ready to go.

[C]

Right?

[B]

That's my other advice.

[C]

Being ready to go also too. Like understanding what a production is versus like, I think people think like this shit. There ain't nothing that go into this. But when you're doing it and you're doing it the right way, it is a tedious thing. Like, you need to make sure that everything look the way it's supposed to look. And also too, you gotta align shit up like with your audio and how it's shot so the editor don't have a hard time taking care of the shit. But also, like, even when we was in la, I'm. I'm not thinking about what I'm doing. I just know what the big picture is. So then I sat down with the two dudes that run the studio and they was like, bro, you was a writer, director, ad, and you was managing all the talent and you was doing all that shit yourself. He was like, you know, that's like four different jobs. Niggas get paid to do everything you did today. And so I was like, oh, okay, cool. He was like, if you gonna keep doing it like that, just make that's on your resume. You know how to do all this shit.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

But I also was like supervisor at a chemical plant before. And when you working them jobs like that where you managing people in different departments, you need to know how to do everybody job. Because if one of them lay out, you gotta step up.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Cause it's like blue collar work. Like you can't be. You gonna get your hands dirty. It is what it is, you know. But I think a lot of people, especially in the content creation space, want something from this shit, but don't wanna do it. Cause it's like now that I'm doing it full time, I realize like, damn, shit really is a gig though. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

It's so much work. I talk to so many people a day.

[A]

I was gonna say that's the one thing I think that I. I think that every job is work, but in a different way, obviously. Like, I did retail heavy. Like I was a naughty girl down and I spent like them 8, 9, 10 hour shifts. Were you on your feet all day? Like, damn, I'm hella tired. But also when we. That day we recorded like three episodes. We did two here. We went on Lou and then I was. I was like.

[B]

We didn't wrap that day until almost.

[A]

2Am I'm tired as I've been talking all day. Yeah. I don't have shit else to say.

[C]

Oh, God. And then also too, there is like a. There's this feeling of like, responsibility to keep everybody entertained and staying on the street.

[B]

So. Yeah. So you have to be on. I have to give you a joke.

[C]

Yeah. Because also because like one thing, when we was in LA, we was doing like 12 to 14 hour days every day. And it's like, man, by that 10th hour, but we still got shit to do.

[B]

Start getting a little numb.

[C]

And then also too, niggas, you start to see it in the room. Niggas start to get like.

[A]

Yeah, I see why was doing coke.

[C]

I do too.

[A]

Yeah, I need to stay up.

[C]

They needed that also too. I just need to feel like this is something. This is something. Because it's like we in the same. A movie set is crazy because it's.

[B]

Literally the same and it's so many more people.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And it's. It could be so much. But that's why you got to get people who are. Who see the vision. Because some people don't want to do those long hours unless they know what's going. You know what I'm saying? It's going to turn into this.

[C]

Yeah. Also too. It's not. It's not always guaranteed that it's going to hit or. Or that you gonna make the money that you want.

[B]

This may never see the light of day. That's what people don't know that I've done that has never seen a light of day.

[C]

Music artists understand that too. Y' all record so much music that nobody never gonna hear.

[B]

Ain't. Nope.

[C]

And. But. But it's also like. It's like everything else. It's like putting the reps up. Like, we don't record it. We don't recorded hella episodes that never came out. And it is for one reason or the other. But like sometimes just creative differences, like, I don't like it. And Big kept like, nah, it's good. I'd be like, I don't fucking like it. I don't Want it to come out. And then there's been episodes where he just like, this ain't it, we ain't doing it. And so it's like, yeah, bruh, it's a whole thing. I mean, I would not rather be doing anything else. I'm gonna say that for sure. But I think I came in very like, bright eyed and bushy tailed. And like, as things progress and as you see like the reality behind what this shit is and the process and all the red tape that come along with certain shit.

[A]

And also I feel like content creation was not like a. I didn't start tiktoking to make it my career.

[C]

Oh, God. Oh, God.

[A]

I feel like I didn't really have an expectation of like it turning out like this or even ending up in this place. So every step that has been like, oh my God, I make the joke like, bitch, I worked for my money today. Because it's like I would have never thought that this took all this.

[C]

That's real though, because like, I never, I was never in my truck recording. Like, this is gonna get me out the truck. Yeah, I was just like, shit, y' all on here making videos. I'm gonna make videos too. I got shit to say. I got opinions, literally. I got thoughts, you know? And then it's like two years later, like, the fuck.

[A]

God damn.

[C]

What the fuck?

[A]

You bitches been hated me.

[C]

Fuck. Fuck am I doing it? Like, bruh, like, I'm telling you, when we. The la shit is the thing that changed my perspective on everything because it showed me what it. What the real process of production is. How many hands and eyes gotta see this before it becomes something. But also it showed me how to create a pilot. And then also, like, it's out here with ungodly money, bro. Like, had us in the $3 million. You remember that house in that view?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I'm looking out that.

[B]

I'm like, bro, did you say that.

[A]

Was on my video talking about Deontay got you in Hidden Hills. He got any snow bunnies in there? I said, there's no bunnies. I'm the lightest thing in here.

[C]

No, we don't do the bunnies.

[A]

I said, y' all should not play with him.

[B]

I know he don't bunny hop. Please.

[C]

They funny as hell. I was so drunken when you.

[A]

And if you, if you watch that video back, you can hear you yelling. And they was in the comments like, deontay, loud ass drunken.

[B]

I watched. I'm like, what were we yelling at on the balcony? I don't even know.

[C]

I don't even know what the conversation was.

[B]

Walked in.

[C]

That's me. You want to know where you're at? Hey, just, just listen for a minute because if he's been drinking, you're going to hear.

[A]

I feel like I was yelling at.

[C]

On Tick Tock Live last night.

[A]

I used to drink wine and do that.

[C]

I was drinking espalon crazy ginger beer.

[A]

What? Like, what is up with ginger beer? You really like it?

[C]

It's amazing. It's refreshing. This is my issue.

[A]

It's good.

[C]

Okay. This is the thing.

[B]

It's a boy thing. I don't know.

[C]

Boy.

[B]

I have a little ginger beer.

[C]

Solid, solid, solid. After you've been drinking, you need a refresher. You need something that makes you feel like coconut water is somewhere, but it has a bite.

[B]

I have a ginger but.

[C]

Okay, so look, this is my issue with ginger ale and soda in general. Nine out of ten, it's gonna just water it down. And then ginger ale, when it gets like a little flat cause it's mixed with alcohol, becomes a sweet thing. I don't like drinking sweet shit. But the ginger beer keeps. It stays very potent.

[B]

Okay, so I do have a question. Okay, this is very sincere.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Is ginger beer alcoholic?

[C]

No.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

No. That's a great question.

[A]

No, ginger beer, I never knew it's a drink.

[C]

No, it's a non alcoholic.

[B]

When I tasted it, it was nasty. So I thought it was alcoholic.

[C]

No, no, no.

[B]

And I ain't like it.

[C]

It's just a refreshment, actually. Unreal refreshment.

[A]

I'm a ginger ale shorty down, so I'm interested.

[C]

I love a ginger ale. I love a cold ginger ale crisp. I don't like it with alcohol.

[A]

No, I don't. I don't like any carbonated with alcohol.

[C]

So this is why, this is why I like ginger beel. Because it is carbonated. But it, it keeps, it'll keep the fizz.

[A]

Keeps the fizz doesn't die. That's why I don't like the fizz. Because it's gonna fall flat.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you gotta, you know, you gotta have a lot of ice and you gotta prepare, you know, it's a vibe. So then we get to the point of the live where I. Where I'm listening to Lil Wayne. Oh, and because you know, they just dropped all his mixtapes, Some of his mixtapes. And I'm like, you fuck niggas. Wasn't outside.

[B]

You are new.

[C]

You wasn't in the hallway rapping these lyrics.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, that ain't got autism. I remember when little way I was really. I was unking hard. Last night, I was uning. I was unking hard, and I got my dream. Like, y' all don't know nothing about.

[B]

This 06 way big T shirt. You was there SL socks.

[A]

I remember when started getting them face tattoos and was like, is he okay?

[C]

No. That's clearly a sign of danger, trouble, mental health issues. Because for some reason, people that killed people like to tattoo their face.

[A]

Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah.

[B]

And it was, like, a thing.

[A]

I remember when he started changing a little bit.

[C]

Hey, if anybody know, it's him. His city is famous for tattooing the face.

[A]

Oh, yes. New Orleans.

[B]

It'd be like, I didn't kill. We had a whole conversation about, you killed three.

[A]

That's fun.

[B]

Okay. That's expressive. And you ain't tell them no.

[A]

Type.

[C]

Type is one of the best.

[A]

I love. It just makes sense, to be honest.

[B]

I love boy lingo. It's fun, it's lucrative, it's. It's tasteful. It just. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

You guys, there is a trade off of black lingo. Like, boy lingo versus girl lingo. Because I ain't gonna lie. This little shit right here, it's my favorite. It's my favorite thing to do in private.

[B]

I be like, okay, can I teach you how to do it properly? Cause the boys keep doing. It's here.

[C]

Oh, it's these three.

[B]

It's Middleman.

[C]

Do I gotta have the whole thing up?

[B]

Just clap.

[A]

Just however it feels comfortable.

[C]

Look, I knew I was in. When I was in Jackson and we was doing a live show, I know I was spitting. Cause Mecca was like. She kept hitting that. I said, well, I'm spitting right now. Yeah. Shout out. JSU did. How was. How was that experience? I haven't.

[A]

It was really inspiring.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We actually referenced it a lot, especially with us, like we said, planning our own live show. Yeah, it's one of the only. I. I listen to podcasts before this, and I've watched videos of live shows of the podcast I listen to. But that's the only, like, podcast live show I've been to in person.

[B]

Same. So I felt like it was. It was very intimate, and I like that. And it was very, like, I could tell everybody in there with you because everybody was paying attention. It was like a real. Because, you know, you didn't even have a microphone, and so you gotta really listen when the nigga ain't got no mic, you know what I mean? And it was just, it was a really good experience. And I like that you did it kind of early on, you know what I'm saying? Because obviously if you could do it now, you could sell out a bigger space for sure. But doing it when it was still at the come up then to do it in a black ass city like Jackson, I just all the things, it kind of worked well.

[A]

It was really well thought out on your end, like, even down to choosing Jackson as a city to do it.

[B]

Having the vendors out there.

[A]

The vendors, like, it was very well thought out.

[B]

Had your merch propped.

[A]

I was going to say, this is really well done.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

Niggas is.

[C]

Yeah, I think it created a standard for me.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But you know what? Honestly, we was talking to center stage and you know, their, their mid floor probably holds about three to 500. And I was like, I don't, I don't want to do that. Not yet.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I want to keep it intimate.

[A]

Yeah. Honestly. And for context, you what, you had like 50 to 75 chairs out, but then there was standing, There was standing room only.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So then you had a whole wall full of people who were just standing.

[C]

It was probably about another 30. It was like 100 people.

[A]

It's easily 100 people in the space. But it was very intimate because of like, what you're talking about. So I think, and I was telling, I was telling Jamila this too. I would want ours, like our first joint to be like somewhat intimate because you really felt the love in the room. You really was like, these niggas fuck with this nigga.

[C]

Yeah. I think. And it took me a little while to kind of get over my own nerves. But once I kind of like, I kept listening to this dude that was talking about public speaking the day of because I was kind of like getting in my own way. And he was like, if you have something important to say, then silence is your best friend. If you up there telling jokes, silence is an enemy. But if you really saying something, silence is your best friend. Because, you know, they listening.

[A]

It was like, and it was silent.

[C]

As it was quiet in that bitch. And so, like, when I, I, I, I was looking, I, I needed some interaction to kind of get myself comfortable. But once I noticed, like, oh, it's quiet in here, I was all, I'm finna pop my shit.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And so, but I think that being a catalyst for, like, how to recreate that, especially with y' all and like, the people that y' all do be with and y' all fan base going Intimate out the gate. It does create, like, an exclusivity to it, but also, like, you could really go out and talk and touch these people that support you. You know what I'm saying? In a real way. And that's my mentality towards it. So when we do our live. Next live show in September, I want y' all to come, but absolutely, we gonna do. Maybe I don't give my sauce away on, but. Yeah, yeah, maybe I don't get our sauce away because take my.

[B]

They will.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. They like to take it and then.

[B]

Say, I want you to have your proper rollout. So, you know, but we. Whatever. The cameras go down. I do want to know your business.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, I wanna. I mean, we could rap. This is. Oh, we could. I could talk to y' all for hours. We literally. This really just ain't no podcast. This is just us chopping it up. Like, we were doing this.

[A]

There was no structure.

[B]

And then want to reset and then do a little ending.

[C]

Yeah, that's fine. I mean, we could rap info. Yeah, yeah, we could reset.

[B]

Because I actually think that that was 35 minutes. It was. Yeah.

[C]

So, yeah, that's why I was keeping.

[B]

My eye on it. Yeah.

[C]

Okay. All right, y' all let me know when it's rolling.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Before we wrap, though, if. If y'. All. What you. What do y' all got, like, up next? Like, of course, let's. Let's plug Unhinged tomorrow. Let know when it dropped. But also, like, what's next for Megan Jamila?

[B]

Well, for Unhinged, Immoral, I guess, promo stuff. We got a lot of really dope interviews coming out and we're gonna work in this week. Yeah, we're transitioning to more of an in person vibe, so that's something that we're working on. Of course, we have the Patreon, which is going to allow you to do early access to our drops. Anything merch related, anything that we have, we'll. We'll put on there new episodes every Thursday. And that's. We do have merch available too, on his.

[A]

Also designs. She designs.

[B]

She's amazing.

[A]

We love Sookie.

[B]

Yeah. Go to unhingedmore.com to get you some merch and do all that. But as far as what's coming up.

[A]

Next for us individually, so since we're moving to be more in person, like, that's why I'm actually in Atlanta this week. We've been recording mad episodes, so we're batched out. We also, like, kind of done like a mini podcast Tour. So obviously, we're on Chris and Eggs right now. We've done some more. I'll be splitting time between Atlanta and Houston, so I'm looking for, like, a little. Little place to be put up out here. So I think that'll create a space for us to do our shit, but then do our shit individually, because I don't want to be boxed into just podcasting. Like, when we started this, I was like, I want this to be what kind of funds us on our individual endeavors.

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

I would like to get into acting. Obviously, Atlanta is a place for that. I would like to get into any type of comedy, any type of hosting, just being the media space. I like. Like, I literally told Lou on the podcast of the day when he asked us who. If you could pick a celebrity that you, like, admire and want to be, like, who is it? And I said, Queen Latifah, because she's, like, has never boxed herself in. She came in rapping, she's acted. She's a cover girl. She sings, like, she does all the things, and she just did it. So it's like, that's kind of how I see myself and where I want to take it.

[C]

That's real. That was the inspiration behind the merch.

[A]

Yeah. You and I t y like, we're. Queen Latifah stands down. We love Dana.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

As far as me, of course, always want to do film and tv. That's like my. My heart, you know, all things production in that way. So I'm actually in the process of writing a film, so if all things go well, which they will, because everything I've ever said has come to fruition, then we can start production on that next year. And I've dived headfirst into music management, and I actually really love it. I did not think I would like it. I thought it was going to be something that was, like, just so left field for me that I was going to be kind of, like, a little frustrated with, but I really, really enjoy it. I've always loved music in general, you know, come. Came up through actually, like, musical theater and. And singing myself. But I never really wanted to be in music in that way. That's just not my ministry. But music is a passion of mine, and I love being on the. The back end of it. I like being able to kind of bridge. Bridge people together. Being the creative director and bringing those images to life. That's something that I really enjoy. So pushing that heavily, getting back into film. Yeah, I just want to be on tv, you know, you know, they got.

[A]

On there and said, mecca and Jamila just want to be famous. And.

[C]

God damn it.

[A]

God damn it. Now, what a great assessment you got me.

[C]

Yeah, well, I mean, everybody wants something, you know what I'm saying? Just like the people that say that want your attention, so. Two Way street, baby. All right, man. I appreciate y' all for pulling up, though, because I think anytime that. I think the dynamic of y' all being together to do the podcast is much better because the virtual thing, there's like a lag and there's.

[B]

Yeah, it's only. It's only can take you. But so far, and I think that we have reached that point where it. It got us where we needed to be. And because we really wanted to start bringing in guests and interviewing stuff, I'm very like, I need to be in person. You know what I'm saying? It just feels a lot different. And we've tried. We've done some interviews online, and although they were good, I know they would have been ten times better.

[C]

Yeah, you can't feel the person. And then also too, like, there's just so many things that can. Like, there's so much. There's so much reading that you do in person that you can, like, bounce off of each other. Energy and.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Virtually, it's just like. It's a lot of flat spaces in there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But, yeah, you're not, you know, y' all know the door open for y' all anytime y' all want to pull up. And we could just keep running this cross pollination over.

[A]

We love it.

[B]

Don't do that anyway.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

I didn't need permission.

[A]

You see, I was. I threw that dreaded wig on, took that sound a new cut, nigga.

[C]

Yeah, that's lit. Episode 81.

[A]

That's a rhyme.

[C]

It's a rap.

[B]

Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. Just. Cause we ain't no boy, we can't get no music question. I don't like that.

[A]

Oh, yeah. And I was trying to transition. That's when I was like, let me play Asa's freestyle.

[C]

What is the.

[B]

What music question you be asking the boys music questions?

[A]

Ask me about like a girl rapper or something.

[B]

Ask me to spit a 16.

[A]

Know a couple niggas that's down the ride for Homicide. When it's drama time.

[B]

I too know.

[C]

All right, well, so that was episode 81. This is back in Jameela. Yeah, these, these, we're all friends now, and we also have some of the best podcasts out, so stop listening to weak ass podcast just cause you're familiar with it. And tap into something new.

[B]

Period.

[C]

Episode 81, Unhinged.

[A]

Tomorrow.

[B]

See y' all later. Wonderful.