Grits and Eggs Podcast – Episode 84: "Umbrella of Capitalism"

Host: Deante’ Kyle
Co-Host: Big Ice Cub
Date: September 10, 2025
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Episode Overview

In Episode 84 of Grits and Eggs, Deante’ Kyle returns from a week off due to the flu for a candid, far-ranging conversation covering pop culture, Black health and business, current events, hip-hop culture, capitalism and community, with Big Ice Cub riding shotgun. The show blends humor with insight on Black American experience, centering on the ways capitalism informs community and individualism, the state of hip-hop, and the necessity of solidarity and care.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Post-Flu Catch-Up and Community Shoutouts

• Deante’ discusses recovering from the flu and missing important collaborations (01:16–02:39).
• Announcements about podcast business: website simplification, exclusive merch drops, and call-in info for voicemails (02:41–03:42).
• Shout-outs to FUBU, appreciation for Black-owned brands (05:01–05:19).
• Lighthearted banter about health, working out, and personal transformation goals (07:39–10:14).

2. Black-Owned Businesses, Health, and Dental Hygiene

• Endorsement of Eastside Dental (run by Dr. Devontae Johnson) for its working-class, Black-owned, late-night accessible dental care (10:16–12:47).
• Extended riff on the importance of oral and heart health in Black communities, cultural differences in hygiene, and historic roots of stereotypes (12:59–15:26).
• Memorable, humorous breakdown of why traditions like bridal bouquets and perfume were rooted in hiding poor hygiene:
  • “But you getting married, you know what I'm saying? So get the flowers so we can master smell. Same thing with perfume.” – Deante’ (15:27)

3. Resisting Shame and Embracing Black Culture

• Discussion of food stereotypes, cultural shaming, and the origins/future of “chicken and watermelon” as economic empowerment, not shame (16:19–17:19).
• The tendency of white culture to project negative stereotypes, attitude towards Black innovation and joy (17:19–18:19).

4. Hip-Hop, Street Codes, and Culture

• Extended segment on the criminal justice system, Young Thug’s legal trouble, jail/prison realities, and the evolving role of 'street culture' in hip-hop (22:06–29:09).
• Notable commentary on “snitching”, street code obsolescence, and the argument that hip-hop needs a return to intelligent, socially responsible roots:
  • “We should look at rappers who portray street images, gangster images as characters. This is a character. It's like wrestling. This is just... kayfabe. This ain't real.” – Deante’ (29:44)
  • “We need an intelligent movement in hip hop… and they bastardized it with this thug shit. And like I'm telling you, bro, it's only right that the young thug is the person that do away with it.” – Deante’ (31:00–31:30)
• Praise for classic albums/artists representing true hip-hop values: Most Def’s Black on Both Sides, Jay-Z, Scarface, Common, Outkast, Missy Elliott, Fugees, etc. (35:30–38:46).
• Critique of “degen” rap and call for a return to creativity and diversity in hip-hop (37:42; 39:12–40:07).

5. Pop Culture: Drewski’s Whiteface & White Cultural Critique

• Reflection on comedian Drewski’s satirical “whiteface,” comparing reactions to historical blackface and cultural norms in Black and white communities (41:08–43:47).
• Social commentary about the normalization of “NASCAR whites” in America’s landscape versus polished media portrayals:
  • “America is comprised of all those cities that you don't see.” – Deante’ (44:19)
• Memories of working and interacting in small-town, rural white communities—contrasting realities, substance misuse, and overlooked poverty dynamics (44:19–45:24).
• Drewski praised as uniquely skilled at observing and mirroring both Black and white American subcultures (45:55–47:48).

6. Capitalism, Individualism, and Community

• Central segment: how capitalism erodes communal values, commodifies biological instincts (esp. reproduction), and transforms business/service from communal to exploitative (48:25–66:14).
• Government bailouts explained as “the working class funding corporate risk,” with critiques of language that obfuscates who pays:
  • “It’s your corporate dollars that push forward most things that progress. Billionaires… use our taxpayer dollars, they use our labor to fund their endeavors.” – Deante’ (49:24–50:00)
• Examples of loss of communal focus in Black barbershops, salons, and service business—contrasted with earlier traditions of shared magazines/space and respect for elders (61:10–68:49).
• Call to restore generosity, thoughtfulness, and respect for elders—“Decency is bidded out to opportunity instead of a formality. Just be a decent person.” – Deante’ (70:03–71:00).

7. Building Community: Rejecting Hyper-Individualism

• Deante’ advocates for community-minded business, philanthropy, using personal and collective resources to help the less fortunate (free haircuts, coat drives, etc) (77:24–78:11).
• “This is a thing of us restoring our humanity outside of this system. …you can benefit in capitalism, but have a socialist agenda with your people.” – Deante’ (78:11)
• Preview of upcoming live show, encouraging listeners to engage in real-life community and mutual aid (76:48–77:44).

8. Advice & Listener Q&A

• Advice segments from listener call-ins and emails—including family ancestry, relationship struggles, domestic abuse, closure, and self-respect. The hosts approach each caller with empathy, humor, and candor.
• On finding family via DNA testing:
  • “If it’s worth it to you, then it’s worth it. …He may find a relative that knows everything.” – Deante’ (84:11–85:19)
• On Black women's protection and protest in Texas—Deante’ cites State Rep. Nicole Collier’s protest and the crucial need to show up for Black women (87:26–88:24).
• On solutions for Black progress: reject calls for violence, focus on building community and intergenerational love:
  • “The revolution is love. The idea of bloodshed is a European mindset.” – Deante’ (91:13)
• Advice for men in abusive and financially draining relationships: “If you need to file bankruptcy in a relationship, it’s time to file bankruptcy on that relationship. That relationship is bankrupt.” – Deante’ (97:19–100:15)
• Overarching advice re: relationships, dignity, and healing: “A relationship ending doesn’t mean you wasted time. It means you got experience. You know what to do, you know what not to do.” – Deante’ (104:54)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We should look at rappers who portray street images, gangster images as characters. This is a character. It's like wrestling. This is just... kayfabe. This ain't real.” – Deante’ Kyle (29:44)
• “Decency is bidded out to opportunity instead of a formality. Just be a decent person. …That’s the way we turn things around.” – Deante’ Kyle (70:03)
• “If you need to file bankruptcy in a relationship, it’s time to file bankruptcy on that relationship. That relationship is bankrupt.” – Deante’ Kyle (100:15)
• “The revolution is love. The idea of bloodshed is a European mindset.” – Deante’ Kyle (91:13)
• “If you’re a true giver, can’t nobody take nothing from you. Only thing they can do is remove themselves from your life. And that’s their loss.” – Deante’ Kyle (81:30)
• “Play the game so you know how. Learn the game, play the game, break the rules. And breaking the rules don’t always mean doing something illegal; breaking the rules mean look out for people.” – Deante’ Kyle (78:11–78:45)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:41] – Announcements on business, exclusive merch, call-ins
• [10:16] – Eastside Dental shoutout, importance of Black health
• [16:19] – Examining food stereotypes, economic empowerment
• [22:06] – Hip-hop, street code, Young Thug legal analysis
• [35:30] – Celebrating hip-hop classics and diversity
• [41:08–47:48] – On Drewski’s “whiteface” and white American subcultures
• [48:25–66:14] – Capitalism, individualism, and community critique
• [70:03] – On decorum, decency, and rejecting hyper-individualism
• [76:48] – Live show/meetup community announcement
• [84:11] – Advice segment: finding biological family
• [87:26] – Protecting Black women: Texas protest
• [91:13] – Rejecting calls for violence, 'revolution is love'
• [97:19] – Toxic/abusive relationships, advice for men

Tone and Language

This episode is a characteristic blend of humor, cultural insight, and unvarnished truth. The banter between Deante’ Kyle and Big Ice Cub is lively, irreverent, and deeply rooted in Black communal experience. The language is direct, playful, at times raw, and always authentic; advice and opinions flow with a mix of streetwise pragmatism and philosophical reflection.

Final Thoughts

Deante’ and Big Ice Cub’s wide-ranging discussion brings into focus the umbrella of capitalism that covers—and too often divides—Black American community, culture, and creativity. They challenge listeners to rethink individualism, honor elders, value communal tradition over hyper-consumption, and use personal success not just for self, but to uplift the collective.

"Take care of yourselves and take care of each other." – Deante’ Kyle (109:54)

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