Grits and Eggs Podcast – Episode 86: "Sweet Face Killa"

Host: Deante’ Kyle
Co-Host: Big Ice Cup
Date: September 23, 2025

Episode Overview

Episode 86 of the Grits and Eggs Podcast, titled "Sweet Face Killa," is another raw, unfiltered, and laughter-filled conversation between host Deante’ Kyle and recurring co-host Big Ice Cup. The episode covers a mix of serious and comedic topics, from pop culture and current events to deeper discussions about race, media independence, police violence, black community resilience, personal advice requests, and the importance of integrity both in media and personal life. The show is punctuated by witty banter, memorable quotes, pointed critiques of society, a critical examination of black authenticity, and honest listener advice sessions.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Show Kickoff, Announcements & Merch Talk (00:05–07:00)

• Deante’ opens with a poetic monologue about his Southern roots, family, and blessings.
• The co-host lineup introduces themselves with jokes—Big Ice Cup calls himself “Sweet Face Killa.”
• The hosts plug various podcast updates:
  • All inquiries and advice should go to the new site and email addresses.
  • Merch (notably “Kumbay Coffee Shop” shirts—joking about their unique “kvassier latte”).
  • Upcoming Atlanta show sold out in 6 hours; next event planned for "Friendsgiving" at Atlantucky (Nappy Roots' brewery).
• Patreon updates: Subscribers get bonus episodes, Q&As, merch, Discord access, and early event tickets.
• Quote: "Hey, look, I can lead you to water. I can't make you drink." – Deante’ Kyle (02:27)

2. Community & Black Business Shout-Outs (11:54–13:44)

• Eastside Dental Group and Dr. Devontae Johnson are praised for catering to working-class Black Americans.
• Emphasis on feeling at home and comfortable in Black-owned businesses.

3. Pop Culture, Gang Culture & Media Representation (14:00–16:40)

• Satirical discussion about gang culture’s appeal outside of violence (“hella handshakes,” cookouts, color coordination).
• Commentary on how Black American culture is communicated through nonverbal signals:
  • "This is Black American sign language." – Deante’ Kyle (16:24)
• Reflection on feeling out of place for not knowing “what to do with your hands” in photos; gang gestures become a Black cultural inside joke.

4. Late Night TV Cancellations & The Fight for Free Speech (16:40–29:42)

• Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert cancellations:
  • Deante’ criticizes what he sees as politically motivated censorship and an "overreach of presidential power."
  • Quote: "If you cannot criticize the president without threat, then you do not have freedom of speech. Right. Freedom of speech is you can say anything to anybody at any given time, so long as it doesn't have threatened physical." (17:47)
  • Differentiates between public opinion canceling (healthy democracy) and state/corporate censorship (tyranny).
  • Satirical comparison of Charlie Kirk to "Beavis and Butthead."
  • AI and propaganda: Critique of artificially sanitizing right-wing figures (e.g., AI videos of Charlie Kirk in churches).
• The impact of algorithmic censorship on platforms like TikTok; the growing need for independent Black media and personal websites/Substacks.
• Urges content creators to own their platforms to avoid de-platforming and control their narratives.

5. Independent Media, Black Liberation & Corporate Media Critique (29:43–38:06)

• Deante’ calls for independent, unbiased Black media to counteract both left- and right-wing disinformation.
• Criticizes both corporate and right-wing media for pushing white supremacist narratives (e.g., Charlie Kirk's posthumous canonization).
• Advocates for using websites, Substack, and direct audience integration for longevity and safety as a content creator.
• Quote: "The importance of independent media is unless these niggas have make my on YouTube, take my page down, I can say whatever the fuck I want because I own this shit." – Deante’ Kyle (25:30)

6. Racism, Lynching, and Black Self-Defense (38:07–53:59)

• Detailed critique of the disparity in media coverage between Charlie Kirk’s assassination and the lynching of Trey Reid in Mississippi.
• Historic context: Lynchings as a tool to instill fear; collusion between sheriffs and coroners in covering up racial violence.
• Praises Colin Kaepernick for funding an independent autopsy for Trey Reid.
• Criticism of corporate hypocrisy: NFL bans political demonstrations for Black issues, but embraces those for right-wing agendas.
• Strong case for Black gun ownership: NAGA (National African American Gun Association) as an example.
  • "If you want to see gun laws change and black people get armed, I guarantee you they’ll change the laws." (44:21)
• Urging Black communities to be resilient, organized, and prepared—psychologically and physically.

7. Community Empowerment & Respecting Black History (53:59–57:43)

• The need for Black Americans to return to and invest in the South, strengthen Black communities, self-fund, and learn from past successes in resistance (not just trauma).
• Critiques of the younger generation’s disconnect from ancestral resilience:
  • "You ain’t your fucking ancestors... When them people in Montgomery, Alabama boycotted that bus system for two years because it was bigger than their fucking convenience." – Deante’ Kyle (55:52)
  • Rebukes the disrespect of earlier generations and calls for renewed courage.

8. Pop Culture Analysis: Channing Crowder, Masculinity, and Homophobia (59:10–73:51)

• Critiques Channing Crowder (NFL player, podcaster) for his comments about Russell Wilson and being a “lame”—calling out Black masculinity tropes and homophobia.
• Jokes about Crowder’s obsession with Mike Tyson’s body during interviews, poking fun at double standards.
• Deep dive into toxic masculinity and “the trenches” mentality, infantilization of Black men, and misplaced values.
• Endorses Russell Wilson as a model—“the kind of Black man you’d want your kids to emulate”—versus the problematic “cool” icons.

9. Relationship, Advice, and Listener Q&A (82:42–104:27)

• Notable Voicemails/Emails:
  • A caller asks about knowing when to take a leap of faith (Army vs. music): Deante’ and Big Ice Cup advise confidence is key and sometimes you need to “play it safe.”
    • "When your leap is riddled with doubt, this is just my own personal opinion and my experience, times that I’ve caught myself taking a leap of faith... and I knew that it wasn’t really a leap of faith, that it was a leap of failure, I was riddled with doubt." – Deante’ Kyle (83:30)
  • A woman asks about her “blackness” being questioned for being quiet and into art:
    • Affirmation that Blackness is diverse, calls to reject “Black policing,” and points out that actual traitors to the community aren’t always light-skinned or soft-spoken.
    • "Don’t let anybody question your blackness...because if that was the case, then we wouldn’t have no Angela Davis...Bob Marley." – Deante’ Kyle (91:53)
  • A young man wants to “change his uncle’s mind” about anti-immigrant views despite his own immigrant background. The hosts advise him to stop arguing and let reality be the teacher.
  • Classic "best friends turning into lovers" scenario—the hosts advise patience, self-work, and playing it cool for a potential future relationship.
  • Middle-aged teacher feels torn between pursuing rap or teaching; the hosts passionately advocate for the high impact teachers have, dismissing the myth of rap as a path to “the real bag.”
    • "Be a teacher...You already living your dream." – Deante’ Kyle (103:21)
    • "You going to have much more of an impact in that classroom than you ever will in that motherfucking booth." (103:17)

10. Wrapping Up: Announcements, Shoutouts & Running Jokes (104:31–end)

• Episode wrap: Shout-outs for sponsors, new merch, and event reminders.
• Playful banter about billionaire rappers (Jay-Z), hip hop lawsuits (Meg Thee Stallion), and fashion choices (merse vs. purse).
• Concludes with enthusiastic appreciation for the audience and hype for upcoming episodes and guests (Stephen Dingle).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "If you cannot criticize the president without threat, then you do not have freedom of speech." (17:47) – Deante’
• On independent media: "I can say whatever the fuck I want because I own this shit." (25:30) – Deante’
• On Black resilience: "You ain’t your fucking ancestors. ... You made excuses on why you wouldn’t boycott Gucci." (55:52) – Deante’**
• On masculinity: "You gotta undo your homophobia. You gotta undo your misogyny...Grown men don’t operate like that." (64:23, 64:43)**
• On self-worth and authenticity: "Don’t let anybody question your blackness... we need diversity in our community, and we’re gonna need coalition in our community." (91:49) – Deante’**
• Listener encouragement: "Be a teacher. ... You going to have much more of an impact in that classroom than you ever will in that motherfucking booth." (103:17) – Deante’**

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:05–07:00 – Show opening, monologue, merch & event announcements
• 13:44–16:06 – Reflections on pop/gang culture and "Black American sign language"
• 16:40–29:42 – Late night TV censorship, importance of independent Black media
• 38:07–53:59 – Racism, lynchings, Black self-defense, history lessons
• 53:59–57:43 – Community empowerment & remembering real Black history
• 59:10–73:51 – Channing Crowder, masculinity, Russell Wilson vs. Future debate
• 82:42–104:27 – Listener voicemails/emails, leap of faith advice, blackness authenticity
• 104:31–end – Episode wrap up, jokes, and shout-outs

Tone & Style

The episode features the show’s trademark blend of:

• Humor: Satirical takes, playful jabs at each other and celebrities, inside jokes about “sweet face killa,” and Black American culture.
• Seriousness: Honest, heartfelt engagement with issues affecting Black America and the podcast community.
• Community-Focused: Advocacy for Black businesses, safety, financial empowerment, media independence, and personal growth.

Summary for New Listeners:
This episode is a quintessential Grits and Eggs experience—equal parts playful and profound. Deante’ and Big Ice Cup navigate serious subjects like censorship, racial violence, and Black resilience, all the while roasting each other, analyzing pop culture, and giving practical, street-smart advice to listeners. It’s a lesson in Black history, a call to action for independent voices, and a love letter to community—all rolled into one hilarious, irreverent package.