Episode 86 - Sweet Face Killa

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast – Episode 86: "Sweet Face Killa"

Host: Deante’ Kyle
Co-Host: Big Ice Cup
Date: September 23, 2025

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Episode Overview

Episode 86 of the Grits and Eggs Podcast, titled "Sweet Face Killa," is another raw, unfiltered, and laughter-filled conversation between host Deante’ Kyle and recurring co-host Big Ice Cup. The episode covers a mix of serious and comedic topics, from pop culture and current events to deeper discussions about race, media independence, police violence, black community resilience, personal advice requests, and the importance of integrity both in media and personal life. The show is punctuated by witty banter, memorable quotes, pointed critiques of society, a critical examination of black authenticity, and honest listener advice sessions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Show Kickoff, Announcements & Merch Talk (00:05–07:00)

• Deante’ opens with a poetic monologue about his Southern roots, family, and blessings.
• The co-host lineup introduces themselves with jokes—Big Ice Cup calls himself “Sweet Face Killa.”
• The hosts plug various podcast updates:
  • All inquiries and advice should go to the new site and email addresses.
  • Merch (notably “Kumbay Coffee Shop” shirts—joking about their unique “kvassier latte”).
  • Upcoming Atlanta show sold out in 6 hours; next event planned for "Friendsgiving" at Atlantucky (Nappy Roots' brewery).
• Patreon updates: Subscribers get bonus episodes, Q&As, merch, Discord access, and early event tickets.
• Quote: "Hey, look, I can lead you to water. I can't make you drink." – Deante’ Kyle (02:27)

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2. Community & Black Business Shout-Outs (11:54–13:44)

• Eastside Dental Group and Dr. Devontae Johnson are praised for catering to working-class Black Americans.
• Emphasis on feeling at home and comfortable in Black-owned businesses.

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3. Pop Culture, Gang Culture & Media Representation (14:00–16:40)

• Satirical discussion about gang culture’s appeal outside of violence (“hella handshakes,” cookouts, color coordination).
• Commentary on how Black American culture is communicated through nonverbal signals:
  • "This is Black American sign language." – Deante’ Kyle (16:24)
• Reflection on feeling out of place for not knowing “what to do with your hands” in photos; gang gestures become a Black cultural inside joke.

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4. Late Night TV Cancellations & The Fight for Free Speech (16:40–29:42)

• Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert cancellations:
  • Deante’ criticizes what he sees as politically motivated censorship and an "overreach of presidential power."
  • Quote: "If you cannot criticize the president without threat, then you do not have freedom of speech. Right. Freedom of speech is you can say anything to anybody at any given time, so long as it doesn't have threatened physical." (17:47)
  • Differentiates between public opinion canceling (healthy democracy) and state/corporate censorship (tyranny).
  • Satirical comparison of Charlie Kirk to "Beavis and Butthead."
  • AI and propaganda: Critique of artificially sanitizing right-wing figures (e.g., AI videos of Charlie Kirk in churches).
• The impact of algorithmic censorship on platforms like TikTok; the growing need for independent Black media and personal websites/Substacks.
• Urges content creators to own their platforms to avoid de-platforming and control their narratives.

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5. Independent Media, Black Liberation & Corporate Media Critique (29:43–38:06)

• Deante’ calls for independent, unbiased Black media to counteract both left- and right-wing disinformation.
• Criticizes both corporate and right-wing media for pushing white supremacist narratives (e.g., Charlie Kirk's posthumous canonization).
• Advocates for using websites, Substack, and direct audience integration for longevity and safety as a content creator.
• Quote: "The importance of independent media is unless these niggas have make my on YouTube, take my page down, I can say whatever the fuck I want because I own this shit." – Deante’ Kyle (25:30)

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6. Racism, Lynching, and Black Self-Defense (38:07–53:59)

• Detailed critique of the disparity in media coverage between Charlie Kirk’s assassination and the lynching of Trey Reid in Mississippi.
• Historic context: Lynchings as a tool to instill fear; collusion between sheriffs and coroners in covering up racial violence.
• Praises Colin Kaepernick for funding an independent autopsy for Trey Reid.
• Criticism of corporate hypocrisy: NFL bans political demonstrations for Black issues, but embraces those for right-wing agendas.
• Strong case for Black gun ownership: NAGA (National African American Gun Association) as an example.
  • "If you want to see gun laws change and black people get armed, I guarantee you they’ll change the laws." (44:21)
• Urging Black communities to be resilient, organized, and prepared—psychologically and physically.

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7. Community Empowerment & Respecting Black History (53:59–57:43)

• The need for Black Americans to return to and invest in the South, strengthen Black communities, self-fund, and learn from past successes in resistance (not just trauma).
• Critiques of the younger generation’s disconnect from ancestral resilience:
  • "You ain’t your fucking ancestors... When them people in Montgomery, Alabama boycotted that bus system for two years because it was bigger than their fucking convenience." – Deante’ Kyle (55:52)
  • Rebukes the disrespect of earlier generations and calls for renewed courage.

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8. Pop Culture Analysis: Channing Crowder, Masculinity, and Homophobia (59:10–73:51)

• Critiques Channing Crowder (NFL player, podcaster) for his comments about Russell Wilson and being a “lame”—calling out Black masculinity tropes and homophobia.
• Jokes about Crowder’s obsession with Mike Tyson’s body during interviews, poking fun at double standards.
• Deep dive into toxic masculinity and “the trenches” mentality, infantilization of Black men, and misplaced values.
• Endorses Russell Wilson as a model—“the kind of Black man you’d want your kids to emulate”—versus the problematic “cool” icons.

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9. Relationship, Advice, and Listener Q&A (82:42–104:27)

• Notable Voicemails/Emails:
  • A caller asks about knowing when to take a leap of faith (Army vs. music): Deante’ and Big Ice Cup advise confidence is key and sometimes you need to “play it safe.”
    • "When your leap is riddled with doubt, this is just my own personal opinion and my experience, times that I’ve caught myself taking a leap of faith... and I knew that it wasn’t really a leap of faith, that it was a leap of failure, I was riddled with doubt." – Deante’ Kyle (83:30)
  • A woman asks about her “blackness” being questioned for being quiet and into art:
    • Affirmation that Blackness is diverse, calls to reject “Black policing,” and points out that actual traitors to the community aren’t always light-skinned or soft-spoken.
    • "Don’t let anybody question your blackness...because if that was the case, then we wouldn’t have no Angela Davis...Bob Marley." – Deante’ Kyle (91:53)
  • A young man wants to “change his uncle’s mind” about anti-immigrant views despite his own immigrant background. The hosts advise him to stop arguing and let reality be the teacher.
  • Classic "best friends turning into lovers" scenario—the hosts advise patience, self-work, and playing it cool for a potential future relationship.
  • Middle-aged teacher feels torn between pursuing rap or teaching; the hosts passionately advocate for the high impact teachers have, dismissing the myth of rap as a path to “the real bag.”
    • "Be a teacher...You already living your dream." – Deante’ Kyle (103:21)
    • "You going to have much more of an impact in that classroom than you ever will in that motherfucking booth." (103:17)

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10. Wrapping Up: Announcements, Shoutouts & Running Jokes (104:31–end)

• Episode wrap: Shout-outs for sponsors, new merch, and event reminders.
• Playful banter about billionaire rappers (Jay-Z), hip hop lawsuits (Meg Thee Stallion), and fashion choices (merse vs. purse).
• Concludes with enthusiastic appreciation for the audience and hype for upcoming episodes and guests (Stephen Dingle).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "If you cannot criticize the president without threat, then you do not have freedom of speech." (17:47) – Deante’
• On independent media: "I can say whatever the fuck I want because I own this shit." (25:30) – Deante’
• On Black resilience: "You ain’t your fucking ancestors. ... You made excuses on why you wouldn’t boycott Gucci." (55:52) – Deante’**
• On masculinity: "You gotta undo your homophobia. You gotta undo your misogyny...Grown men don’t operate like that." (64:23, 64:43)**
• On self-worth and authenticity: "Don’t let anybody question your blackness... we need diversity in our community, and we’re gonna need coalition in our community." (91:49) – Deante’**
• Listener encouragement: "Be a teacher. ... You going to have much more of an impact in that classroom than you ever will in that motherfucking booth." (103:17) – Deante’**

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:05–07:00 – Show opening, monologue, merch & event announcements
• 13:44–16:06 – Reflections on pop/gang culture and "Black American sign language"
• 16:40–29:42 – Late night TV censorship, importance of independent Black media
• 38:07–53:59 – Racism, lynchings, Black self-defense, history lessons
• 53:59–57:43 – Community empowerment & remembering real Black history
• 59:10–73:51 – Channing Crowder, masculinity, Russell Wilson vs. Future debate
• 82:42–104:27 – Listener voicemails/emails, leap of faith advice, blackness authenticity
• 104:31–end – Episode wrap up, jokes, and shout-outs

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Tone & Style

The episode features the show’s trademark blend of:

• Humor: Satirical takes, playful jabs at each other and celebrities, inside jokes about “sweet face killa,” and Black American culture.
• Seriousness: Honest, heartfelt engagement with issues affecting Black America and the podcast community.
• Community-Focused: Advocacy for Black businesses, safety, financial empowerment, media independence, and personal growth.

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Summary for New Listeners:
This episode is a quintessential Grits and Eggs experience—equal parts playful and profound. Deante’ and Big Ice Cup navigate serious subjects like censorship, racial violence, and Black resilience, all the while roasting each other, analyzing pop culture, and giving practical, street-smart advice to listeners. It’s a lesson in Black history, a call to action for independent voices, and a love letter to community—all rolled into one hilarious, irreverent package.

Transcript

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty south with a dirty mouth my knee orbit miss things things on me like a Norbit had to refuse them cause my bitch no restitution she gorgeous As I dab my sons up and kiss my daughter forehead Tell them we gonna get this money till my pocket morbid remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't gotta like a regardless baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me we like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee flick your cigarette and let a van.

Yeah, we back.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Oh, we back.

[Deontay Kyle]

Chris and eggs podcast episode 86. I am your host, Deontay Kyle. But who's behind the camera?

[Big Ice Cup]

The coolest co host in the world. Sweet face killer big ice cub cat. I'm sorry, I couldn't resist, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ghost face. Ghost face. Go hug your son, bro.

[Big Ice Cup]

Just hug him. All he want.

[Deontay Kyle]

All he want is a relationship with.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's all he wants.

[Deontay Kyle]

Put the big eagle down.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, who. Who's more supreme of a clientele member than your child? That's why he didn't want to. Come on.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

I wouldn't have did him like that.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, I would. I would have been like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So why don't you hate your gay son.

[Big Ice Cup]

Now besides spit?

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

No. Something's rapping.

[Deontay Kyle]

My son raps. He's a bar spinner.

[Big Ice Cup]

He's really spitting.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

He inherited that.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

They came through the jeans.

[Deontay Kyle]

Put the eagle down and pick up your child.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So just give your child the hugs.

[Big Ice Cup]

And embrace your son, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, you man look the. The ghost face. Sweet face. Killer album collab.

[Big Ice Cup]

Sweet face and ghost face.

[Deontay Kyle]

The sweet ghost, Sweet ghost.

[Big Ice Cup]

Oh, we talking telling you how to get money.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, we can tell you how to get the money. Yeah, I. Hey, look, I can lead you to water. I can't make you drink. Yeah, that's what happened when. When you are sleeping with women who throat smell like impulse.

[Big Ice Cup]

Gotta stop that. What they even mean?

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't even know. The back of my head hurt. Right?

[Big Ice Cup]

Oh shit. What a way to start the show.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Deontayantaykyle.com for all inquiries, bookings. Yada yada yada yada. Adviceeontaykyle.com for advice submissions, New Music Monday NMM Deontay kyle.com for all your New Music Monday submissions. Those three things are definitely important. Yeah. Okay. To separate these things, we can't have them all come into one email. Grits and eggspod. Gmail.com is no longer active, so if you send it there, I will not get it. Deontay Kyle.com for all your merch. Yeah, we got that Kumbay coffee shop merch out right now.

[Big Ice Cup]

Come on down to the Kumbaye coffee shop. Get you a T shirt.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Latte, baby.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're only gonna get that over at the Kumbaya coffee shop, baby. It ain't too many places selling kvassier latte. Literally none.

[Big Ice Cup]

Just us. Only thing that's regular.

[Deontay Kyle]

The board of health, then the FDA with the surgeons.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

General warning. A little Kabasi and Bailey's over ice oat milk.

[Big Ice Cup]

Can'T go wr.

[Deontay Kyle]

It going to sound like Dougie Fresh.

[Big Ice Cup]

Teachers around the world would be losing their jobs.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh yeah, for sure. Thinking they going to get their Monday morning started when it comes. Oh yeah. N you ain't teaching no kids nothing but how to fight.

[Big Ice Cup]

They'll be cussing children out by recess.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Yeah, sit the down.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's why your father left.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

He a say like that.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's why you sweet face kill.

[Deontay Kyle]

I knew you was gonna go there. I knew you was gonna.

[Big Ice Cup]

You said the Elliot. That's why you did that. Cuz you said you set the Elliott.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Put that. Somebody put that on the shirt. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Interesting.

[Big Ice Cup]

Had a cat dunking trip. That'd be cold.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'll buy that myself.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Yeah, I'll buy that shirt.

[Big Ice Cup]

I buy 10 of them.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh my God, bro. Five minutes in the back of my head.

[Big Ice Cup]

Oh, stop playing this kind of episode. This is going to be.

[Deontay Kyle]

So deontay.com merch we. So we're going to clean the website up. We got the domain for grizzlynayspodcast.com so we're gonna change that to the merch site eventually. I think we're gonna make that transition in November because we need to segregate some things. Deontaycon.com will be like a space for updates, probably upcoming shows and things like that. Gristnet's podcast will be the will probably house all of our merch tour. You know, things like that. We'll figure out a way to segregate the two. But right now we need a revamp. We need to simplify things because, you know, this is a competitive game. Once we get to this level, I go look at like some of the people that are doing this in a bigger space and their website are super simple. Very user friendly. You know, we do things our way and then we learn. So that's true. You know, more changes to come in the future. If you missed out on the tickets because they did sell out pretty fast.

[Big Ice Cup]

They sold out.

[Deontay Kyle]

They sold out pretty fast. Sold out in six, six hours. Damn. So if you did miss ticket sales for the Atlanta show, that'll be coming up this Friday. We will be having another event in November, a friendsgiving event in November. It'll be a little bit more room. I think we're going to try to do 75 to 100 in that space. It will be at Atlantucky if everything goes according to plan. Which means, I mean, it's a restaurant, it's a brewery. A black owned brewery owned by the Nappy Roots.

[Big Ice Cup]

The Nappy Roots, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

All my life I've been po. But it really don't matter no more. And they want this way Atlanta Tuck. It gonna be okay.

[Big Ice Cup]

Anthony Hampton going off.

[Deontay Kyle]

He was going off, man. Bro. I need Anthony Hamilton to get up with my boy Justin Kelly. Hey, you know what I'm saying? Get that beer.

[Big Ice Cup]

Growth treatment a little patchy. Yeah, patchy for a while.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was his look.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, that's him.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Sometimes you gotta walk to work struggling.

[Deontay Kyle]

I want to never go with that.

[Big Ice Cup]

No, I don't want to go. He froze. Rough times in North Carolina from.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's still the 20s out there. Jim Crow over there. Yo. It was a whole thing like early 2000s. Are trying to get that Jim Crow aesthetic off you. I mean, Happy R was.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, it was Kentucky, though. That was just them.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's how they were living. That's just them. You seen the video and if you remember, in the video, Bro was fishing with a stick in a string.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was like, yeah, why are we living like. Yeah, come on, bro.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, go to the store.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm saying get a real fishing rod. Yeah. How far are you from the closest major city, bro?

[Big Ice Cup]

Like where you live?

[Deontay Kyle]

Where you live. So we will have a friendsgiving event mid. It'll be either the week of Thanksgiving or the week two weeks before Thanksgiving. But it'll be. If everything goes according to plan, Atlantucky down there by Mercedes Benz. Yeah. Yeah. And it'll be nice and we'll have some vendors. Everything's going to be great. And then we're going to do a show in Charlotte. You know, another. We're going to throw our own private show in Charlotte with our special guest, Mavi. Hey. You know what I'm saying? You know, that's my Boy. Yeah, yeah. So just stay. Stay tuned in. You know what I'm saying? If you are in a Patreon, hey, $8 ain't nothing but $8. If you are in a Patreon, you will get updates and access to ticket sales first. Now this month already we've dropped a Patreon episode Cousin club live stream and we are introducing Q and A. Ow. So we're gonna do a Q and A once a month. That video will drop sometime this week if it hasn't already dropped. I may drop it in tandem with this episode. So it'll be out at 10am so you get to double. You get to double up. Hey, you know, saying we. We doubling you up. Hey, but we're going to drop a Q and A once a month, likely around the second episode of the month. Second or third episode of the month. But just a Q and A from the Patreon members from the cousins. Questions they have. We going to ask and answer. You know what I'm saying? So stay tuned for episode one of the Patreon. Q and A. Also, I will only be posting my sub stack to the Patreon, but I'll post it to free and paid members on the Patreon. But I'll be posting from my sub stack once a month as well. So now as it stands, two. Two bonus episodes, one live stream with the call in feature.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

One Q&A episode A access to the substack, A access to the discord, access to exclusive merch only available to the cousins. $8 and anything any event that we have. You have one week early access to $8. $8.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Get you eight things.

[Deontay Kyle]

God damn. Tap into the Patreon 657234X 6572343447 Call in, leave a voicemail. We got some voicemails today. Oh, we're doing our thing. Deontay.kyle across all platforms. Grist next podcast on Instagram. If you on here watching right now, like the video comment. Share. Subscribe Turn that notification bell on. Hey, Big ice cup cat on all platforms.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So vote Stephen Dingle. District 11. Yeah, we got Stephen Dingle episode coming Saturday. Hey, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

Man was in the building.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, we had to get my boy Steve O in here.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

District 11. Yeah, zone 4, Southwest Swats, west side bank here. Yeah. Where I'm from. Where I'm from, huh? Oh.

[Big Ice Cup]

Oh.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Just calm down. Just calm down.

[Deontay Kyle]

Calm down.

[Big Ice Cup]

Calm down.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Calm down.

[Deontay Kyle]

Sometimes you got to just put the dip in.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So hit me one of them cars, brother. It's in. It's in that drawer. Wait, you see? You see. You see them cards right there? It's on the left. It's gonna be closest to you. Lift up the decisions, decisions book. The horrible decisions book. Hand me one of them cards, brother. Hand me one of them cards, brother. I see what you're talking about. I see what you want right here. I see what you want, brother. Eastside dental group, brother. Dr. Devontae Johnson. That's my cousin on my mama's side. So open nights and weekends. 2055 Beaver Ruin Road, Sweet E Nor Cross. Free cleanings.

[Big Ice Cup]

Free cleanings.

[Deontay Kyle]

Free cleanings. Get your mouth right. We have had so many of the cousins go in there. Word, bruh. He said y' all been showing love. Y' all been showing up in that man dental office and overwhelmingly great reviews. All the reviews have been great.

[Big Ice Cup]

Cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

So shout out to the cousins. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Eastside Dental Group. Shout out to Dr. Devontae Johnson for having a practice that caters to the working class American for sure. You know what I'm saying? Specifically, them black Americans walk in a spot, we see ourselves, feel comfortable.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

My boy Coin, my boy Corn, he don't got. He ain't got an east side dental, but went to the dentist office with black, black dentist. Ah. Got to make extractions.

[Big Ice Cup]

He felt at home.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Comfortable telling her how to do her job.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Drill hair.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

He was like, you know, I got. She was like, I know. Trust me. That's why. That's why they me to.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

You see, See, they got them degree up there.

[Deontay Kyle]

You feel?

[Big Ice Cup]

That's why I got that.

[Deontay Kyle]

See that say dds.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right. That's all the plugs we got. All right, man. What's going on, brother?

[Big Ice Cup]

Nothing much, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

How you feeling?

[Big Ice Cup]

I feel good.

[Deontay Kyle]

Feel great.

[Audience Member/Caller]

How you feeling?

[Big Ice Cup]

It's moving along pretty fast, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

This thing picking up? Yeah, I'm doing make a start his life up. Great sweatsuit. Like I'm fresh out the program.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, like you.

[Big Ice Cup]

Like you fresh out. The feds like you just got home, you just touched down.

[Deontay Kyle]

So they going to give you Nike and the fed.

[Big Ice Cup]

Well, now don't get you Nike, but.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, similar, similar color.

[Deontay Kyle]

Similar.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Get your jail pose on real quick, son. Let know how we living out here, son.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

You can go to Chicago two times. He went to Chicago two times.

[Deontay Kyle]

On folks. Oh, I am in no way affiliated with any gang. With any gang. With any gang. Okay, let's make that very clear. I have no gang affiliations, nor do I aspire to. I am 35 years old, father of three.

[Big Ice Cup]

That is sick. Sick work you just did.

[Deontay Kyle]

I live in a cul de sac. I am not against the decipher. I will say this about gang bang culture outside of the killing part.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Everything looks like a good time.

[Big Ice Cup]

Like it's fun.

[Deontay Kyle]

Everything look like a good time. I don't like this.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And they got hella handshakes.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hella signs. You know what I'm saying? One of the biggest struggles for me is like, what to do with my hands when I take photos.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So, you know, we hit them with the original.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Millennial. You know what I'm saying?

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

A chunk of Deuce.

[Big Ice Cup]

Chunk of Deuce.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

But.

[Deontay Kyle]

But that is also Hoover Street. So you got.

[Big Ice Cup]

Oh, that's Hoover.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

We was in la.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

They monopolized everything, bro.

[Big Ice Cup]

They can't monopolize the A, bruh.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's why TI Started doing his A's like this. You remember when he was doing the A like this?

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Cause them Hoover ran down. I'm like, bro, stop throwing that up.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's like, bro, this is a town down. Yeah.

[Audience Member/Caller]

No, not here.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not around. Yeah. So it's, you know, it's. It's a. It's a. But, you know, it's very communal. Yeah. You know what I'm saying is very color coordinated.

[Big Ice Cup]

Very color coordinated, too.

[Deontay Kyle]

Be having cookouts.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It looks like a good time.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, it looks fun.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying, bro? It be the. It be the gang signs that be the most fire.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't even know what they talking about.

[Big Ice Cup]

Just 100 in the same picture. Thought of the same thing.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is a black American sign language.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

The black American side. Oh, my God.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, so what a week. Okay. What a week. So when we was in la, we was recording a late night show. People was like, man, this couldn't be better timing because Stephen Colbert just got canceled. Got his show canceled, right. Okay, cool. The week that I hear. The week that Tristan called me and said, hey, look, everything's almost done being edited. Should be done next week. Jimmy Kimmel.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

God damn it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Jimmy.

[Big Ice Cup]

Goddamn Jimmy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Goddamn Jimmy. Jimmy Kimmel.

[Big Ice Cup]

Not Jimmy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not Jimmy.

[Big Ice Cup]

How you cancel, Jimmy?

[Deontay Kyle]

You can't cancel. We don't seen this nigga be fat. Yeah. To Skinny. We just see him through his whole Oprah transition.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Now, Jimmy Kimmel is not funny. That's just real.

[Big Ice Cup]

And what he said wasn't crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

It wasn't. What he said wasn't crazy. But this is about corporate. Corporate interest.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is an overreach of a presidential power that leads into tyranny.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yep.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you cannot criticize the president without threat, then you do not have freedom of speech. Right. Freedom of speech is you can say anything to anybody at any given time, so long as it doesn't have threatened physical.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You could cast the fucking police out. I do it all the time. So this is an overreach of presidential power. This is tyranny. This will also put people in a position where they feel like. Now let's say this. The right has been saying for quite some time, especially right wing comedians.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Oh, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, the woke culture, the, the, the, the politically correct culture, this PC culture, we can't say nothing or we'll get canceled. And all that is, is like, niggas just want to be racist. It's not a critique of government. It's not a critique of anything culturally significant. It's not a critique of anything communally significant. It's not even a critique of anything nationally significant. It is just. I want to be racist. Yeah. You are not being canceled by the President. You're not being canceled by corporate interest. People are literally. This is people saying this. People are like, look, bruh, we don't fuck with that.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is the public outcry. This is not like a corporate outcry. This is incorporation saying. Well, you know, you can't say that even though they do play it safe because of the court of public opinion. That is a very healthy arm of democracy. The court of public opinion is very healthy to the arm of democracy.

[Big Ice Cup]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is how we have a civil society.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Is by people being able to criticize the media that they're taking in in a just way. You know what I'm saying? Hey, we don't say this no more. You know what I'm saying? Like the, the, the, the, the fact that when you get online, you have to say the N word, the F word, all of these different things is, is a, is a sign that the public has spoken.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And these are things that we don't want to see reflected in our media and in our society right now. What Jimmy Kimmel said wasn't crazy. This. But the way they are trying to sanitize the image of Charlie Kirk is a little crazy. They've even released AI videos of Charlie Kirk saying things he never Said while he was alive. And they're playing it in churches. First of all, if I'm in a church, if I'm in a black church.

[Big Ice Cup]

You see that big head motherfucker pop.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Up on the screen?

[Deontay Kyle]

Fucking Beavis.

[Big Ice Cup]

Oh, shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

If I'm in church and I see Beavis pop up on the projector screen, which one is he? Beavis or Butthead?

[Big Ice Cup]

Nah, he's Beavis.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Dark hair, right?

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Which one is Beavis?

[Big Ice Cup]

Beavis is the darkhead one. Butthead is the.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, no, no. Beavis is. Beavis is the blonde.

[Big Ice Cup]

Beavis is the blonde.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. So if I'm in a church, I see Butthead pop up on the screen. Pop up on the screen. First of all, the comparison to Butthead is definitely accurate. No pun intended. The gums. Chill, chill. All right, chill. All right, Calm down. That was my. Hey. First of all, like, millennials have digested some of the most weird media.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Of all time. She's watching Ren and Stim because, oh, my God, who were the animators on that show?

[Big Ice Cup]

How did they get passed?

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

You feel me?

[Deontay Kyle]

But I digress. We've never seen censorship quite like this. Now, I would say that this starts on Tick tock when we allow the algorithms to dictate the type of speech we use. Due to community guidelines, we are operating in a Chinese or on an Asian. What is it? From Singapore? Is the. Is the app Chinese?

[Big Ice Cup]

The app is Chinese.

[Deontay Kyle]

So we are operating underneath the guidelines of the Chinese Communist Party just as far as what we can say and how we say it, because that's reflective of their society. They have. They live on a social credit score. Now, Americans finding loopholes around those things is great. That's great. That's adaptability. But it is a form of self censorship because you can make money on TikTok was like, you know what it. You know what I'm saying? If I got to say unalive or shoeishad or, you know, schmexual Saw. If I gotta say things like that.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just on my video grape. You know what I'm saying? Just on my video when I get canceled so I can get their money. Cool, cool, cool. I'll do it. Now, what that does is open up the door for further censorship. Right. And further puts pressure on us to find loopholes in language around guidelines. Right? Now, though, what Jimmy Kimmel said wasn't crazy, and though I believe that his show will be reinstated, though all of the politicians sent out that scripted tweet that there is no room for political violence in our society. We have seen some of them push back. We've seen Gavin Newsom say that he's pushing a bill that you cannot be unidentified if you are an ice agent. They have to show their face when they're going out in these places. And we seen Jasmine Crockett propose a bill saying that the president can't have reach that infringes on people's free speech in the public or private sector. Right. I think it's just in public media. So with this Jimmy Kimmel thing, and this is something I want to talk about on our live show, I want to talk about the importance of independent media. If you are a tiktoker, an Instagrammer, a YouTuber and you have takes, if your, if your content is about current social, historical, political events, you should have your own website with its own domain and you should have a substack attached to that website. If you're not going to have a substack attached to that website, have a column on that website where you can print out your own articles and media, you are just as much of a. If Charlie Kirk, if Charlie Kirk is a politician and his death is real political violence, then if you have been making content on social issues for more than six months, you are now a journalist, okay? And you should treat it as journalism. Right now there are many ways you could charge for your substacks. Just charge a dollar, you know, I'm saying charge for your substacks. Have some simple, simple merch. If that is the case, if funding is a problem, right? But there is going to be a need for independent and unbiased media. Now a lot of times anything critical of the right is going to come from the left. But a lot of times citizens are not going to be as unbiased to things that are happening and being enforced by Republicans because they fall on the left. But we are going to see a lot of criticism about the right from the right as well. Just like we see criticism about the left from the left. And that binary system is just the system that we live under. I am still not a huge fan of the two party system because I don't believe it's a two party system. I believe it's two people in one trench coat calling themselves the government. So the, the importance of independent media is unless these niggas have make my on YouTube, take my page down, I can say whatever the fuck I want because I own this shit. I own my domain, website name, I own my. I don't own substack. But I can print, I can publish articles via substack. There's ways for you to get your message out. You're gonna have to integrate your audience. If you have been on Tick Tock for more than one year and you have substantial following of 85k or better and you have not started to integrate your audience off of there, you are playing a losing game. We're not getting money on Tick Tock like that no more. There's been there. They have clearly been bought out. The algorithm is completely different than what it used to be though. You see signs of it being more. It's basically just ads and bullshit. Now is the ad of this doom scrolling 101 and then when something major happens in American news it is floods the feed which means that it's owned probably by American corporation that wants to push a right wing agenda or a biased left agenda. So the importance of independent media and my call to action for all my content creators is don't just have your content live on these social media websites. I think YouTube is long standing insecure for long term media. I think, I don't even think it costs $10 a month to buy a domain. We're going to have to start utilizing websites again outside of just social media apps there is pro. We probably use less than 1% of websites that are available to us because we're on these apps all day and we get all of our information from these apps. We scroll these apps all day, we post all of our content on these apps where you can have your own domain and repurpose this content on your own domain and even have website exclusive content that's not available where if you know when in wrong bro, you don't got to break the rules all the time. You know what I'm saying? You don't got to buck the system all the time. If you want to keep your page and you notice that they're cracking down on people and taking people's page away from talking about things. But you still want your, you still want your message to get out there. Do it underneath your own domain. That way you can still have the reach that you want to have while playing the game. Because you ain't. It ain't gonna hurt nobody but you to but the system. Because if you don't amass 200,000 followers and they side delete your page, you knew you was playing with fire from the beginning. So there has to be some personal responsibility. We don't own these apps. And when you don't own things, you don't get to dictate the rules and regulations that they play by. Now, if you were to integrate your audience and just in most times, integration is only 10 people. I mean 10%. So if you have a following of 200,000, you can guarantee that, what, 2,000 or 2,000 people will follow you to the next spot you go to. That's not a bad following. That's not a bad place to start. Okay, you was at 2000 on TikTok or Instagram once upon a time too. So I would say because Instagram doesn't pay, they let you get away with saying a lot more because the incentive of payment is on tick tock. It's a little tighter over there. And, and they, and they've taken down the payment significantly. I ain't gonna hold you. Every month. I was guaranteed to do 45 to 4500 to 2000. Now I'm lucky. No, 4500 to 5000. I'm lucky if I crack 1500 now.

[Big Ice Cup]

Sheesh.

[Deontay Kyle]

That just is what it is. So. But I integrated my audience. I have 100k on, on YouTube. I got 300k on Instagram. I, I know that I could still get my message out because I didn't just hone in on where I was making my money. If you, if you are visible enough on TikTok, that is going to be very easy for you to be visible and build platforms in other places. You have to utilize the power of independent media. Independent media is going to be extremely important to us in these coming times when we're going to start to see corporate media be a propaganda machine and a machine of disinformation. Because again, if I'm sitting in church, I'm in a. I'm in a Baptist or a Methodist, a African Methodist church, a AME church or a Southern Baptist church. And my black ass preacher put a picture of butthead on the screen and start talking about what type of wonderful man he is. My nigga, I'm leaving that church. Matter of fact, y' all owe me back. Y' all owe me back. Pay on my tithes. What the fuck is you talking about? I ain't no Christian first. I ain't a Christian at all. But I'm just saying, being a Christian first is crazy.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, it's wild doings.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's nasty business. Evil.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Evil. You niggas are evil.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's Sunday.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

If you in the church right now and they passing around the collection plate, reaching their hand and grab the money for no reason, their money is your money.

[Big Ice Cup]

Their 10% is your 10% as of.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Right now, their 10% is your percent.

[Deontay Kyle]

10% as of right now.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Go in the pulpit and talk to pastor. Talk to pastor and baptize the pastor for no reason.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. The independent. Okay, so this next point that I'm gonna make about the importance of independent media is they're gonna say things like, oh, y' all ain't cover Trey Reid the way that y' all covered Charlie Kirk. Okay, first of all, every black person that has something to say about Charlie Kirk also has something to say about Trey Reid, the student from Delta State University of Mississippi. The difference is corporate media was not talking about Trey Reid.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

So you're not seeing it all up.

[Deontay Kyle]

And down your feed the way they did because they had an agenda behind pushing Charlie Kirk.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Come on.

[Deontay Kyle]

When nigga die and a week later got his own national holiday. When nigga died and a week later, you seeing them trying to exhaust erect statues of him. You never seen this before, right? The reason why you seeing this is because his ideals lie in Christian nationalism. Christian nationalism is a part of the all white white supremacist pipeline. This is the direction that they want this country to go in. I think Handmaid's Hell is extreme, but it's not far off. It's not out of the realm of possibility for the way that these people think. I don't remember seeing no niggas in Hannah's maid tail.

[Big Ice Cup]

Matter of fact, those in the book, they was exiled in the book. Actually.

[Deontay Kyle]

The future is female.

[Big Ice Cup]

Think went to Canada, Mexico. You had two choices.

[Deontay Kyle]

Where you going?

[Big Ice Cup]

It's too cold for me in Canada, so I'm going straight to Mexico.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm going to Belize.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

I'm going south of the border for sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

Going south, baby. Trey Reid is yet another example of the history of America. We've seen Trey Reid, those two young men, Stone Mountain. We've seen this happen time and time again in Georgia. And we should start a list of the black men and women afflicted by lynchings. Self, self harm. Black people don't lynch themselves. Black people do not hang themselves. Okay? This is not gonna happen, especially not in public. Oftentimes if you're in a small town and a black man or a black woman is lynched, and they say there's no signs of foul play, the coroner and the sheriff are implicated. The coroner and the sheriff are working together to hide what's going on in that small town. Because the coroner and the chef are likely clans members. Just is what it is. So Trey Reid is Yet another victim of something that happens historically in this country. When we start to see black people's voices get a little too loud for the rights liking or for the white's liking, when niggas get a little too uppity for the whites liking, when niggas are getting a little too powerful for the white's liking. And they are in a phase of complete anger in their grieving process behind this country. The country is not being taken away from them. The world is evolving past their way of thinking. This country is evolving past their way of thinking. Anytime that an administration or any structure of power pushes to ban books, ban education, you are in a state of fascism. Because education will free you from the shackles of this ignorant way of thinking. Knowledge really is power. So when we tell you to do the knowledge, we're empowering, you go do your own research. Don't just take my word for it, because I get it wrong sometimes. Sometimes I'm wrong about the dates, sometimes I'm wrong about the times, sometimes I paraphrase things. And it gets away from true message of things because we're keeping the show as raw and organic as we can. And we have Tristan doing editor notes. If we fuck up, and if I fuck up, I will go back and say I fucked up. I've done this several times, but for the most part, I get it right. You know what I mean? Trey Reid is yet another victim of the circumstances of white anger. White male anger, specifically, white women have used their voice to police black men, use their accusations to kill black men, and use their accusations and their voices to the detriment of black women. Historically, in this country, casual killing act gave white women the power to kill these enslaved people with impunity a lot of times due to jealousy or envy of these black women who were attractive to their quote, unquote slave masters. And the madam was jealous and decided to enact violence on these said women. Emmett Till is a perfect example of how white women use their voices and accusations to the detriment and the death of black men, oftentimes. Which is why I wouldn't never understand a bunny hopper. Just can't understand it, but I respect it. You know, as we evolve, relationship evolves, you know, the zeitgeist of the country evolves.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

But that shit ain't for me, all right? Respect it if it's for you.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't grow up where you niggas grew up at, all right? We got our own Charlie Kirk. His name is Dr. Umar.

[Big Ice Cup]

That would be our Charlie Kirk, Black Queens forever.

[Deontay Kyle]

Snow bunnies. Now I'm just saying in a historical sense, so you can go down the list within the last 10 years and you can tie them directly to events that affect and afflict white people. Fox News giving people the green light to commit violence against the homeless. So not only do we get Trey Reid lynch, we also get Corey Zucchetis lynched in Mississippi. We get seven homeless people shot in a homeless encampment in Minneapolis. These websites, these news sites, these corporate media will give you a green light to enact violence on homeless people or people of color, specifically black people, in a time like this. Shit. And an apology is sufficient. Jimmy Kimmel criticizes. Donald Trump loses his job. Fox News anchor says we should euthanize the homeless on on air. And all he has to do is issue an apology. Still gets to keep his job. Something's wrong with that. Trey Reed gets lynched in Mississippi and they suspect no foul play. Who's going to investigate the coroner and the sheriff now? Colin Kaepernick. Shout out to the great Colin Kaepernick, standing on business as usual, has conducted private autopsy with his own money, private autopsy into Trey Reid's death. So rest in peace to Trey Reid. Condolences to the Reed family and condolences to every family member that has lost somebody to lynching in this last 10 years since Trump has been in office. We starting to see the uptick of lynchings. Rest in peace to Corey Zucchaitis and well wishes to those shot in the homeless encampment in Minneapolis. Now Colin Kaepernick took a knee.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Colin.

[Deontay Kyle]

Kaepernick took a knee to protest police brutality in this country. And NFL said there are no room for political demonstrations in this corporation.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

And all but five teams held a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk who was assassinated due to his political opinions. But there is no room for political.

[Deontay Kyle]

Demonstrations in this corporation unless those political opinions are white supremacist Christian nationalist ideals which are likely held by the owners of the NFL. Propaganda was being sent around saying that Justin Jefferson had agreed to pay for Charlie Kirk's daughter's college tuition. Propaganda division. I fell for it. Yeah, in a fit of rage I deleted it. But God damn.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

The fuck you mean, Justin?

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

The fuck you mean?

[Big Ice Cup]

They tried to do it with Dion too, but it didn't fly.

[Deontay Kyle]

There's no room for political demonstrations in this corporation unless they align with the white supremacist power structure that America is foundated on. You protest police brutality, you'd be blacklisted for the rest of Your career. Nike support you and your efforts and your protest. And white supremacists will burn the Nikes while they're still on their feet. This is why Naga is important. Naga is the National African American Gun Association. Not only do they have gun shops, but they have gun instructors. Trey Reid should be an example that it is not safe to travel by yourself. Trayvon Martin was an example that if you are in a predominantly white space, it is not safe to travel by yourself. Charlie Kirk said that Trayvon Martin was stalking George Zimmerman when the opposite was true. George Zimmerman was told by the police, do not approach Trayvon Martin. Trayvon Martin was not stunting George Zimmerman and yet was murdered by George Zimmerman. There's no room for political violence. We do not conduct dome violence. Yet George Zimmerman can sign skittle packets and rock the rebel flag, Confederate flag, even though his Spanish ass is a drunk and a murderer. This is why Naga is important. Now, while you still have rights, While you still have rights, you should take full responsibility on enacting those rights. Because if you want to see gun laws change and black people get armed, I guarantee you they'll change the laws. Black people should not be traveling by themselves in predominantly white spaces. It is not safe.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

We are in the middle of a.

[Deontay Kyle]

War with no weapons. If Trey Reid has a pistol, and we know that there are lynch mobs for a reason, one man is not going to hang another man. Two men are gonna struggle. Usually we see it happen with three or more men. If Trey Reid has a pistol, Trey Reid gun they ass down. Self defense. If they tried to say it's not self defense, then we conduct a further investigation. In the country full of black citizens, at least the black citizens in this country would have made sure Trey Reed. Maybell would have made sure Trey Reed had the best lawyer in the country. Benjamin Crump always comes up in these situations, don't he?

[Big Ice Cup]

Pop up like Superman.

[Deontay Kyle]

Pop up like Superman. This is why Naga is important. Women. Yeah, women. I'mma tell you something about the black woman, bro. They, they, they, they. Once they get enough, they make changes. Guarantee you you ain't gonna run down no black woman now. And she ain't strapped. Black women be strapped up.

[Big Ice Cup]

Clutching.

[Deontay Kyle]

They be clutching. But gun instruction, gun safety is of the utmost importance. Not only do you need to have that on, you need to know how to use it. Now, I'm a big supporter of the second Amendment, especially for black people. The Black Panthers got a lot done. They were huge proponents of the second Amendment. When they showed up places, they had Them things on them. You cannot be in a war without weapons. Your mind is not comparable enough weapon for a bullet. A bullet will quite literally blow your mind. When you are engaged in a cold war such as we see ourselves as engaged in as black Americans in this country, constantly. A physical war, a mental war, a spiritual war, a narrative war without weapons. Now, we do a great job of fighting a narrative war. Sometimes one on one, we tend to win the physical wars. We are losing the mental war. We are losing the psychological war because we are always in a reactionary state. Now, the proactive thing to do when you start to see an uptick of violence against black people is to go get a firearm so that if you are traveling by yourself and somebody threatens your life and puts your life in danger, you can protect your life. That's what the second amendment is for, Right to bear arms. Fear for my life. Take a book out of it. Take. Take a page out of their book. I fear for my life. This is why Naga is important. You cannot be alone in predominantly white spaces. We're going to start to see an uptick in enrollment in HBCUs from those bound, from black people that are bound for college because you are not safe in predominantly white spaces. What's the population? What's the demographic of Delta State?

[Big Ice Cup]

I know one thing. When we was in Mississippi, we was trapped.

[Deontay Kyle]

50, 53 to 55% white, 37 to 42% black. So this is a 50, 50 group. Okay, but where is Delta State?

[Big Ice Cup]

The Mississippi Delta?

[Deontay Kyle]

What city is it in? I was in Delta, Mississippi. Oh, Cleveland, Mississippi.

[Big Ice Cup]

Cleveland, Mississippi.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now, this is a 50% black town, which now, even bigger serves as a. As a. As an act of fear, of instilling fear in black in the black population in that city. And then they say shit like, now this may be a controversial take because you. You cannot be peaceful with people who are committed to disrupting peace. You cannot be nonviolent with violent people. You cannot be civilized with savages. So Big mom and them used to have shotguns, pistols. Big Gip just told a story about how they ran the Klan off in his town. His big mama was well respected in the country town they from in South Georgia. Because if you come at me with the bullshit, I'm getting on the bullshit with you. You ain't the only nigga with guns. They ain't stopped making guns when they made yours. We spending all this goddamn money on material items. And our fear is that we have to protect ourselves from other black people about them fucking material items. But what about your life, nigga. What if the material is that it can get you killed alone is just their skin. What if that's the only material necessary for somebody to enact violence on you? Don't you want to protect that? When you want to protect that of your child, that of your brother or sister, that of your cousin, that of your mama, that of your father, aunties and uncles and grandparents. Because so long as we look alike, we subjected to the same rules, right? Especially in the eyes of a white supremacist or a racist. So this is why Naga is important. And historically, especially during slavery, they try to make an example out of the strongest of us to instill fear in the rest of us. And then they say shit like, why are black people still living in Mississippi? And I say, we need more black people in Mississippi. The land is cheap. You could bring your own opportunities to a place like that. If you found success in a major American city, let's say you in Chicago, you find success. Well, the only reason you in Chicago is because your people was fleeing from Mississippi, return home. We got strength in numbers, man. We most black people live in the Southeast because most people, black people are returning to the Southeast. We need to return to the Southeast in droves. If you want to be spoiled by seeing yourself the way you see yourself in Atlanta, Atlanta can be recreated. Sure can, easily. And it could be recreated and done the right way. If we don't, if we don't believe in our power to be self, self sustaining, if we don't even believe in our power to create infrastructure for ourselves, then it'll never get done. Fundraising taxpayer dollars, they do it all the time. If we had a way, a black tax for ourselves, even if it was just $10 a month. Do you understand the population of black people now? What we need is trustworthy treasurers and a trustworthy face and a mouthpiece for that organization. And somebody is not fucking greedy because we can't trust the pastors to do it anymore. But these things can be recreational. What you think, big Cat?

[Big Ice Cup]

I think in the near future we should do it. We should be the treasures.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, I think we could do it. Yeah, it.

[Big Ice Cup]

Let's get the money, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm willing to be extremely visible with my.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

We talk about build community. What a perfect way to do it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Power of a dollar. Don't be alone. If you live in predominantly white spaces and even if you don't live in predominantly white spaces and you traveling, don't be alone. You have to prepare yourself for them to pretend that this is the Jim Crow south all over again. Nationwide. You have to prepare yourself for discrimination. You have to prepare yourself for hostility. And don't look back at your history and only look at the times where things were destroyed. Look at the times when we revolted. Look at the times of our resistance. There's plenty of stories about that. And you don't know your history, so you don't know that. So you bet. And you say shit like we aren't our ancestors. As if our ancestors was docile. When you say we are not our ancestors. I'm gonna tell you something. You're absolutely right. You're not them. You can't even boycott an ACT app. You made excuses on why you wouldn't boycott Gucci. You ain't your fucking ancestors. When them people in Montgomery, Alabama boycotted that bus system for two years because it was bigger than their fucking convenience. It was about making a statement. And through that they created a stronger community of carpooling and figuring out their own transportation systems. They did for self. You not your fucking ancestors. Only thing you think about is yourself. So when you say shit like we.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Ain'T our ancestors, follow that up was.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because we some weak son of a bitches. Don't don't be saying that shit like them people was docile and and soft. Them people was resistant. Them people was making statements.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Them people was changing shit. You ain't changing shit. So say I ain't my ancestor. I'm a weak.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because I am my ancestors. Nigga, that puss ass shit they be saying, that shit be pissing me off. I am my ancestors for sure. You ain't never going to hear me popping no shit like that. Making it seem like they was weak to these white folks. They were strong as fuck.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

The only reason you got the freedom.

[Deontay Kyle]

To say shit like that is because of your ancestors. Don't you dare disrespect them. And you making excuses for why you.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Won'T delete the Disney app you got. Damn right.

[Deontay Kyle]

You ain't your ancestors.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

They would deleted that shit in a heartbeat.

[Deontay Kyle]

I tell niggas to boycott the NFL. Oh, if the NFL need my football.

[Big Ice Cup]

Baby need my football.

[Deontay Kyle]

The NFL fail, the whole country will fail. Go Cowboys.

[Big Ice Cup]

Goddamn cowboy.

[Deontay Kyle]

You got damn right you not your ancestors.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

You ain't got no back.

[Deontay Kyle]

Boss. Now I got to watch my slavery animation. I gots to watch these brothers enact violence on themselves in week in and week out. Skip, if I don't get to watch my NFL, I don't know what I do. Pussy ass Nigga Cowboys fan.

[Big Ice Cup]

Ain't never been to Dallas, ain't never been to Texas.

[Deontay Kyle]

This America's football team right here. Let me tell you something about Mex football team. Michael Irvin was balling the out on the Cowboys full of that dope.

[Big Ice Cup]

Little.

[Deontay Kyle]

Girl for that girl. Hey, Jimmy, that, what's that name? Jerry Jones.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think I said his second best investment when I bought Deion Sanders.

[Big Ice Cup]

When I bought Deon.

[Deontay Kyle]

Boss, I can't boycott slavery. That's what you niggas sound like to me. So you goddamn right. You ain't your ancestors. And don't you dare say it again. This is the new saying.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

We are not our ancestors. We don't have any integrity.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get a gun grip a Glock.

[Big Ice Cup]

Lick a shot.

[Deontay Kyle]

Lick a shot.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Hey, boy, you from around here?

[Deontay Kyle]

Put a swish on it.

[Big Ice Cup]

God, just move the town up.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's what we should do to Cleveland, Mississippi, if it wasn't 50 black muda. Let's talk about a failure of a light skinned man. Oh, Channing Crowder. Yeah. Now Trannon Crowder says that Russell Wilson is a lame. Will always be a lame. Got that lame shit running through his body. Chandler Crowder sat across from Mike Tyson and couldn't keep his eyes off his dick. The Trenches will never respect Russell Wilson.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

How did you take.

[Deontay Kyle]

How would you trade in future for Russell Wilson? I know them guys in Atlanta.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

They'll never. Them boys in Atlanta never fuck with Russell Wilson.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'mma tell you something that the Trenches don't fuck with.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Homosexuality.

[Big Ice Cup]

Sweet face killer.

[Deontay Kyle]

Exhibit A.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Now you, you spend the whole interview asking Mike Tyson about his johnson.

[Deontay Kyle]

Terrible. Can't take your eyes off of it. Wanted a little bit of it.

[Big Ice Cup]

Jesus.

[Deontay Kyle]

Jesus Christ. That clip kept playing over in his head.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

You till you love me. You, you till you love me.

[Deontay Kyle]

China crowd over there getting excited looking.

[Big Ice Cup]

His chops.

[Deontay Kyle]

Getting cat posed.

[Big Ice Cup]

Cat pose is crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, you know you like. Yeah, I know, I know. Freaked out ass. Hey, Chand Crowder is an athlete. Give a fuck what you think about the Trenches, nigga. Give a fuck about what you think.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Cool and not cool. Let's give it a bean. Niggas ain't know you until the Pivot Podcast, nigga. Ain't nobody never in the history of any fucking thing before the Pivot Podcast ever typed in on YouTube. Channing Crowder highlights. Now we'll watch Ryan Clark knock a nigga head off.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, for sure.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

I had a picture of Fred Taylor on my wall when I was a kid. Facts don't Nobody know your ass. Nigga, you on that podcast. Cause they fuck with you. Cause you funny and you freaked out.

[Deontay Kyle]

And you good for clicks. We all need a wild card.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

We all need a charlamagne to God.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Charlamagne. God gonna toe to toe with Dame Dash head. Hey, we'll get back to that in a second. Shayna Crowder, the only person on that show. I mean, they got two on that show with integrity, so they gotta have a goofball. Cause Fred Taylor is a real.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, he gonna say he gonna keep it real.

[Deontay Kyle]

He gonna keep it real. He kept it real.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ryan Clark, stand up guy. Tranny Crowder. Everybody. We. We. We need some levity. We need a clown on this show. It's gonna ask Mike Tyson about his dick, but then tell us Russell Wilson. That's. This is how the trenches keep black men infantilized.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

You know who else is homophobic? Children. You know who else care about body counts? Children. You know who wake up every day worried about what they gonna wear to school. Children. You don't spend all day trying to prove that they tough and they hard.

[Big Ice Cup]

Children.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Children, nigga. Keeping you niggas infantilized with this idea.

[Deontay Kyle]

Of what the trenches will and will not accept.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Nigga.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hold on.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

You telling me. You telling me. You telling me this would have been in the I'm so Hood video.

[Big Ice Cup]

God damn.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

You telling me this is the cool guy. This what the trench is going to fuck with. Freaky ass nigga. You get older, you got to undo.

[Deontay Kyle]

Your homosexuality, your homophobia. You got to undo your homophobia. You got to undo your materialism.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

You got to undo this idea about.

[Deontay Kyle]

What black men are cool and which ones aren't. You got to undo your misogyny, and.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

You got to undo this idea of being overly fucking freaked out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Grown men don't operate like that.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Nah, grown men ain't always itching to tell sex stories. 40 something years old, talking about who cool and who ain't. Nigga, if I'm a raise anybody, I'm a hope that I raise a Russell Wilson.

[Big Ice Cup]

Facts.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Want to raise a future. Love the music. Don't wanna raise a junkie.

[Big Ice Cup]

Tie me up, fat head.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

I don't wanna raise a child with 10 baby mamas. Don't wanna do that.

[Deontay Kyle]

No. Boy down there in Atlanta. Boy down there in Atlanta won't fuck with Russell Wilson. Nigga, fuck Atlanta.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

I'm from here. Atlanta. If that's what we gonna compare it to, give a about no like that grown ass man. We talking about what A woman chose.

[Deontay Kyle]

The woman that got married.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Man, shut the up man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Tired of you lame man. Lame as man for sure.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Get your big freaky football playing ass on the podcast and talk about football, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

Talk about sports my nigga.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Cause ain't nobody in the world think you just some super official tissue ass nigga. Nobody think that. And every chance you get you want to talk about how your wife treats you like a cat.

[Deontay Kyle]

Give a fuck about that shit, man.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

I'm gonna tell you if your big ass see me in public and try to punt me.

[Deontay Kyle]

We got a light.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Skinned equivalent of you should dare.

[Deontay Kyle]

He can go up top on your ass for sure.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

I'm 510 cigarette smoker out of shape.

[Deontay Kyle]

Motherfucker not gonna wrestle with you. I just throw a dildo on the floor. Yeah, and throw you off your.

[Big Ice Cup]

I think it's tory calibrate.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, 12 incher on the floor might have an aneurysm. Yeah, start licking his paws.

[Big Ice Cup]

Freaky ass man.

[Deontay Kyle]

We never criticized you before on this show because we love to pivot podcast. We don't like that type of we are grown as black men.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Fuck is we worried about who cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

And lame or not.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Think about if you had a child.

[Deontay Kyle]

And what would you want their outcome to be? You want your child to be beloved.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

By the fucking trenches.

[Deontay Kyle]

Love what he do on the field.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

You worried about the type of man a woman chose. Man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Unpack this cat fantasy.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Why your old lady got you on the porch clawing at the door. Why the fuck do I know all this? Cause you talk about every chance you get overly freaked out. 45 year old.

[Deontay Kyle]

Talking about who cool and who ain't. Oh, them boys in Atlanta.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Them boys in Atlanta will rob you.

[Deontay Kyle]

I know these niggas.

[Big Ice Cup]

Break all your windows.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Break all your windows out of your.

[Deontay Kyle]

Car and take the rims off your shit.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

That won't even do you the pleasure of leaving it on blocks. That bitch will be the rotors on the cement. Them niggas robbed Beyonce. Fuck you think you gonna do in Atlanta?

[Big Ice Cup]

She wasn't even in the trenches.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

You gotta hope you don't look like a nigga from Pittsburgh.

[Deontay Kyle]

Zone 3 Nigga pop your stupid ass.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Cause you look like a nigga he beefing with. You got them dreads. You got long dreads. You tall light skinned nigga with long Dreads.

[Deontay Kyle]

At least 10 of the population. I look like a beefing with your dumb ass popped out here ain't beef with no Russell Wilson.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

They gonna be showing Russell Wilson so.

[Deontay Kyle]

Much love cause he's up you not understand how poor people operate surround have Russell Wilson up on their shoulders like he had a bar mitzvah.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Mazel tov wrong with that, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Channing. Channing. Gonna tell me who the real is a named Channing? You're a athlete, man. Blessed enough to make it to the NFL and make friends with Ryan Clark and Fred Taylor so that you can have a secondary career.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Be cool with that. Give praises, be humble. My.

[Big Ice Cup]

He'S a cat.

[Deontay Kyle]

Chanting the Channing the cat Crawford chanting the cat Crowder. Take that to the wwe. Oh, cat man freaked out ass grown ass man. You a grown man. Grown man. By the way, talking about who cool and who ain't, bro. If we want to progress our community, we should hope that we have more Russell Wilson's than futures. A nigga who's infantilized futures still trying to be a young nigga, Jim Jones. Infantilized niggas. That's the goal of the system, is to keep you young minded.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Cause if you stay young minded, then you stay out of grown folk business. Cause you know what grown folks do?

[Deontay Kyle]

Build communities. Build systems. Build structures.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Same structures and systems that got your.

[Deontay Kyle]

Stupid ass in your 40s thinking about who a real nigga and who not.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Who give a fuck fuck about no real nigga.

[Deontay Kyle]

Tell you what this lame do. Since you always want to talk about money. Tell you what this, this lame man worth $100 million. Russell Williams standing stand on his wallet next to you Future I heard gonna be Bob Dylan performing.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Bob Dylan.

[Deontay Kyle]

They gonna be on the road till he's 70 talking about dirty soda like Le Iced tea catch that in 2050.

[Big Ice Cup]

And they cut his dread turned into Morgan Freeman.

[Deontay Kyle]

Catch a catch a future in the year 2050. The Dirty Sprite reunion like Bob Dylan perform until he die. Damn Whamson money Drake said big bank Roll the thought. Ghana saying no Ben roll the thought.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Hey, yo.

[Big Ice Cup]

Hey yo.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

I mean, I mean, I mean, I.

[Deontay Kyle]

Mean, look at this guy.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

He looks like a nice guy.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Why do we keep talking shit about him?

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know. I would love to hang out with Russell Wilson.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

That nigga like a good time Russell.

[Big Ice Cup]

Wilsoness in the slancier.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

I'm talking about putting.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm talking about stay out these marriages. No, respectfully, stay out these married people business. Look at his wife.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's what I'm saying.

[Deontay Kyle]

That is a beautiful couple.

[Big Ice Cup]

I'm saying son, kid up all the.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Kids took your child.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, change his name.

[Deontay Kyle]

Took your child.

[Big Ice Cup]

Get my last name. He's always here.

[Deontay Kyle]

Future Wilson.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's crazy.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Future Wilson.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

That's the end of the beef.

[Big Ice Cup]

Future Wilson.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Hey. When I take your child and rename his last name.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Beef over.

[Big Ice Cup]

It's over.

[Deontay Kyle]

And a net worth $165 million.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look up Chann Crowder's real net worth.

[Big Ice Cup]

3,500,000.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

5 million estimated be around.

[Deontay Kyle]

See, they ain't even estimate Russell Wilson. Shit. It was a fact. Dead on spot this around 5 million.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Now, you both of you niggas got.

[Deontay Kyle]

More money than me.

[Big Ice Cup]

Facts.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

But I guarantee you one thing.

[Deontay Kyle]

When I touch $5 million, I won't.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Be on the Internet talking about who a real nigga and who ain't. And I won't be detailing the sexual exploits of what go on between me and my wife behind closed doors, fool. Huh? Fuck wrong with this?

[Deontay Kyle]

I bet his wife.

[Big Ice Cup]

Why the would you say that?

[Deontay Kyle]

Why you keep talking about my freaky on camera? This is what we do.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

That's our shit. Damn. What? You trying to turn these on?

[Deontay Kyle]

What if you come home?

[Big Ice Cup]

It's another cat in the house.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

If you in Shannon Crowder house right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man. I don't disrespect. I don't disrespect marriages. Yeah, like you. What you got, big cat? Let's move on to some of these emails, man.

[Big Ice Cup]

Let's do it, man. I'm ready.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm ready to see what the people.

[Big Ice Cup]

Want to talk about, man. Before we do that, though, let me crack this refreshing.

[Deontay Kyle]

We're gonna get in some of these voicemails, emails. I'll be right back after this commercial break. We back. Hey, we are back, baby. We're gonna get into some of these emails, voicemails, and shit like that. But before, let's talk about love and hip hop. No.

[Big Ice Cup]

Catch that tr. Smokes that lightning.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Shut the up.

[Deontay Kyle]

For real, though, let's talk about loving hip hop.

[Big Ice Cup]

Loving hip hop.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to the flower girl.

[Big Ice Cup]

Hey, Cincinnati.

[Deontay Kyle]

Using y' all to wipe coffee off.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's not what I sent that bag to us.

[Deontay Kyle]

We already done.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

At me like, oh.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let'S talk about love and hip hop. All right, Now, I know that this is a conversation we haven't had before. We don't talk about reality tv. It's because we're not talking about reality tv. We're talking about Monte Leo and stunning for Vegas getting married. Hey, shout out to the wedding. Shout out to the. To the newlyweds.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Stunning for Vegas.

[Deontay Kyle]

Monte Leo, Beautiful wedding. Okay. Beautiful. Have you seen the clips? No, I haven't they look gorgeous? They look good. Peak pink theme. Okay. Stunning for Vegas. Fresh. Fresh braids. Fresh barrel. Barrel twist. Fresh pink silk tuxedo.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Ow.

[Deontay Kyle]

Groomsman looking great.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

With it. I like it. You like it? All right. I'm. What? Only thing got me confused about their whole wedding is why the we wasn't invited.

[Big Ice Cup]

Well, we could be in our pink.

[Deontay Kyle]

We couldn't wear pink. Yeah, we don't know them people.

[Big Ice Cup]

No, we don't know. No affiliation with the people at all whatsoever.

[Deontay Kyle]

It still would have been nice to get an invite.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a beautiful wedding. I haven't been to a wedding in a long time. I haven't been to a wedding since 2007. Damn. Well, my father married my stepmother.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's the last time he went to a wedding. Hey, anybody getting married, man, send us some invites, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, if you're getting married, man, grizzly boy show up.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

We'll do color commentary right on the side. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Kick us out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, shit. He finna kiss her.

[Big Ice Cup]

Oh, shit. Drop bombs in the.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

In the wedding. If you were newly aware right now.

[Big Ice Cup]

They'll kick us off for sure.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

They'll kick me out for sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah. Because.

[Big Ice Cup]

Hey, any doubt.

[Deontay Kyle]

I want to see any cat. Big do.

[Big Ice Cup]

Say cat.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to the sponsors. Hey. Shout out to our sponsors. For our live event on the 26th. Slimming Huskies. Comb the food.

[Big Ice Cup]

Delicious.

[Deontay Kyle]

Delicioso.

[Big Ice Cup]

Delicious.

[Deontay Kyle]

Black owned.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to do. Say hey. Providing the alcohol. Hey, shout out to our sponsors, man. Shout out Jay Z. Shout out the whole man. Send us a couple. Send a couple. Now, don't send me no ace of spades sentence. Bottle of DDG last time. I ain't seen that. Say nothing about how he sends. All right, I'll send a message. Is it poison? Is it not?

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Who knows?

[Big Ice Cup]

Who knows?

[Deontay Kyle]

Take a sip.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, Let us know.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's one thing you don't want to try with no.

[Deontay Kyle]

First of all, you want to beef with no Billionaire street.

[Big Ice Cup]

Nah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Diabolical.

[Big Ice Cup]

He still got 96 bricks.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's 93 bricks over.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, I want to know where they are. I want to know what disappeared. Because how you come in the game. 900 strong.

[Deontay Kyle]

You come here 100 grand strong. Nine, to be exact. Grinding cheap packs.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Why was they so cheap? Why they cheap?

[Audience Member/Caller]

Because you held.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because you held out during the. This is what I'm 93. We're going to the drought.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yep.

[Deontay Kyle]

You ain't low. No big fans of you over here.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't Want to get that confused at all? No, no.

[Big Ice Cup]

Love your rock. We'll put a paper plane sign in the back.

[Deontay Kyle]

My.

[Big Ice Cup]

Just send the text, this is hov.

[Deontay Kyle]

We'll clear all that out. We'll get rid of all this.

[Big Ice Cup]

Just paper planes in the back.

[Deontay Kyle]

We'll get a monitor right here. Just play the Black Album. That's it. The whole.

[Big Ice Cup]

The documentary.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, it'll just be that playing every episode.

[Big Ice Cup]

Every episode is whole.

[Deontay Kyle]

Wanna smoke with you? Nah. You or Tata no beef with affiliated with Rock Nation. I'll be. Y' all be. First of all, Meg the Stallion is suing to smithereens.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, he's suing. She's not even rapping. What?

[Deontay Kyle]

You're just suing. She don't even need to rap no more. These lawsuits gonna feed her for life. She's personally gonna take Aiden Ross net worth.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Put the.

[Deontay Kyle]

They're gonna put the streaming equipment and the microphone and the computer in the lawsuit. Get rid of all that.

[Big Ice Cup]

Get rid of all that.

[Deontay Kyle]

So DJ academics haven't heard a peep out of this.

[Big Ice Cup]

Haven't heard that in ages.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey man, shout out to Meg the style.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shutting these the up I just posted.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Hey black.

[Deontay Kyle]

Black people. We gotta start playing that court game. Yeah, that'll get that. That they need them from something about that court of law.

[Big Ice Cup]

See that court of law, somebody justice system.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

It burns.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Hate to see that coming.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to Mighty Most Def. The Goat, Yasin Bay. Yeah, just cause.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, we need some that peppers. We need to go to peppers.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. I ain't wearing them furry ass shoes.

[Big Ice Cup]

No, I'm not. I'm not wearing a purse.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't mind immerse, man. But them big furry ass boots that he had, almost crazy.

[Big Ice Cup]

No, that was a purse that wasn't immersed. I love west side, but that was a purse.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was the immerse. I wear immerse.

[Big Ice Cup]

You know, I wear bags. Yeah, yeah, but that was a purse. Shout out to west side though. But I love west side.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to him. Shout out to Stovito. Yeah, stuff.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's it. That is all.

[Caller]

Mr. Grits and Eggs. How you doing, brother? Big fan. So I just started this voicemail as I don't know exactly what the advice I'm needing, but it is like 24. Well, just turned 25. Girlfriend broke up with me. She went back to her ex, which ended up being a girl, which was kind of crazy. I was like, damn, that bitch kind of bro. Okay, I'm sorry. That's kind of crazy. But you know, kind of kind of on the outs with my family a little bit. You know, a lot of it, I was self destructive, you know what I'm saying? So I'm just trying to recover from that.

[Deontay Kyle]

But.

[Caller]

Now I'm about to go to the army. I'm smoking right now, not weed, because I can't. I want to make sure I pass the test. I'm able to go. But yeah, I would say probably just my question would be.

[Deontay Kyle]

How do you.

[Caller]

Know when you're supposed to take the leap of faith, you know, or rather, how do you know the difference between taking a leap of faith or just trying to survive? I know they can be one in the same sometimes, but yeah, I don't know. It's different sometimes, you know, because I rap and I do music and stuff and like, I don't want to be a star at it, but you know what I'm saying? It just, you know, just want to do, keep my head on straight. But yeah, big fan. Shout out. Shout out. My dog, Big Ice Cook. You know what I'm saying? Shout out Griffin Egg. Thank y', all, because I don't know how much lives y' all saving with this podcast, so thank you.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Big Ice Cup.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man.

[Big Ice Cup]

I know what he's asking.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, look, this thing, bro, you know when, you know right when you about to make decision and you are overwhelmed with doubt, you likely making about the worst decision because there's a certain confidence that comes with making a leap, taking a leap of faith, where it's just like, you know it's gonna work out in your heart. You know it's gonna work out when your. Your leap is riddled with doubt. This is just my own personal opinion and my experience times that I've caught myself taking a leap of faith. And I knew that I was taking a risk and I knew that it wasn't really a leap of faith, that it was a leap of failure. I was riddled with doubt. I had no second guessing about quitting my job to do this. I had so much confidence. So if you're riddled with doubt, I would say play it safe because your mentality is also a big part of your leap of faith. If you aren't confident in your decision, you were likely making the wrong decision. What you got for him, big cat?

[Big Ice Cup]

Man, take your ass to the arm.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, hoorah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, man, go ahead and go.

[Deontay Kyle]

Go ahead and go to the arm out here. Yeah, man, I mean, use it, use it.

[Big Ice Cup]

Don't let it use you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, we talking about rapping, bro. Like you can rap in the Army. Soldiers with an album.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, real trend. Real no limit soldier.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm talking about for real.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, Shorty's gone. Go to the army.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, just go to the army. Get to work on your lats. Work on your delts.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And biceps and them triceps.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Come back.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't forget leg day.

[Caller]

A big ice cup. Ice cupcake. Don't play that. That. I left that message. I left before. Please don't play that. I'm a little tipsy and I had to do this again. But this your girl G spot. Underscore75.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm the one girl G spot me your name G Spot.

[Big Ice Cup]

It's your girl G Spot.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is Shorty. Left. Left him for.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

She left.

[Big Ice Cup]

Your.

[Caller]

I'm sorry, who requested a interview with you and Amanda Fields on Twitter. I also follow you on IG and I've been following you on Tick Tock way before you got your podcast. And he was in the truck dropping knowledge on the glossary to look up words podcast. And he was in the truck dropping knowledge on. I knew that I was gonna have to look in the glossary to look up words with you and Amanda, and that's why I did. I requested that because I love both of y' all and. And I was gonna go to work the next day and drop them big ass words on my co workers. As soon as they were like, what you saying? What that mean? I was gonna be like, do the knowledge you. Anyway, I also wanted to say to everyone that for a long time since you first started, be patient with this man. Show him some grace, because he is. He blew. He blew up. You know what I'm saying? And he can't. He used to comment on every. On everybody's comment and like, everybody coming, but he can't do that now. And y' all need to show him some grace and understand that he can. Why he can't do that. But anyway, keep up the good job and I. I look forward to seeing y' all next. Or yeah, seeing y' all next. Y' all next part podcast. And when y' all come close to Memphis, I ain't even mean to say what the I was. When y' all come close to Memphis, I will be coming through. Anyway. Holla.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to G Spot from Memphis, man, the Doucet gotta chokeholds. Memphis Mike. G Spot, when we come to Memphis, we're gonna come right at you, G Spot. Thank you, man. We appreciate you, Auntie. Because y' all gotta understand, bro, like my Notifications is crazy. Yeah, I used to. I did used to comment, like, every comment. Comment under all of them. I literally can't do that.

[Big Ice Cup]

It's impossible.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nigga, do you understand the phone usage that I was.

[Big Ice Cup]

It's impossible.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's impossible. Yeah. So it's. It's. At some point, it's just. I don't even comment at all. I just post and I go. I see the comments. I love it. I appreciate it. But it's literally no way for me to have a productive day and correspond with y' all at the same time and just not gonna happen. Shout out. G Spot, man, we got one more see.

[Caller]

Hey, Grizzen Eggs podcast. I just want to tell you that I love y' all so much, and I love everything that you stand for, and I tune into every episode. I'm a really big fan, and I would like some advice from you guys. So I'm a fully black woman, brown skin, you know, but it really bothers me that my blackness is questioned. I'm like, I'm quiet, I am introverted and things like that. I love art, and I, like, I've heard it quite a bit in my life. Even I'm getting older. I'm a young adult now. And even with, like, people that I'm talking to romantically, I hear it, and it bothers me. And how do I not let it get under my skin that my blackness is questioned? I don't like that. It makes me feel like I'm not black enough. Because I love who I am. I know who I am. I don't want to be compared to those people. And it really bothers me that I get compared to white people. And it always makes me question, how can I be black enough or what can I do? And things like that. But I just need advice, like, how do I not let those comments get under my skin?

So.

And keep doing what you're doing and have a good day.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to you sh. Well, appreciate you for all the kind words off the rip. Second of all, man, listen, bro, this. The thing is ignorant sometimes. For sure. Willie lynch did a number on us by segregating us. According to Skin Tone, you have black people in the early 1900s that were fully white passing black people, and they utilized that to their advantage. Don't let anybody question your blackness. And people who are black policing people like, y' all gotta stop that shit, too. We're gonna need diversity in our community, and we're gonna need coalition in our community. And a lot of times that is diversity in Thought. And a lot of that is understanding the diversity of blackness and how it shows up in the physical form. We got black gingers, we have albino blacks, we got people that are mixed that look more black than the motherfucker that with two black parents. And we got people that's mixed that look like white folks. But the thing is the world will see their blackness first. And the culture, the culture, it molds and shapes that blackness. And so long as these people is coming up and their, their goal and their, and their incentive and their pursuits are in the best interest and in the liberation of black American peoples, then they are black. Because there's a lot of dark skinned niggas out here with conservative talking points. There's a lot of dark skinned coon ass niggas out here and you won't question their blackness, but their rhetoric is white.

[Big Ice Cup]

A lot of dark skinned niggas making light skinned niggas out here just making.

[Deontay Kyle]

Churning them out, turn them out, churning them out. So we gotta stop this calling blackness into question when it shows up black. And it's in the best interest of black people. Because if that was the case, then we wouldn't have no Angela Davis facts.

[Big Ice Cup]

You wanna have a Bob Marley?

[Deontay Kyle]

Come on, let's talk about it. Let's talk about, let's talk about Bob Marley. White daddy Norval. Mm, down here fucking on children. Hey, hey, hey. Don't listen. Don't let that shit phase you, man. Continue on your pursuits and build community with people who don't question your black. And understand that people that overly question blackness are a little ignorant or skeptical. And black people have the right to be having skepticism. But also you ain't got to show your freedom papers to niggas, all right? My uncle, my immigrant uncle is a fucking Nazi. Oh shit, yeah nigga. You see the title?

[Big Ice Cup]

That's what we like.

[Deontay Kyle]

Real messy going on over here. My name is Zenzo. Never heard of that. That's the only reason why I said it. Never heard that. 23 year old male, big fan of the show. Been watching non stop for the last two weeks, ever since my cousin put me on. I'm gonna subscribe to the Patreon next to next week too. When they turn my EBT back on. Shout out. My uncle. 54 year old Malawian. Malawian, how's it spelled? ML M A L A W I A N. Malawian immigrant, is an avid supporter of Charlie Kirk. Well, that's all you got to hear about. That and a lot of recent events. AKA him getting his knocked off both women. Oh, coming in hot. He's been on a real rampage with the whole right wing rhetoric. Little backstory on me. My father, his brother in law is a South African immigrant who fled from Cape Town in the late 80s to escape apartheid. He witnessed the true nature of white people from early on and despite us being born in Los Angeles, made sure my brother and I were raised in a very politically conscious home. Always taught us not only to stand for what we believe in, but how to recognize the signs of tyranny and move accordingly. Now my uncle has gained some moderate financial success over the years and why his view. His views have always been peculiar. On to me this. Watched CNN all day. I think the disassociation is finally starting to set in. As I was catching up with him earlier today, he casually sends me a link to apply to be ICE agent. Needless to say, that sparked the whole four hour back and forth. In fact, I'm still between texting this man as I write this email. My question for y' all is how can I change his views on our government if at all possible? And also, what are some potentially enlightening ways I can remind him that he's a part of the immigrant crisis too. In the eyes of the big orange in office. Thanks again for reading. Love y' all show. Keep doing your thing. Greatest podcast in the world.

[Big Ice Cup]

I got. I got a way he can. He can reality check that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Tell that to go to Utah.

[Big Ice Cup]

No. Call ICE on that. You want to draw ice so bad, call ICE on that. Make some fake paperwork on that. Leave it on the doorstep. I bet you turn back South African real quick.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Lightning on that drink.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's how you gonna be sounding when ICE pop up.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Can't you hear me crying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Call ICE on that.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

[Big Ice Cup]

His ass gonna be on cnn.

[Deontay Kyle]

We caught a Malawian. First one.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

First one.

[Deontay Kyle]

Our first Malawian. This back to South Africa. I'm sorry, what the. Now make sure you call ICE on that from a secure line so they'll come get your ass. Zenzo.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yes.

[Big Ice Cup]

Find a pay phone as soon as.

[Deontay Kyle]

They find a payphone is insane. My insane. Okay, I'm gonna tell you this, Enzo, if they ask for your id, you going to.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So to make an anonymous call, but.

[Big Ice Cup]

Now you say he was born in. He was born in Los Angeles.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I know.

[Audience Member/Caller]

He good.

[Big Ice Cup]

No, no.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm just saying obviously don't matter. The ice. Obviously they don't give a. Yeah, listen, man, Gen X brain rot is real deal. Gen X Brain rot has been existent and it exists not on social media but on cnn, on Fox News. When you get a that's watching the news all day and they don't understand the difference between disinformation and information misinformation. He's cook brother and he, and he, and he vehemently thinks he's right. Your job is not to reform him. Your job is to move accordingly.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Based on your beliefs that. And that's your uncle. So respect. But that because it ain't nothing you can do to change them. If a, if A comes from apartheid South Africa and then, and then worships white supremacists, he's cooked.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

We are looking at Stockholm syndrome. All right, you just let him have it and stop arguing with him because there's nothing you gonna do. He's trying to convince you and you trying to convince him. That's not a healthy conversation. No. Because it's going nowhere fast. We also, as we grow, you know, leave it up to the white people to show him who he is because they will trust me real quick, very fast, without hesitation, they are going to remind this exactly who he is. But thank you, man. Oh well.

[Big Ice Cup]

Happy what we got son?

[Deontay Kyle]

I think I'm in love with my best friend.

[Big Ice Cup]

Oh my Lord have mercy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Jesus Christ.

[Big Ice Cup]

I don't want to be your friend no more. I've loved you from the first time I saw you. You know, see brown sugar.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh yeah, yeah. I was like hold on, that's not for me.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey Deontay Colin, the coolest co host in the world. Big ice cup cat. My name is blank. I'm a 21 year old black girl from North Carolina and I just wanted you guys advice on the situation. I've been going through for contests. I've had this friend, male, 22, who I've been friends with since our freshman and sophomore years of high school. I was one of them boy crazy girls in high school. So each year I was in a relationship with someone else and he would be with other girls as well. But we've always been friends through it all. We previously played with the idea of having feelings for each other and have talked about potentially dating. But it never went further than just a conversation topic. Outside of that we've always been each. We've always been in each other's corners throughout anything we go through. He's a handsome, intelligent guy. He's the only I've had in my life that doesn't expect anything less than my best self from me. He's always respecting Me as a person and as a woman. He's the only person who's remained, after my experience with spiritual psychosis last year, quite literally trust him with my life. Lately, I've been prioritizing being single, getting on myself outside of a relationship, which he understands. But there's also this lingering feeling of connection between us that's more complex than just the friendship. We've already told each other how we feel, but I'm afraid if things don't go well, it'll ruin our friendship. Long story short, I just want to know what you guys think I should do. Sorry for the long ass emails. Love the podcast. I wanted to take this opportunity to reach out to you guys. Thanks for reading and for your help. Peace, love and blessings to you both. Listen, this is your husband.

[Big Ice Cup]

She just gotta play it cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's gotta be cool. Be smooth.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, it's gonna happen. Just let it happen.

[Deontay Kyle]

Here's the thing. The longest lasting relationships are those of between people who become, like, really good friends. First, bruh ain't even tried to fuck. Now he really fucked with you. So both of y' all are playing it cool because neither one of y' all want to be rejected. But if y' alls have expressed feelings for each other, stay on your journey of self discovery, stay on your journey of independence. Keep them legs closed and wait for your husband, baby. Because that's your husband for sure. All right.

[Big Ice Cup]

She know it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Invite us to the wedding. Yeah, just be cool, man. You know what I'm saying? The way that he reveres you lets you know that the man is deeply in love with you. And if it's not in love, he has such a love and a reverence for you that you're only going to find the husband. That man trying to be your man.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Wanna be your man.

[Big Ice Cup]

Then they're gonna happen to y' all like 25, 26.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, for sure. Y' all gonna get y' all together.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Play the field a little bit. Y' all still super duper young, you know what I'm saying? But I ain't saying it can't happen young either. But, you know, y' all be cool, man. Y' all don't let nature take over and pop out a whole bunch of babies. Get y' all shit together first. Yeah. All right. Last one of the day. We had a minute. We had an hour 42. Okay. Yeah. Good time, Good time. Great time. Oh, what's good, brother? No mid-30s and at a crossroads make music that I think is good enough to pop, But I also never want to deal with the messy side of music, Money and fame, etc. Got a great opportunity teaching in Oakland. It feels like one of the best things I've ever done in my life. But I can't help to think that I should push the music and brand for the real bag. What you think? I think you should just be a teacher. Yeah. Listen, man, you're in your mid-30s. You've been rapping this long, Ain't nothing popping. You are a teacher now.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah. You're a teacher.

[Deontay Kyle]

You are influential on a level that you don't understand. And you are a male teacher, which is much needed. All right? You don't want to deal with the messy side of music. Money and fame, and that is all there is.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's. That's it.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, that is it. That is it, brother. So you ain't got to worry about none of that. Being a teacher, and you got a great opportunity, and it feels like one of the best things I've ever done with my life. What are you we talking about? Yeah, put that mic down. Pick up that goddamn ruler.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Get out that booth and pick up them books.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

What are you talking about?

[Deontay Kyle]

What are we talking about?

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

You already.

[Deontay Kyle]

You already living your dream. Yeah. And you changing the lives of other. Everybody remembers their favorite teacher. Be that. Yeah, okay, for sure. You going to have much more of an impact in that classroom than you ever will in that motherfucking booth. Trust me. The bag ain't a bag. For real. Most rappers is broke. Most rappers is in debt. This is the biggest 360 deal. This is the biggest payday loan you ever bought in your life. All right? Just be a teacher. My. You're doing great. You're in Oakland. Black ass Oakland, teaching a black ass. Dude with your black ass. If you want to rap, learn how to make a lesson plan in a rap. Yeah, yeah. Wrap a lesson plan. Wrap your mind around the fact that you are a teacher. Put that mic down. If you're gonna rap for recreation, just rap. Yeah, but we ain't trying to blow up. Yeah, send something new music Monday so we can crush your dreams.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Sing your music in.

[Deontay Kyle]

Send that music in. Say this is the teacher from Oakland. Yeah, yeah, we'll play that first. We'll play that. The first and foremost judge you harshly.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Even if it's good.

[Big Ice Cup]

Get that out of here.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

Even if it's good.

[Deontay Kyle]

We giving you zero ice.

[Big Ice Cup]

Exactly. Be a teacher.

[Deontay Kyle]

Be a teacher. Man, you already doing your damn thing, man. Big ice cup what you got, baby?

[Big Ice Cup]

Hey, man, we here.

[Deontay Kyle]

Wait.

[Big Ice Cup]

Episode what?

[Deontay Kyle]

86.

[Big Ice Cup]

86. Damn, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

Stephen Dingle, episode 87.

[Big Ice Cup]

Stephen Dingle. District 11. District 11 swats southwest Atlanta. I know the interview went well. I wasn't there for it, but I'm sure that went well.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Would y' all like to know who the guest is for episode 88?

[Big Ice Cup]

No, they will not. Just let them see, son. Come on, man, you. You real excited. I know why, but still. Calm down, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right? You're right.

[Big Ice Cup]

Let them see who it is, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're right.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, they'll enjoy it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Come on, son. Come on, son. It's been episode 86. Inquiries deontayantayky.com for all booking and inquiries. Adviceiontekyle.com for all advice. Submissions NMM that's New Music Monday. Nmmeantecowell.com send your music to big Cat for your New Music Monday submissions. 657234. Eggs at 657-234-3447. For all the call ins and voicemails that you just heard. Patreon. Hey, $8. Ain't nothing about $8. Comes with a free coffee at the Kumbaya coffee shop.

[Big Ice Cup]

Come down to the Kumbayer coffee shop. Get you a Courvoisier latte. Get you a pumpkin spice Doucet Pumpkin spice do, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get you a p. Spice do. Say latte.

[Audience Member/Caller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

All my teachers drink free.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, that's not good.

[Big Ice Cup]

They cussing the kids out again.

[Deontay Kyle]

DDT the kid.

[Big Ice Cup]

Get your ass to recess now.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

It's 8 o'. Clock.

[Deontay Kyle]

You mean. You mean. You mean you want to go to the nurse? Go now. Go now. Go. I gave you a reason to be in the. In the office. It's never easy to say goodbye, guys. It's not.

[Big Ice Cup]

We be having so much fun.

[Deontay Kyle's Co-host]

It's never the right time to say goodbye. But, you know, gotta let it go. No sign. But I gotta do it. It's killing me. If you don't get out my car, I'm gonna commit domestic violence.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, all right.

[Big Ice Cup]

So I'm gonna.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right.