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Big Ice Cub
Yay.
Rapper/Poet
Woke up in the morning and to God be the glory Thankful for another day to tell my story Put my opinions in the universe and let them orbit I'm from the dirty south with a dirty mouth might need orbit miss things things on me like a nigga Norbit had to refuse them cause my bitch no rest fusion she gorgeous as I doubt my son's up kiss my daughter forehead tell them we going to get this money to my pockets Mor remember living in apartments now we playing mortgage you ain't got to like a regardless baby I'm blessed and I keep that blick with me we like grits and eggs as you sip your coffee Flick your cigarette and let a vent yeah, we back.
Big Ice Cub
Oh, we back.
Deontay Kyle
Grits and eggs podcast episode 91. I am your host, Deontay Kyle. But who's behind the camera?
Big Ice Cup Cat
The coolest co host. Big ice cup cat.
Big Ice Cub
Big ice cub.
Deontay Kyle
What'S up, my brother?
Big Ice Cup Cat
What's going on, baby? Big ice cup yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Deontayante Kyle.com for all inquiries and booking adviceyontechile.com for any advice submissions. We got a few today that we're gonna read and respond.
Big Ice Cub
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
And then 657234X that's 657-234-3447 for all you call ins for your voicemails. We're gonna listen to a few of those today. NMM. That's New Music Monday. NMM at Grits. No@Deontay kyle.com nmmtekyle.com okay, now. This is now Grits and Eggs Radio presents new music Monday. Hey.
Big Ice Cub
We cooking, baby. Can't wait to tell y' all what.
Deontay Kyle
We got coming with that shit, boy. All right, if you're on ig, Deontay California or Grizzly Next podcast follow Grizzly Next podcast on ig. So over the next few weeks, we're gonna start posting some throwbacks. We're gonna take them all the way back to the beginning, baby.
Big Ice Cub
Okay? Back when. Back when shit was grainy, hey.
Deontay Kyle
Back when it was one mic and iPad, that's how we was kicking it. But that just, you know, recap. For the day one. People that been following since day one. People that have been following since I was in the truck. You know, we just gonna start, you know, post some throwbacks and go check out. I mean, dropped three episodes last week. Hey.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Feeding the streets.
Deontay Kyle
Feeding cuz like. So we went episode Jam podcast.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
All right, look, check this out. Remember, these are young men. I'm a middle aged man. Right. You know, you know what I'm saying? We just have enjoying each other's company, bruh. Everything gotta be like political discourse. I get it. But it was more so about like showcasing their personalities and who they are outside of their podcast. And just showing this link up, this probably is not gonna more than likely won't be the last time we have a conversation. Facts. And me and JJ and Big VO got something cooking. So you know what I'm saying? We're gonna have a tres generationis episode. But shout out to Matt. Shout out A.B. shout out J.J. and what's the other young nigga name? It's another a. I think his name. Aaron or something.
Caller Tay
Aaron.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah. Shout out Aaron. Shout out Jam podcast.
Big Ice Cub
Then we came back. Sam Foster.
Deontay Kyle
Hey, Sam Foster for Marietta.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Okay.
Deontay Kyle
Vote Sam Foster for Marietta. He will be the first black mayor of Marietta. He's 24 years old and he is addressing the needs of everyday working class people. He goes down and does a full breakdown of some of the systemic issues in Marietta. Some of the things he can tangibly change. And the reason why he's running, he gives a lot of his background. So go check that out. That's episode 89. And then we got episode 90. Jasmine's Garden.
Big Ice Cub
The girl, the home girl. You know what I'm saying, Star. You feel me?
Deontay Kyle
Jasmine? And we talked on deconstructing religion. We talked about spirituality, we talked about socio political shit. But we also talked about that Halloween party that we're hosting. Centers in Wonderland. So go check out Episode not episode 90.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Episode 90.
Deontay Kyle
Episode 90. So 88.
Big Ice Cub
89.
Deontay Kyle
90.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Last week.
Big Ice Cub
And.
Deontay Kyle
Join that Patreon.
Big Ice Cub
Hey, $8.
Deontay Kyle
Nothing but $8. We dropped episode on Patreon.
Big Ice Cub
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
So we are feeding the streets.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I've been working.
Deontay Kyle
We are working, baby. We are working sexy.
Big Ice Cub
So on black American princess.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Don't give them too much.
Big Ice Cub
Too much. But so, so, so, you know, join.
Deontay Kyle
That patreon ain't number $8. I'm. I'm finishing up a substack article that I post only on Patreon. We're going to be doing a stream sometime this week. Okay. Might Do a stream tomorrow. We can do it tomorrow.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, for sure.
Deontay Kyle
So we'll do a live stream tomorrow with one of our guests and then we'll just continue two episodes a month early. You get free. So Patreon, you get early access to everything, right? So you're going to get first dibs on any, any shows that we do. You're going to get first dibs on merch but you also get your own exclusive merch. We are switching up the website so Deontay Kyle is going to be for me and it's going to be an update of events and things like that. But merch is going to be grits and eggs dot com. That's grits in eggs. G R I T S N E G G S dot com. And there it will be. It will house all of our merch. That'll be where you get merch. That'll be where you get into the cousin club. So if you are on the Patreon you get the cousin club. You only get the password. If you're in the cousin club you also get access to the discord where we are going to start doing a once a month meeting, like a town hall meeting, you know, just discussing things off of the broader, you know, in outside.
Big Ice Cub
Right.
Deontay Kyle
Don't take it inside and then you know just. You get everything over there for $8 man. I mean, you know what I'm saying? We got them, we got them grits hats dropping. Hey, they'll have 72 hour access early on the website. And then we also got another special.
Big Ice Cub
Thing that I'm cooking up another product.
Deontay Kyle
Something you never seen, quite literally have never seen. I'm gonna be the first person to ever do this with a podcast and I guarantee you're gonna love it. But we'll talk about it more when it comes out. So hey, I fresh back from New.
Big Ice Cub
York, the big city concrete jungle where dreams are made of. There's nothing you can do.
Deontay Kyle
I was in Harlem Renaissance Hotel. I was in Harlem Uptown. Uptown. I was on that famous block, 12 5th. Ah, love it. Walked to Harlem Breakfast. Harlem Breakfast. I think it's Harlem Breakfast Spa or Harlem Breakfast Cafe. You know, just real nigga breakfast, you know what I'm saying? Went to speak at the NLU National Urban League.
Big Ice Cup Cat
How was that?
Deontay Kyle
Amazing.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Okay.
Deontay Kyle
Then we went party in les, you know what I'm saying? Hey, I ended up in an apartment.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Downstairs in the basement.
Deontay Kyle
Downstairs in the baby nigga. Just playing Technomania.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah, that's it.
Deontay Kyle
My nigga El Couste came with Me, Cousteau. Me and Cousteau went to see Khalif Joseph, Khalil Joseph's Black News premiere at New York Film Festival. So Khalil Joseph has run a series called Black News that he turned into a full length film. And it's just like Afro futuristic. It's genre, Ben. And it feels like a dream, it feels like a documentary, it feels like a news segment. It feels like a film. It feels like everything. It's amazing. It's probably one of the most unorthodox films that I've ever seen. But it doesn't look like it's of this world. Low key. Like that shit. Like that shit. Feel like you're looking at something in the future.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Futuristic, bro.
Deontay Kyle
That shit is.
Big Ice Cub
But it's.
Deontay Kyle
But it's very cohesive, though. It's like, it doesn't feel overly CGI or edited or anything like that. Like, it feels like you're watching something actually take place that ain't real yet. Okay, so his eye and his vision. As you know, Khalil Joseph shot the Mad City documentary for Kendra Lamar, and he also shot and directed Lemonade for Beyonce. The entire music video film, short film type vibe. So shout out to Khalil Joseph. Shout out my brother El Cousto.
Big Ice Cub
Yeah, we just running around, you know what I'm saying?
Deontay Kyle
Just running around Harlem. Just running around Harlem. Saying running around. Les, I went to Brooklyn. Holling. My man Derek, owner of Cloudy Donuts, okay? Seven Streams, you seen them. You seen them with Wallow. You seen him with 19 keys. You seen them with some of the biggest black entrepreneurs and voices in the culture. But me and him, we kicked it on some, you know? I mean, first of all, them donuts.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Is good as donut heaven.
Deontay Kyle
Great donuts. And they're 100% vegan. Hey. Mm. That's a good donut. And he gave me a sweet potato cinnamon roll.
Big Ice Cub
Oh, wow.
Deontay Kyle
My nigga.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Damn.
Deontay Kyle
My nigga.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh, shit.
Big Ice Cub
Talking about keeping it black.
Deontay Kyle
Talking about keeping my back.
Big Ice Cub
Yeah, how am I gonna keep it?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Look at it. Vegan.
Deontay Kyle
Oh, man. So, yeah, shout out to Derek. I don't want to say his last name. That's the homie Derek. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, be more resident, former hustler time entrepreneur.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
A wealth. Wealth of knowledge when it comes to business. Just. I mean, a real nigga, though. Okay? So, yeah, you know, what a great weekend. You know what I'm saying?
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Also met with somebody else up there.
Deontay Kyle
But we ain't gonna talk about that. All right?
Big Ice Cub
We gonna talk about it.
Deontay Kyle
All right. All right.
Big Ice Cub
New music Monday.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Hold on one second.
Big Ice Cub
All right, but so what I went.
Deontay Kyle
There for National Urban League. Yeah, so we were talking about engaging black, young black men specifically in voting. Right. I had some heavy hitters up there, but. Well, let me say who was there.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, let the people know who was there. So I'll let the people know who the heavy hitters was.
Deontay Kyle
All right, so did have some heavy hitters up there. The moderator was Wisdom Cole. This is the NAACP Senior National Advocacy Director, Michael Bland, executive director for Black Men Vote. My son, the general. No, you know, my son the general. General. And he has a movement and organization called Until Freedom. Then we got Khalil Thompson. His organization is with black Men.
Big Ice Cub
Win with Black Men.
Deontay Kyle
And then, of course, me, host of the Grizzly Next podcast, Deontay Kyle.
Big Ice Cub
Ow.
Deontay Kyle
So, you know, a lot of great conversation went on there. I would not. I'd be remiss because I think there was a big proponent of that where we didn't want to get a lot of media around it, because I think we tend to spill our secrets in the public a little bit. One thing that I did like, that we pointed out is about not just engaging black men every four years or every two years, but if we gonna engage them from time to time, it should be the. Every two years. And it should be for us, understanding the importance of voting locally. Right, Right. So in your local vote, you can see a direct change. This is why we advocate for Stephen Dingle, because we know people in his community.
Big Ice Cub
We.
Deontay Kyle
We know that community, and we know people that would be directly affected by voting him in and the policies that he wants to see implemented over there. This is why we advocate for Sam Foster. We know what Marietta is like. We understand the dynamics of there. And you can actually see the person that's gonna be helping bring change to those areas in a direct way. You can go directly to him.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Absolutely.
Deontay Kyle
And you know what I'm saying, Like, him being a mayor, he's not out of touch. The current mayor is running for his fifth term or some shit like that. I don't even think you can do that. But under Trump, I gu. You can do whatever the fuck you want now.
Big Ice Cub
So the.
Deontay Kyle
The.
Big Ice Cub
But my.
Deontay Kyle
But my point was we need politicians. We need people in office, constantly engaged in the community. Right. Like, we need people to know where these town hall meetings are happening, these city hall meetings are happening. We need people to know how to show up when things are going on in their community that they need to know about. And not just super voters and people that are retired, right? So how do we connect with these men outside of academia, Right? Like somebody like a Wisdom Cole, you know, he's a young man, he's, you know, a director in naacp. But how do we get the opposite of a wisdom call in those rooms too? You understand what I'm saying? Like, how do we get somebody that is just as involved in. Is immersed in the community, but may not want to be, May not be involved and may not know how to get involved, right? And by putting them in rooms like that, you can surround them with mentors and you can really help affect change. But you also help spread their voice to people that only they can talk to, right? It's a certain group of young men that's only gonna listen to me and they won't listen to somebody like a Wisdom Cole.
Big Ice Cub
But if, but if they see me.
Deontay Kyle
And Wisdom Cole in the same room together, they're gonna hear him out because it's like, oh, okay, that's like a stamp type shit. Absolutely same thing on a Wisdom cold.
Big Ice Cub
It's some people that's gonna see me.
Deontay Kyle
And not want to have a discussion with me, but they see me with wisdom and they're like, oh, okay, let's hear them out. Cause if the wisdom fuck with him, I fuck with him. So I think the same thing goes for my son Khalil and Mike, that it's just like everybody has their strengths and their people that they can talk to by us coming together and sharing not only a diversity in background. Black ground. Fire. Hey, black ground. The black ground. Not only a diversity in background, but diversity in thought, diversity in experience, a diversity in our walks of life, but also a diversity in age. And if we wanna engage young men, we need people that know how to talk to young men. We need people that know how to listen to young men. And outside of just voting, how do they get involved in their community? So this is my thing. This is why we talk about getting young men into trades, right?
Big Ice Cub
When you are in a skilled trade.
Deontay Kyle
You are gonna directly affect the dollar in your community. You can decide to spread that dollar throughout your community, right? Because you'll have some disposable income that.
Big Ice Cub
Going to be you, you know what I'm saying? Pocket's going to get a little thick. Pocket's going to get a little heavy.
Deontay Kyle
Baby ain't the only one with four pockets full.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Extra sloppy.
Deontay Kyle
Oh, there got to know we.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You got to know POC is extra sloppy.
Big Ice Cub
Don't I love My vegetable extra cheesy broccoli. You got to know that. But when you are effective in your.
Deontay Kyle
Community, when you are bringing a dollar value, a monetary value into your community and you have a black dollar that's circulating in your community, you're going to want to be more involved in the local politics.
Big Ice Cub
You're going to want to know who.
Deontay Kyle
The local politicians are.
Big Ice Cub
You're going to want to know what's.
Deontay Kyle
Going on, which are people locally.
Big Ice Cub
So my, my suggestion, my advocacy for.
Deontay Kyle
Young men getting in trades is not just a thing of like get to work.
Big Ice Cub
It's a thing of like not only get to work but like go get you some money. Go get a skill that you can.
Deontay Kyle
Turn into a tangible business and become an entrepreneur. The next generation of millionaires will be skilled tradesmen and skilled tradesmen that have entrepreneurial experience or entrepreneurial ambitions. If not partnering with somebody that is a business major, somebody that understands numbers and accounting, how to run businesses, and.
Big Ice Cub
Formulating your own team around marketing and.
Deontay Kyle
Getting your name out there, but also.
Big Ice Cub
Putting out a good product, putting out.
Deontay Kyle
A good service with professionalism and efficiency. Right?
Big Ice Cub
So this is the push.
Deontay Kyle
The push is, is not even about skilled trades.
Big Ice Cub
The real push is getting black men.
Deontay Kyle
Young black men into high probability outcomes. Right? We need high probability outcomes.
Big Ice Cub
The top 1% of athletes will go to the league. The top 1% of 1% will become stars. The rest of them, they one foot in, one foot out.
Deontay Kyle
You have a high risk of injury.
Big Ice Cub
Injury athletics. We're just talking to Antonio Valentine. One year in the league, one year for the Giants and he was out. And there's a lot more Antonio Valentine. Valentino.
Deontay Kyle
Valentine. Valentino.
Big Ice Cub
Antonio Valentino. The there's a lot more Antonio Valentino's.
Deontay Kyle
Than there are Saquon Barkleys.
Big Ice Cub
For every.
Deontay Kyle
So if we talking about in the.
Big Ice Cub
NFL, I mean in the NBA you.
Deontay Kyle
Got 450 jobs including the bench. That's 450 jobs.
Big Ice Cub
If you not one of them starting five your career, I mean it's gonna be like late stage tmac. It's just how you end up on the spurs. You just revolving door. You'll be like Shaq on the Celtics Facts. But that's the career. These are men that had great careers and maybe due to injury or age, they started, you know, shopping them around. But these owners don't care about you.
Deontay Kyle
You're just a product to them.
Big Ice Cub
And you have to be the absolute best of the best. Now you talking about 450 jobs in the NBA it's 450 niggas playing basketball in your county.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Right now.
Big Ice Cub
Right now. If you at the basketball court right now.
Big Ice Cup Cat
360 windmill on a nigga right now, son.
Big Ice Cub
Go between the legs and duck on. Show the recruiter what you worth. If not, take off the jersey, put on the referee jacket.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh, shit.
Big Ice Cub
Start calling the games. Got a better chance of being a referee than you do got being in league. How many referee jobs is it? Even less.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Can you imagine all hood refereeing. All hood refereeing the games if you.
Big Ice Cub
Got on black and white stripes right now. Call a flake or foul for no reason. Their free throws are your free throws right now.
Deontay Kyle
No, it's crazy.
Big Ice Cub
So we talk about this from high probability, right?
Deontay Kyle
If there's only 450 jobs in the.
Big Ice Cub
NBA, then we look at that as.
Deontay Kyle
There'S 22 starting jobs and 32 teams.
Big Ice Cub
So 22 times 32. So 704 jobs, starting jobs. Now we will include 706, 708, then no, 706, including the punter in the kicker, right?
Big Ice Cup Cat
NBA or you talking NFL? NFL. Okay, NFL. Okay, okay.
Big Ice Cub
706 starting jobs. It's 700 niggas in your county playing football right now. If you got on cleats right now and you're not playing football, you playing football, go ahead and tie the cleats around your neck. Pick up that welding mask. Put the helmet down. Pick up the welding mask. Cause the likelihood of you going to the NFL is slim to fucking none.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Weld a helmet, nigga.
Big Ice Cub
Weld the helmet.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Weld the helmet, nigga.
Big Ice Cub
Yeah, man. Weld that together, man. Never. Well, the guardian helmet together. Make sure niggas is avoiding that cte. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Deontay Kyle
Weld helmet is insanity, my brother.
Big Ice Cub
But we need to, we need to invest in high probability outcomes. How many you know want to be rappers? It's. It's way more than 700 rappers in your county.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yo, the whole county raps for county.
Big Ice Cub
Everybody raps in for the county. It's a doctor rap. Never heard this before. What this bullshit is. If you drive an Uber right now, stop playing your motherfucking mixtape and put on the rap caviar, nigga. Go to Grits and Eggs Radio Facts on Spotify and play our mix right now.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yo, the Uber drive pull up plan. This mixtape is insane.
Big Ice Cub
What they be doing, it should be underproduced. The bar garbage is in a lot.
Deontay Kyle
Of noise in the background.
Big Ice Cub
What the fuck are we listening to?
Deontay Kyle
Be like, purchase your track today.
Big Ice Cub
Like, what the fuck, nigga? You ain't even about to be live.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Mixtapes dot com.
Big Ice Cub
Yeah, like, what the fuck? The fuck is this? Yo, the way that mixtape niggas would put up, take up ad space on the fucking tape.
Co-host/Guest
The.
Deontay Kyle
The Empire.
Big Ice Cub
The Empire, right? Listen. Go back and listen to one of them. Lil Wayne. My. We was so desensitized to that shit, to them drops. Yeah, go back and listen to it now. It's like every 10 seconds. The Empire.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It takes two minutes to get to the song.
Big Ice Cub
First of all, just to start. Just to start the song. Just to get the song started.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Evil Empire.
Deontay Kyle
Damn, son, where'd you find this?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Trapaholics mixtapes, right?
Big Ice Cub
Yeah, run that shit back, bruh. It's gangsta grills. Bastards. She got DJ drama. Mr. Thanksgiving holiday. Holiday season. They call me Baracko Drama. Wrong with this.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Just screaming.
Big Ice Cub
Just screaming. That's a host of the mixtape. Just yelling your name. Swamp Izzo.
Deontay Kyle
Son.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It was a lot to drop some goddamn mixtapes. Made sure we knew who they were.
Big Ice Cub
They gonna make sure you know who he is. Yeah, they're gonna make sure.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
The Empire.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Now that made millions. Oh, my God, he made millions.
Big Ice Cub
The Empire.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That nigga made so much money, you never seen his face, Smoke. Never seen that nigga face.
Deontay Kyle
Listen, you gotta understand, these niggas was like, okay, we're gonna get the hottest artist and we gonna market 10 times per track.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
And it's like. Like Gucci, man. Mixtapes.
Deontay Kyle
Oh, my God.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
If that bitch was hosted by.
Deontay Kyle
Fuck, man, I can't think of the dude who used to always host him. Hold on. Look at this shit.
Big Ice Cub
Gucci, man.
Deontay Kyle
Mixtapes, bro. It was a nigga that used to host them mixtapes. And it would be like every goddamn every song, bruh.
Big Ice Cub
It's like he starting that bitch back the first you getting into the shit. Oh, you talking about trapaholics.
Deontay Kyle
No, it wasn't Trapaholics, though. It was another nigga, bruh. It was. Hold on.
Big Ice Cub
It was. It was this nigga, Superstar J. Quick.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh, yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Oh, my God, bro, he's spamming that shit. He not finna let you get your shit off. Bro, I would be mad as fuck if he was hosting my shit. It's Superstar J. Quick.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, he was just yelling that shit.
Big Ice Cub
All over the big stadium. Run that shit back. Like listening to this for two, two minutes and 30 seconds, bro. Yeah, I ain't heard the first eight bars yet, man. I stab money like it grow off a tree. My plug. Superstar J. Superstar.
Deontay Kyle
Superstar.
Big Ice Cub
Like, God damn, bro. We know Your name.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We know who you are.
Deontay Kyle
We know your name. That was keeping fed in that fucking mix industry.
Big Ice Cub
But high probability outcomes.
Deontay Kyle
We thinking about sports and entertainment. Right?
Big Ice Cub
The, the. The path that you got to take.
Deontay Kyle
To be a great actor.
Big Ice Cub
Most of the best actors are in.
Deontay Kyle
Their mid-40s, mid-50s for sure.
Big Ice Cub
You understand what I'm saying? It's because they're. That, it's because they're a list celebrities.
Deontay Kyle
That you can't tell how old they are.
Big Ice Cub
Cuz. George Clooney, like 70 and he's fired.
Deontay Kyle
He.
Big Ice Cub
I mean he's amazing.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Denzel just started looking old. 70, he just started looking old, just started getting wrinkles. Morgan Freeman, been old forever, but he's immaculate. Immaculate.
Big Ice Cup Cat
N. Play God.
Big Ice Cub
He was born to be old.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Play God, son.
Deontay Kyle
Oh God.
Big Ice Cub
Samuel L. Jackson, he just started getting.
Deontay Kyle
Some age on him.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
The thing is, is like Sam Jackson was motherfucking 60 something years old in Lakeview Terrace.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Not only that, they are all on stage. They love.
Big Ice Cub
They're all actors, they all perform in plays. They're like classically trained actors. So you gotta understand the path that it take to get even. There is such a rigid path. First of all, before you even start making money. You know how many people just go ahead and throw in the towel before they start making money? Because you gotta be so passionate about that shit. Unless it's nepotism. But to get it out the mud as an actor. Sweet.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It's about to still get another mud. And they've been, and they've been 20 years.
Big Ice Cub
20 years. You understand what I'm saying? You. We. Omar Dorsey.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
You know what I'm saying? Like been in, been in, been in the same. Been in film for 20 years and.
Deontay Kyle
And still hasn't got a leading role.
Big Ice Cub
He's been a co. Lead.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
And he's also been like a very significant extra or, or supporting cast. Right.
Big Ice Cub
Not a lead. But we have to, we have to.
Deontay Kyle
Get our young men involved in high probability outcomes.
Big Ice Cub
First of all, 99, if 99% of you niggas aren't gonna make it.
Deontay Kyle
Those ain't good odds.
Big Ice Cub
Only 1% of you gonna make it. Only 1% of that 1% is gonna do anything significant. If you know who the best is in a profession that's a low probability outcome. You don't know the best plumber, you don't know the best plumber, you don't. You don't know the best welder, you don't know the best electrician, you don't know the best doctor. You might know the best in your area.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Amongst yourselves. That very person to person. You ask somebody who the best doctor is, they gonna tell you they doctor, who the best dentist, they gonna tell you who Dade Dentist is. And you can get 20 different answers from 20 different people. That's a high probability outcome. And they all getting money. They all get money. We have a community of young men that want millions of dollars and have never had $10,000 liquid. Never held $30,000 liquid, 50,000. Never had $100,000 liquid.
Deontay Kyle
But you want a million dollars.
Big Ice Cub
And then you surprised when these niggas end up on drugs. When these niggas end up hyper, hyper, Hyper. Hyper consumers. Hyper materialistic, hyper tricking. I mean, supreme tricking.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Supreme clientele on the tricking.
Deontay Kyle
I mean.
Big Ice Cub
I mean, God damn. God damn. Bands will make her dance.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It ain't tricking if you got it.
Big Ice Cub
It ain't tricking if you got all that goofy ass shit. It's still tricking even if you got it.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You still tricking off.
Big Ice Cub
You're still tricking.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Nigga dancing in the video with his shirt off. Yeah, nigga. It's tricking.
Big Ice Cub
It's tricking.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You're tricking, my bro. It's okay.
Big Ice Cub
It's okay. You're a trick. Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
You're a john.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It's okay.
Deontay Kyle
And that's okay. But we have to. We have to call a thing a thing. You gotta call a spade a motherfucking thing. A spade, baby.
Big Ice Cub
Can't just be sitting out here lying now.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah, yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Make yourself feel good.
Co-host/Guest
Shit, yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Cause you a trick.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Hey, we all trick for the one we want.
Deontay Kyle
Hey, hey, listen.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We'll trick it all, baby.
Deontay Kyle
We trick it all, baby. Hey, we all some tricks.
Big Ice Cub
Tricks ain't just for kids, baby.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Yeah, baby. It's men with money. Trick it all. Call me Trick Daddy.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Call me Trick Daddy's crazy.
Big Ice Cub
You seen this?
Deontay Kyle
Trick Daddy. Yo.
Big Ice Cub
What?
Deontay Kyle
All right, let me tell y' all something. At some point, the honorary degree has got to have a limit.
Big Ice Cub
Trick Daddy got an honorary degree.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Trick Daddy and Trina from wet school, I think.
Deontay Kyle
Bethune Cookman, if I'm not mistaken. Hold on. This is right.
Big Ice Cub
It's a lot of trick.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That is Trinity at baton Cookman.
Deontay Kyle
We're not going to disparage abc.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I'm just keeping it real, son. Just keeping it real. Them niggas from Miami, they go on the batun, baby.
Deontay Kyle
All the hood down there. Bethune. First of all, this don't even make sense. What Tree Daddy and Trina got Honorary degrees from Texas University.
Big Ice Cup Cat
What Texas University Giving them out.
Deontay Kyle
What the fuck did they do for Texas.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Angle. That was 1.3. There's on top of the world him.
Deontay Kyle
And treating and that was that. That point has long.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, it's long gone but this on top of the world at one point.
Big Ice Cub
I'm old freaky old city, old D ass, collard green netball eating ass Always wearing my jeans bag and sagging old door to door to side cack sugar water sandwich. Oh bad always mo, always in trouble. The teacher ain't like me make it so bad. Purr herself more like this way I did got st.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That that was a goddamn hit.
Big Ice Cub
That was a hit. That be craz that Shout out.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Shout out to the honorary. Shout out to the honorary doctorate. Yeah, from Texas University. Trick daddy.
Big Ice Cup Cat
See how fast she go off the rails on.
Big Ice Cub
She just go off the rails and you too. If you chase a high probability outcome, you can get honorary.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah, yeah.
Big Ice Cub
You get a real degree. Yeah, go get a real one.
Big Ice Cup Cat
God damn.
Big Ice Cub
Cause that nigga made Thug holiday. You ain't got. You ain't no thug.
Deontay Kyle
That's right. That's right.
Big Ice Cub
You ain't no thug, baby. You don't need. You don't need an honorary degree. You go get the real one. Yeah, you don't need an honorary degree. You can go get you a certificate. You become a master electrician, a master plumber. You make more money than trick daddy making right now.
Deontay Kyle
Hey, for sure.
Big Ice Cub
Eat a booty game. Eat smash if you want to. Man, we ain't getting that nigga's bedroom. I don't control what niggas do in their bedroom. I'm just saying. I'm saying this trick Daddy son, he did insane. God damn.
Deontay Kyle
The mics is back hot.
Caller Tay
All right.
Big Ice Cub
Just saying be mindful where you put in your mouth.
Deontay Kyle
You know what I'm saying?
Big Ice Cub
Just be mindful where you put in your mouth.
Deontay Kyle
Big Cat.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Let's go, let's go, let's go.
Co-host/Guest
So let's get out of here.
Deontay Kyle
So we had to.
Big Ice Cub
We had to engage with these youth.
Deontay Kyle
From a place of where we. Where we. We're giving them options that they can actually achieve.
Big Ice Cub
So you could be the best basketball.
Deontay Kyle
Player in the world and still be land biased.
Big Ice Cub
You could be the best basketball player.
Deontay Kyle
In the world and tear your ACL in practice.
Big Ice Cub
You could be the best football player in the world and not be big.
Deontay Kyle
Enough to compete with these grown ass men in this league.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We know somebody who was supposed to go to the NBA and didn't go.
Deontay Kyle
To the NBA, Juwan. It breaks my heart every goddamn time. Boy supposed to go to Georgia Tech.
Big Ice Cup Cat
God damn. He was supposed to be in retirement right now. Yeah, he's supposed to be retired right now.
Big Ice Cub
He'd have been good.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Listen, man, you gotta chase high probability outcomes.
Big Ice Cub
The reason how they keep us economically insecure is by keeping our men chasing dreams.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Our men chasing lottery tickets are men.
Deontay Kyle
Chasing low probability outcomes.
Big Ice Cub
If our black youth get into high probability outcomes, we will see the change that we want to see in our.
Deontay Kyle
Community in one generation, guaranteed.
Big Ice Cub
Why do you think that they take away Job Corps?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Why you think it took away trades out of high school?
Big Ice Cub
Trades out of high school? Because they don't. They don't want you in a successful working force. They want you in the workforce. That school prepares you for the warehouse.
Co-host/Guest
Yep.
Big Ice Cub
They want you in a work for that. School prepares you for riding that forklift or going to jail. That's really what it is. And nine times out of 10, get out of jail and go to that.
Deontay Kyle
Warehouse because it's the only place to accept you.
Big Ice Cub
It's not the school. It's the school. To prison. To warehouse.
Deontay Kyle
Pipeline.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Evil.
Big Ice Cub
Evil shit. $8 an hour moving pallets.
Deontay Kyle
Lord have mercy.
Big Ice Cub
And you're not even getting into the company. You're going in through a temp service. So after 90 days, they just get rid of your ass. You could be the best worker. They still get rid of your ass because they just want to cycle people in. They don't want to put people in a position where they can really win. If you chase a high probability outcome to guarantee you if you're competent enough, if you know your basics, reading and writing, if you know your basic math skills, the probability of you becoming a successful plumber, welder, electrician, H vac technician, brick mason, the probability is through the roof. 85 to 90%. The only 10% I account for is human error and a lack of ambition. But we have to engage with our black men from a place of community and love and not necessity.
Deontay Kyle
Right?
Big Ice Cub
Not necessity. About my end goal, I need you to vote.
Deontay Kyle
So I'm engaged with you.
Big Ice Cub
I need numbers. So I'm engaged with you. No, we got to. We have to. It has to be community and love. And the cost of community is inconvenient. It might not be convenient for you to go down and be rejected by these young men, but it's necessary. It might not be convenient for you on your campaign trail to not go to every fucking barbershop in the city or Every church in the city and go to the block. But some of your constituents is ex drug dealers, ex street niggas, ex gang members. And they can go with you. And they know how to talk to these young men. And don't get no. And don't get no pirou. That. That's now a pastor. Don't get no pimp. That's now a pastor.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Go get a pirate instead of pirou.
Big Ice Cub
Go get a pirate as a pirou. But. But he a welder.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
He'll still knock some off, but he welded.
Big Ice Cub
He a big stepper. Yeah, yeah, but he a great welder.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Working 60 hours a week.
Big Ice Cub
He working 60. He ain't got time to bang.
Big Ice Cup Cat
No, but he'll throw that pee up.
Big Ice Cub
Yeah. I mean.
Big Ice Cup Cat
A working gang members, that's what you need.
Big Ice Cub
Go get you a crip. That's in a culinary.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, cooking.
Big Ice Cub
He's cripping, but he got a catering service.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Hey, that mean he ain't don't get no crip. He a Christian. No, no Christian crips. No, we don't want that Christian. We want crips. That's crapping.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, they got a little something on the side.
Big Ice Cub
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, the homies know not to call him.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Is he working? He working. Yeah, he cooking.
Big Ice Cup Cat
He cooking for the block.
Big Ice Cub
He had the crip cooked out every weekend. But he don't want to beat that. He don't want to see these young crash out because he, he, he. He come from the penitentiary. Yeah, he done crashed out before. But he got enough stain and respect where he's like, look, bro, we ain't doing that.
Deontay Kyle
We ain't moving like that.
Big Ice Cub
We moving effectively. We need reform gangsters to get at these. These. These new. These new gangsters, these fake gangsters at that. Because a lot of you niggas is gangster. And you live in a two story.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Craziest shit I've ever seen in my life.
Big Ice Cub
A lot of you got walk in closets. You got a Picasso in your house. You got a basement. You got a basket out in your house.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You got a finished basement.
Big Ice Cub
You got a finished basement. You down there rapping about drills. Shut the fuck up. Ain't no more rapping. Wrap a car. Yeah, do that. Wrap a car. Wrap a car. Wrap your motherfucking. Wrap your mind around something that you.
Deontay Kyle
Can actually do, man. Wrap your mind around. Stop being lazy.
Big Ice Cub
Cause a lot of it is laziness.
Deontay Kyle
A lot of it is want to go down the path of least resistance.
Big Ice Cub
That street shit look. Least resistant. That's the most resistant on a dying. You want to go to prison?
Deontay Kyle
What are we talking about?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Stop trying to impress these girls, man.
Deontay Kyle
Listen, bro, the girls are impressed by the. Who ain't trying to impress them. I want to talk about epigenetics. Okay?
Big Ice Cub
Okay.
Deontay Kyle
So we're predisposed to certain behaviors because of our genetics things.
Big Ice Cub
Trauma will get in your genetic code. So a lot of you niggas can't.
Deontay Kyle
Help but to be coons.
Big Ice Cub
But a lot of you niggas is going to fight the power.
Deontay Kyle
You know what I'm saying?
Big Ice Cub
A lot of you niggas gonna use your voice and use your platform to push for the people.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Hey, there we go, nigga.
Big Ice Cub
I come from. I. I come from their lineage. Hear me, huh? Somebody ran away in my lineage.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Fight the power.
Big Ice Cub
They ran away, huh? But.
Deontay Kyle
I want to talk about white epigenetics, okay?
Big Ice Cub
Dementia will have a white person forget they name. They won't know their children name. They won't know the faces of their children. They won't know where the fuck they from when they birthday is. But they will never forget to be racist.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It's in their DNA.
Deontay Kyle
It's in your DNA.
Big Ice Cub
I don't know.
Deontay Kyle
I don't talk about racism from a place of something I'm thinking about.
Big Ice Cub
Nigga, this is a fact. These niggas will forget everything. They'll wake up in the morning and not know where they at, but they won't forget to call you a nigger. They won't forget to get your black ass hands off me. They don't ever forget to be racist. They forget every goddamn thing else. It's in their DNA.
Deontay Kyle
All right, so next time you hanging.
Big Ice Cub
Out with the whites, trade lightly, huh?
Deontay Kyle
Tokens get spent if you're looking around and you're the only black person in a sea of white people, my brother, they gonna have your ass out there dancing. Get out of there, brother.
Big Ice Cub
Get out of there. I'm gonna let Jamal do that one.
Deontay Kyle
Dance that tick tock dance. Don't be a dancing Negro.
Big Ice Cub
Another thing that we do is we.
Deontay Kyle
Start telling our secrets. Gotta stop that. You gotta stop telling your secrets for engagement online. Mm.
Big Ice Cub
Sexy.
Deontay Kyle
So long. Hey, a lot of hoodoo references in there.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It is.
Big Ice Cub
I know them.
Deontay Kyle
I know them references.
Big Ice Cub
I grow up in a sudden. I grew up in the South. Yeah, I grew up with a hoodoo ass grandma. Hey, I grow some hoodoo ass aunties.
Deontay Kyle
Mm.
Big Ice Cub
Guess what you'll never catch me doing. Commenting, telling niggas what Shit mean y' all niggas give niggas a blueprint to appropriate and then cry and complain when niggas appropriate. How about you learn if you in the comment section right now and somebody ask you, what does this mean? What does that mean? You just shut the fuck up. Can someone explain this? No.
Big Ice Cup Cat
If you know, you know.
Big Ice Cub
What happened to secrets? Freemasons ain't telling you what that shit mean. Niggas spend hours researching that make spooky YouTube documentaries. Hang you up till three in the morning.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Bug ey like a tripping looking at shadows.
Big Ice Cub
Yeah, take that.
Deontay Kyle
Take that coat off the door.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh, they watch, see, See a car lights through the. Through your blinds in the morning.
Big Ice Cub
They watching me.
Deontay Kyle
They got where they coming, son.
Big Ice Cub
Where that van come from?
Big Ice Cup Cat
That man went out here last night, son.
Big Ice Cub
It's out here this morning documentary. That's how bugged out that had you.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, for sure.
Big Ice Cub
Every time. See a checkerboard floor.
Deontay Kyle
Oh, my God, what?
Big Ice Cup Cat
2010 to 2000.
Big Ice Cub
Like what? 14 checkerboard floor. Now my antennas go up on the chokehold. If I see hiding that hand. Yeah, like this. I see hiding that hand in the jacket. Go all the way back to Napoleon, showing him do that. You start seeing on the red carpet doing, oh, oh, 33 degrees.
Big Ice Cup Cat
My attendance is up.
Big Ice Cub
Oh, I'm woke. That's when got for real got woke between Illuminati. Yeah, illuminati. Documentaries on YouTube and Hidden Colors ain't been the same. Streets like cracks. She's like, it was a reverse CIA.
Deontay Kyle
It was reverse CIA.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Dr. Umar. Them hit the streets like cracks, man.
Deontay Kyle
What?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Niggas popped up out of nowhere too.
Deontay Kyle
Nigga activated many of pineal glands, brother.
Big Ice Cub
Many but the absol drop pineal gland.
Deontay Kyle
We ain't been the same since, son.
Big Ice Cub
Ever since found about their third eye.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, third I've been open.
Deontay Kyle
Oh, my.
Big Ice Cub
Ain't never gonna be calcified again.
Deontay Kyle
We have to get k pop culture, man.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
At the very least, what you can.
Deontay Kyle
Do is learn to ignore people.
Big Ice Cub
But you may be genetically predisposed to spilling the fucking tea. You may have a chatty ass patty in your lineage. Tell massive what the plans is. Stop telling niggas. Stop explaining shit to white people. Stop explaining shit to anybody that don't know if you know, you know. Y' all be posting content trying to get engagement while you telling niggas your secrets. Fuck. What part of the game is that? That'll be like if I. If I got damn. If I sell drugs and I'm making content about my hand to hand transactions.
Deontay Kyle
And then I'm surprised when I go to jail.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Hey man, common sense ain't so common no more, bro.
Deontay Kyle
Nah man, somebody gotta yell at you.
Big Ice Cub
Dumb ass niggas if you a coon right now.
Big Ice Cup Cat
If you a coon. Hey yo.
Deontay Kyle
Son, go pick up black and fuck history, man. Hey, you know what I'm saying? Go do the fucking knowledge, bro. Do the knowledge.
Big Ice Cub
So. Woo. What a week.
Deontay Kyle
What a week. What a week. So Chicago.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh my God.
Deontay Kyle
So they are, they have ICE agents.
Big Ice Cub
Detaining.
Deontay Kyle
Black Americans in Chicago. Black children in Chicago.
Big Ice Cub
There's a little known fact about Chicago.
Deontay Kyle
That there is a wealth of Venezuelan migrants in Chicago selling flowers and chocolate. They are. They outside at three in the morning playing on the stop sign. So with Trump knowing that now, now.
Big Ice Cub
When we say we're gonna go to.
Deontay Kyle
Chicago and crack down on crime.
Big Ice Cub
Yes.
Deontay Kyle
Black people are implicated in that.
Big Ice Cub
Yes. Black people always knew we was on the chopping block. Yes.
Deontay Kyle
Okay.
Big Ice Cub
Black people never said it wasn't gonna happen to them. Cause black people know it's gonna happen to them. Black people are not stupid.
Deontay Kyle
This is our history in this country. Just because you don't know it doesn't mean we don't.
Big Ice Cub
Just because you don't understand that we've been fighting in this country since we.
Deontay Kyle
Got here doesn't mean we don't. We know we've been fighting.
Big Ice Cub
We know it's always now. It's never next. It's always now. We try to explain this shit to you niggas because you're next.
Deontay Kyle
But it's peace, love and liberation for all people that are oppressed in this country.
Big Ice Cub
I think that every city that ICE shows up in, the working class of that city should do a general strike.
Deontay Kyle
Until they get rid of ice. Until ICE is outside the city, nobody goes to work.
Big Ice Cub
If ICE is on the streets, I'm in the sheets.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I'm in the motherfucking bed.
Big Ice Cub
I'm in the bed, nigga. We ain't even going outside today. We ain't even going outside. I'm gonna give me a 10 gallon bucket from Walmart of emergency food. I'm in the crib eating MREs until ice is off the street. That's what it should be. We're not in one day of protest. No, get the fuck up out these. We ain't going to work from the top to the bottom. This is how you have class solidarity. But this is also how you get the things done. If you, if you are the type of nigger that wants Ice on your street. You are an enemy of America. You are a Nazi sympathizer. Speaking of Nazis, a lot of farmers, soybean farmers, specifically.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Across the Midwest, across those Great Plains.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Are being hit in their motherfucking pockets.
Big Ice Cub
In a pockets. Trump has made it where their crop isn't selling because Trump is outsourcing a lot of their crops and the importation.
Deontay Kyle
Of their crops from Argentina.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Coincidence?
Deontay Kyle
I think not. I think not. Now, let me tell you a little something about Argentina. Argentina is in South America. Everybody in Argentina is white.
Big Ice Cub
How did that happen? That's where Nazis fleed to escape persecution in Germany.
Deontay Kyle
Now, if we was anything like Germany, we would have persecuted anybody that was a part of the Confederacy. As I think that going forward, once.
Big Ice Cub
We get our together, anybody that was maga, you gotta go.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh, you gotta go.
Big Ice Cub
We're gonna bring. This is what we're gonna do, huh? We send in everybody that wanted to make America great again. We're sending you to Iceland now.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We're gonna send them to Greenland, Send.
Deontay Kyle
The back to Europe.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It's cold and green. It's ice out there.
Deontay Kyle
You're going back home, okay?
Big Ice Cub
Because everybody got problems with migrants and immigrants. Until it was them fucking Norwegians coming.
Deontay Kyle
Over here to steal land or.
Big Ice Cub
Or them Norwegians coming over here and being given land. Land that was promised to black people. Oh, it wasn't an issue with migration in. When you niggas was going west in search of gold, and they was giving you land and they was giving you houses for 10 racks.
Deontay Kyle
Hmm.
Big Ice Cub
No problem with immigration then. No problem with immigration. When them immigrants look like you the original immigrant white people, you got some fucking. Y' all niggas got some gall on y'.
Deontay Kyle
All.
Big Ice Cub
These niggas are gaudy. These niggas are audacious to be talking about immigrants. You talking about immigrants? You mean Mexicans? You live in El Paso. You live in Los Angeles.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Eat Mexican food every weekend.
Big Ice Cub
You eat Mexican food every motherfucking. You talking about. You're talking about ice. And you live in a state called Milwaukee.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Milwaukee.
Big Ice Cub
You live in Chattanooga. Fuck.
Big Ice Cup Cat
You live in Seminole County.
Big Ice Cub
Fuck wrong with these? You outside of Alligator Alcatraz in Volusia County. What? What the fuck is wrong with you crackers?
Deontay Kyle
You niggas on new drugs, man. And drug is audacity.
Big Ice Cub
So Trump.
Deontay Kyle
Is outsourcing and importing from the descendants of Nazis who flee persecution.
Big Ice Cub
Argentina is in South America. Funny thing about South America is them as black folks. So how the fuck they get rid of all the black people? Well, they did what they called ethnic cleansing. So for a long time, the only black people in Argentina, even if they were natives, because they were natives, because ain't no white people in a fucking South America. So a lot of times it was the same thing. They cleansed, they did a racial cleansing, an ethnic cleansing. And if you was dark skinned, you could only be in a position of servitude. Then if you go to Argentina and you see where all the black people.
Deontay Kyle
Live, they live in some of the most toxic, polluted environments out there. Environmental racism. The Nazis be Nazian.
Big Ice Cub
If you are an ICE agent, you're a fucking Nazi. That's the way I see it. That's the only way to see it. White people ain't gonna see it until it affect them. But it was always gonna affect you, nigga. He don't care about your broke ass. The reason why he want the migrants off of your farmland so you can't afford to harvest. If you can't afford to harvest, you can't afford to farm. He can take your land and then he'll import it from the descendants of Nazis. All day labor is being done by black South Americans. It's not a hard thing to figure out. But you niggas is mostly on welfare anyway.
Deontay Kyle
Let's talk about Trump and how he does these type of things. How does Trump keep his name in the news?
Big Ice Cub
He got a nigga named Patel.
Deontay Kyle
That'S.
Big Ice Cub
Telling white people he'll see him in.
Deontay Kyle
Valhalla and it look like he off a fresh bump of cocaine. All the time. All the time. Eyes wider than a bitch. An Indian that think he a white man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
There's nothing more dangerous than an Indian thinking he a white man.
Big Ice Cub
It's the most dangerous nigga on earth. It's a nigga, he's an Indian. I think he's a white man. He ain't never seen the life of pie pissing Patel.
Deontay Kyle
Hey, yo.
Big Ice Cub
There'S nothing more dangerous than a bug eyed brown man that think he a white man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Just because their hair's straight.
Big Ice Cub
Because their hair straight.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah, they told Charlie Kirk, I'll see you on Valhalla.
Co-host/Guest
No, you won't.
Big Ice Cup Cat
No, you will not.
Deontay Kyle
Nigga.
Big Ice Cub
What do you want? All them fucking gods, autumn goddamn gods in your culture.
Deontay Kyle
And you chose a cracker to worship.
Big Ice Cub
Autumn gods in your Krishna. Yeah, the monkey, the elephant. It's mad gods. It's a thousand gods. And you chose to worship a white man. You a fucking loser. He met your FBI director so he could break the federal laws, you fucking idiot. White People, niggas that tokens are so easily used. Imagine the shame, the shame that niggas that's related to you gotta feel when they see your incompetent brown ass on tv acting like you a cracker. We looking at you, we see you being a coon. Gotta be like body dysmorphia. Yeah, Sammy Sosa.
Deontay Kyle
Just Sammy Sosa.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Good Lord.
Deontay Kyle
That's our bingo card, too. Anytime we start talking about.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Cooning Sammy Sosa.
Big Ice Cub
Number one. Number one.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Bleached himself into invisibility.
Big Ice Cub
Good Lord, he ain't got the dark on his knuckles. He got it right.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
He got rid of all the darkness.
Big Ice Cup Cat
It's a hell of a cream that can afford.
Big Ice Cub
God damn. He got bleacher green with the steroids in it. And they can still swing a bat, baby.
Deontay Kyle
Bobby, I swing her back like a white man.
Big Ice Cub
Ain't no Pedro Martinez. Pedro Martinez.
Deontay Kyle
A real.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, for sure.
Big Ice Cub
That cracker that. That fat white man, Don Zimmer, charged him out. Pedro threw that on his neck.
Deontay Kyle
Man, I ain't rushing no goddamn Puerto Rican either. Nigga, this nigga stupid as fuck.
Big Ice Cub
This is a white audacity that you rushing. You watching a nigga that's in the.
Deontay Kyle
Prime of his athletic career.
Big Ice Cup Cat
And he Puerto Rican.
Big Ice Cub
And he Puerto Rican. Nigga threw a sinker. Threw your dumbass right into the ground. He rolled. That nigga rolled on the ground. Nigga hit the ground and tumbled, started rolling. Hey, yo, the way that Trump can.
Deontay Kyle
Effectively keep us talking about him, as I am now, is because he has the family on his payroll. The family that understand entertainment and influence better than any family probably in American history. The McMahons. Vince McMahon took wrestling from a regional, very niche thing into a global sensation.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
He understands entertainment and attention and media like nobody else.
Big Ice Cup Cat
He gets it.
Big Ice Cub
He gets it.
Deontay Kyle
Trump, being the businessman he is, is like, I'm gonna enlist. That's why Linda McMahon is up there. That's why you see Triple h and Stephanie McMahon.
Big Ice Cub
That's why you see Dana White.
Deontay Kyle
Niggas that understand how to entertain and keep attention. And they threw it through sports entertainment. But Trump is doing it through media and news entertainment. He has turned the news into entertainment thing.
Co-host/Guest
Yes.
Deontay Kyle
Vince McMahon had to sell the WWE to Saudi Arabia.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Jesus Christ.
Big Ice Cub
EA Sports just sold to Saudi Arabia.
Deontay Kyle
And then we got all the comedians. You can't come back here and talk about nothing. You can't talk no shit about America. If you went to Saudi Arabia, baby.
Big Ice Cub
I don't want to hear that.
Deontay Kyle
Well, in America, if they Perform in America, it's just like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. These niggas are still actively engaged in a slave trade of people that look like you. Ask them Libyans how they feel about Saudi Arabia.
Big Ice Cub
In any city where ICE is, there.
Deontay Kyle
Should be a general strike among the.
Big Ice Cub
Working class because we are following rules made by people who break them. If the rules ain't good for you.
Deontay Kyle
They ain't good for me neither.
Big Ice Cub
If you make the rules just to break the rules and persecute those who break the rules because they don't got.
Deontay Kyle
No money, I ain't following the rules neither.
Big Ice Cub
History is not changed by niggas who follow the rules. History is not interrupted. History is not made. History is not created. The status quo is not broken by people who follow the rules. If you scare, go to church, because if they come in.
Deontay Kyle
Listen, bro.
Big Ice Cub
If all of these things.
Deontay Kyle
Are testing grounds, D.C. was a testing ground. They take it to Chicago as a testing ground. They're going to go to these places that have. That have redlining and segregation and housing first.
Big Ice Cub
So they can target certain people.
Deontay Kyle
Because that apartment complex they target in Chicago is a predominantly black apartment complex. And they have children out there.
Big Ice Cub
Now, black people going missing, it's not anything that's new to black Americans. We had in 2016, I think there.
Deontay Kyle
Was 400,000 black girls go missing. Not a peep. Native Americans, a lot of them go missing every year. Not a peep.
Big Ice Cub
If a little white girl go missing, they will have that.
Deontay Kyle
They will have her on the fucking news.
Big Ice Cub
They will have. They will.
Deontay Kyle
You will see images of niggas walking through the woods looking. Looking for her.
Big Ice Cub
What's that white lady name? Amber.
Deontay Kyle
Amber Alert. Amber, the white lady, the. The blonde hair, white lady that's always like reporting on, like that.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I don't know her name.
Big Ice Cub
Yeah, she gonna be on there from cnn.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Oh, yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
I don't know her name.
Deontay Kyle
I know you talking. She got this specific looking haircut. Yeah, black eyeliner.
Big Ice Cub
Following rules made by people who break.
Deontay Kyle
The rules is not going to bring change.
Big Ice Cub
You cannot be afraid of the consequences.
Deontay Kyle
Of people who, who. Who essentially want you dead or detained.
Big Ice Cub
When they get rid of the.
Deontay Kyle
The land.
Big Ice Cub
They'Re going to replace.
Deontay Kyle
Listen, this is the thing. It's not. This doesn't take to me. It's not a rocket science thing. Once they seize all your farmland.
Big Ice Cub
And then they arrest you for being homeless, you will then work the fields of.
Deontay Kyle
The farm that you used to own for free.
Big Ice Cub
Ain't that cold?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Cold blooded game, baby.
Big Ice Cub
And you still point a finger at.
Deontay Kyle
Black people for all your problems and Mexicans for all your problems. A lot of modern inventions that you use to this day, your favorite was made by black people, invented by black people.
Big Ice Cub
The industry of food as you know.
Deontay Kyle
It is propped up by Mexican workers. Every kitchen and every restaurant across America is propped up by migrant workers.
Big Ice Cub
So all the joys of life about America is not propped up by anybody that look like you.
Deontay Kyle
Because white people think they the supervisors of humanity.
Big Ice Cub
They think you think it's your fucking birthright to tell people what the fuck.
Deontay Kyle
To do while you do nothing but criticize and cry. Trump has proposed a bailout for farmers.
Big Ice Cub
He proposing a bailout for a problem he created. It's not a bailout cuz it's not government funded. It's funded by taxpayers. So we're literally gonna pay people for a problem that he created. And in the comment section I seen, is this gonna include white farmers? Bitch, bitch. When has anything in this country not included white people? If anything, we know they're going to exclude black farmers.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
White people are. You're mentally ill. Something is wrong with you. You have a victim mentality and a victim complex that will that is keeping you from helping progress the world in any type of way. Because it's in your genetic code to be a fucking racist and a fucking loser and a fucking narcissist because you can have dementia and you will forget your children's names and you forget the.
Big Ice Cub
Day you was born.
Deontay Kyle
You'll forget the face of your mother, but you will not forget to be racist. We'll be right back after this commercial break.
Big Ice Cub
We back.
Deontay Kyle
All right, we back. Big Head, let's get into this. These voicemails at 657234. Eggs at 657-234-3447. To leave a voicemail. Let's get into it.
Caller with 44 acres
Peace and blessings. Praying for just all y'. All. Like what y' all got going on, man. I just got a couple questions. Big ass clip. Shout out to you, Beyonce, shout out to you. Not even questions. I sent an email maybe a few months ago. I have 44 acres in a city west of about 30 minutes west of Cleveland. And I'm trying to do some big things out here. A community village, education village. And I know that requires a lot of money, a lot of time, not even time, but just a lot of money and connections that I don't have. And I was just wondering what advice you have. Somebody who is looking to build community, build something for their community. And knowing that capitalism is a big factor in this, with not a lot of access to capital, trying to build this community village to just prevent all social determinants of health and kind of remove all those barriers.
Big Ice Cub
And I.
Caller with 44 acres
And it's a project that's probably gonna cost, you know, a lot of money. So, you know, not looking, obviously not saying if, you know, if y' all got it, you know, can y' all donate? But, I mean, yeah, do got it. That'd be love. But just, like, what advice would you have for somebody who's looking to do this thing on a giant level similar to, like, a Freedom School, Fannie, Lou Hamer, W.E.B. du Bois, or, you know, all of our legends before us who have done things. Booker T. Washington, things of that nature. So just looking for some advice. Peace and blessings.
Deontay Kyle
Well, I'll tell you this, brother.
Big Ice Cup Cat
He said 44 acres of land.
Deontay Kyle
So this is what we're gonna do. You are gonna reach out to me via email again and let me know. I'm the deontayantechyle.com. don't do the advice one. Do deontay deontay kyle.com. reach out to me, and we'll figure this out, because this could be a great start for. For a community growth. Community fundraising, mutual aid, and giving people, you know, a space. 44 acres. You could do a lot with 44 acres. You can do a lot with 44 acres. That's a city.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That's a small city.
Deontay Kyle
So let's keep that low.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, for sure.
Deontay Kyle
And we'll talk about this in private.
Big Ice Cub
Keep that low.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
All right. I might not even put this out now. We got to put it out, though. But email me deontayantechal.com in the subject line.
Big Ice Cub
Say 44 acres reached out to you.
Deontay Kyle
Via email or V mail.
Big Ice Cub
All right, let me let y'.
Caller with family question
All.
Big Ice Cub
When. When. When you send an email, when you.
Deontay Kyle
Send a voicemail and it maxes out at three minutes and then you call out with more, call back one more. I'm not. We gotta keep it. We gotta keep it short and sweet, guys. We gotta keep it short and sweet. If you want to talk to me, join that Patreon $8. Cause once a month, we do take phone calls from the patronis, from the cousins live on our stream. So do that.
Caller Tay
Yo, what's up?
Caller with 44 acres
What's up? What's up?
Caller Tay
I'm Tay. I called in this other time, and I was talking about community work. I do. And y' all gave a good response and just emphasizing the value that the community work. I. I got going on and how that is for black people. And I appreciate the insight. First off, Second off, y' all boys was talking crazy about the wedding. Talking all of this like y' all ain't never been a wedding. Been to a wedding, man. You know, Mona, Leo and Stunner went crazy. I cannot do what they got going on. He got a different type of chick. But I need y' all to tap in, so I' ma tell y' all to stay today. I know y' all said y' all ain't never been. And no, I've not talked to my wife to be. But we get mad and about a month, but I'm in South Carolina. I ain't nothing but a little. You know what I'm saying? A little shoot down the road. Grits and eggs take over where, you.
Rapper/Poet
Know what I'm saying?
Caller Tay
We could get Big Cat on the mic. We got a new music Monday. After the recession and all of that. Well, we can't do all that. My wife ain't gonna go for that. But, you know, I just wanted to let y' all know we got that going on. I'm definitely always tapped into the pod. Y' all trying to pull up, take a flight to South Carolina. Y' all get up with me. I sent something to Instagram because I ain't know what your email was, but I was in the state today, October 25th, tap in and we're gonna get with y'.
Caller with 44 acres
All.
Caller Tay
I appreciate y'.
Big Ice Cub
All.
Caller Tay
I appreciate the love y' all spread. Y' all take it easy, bro.
Deontay Kyle
Send me that. Send me that. Save the date on the email.
Big Ice Cub
Deontay. Deontay Kyle.com.
Deontay Kyle
Email me and say wedding. Host our wedding or something like that.
Big Ice Cub
You know what I'm saying? We'll pull up. We'll pull up to the reception, kicking the door. We will pull up to the. We will host the reception.
Deontay Kyle
Without a doubt, for sure.
Big Ice Cub
All right, what's the budget? Yeah, what's the budget? We'll do it for cheap. We'll drive down there.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
I'll tell you what, you rent us a car, South Carolina. You rent us a car in a hotel. We'll do it for free. We'll do it for free, baby. If you get us a car and two night stay so we can sleep it off.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Cause we plan on getting drunk at the reception.
Big Ice Cub
We're getting fucked up at the reception. We're gonna get fucked up at the reception. Look, listen, my nigga, if you get.
Deontay Kyle
Us a car and a hotel, yeah.
Big Ice Cub
We will be There.
Deontay Kyle
We don't need two nights, do we? Just one night. We'll drive in.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
We'll drive in. Suited up.
Co-host/Guest
Yep.
Big Ice Cub
Suited up already.
Co-host/Guest
Yep.
Big Ice Cub
We getting out the rental with the suit on.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Tux on already.
Big Ice Cub
Yeah. Quick little bag.
Co-host/Guest
Yep.
Big Ice Cub
Quick little bag. You sent us the. Listen, my nigga, if you get us a car and a hotel room for one night now, don't put us in Super 8.
Deontay Kyle
No, don't put us in Super 8, my nigga.
Big Ice Cub
Put us in something decent, you know, Little Hilton. Yeah, Holiday. Holiday, yeah. I'm saying Holiday. And Express. Express.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Express, yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Express. Me, I don't want nothing. When I open the door, I'm outside. I'm outside.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We don't want that shit.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
I wanna open up my door to a hallway.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Inside.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Continental breakfast.
Big Ice Cub
I want a continental breakfast.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah. Know what I'm saying?
Big Ice Cup Cat
One night.
Deontay Kyle
Sleep some of that liquor off.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
You know what I'm saying? You could do that, just depending on where you is. In South Carolina.
Deontay Kyle
It's a quick little drive for us. Ain't nothing.
Big Ice Cub
Me and Big Cat, we'll be out.
Big Ice Cup Cat
There suited and booted.
Big Ice Cub
We'll suit and boot. We'll discuss. We'll discuss.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Hand me a bottle of Henny to the side, baby.
Deontay Kyle
Man, look, my. We'll be there. Color commentary for your wedding.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
You ain't never seen that.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Grits and eggs take over wedding.
Deontay Kyle
The grits and eggs.
Big Ice Cub
Prenuptials.
Deontay Kyle
I don't even know what the. See, I don't even know what the I'm talking about.
Big Ice Cub
But we're gonna figure it out. Get it together. We're gonna get the language together.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah. Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Hell, yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Hit me up, bro.
Deontay Kyle
Host your wedding.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
That's lit.
Big Ice Cup Cat
That's lit, sir.
Deontay Kyle
Your wife gonna be mad.
Big Ice Cup Cat
As mad as a. She might not, though.
Big Ice Cub
She might. She might not be some respectful.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
For sure.
Caller with family question
Mr. Kyle and Mr. Kat, I hope this message reaches you. Well, I'm 23. I'm from California, obviously. I'm a female, a black one at that. And I have a younger brother who is 14 years old. He'll be 15 soon. He's a freshman in high school. And our biological father is no longer in our lives. To sum it up, I have a restraining order against him and so did my mom. So that should tell you everything that you need to know. But we do have an amazing stepfather who did raise us very, very well. Still does. And he's amazing. But he's not black. He's white. And he's as white as they come. He's endowed in black culture and he loves black people. Obviously he's a great father, but I'm trying to figure out, along with the rest of my family how we can instill some more discipline in my brother. As my father that raised us is very passive and very chill. But these black boys are getting to an age now where they need a little bit more structure. He does play basketball, but I'm wondering, should we put him in some kind of taekwondo or fighting classes? Do we put him in football like boy scouts? What is your recommendation for a situation like this where you have a black boy who just needs a little bit more structure? He has all the love and support and financial needs met, but how would we instill more discipline in him? So, yeah, that's my biggest question right now. You'll probably hear from me again soon. Thank you. Love the pod.
Deontay Kyle
Combat sports are great for discipline. I think Taekwondo, Muay Thai, something like that. Something where it's something that he can apply in real life, but also will teach him discipline, patience, mindfulness, how to be still, things like that.
Big Ice Cub
Nah, he's just a teenager, man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, you're just a teenager.
Deontay Kyle
Teenager. A little rambunctious, my man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
They get a little rebellious coming into.
Deontay Kyle
The his own, you know, I got.
Big Ice Cub
A teenager getting a little rebellious, but we just deal with it accordingly.
Deontay Kyle
You know, having a white man present is not. He. He got to tread the water a little differently too. Even if he is a good guy, you know, he just got to tread.
Big Ice Cup Cat
A little different because, yeah, he can't be overly aggressive.
Co-host/Guest
Can't.
Deontay Kyle
Can't overly do it. Yeah, sound like a clan, man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, it's going to look. It's going to look crazy from the outside looking in.
Big Ice Cub
It's going to look crazy, you know what I'm saying? So I think. I think that you're already on the.
Deontay Kyle
Right path as far as addressing it. I think don't do too much, you know what I'm saying? We have to be mindful with our young people that they have a lot of feelings that they don't know how to express. So I think an outlet for combat sports is great. Even if he's already in organized sports, I think having an outlet where he can express and learn skills and how to deal with his emotions in a healthy way would be amazing for him. But I think just being patient and then when he's talking, listen, listen to his wants, listen to his needs, ask him what's going on. You know, these things are important. For young men to know how to address their feelings and how to speak on them in a healthy way. But the fact that you care so much shows that he has a lot of love around him and he's going to be just fine. He's going to be fine.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Hey Deontay and Big Ice Cup Cat. It's a little long but I've been a silent supporter of you from Memphis since your takes in the truck and I'm currently catching up on podcast videos right now. But now while I'm on sick leave and currently on episode 72 accidentally sent this to the wrong email. My bad Suki. Anyway, you briefly brought up HBCU HBCU students. That made me think about the attack on HBCU since the death of ck.
Big Ice Cub
Since college campuses was his main focal.
Deontay Kyle
Point for Turning Point USA. Anyway, September 23rd my HBCU Tennessee State University was invaded by alt right group called Fearless Debates and tried to rage bait students and eventually removed by campus. Now the incident is being retold as TSU students being a violent mob that is attacking the first Amendment right of speech. That's not the case because this group didn't have prior authorization to be on campus. Check check check check. Listen fuck them white people. Yeah y' all should be angry mob and beat them the fuck up cause if you showed your black ass up on they campuses it'll be anything goes. We have to stop caring about what white people's narratives are. Their narrative is 99% gonna be lies. They speak the language of lies. So first full stop fuck them and fuck that. I've seen some texts from an alumni and black Americans and leaning toward respectability politics and fuck them too. Fuck them too. These are niggas that are concerned with the white gaze G A Z E how white people view and perceive them trying to be a good boy. Fuck them. Giving them what they wanted and I wanted your take.
Big Ice Cub
You're not giving them what they wanted.
Deontay Kyle
They should be escorted out aggressively because.
Big Ice Cub
What they want to do is engage.
Deontay Kyle
With you and try to downplay your intellect and try to bring right right wing talking points to your campus racist rhetoric to your campus and then get.
Big Ice Cub
You to debate with them.
Deontay Kyle
There ain't no debate to be had about your fucking racism. Fuck them. They should have been put out promptly and aggressively. I feel like TSU did everything right. Other HBCUs have received bomb threats over the past week. Mega supporters are now calling for the defunding of HBCU HBCUs. TSU is at the forefront when just Last year, it was reported that TSU had been underfunded by over a billion dollars over the course of decades, which is not surprising when UT Knox receives majority of the funding. Anyway, my question is, what's your opinion, HBCUs? How should it be handled by administration and students? Thanks for reading this and keep doing what you're doing. I would make. I recommend y' all to everyone I meet. Y' all did exactly what y' all was supposed to do, and the administration and the students and black people across the nation should support how y' all got rid of them. Fuck them people.
Big Ice Cub
How you. How you gonna be. How you gonna be respectable with people.
Deontay Kyle
That are trying to sow division? Fuck them.
Big Ice Cub
Black people have far too long cared.
Deontay Kyle
About what white people think. And they don't give a fuck about your thoughts. They don't give a fuck about your feelings.
Big Ice Cub
They don't give a fuck about your life.
Deontay Kyle
So fuck them.
Big Ice Cub
And also, we need people with real bank.
Deontay Kyle
I can't wait till we get the bankroll for real so we can start donating to some of these HBCUs our damn self.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
And we could raise money through our power of A Dollar organization, where we do. Let's do. We could do a quarter run for each HBCU, $1 from each listener and. And support these HBCUs and keeping them open and. And then we got a little say so in the room.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Big donor.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah. Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Big donor. Got a little say so.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah. Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Rename this whole building. Oh, that's a trash. Oh, I'm about to say. God damn.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Say the plane.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah, this is the Chris Dorner building right here.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Oh, okay.
Big Ice Cub
Okay.
Deontay Kyle
This is the area for defense. For combat and Combat and self defense.
Big Ice Cub
Is going to be the Chris Dorner bill.
Caller Tay
Hey.
Deontay Kyle
I like it. Shout out to Chris Dorner. Rest in peace.
Big Ice Cub
Y' all handled it the way y'.
Deontay Kyle
All was supposed to and y' all should. We should always handle situations like that. All right, let's do this. Let's do this. Mm.
Big Ice Cub
Hi.
Deontay Kyle
Deontay and big cat. I identify as a black woman, although I'm mixed with Puerto Rican, Mexican, and unfortunately white. Well, this is America. I got a little bit of colonizer in us.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Puerto Ricans.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Basically some, you know.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Little Negro, little Spaniard. Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Mexican.
Deontay Kyle
And unfortunately. Why? Oh, very unfortunate. Yeah.
Co-host/Guest
God damn it.
Deontay Kyle
God damn it. A little Scottish in me. I just heard the backpack. My mom is delusional and claims to be black. A black woman, even though she is not. It is my dad's side. Who is black. Well, your mother is out of her mind. Sad, sad, sad, sad, sad, sad story. So this is a Puerto Rican, Mexican and white woman claiming she black. It was a little crazy, yeah. Either way, I always find myself at all with her about her false claim. And because I have lupus, I try to avoid straight as much as possible. Her mother and grandmother is white and Mexican and identifies as Hispanic, but has and shows no connection to her ethnicity. She's always projecting onto me about claiming to be a black woman, saying I take away from her and my great grandmother. I can't show pride in who I am because she always find a way to interject herself and my sense of being. On top of that, she's prejudiced and racist against herself while dating a black man and inserting herself into our culture. Crazy. I say all this to say, should I stay on they ass and correct them every time or let them stay ignorant because they'll only change if they want to? Also, what advice would you give to someone who's biracial and struggling to fully step into their identity? If you have any. I understand I'm a mix of cultures, but I can't help who and where I feel comfortable and who I belong with. Thanks. Sounds tricky, right? Because the thing with your mom is your mom is just completely living in a delusion where she wants to claim blackness. The reason why your mother wants to claim blackness, cause she's anti black. So she tries to use. She trying to use her blackness as a front for her anti blackness. Right. So it's like, I can say this about black people. Cause I'm black too. No, that's not how that works. So you should correct them, but avoid distress in the sense of just, just, just, just continually chip away. They're not gonna change until they want to. And the way that she's, you know, she false claiming the hood. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
She false claiming the sex, she false claiming the set.
Deontay Kyle
Cause like, I don't know, man, we might have to jump your mama in.
Big Ice Cub
You know what I'm saying?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Come in there, check your mama real quick.
Big Ice Cub
She want to be black, we jump.
Deontay Kyle
Her in real quick.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, come in and g check your mama real quick.
Deontay Kyle
She gotta give us that 90.
Big Ice Cub
But as far as you, man, you.
Deontay Kyle
Know who you are, you know where you belong, you're gonna encounter things like that. But to have black, to have black in America is just, man.
Big Ice Cub
Ask yourself.
Deontay Kyle
What you would have been identified as 100 years ago. Yeah, also too. It's just like as Long as you.
Big Ice Cub
Don'T approach the fact that, you know.
Deontay Kyle
You know, it's always the moms, bro. It's always the white or the mixed moms that just man. Sowing those seeds, bro. Yeah, sowing those bad seeds.
Big Ice Cub
I can't give nobody a black card. All I can tell you is to.
Deontay Kyle
Live in your truth and who you are and support your people that support you and understand that the way you are identified in public is the way that you should identify in private. And as long as you are for the liberation of black people and all oppressed people, you gonna be good. In every room you go into, there are gonna be sectors of black people who don't consider you black at all. There's gonna be white people who consider you black every day of the week. So you are in quite the coinky thing. And the most important thing is about who you are and how you identify yourself. If you are aligned with black culture, if you feel more comfortable around black people, you should continue to pursue that. You should continue to occupy those spaces and you should find people in those spaces who are open minded and empathetic. Because the thing about this country is we have always been a racially mixed country, right? Nobody who has any lineage in America is going to be 100% black. Anything. Right? But the culture is. The black American culture is the thing that connects us. The black American culture is the thing that preserves our culture and our connection. And you will have people who are salon, you know, for black, I mean, you know, the people that have the full black grandparents type shit. You know what I'm saying? That shit is gonna be a thing and that shit should be celebrated. Because the pursuit of ethnic cleansing in this country has been nonstop and very pervasive. So we always gonna show love to black people who love black people. But you did not control your birth. So you align yourself where you feel welcome. You continue to check that bullshit. Don't let her false claim the hood. But you know, if the hood claim you, then the hood claim you. You know what I'm saying?
Big Ice Cub
How do you.
Deontay Kyle
If you around black folks and they, you know, they showing you that love and then you got a whole side of your family that's black and that's where you live and identify with sh. You good in the hood? Yeah, you good as long as you keep g checking your mama. You the hood proud. You making the hood proud, G. Check your mom, G. Check your mom, man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Or your mom, man.
Big Ice Cub
Where your mother, man?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Where your mom is.
Deontay Kyle
My mother has a natural alliance to losers. Oh, love this. Great way to end the podcast. Hi, Grizzen eggs. I need y' all advice. My mom has a talent for moving in men who don't bring anything for the talent is crazy. My mom has a talent for moving in men who don't bring anything to the table but an appetite. When I was 10, she dated a good man for almost 10 years, but as soon as he moved out, she had a new dude moving in his toothbrush the same day. Damn. I told her it was disrespectful. She told me she's the queen of her house. She could do whatever the hell she wants. Hey, hard to argue with that.
Big Ice Cub
These dudes will follow the same script.
Deontay Kyle
Paint a door or two, eat her food, drain her injury, leave her broke. One was married and on drugs. Damn. Another didn't pay bills, didn't clean, didn't cook, just sat around running his mouth. Now she's with a man in his 50s with no license who bikes to work because she had to buy him a bike after realizing it was risky letting him drive her car. She's taking him on six cruises and countless dinner, and he contributes pennies and still acts like he's doing her a favor. She just admitted to me and my boyfriend that she's tired of him not stepping up, not planning dates, not even really liking her like that. I love my mom, but I feel like she's the sugar mama, the maid, and the emotional punching bag all rolled in one. How do I support her and set boundaries without blowing up our relationship? Or do I just let her ride this loser roller coaster until she gets off on her own? Thanks, y', all for what y' all do. Stay black, stay positive, stay healthy, stay blessed. Hey, just don't recreate those circumstances for yourself.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Your mom's a trick.
Deontay Kyle
Yeah, she's a big trick.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah, pretty much.
Deontay Kyle
Trick mommy.
Big Ice Cub
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Get her honorary degree.
Deontay Kyle
Where her degree? Yeah, you're an honorary degree.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Trick mama.
Deontay Kyle
Trick mommy. I don't know what these bums gonna do, but I know one thing. That this is the house for them, baby. Cause she's a trick.
Big Ice Cup Cat
All day, every day, baby.
Deontay Kyle
She's a trick.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Wouldn't change for the world.
Deontay Kyle
Cause she's a trick. Oh, n. Now she's a trick.
Big Ice Cub
Your mama is a trick.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Okay. Let her trick. Trick and peace.
Big Ice Cub
Longest.
Deontay Kyle
Look, this is. This is the thing, right?
Big Ice Cub
If the. If the hotel.
Deontay Kyle
If the house above you is flooding is eventually going to become your problem, which means you need to become your mother's upstairs neighbor and not her downstairs Neighbor. So when her.
Big Ice Cub
When her shit on the ground level.
Deontay Kyle
Is flooding, it don't affect you at all. Okay. Don't let her shit spill over into your life. You can set boundaries as far as like, you know what I'm saying? Hey, mom, I don't feel comfortable talking to you about this because you ain't gonna change. I don't feel comfortable talking to you because you allow it to go on and things like that. But it's also like.
Big Ice Cub
You gotta let.
Deontay Kyle
Her make her own decisions.
Big Ice Cub
She's the queen of the house.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah.
Big Ice Cub
Ain't that what she told you?
Big Ice Cup Cat
That's what she said.
Big Ice Cub
She said she was the queen.
Deontay Kyle
Let the queen reign.
Big Ice Cub
This has been episode 91. Grizzly next podcast.
Deontay Kyle
As always, I am Deontay Kyle. But who's behind the camera?
Big Ice Cup Cat
The owner of the Kumbaye coffee shop.
Deontay Kyle
Oh, yeah, baby.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Big ice cupcat. Come down and get you a pumpkin spice Doucet a latte.
Deontay Kyle
Come get some Tito's green tea.
Big Ice Cub
Tito's green tea. God damn.
Deontay Kyle
That's an original right off the b.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, we gonna have drunk.
Deontay Kyle
It's basically a bar.
Big Ice Cub
Yes, a bar.
Deontay Kyle
Just drunk.
Big Ice Cub
Ain't no food, ain't no baked goods in this.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We might get some banana infused infused.
Deontay Kyle
Little THC infused.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yeah, THC infused.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
You get up. Kumbaya coffee shop.
Big Ice Cub
Real Kumbaya in that.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
It's gonna feel unified in that bitch.
Big Ice Cub
You'll be up like you a little.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Split in the motherfucker.
Deontay Kyle
If you want to have your business, man, anything goes. Do a little coke in the bathroom. Hey, start your day off right.
Big Ice Cub
As long as your don't come with a kit.
Deontay Kyle
We good.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah, we good.
Deontay Kyle
All we need is one step.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
If you got to have multiple steps.
Big Ice Cub
Multiple steps. Don't do that shit in here.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Go get it squirted out.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Deontay Kyle
No.
Big Ice Cub
No pipes. Nah. No stems. Nope.
Deontay Kyle
And no belts.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Hell no.
Deontay Kyle
You know what I'm saying? Deontayantaykyle.com for all booking and inquiries. When y' all start seeing us reading ads on here, just know we get money.
Big Ice Cup Cat
We getting money, right?
Deontay Kyle
Support us getting money so we can start our.
Caller with 44 acres
Our.
Deontay Kyle
Our 501 513C.
Co-host/Guest
Yes.
Deontay Kyle
We start our nonprofit. We going to get some of this money away.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
HBCU did little HBCUs little power of a dollar.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Caller with 44 acres
Huh?
Deontay Kyle
How we going to ask you to do Everest? Give a dollar. That's it.
Big Ice Cup Cat
A dollar.
Deontay Kyle
A dollar. Goddamn McDonald's ain't even got a dollar menu no more.
Big Ice Cub
It.
Deontay Kyle
Adviceiontekyle.Com for all your advice. NMM New Music Monday nmmtechyle.com to submit your music to New Music Mondays deontaycow.com for updates. Gritsineggs.com for merch 657234 eggs. That's 657-234-3447. Follow me on IG Deontay Cal Grits and Eggs podcast. Gritson Eggs podcast on igicecup Cat on IG Big K, you got anything before.
Big Ice Cub
We close it out?
Big Ice Cup Cat
Amen. We are now Grist and eggs Radio. Grayson Eggs Radio. We got playlists coming out.
Deontay Kyle
Oh, man.
Big Ice Cup Cat
On the Spotify. Oh, somebody's calling.
Big Ice Cub
Shout out to the saint.
Deontay Kyle
Hello to the saint.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Yes, sir.
Big Ice Cub
Yeah. Yeah. So we'll. If you want to know more about.
Deontay Kyle
What we got going on on New Music Monday, watch New Music Monday. As of right now, every other Monday, but coming up. Every Monday? Yeah, coming up every Monday.
Big Ice Cub
When it's every Monday, we'll let you know.
Deontay Kyle
It's every Monday. We just got a studio so we can change the appeal, change the look, change the aesthetic.
Co-host/Guest
Yep.
Deontay Kyle
And, and, and this going down in the real way, man.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
You know what I'm saying? We the new front master Flex.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Hey, man, drop a bomb on them flicks.
Big Ice Cub
New York City.
Big Ice Cup Cat
N atl. We doing New York City.
Co-host/Guest
Got this.
Big Ice Cub
Atlanta.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Atlanta right now.
Big Ice Cub
Atl.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
If you at the American deli right now, go back there, toss your own lemon pepper hot wings.
Big Ice Cup Cat
The wings are your wings.
Deontay Kyle
Get you a peach drink as of right now, poured in face.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Splashing face right now with the peach. Eliminate.
Deontay Kyle
Man. This has been episode 91.
Co-host/Guest
Yeah.
Deontay Kyle
Since I never know how to say.
Big Ice Cup Cat
Goodbye we never want to end I.
Deontay Kyle
Just let soul take us on, you.
Rapper/Poet
Know what I'm saying?
Co-host/Guest
It's just hip hop.
Deontay Kyle
It's just, you know what I'm saying? It's just my. It's just raps, man. Turn me up, man. It's just raps. I just want to rap.
Poet Wisdom
They say without the proper labor faith.
Deontay Kyle
Don'T stand a chance.
Poet Wisdom
I put my faith in faith and stand on fertile land I planted seeds Adeline indeed Turning the trees before rest in peace tease get printed to me unless impeded matter of fact, that got me thinking back when Mr. Love was tending to his garden Schooling me to annuity before he grabbed his clubs to go golfing and it's no coincidence that do still had the caddy Back when woods were still the best. Don't let me roll off course here. Georgie Pops was dropping, dropping jams while I was lighting cigs. But, you know, I, too, was listening with both ears. You see, that's the best that I can do. Wisdom is the application of knowledge. I was picking up what he was putting down. Just wasn't applying it. I ain't denying it. Nah, maybe I was too busy trying to find the balance between religion and science. Trying to get to the bottom of everything while being the highest. Like a pilot's roots. Am I right, brother? Cause I was simultaneously relaying it through reason and Ramen that I sought for us dissecting systems responsible for our imprisonment. The visionary with astigmatism in scarred Cornegas. If love is mine, then what am I? You can't fight fate.
Big Ice Cub
That's why Sam.
Host: Deante’ Kyle
Co-hosts: Big Ice Cup Cat, Big Ice Cub
Date: October 7, 2025
In Episode 91, Deante’ Kyle and his co-hosts get personal and political, diving deep into Black culture, community gatekeeping, current events, and the importance of high-probability outcomes for young Black men. They openly touch on gatekeeping traditions, address current threats to Black and marginalized communities, and, in their trademark banter, provide advice on building community, engaging youth, and navigating personal cultural identity. The episode is rich with both laughter and hard truths, balancing community critique with practical guidance.
On Trades over Entertainment Dreams
"You got a better chance of being a referee than you do got being in [the] league." – Big Ice Cub ([18:48])
"Stop trying to impress these girls, man ... The girls are impressed by the ones who ain't trying to impress them." – Deante’ Kyle ([38:28])
Gatekeeping Culture
"Y’all give niggas a blueprint to appropriate, and then cry and complain when niggas appropriate... What happened to secrets?” – Deante’ Kyle ([41:04])
"If you know, you know." – Big Ice Cup Cat ([41:42])
On ICE Raids and Solidarity
"In any city where ICE is, there should be a general strike among the working class because we are following rules made by people who break them." – Big Ice Cub ([58:01])
"If the rules ain't good for you, they ain’t good for me neither." – Deante’ Kyle ([58:10])
On Navigating Racial Identity "As long as you are for the liberation of Black people and all oppressed people, you gonna be good in every room you go into." – Deante’ Kyle ([83:34])
On Parental Patterns "If the house above you is flooding, it's eventually going to become your problem...you need to become your mother's upstairs neighbor and not her downstairs neighbor.” – Deante’ Kyle ([86:08])
The tone is humorous, irreverent, raw, and loving—balancing sharp critiques (often filled with playful profanity and hyperbole) with real-world advice and deep care for the Black community. The hosts are unfiltered in both their frustration and optimism, refusing to sugarcoat while always returning to messages of self-determination and collective uplift.