Episode 97 - Bam Sparks

Summary

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Grits and Eggs Podcast

Host: Deante’ Kyle
Episode: 97 - Bam Sparks
Date: November 4, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode features Deante’ Kyle in candid conversation with William “Bam” Sparks—Atlanta native, Grand Hustle affiliate, Trap Music Museum co-founder, and now the founder of Culture Wireless, a Black-owned internet and wireless services company. The discussion ranges from Bam’s Atlanta roots and music industry journey to the origins, obstacles, and vision fueling Culture Wireless—a movement for tech equity, community investment, and digital empowerment in underserved neighborhoods. The two also share thoughts on building Black generational wealth, the power of collective action, digital redlining, and the entrepreneurial grind.

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Key Themes & Discussion Points

1. Bam’s Atlanta Origins & Early Career

• Background (04:38): Bam grew up on Atlanta’s Westside (Zone 1/4). Shoutouts to local landmarks, schools (Frederick Douglass HS), and the significance of Atlanta’s divided neighborhoods.
• Education & Pivot (05:03–05:29):
  • Started at Albany State, then transferred to Georgia Tech, majoring in chemical engineering.
  • “I literally got a call...my cousin Doug hit me up...wanted to start an agency. So he's like, bro, you know sports, you played ball with all these guys growing up. We need some help. And that was it. I left Georgia Tech that day.” — Bam [05:29]
• Sports Agency Era (06:09–06:43): Key connections with athletes, transition from engineering to creative careers, and how his sports/music networks paved the way for later ventures.
• Trap Music Museum (08:38):
  • Originated from a casual ‘aha’ moment—wanting an escape room based on trap themes.
  • “Everybody kind of turned around. It was that aha moment.” — Bam [08:50]

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2. Birth of Culture Wireless—A Tech Movement Rooted in Necessity

• Inspiration (10:23–11:55):
  • Realized digital inequity after seeing his cousin “bootlegging fiber” for high-speed internet in underserved Atlanta neighborhoods.
  • “He had his whole circuit...the most niggering I've ever seen. But it was the fastest Internet in the city...How can we get Vine City, the bluff, English Ave lit up, AUC?” — Bam [10:23]
• Startup Journey & Impact (12:02–12:36):
  • In business since 2021; won contracts for Atlanta’s BeltLine and LA’s Destination Crenshaw (free internet for Crenshaw in Nipsey Hussle’s honor).
• On Digital Redlining (13:24):
  • “It's a digital red line.” — Deante’ [13:25]
  • Discussed systemic disparities in mobile/service quality across zip codes; connection to historic redlining.

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3. Obstacles to Building Black Tech Infrastructure

• Funding Barriers (13:43–15:01):
  • Challenges raising capital—personal investment of $1M, need for federal/state support; cities were supportive but population displacement (gentrification) stunted density and reach.
  • “To build an ISP cost. I mean, we put a million dollars of our own money into the company and needed to raise more.” — Bam [13:50]
• Technical & Market Hurdles (15:01–16:40):
  • High costs of laying fiber. Leveraged wins + partnerships (e.g., T-Mobile, Andreessen Horowitz).
  • Expanding beyond fiber to become an MVNO (wireless phone plans).

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4. Breaking the Mold: Community Investment & Equity Crowdfunding

• Ownership for the Community (17:10–18:35):
  • “I've been really boots on the ground doing most of this on my own...I think eventually people will see what I'm doing. But it's that not understanding how your phone works anyway.” — Bam [18:11]
  • Equity crowdfunding: inspired by successes like Isaac Hayes (Fanbase) and Ryan Reynolds (Mint Mobile), pushing for direct community ownership (WeFunder campaign for Culture Wireless).
  • “If you were able to come in at an early phase seed round and you put in a thousand dollars, that would have got you, I'll probably say, somewhere around a million dollars return.” — Bam [23:05]

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5. Building Generational Wealth & The Power of Reinvesting Locally

• Changing Our Investment Mindset (24:14):
  • “We can support other Black owned businesses...so we own our own infrastructure. That's been what I've been pushing.” — Bam [24:45]
  • Discussion on community priorities, instant gratification (e.g., spending on clubs vs. investing), and long-term wealth.
• Brand Loyalty vs. Selling Out (25:59–27:04):
  • Balancing community expectations for ongoing Black ownership vs. strategic business exits.
  • “The ultimate strategy is always to sell...But we can always maintain some sort of ownership.” — Bam [26:20]

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6. Digital Redlining & The Inequity of ‘Data Rich’ and ‘Data Poor’

• Framing Internet as a Utility (39:15):
  • “You have to have Internet. It's like having water, like having power.” — Bam [39:26]
  • Real consequences of government program cuts—a gap in access to education, jobs, healthcare.
• Innovative Data Sharing (36:06–37:34):
  • Bam’s “aha” moment: “I wish I could share some of my data with them, because I never go over.” T-Mobile called it 'genius'—a disruptive proposal for a peer-to-peer data-sharing model.
  • “Data is all in one big pool....AT&T, Verizon have really been getting over for years because they just resell what you didn’t use.”— Bam [36:44]

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7. Collective Action, Tech Ownership & Black Economic Power

• The Potential of Unified Support (45:42–46:18):
  • “There's 45 million Black people out in the US. If we were all to take a stance today and say we're all switching to Culture, what would happen?...It'll change everything.” — Bam/Deante’ [45:42–46:18]
• The Real Value of Black Creation (50:14):
  • “Oftentimes, like you said, we give away the culture, but we give away creation more than anything. I think the biggest aspect of black culture is creation and invention.” — Deante’ [50:15]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Entrepreneurial Risk:
  “The first investment you made was with your time...I remember you had a sure-fire, you know, I mean, a chemical engineer, that ain't nothing to sneeze at.” — Deante’ [40:49]
• On Digital Divide:
  “We think WI fi is WI fi. It's not.” — Deante’ [30:12]
• On Investing in Community:
  “How can we, instead of putting $2,000 to go to the club and get a new fit...reinvest into the community?...So we own our own infrastructure.” — Bam [24:14]
• On Data Equity:
  “That's why I call it the data rich and the data poor.” — Bam [38:35]
• On Black Economic Power:
  “Culture is our biggest commodity and we give it away every day for free, Period. And I felt like, how do we stop that? We got to build generational wealth.” — Bam [43:35]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Bam’s Atlanta Background: 04:38–06:09
• Trap Music Museum Origins: 08:38–09:24
• Inspiration & Creation of Culture Wireless: 10:23–11:55
• Digital Redlining Discussion: 13:24–15:01
• Obstacles and Growth of Culture Wireless: 13:43–16:40
• Equity Crowdfunding & Community Investment: 18:10–19:40, 23:05–24:45
• Brand Loyalty vs. Exiting Big: 25:59–27:04
• The Data-Sharing Innovation: 36:06–37:34
• Generational Wealth & Economic Power: 39:15–44:23
• Call for Collective Action: 45:42–46:18
• Closing, Contact, Ways to Invest: 52:04–52:11

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How to Support & Connect

• Invest: wefunder.com/culturewireless
• Follow: @culturewireless on Instagram & Facebook

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Summary Tone:
The episode stays raw, playful, and Atlanta-centric—packed with inside jokes, local pride, and blunt real talk about technology, community responsibility, and what it takes to build Black-owned infrastructure in America. Deante’ and Bam riff on the history and future of economic resistance, the importance of tangible ownership, and the untapped collective power in investing in our own.

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Transcript

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Yeah.

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I'm like, oh, I just left Earth and I want to go back. And you ain't going back. Yeah.

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Couple. About six. About six hours.

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I was paranoid as hell.

[B]

Yeah.

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I'm thinking I'm just hitting some weed. I'm like, no, this doing experimental over here. Yeah. When that pulled the torch out, I should have known.

[B]

Yeah. Right then if a pulled a torch.

[A]

And I'm leaving when it turned into chemistry. Yeah. You feel me pulling out the goddamn torch. When I seen that torch, I was like, I ain't gonna like this, bro. All right, let me see.

[B]

Say your first and last night for me, William Sparks.

[A]

All right, get loud for me real quick. Pause.

[B]

Yo, yo, yo.

[A]

Get loud for now. Hold on.

[B]

Can you hear me now?

[A]

Yeah. That's great. All right, bet you ready to go, man? Damn, bro. What episode is gonna be? All right? This is. Don't even say episode. Just say, this is yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be up with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then this. This will probably come out three Saturdays from now, so you probably might end up in the 1- hundreds, 102.

[B]

That's okay.

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Hey, man, what's happening? It's your boy Deontay Cobbler who's behind the camera. Big ice cub cat. We're here with another episode of the Grizz Next podcast. I don't know what episode this is. We just out here thugging, man. You know what I'm saying? Deontayantaycol.com for all booking and inquiries. So when you ask me, like, how do I advertise on the podcast? Deontayeontaykyle.com for all booking and inquiries. Adviceiontekyle.com for all your advice submissions. New Music Monday, nmmtechyle.com for all your music submissions. And go. Grits and eggs. Grits and eggs dot com. G-R-I T S N E G G S dot com for all the merch. And if you have any issues with your Merch, [e-mail] you can reach directly out to Suki and she'll make sure you get sorted. What else we got? What else we got? What else we got? It's something else. It's something I'm thinking of. I'm your host, Deontay Cobble. Who's behind the camera. No, there's something else we gotta plug. Oh. 657234 x 657-234-3447. I always feel weird about doing the thing in here because it's like this ain't our regular. This ain't all right. You know what I mean? I ain't got the music. The. I ain't got that. That usually set the tone for a Ferg. What's up, Ferg? Angel. Oh, to go, Master P. All right. We have very special guests in here today. An Atlanta native, co founder of the Trap Museum, Trap Music Museum and new found and now founder. Hold on, run that back. We gotta edit that out. No, we can't do them like that. Yeah. Stuttering and scrambling. Scrambling. Y' all wanna reslate it? You wanna reslate it? All right, we got a very special guest in here today. An Atlanta native, co founder of the Trap Music Museum and now founder of Culture Radio Wireless, a new black owned Internet company that's creating real buzz around the community powered tech. So, William Bam Sparks. Welcome to the show, brother.

[B]

Yes, sir. Appreciate it.

[A]

How you doing, man?

[B]

Doing good, doing good.

[A]

Hey, man, so tell before we get into Culture Wireless and how you land there, let's get a little bit. Let's go back to the beginning. What's your background? Where you from? I know you Atlanta native, but like shout out your side, your zone, whatever the case may be.

[B]

West side, man. Grady, baby, went to Frederick Douglass High School. Grew up right over by Jackson Memorial Church. So what, that zone one? Yeah. Well, I grew up on the line of zone one and zone four. So if you coming out Fatima Road, right when you hit Collier, you know that's where it splits.

[A]

Oh yeah. Word. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I know Collier very well.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

My sister tried to get an apartment over there. I was like, we're not moving over here. Like, why are we moving here?

[B]

Yeah, man, that's where I grew up. So. Yeah, with elementary school over there, Bazzolini, Usher with the Doug left there, went to Georgia Tech. I started off at Albany State first though. I did a dual degree program. So I was a chemical engineering major. And then I switched and went to Georgia Tech.

[A]

Okay, what'd you do at Georgia Tech? Same thing?

[B]

Yeah, same thing. And Then I, you know, found my calling, Got up out of there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So when you say you found your calling, what do you mean by that?

[B]

I literally got a call. So my cousin Doug hit me up. He was. He's best friends with Tip, and they wanted to start an agency. So he's like, bro, you know sports. You played ball with all these guys growing up. We need some help. And that was it. I left Georgia Tech that day.

[A]

Yeah. So what was your early career like? When you say, like it was a sports agency.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So tell me about. Yeah, grand hustle sport. Okay. All right.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So what was that, like, experience, like, going from being a chemical engineer to, like, more of a passionate role? Like something you actually. I ain't gonna say you didn't care about chemical engineering, but, like, this is more of a creative passion.

[B]

It was different, bro. Everything about it. I mean, I had people I can lean on. That homeboys that was already. Agents that was moving in the space that had clients. So I leaned on them, leaned on my homeboys that went to the league. Like Calvin Johnson. He was at Tech when I was there. It's a sharp choice. Morgan Burnett. Derrick Morgan. Rp, baby. You know?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So. And then that lead you. So you just around the whole grand hustle journey from nearly. From the beginning. Yeah.

[B]

Like 06 until 2018. 2019.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah. You was in thick of it. Yeah, I was 16.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For sure. I'm listening to King going crazy. Yeah, we was. When that top back dropped. Yeah, it's crazy. We had the whole. That had our school on fire because even the folks from New Orleans was, like, really fucking with that because they used the man's first beat.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we, like, Damn near split 50, 50 between Georgia folks and Louisiana folks. So that, like, it was like, that was the glue. Cause we was beefing. Year prior. Year prior, top bat might have been a peace treaty. Niggas was fighting every day, like, yeah, that. That whole situation was crazy. Did you ever venture back into chemical engineering at all? Have you found? No, it was crazy.

[B]

I actually met with Georgia Tech last month. They want to have me a part of the advisory board for alumni because they're doing a whole creative engineering space. So it's not gonna be competition with scad. It's more. So how can you bring tech into the creative space? It's right there on Marietta street by Mean Street Studios.

[A]

Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I don't know what it is about this. The synergy. We just. We just started well, tomorrow it should be our first day recording at Mean streets. We'll be doing new music Monday at Mean streets. Oh, that's dope. Yeah, so that's dope.

[B]

Yeah, man, Drama the homie. I've been knowing drama 20 years.

[A]

Yeah. I met Don Cannon and I was like that n tall as hell.

[B]

Yeah.

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I ain't even realize how tall bro was.

[B]

Yeah, it's the homie.

[A]

Cause you only hear him, you only hear the cannon. Yeah, you don't realize, nigga, like six, eight. You act like God damn. So I want to talk about culture wireless. I know that you co founded the trap music museum. That's just a continuation of your work with grand hustle, right?

[B]

Yeah, that was a continuation. I was creative director for Tip's dime trap. So I was A and R and putting everything together. Me and Doug and the team and I had a concept called escape the trap that we came up with. Me, Tip, Doug, all of us went out with our old ladies to an escape room downtown. And I remember KT was like, man, don't I know this shit? This medieval time stuff. I was like, man, we need a trap themed skate room. And everybody kind of turned around. It was that aha moment. And from there I put it in the deck. And that's when Gucci said that he was. He started trap music. So we was all sitting around like, damn, we need something that can kind of show the history of how trap music started. And boom. Yeah, that's how it all. Yeah, that's how it keeps.

[A]

It's actually brilliant. Yeah, I think a lot of them aha moments just come out of like, real life experiences too. Just reflect. It's. It's out of most times. It's out of, like, necessity.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

You know what I mean? And I think with that, I didn't. I didn't get an opportunity. I didn't go to the trap music museum or to the pretty girls, like, trap music trap house either, because I was in Alabama at the time. And I was at Alabama feeling like I was missing out on everything, bro. But I was on the road, so it was like, whatever you gotta pull up, you know.

[B]

We just celebrated our 70th anniversary October 4th.

[A]

Man.

[B]

So we still kicking, bro.

[A]

Say less. We in now.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

We ain't gotta say nothing after this. We gonna put it together.

[B]

Yeah, let's do it.

[A]

Cause we definitely need to pull up. Y' all be shooting episodes in there? Yes.

[B]

Bank used to shoot out of there.

[A]

There you go. All right, well, guess what? Grizzly nay's podcast coming live from trap music museum for sure. Coming soon. So culture wireless. How do you arrive at creating your own wireless network?

[B]

I was leaving the museum, my cousin Eno said he had to do that. What is that, Morris Brown? He was doing the esports facility at the time. I had an esports facility on the belt line. So I just wanted to go check it out, see what he was doing. And I pull up and bro was bootlegging fiber, bro. He had his whole circuit. He put his own two by fours up in the back of the old abandoned gym, Bro. It was the most niggering I've ever seen in my life. So I'm just like, bro, what are you doing? He's like, bro, this is the fastest Internet in the city. And he won line. I called my business partner who did the fiber optics at the at the airport. So he pulled up, he did the test and he was like, nah, bro, that's it. So basically Google started a project at the AUC and left it. Never, never spun it up. So a company called. Damn, I can't think. Crown Castle. Crown castle took the fiber and ran it back towards the city. They lease it to Georgia Tech, Mercedes Benz, but it doesn't go back to the west side. So at that, at that point I'm like, damn, how can we get Vine City, the bluff, English Ave lit up, auc. And that day I just decided to start my own Internet company.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like you said, it came from a necessity because, you know, coming out of COVID our kids was at the library. They had to go to Starbucks and just sit outside and do their homework. My nephew was one of them. He went to Carver and he had to go sit outside and do his homework. And I'm like, no, we need to fix this. And that's how it started, man.

[A]

That's amazing, bro. Have you. So are you in a startup phase? Is it actual like working network?

[B]

It's in business.

[A]

Yeah, it's in business.

[B]

We've been going for over four years. We started in 2021. This is right after Covid.

[A]

Perfect.

[B]

So what happened? We ended up looking up and getting a couple contracts. So we won the RFP for the belt line. So we did official ISP for the belt line and then we won an RFP for Crenshaw Destination Crenshaw. So it's crazy. On Thursday we're doing a ribbon cutting. So Nipsey, before he passed away, had this concept of making Crenshaw destination. So we're actually providing free Internet for Crenshaw.

[A]

That's hard. Yeah, yeah. So the. From idea to like, concept to actual business, did you experience a lot of obstacles? Like, did you experience any obstacles from the city? Did you experience Oscars, like, with just people not believing in it? Because there, there is a big corporate giant in those spaces. We was having a discussion, and it's actually a video going viral on Tick Tock right now where this young lady had pointed out the fact that when you in the hood, your AT&T, your T mobile, your Verizon, it don't work as well. But your boost mobile, your Cricket, your metro is booming over there, whereas when you go to more suburban area, it's reversed. And I know it got something to do with cell phone towers, but it's also like a way of redlining Internet and phone connections.

[B]

It's a digital red line.

[A]

Yeah, it's a digital red line. And with you having access to bringing some of the high, the, the highest, fast, high speed Internet to these more impoverished areas, I'm sure that that come with a lot of red tape and a lot of pushback. So let's talk about some of the obstacles you experienced.

[B]

I mean, the biggest obstacle has always been money. So we kind of jumped into it thinking, all right, we have emotion. I got my contacts from the music industry and sports shouldn't be that difficult. But to build a ISP cost. I mean, we put a million dollars of our own money into the company and needed to raise more. And I mean, the city was rocking with us. Like Dre, he came out to our initial, like, ceremony, ribbon cutting. The belt line was rocking with us. The city, they embraced us. But what we didn't realize is once we ran that fiber to Vine City, that the density wasn't there anymore. Like, a lot of those people don't live in those neighborhoods. A lot of them got moved out to Claycold and DeKalb, so we couldn't really test it out the way we wanted it to. And then we had to wait on the feds to roll out different funding, like the BEAD funding or the Affordable Connectivity Program, which they shut down last year. So that's probably been the biggest obstacle. Waiting on either the government or some other subsidies to help us build it. Because it's expensive to go from the museum to Morris Brown. Would have cost us like 200, 300,000 to run one line of fiber. No, it's expensive.

[A]

And how many lines of fiber does it take to have that high speed connectivity? Is it just the one line? Just one.

[B]

So basically, you connect to a Data center, and you run a circuit to wherever the location is, and then you just break it off. So for every spot on the belt line, it would cost us maybe anywhere between 2,500 doll to 25, 000 to break off that fiber into different places.

[A]

So if I'm at, you know, Cam Kurt studio on the belt line, that's you. Yeah, that's you I'm connecting to. I mean, that ac, that WI fi be booming over there, you know? Yeah, you know, but there's also an entire apartment complex sitting on that belt line too. And y' all provide the wireless, bro, that's so. So is it. It's not like I get an account with Culture Wireless is I get an account with. No, you get an account, direct account directly with us. So can you plug about how people can, like, find and start an account with you guys?

[B]

Just go to our website, Culture wireless dot com. But here's the thing, though. We're not. We'll be nationwide. We're running out our MVNO program. So we'll be a mobile virtual network operator. So thank you. Metro PCs, Mint Mobile. So in the midst of me raising, we got a hundred thousand from Andreessen Horowitz. They're like the largest VC firm in the country. And I ended up meeting the VP of T Mobile while we were there, and my boy Jonathan plugged us, we had a couple meetings, and that's when we decided to shift not just doing fiber to home and doing straight Internet access, but how can we do our phone service?

[A]

Yeah, correct.

[B]

Yeah. And so it's wireless.

[A]

So, yeah, Culture Wireless is not only going to be providing WI fi, but it'll be phone service as well too.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[A]

Man, I'm. I'm trying to think about what type of Internet Google had. They just left. They just had left off. First of all, the whole project. First of all, the thing about that I love about black folks is like, let me see what this hitting on. Because they reverse engineered them folks. Shit. And he like, bro, I got the WI fi for the load. It's like breaking a fire stick.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For WI fi, that's super hard. That's the ingenuity that we speak about often. A big thing is I want to know more than anything is like, as tapped in as I am to culture and just always keeping my ear to, like, whatever is the most trending thing or whatever the most popping thing is. Maybe, maybe especially when it comes to like music, film, and other pop culture things. Like, why don't more people know about this in the aspect of. Is it just a marketing thing? Do you think it's a fear of investing in something new?

[B]

That part too? I mean, the marketing is about to pick up. I mean, we launched our WeFronta campaign. We've raised about 120,000 so far. I got another three or four hundred thousand committed. Once I really blow this up, we're thinking about doing Art Basel, big launch parties, the whole nine.

[A]

You know how it goes.

[B]

But what I've seen is a lot of people assume because of what I've done in the past that I don't need that support or how can I come in and invest or how can we spread the word? So I've been really boots on the ground doing most of this on my own, you know? You know what I mean? I think eventually people will see what I'm doing. But it's that not understanding how your phone works anyway.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Most people either, especially our demographic. You've been with AT&T for 20 years. T Mobile since high school. A lot of people haven't switched. But now there's no brand loyalty anymore. You know, Ryan Reynolds did a big thing for us. He sold last year for 1.35 billion. So the moment that happened, it kind of created the George Clooney effect. So you remember when George Clooney sold Casamigos, then you got Kevin Hart the Rock, Everybody named Mama put out a tequila.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So now you're about to see that same shift into phone service. Just pay attention to see how many people are now launching Jason Bateman, Trump what's his name, just launched two weeks ago. Cuban. Mark Cuban. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like everybody wants to get into that lane because now it's more so about. Let me just attach myself to said celebrity. But we wanted to take more of a community approach and build within to now we can share this with Vine City or a rural area. Let me go back down to Albany, Georgia and help people at Albany State.

[A]

I think that that is an extremely effective way to move about it. And it might not have the glitz and glamour and it might not be the flash in the pan type mentality, but it's very standing because a thing that's going on in this country right now is a lot of defunding to rural medical spaces. And a part of that is them not having access to like fast moving Internet and just not being updated on things. Right. So I think there's an application there as well just to these more rural spaces or just like cities. That's considered country to us in Here in Atlanta, Albany, Augusta, places like. Like that. But I think that that's incredible. I know for sure, like, we all about this. Yeah, we about investing in our own, and especially when it comes to something like that, because that type of infrastructure is needed for us. Like, we talk a lot about doing for ourselves, and we don't think about WI fi. You know, we don't think about mobile service. You know, we've been focused a lot more on the agricultural side. But that's also an aspect that can be provided with wireless. Yeah. And I mean, like, you know, cell phone service get a little shaky in certain places you go. But if, you know, you got a dependable source for your cell phone, then we in business, we talking about a whole different thing here. So whatever you need from us, like, whether that's an event to bring notoriety to it, a part of that marketing campaign, you know, just you being here, shit, we willing to get down with you. We'll lend our. We'll lend our platform to it anytime.

[B]

I appreciate it. Let's do some event, man. Because I think that's. That's it. It's the visibility, you know what I'm saying? Being tapped into the city. We know, we love the party, but I want to party with a purpose. We were just talking about 404 day, like, even this coming year coming up, I want to do a big culture, wireless party, a partnership. Do something big and bring the community out and have everybody sign up. You know, the more people that we can touch that get on the network, the better.

[A]

What does testing look like for this, though? Like, it. You know, I think the. The biggest thing. So when I first moved out, there was a WI fi company that was specific to my neighborhood.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Like, I think they just had one tower over there, and it was a lot cheaper than going, like, Comcast, what. Whatever the case may be. So I was like, yeah, I signed up with that because, like, that's me too. Anytime. It's like, I give it a shot, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's my whole thing. And. And it's like that first week that jump was jumping, and then after the week, it was like it's constantly disconnecting. And it's just like I had to go ahead and get with one of the bigger corporations. But I think that a big act of, like, resistance and protest for black communities is finding alternatives to these big corporations. I think in times like this, we see that a lot more just with the political climate and who's investing money in the things that's harming people. And people want to divest and then reinvest in things that are more aligned with their morals and their values. So let's speak to that about, like, the importance of investing in our own. You know what I mean? And, but also from, from the side, from your side of it is providing a quality product for people and getting them involved in that. Like, how do those two things play into each other?

[B]

Well, I mean, we've been raising capital for about a year, year and a half, and I saw a lot of success coming from Shout out to Isaac Hayes. He's doing a great job with fan base. He's raised like $22 million. I invested maybe three years ago. So that whole equity crowdfunding kind of opened up my eyes. Like, let me talk to my people. Let me go back to my old neighborhoods. Let me go on my social media and drive traffic and tell people they can have ownership. Like I was saying earlier, Ryan Reynolds sold for 1.35 billion. So if you were able to come in at an early phase seed round and you put in a thousand dollars, that would have got you, I'll probably say, somewhere around a million dollars return. Sheesh. Yeah, sheesh. Exactly.

[A]

Sheesh. So imagine they can spend a thousand dollars on anything.

[B]

On anything. They just spend it. Spell house. My homeboy's buying bottles, Doing this, doing that.

[A]

Weekend alone. Yeah. Homecoming weekend. You dropping a band. Just on alcohol.

[B]

Easy.

[A]

Yeah. And parking.

[B]

So.

[A]

So, yeah.

[B]

How can we change that narrative, though? Like you said, I, I. My homeboy, Malik, I know he just spent a couple grand. I mean, I appreciate him investing what he did, but it's like, how can we, instead of putting 2,000 to go to the club and get a new fit and do this, that and the third, how can we reinvest into the community? And it doesn't have to necessarily be my company. We can support other black owned businesses that are on a spill. Other people have raised, like, how do we support one another? So we own our own infrastructure. That's been what I've been pushing.

[A]

Yeah. I think that that's an amazing mindset that we should take on. Because one of the biggest things we look at, we don't look at blowing money as an investment. Right. Because we are investing. We're investing at a good time. But there ain't no return on it. Right. So I think the instant gratification aspect of it is like, if I buy this bottle, I'm gonna be drunk in an hour. If I wear this fit, I'm gonna Get some compliments. I might get a girl number. I might go home with something tonight. Yeah. You know, and at the very least, I'm a field day. Good. And I think a lot of our investment is not only material, but it's just more so emotional. It's about instant gratification. Yeah. Whereas somebody could invest in your company and the short term, and in the long term, great payoff. You know what I'm saying? Where do you stand with. Of course, I think I'm a big proponent of this. Like, if you have a product, if somebody offering you a billion dollars for your product, sell the product. But how do you, how do you keep that brand loyalty with people that want to invest in it just because it's black owned? How do you keep ownership of something?

[B]

Gotcha.

[A]

You see what I'm saying? Where it's like, they'll feel that's our community. Right. It's like you sell for, let's say you, you run it up and you sell it for two, $3 billion. And they're gonna be like, well, but it ain't owned by black people no more. And it's like. But I mean, if you invested in the company early, you could be a part of that pie. I think that's a part of it too. Yeah.

[B]

I think when you're raising money, the ultimate strategy is always to sell, I think.

[A]

Yeah. Because it's opp.

[B]

Yeah. And that's how you get to return your investment. But the way we look at it is we can always maintain some sort of ownership in the company, kind of similar to what prize picks. Just think, did they sold off 63% of the company?

[A]

Understood it.

[B]

But there are people that still own shares and it's ways to move around and to be smart.

[A]

It's not 100% sell off. No, no, no.

[B]

I wouldn't completely walk away. That's why we created two different verticals. So there's the ISP side, which is fiber to home, last mile, more infrastructure. And then the other side is cell service, fixed wireless, stuff like that. I mean, there's a way to split it up.

[A]

Yeah. That make a lot of sense.

[B]

Like Mint Mobile, when he sold. Yeah, he sold his percentage. He walked away with 2,300 million. But there's a way he could have kept the percentage in the company as well.

[A]

So it's Ryan Reynolds. Mint Mobile.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

He went, he.

[A]

I ain't gonna hold you, man. If I. If I get in, if I get in, y'. All. If I. I'm gonna let y' all know something about me right now. If I invest in somebody in a company and five years later they return and I get 300 million. It ain't no more podcast. I'm doing a podcast from a yacht. Welcome to Chris dance podcast. We out here on the Pacific. We out here eating rare eel. You know what I mean? I just clubbed a seal. This going crazy out here. We in. We in blubber nuggets.

[B]

Blubber nuggets.

[A]

It should get real expensive.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's a ten thousand dollar episode. Nah, I'm playing but nah, I ain't though as far as like though as far as the walking away from every. Because it's like I'm type person. Like how much money you need? 300 million. That's not. That's not enough. I think it's enough.

[B]

I'm not walking away. I'm just putting more into other people.

[A]

I feel like buy a clone, it'd be deontay the clone. It'd be. I gotta. It'll be deontay. It'll be a nigga that look like me.

[B]

Nah, I gotta put other people on, bro. We gotta continue to make impact.

[A]

Like I respect background philanthropy, bruh. I be big philanthropist like Jeff Bezos wife.

[B]

Yeah. Or somebody like Shaq like you. Shaq could retire tomorrow if you wanted to.

[A]

Yeah. I think I'm saying that in jest because I don't because I'm rarely. I'm fairly new to all this. I think after a while like that investment is like it's a gamble. But I think it become an obsession for people. But also too it's like I invested 25 000, I made 25 million. I'm gonna throw me a couple more 25000 out there and see what hit it. Makes sense. Yeah, it makes sense.

[B]

You turn into an angel investor. I know people that do. That's what they do.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

They hit their first leg and now it's okay. Cool. And I'm only investing in these type of companies. Companies. That's how TXO invested in me. They only invested in black tech startups.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. And they put out a million dollars a year. They select nine to ten companies that they invest in. Mine one of them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I mean it's all it takes is one.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. Well, I think that this is an extremely sustainable thing. And I think also the digital redlining creates underserved communities. Especially when it comes to WI fi. Especially when it comes to affordable mobile services. Like you said, fixed wireless things like that where it's just like, man, my wireless company ain't hitting on shit, but ain't nobody else come over here. So a lot of people get stuck with what they got, you know what I mean? Because I done stayed in some shaky spots before and I was like, damn, man, the WI fi like really don't hit over here. And now I go to somebody else out, and the WI fi boom. And I'm like, fuck, they got going on.

[B]

But I.

[A]

Cause we think WI fi is WI fi.

[B]

It's not.

[A]

And it's not. You know what I mean?

[B]

I was just telling him. Shout out to Tory Aie. We actually provided that Internet service. They were in that. In that building and whatever they happened, they were Comcast or something. It wasn't working. Me and Corey, I mean, me and Tori sat down, I did a whole analytics surveillance, see how everything was working, found the right spots and we provided a service for them.

[A]

Man, that's amazing. Yeah, bro, that's amazing.

[B]

Shout out to Aie, man.

[A]

What are some of the other companies? You know, you. You plug them or not? Not your competition, but some other black owned, like startup tech companies that you would say people should be on the lookout for or just like be prepared to invest in. And then also if. If people wanted to, like, are you still in the money raising phase right now? How could people like get in? How can. How can I get in? How can I invest me a little rack?

[B]

We funded.com culture wireless. Go ahead. Yeah, we funneled.com culture wireless funnel.

[A]

We funnel.

[B]

We Thunder.

[A]

Thunder. We funder.

[B]

That's the west side. My bad.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. We funder.com forward slash. Yep.

[B]

Culture Wireless.

[A]

Culture.

[B]

Get in there, man. Get in there. Especially, you know, I got some big announcements coming. I've been sourcing a lot of WI fi.

[A]

This ain't here. We got to get you right? We need that Culture Wireless over here.

[B]

Yeah, come on, let's go.

[A]

Oh yeah, we in here, man. I'm on that, bro. My little rack, you know what I mean? I appreciate it when you see the Grizznet studio building just pop up on your corner.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we. And we all our WI fi come through. Culture Wireless. You hear me? Yeah. I've been in talks with this other company, Panther.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Have you heard of them? So they have created a black owned social media company. I'm actually gonna have a founder come on here, but with the. I think the great aspect for them is they do. So they're very serious about it. Being black owned. Okay. And they very serious about it servicing black people. So there's a verification that you have to do before you get in. It's like a face verification, but it's not like an ID or anything. It's like they. They had you sing a song. Like, I think the joint that we saw was Before I Let yout Go. Oh, wow. You know what I'm saying? So that's super duper black. They don't even tell you how the song go. You just gotta know, you know what I'm saying? If you know, you know, type vibe. Yeah. So. But the other thing that they do that I think is really great is that they have a money tab where people can invest into the app or invest towards a goal. So let's say the goal is, you know, we want to open up a grocery store in this neighborhood specifically because they're underserved or they food desert or a lot of food insecurity in this area. They have. And you can keep tabs with every person that's invested. You can keep. It's like a pot that they created. That's dope. And I think, you know, I would. I would like to create some connection between y' all too, because y' all are in the tech space together but doing totally different things. But maybe there's some overlap there where y' all can lend to each other.

[B]

Yeah, I love to talk to them.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I make that connection after the show. Yeah, we get that culture wireless up here. Encyclopedia would be. Would be decent, brother. Oh, yeah, we started that off. Yeah.

[B]

I think we should do that though, man. Put together companies that should be, you know, black owned business.

[A]

They should be partnered together, right? Yeah.

[B]

Kind of create a round table. I was telling Isaac that the other day, like, how can we find all the black owned tech companies, just companies in general, that's raising or looking to scale? I think that'd be dope.

[A]

I think even more, you know. You know, the unfortunate part is there is going to be competition, but I think there has to be some form of collaboration about. Okay, you have great ideas on your platform. I have things that work and don't work on my platform. How do we collaborate and create a better app than everybody else? Instead of us being in competition now, we. We go all. We take all the resources we have and we put them together. And now we got twice the marketing, we got twice the brand recognition. We got rid of all the bugs. Isaac fan base had so many bugs in it. That's why I got off of yeah, but I was down for the cause. I still got my fan base account. I still tap in every now and then. Yeah, but I think that that's another thing that people don't talk about in the tech space, that there. There's so much that goes into maintaining and keeping it running. Right. Like, this is a part of what the data centers are. It's not all AI, so it's not all bad, but they're still necessary to store data, and the data goes directly into marketing, and it also goes into, like, improving on things. Right. And you know, when you are seeing certain situations happen where people are having startups, especially in the tech space, the user experience is key. And if the users have a bad experience early on, they're not understanding of, like, how. How long it took Facebook to come become Facebook, Instagram to Instagram, Twitter to become Twitter. And they don't. They already have a premium product in their hand, so they don't want to take the time to, like, invest and go on the journey with another company.

[B]

Yeah, that's. That's. You know how black culture is. The moment we go in here to a restaurant, we're gonna complain about it if. If my phone service didn't work. Oh, it's a wrap.

[A]

Yeah, it's over with.

[B]

It's over with.

[A]

Yeah, it's one and done type. Yeah. How. How can Cultural. How is Cultural Wireless flipping the script on telecom through affordability equity and its unique data sharing initiative? So what's the data sharing initiative?

[B]

So what happened? The Affordable Connectivity program was getting cut last year. A lot of scamming was going on, essentially. So 45 million people lost their access to Internet. So I'm looking at my phone. My business partner Jerome was dropping off a hotspot in the hood, and before he can get out the neighborhood, they had went through all the bandwidth I'm talking about in a matter of five, 10 minutes. Because she had eight kids in the house, one playing PlayStation, one watching Netflix, other one doing, you know, it just wasn't enough. And I said, damn, I wish I could share some of my data with them, because I never go over.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And everybody kind of looked at me like, what? It was another one of those aha moments. And people don't understand. Data is all in one big pool. So T mobile, AT&T and Verizon have really been getting over for years because they just resell what you didn't use already. So because you didn't use your 10 gigs, you only use 4 or 5. The other 4 or 5 goes back in the pool, cat, he goes over, they charge him $10 for every gig he goes over. But they just taking the ones you didn't use and they just made extra 50 bucks.

[A]

None of them folks flipping bricks. Yeah, they got the dummy brick for you.

[B]

And it's crazy because you just can't use it all. So I'm like, well, damn, what if I had the option to share data, to give it up and then I get a reward? I'm telling you this. And I pitched it to T Mobile. They're like, bro, that's genius. Nobody's ever even thought about that.

[A]

Yeah, they ain't thought about that. Cause they getting over shit also too. It's like with Netflix, like sharing passwords. It's like they want everybody to have their own individual. But they don't understand a big reason why people fuck with Netflix is because they can share the password. So if I can't afford. Because I don't think that people that are in that world, in a tech world, in that $300,000 a year is the standard world, they don't understand that some people really can't afford $10 a month. You know what I mean? So it's like, I think that, that, yeah, that's for one. There needs to be more focus and emphasis like on the people that have low affordability. There's always a focus on the middle class who have a little bit more spending money a little bit more. Like, I would say like discretionary funds. Just like that, you know, I can get, I can get Paramount plus for a month. I see if I'm fucking with it. And if not, some people can't. Like, I ain't giving $10 a month for nothing.

[B]

That's why I call it the data rich and the data poor.

[A]

Data reason data. I don't.

[B]

Bro, I have. I don't even know how much my phone bill is. I got my sister on there, my mama. Everybody's paying everybody bill. It might be 3, 400amonth. You can't go to the bluff and say that like those people, they getting prepaids. They, they were using that ACP program like they needed it. We had people signed up. We had six nodes that span from Cameron Alexander down north side, back up MLK. It was like a three mile radius that people were actually paying that $5 a month so they can have access to the Internet. So when the government cut it off, what are they doing?

[A]

Right?

[B]

They back to like, dang, we don't know Obama phones. And we trying to figure it out, we back riding to the Starbucks like you can't in these days. And they, you have to have Internet. It's like having water, like having power.

[A]

Like, yeah, yeah, it's real. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You cut off from the world if you ain't got no Internet. Like, I think that's really why people rock with the iPhone so much. Because you, if, even if you ain't paid your bill, you can still just hook up to the WI fi and get with it. And I, I think that that's another aspect that people. I don't know if you could do that on other phones or not. I just know that that's what do with their iPhone. Oh yeah, for sure, bro. Let me get your WI fi real quick. They, they back in the game. They I messaging you all day. So there ain't no real. There's really never really been much provision for poorer people to have the same experience as other people. And that data rich, data poor. That coin that put that on, you know what I mean? Trademark that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Stamp that. It's actually a aspect of it I never really thought about. I struggled to like thinking about where I come from in a situation where, when I ain't had no money, my scope of the world is like this because it's really a day to day thing. As you expand out, you can kind of go week to week, then you get month to month. The investment aspect of it is year to year.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

How long have you been kind of playing that game?

[B]

Years now, bro. Be honest.

[A]

Because the first investment you made was with your time. Right. When you, when you started a sports agency, you don't know if that's gonna be expensive.

[B]

Yeah, it was a risk.

[A]

Gonna be a thing or not?

[B]

It was a risk.

[A]

I remember you had a sure fire, you know, I mean, a chemical engineer, that ain't nothing to sneeze at.

[B]

I remember the conversation. I was on 14th street at the. Not the Burger King, the Crystals in the lot. I couldn't pay the 750amonth for the parking decal. I, I was parking in Techwood every day. And when Doug called me, he said, how much would you make when you leave Georgia Tech? I said, about 150, something like that. He said, would you want to make a million dollars a year? And at that time, that's when.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What do you mean yes? I mean, would I. Yeah. Would you like $850,000 more than that? Of course I would.

[B]

And he had to explain to me how the business worked, how you make percentages off of contracts and all the relationships. And I know at the time, I think it was Pac Man Adam. Pac Man Jones had just called and I think that's what started the conversation. And then he was like, just call all your boys up. So I hit up my boy J.D. james Davis, he went to Doug with me. At the time, Greg Smith was at tech. He hooked me up with a bunch of guys. So it was just knowing that I'm have to invest a lot of time and learn this business because I've been math science my whole life to switch to entertainment. Just that learning curve was crazy.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. But then also too, you gotta think about this. You new to something, but you're going straight to the big leagues with people that have been doing it 20, 30 years, who daddy was doing it 20, 30 years. And so they got all the connections, they got all know how. But I think the thing that gets discredited a lot of times is how the players feel, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And a lot of times these folks, especially these folks that come from lower income neighborhoods, they ain't really did know a whole bunch of dealing with white folks. So if they go on based on other people's experiences, especially entertainment, sports and music, shit, these folk be stealing. It's like, I'd rather niggas steal from me. You know what I'm saying? That's just real. You know what I mean? That's just real. Cause I can't, because I think you know what I'm saying, we speak the same language, so it's like, you gonna be more understanding of me and that build trust right there. And that lead me into my question about why do you think now is the time for black people to not only consume our products, consume, but invest in our culture as well? Cause this is an investment not in culture, wireless, but like actually our culture. This is an infrastructure building thing. Yeah.

[B]

Because culture is our biggest commodity and we give it away every day for free, Period. And I felt like, how do we stop that? We got to build generational wealth. We got to tap in and build real community. I heard you say that the other day. Like, we don't understand what real community is. I sat down with Ambassador Young about a year ago, he the og, and I was like, how did y' all do it? Like, how did you sit down with Dr. King King? And he was like, bro, we just was just like, y', all, we riding around, we go to Pascals, we sit down and they just break bread and they figure it out. Kind of similar to what they're doing at the gathering spot with Ryan. You know, I like what he's doing. I feel like if more of us were to go like minded individuals and see how we can really truly build community and invest in one another. That's how you build.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I come from a lot of my early critiques was about capitalism and I think more than anything is that unfettered capitalism. It's the monopolizing. We had a situation, I woke up this morning, the AWS went down and it affected so many different businesses. It affected hospitals and AWS is Amazon wireless service for people that don't know. And these are things that's happening in the background that we don't know about, which kind of leave like a bad taste in our mouth about these big like mega corporations who have monopolized not only like our data and our shopping experience, but now even down to like wireless and wi fi. And it gets to a point where it's like so unfettered that there's no reinvestment in the community. Is. Do you think that that's something because you can get ahead of the anti capitalist, the socialist, the communists by simply doing a reinvestment to the people that use it and you are providing a space for like underserved communities and things like that. But in the long term in your organization, how do you reinvest into the people that invest into you now?

[B]

I mean, continue to build infrastructure in those communities, but also like you said, teach them how to grow generational wealth. I think Isaac said something the other day. There's 45 million black people out in the US if we were all to take a stance today and say we're all switching to culture, what would happen?

[A]

Oh man.

[B]

Yeah. If we all said today we switching a fan base, what would happen? If every. Just the top 300 athletes on ESPN say we all going to HBCUs now next year, what will happen to.

[A]

It'll change everything. It'll literally put the ball in our court because they have these, they have these corporations and they have these industries built up off of our labor.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Fashion industry constantly stealing from black culture. Music industry ran by black culture and that. And the same thing is to say about tech and wireless where we blow a lot of these apps up. Like black Twitter is a thing. But we don't own Twitter. We don't got no stake in Twitter. Instagram from the beginning. I mean if you're a beautiful woman, shit you winning on there. And they have no investment in the app. Yeah. So it's all consumer and then use. You're being used. And yeah, like they'll let you get on there and hustle some products, run some ads, but they're not paying you specifically for the content and the eyes that you bring to it. I think that's why Tick Tock was so sought after at a certain time. Because, I mean, especially even for me, there was a time on Tick Tock where I was making like 5k a month and it wasn't nothing, it wasn't no subscription service. It was just off the content I was posting. I was being compensated for keeping eyes on. On the app. Yeah. And I think that a lot of these apps that come from overseas have that incentive. I think Bigo was really big in like 2014-2018 because they was paying people just to like, just to make sure they was keeping eyes on the app. And. And since we've seen an American investment into TikTok, them numbers done. Shit, I ain't even making a quarter of that no more. I don't even know if I don't even. Yeah, I don't even look at Tick Tock is like the place to be no more. You know what I'm saying? They had this time because for people to be putting hours, literally like over the span of a month, hours into not only consuming the app, but creating on the app, it should, there should be conversation for that. Even if we don't create the infrastructure for it, we keep it popular. We make sure people are there. Like people are there for creators. They not there because if it was the same old song and dance, like even, even down to the, the, the gap in visibility, like white creators can get on there and just kick their feet and do a funny face and it's like shit. How the fuck you get 30 million views on that? You ain't do shit.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I think to kind of tap in with you as a second ago, I think one of the things we're going to do is eventually pay people to actually use the device. We're looking to create our own devices. This later down like phase two, once we really raise enough capital, get enough users. One of my advisors, he's my fractional cto, Robert Frederick, actually he created aws. Funny story. He from Atlanta. He was the lead engineer. His dad was the engineer that created Marta Random, a man from Atlanta created aws. I want you to know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Jeff Bezos, Atlanta do really influence everything it do.

[B]

Atlanta influenced everything. Jeff Bezos flew to Atlanta, got my boy Rob, cut him A check took him to Seattle and he created aws.

[A]

And he still got investment in that now.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, he in Seattle now, but he's creating a lot of our tech. The app, the. The service where I'll be able to play pay users, data sharing.

[A]

Like, Rob is black, man. Yeah, listen, man. Well, but this, the thing, this is not uncommon. This is literally American history.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The reason why these lights stay on as long as they do, because Louis Letterman. So there. And. And. And we can go down the line. We just did the whole episode about this where we talked about all the black inventions and improvements to prior technologies. You know, just something as simple as the doorknob.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean? Like from the doorknob to the GPS system, that's all this. And so it's like oftentimes, like you said, we give away the culture, but we give away creation more than anything. I think the biggest aspect of black culture is creation and invention and then not only creating it and inventing it, but pushing eyes to it, like making it popular. You know what I mean? And I think that what you're doing is amazing. And like, that's why I wanted to lend the platform to you, so you could talk more about it. Because I think that there is going to be more and more interest in divesting from bigger corporations, especially when we see them being invested in, you know, genocides and shit like that, just to be frank. Like, yeah, people are. People are dying at the hands of their investments. And people want to be. They don't want to feel like that blood is on their hands too. Because the empathetic person understands, like, if I'm spending my money here, I'm directly impacting thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of people suffering. You know what I mean? So even when we speak down to the Congos, things like that, like all of those things, people feel implicated in that. Even if it's. It's a minor implication. You know, I think the. The moral standard of people is rising the more that we see the moral standards of our government lowering. Yep. So I appreciate you, bro, pulling up again. Before you go, though, let's talk about where they can find you, where they can invest, and, you know, even your social media, if that. If that's a way for people to get connected to you. And then, you know, we'll be at a trap museum in a minute. You hear me?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Pull up.

[B]

We funded.com/culture wireless@culture Wireless on Instagram, Facebook and everything else.

[A]

All right, man. Well, this has been bam Sparks Atlanta native. You know what I mean? That Zone 1 Zone 4 area co founder trap music museum and founder of culture wireless and this has been episode one of them it's been one of the episodes. You know what I mean? Big head, did you have any questions while you sit in the back? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anybody else got questions? You know what I mean? Yeah. You need to see how we leave it we leave it to the people. You know what I mean? But yeah. This has been episode of the grizzly nays podcast. I'm your host Deontay Kyle who's behind the camera you guys could keep yet we and signing off with Bam Sparks. We'll see you next time me up man.

[B]

It's just rap.

[A]

I just want to rap you I just want to rap. Yeah.

[B]

They say without the proper labor faith don't stand a chance I put my faith in faith and stand on first land I planted seeds Adeline deed turning the trees before rest in peace teas.

[A]

Get printed to me.