Episode 98 - Boot Strap Mentality

Summary

Grits and Eggs Podcast – Episode 98: "Boot Strap Mentality"

Date: November 4, 2025
Host: Deante’ Kyle
Guests/Co-hosts: Big Ice Cup, Big Cat

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Overview

In this episode, Deante’ Kyle and his co-hosts Big Ice Cup and Big Cat deliver a raw, unfiltered breakdown of pop culture, current events, “boot strap” ideology, government cuts, hip hop’s Billboard drop-off, community activism, and practical advice for listeners. True to the Grits and Eggs spirit, this episode balances serious political critique with humor, music commentary, and heartfelt listener exchanges. The tone is unapologetically Black, deeply communal, and always focused on authenticity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Hip Hop’s Place on the Billboard, Corporate vs. Culture

• [19:32-28:07]
  • Lament over the first time since 1990 that no hip hop tracks appeared on the Billboard Top 40.
  • The crew frames this as both a loss and a win: "Hip hop is going back underground. If you can't tell, now." (Deante’ Kyle, [21:17])
  • Corporate vs. Culture:
    • The commodification and commercialization of hip hop is contrasted with authentic, community-rooted expression.
    • The drop may be a blessing, encouraging a return to lyricism.
    • “Now culture gotta push that pen.” (Deante’ Kyle, [21:27])
    • Criticism of casual hip hop consumers and “spoon feeding” through commercial channels, especially Drake.
    • Shoutouts to artists and outlets still moving the culture forward (e.g., LaRussell, Freddie Gibbs, Lil Simz, Rapsody).

2. Boot Strap Mentality & SNAP/Welfare Cuts

• [34:25-64:05]
  • A systematic breakdown of how U.S. government SNAP benefit cuts will affect millions, especially in Black communities but with direct hits to poor whites as well.
  • Comparisons to historic and global famines caused by policy and empire.
  • Kyle explains that “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” rhetoric is a control tactic for all marginalized Americans, not just Black people.
  • Notable Rant:
    • “If we can fund welfare in foreign countries, then Americans should feel entitled to the government covering basic needs. Free healthcare, free education in Israel...cut all of our soybean and beef exports and gave it to Argentina.” (Deante’ Kyle, [40:04])
    • Intense critique of whiteness as a “cult” (Big Ice Cup, [53:38]) and the scapegoating of Black Americans for welfare dependency, despite statistical data disproving this narrative.
    • “The real welfare queen has always been white women.” (Deante’ Kyle, [39:08])
  • Calls for mutual aid, Black and brown community support, and striking against exploitative corporations.
  • “Parenting is about presence, not presents. F*** Christmas. F*** Santa Claus, nigga.” (Deante’ Kyle, [57:41])
  • Reiterated advice: don’t waste resources on consumer traditions; prioritize solidarity and survival.

3. Party Recap & Hosting Business

• [12:53-18:31]
  • Recap of Jasmine's Halloween/fundraising party, highlighting both fun and the importance of community support (food drives, coat drives).
  • Jokes about aging and not being able to party two nights in a row.
  • Cautionary humor about tall light-skinned dudes in tactical gear.

4. Community Led Solutions: Striking & Mutual Aid

• [55:00-64:05]
  • Big endorsement of local mayors (e.g., Brandon Johnson, Atlanta mayor) pausing evictions and urging general strikes.
  • Discussion of the economic power of Black and brown labor, and the transformative potential of solidarity.

5. Listener Voicemails & Advice Corner

• a. Education/Mutual Aid Plug ([64:25-65:42])
  Ms. Zoe calls in to promote Desire Destiny Learning Center and their education mission in Fayetteville, NC.
• b. Pursuing Passion vs. Providing ([65:57-70:56])
  Chris, a truck driver and rapper, asks if he should give up music for practicality.
  • Deante’: “You never give up the things that bring you joy… Sometimes you just need to have things that bring you peace. You don’t have to monetize all your talents.” ([67:46])
• c. Debt, Family Boundaries, and Co-Parenting ([71:03–75:29])
  • Call from North Philly woman: How to handle being used, child support & co-parenting boundaries.
  • Big Cat: “You can’t pour from an empty cup, so you can’t let people run you dry.”
  • “You gotta chip in... Baby needs food.” ([74:39])
• d. Husband Not “Doing the Knowledge” ([75:39–91:28])
  • Woman feels her husband lacks intellectual curiosity and parenting depth (too much weed, sports betting, son = iPad kid).
  • Advice: Have open communication, don’t expect partner to fulfill all needs, “Don’t compare him to us,” and seek therapy if needed.
  • “You already knew who this n***a was before you married him.” (Deante’, [88:41])
• e. Black/Brown Fatherhood ([91:39–96:49])
  • Latino listener about to have an Afro-Latino daughter asks about fatherhood.
  • “The fact that you’re already thinking about how to be the best dad makes you gonna be an incredible father.” (Deante’, [95:52])
• f. Carpenter Weighs Trucking Switch ([97:34–103:29])
  • Listener wants to leave carpentry for trucking due to low pay vs. time with family.
  • Strong advice to “stay down” with the craft, avoid chasing money at the expense of long-term security and family presence.

6. Calls to Action / Community Empowerment

• Encourage listeners to minimize holiday spending, support local/Black business, maintain mutual aid, consider general strikes, and focus on long-term resilience.
• Recurrent reminders of Grits and Eggs community: "We're going to be all right, y'all. We already looking out for each other." ([55:05])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Hip Hop & Culture

• "Now is the time to push a pen.” – Deante’ Kyle, [21:27]
• “If you say the girls is just making pussy rap, you don’t really listen to hip hop” – Big Ice Cup, [24:46]
• “If hip hop's doing good, we doing good. If the people doing good, then hip hop doing good.” – Big Ice Cup & Deante’ Kyle, [27:33]

On SNAP & Boot Strap Mentality

• “Free healthcare, free education in Israel...cut all of our soybean and beef exports and gave it to Argentina.” – Deante’ Kyle, [40:04]
• “The real welfare queen has always been white women.” – Deante’ Kyle, [39:08]
• “If you ain’t feeding your wolves, you gonna end up on the plate.” – Big Ice Cup, [29:00]
• "Parenting is about presence, not presents. F*** Christmas. F*** Santa Claus, nigga." – Deante’ Kyle, [57:41]
• “It’s the cult of whiteness… it’s not a real thing.” – Caller/Hosts, [53:38]

On Advice and Life

• “You never give up the things that bring you joy…” – Deante’ Kyle, [67:46]
• “You can’t pour from an empty cup, so you can’t let people run you dry.” – Big Cat, [72:51]
• “You already knew who this n***a was before you married him.” – Deante’ Kyle, [88:41]
• “The fact that you’re already thinking about how to be the best dad makes you gonna be an incredible father.” – Deante’, [95:52]
• “Don’t chase money… Chase experience.” – Deante’ Kyle, [100:04]

On Black Solidarity & Community

• “We gonna be all right, y’all. We already looking out for each other.” – Deante’ Kyle, [55:05]
• “If every Black person and every person of color stop going to work, this whole shit goes down.” – Deante’ Kyle, [56:25]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |--------------------------------------------|--------------------| | Party recap & new business idea | 12:53 – 18:31 | | Hip hop’s Billboard drop & critique | 19:32 – 28:07 | | Boot strap mentality & SNAP cuts | 34:25 – 64:05 | | Listener voicemails: education, advice | 64:25 – 103:29 | | General strike & empowerment | 55:00 – 64:05 | | Reflections on marriage, parenting | 75:39 – 91:28 | | Black/Brown fatherhood | 91:39 – 96:49 | | Career crossroads: carpentry & trucking | 97:34 – 103:29 |

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Tone & Style

The episode is energetic, irreverent, and passionate, moving seamlessly between hilarious tangents and profound cultural commentary. The hosts make space for vulnerability and tough conversations, while always centering community and Black resilience.

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Final Thoughts

Episode 98 is emblematic of Grits and Eggs at its best—socially conscious, fiercely communal, and hilariously unfiltered. The hosts challenge dominant narratives around Black life, labor, and hip hop, all while empowering listeners to seek joy, practice mutual aid, and never stop "doing the knowledge."

Next Up: Episode 99 featuring Ariel J, and a surprise guest for Episode 100!

Transcript

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[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, we back? Oh, we back.

[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Big Cat]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

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[Deontay Kyle]

They would never guess the guest.

[Big Cat]

Nah.

[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Deontayantaykyle.com for all booking and inquiries for go to deontay kyle.com you can see the latest episodes. You it'll. It'll slow walk you right into the patreon. There is a tab there for the shop. If you go on the shop, it'll send you to grits in eggs dot com. That's G R I T S N E G G S. That's where all of our merch is. Again, if you're on that Patreon, $8. We do have exclusive merch just for the cousins. So you got to tap in, you got to yap in. Advice@deontay Kyle.com NMM New Music Monday NMM@Deontay Kyle.com for all your new music Monday submissions that will be appearing on grits and eggs radio YouTube page. Yes. Gritson eggs radio. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

The label.

[Big Cat]

Gritson Eggs. The label.

[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

We got everything over here.

[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

What a week we had.

[Deontay Kyle]

How many times are we going to be able to say that? Forever.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, forever, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Yeah. What a week.

[Big Ice Cup]

So recap. Before we get into recap, I do.

[Deontay Kyle]

Want to say this.

[Big Cat]

What you want to say, son?

[Big Ice Cup]

You matter.

[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Big Cat]

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[Deontay Kyle]

The old buccaneers. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

In the spirit of supporting black business.

[Deontay Kyle]

As we do here all the time, I do want to apologize for the ongoing ad. I wasn't looking at how like many ads they was putting on the episodes and I went last week to kind of control and I was like, damn, they are throwing too many ads. So I'm going to listen to YouTube ads that y' all see. I think like they had them joints every 10 minutes. I didn't paste it out to like every 30 minutes.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Something like every like 20 to 30 minutes. Because we still want to get some ad dollars. Yeah, yeah, but that's. They Was doing way too much.

[Big Cat]

A lot of ad dollars.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

20Ad dollars?

[Deontay Kyle]

What? Come on.

[Big Ice Cup]

All the ad dollars.

[Deontay Kyle]

Every ad dollar they can squeeze out of one episode. Jesus Christ. And I don't like watching a podcast and it's fucking ads every 10 minutes, like in the middle of conversation and everything. So, like, my apologies. I was not aware, but I am aware now. And when you become aware of things, you make changes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Big Cat]

When they send you the money.

[Big Ice Cup]

When they send me the money.

[Deontay Kyle]

I got them because I with this cup, right? I might just have to turn that about face, huh?

[Big Cat]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Big Cat]

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[Big Ice Cup]

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[Big Cat]

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[Deontay Kyle]

Oh.

[Big Ice Cup]

Grizzen AIDS ad, boys.

[Big Cat]

Good ads.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not the YouTube ads.

[Big Ice Cup]

The real ones.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

The ones that matter. You matter.

[Deontay Kyle]

There we go.

[Big Cat]

There we go.

[Big Ice Cup]

Big ice cup.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is why he gets paid the big bucks. Yeah. So we. We. We. We're gonna. We're gonna. We're gonna switch some things up. I. I'm. I can control how many YouTube ads get y'. All. We ain't doing nothing.

[Big Ice Cup]

You get that first one when you hit play.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

And then we gonna let you cook.

[Deontay Kyle]

For about 10, at least 15 minutes. Yeah, we're gonna run ads for you, Know what I'm saying? That's what we do out here. Ads.

[Big Cat]

The ad.

[Big Ice Cup]

Shout out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Circus.

[Big Ice Cup]

Shout out to circus. Shout out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Coffee black.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Motherland, baby.

[Big Ice Cup]

They've been down with us from the beginning.

[Big Cat]

Stay down.

[Big Ice Cup]

They stand down now.

[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

They've seen.

[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Ice Cup]

God damn it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hoarding myself out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's add dollars.

[Big Ice Cup]

An ad dollar.

[Big Cat]

Whore. He's ADD whore.

[Deontay Kyle]

Make it rain. Bands will make a dance, man. All right, we are starting a new business, guys. Me and Big Cat is getting into the hosting business.

[Big Cat]

Hey, you want us?

[Big Ice Cup]

You want us? Come get us. We hosted Jasmine's Halloween party.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Let me tell you something, brother.

[Big Cat]

I had a great time.

[Deontay Kyle]

I have.

[Big Ice Cup]

I. I don't. I think that might be the best.

[Deontay Kyle]

Time I've ever had at a party.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Like normally a party, it'd be a vibe.

[Deontay Kyle]

You need the Drinks. To get the drinks flowing that night.

[Big Ice Cup]

It was.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was jumping from beginning to literally end. It was, you know, this party starts at 9. Getting in there about 10, 10:30.

[Big Ice Cup]

From 10:30 to 2, nigga, it was on.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was having the time of my life.

[Big Cat]

It was on, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

I sweated my horns off.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Had to come up out my jacket.

[Big Ice Cup]

I eventually just popped the horns off of him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Hold that down for you. I was like, what the fuck is this?

[Deontay Kyle]

That's my horns, baby.

[Big Ice Cup]

After the night, I'm done being Antichrist.

[Big Cat]

And he parted the Antichrist out of them.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They had so much fun. The Antichrist came out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I sweat it, motherfucker. Sweat them out, dude. Little tequila, get rid of Antichrist.

[Big Cat]

Little holy water.

[Deontay Kyle]

Little Mexican holy water right up out your body. First of all, I'mma tell you how y' all is. Y' all drunk the party dry.

[Big Cat]

Hey.

[Big Ice Cup]

What? What, son?

[Big Cat]

I ain't never seen the party get drunk dry.

[Big Ice Cup]

I've never seen drink a party dry.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah. And bro, it was so much alcohol.

[Big Cat]

They drunk it dry.

[Deontay Kyle]

They drunk us dry.

[Big Ice Cup]

But we see why. The last thing.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cuz we was having a. We was having a. So smoke stacks and Larry's and Mary's. I would say Larry.

[Big Ice Cup]

Who the is Larry? Larry's and Mary's. It was Annie's. It was everybody. She looked like the 1920s in that.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was a good time, man.

[Big Cat]

We had a ball.

[Big Ice Cup]

I'm gonna tell you something about Jasmine. Yeah. She knows how to throw a party.

[Big Cat]

She could throw a goddamn party.

[Deontay Kyle]

And she knows how to throw a fundraiser. Yes, sir. We raise some money for those people experiencing food insecurity.

[Big Ice Cup]

Good coat drive.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

People had their non perishables.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was all good. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

It's all love.

[Deontay Kyle]

If she ever invite me anywhere again, I'll be there. Yeah, you know we will.

[Big Cat]

We're gonna be there, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's. That's my la familia. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Locked in.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's my la familia. Locked in. But hell yeah. Man, that party was so lit, dog. Like, I seen you made a little goddamn story about me, too. Who?

[Big Ice Cup]

You? I made a story about you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

You're not gonna have me.

[Deontay Kyle]

No.

[Big Cat]

Listen. Tell you something. You got one good night out of me, baby.

[Big Ice Cup]

You got one.

[Big Cat]

You got one night every weekend. It's a Saturday or Saturday. You pick.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't care.

[Big Ice Cup]

You pick.

[Big Cat]

But two nights in a row to four in the morning, I'm not doing It. I'm not going back to. Back to, back out all night with you, nigga, I'm not doing it.

[Big Ice Cup]

You don't be having fun.

[Deontay Kyle]

I be having.

[Big Ice Cup]

I'll be having a ball.

[Big Cat]

But when I get up in the morning and I look in the mirror, nigga, you're 36.

[Big Ice Cup]

You're 36.

[Deontay Kyle]

What are you doing? I'll be waking up like, whoa, what a night.

[Big Ice Cup]

Get right back to it. I'm not gonna keep perpetuating this light.

[Deontay Kyle]

That I don't stay out all night. Hey, listen, I be telling. Oh, man, you know me. I don't be. I don't be vibing. I'll be party. I'll be staying all night. That was a goddamn lie.

[Big Cat]

I can do it. I can do it. But it's just like, man, God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, God damn. The thing is, is I haven't done it in such a long time. You know what I'm saying? Like, I haven't. I haven't been an outside person, but for these last six months, brother, have.

[Big Cat]

Been outside the last six months.

[Deontay Kyle]

Tell you something about the streets of Atlanta. They know me. Well, now they got us. Yeah. Well, I'll say this. It's getting cold outside.

[Big Cat]

It is.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna hibernate.

[Big Cat]

Stand inside.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm staying in the crib, baby. Yeah. You know. You know, fingers crossed, man.

[Big Cat]

We got. We got some lined up, though. We gotta go outside, though.

[Deontay Kyle]

We do gotta go outside. Yeah. We're going outside for business and business only. Business only, baby. Keep this thing strictly business.

[Big Cat]

Well, that's how it always start. It always start off as business. Any way. It's like the business first, then it's like, hey, yo, man, you wanna slide over here, you know, be right over here. That goddamn B right.

[Big Ice Cup]

I'm telling you, it's him. That goddamn B right.

[Big Cat]

I'm telling you.

[Big Ice Cup]

Who it is. I know who the problem is, is that fucking B right. B right.

[Big Cat]

To have you out all night, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Man, be right, B right? Or leave a spot at 3 in the morning, like, what y' all trying to do.

[Big Ice Cup]

Y' all trying to go somewhere next? No, I'm trying to go home. I wanna go home. B right.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't wanna.

[Big Ice Cup]

I don't wanna wake up. I don't wanna see the sun before.

[Deontay Kyle]

I go to sleep. Listen, I ain't seen the sun before I went to sleep since I stopped doing coke.

[Big Cat]

I'm in the spot. It's a lot of things happening in the spot. A lot of things going on.

[Deontay Kyle]

What spot you Talking about the.

[Big Cat]

The upstairs spot.

[Deontay Kyle]

We went to the Halloween party.

[Big Ice Cup]

It was a lot going.

[Big Cat]

There's a lot going on, right?

[Big Ice Cup]

I look over to my.

[Big Cat]

To my left. I don't know where it's Dochi shaking ass.

[Big Ice Cup]

The she getting here. Where the she get. First of all, first of all, Doji.

[Deontay Kyle]

And her homegirls was throwing it.

[Big Cat]

That was throwing the ass.

[Big Ice Cup]

I said, what the hell? Where am I at?

[Deontay Kyle]

I wanted to go over there.

[Big Cat]

Huh?

[Deontay Kyle]

But, yeah, everything ain't everything, you know? Big, tall, light skinned, guarding those premises. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's nothing scarier than the tall, light skinned.

[Big Cat]

And it was a pit bull.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Like a red nose. Yeah, yeah. Nothing scarier than that. You know what I'm saying? You can tell he's bald.

[Big Cat]

He's balder than the hat.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's what I'm saying. A bald with a head is dangerous.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because it really ain't covering nothing.

[Big Ice Cup]

Nothing dark in this.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ain't no sun out.

[Big Ice Cup]

So you ain't even protecting your head, right. You're just protecting your identity, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm scared of. I'm scared of a big Boris Kojo.

[Big Ice Cup]

Look at that big ball, light skinned.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm cool on the tactical ass. I want nothing to do with that.

[Big Cat]

I want no smoke.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I'm straight. I'm gonna start moving around with McCoy like that. I'm gonna tell y', all, if y' all see me outside with a short in tactical gear with a beard, leave that alone.

[Big Cat]

Leave him alone.

[Big Ice Cup]

Matter of fact, leave me alone.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause he finna crash. I'm telling you, he's gonna crash.

[Big Ice Cup]

This is a dangerous young man, you know what I'm saying? It's a dangerous individual.

[Big Cat]

He don't give a damn.

[Big Ice Cup]

I don't want to see it happen to you.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you see me outside with a.

[Big Ice Cup]

In all green tactical gear that look like he ain't with the bullshit.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's not.

[Big Cat]

He's not with it, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

So I'm just telling you, speak to me for 15ft and allow me to usher you over.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because every time I bring this to my event, he praying something go left.

[Big Cat]

He praying it.

[Deontay Kyle]

He wanted to go left.

[Big Cat]

He want to slam through the dj.

[Big Ice Cup]

He ready for it.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Shout out my boy McCoy.

[Big Ice Cup]

We recording right here. Yeah, you record.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, guys. All right. Hip hop, hip hop, hip hop, hip hop. Real hip hop for the first time since 1990.

[Big Cat]

God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

No hip hop tracks on the Billboard. What was it? Top 50, top 40, top 40, top 40, Top 40. 35 year street ends, there's all this calls for concern. First of all, that tell you how popping rap is? Cause we don't know when other genres fade out. Yeah, yeah, I always focus on our shit, you know what I'm saying? Ooh, yeah. Sad state of affairs. No. First of all, the Dodgers beat the Blue Jays. Another win for la.

[Big Cat]

La, baby. West coast just keep winning.

[Deontay Kyle]

God damn it. God damn it. Toronto can't catch a W.

[Big Ice Cup]

What a tail, though. What a tail. First of all, Toronto can't keep catch.

[Deontay Kyle]

A fucking W to save their life. Damn it, Drake. Not against la, not against la. They did the. They stand a chance against mad. The la not like us. They. As soon as they won that, I was like, oh, that's crazy to have the corporations just stomping them up hole in you. Golly, who's running these pages? Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably I' ma say this, this is not a bad. This is not bad. First of all, they just changed the rules. So they changed the rules about how long you can stay on the Billboard top 40, which kicked Luther out of the top 40. Okay. And I believe one other track, I'm not 100% sure, but Smino made a statement and he said hip hop is going back underground. If you can't tell. Now that is where I like to chime in. That's where I like it.

[Big Ice Cup]

Now during the beef, I said that.

[Deontay Kyle]

This was corporate versus culture. Culture One, when culture wins, the corporations tend to separate themselves in the commercial. You know what I'm saying? Kendrick has had a lot of commercial success in his touring and his run. He did the super bowl, all of these different things. But culturally, what this is doing is making niggas push that pin. Because there's no reason why a song from Comicopia or Don't Talk that Tap that Glass is not in the Billboard top 40. But even with Tyler kind of creating a separation of his self from his commercial fan base versus his cultural fan base, where he obviously wants to live at. We saw that when he did his d' Angelo tribute. And we'll get into. I mean, I think that Tyler thing, I explained it on threads the best I could, but like, I'm not holding nothing against a 15, 16 year old. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, obviously when you that young, you have identity issues, maybe some self esteem issues. You know, we all trying to find our spots. And being an edgelord, that's gonna put you among the whites, that just is what it is. But as he grows, you can see the wealth of, like, knowledge that he has culturally and, like, who he is and where he's from and, like, what his foundation is. And, you know, sometimes, you know, we stray away. We get caught up in this world. Especially if you don't want to be no street nigga, it don't feel like there's a lot of options for you, especially somebody growing up in Hawthorne, California. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Hawthorne ain't nothing to sneeze at.

[Big Cat]

No, not at all.

[Deontay Kyle]

But, you know, if you don't want to bang, just send you in a multitude of different directions.

[Big Ice Cup]

But I say this, this is actually.

[Deontay Kyle]

A win for hip hop. Right now is the time. Now is the time to push a pen.

[Big Cat]

I agree.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you ain't hip to Gris n radio, if you don't listen to rap latte, if you're not listening to Rob Markman, if you're not listening to B Dot, if you like, if you're not.

[Big Ice Cup]

Tapped in with niggas from the culture.

[Deontay Kyle]

Black people from the culture, if you don't watch Adri when she cook up and give you hip hop knowledge, if you're not tapped into the culture of hip hop and you only get it from white publications, especially these white publications on Twitter that hide behind avatars and you don't know who the fuck is running the pages, or you get your hip hop news from fat fuck niggas, like academics, then you don't really know hip hop.

[Big Ice Cup]

You're not. You're not tapping into the culture. You, you are you a bystander and.

[Deontay Kyle]

You'Re, you know, a casual consumer. And you shouldn't have an opinion on this shit anyway. Okay?

[Big Ice Cup]

People from this culture should be the.

[Deontay Kyle]

Only people reporting on the culture.

[Big Ice Cup]

The only person I like from outside.

[Deontay Kyle]

The culture that reports on it is the Dissect podcast dude. And that's because he has a niche role and dissecting lyrics into greater meanings.

[Big Ice Cup]

He actually cares about the craft to.

[Deontay Kyle]

The point where he's breaking down the language of the craft, but he's not giving his opinion.

[Big Ice Cup]

He ain't rating albums.

[Deontay Kyle]

He ain't saying what's good and what's not. He simply diving into the lyricism of it. Now, this is when it's gonna be time to push a pin.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, it's time to push a pin. If we wanna sit here and act.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like it's not great albums that have been coming out, then you don't really listen to Hip hop.

[Big Ice Cup]

If you say the girls is just making pussy rap, you don't really listen to hip hop. You need to change the way that.

[Deontay Kyle]

You consume this culture.

[Big Ice Cup]

See, you've been, you see Drake just.

[Deontay Kyle]

Been spoon feeding you the culture from the corporate commercial level, from the top down, okay?

[Big Ice Cup]

So that's how you hip. Anybody he do a feature with. Now you a fan of them, now.

[Deontay Kyle]

You hip to them.

[Big Ice Cup]

But that's spoon feeding you what the.

[Deontay Kyle]

Culture and the corporations want.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's not really.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're not digging in the crate, so to speak.

[Big Ice Cup]

You gotta go do your own research. You gotta find out what's poppin on your own. You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

And it ain't just gonna always be these people that show up at festivals.

[Big Ice Cup]

Cause you ain't gonna find a navy blue at a festival.

[Big Cat]

No, you're not.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're not gonna find a Earl sweatshirt or a mic at a festival.

[Big Ice Cup]

You ain't gonna find Marco plus Jiggs285 at a festival. You're not gonna find them at a festival, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

It just is what it is. But if you want real hip hop, you gotta go search it out, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

Like what's your boy name?

[Deontay Kyle]

Rick Hyde. Rick Hyde. You know what I'm saying? Freddie gives just a phenomenal lyric for an album sold out, 5000 seater in Chicago. Pulled up to the Red Rocks in Colorado dressed as Frozone.

[Big Ice Cup]

You not gonna find that on the.

[Deontay Kyle]

Commercial front of these things. You gotta really be a fan of this culture. You gotta be a fan of lyricism.

[Big Ice Cup]

You know, you want to check out a Lil Sims, you want to check out a rhapsody, you gotta go looking for that. And the thing is, it's like I don't bother myself with like casual consumers and. And I, I damn sure don't want.

[Deontay Kyle]

To hear your opinion on it.

[Big Ice Cup]

Now for all my people, especially my rappers, especially the people that really want.

[Deontay Kyle]

To push that pin, I'm urge you to perform more.

[Big Ice Cup]

You gonna see LaRussell perform.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ain't no backing tracks.

[Big Cat]

He's straight, he's straight gone.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's straight going, yeah, when we was.

[Big Ice Cup]

At the Freddy show, wasn't no backing tracks.

[Deontay Kyle]

Straight going, you just going, that's hip hop. If I wanted to go to a.

[Big Ice Cup]

Fucking karaoke, yeah, I'd do that, you know what I'm saying? The way that Kiss was performing at the Verses, that's how you do that. Cut the backing vocals off, turn up.

[Deontay Kyle]

The ad libs and turn up some of the ins and outs.

[Big Ice Cup]

And get to it and trust your crowd. Know your shit. It's a win for hip hop. Do we want these people validation or not? We'll say. We say it every year. Oh, we don't care about no numbers. We don't care about no numbers. Then when start talking numbers, y' all say, oh, is hip hop. Is hip hop dying? Is hip hop in a bad space?

[Big Cat]

No, hip hop's in a great space.

[Big Ice Cup]

It's in a great space. We're back in control of it. You should want niggas. You should want these carpet to jump ship and get out your so you can own your again. You created it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Is hip hop in a bad space?

[Big Ice Cup]

Like Most Def said, if hip hop.

[Deontay Kyle]

Is doing good, we doing good.

[Big Ice Cup]

If the people doing good, then hip.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hop is doing good.

[Big Ice Cup]

If the people confused, then hip hop is confused. We need to clear up the confusion.

[Deontay Kyle]

About whether we want these white folks validation or not.

[Big Ice Cup]

Because we want that validation and we seek to be a part of their conversation, then hip hop is in a bad space. But if we want to be culturally connected, if we want to gatekeeper, and we want this shit to be dictated.

[Deontay Kyle]

About our culture, about our culture and.

[Big Ice Cup]

What our culture seeks to, like, express itself, then hip hop is in a.

[Deontay Kyle]

Great space for sure.

[Big Ice Cup]

And also read the fucking room, rap. Niggas read the room, nigga. Niggas ain't doing so well outside. So I don't care about your ice, I don't care about your motherfucking chain. I don't care about your passport, I don't care about your new whip. Talk about what's going on outside. Find a way to infuse that. Find a way to get back real and get back in tune with the streets. All that flexing and flashing shit ain't gonna get it no more. This shit gonna have you looking like.

[Deontay Kyle]

A lick in about two months.

[Big Ice Cup]

Hey, it's getting cold outside. Summertime, they say that's a killing season.

[Deontay Kyle]

Wintertime, wintertime, it's that robbing season.

[Big Cat]

But naked.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't want to see you.

[Big Ice Cup]

I don't want to see you running.

[Deontay Kyle]

Down the block in your drawers. Yeah, and it's 30 degrees outside.

[Big Ice Cup]

I don't want to see that happen to you.

[Big Cat]

It's a bad look.

[Big Ice Cup]

It's a bad look. You and wife be the drawers and socks running down the block. Nigga done stripped you out your true religion fit. Cause you think you, you think you fucking two chains in 2010. Damn right. I got it. That's how niggas gonna be. Yeah, I got all your shit. Look, man, read the room, man. They just cut the snap benefits. There's gonna be people out here very hungry. If you ain't feeding your wolves, you gonna end up on the plate. Hey, let's get the hip hop. I'm tired of this hip hop. Of this hip hop. That's not reflective of the society, especially not the society that you come from. It's time to start pushing that pin, bro. And push the pin. Push the performance and push reality. You know what I'm saying? Not just your reality, but be a voice. Cause if niggas don't feel like they can relate to you, you know, them days is over. Because I'm tired. The thing is, if I ain't got no money, I don't want to hear.

[Deontay Kyle]

About you talking about all your fucking money no more.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, that's what we got away from. That bling bling era really ushered in the commercialization of hip hop.

[Deontay Kyle]

And.

[Big Ice Cup]

And we see culturally now. Let's talk about culture, okay?

[Deontay Kyle]

Versus cash money. No limit, right?

[Big Ice Cup]

Master P, he spoke culturally, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

That.

[Big Ice Cup]

That Birdman was speaking that corporate. I started this. This bling. I started this stunting.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

I had the first nigga with diamonds in my teeth. How SMP respond? I'm about everybody. You got about it. I'm about this. You talking about I take them diamonds out your teeth? I represent.

[Big Cat]

Real New Orleans.

[Big Ice Cup]

Real New Orleans.

[Big Cat]

Know it is.

[Big Ice Cup]

Start talking.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I represent, huh?

[Big Ice Cup]

Man, look, that's culture.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's not that corporate shit. The niggas gotta get off that stunt and shit for a little bit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

You hear what I mean? Need to get outside and see. Okay, Instead of buying $250,000 chain, why don't you donate $200,000 to a food bank and make sure these people outside eating. Because I'm telling you that 250 coming up off your fucking neck if you playing around.

[Big Cat]

Or your neck might come up with the chain.

[Big Ice Cup]

Neck might come in, might behead you out here. Get with the times, nigga. Be reflective of the society also, too. Stop wasting your fucking bread. Damn, man, you niggas is in prime position. You know all the talent. You can start your own label. You can start your own A and R firm. You can start your own distribution. You won't do it. You want to buy more fucking necklaces? Why you got so many necklace?

[Big Cat]

You only got one neck.

[Big Ice Cup]

You only got one motherfucking neck. We done been there, we done that, we went bling bling. God damn, Mr. T. Yeah, man, we Seen niggas outside in the prowlers, in the parking lot.

[Big Cat]

We've seen it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Now you niggas out there, 10 years, niggas gonna be in slingshots playing oldies. It's time we. We off that. Let's. Let's get bare bones again.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Take the watch off. Take the bracelet off. Put the necklace down. Listen who you are without Autumn accessories. What you really talking about? I'll tell you who do a great job of this shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Who?

[Big Ice Cup]

That nigga Sauce Walker.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Yes. Even though he do be blinged out, he does a great job, though.

[Big Ice Cup]

He keep a balance. He keeps talking about real life.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he does.

[Big Ice Cup]

He be talking about real life.

[Big Cat]

No, Sauce Walker is dope.

[Big Ice Cup]

If you can come with the conviction and the experience that Sauce Walker did. See, Yachty tried. Yachty can't keep up with like that.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no.

[Big Ice Cup]

He tried to. He tried to tap into whatever Sauce Walker doing.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's just.

[Big Ice Cup]

It's not compatible, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Niggas believe that coming from Sauce, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

We respect Yachty artistry, you know what I mean?

[Deontay Kyle]

Like you doing your thing, whatever the case may be.

[Big Ice Cup]

I respect the fact that the nigga.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get on them drumless beats and really put it forth for effort to push the pin.

[Big Cat]

He does, he does.

[Big Ice Cup]

He put forth for effort to push in the pin.

[Deontay Kyle]

It might not.

[Big Ice Cup]

It don't hit the same. But he.

[Deontay Kyle]

He trying his best. He's trying.

[Big Ice Cup]

He trying. That George Floyd Bar was out of pocket, my nigga.

[Deontay Kyle]

That kind of thing, that was wild.

[Big Ice Cup]

And you know what I'm saying.

[Deontay Kyle]

Met you in LA was respect.

[Big Ice Cup]

We respect it. That George Four Block, George Floyd Bar that turned me off, brother.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I see your name show up on. I don't even want to hear it no more. I'm just keeping it being with you. I'm just keeping it being. Because we gotta address like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's how find theyself in murky waters when they want to get back to the culture. Because I tell you who will be rapping that bar, white boy. They don't know nothing about this. And thinking funny and thinking sweet. All right, let's tighten up. Let's tighten up. Let's talk about. Let's start thinking about how we speak.

[Deontay Kyle]

About our people in our music, Right? All right.

[Big Ice Cup]

Smino said this shit go back underground. You better go underground with it. But while you underground, you better come back with some motherfucking nuggets.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hmm? Okay, then. EBT cuts starving a population. Well, well, well, well.

[Big Cat]

We see what's happening.

[Deontay Kyle]

We see what's going on and we.

[Big Cat]

See where the money's going.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, man, I'm gonna take a quick break. We finna cook. All right, we back. Hey, big cat. Yo, yo, before we get into it, it's official, okay? That New York show sold out. Oh, they think that friends giving that sold out. Oh, shout out to the cousin. Yeah, man, shout out to all the listeners. Man, y' all showing so many love. Now let's talk about empires that starve their citizens. British Empire Ireland Great famine of the 19th century was exacerbated by British politics policies India the Bengal famine of 1943 occurred during British rule, starving their citizens. Soviet Union Ukraine the Hollow Dimore 1932-1933Aman made famine attributed to the Soviet government's policies such as confiscation of grain. Joseph Stalin Kazakhstan Kazakhstan famine 19301933 Russia the Russian famine of 1921 through 1922 Nazi Germany concentration camps and ghettos Nazi policies led to widespread starvation and concentration camps and ghettos throughout occupied Europe during World War II. Ottoman Empire Mount Lebanon the Great Famine of Mount Lebanon during World War I. Mongol Empire Eurasia Mongol conquest resulted in widespread death and destruction across Eurasia, with some historians classifying the acts as genocidal. And the Maya civilization's decline is linked to severe drought that caused famine and thirst. Though this is not considered to be an empire because they're not white and communist China the great Chinese famine 1959 through 1961 was caused by the policies of the Great Leap Forward and other factors leading to tens of millions of deaths.

[Big Ice Cup]

So.

[Deontay Kyle]

A man that wants to be a king. Kings rule empires.

[Big Ice Cup]

Has the resources to continue SNAP benefits.

[Deontay Kyle]

Even while the government is shut down. Government is shut down because the right wants to take away your Medicaid completely.

[Big Ice Cup]

So if you're not gonna let me take away your medical benefits, I'm gonna.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just starve you to death. 42 million Americans are on SNAP benefits.

[Big Ice Cup]

SNAP benefits, EBT, food stamps, all the same shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

I know you whites like to get confused when y'. All Just like when y' all heard Obamacare versus the Affordable Care Act.

[Big Ice Cup]

This is how they keep you. This is how they keep you confused. They like to. They like to play the binary game.

[Deontay Kyle]

With y' all because they know you too ignorant to go do the research yourself.

[Big Ice Cup]

They know that you just going to take it at face value. That face look like you and that face represents you in their face. Talk the way that you want them.

[Deontay Kyle]

To talk, that you just listen to them.

[Big Ice Cup]

So you hear SNAP and you think snapping food stamps is two different things.

[Deontay Kyle]

You say things.

[Big Ice Cup]

Snapping EBT is two different things, and.

[Deontay Kyle]

It'S all the same.

[Big Ice Cup]

So whites being the overwhelming majority on snap, but online, making fun of black people, like black people are going to be the only ones going hungry. Only 20, 20, 20, only a quarter of the SNAP recipients are black people. The other 75% is occupied by white.

[Deontay Kyle]

People and people of color, overwhelmingly the majority being white. I think whites account for 38% of SNAP benefit SNAP beneficiaries.

[Big Ice Cup]

So then we use AI to reinforce.

[Deontay Kyle]

This welfare queen stereotype.

[Big Ice Cup]

And then we get talking heads on.

[Deontay Kyle]

The news, talking about, oh, people are using SNAP benefits to buy wigs and get their nails done. That ain't even how this shit work. You can't even buy hot food on snap.

[Big Ice Cup]

So EBT cats is essentially trump, starving the population, basically playing chicken with the left. If you're not gonna let me take away these medical benefits, if you're not gonna let me cut Medicare, which will result in deaths, then we'll just starve the population. This your king. And white people have gall. They have a lot of gall when.

[Deontay Kyle]

The real welfare queen has always been white women.

[Big Ice Cup]

But that's how they get you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Lyndon B. Johnson already told us this long time ago, if you can convince.

[Big Ice Cup]

The poorest white man that he's better than black man just based on the.

[Deontay Kyle]

Color of his skin, he'll give you his money.

[Big Ice Cup]

And better yet, he won't even notice when you pick in his pocket. If we can afford to fund welfare in foreign countries, then Americans should feel entitled to the government covering basic needs. If we can fund welfare in foreign countries, then Americans should feel entitled to the government covering our basic needs. Free health care, free education in Israel funded by the US government, cut all of our soybean and beef exports and.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gave it to Argentina.

[Big Ice Cup]

They gonna eat good out there. They eat good in Israel. 42 million Americans on the brink of starvation, but yet y' all want to keep talking about pulling yourself up by the bootstraps. If they, if they can get all of these free benefits of a society, if they can live in a socialist society where they don't have to worry about food, health care or education funded by our dollar, then why is it a problem for it to happen in America? Well, the problem is you don't want black people to benefit from that. So you'll chop your own legs out from underneath you just so black people won't have anything and you ain't got shit. So the other, the greater 60% of white people will watch the lower 40% of white people starve if that means a quarter of black people starve with them.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ignorance. Ignorance.

[Big Ice Cup]

Now, the farmers, the soybean farmers, the beef farmers.

[Deontay Kyle]

Huh?

[Big Ice Cup]

We're gonna see y' all in some food in some food pantries, ain't we? Wait. Make sure you wear that MAGA hat to the food pantry. Because what's gonna happen when you can't operate the farm no more because you ain't got nowhere to sell the soybean? Cause Trump took that and sent that over down south. Sent that far south. When you can't get off this cattle, they gonna send that far south or you just gonna have to start busting that shit down with your neighbors. No profit or minimal profit. This your king. I want to shout out to all.

[Deontay Kyle]

The churches and all the organizations that are out here providing food for the US Citizens who are looking at this from a communal standpoint. What's the pastor name? We got the phone. Jamal Bryant.

[Big Ice Cup]

I believe this is also the same pastor that spearheaded the target boycotts.

[Deontay Kyle]

We'll get back to Reverend Pastor Jamal Bryant in a minute. But shout out to Pastor Jamal Bryant for saying, forfeit the tides and make sure we taking care of these, these hungry people. That's.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's church. That's the, that's the way of the Lord. You hear me? But shout out to Black Panther parties.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to all the organizations, the grassroots organizations who are involved in food banks.

[Big Ice Cup]

Shout out everybody who's doing mutual aid.

[Deontay Kyle]

And funding money, including, including your boys, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

And shout out to everybody that is.

[Deontay Kyle]

Utilizing their resources to make sure people aren't going hungry. Because as we record, this is it, it is November 1st and we already know that the only state that is continuing SNAP benefits is Virginia. The mayor of Atlanta has said he's putting a pause to any evictions or. What is it? I think it's water shut off, water shut offs until January 2026. I believe that only is for people in public housing.

[Big Ice Cup]

Why? Why, even if you can't afford it yourself, do you have such a problem with people getting basic welfare? The stigmatizing of welfare? It's just your well being. It's just your basic needs. One of the country. Country with the most material wealth in the west, we have the most material wealth and we do nothing to provide for our citizens. No free health care, no free education, no food benefits. AI running rampant AI killing jobs. 300 black women lose jobs and about 350,000 white men gain jobs. And the system of racism and white supremacy will starve you. And while you're starving, you'll point the finger at black people and say, ha.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ha.

[Big Ice Cup]

Look how deluded this system has you. Look how delusional you are. And these are the same people that would call themselves Christians, these white nationalists, these white Christian nationalists. They would sit here and talk about the Bible all day. They'll talk about God, family, country, while they starve the people in their country. And, and, and doubly will starve their own family to make a point. What kind of God y' all serving? This bootstrap mentality keeps you enslaved mentally. These corporations, they get welfare all the time. When they take a gamble, they get bailed out with your tax dollars. Police, they rough up a citizen. Citizen file a civil suit. That don't come out the police budget, that come out your taxpaying dollars. Tax dollars. So let's stop calling it a bailout and making it seem like the government is bailing out. No, it's you and me bailing them out. Our tax dollars bail out corporations and they evade all responsibility for their actions. Multimillionaire, multi billionaire corporations can commit crimes, can poison communities, poison water supply, poison the air. The only thing they receive is a fine. The fine is paid for with your tax dollars. Government bailout Israel, uprooting people from their homes, bombing children, all funded with your tax dollars. $20 million to Argentina funded with. You got it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Your tax dollars.

[Big Ice Cup]

Man. 10 months ain't been number 10 months wreaking havoc on you folks, ain't it?

[Deontay Kyle]

Goddamn Trump.

[Big Ice Cup]

This is why it's important for us.

[Deontay Kyle]

To be boycotting these corporations. These corporations use our money to bail themselves out. Corporations like Walmart, significant amount of their employees on snap.

[Big Ice Cup]

Companies like Amazon, significant amount of their.

[Deontay Kyle]

Employees receiving SNAP benefits.

[Big Ice Cup]

Doordash delivering a million free meals guarantee you a significant amount of doordashers have SNAP benefits. It's not just a handout. But y' all don't see a problem with handouts when we hand out money to other countries as long as those countries have a white face on them. Y' all don't see a problem when we hand out money to corporations as long as that corporation has a white face on it and you continually cut yourself out from any benefits that this country should be giving you. This country should be providing us with free health care. This country should be providing people with SNAP benefits on gp. We should be eating. Kids should have free food in a schools, education should be free. And you let them privatize everything because you don't want black people to benefit from it. Because if black people benefit, then it diminishes the value that you have put in white supremacy. You don't seem so supreme anymore. And the reality is you're not supreme. You just as in much need. All these obstacles that you don't have to jump over. All these hurdles you don't have to overcome. You starting out on third base and black people are passing you by and sliding in the home safe. And the black people that can't make it to first base, you on third base pointing and laughing and you ain't move nowhere. And then you look up and you back on second base. How the fuck I end up here? Oh shit, it must be these Mexicans stealing our jobs. I'm on. Damn, I'm back on first base. It must be because these black people are getting ebt.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh shit.

[Big Ice Cup]

What you mean I'm out? It can't be trump. You let them just steal the money right out your pocket. Steal the benefits right out your pocket. Because you don't want nobody that don't.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look like you to have nothing.

[Big Ice Cup]

So you dress up and go online in blackface. You dress up and you make AI videos about black women being welfare queens. About black women starving because or complaining and crying because their EBT card not working.

[Deontay Kyle]

Guess what?

[Big Ice Cup]

Your EBT card not working either. Every time I see an EBT a snap fraud scam going on, it's white faces on that. Yet you don't see no issue with it when it's you.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, I'm not no welfare queen. They told me that black people were welfare queens.

[Big Ice Cup]

This ain't the 1970s, baby. This ain't the 1980s. This ain't peak crack epidemic. Black people out here thriving. You hate it. Cause that mean everything they told you was a lie. And instead of you accepting that you've been lied to, you've been duped, you've been hoodwinked, you've been bat boozled, you've been led astray, you double down on your bullshit and you got this nigga taking food out your mouth, your stomach touching your back, your ribs showing. You still pointing your finger at black people. You still pointing your finger at Hispanics, you still pointing your finger at other people of color. And these are the only people that include you in their plans for a more progressive America. I've never heard a candidate of color that wants progression in America exclude white people. I always hear white people that want to progress. White people exclude everybody that isn't white. That's a problem with y'.

[Deontay Kyle]

All.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's a you problem. And you don't see how much more that system harms you than.

[Deontay Kyle]

It helps you.

[Big Ice Cup]

It helps your ego, help you feel better about yourself. Because you get to believe in a lie. And a lie is reinforced by corporate dollars. And corporate dollars are taking food directly out your mouth. Them corporate dollars and them corporations is going to come and seize that motherfucking farm because not only did they send your exports out of the country, but they. They. But they kidnapping your workers.

[Deontay Kyle]

Boo hoo.

[Big Ice Cup]

Sad story. White American dad story. Whoa. It's gonna get nasty out there. That little bread. Little bread line in Nebraska ain't gonna be no hoe is. It Gonna be a lot of grain out that motherfucker. Niggas out there gonna be eating a lot of corn. They're gonna be eating a lot of spuds in Idaho. Y' all gonna have a lot of soybean out there in Wyoming. You have a lot of cattle out there in South Dakota, huh? Too much. Too much beef, you start giving it away. Can't sell it. Then J.D. vance, his company, gonna come buy your shit. Ain't that. Ain't that cold. Ain't that cold. Vice president got a company that buy seas. Farmland ain't that cold. Thanks for your vote and your land. Hey, I'm gonna tell you something about black people. We gonna be all right. This has been the state of the country for us forever. We tried to tell you niggas, why you steadily pointing the finger at you? This nigga in your back pocket running your dry. Running your motherfucking pockets. I'm talking about patting your shit down, got you turned upside down, shaking the coins out. You still pointing and laughing at other people. It's gonna be bad when it's you. And that time is coming. That time is coming because one thing they also know is that you ain't gonna participate in no boycott. White people ain't think we was talking to them when we said boycott.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Big Ice Cup]

Biggest hyper consumer. Hyper consumer. How much consumption you gonna be able to do when you gotta pay for them groceries, too? Groceries high as hell. It's the cult of whiteness.

[Caller from North Philly]

It's cult.

[Big Ice Cup]

It's not a real thing.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's cult.

[Big Ice Cup]

And you see the people benefiting from the cult. They look like you, but so do the victims. You only focus on the victims that don't look like you. You forget that it's you, too. Black people gonna be all right. We know how to take care of each other. Shit, I guess. Hey, if anything, are you new grandmas? Dinner at your house. Black girl, black man, black woman, successful in corporate. Dinner at your house. It's gonna be a time we're gonna have to look out for our folks. We're gonna have to be able to look out for each other. This is where black farmers gonna come in clutch. Bust that whole cow down. We'll buy it.

[Big Cat]

The butcher coming. Nigga, I'm sorry.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Big Cat]

That was set up so perfect.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was nice.

[Big Ice Cup]

That was nice.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was nice.

[Big Ice Cup]

I with how you did that.

[Deontay Kyle]

The Butcher coming is crazy. Have fun. Have fun. We're gonna be all right, y'. All. We already looking out for each other. Shout out to the mayor of Chicago. What's that brother's name?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Giving. Giving nice hail, ain't he?

[Deontay Kyle]

He ain't playing, bro. Mayor Brandon Johnson. Yeah, but I'm Brandon's.

[Big Ice Cup]

They don't play, boy. Shout out in Baltimore. His name Brandon, too, ain't.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I ain't never known a Brandon who couldn't fight.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, look, first fight I ever definitively lost was to a named Brandon.

[Big Ice Cup]

That's what I'm saying, son.

[Deontay Kyle]

Brandon put them beats on me.

[Big Cat]

Somebody named Brandon, they can fight.

[Big Ice Cup]

Hey, you want your son to stand for something?

[Deontay Kyle]

Name N. Brandon.

[Big Ice Cup]

You know what I'm saying? They go hard.

[Deontay Kyle]

They don't fuck around.

[Big Ice Cup]

Mayor Brandon Johnson called for a general strike.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let me tell you something about striking, man. Cause y' all don't be seeing the benefit in things. Because y' all don't understand that you have power.

[Big Ice Cup]

Every black person and every person of.

[Deontay Kyle]

Color stop going to work.

[Big Ice Cup]

This whole goes down, ain't gonna be no restaurants. Ain't gonna be no deliveries. They already getting rid of their farm hands. So it ain't gonna be no harvest. Who gonna work the family dollar? Who working at Walmart? Who working in them warehouses? Black people and other people of color overwhelmingly doing these jobs. No more nanny. You gotta take care of your own baby now. No more hotel concierge. No more doorman. No more Uber driver. If black people and other people of color. Fuck these. Fuck these folks. I'm just keeping a beam. Fuck these white people. If we was to band together and do a general strike, this whole shit go down. They always telling us to go back to where we come from. Go back to your country. You want to get here, do it the right way. How about you just Stop working for a little bit. 30 days. I guarantee you this shit fall to his fucking knees and they begging for.

[Deontay Kyle]

Us to come back.

[Big Ice Cup]

Guaranteed. Guaranteed. We don't got to go nowhere. If everybody stopped paying rent, how they gonna get the rent? And you think they got enough people to. To evict everybody? They don't. They don't. Invitation homes ain't got enough people to evict everybody. The black cops stop going to work. Oh, shit. Ain't no police in Atlanta. If black police stop going away, ain't no fucking police in Atlanta. Ain't no police in Baltimore. Y' all have to take this shit seriously, bro. The time is now. And we could do mutual aid, but we can't live in fear. You don't understand. You don't understand the power. You think about always what you have to lose. You could boycott with your dollar. Don't buy a fucking toy from Walmart. Find a black owned business that sell toys. Find a black owned business that sell board games. We don't gotta go all out. This isn't a mark of you being a good parent. Cause you buy gifts. Parenting is about presents, not. Parenting is about presents, not presents. Fuck Christmas. Fuck Santa Claus, nigga. Tell your kids you want to give your kids a gift. Give them a gift of information. Tell them what's going on in the world. It's the world they growing up in. It's time to break down the fantasy. Because when you can't afford to give them food, what you gonna tell them then? You have to put your motherfucking pride to the side. Now it time to be prideful. Cause these niggas that's in government that's cutting off your benefits. Don't give a fuck about your pride. Don't give a fuck how you feel about yourself. Don't give a fuck if you die. You worried about pride? The time for keeping up with these Joneses is over. Kill the Joneses. Kill the Joneses. Cause I'm going to tell you, if ain't nobody got nothing, you out here shining and stunting. Niggas is coming for your neck. Melt that motherfucking chain down. Try to get. Get as much as you can for them fake ass diamonds and start looking out for the community. And fuck these celebrities. We talking about doctors, we talking about lawyers, we talking about accountants. We talking about entrepreneurs and business owners. It's time to start looking out for the community. Because when this shit bounce back, they come to you first. If you're a plumber, if you an electrician, you a h Vac. If somebody got something going on with they house, you need to go look out for them people ain't got the money right now. And for those of us that's doing better in life than we always have, we put our money up. I'm putting my money up. Making sure niggas eat, make sure niggas is good. Now is the time. Now is the time. If you was to unsubscribe from the Patreon because $8 is too much a month, I ain't tripping on that. If you don't buy no merch, I ain't tripping on that. We're gonna be right here advocating for you every week, week after week, organizing week after week. You don't lose nothing by starving a corporation. But fuck these corporations. Because the corporations gave a fuck about you. Then their employees wouldn't qualify for snap. How the fuck you got all these billions of dollars and you got people worrying about where their next meal coming from? And they work for you. Fuck them people. We doing Christmas a little different this year. We doing Thanksgiving a little different this year. Ain't about having a feast. It's about the time we're going to spend together and how we gonna band together and get through hard times. That's what matter. That's what family is about. Ain't no Black Friday, ain't no Cyber Monday, Fuck all that shit. Because they dependent on your dollar in the fourth quarter. That's what they depend on in the fourth quarter. They don't do no hiring, but they doing a whole lot of goddamn firing. And they depending on the sales tax, government depending on your sales tax for you to spend this fucking bread. These corporations depending on you to ball the fuck out so you can seem like you're a good parent and then wait on income taxes, come back around. No, fuck that. We ain't buying shit. Within reason. If you want. If you got to buy your kids a gift, give them one thing, A piece. Let them know what's going on in the country and spend time together this winter. And I suggest all counties and all major cities should follow suit from the mayor of Atlanta and the mayor of Chicago. Encourage your citizens to strike these corporations and make sure that these companies are not evicting your citizens in the time of need. Shit is desperate right now. And what's the first thing I want to do? What's the first thing they going to report on crime statistics? They're not going to tell you what the precursor to crime is, though. They're going to try to Use it to reinforce stereotypes. Don't be taking shit from people that look like you. When you can take the shit out the mouth of the people that starving, you don't go for the easy target. Go for the strategic target. Target these fucking corporations. Keep your dollars out of their goddamn pockets. We done splurged. We done splurged time and time again. Ain't no good Christmas ever stopped you from having no fucking problems. That's that instant gratification shit. That shit feel good in the moment when you do it, but when it first come back around and you ain't got nothing left after rent, you already spending your income tax dollars. They keeping us on a fucking cycle. It's time to break the cycle. They keeping you on a hamster real. It's time to hop off. We'll be right back after this commercial break.

[Deontay Kyle]

We back. All right. 657234 eggs at 657-234-3447 for all your voicemails. We're gonna get into these voicemails now but also adviceiontekyle.com that's adviceeontekyle.com we got a couple of advice submissions today too. Let's get into these voicemails.

[Ms. Zoe]

Greetings Mr. Kyle and Mr. K. My name is Ms. Zoe and I'm a recent college graduate of the illustrious Fayetteville State University Bronco pride.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm a legacy. Oh shit. That's where my daddy went. Word shout out to Fayetteville State Broncos.

[Ms. Zoe]

Third generation graduate and a descendant of the school. I'm a legacy third generation graduate and a descendant of the school's founding families. So I want to commend you and thank you both for doing the knowledge and creating a space of equitable education to elevate us as a people. For listeners who are in the fable Steadman and clan area, if your child is in need of assistance with their education to reach out to Desire Destiny learning center we offer one on one tutoring services and for K12 drop in care our goal is to expand and provide accessible remediation and standing in that gap that has been engineered for keeping the future generations destitute. With the recent government cuts we want to continue our operations so if any listeners bout it we want to accept donations on the cash app desiredestiny. Check us out on Facebook again at Desire Destiny Learning center and thank you both. Have a blessed day.

[Big Cat]

Okay, Charlie came calling, put a plug in. Yeah yeah, yeah. Had to get the advertisement in.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Get that shot for chest. That's a Great ad.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Desire. Destiny Academy. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Go Broncos.

[Chris]

Hey, what's up, Beyonce, Kyle and Big Ice Cup. My name is Chris. I am 25, from Oklahoma, father of three newlyweds, and I'm a big fan of y' all podcast. I just finished episode 86, so I know I'm right behind. Actually, I think I'm moving backwards because earlier I watched Sexy Solon Black American Princess episode, and Now I'm on 86. So I think I started at the top and I'm moving backwards. But anyway, I'm a huge fan, and, yeah, I drive a truck. And I just want to say I've been following you ever since, you know, you were rapping. My question is I make music on the side, and I don't know, I just think it's kind of dumb and it's frustrating, you know? And I have a trade, and I like my trade, but I also, I just. I like to make music. I know I'm getting old, though. I'm grown. I got three kids. I don't know. Well, what advice would you have for somebody who is kind of at this split crossroads? Do I just give that up because of, you know, age and kids and that type of deal and just follow a trade, or is there room for both? Is there room for both? I guess the question. It might be a stupid question. I don't know. If it is, let me know. Anyway, love y'. All. Y' all have a good episode.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right. We appreciate you, brother. There are no dumb questions over here at the Grizzly Ass Podcast. If there was a dumb question, we would probably let you know. To be honest, more than likely I'mma say this. I, I, you know, we're pretty harsh on rappers because, you know, the thing is, is like going for a dream with no foundation, you know, we're not Nepo babies, bro. If you getting it out the mud and, like, you've been pushing your music for a year, two years, and you ain't seen no forward progress, it's time to get serious about life. You know what I'm saying? But at the same time, we don't discourage people from doing the thing that brings them joy. So, like, there's plenty of women out here who are seamstresses, and they're not seamstress by trade, but they just enjoy sewing clothes, and they may not be in pursuit of, you know, being a fashion designer or anything. They just enjoy the process of it, and it brings them fulfillment. You don't have to monetize all of your talents. Sometimes you just need to have things that bring you peace. Maybe making music is your form of meditation. Maybe making music is the thing that brings you joy. And you never give up the things that bring you joy. The thing is, is that you have to reassess what it is you want out of this talent, what it is you want out of this creative endeavor. If the goal is to be recognized nationally and become a superstar, you have to also factor in the probability and how much that probability dwindles the older you get. But also, like, if you just enjoy making music, bruh, just make music because.

[Big Ice Cup]

You enjoy it and find a way.

[Deontay Kyle]

To record it and do it yourself. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't have to be a thing that you pursue as a career. You obviously have some stability. You got your three kids, and as somebody who has ventured into the media space, while you may have a lot more opportunities and things like that, you do have to be mindful of your time. This should have pulled a lot of.

[Big Ice Cup]

Time up out of you.

[Deontay Kyle]

So I think that in this space that you in now, man, if you enjoy making music, just make music for yourself. Make music for your friends, make music for the audience that you already have and the people that enjoy it. But don't worry about blowing up, you know, you should never give up on something that brings you joy. I think the pursuit of a career in it is where what we talking about also too, just for people, that's just like, you know, I'm the best rapper alive. And your shit ass, like, we just gotta let you know that you ain't the best rapper alive. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But we're never going to be proponents of telling people to deviate away from things that bring them joy, especially creative endeavors. I think that we need to be a little bit more realistic about creating foundations for ourselves as people, because we got one life to live. And you don't want to spend 15 years of your life chasing something that literally has no ROI and then be trying to get your skill set together in your mid-30s, because that by that time, you ain't gonna find no stability until you 40. You know, it's just not the move, you know, we're just not in the business of wasting time. Don't waste no time, you know what I'm saying? But continue on chasing the thing that makes you happy. Man, you. We need happiness and we need outlets that bring us fulfillment out here. What you got from Big Cat? Oh, you hit the.

[Big Cat]

You hit the nail on the head right there, baby. I ain't got too much to say. Yeah, that's it.

[Caller from North Philly]

Is it on? Is I'm on here? Hey, y', all, it's your girl calling from North Philly. First off, I want to say thank you. Thank you, thank you so, so much for doing this podcast. It's like the actual best podcast after True Crime, because I'm a true crime girly. But the best, like, love it, Black power, all here for it. I just wanted some advice on a little situation I'm dealing with first because it's a two parter. First I want to talk about how do you handle family members that just constantly want to use you, use you.

[Chris]

Use you, use you, all up until.

[Caller from North Philly]

You used all that. And then when it's time for them to, you know, return a favor, they don't do you. They don't do what they said they're going to do. Secondly, my daughter's father, he's dealing with a lot of stuff or whatever. He got some adversities going on and things, and he's just not helping out as much as I feel like he could, seeing as how he works all week and he gets our daughter on the weekends when I'm at work. And it's just like you at work all week getting money and here come the weekend. Why you're not breaking me off? Like, I really don't want to put him on child support because I don't need the people in our business because they gonna be in my business too. I don't need that. So, yeah. Thanks again for the podcast. Hopefully you guys get to my message. If not, thanks for your time and I love y' all so much. Okay, bye.

[Deontay Kyle]

Appreciate you shouting from North Philly. A lot of love from North Philly. Good Philly. Here's the thing. You can't pour from an empty cup, so you can't let people run you dry. And also you can't feel guilty about it either because they don't feel guilty when you need them and they don't show up. But people are always so enthusiastic when it comes time to ask for things. Never enthusiastic about giving. This is a place where you gonna have to learn how to set boundaries with people and you have to learn how to understand like, your survival is paramount, right? If you don't have anything for yourself, you not only are gonna not have anything to give others, but you also leave yourself in a situation where when you do reach out to others, it's not available to you. And now you assed out. You know what I mean? So and then you get into this rock to Peter, the PayPal behavior, and then get all bad. As far as your baby dad, you work all week.

[Big Cat]

He get the baby on the weekend. He ain't breaking you off nothing.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, I come up out that bread, man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Come up with something.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gotta come up on something.

[Big Cat]

You gotta come up off something.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? You know? You know, shout out to him for being present. Yeah, yeah, no, shout out to him. But, you know, I think that is more of a candid conversation y' all need to have with one another about, you know, what y' all needs are financially and things like that. If you don't want them people in your business, then y' all gonna have to just find a healthy communication and a healthy, like, situation that will benefit both of y' all when it comes to your daughter. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't say that. You know, one person shouldn't benefit more than the other. I understand that. The Monday through Friday, though, the bulk of the responsibility is on you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And with that being said, you know, you gotta chip in. You know you gotta chip in, man. Throw a little something do knowledge, my nigga. You gotta chip in. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

Baby need food.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

Baby gotta eat. Baby gotta eat. Baby need clothes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Baby growing. Baby always gonna grow. You know, being daddy two days out the week.

[Big Ice Cup]

Nah, it's a good deal.

[Deontay Kyle]

Good deal.

[Big Ice Cup]

If you want to keep that deal.

[Deontay Kyle]

Going, that's all you need to pitch in, my brother.

[Big Cat]

Now you got a good deal.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm out here being a father seven days a week, man. What, twice a week?

[Big Cat]

My what, 24 7?

[Deontay Kyle]

Opportunity not to put the bread up. Emory loves spending my goddamn money. Tell me that shit, too.

[Big Cat]

You got money?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, we got two.

[Big Cat]

Oh, oh, oh. Weekend's catching up to him.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I did it again.

[Big Cat]

Let's get to it, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right. Advice need asap. My husband don't do the knowledge.

[Big Cat]

Oh, God damn it.

[Deontay Kyle]

God damn it.

[Big Cat]

Don't do the knowledge.

[Deontay Kyle]

God damn it. Okay. Hey, cousins. I love y' all real bad.

[Big Cat]

When in doubt, big headed out, baby, let's get serious.

[Deontay Kyle]

I just celebrated my one year anniversary, and I feared the lack of mental stimulation might become a real problem. Listening to y' all has been so refreshing. See, we are here running relationship.

[Big Cat]

We doing the knowledge. And they want their husband to do the knowledge. Just go to work and come home.

[Big Ice Cup]

Watch tv, baby, crack them a cold Beer.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Tunnel sports in cnn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Go home, crack him a cold beer, run some parties. He want to talk to her about the parlays. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She want to talk about the socioeconomic climate, you know what I'm saying? The political state of the world.

[Big Ice Cup]

This don't want to do knowledge.

[Big Cat]

She want him to ask him what.

[Big Ice Cup]

The mathematics is every day. First of all, to be a husband and to. Come on, ask your wife was today's mathematics.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't going to lie. As. As if your old lady was to hit you with today's math matter. It's kind of ill. It's ill. It's kind of ill. You know what I'm saying? Like, Shorty got her mind.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, she got her mind, right? Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

She ready.

[Deontay Kyle]

She. She run that J electronica album.

[Big Cat]

She be listening to most death.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Okay, hold on. I gotta pause this. I. Her talking about her husband got me thinking about this gift we got at Jasmine Farley. So I didn't get walked up to me with the treasure chest. Oh. It says, deontay, the man who creates conversations. May everyone remember your presence. You remember the world. That thought can still be art. Hey, Summer from nature's rehab, shout out to Summer.

[Big Cat]

Nature's Rehab.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, she gave me some cigars, a felt pen, beer oil. I don't got no goddamn beard. Oh, no, it's just baby oil. Oh, trying to get slippery.

[Big Cat]

Give a treasure chest.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gave me a goddamn a bottle of Black Eden.

[Big Cat]

Hey.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bk, you want to try some of this on? Let's do this, huh?

[Big Cat]

It man try to get you a treasure chest. Yeah, Black Eden.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know if this going to get us demonetized or not, but blur. Blur it out, Tristan.

[Big Cat]

I just heard it out. Shorty want her husband to do the knowledge. We ain't here taking shots.

[Deontay Kyle]

Made me do the knowledge.

[Big Cat]

We taking shots at a burb.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, good burb. Tristan just put a crazy blur on the screen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Come on down to the Kumbaye coffee shop, get you some of that bourbon.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, we're gonna take a look.

[Big Cat]

We got shots of this bourbon.

[Deontay Kyle]

Throw this bourbon back real quick.

[Big Cat]

I feel like a cowboy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, man, shout out to. Man, shout out to the cousins, bro. Yeah, cousin's always looking out, showing us love, bro. And that cologne smell gives a mother.

[Big Cat]

Cologne smells immaculate.

[Deontay Kyle]

To a great podcast.

[Big Cat]

More life. More life.

[Big Ice Cup]

Oof.

[Deontay Kyle]

Damn. I feel like Kevin Costner.

[Big Cat]

I want to spit some tobacco.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gonna look a shot, nigga.

[Big Ice Cup]

Where's my horse?

[Deontay Kyle]

I feel like. What's that nigga?

[Big Ice Cup]

Nine years out there.

[Deontay Kyle]

Arthur Morgan. You're a good man, Arthur Morgan. Oh, all right, let's get into it. Shout out my playing Ghost of Yote right now. And shout out to all you that won't play it because the girl is the main character. She got all these weapons shopping and.

[Big Cat]

They won't play because it's a girl.

[Deontay Kyle]

I've heard. I've heard murmurings is lame. Yeah. Now if you could her, they'll play her. Yeah. Is losers. All right, all right. Asap. Advice needed. Asap. My husband don't do the knowledge. Hey, cousins. Love y' all real bad. Just celebrated one year of my wedding, my one year wedding anniversary. And I fear the lack of mental stimulation might become a real problem. Listening y' all has been so refreshing because we. Because I don't have in depth dialogue like this with my husband. And I'm starting to realize quite a few things that might be red flags that I tried to paint green. Mainly his parenting style. We both work full time, so 80% of the time we get together as family. My husband is high because he is the J. Every morning, every evening before we do everything. Okay, you gotta put down the weed.

[Big Ice Cup]

You gotta put down the weed now.

[Big Cat]

You gotta do it every time you get together with the fam. What the hell?

[Deontay Kyle]

Damn. So high ass up and do something with yourself, nigga.

[Big Ice Cup]

High ass nigga just high. Just hide all the time.

[Deontay Kyle]

Play this for him.

[Big Ice Cup]

Put down the weed. Pick up a book. Pick up a board game. Yeah, man, pick up a glove. Go play catch with your son.

[Deontay Kyle]

Go play football.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Wrong with this high ass. I can't stand that smoke weed for real. Now that I don't really smoke weed. Yeah, it's not the casual weed smile. You more casual. You know what I'm saying? You casually hit the weed.

[Big Ice Cup]

I mean, if I get a little.

[Deontay Kyle]

Too drunk, I might hit the weed. Right?

[Big Ice Cup]

You know what I'm saying? Not every day.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not every day.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't starting my day off high.

[Big Cat]

No, I can't do that.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's not good cognitive function.

[Big Ice Cup]

I need to know what's going on.

[Deontay Kyle]

In the real world. I need to be in touch with reality.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, breath be sninging that part.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, on fact we talk about. I'm starting to discover a lot of. You got bad breath.

[Big Cat]

Bad breath.

[Deontay Kyle]

I've been having a lot of.

[Big Ice Cup]

I've been having a lot of conversations.

[Deontay Kyle]

With within earshot of each other. A lot of. You know what I'm saying? A lot of face to face convos with niggas in loud rooms. Yeah, a lot of you niggas got bad breath man.

[Big Cat]

And then the dragon.

[Deontay Kyle]

How do you out here got that Cisco on your mouth.

[Big Cat]

Cisco on your mouth is crazy vernacular. Cisco on your mouth. Wow.

[Deontay Kyle]

Wow. I'm a bonus mom to his eight year old son, his stepmother.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

To his eight year old son who we raised together. Full time biological mom pops in every blue moon. So we're full time. All hands on deck. My husband has unfortunately allowed him to be an iPad kid. So much screen time. He's an intelligent kid but I can see how the screen time is affecting him socially and developmentally. He gets off the iPad and he lets him play the game for hours. I mentioned it. Tried to implement schedule routine and a change will happen for maybe two, three days. Then back to the bullshit. My husband also doesn't communicate with his son enough for me. They don't really have a relationship for real. He's basically supervising and calling him as opposed to the daily raising. Him son is actively in sports but outside of his weekly basketball games he don't take him anywhere or do any actual activities with him. My husband don't meet his father, didn't meet his father until he was about 21. They are working on building relationship. Also we have a two year age gap. I'm older than him so I do give him grace. However, I have concerns because if or when we have kids, it's a lot I want to expose my children to. I will teach them our history and be more active in engaging with them. Before him I organized community initiative, hosted panels, volunteered important my community because philanthropy for my people is highly important to me. We both make six figures. Ain't no way we shouldn't be on the land sponsoring folks to go to trade schools. Investing in business is something. My husband is a proud black man. But sometimes I feel like he don't think beyond his own personal experience.

[Big Ice Cup]

Sports betting and day to day living.

[Deontay Kyle]

I told you.

[Big Ice Cup]

Hey, didn't I tell you?

[Big Cat]

There it is.

[Big Ice Cup]

I didn't even read this shit. I'm telling you we don't vet these. I knew that nigga was putting in parlays.

[Big Cat]

Putting that in parlay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah boy.

[Big Ice Cup]

Addicted. Trying to keep this short and sweet.

[Deontay Kyle]

Can marriage survive without mental stimulation, lack of death and aligning parents inside styles. Side note, I'm actively working with my therapist on why I ignore the red flags in the first place. But I value in Cat's opinions. He's a good man on all other things. He just don't do the knowledge Listen, man, I'm gonna let Big Cat take this thing. We're gonna ISO ISO the mic.

[Big Cat]

Well, here's my. Here's my. Put on it. Well, here's my. My advice for this. I just want to say your husband is doing his thing, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

He's a provider.

[Big Cat]

He doing his thing. Maybe he feel like he don't have to. He got you. He feel like he ain't got to do nothing because he got you. And I think you need to have a sit down with your husband and talk and let him know how you're feeling. Same way you came to us. You need to go to him because we ain't in the house. We don't see every day the day to day routine. We don't know what you're doing. You could be getting on this goddamn nerves. We don't know. Maybe he don't want to talk to you. We don't know.

[Deontay Kyle]

Tristan, blur the camera.

[Big Cat]

But yeah, honestly, man, if your husband, if he ain't that type of dude, he ain't gonna be that type of dude. If he ain't gonna do the knowledge, he ain't gonna want to do the knowledge.

[Big Ice Cup]

Well, so there. There needs to be.

[Deontay Kyle]

So the thing is, people are capable of great change. They both earn six figures, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

I mean, he's a smart guy. He's a smart guy.

[Deontay Kyle]

He just want to hit the weed and chill. I also don't know what they age gap is, right?

[Big Ice Cup]

But I mean, I know the age.

[Deontay Kyle]

Gap, but I don't know the age.

[Big Cat]

You don't know the ages.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, so she came into this more community for more due to knowledge, for you know what I mean? So this isn't a barrier, a hard barrier of entry. He looked like he just kind of surviving day to day.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he just chilling.

[Deontay Kyle]

He chilling. But I will say this. You have to be vocal and, you know, not only vocal, but you're gonna have to be a little bit.

[Big Ice Cup]

Proactive.

[Deontay Kyle]

About the things you want to do. Like, you have to plan some things to get him engaged in things. And also, like, you know, let's, you.

[Big Ice Cup]

Know, just, you know, maybe, maybe today we ain't hitting the weed and we.

[Deontay Kyle]

Going doing this instead. You know what I'm saying? You find avenues that differentiate his mental stimulation, but also your partner can't fulfill.

[Big Ice Cup]

Everything that you need.

[Deontay Kyle]

So if you are into community activism, these are things that you might have.

[Big Ice Cup]

To do on your own. You might have to seek out groups.

[Deontay Kyle]

And organizations that you can be involved with on your own. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Cause that's your thing. That's what bring you happiness.

[Big Ice Cup]

And we don't want to dilute his.

[Deontay Kyle]

Own personal experience and the things that bring him joy. Now, I will say this. Sports betting, it's not.

[Big Ice Cup]

It.

[Deontay Kyle]

No. No bueno. No. All that screen time for that child. No bueno. There should be some aspect of, you.

[Big Ice Cup]

Know, once, twice, maybe three times a month.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Him going and doing stuff with his child, even without.

[Big Ice Cup]

You got to.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

That's his child.

[Big Ice Cup]

It's his child.

[Big Cat]

It's his child.

[Deontay Kyle]

But I think. I think that, you know, the pressures of life and the routine of life can put you in a lull and can put you in a space where you just kind of living cyclically.

[Big Ice Cup]

Cyclically.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cyclically. Cyclically. Cyclically. It'll put you in a space in life where you leave living very cyclically. That's a tough word for Elmo.

[Big Cat]

Got a name on y'.

[Deontay Kyle]

All.

[Big Cat]

And also, you got to find out, what is his interest? What is he like besides sports betting? Like, what brings him joy?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What's his things that he.

[Big Ice Cup]

What is he.

[Deontay Kyle]

Is it. What is he numbing with the weed?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

What is he hiding? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What is he running from?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's something. It's something that's trying to keep him high. Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

You know, and once you find the.

[Deontay Kyle]

Answer to that, I think. I think that this is gonna be. And, you know, before these things become, like, too big of an issue, it doesn't seem like it's an overall, like, grand issue. Maybe get him interested in doing some individual therapy. You know what I'm saying? It ain't like y' all can't afford it.

[Big Cat]

Do y' all work out together? Do y' all go to the gym together?

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Maybe y' all find. And also, too, it's like, you know, watch how you're approaching bringing these conversations forth, because you don't want to get to a point where the nigga feel like you nagging or you just don't accept him for who he is. I mean, the thing is, it's just. Y' all one year marriage anniversary. You knew who this nigga was. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You already knew who he was before you married him.

[Deontay Kyle]

And you. You. You know, if.

[Big Ice Cup]

If you married.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you married him or got with him because of what you thought he could be, potentially, you did yourself a disservice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because we shouldn't be marrying for potential. But I think that y' all still have so much Time and room to grow together. You know what I mean? Like, he's not done growing. He's not. But he's not responsible for his growth at your pace. Okay. It's not his responsibility to keep up what your vision for his growth is. It's his responsibility to have a vision for himself. And also, it's your responsibility to approach these situations with clear, transparent communication and not just seeking advice all around. And, like, keep your friends out your marriage, especially your unmarried friends, especially your friends ain't never been married or have a prospect. Have been married. Keep your folks out your business and. And deal with him on a basis of communication and love and problem solving and not in a space of nagging and berating and putting y'.

[Big Ice Cup]

All.

[Deontay Kyle]

Y'. All. Everybody else in y'. All shit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

While he's unaware of your feelings.

[Big Ice Cup]

Feelings.

[Deontay Kyle]

You need to make him aware of your feelings.

[Big Cat]

And don't hope you're not.

[Deontay Kyle]

If.

[Big Cat]

If y' all watched. I hope y' all watch the podcast together. And that's number one. Number two, I hope you're not comparing. Don't ever compare him to us.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Cause I'm. I can be an ain't, too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But no, I'm in the. In the space of. You need to be more like them. You need to.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Big Cat]

I hope you're not doing that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Big Cat]

Please, don't do that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't do that. Nah. Yeah. Cause everybody ain't. You know, everybody ain't us, and we have flaws and shit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yo, that's what I'm saying. You could be in a fucking relationship with me. You'll find a problem. Yeah. Trust me.

[Big Cat]

Got them big cats.

[Big Ice Cup]

God damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. You gonna find a problem with everybody. Nobody gonna check all the boxes. And, you know, you gotta also be mindful that you might not check all his boxes either.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But this is marriage. Y' all growing together.

[Deontay Kyle]

Y' all grow together. Y'.

[Big Ice Cup]

All.

[Deontay Kyle]

The growth is gonna require clear and constant communication. Okay.

[Big Cat]

If he likes weed, just tell him to put it down.

[Big Ice Cup]

You know, you can end the night.

[Deontay Kyle]

You can go to sleep.

[Big Ice Cup]

Go to sleep high. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

Let's not wake up high.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't wake up high.

[Big Ice Cup]

You know what I mean? And y' all should do, like, you know, monthly report cards with one another.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big Ice Cup]

You know, check in with one another. And, you know, you need to be.

[Deontay Kyle]

Open and receptive to the fact that.

[Big Ice Cup]

Maybe you do things he don't like and he just keeping it cool. And maybe he just hitting the weed.

[Deontay Kyle]

And sports betting so he don't have.

[Big Ice Cup]

To address the things about you he.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don'T like because you obviously got so many things about him that you don't like. God damn it. I hate when I tell people I'm recording and they just steadily. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Ice Cup]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But shout out to y, y' all going to be all right. Yeah, y' all be all right.

[Big Cat]

Good luck on y' all marriage.

[Deontay Kyle]

Good luck.

[Big Cat]

One year we going to 50.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Going down to the goddamn sunset.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Black and brown. Fatherly advice.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yo, yo, yo.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out big man deontay and the coolest cat. Big ice cup cat. From one of the probably few, but many Latino viewers and listeners. I want to start off with. I love what you stand for and everything y' all preach, especially with staying within the knowledge I'm about to be a first time father to a beautiful Afro Latino little girl. I'm Mexican and my girlfriend is black. I just wanted to ask your point of view of balance on being a good dad. Since I've never had my own, especially with the way things are right now in society. I've been doing my due diligence and knowing more about my roots as well as her mother's. I had to teach my daughter about the oppression and atrocities our people went through. As Mexican and as a black person in America, I feel like mixed babies are a good bridge between black and brown to help us reunite. But I feel both sides have been taught to dislike and separate from each other by the same oppressor. Again, big love to y'. All. Thank y' all again for representing the people. Hey, shout out to our brown brother. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, shit, you just gotta tell her your history. Mexican history, Latino history and black history, black culture. You having Mexican one night, goddamn next night, we having soul food, baby. You know what I mean? That's a good balance. That could be a good, healthy baby.

[Chris]

Be God damn.

[Big Ice Cup]

A lot of rice, a lot of chicken in that diet.

[Deontay Kyle]

Rice and chicken.

[Big Cat]

A lot of rice and chicken in that diet, baby. N. You'll do good though, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

Mac and cheese. Pollo.

[Big Ice Cup]

Mac and cheese.

[Big Cat]

Enchilada with the Mac and cheese in it, baby. Enchilada with the Mac and cheese.

[Deontay Kyle]

Little. Little salad.

[Big Cat]

God damn it. Baby gonna be healthy. Big baby right there. We eating over here, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Big bad baby.

[Big Cat]

She gonna grow up. She gonna be a goddamn Modelo drinking Hennessy Baby.

[Big Ice Cup]

Little Henny Modelo.

[Big Cat]

Henny Modelo, baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

Make sure y' all feeding that baby vegetables, man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Please get the baby some vegetables. Not a lot of starch.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not. We had that little baby over there eating peach cobbler churro.

[Big Cat]

That sound good.

[Deontay Kyle]

Tres leches, Pound cake.

[Big Ice Cup]

Hey, yo. Hey, yo.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right.

[Big Cat]

You gonna be good, though, bro. You gonna be all right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Listen, I'mma say this, man. Fatherhood does not come with a manual. Even though those of us that have relationships with our fathers still experience fatherhood in a different way, you know, we still want to be a little bit more emotionally available for our children. And, you know, I think the thing is, is that you gonna figure out what you made of, man, when that baby come out. For sure you have an anxiety and, you know, a little nervousness around it now. And, you know, that is a. The fact that you're gonna be there, man, is meaning everything.

[Big Cat]

That's natural. That's natural feelings that you are.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, the thing is, is that these feelings that you have are feelings out of care. Yeah. Love and concern, my nigga. What the fuck? The feelings you have in our feelings out of love and care. And I think that you're gonna do good. I would suggest some literature on fatherhood. I would suggest looking at videos from black and brown fathers that are doing it right. But I would also say just take your own approach to it. You know what I'm saying? Nobody gonna love you like you love your baby. And it's gonna change you biologically, and it's gonna change your approach to this, and you're gonna do great. You know what I'm saying? The fact that you're already mindful that you need to be informative and the fact that you are somebody that wants to push for a unity between black and brown people. I mean, your daughter is lucky to have you, bro. You know, I talk a lot of shit about people because of their regressive attitudes towards black people, but we are a very unifying front over here. And we do understand that we all have the same oppressor and that colonization has affected us all. So I ain't gonna Dr. Umar. You. Nah. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna keep it real with you, bro. You gonna be straight. You know what I mean? Like, you gonna be good, bro. The fact that you're already thinking about how to be the best dad makes you gonna be an incredible father. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Give your time some grace, too.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't lose some grace. Don't Lose sight of that. And like big cat said, give yourself some grace, man. You a first time father and also doing it without having a father active in your life yourself. So I would say learn. Learn from the people you don't want to be like. Look to the people you do want to be like. You're going to be just fine, man. Shout out to y'. All. Shout out to the happy couple.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And you know, shout out to the Afro Latina baby.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Good curly haired baby over there.

[Deontay Kyle]

Curly hair, melanated baby. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

Good healthy baby over there.

[Big Ice Cup]

Dia, dia delos negros.

[Big Cat]

All right, son. God damn it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, mariachi trap.

[Big Ice Cup]

Trap, mariachi trap.

[Deontay Kyle]

Marachi. Hey, that go crazy, you know what I'm saying? Wow. That go stupid.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, brother. You know my me amigo.

[Big Cat]

Me amigo.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Try driving a carpentry. What's up, y'?

[Unknown Rapper]

All?

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm 27. Hold on, let me make this. This word's too small for Elmo. 27, married, with a daughter. Decided to get it. Go with the trade. When I actually enjoy carpentry. My dilemma, however, is to pay. I live in Georgia, drive an hour from Lagrange to Atlanta every day for work.

[Big Cat]

What boy? What boy?

[Deontay Kyle]

After taxes and union dues, I bring home $6.30 a week. The pay isn't worth it, but I'm good at what I do and I want to learn the trade. I also think it's worth mentioning that I'm entry level apprentice, so raises will come. But I need the money now. Not only do I have a family to provide for, but I also have goals that need to be funny. And I think traffic driving will help me accomplish both faster. That's not true. I'm just not sure if leaving carpentry to start driving trucks is the best solution. I don't know anyone I could trust to give me sound advice. Listen, it's not a good decision. First of all, you need the money now, and you're talking about taking possibly 10 to 12 week break from earning a paycheck. The truck driver course is six weeks. That doesn't include the time that it takes to plan to get into the course. The amount of time you have to spend in the course, and then the amount of time is going to get you to get a job on load, work the job, then get the first paycheck. We're talking about 10 to 12 weeks with no paycheck. It's not worth it. Listen, 6:30 a week, I would say if you want to be honest, you're going to start, you're going to bring home 750 a week driving trucks. By the time you go through this process and everything, you've probably been started getting seeing a raise. I would explore other fields in this thing, but I also would just say like stay down bro. You know what I'm saying? You always going to need more. That's just the reality of blue collar work. You always going to feel like you, you're not getting enough or you need more or you want more. But this is the thing where you're going to have to think about the compound interest rather than the pivot. Okay? You got a daughter to provide for now. Okay. You, you going to go in pursuit of more money, but you're going to be spending a lot less time.

[Big Ice Cup]

Yep.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? You got to be considerate of that also. Getting a local job ain't going to pay that much. No way. Not right off the rip because it's going to take two years for you to qualify for most trucking companies insurance. And so you're not going to make no money in trucking for real for the first two years just because you don't qualify for insurance. So you might make upwards of like maybe 850 a week, 900 a week, you know, things like that.

[Big Ice Cup]

But it ain't going to be what.

[Deontay Kyle]

You think it is and you already there. Stay down with it and think about, think about your five year plan and how much more money you're going to be making five years from now. Where you talking about making 630 a week and we could, we talking about you making 18 to 2500 in the next two years and then the vast amount of opportunities in carpenter and areas of expertise and areas of concentration that you can get into. You just need to stay down bro, you know what I'm saying? Just stay down with it. You gonna be all right. You gotta be patient, you know what I'm saying? This life don't happen fast. When I started driving trucks, I wasn't making no money for real. But I knew what the potential was and I maximized and maxed out that potential. Time I left trucking shit, I was making. Yeah, am I at my highest? I was making like 23, 2400 a week, you know what I'm saying? I think when I left I was probably making a cool like 14, 1500, but I was driving super local so you know, it wasn't the same, but I mean, I still get money, you know what I'm saying? So don't chase money. Not in this shit. Chase experience. Stay down, stay patient, stay hungry, stay curious, stay motivated to find new opportunities and utilize what you got. Now, I will say this. An hour from LaGrange to Atlanta is crazy.

[Big Cat]

That's wild work. That's half your paycheck getting in gas.

[Deontay Kyle]

Boy, you could you better off finding a job in Alabama, to be honest.

[Big Cat]

I was about to say, take your.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ass at Phoenix City right there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Or, you know, find something in lagrange. But also look at what you can do across state lines. Because driving to Atlanta from LaGrange Every day is crazy. You either need to move to Atlanta or you need to find something closer to lagrange. I wouldn't suggest moving to Atlanta. Nah. So I would say, I mean, you way down 85, bro.

[Big Cat]

He's in Alabama.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's in Alabama.

[Big Cat]

Alabama.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think your focus need to be finding something local to you. Because lagrange is not an expensive city to live in. But when you paying all your money in gas and just beating your car.

[Big Cat]

Up for one, the maintenance on that motherfucker.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. I mean, you talking about three, three hours just in commute, day to day. Yeah. Cause in a fucking hour to drive to Atlanta, this is an hour and a half to get to work, because we gotta think about traffic. So I need you to like, lock in on the possibility of finding something closer to home. If you wanna take some time off and focus on something, focus on finding something closer to where you are. And that means looking in lagrange, and that means looking in the surrounding areas of lagrange. And that might be Alabama. Mm. It's there though. You know what I'm saying? Travel across state lines for work all the time, bro. Within reason.

[Big Cat]

You can go to Columbus.

[Big Ice Cup]

It's right now.

[Big Cat]

It's right there.

[Deontay Kyle]

I understand that the job opportunity might be better in Atlanta, but you need to be thinking about how much money you losing in gas every week. I mean, Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. You 6:30 after all that shit. Shit, you might be looking at another close to 800, $900 a week. You know what I'm saying? If you just was able to save your goddamn money from doing all that commuting. So, you know, be vigilant.

[Big Ice Cup]

If you good at what you do.

[Deontay Kyle]

That'S the part you focus on.

[Big Ice Cup]

You good at what you do, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gonna get in truck driving and hate it and think you making more money. Cause you're not gonna really enjoy it or be passionate about it. So always focus on the passion and be patient. We'll talk to you next time. Big cat. Yo, what you feeling, baby?

[Big Cat]

Feeling good, son. Grist and eggs radio presents new music Mondays. Absolutely every Monday at the main street studio, Mean street studios. Shout out to the good people over there. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out some good folks, man. Yeah, man.

[Big Cat]

Shout out to everybody involved, too.

[Deontay Kyle]

Big team around.

[Big Cat]

Big team, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Really big team. Yeah. Doing some really big things.

[Big Cat]

Yes, sir.

[Big Ice Cup]

All right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out to y', all, bro.

[Big Cat]

We sold out.

[Big Ice Cup]

We sold out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, we did. Sold out.

[Big Ice Cup]

Thanksgiving.

[Deontay Kyle]

Sold out. Sold out Brooklyn. Sold out. Now we focusing on Charlotte.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

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[Big Cat]

Ah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And not just the adsense dollars from YouTube, you know what I'm saying? So shout out to black underwear. Shout out to you matter. Shout out to the young lady that gifted us this. Shout out to all my. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Cat]

All my.

[Deontay Kyle]

All my. Shout out all my man BK you got anything before we go?

[Big Cat]

It's always hard to get out of here, you know, you never. We never want to say goodbye.

[Deontay Kyle]

Say goodbye. That's what got absolute, baby.

[Big Cat]

Yep. You know what I'm saying? It's just hip hop.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's just. You know what I'm saying? It's just my.

[Big Cat]

It's just rats, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Turn me up, man.

[Big Cat]

It's just rap.

[Deontay Kyle]

I just want to rap, man. Yeah. Yeah.

[Poet or Spoken Word Artist]

They say without the proper labor, faith don't stand a chance. I put my faith in faith and stand on fertile land. I planted seeds Adeline de Turn into trees before rest in peace teas get printed to me unless impeded. Matter of fact, that got me thinking back when Mr. Love was tending to his garden, schooling me to annuity before he grabbed his clubs to go golfing. And it's no coincidence that those still had the caddy back when woods were still the best. Don't let me roll off course here, Georgie. Pops was dropping gems while I was lighting cigs. But, you know, I too was listening with.

[Deontay Kyle]

You.

[Poet or Spoken Word Artist]

See, that's the best that I can do. Wisdom is the application of knowledge. I was picking up what he was putting down. Just wasn't applying it. I ain't denying it. Nah, maybe I was too busy trying to find the balance between religion and science, trying to get to the bottom of everything while being the highest.