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Growing Unicorns
Hosted by Korina Edwards, Holly Chen · EN
Welcome to Growing Unicorns. Every week Holly Chen and Korina Edwards come together with some fun guest hosts at a live interactive discussion where we unpack stories from the trenches while we're working with some of the fastest growing unicorns today.
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Aligning Strategies around Traditional Demand Generation and ABM with Auseh Britt, Terminus
Jun 14, 202200:31:30Tap to summarizeIn this conversation with VP of Growth Marketing at Terminus, Auseh Britt, talks about demand gen marketing strategies. Today, you’ll hear about the marketing organization at Terminus, traditional demand gen versus ABM, how Terminus prioritizes budgeting, strategic accounts, and broad market coverage, ABM marketing campaigns, pulling intent data for campaigns, how to rally everyone behind a strategy, and some of the common mistakes and misconceptions about ABM.Starting her career in Civil Engineering, and working for the Department of Transportation, Auseh realized that she enjoyed the project management aspect of the industry. She soon pivoted to marketing roles at InterContinental Hotels, Teleflora, Business.com, Bloomberg, Questex, Logi Analytics, and Terminus. Auseh holds a BSc in Civil Engineering from the University of Florida and an MBA in Marketing from Carnegie Mellon University - Tepper School of Business.Episode Outline[00:30] Auseh’s career path[02:40] Marketing organization at Terminus[04:25] Traditional demand gen versus ABM[07:53] Splitting budgets between traditional demand gen and ABM[10:19] Tying budget to customer lifetime value[11:44] The split between strategic accounts versus broader market coverage[13:40] The target market personas[17:18] Campaign alignment between marketing and sales[22:08] The mechanics of pulling intent data for campaigns[23:39] Common mistakes and misconceptions about ABM[26:59] Rallying everyone behind a strategy[29:05] Auseh’s adviceConnect with Auseh LinkedInWebsiteConnect with Korina and HollyLinkedIn - Korina Edwards, Matter MadeTwitter - Korina EdwardsMatter Made WebsiteMatter Made Growing Unicorns YouTube ChannelLinkedIn - Holly Chen, ExponentialXTwitter - Holly ChenExponentialX Website
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Balancing Quick Wins and Long-term Growth Strategy with Jack Foster, WorkRamp
Apr 19, 202200:32:33Tap to summarizeIn this conversation with VP of Marketing at WorkRamp, Jack Foster, she talks about growth and marketing. Today, you’ll hear about Jack’s first 6 months at WorkRamp, finding the balance between quick wins and long-term strategy, what she looks for during the interview process, how she structures teams, time-management and prioritization, marketing sources, establishing team relationships, and her thoughts on marketing ops, analytics, reporting, and attribution.Prior to joining WorkRamp, Jack spent her career leading B2B Marketing teams. She has served in roles in companies including Momentive, CATechnology, ARCserve, and Lever.Episode Outline[00:27] Jack’s background[02:11] The first 6 months[05:00] Larger teams vs hyper growth mode[06:48] The first 90 to 180 days[08:21] Balancing quick wins and long-term strategies[10:09] Jack’s interview process[12:50] Some more quick wins[15:00] Structuring the team[17:14] Building a marketing team mental model[18:28] Marketing ops and analytics[20:01] Brand design, reporting[21:18] Goal Setting[22:29] Attribution[23:41] A baseline percent source for marketing[25:01] Is direct traffic counted as part of marketing?[26:43] Establishing team relationships[29:18] How does Jack manage her time?[30:58] The role of marketingConnect with JackLinkedInWebsiteConnect with Korina and HollyLinkedIn - Korina Edwards, Matter MadeTwitter - Korina EdwardsMatter Made WebsiteMatter Made Growing Unicorns YouTube ChannelLinkedIn - Holly Chen, ExponentialXTwitter - Holly ChenExponentialX Website
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North Star Goals from the Growth Playbook with Adam Goyette, Help Scout
Feb 28, 202200:24:51Tap to summarizeIn this conversation with Adam Goyette, Marketing Leader at Help Scout, he talks about product, marketing, and growth. Today, you’ll hear about the key hires that Adam considers for a new team, how he structures his teams, his perspective as a growth leader versus as a marketing leader, advocating for something less measurable (such as content), choosing where to allocate resources, important lessons Adam has learned, and his thoughts on product growth versus marketing growth.For almost 20 years, Adam has served in various marketing roles, including as the VP of Demand Generation at G2. Currently, Adam serves as the VP of Marketing at Help Scout, as well as Marketing Advisor at both TestBox and Rocketium. Adam holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Journalism from the University of Maine.Episode Outline[00:23] About Adam[01:01] Adam’s perspective as a growth leader vs as a marketing leader[02:19] Key team hires[03:32] Advocating for something less measurable[06:50] Allocating and prioritizing resources[13:29] Lessons Adam has learned[17:37] Structuring the marketing team[20:45] Thinking about product growth vs marketing growthConnect with AdamLinkedInWebsiteTestBoxRocketiumConnect with Korina and HollyLinkedIn - Korina Edwards, Matter MadeTwitter - Korina EdwardsMatter Made WebsiteMatter Made Growing Unicorns YouTube ChannelLinkedIn - Holly Chen, ExponentialXTwitter - Holly ChenExponentialX Website
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Wielding Video in your B2B Strategy with Kasey Chen, Head of Growth Marketing, Taina
Feb 14, 202200:17:56Tap to summarizeIn this conversation with KC Chan, Digital Growth Transformer, he talks about digital growth. KC has extensive experience in digital marketing, with interests in growth hacking and Flywheel customer-centric strategies. His career experience in e-Commerce ventures, marketing ROI reporting, and lead generation insights has allowed him to excel at collaborating both vertically and horizontally. KC’s work as a digital growth transformer helps companies stand out both creatively and quantifiably. He is a speaker at the London Social Media Week, and is an expert user on Asana, HubSpot, and Salesforce.KC holds a BSc in Accounting and Finance from the University of Warwick Business School, an MA in Management from Durham University Business School, as well as numerous certificates in marketing.Today, you’ll hear about using video as a growth tool, the most effective ways to ensure videos are seen, defining the engagement rate, using email versus video message, and some best practices.Episode Outline[00:30] Introducing KC[01:26] Getting into growth[03:13] Video as a growth tool[05:27] Categorising video variations and usage[07:46] Effective ways to make sure someone sees a video[10:23] Email vs video message[12:48] Defining engagement rate[15:47] Best practicesConnect with KaseyLinkedInTwitterConnect with Korina and HollyLinkedIn - Korina Edwards, Matter MadeTwitter - Korina EdwardsMatter Made WebsiteMatter Made Growing Unicorns YouTube ChannelLinkedIn - Holly Chen, ExponentialXTwitter - Holly ChenExponentialX Website
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Solid Gold B2B Marketing Discussion with Korina Edwards and Holly Chen
Feb 7, 202200:24:48Tap to summarizeIn this conversation, Korina Edwards and Holly Chen talk about brand, marketing, and growth. Hear about SEO and paid search, brand search, keyword bidding, the roles of different channels, and hiring growth and product marketers.Episode Outline[00:40] SEO and paid search[07:15] The channel mix[08:12] Brand search[12:28] Bidding on keywords[15:30] The role of a channel[17:08] Should companies hire growth marketers or product marketers first?Connect with Korina and HollyLinkedIn - Korina Edwards, Matter MadeTwitter - Korina EdwardsMatter Made WebsiteMatter Made Growing Unicorns YouTube ChannelLinkedIn - Holly Chen, ExponentialXTwitter - Holly ChenExponentialX Website
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Building Marketing Bridges to Drive Growth with Bennet Bayer, Chief Growth Officer, CTD Solutions
Jan 31, 202200:41:33Tap to summarizeIn this conversation with Bennet Bayer, CMO of CTD Solutions Group, he talks about marketing and growth. Hear about Bennet’s journey through his many roles, what the first 90 days look like for a CMO, the role of a CMO in a company, doing schmooze marketing, some of the challenges Bennet has faced, and get Bennet’s advice to aspiring CMO’s.Episode Outline[00:37] Introducing Bennet[01:57] Joining Huawei[04:17] Global CMO versus US CMO[06:36] CMO at Huawei[08:50] The first 90 days as a CMO[13:08] What should a CMO be?[15:24] What is a CMO’s job?[20:10] The changing role of the CMO[23:53] Schmooze marketing[28:12] The most common challenges at turnaround companies[30:08] Problems that you can’t solve[32:35] Learning to scale massive companies[36:04] Bennet’s advice to aspiring CMO’s[39:31] “Marketing doesn’t get involved.”Connect with BennetLinkedInWebsiteConnect with Korina, Holly, and Jay LinkedIn - Korina Edwards, Matter MadeTwitter - Korina EdwardsMatter Made WebsiteMatter Made Growing Unicorns YouTube ChannelLinkedIn - Holly Chen, ExponentialXTwitter - Holly ChenExponentialX WebsiteLinkedIn - Jay Ebert, Matter Made Matter Made Website
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Episode 12 with Julia Yan, Head of Growth at TikTok
Jan 4, 202200:27:04Tap to summarizeIn this conversation with Julia Yan, Head of Growth at TikTok, she talks about growth and team building. Hear about Julia’s career leading to the growth industry, growing teams and herself, what she looks for when building a team, cross-team collaboration, and how she solves the challenges her team faces.Episode Outline[00:45] Introducing Julia[01:52] Getting into growth[08:03] Building a team[10:57] Thinking about hiring profiles[17:08] How the growth team works with other teams[21:20] How to keep growing yourself[24:07] The biggest challenges Julia’s team has faced in the growth spaceConnect with JuliaLinkedInWebsiteConnect with Elias, Korina, and HollyLinkedIn - Elias Rubel, Matter MadeTwitter - Elias RubelMatter Made WebsiteLinkedIn - Korina Edwards, Matter MadeTwitter - Korina EdwardsMatter Made WebsiteLinkedIn - Holly Chen, ExponentialXTwitter - Holly ChenExponentialX Website
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Episode 11 with Meagen Eisenberg, CMO at TripActions
Nov 19, 202100:42:13Tap to summarizeIn this conversation with Meagen Eisenberg, CMO at TripActions, she talks about teambuilding, growth, and marketing. Hear about teams at hypergrowth companies, the order in which to build a team, building a company narrative, aligning marketing values to executive teams, what the first marketing hire should be, and Meagen’s thoughts on taking chances on people.Episode Outline[00:41] Introducing Meagen[01:29] Growing teams at hypergrowth companies[04:34] Building a team in order[06:35] Mastering product-market fit[07:31] Integrating teams[10:44] How to build a narrative[15:06] Tailoring your comments[16:53] Keeping NPS in mind[17:26] Challenges in aligning teams[25:00] Forming your own opinion[27:18] Aligning long-term marketing values to C-Suite and boards[30:45] The first marketing hire[34:18] Growing, coaching, and taking a chance on people[38:05] The three H’sConnect with MeagenLinkedInWebsiteTwitterInstagramConnect with Elias, Korina, and HollyLinkedIn - Elias Rubel, Matter MadeTwitter - Elias RubelMatter Made WebsiteLinkedIn - Korina Edwards, Matter MadeTwitter - Korina EdwardsMatter Made WebsiteLinkedIn - Holly Chen, ExponentialXTwitter - Holly ChenExponentialX Website
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Episode 10 Stories from the trenches
Nov 12, 202100:41:41Tap to summarizeIn this conversation, the team talks about marketing and growth. Hear about typical hiring profiles, solving worries with communication, paying attention to the details, the best practices to convert from free trial to paid, marketing for horizontal products versus vertical products, and predictability in younger companies.Episode Outline[00:55] Coming up in the growth industry[07:45] Startup to Google[09:49] Google to Slack[13:07] The typical profile[21:50] Having a template[25:27] The devil is in the details[27:01] Horizontal vs vertical products[29:54] Focus and communication[32:35] Free trial to paid best practicesConnect with Elias, Korina, and Holly LinkedIn - Elias Rubel, Matter MadeTwitter - Elias RubelMatter Made WebsiteLinkedIn - Korina Edwards, Matter MadeTwitter - Korina EdwardsMatter Made WebsiteLinkedIn - Holly Chen, ExponentialXTwitter - Holly ChenExponentialX Website
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Episode 09 with Palmer Houchins, VP of Brand Marketing at G2
Nov 8, 202100:47:39Tap to summarizeIn this conversation with Palmer Houchins, VP of Brand Marketing and Communications at G2, he talks about brand, communications, and marketing. Hear about building a brand, using the brand dashboard, interpreting brand lift studies, how Covid has changed the landscape, what Palmer’s first 90 days looks like, and the importance of the end-user.Episode Outline[00:55] Introducing Palmer[03:03] How brand and comms changed during Covid[05:44] When to consider building a brand[07:20] Defining brand marketing[11:45] Palmer’s favorite metrics[13:54] Commissioning a brand study[17:07] The brand dashboard[21:37] The brand lift study[24:50] Recommended tools[27:42] Choosing the best creatives[34:06] Testing practically[38:47] The importance of the end-user[43:42] Palmer’s first 90 daysConnect with PalmerLinkedInWebsiteConnect with Elias, Korina, and HollyLinkedIn - Elias Rubel, Matter MadeTwitter - Elias RubelMatter Made WebsiteLinkedIn - Korina Edwards, Matter MadeTwitter - Korina EdwardsMatter Made WebsiteLinkedIn - Holly Chen, ExponentialXTwitter - Holly ChenExponentialX Website
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