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Brian Schulmeister
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Jason DeFilippo
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Brian Schulmeister
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Jason DeFilippo
Grumpy Old Geeks, a weekly talk show hosted by Brian Schulmeister and Jason DeFilippo discussing the finer points of what went wrong on the Internet and who's to blame. Welcome to Grumpy Old geeks. I'm Jason DeFilippo.
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Brian Schulmeister
And I'm Brian Schulmeister.
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Jason DeFilippo
Interesting week for me, Brian. It might bring back some feels for you. I've been dealing with the music industry this week.
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Brian Schulmeister
Oh, God, I'm sorry.
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Jason DeFilippo
No, it's been amazing. It's been amazing. Well, because mainly we're on the periphery for this one. One of the artists we work with, Deshaun Wesley, has done a mix track with this super duper K pop group called Le Sserafim. Who. I don't know if you watched the VMAs. They opened and closed the pre show of the VMAs this week. I know nobody watches the VMAs anymore.
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Brian Schulmeister
You'll be shocked to hear that. I did not.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, trust me. The only reason we watch it because they were on it. But we had a piece that we filmed with desean and the girls in New York City and their social media team is like Seal Team 6. It is incredible to deal with them. They've got, they've got a, like, you know, I'm sure you, you, you were probably on this team for your artists, the ones that followed them around, take the photos, the videos that are following them 24 7, right?
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Brian Schulmeister
Yep. Yeah, I did that a couple times.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, I think. Weren't you on that for Coldplay?
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Brian Schulmeister
I did the. Not so much for Coldplay. I did that a lot for Alanis and the Goo Goo Dolls and.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, got it. So we were just dealing with them, with scheduling and things like that. And these guys knew to the minute which video, like, you know, like almost a week ahead, they had scheduled videos that they hadn't shot that were already in the queue to get published just because they knew they were going to get it.
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Brian Schulmeister
I tried to get people to do that for years. I'm like, just have it organize people. How wonderful that must be.
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Jason DeFilippo
Oh, these kids are on it, man. They are on it. And then so last night, like, like literally to the second. I'm sure it was all scheduled in the system, but, you know, some of the videos that we shot went out and woke up this morning. 4 million views by this morning.
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Dave Buettner
Pretty good.
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Jason DeFilippo
I just. This little dance video, it's like, Jesus.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, we're doing the wrong things.
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Jason DeFilippo
Well, here's the problem, Brian. We're not. We're not five really cute Korean girls with talent.
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Brian Schulmeister
Oh, yeah, there's that.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yes. Yeah. With. With a banger of a song that I cannot get out of my. It's insane. All week then hearing this song.
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Brian Schulmeister
Jason, listening to K Pop was not on my bingo card for this year.
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Jason DeFilippo
Trust me, man. It was not on my bingo card either. It was not on my bingo card either, but it just got me, it got me nostalgic for being on teams like that that just really got shit done, you know, back in the day. Because I didn't, didn't do that with music. You were the music guy, but I was the movie guy. And when, you know, when we were running up to the launch of a movie, any like, you know, that Friday premiere, it was just go, go, go, go, go. All hands on deck. Everything was like, you know, just a well oiled machine. And then as soon, as soon as the movie was done, 5 o'clock on a Friday, we were at the bar and had the whole team celebrating cigars and whiskey and it was a blast. So much fun.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, we're too old for that now.
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Jason DeFilippo
Now I hit publish and I text you and you're like, okay, I'll get to it when I can. Kids got a poop or something. That's our lives now.
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Brian Schulmeister
Pretty much. Yeah.
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Jason DeFilippo
Oh, man. Okay, that's my walk down memory lane.
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Brian Schulmeister
All right, well, I actually agree with you. I do miss working with teams that actually knew what they were doing and were dedicated and into it. Hard to find.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah. Anyways, let's do a little follow up here. We had talked a little bit about, well, you know, Neil Gaiman's troubles and how that might be affecting some of his shows, including some things that were already being pushed back and God knows what. And as we were talking about as long as we get Good Omens season.
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Jason DeFilippo
Three and Sandman season two and three.
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Brian Schulmeister
Sandman season two and three, who cares? Not looking like that's going to be happening. Well, we'll see. Basically the first story that came out, the one that I saw, and I think you have some follow up on this, is that they've decided to pause season three of Good omens for a bit with possible production changes being considered, right?
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Jason DeFilippo
Yes, they. And right on the heels of that, Neil came out and said, hey, guys. Hey, guys. Go ahead, I'll step out. And nobody's made any decisions on what's going to happen yet, but he's at least willing to take the step to say, look, I don't want to be. I don't want to stop the production of the show. Just go on without me now.
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Brian Schulmeister
So here's my question. Has he already written it?
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Jason DeFilippo
Because he's done.
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Brian Schulmeister
Okay, then. All right, all right. As long as he's written it. Because if he's stepping out and somebody else is taking over the writing, remember, we are off script. We have left behind the book. So this is uncharted territory. And Neil Gaiman being the only person who is still alive that was involved in the writing of said book, I would want him to be writing this. I don't want anybody else to do it.
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Jason DeFilippo
No, I'm pretty sure that the script is. I'm sure there would normally be, like, on set rewrites and things like that for stuff that didn't quite work or whatnot. So there might be some, you know, some wonkitude built into it, but at least he's willing to let it kind of, you know, kick off and keep going. So, yeah, you know, season two was off, off script too. So it's like whatever we get, we get true.
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Brian Schulmeister
And it's not like he's not getting paid for the writing of it. So, you know, we're fine.
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Jason DeFilippo
Exactly, exactly. And I think Sandman Season 2, there was some news coming out about that this week. Just a few little spoilers, but they're supposed to be dropping a trailer for that soon because I think that's been in the can for a while. It's all been post production.
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Brian Schulmeister
Right.
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Jason DeFilippo
Because that is a very effect heavy show. So I'm really looking forward to that one because season one was just absolute perfection. Chef's kiss. So, yeah, at least Neil's willing to step back, you know, because apparently he doesn't love it when a ding dong comes together. Oh, man. So I saw this one as a little more follow up on the Waymo story that we talked about and how we are actually apparently kind of scary, but not so bad in San Francisco. And I love this. What do Uber drivers make of Waymo? We're cooked.
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Brian Schulmeister
Well, yeah, eventually for sure.
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Jason DeFilippo
We're looking at next year. People are thinking that Waymo will probably be able to undercut Uber drivers, at least for rates in San Francisco.
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Brian Schulmeister
And don't forget Uber drivers. That Uber has basically said that that is their mission statement is to get rid of you eventually as well.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, oh yeah, that was, you know, yeah, Waymo just took the long game and just had been playing it out because, you know, they got the Google money and Uber spent all their money undercutting taxis and every other competitor by subsidizing rides. So that's where all their, their investment went to was all the, you know, making rides cheaper by just eating them. Eating the cost of it. Yep, it's interesting. Now this next story, the title does not really reflect what these story is about. Human drivers keep rear ending Waymos.
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Brian Schulmeister
Okay.
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Jason DeFilippo
Which makes it sound like there's a problem with the waymos, but the problem is there's a problem with the humans. So Waymo has actually started to release some data on their cars and how safe they are compared to human drivers. And it turns out they're actually quite a bit safer. So they actually put up a new website called the Waymo safety impact website, which has graphs and charts and things like that. But getting back to the first story, the guy who said that we're cooked, but he also followed up saying we're done for. In the age of artificial intelligence and automation, we're the first to be impacted in a major way. No, no you're not. Because the cars aren't driven by AI to begin with. They're driven by standard good old machine learning and lidar and things like that. But yeah, yeah, yeah, Otherwise you are 100% cooked I think in the long run. But the Waymo safety side of things, look, yeah, the cars are going to be safer than humans. We've always thought that, we thought that there needs to be a 100% switchover. So we're in this weird in between time, especially in San Francisco. But you know, the crash ratings are better. But they do have a 100% no sexual assault rating at this point so far. So they're beating Uber on that by a long shot.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, definitely. Look again, it comes down to the way people drive nowadays. And I mean not to be old man yelling at clouds, but we didn't have all these things when we were, when we were younger and we were driving. So we kind of paid attention to the road. Like I'm not in a car very often anymore. I'm living in Toronto. There's an awful lot of public transport available. I'm walking a lot more. I can get around most places without ever being in a car. Some Places I do have to get in a car. Every time I'm in a car, I look over, they're on their phones, everybody's on their phones. Everybody's driving. So no wonder. Of course, a robot that is a phone is not going to hurt us as much anymore.
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Jason DeFilippo
But I mean, also Covid, I think made me forget how to drive completely. That really screwed up everything.
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Brian Schulmeister
Nobody. People have come back with a lot of anger issues while they're.
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Jason DeFilippo
Oh, Jesus Christ, dude, come back down here, Stay here for longer than you did. It's, it's, it's bad. Yeah, but you have to remember that, Brian, when we were driving around in, in our heyday, we had binders of CDs that we would have on our lap trying to find that one CD and get, try to eject the other one. And God forbid you had one of the multiple CD track players in your car, you're trying to find the one, the slot that has eject the car trace. So you can eject the. Yep. And do all that while driving too. You know, we had, we had our.
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Brian Schulmeister
Bits and plus I was drinking a Budweiser.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, that too, probably. I remember in Texas we used to go to drive, drive through liquor stores in our pickup trucks. Yeah, I wasn't driving back then. I was with the people who were, who were driving through. But yes. Yeah, my stepdad would all the time, you know, pick up a, pick up a six pack on the way home and crack one in the truck. Yep. So. Ah, yes, Gen X, the way we did it.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yes. Most of us are still here.
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Jason DeFilippo
Well, less every day. Our numbers are dwindling, my friend. Our numbers are dwindling. So this one came in from Stephen a bit ago and I tried to get it in last week, but we just ran out of time. Stephen writes in. Sorry if this has been answered recently. British schools are moving away from using cash or cards to pay for lunches. Yes, we know. We talked about the thumbprints and the. Oh, we actually talked about the facial recognitions and then the thumbprints came into it. He says, my son's school doesn't allow cash, cards or phones on the premises. Two reasons. First, it means children whom are on free school meals are not identified as only a fingerprint is required, which is nice. So they don't get, you know, don't get shit for it. That's cool. Yep. Because. Yeah, and growing up Gen X, you on the free lunch plan. Everybody knew it. Two local muggers know that a kid from this school has absolutely nothing of any Value on them. Not even smartwatches are allowed. Nothing other than school equipment. Nothing to rob them for. Hence safer kids. That's how we do it in the uk. Two very fine jobs.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yes, I would point out, Stephen, if that's how you do it in the uk, I'm a little worried about these roving bands of buggers you have everywhere.
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Jason DeFilippo
Well, it is the uk, Come on. There's always been roving bands.
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Brian Schulmeister
There's a strong Robin Hood tradition.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, there really is.
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Brian Schulmeister
The principle of Nottingham, I tell you.
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Jason DeFilippo
In the news.
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Brian Schulmeister
Well, Jason, we've talked an awful lot about the price of coffee fines that all these big tech companies have been getting. I'm starting to think the EU is not fucking around anymore, Jason.
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Jason DeFilippo
You think?
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah. So Europe's highest court has ruled that Apple must pay back its 13 billion pound, roughly 14.4 billion. Irish tax break deemed illegal by the EU Commission way back in 2016. That's a lot of money.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, well, for most companies it's a lot of money. It's still Apple. So maybe, okay, it's the espresso budget.
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Brian Schulmeister
It'S not the cheap coffee budget. Yeah. The decision by the European Court of Justice overTurns an early 2020 decision by a lower court which was in Apple's favor. This confirms their decision. Ireland granted Apple unlawful aid, which Ireland is required to recover. The judges wrote. So even basically the EU is making Ireland get this money back for the tax breaks that they've been giving tech companies. So tech companies would come into Ireland.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, Ireland's like, we don't want it. We don't want it.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, we don't want it. We want these people coming here because we have rules that require them to hire people and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, yeah, but the EU is saying, no, you got to actually pay the taxes that we say we're taking. So yeah, we'll see slightly less of a fine. But Google has lost its seven year fight against $2.7 billion EU antitrust fine. So they've got to pay that back. Antitrust regulators originally levied the penalty against Google in 2017 for favoring its own shopping service against local rivals. Now, Google says of course, that this isn't true. We're obviously pushing people to other places and we link to them as well. I don't know, pull up anything you want to shop in Google. Right now I see the Google Store. The Google Store. The Google Store. The Google Store. The Google Store. The Google Store, The Google Store and the Google Store. So maybe they have a Point.
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Jason DeFilippo
I think they have a point, yes.
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Brian Schulmeister
An unnamed Google spokesperson has already responded to the decision, saying the company is disappointed with the judgment. So they're saying, of course, we've been doing this. Our approaches work successfully for more than seven years, generating billions of clicks for the more than 800 comparison shopping services. Didn't mention how many went to them, of course.
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Jason DeFilippo
So, yeah, okay.
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Brian Schulmeister
The EU Commission found primarily that since Google is unlikely to change its behavior, only the mandatory divestment of part of its services would address competition concerns. So they're looking into that now because they don't trust Google to do a damn thing about it.
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Jason DeFilippo
Correct. And guess what? So are we. Yes. The U.S. department of Justice's antitrust trial against Google has begun and they are focusing on the company's dominance in the ad tech industry. Yep, that's where it is. DOJ lawyer Julia Tarver Wood accused Google of holding a trifecta of monopolies, claiming the tech giant's control over digital advertising tools stifles competition and inflates costs for advertisers while lowering earnings for publishers. The DOJ argues that Google manipulates ad auctions to its advantage, of course negatively impacting both advertisers and website creators. They are the, they are the middle. The 800 pound middleman, you know?
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, middlemen used to take a pittance. Now they take most of it.
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Jason DeFilippo
They take the, they take the. Yeah, the lion's share. Witnesses from major publishers like USA Today and News Corp are expected to testify. Testify, my brother. This trial, anticipated to last four to six weeks, might be more damaging to Google than previous cases, potentially leading to a divestment of Google's ad services or even splitting the company. Okay, yeah. Nothing wrong with that.
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Brian Schulmeister
Just another company under the Alphabet umbrella at this point.
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Jason DeFilippo
They can make it up with Waymo Rides.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah.
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Jason DeFilippo
But then Google turns around and does something very interesting. Google has partnered with the Internet Archive to bring back the ability to view past versions of web pages, a feature it removed earlier this year. The Google cache was amazing when it was there, wasn't it?
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Brian Schulmeister
Yep.
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Jason DeFilippo
Because the great part was, yeah, it was awesome. Because back in the day, when you show up on the first page of Google, it actually meant something. It wasn't just an ad. And it could take down your website. So the Google cache was there just as a backup in case your website went down, which happened. I don't know if it happened to you, Brian, with the music stuff, but it happened to me all the time with.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, it was a really valuable service.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah. So now if you click the three dots next to the URL, you can get a link to the Wayback Machine and see what the page was like before. Now, this is cool that they're, they're, you know, getting with the Internet Archive to do this, even though the Internet Archive has been having issues lately with their book scanning Kerber kerfuffles, which, you know, has been kind of riding that line just a little bit. Now. The thing is, I really hope Google is going to help out the Internet Archive with some infrastructure for this, because the Internet Archive isn't. I don't know if you've seen the videos or been there. It's not huge. You know, it's not. And if they're going to be putting that on every Google search, I'm really hoping they're going to throw a few servers their way. But I thought that's pretty cool.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, good on you, Google. Shame on the rest of it, but good on that part.
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Jason DeFilippo
Good on, good on that side. Yeah, I think they're just trying to get. Garner some goodwill wherever they can at this point.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah.
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Jason DeFilippo
So next, next up, we hear we have some genetic testing companies in hot water. Sort of. Sort of. The ftc.
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Brian Schulmeister
They're genetic testing companies in primordial soup.
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Jason DeFilippo
Okay, you win. You win. The FTC has mandated that One Health I.O. previously known as Vitagene. I don't know which name is worse. They're both pretty. 1. 1 sounds like a really bad supplement company and one sounds like they. They really wanted a different URL and they couldn't afford it.
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Brian Schulmeister
Or it's a greens drink.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah.
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Brian Schulmeister
Did you have your Vitagene this morning?
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Jason DeFilippo
I need some new Vita genes because I squirted my old Genesis breach. So they have been ordered by the FTC to refund. Nearly. Wait for it. $50,000 to nearly 2,432 customers after a major data breach.
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Brian Schulmeister
All right.
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Jason DeFilippo
I guess it depends on how many customers they had if it's major or not, because 2,400 customers isn't major in most companies that the FTC would go after. Neither is $50,000. But hey, what are you going to do?
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Brian Schulmeister
They're sending a message, Jason.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yes. Despite promises of strong data protection, vitagene's site did not adhere to its own privacy claims, including proper data and destruction protocols. Additionally, the company retroactively altered its privacy policy to share data with third parties without customer consent, which is the real crux of the matter.
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Brian Schulmeister
I would go ahead and basically call that almost industry standard.
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Jason DeFilippo
That's true on the Internet.
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Brian Schulmeister
I think if you did a survey, I would say 90% of websites don't follow their own privacy policies because they just lifted it from some other site. And they always go back and go, oh, shit, we didn't have this in our privacy policy. We should just update it and don't tell anybody right now.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yes, yes. So they can't do that anymore thanks to the FTC Act. So Samuel Levine, director of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection, said back in 2023 companies that try to change the rules of the game by rewriting their privacy policy are on notice. The FTC act prohibits companies from unilaterally applying material privacy policy changes to previously collected data. So you can't go back in time, you can't use the Wayback Machine to go back and fix it, because now everybody knows what it used to say. So stop it.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah. Well, we got some news from Australia. Meta scraped every Australian user's account to train its AI. This came out of a government inquiry about AI adoption in Australia. And Meta's global privacy director, Melinda Claybaugh was asked whether her company had been collecting Australia's data to train its generative AI technology, according to which she replied, crikey. According to ABC News. She denied the claim, but after being asked a second time, she admitted that Meta scrapes all the photos and texts and all Facebook and Instagram posts from as far back as 2007 unless the user had set their posts to private. So, no, we don't do that. Are you asking me again? Yeah, we do that.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah. Some people leave her on the shoulder and handed her a post it and said, yeah, we actually do that.
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Brian Schulmeister
She also admitted that the company isn't offering Australians an opt out option like it does to users in the European Union, because no gdpr. This is GDPR is good. Claybaugh said that Meta doesn't scrape the accounts of users under 18 years old, but she admitted that the company still collects their photos and other information if they post it on their parents or guardians accounts. Yeah. She also couldn't answer if the company collects data from previous years once a user does turn 18.
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Jason DeFilippo
Oh, I didn't even think about that.
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Brian Schulmeister
It's fair game now, right?
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Jason DeFilippo
Yep.
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Brian Schulmeister
Again, this is why you absolutely should have your Facebook account set to private. Unless there's a particular reason you wouldn't. Wouldn't. I. E. You're a celebrity and then you don't really give a. So. Ah. But keeping on with social media in Australia, the Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has promised to introduce legislation that would prevent children under a certain age from using social media altogether. The Australian government would start its social media initiative by testing age verification technology sometime this year. Let me save you some time. Nobody's found anything that's worked.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yep.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah. He also didn't state a specific age limit, but estimated he'd like the band to be for children younger than 14 to 16. Because we know that social media is causing social harm. Meta issued a statement in response to the PM's proposal noting that Facebook and Instagram already have a minimum age requirement of 13 years for users.
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Jason DeFilippo
That they don't enforce.
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Brian Schulmeister
That they don't enforce and is basically a fucking checkbox.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah.
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Brian Schulmeister
So the social media company also noted it wants to empower young people to benefit from social media with parental controls and monitoring instead of just cutting off access.
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Jason DeFilippo
You cannot benefit from social media with parental act. Parental monitoring. That's. That takes the fun out of it. Yeah, that totally takes the fun out of it.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah.
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Jason DeFilippo
They're teenagers. They want to do shit that their parents don't know about. That's the whole point.
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Brian Schulmeister
I think they're talking about people much younger than that. So.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah.
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Brian Schulmeister
Which I'm just thinking, what the hell are you even doing with having a kid on there? It just doesn't make any sense. Well, yeah, anyways, go for it, Australia. Good luck with that.
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Jason DeFilippo
Good luck, Australia. Oh, good luck Nevada too. Nevada is partnering with Google to launch a first of its kind AI system to help decide unemployment benefits. Oh, this is going to go really well.
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Brian Schulmeister
What possibly go wrong?
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Jason DeFilippo
The AI will analyze transcripts from appeals hearings and make recommendations to human referees. We have referees now. It's what we've been devolved to. Aiming to speed up the decision making process and clear a backlog of claims dating back to the pandemic. While the system is expected to reduce processing time significantly, concerns have been raised, as they well should, about potential automation bias and errors. Critics, including legal experts, worry that the emphasis on speed could lead to rushed decisions risking fairness. State officials assure that all AI recommendations will be reviewed by humans before final decisions are made. Get that rubber stamp out now.
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Brian Schulmeister
Obviously I am not on board with this. I think this is a pretty crappy idea. I mean, it depends on how many human referees there are and are you making them wear the footlocker outfit? Did you give them a whistle? I have concerns about all these sorts of things, but I do the one point on the side for perhaps trying to figure out some sort of solution that maybe uses AI or at least machine learning or something like that. The worry that the emphasis on speed could lead to rush decisions. Man, you've got a backlog going back before the pandemic. We need to have some emphasis on speed here.
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Jason DeFilippo
Hire the unemployed people that are on the list to go through the list because then they'll have jobs and you'll get your backlog done faster because there'll be less people on the backlog there. Solved it.
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Brian Schulmeister
Solved.
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Jason DeFilippo
Done. You're welcome, Nevada.
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Brian Schulmeister
Nobody listens to our show though.
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Jason DeFilippo
That's true. I saw the numbers. It's bad.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, there you go. Getting back to potential blocks on social media for youth. Yeah, it's not going to happen here either. On Tuesday, Chief U.S. district Judge Robert Shelby granted a preliminary injunction to block Utah from limiting the social media usage of minors. Republican Governor Spencer Cox had signed the Utah Minor Protection or the UMP act in social media earlier in March.
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Jason DeFilippo
Umpires and referees, that's what we got now.
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Brian Schulmeister
That's all we got. People blowing whistles at each other everywhere. Mostly dog whistles on the Internet if you really think about it.
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Jason DeFilippo
True that. True.
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Brian Schulmeister
A lot of whistles. Yeah. It was supposed to take effect in October 1, but the court's decision to block the law is a victory for young social media users in Utah. That's one way to look at it. This isn't the first time that Utah's governor has attempted to limit social media use among the youths in the state. Last year he signed two bills that required parents to grant permission for teens to create social media accounts. Again. Who's monitoring that? What number do I fax my form to? Utah?
- [24:57]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah.
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Brian Schulmeister
And these accounts had limitations like curfews and age verification. Curfews, okay. Oh my God. This is why this shit's impossible. So good luck.
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Jason DeFilippo
But anyways, it is Utah though, by the way.
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Brian Schulmeister
It is Utah.
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Jason DeFilippo
Utah's a different country. All. All unto itself.
- [25:12]
Brian Schulmeister
Yep. All right, well, good luck with that. Utah and Australia and Nevada. And Nevada and everybody.
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Jason DeFilippo
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Brian Schulmeister
Well, in good news and bad news, Star Trek's lower decks is returning to Paramount plus with two episodes on October 24th. But as we all know, it is the final season. Sadly, I think far too soon. But the. There's a little trip clip out. It's pretty damn funny.
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Jason DeFilippo
It is pretty funny.
- [28:53]
Brian Schulmeister
I'm looking forward to it.
- [28:54]
Jason DeFilippo
I'm going to miss that show.
- [28:55]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, me too. It's really good. So we'll see. We got to start a writing campaign or something.
- [29:02]
Jason DeFilippo
Good luck.
- [29:03]
Brian Schulmeister
It's Paramount plus there's a new documentary that came out. It's actually a documentary series about sports called Untold with a bunch of different episodes. But the episode that I watched was Hope Solo versus US Soccer. I'm a big fan of Hope Solo. She's obviously had a lot of trouble, but I would say, hands down, she is the best US Goalkeeper ever. Men or women, doesn't matter. She's the best we've ever had. Pretty sad story. Pretty sad documentary. Pretty sad that all our teammates basically just left her for dead, dumped her under the bus, didn't care. She actually started the lawsuit for equal pay before anybody else did. But then they all banded together and did their own and left her hanging out in the wind. She seems to have pulled her life together. Good for her. It was a really good documentary. Again, what a. What a life she's had. What a shitty life she came from. And she actually made quite a bit out of herself. Had problems, as all people do. And as pointed out many times in the documentary, had she been a male athlete, nobody would have gave a. What she did.
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Jason DeFilippo
Right? And. But then you gotta. You gotta admit, the name is just ironic. Come on. So the funny part about it was, though, as soon as I just. I only read the beginning of the headline, I'm like, oh, there's a new Solo spin off.
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Brian Schulmeister
Han Solo.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, yeah, Like Hope Solo. Is this the unknown daughter that he had? I was like, oh, great.
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Brian Schulmeister
And it was really weird, I have to say, watching this documentary the same week that Alex Morgan, another great US Soccer great, decided to retire. And the fanfare that she got because she toed the line versus Hope Solo, who did not, and got unceremoniously dumped completely and tried to. The Saga Federation basically treats her like she's dead. So there you go. Good luck. Also, Hope Solo, wish you well.
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Jason DeFilippo
Wish you well. On Sunday night, during the ceremony for the Creative Arts Emmy Awards, Alan Cumming took home the golden statue for the outstanding host for a Reality or Competition program category. For one of my Favorite shows. The Traitors. Yes. Been talking about that show for a year and a half now. Love that damn show on all continents. We just finished New Zealand season two. Hard to find, but well worth it. Hopefully you guys up in Canada will be doing a season two as well. Your first, your season, one of the traders was epically good. So.
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Brian Schulmeister
Okay, well, Canadians being mean is a tough sell.
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Jason DeFilippo
There were some good mean people on there, but even the villains were still nice. The fucked up thing about it. So the interesting thing here is he finally dethroned droned RuPaul, who had been. Who had just been on an eight year tear. So he's done by RuPaul. Okay, give it to Alan. Alan Cummings has been defrocked. Sashay away, RuPaul.
- [31:48]
Brian Schulmeister
I love it when you talk about these shows that I have just never, ever watched and never will. That's great.
- [31:53]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah. So you don't get my deep cuts. That's sad. No, I don't don't get my deep cuts.
- [31:56]
Brian Schulmeister
You probably say really funny things and I'm just like, huh, What?
- [31:59]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, I know. Nicole Kidman had a new series along with Liev Schreiber on Netflix this week called the Perfect Couple.
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Brian Schulmeister
Did they use AI to make her forehead move?
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Jason DeFilippo
No, they didn't. The funny thing is, the one thing we noticed what they did was they froze her hair, which they must have found a stash of Aquanet somewhere because her hair didn't move, I think to offset the fact that her face doesn't move anymore. So her face looked actually normal compared to her hair. But it was a fantastic murder mystery series. Highly recommended. It was fun. And if you read the book, it does not end like the book did. So it's a good show.
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Brian Schulmeister
Cool. She's actually in town right now or in Toronto, because we have tiff, which is the International Film Festival. Toronto International Film Festival. And everybody's in town right now.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah. No, I mean, I stood behind, or I stood behind Nicole Kidman at the ArcLight while we were getting movie tickets one day. And this was the old Nicole Kidman, the proper, unaugmented Nicole Kidman. She turned around to look at somebody and I made eye contact with her and I swear to God, my knees almost buckled. She's one of those people, she's like otherworldly, beautiful in person. It's just like, oh, that's why you get paid so much money. She was with some musician who I didn't care about, but you probably know who that is.
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Brian Schulmeister
She's been married to one for a Long time.
- [33:16]
Jason DeFilippo
That guy, whoever is. Yeah, yeah. He just looked at me like, stop looking at my wife. But anyway, I watched the first episode of Chaos last night. The Jeff Goldblum vehicle where he plays Zeus.
- [33:27]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah.
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Jason DeFilippo
Did you watch it yet?
- [33:29]
Brian Schulmeister
No.
- [33:30]
Jason DeFilippo
It's interesting.
- [33:32]
Brian Schulmeister
Okay.
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Jason DeFilippo
It's different from. The trailer. Looked amazing. And I, you know, I went in thinking it was going to be one show, but it turns out it's a different show than I was expecting. But I thoroughly enjoyed it.
- [33:43]
Brian Schulmeister
Okay.
- [33:44]
Jason DeFilippo
It's very good. I'm looking forward to watching more of them. I really am.
- [33:49]
Brian Schulmeister
I mean, it's intriguing as a concept.
- [33:52]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, it really is. And there's.
- [33:54]
Brian Schulmeister
They're.
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Jason DeFilippo
They're playing it off fairly well, too. It's. Yeah, five episodes ago, I think it's only six parter, but. And they're long, too. They're not short. They're like 50 minutes. Okay.
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Brian Schulmeister
One question, though, about Goldblum. And this is. This is. This is the only issue I have. I love Jeff Goldblum. I think Jeff Goldblum is a national treasure. Jeff Goldblum is just Jeff Goldblum. Now, is he just Jeff Goldblum in this or is he actually acting?
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Jason DeFilippo
He's acting like Jeff Goldblum playing Zeus.
- [34:20]
Brian Schulmeister
Okay.
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Jason DeFilippo
But it fits. It really fits in this.
- [34:23]
Brian Schulmeister
All right. All right.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah. So basically, Zeus is an asshole, and Jeff Goldblum, basically, if you don't love Jeff Goldblum, is an asshole. So he's kind of playing himself, playing an asshole. But it comes off really well.
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Brian Schulmeister
Okay. I'll give it a shot. Why not?
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah. No, I recommend it so far. After one episode, I recommend it. So if you want to wait till next week, I'll give you the full rundown. The Penguin dropped a new trailer for a new series on Max, which looks unbelievably good.
- [34:53]
Brian Schulmeister
I checked it out. It looked interesting. It did remind me that I need to go back and finish Teen Titans, which I was enjoying on Max.
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Jason DeFilippo
Looks good. I mean, it looks. Looks beautiful. So we'll see how it goes.
- [35:03]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, we'll see how it goes.
- [35:04]
Jason DeFilippo
And you're a Stephen King fan, so you might enjoy this one. The new Salem's Lot trailer dropped yesterday. Did you get a chance to check that one out?
- [35:12]
Brian Schulmeister
I did. It looks pretty good. I am a big fan of Stephen King, and I feel like Salem's Lot has been made like 19 times, but this one looks like one of the better ones. It's definitely been one of the adaptations that has been more missed than hit.
- [35:26]
Jason DeFilippo
Oh, I've only seen the original one. The original adaptation. And that one scared the shit out of me when I was a kid. I still remember that one. And I think, unfortunately, this trailer, they give you way too much in the trailer, but it hits all the creepy notes from the original. So it's like, oh, yeah, I remember why I was so fucking scared. And it's good, though they don't do a reveal on Mr. Barlow, so I'm very curious how they play that, because Mr. Barlow and the original Salem's Thought was fucking terrifying. So at least when I was a kid, I don't want to go back and find out if it has legs, because I like the feels that I have from that one.
- [36:02]
Brian Schulmeister
You know, that's how I feel about, like, the early 90s adaptation of it. Like, I liked it, but I'm sure if I went back and watched it, it'd be horrible.
- [36:10]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, Yeah. I didn't. I didn't even. Like, I remember watching the first one, and then the second one just was. I'm like, there's a big bug. I don't care. But Tim Curry was great in it. Come on. Yeah, it was Tim Curry.
- [36:22]
Brian Schulmeister
I mean, you know, it's also Stephen King. You're working with some prime source material, so.
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Jason DeFilippo
Well, you know, we're both hit and miss on Stephen King. I am a huge fan of Thinner and Salem's Lot, so those are the ones that I enjoy. But The Penguin drops, September 19, Salem's Lot, October 3.
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Brian Schulmeister
All right, very cool. Tears for Fears have announced their first live album ever, Hard to Believe Songs for a Nervous Planet. And this includes four new songs that they've recorded in the studio, which will be the first four tracks on the record when it comes out. There is also going to be a concert film, which I'm actually kind of excited about. Tears for Fears is one of those bands that, you know, if you grew up in Southern California listening to kroc, you got Mighty Sick, A Shout and Everybody Wants to Rule the World. But if you delve into their catalog a bit, my God, they're such a great band. And having seen them live. I never saw them live back in the day, but they did headline that Darker Waves festival that I went to last year.
- [37:21]
Jason DeFilippo
Oh, yeah.
- [37:22]
Brian Schulmeister
Holy. They're good live. Really, unbelievably good lives. So if you're a fan at all, I think this is going to be worth checking out. Certainly listening to the. The live album and definitely, maybe even checking out the. Checking out the live film, because I do remember they had some really good visuals however, if you have not seen the band or a photo of the band since the 80s, you might want to skip the live bit.
- [37:46]
Jason DeFilippo
Okay. Yeah.
- [37:48]
Brian Schulmeister
Boy, are they old.
- [37:50]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah. Oh, yeah, I have not. I just, I remember them from the videos. That's about it. So, yeah, I kind of had that reaction too when I saw Flock of Seagulls live. I was just like, oh, don't have that hairdo anymore, do you, bud? Don't have that hair anymore. Getting old sucks.
- [38:12]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, it's a drag.
- [38:14]
Jason DeFilippo
Ups and doodads. Brian, last episode I mentioned, well, I tried to mention an app called Fruit Juice about battery health. I couldn't remember what it was at the time, so I went and I looked and it has been running on my computers forever, like well over a decade. The thing about Fruit Juice is it was discontinued two years ago.
- [38:34]
Brian Schulmeister
Yep.
- [38:35]
Jason DeFilippo
And it's still been running on my computer just fine. But I'm like, okay, you know what though? I don't really need it that much anymore, so I uninstalled it. But yeah, it's still out there.
- [38:46]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah. And it may not make it through the next OS update, so.
- [38:49]
Jason DeFilippo
Actually it did just fine because on my air, I've been running the new OS for a month now and it was going just fine. And the new os, by the way, is awesome. Yeah, you can. I don't know if it's released to everybody yet, but you can just go get the public beta now and you'll get the final Golden Master release if you want.
- [39:10]
Brian Schulmeister
Okay, maybe I'll do it.
- [39:13]
Jason DeFilippo
It's great. Actually. No, Brian, you're not allowed to do it.
- [39:15]
Brian Schulmeister
Oh, that's right, I can't do it.
- [39:17]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, no, you're not allowed to do it because you do audio stuff now and I'd like to have a show next week. So. Yeah, the guys who did Fruit Juice moved on to a new company which basically allows you to download videos from all the major social players. I think it's called 4K Tucket. 4K Download is the main company, but you can download TikTok videos with their 4K Tokkit app, which I've never actually seen one that could download TikTok video. So that actually is not bad if you need to get that in a pinch. I haven't been on TikTok in ages though. Thank God. Crack. Crack. So I was up the ass crack of dawn this morning. See what I did there at 5am for me, because I got my iPhone 16 pre order in.
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Brian Schulmeister
Of course you did.
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Jason DeFilippo
What do you mean of course I did? This is my first phone in three years, dude. I'm running old school. I want a three year update cycle only because my dad's phone. Because he gets my old phone and his phone is aging out and he needs a new one. So I couldn't. If it was up to me, I would have skipped this one altogether.
- [40:24]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah.
- [40:25]
Jason DeFilippo
But I'm just like. But he needed a phone. And I'm like, okay, well, I'll give him my 13. Because my 13 pro's got several more years left in it because it's like in mint condition. It's got a terabyte of storage on it, and it works great. Fast as hell. The only difference is it uses the old lightning connector and everything is USB C now. But they do this very smart thing. Now. They may have done this for a while, but like I said, it's been three years since I did it. They let you just put in all of your everything basically into your cart and just save it till 5am on 5am Pacific on launch day. So my alarm went off and they're like, hey, go get it. And I'm like, okay, open up the Apple Store app on my phone. It's like, just hang tight. We're not ready yet. And I just kept like falling back asleep. And I'd open my eyes a little bit, see the little dancing apple. And then I finally opened my eyes and it's like, hey, press the button and get your pre order. I'm like, okay, press the button. Done. So like the old days, I remember you had to go through and do the whole cart spiel as it opened.
- [41:23]
Brian Schulmeister
Up, and then to build it in real time.
- [41:26]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, if you weren't fast enough, then, you know, you were three weeks out, four weeks out. So I get mine on Friday. So a week from today, I get my new phone. So we'll see how it is. I did the old guy thing though. This time, Brian. It sucks. I went the Max. I got the big one.
- [41:43]
Brian Schulmeister
Oh, yeah. So I like it. I've gotten really used to the Max. I don't. I don't have the Pro. I just have the Max. And I've just gotten used to the size. And especially me, you know, we're old. But also, like, with my work and with everything I do now, I don't have to get my laptop out half the time. So it's. I can just work off the phone. And with the max, it's so much easier.
- [42:02]
Jason DeFilippo
That's the thing. It's like I, you know, I've got my iPad mini sitting around which I use for a lot of stuff during the day and when I used to have a Max phone and I ended up putting my mini in the closet because it was like it's so close to the mini size because it's so fucking big.
- [42:17]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah.
- [42:18]
Jason DeFilippo
And. But I just didn't. Don't like it in my pocket. That was always the thing. It's just too fucking big for my pocket. But I'm going blind so I need a bigger phone. I just can't handle the small one anymore. But the size of the standard Pro is so nice. But.
- [42:32]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah.
- [42:32]
Jason DeFilippo
So. Yeah.
- [42:34]
Brian Schulmeister
Well, you're old.
- [42:35]
Jason DeFilippo
Old shit. Yeah.
- [42:36]
Brian Schulmeister
Speaking of old shit.
- [42:37]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah. Apple just got authorized for AirPods two hearing aid features from the FDA.
- [42:42]
Brian Schulmeister
That's amazing.
- [42:43]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah. It's been all over the news that they were going to put the features in, but they were announcing it before the FDA approval. But the FDA approval just came in. Right on time. So the downside is I don't have AirPods Pro 2s, so I'm not My.
- [42:59]
Brian Schulmeister
Ones, I'm not quite ready to needing it. But I love the fact that this is there. I mean it's so much cheaper and it's less, less. It just looks cooler. You know, again, like just, you know, we're all just little kids at heart. We don't want people to know that. That our lunch is being subsidized. We don't want people to know we're wearing hearing aids. But if I can just have my AirPods in, nobody's going to really know because everybody's a dick now and wears them 247 anyways.
- [43:23]
Jason DeFilippo
Exactly. We've been, we've been having a fight with my roommate's 96 year old mom for years now and she won't do hearing aids. She won't do hearing aids. And I'm like, like she might wear AirPods. So we're going to check it out. She said she sent her the article. So we'll see if we can get her some AirPods Pros. She's already got an iPhone and she loves her iPhone, so this might be the thing. We'll see. I don't know. I could use them in very many situations. I have reverted to closed captions on TV now for a lot of things.
- [43:54]
Brian Schulmeister
I end up doing that just because the sound editing is so shit on most TV shows. Now. Now.
- [43:59]
Jason DeFilippo
Isn't it though?
- [44:00]
Brian Schulmeister
It is. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It is not just being old. It is dialogue is so low. And then the explosion shakes your fucking house.
- [44:09]
Jason DeFilippo
And there's those switches you can put on your tv. Like, you know, the dialogue enhancer. Like prioritize dialogue that don't fucking work.
- [44:15]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah. And if I'm.
- [44:16]
Jason DeFilippo
The whole thing is low, you know.
- [44:18]
Brian Schulmeister
And I'm trying to watch TV and my, my kid is asleep and my wife is up sleep upstairs. Like I. If there's going to be an explosion, the entire house is going to wake up because I've had it cranked to hear the damn dialogue.
- [44:29]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, the thing that I do now is just I watch everything on the Apple TV and I just pump it through my AirPods.
- [44:36]
Brian Schulmeister
Yep.
- [44:37]
Jason DeFilippo
And that's, that's the only way to really kind of get around because I've got a fire TV and the fire TV sucks for any kind of volume adjustment because half the shows with this shitty audio are on Amazon Prime. Yeah, those guys really, they spend all this money on talent acquisition. Hire a sound editor, you know, somebody who's worth a shit. It.
- [44:55]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, it's just gotten really bad. So I, I'm not surprised. Like, I put on captioning too.
- [45:00]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, we. We definitely had to do it with the perfect couple. There was. They were mumbling. That's the other thing. People mumble more.
- [45:07]
Brian Schulmeister
Right?
- [45:08]
Jason DeFilippo
Mumblers. Well, this is interesting. I had, I bought a Flipper zero a while back that's been sitting in a drawer because I'm not a hacker anymore and I was. I don't know why I bought the damn thing. Oh, wait, I was probably drunk before I quit drinking. Actually, I think that was. Yeah, it was before I got sober I bought this damn thing. But they finally released their first Firmware version, version 1.0, the major, major release. We've introduced dynamic app loading support. Now you can install hundreds of community developed apps from the app's catalog. And they've got a new NFC subsystem which is completely rewritten from scratch, resulting in significant increase in card reading speeds, new NFC card type support, and a new plugin system for user card parsers, new JavaScript support, and better battery life. And the great part is you can do all this stuff from the app on your phone instead of having to plug it into a computer. So. Okay, I want to check out some of these apps. Since I've got the thing, I might as well see if I can break into someplace without.
- [46:08]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, I'm curious what these apps are, what their app store is exactly.
- [46:13]
Jason DeFilippo
Well, that's what. But because I got the thing and I'm Like, I really don't. I'm not a security professional, so I don't know. I don't have any ideas on where to start. So maybe looking at the apps will give me some ideas of what kind of top story I can get up to with the damn thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing I'm eyeballing the most is the parking mechanism at the office that I pay $70 a month for. I'm like, can I just walk by somebody in the hallway and scan their cards so I can get in and out for free?
- [46:40]
Brian Schulmeister
Probably.
- [46:40]
Jason DeFilippo
Nice. Yeah. Because I know that the maintenance lady has a MasterCard, because with the card we pay for, you can only do one in and one out. You can't do multiple ins and multiple outs because, well, you used to. But we obviously abused the privilege and they took it away from us. So, yeah, hopefully I can scan her card with it and then just be able to slide in and out, but, you know, I'm not going to do that, so don't try and sue me if it happens.
- [47:08]
Brian Schulmeister
This is all theoretical.
- [47:09]
Jason DeFilippo
Theoretical.
- [47:11]
Brian Schulmeister
This is a show for entertainment purposes only.
- [47:14]
Jason DeFilippo
This is a thought experiment. Thought experiment. Now here's one that pisses me off. Audible narrators to create voice replicas using AI. Yeah.
- [47:27]
Dave Buettner
Shocking.
- [47:28]
Jason DeFilippo
To lower publication costs and speed up the release of audiobooks, Amazon's Audible will begin inviting a small group of narrators to create replicas of their own voice using AI generated speech technology. I wasn't invited, so fuck you on all the levels. So invite me or stop letting everybody do it. Come on. Did you bring enough gum for everybody?
- [47:49]
Brian Schulmeister
Joey, I don't like this unless I'm involved.
- [47:52]
Jason DeFilippo
Exactly. Can I make some money off of it? Nobody's hiring me to do audiobooks anymore, so I might as well see if anybody wants to hire my disembodied AI voice.
- [48:02]
Brian Schulmeister
Well, speaking of AI voice, I found this one really interesting. Google's AI powered research tool, Notebook lm, can now turn your materials you want to pour over into a podcast like Audio Discussion.
- [48:14]
Jason DeFilippo
Great.
- [48:14]
Brian Schulmeister
It's a new feature called Audio Overview, which takes information from documents you've uploaded and then generates a deep dive discussion between two AI hosts. Jason, we have a task for next week. We are going to upload our notes into Audio Overview and see what it comes back back with. And we will put out both shows. Both shows side by side. And if the other one's better, we're done.
- [48:39]
Jason DeFilippo
We're done.
- [48:41]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah. So based on the example the company posted with its announcement, the AI host sounded human enough to listen to, though you could still determine that the voices were AI generated from inflections and odd pronunciations of certain words. And Google does admit that it still has limitations. This is an experimental stage release. The host can only speak English at this time and they sometimes say inaccurate, which means you will have to double check your material and ensure that you didn't learn something that's not factual.
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Jason DeFilippo
Just like our show.
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Brian Schulmeister
Well, just like our show, yes, but also somewhat self defeating of the purpose in that the whole idea behind this is some people learn better by listening rather than reading. So if you upload all your material, this thing might generate and then you're not learning.
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Jason DeFilippo
Welcome to A.I.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yep, pretty much.
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Jason DeFilippo
I was looking at the articles on Engadget about this thing. They linked to an old one and the subtitle is A death note of your very own. Except without all the cool supernatural assassin bits. Then it's not a fucking death note.
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Brian Schulmeister
Sorry.
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Jason DeFilippo
And Gadget Gizmodo eats your lunch when it comes to articles nowadays.
- [49:52]
Brian Schulmeister
Pretty much.
- [49:52]
Jason DeFilippo
Okay, well, we got. Is this out yet? Can we try it now?
- [49:55]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, it's out. We can try it.
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Jason DeFilippo
All right, we're doing this. We're going to dump all of our notes. We'll take our notes from this week and dump them in and see how it. How it fares.
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Brian Schulmeister
Okay, we'll put that like, let's put. If we can download the file, we'll put it up on Patreon as an exclusive.
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Jason DeFilippo
Okay, Sounds good. Sounds good. In Japan, a 31 year old man faces up to two years in prison for secretly filming over 1000 women. That is more than one binder full of women at a hot springs using a homemade camera disguised as a rock. Now, I don't know if you've seen a picture of this thing. It doesn't look like a rock. It looks like a giant cow turd. But the man from Fukushima. There's a. There's a title for you. The man from Fukushima was caught after a woman noticed a reflection from the rock camera at a hot spring in Yamagata. He had been disguising himself as a hiker and used camouflage to avoid detection. Okay. The man admitted to his crimes, revealing he used a telephoto lens to capture images of women both bathing and changing. The prosecution is pushing for over a two year sentence, citing the premeditated and extensive nature of his offenses. Yep, we'll find out how he fares on September 17th.
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Brian Schulmeister
Perv's gonna perv.
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Jason DeFilippo
But it wasn't a rock. And finally, music industries 1990s hard drives, like all hard drives, are dying. Yes. In a stark warning for the media industry, enterprise storage company Iron Mountain reports that around 20% of hard drives from the 1990s are now complet unreadable. The music industry, which relies heavily on digital archives, is particularly vulnerable. According to Iron Mountain's Robert Cozella, this isn't just a sales pitch, it's a call to action. While hard drives replaced older magnetic tape formats due to issues like deterioration, they bring their own risks. Like not fucking working. Yeah, no, you're going to have to, you're going to have to do this over and over again. As storage mediums evolve, you know, know we moved away from floppies. Well, some people did. Most governments still have them somewhere, but yeah, you gotta. I mean, at least they didn't store it on cdrs. Or did they, Brian? You tell me.
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Brian Schulmeister
They probably did. That's the thing. And there's just no, there's no upside and there's no budget for doing all this sort of stuff, for doing the maintenance and for doing the archiving. There's, you know, fuck, man, people don't care until they care. When all of a sudden the masters are completely gone and you can't go back and do your remastered version and whatever bullshit new spatial audio format has next, that's when they all of a sudden care.
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Jason DeFilippo
So then the engineers are on Napster trying to find an old version somebody stole in the 90s.
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Brian Schulmeister
We'll rip the instrumental from the karaoke CD that we bought off Amazon and go from there.
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Jason DeFilippo
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- [56:00]
Brian Schulmeister
Dave.
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Jason DeFilippo
Welcome to the Dark side with Dave with podcast super host Dave Buettner. Dave is the host of the Cyberwire podcast for all your cybersecurity news, the co host of Hacking Humans with Joe Kerrigan discussing how humans are mean, the co host of Caveat with Ben Yellen because people are nosy and the host of Control Loop because industrial machines have feelings too, as well as the what was the Sidekick co host buddy in residence for only malware in the building Participant. Okay. Participant just doesn't have that ring to it. That.
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Dave Buettner
No, no, that's the trophy that I got all through elementary, middle, and high school. Got a participation trophy. My athletic.
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Jason DeFilippo
You're Gen X.
- [56:40]
Brian Schulmeister
How did you get.
- [56:40]
Jason DeFilippo
We.
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Brian Schulmeister
We were pre.
- [56:42]
Jason DeFilippo
Participation trophy. You guys must have been on the cutting edge.
- [56:45]
Dave Buettner
I don't know. Maybe that was an east coast thing. I don't know.
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Brian Schulmeister
Pilot program.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah. Yeah.
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Dave Buettner
I just. I. Yeah. I will tell you, any of the trophies I got, they were not championship trophies.
- [56:55]
Jason DeFilippo
So ditto, brother. Ditto the trophy.
- [56:59]
Brian Schulmeister
Case of shame.
- [57:00]
Dave Buettner
Yeah.
- [57:02]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah.
- [57:03]
Brian Schulmeister
Well, we. We lost somebody pretty big this week. James Earl Jones, distinguished actor and voice of Darth Vader, has died at 93 and is. I mean, spawned a thousand memes and obviously very sad, but 93 is pretty good. I. Of note, of course, is the fact that everybody immediately posted out that we have lost all of the original Darth Vader, the actor that actually was in the suit, the voice, and the Sebastian Shaw whose face was unmasked in Return of the Jedi.
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Dave Buettner
Yeah. I mean, boy, the. The term legend really does apply to James Earl Jones, obviously. The stuff. I mean, like most of us, I guess, I. He first came to my attention as the voice of Darth Vader, and only later did I learn about his career on Broadway and movies and, you know, all those kinds of things that he was the real deal and legit and. And, of course, Mufasa. Yep.
- [57:58]
Brian Schulmeister
Which is my. How my son first heard him. So I was very confused when Darth Vader had the same V. Oh, that's interesting.
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Dave Buettner
I had the good fortune one time back in my video career, there was a show about the renovation of the Washington Monument, and we had been hired to do all of the 3D animation and graphics for this particular show. It was a show that ran on Discovery Channel, and the show is narrated by James Earl Jones. So needless to say, that clip went on my reel. Right. To have his voice on your demo reel was just amazing. So it really was one of the thrills and highlights of that part of my career. To have your work with his voice on it was just, you know, it doesn't get any better than that. So he'll be missed. And I did, you know, spared a. Spared a thought for him. It was. It was sad to hear he was gone.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, I. I felt the same way that you did about having him on your reel as when I had him on my Garmin GPS and driving around in the early days.
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Dave Buettner
Yes, right, right.
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Brian Schulmeister
Although I don't believe it was actually him. But yes, somebody who tried to sound remarkably like him was giving me directions. Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, he will be missed.
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Jason DeFilippo
And he did sign the rights over to Disney to use his voice, so we'll still be hearing him. The future.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, it was. Well, actually, that's a little unclear. I need to delve into that a little bit more. I know he signed the rights over for Rogue. He did. He, he allowed that. I don't know if it was carte blanche for all future projects across all eternity, etc. Much like a story that you actually just pulled, Jason, from the show notes. It is a little unclear. We don't know the exact legalities on that yet. Yet. So. But why wouldn't he have just signed it over? Just like, do you know, use me for Darth Vader, whatever. Have fun.
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Dave Buettner
Right, right, right. How many, how many years could I possibly have left? Here's another little nest egg for my loved ones. Yeah, why not?
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Brian Schulmeister
Why not?
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Dave Buettner
Yeah.
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Brian Schulmeister
And speaking of Disney news, because Star wars is owned by Disney. I saw this article and I thought that you might get a. Get a kick out of this, Dave. And you too, Jason. It's over. From the Hollywood Reporter. It's a cult. And Waltz the Messiah. Meet the couple who sued Disney. Overse secretive Club 33. Now mostly this is angry white people complaining, but there are a lot of like nuggets into club. Into some Disney lore and what Club 33 actually is and all the perks that you get. And this is all well known to me having grown up in Southern California by Disneyland itself where you know news about Club 33 and, and conjecture and talking about it and finding out little bits of pieces of it was a waste, you know, primetime entertainment for us hanging out there. So we, we knew an awful lot of this stuff. But if you didn't know anything about what Club 33 is, this is a fun read.
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Dave Buettner
Yeah. Did you guys ever have any like planned capers for how to secretly sneak into Club 33 on your radar?
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Brian Schulmeister
We were always trying to figure it out. Supposedly there was a, there was an elevator that you could get to near the bathrooms in the Blue Bayou. If you could get in there, that might take you up there and you didn't need, you know, this is back in the early days where you didn't need like a car key, key card or anything like that, but never made it, no matter how hard we tried. So.
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Dave Buettner
Yeah.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah.
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Jason DeFilippo
Wait, did you say key card?
- [61:26]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah.
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Jason DeFilippo
I can take my flipper Zero Disney now. There you go. We have found, we have Found the answer for the use for the flipper zero. We're going to break into clip 33.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yes.
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Jason DeFilippo
This story was all over the news here this week. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. It was everywhere. And everybody's like, these people are suing so they can get back in. What the hell's wrong with these people?
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, right.
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Dave Buettner
Who's going to want them?
- [61:51]
Jason DeFilippo
Well, that's the point. Yeah.
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Brian Schulmeister
They ended up getting kicked out because the dude got drunk and was, like, passed out at somewhere else in the park from all the drinking he did in Club 33. And then I guess the wife dropped the F bomb a couple million times when they tried to cut them off from the booze. Because, you know, you're going out to Disneyland.
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Dave Buettner
Yeah.
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Brian Schulmeister
You're not supposed to get fucking wasted here, people.
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Jason DeFilippo
That's how I got kicked out of Disney World. So it tracks well.
- [62:16]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, me too as well. I had been kicked out of Disneyland in my youth for being noticeably. Well, we were all having a very, very good time, let's just say.
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Jason DeFilippo
I think. I think I was 35, 17.
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Dave Buettner
So, you know, I mean, it's all relative. It's a relative youth now.
- [62:31]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, true. It killed to be 35 again.
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Dave Buettner
Right?
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah.
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Dave Buettner
Now, my wife pointed out that particularly at Disneyland, which doesn't serve alcohol. Yeah. The fact that Club 33 does made it even that more elite and also means that the security at Disneyland is even more tuned into people being inebriated.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah. A little less so these days because you can get all the booze you want over California Adventure. And if you've got a park hopper, you load up a California Adventure, then head over to the main park.
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Dave Buettner
Right. Stumble your way across the plaza.
- [63:08]
Brian Schulmeister
Kids these days don't know how good they have it.
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Dave Buettner
That's right.
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Brian Schulmeister
I had to hide my vodka in the plants.
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Dave Buettner
Oh, that's great. Yeah. I say my wife was all over the story as well. It's a funny thing to aspire to. I suppose I can understand for certain folks who are into this kind of status, this particular flavor of status, having an elite status and to rub elbows with famous people. This story points out that I guess Tom Hanks would book the place for Thanksgiving.
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Brian Schulmeister
Which. Which.
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Dave Buettner
That tracks. I mean, why not? Why wouldn't you? Right? Right.
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Brian Schulmeister
I mean, you're Woody, for God's sake. I'm sure they're not charging you the premium for it.
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Dave Buettner
Right? Right. The other thing that I'd never considered with a Club 33 membership was this article talks about all the stuff that they get, like 100 tickets to the park and exclusive merchandise and that a lot of folks will use. They'll sell that stuff off to help finance the club membership, which is very expensive.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yes.
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Dave Buettner
So that makes sense, I suppose. It's the kind of place, to me, it seems like. Kind of like having a friend who has an expensive boat. It's better to have a friend with an expensive boat than to have an expensive boat.
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Brian Schulmeister
Agreed.
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Dave Buettner
And I would feel the same about this, where I would love to be a guest at Club 33 for the experience and to find out what it was like and. But I wouldn't actually want a membership.
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Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, I'm with you. I feel the same way about the Magic Castle.
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Jason DeFilippo
I was going to say the same thing. You beat me to it, you bastard.
- [64:52]
Brian Schulmeister
I was actually. I was thrilled that I have friends that are members. So I'm able to go on the very rare, once a every other decade chance that I would like to go to the Magic Castle. But if I had the membership myself, I'd probably shoot myself in the head.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah.
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Dave Buettner
You know, when my wife and I were on our honeymoon, which included a stop at Disneyland, we did a. Like a West coast drive. Started in San Francisco, drove down the coast. One of our stops along the way was to a relative who lived in la, and we had lunch together at the Friars Club.
- [65:23]
Brian Schulmeister
Oh, yeah, I've been there as well. Yeah.
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Dave Buettner
Yeah. So that was neat. And the Friars Club was kind of like looking around and going, is that someone from vaudeville? Was that. Like, is that. Was that. You know, and again, it is back in time.
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Brian Schulmeister
Going in there. It's insane.
- [65:39]
Dave Buettner
Yeah, right, right. But, yeah, neat experience. I wanted to touch. I know you guys have talked about this earlier in the show, but I thought I would chime in here because I ordered my iPhone today.
- [65:53]
Brian Schulmeister
Once again, I am the cheese stands alone. I did not.
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Dave Buettner
Okay, well, I had my phone standing by and the App Store app was open, and it would say, any minute now. Aren't you getting excited? Any minute now. Did you go through any of that, Jason?
- [66:08]
Jason DeFilippo
Oh, yeah, no, same thing. I just kept falling back asleep and opened one eye a little bit and see if it was.
- [66:13]
Dave Buettner
Oh, that's right. It was really early in the morning for you.
- [66:17]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, it was five in the morning.
- [66:18]
Dave Buettner
Right. For me, it was a little more reasonable 8:00 in the morning for us here. So I pressed the button and I guess a week from now, I'll be the proud owner of a new iPhone pro. Max. Yeah. So there you go. I'm on it every Other year, how.
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Jason DeFilippo
Big did you go on the hard drive? How big?
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Dave Buettner
256. 256.
- [66:44]
Jason DeFilippo
Oh, God.
- [66:45]
Dave Buettner
Which is plenty for me. I mean, I paint well.
- [66:48]
Brian Schulmeister
Jason scoffs at you.
- [66:50]
Jason DeFilippo
I scoff.
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Dave Buettner
I only use about half that, so. And I think a big. I think a big part of that is that I have my system set up to automatically offload my photos to Google Photos. And so that keeps the photos from clogging up the system and all that kind of thing. Yeah, I looked at it and I thought, should this be the year that I go with a bigger storage thing? But I looked and I'm only using about half of the 256 I have on the phone that I have. So if it were closer than that, I'd probably go bigger. But that's what I'm. That's what I'm going with, so.
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Jason DeFilippo
All right.
- [67:34]
Dave Buettner
Yeah, Got the big phone with the cool stuff. Yeah. So I'm looking forward to the slightly longer telephoto on the zoom lens. As I say, I'm on a two. I'm on an every other year upgrade cycle, so I have the 3x lens on the phone that I have now, so the 5x will the better. I do a lot of wildlife photography. You know, my home's right near a park, so there's all kinds of critters that are like to take pictures.
- [68:01]
Jason DeFilippo
So lots of turtles.
- [68:02]
Dave Buettner
Yeah, exactly. So having that extra reach is a nice thing to have on the phone, but other than that, you know, it'll just be a little nicer, a little bigger, little faster, little. Little more of everything, and that's fine, you know.
- [68:16]
Brian Schulmeister
And you guys will be able to use all the Apple AI when it comes out, right?
- [68:20]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, soon. Soon. Yeah, yeah. Now I got. Yeah, I got the 16 Pro Max, but I got the terabyte because.
- [68:28]
Dave Buettner
Oh, wow.
- [68:28]
Jason DeFilippo
Use it for stuff. I have a 13 Pro with a terabyte and I use 800 gig of that already. So.
- [68:35]
Dave Buettner
On what?
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Jason DeFilippo
Photos, videos and music. I don't do the streaming. I have my music library on my phone, which is about 300 gigabytes right there. My photo library is another 300 gig just for iPhoto stuff, not including video stuff, because I make sure to keep originals on the phone and upload to iphoto as well. Because I don't trust one of. I need both of them. I need some kind of backup and I don't trust Google Photos. I used Google Photos for a while and I just. I did not like it. Just their system. I just did not like. I like the search feature on it, but the syncing I always thought was janky because I've got so many devices, so I trust everything to the device and the backups.
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Dave Buettner
Yeah, that's fair enough. I mean, I will say one time not long ago, I was messing around with some of the recently added video recording features, like being able to record basically what RAW video and super high data rate and color and all that kind of stuff.
- [69:41]
Jason DeFilippo
It goes fast.
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Dave Buettner
Well, that's the thing. I opened up the window and I was like, oh, well, hey, let's record maximum resolution, maximum data rate and let's just see what this is like. And it was like, congratulations, you can record for three minutes.
- [69:52]
Jason DeFilippo
Yep, that's it. Okay.
- [69:54]
Dave Buettner
Wow. So that was a consideration when I was thinking whether or not to go with more memory, but you know, those days are behind me.
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Jason DeFilippo
Yeah. And the thing about the new ones is if you really care, you can just plug in a USB C drive and stick it to the back of it. Right?
- [70:13]
Dave Buettner
Yeah. Which is amazing.
- [70:14]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah. I've got. I've got a little cage, a small rig cage for mine that allows you to clip that on. But on the 13 Pro that I've got, it wasn't really that much of an issue. But I'm looking forward to actually trying that with the new one, so. And I'm looking forward to the high res wide angle is what I use. You use mostly telephoto, but I use mostly wide angle. So it'd be nice to have the, you know, the full res wide angle camera.
- [70:36]
Dave Buettner
Okay.
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Jason DeFilippo
That's what I'm looking forward too.
- [70:38]
Dave Buettner
Yeah. So, yeah, incremental.
- [70:41]
Jason DeFilippo
Yep. Definitely going from a 13 to that. I think I'm going to see a decent, decent upgrade, so.
- [70:48]
Dave Buettner
Oh yeah, yeah.
- [70:48]
Jason DeFilippo
Looking forward to that. And then my next phone will be the iPhone 19 because I'd do the three years, but.
- [70:54]
Dave Buettner
You do three years? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [70:57]
Jason DeFilippo
So a little overcast follow up. Since we have taken overcast to task so many times, I have switched back to it for now because they've made enough changes to make it usable enough for me. Me.
- [71:08]
Dave Buettner
Okay.
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Jason DeFilippo
And I put in some screenshots for you guys of my settings on how I set things up because I basically run everything through a single playlist which puts everything in chronological order as it should be easy to get to. I still hate that there's a podcast list on the homepage which really sucks because it shouldn't be there. In my opinion. There's a way to turn off the actual list of Podcasts at the top. So I turn that off. Off, and then just under the playlist settings. It's pretty easy. You can just sort newest to oldest, include all matching episodes, which is everything, and exclude from one podcast that won't. For some reason, Overcast won't let me delete. It's like some bug in there. But you can also set priority if you want a new show that comes in that make sure that it's always bounced to the top. It works pretty well, I think at this point. The interface is still janky, but it's like. Like it gets me back to kind of enough to where I need to be and lets me upload files. So, yeah, it's good enough. It still sucks compared to what it was.
- [72:11]
Brian Schulmeister
But I'm with you, Jason. It's. I tried a couple other podcast players. I was going to settle and just stick with Apple podcasts because nothing else was really working. And then I saw that there was another update to Overcast. I switched back to it. I figured out how to do the basic things that I want to do. And it's fine. It's. I still wish it was the older version. I wish we hadn't gone through all of this, but it's fine.
- [72:36]
Dave Buettner
Yeah, I canceled my subscription and deleted the app.
- [72:40]
Brian Schulmeister
All right, Hard.
- [72:41]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, I canceled my subscription, had the app deleted, then I reinstalled the app and my account was still there, so it resynced back up, and then I just put the subscription back up because I do need to upload. Upload files to it every now and again. So.
- [72:53]
Dave Buettner
Okay, that's.
- [72:54]
Jason DeFilippo
That's the only thing. That's the only reason I have the subscriptions, because I need to upload files. So. Yeah, but it gets the job done. What are you. What are you sticking with Apple podcasts.
- [73:03]
Dave Buettner
For the moment, And I'm. I'm just not thinking about it very much. You know, it's. I know what I want to listen to. There's only a handful of podcasts that I listen to religiously, so it's not hard for me to manage that. What it's sort of taken away from me are the deeper cuts of when I was just scrolling through and going, oh, let me check that out. I haven't listened to that in a while, those sorts of things. But for now, it's fine. I'm not. Again, I'm just not focused on it. So I'm going to let some time pass and reevaluate how I want to approach it. I don't think I'm Going to go back to overcast just because the bad taste in my mouth for the way of trust. Right. It was just the way it was handled and that. That this app was released the way it was. The degree to which it was broken and yet announced with such fanfare just leaves you.
- [74:01]
Brian Schulmeister
It almost reminds you of Sonos.
- [74:04]
Dave Buettner
I think some real parallels there. Yeah. So, yeah, that's where I am right now. But I reserve the right to change my mind and we'll see. If truly there is nothing better out there, when I decide that I'm going to dig in and really discover what a good option for me is, then, you know, I'll check it out. I know lots of people have recommended pocket casts. I haven't really looked at that yet.
- [74:32]
Brian Schulmeister
I tried it. Didn't like it.
- [74:33]
Jason DeFilippo
Did not like it.
- [74:34]
Dave Buettner
Yeah, yeah. It seems to be one that people either really like or they are not so much. So I think, you know, maybe it has a getting used to period of time, but we'll see. I said it's just not a priority right now. But I did. I left the app on my phone for a while and I was monitoring the upgrades and seeing what people were saying. There is an overcast Reddit group and I was reading things in there and I was just sitting on my couch one day and I was like, screw this.
- [75:11]
Jason DeFilippo
It takes way too much time for something that should be a little app that works, which is what it used to do. Yeah. How much time did we dedicate to this shit?
- [75:21]
Brian Schulmeister
Give me a list of the podcasts that have new episodes and put it on my homepage and that's it. Let me get on with my life. That's all I need this app for. That's it.
- [75:32]
Dave Buettner
No, it's too bad it's a cautionary.
- [75:35]
Jason DeFilippo
Because podcast players are just MP3 players. It's not that difficult. Just don't. Whatever.
- [75:41]
Dave Buettner
Yeah.
- [75:41]
Jason DeFilippo
Anyway, I got a little follow up on a little Poo follow up.
- [75:44]
Dave Buettner
Oh, goody.
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Jason DeFilippo
A new health campaign from Australia's Queensland Department of Health is titled it's okay to poo at work. How would you feel the one day when you're sitting in your office in the Department of Health going, yeah, we're here to solve the next great health emergencies. And your boss comes in and say, here you go, Joe. This is what you're working on today.
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Dave Buettner
Good news, gentlemen. Yeah, right, right.
- [76:07]
Jason DeFilippo
Yeah, you get the poo campaign. So this is a new campaign that is addressing the anxiety many feel about using public bathrooms. The initiative highlights a condition known as parkopresis or shy bowel, where individuals experience significant stress about using public restrooms due to fear of judgment or scrutiny. So just thought, my fear of using.
- [76:31]
Brian Schulmeister
Public toilets is not based on shival. It's based on cleanliness and user experience.
- [76:39]
Jason DeFilippo
And doors.
- [76:40]
Brian Schulmeister
And doors. And, I don't know, clean the fucking things every now and then. And those of you that have no problems pooping in public bathrooms, stop being a fucking animal.
- [76:50]
Dave Buettner
True. Right eyeball.
- [76:51]
Brian Schulmeister
That's really what it comes down to.
- [76:53]
Dave Buettner
Yeah, well, having the courtesy to clean up after yourself, it's, you know, leave a place better than the way that you found it. And I think lots of people, particularly when it comes to this part of their lives, think that this is not my job and someone else is being paid to clean up after me. And that's unfortunate.
- [77:13]
Brian Schulmeister
I mean, at the very least, treat it like your own toilet at home. You would not leave a mess everywhere.
- [77:19]
Jason DeFilippo
I would prefer to. They leave it better than their own toilet at home. Because I've been to some people's homes that are just.
- [77:25]
Brian Schulmeister
Some people are just animals.
- [77:27]
Jason DeFilippo
You know that old, that old saying, leave only footprints. Not if they're in peace, not if they're made of p. Yeah.
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Dave Buettner
I remember this whole thing about Parco priests. I remember anybody who attended the University of Maryland back in the late 80s and early 90s, which is when I was there, there was an ad every single day in the campus newspaper that said, pee shy. We're conducting a study. And it was all about people who clench up when they're trying to pee in a public restroom. And I guess somebody was doing some research at the university that went on for years because that ad was. It was a running gag about that ad, but it was there every day. So I guess I never really thought about it. Extending to number two. I have a couple of thoughts about this. So there's the basic issue of privacy, which I think I'm hoping that we're shifting to this idea of unisex single person use restrooms rather than. Yeah, it seems like we're heading in that direction, which I think is great. You know, not this men's room and women's room and.
- [78:44]
Brian Schulmeister
And a big trough.
- [78:47]
Dave Buettner
Stadium.
- [78:48]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, it's. It's individual. Men, Men or women, doesn't matter. Go in. It's an individual unit into and of itself. I see those more and more everywhere I go now, which is nice.
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Dave Buettner
And why doors that don't go to the floor. Like the amount of privacy you have in a public restroom, even an office environment restroom, is Just silly.
- [79:08]
Brian Schulmeister
But how's the senator going to get a hand job?
- [79:11]
Dave Buettner
Well, that's true. I hadn't considered that. But listen, they can do whatever they want to do in the walls of Congress, but in my restroom, I would like to have, have a little more privacy to do my business. As I have described before here. This is an issue in my office building. Here we are four floor office building and it seems like everybody up on the third floor comes down to my floor, which is the second floor, to do their business. Now I think this would be fine if we all agreed on a plan. So if everybody just shifts a floor away from their floor, everybody goes down a floor. The people on the first floor go up to the fourth floor.
- [79:58]
Brian Schulmeister
Right, right.
- [79:59]
Dave Buettner
So we all just shift a floor. We agree we're not going to where we eat. You know, we're going to, we're going to put some distance and if we all did this, it's all good. But that's not. Doesn't seem to be the way it works. For whatever reason, it's a mad house. I know where's. I mean, come on, can we have a little dignity, a little privacy? The other thing I wonder about is to what degree is this a dude thing? Like do women also seek out places far away to do their business or is this, is there a difference? Because the vast majority of time, no matter what they're doing, women have to sit down and so they have to go through a long procedure, they're going in the stall. Whereas we can do more passing thing with the urinals. And I'm generalizing here and I'll take the hit for that. But I wonder, is there a difference because of that? There may not be. So I'm curious if any of our female listeners, both of you, if there's, if this is also a thing for women because it clearly is for men. I don't. Do you guys have any sense to.
- [81:08]
Jason DeFilippo
That you're asking the wrong dude.
- [81:11]
Brian Schulmeister
Well, I would say no. From what my wife has told me and from my observations in the limited experiences I've had working in larger office buildings, women go to the closest restroom. They will not go up a flight to take a dump.
- [81:28]
Dave Buettner
Right, right. So what's, yeah, so what's up with that? Like what is. What is hiding in the corner of our side?
- [81:35]
Brian Schulmeister
Psyche hunting versus gathering behavior.
- [81:38]
Dave Buettner
Right. Our fragile male psyche. Like what is going on that this is a thing? I don't, I don't know.
- [81:44]
Brian Schulmeister
We're, we're like the cats that have to go Hide to die. As opposed to the women being the dogs that will just die on the couch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go.
- [81:53]
Dave Buettner
And. And. Yeah. Well, all right. We've talked enough about this.
- [81:58]
Brian Schulmeister
Enough conjecture about the female happiness. Yes, I think so. Once again, white men talking about things of which they know not.
- [82:05]
Dave Buettner
That's right.
- [82:05]
Jason DeFilippo
Yep. Indeed.
- [82:07]
Dave Buettner
What we do best.
- [82:09]
Brian Schulmeister
Let me mansplain to you about how you poop.
- [82:11]
Dave Buettner
Yeah. You're doing it wrong.
- [82:13]
Brian Schulmeister
You go up a floor on Tuesdays, you go down a floor on Wednesdays.
- [82:18]
Dave Buettner
Right. Are you an animal? Unless it's a federal holiday and then we shift today. Yeah.
- [82:25]
Jason DeFilippo
All right, I gotta go take a dump. I'll talk to you guys later.
- [82:29]
Brian Schulmeister
I really have to pee. And I have to go down four floors.
- [82:31]
Dave Buettner
Do it right. Who has time for that closing shout out?
- [82:38]
Jason DeFilippo
Over at Patreon, we've got Nicholas Helene Panagiotis. Psycheosis.
- [82:43]
Brian Schulmeister
Close enough, close enough.
- [82:45]
Jason DeFilippo
And Sergio. And thanks for everybody for booting up to the year plans.
- [82:49]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, we're getting a lot of those. So thank you. Thank you all very much.
- [82:53]
Jason DeFilippo
Thank you so much.
- [82:53]
Brian Schulmeister
Over at PayPal. Yeah. Over at PayPal we've got Ralph Miles, Shari, Linda and Natalie. Thank you also much.
- [82:59]
Jason DeFilippo
Over at the Tip Jar, we've got Theodore. So just a quick reminder, we now have the yearly option for Patreon subscription and you get 5% off. So what that means is you get the show a little bit early ad free and in high definition and maybe a up Google version if we can get around to making that work today.
- [83:16]
Brian Schulmeister
Yeah, we'll see about that. And again, thank you to everybody that is donating. That really is the only thing that keeps us going around here. The ad revenue is such a trickle, it doesn't even really pay for one Waymo ride. We really make all of the money we need to keep the show going from donations. So thank you all so much.
- [83:35]
Jason DeFilippo
Thank you all so much. And if you feel like it, tell a friend.
- [83:38]
Brian Schulmeister
Yes, please.
- [83:39]
Jason DeFilippo
That helps too. Until next time. I'm Jason DeFilippo.
- [83:43]
Brian Schulmeister
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