671: Lorum Ipsum Is My Sister

Summary

Grumpy Old Geeks - Episode 671: "Lorum Ipsum Is My Sister"

Release Date: October 26, 2024
Hosts: Jason DeFilippo, Brian Schulmeister, with Dave Bittner

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1. Self-Driving Cars: Waymo's Progress in San Francisco vs. Santa Monica

Jason and Brian kick off the episode by discussing the latest developments in self-driving technology, focusing on Waymo's deployment in San Francisco and Santa Monica.

• Waymo's Success in San Francisco: Despite initial skepticism, Waymo's self-driving cars have gained traction in San Francisco. Anecdotes from friends like Chen highlight positive user experiences, such as the absence of a driver and the ability to play personal music during rides.

• Challenges in Santa Monica: Contrastingly, Waymo faces difficulties in Santa Monica due to complex traffic, pedestrian activity, and diverse transportation modes like bikes and scooters.

Notable Quote:
Jason DeFilippo (00:55): "Can you believe it or not?"

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2. HBO's "Money Electric" Documentary and Satoshi Nakamoto Controversy

The hosts delve into the recent HBO documentary "Money Electric," which claims to reveal Satoshi Nakamoto, the elusive creator of Bitcoin.

• Peter Todd's Involvement: Peter Todd appears in the documentary with a wink, suggesting he might be Satoshi. However, he later clarifies his identity, leading to backlash from the crypto community.

• Safety Concerns: Todd expresses fears for his safety post-documentary, citing increased risks of robbery and harassment due to unfounded claims linking him to Bitcoin's creation.

Notable Quote:
Brian Schulmeister (04:25): "Okay, I."

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3. Meta's "AI Me" and Artist Pushback Against AI Training

Jason introduces Meta's new video titled "AI Me," which he criticizes for its portrayal of AI and lack of understanding of artists' concerns.

• Artist Protests: Over 10,500 artists, including prominent figures like Julianne Moore and Tom York, have signed an open letter opposing AI systems that use their work without licensing.

• Underlying Issues: The core problem isn't the AI tools themselves but how they're trained—using artists' intellectual property without compensation or consent.

Notable Quote:
Brian Schulmeister (07:29): "And the fact that Meta put this thing out is really a testament to how much they don't give a shit."

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4. X (Formerly Twitter) Updates on Privacy and AI Data Usage

The conversation shifts to X's recent policy changes related to data sharing for AI training.

• Privacy Policy Changes: X now allows user data to be shared with third-party collaborators for AI model training, a move that raises concerns about user consent and data security.

• Enforcement Skepticism: Both hosts express doubt over the effectiveness of enforcing these new policies, predicting it will lead to more loopholes and complications.

Notable Quote:
Jason DeFilippo (10:25): "He's not going to sell it to anybody but himself."

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5. OpenAI's Internal Struggles and Departures

The episode covers recent high-profile resignations from OpenAI, highlighting internal disagreements over the company's direction.

• Miles Brundage's Exit: A senior advisor leaves OpenAI, citing the need for more independence and expressing concerns over the company's for-profit shift and the lack of proper guardrails for AGI development.

• Broader Implications: This trend of departures signifies potential instability within OpenAI as it grapples with ethical and operational challenges.

Notable Quote:
Jason DeFilippo (15:07): "They are trying to do something... Let's figure something out."

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6. Google’s Synth ID: AI Watermarking Tool

The hosts explore Google's new Synth ID tool aimed at watermarking AI-generated text to identify artificial content.

• Functionality: Synth ID inserts hidden watermarks during text generation without compromising output quality, proving effective in large-scale tests.

• Potential Loopholes: Despite its promise, both hosts speculate on ways users might circumvent the watermarking, rendering the tool a temporary fix in the ongoing AI integrity battle.

Notable Quote:
Jason DeFilippo (20:22): "It's going to be whack a mole."

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7. 23andMe's Decline and Data Privacy Issues

Jason and Brian discuss 23andMe's financial struggles and significant data breach that jeopardized nearly 7 million users.

• Business Model Flaws: 23andMe's reliance on single-use consumer engagements without a sustainable model for repeat business has led to a drastic drop in company value.

• Privacy Concerns: Without HIPAA coverage, users' genetic data remains vulnerable to sales and misuse, highlighting the need for stricter regulations.

Notable Quote:
Brian Schulmeister (21:27): "Nobody did that because."

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8. Federal Trade Commission's New Rules on Online Reviews

The FTC announces a final rule banning businesses from manipulating online reviews and testimonials, explicitly addressing AI-generated content.

• Regulatory Impact: The rule prohibits false endorsements, fake followers, and incentivized reviews, aiming to enhance the authenticity of online shopping experiences.

• Enforcement Doubts: Hosts remain skeptical about the FTC's ability to enforce these measures effectively, fearing minimal change in the current "shithole" state of online reviews.

Notable Quote:
Jason DeFilippo (24:45): "So where are the Internet police?"

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9. Entertainment and Science News Highlights

The duo transitions to lighter topics, covering recent updates in entertainment and science.

• Science: Discovery of seven new frog species in Madagascar named after Star Trek characters, symbolizing exploration.

• Entertainment: Updates on various TV series, including "Star Trek Lower Decks," "Midnight Mass," and changes in production teams due to controversies.

Notable Quote:
Jason DeFilippo (35:31): "Nobody of that company watched Jurassic Park."

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10. Technology Tools and Updates

Jason and Brian review new tech tools and software updates that impact their workflows.

• Perplexity AI: Introduction of Perplexity’s Mac app with enhanced features, though Brian remains hesitant about integrating AI tools into his routine.

• SetApp and Software Recommendations: Discussion on the benefits of SetApp subscriptions, including access to tools like Spark for email and CleanMyMac for system optimization.

Notable Quote:
Jason DeFilippo (53:32): "I'd like to see the threads numbers."

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11. Closing Remarks: Shoutouts and Farewells

The episode concludes with personal updates, shoutouts, and acknowledgments of recent passings.

• Personal Milestones: Jason celebrates 666 days of sobriety in alignment with Halloween.

• Tributes: Honoring the lives of Philip Zimbardo, Ward Christiansen, and Fernando Valenzuela, reflecting on their impacts.

• Upcoming Events: Anticipation for the Dodgers vs. Yankees World Series matchup.

Notable Quote:
Jason DeFilippo (42:34): "I'm a big fan of Iron Maiden."

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Conclusion

In this episode of "Grumpy Old Geeks," Jason DeFilippo and Brian Schulmeister offer a critical and humorous take on the latest in technology, AI controversies, privacy issues, and pop culture. From the strides and setbacks of self-driving cars to the ethical dilemmas surrounding AI training, the hosts provide insightful commentary peppered with their trademark grumpiness. Engaging discussions on regulatory changes, industry departures, and innovative tech tools keep the conversation dynamic and relevant. The episode wraps up with heartfelt tributes and personal anecdotes, maintaining the show's balance between informative content and relatable banter.

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Links and Resources:

• Google Synth ID: Google AI Synth ID
• Perplexity AI Mac App: Perplexity AI
• SetApp Subscription: SetApp
• Diff Text Tool: Diff Text
• Web Design Museum: Web Design Museum

For more detailed discussions and resources, visit the show notes at GOG Show 671.

Transcript

[Brian Schulmeister]

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[Jason DeFilippo]

Grumpy Old Geeks, a weekly talk show hosted by Brian Schulmeister and Jason DeFilippo discussing the finer points of what went wrong on the Internet and who's to blame. Welcome to Grumpy Old geeks. I'm Jason DeFilippo.

[Brian Schulmeister]

And I'm Brian Schiltmeister.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Brian's self driving cars have actually become a hit in San Francisco. After all of our bitchin and Kvechin and Moanin, they've actually finally found their stride. Can you believe it or not?

[Brian Schulmeister]

I'm a little surprised. I mean, it's taken a long time. We were told this was coming. When we started this podcast.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Our timeline matched.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, not too bad. Yeah, I've been hearing a lot of raving about it. Not without problems. It's not a fully realized technology yet. There's still issues here and there and everywhere. But from what I've heard from both people we know, people I know, and obviously the media is that it's actually doing pretty well up there.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah. From the reports we got from Chen and David, our friends and friends of the show, they love it now. And I think one of the things that really got me was when Chen said that, yeah, there's no driver to talk to and you can play your own music. I'm like, okay, sign me up. Sign me up right now.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, I've heard less stellar things from friends in Santa Monica, which is also having quite a few of the waymos I think are around there and they're less impressed with it. And I do wonder if it's. I mean, I haven't driven in San Francisco in years, but I know what Santa Monica traffic is like and it's nuts. And it's not just cars, it's pedestrians and people on bike bikes and skateboards and scooters and everything else. So it's, it's doing less well in Santa Monica, but it does seem to be working up in San Fran. So just dodging the manpu.

[Jason DeFilippo]

I've driven in both extensively and I think San Francisco is way harder than Santa Monica. Way harder. I mean there's so many one way streets. It's just the Hills, the people stopping randomly just because the streets are narrow. It's a lot of the same problems you have in Santa Monica, honestly. But just, you know, 10x that with San Francisco and Manpu. Lots of Manpu.

[Brian Schulmeister]

But cars don't care about that. They'll run it.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, that's true, that's true. Unless you shape it in like a stop sign and encircle the car with it. Then they get confused.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Right.

[Jason DeFilippo]

So it says last summer waymo was doing 10,000 paid rides a week and by May it went to 50,000 and now it's more than 100,000. But here's the, here's the kicker. They're taking that 100,000 and they're spreading it across San Francisco, Phoenix and LA. So they're kind of juicing the numbers there because that's what they do, you know. Best week ever, because it was our first week, you know, kind of thing. So it's interesting. I actually am looking forward to giving it a shot. I just don't know when I ever want to go to Santa Monica, so.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, well, I'll be there over Christmas, so maybe I'll give it a go.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Okay. Well, yeah, if you're going to be in town, maybe we'll do a. Maybe we'll do a gog spot from the back of a Waymo. He'll come out and meet you there. It's about halfway from Orange county to.

[Brian Schulmeister]

That's true, that's true. I got a bit more follow up last week. I talked about the HBO documentary Money Electric that aired on the network. And according to Peter Todd, who is outed in that documentary as the legendary Satoshi, the anonymous creator of Bitcoin, who basically said winkingly, yes, I'm Satoshi, and then did a whole press thing saying, no, I'm not after. And everybody kind of debunked it in the community anyways. But now that this documentary has aired, he is, he's pissed. He has told several reporters since that the accusation has endangered his life. Obviously, falsely accusing someone of having tens of billions of dollars puts them at risk from robbery and kidnappings. Todd told Bloomberg after the documentary aired, he's putting my life at risk to promote his movie. I would like to point out that Todd agreed to be in the movie.

[Jason DeFilippo]

And he did the little wink and said, you know, hey, yeah, humor has a price, buddy.

[Brian Schulmeister]

So there you go. You were in it. Now he's. He's told Wired that he's gone into hiding. After the documentary aired, his inbox was flooded with emails, a Lot of them were people asking for money. Change your email people.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Want some?

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yes.

[Jason DeFilippo]

I wonder how Wired found him. If he's in hiding.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yes. Well, he expects that this is just the way it's going to be for the rest of his life. Not only is the dumb, it's dangerous. Satoshi obviously doesn't want to be found for good reasons. And no one should help people trying to find him. He told Wired. Okay, I. This guy just sounds like a real piece of work. That's. That's my impression.

[Jason DeFilippo]

So, yeah, I still kind of want to see it. I just haven't had the time.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Me too. I do want to see it. Even though now I kind of know it's all not worth it. But whatever. I got to see this guy in real life.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah. See, that's why I actually want to see it now. Because of this. Before I'm like, yeah, maybe not. But now I'm just like, this might actually be interesting.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yep.

[Jason DeFilippo]

In the news. I hate AI Me too. That's the. That's. Yeah, I know. You too. That's the name of a video, though, that Meta put out. So before we get into the AI news, I do want to talk about this video for a minute because. Did you get a chance to watch it?

[Brian Schulmeister]

No, I did not. Sorry.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Okay. What it basically is is artist shaming. It's a new thing that I've never thought I would be saying. It's a video that they let this director, Anish Chaganti, make on his own. He's like, here. Here's the tools. Here's our MovieGen AI not on his own with AI. True. They gave him the MovieGen AI tool and said, have at it. Go make something. And what this guy came back with was just a cute little video of when he was a kid making a film and how AI could have enhanced his movie because he wanted it to be in Manhattan or Sci Fi. And he's like, yeah, the AI doesn't make it perfect, but it's better than it was. And he's basically. He's saying that the tools aren't the problem. You're the problem. You need to have more creativity and use the tools properly. That's the problem. It's not us, it's you. That's the problem.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Okay. I think he is fundamentally misunderstanding the reason that people are pissed off about AI.

[Jason DeFilippo]

You think?

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, I think because it's not about the tools and it's not about using them creatively. It's about how those tools were trained and all the. All the owned intellectual property rights and everything else that was gone into training them and not being, not being funded for that, not being paid for it. That's the issue. People are tired of these companies scraping everybody's content and training on it without being paid for it.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Oh, yeah, yeah. It's tone deaf. No. And the fact that Meta put this thing out is really a testament to how much they don't give a shit. Yes, they really don't. So.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, well. And more than 10,000 artists have just signed an open letter protesting this. Exactly. So they're protesting unlicensed AI training. The Washington Post reports that more than 10,500 artists have signed an open letter objecting to AI developers unlicensed use of artists work to train their models. The unlicensed use of creative works for training generative AI is a major unjust threat to the livelihoods of people behind those works and must not be permitted. The one sentence letter reads. The letter is. It's not really a letter. If it's just.

[Jason DeFilippo]

That's really not much of a letter. It's not much of a letter, is it?

[Brian Schulmeister]

But it's basically gotten, you know, massive names from film, television, music and publishing industries. Some of the more famous signatures include actress Julianne Moore, Rosario Dawson, Kevin Bacon, F. Murray Abraham, as well as Saturday Night live star Kate McKinnon, author James Patterson and radio head frontman Tom York. And I will also point out Robert Smith from the Cure. Oh, I saw him post that the other day. So.

[Jason DeFilippo]

All right, that's the whole, that's the whole point. You know, this, this shit wouldn't exist without their work, our work. You know, my stuff has been trained on it. I found my, my photographs in there. So everybody's stuff's in there at this point. Your words, your faces, your. Everything is being sucked up by this stuff.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, everything is. In fact, I was actually listening. I haven't listened to Pivot in quite some time, the podcast with our good friend Cara, because I just basically burned out on her. But they're putting out a little series AI right now, like little, little 24 minute things, talking about, you know, what's happening with it right now, what you should be using it for, everything like that. And they had somebody, a 26 year old journalist who's like delved deeply into it. She's the senior journalist on AI at I think the Verge. And she just basically kept saying all these models, Scott Galloway was pressuring her to basically say, well, what's your favorite model? What's the one that you really like? And you know, which ones do you hate? And she basically just said they're all exactly the same. They've all been trained on the entirety of the Internet. Everything that's out there, they all got everything already. And it's the same basic model just, you know, with slightly different tweaks in it. That's, that's about it. So, yeah, they've got everything already. This has been trained on everything and it's a mess and it's, it should have been illegal, but here we are.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah. More on that coming up.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yes, yes. And X has updated their privacy policy with new language that allows it to provide users data to third party collaborators in order to train AI models. In other words, he's basically found a new way to make money, which is selling all of X's data to other people to have the same data that Grok has and everybody else has.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, I think this is just the loophole because the other collaborators are just going to be xai. That's it. He's not going to sell it to anybody but himself.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Well, he might. He needs money.

[Jason DeFilippo]

It depends on how much money he needs. Yeah, yeah. Was it 100,000 GPU farm that I guess broke a bunch of records because he built it in a couple months versus a couple years just because he wrote a giant check to Nvidia and hijacked the ones that were supposed to be going to Tesla, which caused that little shareholder kerfuffle. But yeah, he's going all in on xai.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah. And in a typical X kind of situation, the policy update mentions the ability to opt out, but, but there's no way to do it because the policy points to the user settings menu, but there's nothing in there yet for opting out of data sharing because there's no.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Engineers left at X to actually go in and write the checkbox to unsubscribe. That's why.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah. And in addition to the privacy policy, X has also updated their terms of service with stricter penalties for entities that are caught scraping large amounts of tweets, just like everybody else has done and X has done with other places. So.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, no, this is just, this is the silliest arms race ever now at this point. And I just, I, I went in the other day and it's a giant banner. It's like, upgrade today. Discount. Discount. Please upgrade. Give us a little bit of money, please. No.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Oh, yeah. On the desktop version of X now when I load it up, the entire right side is basically just please, please join us. Give us some money.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Well, to continue on with the theme, Sushur Balaji, who was an open AI researcher, has quit. He left the company about concerns over its use of copyrighted material. So Balaji, he worked there for four years, believes the company's use of Internet data to train AI models violates copyright laws. And after reflecting on the impact of AI technologies, he decided to step away from contributing to what he sees as a harmful trajectory.

[Brian Schulmeister]

After reflecting for four years.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Four years at probably $200,000 a year, he probably got a big enough no nut where he could go buy a house in Montana and said, screw you guys, I'm going home.

[Brian Schulmeister]

That's kind of what I was thinking too. He figured he made enough money now, so now I'm going to have principles.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, it's easy to have principles on a full belly.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Well, OpenAI and Microsoft apparently might be feeling a little bit bad about stealing all this stuff, but they want to fund projects to bring more AI tools into the newsroom. The duo will give grants of up to $10 million to Chicago Public Media, the Minnesota Star Tribune, Newsday in Long Island, New York, the Philadelphia Inquir and the Seattle Times. Each of the publications will hire a two year AI fellow to develop projects for implementing the technology and improving business sustainability. Three more outlets are expected to receive fellowship grants in a second round. I don't really like AI in my.

[Jason DeFilippo]

News, but yeah, I would posit, Brian, that the newsroom is the one place where AI should be banned, period.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Well, because of a few other places.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Too, but yes, definitely there's because otherwise they're not going to have anything new to start scraping. Exactly. They need somebody to actually create new stuff. Graphics are out the window. Nobody's making original art anymore. It's all coming from the other mid journeys and stuff, which we'll talk about in a little bit. And we need somebody to create new stuff. And I think the newsroom is the last bastion of original creativity besides novelists.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, we are rocketing towards that AI eating its own tail thing that we keep talking about. The AI Centipede.

[Jason DeFilippo]

So ByteDance has actually fired an intern for sabotaging its AI models, which. Good for you, man. Remember, remember the 5th of November. The company denies the rumors that the damage cost them tens of millions of dollars. The intern, part of ByteDance's commercial technology team allegedly tampered with AI model training tasks. And ByteDance clarified that none of commercial projects were impacted and claims of severe financial losses were exaggerated. The company also accused the intern of misrepresenting his role on social media. So he lied to get the job and then, you know, fucked with them from within. Good on you, buddy. Good on you. Oh man. In another OpenAI departure, longtime policy researcher Miles Brundage has left OpenAI where he served as a senior advisor on the AGI Readiness Team. When he announced his departure on X and his personal blog, he stated that he seeks more independence in the nonprofit sector. He acknowledged OpenAI's significant mission, but expressed concerns over groupthink and urged colleagues to raise questions. Brundage's exit follows a wave of high profile resignations that we've been covering on the show. So, you know, it's just, it's whack a mole over there. But yeah, he's been there for a while, so he probably got a few bucks as well. But the interesting thing is I think his leaving is around the company going for profit. And also I read his blog post and he does seem to think that the AGI thing really needs some guardrails. So. Really needs some guardrails. And he's one of the guys that helped write that whole level of AI thing that we talked about a couple weeks ago. You know, you go from yeah, that's really nice to oh shit, we're all dead. That list. Yes, very quickly, very quickly. Which just seems to be coming faster than, faster than self driving cars. So we'll see.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, we'll see.

[Jason DeFilippo]

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[Brian Schulmeister]

80S music or a drug and a Neal Stephenson an early novel.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, that too, yeah. They released it as a free open source toolkit. This technology allows developers to mark AI generated text in a hidden way, making it easier to identify artificial content. Synthid uses a tournament sampling method to insert watermarks during the text generation process without distorting the quality of the output. Google's research shows the tool is highly effective, especially with longer texts and when the AI model has a higher degree of variability in its responses. In large scale tests, users found almost no difference in quality between watermarked and non watermarked responses.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Okay.

[Jason DeFilippo]

I looked at how they were doing it and it was kind of confusing, especially when you take that content and run it through something. That would also obfuscate it a little bit. I think that there's ways around it for sure.

[Brian Schulmeister]

That's going to be whack a mole.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Oh, it's totally going to be whack a mole. Especially, you know, the fun part would be that's why you have like seven different apps running at the same time. You've got your chatgpt, you got your perplexity, you got your po, you got your this, you got your that, you got your other. And it just, you write a script to cascade everything through, through, to clean it all up and then by the end, it's just a game of telephone. So tell me about Napoleon. And then you get a thing about sunglasses at the end. But it is what it is. DNA testing company 23andMe is facing significant challenges, including a data breach that compromised the information of nearly 7 million users last year and a steep decline in its financial performance. All things we have covered on the show. And the company's worth has dropped over 99% since going public in 2021, primarily due to reduced consumer interest in spitting into a tube. This is the thing, you do it once, you're not going to have very many Repeat buyers. With 23 days.

[Brian Schulmeister]

That was what they sold people on the fact that you've gotten your basic information. But now, of course they're going to come back for more customized, specific things that we can look for and check for. But reality is nobody did that because.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Right, yeah, yeah, because I think their whole goal was as they got more data on more people, they could get more insights. And that's what you're talking about with coming back to get more advanced data. But turns out there just wasn't that much interesting data to glean once you got past the first 20, 30, 40 million people. It's all the same shit. Okay. We're all people. That's it.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yep. And also, you know, there are so many issues with it. There's privacy concerns, there's, there's so many concerns about this. The fact that they weren't trying to pivot into something else at some point in the past couple of years is just, that's just bad business.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, it really is. And you know, you think about somebody like this, this is a one trick pony. And you look at somebody like DocuSign over the years who has obviously said, okay, they saw the writing on the wall and said we offer a very simple, specific service and it has been commoditized. Now you can get document signing in Dropbox and just about everything. So they've been working notes. Yeah, so they've been working on pivoting over the years because they saw the writing on the wall. 23andMe did not get the memo. Now here's where the problem comes in. Customers genetic data is at risk because 23andMe is not covered by HIPAA regulations, meaning it can change its privacy policies at will, which it has been doing, which means it can just sell your shit or just give it away in a fire sale.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Something's going to happen.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah. I mean 10 years ago, 11 years ago, we said this exact same thing. This was the end game of what's going to happen with these genetic testing companies and it's finally coming to pass. So 23andMe has gone fire and now we have self driving taxis. So we're just 10 years too early, Brian. That's the way it always goes.

[Brian Schulmeister]

There you go. The FTC has issued a final rule on the purchase and sale of online reviews back in August and it came into force 60 days after it was published in the Federal Register. This rule bans businesses from creating, buying or selling reviews and testimonials attributed to people who don't exist, including those that are AI generated. False celebrity endorsements aren't allowed. Companies can't pay or otherwise incentivize genuine customers to leave positive or negative reviews. Boy, that's going to change Amazon if they actually enforce this. Certain reviews and testimonials written by people who have close ties with the company. Company without a disclaimer is also a no. No. There are restrictions on soliciting reviews from close relatives of employees too. The rule includes limitations on the suppression of negative reviews from customers. It also prohibits people from knowingly selling or buying fake followers and views to inflate the influence or importance of social media accounts for commercial purposes. In other words, all of Instagram pretty much as far as I can tell these days, because that's all I seem to see. Fines for violating these measures could prove extremely costly. The maximum civil penalty for each infraction is currently F $51,744. So you know, if this is, if this is enforced, it could be great and really change the online shopping experience, which has become a shithole. But I don't know. I don't think it's going to be enforced.

[Jason DeFilippo]

So where are the Internet police?

[Brian Schulmeister]

We yeah, where are the Internet police? Who's going to do it? Who's going to go after these people?

[Jason DeFilippo]

So now, if the FTC went after the FCC for this exact thing, we might actually get some policy passed because all of those public comment periods are just slammed with fake reviews. So does that factor into their thinking here? Will they be able to go after their own sister agency at the FCC for all the dead people that have been leaving reviews for net neutrality and shit like that?

[Brian Schulmeister]

They're going to hire one person that's going to sit in a room to go through every WooCommerce store on the Internet and go. That review is. That testimonial is obviously prepackaged with the plugin.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Seriously, it's just demo data. We didn't do anything. That's just the sample data that comes with WooCommerce. We promise.

[Brian Schulmeister]

No, Lorem Ipsum is a real person.

[Jason DeFilippo]

He's a real person.

[Brian Schulmeister]

It's my sister.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Oh, God. Good luck. Good luck. They're going to get that one guy from the FDA that is in charge of bottled water to come check on everybody. Oh, God. Private equity firm Permira has acquired Squarespace for $7.2 billion, marking the end of its publicly traded status. And probably the next target for Matt. Matty Mullenweg.

[Brian Schulmeister]

I was waiting for his name to be mentioned.

[Jason DeFilippo]

I was going to give a follow up on that whole thing, and I was just like, you know what? I don't care anymore.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason DeFilippo]

The only news I could find this week about that was there was a little bit going on because it's all in the courts now. But Matty, Matt's going to be speaking at TechCrunch Disrupt. Ooh, I haven't been to TechCrunch Disrupt in, God, 15 years.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Except he won't be able to say anything because it's all in the courts right now.

[Jason DeFilippo]

It is. I don't know if that stops him very much. So, yeah. Squarespace is now owned by private equity. Great.

[Brian Schulmeister]

So that's going to eventually peter out as a decent product.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Oh, yeah. I'm sure they're going to squeeze it for every single cent they can and then burn it to the ground, which is fine. This is the natural life cycle of technology now. The creatives come in, they build it, they turn it into a thriving business, and then private equity comes in and just fucks everything up. Can you tell how much I love private equity?

[Brian Schulmeister]

I think you're a fan.

[Jason DeFilippo]

I know, I know.

[Brian Schulmeister]

By the way, we will accept private equity for grumpy old geeks.

[Jason DeFilippo]

You want to buy us out and run us into the ground?

[Brian Schulmeister]

We're doing it ourselves for free.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Exactly. We don't. Yeah, we're doing it without the private equity. That's where we fucked up, Brian. Oh, God. So the US Department of Justice has entered the fray in the ongoing right to repair battle between farmers and John Deere. Okay, so we've been following this one forever. It took them long enough. You know, John Deere has been just horrible to their customers.

[Brian Schulmeister]

I hear they're parachuting in Adam Savage right now.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Adam Savage in a manual and a thumb drive. Here we go. So, yeah, they're. They're looking into John Deere's practices, and they're saying that they may violate antitrust laws by manipulating the repair market for its equipment. Yeah, think.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, that's what everybody's been doing. That's. That's why. That's why right to repair is so important.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Exactly. You know, these companies are going to go kicking and screaming against it. Look at Apple. Apple has finally given in. And, you know, you can fix some things. You can. And they make it almost impossible to get the repair kits and all the tools necessary. The manuals are even hard to come by. But they're doing it to just, you know, to not be deered, as it were, by the doj. So we'll see how this plays out. This is going to take years, I think, but it's long overdue. It is so long overdue. So I'm glad that at least they're finally starting the process.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Good. Me, too.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Depending on the outcome of the election, this could keep going. Or probably not.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Or not.

[Jason DeFilippo]

We'll see.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Or not. Real fast.

[Jason DeFilippo]

We'll know in about two weeks what the plan is for the DOJ on John Deere.

[Brian Schulmeister]

All right, well, it's now harder to know where Elon Musk or Taylor Swift are flying to and the carbon emissions that they're putting out because Meta has shut down Instagram and threads accounts devoted to tracking private jets, according to TechCrunch. And of course, you know, it's already off of X because Elon didn't like his jet whereabouts being known. The crazy thing to me is this is one dude.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, one dude.

[Brian Schulmeister]

This is one dude that's been doing this, Jack.

[Jason DeFilippo]

College student, dude.

[Brian Schulmeister]

A college student in his early 20s who runs all the accounts confirmed that the news that he's been booted on his personal account. Hey, man, Jack, fire up a squarespace.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, there you go.

[Brian Schulmeister]

You don't need social media I'm just saying it's the latest in the line of pushback he has faced in the past. In late 2020, Elon Musk suspended his ElonJet account, which tracked Musk's flight on X and then Twitter. He soon made an account with the handle elonjet. Next day to post Musk's flight with a one day delay. Elon did not like that. Later he got a cease and desist letter from Taylor Swift's lawyers. Basically saying, while this may be a game to you or an avenue that you hope will earn you wealth or fame, it is a life or death matter for our client. In May, Sweeney's job became a little bit harder because the Biden administration pass the law saying, basically anyone with a private aircraft, hey rich guys, you can keep your registration data anonymous. However, he said with tips and other research, he's still doable. This guy must put so much time into this and I can't, I can't. How does he make money?

[Jason DeFilippo]

I don't think he does.

[Brian Schulmeister]

I guess he doesn't. He's still a college student. But you're going to need a job, dude.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, seriously. You know, here's the thing he should do. Here's what I would do if I was him. I would write some scripts and every time it takes off, run it through a voice generated AI and create a podcast. So every time it takes off, a new episode, a micro episode of the podcast drops. That just tells you that Elon's in the air and where he's going. And then every now and then when he lands, you can just do a follow up touchdown.

[Brian Schulmeister]

You still got blue sky. You can go to Mastodon.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Mastodon. The Fediverse. There you go.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Fediverse this crap.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah. You can't get kicked off the Fediverse, right?

[Brian Schulmeister]

I don't think so.

[Jason DeFilippo]

I don't think you can. So there you go. Yeah. Get out of that walled garden, my man. Jack, come on. Embrace the open web. The way it was meant to be. All right, Elon Musk, Tesla and Warner Brothers Discovery are being sued by Alcon Entertainment, the producer of Blade Runner 2049, over alleged AI driven copyright infringement. Again, the lawsuit claims that during Tesla's October 10 cyber cab event, an AI generated image mimicking Blade Runner 2049 was used without permission to promote Tesla's robo taxi.

[Brian Schulmeister]

That doesn't sound like the Elon I know.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Not at all, not at all. Alcon had denied a request to use the image and objected to any affiliation between Musk, Tesla and the Film. The lawsuit also cites Musk's controversial political views as problematic for brand partnerships. Their ad department knows ALCON is in the middle of creating a Blade Runner TV series at the moment. So I think that's why they really kind of went after it. They're like, yeah, we don't want them anywhere near our stuff. Do not pre ruin our TV series. Please, please, with your spray painted tires and all that shit. So some fun science news, Brian. Researchers have identified seven new frog species in Madagascar, naming them after iconic Star Trek characters. I love this. Mark D. Scherz from the Natural History Museum of Denmark highlighted that the frog's calls resemble the franchise's futuristic sound effects. Initially thought to be one species, Bufus Major Residivis was reevaluated though through extensive data collection over three decades, revealing it actually comprises eight distinct species based on their unique high pitched whistles and genetic differences. So that's pretty cool. The newly named species honor captains like James D. Kirk and Jean Luc Picard, symbolizing the spirit of exploration on Earth before looking to the stars. So here we go. We've got B. Kirky, B. Picardy, B. Cisco, E. Be Janeway, Be Archery, Be Pikey, and be Burnamee Burnham. Seriously, burn em.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Well, you know, they were going for all the. All the captains, so.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, I know, but Riker was a captain at the end. He got hosed, man.

[Brian Schulmeister]

He did.

[Jason DeFilippo]

He should. They should have had Cap. They should have had a Rikery in there. He did more for start. Riker did more for Star Trek than Burnham ever did, is all I gotta say.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Agreed.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yes. Which also made me think of the video compilation of Riker sits down. Did you ever see that?

[Brian Schulmeister]

I did.

[Jason DeFilippo]

It is fucking classic. I mean, when you watch them all together and notice that every time he walks in a room, he sits down by throwing his leg over the chair from the back like he's just delivering a pizza in a porno is how he sits down at the ready Room now.

[Brian Schulmeister]

It's funny you put this in here. Did you watch the premiere of Lower Decks?

[Jason DeFilippo]

Not yet, no.

[Brian Schulmeister]

They absolutely give that a shout out in the first episode.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Oh, really? Okay.

[Brian Schulmeister]

It's subtle, but it's there and you'll see it and you will laugh.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Okay, okay. Yes. Jonathan Frakes admits that the Riker maneuver where he swings his leg over the chair before sitting down was actually just a byproduct of the low chairs on set. He acknowledges that it can come off as an asshole move. Like, come on, that's on Brand for Riker. Totally.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Totally.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yep. Finally, in science news, Colossal, the company known for its de extinction efforts, has shared new updates on its project to bring back the thylacine, or Tasmanian tiger, which went extinct in 1936. So they are, their original mandate was to bring back the woolly mammal mammoth. And they're like, this is taking a little longer than we thought. We got anything easier? Okay, this one just went extinct in 1986.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Nobody of that company watched Jurassic Park.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Obviously not. Obviously not. So they're in the middle of doing the gene editing to bring this thing back. They've made over 300 edits and it's getting closer to bringing it back. And yeah, don't know if that's a good idea.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Have you ever seen the video of the last known one? It's a video actually from 1936. It's gone viral social media a few times. They're freaky looking things.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Oh, I have to check it out.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, it's pretty cool.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Check it out. Yeah. What's even freakier though, says at the end of this, they say another innovative step involves attempts to grow marsupial embryos outside the womb using an artificial uterus. Okay, no, no, I do not need an artificial uterus.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Now we're getting into Dune territory here, people.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Oh, and the Vorkosagin series.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, that too. Oh my God, I haven't read that in years. I forgot about that.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Oh, so good. I was thinking about going back and doing it. Lois McMaster Bujold, who wrote it, finally wrapped it up. There's not going to be any more and she put a bow on it at the end. So the whole series is a standalone series of 19 or so books, but definitely one of my favorite sci fi series that. I do not know why it has not been optioned for a massive, massive streaming series at this point. But anyway, yes, we are moving towards self driving cars, artificial uteruses and whatever else we talked about this week. No, it's too early in the morning, Brian. My brain's fried.

[Brian Schulmeister]

I know.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Media candy.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Well, it felt like for a few weeks or maybe even months there, there wasn't too much to watch on tv. But I have a pretty exhaustive list of all the things that we're going to be doing and not much else because there's a lot of it in the coming, coming weeks. Shrinking Season 2 is out now. I've watched the first two episodes. It's very charming and I'm looking forward to seeing more of it. The Diplomat Season 2 drops on Halloween, October 31st. Star Trek Lower Decks. Season 5 drop dropped yesterday. The first two episodes and I watched both. Funny. I think they're trying to actually do a plot, which is a bit of a bummer, but there's a lot of good jokes in there still. Silo Season 2 drops November 15th. Dune Prophecy. The series comes November 17th. God, we're gonna be busy. Star Trek Section 31, which is now a movie rather than a series, will be dropping on January 25th of next year. Daredevil, born again, comes March 4th of next year. And Star Trek Strange New World season three will be at some point in 2025. But at that point, my eyeballs will be fried from everything else I just watched.

[Jason DeFilippo]

And your ass will be too sore from sitting on the couch.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, pretty much.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Time for yoga at some point in there. No. I'm looking forward to everything on this list.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yep. Yep.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, it's going to be good stuff. Yep. And we've got some other good news. Star Trek Starfleet Academy has already gotten a season two renewal. And we haven't even seen season one yet. Nope. And they've added Tatiana. What did you say her last name was? I can't pronounce it.

[Brian Schulmeister]

I believe it's Maslany.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Maslany. Okay. Tatiana Maslany, also known as she Hulk in space, is coming to Starfleet Academy.

[Brian Schulmeister]

I'm actually bummed we're not getting another season of she Hulk. I like.

[Jason DeFilippo]

I know it's one of the few marks so good.

[Brian Schulmeister]

It's one of the few Marvel things I've enjoyed, which must be telling, because I know I hated the rest of the Marvel stuff. And because I like that, I guess that means Marvel people didn't like it, so.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, I think it was too expensive. There was a lot of effects in that.

[Brian Schulmeister]

I mean, it was fun, though.

[Jason DeFilippo]

It was so much fun. It was so much fun. But speaking of she Hulk, Black Mirror, Outer Banks, and she Hulk. Actor Nicholas Cirillo joins cast of season seven. I don't remember who Nicholas Cirillo was, but I'm just glad that Black Mirror is coming back with a season seven. There you go. And it's coming back with six new episodes, including a sequel to the sci fi adventure of the USS Callister, which is apparently one of the show's most popular episodes with Jesse Plemons. Remember that one? It was kind of a Star Trek ripoff.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah. So they were gonna do a revamp on that one. Or a prequel, as it were, so. Or sequel. Sorry. Told you early. Coffee's not working yet. In terrible news, in terrible news, Good Omens is going to end with one 90 minute episode instead of the full season because Neil Gaiman's pecker is becoming problematic.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Say that five times fast.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Neil Gaiman's pecker is becoming problematic because he poked Amanda Palmer first and now he moved on to his interns. Dammit.

[Brian Schulmeister]

I'm actually, I'm not entirely sure this is bad news. I mean, obviously they're, they're cutting it short because they're, they don't want him to write anymore for it. They want to distance themselves. So they're going to work with whatever he had done before his problematic pecker was discovered. Yes. And so that's that. But honestly, they're working completely off script at this point. Yep, I don't mind it. Wrap it up quick. That's fine. Pack it full of jokes, make it interesting and don't, don't stretch it out even longer.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah. The good news is Rob Wilkins is going to be the one of the execs now. He's basically taking over for Neil Gaiman and Rob Wilkins, if anybody doesn't know, is basically Terry Pratchett's right hand man for decades. So we're getting the Terry Pratchett royalty in on this one, which is fantastic. Also Josh Cole, who is the BBC Studios production head of comedy. So we've got two pretty good heavy hitters coming in to take over. So I'm not too worried about.

[Brian Schulmeister]

It should be fine. I'm looking forward to it. I'm okay with just basically a movie.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, yeah. It's still a bummer though, you know.

[Brian Schulmeister]

What are you going to do?

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, yeah, it is off script though. Yeah.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Don't fuck your interns. That's what you're going to do.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Ah, damn it. No, allegedly, Brian. Allegedly.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Allegedly.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah. Midnight Mass is a series on Netflix. I think it was from 2022. My friend Dean turned me onto it because I told him I was so disappointed with the New Salem's Lot and he's like, oh, you gotta check out Midnight Mass. It's a seven part miniseries. Very spooky. Very, very good. I highly recommend it if you like the spooky things. It's kind of like a Salem's Lot ish type of retelling. So highly recommend that. The fun part about this is I've been getting into more spooky stuff because Halloween's coming.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Now I did some math. I was looking at, as people who listen to the show know, that I've been sober for quite some time now. Coming up on, you know, well over a year and a half. And I looked at my dates and I'm like, okay, what are we doing here for Halloween? Am I getting close? Turns out, Brian, on Halloween this year, I will be 666 days sober.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Okay. Yeah, that's kind of cool.

[Jason DeFilippo]

I couldn't have planned that any better because, you know, I have an affinity for 666. It's not because I'm a Satanist. It's because I'm Gen X. When I was a kid, I snuck into my parents room and watched the Omen when It was on HBO, when HBO first came out.

[Brian Schulmeister]

666.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Exactly. And I'm a big fan of Iron Maiden. I bought a Rottweiler because I was such a fan of the Omen. Poor Bam Bam would have been nine years old in a couple days. Boo. But. And I was on Sean Penn's. Penn's Sunday School episode. 666. I have a long history of 666, so I think that this is a good sign, Brian. Good sign for sobriety. Okay.

[Brian Schulmeister]

I'm proud of you.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Go check out Midnight Mass is what I'm getting back to. Thank you. And everybody knows I was a fan of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I did a rewatch on the show about five or six years ago. The. The series has been bounced around all the streaming services, but it's finally back in time for Halloween on Tubi. So you can watch it on Tubi, the fast network. I unfortunately can't watch it anymore because I became really good friends with the guy that played Spike, and I watched that and I'm like, that's not him. No, that's not. I hang out with a different guy, so when I watch it, I'm like, no, I can't do it anymore. You ever have that when you meet somebody famous and get to know them and you can't watch what they do?

[Brian Schulmeister]

My version of that is I can't really listen to their music anymore.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. The Lincoln Lawyer Season 3 came out this week. We're almost halfway through it. It's as good as the other seasons so far. I like it. Pretty, pretty, pretty formulaic, but I'm digging it. I'm digging it. Lioness season two. Got a sneak peek that comes out October 27th. Looks pretty good. Looks pretty good. Nicole Kidman's plastic surgery has finally toned down enough where she doesn't look like an alien like she did in season one.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Oh, her forehead moves now?

[Jason DeFilippo]

No. Well, I don't know about her forehead. Her lips were the big problem. Her lips were so poofy in the first season. You could tell it was right after she got them done. And it just did not look like her at all. At all. So I guess I'm gonna have to look for a Paramount plus deal now because Lower Decks is back. All the Star Trek stuff's coming back. I want to see Lionette. So. Yeah, I got Hulu with ads for free, though, last week from my Ralph's card. That's. That's. That's how much they're giving this stuff away. They're like, would you.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Would you.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Here's your Brussels sprouts. Would you like some Hulu with that? I'm like, sure.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Maybe if. Maybe if you go get a tank of gas at Arco, you might get Paramount Plus.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Keep your eyes open, maybe.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Oh, funny. Joseph wrote in within a few minutes of this news breaking, and I had already seen it so first. But anyways, Cruel World Fest date, lineup and ticket release has been announced. Probably more at Brian's Alley than Jason's. Lots of fun names there. Here's the info. Tickets go live on October 25th, which is basically right now at 11am I will not be buying tickets because I don't feel like flying back for this one. I'm a bit underwhelmed, really, by the lineup. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like almost every single band that's playing it. But I think I'm underwhelmed because almost all of these bands have already already done the Cruel Word World Festival or Darker Waves or Coachella or any of the other SoCal festivals that have been held in the last year or two. And it makes me realize that there just aren't that many bands from our youth that are still out there touring because they're all playing the same festivals over and over again now.

[Jason DeFilippo]

So, yeah, yeah, yeah, next year and cashing in 2025. I did look at the lineup. I was totally underwhelmed by it. I'm just like, I know.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Well, again, I like every band. It's just.

[Jason DeFilippo]

You don't love them, though. That's the thing.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Well, I love Garbage, but I hardly consider them like a throwback band, although they are at this point. OMG's fantastic. Live. I just saw them, though. New orders kind of crap. Live. I'd rather see Peter Hook touring it than those guys anymore. I mean, I like a lot of these bands. And as you pointed out, Devo is in this lineup. I just saw Devo in what I thought was supposed to be their last show.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah. And they did a residency in Vegas that our friend Fogarty went to as well. And I thought that was like the last hurrah. And now they're coming back already. I'm like, damn, that money ran out fast.

[Brian Schulmeister]

They never went away. That's the thing. So you posted in here. I thought Devo retired. And I wrote why yes, in 2023. Funny sort of thing. Their retirement. And I have a link in the show notes to them discussing retiring over a year and a half ago.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Show go.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Which they obviously have not done because they've played every festival known to man.

[Jason DeFilippo]

And I don't know if you've noticed this on Instagram. Everybody that's playing that show is running sponsored ads for this festival. It's just like I can scroll for 10 posts and four of them are for this festival.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, I think they know that this is going to be a hard sell, that the novelty has run off. And these are the same bands recycling around now. It was cool as when they first announced them and you know, these bands were playing for the first time in ages and all together and everything. But now that we've gone a few seasons of the same show.

[Jason DeFilippo]

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[Brian Schulmeister]

I have not.

[Jason DeFilippo]

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[Brian Schulmeister]

And I still just used Photoshop and Illustrator.

[Jason DeFilippo]

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[Brian Schulmeister]

Cool.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah. I think they're trying to go after Procreate because Procreate came out and said, hey, no AI ever. And they're like, we got some AI. Fuck it, let's throw it in there. Saw this one this morning. This is brand new. Midjourney has launched a new edit feature that lets users modify existing user images. Because before, I don't know if you ever tried this with Midjourney, Brian, you could upload a reference image and it would kind of use that for its generation for what you wanted it to do, but it wasn't using the actual image, which was a bummer. But now you can upload the image and kind of draw around it and tell it what you want, and then it kind of fills it in, which is what we always wanted when we were uploading images. Now, Photoshop's had this for a bit, but Photoshop is a little hamstrung because they, quote, unquote, say that they are abiding by copyright. Sure you are.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Fuck that.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah. No, I want some wild west shit here. If we're breaking the Internet and breaking the world, let's make some fun shit for it. So there's a video on the link in the show notes that I watched this morning, and it's pretty impressive, but it is a demo, so caveat emptor. I'm going to give it a shot for sure. Because there are some things that I've always wanted to do with Midjourney that I tried for hours and hours and hours to get it to do. It would never do for my reference images. So now this might be the way to go. And you can do it on the web interface, which is really nice, instead of having to go through Discord, which is a pain in the ass.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Right?

[Jason DeFilippo]

So. But you have to be a. I think you have to be. There's. There's. If you're not a paid user, you have to have some kind of crazy. There's. There's restrictions around it, like you've had to make 10,000 images or some stuff like that, but definitely worth checking out. Perplexity. Have you been playing with Perplexity much? We talked about it last episode.

[Brian Schulmeister]

I fired it up. The thing for me is I haven't delved into the AI content creation the way you have. For me, it's a novelty. I play with it for a few seconds and I'm done. I'm not Really, I do it sometimes for our artwork. I'll do some image creation because that's easier than finding weird things that fit our quirky sense of humor. And I don't really do text creation for anything. I write my own stuff and I'm just old school that way. I'm old man yelling at the cloud now, Jason. Except really a cloud. The AI cloud. Fuck that.

[Jason DeFilippo]

The other people's computer cloud.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yep.

[Jason DeFilippo]

So I've been using it a lot for marketing research and things like that. There's a lot of stuff in the marketing world that is really useful for all of the AI stuff. And I'm actually taking a couple classes, one from Google and one from Ben's Bytes in the coming weeks, which I'll. I'll be reporting back on. The Google one sounds really interesting. The Ben's Bytes one's not sure so much about. But it's free. They're both free. If I dig them up, I'll put some links in the show notes to run through that.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Let's do that. I'd like to take the Google one.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, the Google one sounds actually pretty good. You do have to do some homework, but you do get some free compute credits, which is nice. But anyway, back to Perplexity. This week they launched the Mac app. So if you have a Mac like you and I both do, you can get the Perplexity app that runs next to of course, your ChatGPT app. And you got your apps for this and your apps for that.

[Brian Schulmeister]

The problem with I got the thing and got the claude and this and.

[Jason DeFilippo]

That and the other. The problem with the perplexity AI app for the macOS is that it comes with these built in key commands and they're fucking dumb. It completely hijacks Shift command V, which for me is I use everywhere because it's also paste without formatting.

[Brian Schulmeister]

For most apps, nobody can get that shit together.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, and I actually went into. You can actually go into the keyboard controls in your system settings and manually put in paste without formatting is Shift command V. This one supersedes even that one. But they do make it very easy. It's very easy to go in and remove those key commands. Okay, that's fine. But the app is actually really nice. You can even talk to it and upload files, do all the normal stuff. I don't have a paid Perplexity account, so I'm kind of hamstrung on a lot of it. But with the new stuff that they've got coming out, it actually I might end up Pulling the trigger. If I can get some client work on it next week. So it looks. The new stuff they've got looks pretty good. So checking that out, like I said, for a lot of the research stuff that I'm doing, the AI stuff makes a lot of sense.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Right.

[Jason DeFilippo]

But for the image creation stuff. Yeah. You're making a deal with the devil. You're making a deal with the devil.

[Brian Schulmeister]

But definitely.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Anyway, bluesky is teasing creator payments while new signups explode. It's not just John Scalzi anymore. Brian, is it okay? I don't know.

[Brian Schulmeister]

I don't know. I have a bluesky account, but I don't ever look at it.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Okay. I thought you were still checking that one out. No, I've got a bookmark. That's about as far as I've gone. I've got a bookmark. So they've announced a $15 million Series A, which seems kind of small when you think about all of the other funding that we've heard about, all the other AI crap. The $6 billion and $15 million seems like pocket lint nowadays, especially once the funding round is led by Blockchain Capital.

[Brian Schulmeister]

You know, the funny thing is, like, $15 million sounds completely reasonable to me for what this is. And I think we've just been so blown away by the insane amount of money that so many people are raising that is so above and beyond what they actually would need. Now, that doesn't include AI because you need so much compute and that costs a shit ton of money. And you have to drain the Amazon river and you got to pay off the corrupt politicians to do that. So you need a bunch of money.

[Jason DeFilippo]

You need lots of money. Yeah. Yeah.

[Brian Schulmeister]

So.

[Jason DeFilippo]

But, I mean, They've gone from 1 million users to 13 million users in just a year.

[Brian Schulmeister]

That's pretty impressive. I'd like to see the threads numbers. I think they're higher, but.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Well, threads numbers are insanely higher. Because they cheated. Yeah. If you had an Instagram account, you got a threads account for free. That was cheating. I can't even, in good faith, count the threads numbers for anything. But here's the thing. They're exploring new features like paid subscriptions and creator payment system, which, whatever. But the platform remains clear, it won't embrace crypto or NFTs. Okay. Even though your funding round comes from a company called Blockchain Capital.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Blockchain Capital.

[Jason DeFilippo]

So we'll see if that promise holds.

[Brian Schulmeister]

It won't.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Okay. In more doodad news, you've got AirPods Pro 2s, right? Brian?

[Brian Schulmeister]

I Do?

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah. Well, very soon. I'm on the 181 ahead of the schedule launch because I do the public beta. I got this last night. The new Firmware for the AirPods Pro 2 is out and with 18.1 for iOS, you can actually do the hearing aid stuff and the hearing tests. So it's cool. I tried it. I actually went through and did it last night. Here's the amazing part. My test indicates that I have little to no hearing loss. I could not believe it. So I'm right in the range. I put some screen caps in here so you can check them out. I could not believe that my hearing is not screwed from all those years of concerts without earplugs.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, well, we actually were going at an age when before they really started to crank things up, up. So hopefully that would be helpful.

[Jason DeFilippo]

But I've seen Ministry Live.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Me too.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Okay. Yeah. This is the loudest concert I've ever been to in mind.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Oh my God. Left field. The electronic band. Oh my God. That was the loudest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Okay.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Anyways, now this is, this is good news. I'm going to definitely check this out. The problem is I'm going to have to Google how do I update my firmware on AirPods because it happens so infected frequently. I can't remember the process to do.

[Jason DeFilippo]

It because there is no process, Brian. Really?

[Brian Schulmeister]

I thought you had to go into like the Bluetooth and then it did something. It just updated itself.

[Jason DeFilippo]

It does it on its own. So here's what I do. Every night I plug in my AirPods to charge and then plug it right next to my plugged in phone and hope that it happens. That's it. That's all you can do is hope. What you want to look for is you do want to go into your Bluetooth settings and do the get info on your AirPods and then if you scroll down to the bottom, it'll tell you your firmware version. You're looking for 7B19. That's what you're looking for.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Okay, so.

[Jason DeFilippo]

And then you just kind of hope. I. I opened and closed mine a lot, connected them, disconnected them, did all sorts of stuff. I didn't. I didn't stoop to killing a chicken, but I think it may resort to that at some point. But this is Apple, so it might have to be a vegan chicken that you have to kill. I don't know how that works.

[Brian Schulmeister]

All right, I'm guessing I'm still on 6.

[Jason DeFilippo]

It might not be triggered until you get the 18.1 update on your phone. Sorry, yeah, that's coming up, I think in a week. So you should have it soon or sign up for the public beta for a day, then you'll get it and then just then turn it off. Because it's the golden master now for 18.1. That's out.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Right.

[Jason DeFilippo]

So you should be good to go. Cool. And you've upgraded to Sequoia, right?

[Brian Schulmeister]

Of course, yes.

[Jason DeFilippo]

See, there's a new feature in Sequoia that I didn't know what it was. I thought it was maybe one of the apps that I was running. It was driving me crazy. Every time I dragged a window to the top of the screen, it would automatically full screen it. I'm like, what the fucking.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Stop.

[Jason DeFilippo]

It turns out it's a feature, not a bug. So it's a new snap window tiling mechanism that they have built into Sequoia. And once you know it's there, it's kind of neat because if you go to your window settings, you can actually do. There's a full screen tile option. There's also a move and resize option which lets you break apart your window. And you don't have to run a secondary app like Magnet that we used to run. I don't used to run that.

[Brian Schulmeister]

No, not anymore. I got rid of it a while ago.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, it kept screwing up on mine, especially because I was running it on a laptop and when I plug it into an external monitor, you have to like redo all the settings and it didn't stick the settings all the time.

[Brian Schulmeister]

So that was the same problem I had.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, yeah. So this is built into the os. I put a link in the show, notes on how it works and how you can learn how to use it. So it's kind of cool.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Cool.

[Jason DeFilippo]

I sent you a link this week on Chat too, somewhere about the web Design Museum. Did you get a chance to check that out?

[Brian Schulmeister]

I did. I looked through it. Yeah.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, it's pretty cool. I didn't see anything that I worked on in there, which was kind of a bummer. So I may have to send them some old screenshots. Oh, wait, no, no, I take that back. Titanic was in there. They had a small subset of the screenshots from Titanic, but it's pretty cool just to go back and look at some of the old websites that we used to know and love. They start from way back in 91 up to the mid 2000s. So it's a fun little jaunt for us old time web designers to go Check out, definitely.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah. There wasn't anything that I had done in there. Kind of bummed me out too.

[Jason DeFilippo]

I had some sites.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Dammit.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, you did, you did. Do you have any old demos that you put together somewhere? I was going to say, if you've got screenshots of the homepages for those, send them in because I think I'm going to send. I've got like all the old movies I worked on back in the day from the Phantom. I've even got. Oh, what was it? Beautician and the Beast as a winner.

[Brian Schulmeister]

There you go.

[Jason DeFilippo]

I found another cool tool called Diff Text. It's an online diff. It's one of those things where if you need it, you really need it and if you don't, you'll never fucking care. But I'm used to the command line Diff tool. If you've ever had to use that just to check multiple files to see how they differ, this is pretty cool. You just drag in some text and it tells you exactly what the differences are. All right. It's a fun one. Link is in the show. Notes. I want to talk about SetApp for one second. Another hat tip to Vinny on this one this week. He sent us a note saying that his email client, client du jour, was going tits up. So he was looking for something different. So I'm like, go check out spark on SetApp because my spark subscription had lapsed about a week or so ago and I let it lapse because it was costing me like 40 bucks a year. And I'm like, since I had a SetApp subscription, the people at Spark had joined SetApp. So now I don't have to pay Spark for my subscription. I get it free with my SetApp subscription. Well, not free. You have to pay for SetApp, but the cost over the year is much lower than getting all of the different pieces of software right. So also Clean My Mac has a nice update that comes with SetApp as well. I don't know. Have you checked out the 5.0 version of clean My Mac?

[Brian Schulmeister]

No, I think I have to pay to upgrade on.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Oh, that's right. Yes. Maybe you should get SetApp, Brian. Maybe I should because it comes for free on all of your Macs. Yes, is beautiful. It is a really, really nice upgrade that they've done for Clean My Mac. I am very impressed with that. But you also get bartender Istat menus and a ton of other stuff like Downy for downloading videos, Time Mater for time tracking. Renamer is a really Nice batch file renamer, tons of stuff. So I put a link in the show notes, go check out setapp. But I still recommend Spark for email for sure.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Okay. We talked about Suno when they first came out. It's one of those music AI places. And of course they got the shih t suit out of them by every major laboratory table because, you know, of.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Course they just, they should have been called sue yes. Not sue no.

[Brian Schulmeister]

So they've, they've now moved into the we better start making partnerships phase of piracy. And that's what they're doing. They're excited to announce that they've partnered with Grammy winning super producer Timbaland to celebrate. He's sharing his new single Love Again exclusively on Sono ahead of its official release. And you'll be able to remix it using their AI tools. They're giving out over 100k in prizes. Plus the top two remixes get an official release. So your, your, your creations too can be put into the Gristle mill.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, exactly. Oh, that's. At least they're trying.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, they're trying. They're. They're making deals. They're trying to do something. I, you know, this is a Pandora's box thing. It's open. We can't stuff it back in. Let's figure something out.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yep. Yep. Oh, and I. This is a follow up on an old story that we've been, we've been following for a couple years now. The, the, the demise of the floppy disk. It just won't go away. San Francisco is spending $212 million to upgrade its Muni Metro light rail system, which still relies on five and a quarter inch floppy disks for its automatic train control system installed in 1998.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Why bother when the self driving cars are doing so well up there?

[Jason DeFilippo]

I know, I know. Why don't they just buy a bunch of Tesla Cyber Cabs and be done with it? So yeah, they're getting rid of the old system and they're getting a new system from Hitachi Rail. It's part of a $700 million overhaul. So it's part of the plan, I guess. Brian, they have a plan.

[Brian Schulmeister]

They have a plan. Good.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Unlike the Cylons. Is that a Cylon grunt still upsets.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Me to this day. It's the 20th anniversary because we old. They're all getting together somewhere. I saw all the posts on social media. Katie Sackhoff and you know, almost everybody from the show is. They're getting together to celebrate the 20th anniversary. Maybe they'll write an ending.

[Jason DeFilippo]

At the library.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Well, more AI stuff. Taking a firm stance against tech companies unlicensed use of its author's works, the publishing giant Penguin Random House will change the language on all of its books copyright pages to expressly prohibit their use and training against artificial intelligence systems, according to reporting by the bookseller. So basically, they're adding a robots. Txt file to every book?

[Jason DeFilippo]

I think that's what I was going to say. Yeah. Sounds like robots. Txt to me.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah. Matthew Sag, an AI and copyright expert at Emory University School of Law, said Penguin Random House's new language appears to be directed at the European Union market, but can also impact how AI companies in the US use its material. Under EU law, it won't. Under EU law, copyright holders can opt out of having their work data mined. While that right isn't enshrined in US laws, the largest AI developers generally don't scrape content behind paywalls or content excluded by websites. Robot. TXT files. Actually, that is fucking not true as we cover a gazillion times on this show already.

[Jason DeFilippo]

So not true.

[Brian Schulmeister]

That is 100% not true. They're all in trouble for it. So good luck, Penguin Random house in the U.S. if you want it not to be trained on AI here, don't fucking publish it. Here.

[Jason DeFilippo]

That's it. Don't publish it.

[Brian Schulmeister]

There we go.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Idiot. So I saw this new thing last night called Bookcase by Astropad. It is a phone case, sort of. And what it does. Did you look at this thing?

[Brian Schulmeister]

This is the most ridiculous fucking thing I've ever seen.

[Jason DeFilippo]

It is so fucking stupid. It is so stupid. It's basically a case with handles on it so you can hold your phone. And what it does is when you clip the phone in, it turns on Do Not Disturb. It's basically what it does. It turns on Do Not Disturb and opens the app that you want to open, like your Kindle app or whatever reader mode app that you're going to go through. The case itself has no electronics besides an NFC reader or an NFC chip at the top and a magnet. The handles on it don't do anything you can't swipe. You still have to reach over and change the page normally and. But Brian, right now, for launch, it's 20% off. It's usually $50. Now you can get it for $40. You can basically turn on Do Not Disturb mod code in this stupid little case for 40 bucks now. It's so dumb. It's so fucking dumb I almost have no words.

[Brian Schulmeister]

It's not even aesthetically attractive.

[Jason DeFilippo]

No, it's not. I don't know, Brian. It is definitely the worst thing I've seen this week.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Well, I'm sure you will not be able to purchase it within a few months.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Closing shout out over at Patreon. Nobody, nobody loves us on Patreon today. Brian.

[Brian Schulmeister]

I saw tumbleweed blow past when I loaded it.

[Jason DeFilippo]

I know. Just a. Just a reminder, if you sign up over@patreon patreon.com gog you can get the show early a little bit depending on the week. Probably not this week. And get an ad for free and you get it high res and you basically keep the show on the air is the important part.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, you warm the cockles of our bank accounts.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, it's only. It starts at three bucks a month and if you want you can get the whole year and get 5% off if you want. But please sign up patreon.com gog I.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Mean really, what are you going to do? Buy a bookcase by astropod?

[Jason DeFilippo]

Seriously, you can fund us for over a year instead of buying a bookcase by Astropod?

[Brian Schulmeister]

And over at PayPal we've got Tom, Joseph and David. Thank you all so much.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Thank you. Over at the Tip Jar we've got Eric and Ross. And no reviews. Boo. I do want to throw a birthday related shout out here. Belated birthdays, actually, because I meant to put this in last week but I forgot to check the note that said put this in the notes. So happy belated birthday to friends of the show MXV and Gabriel Pagan. Happy birthday everybody. Happy birthday and well, not so happy death day. We got a couple deaths this week. Philip G. Zimbardo, the Stanford psychologist behind the controversial Stanford prison experiment, has died at 91. All right, you are a psychology major. You followed the Stanford Prison experiment.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, we covered that.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah, that was a problematic study.

[Brian Schulmeister]

You think?

[Jason DeFilippo]

Oh, man. And Ward Christiansen, the BBS inventor and architect of our online age has died at 8. Page 78.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Yeah, I read that article because I wanted to see which program he had written and if I'd ever used it and I had not used his particular flavor, I came a little bit later on.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yep, yep. So you will be missed, Ward. You did good work. You did damn good work.

[Brian Schulmeister]

I had a lot of fun as a kid running BBS's. So thank you all for that. And in sad news, dodger icon Fernando Valenzuela has passed away at the young age of 63. Yeah, not entirely sure what happened. I'm. But he's been sick for a while. But kept it very private. So whenever the family decides to release that information, they will. God from Nandomania. Such a part of my childhood. My dad took me to Dodgers games. I saw him pitch many, many times. So just an amazing pitcher and a huge part of the LA Dodger story. He's worked for years doing Spanish commentary. He's always. He's always been around. We've lost Fernando and we've lost what's his face. Why am I blanking on his name right now? The legendary announcer Vin Scully, Vince Gully and Fernando are the Dodgers in my mind. So it's kind of sad. But speaking of that, the World Series does start tonight. The Dodgers versus the Yankees. Another matchup I haven't seen since I was a kid. I think a lot of people are pretty excited for it. And what better motivation do the Dodgers need? Do it for El Toro. Come on.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Yeah. That's all anybody's talking about here down in la.

[Brian Schulmeister]

So, hey, it's a big deal, man.

[Jason DeFilippo]

It is a big deal. It is a big deal. I used to play Dodgers versus Yankees on my video games back in the day. So we'll see how it goes. Good luck, Brian. Good luck.

[Brian Schulmeister]

Thank you.

[Jason DeFilippo]

Until next time, I'm Jason DeFilippo.

[Brian Schulmeister]

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