The Constable | Gunsmoke (03-20-60)

Summary

Gunsmoke Episode Summary: "The Constable" (03-20-60)

Introduction

In the episode titled "The Constable" from the long-running Western drama Gunsmoke, United States Marshal Matt Dillon faces a formidable challenge in maintaining law and order in Dodge City, Kansas. Set against the backdrop of the tumultuous American West, this episode delves into themes of authority, community, and the struggle between maintaining peace and appeasing influential business interests.

Plot Overview

Arrival of Rance and Rising Tensions The episode begins with Chester, a loyal assistant to Marshal Dillon, informing him about the release of a group of unruly cowboys. Dillon remarks on the temporary peace but warns that such tranquility is fragile and easily disrupted by "wild outfits" like the one led by Rance, a trail boss from Monte Cara, Texas.

Businessmen’s Intervention As Dillon maintains order by arresting troublemakers, the local businessmen, represented by Mr. Green, grow increasingly frustrated. During a meeting, Mr. Green and other prominent figures express their concerns:

• Mr. Green: “We all did, Marshall. Mr. Pepper. Mr. Howe and, well, all of us. Practically every man who does business in Dodge is here.”

• Mr. Green: “We've had a meeting, Marshall. We've decided you've got to go easier on these cowboys.”

Dillon defends his actions, emphasizing the necessity of enforcing the law to prevent chaos:

• Matt Dillon: “Nobody got killed last night, did they? Well, that isn't the point, according to the law.”

The businessmen argue that Dillon’s strictness is detrimental to their businesses, especially the saloons and gambling establishments that thrive on the cowboys' patronage. They suggest that Dillon focus his efforts outside of Dodge City to preserve their economic interests.

Introduction of Constable Dillard Amidst the brewing conflict, Chester introduces a new character, Constable Dillard, an inexperienced and overweight former cowboy who has reluctantly taken up the role due to financial necessity:

• Chester: “I'm the new constable. They picked me. I had to take it, Marshall. I'm... I'm so broke and all.”

Dillon expresses skepticism about Dillard's ability to handle the town's volatile situation, noting his lack of experience and reluctance to carry a weapon.

Escalation of Violence Despite Dillon’s efforts to maintain peace, Rance and his men escalate their aggression. By the following day, a new herd arrives, and the town plunges into chaos with shootings and confrontations breaking out. A critical incident involves a wounded man needing medical attention, which further complicates the marshal's predicament as Rance refuses to back down.

Climax: Confrontation with Rance As violence peaks, Dillard proves ineffective, and Dillon must take decisive action. With the support of Doc, the town's physician, Dillon orchestrates a plan to isolate Rance and his faction. He orders the saloons to close and lights to be turned off, cutting off the cowboys' usual haunts. This strategic move forces Rance to confront Dillon directly in the deserted streets.

During their confrontation, Dillon stands firm against Rance’s intimidation:

• Matt Dillon: “I won't make any more arrests and dodge until you come and ask me to. It's your town and you can blow it right off the map if you want. Good day.”

When tensions reach a boiling point, Dillon successfully subdues Rance without resorting to unnecessary violence, upholding the law while minimizing loss of life.

Key Characters

• Matt Dillon (William Conrad): The steadfast and principled United States Marshal dedicated to maintaining peace in Dodge City. Dillon embodies the moral center of the town, balancing firmness with fairness.

• Chester (Ari Bear): Dillon’s dependable assistant who brings by introducing the new constable. His interactions provide insight into the challenges Dillon faces.

• Rance (Character): A tenacious and aggressive trail boss whose arrival disrupts the fragile peace in Dodge City. Rance represents the untamed and lawless spirit that Dillon strives to control.

• Mr. Green (Ken Lynch): A local businessman concerned primarily with the economic implications of Dillon’s strict enforcement of the law. He symbolizes the conflict between economic interests and moral duty.

• Constable Dillard (Bartlett Robinson): An inexperienced and round character who attempts to uphold the law but lacks the necessary skills and authority, highlighting the difficulties in maintaining order.

• Doc (Howard Culver): The town physician who assists Dillon, representing the community's reliance on collective effort to address crises.

Themes and Insights

Law vs. Commerce A central theme in "The Constable" is the tension between upholding the law and catering to business interests. The businessmen’s reluctance to support Dillon’s enforcement efforts underscores the challenges lawmen face when their duties conflict with community or economic pressures.

Authority and Responsibility Marshal Dillon's unwavering commitment to justice, even in the face of opposition, highlights the responsibility that comes with authority. His interactions with Mr. Green and Rance demonstrate his dedication to maintaining peace, regardless of personal or communal costs.

Community and Collaboration The episode emphasizes the importance of community support in sustaining law and order. Dillon’s collaboration with Doc and the eventual backing from the businessmen after a tragic incident showcase how collective effort can restore stability.

Individual vs. Collective Action Constable Dillard’s ineptitude juxtaposed with Dillon’s effective leadership illustrates the critical role of competent individuals in collective endeavors. The episode suggests that single-minded dedication can significantly impact broader community outcomes.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Matt Dillon on Responsibility:

  • [03:29] “Things will be peaceful enough for a while. Till some wild outfit like this drag our herd his Tom.”

• Chester on Confrontation:

  • [05:12] “I mean I won't drive cattle that dies no more.”

• Mr. Green’s Pressure:

  • [06:36] “They won't stand for your slugging men and throwing them in jail.”

• Dillon’s Defiance:

  • [08:01] “It's true, it's true. There's only one way you'll learn, gentlemen.”

• Constable Dillard’s Introduction:

  • [09:36] “I didn't want you to be mad at me. I need the money. That's why I'm doing it.”

• Final Stand:

  • [16:13] “I ain't no gunfighter. Go on, you coward. Now why should I die? Ain't my business anyway.”

Conclusion

"The Constable" serves as a compelling narrative exploring the complexities of maintaining law and order in a rapidly changing Western town. Through Marshal Matt Dillon's steadfast leadership and moral integrity, the episode underscores the enduring struggle between order and chaos, authority and influence, and individual conviction versus collective pressure. This episode not only entertains with its dramatic confrontations and character dynamics but also offers thoughtful reflections on the nature of justice and community in the American West.

Transcript

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[Matt Dillon]

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[Chester]

Well, hello there, Mr. Dillon. Turned them all loose early this morning, just like you said.

[Matt Dillon]

I got you.

[Chester]

They was the one sorriest looking bunch of cowboys I ever did see.

[Matt Dillon]

Yeah, well, I guess I didn't really hurt any of them. Chester.

[Chester]

Being banged on the head with a six gun ain't the gentlest way to end evening pleasure. But they'll live.

[Matt Dillon]

Trouble is they've been taking their pleasure too seriously.

[Chester]

Yes, sir. But things quieted down a little last night after you locked up them five. They might have been real trouble otherwise. Declare I don't know what's got into everybody lately, Mr. John.

[Matt Dillon]

Well, it goes like that, Chester. Things will be peaceful enough for a while. Till some wild outfit like this drag our herd his Tom. And you gotta come down on them hard and fast before they really get the bit in their teeth.

[Chester]

Well, you sure did last night.

[Matt Dillon]

And it isn't over yet. You Marshal Dillon? Yeah, that's right. My name's Rance. I'm glad to know you, Rance. I bossed to drag our herd up.

[Chester]

Here from down around Monte Cara.

[Matt Dillon]

That's in Texas, Marshall. Yeah, I've been there. Yeah, well, you better not go back. Oh, we might give you the kind.

[Chester]

Of welcome you're giving us.

[Matt Dillon]

What's your complaint, Rance? Buffalo and my men, five of them, come into camp this morning with blood in the hair. They said you'd done it. That's right, I did. And if I hadn't, they might have been shot or shot somebody else. Good thing for you you took them one at a time. I'd have taken them anyway. Look, Grant, Siston was on the edge of a riot last night, and I stopped it. I stopped it without any killing.

[Chester]

It's a man's own business.

[Matt Dillon]

He wants to pull out his gun. Not around here it isn't, Marshall. I can't ask men to come up.

[Chester]

The trail the way they do and.

[Matt Dillon]

Take the drinking soda water and talking in whispers.

[Chester]

What kind of a town is this anyway?

[Matt Dillon]

It's a good town. And your men can drink and gamble all they want in it. But they can't shoot the mirror off the wall at the long branch. And they can't grab townswomen on the street. And they can't break the bartender's arm in the oasis. And they can't offer to shoot anybody that tries to stop them. It isn't that kind of a town, Rance, for sure. They get a little frisky.

[Chester]

There's no harm in it, I can see.

[Matt Dillon]

Sooner or later it'd lead to killing. And I got to draw the line somewhere. So do I, Marshall. What does that mean?

[Chester]

I mean I won't drive cattle that dies no more.

[Matt Dillon]

I'll spread the word. It's no good town. And you people can live off side busters and buffalo hunters. This place will start the desert. I'm hired to keep the peace, Rants. Any way I can keep it. Then we won't bother Dodge no more. Goodbye, Mark.

[Chester]

You Ms. Dillon?

[Matt Dillon]

No, you wait outside, Justin.

[Chester]

What do you think they're up to, anyway?

[Matt Dillon]

Mr. Green told you it was a businessman's meeting, didn't he?

[Chester]

Yes, sir.

[Matt Dillon]

I expect they're worried about business. All right, Chester. I'll be out shortly.

[Chester]

Yes, sir.

[Mr. Green]

Hello, Marshall.

[Matt Dillon]

Mr. Green. Gentlemen. Mr. Green. You asked me to come here.

[Mr. Green]

We all did, Marshall. Mr. Pepper. Mr. Howe and, well, all of us. Practically every man who does business in Dodge is here.

[Matt Dillon]

I don't see Rance. He says he does business here too. He sure does. And that's what we want to talk about. Uh huh. All right, go ahead.

[Mr. Green]

Well, we've had a meeting, Marshall. We've decided you've got to go easier on these cowboys.

[Matt Dillon]

Oh, why? Well, we can't afford to lose all that business, that's why. There's always been some trouble the first day or so after a herd reaches Dodge. All I do is buffalo a few of the Wilders and gradually the rest of the cowboys calm down a little.

[Mr. Green]

They won't stand for your slugging men and throwing them in jail.

[Matt Dillon]

Nobody got killed last night, did they? Well, that isn't the point, according to the law. That's a pretty good point, Mr. Green. Well now, the law's a fine thing, Marshall, but we're also interested in business. You're scared because one hard headed trail boss has threatened you. How you know they're not all like rants?

[Mr. Green]

Well, there's no use to argue, Marshall. We've got our minds made up. You're too rough with those men, Mr. Green.

[Matt Dillon]

Would you like to run this town?

[Mr. Green]

Why no, no, no, of course not. Not me. But we thought maybe if you'd kind of leave Dodge alone and do your work in the country, then we'd hire somebody. The cowboys here take do a little better, if you know what I mean.

[Matt Dillon]

I do. It's a good thing for me I'm employed by the government, isn't it?

[Mr. Green]

Now Marshall, we're just making a suggestion, sort of.

[Matt Dillon]

Sure. And you know what, Mr. Green? You men are acting like fools. It's true, it's true. There's only one way you'll learn, gentlemen. I won't make any more arrests and dodge until you come and ask me to. It's your town and you can blow it right off the map if you want. Good day.

[Chester]

I got the mail, Mr. Dillon, what there was of it.

[Matt Dillon]

All right, Chester, put it on the desk there. I'll look at it later. Yeah, I'm gonna have a lot of time.

[Chester]

I should. But you just wait till the word gets out the Dodge is wide open. Ain't gonna be nothing but trouble.

[Matt Dillon]

Maybe this is the only way I can handle it so they won't listen to me otherwise.

[Chester]

Excuse me, Marshall.

[Matt Dillon]

What for?

[Chester]

Well, I don't want to bother you, but I thought it better come see you.

[Matt Dillon]

You're not bothering me.

[Chester]

I sure hope not. What can I Do for you, Marshall? You don't know me, but I heard about you.

[Matt Dillon]

Huh. Seems like a lot of people have lately.

[Chester]

I know, Marshall. I, I.

[Matt Dillon]

Go ahead, mister. There's nothing to be afraid of.

[Chester]

I'm the new constable.

[Matt Dillon]

You're what?

[Chester]

The new constable. They picked me. I had to take it, Marshall. I'm. I'm so broke and all.

[Matt Dillon]

You sound like you're apologizing.

[Chester]

Well, I reckon I am. I didn't want you to be mad at me. I need the money. That's why I'm doing it.

[Matt Dillon]

That's all right. Somebody had to take the job. I didn't know they were going to call it constable.

[Chester]

Well, they wanted to sound as peaceful as possible, I reckon.

[Matt Dillon]

No. What's your name, mister?

[Chester]

Dillard.

[Matt Dillon]

Dillard?

[Chester]

Yes, sir. Dillard Band.

[Matt Dillon]

Where you from?

[Chester]

Well, I used to be a cowboy, but when I got so fat and all, well, I just sort of worked around wherever I came. I've been awful broke, Marshall.

[Matt Dillon]

Yeah, you mentioned that.

[Chester]

Yes, sir.

[Matt Dillon]

How come you're not wearing a gun?

[Chester]

Oh, shucks, Marshall. I don't never wear a gun. I don't even know how to use one. Very good.

[Matt Dillon]

You're a whole lot better off without one.

[Chester]

And I don't aim to get into any fights, Marshall. If there's any trouble, maybe I can sort of talk him out of it.

[Matt Dillon]

Yeah, maybe. Well, Dalit. I. I wish you luck.

[Chester]

Oh, thanks. I gotta be going now, Marshall. I'm on pay already.

[Matt Dillon]

So long.

[Chester]

So long, Marshall. Oh, my goodness.

[Matt Dillon]

Yeah, I agree, Chester.

[Chester]

Why, they'll ruin that poor fella if he tries to stop him.

[Matt Dillon]

He won't even raise his voice against them. But they sure might ruin dod. The government paid for my office and the jail behind it, so I stayed there. It was sure that Constable Dillard, van broke and fat and humble, wasn't going to manhandle any randy Texas cowboys and throw them behind bars. First 24 hours passed peacefully enough. The drag our outfit was was busy moving their herd across the Arkansas and didn't get into town. But the next day, a new herd arrived. That night, it seemed like all of Texas had come to Dodge. By midnight. No man, unless he was armed and ready to fight, should have been out on the street. It was Doc who told us what it was like when he came into the office where Chester and I were sitting it out playing a little 221.

[Chester]

Well, it's a fine thing when the US Marshal holes up in his office, when men are getting shot up and knived all over town.

[Matt Dillon]

And I hope that's not true, Doc.

[Chester]

Well, it is true. Just came back from trying to save the second victim. First one's already dead.

[Matt Dillon]

Cowboys are citizens.

[Chester]

Cowboys.

[Mr. Green]

Citizens.

[Chester]

I suppose those Dundee heads would have been in here on their knees, begging you for help.

[Matt Dillon]

I don't want them on their knees, Doc.

[Chester]

I know, Matt. It's getting worse by that last fella. They wouldn't even let me bring him back to my office. They said he might as well die right there on the floor of the Texas Trail. They sure did. And they ran me right out of there. They took me by the arms and they half carried me as far as the door. I called them everything I could think of while they were doing it to us.

[Matt Dillon]

Doctor, you think that man's dead yet?

[Chester]

He will be soon if I don't get him to where I can work on him.

[Matt Dillon]

All right, we're going over there and get him. Come on, Chester. Yes, sir. I told him I wouldn't make any arrests than I want. But nobody's gonna push Doc around and stand between him and a wounded man. You get in the middle, Doc.

[Chester]

I wish there was a tunnel under the street. I don't see Dillard no worse. He ought to be out here talking his head off if that's his plan. And he's lucky if he doesn't get hung, Ton.

[Matt Dillon]

Watch your gun, Chester. Don't let anybody grab it.

[Chester]

I'm carrying my hand on.

[Matt Dillon]

He's right over there, Max, lying in.

[Chester]

Front of the bar.

[Matt Dillon]

All right, all right. Get on a little bit, will you? Will you make room? Will you move, please? Come on. All right. Go ahead, Doc. See if he's still alive.

[Chester]

He doesn't look very good.

[Matt Dillon]

I thought you'd quit, Marshall. No, I haven't quit, Rance. What are you doing there, then? A man's dying with a fair fight.

[Chester]

We believe in dying where we fall, Marshall. We don't need no help.

[Matt Dillon]

I won't even argue with you, Rance. The first man that interferes with Doc'll die on his feet. And if you can't understand it any other way, just put it that Doc's a friend of mine. Is that clear enough?

[Chester]

No, no, no, no, man. Now, let's not have any trouble here. Now, let's talk it over and settle this peacefully. Good night. Oh, gee, Marshall.

[Matt Dillon]

Hello, Dillard.

[Chester]

I'm having a terrible time, Marshall.

[Matt Dillon]

Yeah, I can see that, Matt. Yeah.

[Chester]

Obviously, document bad, but I might save him.

[Matt Dillon]

Okay. Dillard.

[Chester]

Yes, sir.

[Matt Dillon]

Help Chester carry that man over to Doc's office.

[Chester]

Sure, Marshall.

[Matt Dillon]

Sure. Leave him be, Constable. That's enough, Rance.

[Chester]

Let him die in peace, I say.

[Matt Dillon]

You know Rance, I'd throw you in jail but I said I wouldn't make any arrests. And why don't you get out of here while you still can. I'll get out.

[Chester]

All right.

[Matt Dillon]

I'll shoot the first man that touches a gun. All right, Chester. Dylan, got moving.

[Chester]

Yes, sir. We got him sir.

[Matt Dillon]

You lead the way, Doc.

[Chester]

Well let's hurry. That man won't live long if we don't. 2:00 in the morning and the crowd sticker and ever. Ms. Joan. Just come here and take a look.

[Matt Dillon]

Yeah, yeah. Another hour and they will really be out of hand.

[Chester]

Look yonder. There's Meskitty coming across the street.

[Matt Dillon]

What now? You wait here Chester. Kitty, kitty. What are you doing out here? Coming to find you. Let's get off the street.

[Kitty]

It's getting worse.

[Matt Dillon]

Hello Chester. Mr. Kitty. You shouldn't have gone out in the street.

[Kitty]

Well that's no worse than a long branch.

[Matt Dillon]

Then you ought to go home.

[Kitty]

I'm going. I'm all through it. I'll send somebody puts a lid on this town. That Rance is over there right now, Matt, getting drunk and calling for blood.

[Matt Dillon]

There's been enough blood around here already.

[Kitty]

How's that cowboy? The one you got out of there?

[Matt Dillon]

Well, Doc was down a while ago. Said he took a bullet out. He thinks he has a chance now.

[Kitty]

Oh good.

[Matt Dillon]

You say Rance is working up trouble, huh?

[Kitty]

Yeah, he's trying. I guess you didn't take to your bashing him on the head.

[Matt Dillon]

Quieted things down for a little while anyway.

[Kitty]

Sure got that poor constable treed. Dillard, what's his name?

[Chester]

Seemed like a nice enough fella. I sort of hope they don't hurt him.

[Kitty]

Well, when I left they had him dancing on the bar. He looked about to cry.

[Chester]

Well that's harder on the bar until his on Dillard. He bout the fattest peace officer I ever did see.

[Kitty]

Well he's gonna be fatter than ever after tonight. Every time he opens his mouth to talk, somebody pours a glass of beard on him. It's sort of pitiful.

[Matt Dillon]

Man, it's worse than that, Kenny.

[Kitty]

Yeah, I know. That's why I got out of there. You can kind of feel when a crowd like that starts to get real mean.

[Chester]

Listen to him out there.

[Kitty]

Well, I'm not even staying in town tonight. I'm going out to Moss Molly.

[Matt Dillon]

That's a good idea, Kitty. Chester, you go along with her. I better stick around.

[Mr. Green]

What's.

[Chester]

Mr. Green.

[Matt Dillon]

Oh, my.

[Chester]

Look at Miller. A fella beat me up. He beat me up bad.

[Mr. Green]

He certainly did. Marshall, we came here to ask you.

[Matt Dillon]

Wait a minute, Mr. Green. Chester, take Dillard up at Doc's place.

[Chester]

I sure will. Come on, Billy. Oh, thanks, Chester.

[Matt Dillon]

You come back for Kitty here. All right. All right. Mr. Green. You wanted to ask me something.

[Mr. Green]

You've got to stop them, Marshall. Another man's been killed. Mr. Howe's brother. He caught a stray bullet out back of the Texas Trail.

[Matt Dillon]

Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. I wondered why Mr. Howe wasn't here.

[Mr. Green]

He told me to tell you that he'll trust your judgment from now on. We shouldn't have interfered, Marshall, but we're all behind you now.

[Matt Dillon]

Certainly are.

[Mr. Green]

You'll do something, won't you, Marshall?

[Matt Dillon]

All right. It's pretty late, but I'll try it. All right.

[Mr. Green]

Thank you, Marshall.

[Matt Dillon]

I'll start with Rance. He's the worst of the lot. I'll go get him and throw him in jail. But before I go, I want every saloon keeper in Dodge to put out his lights and close up.

[Mr. Green]

We'll do that.

[Matt Dillon]

Now, you gentlemen have to pass the word for that. I don't want to be seen until I go for a ranch.

[Mr. Green]

We'll do it, Marshall. We'll do it right now.

[Matt Dillon]

All right, then, get going before it's too late. Singing doesn't say. I waited for a half an hour while Green and the others spread the word to close up the saloons. The lights gradually went out up and down the street and I left the office alone. I found Rance in front of the long branch. I was able to reach him before I was recognized. He was stupid drunk, but he was being held up by a man who was fairly sober.

[Chester]

Well, the marshal's back. Let's shoot a man. You better get out of here, Marshall. We ain't in no mood to fool.

[Matt Dillon]

Neither am I. All right, the street's closed, gentlemen. You go on back to your camp. It'll be open again tomorrow night. You're welcome to come back then.

[Chester]

There won't be no town by tomorrow. Let's set it a fireman.

[Matt Dillon]

Shut up, Red.

[Chester]

I won't shut up.

[Matt Dillon]

All right, you're going to jail. What?

[Chester]

You leave him be. My, you want to fight?

[Matt Dillon]

Mr. Rance here is too drunk. He wouldn't have a chance. But you might.

[Chester]

He's right, Pete.

[Matt Dillon]

I'll never make it. You draw on him, go out and shoot him. Hell, I'm waiting, cowboy. I ain't no gunfighter. Go on, you coward. Now why should I die? Ain't my business anyway. Will somebody do it then I'll fight any man here, and I'll fight him fair. And I'll have to try it myself when I.

[Chester]

Don't be a fool, Ranch.

[Matt Dillon]

He'll kill you.

[Chester]

Get out of my way.

[Matt Dillon]

No, you don't, jimmy that.

[Chester]

I'll keep your gun. Forgot now, or I'll slug you.

[Matt Dillon]

That was smart of you, mister. But he's still going to jail. Sure got a lot of nerve, marshal.

[Chester]

Buck in a crowd like this.

[Matt Dillon]

I'm one man against any other one man here. I'm not bucking a crowd. You cowboys aren't built that way. I've been in Texas too, mister. Guess you win, Marshall. It looks that way. You want to take Rance to jail or do you want me to do it? His head might be less lumpy tomorrow if I do it. Marshall. Start a walk in rex. Gun smoke, produced and directed in Hollywood by Norman McDonald stars William Conrad as Matt Dillon, U. S Marshal. The story was specially written for gunsmoke by John meston. Featured in the cast were Ralph moody, Ken lynch, Bartlett Robinson, Mick Barron and Howard Culver. Ari bear is Chester, Howard mcnear is doc and Georgia Ellis is kidding. This is George Walsh inviting you to join us again next week when CBS radio presents another story on news gun smoke.

[Mr. Green]

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[Matt Dillon]

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